Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 353: The Decline of the Modern Male Part 2

Episode Date: August 25, 2016

Testosterone is falling, men's grip strength is declining, what is happening to the modern man? One of the first Mind Pump episodes tacked this issue and in this episode, Sal, Adam & Justin dig deeper... for answers. Have Sal, Adam & Justin personally train you with a new video on our new YouTube channel, Mind Pump TV. Be sure to Subscribe for updates. Get MAPS Anabolic, MAPS Performance, MAPS Aesthetic and the Butt Builder Blueprint (The RGB Super Bundle) packaged together at a substantial DISCOUNT at www.mindpumpmedia.com. Get your Kimera Koffee, Mind Pump's first official sponsor, at www.kimerakoffee.com, code "mindpump" for 10% off! Please subscribe, rate and review this show! Each week our favorite reviewers are announced on the show and sent Mind Pump T-shirts!

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Starting point is 00:00:00 And now, the moment you've all been waiting for mine boom. It's the Mind Pump TV. It's on YouTube. Here, here, this is what you have to do. This is what you have to do. Co-crashing. In about two seconds, I want you to push pause on this podcast. Go to your YouTube app on your phone.
Starting point is 00:00:17 Look for Mind Pump TV. Subscribe to our YouTube channel. It will blow your brains out of your face. Put your hands around your eyes. If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. Mind, pop, mind, pop with your hosts. Salta Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. We're going to start this episode with some meditation real quick. Ready? episode with some you better tell them some meditation real quick ready
Starting point is 00:00:55 Okay, we're done you guys feel that shit sure god damn it electric bolts feels like nothing I think we did it wrong. Oh Doug what is salsa? I got some out of it. I feel like he's I was born that way Yeah, he was born. Yeah, he sounds he sounds I'll turn like that. I'll turn him down for you. I'll turn him, turn him fucking down. Yeah, it hurts my ear, makes my ears bleed. But I'm that way. You know what else makes your ears bleed? Your weiner in them. Whoa. Wow, that's weird.
Starting point is 00:01:13 I did not expect him to go there. It's like a Q-tip. That's something we keep between the two of us. Hey, you better tell your fans they need to hurry up and pick up a, yeah, your fans. Your me poo shirt because it's almost sold out. Oh, dude, you're tell your fans they need to hurry up and pick up your fans. Your me poo shirt because it's almost. Oh, dude, you're talking about the elements out of those. The elements shirt, the one that looks.
Starting point is 00:01:31 Salkamy. The Salkamy. It's actually probably the best looking shirt we have. I would say that took you a long time to figure. Well, I would say that. I was gonna say something more offensive to you guys. But yeah, probably the most offensive. It's a beautiful shirt.
Starting point is 00:01:49 I PR three times in that shirt, the first time I wore it. So wait till we come out with ours. Yeah. That's why I did his first. What a fly off the shelf. What a pompous laugh that was. What a pompous conceded laugh that was. It's called confidence.
Starting point is 00:02:03 Do it again. God damn it. What a dick. What a dick. Yeah, what a pompous conceded laugh that was called confidence do it again What a dick. What a dick. Hey, did you start Justin? Did you start watching period? The Netflix original series I told you to yes, I did Like it. What's it called again? The last chance oh is this the one about the about sports about sports. Yeah, boring College totally lost you there is boring. Yeah, nobody sports. Yeah, boring, me, college. Totally lost you there. It's boring. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:27 Nobody cares. He's, so what is this? Nobody cares about that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Did you guys see that post on the forum by, I won't use her last name. I think her name is Sandra.
Starting point is 00:02:37 She gets her C-reactive protein levels tested, which is an inflammatory marker. Oh, say that again. She gets her what tested? C-reactive protein. It's an inflammatory marker. Oh, say that again, she gets her what tested? Sea reactive protein. It's an inflammatory marker in the blood. So high levels of inflammatory markers are demonstrating now to be stronger indicators of things like heart attack and chronic disease, because you'll have people who've got great cholesterol, great blood, pretty much all these wonderful things have high inflammatory
Starting point is 00:03:03 markers, and then they will, they'll have problems. And so now they're finding that that's the thing you need to look out for anyhow. Hers always, no matter what she did, always measured high, like 3.5 or 3.0 or higher. And recently she got them tested and they were low, 0.25, the only thing she changed
Starting point is 00:03:24 was that she started incorporating intermittent fasting. Mm. Oh, wow. That's awesome. Yes, and makes perfect sense because fasting has been shown to be extremely anti-inflammatory. And on the flip side, I know I'm going to piss off
Starting point is 00:03:37 a lot of people, but eating super frequently, there is some, and it's not great evidence yet. I think we're going gonna come out with more evidence to demonstrate this, but eating too frequently may be pro-inflammatory. Isn't that crazy since that's the fitness community for so long has been preaching the opposite, you know? It's pretty ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:03:56 We've been telling people for so long, like, you need to eat some more. You can starve your body. Lots of small meals, lots of small meals. Yeah, those are gonna shrink. Spooked, stoked to fire. Ridiculous. Do I still sound loud? No, you sound all right. Lots of small meals. Yeah, lots of drinks. A spooked, stoked to fire. Ridiculous. Do I still sound loud?
Starting point is 00:04:06 No, you sound all right. I sound OK now. Doug, how do I sound, Doug? I think he's fixed it. You sound fantastic. He can't. He can't fix the Kermit sound. I mean, he can either turn it up or down,
Starting point is 00:04:16 but he just can't. Yeah. Why are you guys always talking to me? He's helping me. So he changed that. So do you guys remember the episode we recorded? Oh, I was probably one of our first episodes. I don't remember the name of it. The decline of the alpha male. Was that the name of that episode? I'm declining the modern man. Was it decline? What was it? Doug? I made a great name.
Starting point is 00:04:36 Doug's gonna look it up. I will look it up. Yeah, because it was one of our first episodes. Us the producer. We should do it. We should do an episode that's called Ask the producer. We should, I think that's every episode. Another time. Yeah. So anyhow, this. Shot down. This episode that we had recorded was based on the study
Starting point is 00:04:55 that, and the several studies, now this is well documented, that men's testosterone levels generally across the board have been declining over the last five or six decades. All because of Twitter. And it's actually pretty alarming. It's very alarming. Like an 18 year old today will have the testosterone level of like a 40 year old man in the 1950s.
Starting point is 00:05:17 So we talked about that in that episode. We talked on our way to all becoming women. Yeah, it was called the decline of the modern male. Very good. Oh, you almost had a right. You said, man, yeah, almost had a right. Damn, that would have been one time you were right now is wrong. So close at him. I think there's been more than one to moving along. That time you said, don't put your finger in there. Yeah. So anyhow, the reason why I'm touching on that again is because another study just came out that
Starting point is 00:05:45 tested men's or these are millennial. So they tested men between the ages of 18 to like 30, I think it was. And they were testing their grip strength. Now, a lot of people ask why grip strength? It's actually a good question. Grip strength is actually a very good indicator of overall strength when you're testing someone. So you could test someone's, you know,
Starting point is 00:06:10 you could do all kinds of different movements, but they require it's much more complex, like testing people's squats, like some people might not have a good squat or whatever, but that doesn't necessarily mean that they're, you know, demonstrate, you know, what kind of overall strength, the grip for whatever reason is a very good indicator or general indicator of
Starting point is 00:06:26 overall strength on a person. So here's what they found, okay, pretty scary stuff. First of all 18 year old today has the grip strength of something like a 50 or 60 year old way back in the 50s and 60s. A Millennial man today has the same, generally roughly the same grip strength as a millennial woman today does. Wow. Watch your pussy.
Starting point is 00:06:52 Ooh. Hey. A bunch of pussy. Now, the nerve. Hide behind those beards. So that's all about goddamn skinny jeans. Well, two things of a bitch. Two things have happened.
Starting point is 00:07:02 One, millennial women have a little bit higher grip strength than their forefathers, foremothers, I should say. Not much, just a little bit stronger. This is probably due to the fact that women today are typically, they're encouraged to play sports and be more active than women back then. I was considered, there's probably a combination of two things going on there. The decline in increase. Yeah, right. This total, like, and pull on the finger. It's a little bit two things going on there. Declined and increased. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:07:25 This, this total like, and pull on the thing going on. It's a, it's a little bit stronger, a little bit, but here's where the real difference is. A man in 1985, wasn't even that fucking lung to go by the way. I'm not talking 1950. 1985, a man's grip would measure about 117 pounds on average.
Starting point is 00:07:42 Today, 98 pounds. That's a huge difference in a very short period of time. Yeah, what is that about? 30% decrease. It is a huge, yeah, it's pretty embarrassing, I would say. You're looking at a dramatic decline in overall manliness. Gotta get them farmer walks in. Good God.
Starting point is 00:08:03 Like son of a bitch. Yeah, what do you guys think that's do do? Well, I think I think it's a do do do do you think that's a do do do? It's do do or not. I think there's a combination of things that are happening there like we said the I think I mean Thanks to CrossFit. I think women are becoming extremely strong. I mean you have women that like We've probably tested like Ronda Rousey and through the whole like fuck it all up off No, but see the women's grip strength Wasn't that much more.
Starting point is 00:08:26 It was slight. I don't remember what the number was, but it was slightly more. Really the difference was the hell men have dropped so much. Okay, well, I would like to. I didn't see the study. So I would like to. I read the article, but I remember seeing this part where it does it talk about the increase for you.
Starting point is 00:08:40 Tell me what women today in the test score at 98 pounds and their four mothers scored at about 80. So they're about 18 pounds stronger today, but man or something like 30 pounds. We call you. So that's a big difference. So it was an, it's an increase by 10% on women in a decrease by 30% on men. So or pounds. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:09:00 Well, no, I just did the percent. Oh, sir. My bad. Yeah. So you guys work out the math. I think that's a little bit, I mean, give or take. I'm not right on the dot, but I mean, it's about 10 and 30%. So that's a better indicator than saying actual pounds. So women, women have increased by 10% and decreased by about 30%. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:18 That's, um, that's really sad, man. That's so, that's, uh, I mean, we've kind of, I blame the media. Well, first of all, let's, let's give credit. Let's say some good things here about women being a little stronger today. That's great. I think it's fantastic that the attitudes towards being athletic or physically active towards women
Starting point is 00:09:35 has changed to the point where now women are encouraged to be exercised at the point. Let's not squelch men that are strong and have testosterone. Right. Well, it might be a good thing for people like us. Like, we're just going to stand out. I wonder if rolls are reversing with spousal abuse.
Starting point is 00:09:52 You think, you think more men are getting their ass kicked. I was just waiting for that. I'll be in trust with Lionel. You think more men are getting it. Maybe it's equal now. I don't know. I would love to see that. I'd love to see that study right now.
Starting point is 00:10:03 But so what's funny is this decline in strength. She wouldn't let me go. Well, so this decline in strength. It's seen a lot in the younger generation, not so much in men who are 40 and 50, but much more in the younger generation. That's where you see this decline in strength and this pretty dramatic decline in testosterone.
Starting point is 00:10:22 So it's really these millennials that are just these millennia. It's pretty much all this anti-bullying campaign probably. It's the music too, man. Have you heard this like music? I almost said this pussy has me as well. I'm sorry, but I can't stand it. It is so like low energy and like I can't listen to radio. Like what happened to punk rock and fucking metal and rock and roll and shit that had balls. You know what though? I'm going to say this though, dude. Remember this test was comparing guys today versus guys in 1985.
Starting point is 00:11:00 There was some pretty pussy music in 1985 too, bro. You had fair enough. You know what I'm saying? Bobby Brown. Yeah, the cure. Yeah, exactly. Oh, man, it's pretty. Yeah, I think it's music that's got.
Starting point is 00:11:15 Yeah, I thought that was a good point. Well, I feel like we went, you know, we're super ultra sensitive now. You could argue that there's some good things that have came of course. Yeah, and it's been progressive on certain levels, but also regressive as far as, you know, a savage strength. Who's complaining the most about that, by the way?
Starting point is 00:11:35 You know who's making the most complaint about men's, men becoming less quote unquote, manly, it's women. It's not guys that are complaining about it. I, yeah. So I made a post on Instagram about this, this particular study. And most of my comments were women who were saying like, oh, you know, this is so irritating. I can't find a man and they're so this and that. And it's like, whoa, yeah. Well, you can't, I mean, what, what are you defining as a man now? That's why I want to. Yeah, I don't, I don't, I don. Yeah, I don't know, but here's what I'm thinking, because in 1985, guys maybe they were stronger
Starting point is 00:12:10 than they are now, but they were weaker than people in 1965. So that decline started before 1985. The testosterone levels, that since we've been measuring have been declining since the 1950s. It's interesting to me. And I wonder if... Well, what's your evolutionary theory here on this?
Starting point is 00:12:28 I mean, you can't just be the fucking music. You can't just be, I'd just... No, I... I'd just be, I'd just be, there's gotta be more to this. That's like an evolutionary purpose, what we would need less testosterone.
Starting point is 00:12:38 Well, that's what I'm thinking, because I'm wondering if the music and the style and all that stuff isn't causing it, but that is more of a reflection. There you go. That's it. Yeah, I think you're right. And the thing is, we don't have to kill stuff anymore.
Starting point is 00:12:51 There's no real reason to be overly strong. As long as you have a really good job and you can provide, obviously that's still something that is sort of a man role. Obviously, that's changed because we could be a provider. But yeah, that's something that we used to have is like, okay, you're the provider. You go out there, you get it done, you bring it home, and now that's changed. That's all. I think what might have happened because the staff from levels are pretty heavily influenced
Starting point is 00:13:23 by lifestyle, very heavily influenced. So your testosterone levels can change based on your lifestyle and based on your mood and your attitude. They've measured men's testosterone levels going up after winning a football game, going down after losing one or, you know, up after having a good business meeting or down after having a, you know, getting fired, you know, put a man in a particular situation where more testosterone would give him an advantage and you will generally studies will point. It's not conclusive, but we'll point to that testosterone levels will start to rise as
Starting point is 00:13:58 it becomes more beneficial. Now, let's look at society. Let's look at society from, let's say the early 1900s till today. It's dramatically safer in the world. It just is, especially in modern societies. You can walk around and in most cities, for the most part, you're probably not going to get assaulted. You're not going to get robbed. No one's going to fight you. No one's going to steal from you. Which is ironic, because that's not the message you're hearing from politicians. No, no, the reality is it's so dangerous.
Starting point is 00:14:28 No, the reality is it's far safer today than even 20 years ago. You don't, women make up a huge part of the workforce. They actually make a larger part of the people in rolling in college. My prediction is women will out earn men, uh, with probably within the next 20 to 30 years. Um, so I think the role of testosterone, I thought the studies already show that, I mean, of course, when depending on who you're listening to, they're going to sway it in their favor, uh, but the real studies, if you actually separate job title for job title, it's damn near even already. Right now it's damn near even, but I would venture to say because and I'm only using this
Starting point is 00:15:07 I'm just predicting based off of education women are seeking out More education than men will does that mean that they will get paid more in the future? I don't know, but they've already pretty much even things. You elaborate though on what I just say because I know you know The study. I don't remember the study that talked about this. Well, politicians will come out and say that women make less per hour work to whatever the men will, but when you analyze the data, when economists go through and actually break down the data
Starting point is 00:15:36 and look at job-for-job experience, for experience, and compare apples to apples, it's actually identical. It's actually pretty much identical. And for people who disagree, you got to consider this. Businesses, number one goal is to make money and profit. And if they could hire people for cheaper, that's all they would hire.
Starting point is 00:15:55 So if women did the same work for less money, then you would notice that men would be super unemployed and only companies would just hire women. Because at the end of the day, that's the bottom line. So there's your evidence if you don't want to have to break down all those statistics. Nonetheless, my point is testosterone, and if you look, okay, so check this out. If you look at the fetus in the womb, we all start out the same. It's a flood of testosterone that turns that fetus into a male.
Starting point is 00:16:22 If it doesn't get that flood of testosterone, it's female and of course the chromosomes determine that, but testosterone seems to be a hormone that was evolutionary. In other words, it's something that had some kind of a role. You need to have this testosterone so you can be aggressive, so you can be territorial, so you could hunt, so you could provide this food or whatever. And since that's not needed anymore,
Starting point is 00:16:46 are we evolving into this homogenous species? We're gonna be like a kindle. Like no dick. That's what I mean. That's what it's gonna be. That's what I'm saying, man. But it's like, you see, oh, you know, here's some other statistics.
Starting point is 00:17:03 Like erectile dysfunction, okay? Oh, that's a crazy one dude erectile dysfunction is on a steep rise in one age category of men 18 to 25 What? Yes, do you do you know if you went back to the eye? I attribute that to for sure The technology now the fact that you can be a 17 year old boy and you can watch pornography on your phone. Like that, it was not-
Starting point is 00:17:30 Or overstimulated. Yes, overstimulation. I mean, that's one of the things they warn you about. If you're somebody who loves pornography, is you know, be careful because then I make sure regular sex life is a little bit more challenge. And you're right, because that's where, that's the thing that they blame the erectile dysfunction
Starting point is 00:17:44 applies. I bet. However, when you add it all up to And you're right, because that's where that's the thing that they blame the erectile dysfunction rise. And then, however, when you add it all up to testosterone levels dropping tremendously, much less strength, you know, can't get a boner. Man, what's going on here? You know what I'm saying? Because there's this, I don't care what people say. They're the kind of the boner. There is this delicate balance between male and female.
Starting point is 00:18:04 And this is, look, I'm sure I'm gonna get some people who are gonna say you're sexist or whatever. That's bullshit. Science will prove it over and over and over again that there are differences in the male brain and the female brain. There's definite hormonal differences. There's definite differences in general, by the way,
Starting point is 00:18:21 because individual variances can be dramatic. Like you can have a woman that totally out of this category. That's just weird. Totally out of this category. I argue that it were exactly the same. Well, I think people try to pretend that we're all exactly the same, which is so...
Starting point is 00:18:31 The fuck up. But my point is, there is this balance, and it's interesting how it's kind of getting thrown off a little bit, in some ways, it needed to happen, but in other ways, like this one, like I said, you hear a lot of women complain about this. Well, since none of us are educated in this field, I think we should give some good advice.
Starting point is 00:18:51 And regarding this, we always do that. To how to avoid, if you're a millennium male, how do you avoid not becoming a pussy? So you know what's funny? How do you gain testosterone? So you know what's funny? So you know, Jessica's eight years younger than me, right? So I showed her this, this thing.
Starting point is 00:19:04 Yeah. And so there's a little bit of an age difference between us. Eight years is relatively substantial. That's a lot, bro. And she says, she's young, yeah. So she says, she goes, yeah, she goes, I won't date no dudes like my age.
Starting point is 00:19:15 She's like, they're just not manly. She's like, you're extremely, she was telling me out, you know, manly, I'm whatever. And that's why she's attracted. And then she said her friends. She said most of her friends are far more attracted to dudes and they're like late 30s because they feel like they're just solid. Well, she's also overhead. She's getting some love. 29, 29, 29. Yeah, she's at that age right
Starting point is 00:19:36 now too or this I think for women, if you're between like 27 and like early 30s, that's a, well, just look at, I don't know, bro, a well just look at I don't know bro Let's just look at the workforce, dude look at what men are doing now, dude We're inside not active indoors grinding on the computer, you know Wearing some hipster get up and whatever you know like trying to grow beer Big old beer but can't change the tire, but they but they're just like frail and I mean and just like no calluses on their ass. You know, all on social media and all this shit
Starting point is 00:20:09 and then like, you know, they just don't do anything. Significant. I just picture Justin walking in an office, lighting's bowling, everybody. It's like slap them on the head. It's like, no respect, dude. Let's all be man here. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:22 You know, I definitely think the lack of activity, man. Come on. That's got to play. It does. Yeah. Yeah. Work out. I honestly, you have to lift weights now. Come on. At least before like you got some activity because you're Well, that's a job and that's a very good point. I mean back then you were doing stuff that was so I mean you were you were you were At least you were playing and you were hunting and killing and cooking. I'm away back then. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? To now where you said we're sitting on computers, so it is, it's almost necessary. Or even mixing concrete. And I mean, we just don't do hard labor stuff anymore.
Starting point is 00:20:55 No, you know what? So I have two kids and seeing them play with their friends and stuff, playing has completely changed, completely changed. They, when we were kids, which wasn't that long ago, we're not even, we're just the generation before, when we were kids, when you got in trouble, what did your parents do? They made you stay inside. Yeah, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:21:17 Now we're not here. Yes, your kids get punished by going outside. Yeah, turn the TV off now. Yeah. You're in trouble. Turn the TV off. You're not allowed to go outside and play. Like what the fuck? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:28 That my generation that would be like the best thing ever. Really? I have to go outside and play. Okay, see you later. You know that stuff you do too is different, right? Like I remember building forts and digging holes, you know what I'm saying? And like jumping off shit.
Starting point is 00:21:40 Like you do, throwing rocks. Yes, you did stuff like that where it's, you know, you're in, you are, and it starts early on, right? You're inside, you're cooped up, you're playing video games and probably playing house and, and dress up with your fucking sister, you know? That's what we've turned into. I did that. I wore wigs. It was fun. I don't know. I think you definitely, especially because lifestyle nowadays, and this goes for man and women, but just because the study really picked on man.
Starting point is 00:22:09 Go the flates, man. Nothing will affect that. That's just faster on better than weights. That's one. I'm kehab. I mean, what about the whole, the porn thing, man? I think it's, I make go out and find pussy. Quit trying to look at it. I'm saying like work for it. Go get the real thing. I'm saying, instead of, and you know, if you find yourself glued to your phone, watching, you know, you porn all day long, like you're setting yourself up for a tough one later down the road when you actually have to go get the real thing.
Starting point is 00:22:36 You know, virtual reality is gonna make everything even worse, right? Oh my God, I can't even imagine. You know, the movie, the movie, the movie, they won't even leave on point. Which one? The movie, Sarah gets.
Starting point is 00:22:46 Oh, yeah, what are the show? It's little, so virtual reality is, I mean, every, nobody gets outside. It's literally everybody is inside this virtual world because it's just like reality. They can orgasm from, you know, the, how visual and real it seems. And did you know that millennials is one of the,
Starting point is 00:23:03 this is one of the first generations in that age group to actually have less sex than the previous generation? Yeah, less sex with other people, but probably not themselves. Well, of course not, but less. Let's make that study. Yeah, let's seriously, I'm sure there are.
Starting point is 00:23:19 No, just less sex. I'm sure there haven't just as much sex with themselves as we were if not more, you know. No, just, I'm not gonna lie, man. If I had YouTube and an iPhone when I was 17, I'm not sure if I ever would have left my room. I'm not sure if I would have ever left my room. I mean, we talked about this before, and one of our first episodes.
Starting point is 00:23:39 I mean, I was stuck with, you know, cut out of newspapers and, you know, like the one playboy, the one playboy magazine that you stole from your uncle or what do I tell you? That's all I had. Yeah, you exactly. I must have masturbated at least 7,000 times. To me, sometimes I would come home from school and I was like, I've already masturbated that 7,000.
Starting point is 00:24:00 I guess I'll go outside and play. I'm saying, where if you're a kid now, you come home from school and you're like, what's on you porn today? You know what I'm saying? It's, whoa, look, 1,000 new videos. You know? It's like, I'm just gonna stay here all night. You know what, you make a really,
Starting point is 00:24:17 you make a really good point. Think about it. And you know, they did interview these people who were talking about having less sex and they're saying, yeah, it's like, they're basically saying why? Like, well, what for? Why would I want to?
Starting point is 00:24:28 Yeah, you mean I have to talk to them? We might get in an argument and debate and I got to ask for it. No, no, no, that sounds crazy. I think every generation has their like, you know, you kids are stupid when I was your age, like that might be our argument. Yeah. Like, we might be telling our kids like, what's wrong with you? You're not fucking when I was your age on smoking.
Starting point is 00:24:43 That was like the big motivation. Yeah. You know what, too? Like, no, I got a big card. No, so I can get some awesome pussy. Bro, kids don't even get their licenses anymore. Drivers license. I know.
Starting point is 00:24:55 I would like to see you study on that because I know at least for personal experience of people around me, I know that those, a lot of kids just wait till they're like, they're, and then you know what, take a lot of more. And I bet they get their license. You're like Mr. fucking Google, right? Why don't you Google this?
Starting point is 00:25:07 I would love to see studies around kids at what age they leave home now, because I think, Oh, wait less. I think, wait longer, they say, wait longer. Way longer, and then driver's license, I would like to see them. Now they're just ubering and, you know, bringing their scooters everywhere.
Starting point is 00:25:21 Yeah, I don't know, I think, if you're listening right now, and you're in that age group, here's a deal. Stop the view porn, go grab some weights. Well, look at it, look at it this way. You are now in a pool of men where you can now elevate yourself easier.
Starting point is 00:25:39 In other words, you can separate yourself from the pack. Excellent. Way easier than impossible. Like if this was like, if this was 1945 or 50, like this is the post, right after World War II, everybody's a bad ass. Everybody's an alpha. Like it's tough.
Starting point is 00:25:53 Like you're walking around, you're like, God damn, I can't get no action because to keep fighting, to get something good. Yeah, look at all these big digs around me. But now you're surrounded by small digs. So all you gotta do, go lift some weights, do it properly, do three full body workouts. If you really wanna get testosterone,
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Starting point is 00:26:19 Literally every, every, every, each and every 25 year old kid is googling us right now. Mind pump mediator. That's why it's called anabolic. Yeah, mind pump media.com. Eat healthy fats, eat more healthy fats. You know, too low of healthy fat intake has definitely been connected to low testosterone.
Starting point is 00:26:35 Dietary cholesterol, if you're healthy, eating more dietary cholesterol, I'm not talking about your blood cholesterol, I'm talking about the cholesterol you find in food, like egg yolks, that will contribute to healthier testosterone. Isn't that interesting too? Now, it's counter-cultural to be manly
Starting point is 00:26:50 and have testosterone. It's be that guy. Well, the other thing is, too, that we know and mention either is the rise and the continued rise of obesity and overweight. Once you start to increase what, once you hit over 20% body fat as a male, your testosterone levels start to decline. Yeah, fat's an estrogen sensitive mood tissue.
Starting point is 00:27:10 Right. So, girls go through puberty a little earlier now, and they're attributing it to obesity because if a girl's really overweight or fat, she will typically go through puberty sooner because like I said earlier, fat is a very esophagus sensitive. I always thought it was more related to all the growth hormone and shit in our food.
Starting point is 00:27:30 I don't know. Which one came first? You know, I'm saying like, that's a great point. That's another piece to the puzzle. Dude, did you guys see if you if you if we're pumping our chickens, our cows and pumping them full of all these hormones, pump it up. And they're consuming the food from them. You would think even though it's not like an enough to come, like to pick up on tests,
Starting point is 00:27:51 I would think it would be a traces of it in enough foods that you're consuming. Did you see it? How could it not affect you? Did you guys see that article I posted on the forum? It was by the Associated Press and they did this huge study across the US where they were testing the drinking water. Did you guys see this?
Starting point is 00:28:06 No, no. And they found like majority, most of the drinking water, public drinking water, they found traces of pharmaceuticals in them and hormones. Yeah, some of a bitch. And water? In your water. Like city water. City water.
Starting point is 00:28:22 So, and we're talking about very, very minute amounts. However, you know, that's what, the water you drink every day all day long, that's gonna have an effect. They found ibuprofen, they found antibiotics, they found estrogen, they found... Traces of all that in the water. In the water.
Starting point is 00:28:38 And so why? What city was this? Almost every city they tested. I think one of the worst ones was Seattle. I think was one of the worst cities. The cleanest city has the dirtiest water. Well, so they're trying... So they figure, you know, when you take a pill...
Starting point is 00:28:52 The cleanest streets, but we shit in our water. Yeah, it's it. When you take a pill, it doesn't... You don't always break it all down 100%. And so then you poop or whatever, and that gets filtered out, but filtering out pharmaceuticals is way different. And so they're finding these real trace amounts and water. And I'm wondering if that is contributing to some of this.
Starting point is 00:29:09 So you're seeing some of this wounding and everybody's poopling P. Yeah, I didn't do that, but that, you know, maybe that's contributing. Gross. Yeah. Because you're getting, you know, rise of chronic autoimmune disorders, ADD and ADHD and kids, you're getting, you know, obesity is exploding. And we know it's not just calories and versus calories out. Now you're seeing like men's hormone levels
Starting point is 00:29:31 or just testosterone levels are dropping. There's some issues that women are seeing even with their hormones. Why do we're chicken? What about just, what about just flat out movement? I mean, I would blood flow and moving and I would think that would have something to do with it too. I mean, just being sedentary versus.
Starting point is 00:29:44 I've had, just speaking personally, I've had several clients, men, who would get a physical right before we started training or right after we started training, like, you know, so that nothing has changed, it's kind of their baseline. And they'll get the hormones checked, because I'll always tell them, hey, I'll, I always encourage clients that start with me, get a physical and see if you can get some hormone tests. Not everybody does it, but sometimes they do. That way we have a baseline to see if there's anything that we can change through exercise.
Starting point is 00:30:12 And I've had more than a few men increase their testosterone levels, simply, I mean, dramatically. Like I had one guy whose testosterone levels went from 230 to over almost 700. And all we did was start lifting weights, got him to sleep a little bit more, and I had him change his diet.
Starting point is 00:30:28 230 to 700 free today. Almost 700. Yeah. How old? He was in his 50s. Wow. He was in his 50s. So he went from low testosterone
Starting point is 00:30:36 to pretty high testosterone. Yeah, no. That's dude more than doubling. I mean, that's impressive. Yeah. I mean, I would imagine to talking to him, he would notice the difference, everything. On average, from the ones I've, of the clients I've had,
Starting point is 00:30:49 simply through exercising properly and eating right, I've seen testosterone level. On average, go up 20%. I mean, literally, it's a pretty big, and that's not a bad, you know, bump in most, most guys, and sometimes we'll get those huge, you know, those huge bumps. And of course, they can feel it, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:31:06 One of the first comments I get, especially the older people that I train, is that their libido increases. And that a lot of times is a signal that your testosterone level's going up a little bit. Yeah, so another thing, I mean, those that are all business minded, this is a thought,
Starting point is 00:31:19 and I've seen someone going through this on their social media the day, that there's actual certifications now and a process to become a hormone therapist. And there's probably a big increase for that need for that. Big demand for, of course. It's becoming more and more popular now, right, to talk about HRG. Well, it's the same mentality that they want to get a pill or some kind of something to help fix this issue instead of what cell suggesting-suggesting with lifting weights and adding movement and bettering your diet.
Starting point is 00:31:49 Yeah, I, you know, we've talked. What if that, that's, here's your next, that's your next study right now, like in the next 10, 20 years, you know, the average 25 to 30 year old will be on hormone replacement just so he can be. Of course. So it doesn't turn into a bitch by the time it's 35.
Starting point is 00:32:05 You know, when you, if you were healthy, if everybody was healthy and had appropriate exercise and appropriate diet, I wonder how many of these problems would disappear. It's got to be a huge percentage of them. You know what I'm saying? But consider with men, especially, you know, theoretically, a man can procreate until the day he dies.
Starting point is 00:32:25 So if you're staying healthy and you're 80, you're still making sperm. Yeah, you're rock hard. You're still, I don't know. You're all, that's right. I hope. I think we just lost. Every one of our lives in France.
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