Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 343: Q&A- Increasing Squat Depth, Fasting Mistakes, Reducing Intensity for Gains & MORE
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When I think about you, I hear myself.
I see myself.
Do you guys remember that song?
Yeah.
Is that? I touched myself. I touched myself. Remember that remember that song? Yeah, I touched myself
Fuck it was some what was the girls name? I don't know. I thought you're gonna pull me into that trap
No
That would be an Adam that's an attitude. I wouldn't say
What was the name of the world?
Singer. There's no one. What was the name of the girl? Look up on YouTube. I touch myself.
Touch my son. That song was a big fucking deal.
Oh, you know, man, it's definitely an 80 song.
Because everybody knows 90s. It was 90s early 90s. But this song was, this was a big
1990. It was recorded. What a big deal that was when it came out. Everybody freaked out.
And this was, it's a 1990, so it's probably released 91.
Let's see how old was I.
I was born in 79, so I was like 12, 13 when the song came out.
So it was right in the beginning of my masturbatory experiences.
It was like perfect timing, right?
Oh.
When the music came out.
I'll read you at them at that time.
10, 11.
Well, since you fucked up and said 12 or 13
when it was really 11, no, no, no, nine,
I'm sure the song came out and I got popular, like,
I have a 17, 79 to 90 was 11 years.
But that's when it was recorded.
I don't think it would probably have come out.
You know, like popular 91.
When they say it's released at 90,
you think it means it's recorded.
Didn't say release it says recorded.
Oh, so you think they waited a year to release it?
Yeah, so here we go.
It reached number four in the US billboard
on the March of 1991.
So yeah, it was 12.
So that's right, right when I discovered things.
How to do you are subscribing?
You were doing that at 12? Probably, yeah. You weren't. No, I think it took me till about 13 14. I was a late bloomer. Yeah, no, I'm not.
I didn't know what to do with it. Yeah, well, you guys are both weird. I was it's different, but when we grew up between 12 and 15,
because we didn't have the,
I mean, the internet was just still coming, right?
Like it was just starting to arrive, right?
No, the 13, nobody was on the internet at 13.
Well, that's what I mean.
That's what I'm saying.
It's just coming to, if not,
it's not even around really.
Yeah, but I don't think so.
I don't think the internet's necessarily.
No, no, no, no, no.
What I'm getting at with this is that, you know, at that age,
I still was uncertain if that was okay.
If it was okay for me to be doing that or not doing that.
Like you don't know, like that at 12 years old.
Yeah, see, I'm more of a rebel, I could care less.
I was just like, fuck it.
How? Who taught you?
Did you just, nobody taught me?
You just instigated.
You just had instigated my, my neighbor.
Yeah.
What do you mean you don't need to learn?
Let me put this way.
Oh, Johnny.
If you took a bunch of humans, babies,
and you put them on an island,
and then somehow fed them and let them grow up.
They would figure out how to have sex with each other.
Yeah.
Nobody needs to teach you shit.
You just do it.
Oh, this looks like a good place to put it.
Yeah, but 12 is a pretty early age to already be thinking about.
Yeah, but how do you know to keep tugging on it?
Huh? Do you know what I mean?
I don't see that.
I'd rather not keep.
I'd rather not go into detail about, you know, what happened.
I get because as a boy, I as a young boy, I remember.
I gotta keep going.
I remember the different concepts.
But see, for guys, it's easy.
It's like drinking beer too, you know?
But for guys, it's easy because you're constantly touching it
when you go pee.
It's not like a girl, like girls don't really, you know,
figure that out so much later. But guys, like, you gotta touch it when you go pee. It's not like a girl. Like girls don't really, you know, figure that out so much later.
But guys, like, you got to touch it just to go pee.
How would you know?
How would I know?
That girls take the, how do you know girls are matured sooner than boys.
You don't think they think about their, they've learned about their sexuality before you
do.
Uh, it gets a fact.
It's actually a fact that that boys, uh, will orgasm earlier in life than girls well.
Sometimes girls don't orgasm till much later.
Is that what fact, the Sal fact?
Bro, do I really need to like show you more?
Like this, how many times is it gonna happen?
Bro, if I become with the...
Here's why, because I know...
Cosmopolitan studies.
My listeners are thinking the exact same thing
that you know, right now that I am,
which is, I don't know, that sounds like a bunch of bullshit.
And I wanna hear the study.
And I wanna see if there's any holes in this fucking study here.
Cause we, okay, is it, you get that?
Ask me this.
I got the holes or answer me this riddle me this.
Sal.
Is it, is it, is it true or not true that women mature sooner than, than boys?
They do, but when it comes to, you know, knowing what feels good and touching yourself,
our, our sex organs are outside of our body. We're constantly touching them because we have to hold it to
pee it's there. A girl's organs, sex organs are kind of in her body, and they don't realize
it till much later, girl, women tend to, like, it's more difficult for them to have orgasm
at younger ages. They tend to sexual, you know, become more mature sexually
as they get older this way.
Women say that a woman doesn't hit her sexual peak
until much later because they don't learn their bodies
as quickly or as easily as boys do.
Okay, that's a fair argument, but I want to,
where's the study at?
It doesn't.
Yeah, it does.
It's logical.
Anyway, what do we do in anyway?
I don't know, man.
Is that what we're doing today?
It's really weird.
By the way, I want to make it clear to the listeners
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And not any other kind of professional.
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Yeah, sounds hot.
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That sounds struggling to get fit.
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Working out at 7am is tits. What was it before? It's tits, it Schaefer. And Justin Andrews. Working out at 7am is tits.
What was it before?
It's tits.
What were you doing before?
I've always worked out at around noon in the day.
And you like seven better?
Fucking love it.
I love it.
You know why?
Why?
Because I'm an animal, Adam.
Obviously.
No, because I wake up in the morning.
I wake up in the morning. I wake up in the morning.
So this is what I did this morning, right? woke up. Did my morning ritual, which is poop, then a drink outside blended
Camara with some MCT oil.
What's your thoughts on not to interrupt you, but I did.
Sorry. What's your thoughts on Matt?
It just made me think of something.
This was some of a thing.
I'm still trying to figure out what animal you are.
I've been meaning to ask you this and and you just reminded me of this question,
and I don't want to forget why,
because I think there's some definitely some people
that would want to, what's your thoughts on masturbation
before working out?
Before working out?
Yeah, because there's a lot of theories on it.
Sometimes I'm for it.
Here's sometimes I'm like, well, sometimes I really want to,
and I'm about to go work out on like,
I mean, should I not, and I should keep all this extra testosterone
right now or should I let it go?
I don't think I struggle with that sometimes.
I don't think so.
I understand, I'm coming from.
I don't think you lose any essence or anything like that
when you expel your, your sea image.
Why don't I feel like you're gonna sleep now?
Here's the only thing that I would,
now scientifically speaking, okay, so let's get serious.
The only thing you should avoid is masturbating while you're working out.
You don't want to do that because studies show.
I mean, what if that pomp though?
You're highly likely to get thrown in jail.
So other than that, jerk off to your heart's content.
Because I, buddy, is that you sent like, like, football?
What?
Was it about to get weird?
No, no.
Okay.
All right, guys, we're ready for this.
It was a private jam.
We got 10 minutes.
We're allowed to do it.
We were on it.
Justin, you didn't have anybody's that were like this in football,
that like leading up to a big game on Friday or Saturday.
They did just cranking it.
They decided not to masturbate all week.
Yeah.
I've heard that too.
And some, you never heard of it. This was like an old man with a flower. No, it's not. Yeah, no, I've heard that too. And some, you know, this was like an old
man with fire over shells.
No, it's not.
No, it's not.
It's not.
We know one of my friends was like a month
that I'm like, you're crazy.
A month.
That will come out of my eyes.
There you go.
So, so this is why I'm laughing.
I couldn't do it.
This is why I'm laughing,
because none of you guys ever got laid.
So you didn't say like,
hey, nobody have sex over the weekend.
Who's like, hey, guys, no jerking off.
Well, that's as good as it got.
Depends on how old we were.
So, so here's the thing.
If you don't, if you don't ejaculate or have sex
or masturbate whatever, you do get for a short period of time
testosterone does increase.
If you maintain that for too long,
and I don't know what the length of period is,
you can look this up, then testosterone starts to drop. But if you do that for too long, and I don't know what the length of the period is, you can look this up, then testosterone starts to drop.
But if you do hold off,
if you okay there, recharge, it's fucking guy.
If that one man is,
if it's a bone's game of a watching movie,
there's fucking chords all tangled around his ear.
So that was a really hard to fix.
It almost choked on something.
Yeah, no testosterone levels will increase in the short term, but decrease in the long
term.
Does that increase performance?
I don't know.
Here's what I know.
If I'm super horny, I'm probably going to, I don't know if my form is going to be as good
when I work out.
I'm definitely going to be angrier when I lift, but I don't know if my form is going to
be as good.
You know what I mean?
Angry, huh?
I thought maybe you'd have some good studies for us.
No, why?
I don't know.
I just figured you're the guy who knows that Captain Crunch has something to do with Frickin.
It wasn't Captain Crane.
Oh, it was.
No, Cornflakes.
It was Cornflakes.
I'm pretty sure the maker of a child cereal wasn't thinking the same thing as Dr. Kellogg
when he made Cornflakes.
I know.
My workouts in the morning are fucking amazing.
I'm working out with my girlfriend in the morning are fucking amazing. I'm working out with my
girlfriend in the morning and we're hitting just awesome shit. So today I did all kinds
of supersets the day before that we were doing kettlebell carries. Thanks Justin. Those
have been fabulous. Yeah. And I feel like my body is it's reaching another it's reaching
another level. I've never been this strong while this lean
and this light and this handsome.
It's never been this combination.
It's all at the same time, but I'm feeling really good,
but I had my camera blend that with MCT oil.
I've threw in some butter this morning
and some cinnamon had that and I just felt, man.
How are you drinking?
I'm calling you Uber Sal.
How are you drinking yours right now, Justin?
I'm doing it black with over ice.
Oh.
Yeah, which is nice refreshing and like super stimulating.
I like your cold.
Yeah.
I just like the cold because heat for me,
like any kind of hot drinks,
it's always been a relaxing.
Like totally.
Yeah, it's never like sparked my stimulus.
Like I know a lot of people are
different like my wife's completely different like she she can't stand drinking coffee cold and I'm
I love it for crazy for a long time I didn't either it took me a while to tramp but you know what I
to me it has to be really good coffee to taste cold yeah I feel like you can disguise hot coffee with
the creams and the things like that and it's for flavor. Flavor is really pop. Yeah, when you go cold, it's like,
if you drink some shitty coffee cold,
it's, to me, it's really obvious.
So what I used to do back in the day sometimes,
this is, so back in the day,
I would take a pre-workout powder,
which now we know is a complete waste of money.
But anyway, sometimes what I would do
is I would take my protein powder,
because some people do like to take protein powder
before the workout, is I'd blend protein powder with coffee, blend like to take protein powder before the workout.
Is I blend protein powder with coffee, blend it in a blender and drink that. That's pretty
fucking delicious too. I used to do that. So, let me get back, I want to know, because I want to
try this on ice. Do you literally fresh off of making a hot cup, pour it over ice, or do you do it,
can you probably? Yeah, I brew it. And then yeah, the night before I let it get sort of room temperature
and then I'll pour it over ice.
Sometimes I'll keep it in my refrigerator overnight.
Yeah, that's how it's easy to just grab it
and take off from the morning.
Okay.
If you want to be a real gangster,
then what you do is, if you want to be a review.
Okay, so this is what you do then.
You brew your coffee, you make ice cubes out of the coffee,
then you can put the ice cube, then you can pour it over those,
so you don't have water down coffee like a big pussy.
Oh, shit.
Yeah, sure.
Then you're getting coffee on top of coffee.
Mushroom stamp, you're right.
Boom, yeah.
I feel amazing.
I'll try that.
Yeah, I'm gonna try that.
Did you have anything this morning?
Oh, Kymar, I have that every morning now.
You do?
Yeah, that's my, but I've been doing it with,
I haven't had cream in my house, so I've been doing it with, I haven't had cream in my house,
so I've been doing it with my butter and coconut.
So I just do coconut oil and I just do butter.
And I'm, I know bulletproof calls for two and two,
I do just do one and one.
One tablespoon of peanut butter,
one tablespoon of coconut oil,
one tablespoon of peanut butter,
be weird.
And then I mix it in my magic bowl.
So I've been, so check this out.
So I've been, usually it's coconut oil for me,
but I've been using medium chain triglycerides
and I bought this one that is higher in,
I think it's acrylic acid.
I think that's the name of it, right?
It's the eight carbon molecule form of MCTs
that apparently gets converted to ketones
at a much higher rate.
So you're just gonna get more ketones from it.
So that's what the science says.
But then there's a side to me that likes natural best.
And coconut oil is natural.
MCT oil has to be derived from coconut oil,
but it's not natural.
You know what I'm saying?
So I think, I don't know, I don't know what I'm doing.
You know, I don't know how man.
You guys know what I like to experiment. You're flying off the rails. I like to do all kinds of weird things. No, I think I don't know. I don't know what I'm doing. You know, I don't know, man. You guys know what I like to, I like to experiment off the race.
I like to do all kinds of weird things.
No, I think that's good.
And I think it's good that you say that too, that you're just experimenting.
Because a lot of times these people, they hear something we're doing.
And it's like, that means we put our stamp of, oh, this is the best or do this.
It's not necessarily that a lot of times we're playing with things and trying stuff out.
And I know we're in the middle of trying out a newer supplement right now.
Well, so, so here's another little revelation I had this morning.
So after I worked out, obviously I showered over there because so the,
so little shout out, shout out to club sport down in the silver creek area.
That's way south. Really?
You're gonna plug like that. You know why?
They got a, they have an awesome gym with they didn't give fuck us anything for free, bro.
I'm not, I'm not in to give it.
They, I'll tell you why.
Fuck you, it's $108.
You got it.
You heard that, man.
My membership's $108.
I don't care.
It's a reason.
Rub my back or something.
It's a very easy to tell them about Mariah.
That's what I was just gonna say.
Thank you, Jessica.
I'm glad that you're nice, like I am.
Damn it.
Mariah is the girl that signed a sub,
signed up with her, but anyhow,
great fucking place to work out. I've never been a member of a gym like this. That's is a girl that signed a sub, signed up with her, but anyhow, great fucking place to work out.
I've never been a member of a gym like this,
that's like a country club, like,
they've got towels and fucking lotions and mouthwash
and Q-tips and ball powder.
You don't need anything, you go in there, you shower.
I've been in a long time.
It's all there for you.
So anyway, I had a little revelation.
I have fully made the transition.
I am fully transitioned to an old man now, fully, 100%.
100%.
I see why they walk around just blah.
I walk around, I don't care.
I totally, bro.
I'm-
Balls hanging low.
I'm that guy, and I'm that guy now.
I walked around naked, didn't give a shit,
shit flopping around, walked over,
fucking brush my teeth a little bit,
like why, why I put anything on them?
I'm just gonna be in the sauna.
So two things happened.
One, a guy comes in with his kid,
who's like some 14 year old kid.
Poor fucking kid looks at me and it looks down immediately
and I'm like, I just ruined his fucking day.
He just saw the wizard, yeah, that's scared.
I just made him realize that some of us come into large.
But here's the other thing. So, what does large. But, but here's the other thing.
So, Eddie, why does the years look like that?
Here's the other thing.
So, I'm fucking just,
I'm just walking around naked, like, yeah, right?
And then I'm starting to get dressed.
This Indian dude comes up to me.
Obviously, he looks like a computer engineer,
just because I'm being racist.
Oh, yeah, he's stereotyped.
I like that.
But no, but he had an accent.
It looks like a computer engineer.
Hey, he's new.
He's getting it math.
He's totally new.
I don't know how you put that together.
No, I'll put it.
No, no, no.
He probably isn't.
No, no, no, no.
Come on, it's pissed off.
Oh, my God. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, comes up to me goes, hey, man I'm like yeah, and he goes you have fantastic body
I'm like wow
Thank you, and that's awkward
That's pretty that's pretty I don't think he was gay. I'm pretty sure he wasn't but that's a compliment
Do you have a towel on he had his underwars on oh he did yeah, he had his underwars on and his but he's like man
You have fantastic buddy. I said it.
Well, fantastic, buddy. Of like, thank you very much. Is underwear is the right way or underwear?
I always say underwear is it underwear? Is it wears? Is it plural? Like you put on multiple
pairs? No, because hands. Yeah. No, because he had underwear. Me different. Well, split
names. You see, you can understand. He had boxers on and a thong over the boxer So under wears
No, he just had a new one he had underwear on
What is it oh my god
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The biggest mistake that people make when it comes to fasting.
Mmm.
When fasting, you know, a lot of questions coming up about fasting because we've been talking about it.
Um, relatively frequently on Instagram, especially me, because I always forget just how fucking awesome I feel
when I do proper fasting. I'm not doing it to get leaner at the moment, although fasting
done properly is probably the most effective method. I mean, if you look at all the like
tools that you can use to get leaner, and I use the word tools because I'm not talking about, you know, you have to eat less calories, you have to eat healthy. That's a given.
Okay. So you got to do those things. But let's say you do those two things. There's all these tricks and tools you can use to maximize your fat loss, fasting by far, by far of all the things
I've done over the last 10 years,
the most effective thing I've ever used to get lean.
That being said, I'm not trying to get leaner right now.
I'm doing it purely for the health benefits.
And here's what I noticed from it.
So I was doing two 24 hour fast a week
and then the rest of the week I'll fast for about 14 hours,
lately just by accident, because we've now done mind pump full time,
I'm fasting about 20 hours almost every single day.
And I feel just fucking amazing,
I feel sharp, my mind feels sharp,
inflammation is non-existent.
My workouts are fantastic, I feel great doing it,
but here's the thing you want to keep in mind,
and here's some of the biggest mistakes
that I see people make when they're doing when
they're fasting.
You have to understand and in categorize fasting in the same category as exercise.
It is a stress on the body.
So exercise being a stress on the body, we know exercise is very good for you.
The actual exercise part of it isn't really good for you.
It's causing damage to your muscles.
It's raising free radicals.
It's, you know,
the heart rate is a little sugar goes up.
Yeah, it's doing all these different things
that aren't necessarily good for you.
The good for you part about exercises
what happens after your body adapts
and gets healthier and gets stronger
and becomes more challenging it.
The same thing is true for fasting.
When you are fasting, your body accelerates its removal of old cells or cells that are
more prone to mutate.
It kills them.
It adapts to the stress of fasting, but becoming more efficient by operating faster, by switching
fuel sources many times for the brain so that you're using more ketones and you can think sharper.
So if you use it properly, like exercise, you're going to get very, very positive adaptations.
And the science supporting fasting right now is so fucking overwhelming that you're an idiot
for, if you would be an idiot
to try to argue against it.
That being said, like exercise, if you over apply fasting,
and this is the mistake I see,
is that people jump in so headfirst and overdo it
and do it wrong, that then, you know, they feel crappy,
they notice a hormone level start to change.
You can cause a adrenal fatigue from too
much fasting too often and not doing it properly. Women can notice stress response that isn't
healthy. So that's the biggest mistake. The biggest mistake I see is people are like,
oh, I've never done fast. It does 24 hours right off the bat.
Yeah, it's not intermittent anymore. You might as well take that out of the title. Like the
long term fasting, you have to think of that as well take that out of the title. Like the long term fasting,
you have to think of that as a long term amount of stress
that you're placing your body in like,
oh no, what are we gonna do?
We need to get food.
You know, it's a response that your body
is going through the state of shock and stress.
And so this is challenging you.
And like Sal was mentioning, it's sort of like filtering
out all these like dead, you know, worthless mutated cells. And what we're doing now is that
then we're replenishing the body with, you know, good quality nutrients and things that will
nourish the body in a different state. So, you know, just balancing between those two, that's where
we get like this crazy amount of benefit.
I'm glad you put emphasis on the intermittent again, because I think a lot of people don't
understand exactly what intermittent means. Yeah. And I think the most common mistake that
I see is abuse and an example of this. It's so typical of anything. Right, because it's something that,
oh shit, this works.
Or, you know, that person who jumps on it right away
is the same person who's willing to try anything, right?
And they're like extreme about everything.
So like, oh, I heard the sub-monger's gonna,
oh, I'm gonna try it, do it like crazy.
Oh, I heard this exercise, do it like crazy.
Oh, I heard that 60 hours of fasting.
Because it's so much benefit to it.
And let's- We's just every single day.
Every day.
Exactly.
So understanding that you want to ease yourself
into it, to fill you.
And you'll see like in our fasting guide,
we talk about six different ways
that you can incorporate intermittent fasting.
And to be clear, there's more than six ways.
Yeah, there's picked the six best ones for our audience, which people are looking to get leaner build muscle and just be healthy. Yeah.
And we and we share how each one of us use it differently. And I think that when you when you
and this is why I don't one of the people that are one of the people's, I should say that
uh, introduce fasting to the community. I think to the masses was the Hodge twins.
And they represent a side of it that I'm not a fan of. I mean, I like the fact that they brought
it to the masses and a lot more people are talking about it because of those guys. But they also
encouraged eating fast food in the small, they're eight hour window that they're eating. So
it's like, if you're doing it for health, right, if you're trying to reduce body fat and you're
looking for all the overall health, which I do it for overall health
That's for for the benefits of that it gives you so if you're gonna do that
You're kind of countering that when you do it so you can get away with eating all this shit food
So there's a lot of people that just and that's the same the same issue I have with if it fits your macros
Can it if it fits your macros be something done healthy and balanced? Absolutely. But do most people do that way? Absolutely not.
Most people go, Oh, if it's your macros, I'll eat whatever the fuck I want as long as
it fits my macros and I can stay lean. Yes, you could do that. But then it defeats a
purpose of a lot of the health benefits that you can get by eating this way. Fasting's the
same way. I see people, they see fasting as a great tool and they're like, Oh, shit.
Now I can eat these fucking gummy bears and not get fat.
So as long as I do my 17 hour fast afterwards, and then so they
begin to incorporate it to try and counter the shit that they're
putting into their body.
Clearly.
Yeah.
Well, and using it as a tool more like you're mentioning with
all these different methods helps to promote more flexibility,
which is something we're big on on this show because like lifestyle,
it has to promote an element of flexibility in there. Otherwise, you know, you're not going
to be able to stick with it. Then it becomes this religion, this dogmatic thing that you're
trying to explain to your friends, family, and everybody else. Like I'm so regimented that I
don't have the flexibility to be able to, you know, have cake or do
this or do that because it's a mentality that I feel is very unhealthy.
Yeah, if you use fasting, like Adam was saying, where you're going to not eat for 12, 14
hours and then go eat food that you know is not healthy for you, what you're all, all
you're doing is fostering an unhealthy relationship with food. All you're doing is giving yourself an excuse to binge eat.
And that's not what fasting is all about.
That's not what any of this is all about.
And that's not what mind pump is about.
Everything we're ever going to promote will have performance benefits, but they're also
going to be strongly rooted in health and longevity. That's just
how we work. And on the flip side of this, look, if you do things for performance that are
also beneficial for longevity and health, not only will you get the dual benefit of being
healthy, longer, and feeling better, but you're going to look better too. I can't stress
this enough. If you've got two people, if you've
got a group of twins and one group of twins eats X amount of calories, X amount of macros,
utilize a certain techniques, but eats lots of processed foods or eats foods that aren't
necessarily good for them, but it fit their macros. And the other group does the same thing,
except they eat healthy foods, do things properly, even though they eat the same calories,
even though the macros are same,
they're using similar tools.
You'll be able to tell just by looking at them,
you'll be able to see who is using the healthy methods.
And I believe you'll also see it in their performance.
The funny thing is in a sport that is extremely,
that is very, very closely related to bad health, bodybuilding.
These pro bodybuilders talk to them and see how much, and I'm talking about the professional
level, ask them how much process food they really have pre-contest, not much.
They eliminate bars and powders.
Why?
Because they figured out they just fucking look better on stage.
They'll say their skin looks thinner or whatever.
But they figured it out. They figured out their skin looks thinner or whatever, but they figure
it out. They figured out that there is a little bit of a health component to it as well.
But with fasting again, it must be done properly and keep this in mind. When you're looking
at your body's capacity to utilize stress to improve, that capacity has an incredible
variance from individual to individual, just like exercise.
I could take a workout and train myself very hard.
I could go in the gym, train very hard, very long,
train very frequently, and what's gonna happen to me
is I'm gonna get in better shape,
I'm gonna feel better, and my health's gonna improve.
Now, I could take a beginner or an intermediate person
who's not used to training that way,
throw them right into my workout
and they're not gonna get the results that I get.
In fact, they're gonna probably have detrimental results.
They're gonna, besides hurting themselves,
they're gonna feel crappy, run themselves down,
maybe put themselves into metabolic damage,
maybe put themselves into adrenal fatigue.
The same holds true for fasting.
If you are the average person and your diet is whatever,
and you're like, you know what,
I wanna utilize fasting, start small,
just like you would with exercise, skip one meal.
Start with that.
There's also multiple ways to utilize it, right?
So if you're talking about getting lean
and somebody also asked, I saw that, Adam responded, but it was on the,
the thread they're asking about to about putting size on on and also,
oh, you mean trying to bulk on a right, but but also well,
using fast too. So if you, I guess, I guess the question was like,
like, that wouldn't really make sense if you're trying to maintain
a surplus in that perspective.
However, there's ways to use it, like Sal was mentioning where we're trying to bring
and incorporate in a healthier process to building up that surplus.
So glad you said that, Justin, because yes, if you're fasting, if you're doing 16 hour fast, you
know, or longer, it is going to be difficult to eat a surplus of calories within your eating
window if you're trying to gain weight.
Especially if you're doing a consistent, right?
There you go.
That's the key right there.
If you're bulking, here's some negatives to bulking.
Number one, anytime you bulk excess calories will and can promote inflammation.
Even if it's healthy food, it's still a lot more calories than you're burning. And so
it can kind of promote that kind of stuff. There are health benefits, the fasting that you
can utilize even while bulking. And this is how you do it. You fast once or twice a week.
Can you make up those calories on the other days? Sure.
We'll still be able to bulk. Absolutely.
Absolutely. And I bet you, you know, I bet you a million bucks, if I had a million
bucks, that you're going to respond even better.
You're going to respond better.
You're going to build muscle better.
Yeah.
A lot of people don't realize this too.
There's a lot of science now pointing to the fact that utilizing fasting increases or
improves the efficiency by which you use protein.
Let me explain what that means.
It's so obvious to me too, when you've been through it
and I felt what I felt.
You feel it.
Yes. Here's what I mean by efficiency.
You eat protein,
your body's gonna use it no matter what.
A large part of the protein you eat
goes to energy.
A large part of it doesn't go to
building and repairing muscle.
Believe me,
it doesn't take much protein
to repair and build muscle.
There's just doesn't.
So a lot of it gets turned in energy.
If you fast what they find is more of that protein, even if you ate the same amount of protein,
more of it gets used for rebuilding muscle, goes to recovery and rebuild, unless it gets used for
energy, that's good. That means you're going to get more out of your protein.
You've made it more quote unquote, anabolic.
It's not just protein.
It's all macro nutrients.
The body becomes more efficient.
Think of your body being like a sponge.
And if a sponge is oversaturated with water, and then you dump a big gallon of water over
that sponge, it still might hold a little bit of the water that it's going through that
sponge, but a majority of it's going to run right through it because it's already oversaturated
with water. Squeeze that sponge completely depleted
of water, drain it all out. It's a dry sponge. Now dump a gallon of water there, see how much
water that that's sponge. Think of the same way as your body, the same thing with the nutrients.
If you're constantly dumping, dumping, dumping water or dumping nutrients on the body,
then it gets, it gets oversaturated and then taking away and deprive it for 17 hours, dry it all up in a sense or deplete it, right?
That's what we would call depleting it.
And then refeed it and see what happens.
Body soaks it out.
I'm telling you, man, if you're bulking right now, you wanted to gain size, incorporate
one or two days a week of fasting.
One is what I would do. What's funny for somebody who's trying to,
if you're aggressively trying to gain,
that's what I do one.
When I'm bulking, it's one day.
And how much better do you feel doing it?
Oh, amazing.
Let me ask you guys this.
What's the first thing,
because for me, it's right around the 12,
trying to think here,
right around the 12 to 14 hour mark,
where I notice like a lot of the benefits of fasting.
Yeah. What are some of the first things that you notice
when you're fasting in terms of your body?
Hightened, cognitive, sharp.
Sharper?
Yeah, I'd say that happens to me too.
I hate this thing where I feel like,
I don't know, I feel like I can see things a little crisper.
That's the first thing I'm gonna do.
He's really sharp clear.
Yeah.
By the way, if you really wanna do the fast fat, if you want to do fasting properly, we broke
it down, we have a fasting guide.
It's only 27 bucks.
It's one of our most inexpensive products.
You get a lot of good information on it.
And it's at mindpumpmedia.com.
Something that you guys didn't say that I think it's important, no real quicks, that you just
brought that up is we also, I believe we still have a deal where we paired it with our nutrition guide
and something that we before we look at fasting as an advanced technique that's why we wrote
a guide for it. It's not as simple as just don't eat you know there is there is things
that to watch out for there is a smarter way to do it.
Well great pairing between the two like we we're mentioning, like going and depleting, but
now what do you refeed with?
Exactly.
And that's what does that even look like?
So we highly recommend that's, and that's just for people that may not be for sure.
If you're advanced, you understand nutrition very well, then you probably don't need the
nutrition guy to go with it.
Just get the best of that thing, guys.
But if you're somebody who is still learning about nutrition and macronutrients and understand what types of foods you should be feeding yourself, that we highly recommend
the guide first is going through the nutrition.
Nutrition, nutrition survival guide.
So you understand balance of food, the types of foods that you should be fueling your
body with, then you take it to the next level by incorporating the fast.
And they're both, they're both available as a bundle for $57 you get both mindpumpmedia.com.
Next question, sir.
Who is, yeah.
Ryan AM90. He was doing a Joe Donnelly workout, which is, why didn't 10?
He survived. He's still alive.
Congratulations.
The way to go, Ryan.
And now he's doing maps red. And there's so much less work that's involved. And he's
asking, will he still see results?
So before we get into the workouts he was doing before,
Ryan should just come on the forum and post that exact
question and see how many people have experienced the same thing.
Yeah, same thing he has.
So here's the thing, number one, we have different maps
programs. If volume is your thing and you like lots and lots,
you like lots of volume in your thing and you like lots and lots you like lots of volume
In your workouts and you like those kind of you know bodybuilder-esque
Training set programs black then you go maps black
Maths aesthetic is got all that no, I want to stop you I want to stop you because here's the thing
This is the reason why I want to stop you from I want to stop you from saying that because to me that's
That is and well you're you're cut you're you're you're you're no where I'm going next well the reason why I want to stop you from saying that because to me, that's, that is, and
well, you're cut. You're, you're, you don't know where I'm going next.
Well, you're going to go somewhere else because that's fine because if you're, if you're
telling us not reading your minds, well, our dicks aren't talking.
Here's the, here's the thing.
It's connected.
Giving you black is exactly is, is, is would be trying to compromise and say, okay, you know,
if you want, if you love that high intensity, you love tons of volume,
but that is the reason why we organized these in an order of red, green, and black.
Is I don't care who you are, what level you're at, you're going to benefit by going through red,
and you should see, and you should actually experience what it's like to train for nine months consistently
and how to gradually increase volume. That is how this is
designed. And you might at first, because you just came off of super high volume, which is probably
where Sal was going, you're some things that you need to take into consideration. Well, if you're
doing super high volume, you cut that back, well, then you're probably not burning as much calories.
So your nutrition needs to slightly adjust. And I mean slightly, but you're also going to be sitting
in a new signal and a new adaptation by going through red that you're not used to because you were so
focused probably on the pump, which I know is working out.
You're speaking to exactly what he needs.
I'm speaking to what he wants.
Yes.
So it's a different mentality and I know people struggle with this as far as changing gears.
You know, that's a really hard thing for people to do. And that's like one of our biggest complaints.
Here's it, look, you gotta ask yourself this question, Ryan.
You gotta ask yourself this question.
What do you really want?
Do you just wanna beat yourself up in the gym?
Well, guess what?
You don't need maps, you don't need Joe Donnelly's workouts,
you don't need anything.
Go in the gym and beat the crap out of yourself.
Remember the fucking stuff. Join just going to join CrossFit.
Do something crazy.
I mean, then beat yourself up.
If you're in the gym because you want to get stronger,
build muscle, get leaner, look better, perform better,
then you wanna follow proper programming.
You wanna follow something that works.
And I will tell you this right now, maps and a ball, maps red works extremely, extremely
well.
And here's the first thing you'll notice, switching from a Joe Donnelly 50 million set,
you know, everything but the kitchen seek workout to a maps and a ball work out.
Here's the first thing you're going to notice Dramatic increases in strength, especially phase one.
Phase one, you will blow yourself away
with the strength gains.
And I ain't making this up.
Those, I'm about to say something right now
and half of you guys would be like, he's full of shit.
Challenge me.
Challenge me, send me an email, send me a text message
on my Instagram.
Challenge me and I'll send you 15 real testimonials
from people who are not solicited.
Well, that's why I say just get on the forum.
If he were to go on, I already know he's not on the forum because if he asks this question
on our forum, we already have probably hundreds of people that have been through Joe D's
workouts or what?
That switched over like it, that have switched over and that will talk him.
This is, this is right to him.
Now, for legal purposes, because I got to say this because otherwise Doug will throw
something on my head. I can't say that this is typical
But I will say this we've seen this a lot people adding like 50 pounds to their PRs and their deadlifts and squats
20 pounds to their bench presses by the way phase one is three weeks
We're seeing silly strength gains in a very short period of time in phase one
Then when they go to phase two and phase three,
what they notice is more muscle, less pain,
way more energy, libido goes up because what happens when you're doing these
super ridiculous high volume just over the top,
go to failing everything set, exercises,
is we don't realize is you've probably depressed your testosterone level.
You're talking to your animal.
Now, if you're on steroids, that my name make, that my name make that big of a difference
and you can get away with it
because you could just increase your, your, your antibiotics.
If you're natural, you're probably depressing
your hormone levels by beating the crap out of yourself
like that.
So will you see results?
I can say unequivocally that a good 80% or eight
or 90% of the people that switch from these.
Or 99.99.
No, I don't want to go that far
because there's those anomalies.
Look, there's those people out there
that just respond really well to punishment that just do.
But most of you don't.
And I know some of you thinking right now,
we're like, oh, I'm fucking awesome.
I'm a super, I got great jeans.
Now, you fucking don't.
Most of you listening right now are average, trust me.
If you had super great jeans,
you would look like a freak right now, okay?
Yep, yep.
We all know that kid.
You all want to school with him.
Everyone had one of them in their classroom.
And by the way, you've seen my pictures.
You've seen Adam's pictures.
Ian DNA.
We're pretty muscular.
Guess what?
Our jeans aren't fucking great either.
We've got relatively normal jeans.
You will get way better results
following a program like MAP Santa Ballock than you will.
On this other stuff,
one of the key differences is the frequency.
You may not be doing as much volume,
you're not going to failure
because we'd say don't go to failure,
but you're doing a lot of frequency.
You're doing three foundational workouts a week
plus trigger sessions.
You're touching your muscles every single day.
Every single day, you're sending that.
I want to make a point right now that I think is extremely important for all listeners
that purchase any of our programs.
Part of the key and the magic behind the program design is that you fucking follow it to
a tee.
Do not take your Joe D. mentality into our program.
No, you're ruined.
Because that defeats the purpose.
There is an important, it's very important to get the body.
They'll do like what I did when I started doing rubber band
exercises or I would trigger.
Trigger sessions I could in a trigger session
which was completely defeating the purpose.
No, you got to follow how we break it down
and then see what happens.
Phase one, you'll see strength gains
and then two and three start happening.
And you start to build muscle,
but for those of you listening who don't have our programs
and don't know what they look like,
I'll just give you this very simple advice.
This is very simple.
Just do this.
Don't even, you know, find,
don't get any of our programs, whatever.
Just do this.
Take your typical body parts split,
the routine that you're following now,
where you do chest on Monday, back on Tuesday, whatever.
Take your total sets.
So if I do chest on Monday,
and I always do, you know, 15 sets.
15 sets for chest on that day.
Yeah, three, four different exercises.
That's it.
Four to five each.
Take those 15 sets,
and instead of doing them all on Monday,
work your chest Monday, Wednesday, Friday,
and do five sets each day.
You're doing the same amount of work.
You're still doing 15 sets. You're doing the same amount of work. You're still doing 15 sets.
You're doing the same amount of exercises,
but what you've done is triple the frequency.
Step two, don't go to failure.
Stop one or two reps short of it.
Just do that and you will freak out.
Stop right there.
Stop right there.
You also need to mentally check yourself
that it's going to feel totally different.
Feel very different.
You're not chasing a pump.
You're focused on the frequency more than you are chasing the circle plasma hypertrophy. But don't worry. Feel very different. You're not chasing a pump. No. You're focused on the frequency more than you are chasing this
circle plasma hypertrophy. But don't worry. That comes later.
Yeah. That comes later. That's phase three. There's an,
there is an important piece. There's, and don't any program that you
purchase. And this was the biggest issue we had with all the
programs that are out there. Is they all hang on like one thing or
they pick one thing that's important and a little bit of science
and they incorporate it.
Where we're trying to teach you all of them through all these programs and show you, you
know, order.
Yes.
In an order and how you should cycle through them.
So just because you're going through maps phase one and you're come and don't be in your
head comparing it to some other program, whether it be Lane Norns or Joe D's or fucking whoever
your favorite bodybuilder friend. Honey. it to some other program, whether it be Lane Norns or Joe D's or fucking whoever your
favorite bodybuilder friend.
Honey.
Yeah.
Don't compare that one phase to the entire program because we don't believe in that.
That's why it's nine months.
If you go through all of our programs, it's nine months of programming.
Like, that's how long that you should be going through and cycling through all these
different modalities instead of trying to throw it all into one and hit it all in one week.
That doesn't make sense.
Right.
You might see more results in that one week compared ours, but over the course of one
month, two month, three months, nine months, you're, we'll blow it away.
Right.
But again, just to recap, take your total sets on Monday for chest, break it up, do
three workouts and break up those sets on those three workouts.
Just do that and then send us a message.
And you'll see.
Haynes.unterscore.
What is the best techniques to use to train a client into a deep squat?
So I want to comment on something about this because I had a great experience with Justin.
Oh.
Yeah, so we had a few bottles of wine.
Yeah, I was gonna say, one thing.
You remember one thing led to another.
Yeah, we were one deep.
No, we went to, we went to go see Dr. Justin
at what's the name of his place?
Premiere Sport and Spine.
Premiere Sport and Spine, which it's in San Jose
off of Almodena and Cherry.
Probably the best, definitely the best functional
chiropractic, you know, work I've ever seen in my entire life. I'm going to go so far and say that
he blew my mind. He blew my mind. We're going to, and if he's listening to this now, we are,
we are going to steal him. We are going to align with him. We have to, he's our guy. He's brilliant.
But anyway, we're in there. And he's showing me stuff that,
it's been a long time since I've had someone
show me something that I didn't know
or had no concept of.
And he's showing us stuff that I've never seen or done before.
And me and Justin are in there,
and he's having us do some squat assessments.
Now, it's no surprise that amongst the three of us in this room or
the four of us including Doug, that myself, I sell, and probably the tightest, probably
have the worst mobility, I would say. So, not very good doing the squad assessment. He's
putting some amazing stuff out just in on the other hand, squatted like Fuck it was it was a site to behold
It was just beautiful like he sits in his squat arms overhead
You just want to hug him dude. It's just what a hug you know that it's only because like the irony of this whole thing right is that we're
We're both standing there and we take our shoes off for the solids over it being they looks at the doctor he's like
Yeah, so are we gonna, you know,
have some kind of point score here?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like, you know, like instantly turning into competition,
and I'm just kind of laughing.
And the doctor, like this,
I don't know, you're gonna be like,
I can feel it this.
And Doc Justin looks at me and he goes,
well, you're already losing.
You're actually,
he's like, you just pulled your socks off.
Yeah, you pulled your socks off,
I gotta tell you're fucking,
and he broke us down immediately just by staying there.
But they commented him and his assistant commented
on how great Justin squat look.
So I'll defer to you, Justin.
Like, what have you done through the years
to make your mobility and your squat look so damn fucking amazing?
You know, like, sharing between,
because he asked me to, like, what I was doing for mobility and all these things,
because even with my shoulder,
like, he commented and was like, wow, you know,
I can't believe, you know, like,
the shoulders and hips and everything else
is so connected like that.
And in that kind of a range of motion.
And I've really put a lot of emphasis.
Once I've, once I started to kind to dabble into the whole mobility realm, I just, I take something like that
and I want to master it.
For me, it just became this skill that I just, I was on a course to really attack, you
know, how to better myself through this. And really, I got hurt a while back
with my QL and this led me down the, okay, how am I going to rehab this myself? How am I
going to get better and be able to get back on my feet and be able to get that kind of
range of motion, my squat again, everything else. And going down the rabbit's hole of all
these methods out there, all these techniques, it's so
neurological. It's such a neuromuscular connectivity issue. And once I completely plugged into that,
which, you know, it still seems foreign to a lot of people that your mind can really control
mind can really control the ability of your limbs
and your muscles and like you have control if you are concentrating on activating
that connection from your brain to your muscles.
So this was something shocking to me that I learned
at the long ago is that it is all central nervous system.
Here's an example. I mean, it it is all central nervous system. Here's an example.
I mean, it's not all central nervous system
because there can be joint issues and tightness issues.
But even tightness, muscle tightness comes
from the central nervous system.
But I'll give you an example.
He put me in a position where I was,
I don't remember, I was on the ground.
I think I was kneeling on my knee.
And he wanted me to lift, like bend my knee so I could bring my heel to my butt, right? While I'm kneeling, I was on the ground, I think I was kneeling on my knee, and he wanted me to lift,
like bend my knee so I could bring my heel to my butt, right? While I'm kneeling, I think it was.
And I could only bring it up so far, like I couldn't go up any further. And he said,
do you, and I said, why can't you bring it up further? And I said, I just don't have that range
of motion. And he goes, no, you do. And he went under with his hand. And he goes, watch this.
And he lifted his hand and he pulled it up to that position, which makes sense. And he says, Sal, you have that range of motion,
your muscles just don't have the strength
to support you in that new range of motion.
And we've talked about this on the podcast before,
but it became so glaringly obvious to me.
And so like what Justin's saying here with mobility,
really it's about getting neuromuscular connection
to those ranges of motion.
So what I want to ask you, Justin, is like, can you give us like, like give us one simple
technique that, I mean, because I know there's a lot that goes into this.
Obviously, it will be your front two hours.
I'll just do one very, very basic thing that was a game changer for me working on the squat
specifically as a skill.
And it was creating more muscular tension.
Okay.
So, how does that look?
It could look like even if I just me and my body, and something that we actually included
this in Maps White, in our Maps Anywhere program, because you don't need anything, you just
need your body.
But there's a way to actually tense up your body and try to really magnify that response all
throughout your body as I'm pressing my feet into the ground
and creating this tension all the way through every little
articulation angle all the way down into as low as I could
possibly physically press my way down.
So maybe I'm using my arms to then raise up and press my body weight down.
This is like your dumpy squat, right?
This is the dumpy squat concept.
So I start with the body weight as an example, but you know, if you do have a stick,
it becomes way more handy because now I can actually place it in the corner of a doorway or a squat rack
or something like that.
And now I can create this muscle tension response by pressing it into that corner.
Now, I've done this with a door.
So I didn't have a stick.
So what I did is I opened a door and just grabbed the door knobs on either side.
And then I kind of did that.
And so what I did was I just,
like Justin's saying, you tense up your whole body
and you start to drop down into a squat,
but the goal is to, it's like you're grinding down,
like everything's tight the whole way down
and then get to your squat to the bottom
and then just keep kind of driving and grinding yourself
as far down as you possibly can
and then come on, hold down to the bottom.
Yes, you, especially in the beginning when we're really trying to reinforce that signal, grinding yourself as far down as you possibly can, and then come on, hold down at the bottom.
Especially in the beginning,
when we're really trying to reinforce that signal,
place a little more emphasis at that isometric position,
because if you think of a squat
and you're thinking about increasing depth,
we wanna make sure that it responds
with even more magnitude,
and it helps you when you're at your sticking point
or you're at your weakest part of the lift.
So for me, like I'll get down as low as I can get down
and then I'm just sitting in it
and I'm just sizing my body, right?
And by the way, this is exhausting.
Yeah, people, so what you're listening,
what you're doing it correctly.
If you're doing this right, you're exhausted.
You're doing this whole entire process.
It's like one rep.
Well, last year, maybe 30 seconds, right?
About 30, 45 seconds.
You should be able to have to take a break
for a couple of minutes.
It's exhausting as hell.
Adam, your squat has gone from,
well, yeah, I think, I think,
your squat won't from horrible to good.
I think, and a short period of time.
I think last year, if you talk about you being the worst. I think I was the worst a year ago. I think after
You surpassed me. I put I put a lot of energy into this though. I just want to I want to make that very clear that it's not this is not an overnight process. This is not a
Go do this once or twice and all of a sudden you have this great range of motion. I have been working towards a
Deep narrow squat for a very long
time with good form, right? Good mechanics, really deep narrow squat for, and I've slowly
progressed to that. It's literally been a process that's been over a year. It's been at
least a year that I've been working on that consistently. And some of the things, two
big things, I think that Justin didn't mention that I had put a lot of emphasis
on what he's saying, 100% I've, that's a part of it, this also. But taking, we talk a lot
about frequency and understanding the importance of frequency of stretching. And so my opening
my hips up and just getting down and sitting in a squat. So I'll find myself like, if I'm
teaching a class or I've been standing and it's like, I'll get all the way down. I'll find myself, like if I'm teaching a class, or I've been standing in, it's like, I'll get all the way down.
I'll sit all the way down in the deepest position I can
and just get comfortable trying,
get comfortable in that position.
And I'll be sitting in that position,
trying to bring my shoulders back
and think about my form of just sitting in that position.
And then same thing for opening my hips up.
I have like the 90, 90 stretches big for me.
The lizard with rotation is a big one for me.
Those are big mobility moves that have helped open my hips up.
And I just will, a lot of times just get down and do it.
Even if it's just a couple of them.
Dude, like frequency is such a humongous point
because, you know, you're pre-setting this pattern,
this recruitment pattern.
So the more frequent I produce a type of a movement
that more ease you have,
getting down into that depth
or having more strength in that range of motion.
It's amazing, but a lot of people
take the same damn mentality that they have with training
and they, even when they know, like you have someone who teaches them to stretch and they
approach it the same way with this intensity of it's, oh man, I need to go stretch and,
you know, there's like, oh, it's like this really intense, like pushing really hard and
then I'm sweating and it's like this, no, like, you don't, it doesn't need to be that
way.
And when I figured that out, that like, I don't need to go through this grueling stretching
every single day.
I, it's better if I do three little, little easy stretches
or mobility moves just to get that signal.
But they're doing frequent.
Yes, frequently get connected.
Go down there, do a few of them.
You know, three hours later, get down, do a couple more.
You know, three hours later, do a couple more.
And, and wherever, obviously you can't do all these things all the time, but even if I'm sitting at a table, I'm in a, I'm, I hours later to do a couple more. And wherever, obviously, you can't do all these things all the time.
But even if I'm sitting at a table, I'm in a meeting that's going on for an hour or two.
You know, I'll sit at the edge of my chair and just retract my shoulders to retract,
to press my shoulders and get this nice, a mechster contraction and hold and think about
that.
And I'll do that two or three times.
Then I'm done with it.
But trying to do that all the time throughout the day and being aware and connected like that, man, that has been,
that's been everything for me. It's been a huge, huge game changer of just doing. And it's
easy. It's not hard. It's just having that reminder. And if you're a techie person, use your iPhone
or use your tool that is your wrist to set reminders for you that just vibrates
every few hours.
And when it vibrates, you know, do one of those stretches or isometric holds that is
going to increase those that run your crotch.
That'll remind you.
GE Grayling is asking if Adam will ever compete again.
Oh, yeah.
Well, Adam ever, ever see you.
Well, we ever see you on stage,
and we step in your in your shorts,
walking around doing your,
doing your calf raises before you get up on the,
I remember seeing quarter to your name,
quarter to quarter, quarter to quarter.
I think that I think there's a part of me that,
now, France, that will again,
I think, I think if I get enough people, I think are tied to us and like let's say for example we
decide we're going to go out to like the Arnold show or go to a big, a big competition where we're
going to have a mind pump booth and maybe make a weekend out of it, maybe you can set up like a
mind pump get away and I know there's going to be a lot of our fans. I would do it for something like
that. I would plan something like that with us and I think in 2017 I foresee mind pump getaway and I know there's going to be a lot of our fans. I would do it for something like that.
I would plan something like that with us.
And I think in 2017 I foresee mind pump traveling a lot and doing seminars and
different states and stuff.
So I think I could see myself setting that.
But honestly, like I don't have a desire to compete to try and to try and be
the best in that just because you've got to have lost some of the drive to do that.
I mean, once you've got gold to do that was to get to this point where we're doing the show. Yeah. A lot
of it. And if you're just tuning in the show, you may not know that you may, you may not
know that the ultimate goal was really just to gain attention and credibility, too. Unfortunately,
in our industry, a lot of people don't, don't care about how much you actually know in your knowledge and experience. If they don't think you can do it to yourself or people don't care about how much you actually know
in your knowledge and experience.
If they don't think you can do it to yourself
or they haven't seen you do it.
So a part of that was like, and it was perfect
because I just came off being in the worst shape of my life.
It was okay, let me take myself
out of the best shape of my life
and show people that I can do that.
And that actually turned into, okay,
well let's take it to another level
and go get on stage and then that turned into a...
Well, there's some truth to that too, right?
Because you gained a lot of insight, you know, as far as the process of it and then also
like what you would change and alter.
And I think a lot of your advice has been critical for a lot of these athletes that listen
to our show because, you know, like they have to know that you can do it with health and mind
too, which is something that's like this total foreign concept in that world.
Exactly.
And I think, and there's nothing to gain for me really anymore for competing.
So not to say I would never compete, but it's less motivating when there's not much
to gain anymore.
Well, that's what I'm saying.
Like, knowing you, you don't do anything half-ass.
So if you're going gonna do a competition,
it's because you're gonna try and win.
And if you don't have the,
if it doesn't pull to you anymore, like it used to,
that would be very difficult.
You know what I mean?
I feel like you'd want it, like okay,
I think I'm gonna compete,
but right now I'm so focused on what we're doing here
with my implement and everything.
It might not even be worth it.
Yeah.
You know, I mentioned that we have some people
in our form right now that are aspiring competitors and they're training,
they're young, they're like 19 to 23 years old
and they've been training hard
and they've been underneath us for over a year now.
And I've been watching them progress their physiques
and it's really exciting to see where they're going
and their ultimate goal is to become a pro and compete.
And I've told some of them that
that is something that would get me out of retirement, right?
I would love to see some people that we have kind of mentored, worked their way up the chain,
get to the professional level, and I would love to hop on stage as support, you know, not
going there to, I mean, of course, I'm competitive.
Of course, I'm going to try and win anything I fucking do, but I would love to do it and
support our community, somebody else who's trying to compete,
meet up with them and do a show,
knowing that they're gonna get into a show.
I would love to do something like that.
But as far as competing,
the only thing that gets bigger than what I've done now
at the professional level is to make it to Olympia.
Is to take a first place in a pro show,
make it to Olympia, I know what it takes to do that.
And it's not the level of commitment
to building my physique that will get me there. It's the other shit that I have no desire to do.
Justin made a great point. I what I've taken and what I've learned from that side of the business.
It's made me a better trainer. It's made me a better coach. It's enlightening me on that industry.
I have all that now. You know, I don't, doing another show won't give me any more of it.
I don't think you're gonna get much more.
Yeah, so that's where I stand.
You know, but I believe there is more shows in my future.
I enjoyed it while I did it.
I love getting ready for show.
I hate getting on stage.
As much as I'm the outgoing one
and love the limelightness in that,
I'm not in deposing,
I'm not into the whole, that whole thing.
I don't like the getting all tanned up and prancing around,
but I do love the competitive side
of getting ready for a show, for sure.
I do love when they apply it.
Ooh.
500 days of fuck you is asking yourself
and Adam have it.
Where's he been?
We want Doug to say that more.
Yeah, I know.
That's why you chose this question.
Yes.
Have Sal and Adam ever smoked cannabis together?
And what was it like?
Does it bear shit in the woods right?
Have we ever had cannabis?
Well, yeah, quite a few times.
You know, it turns into, it turns into,
it's pretty magical.
It turns into a romantic evening.
No, we see.
The three of us, period, the three of us,
or when Doug's there with four of us,
like when we get together and we have nothing specific to do,
it becomes a explosion of creative ideas.
Orgy.
I mean, it's just, it's one person talking over the other,
writing shit down, we've come up with some
of our best ideas.
When you throw cannabis into the mix,
it's like putting it on steroids, man.
It just goes, we just go crazy.
We just go crazy.
We just write and shit down and go nuts with it.
It's so crazy and so intense
that we can't do it every day.
It's something that we can't,
because it's exhausting.
Because once we get rolling,
it is pretty unreal.
And we can't, here's the thing.
I've realized this,
we have a tough time chilling. So like, let's say we all go've realized this. We have a tough time chilling.
So like, let's say we all go to a party.
We're all invited to someone's party, right?
Inevitably what happens is 10 minutes after we've,
you know, said hi to everybody.
We end up going off on our own
and we just start brainstorming and working, okay?
There's no way we could, we could smoke cannabis
with a group of friends and relax
because what'll end up happening
is it'll turn into a conversation about mind pump amongst us
and we end up shutting everybody else out.
I will figure out some other universal sign
that was meant to be.
This is also, I mean, and I know we probably have.
Did you smoke somewhere?
Yeah, man.
I mean, I'd say that like what, 50% of the people
are pro and 50% are gay, right?
So somewhere around there. So I'm sure some people are pro, 50% are yay, right? So somewhere around there.
So I'm sure some people are listening
and they're just like, ah, you know,
they're still anti marijuana this and that.
You may live somewhere where you're totally sheltered
from all of it or you haven't listened to enough of our episodes
or we talk about the science supporting it.
But you got like six wives, so it's cool.
All right.
How were that coming from?
Boom.
Where I was going with that is that this is how I think I try to be careful about how we
talk about this.
I don't want to become a show that's like, oh yeah, Mary wanted this.
We don't advocate it.
Yeah, no, we don't.
But I also like to be very truthful and real.
There are certain things that I
Love to use it for one of them. I've expressed many times
It is it helps me sleep at night helps shut my brain down at the at night time before I go to bed. So I
Have a strain that I typically smoke at night that helps me do that and then there's strains that I enjoy that
promote creativity and
When I'm sourdies all 100% creativity. And when I'm-
Souradiesel.
100% yeah 100% when I'm with the boys and we're we are writing a program or
creating content or we're just talking about the vision of the business. I
absolutely love to be medicated and I love to utilize a strain that I know
that promotes that creativity and I don't give a fuck who you are like if
you've if you've never experienced that,
it's fucking 100% real, there's science that supports it
and it does work.
And it's harder to focus on specifics.
Like if we were like, okay guys,
let's break down the numbers and look at the percentages
and start calculating things out.
But like, all right.
Yeah, we can't be doing cannabis before.
But if it's like, we're coming up with ideas,
new ways to market,
the creativity side, right?
That part, yeah, that part definitely.
If you're doing task-oriented things,
for me, it's not something I, you know,
now I've met people that are like that,
but for creativity, like, you know,
you're talking about something like,
when right now we're building a business
that is far from complete.
And so a lot of that takes a lot of creativity and we all love getting together and sharing
our visions.
And I tell you what, some of the best shit comes out of that.
It does.
But I'll tell you this too, look, we're not stoners.
So what I mean by that is we don't do it during the day, rarely.
And look, if you're one of those people that has it all day long, whatever, it's your body, do what you want, but I'm not trying to make that my life. I'm not trying
to take away from anything in my life.
It's like anything we tell about. It's a, it's a tool. I use it medicinally. That's,
that's legit, legitimate reason why I use it. And the creativity aspect, when we really
want to dive into that, but other than that, I don't use it all day.
I don't wake in bake.
I don't smoke, you know, mid afternoon or whatever.
If it's for me, it's always in the evening.
And I will say this, if you're listening and you're thinking about using it,
now you want to because you heard, you know, sound Adam talk about it.
Like be smart.
Be very smart about it if you're gonna use it.
Make sure it's legal, don't break the law
or try not to break the law or whatever.
And you know, don't, anything can be abused.
And I've seen a lot of people take weed
and it becomes their excuse to become lazy fucking losers.
And I'm sure it wasn't the weed.
They were already lazy fucking losers
and now they have a great excuse
and they get to smoke weed all day long and be lazy fucking losers.
So good point.
That's it.
You're going to see a man.
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