Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 237: 5x5 Training, Testosterone Replacement Therapy, Intermittent Fasting Safety & MORE

Episode Date: February 12, 2016

In the 2nd QUAH of the week, Sal, Adam & Justin answer your questions about negative effects of intermittent fasting on women, tweaks to workouts and nutrition for those on testosterone replacement therapy, their thoughts on 5x5 Training, getting enough sleep when starting out as a trainer and building the perfect Mind Pump body. Please subscribe, rate and review this show! Learn more about Mind Pump at www.mindpumpmedia.com

If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. Are we on yet? Are we on yet? Every episode begins with that. I'm glad you sound good, is this good? Wow. Is this good?

Is this good? Do you like this? I think I know why my voice sounds like that. Is that... is that... is that my hit in it right? Is it, is it too high? Is it low? Right. No.

You know what, I think I know I'm like, I think I know why my voice sounds like that. It's the big tonsil that I have. I was looking at the mirror, did it? No, really, I think it blocks a little bit. Yeah, so it gives me a little bit of that quality to my voice. I don't think there's any wrong with your voice.

I think we're just fucking with you. That's why. You don't have to backtrack, because you feel bad enough for being an asshole. There is nothing wrong with your voice. There's anything wrong with your voice. I think we're just fucking with you. That's why you don't have the back track Cuz you feel bad enough There is nothing wrong with your voice. There's something wrong with your sweats, but there's no way We need to warn ahead of time. We need to warn the ladies in gentlemen. You might want to slow the Slow down this episode a little bit because Adam drank a shit ton of coffee Oh, you don't want to tell them that I actually took it. It's like an Adderall pill. Run in, run in, run in, run in. Basically took an Adderall pill and he's talking like a million.

He's sad on it. He's like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Hey, guys, have an idea. Hey, take this idea. Oh, what if we do this? What if 80D times a million? It does the opposite to you. It's like, whoa.

Yeah. It's a lot. It's a lot. I'm going to mix it with some cannabis later on. Just call him. I will chat her box. Did you, uh, I'd invent something later on? So have you not worked out all week, dude,

because you've been feeling crappy? You're a genius. No, I worked out on what's today? Thursday. Thursday. Yeah, I worked out on Monday. Wow, you've worked out to Sunday. Yeah, Sunday Monday.

That's more of a roll. No, no, no, no, because I didn't. What day, what day do you and I left? We lifted Tuesday, yeah. No. Sunday. Wait, hold on,

you guys lifted together again? No, the last one we lifted was this. This is yeah, no Sunday, wait hold on, Sunday you guys lifted together again The last one we lift it was this is how this is this is it we did it squats on Tuesday, right? Was that too why would we do Tuesday? No, no, it wasn't Tuesday. It was yesterday. No, no, it's not No side effects from cannabis use So you guys so let's go with Monday This is what you guys do. This is what you guys do, right? When I leave, hey, Justin, what Adam? Let's work out when Sal's not here so we can catch up to him.

That's what happens every time. I know it. You're never here. You're not gonna catch up. We're talking about you so much. You're not gonna catch up. You're out reading Encyclopedias. What is Sal doing?

I have the bracelet. What is Sal doing? No, what would Sal do? What would Sal be doing right now? The bracelet. Hey, so to snap it's how I'll be doing right now the bracelet So did it snap it and I remind I was going over a gem etiquette and I was telling I was telling my class that it's We went over a peril first right and I said it's it's totally It's totally okay for women to wear yoga pants and booty shorts, but it's frowned upon for men And I can't help but look at your pant your sweats right now. They look like yoga

So yoga pants to me right now. You know what you're frowning a little bit. So I figured it out because they are a little tight, but I figured it out. So you guys know how I wear speedo type underwear, right? You guys know how I wear it. You do the same with sweats. Yeah, the grapes on them.

And I know why I like them because they're snug. Like contour to your body. So, so have you, do you guys know what a thunder vest is? You ever see those for dogs? You ever see those for vests? Oh yeah, so they didn't feel comfortable. So so have you you guys know what a thunder vest is you ever see those for dogs? You're seeing their best. Oh, yeah, so they feel comfortable. So they don't bark. Yeah, keep so tight. Yeah, so I think it's like and also when your Babies like to be swaddled, right? So I like everything down there to be swaddled and to be because it makes me feel a swaddled nut sack Yeah, it feels comfortable and it feels I feel secure. I don't want to bark. Okay. Well, the sweats, the sweats are an extension of that. So it just, it just, it just, oh, I feel so,

I feel like, you're just constantly showing. I feel like everything's being hugged. You know what I mean? I feel like I'm being hugged everywhere. That's the problem I have right now. I kind of feel like I'm staring at you and you're a little thung bikini grape underwear right now. It feels like it's this close.

It's what's close. This close. Back close? Yeah, it's almost that close to the same thing. So, no, it's just, it's just close. It's what's close this close. That close? Yeah, it's almost that close to the same thing. So no, it's just it's just comfortable. And by the way, they're not they don't have grapes on them anymore. That was when I was a kid. And I know how they're just colorful.

I don't want to tease you because I'm just kidding, but I like the sweats and I am a highly I'm a huge fan of you actually being more comfortable and wearing sweats and matching your socks and do that. So I don't want to deter you from doing what you do. I think I think that's I'm just teasing you because I notice. That's me being kind of jealous. I'm flirting with you. Really?

Yeah, I like. It's like we need the pool girls here in front of them. So yeah. Yeah. So don't stop doing it. You look sharp. I like you. Yeah, you look sharp.

Oh, that's nice. That's nice of you. Fuck you. Serious. That's serious. No. You know what though? You know what's nice. That's nice to you. Yeah, you do. Fuck you. So serious. That's not serious. No. You know what though? You know what's interesting. Remember when you bought the tight sweats,

but then they were baggy on you. So what we're gonna do. Wow. Boom. Boom. Boom. Actually, no, the truth is, Adam, your legs have actually been growing a little bit.

I've seen your pictures on your phone. When you went to the bathroom, you looked at your pictures. I look pretty good. Justin never wears pants. He's always wearing shorts all the time. Every time. His astros are snake free. His ass doesn't fit.

And he gets hungry. What the trousers snake? I hear the phenom. Oh my God. Dude, he's sitting right across me. He's flashing me. I'm like, yeah, you like that. I like, I've gone in full bore with this old man thing.

You know, which one of you would you? I'm gonna go rope next time you guys do rope rope. Next week, I'll be in a rope. Then we'll be awesome if you come in here to rope. Which one of you two, one of you two is just sharing a story with me about because we're starting to do more and more episodes and we're seeing each other more and more with mind pump, growing and stuff that now you find yourself saying stuff to clients that you normally wouldn't

say and you catch your stuff. That was just me. What was it? I did not tell that story. No, you didn't tell your story on here. Yeah. So share with the audience. I mean, because this is, I think I can relate.

This is happening to me too. Like Katrina will like tell me like, you're not talking to the boys on Mind Pump right now. Yeah. Yeah, I just caught myself because I was talking to my clients. I've had forever, you know, and like I only actually see her like once a week because she just, she got a new job, whatever we worked it out where I could at least see her,

you know, once in a while, and it's not even once a week, it's less frequent than that. And so I was like talking to her, and I haven't talked to her barely anything about like the podcast where I've been doing and stuff. And, and we're just like, we joke and everything, but it's not like, it's not like we joke here. Oh yeah.

You know what I mean? Like this is the whole other level. Did she put her finger on for that? What did you say? I can't remember what you said. You know, it was, while I was making like a sexual reference, you know, somewhat, like, oh, that's what it was. So we're measuring.

We're measuring. Oh, that's what it was. So we were measuring, we were measuring, like, it's choosing her fingers to tell me that, like, this is eight inches. You know, and I was like, I don't want to tell you how I know that, and I'm like, pointing at my dick. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

And then I was like, oh, no, like I said that out loud. I don't like it. I already said that to you. I realized, this is not Justin. That's why I was saying Greg is like, you never say that. First of all, we have a lot of aspiring trainers listening to the show. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

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I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don your god. I wasn't like, I wasn't like, you know, taking the flags and like, the best part was you got cricket, so right? And she was totally, that was the wrong client to do that. You know, it's funny. I had, she wasn't like offended and like, she just kind of shoved it off.

It was just kind of an awkward moment. Well, I was hoping to get a good laugh at that. Let me ask you this. Did she schedule with you for another appointment? Of course. Come on. I do the same thing. I can get away with a lot.

So I've done the same thing. And I had somebody who's a regular listener of our show who hired me because she listened to the show. So she came and she found and she hired me. And then we're training. And when I train people, I'm extremely professional for the most part. Extremely, unless I really know someone and it's okay.

But, so you should see, I mean, the look on her face is almost like, are you the same dude that is on the show? Because I'm a completely different person. You have to be professional when you're, you don't get sued. No, no, no, I want to point to your dick. No, no, no, I get to say, I mean, it's a little inappropriate. I feel like I'm the same way too. And I think I'm probably one of the most

over the top ones on here. And then when people meet me in person and I train them and stuff like that, they're like, it's so crazy. I'm so proud of you. I'm so proud of you. I'm so proud of you. I'm so proud of you.

I'm so proud of you. I'm so proud of you. Well, I would think too, when you guys agree, I'm like this. So even with clients that you have conflicting beliefs or views on things, I love to train those because I spend a lot of my time listening and not being combative and actually just wanting

to hear their side. I think that's also why we're all very similar. I think we all treat our clients the same way too. Like someone has a different political or religious view or they're adamant about something that you're totally opposed to or whatever it may be. I love like, instead of me like staying away from the subject, I'm afraid of it, I'll inquire. Oh tell me what tell me why you think that or what

are your thoughts on this? You kind of like give them answers though that aren't like super combative. No, not at all. I don't I don't I don't want them to know my they don't need to know where I stand. You just let them talk about. Yeah. I mean, I don't idea. And I think what that does is give me another a good perspective of that because also, we talked about this before on a show that, you know, we're always looking for our paradigm to be shattered. And just because I believe one thing right now in today in this moment doesn't mean that that couldn't change because someone else, either one, and I'm convinced otherwise, or new science comes out or whatever it may be.

So I love to entertain that. So if someone has a position on something that I disagree with, instead of either one being combative or two, shying away from it, I'll pull it out, I want to. Oh, I'm so, I've got such a big mouth, I can't do that. I end up discussing and debating. Well, I was gonna ask you, I was wondering about that. Are you, because I would,

I, so if you ask me my opinion, you're gonna get my opinion, that's the problem, is I can't, it's hard for me to temper it or change it, but I do a very good job of presenting, for whatever reason, I don't know what it is, call it a gift, if you will. I have a very, something about the way I present things, I get away with shit, like I say things,

and afterwards people are like, how did you get away with saying that? I don't know. So maybe it's because, I don't know, I don't know what it is. But I, you're delivery. It's in my delivery. Yeah, you have a very solid delivery. And we see that all the time when we get into

even like Instagram and Facebook debates with people. You know, we just had one other day with the... Well, there's a trick to that, because you're coming in. There's no friction or like abrasiveness behind it. That's why people like, they can kind of take a strong opinion if you give them that. Like, if you present it in that way, because like, if you present it and you're really passionate in it and like, you're adamant

about this opinion, uh, that's gonna, it's gonna come out like, errr, you know, at somebody. Sal, Sal has this, and somebody asked, they wanted us to talk about this. So I guess we, we can kind of talk about it a little bit. Was this recent post that Sal did. And I love that he's finally doing this because he didn't get a lot of people Debating him on there and what she loves to do and I love to watch him do and I said bro the problem is you're writing these long posts And they're just they're far too intelligent to get anybody to bait or debate you You know say like you click you play out all the facts

I'm all just put something out there just a couple words and just leave it at that and then sure shit you just did it to the day. What was the pattern? All right. Yeah. It was a big like BS debate with some. It was kind of political and here's the good thing about me is I hate most politicians actually pretty much all of them and I hate both sides of the political parties. So I can I can agree with half.

Half the shit that half people have that some people will say and half the shit that other people will say and half the time they'll hate me. I mean, I've been called everything from a hippie, commie to a capitalist pig to, I'm all over the board according to a lot of people. In reality, I'm just extremely consistent with my views and both political parties I hate to break it to you are extremely inconsistent with their views and both political parties, I hate to break it to you are extremely inconsistent with the views.

And so it turned into a debate on economics. And I don't think the person realized that that was a topic that I'm very passionate about and kind of well versed on. So we got a little economic debate. And that's all, that was good fun. Well, what I was getting to, what you do so well is, you know, one, you don't insult,

you know, you know, that to and that I don't know if you saw the post where I wrote to him. I said, lesson number one, you know, you just walked into a buzz off, first of all, and your second lesson is when you started to bait with anybody that's intelligent, starting off with insults, it already shows your hand already already know you're a fucking idiot, you know, I'm saying you're not that intelligent. If that's your your way of getting across your point and or if that's how you re you rebuttal a point right away. You already know there's credibility. So you lost your cool and you're reverting to like old tactics of the shit. We did this shit. We didn't fifth grade. Right. Yeah. I know you are but what am I saying? Like, well, whatever. Yeah. Exactly. So in the press mills this guy was doing

that right away as soon as Sal came after him and then they went back and forth. But you're very tactful. And you state facts. You don't say your opinion on things like that. It's like, well, here's the facts. And this is how it works. And they're not debatable things.

It's just, you can view them. And you can debate the way you look at them and you view them. And that's normally the problem is most people don't, one, they didn't know those facts. And then when you reveal it to them, they look stupid. And then when they start to debate other things and they start dancing around or, you know, what's that? What is that? What do they call that? What's the word I'm looking for where, where somebody is dodging left and right. They're not even, they're never avoiding. I don't know. Yeah. No, I think you even called it. Yeah.

Like you've been getting. Yeah. Continue continue to invade the real question that you that's being asked for the statement that we're talking about But he got pumped it was it was all right. It was a good time. I think it's time. You know what time I think it is For that new holiday Kwanza Fuck Valentine's day. It's Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, quadde, quadde, quadde, quadde. Yeah, I don't want to steal their holiday. It's our own. It's our own. We're the H in there.

It's on the 13th. What? The 13th. Yeah, February 13th. February 13th. Got it. Alright, Doug, bring it. Bring me.

I write our first question is from I'm boundless. She has read some studies indicating that there's some negatives to intermittent fasting for women and wanted your opinion on that. Justin, you said you saw you also saw some. I've read some, I haven't. I have some, some other things. I have some other things. Well, really, they're addressing the hormones.

So when women are, you know, super low calorie, they're already in a low body fat percentage and so being in a deficit at that point, it's gonna affect their hormones to begin with. And so like intermittent fasting to say super lean, for women, I think that was really what they're trying to address, but they're trying to make it sound a lot like in general, like it's probably not a good idea for women, which is false.

Yeah. So we want to make sure that that's clear, what really is the issues is, it's the very, very low percentage, you know, body fat that already is going to affect women's hormone levels, which you got to be careful. Well, that's been known for a long time. There's nothing new about that.

We've known for a long time that if women get too lean, that they will, they'll lose men's cysts. They'll stop menstruating. Their hormones will change. So we've known this for a long time. Female athletes will go years without having their periods because they're so active and because they're so lean. Intermittent fasting simulates that.

And if you fast for long periods of time, over and over and over and over again, you could potentially simulate that for a woman. And you gotta understand, there is a difference between men and women when it comes to how their bodies respond to a deficit. Women of course evolve to be able to bear children. And so their body will not allow itself to bear children.

If it thinks it's in a state of or in a situation And so their body will not allow itself to bear children. If it thinks it's in a state of or in a situation where food is not abundant, where this newtous child would come into the world and not have enough food. So that's where this comes from. Now, if you're a healthy woman, otherwise healthy woman, you're eating healthy,

you're exercising appropriately. The intermittent fasting has just as many health benefits for women as it does for men. If you're very, very lean, you've got to be careful anyway. Men get away with being really lean for long periods of time. Women don't really get away with it, like men do. And it's just very different. Fat is an estrogen sensitive tissue in the body.

Matter of fact, if men get really fat, they'll get more estrogen. And some men will even get things that got a comastia just from being overweight because of the sensitivity from the body fat scientific term, bitch kids. Bitch kids. Well, I just want to point something out too.

I think the main purpose that we should incorporate intermittent fasting into any of our lifestyles is number one for health, number two for weight loss. I'm not a big fan of using it as like your primary tool to lose body fat. No, that's ridiculous. Well, and I think that's when you look at studies like that,

and because if you're a beauty, like, oh my God, if all of a sudden you start hearing people like ourselves who are huge advocates of intermittent fasting, preaching it and you're starting to read more studies about it. It's positive, all these positive things. And then just like anything in health and fitness, somebody always has to take shit to an extreme. And so because they've heard it's healthy, it's good for you, then they're fasting three,

four, five times a week, you know, and they're living now in this huge chloro deficit. Because even when you do the little six hour window of eating, it's very tough. If you actually do it and track your calories like I do, I never hit my chloric intake. I'm not. You tend to be a deficit. For me, I'm in a significant difference. Most people are, it's only a six hour eating window

and most people eat two back-to-back meals and they're already pretty full, maybe a third one and then they get in there a decent size and they're done. So you're already living in a chloric deficit, that would be no different than you intentionally starving your body on a regular basis. So just because intermittent fasting

and that's why it's called intermittent, it's not designed to be something that you do on a regular basis in your diet. I typically I only do it once a week. So once a week, and that's not even always once a week. Sometimes I'll go weeks and not do it at all, but I make sure I interject it for health reasons. So if I notice like, I've been allowing, eating out a lot

or doing things outside of what I would consider my healthy diet more frequently than usual, then all incorporate fast and just one thing. I can almost want to cleanse everything out. I want to go in a chloro-tevacid, I want to have- No, it's also, it's more, it's like being in a deficit versus being in a maintenance versus being in a surplus. And so it's like, you know, if you're in a certain one for too long, you know, let's hop into the next and then to, you know, and use that as a scale. So you insert

whatever diet, you know, in there, like what what position Cal Calory wise are you in? And a macronutrient balance wise? You know all that kind of stuff, but just make sure that you're not like always in the deficit, you know, because you're just telling your body that like, oh my god I'm always asking for metabolic damage. You're asking for exactly. Well here. There's two things number one Anything can be abused and diet is abused all the time There's gonna be people who are gonna look at diet and they're gonna say, I need to eat perfect all the fucking time.

And that's unhealthy as well. There's an emotional component there, a mental component that can be unhealthy. And of course, just from the food that you're eating, you see people eating the same food every single day, or they're eating too little all the time. So that's number one. And number two, like anything you do,

there's a right way to do it, and there's a wrong way to do it. And fasting is one of those things. Fasting sounds simple, it sounds like I just don't eat. Right, yeah. And I know a lot of people who, I've known a lot of people who will fast and then go eat pizza, you know,

they'll fast all day and then they'll go eat shitty food. And this is what they think fasting is all about. There's a right way to do it. That's why we have a guide. We actually have a very inexpensive guide on mindpumpmedia.com. food and this is what they think fasting is all about. There's a right way to do it. That's why we have a guide. We actually have a very inexpensive guide on MindPumpMedia.com and it breaks down how to utilize intermittent fasting properly for yourself. And here's the thing.

Everybody, there are big variances from individual to individual and there's different ways to utilize fasting. And we've listed all the ways that have been tested, that have been written about and studied, and it's up to you to find what works best for you. I'm so glad you said that because some people may know that some people may not, but we are probably one of the first, at least in the bodybuilding and fitness community that really started talking a lot about intermittent fasting. But before us, as far as a big stage would be the Hodg twins. The Hodg twins, and they, what I didn't like about it and why I wasn't a fan of when

I first came across it, which was when I came across it from them. And that's what sparked me to start doing my own research and looking into it was after I saw that. But what they would do is exactly that. They would fast, and then they'd have these windows where they would, and they'd drive through, drive, they could get a workout and then they'd drive through, drive through, and pick up burgers and fries and they were showing people that, hey, if you did this fasting like this and you just kept yourself in these windows, you won't get fat, you know? You know what that reminds me of?

That reminds me of like intermittent fasting combined with your, your pizza macros. Totally. Yeah. No, there is no, there is no, there is no way to eat that will excuse eating shitty food. Sorry. I don't give a fuck how much you fast. But you know what?

That's what, that's what sells. That's what's marketable. And that's what people will always appeal to. So, and that's what we're all about is trying to teach and show people that don't be fooled by that. Because it's the easiest way, or it seems that, oh my god, this is awesome.

Or it works the best for my life. You know, the best way is rarely ever going to be the easiest way. It's going to be tougher. It takes more discipline. It takes more scheduling. It takes more documenting, writing down and figuring out what am I getting, what am I getting? If you've never done these things, shame on you. Everybody should do this.

Everybody at one point, we have all the, and the crazy part is, you know, when I started as a trainer fucking 15 plus years ago, we had to do this with pen and paper and I used to go refer back to my nutrition book and it was, it was fucking homework. I remember that. And I, and I, and I,

even as a trainer, I hated doing it. And I would do it for the wall and fall off of it. And I'm like, how can I make my clients do this? I hate doing this. But fuck now with my fitness pal and fat secret and... Great apps by the way. I mean, these apps, they even have it now where you have a fucking barcode scanner on it.

Where if you before you eat it, you scan the goddamn barcode. What food is this? Yeah, and it... It tells you this. Uploads it. Yeah, it uploads it, calculates all of it out for you. I mean, if you're not doing these type of things

at one point, if you really care about your health and fitness, you need to do it. And you want to do it, even if you have a trainer, so this is first and foremost, when I coach somebody, they have to, they are required to download that app. And I'm going, because my goal is not to have you me coaching you for the rest of your life, financially, that would be great for me,

but that's not my idea is to teach you these skills and teach you how to do this yourself So you know, these are things that people have to do and I feel like when I hear people talking about you know The negative effects for yeah, you know what? There's gonna be a negative effect for anything as because what if you do it wrong You're using the visual because what people take it to an extreme That's it and if so far the feedback we've gotten from all, we've had quite a few people enrolling our fast or get our fasting guide. It's probably one of them. And it's probably one of our number one sellers.

It is. And so far all the reviews and feedback has been extremely positive. And a lot of some of these people had tried fasting before they got the guide or how they thought fasting was supposed to be. And then the feedback we get is, oh, I was doing it wrong. Now that I read the guide and I'm applying it properly, I love the way I feel. And by the way, this person who asked the question

was asking about women, most of us people who bought our fasting guide are women. So I would say probably 70% or more have been women and the feedback has been awesome. And then lastly, I'll end on this. Nothing is for everybody. So it doesn't mean just cause there's lots of science supporting it, just cause we talk about it

and you try and you fucking hate it, then don't do it. There's gonna be people out there that not everything's gonna work for. So, that's it. Next clock. J. Fahim1234 is asking about any tweaks to workouts and nutrition that you could recommend for someone who's on testosterone replacement therapy. Oh, so they're on T-R-T.

So testosterone replacement therapy just basically means... I mean, educate me to, like, I was wondering about this as far as like how they actually go through a process of prescribing that, like how old is your typical male that goes into the doctor and like typically typically they're over 50 pro yeah over 45 over 45 although it's very very common but it doesn't matter I mean if you have low testosterone you'll get you can you qualify for it. Don't take you as early as 30 yeah so if you're young I mean even younger if you're a kid and you've got low testosterone they'll give it it to you Yeah, it's rare, but you'll give it to you. So basically testosterone replacement therapy is you're taking exogenous testosterone to

Give you quote unquote normal testosterone levels now. Here's the difference between Doing that and having natural testosterone levels Natural testosterone levels are never consistent. They go up, they come down, and the morning they spike, they tend to drop during the afternoon, they go up after certain events, you have sex, it goes up, you win a soccer game or a football game, it goes up, you know, they fluctuate all time. So, you have a pressure. Right, when you're on testosterone replacement therapy. I think it's inconsistent. It's pretty consistent. If you're injecting injectables, it'll come up and slowly come down to your next shot. If you're on the cream, it tends to stay up all the time.

Does that change how your body responds and reacts to exercise? Yes. Oh, yeah. Exercise and nutrition, that was this question. And there is new rules for you compared to the average. You have a little bit of a benefit. You don't get the drop in testosterone that I would get if I over trained or if I lost sleep, your testosterone level is always going to kind of stay high. So you can probably just get away with more. Now, is it a lot more? You know,

maybe not a whole lot more. The replacing testosterone, they're not taking like, well, what are doses? And I, and I part, I was the one who wanted to talk about this question. And the reason why I wanted the boys to bring this question up is I feel like because we don't advocate taking testosterone, we don't talk a lot about it. I know we've done an episode or two where we've mentioned it. I feel like people stray away from asking us that, which I don't want people to stray away from asking at all.

We have plenty of experience in that and knowledge when it comes to testosterone and a bulk steroids, so with that, just because it might not be a majority of our audience, I don't want those that have, because to me, I feel like there's not enough good information for people like that out. There's almost none. There's none. And so I'm glad someone asked, and I don't know if this is maybe somebody asking and they don't want to put themselves out there and be like, hey, I'm taking steroids. Right. You know, maybe they say it like this. Yeah, I'm taking a monster stack. Maybe they say it like this.

Yeah, I'm taking a monster stack. I'm taking TRT. You know, the difference between TRT, it's someone who just do in hormone therapy or replacement therapy, you're taking a minimum dose. You're probably taking 50 milligrams of testosterone, you know, every week to two weeks. It's a very mild dose just to keep you in that normal type of range. Somebody who's taking above and beyond that, you know, is going to see significant gains in comparison to that person. And that's where I was just interrupting

sound and saying, well, it depends. So if somebody, you know, you can definitely get away with overtraining and overconsuming. If you're taking the higher the dosage, the more that you basically can get away. Yeah, you'll find yourself you can probably work out a little harder, work out a little more often, do more sets. As far as nutrition goes away, recovery goes up nutrition. As far as nutrition is concerned, you still got to eat healthy. Can you use more protein depends on on your workouts really. It depends on the dose, just like Adam was saying, if you're replacing testosterone, the same rules apply to a natural athlete, just train

properly, eat right. The only difference is you might get away with more. You might get away with more. And I have more to add to that. There's some things that you want to look out for. I wouldn't have thought of this until it happened to me myself in training. And you, because you can put on muscle at a faster rate than the body can naturally, you start to see problems

that the average natural athlete would not see. Your muscles get big, fast, and a lot faster, and then they get shortened and tighter, a lot quicker. And so if you're not also training and putting a lot of emphasis on corrective stretching, dynamic flexibility, you really quick, you'll turn into one of those meatheads with rounded shoulders like crazy, and you're going to start. You can wipe your ass. Yeah, you've really quick, you'll turn into one of those meet heads with rounded shoulders like crazy and you're going to start. Can't wipe your ass. Yeah, you've fucked up posture, you waddle, you can't walk, you can't walk very well.

I mean, you start to lose your functionality. So it's very important to put a lot of emphasis on that if you care about that. So to me, that's a rule for me. A rule for me is, you know, I've got to incorporate dynamic flexibility, functional training in there. I can't just be a body builder, meet head guys. As much as that's what I want to look like, I'm going to be paying for it later on

with my joints, ligaments, and my range of motion. You know what's interesting? You just said that. I know, I know this. I know testosterone affects the central nervous system. I know when you take testosterone or you take an anabolic steroid, you get strong before you build muscle.

Okay, you'll get stronger before you even put on any muscle. Absolutely. And that's from central nervous system. Yeah, that must be that. It is. And I know this, you could give someone a very fast acting testosterone,

like testosterone suspension and they'll feel stronger within a day or two. So it's central nervous system that's happening and now Adam's talking about being tight and we're learning now that flexibility really has more to do with the central nervous system that that's the muscle. Are there many, I mean, have you seen that? Have you read that or is that just speculation? This is all anecdotes. You know, they don't do studies on anybody taking, they don't do studies on anybody taking bodybuilder doses of steroids. So it's all anecdotes, but

I've been in the industry long enough and Adam has well, we know this. Yeah. And a guy's will take certain steroids like, you know, like I said, they'll take a, like DHT derivative type steroids like Mastron or they'll take suspension and they'll get stronger within a few days. There's no muscle, you didn't gain that much,

you didn't gain muscle in the few days, that's the central nervous system. And now that we know that central nervous system plays such a big role in flexibility, if not the role in flexibility, it makes sense that you would be tighter if you're not careful because the muscles are going to be in this kind of, well, it's just hyper-contractive position. Yeah, it's interesting to me just because as somebody that looks at testosterone, you know, like, is like a hormone thing. To me, not doing it, like I think of it as like, you know, it's the testosterone the testosterone, the hormone response that gives you almost

immediate strengths, whereas it would make a lot more sense if it was the central nervous system. That's where you get that immediate. That's where it comes from. Yeah, interesting. Interesting Adam. That's great advice because now that you say that, knowing all the people I've known for as long as I have who've used antibiotics, and even my own experience using the designer antibiotics that I purchased years ago, you do get tighter if you're not careful. And it's probably because you've got that kind of hyper-contracted signal coming from

the central nervous system. Muscle tears are much more common in people taking your own. So those are rules. You've got to be careful of stuff like that. The other thing with your nutrition side, because you can get away with all this extra bad calories, you gotta be careful too, because what you're getting your body adapted to

and what you're setting it up for, our bodies are adaptation machines, and you still, there's other things that you play than just building a muscle or losing fat or whatever, there's a lot of stuff going on with your gut floor, there's a lot of stuff going on with your gut floor. There's a lot of stuff going on with your metabolism, your heart. There's so much more than just what you see on the outside.

So, you know, and because you can get away with eating a lot of bad calories or shit calories and not putting on a lot of body fat because a lot of that gets converted over to muscle more than the natural person. You gotta be careful that, you know, just because of that, you don't wanna let it go to the extreme. You gotta be careful, extremes on everything for sure.

Perfect. J-Y-Z Bumsky. He's on his sixth week of the five by five training and he's finding that the heavy week weight is taxing on his body and he wants to know what you think about this. So he should be on maps Well, we should explain what five by five is it's an old old training style

I think if I'm not mistaken bill pearl old body builder. I think it's him. I think he was the one that popularized Really? I thought it was um red part. They're no the Russian guy Not cobble. Yes. I think it's no yeah, no, no, it's five by five. Is an oval is five by five with progressive overload and he never comes out of that. You know, he might, but it's not, that's an old, like, training style that came from me, older than Patrick. Oh, okay.

So maybe that's where the first place I read it was through the, the his, cause that's a, it's just five sets of five reps. Yeah. And their theory is, is just progressive overload. You don't ever have to leave Never have to leave the five by five phase. You just stay in five. Yeah, so like like I think it was either Reg Park or Bill Pearl Who would talk about you know taking doing certain exercises like squats bench press over like all the basic ones doing five sets of five reps Now it's actually very sound advice compared to all the other programs that are out there aside from a few that we you know that we've developed. It's a kick-ass program.

You'll build muscle on it. Here's the problem with it. It's always five by five. And like he says, he's feeling tax is by starting to feel tax because he hasn't veered out of that. That five sets of fiber. Exactly why we've designed ours to phase out every three to four weeks. Yeah, so you need to change what you're doing. So what I would recommend for you, if you've been in five by five for six weeks, as I would recommend training fewer sets, like maybe three sets and going eight to 12 rep range.

Oh, at least 12 to 15. Make it, make it, make it, make it drastic different senses you've been in. Well, I was gonna scale them. I'd say do that for three weeks and then go to like 15 to 20. I was gonna say that first and then go back to age 12. Yeah, because if you want to give them like dramatic relief instantly right away,

I would go all the way to 15 and then I would come back down before I worked my way back. Yeah, I could see that because with red maps, which is the map's antibiotic program, we do cycles which last about three weeks and it goes from heavy and low rep to medium to higher rep and then of course There's a lot of program changing changes within that where you're focusing on different forms of adaptation If you don't do that your body will adapt and you'll stop progressing and or get injured

So well and what and what I you see happens is like this guy here in six weeks or so and I always noticed this We've talked about this on this show before, where sometimes I'm in a phase, especially phase one. Everyone loves, most everyone loves phase one because it's our lifting heavy phase, similar to five by five type of lifting. And it feels great to lift heavy ass weight, you know? Especially when you're seeing yourself PR, it's motivating, it's fun.

Like, so you can easily, sometimes I'll catch myself like flirting with more weeks of it because I like it. But then it always reminds me because also I get achy. I get achy where I see regression. Those are the two, the two that the indicators either I'll feel it first or I'll see a reflection of it in my left.

You know, like the key, the trick, and this is very difficult to do. The trick is to transition out of it before you plateau. That's very difficult. Well, it's very difficult because everybody's different Well, everybody's different like you might not even know when that timing is Yeah, for you specifically or yeah, like salsa too because you're feeling good and now that you're fully adapted to this protocol with your body You're performing very well. Yeah, you know, you're performing these lips very well. And it's becoming more Like fluid. Yeah, that's when you got it.

I think of it like this. So, man, and this is why we created maps to hit it at three is the body neuromuscular adaptation happens. They say between four to six weeks with weight training. So we know somewhere between that four to six, that's the average, right? So the average is between four to six. So we know at three right? So the average is between four to six. So we know at three, you're still, you're still getting benefits. In fact, you're probably getting some of the max benefits. And if we were to use numbers, these are totally hypothetical, they make no, there are no, there are no relevance to the, the, what we're talking about, whatsoever, except for the fact that here's some numbers,

you'd think of it like this. So let's say we're, we're, we're gaining, you know, getting gains at a 20% rate every single week when you first started a new program So you're on week one of maps. You're getting 20% of gains in the second week 20% of gains the third week 20% of gains and then come week four you could probably still get like 15% gains But now it's starting to diminish and then by week six seven eight it diminishes all the way to like 5% gains And then you could probably maintain and hold that five percent for a very long time, but it's such a small percentage where, is if you take yourself and you transition, right, when you're at that 20% onto a whole new modality or change everything up like we do in maps,

now I'm back to getting 20% gains that I'm doing a whole different program. It's not, it's not focused on weight and it's not focused on the same repetitions because it's a whole new design. And now when I circle back around and come back to that, back to that design or that I like lifting my five by fives or whatever it is you're doing, I should be back at that 20% versus. Yeah, we pick three weeks because based on our experience, it's usually between two to four weeks. Two to four weeks is when you'll see someone like hit their, you know, really progress quickly

and then start to plateau. So three weeks seems to be the sweet spot. But for me, here's a rule of thumb. If I hit a PR, the next week I change. Yeah. Every time, if I hit a PR, every single time, the next week, and I've done this in the past where my ego gets in the way, and I'm like,

fuck it, I know I could do another PR next week. And like clockwork, I regress or hurt myself. So as soon as you hit a PR and you have one of those fucking awesome workouts, we're like, oh my god, I did more than I did before. I felt like a freaking animal, like a beast. Now you switch to a new phase and that's how you keep your body progressing and keep yourself from getting injured. Yeah, because that's what we want.

The game is adaption, right? You want your body to get adapted so you see this new strength level. But then at the same time too, you want to switch gears. So you're on to new goals, new movements and then circle back around to that. Yes. All right. The next question is from my favorite Instagram name. 500 days of fuck you.

But he is a forum member. So we will forgive it. That's our boy. That's yeah. He's a new trainer. He wants all the clients he can get. But his question is, how can you get up at 5 a.m. and work all the way to 7 or 8 p.m.

and get enough sleep? We didn't even want to answer this question. We just like to hear, we just like to hear Doug say, fuck you. Oh. You know what? I'll tell you. New trainer wants all clients he can get.

How about this? How about you, you tape your nuts back? No. No. Back, maybe? He's a form guy, he's on our side bro back? No, no. Back, maybe? He's a form guy, he's on our side bro. All right, no, I like you. I'm just, I'm trying to tell you to like,

you gotta grind it. You gotta grind it out. That's it, you all did it. Well yeah, let's talk of what's the earliest you would ever take a client. What's the earliest you train clients out? Just didn't matter. I mean, when I first started,

you know, four or five AM or didn't matter. Bro, when I first started, I, and when you first start, you gotta be, you gotta bem. or a dimmer? Bro, one and four a.m. When I first started, when you first start, you gotta be hungry, man. If you wanna be successful, really successful at this, you gotta be kinda hungry. I remember I would come in, I would have a client at five a.m. I go five, six, seven, eight, nine.

Then I went to school, this is when I was going to junior college, I'd take a few classes, I'd come back, I'd train a few more people. Then I'd go home and eat and fucking go to sleep, take an app, I can come back and train people, go more people, then I go home and eat and fucking go to sleep, take an app and come back and train people, go back home and take a, go to bed and then come back at five. And I would do this five or six days a week. Like, it's kind of, you gotta kind of grind it out a little bit.

I mean, of course you wanna take care of your body and you don't wanna hurt yourself, but, you know, I hate to tell you, man, if you want all the clients you can get, then take all the clients you can get. If you don't want all the clients you can get and you wanna all the clients you can get. If you don't want all the clients you can get and you want to get sleep, then do that. But you can't do that. Well, make goals for yourself then, if that's the case.

You're planning everything out as far as this is the very beginning. Right now has to be very intensive. That's your focus is repetitions and getting as many clients as possible and perfecting your craft. And taking a little bit of the sleepless nights and the aches and the pains and the, you know, not eating food all the time and like things like that,

like getting the way that are normal, like planned out things are new day. So you just have to stay, give yourself like timing with that. So I would do things in phases where I would go like super intense for like a month, two months, whatever, get burnt out, you know, come back, revisit, like see what I did, like how I could be more efficient at it and then make a whole new plan and attack it 100%. Do you guys, do you guys remember getting those, we won't get in trouble for saying this.

I won't throw the name out there. Do you guys remember getting those checks from won't get in trouble for saying this. I won't throw the name out there. Do you guys remember getting those checks from that settlement from the company we looked at? Okay, so we worked for fitness company for a long time and when you get into management, you get salary. So you get salary plus you get overrides and bonuses if you hit your goals, okay? But you wouldn't get an hourly rate.

And none of us worked, at least none of us that did well, worked eight hours a day. It was like 12 to 14, 15 hours a day. We were just there all the fucking time. They would still have us fill out a time sheet. And I would fill out my time sheet, and they used to tell us, just put 9 to 5,

because it doesn't matter getting salary. And I'm like, no, I'm gonna put what I really was doing. I'm gonna put what I actually did. So my boss ever checks, I want him to see. I was here at 6 a.m. I didn't leave till 10. Yeah, so I'm so every day like clock every single day I would put 8 a.m. to 10 p.m. and sometimes I work more sometimes a lot more but usually was 8 to 10 8 to 10 It's six days a week 8 to 10 8 to 10 Well fast forward I guess this lawsuit comes out that they weren't paying their employees properly

Whatever luckily I had to fill out my time sheet like that. I got a fat paycheck later on, but I'll tell you something right now, Mr. 500 days of fuck you. If I got paid for every hour I've worked in the gym or was in the gym trying to get new clients, I'd be a fucking millionaire by now. I mean, you bleed a little bit man, and that's just the way it is.

I'm gonna give you a little behind the scenes here. So if you don't know Justin at one point, I hired Justin way back when, and you know, one of the things, so I've had hundreds of trainers that have worked for me, and only a handful of them like him. And I can all, I always knew right away what you were going to turn out to be like. And it was just a matter of you're going to be good, great, or you're going to be bad. That's what it was. You know, and I could tell by some of the things and one of the this is one, there's many factors that come into play mind you, but this was one of the things I could always

tell if I was going to have like a potential great trainer or I knew I had a ship but on my hands right away was I would I would ask them their schedule and their availability. And the trainers that would look across at me and be like, well, I want to work this day and this time. And I'd like to be this, this, and that. And I already let's like nails on the finger. Oh, yeah, right. Riding nails on the talk board. Right away. I'd be like, Oh, that sucks. I had all these high expectations. I thought this trainer was going to be good. They're just going to be at best and average trainer. It was always the guy or the girl that would look across

from me say, whenever, whenever you want me in, I can be here. It doesn't matter Saturday Sunday, every one of those four AM. I I can be here. It doesn't matter Saturday, Sunday, every one of those hours. Four AM, I'll come in here. If someone's willing to train at four AM, I'll come back at 10 o'clock. If I have to, you tell me at them. And that's how it gets me horny.

Oh, it's exactly how I was. I literally, and I think I've mentioned this before on this podcast, you know, that I've worked 176 days before in a row without taking a single day off. And every one of those days was an eight plus hour day. And you just gotta of have that, you gotta have this crazy and sane,

no balance to your life if that's what you're trying to do. If you're wanna be success, if you wanna be great at it, you wanna be better than everybody else had it, you gotta be willing to put in. And I feel this the same way it translates in sports and things like that. Exactly, I'm glad you're looting tech

because I just watched this thing about Michael Jackson and they're interviewing all these successful people like Kobe Bryant and you know, and they're just like they're trying to get people to realize the amount of time and effort. Like you have said Jackson would dance until his legs could not dance. Like that's just because he was like so completely consumed with it. Yeah, you're besides the best. That's just because he was like so completely consumed with it. Yeah, you're besides the best. You have to. Of course he's talented and he's a kid

and he did this for X amount of time. But think about how long he did that leading up to like how perfect he was with his movements. Yeah, you have to have that mentality man. You have to go into it. If you want to be a person, doesn't do that. Especially if you're a young kid,

you're just getting started in a career and you want to be successful. You don't have a family. You don't have kids that worry about. And you're like, you know what? I want to be person, doesn't do that. Especially if you're a young kid, you're just getting started in a career and you want to be successful. You don't have a family, you don't have kids that worry about and you're like, you know what? I want to be successful. Well then get your fucking, slam your dick in the dirt and make it happen. Like go and work, you're ass on them.

Well, and that's just the bottom line, just the way it is. And I would always try and tell these kids that would ask this, when I ask the schedule question, you know, I'd still give them like their second chance and try and help them out. Be like, you know, ultimately that's your goal, I would say, is to work those days and work this and that.

But if you really want to load yourself up as a trainer, you probably want to be really open minded to what hours and times you come in. I won't force them to, but I'm going to put it that way and they still are at them about that I would know for sure. But that's you start off. And I don't remember. I think it took me about six months, six months to a year. And obviously, I like to think the guys in this room

are exceptional what we do. So that's probably faster than average. But it takes about a good year of you grinding away out of those hours to build the schedule that you want. Right, I was just gonna say that. That's your ultimate goal is to, I'm gonna, and build you that. Then you can choose, yeah, my point.

Then you can choose and then you get to the privilege of being able to work, you know, those hours, but I'm gonna tell you something, here's a secret. If you're one of those people, look, I'll tell you what, I went and I put my nose down and I grinded it out, and I got to the point where I got comfortable, and guess what, a fucking board, didn't like it, and I changed it again, and put my fucking nose to the grindstone it, and I changed it again and put my fucking nose

to the grindstone again. And that's what we're doing right now. We're doing that literally right now with trying to build this podcast and stuff like that. You get comfortable and you're like, no, I gotta go and challenge myself again. And you always question yourself a little bit when you're in that situation.

Like, why did I do this to myself again? Yeah. I know why, because I love it. Yeah. Bring it on. Yeah, absolutely. Our final question is from L. Stephen one two three. Now this is a hypothetical question if each of you could take you know one part at least from each of you to create the perfect

Body one body part one body at least one body part from each of you. We can all agree Justin's ass Justin's calves. What? Justin's calves. Justin's calves and ass for sure. All right. I'm sorry to like my calves. You don't like them yet. They're not there yet. Justin's calves. Shit on your calves. Look at those. Sex and fuckers. He's just easy. It's all one big leg. That's a huge huge. No, look at that. It's nice. I like them. I just love shapes. So we're giving his, he's giving ass and calves. He's got, he's definitely got to ask you to have. We would take your quads. My dick. Absolutely. Definitely my dick. Your dick. I don't know. I'm not gonna. Oh, we're going sexual. I'm gonna gather. We put all the muscles together. First.

Oh, sorry. Sorry. I got the nicest balls. Sorry. My balls will take Adam's face. Okay. So let's we're gonna. We're gonna. We're working our way from the body from the body. We got Justin. We got your calves, right? Take cells arms. We have we'll take Doug's feet because he has a bat feet. We could probably give, we could find better deals on shoes. Yeah, we'd like, we'd leave Doug out of the, like, let's get some stuff from Doug. Doug, I take his genetics. We take Doug's.

Doug's youthfulness. Youthfulness. Yeah, and his skin. He's got great skin, yeah. Beautiful skin. Get Doug's skin. He's got the best skin. He's got beautiful teeth too.

Yeah, yeah. We probably take Doug's face. Well, Doug's like teeth eyes, your face. It's already been established. It's making its way. Okay, so we got Doug's feet, Justin's calves, Sal's quads, okay. Sal's quads.

I think Sal's back, dude, maybe. I don't know, you like Sal's back? Adam's got a nice back down. Now that he's been pulling. This is kind of tough dude cuz yeah You guys are kind of on par. Yeah, we'll give him the back as we both know I'm gonna get my chest. Oh, yeah No, nobody wants my chest My mother fucker hasn't grown and fucking 15 years. Yeah, I okay probably probably Justin's chest

Can I win your can I win shoulders or let's talk about abs though, dude? I don't know one of you guys Definitely not I like sales Corey's got a better core area't know. I don't know. One of you guys definitely not. So I like Sal's Corey's got a better core area than me. I've they're both they're both good but you've got good you've got good lines like you know I'm saying like your abs and you're everything's got good lines. I've got good obliques. Hmm.

I like. Let's see what do you think Doug? Yeah, what yeah Doug you're the deciding factor on that. Yeah. Well you know he's gonna pick his son. Why didn't we even ask that dude? Yeah that's fucking. Of course you're gonna say. Too much pressure on me because,

yeah, of course, I was gonna give it to Sal, and the reason is, he's got a little bit bigger abs. Oh, bigger ones. Lockier, you got blockier abs. Lockier abs, gotcha. Okay, that's a good point. So then we got Sal's abs. You're waste.

Okay, my waste. You got this, how about your fucking white shoulders? Yeah, my shoulder, my shoulder. Yeah, that doesn't even make sense. My shoulder, okay. Adam, you get the shoulder. this. Oh, how about your fucking white shoulders? Yeah, my shoulders. Yeah, that doesn't even make sense. My shoulders. Yeah, Adam, you get the shoulders. Yeah, shoulders and arms probably, right? Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, okay, so. And then, Sal's back. My good looks. Probably Sal's brain. I don't know. My one mirror. Because it's all there.

You do, you have the most hair out of all of us. Yeah, definitely your hair. Yeah. So it's gray. We'd all be gray. There's nothing wrong with being gray. out of all of us. Yeah, definitely your hair. Yeah, so it's great. We'd all be great Yeah, there's nothing wrong with being gray. I'm sure I'm being gray. Yeah, that's the best eyebrows That's a tough one. I don't yeah, probably Doug Doug. Yeah, Doug is the best I don't know I thought I kind of like Doug's glutes too. Oh, yeah, yeah, I didn't know They're pretty in training

Just returning the favor further than the plug. Well, Justin's got definitely got him in the size department when it comes to blue. Which, that's what matters. It's all about ass right now. Yeah, I don't know. Do you have cellulite in your butt, Justin? Fuck, bro, that's like you saying it like.

You can see it turn around. No, no, no, no. That's like you saying, that's like you saying it. Actually, Adam's got a girl here. And it's here free. Do you remember Adam's ass? Remember when he moonded us? Yes. It's a girl's ass. It's a very full, it's got a girl here. She remembers Adam's ass, remember when he moonded us? Yes.

It's a girl's ass. It's a very full, it's like he's made for juicy pants. Yes. You've got the juicy, you know, you're a parent of Lululemon's and juicy. You wear your robe, I'll box you, I'll box you and juicy. I don't know, man, I think that would look like a fucked up person. If we put all that shit together, it would be really, well, it would be symmetrical, that's for sure. No, I think that would look like a fucked up person if we put all that shit together. It would be really well Would be symmetrical that's for sure. It would be weird like you like the curvy man version

Yeah, I think we got I think we gave him the point of what we're trying to what he probably wanted to do What we agreed was probably the better the more dominant parts of everyone's right? I think that's I you know It's funny the atoms toes when you yeah, that's right When you find someone who's got like a dominant body part, it's probably the body part they had to work the least on. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, you're right. Like, here's the thing about people with big cats. You're easy for you.

Yeah, oh yeah. Cats easy for me. Exactly. Like, if I worked out my legs, if I really, if I worked out my legs like Adam worked out his legs, I would look silly. It wouldn't make any sense. It's not fair.

You know what I'm saying? So, and same thing for your arms and delts and, you know, so far so. That's just one of those things. You can't have everything you want, you know. But be happy with what you got. That's it, man. Love yourself. Love yourself. And love us. Love us. Love us. Love us. Love us and share us. And you can find us on social media. I'm at Mind Pump Sal. I don't know if you have the Mind Pump Adam. Yeah, yeah. Since it is, it is national. it's gonna be, when this release, it'll be national quality. So if you guys, you know, your goal today,

it would be awesome. If you could try and share the podcast with five friends. Yeah. Like a chain letter. If you don't, you'll probably die. Yeah, so bad is gonna happen. You can find Justin at Mind Pump Justin. You can find Mind Pump at Mind Pump radio.

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