Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 352: Fat Grips, Mouthpieces, Training for Performance AND Aesthetics & MORE

Episode Date: August 24, 2016

Kimera-Quah! In this episode of Quah, sponsored by Kimera Koffee (kimerakoffee.com, code "mindpump" for 10% off), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about fat grips & bars, finding a good p...ersonal trainer, training for performance and aesthetics simultaneously and using mouthpieces when training. We have just "launched" our YouTube channel, Mind Pump TV. Search "Mind Pump TV" on YouTube & Subscribe. Sal, Adam, Justin & Doug will be posting valuable content there regularly. Get MAPS Anabolic, MAPS Performance, MAPS Aesthetic and the Butt Builder Blueprint (The RGB Super Bundle) packaged together at a substantial DISCOUNT at www.mindpumpmedia.com. Please subscribe, rate and review this show! Each week our favorite reviewers are announced on the show and sent Mind Pump T-shirts! Have questions for Mind Pump? Each Monday on Instagram (@mindpumpradio) look for the QUAH post and input your question there. (Sal, Adam & Justin will answer as many questions as they can)

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Starting point is 00:00:00 What are we doing right now? We're gonna give away T-shirts boom boom boom. Ow ow. I think we're out of shirts No, I think we have a few more left right? I like a tons of shirts Yeah, but we had 12 reviews this last week 12. That's not yeah, I know it's not so special They're not too bad. It's kind of mid-ray. You better leave a review man What are we gonna do about that if you leave a review, you're probably gonna win a t-shirt, honestly, how many shirts are we giving away? This time we're gonna give away three.
Starting point is 00:00:30 Okay, so 12 people left the review, we gave away three shirts. What are the odds now? That's not how I wanna direct people to give, this is how I wanna direct people to give reviews. You know how I wanna keep it real here, we share everything. And I want you guys to know that. And Sal just shared this with me. No, this is true shit right here.
Starting point is 00:00:45 Oh, the best part about these reviews is that, you know, we're human. So we go through our ups and downs and there's times when we're feeling sad and yeah, and literally nothing makes me feel more better inside than reading reviews. And every one of the guys in here has said that because we read all of them. Yeah, sometimes we go sometimes I go like a week or so before I catch up to the ones ones from the previous week But I tell you what I always any time I'm feeling down or frustrated or You know the business just feels so daunting and just when I thought I could see the life in the tunnel Just got further away like
Starting point is 00:01:22 Then I go on the reviews, and I get on there, and it makes me feel so warm. It's actually true. No, it's true, I'm dead serious. So if you don't do it for a shirt, do it for sale. Wow. Yes, do that on me.
Starting point is 00:01:36 That's a good idea. All right, let me read these off. We got a live. That's about a H-L-I-V. Oh, that's why you said it like that I can weird My dog leave the weirdness to us Yeah, you get it right. What the hell? Holy moly and canoley
Starting point is 00:01:53 Holy moly and canoley TD fitness All three of you are winners of a brand new Sparkling pump t-shirt. Yes, and it's black on black mind pump. T.D. Fit the way out of my shirt. Is that her boy Travis Dillard? I don't know. I have no idea. I want to. Shout out to Dillard, Dillard. So here we are. If you send your name, then when I just read to iTunes at mindpumpmedia.com,
Starting point is 00:02:20 also your shirt size, your shipping address, we'll get that to you quickly. If you wanna pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. Mind, pop, mind, pop with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. Oh great, Gatsby. Here's the thing, guys, we just, my new, we just recorded a Q&A and we answered
Starting point is 00:02:46 another question about how to find a good trainer and we talked about a proper assessment again. Holy shit. Yeah, I feel like we've talked about this several times and we're not giving people a good solution. So, let's, what, what, what are we, we're going to do an assessment, bro. That's what I'm saying. Let's rip out. Let's put together a free assessment for people. Free.
Starting point is 00:03:06 Yes, free. So it'll be on our site. Doug, can we make that like a pop up? Like they go to mindpumpmedia.com. And it'll be a pop up that comes up. And we're gonna have our hands in it. Us three. So personal.
Starting point is 00:03:17 We're personally gonna answer. Personalize. They will feel, okay. We won't be able to run it for very long time. Cause if we get, if we get too many people, we might not be able to continue. So as long as we can, we will personally, so in other words, not as long as we can, we need to put a date on a Doug. How long do you think we should do it for very long time. I was just going to say, because if we get too many people, we might not be able to continue. So as long as we can, we will personally, so in other words, not as long as we can, we need to put a date on a dog.
Starting point is 00:03:28 How long do you think we should do it for seven days, 10 days? That's just seven days. Seven days. Seven days from when you hear this. So seven days from when you hear this for 50 people, there's going to be a free or first 50 people. Okay, so first 50 or seven, whichever comes first first of all, first of all, first of all, first of all, first of all, first of all, first of all, first of all, first of all, first of all, first of all, first of all, first of all, first of all, first of all,
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Starting point is 00:04:02 first of all, first of all, first of all, first of all, first of all, first of all, first of all, first of all, first of all, first of all, first of all, first of all, first of all, first of all, first of all, first of all, first of all, first of all, first of all, first of all, first of all, first of all, first of all, first of all, first of all, first of all, first of coming up was someone asked about how to maximize performance while building in a very aesthetic physique. And we recommended that they do maps aesthetic and maps performance because those are the best programs. Well, and we've been getting this is I'm glad we're addressing this finally because I've gotten a ton of people in boxing about about how do they combine that.
Starting point is 00:04:20 Yeah, and we don't have a bundle for that. We don't have something that's for green and black. So, so we want to make a bundle with maps, performance and maps aesthetic, bundle them together, discounted mine pump media.com. This is the sexy athlete bundle. Sexily, I like that. Yeah. But should we throw something else in there with it? Well, let's teach you people how to blend it. Yeah, let's teach because here's the other thing too, right? You can go green, you can go black, and then some people want to try to mix it. Which, how do you fuse that? This is how I train right now.
Starting point is 00:04:46 Which, this is kind of what really inspired me to want to do this was because I've given, getting tons of people asking for it already. Plus, this is kind of how I train. I train if maps performance had a baby with maps black. That's how what I would get. And so this is, so we're gonna put something in there,
Starting point is 00:05:01 almost like a mod or whatever, teaching people how to blend them together. So you're doing them both simultaneously. If you you already own that it takes some programming work on our Yeah, we got that if you if you own black and green you're already gonna get it for of course We got to give those people that for free. Yeah, you have it. You get it for free teach him had a blend Yes, but if you don't and you want the maps aesthetic maps performance We're gonna bundle them together discount them So you get them for a lower rate price than if you've got them individually.
Starting point is 00:05:26 Plus get this mod that's gonna teach you how to do them both at the same time simultaneously. MinePumpMedia.com. Ooh, sexy athlete. Real quick, Doug said something earlier that was interesting. Doug, what level do you have my dial at? My volume dial? Yeah, it's Sal, you're at 2.5. What's Adam and Justin at?
Starting point is 00:05:47 Adam's a little over 3 and Justin's at 3.5. Wow, yeah, that means you're the most ear piercing. It means... It means you guys are your asshole. Do that again. I'm doing it. This pierces me. Do I really sound the abyss barely sound like that Fuck I hope not
Starting point is 00:06:13 All I'm saying is you guys need more assistance to match My voice power I've got the voice power. No, some day I must be relaxed. When we first got here and I put the headphones on, I was like, fuck, Doug, why is South? So it's just you're piercing sometimes, man. I feel like Justin, I have this soul tree voice or it's like soothing. Are you feel so relaxed and comfortable listening to us? You could, like, you could do errands listening to us. Yeah. You know, watch day time TV listening to us. I'm looking bad over here. Touch yourself listening to us. You know, watch day 20v listening to us. I'm looking bad over here.
Starting point is 00:06:46 Touch yourself listening to us. Whatever. Is it really like that? You know, it's sour. He's like, yeah. Wake up everybody. Good morning. Wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:06:55 But my voice is relatively low. Okay, so first of all, stop that high shit. All right. It's obviously not that low. I had to go turn it to something else. No, because if, what's the dude's name that played fucking Darth Vader's voice? James Earl Jones, okay, if James Earl Jones. Die. What's that? James.
Starting point is 00:07:14 What do you think of as if I win? If James Earl Jones was on the show right now, if he was behind the mic, do you think Doug would have to turn it up or down to listen to his voice? You have to turn it up. No, you wouldn't. Yes. Bro, you wouldn't even need a mic. He would have to turn it up. Don't agree with them, Doug. James Earl Jones. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no It's been strange you feel like he's getting pulled away from me. I do it be more like P.B. Herman like no like yeah, I did nailed it What's her face? Did you say her yeah, what's her face? What's Ellen you'd be like Ellen, you know if Ellen was on the show that's Ellen yeah, I'd have to turn her her. Was that make us, dude? We're like James Earl Jones. Hey, CEO Donald.
Starting point is 00:08:05 Exactly. Damn it. Ellen's not bad. I mean, she gets, you know, if we look at the lady, her voice a little whiny, just like this. Yeah, but she's funny, but people women like her. I don't see that. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:08:17 No, really, but you know, I'm gonna teach you how to hold a fork properly at him. It's like a shovel. You hold it like a shovel. Like a kid eating cereal. Yeah, the manners course. He like fists the fork and then he scoops it into it. He shovels it into his golet and into the golet.
Starting point is 00:08:34 It stuffs his cheeks. It's a great word. And choose and then continue to grow up. Did you guys grow up with like strict manners rules? Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, it definitely. For reals? Yeah, yeah, no, definitely. Yeah, if you were to eat at a table,
Starting point is 00:08:46 you wouldn't see me put my elbows on a table and I'd have my fork in it. Yeah, no, I'd be like, wait a minute, wait a minute. Put the napkin in your lap. I eat that way when I'm in tub of air and I'm sitting behind a mic and I'm trying to shovel it down so we could go ahead and I normally would not eat like. I have a question for you then,
Starting point is 00:08:58 because I've heard about the whole elbows on the table thing. Yeah. Is that real? Is that really bad manners? Yeah. The elbows how? Like that really bad manners? Yeah. The elbows how, like when I'm eating or anytime. When you put elbows or the, or when you chew with your mouth open, like you do a lot, those two things are like super, no, no, bro.
Starting point is 00:09:14 I would get slapped upside the head. That's cultural. See though, like you can, you can go all that. We get racist. It's totally Italian. It is. Right? You guys just stick the fork in the spaghetti.
Starting point is 00:09:24 Yeah. Yeah, yeah, because I, I, I, I, I, Italy it is right you guys just like the fork in the spaghetti I wish people in Mexicans are super like a great manners of the course Oh Give Heidi tidy all my potatoes are fucking do just in I hate to say I like you so much But you can't you cannot fucking clown me on this I know I can like it shit all over me, bro I know this you do realize that just it gets like 60% of his bro He loses a good two 300 calories a day From just that Dude
Starting point is 00:09:58 Like I had great manners, and I just I was like anything else. I revolt Like you'll need a salad? Yeah. You'll need a salad and then like, like half your face is shy. The olive oil. Why do you think I don't have like beer, dude? I don't want to, like, left over. You'll be a man sometimes.
Starting point is 00:10:14 Sometimes when I'm really hungry, I just take food off his face, you know? Yeah. You just feel hungry. You know what? He's always whip, you just bite off. I'm sure Justin's got some food left on his face. Yeah, like, no, it happened to the day we were eating
Starting point is 00:10:23 at the purple onion and I showed up late. Did that just, no, really, some food left in his face. No, it happened to the day we were eating at the purple onion. And I showed up late. Cause I just, no, really, it's not on my face. I tried to take, nobody says anything anymore Justin. We're over it now. So, okay. But I took the back roads, aren't good friends. I took the back roads and I was late. Cause I fucking lost all the time.
Starting point is 00:10:37 And I walk and you guys are still eating at just this face. And it looks like, it looks like, it looks like he eats without a fork It's time for that shit ain't nobody got no time for that shit you roll up on him You're like bro you don't use your fork or what it looks like it looks like you went up to the fawns And and nozzled his head with his face that's how much oil we have all over space I'm like what happened? To fight with your salad. It's shit. I wish I still had a pompadour. It's used it for that.
Starting point is 00:11:06 Oh, yeah, well. It should happen. It's on my face. Now, were you this way as a kid? Where's a kid? Did you get it all over you? I have no idea, dude. For the whole news to me. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:11:19 You guys are like, so we're better for you. We're obvious. Like we're just gonna show you all your flaws. No, no, no, no, no, no. Thanks. Hey, dude, no, no, no. Thanks. Hey dude, literally on this exact episode, you were making voices trying to say this sound.
Starting point is 00:11:31 No, it's a let it, no, because my wife is the biggest, you know, critic of like how I eat and how I eat. I was like, oh my god, she calls me out all the time. Please. That's you really? Yeah, yeah. It's because, you know what though? Okay, to give you credit, this is why.
Starting point is 00:11:44 Justin is a passionate person. He's passionately, you're yeah, yeah, it's because you know what though. Okay to give you credit This is why Justin is a passionate person He puts his face listen listen think about how I eat that pussy girl My wife is a handy No, ask for you for at least a week You'll bring the door bug and it he opens the door you like bro Oh, dude, she's gonna be like, but no ask for you for at least a week. Damn it. You'll bring the door bug and it. He opens the door, you're like, bro, you been eating salad, looks like all of a sudden,
Starting point is 00:12:09 I was like, no. Nah, just that pussy. Yeah, that pussy. Your mom's. Hey, so boom. Hey, you know what, though? I would rather see the food all over your face than listen to Sal chew food,
Starting point is 00:12:22 because Sal chewed with his mouth open. And that is really oh my god Yeah, you've never told me this before yes, I have I tell you all the time But just suddenly I'm not a dick about it. I'm just like hey bro. Choose your mouth. Yeah, cuz you're not a dick, right? I just announced it on air. That's all stop pretending like you take people's feelings to consider it I don't tell anybody but I'll tell everybody Yeah, I will tell you about it. I'll tell our audience.
Starting point is 00:12:46 So I chewed my mouth open. You didn't, you really didn't know that? No. No one's told you that. No girlfriend's ever said. Honey, you're, how do you're smacking your gums when you, no, wow. No.
Starting point is 00:12:55 Okay, well, I'm telling you now. Really? I'm gonna pay attention next time I'm meeting. Ah, okay. I do that with my mouth. Now that we've talked about it, I'll let you know. I'm like, hey, just give you that kind of dog. I mean, I, I'll look over here, go. How's that food, bro? Yeah. How's we've talked about it, I'll let you know. I'm like, hey, just give that kind of a nod. I mean, I'll look over here and go, how's that food, bro?
Starting point is 00:13:08 How's it taste? It sounds good from here. Sounds awesome. In reality, I'd say you probably, Adam probably does have the best etiquette. Now, I'm thinking about it. When he's eating, I mean, it kind of makes up for his... It's suffering, it's on air. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:22 But because I think that there's always a balance, right? Like if you're an asshole, then you have to be very, you know, like the proper one you eat, right? I see. So that's how we're, it's a good thing. If you're an asshole, you have to eat.
Starting point is 00:13:35 Well, he's gonna eat and clean. You know, it's the whole cleaning thing, I think. You're just really worried about it. I think it is that. I think it's just that I'm, like I also, I always, I'm overly clean. Like I won't sit down to eat something either unless I have a napkin in my opposite hand
Starting point is 00:13:47 because yeah I have a habit of like even just wiping my face because just because I you know I think at one point was like Justin where well you know what it is I've totally grown into our mantra zero fucks I'm just like the old guy that's like oh yeah better than you fuck you yeah I feel like Justin's a type tag guy would be at a restaurant eating and he'd get some shit on his face and he just wipe with a shirt real quick. Oh, my, my wife will wear a shirt.
Starting point is 00:14:12 It's showing a show. Oh, it's good. The tablecloth. Yeah. This wipe is whole face off. Man, I'm not dainty. Shh. Oh, there it is! Wee-caw-ing-all-it-a-planet.
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Starting point is 00:14:52 uh... alright our first question is from blackout blade blackout how do you guys feel about fat grips and bars uh... that yeah fat yeah that's a little insensitive, don't you think? I like to call them husky.
Starting point is 00:15:09 He asked if we thought it like defeated the purpose, if it's going to fatigue your forms early when you're trying to work like a back or something else out. What we thought. So changing, first and foremost, your grip is really important when it comes to activating the rest of your body. So when you're lifting weights, if you're kind of half gripping the bar, which I see all the time, I see dudes grip the bar with their fingertips when they're curling, because I think they think it works their bicep more, or, you know,
Starting point is 00:15:37 the little thumbless on a lot of lifts. That's funny. You said that. That was just that I was, you know, trolling through what's his name, Stepani. Oh, a friend. Yeah. Our old buddy. And he did a, he did a, he did a, he has a PhD, right? You only fucking tells everybody every five seconds.
Starting point is 00:15:54 He, our buddy Jim. He did a thing on bicep curls like that where he relax grip and he actually teaches that. He teaches a lap pull down with a relax grip and he teaches a bicep curl with just your fingertips. So he teaches that. He teaches a lap pull down with a relaxed grip and he teaches a bicep curl with just your fingertips. So he teaches that. Wow. I know. Yeah. That's just goes right in the the topic that we talked about with the decline. I can't believe he teach that. I mean, I guess just be relaxed about again. Just just just give just give into it.
Starting point is 00:16:23 Don't put too much effort. I know who cares if, who cares if women have a stronger grip than you still be deal. Well, let them pass you up. So you're, yeah, Adam's referring to a study that was just done, because I don't know if that episode of air before this one that shows, yeah, that's that, that showed that millennial men have the same grips strength as women do nowadays.
Starting point is 00:16:40 So anyhow, here's the thing, when you grip the bar strongly, you are going to activate the central nervous system a little better, and you are going to have many times better recruitment patterns. And they've actually demonstrated that when guys use things like wrist straps, where you're using something to help you hold onto the bar, that it does cause some slight changes in muscle recruitment patterns all the way up in the shoulder. So what ends up happening is, and like we've talked about many times in the show, your strength gains tend to be pretty specific to the type of training that you do.
Starting point is 00:17:16 In other words, if I train within a particular range of motion, most of the strength I'm going to gain is going to be within that particular range of motion. Well, if every time I curl a bar or lift a bar, I'm using a weak grip or a partial grip or whatever, that means that that strength isn't gonna translate that well to the real world when I'm trying to lift something, and I have to grip the shit of it. Go grab something that's a different type of an object in the real world and see how you do that without wrist wraps.
Starting point is 00:17:40 Exactly, or try lifting a couch with just your fingertips or just trying to isolate the bicep. So that's number one. Number two, do you build more muscle when you're using these weird grips that, you know, it's the ponies teaching or whatever? No, you don't build more muscle. You build more muscle when you activate your central nervous system better. So have a good strong grip on the bar. Having a good strong grip, I should say, is going to probably contribute to better strength gains. As far as fat grips are concerned, or fat bars, all that's doing is it's changing the
Starting point is 00:18:12 circumference of the bar, so it's training that isometric strength within a different range of motion or a different challenge. He's challenging it further. Correct. Especially with the hand and positioning of that. So, I mean, if anything, it's just a good alternative. You could still grip it hard, you know, but it gets you accustomed to a different type of a, you know, a grip. So I tell you what, probably one of the most under-trained things in the gym, aside from
Starting point is 00:18:41 calves, you don't see a lot of people skipping on calves. You start to see people working legs now. But you see the grip, grip strength is sorely lacking in a lot of people that lift weights and it's because they use these aids that help them grip the bar. And the reality is the truth is look, our bodies evolve to have very strong hands and your hands if you train them properly and don't use these aids with your lifting, they will match the rest of your body in terms of your back strength and pulling strength and all that stuff. Well, you know, it's interesting kind of along this topic, I remember talking to one of
Starting point is 00:19:16 my buddies, Neil about this and he's a big rock climber and he's working with these power lifters and these guys that are putting up a lot of weight. But he had him going through just some basic grip and rock climbing type movements where they're gripping on to different things. They're really challenging their finger strength even and getting a different recruitment pattern through all these various types of challenging grips. And saw a great result from that that translated into their lifts as a result. I love changing my grips. I use chalk. That's about the only grip aid that I'll use. I love things like fat grips. I've never used
Starting point is 00:19:59 fat grips themselves, but I did train for a long time with fat bars, which have bigger circumference. And what I would do is every other workout when I do a curl or a skull crusher over a tricep extension or whatever, I would use these fat bars to train my hands to be stronger in different positions. And that's just it. Even if you don't use something like wrist straps all the time
Starting point is 00:20:22 and you do have a strong grip and you can pull heavy weight with your hands. Your hands will get really strong and get adapted to that circumference of the bar. So changing the circumference of the bar will strengthen your hand in different positions. Another technique that I like to use to strengthen my grip, and I used to do this a lot more when I was grappling a lot,
Starting point is 00:20:42 was I would use towels. So I'd like hang a towel over a bar, and I grip the towel, and then I do pull ups like that. And you wanna talk about a hand workout. Yeah. Man, that rips your hands up quite a bit. Yeah, because you have to keep that grip tight. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:55 Have you guys seen those, I've seen them at gold. I think gold has these now, where you could do pull ups and they look like knobs. They don't look like. They're the rock climbing ones. Yeah, they also have the rock climb. You can bring your fingers over.
Starting point is 00:21:05 So it's a little more focused on that, like a rock climber type of a grip. Yep. I'll use those two. I'll throw those in my work at all time. And I haven't suffered any like loss of muscle in my... Well, on here. I mean, you can get a little more creative with this too. And you know, this is where I kind of look at it as accessory sort of stuff, like with
Starting point is 00:21:22 the kettlebells as well, where we do like a flipped upside down kettlebell. Oh, I'm sorry. Press it and stuff like that. But like just stabilizing the weight like that's really challenging. So you could do stuff like I'll do with where you'll see me doing like carries with it. But now I'm doing it with a flipped up position or I'm pressing it. So that's challenging in itself. Have you tried that Adam? Have you tried pressing a kettlebell upside down? I have. Super hard. It is challenging.
Starting point is 00:21:48 I have a pretty decent grip. I think this is my take on them. I don't use fat grips. Every once in a blue moon, I will do a fat bar deadlift or trap bar deadlift with a shrug. I'll use the fat bar every once in a while. But to be honest with you, it really depends on your goal, right? If you really care about having a super strong grip and that's a priority for you, then those things can help assist it and I think it's important.
Starting point is 00:22:20 Personally, I can grab on to fucking 540 pounds, bear handed, and pull a deadlift off the ground. So for me, I don't need my grip to be any stronger than that. If I can hold on to a bar and pull it off the ground that much weight. Now I know a lot of people who they hit the 300 pounds, they can't even hold on to the bar. So, if you're somebody who's like this where your grip strength is hindering you from going up in your deadlift, then I absolutely could see that this could be a priority for you
Starting point is 00:22:48 or something that you might want to incorporate. But for me, I think just bare handed, grabbing the deadlift bar and continuing to do that, your grip strength will kind of naturally come right with it as you start to progress in your deadlift. I could see people needing to train the grip who've always used wrist straps and then all of a sudden they take them off and it's like, oh shit, I know this is deficit.
Starting point is 00:23:10 Which, you know, I wristwrapped a lot, but I did a lot but then at the same time I did a lot without. So, I was probably 50, 50 with wristwraps in the past. Now I'm rarely ever. If I'm ever doing something with my wrist strap, I have the intention that there's a reason why I'm doing ever if I'm ever doing something with my wrist drop. I have an intention that I'm there's a reason why I'm doing that specifically or I'm messing with my recruitment pattern that's going on in my back and so I want both overhand gripped when I'm doing a deadlift or row or some for some reason like that other than that I'm always bare handed now on on a deadlift or any big heavy movement. So that to me
Starting point is 00:23:41 That's the only reason why I would it would I use fat grips as if I felt like it was hindering my big lifts. If my grip strength was keeping me from doing pull-ups, if it was keeping me from doing something like that, cause better time spent would be deadlifting or doing things like that that are gonna bring up overall. Yeah, this is definitely in addition to. Yeah, it doesn't replace the stuff.
Starting point is 00:24:02 Exactly, and I always like to bring that up because I feel like this is what happens in the fitness industry is like a cool tool like that comes out right fat grips come out and it's brilliant. They got brilliant marketing behind it and there's some truth in science behind it that it can help strengthen your grip and and yes like Sal said grip is very important to activate that central nervous system. So it's a good representation of how strong you are, but you may not be lagging there. You may not be something that's a huge detriment.
Starting point is 00:24:31 If you can, like I said, if you can pull, if you can deadlift and you don't have a problem with the older. A grip isn't your limiting factor. Yeah. If your grip is not your limiting factor, then to me, it's not a, I'm doing other things that I, they'm going to bring my physique up or my body up and strength up more. Well, I want to say this too.
Starting point is 00:24:49 In training your grip, if you're doing holds and isometric type training, the biggest mistake I see people doing is that they train their grip to failure, which you'll actually get negative results. You'll see your grip start to weaken. Train your hands and your grip, like you train anything else. So if I pick up a pair of 120 pound dumbbells and I'm holding them for time, and I'm gonna stop about 15 seconds before I think I'll drop the dumbbell.
Starting point is 00:25:15 That's how you do your sets. You don't do your, you want frequency too. Like I can do this pretty frequently. And the more frequently I train them, the less intense I train them. The grip really responds well to frequency, but again, modify your intensity. If you go too hard on your grip,
Starting point is 00:25:30 you're gonna end up frying yourself, and then the next time you work out, you'll notice you can't even hold on to a cable row. Well, and this goes back to, we talked about, I just did a post recently on farmer walks. So, doing a movement like that, to me, that has so many more carryovers. And in the top of that, it's gonna improve your grip.
Starting point is 00:25:47 So I'm gonna grab some heavy dumbbells or if you have... Re-enforced is good posture too. That's what I'm saying. I mean, to me, if I'm gonna do like, putting fat grips on like dumbbell bicep curls or putting fat grips on a bench press. Right, that is silly.
Starting point is 00:26:00 Yeah, it's just like, why? You know what I'm saying? Unless it was a major limiting factor or I'm in a sport right in rock Clive I'm doing something where that really but if you're just the the average gym goer who's trying to improve their physique improve their strength Unless my grip is like a total thing that it's holding me back from progressing somewhere I'm not even a fucking worry about it. I'm gonna do things like I said farmer walks and deadlifting bear handed and bring it right up So that's my two cents Sarah fit Simmons. How do you find a good trainer? What are the red flags to look for? We've been asked this
Starting point is 00:26:33 before. Yeah, we've talked a little bit about red flags. First one is if they don't listen to mind pump. That's probably the first one. Yeah, you don't hire metal straight up ask him that. Next question. I say, you don't hire them at all straight up ask him that next question I say you know red flags Unprofessionalism If you when you meet your trainer they should come across is very serious and not serious in the sense that they're boring But very like to take their job seriously and they're passionate about what they're doing. That's an easy one If they don't do an assessment. I just say that's the one you normally say first Yeah, if they don't do an assessment and they're say that's the one you normally say first. Yeah, if they don't do an assessment, and they're not asking you lots of questions
Starting point is 00:27:06 and listening to what you want at a fitness, what your goals are, if they're not asking you questions about your history with exercise, injury history, pain, if they're not doing assessment in terms of assessing how you move, they're not looking at your squat, your overhead press, they're not looking at your posture. If they're not doing any of that stuff,
Starting point is 00:27:27 and they just take you into a workout, that is a huge red flag. Or if they do all the talking and they don't listen to any of your contributions, I've seen this all the time, you know, the presentation and you know, sometimes I don't blame the trainer for getting to like into it as far as like trying to overeducate you right away, but like, You know, sometimes I don't blame the trainer for getting to like into it as far as like trying to
Starting point is 00:27:45 overeducate you right away, but like they need to slow down and listen to your needs and figure that out, especially the assessment will help to reveal a lot of this. Yeah, I think it's crazy. I mean, imagine bringing your car to a mechanic and the mechanic doesn't even ask you, what's wrong with your car, doesn't do diagnostics. This is what I do.
Starting point is 00:28:02 There's just my chart. Yeah, oh, I'm gonna change your tires. You know what I mean? When you're going there for something a couple of years different. That's such a great They're just my charts. Yeah, I'm gonna change your tires. You know what I mean? When you're going there for something, a couple of years. That's such a great analogy though. When you think about it, like that's so true of the body.
Starting point is 00:28:10 The body is, we make that analogy all the time that it's like a car and all the different things that are going on within the importance of every little thing being tuned up for the car to run correctly. Yeah, exercise is proper. And if you're looking for a trainer, your car is somewhat broke down, right?
Starting point is 00:28:24 It's not running optimally. And if your're looking for a trainer, your car is somewhat broke down, right? It's not running optimally. And if your trainer just takes you out on the floor and decides to fucking run laps with you without ever testing and finding out where you're at, I think that's a great point. You know, if they also, if they gauge the success of the workout based off of how sore you are, you know, or that's their goal is to how hard they can make you work out.
Starting point is 00:28:48 And some of this is the clients fault. Some clients think that that's what they're looking for. They think they see, and I see this a lot because obviously all the years that we were in the gym and I'd have trainers for me, and they'd be watching a client would be the average person just at watches somebody for three months before they decide to hire a trainer. So, you know, clients are always, you know, watching these trainers and deciding like, if they're gonna hire them or not.
Starting point is 00:29:11 And a lot of them, you know, what's their body language with their clients? That says a lot. A lot of them would come up to me and be like, hey, you know, I watched this Justin trainer and he looks really good and I wanna train with him. And, you know, and then I start asking them questions
Starting point is 00:29:25 like what do this that and a lot of times they're reasoning behind getting a trainer is not like the educational piece or the learning piece it's more like I need someone to kick my ass. Like I need to take my workouts to the next level so I need someone to kick my ass and they think that that's what they're hiring a personal trainer to is to push them to a level that that's what they're hiring a personal trainer to is to push them to a level that they couldn't push themselves to. And unfortunately, I think a lot of trainers have fallen into that trap and it's turned into this competitive thing of who gets their client more sore or who has the craziest workouts. Yeah, I mean, if you train with a trainer for the first session and by the way, most
Starting point is 00:30:02 good trainers will give you an assessment slash free session first so you can kind of test them out. But if you do that first workout and then your sore for three days afterwards, they probably are not a good trainer. You shouldn't even feel sore really at all after your first session because that first session, that trainer doesn't know much about you. Like I don't train clients that intensely until I really know their body until I've done the assessment until I've already trained them for a little while and they've learned
Starting point is 00:30:33 what the appropriate intensity is. Very rarely or never. Well, I take a client and right off the bat, like, oh, good, I'm going to take you through a hard workout. Even if they look fit, even if they've been consistent with the workouts, you don't really know someone until you've trained them a few times. And so if you work with that trainer and you get blasted, that is a trainer
Starting point is 00:30:52 that thinks that hammering people is the way to train people, which is completely wrong. Now, in nothing, you didn't hear a say at all, look at their education. You didn't hear that at all, because I'm assuming that if they're working at a gym and they're a trainer, they're probably already certified. But aside from that, I don't see a huge difference
Starting point is 00:31:14 between trainers with a huge education and those with some education. I see the difference in experience and how they apply that. Well, once you get past all that and like you know they're educated, you know that what they've done in the past with their clients is good and you know, they have a good reputation and you know, the way they presented the information
Starting point is 00:31:33 and all that is good. Now you kind of kind of assess like, can I vibe with this person? Is this like, are they gonna be able to point? You know, there's an energy factor there. Like, I actually, you know, and we kind of both went through this a lot, Sal, recently with kind of taking some of our clients and then, you know, having them keep continuing their work with another
Starting point is 00:31:54 trainer. And so I had to kind of think about these things like who would match well with a certain personality. And because you're thinking a long term, you know, you're not thinking about, okay, this is going be like a month of grinding it out and we'll get you good quality results, whatever. No, it's like, this person's pretty chill and like he's got a good head on his shoulders, you know, but he does a lot of very cool things with his clients that, you know,
Starting point is 00:32:19 it's, he takes a lot more time on the technique and the form and he really dives into that and gets really meticulous. And then my Matt's somebody, yeah, versus somebody that's looking for more of the macro kind of workout where everything is like, you know, like a little bit more high energy and they're getting their butt kicked a little bit. That's a very good point. It's some of this falls back on you as the client and knowing what you're looking for, right? Because unfortunately, it's hard to find, you're not gonna find a salad just in everywhere, right?
Starting point is 00:32:54 So it's rare. It's rare to come around someone who is that well-rounded, that experience, that educated, that funny, that good-looking, that fit, all those things. You're going, you're right. Right. It is, all those things. You're going, you're going. Right. It is. It's rare. So, you know, and a lot of trainers tend to have specialties, you know, something that
Starting point is 00:33:11 are store strengths, you know, that they're really good with the nutrition piece, or they're really good with, you know, mobility and flexibility. They're really good with strength training or, you know, biomechanics. Like, so really assessing yourself and understanding where you lack the most knowledge and where you think you could use the most help and being okay with just directly asking that and looking for that trainer. So let's say, because I don't know Sarah, well enough to know her past fitness knowledge, but maybe you feel really confident in the gym, like you as far as your mechanics, you have good form, maybe you were an athlete, you've been
Starting point is 00:33:43 training for a long time. So mechanics you know, mechanics aren't like something you need somebody to be critiquing you. You've got good form already, you've never been injured, you feel solid about that. But you don't know, maybe know much about program design and you don't know how to organize the exercises and the importance of how they should go and, you know, separating them for rest and things like that.
Starting point is 00:34:02 So, you know, maybe you need that or maybe you're just completely lost when it comes to nutrition and you feel like, okay, I need somebody who really, really understands nutrition. So I'm gonna be asking those type of questions and you're gonna know when you start asking questions about nutrition if the trainer knows what they're talking about or not because if they're looking back at you
Starting point is 00:34:19 like a deer in the head like that. You try to find like their passion, what they're really passionate about because there are trainers that specifically are passionate about nutrition or cooking stuff for their clients or getting them into that sort of mentality versus, you know, or somebody that likes to go outside and do cardiovascular stuff with you, you know, and that might vibe with you. The bottom line is this, a good trainer will make you feel better, not feel worse. Okay, notice I didn't say, we'll make you lose weight, we'll make you feel better, not feel worse. Okay, notice I didn't say we'll make
Starting point is 00:34:46 you lose weight, we'll make you build muscle, we'll make you perform, you know, it sounds a little arbitrary, don't you? Well, no, it's not because here's the thing. A lot of the weight loss you're going to get has to do with you, not your trainer, it's your diet. Strength gain, definitely there's program design and training and all that stuff. But at the end of the day, how do you feel after your workout? Are you feeling healthier? Do you feel more energy? Do you feel stronger?
Starting point is 00:35:11 Do you feel good? Because I see a lot of people train with trainers who beat them up and the scales going down and everything, but they feel shit, they feel tired, they feel beat up. They start to dread coming in to work out. They start to cancel their workouts because, oh, my shoulder's a little sore, I'm gonna miss my workout today because he's gonna beat me up.
Starting point is 00:35:29 Versus, I'm gonna call my trainer and see if I can meet with them because my shoulder hurts and they can fix it. The only favorite thing is every time Salsa's feel, he kind of shrugs up because, feel, it's my favorite. He can't see it because of the radio. I feel like that's,
Starting point is 00:35:44 it's a little too vague for me because I think most people when you go from eating like shit and not working out to hiring a trainer, eating better and working out, even if it's not the best way or appropriately, it's still better than how you felt maybe. So I don't, I mean, I don't find, I don't find that as a huge red,
Starting point is 00:36:04 I think you're right. I think you're right as far as like, if you feel like shit, that's definitely a good sign. How many times have you gotten the client? Let me ask you this, how many times have you had a client that or witnessed the client work with someone and after about two or three months of training with them, you could just don't feel good, you could tell.
Starting point is 00:36:19 They're being down in there. Yeah, okay, so I agree with you that it's a red flag if you feel it. That's huge, but to me that's a common one, unfortunately. Yeah, you're right. But I think there's other things too that are, you know, you've got to look out for too that that's not the only indicator is that, oh, you know, just because you've, because to me, I feel like you could be feeling good and thinking you're on the right track with this guy or girl and you're really not.
Starting point is 00:36:43 Well, that's a good point. You could just be better off than you were. Yeah, exactly. But not where you could be. Because if you get a client who, like I said, is eating shitty food is not training. And then all of a sudden they get a trainer. Even the trainer is not a good trainer. And he's kicking their butt in the gym.
Starting point is 00:36:56 Yeah, they're having a hard time in the gym when they leave. They're like, wow, my energy's up. I feel like I'm sleeping better. I feel stronger. These are all things that could happen and not have great programming, have a trainer who knows what the fuck they're doing. So there's other indications besides that, I think that sounds right, if you feel like shit, but to me, I feel like that's kind of obvious, right?
Starting point is 00:37:15 If you don't, because working out should be a good thing. You should feel good. You should leave the gym and feel like, oh, I feel good. You should feel increased energy levels. You should be sleeping better. You shouldn't feel miserable. So to me, that's obvious, it's the other ones that are tough.
Starting point is 00:37:29 And I think a lot of that, it's a relationship, right? So think of it like that, this is a relationship, you are getting into a relationship with a trainer. Just like you were doing it. Literally, you're gonna see this person for years, for two hours a week, maybe devoted time to that person. So it's a relationship. So just like any other relationship,
Starting point is 00:37:49 I think it's important before anybody dates or anybody gets with another person that you need to learn about yourself. And believe it or not, that's a huge issue with most relationships out there. Most motherfuckers don't know themselves well enough and then they put themselves in a relationship with someone they have no business with.
Starting point is 00:38:04 So learning what you really need and figuring out what it is you're looking for, I think should be your priority one. Then when you feel confident that, hey, I know what I need, I know what I'm looking for. Then you go out and you look for it. So don't just, don't bang the first one you run into, you know? She's, yeah. Yeah. I will look sad too. Yeah, yeah
Starting point is 00:38:29 Trying to have a comeback I'm gonna let that one go move it along Doug. All right justice 2 5 5 5 is asking about training for performance while building a physique So this is so this is cool because somewhere along the lines people thought, you know, confused, performing better, me, you know, like, okay, you can perform better, but you're not going to look as good, or you can train to look a certain way, but you're not going to perform as good. And they all forgot about bow jacks and exactly as a fucking brick house. I'll tell you what, I'm going to use myself as an example.
Starting point is 00:39:03 I've recently been training much more for performance than ever before, and not just strength, I'm always trained for strength, but I'm doing a lot of different stuff. I'm doing a lot of, you know, I work out, now we go to a gym that's got turf. So I'm doing a lot of sled,
Starting point is 00:39:18 pushes and pulls and, you know, tire work, and I'm doing a lot more kettlebell work, and kettlebell holds, and walking while doing certain holds. I'm doing a lot more kettlebell work and kettlebell holds and walking while doing certain holds. I'm doing more explosive type movement. I've eliminated my weight belt. My, I don't wear squat shoes anymore. I'm working on mobility.
Starting point is 00:39:34 And number one, my performance has gone through the roof. I feel better, I can move better. I feel more like an athlete. My strength is good, everything's great. On the other side of it, I look, my body is looking really fucking good. Like I noticed improvements in it. I haven't seen any decline at all.
Starting point is 00:39:51 If anything, like I said, I feel like I'm looking better. And in fact, it's actually easier for me to stay lean training this way. Even though I'm doing far less cardio than I did before, I'm not doing the steady state cardio I was doing before. I'm doing more of the interval stuff and doing some of this other workouts and it's- Well, I feel like being kind of in the corner of the camp of the athlete for so long that the mentality there is like, you know, it's so performance driven, but as a result, you look better. Like, this is one of those things you kind of go back and you reflect and you're like,
Starting point is 00:40:21 result you look better. Like this is one of those things you kind of go back and you reflect and you're like, damn dude, look at my body, you know, in that phase of training that I was doing, you know, a long time ago. And I just remember like the best my body ever looked was when I was like heavy into like just performance training and, you know, just time day in and day out, like really being explosive
Starting point is 00:40:45 and I mean, it really transformed my body. And so there's something to be said for that, but then also taking that element and then focusing a little bit more on the aesthetic. Hey, you know what, I'm gonna defer this to Adam because he made a great point the other day. When we were, I don't remember what we were doing, we were walking somewhere or whatever
Starting point is 00:41:03 and you were talking about how you've been having, like, pain and some of your joints because you had focused so much on barbell performance strength work, right? And you had kind of moved away from some of the bodybuilding kind of stuff, you know, done properly. And now you're noticing your joints
Starting point is 00:41:21 are talking to you a little bit. I mean, you can kind of go over that a little bit. Yeah, you know, this is, and this is definitely my wheelhouse because if you were to take and dissect what maps or what program I'm running right now, it would be like if maps black and maps green had a baby. So if Adam and Justin had a baby. Yeah, that's kind of what, what, how I train,
Starting point is 00:41:47 but sex on a pretty regular basis. And for a while there, it's probably what would have to happen. When I got done with competing, I was very heavy into maps in a ball. I was doing a lot of red. And I, and a lot of that was because I was chasing PRs. I was getting competitive with Sal.
Starting point is 00:42:03 I was really getting into my heavy deadlift and squatting and a lot of barbell and overhead pressing, a lot, a lot of barbell movements. And I got rid of a lot of my, you know, maps black, aesthetic type training and got rid of a bodybuilder-ish type of movements. And I suffered. You know, I started to get a lot of imbalances. You know, when you move, when you move weight on a barbell, it's, it's not always the natural pathway that your joint wants to move. And so it started to create deviations because of how much of it I was doing and how little
Starting point is 00:42:35 of everything else I was doing. This is always points to the fact that you get it, you know, you got to train in multiple modalities. Yes, so even us, we even get stuck in shit because we start to like it so much, right? So that being said, like, okay, so training for promise or building a physique, first, this is how I attack my programming or how I look at my lifts right now is,
Starting point is 00:42:56 whatever my current priority of adaptation is, is the bulk or the meat of this. So if I care more about aesthetics, which I tend to, because that's my world, I'm gonna have Maps Black is the foundation of what I'm doing, but I'm going to integrate Maps Mobility or Maps Green into my Black.
Starting point is 00:43:19 And the way I do that is it's my focus and my mobility sessions are kind of blended together. So I still have them so funny you're saying this right now. Why? Because that's exactly what I'm doing. Oh, is it? That's exactly how I've been doing. I've been focused mobility sessions basically. Yep. And I love it. And this is probably how I train the most consistently like this. And to me, when I stop one or the other, I can tell, I
Starting point is 00:43:46 one definitely falls off if I become so performance. And this is why I think, I know the boys just said like, you know, they took care of telling you that, you know, you can be performance driven and look fucking good, you know, it's just bottom line. You can be total athlete guy and have a good looking physique, but it isn't the same adaptation process if you're solely focused on aesthetics like I do. So there is a give and take a little bit still. You know, if you compare to guy who all he did was train like an athlete in performance base
Starting point is 00:44:17 and you compared him to someone like me who's like training for a show, well, I'm gonna bring a better looking physique to the stage every fucking time because I'm training that way. That being said, you know, when you decide whatever one it is, more of a priority, I think that still becomes a majority of what you're doing with the new learning to integrate. So if you're now in the flip, if you're a performance guy, so you're an athlete, but
Starting point is 00:44:39 you're also wanting to do aesthetics, I would do the reverse of that, you know, maps mobility, maps green is going to be kind of a priority for me, and then I'm going to integrate some of the focus sessions. Well, I'll tell you what, which is probably what I would assume. Probably I've been doing that actually. I was going to say how that's probably Justin is probably the flip. You see me the only time you'll see me do curls would be like on a focus session day or something like that. Yeah, I'll go this far even. So let's say you're an athlete and in your off season and in three months, four months, you want to perform your sport really well.
Starting point is 00:45:09 Well, then you do maps performance. You just follow it 100%. Let's say you're a person that wants to look super good for the beach or you're gonna be on a stage in three months or whatever. Then you do maps performance. I'm excuse me, maps aesthetic or maps black. Now, I have another thing to propose you.
Starting point is 00:45:26 Let's say you're like the average listener. I do. Let's say you're the average person who just always wants to look good and perform good and wants longevity, wants to feel good, look good and continue to improve on all parameters for most of their life, first, for as long as they possibly can. Then your best bet, no matter what, I don't give a shit what your goal is, your best bet is to change your focus, to go from a map's aesthetic to a map performance,
Starting point is 00:45:52 to back to aesthetic, or maybe even a map's metabolic. That's probably at the end of the day if we were to compare long term, if I was to take Adam and compare him to his twin brother and take them over three year period and have one guy who just focused on Esthetic and one guy who's alternated in the short term they might have less of the aesthetic results over three months or four month period Put over one two three years. I bet you the guy that did the moving around. Oh, 100 would perform better and look better
Starting point is 00:46:19 100% you would have all of it 100% you're right right there And that's the hardest part about answering a question like this because I don't know What justice is like if he's got he or she I don't know if it's a he or she if they have a specific thing within the next three months in mind Or they're just seeing saying this in general Yeah, if you're saying this in general the best thing you could possibly do is to to phase through all the programs Right you that person is gonna get the the most overall benefits over a long period of time. And maybe all you would do is revisit the one that's more of a priority than the rest of them, right? So if-
Starting point is 00:46:55 Right, one's going to stand out. You're going to see your body respond a bit. Like, if you haven't done mobility in, like, ever, you know, which is a pretty high majority of people that listen, you know, that's gonna, that's gonna look like something, oh, I gotta incorporate this a lot more going forward even in the other programs, however, you know, the vice versa, somebody's always in performance, you know,
Starting point is 00:47:17 and they're doing these other lifts that stand out, you know, that those are the kinds of things you need to pay attention to. Well, I mean, you can see in my body, I mean, recently you can you can see in my body, I mean, recently, you can see the changes in my body, over the last, just the last month, from incorporating more of the mobility stuff
Starting point is 00:47:33 and kind of mixing it a little, okay, and luckily, I'm a really good trainer. I know how to program well, so I can take things and modify them to my body. And I can see the change, I can definitely feel the change, I can definitely perform differently and better,. And I can see the change. I can definitely feel the change. I can definitely perform differently and better. But I can even see the difference. And it's pretty mind blowing. I'll tell you what, if you're looking for that type of long term success, then it's not
Starting point is 00:47:55 about doing one thing. It's about doing everything and allowing your body to progress in each of these parameters. And that's what's gonna give you that longevity and give you the body that looks the best at the same time. So the best thing for that is our, you know, our RGB bundle, which we still have, right? Mymplummedia.com. Another shameless plug. Good job, Seth.
Starting point is 00:48:17 Good job, Seth. You're welcome. I've always got to be the asshole salesman now. Yeah. Mike Plunare is asking, what's up with all the people wearing mouthpieces? Hey, that's my boy Mikey from is that from a South OTF right?
Starting point is 00:48:29 I tried good guy. Give me like are we talking about like grills, you know, like are they still do the gold teeth? No, this is it you this is These are like the ones that like it's like literally in your mouth And you you bite on it while you lift weights or it puts your your john So there's a position you don't know about this just. No, man. Oh wow. This is really popular And it's even it's more popular now for this it's a Some dentist I'm sure no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no same guy who wears the elevation mask. Here we go. It's from the MMA world, right? It's tough. I mean, think about that from an MMA perspective.
Starting point is 00:49:06 It's because it's harder to breathe. Exactly. So you need to train, get a train with the way you fight. And I don't know if you guys have it on I have. If you've boxed before, I'll never forget the very first time that I got into a ring and I started boxing. The hardest part was breathing with the mouthpiece. Keeping it in.
Starting point is 00:49:22 Oh, yeah. I was drooling all over myself and I was like, I know that it's so funny. Yeah, after one round I was like, okay, I don't even, I don't even want to fight you with the mouthpiece because I feel like I'm so focused on it. I know there's my teeth. Yeah, right?
Starting point is 00:49:34 So it started from them, right? And there's the science behind that is if you're a fighter and you've got to wear a mouthpiece in whatever type of fighting you're into, then it does have some serious reasons. The frequency is a good idea. Then you should train with your mouthpiece. Yes, excellent.
Starting point is 00:49:51 Get used to breathing with it in all the time. The other piece of the science that would go with would be activating the central nervous system, would be to bite down as hard as you possibly can on there. So if you got a power lift or maybe, so somebody... But you're doing heavy singles. Yes. I mean, you better be lifted. I mean, if you have a mouthpiece, if you have a mouthpiece in there and you're doing cable chest flies and you're not a powerlifter and you're not a MMA fighter, you're a douchebag. That's, I mean, just I'm just going to come out there. You're a shreds wrap. Yeah, because it has its probably. It has its place and
Starting point is 00:50:22 allegedly for sure guys, for sure can do it and should do it if you are trying to train that for your fighting or something like that, or if you're a player. Now, aside from that, I can see another use for this. Oh, what else? You know, when you lift weights, a lot of guys, a lot of people grind their teeth or bite down hard in a natural way, and you can cause problems in your jaw.
Starting point is 00:50:46 You can develop issues like, well, this is why I brought up the dentist, because yeah, he's the same one that like told me that, because I'm already a teeth grinder, and I have to wear a mouthpiece when I go to sleep, but you ask me to, you lift heavy weights, and I'm like, I don't like do that, I don't grip my teeth like that,
Starting point is 00:51:03 and like clamp down like that. Yeah, some people do though, and you can develop problems through the jaw, I don't like do that. I don't grip my teeth like that and like clamp down like that. Yeah. Some people do though. Yeah. And you can develop problems through the jaw. And a lot of times it'll show up and it won't be pain in your jaw. You won't even feel your jaw. You'll feel it in your neck.
Starting point is 00:51:15 You'll have headaches. Yeah. Dizziness. People will get dizziness from it sometimes. I've had clients who've gotten, you know, worn mouthpieces when they sleep and stuff like that. And then noticed that their vertigo, you know, worn mouthpieces when they sleep and stuff like that and then noticed that their vertigo, you know, went away because it's all kind of connected.
Starting point is 00:51:29 So I can see that small minority of people needing it, but if you're just the average person, lift them weights in the gym and you're not doing like heavy singles and you're not some MMA athlete, I don't know. I can think of a lot of better ways to spend, you know, five or 10 bucks than on this piece of plastic and not. Yeah, it's almost, it's like I said, it's pretty close to spend five or 10 bucks and on this piece of plastic.
Starting point is 00:51:45 Yeah, it's almost, it's like I said, it's pretty close to the same as the elevation master. I don't know, elevation master. Yeah, it is worse. You're right. It's like, it's like that, but I haven't seen any of those like breeze no strips anymore. Ever since like people kind of debunked that whole thing. Oh, yeah, these are opening the airway. There's always something. Here's the thing.. Some kind of accessory. As soon as, as soon as a fucking popular athlete, you know, where's a fucking bracelet or a necklace,
Starting point is 00:52:10 like those stupid ones of baseball players are wearing, like, ooh, a balance is your energy. And I see kids wearing them. I want to, you know, it makes me pitch better. So stupid. You know what you're gonna see now? You're gonna see people with frickin' go to get cupping now, because have you seen the Olympics?
Starting point is 00:52:24 All the swimmers getting cupping done right now I'm not I'm not ragging on cupping there is some evidence for certain things that it may help with again we're splitting hairs but you're gonna see every day people keywords certain yeah they're gonna have you know they're gonna walk around with hikis all of themselves now because they're gonna go to a business meeting and they need to yeah I'm trying to piss off all the time medicine people right now but my point, yeah, I'm trying to piss off all the things that it's the people right now. But my point is not that I'm talking shit about cupping necessarily, but it's just,
Starting point is 00:52:48 soon as a pro athlete does something, everybody wants to start doing that. Which is like I said, with the mouthpiece on it. It does kind of like Adam's penis pump. At the, let me see. You got us. Those cupping things. Yeah. But speaking of that, can you return that to me, please?
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