Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 279: Importance of Exercise Order, Healthy Relationship with Food, Gym of the Future & MORE

Episode Date: April 22, 2016

Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about what gyms will look like 50 years in the future, Adam’s contest prep now that he has talked crap about typical contest prep, the necessity of chir...opractic care for strength athletes, knowing when you have a healthy relationship with food and the importance of exercise order. Get MAPS Aesthetic NOW at www.mindpumpmedia.com Please subscribe, rate and review this show! Each week the best reviewers are announced on the show and sent Mind Pump T-shirts! Learn more about Mind Pump at www.mindpumpmedia.com.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Yeah, I got my dick in a box. Superior. I want to sound. I want to. I want to with the stats are on that. Like, you know how they, you know, obviously PR people pay attention to all that stuff, right? As far as like, like ability.
Starting point is 00:00:15 Yeah, like, like how much his like ability went up after he did that or how much it hurt his like image. Like if they actually went into it with that intention. What would they have it for politics? I'm sure they have it for like big celebrities. Yes, they have an image issue, right? Like somebody's managing their persona, like constantly. Well, you remember when the big Britney Spears thing,
Starting point is 00:00:33 remember that all the controversy behind her because she was like wearing the little schoolgirl dress already and she was only like 18 or 19. Do you remember that? Do you remember? She was climbing out of limos without underwear on. Yeah, that was later on. Yeah, that was later on. Yeah, that was later on.
Starting point is 00:00:47 Nobody else. Are we on? No, we gotta do commercial. We gotta do commercial. Why do we have to do, can't we just do like a, like real like we are bro, just talk about what it is we got going on. Like what's real?
Starting point is 00:00:59 Yeah, like maps. I don't care what we do, but we want to fucking sell. Just maps. Just like that. I don't care, be as natural but we want to fucking sell. Just maps us there. I don't care, be as natural as you want. Let's be clear. Well, then tell, don't shave your balls, let them hair. It's gonna be natural.
Starting point is 00:01:11 It's gonna be natural. Maps aesthetic is available. It's here. You guys have been waiting for it. You guys asked for it, we brought it to you. It's the only program we've created specifically designed to change how you look. It's an appearance based program.
Starting point is 00:01:22 This is why Adam likes it so much. Yeah, exactly. We want everybody to be sexy. I also think, you know, it's an appearance-based program. This is why Adam likes it so much. Exactly. We want everybody to be sexy. I also think, you know, on my level. The way we progress this one and the flexibility that this one has in comparison at the rest of them. They all have flexibility, but this one, I think, has the most moving parts,
Starting point is 00:01:38 which I find that cool. You can program into it how to target your weak body parts, and everybody has them. Everybody has that one body part, or two body parts I want to focus on. Well you can do that with maps aesthetic. Available right now mind pump media dot com. Doug has been a very gracious this entire time and has decided to put it on sale for
Starting point is 00:01:58 one oh seven which is a discounted price from the regular price. When does that price go up? Douglas, tell us next week I think right next week the twenty twenty ninth I believe. from the regular price, when does that price go up? Does it look? Tell us. Next week I think, right? Yeah, next week, the 29th I believe. Is it the 26th? Oh, 26, yeah. 26.
Starting point is 00:02:10 So April 26th is the last day for the sale price, but if they don't have 107, can they get started for less? Yes, for $44. $44, they can sign up, get the program, and then we're gonna throw in some stuff. Justin, you can use the throw in some socks that you wore or something like that? Yeah, yeah. Teachers, the smelly. Oh, I'm sorry're gonna throw in some stuff. Justin, weren't you gonna throw in some socks that you wore or something like that? Yeah, yeah.
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Starting point is 00:02:38 and Adam's favorite, the Occlusion Guide. Let me tell you something right now, though, the best part is that t-shirt. That t-shirt, black on black. You guys see that yet? I have. Yeah,'s a nice. Yeah, it makes you look awesome already It did am I sexy this level? Yeah, just wearing the shirt. It's like yeah the program, but the shirt Did you tell them the money back guarantee? Yeah, so money so so here's a deal all of our programs We do this and so a map systemic is no different in Roland maps aesthetic for 44 bucks
Starting point is 00:03:03 That's that's the total that you would need to sign up especially with our discounted rate Try it out for a month if it doesn't blow your mind Let us know we'll refund you 100% and we'll argue with you. Yeah, no because it's awesome No questions asked mind pump media dot com click it if you want to pump your body and expand your mind There's only one place to go And expand your mind. There's only one place to go. Mind, mind, up with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews.
Starting point is 00:03:33 Yucka, yucka, yucka, yucka, yucka, yucka, yucka, yucka. I didn't get that out. Huh? Yucka, yucka, yucka, yucka, yucka, yucka, yucka, yucka. That's weird. That's weird. Why is that weird? I don't fuck it. It's just weird. I'm just weird doing that. Yeah. It's also annoying, a little bit annoying. As Yeah, I don't fuck it. It's just weird. I find that. Yeah, it's also annoying a little bit annoying as a young child. Stop doing it. Always knew one day I'd be on a microphone and I'd always before I get started.
Starting point is 00:03:51 I'm so sorry. Like a young child. Practically. It's good. Dude. Can't take just my son does that. Just just just going and you're just like, oh, see, I feel like I feel like him and I would totally hit it off. No, you guys would have a whole conversation of that. It'd be ridiculous. You ever hit your kid for just for saying quads? This is just, yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:10 I'll shut him up. Shut up, kid. Never, never. Never happened. I spank my child, my children, a grand total of once. And I know this is weird hearing from the confessional. It is. I don't wanna go down there.
Starting point is 00:04:22 I know, just like, just like. Just like, what exactly do you do to just classify a spank? He leaves us. Confessional it is I don't want to go down. I know you're just like What exactly do this classify as spanking? Push him down the stairs is that considered no like an open hand? No, no, no, no, no, let me tell you I was raised I was raised by the wooden spoon This is how this is how the Italians raised their children and The Irish Japan and I was one time dude.. I spent my son on the butt, right? And he looked at me and I'm like, and this is what Don and I'm like,
Starting point is 00:04:54 and listen, I know we got listeners right now with kids who like to spank their kids, whatever. I was raised that way too, I get it, but this is just, I'm talking about my personal experience. I'm looking at him, I'm like, I wouldn't just go outside and see someone that's smaller than me and fucking hit him. Even if they said some shit to me, I wouldn't hit him because I'm like,
Starting point is 00:05:11 you're fucking way smaller, it's like great. I'm this big ass monster, and I just, you just feel like this like crazy animal. It just weird beasts. Yeah, I fell like, King Konging thing. Yeah, like I'm sure there's other ways I could get my horse across.
Starting point is 00:05:24 Right, right. You know what I'm saying? So then I sat and never did it again. I felt horrible about it other ways I could get my horse across. You know what I'm saying? So then I sat and never did again. I felt horrible about it and I still think about it to this day. Like yelling. Yeah. I'll smack the shit you had. I would never.
Starting point is 00:05:33 I would never ever ever ever ever. I hit a woman but I'd sure shake the shit out of one now. What? What? You know who that's from? Who's that from? You guys know bad. That's from Chris Rock.
Starting point is 00:05:44 Oh, okay. Yeah. That would never have been saying that. What? You know who that's from? Who's that from? You guys know bad. That's from Chris Rock. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. That was shit. I remember him saying that. Never, never, never, never, never. Shit, shit, shit, shit, that one.
Starting point is 00:05:54 Oh, man. Do you know, you guys want to know what's, what's, what's, what's full to the brand? You guys still listening? Okay. You guys want to know what's full to the brim that's just ready to, just feels, ready to erupt and explode my bladder
Starting point is 00:06:06 Oh, yeah, we get up something else. We get up. We're in here We record episodes we do our thing and then we all go pee at the same time. Don't ask me why it's just weird It's something the air but we we all caught we get out. We're walking down the hall Men's bathroom big sign at order. I look to the left Women's bathroom at order. We have no bathrooms. I was actually excited because I wanted to see the inside of the women's bathroom. Does that make me creepy? It does a little bit. Oh, is that yeah, that's weird.
Starting point is 00:06:34 Oh, I have to agree there. That's why I put the webcam on. There is a small part of it. I'm just curious. I just want to go in. I've never been in a woman's bathroom before. It's probably a house. Normally when I go in a-
Starting point is 00:06:43 That's not a creepy, huh? If I ever go into a woman's bathroom, you haven't, I mean, in every game. Uh, whatever. Normally when I do, it's like a gas station or a fast food place where you pull in,
Starting point is 00:06:55 you gotta go really bad. And it's a single bathroom and you see someone just walk out of the women's and it's, you know, it's saying that you can go in there and lock it yourself. I'll totally do that on that guy for sure. I like to go in the women's bathroom, like in the single ones that you're saying,
Starting point is 00:07:08 and I like to pee all over the seat because I want the next woman to go in there. I went and tried to figure that out. What the fuck? What woman would do this? Sammotage. Yeah, yeah. We have a code.
Starting point is 00:07:19 And then I have a little map in my car, and I just like, I highlight the gas stations at the market. I feel like they have a code. I feel like we don't have a code. Like anything goes. What do you mean? In the bathroom? No, there's a code. No, no, no. Yes, there is.
Starting point is 00:07:33 No, because I've seen guys pee in each of his feet. Whoa! I'm telling you, Drew. That happens. What's the code? There's a joke, but it still happens. Here's the code. Okay, Jess, let me ask you a question.
Starting point is 00:07:43 You walk in. Okay, you walk into the bathroom. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not going right next to the code. You walk, okay, Jess, let me ask you a question. You walk in, you walk into the bathroom. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not going right next to the dude. Exactly, exactly. If there's urinals or talk to the guy, who I'm peeing. No, you never talk to that guy.
Starting point is 00:07:53 If you do talk to him, you don't look at him. Exactly. And you definitely don't look down at him. You know, you definitely, all you do is you look straight ahead unless you can congratulate him or something. Or you watch your own, that's great. You never look to the left or to the right. You always look down.
Starting point is 00:08:09 Have you guys ever noticed in the urinals how they have like sometimes they'll have like a little tiny picture of something, like a little bumblebee or something? You ever notice that? I always pee on that. Do you know why that's why they put it in there? Right now.
Starting point is 00:08:19 Yeah, just do you know that? I know that. They put a bumblebee in there so you know. They put a little picture because they know that men instinctively will aim for it So what you're thinking is we can we can get like little like neon stickers and like put it like just off So we'll see how many guys pee on the walls bro. It's instinct big-good experiment. It's instinct. This is science Man if there's something that they can target when they go pee they will yeah, they will
Starting point is 00:08:44 Adam you're looking at all time. Why are you not will. It's very true. Adam, you're looking at me. I mean, it's all the time. Why are you not believe? I know, it's sad. I mean, that's how I clean my toilet. It's sad. It's sad. It's sad.
Starting point is 00:08:54 I mean, right? I'm talking to my only one here that's going to admit it. I'm just going to admit it. I was just blasted off the side of the toilet. Yeah, seriously. You don't need a, yeah. You're only a scrub. He's just you wait until you're like full tank.
Starting point is 00:09:09 You know what? Yes. You just ran that thing off like a power soaker. You know why I'm laughing right now? Because that's so true. There's everyone's done that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:19 Everybody. I didn't even know that was a thing. It's a more said thing, bro. And I'm like, I do that too. Yeah, man. There's something stuck there. I'm a blast. Oh, this just saved me a thing. It's a big brown like I do that too. Yeah, man. There's something stuck there. I'm a blast This just saved me a day I don't have to clean it eventually damn it. Yeah. Oh god your wife a two well. I know that she knows this already
Starting point is 00:09:41 It's the quick clock time. It's the quake quark. I'm gonna talk about that. Time. It's a motherfucking quark. It's here. Yes, it's here. Doug, what's our quest? Let's do this quick. I got to take a piss. Alright, his brobanion. What a gym he's asking what a gym will look like 50 years from now. Awesome. Go to the next one. Here we go. Come on. I like this one. This is awesome. No, I just mean to be able to do the bathroom. Tell us. Oh, yeah. Justin, you know, this actually a really good question. on, I like this one. This is awesome. No, I was thinking about bathroom. Tell us. Go ahead, Justin.
Starting point is 00:10:06 You've got to start sharing a really good question. No, I like it because it's something I think about a lot, especially with the integration of technology. And there's definitely a right way, I think that some people are going to go with this as far as it not being a hassle. So ways that it's going to be subtly integrated, that you're going to be able to get provided a lot of feedback
Starting point is 00:10:28 and biofeedback in general. People are gonna get smarter with, what's relevant as far as metrics and what's relevant feedback that's can actually motivate, but also progress you in the way that you need to go. And this is where I hate to tutor on horn, but this is one of those things that we think about that how we program our programs,
Starting point is 00:10:49 we are thinking long-term, and we're thinking about what's coming up next, and how do we progress properly, and how do we do things in a scientific fashion that's been, has a little more study behind it, and more relevance. And I think that eventually we're gonna get to a point where that's all, you know, has a little more study behind it and more relevance. And I think that eventually we're gonna get to a point where that's all gonna combine now
Starting point is 00:11:08 with these big tech giants that are trying to, just, they're just trying to hop and, they're, you know, putting their little toes in the water right now as far as like with metrics and fitness devices, but dude, they've spent zero, you know, like there's a whole department and Apple like devoted to fitness, they've done jack shit and I'm calling you out Apple.
Starting point is 00:11:28 Cause I want them to like get into it. You know what Apple should do? Apple if you're listening, this is what you do. They are listening. Apple if you're listening, you've got a lot of money. You've got a lot of money. You actually have more money than most companies. This is what you do.
Starting point is 00:11:43 Take 15 million dollars. Just give it to us. Give it to my pump. We will design totally into maximize it. We will design the future of fitness and it will make you guys way more than 15 million dollars. I guarantee it. Well, I'll tell you.
Starting point is 00:11:57 That's a great answer to that question. Yes. I'll tell you for sure, if nobody else does this, this is the gym that I will have built by that time, because for sure. Naked chick spotting you. No, no, check this out. So this is what I would build this gym
Starting point is 00:12:12 that was a 100% green. So the roof would be solar and everything. They have one in Oregon, right? So this is, and I have some evolution to what, and that's what gave me the idea originally. It wasn't like I was, this is all my own idea here, this thing, that they are working in a direction like this. This is gonna be green.
Starting point is 00:12:30 I just had, yeah, but. Because mine's gonna be powered by a coal plant right on the frickin' roof. It's gonna burn coal. You're a dick. I just want it, you know what I mean? No. Well, this is the cool part.
Starting point is 00:12:40 So, and this is like going in here about just in, and the metrics and the things that are coming as far as, that's been all the measure and be connected to our our weights and our equipment and machines, so that to give us our feedback on exactly how much our body's working and where we need to push or not push, right. I think that that's definitely in the future and the green gym that I would build would be like this to where there's this feedback. But not only feedback to you and all your devices that you have, but also feedback to the gym to where it would discount your membership. For example, everybody pays a fee of $500 a month
Starting point is 00:13:14 as your fee. And that's what it's gonna end up costing you if you don't use the gym. If you come in and you generate energy because all the equipment, all the tools will generate energy when you use it, so the treadmills. It's like these solar guys pitches, right? Or they come at you and they're talking about like how much you're going to save.
Starting point is 00:13:30 But then you basically are selling back your energy. Exactly. You've created it. So if you are somebody who puts a lot of work into the gym, you're going to put a lot of energy back into the building, which in turn is going to save us money on the electrical and everything else, which we're going to discount you on your membership. Yeah. That's smart. No, it's smart. I mean, but why? which in turn is gonna save us money on the electrical and everything else, which we're gonna discount you on your membership.
Starting point is 00:13:45 Yeah, that's smart. No, it's smart. I mean, but why do you do it? He's creating hamsters. Well, you realize that, right? No. You don't like that? No, I don't.
Starting point is 00:13:54 Look at, I'm smiling. I'm smiling. Adam, I don't add him smiling back and he's thinking of stuff like, South thinks he's agreeing with my idea. No, I'm smiling because I don't. We're talking 50 years from today. So this is the year 2006.
Starting point is 00:14:10 Okay, you did do it. This could be next. This could be like in the next five. No, 2006, 2006. I don't think that we're gonna be at the point where we're looking for humans to create energy. No, we're not looking for mechanical energy for humans. But welcome to the future, when we create energy
Starting point is 00:14:26 by having people exercise. I think labor. Here's what I think. I think you're going to see artificial intelligence, maybe not fully self-aware, but I think you're going to get where equipment we'll talk back to you and train you. You might have a hologram in the gym showing you what to do.
Starting point is 00:14:41 We might have discovered by this point how to truly hack the body and stimulate those, you know, forms of adaptation that we do through exercise simply through other forms, either, you know, a pill or some type of genetic modification. And it sounds crazy, but 50 years from today forward is a lot of time to make ridiculous advancements because advancements happen faster and faster. Now knowing what I know now, and forgetting artificial intelligence, forgetting like breakthroughs and medicine,
Starting point is 00:15:13 and just trying to picture what they'll look like now 50 years from now, I would say that you're gonna see more and more boutique, more and more specialized facilities, people, it's fitness is gonna be more. It's gonna be a novelty. Totally individualized. Yeah, it'll be a novelty, people, it's fitness is going to be more novelty. Totally individual. Yeah, it'll be a novelty.
Starting point is 00:15:27 Like if you're talking about, yeah, like what 50 years would actually look like it. I think you're right. Like it, like somebody that's in really good shape and didn't naturally is going to be like a novelty. Like they're going to have so many things available that you could optimize your body, you know, artific, that it's just going to be ridiculous. So, it's like, why would you even try to do it the old school way?
Starting point is 00:15:51 And plus, I think the next standard is going to be how much longer you're living than the next person. That's what you're going to be competitive about. Dude, 50 years from now, we're going to be creating, we're going to be genetically modifying our children. And people think, no, that's not gonna happen. Yes, it is. And it already is.
Starting point is 00:16:08 It's going with selective genes. It's going to happen. People are gonna be six something foot tall and have great genes. And oh, you had a heart, don't worry if your heart looks bad. We're gonna replace it with this one we grew in the lab. That's coming in our lifetime. I hope I can see this in my lifetime.
Starting point is 00:16:26 So I don't know, it's kind of weird, but I do think fitness is just getting more and more individualized. I don't think you're going to see these big gems that do everything with, you know, we all for a real big. We all for a cardio. It's going to be very specialized is what I think. So you think my idea, I forgot the zero. I forgot the zero and my answer.
Starting point is 00:16:45 Fucking dick. It's just zero, and my answer. Fucking dick. It's just totally pooping on me. And I can't argue that because you're in 50 years. No, I know. You're putting in perspective because when I was thinking was definitely a lot sooner, it's going to happen like 5, 10 years probably. Now I think I think 50 years from now we want to recognize. I know, you're right.
Starting point is 00:17:04 50 years is a long. That's how things are progressing. Well look where we are now in compared to 50 years ago Is doubling and tripling in speed. So it's just like what are you in unless there's an apocalypse and fucking you know Man kind goes back to the Stone Age in which a gym will look like yeah rocks and bolder We'll be robots Next question. Yeah from mix moves mix move. This is for you Adam. Oh look at that. Yeah, from Mick Smooth. This is for you, Adam. Oh, look at that. Yeah. He is asking about what your contest prep would look like now that you've talked crap about typical contest. You can take this one. You can take a taxi. My prep would look pretty damn similar actually. I talk a lot of shit about contest prep
Starting point is 00:17:48 and eating six meals a day because people do that because they think they have to do that. I still eat four to six meals and I've talked a little bit about this. I think when I talked about my contest prep, so I share how I would do my contest prep on mind pump when I went through my contest prep on mind pump. So if you haven't listened to those episodes back then,
Starting point is 00:18:07 definitely you can go back where I was getting ready for the San Jose show. Although there probably there was a couple of things maybe I would do a little bit different. My fat intake, since I did the ketogenic diet, it definitely changed my relationship with carbohydrates. I feel like my body no longer needs as high as a carbohydrate intake as I was before. I'm eating way more fats than I've ever ate in my life.
Starting point is 00:18:32 I feel a ton better that way, so that's why I would change that. But as far as, that's, so the macro breakdown would be a little bit different for me as far as how I would do that. I still like carb cycling for cutting for a show, so I would still utilize that. I would not not carb cycle. I like that a lot, but I also integrate intermittent fasting in there.
Starting point is 00:18:53 I've always done that. Neat is a major protocol to all of my training and any clients that I train for shows. So there's not a lot that would change that way. And I actually do eat like six meals a day, especially when I'm getting ready to get into showtime because I actually like portioning it all out. I've got to eat a lot. I'm a bigger guy.
Starting point is 00:19:14 So, you know, I'm consuming 3,500 to 4,500 calories minimum, sometimes higher than that. That's hard to get in two or three meals. So when I'm gearing up for showtime, I'm still going to eat at least four to six times. Now as I get into my cut and I'm getting and I'm cutting back on food and I get as low as about 2,500 calories, well once I start getting that, then maybe I might only eat twice in a day or whatever. But I don't really focus on- Well, see that's very different because the prevailing recommendations
Starting point is 00:19:46 is to increase your meal frequency the closer you get to contest. Yeah. You know, more, more small meals. Yeah, because they think the thermogenic I can. Yeah, but you're actually eating less because now you're only eating 2500 calories. Yeah, and then to me, I always thought that made more sense. It does. You know, and that's also why I I I bash the six meals because people think there's science behind the six meals. I still teach people six meals a lot times four to six, especially if it's a bigger person. If I have a tiny little 130 pound girl, she's not eating six times, but if I got a guy who's 300 something pounds, I actually do portion out his meals and, you know, four to six meals. And I'm teaching him portion control and teaching him how to look,
Starting point is 00:20:24 what does 500 calories actually look like because somebody who is that obese or that one somebody who's losing a ton of weight like that. A lot of times, I don't understand how many calories it is. But then once I teach them the structure and portion control, then I let them go free. It doesn't matter if you eat five times, four times, two times as long as we get what the body needs every day. So my training philosophy for a show is definitely not changed at all in the last couple of years, except for probably the fat, I would say. I mean, Matt's black, which just came out, is pretty is exactly how I prep for a show.
Starting point is 00:20:59 I mean, that's what inspired that to the next level is because once I brought these guys in it, you know, they even made me more aware of some of my programming designing and how I put things together and making sure we're pairing the right exercises and giving adequate rest to muscles and not over training certain things. And so, I mean, we just, we basically took what I was already doing and took it to the next level with all of our minds together. But really, for the most part, I wouldn't change any of my contest preparation. Cassidy H626 is asking, why does exercise order matter? Exercise order is one piece of the programming pie. It's very important because the order of the exercise determines the type of adaptation you're looking for.
Starting point is 00:21:46 At least it contributes to what type of adaptation you're looking for. For example, if I do, let's say I do leg extensions or sissy squats before I do barbell squats, well I'm pre-exhausting my quads and I may be after a better pump of my quads, so I might be looking for more of a psychroplasmic hypertrophy type of adaptation.
Starting point is 00:22:08 If I squat first and then do a leg extension or CISC squat at the end, well now maybe my goal is to focus on the adaptation of maximal strength. If I try flipping those for maximal strength, if I'm looking for maximal strength and I pre-exhaust my quads with CISC squats, it's not a good idea. It's not a good idea, I'm not gonna get that. Can I be done? Sure, but it's not it. It's not
Starting point is 00:22:28 good programs. No, it's not good program design. A simple, real simple example would be to hit your biceps before you do your back. For example, biceps are involved in most compound or all compound back movements. Hitting them hard before working back would really limit your ability to track from your performance. It would detract from your performance. So, exercise orders extremely important in that respect, just like the exercises themselves and the tempo and the reps. It's just one of those things. And you can't, if you take a program, for example, if you take program design that we put
Starting point is 00:23:02 together, like on maps aesthetic, for example, and you're looking at the program design and you don't understand how the program is done, and you bounce from exercise to exercise, just checking them off the list. It's not going to be the same, not at all. Yeah, it'll be a completely different program. If you understand program design, however, and you're looking at the exercise, and it says barbell row, and you're like, shit, the barbells are all taken. But you get an understanding of the program design, well, then you can probably go and do a dumbbell row or a T bar row to supplement or to take it to replace the barbell
Starting point is 00:23:37 row. So exercise orders, it's huge. That's very, very huge. Well, you also get to come in to play too with, you talk about maps black, how we, you know, the focus sessions, the order of those exercises compared to the foundational days, there's specific ones that we chose for you guys to be able to choose from on focus sessions because I don't want you doing like Salisette, a maximal strength squat on Monday, then turning around on Tuesday, just because maybe glutes are your muscle that you want to focus on, and you're doing heavy barbell squats again. You know, that just doesn't, that doesn't make sense.
Starting point is 00:24:09 That, what you did the day before is probably going to hinder that workout, but I don't mind you doing maybe some leg single leg leg press or glute kicks or doing something else, you know, that something that's less taxing on the body. It's not so, that order is important when we, when we take into consideration of order of exercise also. Yeah, I just immediately think like you brought up example with the biceps and like having a muscle that's already exhausted going into one of the major compound lifts is such a dumb idea. Like, you know, like you can do, have such a more effective workout if you're like focused on,
Starting point is 00:24:39 you know, the adaptation of strength or power or something like that where it's like, you need everything to fire at its optimal capacity. And if I'm going in already, you know, exhausting like one portion that's contributing to that, it's a different workout. And so why not do it the, you know, the way that is going to optimize your workout the best. It does. And this is also one of the reasons why you'll find people doing heavy, freeway, barbell, dumbbell movements, typically at the beginning of a workout. And I'm talking about body parts split people. Not our favorite way to program routine, but a lot of people still do it.
Starting point is 00:25:14 That's why a lot of times you'll see them do their big compound movements in the beginning, and they'll go more towards the machines and cables at the end. Reversing the order, you would leave the most difficult, the most stressful, the exercise that require the most, you know, gross motor movement. At the end, not a good idea. It's going to, it's going to break down and you're not going to get the, the, the bang for your buck. Fit for real is asking, is it necessary for strength athletes to get adjusted at the chiropractor?
Starting point is 00:25:44 Yeah. The, the, the quick answer is no. Yeah, not necessary. No, not at all. It can be beneficial. It can also be detrimental. It can. Okay, a lot of it depends on the chiropractor. Here's a thing with,
Starting point is 00:25:57 I am not gonna pretend to be an expert at chiropractic care. I understand it at a level higher than most people because I work with chiropractors, but I am in no way a chiropractor. And the way I explain to my clients is chiropractors are experts at your structure. They're experts at understanding bone structure and joint structure. I am an expert at understanding muscle function. So I know that with proper muscle function and with without muscle imbalances, you should be able to have good joint function and good structure. If muscle imbalances occur or are present as they are with most people, then you're going to see things
Starting point is 00:26:36 quote unquote get out of alignment. The problem I've seen with certain chiropractor is they just continue to adjust you and put you in alignment, then you go back to your workout, you don't correct what put you out of alignment in the first place, and you just keep going back out of alignment. And so you end up developing this weekly or, you know, bi-monthly routine of constantly going to the chiropractor. My view is that the chiropractor should be there to help you adjust and help you to not give you exactly. is that the chiropractor should be there to help you adjust and help you to know.
Starting point is 00:27:05 And it's the same. Exactly. I've gone to chiropractors where I would go regularly and I end up, this is my personal experience, I end up becoming more prone to injury because the constant popping and clicking and then I go, do my workout and then it pops back out or whatever and this becomes real painful.
Starting point is 00:27:21 So for me, I've used chiropractors on much more for sporadic basis, but then I have clients that go once a month, and the chiropractors that I refer people to are very good at modifying and adjusting what they do based upon what they see in the client. They don't just constantly come in and just keep cracking them and adjusting them. So, I don't know if you guys would.
Starting point is 00:27:40 Yeah, I mean, I've had a lot of experiences with chiropractors and about the 99 percent of them were not the greatest just because and even the ones that were pretty smart, a lot of them they have two things they have to do. One not only do that to be smart, but then they have to also have a lot of integrity because part of their business relies on them, you coming back, you know session after session after session after session after session to readjust you. When in reality, they know just like we know, you're not really addressing the root cause. The root cause of your, you know, being in balance like that or a curve going on in your body unless you were naturally born with that, your muscles are pulling in that shaping
Starting point is 00:28:22 the body that way. So joints can't move through full range of motion or you're starting to get this curve and you're spine because your body's starting to round. But that's starting first from the muscles. The muscles are shortening because we've talked about before and they're overactive. And then what's happening is it's starting to curve and shape the body and sure they pop you right back
Starting point is 00:28:40 into place and you get this initial relief. But those same muscles that we're fighting that go right back to pulling it if you don't address all the corrective work inside the gym. So if you don't address the root cause, then I'm pretty much signing after you. And to be honest, most, I, very, very few chiropractors that I ever had clients coming to had this, you know, and I thought, I think I posted about this just recently on Instagram about how you know when you got a good one is because not only do they adjust you or fix you, but then they also give you your homework
Starting point is 00:29:08 on what you need to be doing inside the gym to maintain this. You know, yeah, I popped you back, you feel great, but you need to work on this imbalance. You are still, these shoulders are pulling forward and we gotta stretch this and train this. You know, if he's not doing that or she's not doing that, then, you know, they're doing you a disservice because you're pretty much signing up for them for life then.
Starting point is 00:29:27 Yeah, the chiroles that I work with, I work with. So I'll send a client to them and then they'll tell me what they saw and if they have any ideas or suggestions, that's the idea. And then we go back before. Yeah, so you can be in constant communication. Then they can just be there, like I said,
Starting point is 00:29:41 for like tweaking and doing the tune ups, to then bring you back to addressing these issues muscularly. Yes. Eheris 9411, how do you know when you have a healthy relationship with food? Oh. That's a great question.
Starting point is 00:29:59 I think when you start to view food as fuel, when you look at view food as fuel, when you look at food and you see, your positive reaction to food is in relationship to how it nourishes you and how it makes you feel. When you look at food and you can see, well, if you have a negative reaction to the food, it's not because, oh no, I'm gonna get fat, it's because it just doesn't nourish my body,
Starting point is 00:30:28 it doesn't feel good. That is, if you're trying to avoid eating foods that you don't wanna eat, if you're trying to avoid sugar, you're trying to avoid processed foods, you're trying to avoid foods that you know aren't good for you, one way to do it is to look at that food and say it's
Starting point is 00:30:45 going to make me fat. That's not very effective long term. The most effective long term way I've ever found is to understand how that food makes you feel, to understand how it nourishes or doesn't nourishes your body. Because then it's very easy to say no. It's very easy for me, if there were donuts right here on the table, it's easy for me to look at them and say, I don't want any. And it's not because I can't have any. It's because I'd rather not, because I know how I connect with the feeling
Starting point is 00:31:15 that I get from eating those donuts, and it's not just the taste, right? The taste is great, but then it's the potential inflammation or how I feel about what I eat. Am I nourishing and taking care of myself about eating this food? And it becomes a second nature. It's not something I have to constantly think about.
Starting point is 00:31:32 When you can get to the point where you're not constantly thinking about food, like it's this, it rules your entire day, then you're doing pretty good. If your food is running and ruling your day, then your relationship to food needs some work, in my opinion. Have you ever heard of this saying how you do anything is how you do everything? It's a great saying.
Starting point is 00:31:53 And I think that this applies with this also because you first have to understand that it's a relationship, just like you said in it, how do you know you have a healthy relationship? Like any relationship, it's ongoing growth. You're not gonna have a perfect relationship with food just like you're not gonna have a perfect relationship with your spouse. That's just that's part of life is trying to improve and try and do better. And that's I think that's the first big step to a healthy relationship is understanding that it's a relationship and understanding that you're always trying to improve. You're, you know, you, you just like what happened to me recently, like I don't think I have a perfect relationship
Starting point is 00:32:31 with food. I think I have a very healthy relationship with food. And part of what comes with that is being self-aware and open-minded to things that I mean that I need may need to address in my own diet. For example, when I made the comment to you about the carbohydrates, like right away, I reflected on what came out of my own diet. For example, when I made the comment to you about the carbohydrates, right away, I reflected on what came out of my own mouth.
Starting point is 00:32:48 I thought, well, that's not a healthy relationship for food with food for me to say that, I don't wanna give up carbs, or, oh, you're crazy this to that? Like, why, if what you're saying could be true, this could benefit me, and I might get something out of this, why would I not allow myself to try this? Because ultimately it is about how I feel
Starting point is 00:33:05 and that's what I wanna see. So it's interesting. I was just listening to you and like it totally sparked this and I was kind of laughing because it was like thinking about pleasure and like relationship, like in your own relationship. If you're constantly just seeking pleasure out of it and it's physical and think about like,
Starting point is 00:33:24 how long that lasts and then what it does, you know, to the relationship. It's a good time, huh? It's, yeah, but man, man, you're gonna get into those twinkies like weird. But yeah, like, as far as like looking at what you're trying to get out of it, like, not from like such a selfish point of view of like, this is gonna give me, you know,
Starting point is 00:33:48 this immediate like fix, this pleasure, it's a different sort of outlook, you know, to have with it like long term. Like looking at health and what a healthy relationship looks like. Like I wanna have a healthy relationship with food, you know, with my spouse, like everything has to like to, it has this sort of harmony where both things, I'm not going to immediately go for that pleasure for this twinkie or this whatever. I'm going to eat something that is probably going to benefit me in the rest of my working
Starting point is 00:34:19 parts. Well, just think about how you approach every relationship too. You have this, if you go in with selfish motives all time or the wrong attitude or I mean, you could look at it, the parallels are ridiculous. It's exactly the same. You know, you, you have to have this, this attitude of, I'm not perfect, but I'm trying to give, every day, I'm trying to get better. And at every, every pitfall or mistake that I make, I'm not perfect, but I'm trying to get, but every day I'm trying to get better. And at every, every pitfall or mistake that I make, I'm not going to dwell on it. I'm not going to beat myself up over it. I'm going to own it. I'm going to realize it. And I'm going to try and be better tomorrow. And I just keep going the same. And that's the same
Starting point is 00:34:56 approach that I would have. And that's why I said that quote of, you know, how you do anything is how you do everything is that's my same approach with every relationship. No, whether it be a business relationship, a friendship, a set of spouse or whatever, none are perfect, but your goal ultimately, I would assume, is to better that and to better yourself. Well, what you're doing is you're bringing awareness. And I think a lot of us with food,
Starting point is 00:35:23 we are simply not aware of why. Why I'm eating this, why do I like it? Why may I not like it? And once you bring awareness to it, then you can start moving forward. And I remember, I mean, it wasn't that long ago where my relationship to food really started to change and I'll explain what I mean.
Starting point is 00:35:41 It's like, I will eat food and I'll appreciate the way it tastes now, less because of the short term taste of it and more because of what that taste means to me. Let me explain. Like, if I eat again, if I eat some shitty sugary cereal right now, now I can literally taste the chemicals in it. I can taste the fakeness in it. I can taste the sugar in it.
Starting point is 00:36:04 Whereas ruins it. It ruins it. When I was a kid, or you know, not even that long ago, 15 years ago, chemicals in it. I can taste the fakeness in it. I can taste the sugar in it. Whereas ruins it. It ruins it. Whereas when I was a kid, or not even that long ago, 15 years ago, I'd eat it and be like, this is so good. Now I eat it. You get that feeling like it's sugar. Yeah, now I eat it and I'm like,
Starting point is 00:36:15 it doesn't taste the same to me anymore. Yeah, you're anticipating the crash now. I'm either in, it just, my relationship to that taste is how I feel. Does that make sense? So now if I eat, it's like I just had some salmon earlier, some broccoli or whatever, and I bite into it, that taste has now become so good to me
Starting point is 00:36:33 because I've just associated it with how I feel and how it nourishes my body. And before I got to that point, I had to become very aware of what the food was doing to me. I had to become very aware of the taste within food. to me. I had to become very aware of the tastes within food. Even now when I go to a restaurant and I eat something and I could taste, I could taste immediately, this has kind of an artificial taste to it
Starting point is 00:36:55 or it looks like the sauce has a lot of sugar and it just, it doesn't attract me like it used to. And let me tell you something, when you reach this point, eating healthy for your body becomes almost effortless. It becomes amazing. And if you did, if right now you're listening to me and you're disagreeing with me, and you're like, no, it's all about the taste.
Starting point is 00:37:15 It's all about the taste. That is complete bullshit. Let me tell you, let me ask you this question right now. Think of a comfort food that you've had since you were a child. I guarantee you had you not had that food as a child as a comfort food, you eat it now and it tastes like shit. I'll give you an example. You know, somebody like, we'll say,
Starting point is 00:37:31 oh, macaroni, craft macaroni and cheese from the box. I had a friend tell me this the other day. I like craft macaroni and cheese. That is shit. If you taste it now and you've never had it before, it tastes like crap. But he had made the association of that food as when he wasn't feeling good, his mom would make it and it reminded him of his mom and it reminded him when he was a kid. I've never had it before. It's like plastic. It tastes like crap. But he had made the association of that food
Starting point is 00:37:45 as when he wasn't feeling good, his mom would make it and he reminded him of his mom and he reminded him when he was a kid. And that's his comfort food. So that's what relationship means, is change your association with that food, change that association with that taste and that flavor. And then your relationship to food
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