Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 339: Best % of Max, Building Lagging Body Parts, Estrogen Blockers & MORE
Episode Date: August 3, 2016Kimera-Quah! In this episode of Quah, sponsored by Kimera Koffee (kimerakoffee.com, code "mindpump" for 10% off), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about the percentage of max for each pha...se of MAPS, 15 year old boys and creatine, PEDs in the UFC and the use of estrogen blockers, the best approach to working on weak body parts and the Astrological signs of the Mind Pump Crew. Get MAPS Anabolic, MAPS Performance, MAPS Aesthetic and the Butt Builder Blueprint (The RGB Super Bundle) packaged together at a substantial DISCOUNT at www.mindpumpmedia.com. Please subscribe, rate and review this show! Each week our favorite reviewers are announced on the show and sent Mind Pump T-shirts! Have questions for Mind Pump? Each Monday on Instagram (@mindpumpradio) look for the QUAH post and input your question there. (Sal, Adam & Justin will answer as many questions as they can)
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Who turns you on the most?
Justin, when he wears, when he wears
him so short.
We are.
I, you know what?
I didn't have a minute.
I got too weird.
Give me a fist bump on that, Adam.
Yeah.
That's creepy.
What are these, what are these,
what are these episodes sound like?
I ain't gonna say anything.
We're just a little slow.
Look at him in his eyes. I don't gonna say anything. We're just a little slow.
Look at him in his eyes.
I don't know if they're sweating.
I don't know, Justin, you go ahead and answer that.
If we ever do lots of hard drugs together, I think Justin's in danger.
I'm literally not gonna do that.
Because, no.
I recommend not doing that.
Yeah, what do you know?
What do we do on Doug?
We're gonna give away some shirts.
Let's fucking do it.
We do that every single time.
What do the shirts look like, Doug? Let's give them all away. They are mine, Po? We're gonna give away some shirts. Let's fucking deal it. We do that every single time. What do the shirts look like, Doug?
Let's give them all away.
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Oh, Adam.
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These are the limited edition shirts.
There's gonna be a point where we're gonna stop making these
and you'll never be able to get these again.
Exactly.
And that bomb diggery.
That point is really soon.
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The ones that are black and orange.
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Yes.
We have 19 reviews this week.
Wow.
Nice.
Stepping up.
Stepping up.
Couple of people I guess.
Yeah, I think people are getting off summer vacation
and they're actually doing their job here.
I feel that, I feel you know, when I feel like July
was kind of a, kind of a lull.
You just feel like that? I feel like I feel like. Isn kind of a lull.
Just feel like that.
I feel like I feel like.
Isn't that typical of the fitness industry though?
It is.
24-arm fitness used to do their Hawaii competition
everywhere because Mark Maastroff knew that year and after
year after year, that was the worst month,
even worse than December and November.
Everybody's traveling and vacationing.
Yeah, it's a further, like for the July,
it's like the first real official holiday for like all schools to be out and everything. So it's like people take off and it's traveling, vacation, and all that. Yeah, it's a great way. For the July is like the first real official holiday for like all schools to be out and everything.
So it's like people take off and it's hot.
You know what I'm saying?
Who wants to be in a gym?
Who wants to be, you know, listening to a podcast
when it's all hot outside?
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You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? on the studio, we had personal training, massage, all that stuff. Our busiest months were the summer months.
Like the most walk in traffic came in in the summer months,
which was crazy, because in the gym industry, it was dead.
It's wild.
Yeah, that is wild, because that is the opposite.
12 years in a row, it was always the busiest
right in the summertime.
And December, it was just shit.
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If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go.
Might, might, up with your hosts, Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews.
How fun was yesterday? Oh, at the, at the Orange Theory Seminar. I have to say, Sal finally
did a good job. Every time. Every time picked on it. Every time. Well, you know what, I
know, I didn't realize it until we were started doing this. How much Justin and I feed off you.
Mm-hmm.
You know, we really we rely on you to be sound.
You give me a lot of me.
Yeah, I need you to be sound.
When you're not sound, it's just then everything else is
something that I'm not at him and then Justin.
I'm not just enough.
Am I like that whale in the ocean that's got the fish?
Eating his little like gills and stuff.
Yeah, I'm cleaning your teeth.
It is, it's clear. I had stuff. Yeah, I'm cleaning your teeth.
It is, it's got a clear, I had a good time.
I had a good time and there were a couple moments there
where I felt, because here's the thing.
When we get on the mics here,
we've definitely gotten better over the last year and a half,
but there's this feeling of, it's just so natural.
I'm just, the flow is there, we're in our element.
I don't know, it just feels just you were in the zone, right?
When we do these seminars, I've done seminars before you guys have done them before I have no problem speaking in front of people
but it's very it's different. It's a seminar and I have yet to feel that flow and
Yesterday there were a couple moments where I felt it start to come out a little bit where I felt kind of like
Tony Robbins-h coming out.
And one was when we were talking about the signals of the body, listening to the body.
And then the other was when I talked about how Dr. Kellogg invented Kellogg's cornflakes
to prevent masturbation.
And everybody kind of felt like that was a fun fact.
That was an excellent fun fact.
That's what I'm talking about.
Normally you're good for one of those when we sit down and we hang out that I There's a sandwich.
There is.
I am not gonna give you shit.
I'm not gonna give you shit.
I'm already that giving you a little bit stinky in the middle.
I feel fuck.
I feel so good.
Today's the first day of work, dude.
Bull time.
My pump goes full new.
No more topless.
It was pretty obvious who cares about our business the most.
Justin and then myself, then you and then Doug obviously doesn't give a shit.
He just showed up whenever he wants.
He's happy.
That's just like this.
Well, this shit doesn't start unless I get there.
I'm gonna fuck.
To be fair, to be fair, Doug lives the closest.
Oh shit.
You literally live right down the street.
Doug could walk here.
Justin lives far as fuck. And he's got two kids. So I can't use the kids excuse. Although this morning, I'll tell you what, you literally live right down the street. That's a good walk here. Justin lives far as fuck.
And he's got two kids, so I can't use the kids' excuse.
Although this morning, I'll tell you what,
you ever have this happen Justin?
You're trying to get ready, got to get out of the house
or whatever, your kids doing something.
And they decided that the last minute, just to fuck shit up.
Like my daughter just said,
I'm gonna dump this entire fucking bowl of cereal
and I'll milk all over my bowl.
Like I can't find the shoes.
Oh my son threw them outside somewhere
What have you ever taken you said where do your kids go in the morning when you drop them off somewhere?
Gram of grandpa's or yeah, you ever bring them there. We're just like all right kid. You're just wearing flip flops
We're not finding your shit today. Yeah, it's like jammy's like hey mom figure this out
That's what you gotta do. Make lunches again. Whoops. That's what you gotta do with kids man.
They just they just throw shit at you. Yeah. Yeah. When you do drop a moth at mama dads
do you get it? Do you still have to pack their lunch or do they take care? Oh wow. You
still pack their lunch even for grandma and grandpa. Here's the thing. If he does it. Yeah.
Is that like a courtesy?
There's like a, no, no, I don't even wanna get into that.
I do wanna get into this.
Really?
Yeah, because this is how you throw my parents
into the bus.
They don't listen.
No of our parents listen.
None of our parents listen.
We're okay.
My mom listens.
Oh, your mom does?
Yeah, I love her.
She's the best mom for you.
She's the best mom amongst the moms.
Yeah, obviously we're gonna talk nothing but highly about everything.
No, I know what Justin does. I know exactly why he packs him lunches.
Because if he doesn't, then the kids are gonna have some shit that he doesn't want them to have for lunch.
That's it. That's 100% it. And then they still get shit, you know, when they get
going. Yeah, it's so it's tough. But, you know, also too, I'm just trying to create peace,
you know, because they're helping me on a lot of ends.
Like, the thing is, you think grandma and grandpa,
you think like, okay, you know,
you just become this babysitting service.
Yeah, and I mean, you can't look at it like that
because you're gonna burn them out.
Of course.
And so, me, like, I have to take extra steps and do a lot
in order to be able to then get a date night.
Or you know what I mean?
Like you have to really think about the strategically.
So this is my advice for anybody out there
that's a new parent or whatever.
Like don't just drop them off thinking like,
oh, Graham, grab it, they're gonna be happy
with this forever. They're not.
No, you gotta get burned out.
But I'll pick in shoes, right? So you get totally. No, you gotta burn out. But I'll look.
Yeah, picking shoes, right?
So you get totally.
How do you do with the sugar thing?
Cause, cause, it's so frustrating, like,
all, you know, the kids will be eating dinner
and then they're not hungry or they're acting funny
and I'll be like,
Yeah.
Did you guys have sugar today?
And my kids will be like, no.
That's a dumb question.
No, I'm not didn't give a sugar today
and I'll be, look, my mom will get all pissed off.
I don't give a sugar all the time. I'll be like, okay, give me the rundown of what they ate today. No, not didn't give a sugar today. And I'll look at my mom and get all pissed off. I don't give them sugar all the time.
I'll be like, okay, give me the rundown of what they ate today.
This, that, the other, and then, oh, and I gave her,
and I guess it's, so you didn't give me anything else, huh?
No, no, nothing else.
I'm gonna have to apply for the McDonald's.
Oh, I gave him some yogurt.
I'm like, oh, let me look at the yogurt real quick,
open the fridge.
Oh, it's goger.
It's the fucking sugar.
It's the neon pink, yeah, pretend to be yogurt stuff stuff. That's just yeah, it's like that kind of stuff
You know what I mean? Yeah, or I'll look in the you know, I'm like a box of cheesets, which is my favorite snack by the way
Oh cheesets. Oh my god. My life loves us too. I'll eat I haven't had a cheesets like crack
You know, it's even worse than that. It is amazing Doritos
Fucking Doritos. No, I got one for it. It's so artificial and it's even worse than that, but it's amazing Doritos fucking Doritos.
No, I got one for it.
It's like so artificial and it's delicious.
I got one for you.
Here's a cracker that I used to love and I still, if it's in front of me, I'll eat the hell out of them.
And it's the weirdest cracker of all time.
Chicken and abiscus.
Oh, I love chicken and abiscus.
Do you remember that?
Oh my god, that's our generation for sure.
But what is that?
I have no idea what it is. And how do you artificially flavor a chicken?
What is that?
No, I'll beat that.
Shrimp.
Remember a cup of noodles?
Yeah.
Shrimp flavor.
Shrimp flavor.
What's shrimp?
This is like pixie does shrimp.
But chicken and the biscuit is like,
they took a bunch of crackers and then they got a bullion cube
and just crushed it up and shut it in there
and so they shook it in there.
So then you eat these crackers
and they taste like chicken soup.
Yeah, it's weird.
And for some reason, it's really good.
It's tasty.
It's really, really good.
That one in the vegetable one.
I forgot all about that.
What's the vegetable one?
No, the vegetable one.
That was like shaped like little vegetables and stuff.
You don't remember that.
And it has like a kind of a spicier cake to it.
Oh, I can't think of the name of those right now.
Doug, you know what I'm talking about?
They're like, and they were writing,
the chicken and biscuits and those were the,
the other one, those were the two crackers
that we always had growing up.
Oh, I figured out somebody who's listening knows,
we eat triskits.
Did you have triskits?
Triskits.
That's like the most grossest.
Yeah, it doesn't taste like anything.
Straight up like bark.
What did you put on it?
No, they make flavor, they make rosemary.
They have a rosemary,
like a rosemary, garlic,
and a little bit.
Yeah.
What did you put on your trisket?
Cheese of course
Sausage she's the fuck out of it cheese it all day. No, I would sit I would sit
Do you guys even eat crackers? I don't have an app. I don't have a shit if I get wine
If I'm gonna do like a wine thing we're doing cheese and crackers, but other than that
I don't it's such an empty experience
You know it doesn't for fit it is now right? It's just like, I'm doing this.
You know, my hand is it's putting things in my mouth.
I was explaining that to my sister this weekend.
I think one of the biggest things I've made
as far as change is in nutrition nowadays is,
now if I eat off the plan or if I'm, you know,
I know I'm not eating something I deal,
I still try and target something that is semi beneficial.
It's something that's worth it.
Yeah, like you know, like a big old burger like burger that's to fill you up.
Yeah, and you get some good protein out of there.
You get there's a lot of there's a lot of benefit.
They're getting on their cheese.
There is.
There's some fucking do this.
They're getting some good benefit from that where you know, you eat something like macaroni
and cheese or fucking chicken biscuits like that.
That doesn't even there's no nutritional value.
There's nothing. You're getting no nutritional value out of that whatsoever.
So I try and I try and spend my calories.
I feel like on on a semi investments.
That's how I look at it.
Right.
I'm going to blow my money.
I'm going to blow my macro.
A lot on something I want to do it on something that I feel like at least after I enjoyed
the shit out of that.
I walked.
Bro, I used to I think about some of the shit I used to do when I sit in front of the TV as a kid,
like, eat cereal.
But not with milk, just out of the box.
Like it was like a box of crackers.
That's how I can eat it.
They don't eat it with milk, really?
They eat cereal, yeah.
They just eat it out of the box.
Yeah.
It's weird.
Because we used to get the, we didn't get the brand name cereal though.
We didn't get the life.
Oh, I got all the generic stuff.
Yeah, I wasn't, the clear plastic bag. Exactly. exactly it wasn't it wasn't lucky charms. It was a marshmallow
maybe the bastard fruit loops. Like fruityos or something. Yeah, it was it's like those
clones that the guy sells out of the back of his car like this smells just like cool water.
Yeah, it's like yeah, I burned my skin. You know, it was it was there were cereals that came
in big bags and they were total knockoffs and it cracked me up
And we would eat them and nobody can whatever and it was I don't think it was worse for you
Did I mention you guys that general mills is is going away from the whole artificial sweetener thing?
Did you know that?
That was they that just they ran a commercial. I'm not saying it's mine pump, but yeah
My pump by 2017 they they they predict that like a majority of all
all their cereals now will have pulled
the artificial coloring and flavoring out of there
and now they're trying to go all natural
and their cereals.
Non-GMO's next.
One small step.
They're gonna go non-GMO next.
Yeah, a little bit at a time.
The market, the market is speaking,
people are wanting these things.
So we'll see what happens.
I don't know.
Interesting.
Yep. There's a know. Interesting. Yep.
Is it me?
Oh shit.
Oh shit.
We call it a plan.
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How much weight should we do?
In other words, what's the max percentage for each program phase of maps?
Okay, so this question was a little longer.
He was asking when going from phase to phase, what percentage of my max should I use in
each phase?
Yeah, for example, you're saying phase one, I'm supposed to be doing, you know,
He's looking at it heavily from a metric standpoint, something that's measurable.
So here's the one problem I have with percentages of max.
I actually have a couple of problems with it.
Because percentages of max works very well
for very high level athletes.
For everybody else, it doesn't work too well
for a couple of reasons.
Number one, your max is gonna change,
especially if you're getting stronger.
So 90% of your max is all of a sudden you're gonna become 80% of reasons. Number one, your max is going to change, especially if you're getting stronger. So 90% of your max is all of a sudden, you're going to become 80% of it.
Once, especially once you go through something like phase one of red where strength gains come
fast and furious. And number two, two fast, two furious. Yeah. And number two,
it's not taking a lot of things into account, how you feel, the way you slept the night before, your diet,
your nutrition, I could go into a workout wanting to lift, you know, 70% of my max, and I'm supposed
to hit 12 reps or whatever, but that 70% feels more like 80% and 12 reps now is going to fatigue when
I'm not trying to go to complete fatigue. I'm trying to stop a couple of reps short. This is why
there's a subjective
part of working out that you just can't remove. You just can't take that subjective part out. Unfortunately, it requires that you have a good connection
to how you feel and that you're okay adjusting the weight up or down based on how
you feel. This is why I think it's silly that people even debate this. I find
I when you know, it's really not measurable in my opinion. It's not why I think it's silly that people even debate this. I find I when you know
it's really not measurable in my opinion. It's not it's it's so like Sal saying there's so many things
uh I've never done this. I've never actually measured out my percentage my maximum percentage and
base my program around it and and just simply because like you said that it changes all the time
many times I go to the gym thinking that you know I'm gonna be able to get after a certain weight and it's just it's not there. I'm still recovering from something else
or I'm battling something. Yeah. Or, you know, which is always a nice one. You feel fucking way
stronger than what you would plan. And so then maybe you can increase more. So, you know, I always
like to use our, you know, the rep going to failure like, okay, I'm trying to, if I'm following maps, the phase one,
and we're in that three to five rep range, right?
You're in the really low rep range,
then I always wanna be able to get at least one or two more
out, so I'm stopping knowing I could have squeezed one
or two more.
Yeah, you don't go to failure.
Yeah, so I'm never going,
and I'm gonna push whatever weight I can,
I'm gonna go up as high as I can with that in mind.
So if that means today, I get under there and, you know, 365 is feeling pretty light.
And I'm repping out three to five reps.
No problem.
Maybe I will, maybe I'll go up to 405 and see if I can still get, you know, a single or
double out of there and fill with a little bit of gas still in the tank.
Or the reverse, I go in,
planning on lifting 365 for three or five reps,
and I get under the first set,
and it's like a struggle to get,
I mean, I basically go to failure just to get to three,
I'm gonna back off the weight a little bit.
So, well, I think too, as far as discipline is concerned,
like if you can wait till more towards the end of your phase
to really exert more effort into the list,
what a great point.
That would be ideal because then we can change it up
and then get into the next phase while recovering from that.
Like, because you're gonna overexert yourself.
You don't wanna keep going along that path
when you're in that phase.
That's a great point because it's usually,
it should be the end of each phase where you're pushing
yourself the hardest because you know your body at that
point within the parameters of that phase.
I'm hitting maxes that I'm breaking,
you know, I'm breaking, you know, previous numbers.
So by the second or third week, I'm lifting much heavier.
But, you know, really your target should be the rep range. That's the second or third week, I'm lifting much heavier, but really,
your target should be the rep range.
That's the target.
Look at your rep range.
Look at what, and the intensity that Adam was talking about.
I know that I need to be able to stop my set
about one or two reps short of failure.
What that means is literally, I know I can squeeze out
one or two more reps, and then I won't be able to do anymore.
That's gonna take a little bit of work on your part
in terms of feeling what that feels like.
That means you may hit failure sometimes
before you get used to it.
But once I get to that point and I understand that,
now all I'm doing is I'm aiming for that rep range.
So if I know I'm trying to get six reps
in reality I'm trying to hit a weight
that I can do for seven or eight reps to failure.
And so if I do six reps I'm like, yeah, right, I could do like four more reps. I'm trying to hit a weight that I can do for seven or eight reps to failure.
And so if I do six reps, I'm like, yeah, right,
I could do like four more reps.
I'm adding weight.
This is both sides to that too.
Like, that's why I mentioned the discipline aspect
of it in the beginning,
because you're gonna have days like Adam mentioned
where you feel like really strong.
And it's gonna motivate you to lift heavier weights
or do more reps when in fact, you should probably hold out
and keep building up that frequency
and discipline your body to respond properly first.
Absolutely.
And it goes without saying that will give you better results
than almost anything else.
If you can be disciplined enough to listen to your body
to go into the gym, get under a weight, know that you need to go lighter, know that you need to go heavier, aim for that
target rep range and not worry about percentages of max.
This is what happens.
This is what I've seen over and over again when people go in and they say, okay, today I'm
lifting 85% of my max, so I'm doing 245 pounds on the deadlift.
If that 245 is too hard, they end up sticking to it anyway because that's their
number. And then they end up going to failure every time or going short of the reps because they
failed before it. And all they've done is themselves a disservice. They've actually slowed their
progress down. They've actually reduced the amount of results that they can get from that program
because they were so rigid on that percentage, that number. So you have to, you have to listen to how you feel
and base it off that.
And then if you're doing one of our programs,
aim for that rep range.
And as long as you stay within that rep range,
you are targeting the type of adaptation
that we're telling you to target within the program.
Well, I feel like that's why there is a range, right?
There's a range in the phase, you know,
first, your first phase, it's that. It's one to five, I think, one, you can even do singles. Yeah. So it gives you that
range that, you know, you don't, if you're doing singles, you really should have enough in the tank
for a double or even possibly a triple, right? So you need to know that that you're not, when it's,
when it's one to five, it doesn't mean like you are maxing out every single time. You want to be
able to have some, some left in the tank for sure.
And if you're getting five every set,
then you probably should have increased your weight a little bit
to where you're struggling to get five.
One of the most effective things that I ever did years ago
in terms of building my strength was I learned how to utilize
singles properly.
Singles are sets of one rep.
And in the past, because this must have been about,
I don't know, I probably really learned this properly
for myself about maybe eight years ago, seven years ago.
Up until then, if I did a single, it was a max,
like I'm going out to max.
I learned about seven or eight years ago
that if I took a weight that I could do one for,
but I know I could do three or four
and doing lots of sets of that. So I'm just gonna get under and do one four, but I know I could do three or four and doing lots of sets of that.
So I'm just gonna get under and do one and then rest
and then do another set of that.
And I did like six sets of that.
So I'm doing six sets of slots where I'm just doing one rep.
Man, you wanna talk about strength gains.
The following week I come back, I could add five
to 15 pounds to the bar.
I mean, literally, it'll blow you away
at how fast those strength gains come when you can utilize singles properly in that fashion. You will get strong
very quickly, but it will end very quickly as well, which is why we face things like that
for usually three weeks at a time.
Ginger Bergey is asking about...
Must be your Justin's cousin. Yeah. Ginger.
Ginger. Ginger's. Oh, you guys were transparent.
Ginger burgui has a 15 year old son who wants to take
creatine. What are your thoughts on that?
Well, she at the seminar, she was at the seminar.
That's what I said, right? Yeah, she said she was there and talked
about creatine. We talked a lot about creatine.
Somebody asked what was in our cupboards and everybody went on
talking about what there was. And I think the one common one,
we all would would use or take would be 18 right.
Crating is easily amongst all the ergogenic aids out there among all the supplements that are
purported to improve athletic performance or build muscle or burn body fat. Crating is by far
the most studied. There are literally hundreds of well-made studies done
on creatine, many of them done on athletic performance
and muscle building, and also many of them done
on the health benefits of creatine.
It was about, I'd say about 15 years ago,
or 10 years ago, where they started to study
the health benefits of creatine,
and they found a few different things
Creatines got some antioxidant properties
creatine benefits people with
Heart disease people who've had previous strokes
Improves cognitive function especially in vegetarians and vegans
It reduces inflammatory markers
It it all kind of makes sense. Cratein is a, can be, is used to increase
or improve the amount of ATP that your cells will use. And ATP is one of the fundamental
energy molecules that cells use in the body. And that just muscle cells, but all cells. And so
Cratein just gives you more of that. So it's a very, very effective,
and it's been tested to be very, very safe.
However, we are talking about a 15 year old child
who I can pretty much guarantee you
has poor muscle control when it comes to lifting weights,
who I can guarantee you has low,
very, very little experience training properly,
who I can guarantee you has come nowhere near
his potential for building strength and muscle,
has come nowhere near working his potential
for a central nervous system in terms of how it adapts to weights.
Yes.
And what you're doing is you're going to give him,
if he did take creatine,
creatine will make him stronger because that's what it does.
You give it to anybody and if they respond well to it or if it doesn't give them stomach
issues, that's a side effects, a rare group of people will have, but let's say he takes
it and he feels fine.
He's going to get 5 to 15% stronger on creatine, very, very short period of time.
So now you have a kid who has very little experience working out, very little experience working
out properly, very poor muscle control because I have yet to meet a 15 year old who can lift weights like a
30 year old in terms of having the control with it because he's a growing kid. He's not
used to his body. So all you've done is increase his risk of injury. That's what's happened.
Well, you bring up a lot of points and I've been in boxed quite a few times about like
a similar question, but it was more training based.
I have a group of kids that are athletes that are 12 or 15 or somewhere around that range.
They're asking about load and should we add load to these lifts and what would you consider
a safe approach for this and all that kind of stuff?
My answer was always more skills training based.
So the biggest thing, I think the best impact you can have with these kids is to,
is to really design a program that is going to show them exactly what kind of skills
they need to accomplish like these major movements that are going to be the best for
them long term,
like your squats, your dead lifts.
You know, even if it's a power explosive movement, it's really all about the mechanics
and how the body is responding and firing properly.
And like Sal mentioned, the central nervous system, just getting everything more responsive.
Like that is like load is something that I think can wait.
You know, if you're gonna say anything,
load is something that, you know,
we can incrementally increase that
as our skill and our response increases.
Yeah, you wanna get really perfect
with your movements, but you talk about creatine,
one of the side effects of creatine,
there's a couple side effects you can get from creatine.
And it's pretty rare and they're pretty minor.
One of them is you might increase your risk of muscle cramp, and that's only because you've
increased the amount of intracellular fluid that the cells will hold, the muscles will
hold, and that can sometimes throw off electrolytes, but that's easy to remedy.
Here's another one that's a little more serious though.
There is a slight increase in muscle pulls
and in injuries when people take creating.
Now it's not because creating makes your muscles
more prone to injury and somehow makes them weaker
in that sense.
It's because creating gives you more power
and in a very quick period of time
and you have not yet acclimated to this extra strength
and power.
It's no different than me taking a car
and giving it nitrous.
The car is designed to have 200 horsepower.
It's got everything, you know,
everything in the engine is designed for 200 horsepower.
The shocks and the tires are designed for 200 horsepower.
And I'm gonna give it 300 horsepower
with nitrous all of a sudden.
It's going to, it's gonna stress those things
that were used to 200 horsepower.
Antibolic steroids does the same thing.
And so creatine can increase its salt.
Blow ahead.
It is.
And so when I train, like, even when I train older athletes in their 20s and 30s and
30s, and people who are more experienced, and they take creatine, I tell them, I'll
have like sprinters, for example, and I'll say, okay, creatine is going to make you
faster, but here's what I want you to do.
When you start taking Crateen,
don't go all out with your sprints
until you start getting used to this new strength,
and let your body acclimate to it
because your risk of injury goes up a little bit.
When you're talking about the 15 year old,
who already doesn't have great control of weights,
like I can pretty much guarantee,
Crateen isn't gonna, I mean,
will he get stronger, yeah,
but is he gonna benefit him in ways that are more positive than negatives? No. And then you also
want to consider this, the body synthesizes Crate team on its own. And I've never, I've
always suspected that taking Crate team may decrease your body's ability to synthesize
Crate team. I'm not, I'm not, I don't have anything to back this up, but
I don't know if that would be a good idea to give someone at that age just from, just
from that standpoint. If you want to necessarily give them something.
Jesus Christ. Now that we've scared you, there's death about
fucking giving your kid creatine and shit. Let me tell you, it's fucking okay, too. It's
like the, it's, here's the thing. And I don't know if I like the analogy of it being like a you
know nitrous in your car because it's it's not going to affect him that much he's not going to
he's not going to take creatine and be like holy shit I'm taking creatine no but he's going to get
stronger sure period sure and you know it's it's more from an energy-based standpoint
the risk the risk side effect thing is I I mean, it's very, very rare.
Any of the cases that Sal was talking about, I mean, if your son is really, really pressing
hard and wants to try it, I would just make him aware of it.
I make him listen to an episode like this where we talk about it and discuss the benefits
behind it and the importance of it and talking about how much more important it is for him
to focus on skill.
But if you got the money, it's not going to, and you don't mind.
It's, well, let me, let me ask you this.
If we look at the things that, if she, let's say she invested $40 on a jug of
creating, what are the other things she can invest that $40 on?
Well, yeah, no, I don't even weigh better.
100% there's, that's just it.
That's why I said, if you have the money, if you've got the money, it's not a big deal.
Your son really wants to try it.
All his football buddies are taking in doing it. And, you know, it's like, you know, he
wants to take creatine because his buddies are. And you just want to know if it's safe and okay.
Yeah, it's safe and okay. He's going to be okay. He's not going to, it's not going to hurt him.
But would I invest that way? Would I teach him? No, if we, all of us had a 15 year old kid
that wanted to take creatine, we wouldn't let him just because
we would teach him that I would put emphasis in these other areas first.
I also feel like it's like this rabbit hole.
I mean, I was a kid that started taking trouble with that.
Well, I know, and I see where you're going because that's how we all got introduced to supplements
and then you feel a little bit something from that.
So then you just go on in this, what's the next one and that you're chasing that feeling
that you got from that supplement.
And then you're going down that rabbit hole of taking the next supplement and
creatine is safe and it's been tested, but I can't say that for almost anything else that's out there.
And it's just this rabbit look, I started taking creatine, I think I was, I might have been 15 or 16 when I started taking it,
but I had a job, I made my own money, and my parents didn't know.
That's right about when I, I mean, the guy, I got we were taking you know jugs of cell tech
Yeah, that's in there. Yeah loading fate with lots of sugar and bullshit guys
It's you guys stop taking creatine. Do you guys cycle it on and off or have you taken it?
I haven't taken it a long time. Oh, yeah, I've cycle off and actually it doesn't sit well with my stomach anymore really
Yeah, I I've probably taken creatine almost non-stop since I was 16, 15, 16.
Well, I mean, I'm at it gone off here and there,
but I pretty much have never stopped.
Yeah, I haven't been there.
Yeah, I've been there.
Yeah, I'm very inconsistent with it.
I always like to supplement.
I eat a lot of red meat, and so I eat a lot of red meat.
I really don't focus on much of it.
I mean, you get a good steak.
You can get a good two to three grams of creatine in a day. So, I mean, there's a lot of, you can get a good two to three grams of of creatine in a day.
So, I mean, there's a lot of times where I eat two, two times a day that's red meat.
So I'm not, if I don't, then then I will be chasing my creatine.
Otherwise, I try and get it from whole natural foods.
A lot of people don't know that.
I'll say this to ginger burgui.
If you want your son, if your son wants to improve his strength and performance, honestly, and I'm not just
saying this because this is what we offer, get your son started on maps and a ball, maps
red.
Having a start and pre-phase, having stick to pre-phase, the pre-phase section for a few
months, and then have him move through the phases, and he will blow his friends away.
They'll take creatine, they'll be doing their stupid workouts, he will blow them the
fuck away just from doing proper programs. Well, that's what we would do, right? If we, you know, that's why I
said that. I think when you're answering a question like that, I want to make sure that we're clear
that it's safe. Your son will be okay. It's not worth because I'm picturing in my head like this,
this boy who's got all his buddies that, you know, play sports and they're all taking creatine and
here's this mom who's concerned, you know, what is this shit that my son wants to take and all these kids are taking
It's over the count. We also talked about it. We also talked about it the seminar
I think that's and we talked about the benefits of it
But of course our audience was a bunch of adults. Yeah, so I you know, I think maybe I think just making her wear that it's totally okay
For him to do it would it be the order of what we would do? No, definitely not
Yeah, supplements are always the last last thing that we we would ever introduce. That's any client, whether
you're 15 or 45, that would, I would still, I would still treat it the same way. And it's
just, it's more obvious with what Sal was saying that at that age, more than likely his, his
his muscle, his mind muscle connection just isn't there yet is. You guys, if you guys
have trained 15 year olds before, yeah. Yeah. Yeah so and here's it and here's the thing their control is
horrible the the weights move all over the place is very difficult to get that
proper control so you do that a lot but here's the other thing with a 15 year old
like your boy is about to and he's in the midst of a hormone cascade avalanche. A motion is coming. Of natural.
All over his body.
Everywhere.
Natural anabolic steroids.
Like your boy is going to have the testosterone level
of a full grown.
He's pissed off.
And like just ragingly bonered.
Yeah.
And so he's going to have like all these natural things working for him in his body
That are gonna direct him to build muscle like it's crazy. He doesn't have to lift weights
You can take a 15 year old boy not having lift weights and he'll just gain muscle
Oh, his body wants to so if you lay if he lifts weights properly. Yeah on top of that. You're right. Oh 15 year olds get strong
super responsive 100%
Mark Wohl's is asking your thoughts on P.D.'s in the UFC.
And why else would someone use estrogen blockers?
Is this because John Jones got busted?
Yeah, pop fresh, estrogen blockers.
Yeah, was he?
Yeah.
What was it that he got busted for?
I think it was clomin.
Was it clomin?
I think so.
Really?
We need to figure that out.
Cause I'll be very interested.
Google.
All right.
Google is what it was.
I know it was.
I know it was something when you come off.
It was clomapheme.
It was either clomid or Novodex or something.
Are you sure it wasn't a remadex or something like that?
I don't think it was a remadex, but I mean, all of the above are your post-ciple.
Yeah, but they all work differently.
And so I don't know.
They all work differently, but they're all used the same way as far as why somebody
would use that in the UFC. They're using that to,
to get their hormonal levels back to, back to normal. So,
I mean, does this identify that like potentially he was on 100%
there's no other, that I think that's why yeah, like, why
else would you do that as like a post cycle? You had to be on a
cycle. So this is, this is normally, that's why I want to know,
because this is what this is what normally happens with sports and steroids is, you know,
they, you're not going to get tested in the off season, right? So a lot of these guys and
the off season are, you know, they're using whatever shit they can. And then when they know
that even there's a potential of them, let's let's resolve. Okay. So let's resolve is in a
room. It is inhibitor. So that's different. It's very strong. It's a blocker. Yeah, so let's resolve is an aromateus inhibitor. So that's different than...
It's very strong.
It's a blocker.
Yeah, so there's, I wanted to know because,
so there's different categories of drugs
that athletes will use to mitigate
or, you know, negate the effects of estrogen.
There's the category of substances that are known
as selective estrogen receptor modulators
or serums for short.
These are just chemicals that block onto the estrogen receptor and block the receptors
from estrogen that might be in your body.
Then there are what are called aromatase inhibitors, which prevent your body's ability to make
estrogen, because men, believe it it or not also make some estrogen.
And if you have high testosterone levels from exogenous testosterone, so if you're taking
steroids, a lot of these guys will take an aerobotase inhibitor because it prevents
all the super high levels of testosterone from getting converted to elevated levels of
estrogen.
So what this Adam was saying is,
I mean, this, basically he got caught for something
that stays in the body longer
because that's let results, the metabolites
stay in the system longer than testosterone.
Like he could take high doses of testosterone,
come off of them and go into the test
and then they won't detect it,
but they'll detect the estrogen blockers
that he was using.
But you don't use these drugs for performance enhancement.
Kill your sex drive completely, especially let's resolve.
I mean, that's like the strong,
then let's row and aromatics are two of the strongest,
you know, blockers and you don't want to take those.
I mean, you're not gonna get killed.
You're sex drive and it's not.
If you took them by themselves and it wasn't part
of an anabolic steroid cycle,
you would get no benefit.
Yeah, and especially let's let's
let's always probably normally guys that use that,
they were already starting to get converted.
You normally would use a use something like
no but X during your cycle to prevent it from happening.
Maybe you're an idiot and you were, or you were lazy and you allowed
estrogen to start to build up and you start to get what it called,
bitch tits or you start to get,
I know,
massed you.
Yes.
Scientifically speaking.
Yeah.
So when, uh,
gyno mass,
you start to get,
which is just that the breast tissue, right?
It starts to build up.
You almost, you like a bitch,
it a guy starts to produce like a female breast from estrogen levels, uh,
elevates. So I, when this starts to happen, normally they freak out and they go
running, get something like let's go. And it is very strong. It does stay in
your system for a long time. So it was probably pretty obvious that he was
running some sort of gear. He did was doing enough of it that he was starting
to convert into estrogen. And then after he came off the cycle, he had to run this let's row and that hung around long enough.
Dude, doesn't this seem like the testing has gotten way more
sophisticated.
They've been catching everybody.
Well, I think UFC has some of the strong,
have the, like, they're ahead of all this stuff.
I commend the UFC for not only testing their athletes
very, very thoroughly, but outing
them publicly because I don't see other sports organizations making quite as big of a deal
with their athletes.
Because it's not just the UFC that's using these drugs, it's the NFL and NBA, it's the
MLB and NHL.
All these professional athletes will do everything they can to get that extra edge,
especially when you're paying these people millions of dollars.
I think when you're at that level,
and you have that much on the line,
and you've already been busted using cocaine,
and you've already made these huge mistakes,
like what a dumb, like God, damn it, it makes me so mad,
especially someone who tells you,
like he just will keep making poor decisions.
He's just, he's such a talented, I mean,
one of the, he's got to be one of the most so-
So-
That's right, because you want, he just want to watch him fight. Yeah.
That's it. Yeah. I just want to watch him fight.
Here's the thing with, with the UFC too,
you're talking about a sport where people's lives are in danger.
You are trying to hurt each other
and you're fighting.
And you wanna talk about unfair and advantage in sports.
Like this is a dangerous, unfair advantage.
I'm telling you guys this, mark my words.
I hope this never happens,
but if there's ever a death in MMA,
which the risk is real,
just like there was
unboxing, and let's say somebody gets enough, you know, they do a fight, one guy knocks
someone out, they end up dying, the guy that knocked him out tests positive for anabolic
steroids, you will see a lawsuit, you will see a lawsuit on the person who took the steroids
and that person will not just lose money, but they will go to jail.
Well, because they broke the rules and because they can make the case
that you took those steroids and you put me,
you put my life at risk for doing so.
So they're doing something completely different
or at a higher risk or something worse
than even other sports because they're fighting.
Yeah, we'll talk about that.
I mean, because of the fact that somebody is on steroids,
like in that sort of a situation where your recovery goes up exponentially, right?
And it's especially with MMA being so extreme on the end of max exertion in multiple
different ways.
And also like you have somebody with the strength added component to that over somebody at the
same body weight, you know, it is a massive advantage.
It's, I'll tell you what, you look at these sports and you look at these athletes and you watch
them over time and then, you know, you're talking about an elite athlete just to be in this organization
and all of a sudden, you know, two years later, oh, you know, so and so, you know, professional
athlete put on 15 pounds of muscle all of a sudden. I always raise an eyebrow because I'm like,
okay, I'm pretty sure you didn't all of a sudden. I always raise an eyebrow. I'm like, okay, I'm pretty sure you did all of a sudden
start lifting weights properly.
You're already at a super early hour.
You've never lifted weights before.
I mean, how does that work?
I see that all the time.
It's pretty crazy.
Remember when Pride, when UFC kind of absorbed Pride
for Japan, and then those fighters came over to UFC?
Oh my God, Pride was awesome.
Those guys all of a sudden looked.
They looked like a tiny yeah.
Yeah.
Evanderlei Silva.
He looks like an amateur body boy.
We've argued though back and forth before like how much of an I think the recovery part
is probably the biggest advantage that you get.
Yeah, that's why I brought that one.
Yeah, I think I think that's number one because honestly the the strength and size of course
you build strength,
but then you also lose mobility, right? So the bigger you get because of steroids, the less
mobile that you're going to lose speed. And speed is not going to improve your skill, really.
Yes. Speed and mobility, I would, I would like to, I mean, I would argue that that's probably
two of the most important attributes for a fighter is speed and mobility and to
add a bunch of size from steroids, you would lose that.
So that's where the speed of sport guy got popular was because like he he pretty much eliminated
a lot of the heavy weight lifting because of the fact that he's trying to mobilize them
more and work on this snap, this quickness, the speed, as the high point of what the skill set
that they need going into a fight along with endurance.
Yeah, I think there's a lot more finesse
that goes into giving an athlete,
Annabelle X Teroids, who is in a weight class.
Yeah, for sure.
You know, if you're playing football,
the exact is a weight class issue.
Yeah, if you're playing football,
then you know, you can play the size game
depending on your position. Yeah
I'm just still finessed but whatever
But with a with a sport like MMA where I need to fight at 190 pounds
I have to stay within 190 so it's not like I can go in there and put on tons of weight what I can do is come in
leaner with a little more muscle
And I can come in stronger at that weight
But if I if I'm reckless and I'm like oh cool. I'm gonna take steroids so I can move in stronger at that weight. But if I'm reckless and I'm like,
oh cool, I'm gonna take steroids so I can move up one or two weight classes. And now
I'm fighting a dude that's naturally at that weight. I've actually not really given myself
an advantage.
Well, on that, and then as far as like having to go through the cutting process, wouldn't
you think that somebody like having more strength infused like going through that process
with, and a ballically enhanced situation would have the advantage because.
Of course.
Yeah.
So like you physically feel weaker when you're cutting down that.
Absolutely.
I mean, those are the big benefits of those are the type of things that like I think what
most people translate they think, you know steroids and the muscle and strength, but really
that's not what's going gonna really help a fighter.
It's the recovery, it's the sustainability.
The ability is the same.
Why they're cutting hard and aggressively,
cutting calories and running,
they're holding on to muscle and lean body mass.
So when they come down,
they're primarily cutting fat and they're coming in.
And just the ability to train more.
Yeah, all of a sudden I could do three workouts a day
instead of two.
I can learn
more techniques and drill myself more because I can recover. That's a huge advantage.
Nathan Lang is asking, what is the best approach to working on weak body parts? For example,
he's on maps red and wants to build lats. Two things things. Yeah, this is what black was built.
Yeah, I mean, both red and black have a tool in them
that allows you to focus on weaker body parts.
But black maps aesthetic.
It's specifically designed to be able to bring up
lagging body parts.
Whereas maps and a ballic has what
are called trigger sessions.
Yeah, more overall strength.
Yeah, really to just send this overall muscle building
signal to the whole body.
Two things, one, prioritize the weak body parts,
and two, increase the frequency and volume
for those body parts.
Those are the two things you can do
that will really make the physical.
Which is what we naturally do in black.
That's what we program designed it that way.
The way black is designed is you literally would say,
lats is my focus.
So like right now, you're familiar with red
because you own it and you're going through it.
You have your foundational days
and then you have what are called trigger days.
And in maps black instead of trigger days,
you have what are called focus days
and your focused days are focused on whatever lagging
body part you want to work on. So if LATS was one of those and maybe you had one other that you
would pick and you would be focusing on those other days on those specific and basically what we've
programmed in there, what we've done, we've taken the thinking out for somebody else that's trying
to develop that lagging body part. But really what we've done is we've increased frequency and we've
increased volume knowing that that's going to develop that lagging body part. but really what we've done is we've increased frequency and we've increased volume
knowing that that's going to develop that lagging body part. So that's the real big difference. And
you know if you if you were going to try and do it with the red, I think the the advice would be to you know put your center your your foot or your trigger sessions around
lats and and and more back exercises on your trigger days, so it's getting a little more frequency,
but your real bang for your buck
is gonna be when you get into black.
And we still, even with someone that has lagging body parts,
we still recommend them following red accordingly,
because those things are gonna,
I mean, getting good at deadlifting
is going to bring your lads up.
It's going to build your back, it's 100%.
So, building that solid foundation for those core lifts
is super important and to follow red.
And then if you really want to continue on that direction
and you feel like those lats are still lagging
after you've completed red, then black is the direction.
Yeah, and I want to make sure we give information
to people who aren't following our programs
because we have a lot of listeners who do their own workouts
and maybe do a body parts split and really
Add volume so add an extra exercise for that body part and add frequency
Frequency is the best God that is that is the one
Component that you can utilize and you can have a blast with and it will give you
Tremendous results. So even if you don't add necessarily, let's say today's back date,
let's say I follow a body parts law,
even though we don't recommend it or whatever,
you wanna do split fine.
Today's back day and I normally do three exercises.
Do your three exercises for back, have your back workout,
but then on your next day, your chest day
or your shoulder day or whatever,
at the end of it, throwing another back exercise.
Don't do it super hard, You're not trying to go super intense
like you did on your back day,
but just throwing a movement that'll give you a good pump,
like a machine row or a pull down
or maybe a straight arm pull down where you isolate the lats.
And throwing that frequency,
throwing in that frequency will give you way better response
than just necessarily adding volume all in the same day.
So, if you can walk away from this episode with that with one idea for working on a weak body part,
it's worked them out more frequently, not necessarily longer in the same workout,
or not necessarily harder, if that makes any sense.
Absolutely.
Corinne Siara is asking, what are your signs?
Here's your sign.
Hey, what's your sign? Here's your sign. Signs signs everywhere.
I'm rocking a material brick. My man. Do this. Don't do that. Catch you.
Reassign. Damn. Damn it. We didn't harmonize at all. No, I knew though if I started singing that just
and what's saying, but I did not anticipate. That's all it takes. Adam, you get confident lately with your singing. Yeah, you know, that was a...
Is someone telling you that you sing good?
No, last time.
Last time you got...
No, I talked to them.
You didn't say you got better.
Lessons are playing off a little bit.
Yeah.
Lessons off.
All right.
Oh my God.
You know, she said on there that she knew I was a Scorpio.
Am I that much of a giveaway or what?
Is it that obvious?
What is that?
Yeah.
Scientists astrological.
I love smart.
I love definitions.
It's my good looking confident.
These are all scorpions.
I love this.
I love the science of arbitrary places of the stars
and the sky.
It reminds me a lot of like ancient alien.
I love it.
I love it.
I love it.
So you guys want to know something trippy?
So I'm gonna-
I know I make fun of this shit all time,
but this is interesting.
Some studies came out a few years ago that found
that children born or conceived or they were in utero
at certain times of the year did in fact,
were more likely to have certain traits.
And they link it to sun exposure,
like if you're born lunar patterns.
No, no, that's tough.
It was sun exposure, it was the food that they were exposed to.
And if you think about this,
cause astrology or the zodiac, by the way,
is for those you're listening,
the, if it's not the old, it's one of the old oldest
religions in the world, if not the oldest.
I think it predates all other religions,
where they study the dark.
The studies are like harvests and everything around it.
So think about it this way.
If you're a human back then, which is thousands of years ago, you ate seasonally.
So sun comes out, certain foods grow.
You're going to eat a lot of those.
It's colder.
You're going to eat more of these types of foods.
You're going to get more sun exposure, less sun exposure, more exposure to cold, more
exposure to heat, different exposure to different,
maybe bacteria viruses.
Maybe there might be some truth to say that if a child
is in utero during particular times of the year,
that it may develop some different traits,
either health, you know, maybe more of a propensity
for certain health issues or certain health traits
or whatever.
Whatever the mother is consuming and they expose to.
Yeah.
Yeah. I think it's a good argument
It's a it's so some studies came out to support that a little bit so when I read that I said oh
I wonder if there's a little bit of a little nugget of true winter babies all day. Yeah, maybe so
So what are you guys do you guys know your signs heat what's your sign? Of course I know my sign. What is it?
I'm an Aquarius 100 percent. Oh, it's I'm too. I'm a query. You guys are both Aquarius
This is the age of Aquaria
When's your when's your birthday the 26th January? Oh, okay, see I didn't know I don't know you're a query
That's weird bro. Doug your sad right connected at the dick. What do you do? What do you do? I'm cancer? Oh you are
Oh, are you in July? That explains so much. Why could a Scorpio and cancer that's like the best mix is it really?
So you say that's why he's spinner. That's why Doug and I work so well. Why? Because Scorpio and Cancer, that's like the best mix. Is it really? Yeah.
So you're saying that's why he's spinner.
That's why Doug and I work so well together.
Really?
Yeah.
So what is it about?
So what are the traits of...
Oh, let's talk about the traits.
What are the traits of Scorpio?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I don't even know this.
We can turn on a dime.
We have a very vindictive personality.
So if you scorn a Scorpio, they typically sting back.
We are extremely loyal.
And, you know, so if we like to nest,
so I like my routine.
I don't like to go outside of my routine.
I like my comfort zone, don't like to go outside of my routine. I like my comfort zone my home my house very home bodies
extremely sexual passionate
Incredible in bed and typically large large penises
Blanketed that might add so here's what it says. So here's I just went online
Here's the positive traits of a Scorpio focused brave
balanced faithful ambitious intuitive. Here's the negative traits jealous
secretive resentful manipulative interesting. I'm gonna
I mean, I don't know.
Go to the court. Go look at cancer. Cancer is like, that was a
curious. No, that was Scorpio. Scorpio Scorpio. Yeah, you know what I should do
I should fuck it fucked up. I should just read the traits and we guess. Oh, I know I know what you're
I know what is I don't know why you have to read ours. I don't know. All right, so you're a water sign right here's the
Yeah, no air
I don't know I think I think you're what I know the water bearer, but I think we're in a sign
Okay, so cancer traits to tenacious, highly imaginative,
managing to do, I can't talk.
It was a lot.
Exactly, loyal, emotional, sympathetic, persuasive.
Your weakness is moody, pessimistic,
suspicious, manipulative, and insecure.
Fuck, Justin, they're both manipulative.
Oh my God, he knew it.
These fuck, are you guys, are you guys,
Doug and I are in charge of the count.
I know, I just feel the strings.
I just say I might have to team up with you.
Hey, it's been a rough morning.
I have to cut your guys to salaries this month.
All right, Aquarius traits, let's see here.
I don't know why I missed you.
Now, here's what it says in Aquarius.
Of all the trade, of all the zodiac signs,
they are the best ones.
Yeah, so let me just continue confirmed.
Positive traits of Aquarius, truthfulness,
just, curious, affectionate,
frank and imaginative, definitely imaginative.
I would definitely say amongst the four of us,
me and Justin are the most imaginative.
We come up with the most, we do.
I could pretty much say all those are correct.
It's true.
Here's the negative qualities.
Unpredictable, detached.
We have a tendency to go off track and inefficient.
Mm.
I think that last one can be.
Thank God you have a scorpion and a cancer here.
Here's weird.
What are the, here are the health concerns of aquariums.
We're prone to disorders of the nerves. So like insomnia, restlessness,
you had your little heart-papetation thing.
What?
Remember that when you had your thing with your,
your adrenal glands?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, adrenal glands.
Oh my God.
So here's what happens when people read,
Oh my God, it's true, everything.
It's fucking true.
Should we be dating?
So here's a, here's kind of a cool fact
that I have the book that actually shows you all your,
like your pairs and matches and relationships
you should stay away from, like as far as signs.
Who am I supposed to be?
Do you know that Scorpio does not mix very well with hardly any other signs, except for
cancer and Aquarius?
There's only like three signs and those are actually the two.
Really?
Yeah.
What's October?
I'm late.
I'm late to the gangbang.
I feel like we're going to have a, yeah, a what? Libra. Still Libra. I'm late to the gangbing. I feel like we're gonna have a, yeah, a what?
Libra.
Still Libra.
Yeah.
Libra goes all well, very late is goes in the Scorpio.
So the last, that, she Scorpio.
Yeah, last like three days, last, I think to the 20, I think October 25th.
No, you got it wrong, dude.
I'm online right now.
What is it?
October 20th?
No, not that, but, uh, so the compatible signs with Scorpio are Cancer, Virgo, Capricorn
and Pisces. Oh, the least compatible signs. Oh, you maybe, Virgo, Capricorn, and Pisces.
The least compatible signs.
Oh, you maybe are the least,
three, the least.
Are Leo and Aquarius.
Yes.
Wow.
Doug and I get along just fine.
Yeah, well, let me look at my,
let me see what Aquarius combines with.
Yeah.
I want to see what that is.
Let's see, the most,
we are the most compatible with Aries Gemini Libra
in Sagittarius.
The least compatible for us are Taurus and Scorpio, obviously.
Interesting.
So here's a little science behind the zodiac.
Do you notice what I did there?
I read all the traits and you immediately connected it to things that made it make sense
because you want to belong.
It's just like your horoscope, huh?
It's the same, what do you mean?
It's the same.
Oh, like when it tells you, yeah, yeah.
Like today, you're gonna have.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You're like, oh shit.
Yeah, you're gonna have a challenging event.
Like, every day you have a fucking challenge event.
Yeah, yeah.
Like, oh my God, I totally connected.
I, with I should have done it, I should have read like a,
a horoscope.
I think we would have figured it out.
And said, whose horoscope is this?
Yeah, I think we would have figured it out.
Yeah, no, I think we would have figured it out.
Yeah, whatever.
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