Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 364: Good Carbs Bad Carbs, Uneven Range of Motion Fixes, Productive Rest Periods & MORE

Episode Date: September 14, 2016

Kimera-Quah! In this episode of Quah, sponsored by Kimera Koffee (kimerakoffee.com, code "mindpump" for 10% off), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about whether carbohydrates such as brow...n rice and quinoa are ok to eat, ways to modify exercises when one limb has less range of motion than its counterpart, how to make the most of rest periods and the one thing they would change about corporate gyms. Have Sal, Adam & Justin personally train you with a new video every day on our new YouTube channel, Mind Pump TV. Be sure to Subscribe for updates. Get MAPS Anabolic, MAPS Performance, MAPS Aesthetic and the Butt Builder Blueprint (The RGB Super Bundle) packaged together at a substantial DISCOUNT at www.mindpumpmedia.com. Please subscribe, rate and review this show! Each week our favorite reviewers are announced on the show and sent Mind Pump T-shirts! Have questions for Mind Pump? Each Monday on Instagram (@mindpumpradio) look for the QUAH post and input your question there. (Sal, Adam & Justin will answer as many questions as they can)

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Starting point is 00:00:00 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. Mite, op, mite, op with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. We need to discuss something. Yeah. We just got back from Ben Greenfield hanging out up in Spokane, Washington. And before we left, a couple of things that we did. We got overwhelmed by the assessments.
Starting point is 00:00:28 We had no idea that we were gonna get this much feedback. So we are buried. We opened the flood gates. We did. So we were buried in assessments. We had no idea the response we had. We've been chipping away as much as possible. So if you're somebody who did it,
Starting point is 00:00:41 and you're like, I did it on the first day. Well, unfortunately, we didn't get them ordered that way. The way they come in and flooded, they were just been ripping them off and trying to get to as many people as possible. So we apologize for those of you that haven't heard back from us. We are personally trying to either reach out to you through via email, text message, or a phone call and get to as many people as we possibly can. And then the other thing was we did this little promo right before we left that if you have never got involved in any of our programs and you wanted to buy the bundle, the RGB bundle, which includes the maps red maps, enabolic, the maps green,
Starting point is 00:01:19 maps performance, maps black, maps aesthetic, which is nine months of programming. So it basically takes you through nine months of training is if you were to purchase that and get the form for half off. So when you buy that, the little thing pops up, gives you an option for half off on the form. If you were to purchase all of that first time ever, we've done this that we've been giving away maps white with that. So you'll get maps anywhere for free. Yes, and we were going to run that for just the first 50 and what happened was we all took off on vacation and during that time, we went well over the 50 mark.
Starting point is 00:01:56 And so we feel bad about just cutting it off right now. So I think we're going to extend it all the way through the month, just say fucking. In the entire year, September. Yeah. So you get maps anywhere for free. So I think we're gonna extend it all the way through the month just say fuck it. So you get maps anywhere for free. All you got to do is enroll in the RGB bundle with the forum, which is already half off.
Starting point is 00:02:12 So you get nine months of exercise programming, plus maps anywhere, which is showing you how to work out without equipment. Excellent for travel, excellent to mix up your routine. In reality, you've got yourself more than nine months. You've got like 12 months worth of... Well, yeah, and that's not including all the mods. Name all the mods that come with that. So if you...
Starting point is 00:02:31 You're sexy athlete mod. Right? There's the... But builder mod. Yeah. What else do you have? Stic Mobility is in there in the map and maps green. So, maps performance has Stic Mobility mod and then maps anywhere also has a suspension training
Starting point is 00:02:44 mod. So, that was thrown in there as well. There you go. MindPumpMedia.com. It's the RGB bundle and you get maps anywhere for free. Don't forget you have to enroll in the forum as well. MindPumpMedia.com. Can I ask you guys your honest, the very punchy? Because I don't want you guys to be nice to me. Just be straight up honest. Can't we lie? Are you are you wearing your Lulu shorts? So that would get going on over there.
Starting point is 00:03:06 Those are your Nike's. Wow. Oh no, you can't see from there. So I can't see. So these are regular under armor shorts. Okay. But underneath, I got on my under the under armor. I got the Lulu lemon fricking,
Starting point is 00:03:21 what else, what else called? You sneaky. They're sport boxers or whatever. Yeah, can I tell you what I wear? Can I tell you how much I don't like them? Oh, you don't like them? No, my legs fall on the sleep. It ties everything off.
Starting point is 00:03:30 You know that's because you have the compression ones. How did you feel when you put them on? Did you feel okay? I haven't worn them yet. Really? They remind me of a slip. You know where you put your cup, you put your cup in. I never wore a cup.
Starting point is 00:03:43 Oh yeah, you don't know that. I think I never wore a cup. I you don't know that I think I never work up I think I got the wrong ones too. Why I Did you put your worrying backwards the power? They looked really oh my god. It's so funny You just so this happened to me on Thursday so I'm teaching class and I'm like maybe like an hour in or so and I'm like, God, I just can't stop itching my crotch and grabbing my,
Starting point is 00:04:05 oh no! Adjusting my underwear and it's driving me crazy. Crabs! And, uh, oh man. You know, when I, I drink a lot there. I drink a lot of water when I'm teaching and, you know, so I constantly, like, I have to get these little two minute breaks I can run in the bathroom and quick pee and come back.
Starting point is 00:04:18 And I've already done this like five or six times and every time I go in there, I'm like, totally, really just, they didn't come back. And so I don't want to be like, re-adjusting my cock and class, like all the time, like totally just staying in and coming back. So I don't want to be like re-adjusting my cock and class all the time, right? So just embarrassed and handling yourself. And it's like more people.
Starting point is 00:04:31 And I'm going like, what did I do? Like, why am I so itchy this morning? And you know, is it this underwear that I put on? And I'm like, so I go in the bathroom about this. I get to wipe. About the fifth time. And I realize my underwear is on backwards. And I can't remember.
Starting point is 00:04:43 You actually put your underwear on backwards? I put my underwear on. So did you get a wedgie in the back and in the front with all? Did they call it a melvin? There's a reason why you put them on the opposite. It definitely, there's a reason. They designed them so that things sit where they're supposed to.
Starting point is 00:04:56 Well, next time you have to grab your clutch a lot, what I do is make sure I make like Michael Jackson noises every time I do that, so people think it's a thing. Yeah, yeah, it's nothing creepy. Yeah, I'm like, oh, I wouldn't be like, that's creepy time I do that. So people think it's a thing. Yeah, yeah, it's nothing free. Yeah, I'm like, I wouldn't be like, that's creepy at all. No, no, here's the opinion I was gonna ask you. The beard, the bottom part. Let it go.
Starting point is 00:05:13 You see it? Look at that. Oh, yeah. I felt, I felt, I felt cool with it while as I was traveling through Oregon. You fit right in. Yeah, you so, can I tell you guys something right now? I want to live in Oregon.
Starting point is 00:05:26 Oh, good. This is the first time you've traveled. Can I just, can I just, can I just let our audience, let us, or I don't know, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, you've been to Portland a million times. Do you even told me go in the winter? Let me, let me tell the audience something that I'm raining forever. Learned about South.
Starting point is 00:05:43 Oh, I've met him here. Yeah. He is, and and he admitted he admitted this when we first all met that he's kind of what do you call that? Hypercontract where you think what every time you get sick you like I have cancer, right? You know he's like super. I'm gonna. I'm gonna show you you're the extreme about everything I've learned when you get something, you've learned something new, you get so passionate and excited about it. Like you ride it to death and then it fizzles out and then you're on to the next thing that you're passionate about and you ride to death and you fizz out.
Starting point is 00:06:14 Even to your road trip, you were so excited about this road trip and it makes sense because you've never done one before. And I kept thinking, as I was telling the boys, as we were flying home in our two-hour flight and you had a drive for 14 hours, I said, you know, he was so excited to do this road trip to get up to our house,
Starting point is 00:06:29 but, you know, he explained that this was his first road trip. I said, well, someone who's been on a lot of road trips, you know, you realize after you've been on a few of them that it's so exciting and fun on the way out because it's a new adventure and you're with your buddies or your girl and it's just like, oh, what are we gonna explore? And it's this, and then after day seven or ten. Yeah, exactly. You're singing that together. Then you go like, dude, I just want to be organ. I just want to sleep in my bed.
Starting point is 00:06:55 I can't wait to get anything to yourself. Fuck, I got 14 hours of road ahead of me. Not even raining at all. So I'm not talking about the driving part. I'm talking about the actual destinations that I was in. I went to Penn. I went to Penn and I went to Portland. And you experienced something new. Let me tell you about Oregon. Okay.
Starting point is 00:07:13 Oregon is full of. It's owned by Nike. It's full of mountain hippies. Yeah. I love mountain hippies. I've just seen a cruise man. Oh, sure, yeah, plenty of those. No, those are beach hippies.
Starting point is 00:07:23 It's different. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no of those? No, those are beach hippies. It's different. No, no, no. They're just lazy. I'm the big difference between those hippies and then when they're gonna educate you. There's a split between the mountain people and then the beach people. Is that I don't like the beach people? There's not a hippie there.
Starting point is 00:07:35 No, I'm not a hippie there. I'm not my people. Yeah, so a lot of, really friendly people and then, you know, they got the legal weed over there, which is kind of interesting, going into those stores. So I don't remember much after that, but anyway.
Starting point is 00:07:46 Right, yeah. It was a good, it was a, it was a, it's a great state. I love Portland and Bend is a pretty awesome. It's, it's all great and gravey right now because it was new for you and you traveled, probably on the best week of the year you could have traveled up there. It was the weather between 70 and 85 degrees
Starting point is 00:08:03 and sunshine, it was fucking gorgeous. It's cause all the girls had nose rings. All of them had nose rings. Yeah, that's like your thing. No. I love it. Piercings. Yeah, piercings. It's you know, I'm gonna get pictures of like crazy. Living in California, I think Doug mentioned it on the trip. You know, we live we live in an area in the Bay area that we see, you know, 300 days out of the year, we have sunshine.
Starting point is 00:08:28 That's crazy. It is, it's nice. They're like the opposite. You might get 60 days of fucking sunshine. But let's be honest now, we live in San Jose, right? San Jose is probably the largest city in the Bay area, the heart of Silicon Valley. San Jose is ugly.
Starting point is 00:08:43 It is. The city of San Jose is just like I'm just look around. It's like brown hills. It's just it's just ugly. Yeah, but to me, but you meet you can make a lot of money here obviously because that's why everything's so fun. And then I feel like, you know, 15 minutes away, you have Saratoga 30 minutes away, you have Santa Cruz 45 minutes away, you actually have the beach. Yeah, but you're saying the priorities. That's without way you have Santa Cruz, 45 minutes of what you actually have the beach. You're saying these priorities. That's without traffic, you're talking about the, you know, how you can, and also try to buy a frickin place in those places you just named.
Starting point is 00:09:12 Well, there's a reason for that, you know, that, because it's fucking better, bro. Yeah, it's fucking, yeah. The, typically works that way. The better shit is, the more expensive it is. That's true. The cheaper, which should be quite like. I'm not moving to Oregon, everybody call it that. Right away saying it's a massive.
Starting point is 00:09:28 I was like, dude, this place is only $200,000. It's gonna be 1.5 million. And right away you get excited, like I'm a bite and I think my skeptic glass goes like, I wonder why it's so cheap. Yeah. Why does nobody want to? That's what is nobody wants to.
Starting point is 00:09:41 That's what we were in a Spokane. No, I'm not gonna live in Spokane. Definitely not. Spokane, that's what they call it. Why were they calling it that? It took us a while to figure out what you're saying. Like four, like three. It's top three in crime.
Starting point is 00:09:52 Apparently they have a high crime right there. I didn't see any of it, man. It looked nice from where we were. Obviously. I don't know. We're also three and a half big dudes that are walking around Spokane. That's what it is.
Starting point is 00:10:02 I just got that. Three and a half. Three. I just got it. And a baby. And a got that. Three and a half. Three. I just got it. And a baby. Three man and a baby. A minute baby. He's a baby. Oh my God, that is.
Starting point is 00:10:12 Yeah. I'm making a meme. Put it with diaper. Nobody's probably fucking with us, you know. I'm saying I don't think that's, you say I mean, we got Doug walking around in his terrorist outfit, you know, with this, with this fucking get up. Right.
Starting point is 00:10:24 Oh, that's my favorite part. Doug got this front pack or something. He can carry all of his dynamic. Like all of his recording information, oh, excuse me, all of his recording devices and gear. Yeah, all the batteries and receivers. Wires and shits sticking out of them. I mean, he looks like a robot walking around with that.
Starting point is 00:10:40 Well, it looks like he's carrying a bomb, like a vest. It's a vest that goes on him and it carries all this stuff. He's like the next diehard movie. I told him, I think it's mandatory going forward that he wears his producer shirt while he does it. Otherwise, it does look very skeptical. I agree. But if he's got the big white producers,
Starting point is 00:10:55 I'll people be like, oh, he's people a little bit. I think we're okay if Doug wears that shirt. Now, if I wear that shirt, I don't want to give Terris or an idea though. That was written Terris or worn. Terris or worn producer shirts. Yeah. So, bitch,'Neil an idea. That was written. Terris O'Neil, producer shirts. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:06 So, bitch, we gave him that idea. Were you guys commenting that you found that there were a lot of attractive women in Washington? Okay, that I was surprised. Surprise that you mentioned that. Yeah. Yeah. We were in a very nice hotel. I think we were put up in the nicest hotel in Spokane. Do you remember the name of it?
Starting point is 00:11:26 What was the name of a Douglas do you have tower tower tower? Yeah, I'm so proud of you remember all the names. I liked it. It was a great hotel wonderful service great people Very awesome food holy shit the decor Not that it was bad. It's just a weird go again. It was weird man It's a farie decor. We're in Spokane and there's like a stuffed cheetah. And it was like a big buffalo head. That's why it was cool.
Starting point is 00:11:50 It was classy though. It wasn't like, you know, some weird cheesy thing. No, it was like some carnival. They were real. They looked real as fuck. They were nice. I don't know what you're talking about. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:01 Just because you're not into so oddity. I think if you've been on a safari, maybe it would be cooler, actually. To, to, to, if I've been on a safari. Yeah, if you've been on a safari maybe it would be cooler actually. To to to if I've been on a safari. Yeah, if you've been on a safari maybe you'd appreciate it. I don't know. You know what it felt like to me. It felt like I was at the race for his cafe in Disneyland or whatever. You know what I mean? It's done way more nicer than that. Come on. Yeah, we had like beautiful time. Yeah, no, the songwork also. Austroched leather seats, fucking tiger print in the in the the elevator like it felt more like a high-end strip club to me That's thank you. I feel like that very high very high See like home. He's that's classic. That's why I'll have to
Starting point is 00:12:34 To together and apparently it's like it was like the hot place to be because around around what is that happy hour? It would get packed. Yeah, so if you're from near the area or you travel through there's a Daven Towers is Daven Port towers. Daven port towers. Sorry. Sorry. Daven port towers. That is the place for the towers to stop at. And it's got it's cracking.
Starting point is 00:12:58 It meant great food to let me tell you the ribs, the, the rib eye was amazing. The burger they had. What else did you guys have? That was really good there. I had good, the salmon was really good. You had salmon instead of proud of you. And I drank a Guinness.
Starting point is 00:13:11 I have finally found an alcoholic beverage. I almost want to give you a hug. What? Almost. Damn it. I like Guinness, that's the only on tap. It's the only thing you're on. Now you're on this nitrous infused kick right now
Starting point is 00:13:24 because you've experienced it. It feels frothy on your mouth. Actually, it's not frothy, it's smooth and creamy. Speaking of which, Oregon has, or at least the places I went to, has cold brew nitro coffee on tap. That's cool. That's amazing.
Starting point is 00:13:39 Oh my God, that's delicious. I'm looking forward to what it's. So good. Can we look that up and find out which ones? We're the Bay Area. We have to have some of that. Yeah, because I asked the guy in Campbell, and he said that they were like installing it. Doug, can we get on that?
Starting point is 00:13:50 I just haven't. Can we get, this is very important to find that. Let's stop making a map. Stop making producers. I feel like this is important, and I'm gonna put this out on it because we brought up, we talked to Frankie Chimera. And I don't know if that's his last name,
Starting point is 00:14:03 but Frankie from Chimera. No, I like calling him Frankie. Oh, okay. yeah, yeah. I think he's one of the CEOs or whatever. So, um, and we were going back and forcing in new pictures to each other. And we, I told him, I said, Hey, you know what we should do? We should do this. The nitrous infused Chi-Mera coffee and in our new location. In our new spot. And I think it would be pretty cool to be the first ones to do that over here. And I don't think I think the setup probably be, I don't know, maybe a couple grand for it.
Starting point is 00:14:29 Yeah, I mean, what we're trying to do is we're trying to tell Frankie that it'll be great for the business because we'll promote it. But in reality, we just want to drink them. Yeah, we just want to drink. We want that on top of the coffee. Yeah, nitro, a ca we do it every day, I think we've talked about the pot because we were getting into a storefront.
Starting point is 00:14:47 We had no intentions of doing this, but we were, in fact, today, you know, we can all celebrate. So virtual high five, everybody, today we, yeah. Today we break ground. So it's a celebration, bitches. That's right. The Mind Pump Academy. It's a celebration.
Starting point is 00:15:00 Yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and call it that until we give it an official name. What the what? Mind Pump Academy. Why? I don't know, it just sounds like it should be that I thought it was mine pump media headquarters No, that's what our umbrella company is. I want to name our facility something else For now we're gonna call that until Doug names it something official. Okay, so the mine pump Academy is is being built Why don't we call it wheelhouse wheelhouse? Yeah, why cuz you always say that wheel. This is in my wheelhouse Yeah, he's like this in my wheelhouse
Starting point is 00:15:24 The mine my wheelhouse. Yeah, she's like this in my wheelhouse It's a down the mine pump wheelhouse. I love how you picks up on all my Lexington on here. Yeah Only four words. Well, definitely have a library You fucking dick. We're gonna have a whole row of library Library, yeah, it's very it's pretty easy to get out of the box away take the R out of the middle pretty easy to get out of the way. Take the R out of the middle. It's a library. God dude. Can't wait to kick you in the nuts. Not again. So
Starting point is 00:15:49 what were you saying about my pump of gattabit? It's I was just celebrating with our audience right now. Virtual high five to you all that we have broken ground on the new location. It's a store front place. We didn't realize that
Starting point is 00:16:01 we're taking over a crossfit facility. Pretty stoked about that, there is a God. Yeah. And where we're sharing is they're all, they're next door though, they're still there. Well, we're not really sharing. But you know what you get what I'm saying. Yeah, it used to be a building. Yeah, and they're great people, we love them.
Starting point is 00:16:15 Yeah, we love them, but we're infiltrating. Yeah, we're pretty much taking over. We're gonna take over all of CrossFit. But we mentioned how it would be cool if we do do this nitrous infused coffee that we have a small window for people to come by and get some. I don't know when we'll do that. I don't know when, but that would be fun. But the construction is what we estimate the first round.
Starting point is 00:16:39 So this is obviously what will happen in waves, the demolition and the building of Doug's fucking crazy over the top studio. Of course Doug has the coolest part of the entire place. We're not working on that. We're trying not to jerk off in there Doug. Yeah, I know it's gonna be exciting. I'll do my best, I'll do my best.
Starting point is 00:16:54 We'll see you, we'll see you does that first in there. Yeah, Doug's, I'm pretty excited. I'm pretty excited for Doug's studio that we're building right now. It's gonna be pretty neat. It's gonna be about three times the size of the location we're in now. It's gonna have a green screen in there.
Starting point is 00:17:06 I think he's gonna have like a... Oh, we gotta change the furniture? Maybe. Maybe. This could be loud for you. I want a big lion chair. Cons... Oh, now you're into Safari theme.
Starting point is 00:17:17 Now I want that's different though. Yeah. Well, I do think that once we get in and situated, that this will eventually move its way out. I mean, shit, this is only a year old furniture. It's brand new. I hate to just not use it. But use it for something.
Starting point is 00:17:30 But I do feel like we are, I'm in a place now where I want my custom mic and I want a custom chair. I don't want to do it. What do you mean custom mic? I want it rhinestoneed out with like some. Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah, I want something that looks nothing like yours. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:44 I want to make my mic individual. So when we come into a studio, people will go like, You make yours first and I'll mic my after. Okay, I want mine with spikes. See, I think everybody should have custom mines. Mine's gonna be bigger. Teeth and a custom chair. I mean, I don't want you sitting in my chair
Starting point is 00:17:57 and I don't want you talking in mine. I'm yelling at something yelling at me. Just wait to leave the room, see what happens. Well, when we got down to Ben Greenfield this last week and Doug was pulling the microphones out, it was obvious which one was yours because it smelled like shit and I did not want to be talking into it. So, I think if we... My phone... Just imagining...
Starting point is 00:18:14 My phone... Hold on, hold on. I'm talking a lot. Hold on bro. You're the one that brings like that, not me. Well, notice I breathe like that that but my mic still smells fantastic. I feel like you're getting a lot of stuff deep down in the throat that's coming out. Just spray it all over. Oh god damn it here it comes.
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Starting point is 00:19:07 An English Landage! Queu-cwa. Weep. Our first question is from basically Lucas, who is under the impression that we think carbs are bad because of our recent episode on diabetes. And it's thinking that we have said that you should not eat things like brown rice and
Starting point is 00:19:26 quinoa, but you can stick to vegetables and fruits. I'm glad somebody brought this up because you like anything that we ever do. It seems like we put out something or we say something and then everybody gets pretty extreme about it. I eat carbohydrates still. I had carbohydrates this morning the day before the day before that. Like that. They weren't all from vegetables and fruits. Now am I striving for a majority of them to come from vegetables and fruits and majority of time? Absolutely. But, you know, Kenuang, Rice, Sweet Potatoes, and Yams, and I mean, there's lots of
Starting point is 00:20:00 carbohydrates out there that have lots of health benefits behind them. I don't think that we're telling people they should stay away from them. I think they're in general, there's a huge problem with carbohydrates. I don't think that, I mean, maybe Sal, Sal is probably the only one out of all of us that avoids carbs at all cost, but you can tell too he has a miserable life in comparison to just an eye. So there's give and take. No, I mean, at least I don't think.
Starting point is 00:20:27 I mean, so since you probably the most extreme on this, how do you feel? I mean, about well, carbs, carbs aren't bad. It's the over consumption of carbs. That's bad. Right. The over consuming carbohydrates, especially the wrong kind of carbohydrates, which is very easy to do. I was just going to say in what determines whether or not you're over consuming carbs, it's
Starting point is 00:20:46 quite individual. Carbohydrates, really, if you want to think of carbohydrates, they should kind of mirror your health and your activity level. Most people are not active. Most people shouldn't eat that many carbohydrates. They're very easy to overeat. They stimulate appetite. They're found in everything and most packaged processed foods, especially foods that have
Starting point is 00:21:09 long shelf life are very high in carbohydrates, even bars that you'll buy. Like, oh, this is a good protein bar and you'll look on there, it's going to have some sugar or sugar alcohols at least or carbohydrates. So they're not bad for you at all. You just want to eat the right amount and be wary of over-consuming carbohydrates. Now, I will just to be clear, we've been told or taught that carbohydrates
Starting point is 00:21:34 are should be the most important macronutrient. In other words, most of your plate should be carbohydrates. Which I think that was the main message we were trying to get across to right where you agreed. Well, so we got so fired up about it because it completely flips it upside down. So I think as far as the priorities are concerned, that should be a low man in the totem pole.
Starting point is 00:21:55 So thank you. You know, as far... Like, it's not that it's the demon that you can't ever experience it. You can't ever have any flexibility in your life as far as introducing carbs back in your diet and all that. It's just a matter of, can you go without them? Can you live in a way where you strive to eat
Starting point is 00:22:14 with healthier patterns and then realize what it is? You can't just deny the fact that there's a healthier way to eat, but at the same time, I'm not gonna be like super, like stringent and strict, all the way forward with it. Well, look at your macronutrients, your proteins, fats, and carbohydrates.
Starting point is 00:22:35 It makes sense that you would put more focus on the essential ones. In other words, the ones that your body needs in order to survive, because it can't produce certain amino acids. There's essential amino acids, and they're essential because your body can't make them. If you don't get enough of these essential amino acids,
Starting point is 00:22:51 you die. And there's essential fatty acids that your body can't make. In other words, if you don't get these essential fatty acids, you will get sick and possibly die. But carbohydrates are not essential. And so carbohydrates should not be your priority when seeking out macronutrients for food. And again, it's really the overconsumption that's a problem.
Starting point is 00:23:14 And also consider that you could be perfectly, or seem perfectly healthy by Western medicine standards where you get your blood test and they find that. Everything comes out okay and you're not overweight and you look your blood test and they find that everything comes out okay and you're not overweight and you look okay in the mirror and all that kind of stuff, but not realize that you're desensitizing yourself to carbohydrates because you eat so many of them all the time, and over the years, over the decades that can turn into insulin resistance, which we're finding to be root cause of a lot of different types of disease.
Starting point is 00:23:46 Well, it's like how good is your process of assimilating these nutrients? Is there a way that you can improve that? And so by taking some of the carbohydrates out of the diet for a while and if you're able to assimilate them better, that's like taking protein out for a little bit. It's this whole undulating effect, you know, it's not like carbs are super demon. It's just like, are you using them efficiently? Yeah. I mean, there's a reason why you're finding now a lot of the forward thinking health and longevity experts and athletes who are now starting to play with carbohydrates a little
Starting point is 00:24:23 bit more, it used to be kind of a fringe thing, you know bodybuilders did it because it they got lean doing it and but Really if you if you manipulate carbs and eliminate sugar eat them from whole natural sources Make fats and proteins your in that order Your your priorities. You're gonna be okay. Do you need to avoid carbohydrates? No? ketogenic diets pretty extreme. I don't I don't think that's the healthiest diet either. I think for certain conditions, it can be great. So it's not like we're giving one specific way to say that's the way to do it. But when it comes to carbohydrates, it's the over consumption. So it's easy to.
Starting point is 00:25:02 What did someone just recently message you about pseudoscience and and they got really frustrated with our episode that we just recently recently aired what it was They were because we because we had done that episode and we had talked about how you know Insulin resistance is you know usually caused by the over consumption of carbohydrates is usually caused by the overconsumption of carbohydrates. He said, well, there's science showing that consuming too many fats can do that or too many proteins. And yes, this is all true.
Starting point is 00:25:33 The body can become insulin resistant through a variety of different ways. However, the majority of the time, it's because of carbohydrates. I mean, carbohydrates spike insulin more than protein does and definitely more than fats do. And that constant spiking of insulin that constant exposure to high levels of insulin are
Starting point is 00:25:50 Is the easiest way to get your body to stop listening to insulin just like anything and then argue that argument to me is so dead because it's like okay Yes, that's true and there is science that supports it, but okay, and this comes back to you know How we always talk from experience and the thousands of clients that we've trained. I'll take two clients, okay, and try it. You can test this yourself. Try and eat three to 5,000 calories of fat in protein, and then try and eat three to 5,000 calories of carbohydrates and tell me which one's easier for you to do. Just look at the market options.
Starting point is 00:26:22 Just look at, like, going to the grocery store. What are your options? It is so hard to eat that much fat in carbohydrate. It's amazing. Your body, your body, you'll be full. You won't, you won't carbs though. Oh man, easily, you can creep up. You know how easy it is to eat a bag of skittles or a bag of chips or drink it. Yeah, exactly. Or drink a drink of 60 ounce, you know, soda right now. I mean, it's not very satiating carb hydrists are not very that's what i'm saying in him if anything it's pikes the insulin blood sugar and just causing you to be hungry for more where the opposite happens when you eat something that's very high in fat toward proteins i mean look bottom line you look at the
Starting point is 00:27:00 obesity epidemic um and when it really started taking off was exactly when the government guidelines changed and told Americans to avoid fat and to eat more grains and carbohydrates. It's perfectly matched up. Now, Americans also became less active during that same period of time. However, it doesn't add up. If you add up the activity, the any activity, and you try to do the math, it doesn't add up at If you add up the activity, the any activity, and you try to do the math, it doesn't add up at all. And then the explosion of diabetes and all these other related chronic diseases
Starting point is 00:27:34 that are related to the diet, really exploded after Americans reduced their fat intake and increased their carbohydrate and sugar intake. Sugar, it had intake exploded over that period of time. And people don't realize like food makers, especially processed food makers, their goal, number one, is to make a food that's palatable. It's not to make a healthy food. In fact, even your health food companies, if I'm a health food company and I'm coming out with a snack that's good for you, number one, where I'm spending most of my money on research development.
Starting point is 00:28:07 It's to make a taste and look at market. So we'll start with something that's addictive. Right, we'll start with something that tastes good and then I'll try and make it healthy. It's never the other way around. And when you reduce fat, when you cut fat out of processed foods because people are under the impression that fat's bad for you, they got to replace it with something else that makes it taste good. Because fat taste good.
Starting point is 00:28:26 And that's sugar. And they'll replace things with sugar. So low fat almost always means higher in sugar. And then now what do they do? Because we've got all this science with zero calorie type sweeteners. Everything's sweetened up with artificial stuff. So even your healthy bars and shakes that are all processed are loaded full of this stuff, so they taste better. But don't result,
Starting point is 00:28:47 that don't show a ton of calories. Right, and I want people to realize like your taste preferences will change. So at first, if you're used to eating this diet that's high in processed foods and sugar and you know, you artificially sweet everything, you know, sweeten everything. And then you go and you start to remove that.
Starting point is 00:29:04 At first, your food will taste, it won't taste as good. It might be more bland. You can be like, this sucks, I can't eat like this. All the time. More like your gut bacteria, like craving that, that type of a- So many different things. Gut flora changes, that'll change how you crave foods.
Starting point is 00:29:20 The receptors that receive the information from the food that you eat start to change. If I eat lots of sugar all the time, fruit is not nearly as sweet as if I avoid sugar all the time and then I eat a piece of fruit. And that has to do with the way the brain receives the information and perceives it. But as you change your diet,
Starting point is 00:29:35 you'll find that your preferences for foods will start to change. You will start to change. I mean, look, I was just on the road for about 11 days, okay? And so I ate most of my meals out. Now I always try to make healthier options. However, eating out is never gonna be as good as when you prepare your own food.
Starting point is 00:29:54 I found myself craving home food. Like I started craving, like I need more vegetables. I need more of the things that make me, you know, that are good for me. And that's because I've gotten to the point now where my body craves those things and I enjoy the taste of them. And so if you give yourself some time, you do it the right way and you do it in a way that you're going for health rather than weight loss or, you know, other physical goals.
Starting point is 00:30:16 You'll find after time that you'll start, your preferences will start to change. You'll be easier to eat healthy and not harder. Dr. Justin Trudeau, Dr. Justin Trudeau, Dr. Justin Trudeau, Dr. Justin Trudeau, Dr. Sir Brian Clegane is asking, are there ways to modify exercises? If you have a limb that is slightly less, has slightly less range of motion, then it's counterpart. Is that the whole question? I don't read any of this.
Starting point is 00:30:37 Was there more to it? Like, I think there's more. I just, he put an example in there about his knee. One of them could fully extend where the other didn't really have the same capacity. And I was just thinking as far as like, you know, unilateral training and stuff like that and the importance of that. Yeah. I thought we could, you know, we might be able to go into that as well. Well, I want to, I definitely want to point one, it seems obvious, but I don't want to
Starting point is 00:31:02 skim over this because I catch people doing this. If you have a strength discrepancy or a range of motion discrepancy and one or the other, the idea is to get the one that is weaker or limited in range of motion caught up to the other one and not to continue to progress the opposite one. So what I mean by that is like, so I've seen this before where someone's like, oh, my right shoulder really bothers me. So they're like shoulder pressing with their left shoulder and not doing anything with their right shoulder or they're pressing 50 pounds with their left and then they go to their right and they're only doing 25 or something. This is not ideal. You want to try and catch them up. So, you know, I'm always going to start with my weaker, less dominant, less range of motion side, like Justin saying, training unilaterally always gonna start with my weaker, less dominant, less range of motion
Starting point is 00:31:45 side, like Justin saying, training unilaterally. So starting with that side that is limited and trying to progress it, and then I'm going to mirror whatever I can do with that side with the other side. So I give it time to kind of catch up and even out. Well, I think it depends what the reasoning behind the limited range of motion. Yeah, because if you can't extend his knee all the way because there's something in the joint, because I've had clients like that. I've had more actually, I've had quite a few with elbow issues. Can we can we read it? Is it? Is it? Is it? Is it? Is it? Is it? Is it? Is it? Is it? Is it? Is it? Is it? Is it? Is it? Is it? Is it?
Starting point is 00:32:18 Is it? Is it? Is it? Is it? Is it? Is it? Is it? Is it? Is it? Is it? Is it? Is it? Is it? Is it? Is it? Is it? Is it? Is it? Is it? Is it? Is it? Is it? if it's something that he mechanically will never be able to work on versus he's just got limited because he's tight or he's a neurological disconnect. Yeah, if it's a muscle issue or a function issue and it has nothing to do with the actual limitations of the joint, then what Adam was saying exactly, I mean that's what you want to do. You want to bring it up to two so that it matches its counterpart. Otherwise you're going to have a horrible amount of... So he's lost a few degrees of his natural hyper extension from his surgery. So my lockouts on leg lifts is a little goofy.
Starting point is 00:32:50 My left leg fully extends like normally and then my right leg stops extending slightly sooner. So I almost get a bit of a twist going on. I just want to, sure. Okay. So this is easy to give himself problems if he doesn't do the following. Two things, number one,
Starting point is 00:33:07 lots of unilateral exercise. So I would do lots of leg movements that are one leg at a time. And if you do a barbell movement, because you're limited by the joint, in other words, it ain't gonna go straight to it. There's no muscle, nothing you could do with your muscle to get that knee to straighten out.
Starting point is 00:33:25 Then you wanna match the bent knee. You don't wanna try and match the straight knee. So what I mean by that is when you come up from your squat all the way, come up to the point where that knee is as straight as it's gonna be and then match it with the other leg. If you do barbell movements,
Starting point is 00:33:37 if you don't, like he said in there where he finds that he's twisting and stuff, he's gonna develop worse and worse imbalances over time that are gonna cause more and more problems. But the key to that, if there's that big of a difference, is unilateral. Just do your one-legged step-ups, your toe touches, do all that kind of stuff. This reminds me a little bit about, I just had a session recently with Dr. Brink and one of my clients. I brought him, she just had full knee reconstruction. And, you know, she could not squat beyond 90 degrees. And, you know, when he first was assessing her and she was
Starting point is 00:34:12 explaining this to him, he was telling her that, you know, you have a brand new knee in there. That knee should be better than even though you're the other one that you have right now. It should be able to go through full range of now. You've lost connection there and because you've had an injury and then you were in surgery and then you were limited, you limited that range of motion. So we've lost this neurological connection to take you through that full range of motion naturally yourself, but it's still there like any gave or next a later down. So this is a good question or a good test for yourself. Can you take your leg through folks and without like, by passively doing it? So taking your
Starting point is 00:34:50 other hand and moving yourself into full extension is that ability there? Like, do you have that ability to move? It's just not. Yeah, that would demonstrate that the joint can actually go through full range of motion. It's just that you can't do it. Your limiting factors that you have no connectivity to that. Right. So that's a big thing you need to find out, because if the joint is still got full range of motion, you just don't have the muscular connectivity
Starting point is 00:35:15 to take it through full range of motion. There's a different focus here. And that's where really working on this mobility factor on that side. Well, in this whole question, for me, it's, it highlights kind of an issue with, with people and working out and like the focus of it and the efficiency and the, like, what you're really trying to accomplish because if it's just that I'm trying to get through a workout and I'm always trying to just stay in quote unquote shape. These types of things like come up and people just, well, I guess I'll just kind of squat around it or I'll do something around it and I'll just keep working on this
Starting point is 00:35:52 and I'm really reinforcing these bad patterns over and over again and it's never getting addressed. And so if I don't take the time to unilaterally train and build it back up and get proper extension out of that knee, to match the other knee. You're not going to experience going forward. The progress going forward is never going to be what it could be. A lot of people have a hard time with that because you might lose some gains then on your other leg if you're really focused on building and developing that other leg to meet and match that.
Starting point is 00:36:27 So now I have a balanced deadlift or a balanced squat, and they're both contributing at the level that they should. Well, at the end of the day, if it truly is his joint, that's limited. And so there's nothing he can do to fix it, what I mean is there's nothing you do to full extent is Nick because it's the joint. Then you're already having an imbalance. So you need to understand and accept that there's an imbalance already present. If you don't train properly, that is going to be a big problem for you later on. If you train properly, it's our own injury. Right. If you train properly, focus on the lateral stuff, focus on the balance exercises. It'll remain to be a minor imbalance because that imbalance is always going to be there.
Starting point is 00:37:11 What would you're going to walk? You're going to be doing all kinds of stuff with a lot of preference as far as your movement patterns. Yeah, but if you train properly, it should remain a small imbalance. If you don't, that small imbalance will over time turn into one that can affect all kinds of curiosity. Just out of curiosity, what would make you think there's even anything wrong with the joint?
Starting point is 00:37:30 If it's, you know, he had, he says, my right knee has lost a few degrees of its natural hyper extension from a surgery. So my lockout on my, so what kind of surgery would he have done that would limit his joint that you can think of? I don't know. Because if you had any sort of orthoscopic type of MCL, ACL, PCL type of surgery. Was it just the time period of inactivity?
Starting point is 00:37:55 That's what I, that's a good question. That's a good question. That's a great question. Reading, that's why I went the direction I went when I read it because I don't feel like he, I if you said you broke your fucking Patela right, you know, or you shattered your tibia or something is your femur or something has happened to your bone. Major mechanical piece was you know, broken exactly if something like that has happened that is no longer will ever allow him to move that joint through floor. But then I could understand where you're kind of coming from. But to me, this is very common. What happens to people when they have knee surgery is they hit something, they put a cadaver in there or they, they just completely cut off the MCO, what if that.
Starting point is 00:38:33 And because of that during that time that they were injured down in surgery, which sometimes is months, they have limited their range of motion due to the injury. And they stop sending this, this connection that allows them to take that muscle through full range of motion. And really, it's just a connectivity thing that they need to reestablish and get there. And it's less of like your joint doesn't move to that full range of motion. So I think this is an important assessment. And that's actually more common far more common. Yeah. And that's then the joint actually being more. Yes. That's why I wanted to I was curious to where you were going with that, that like,
Starting point is 00:39:05 maybe you read into that differently than I did, because I don't see, you know, unless he's got more information, which this always helps, by the way, when you guys tell us full information on why, you know, you don't, you know, have that, you know, what surgery it was that you had, because that could tell us a lot that, okay, well, obviously he's limited because he doesn't have that anymore to do that. But if it was just like a basic tear and orthoscopic surgery that's happened to me, I mean, more often than not with me, not more, 99% of the time with my clients, it's just they've lost that connectivity and they've got to reestablish that.
Starting point is 00:39:43 Glenn SBT is wanting to know how you guys make the most of your time during rest periods. Oh, you mean like rest periods between sets? Yeah. This is a good question. It is a good question. Because people don't consider rest periods to be part of the workout. Right. Of all the , all the, all the, all the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the. Yeah, of all the factors that go into programming your routine, rest periods is one of them. It's one of the more important ones. It's a piece, it's a cog in the machine.
Starting point is 00:40:16 And you need to treat your rest periods like you treat your work sets in the sense that it's part of your programming. So if you're resting for one and a half minutes, that's what you treat your work sets in the sense that it's part of your programming. So if you're resting for one and a half minutes, that's what you're doing. If you're resting for two minutes, that's what you're doing. If it's a 30 second rest, that's what you're doing.
Starting point is 00:40:33 If you're training for conditioning, then there may be things that you're doing in your quote unquote, rest periods that help with conditioning. But other than that, it's not a waste of time. You know, just sitting there and resting is part of your workout. This is very important part of your workout.
Starting point is 00:40:51 Yeah, please. So. Let's hammer this. Yeah, I mean, because you see people like, oh, I don't like to rest. I like to like, in between squats,
Starting point is 00:40:57 I'll do sit ups or jumping jabs or grab the rubber band and I'll start doing rows in between my rows with the barbell. Yeah, and all they're doing in real, I mean, okay, let's, let's back up. You want to build strength.
Starting point is 00:41:07 Let's just focus on that for a second. You're lifting weights. You want to build strength. You want to rest to allow your body to rebuild its store of ATP so that you can lift heavy again. ATP is a type of muscle energy that is used for explosive movements. And resting in between sets allows you to replenish ATP so that when you go lift again, you're training anaerobically.
Starting point is 00:41:29 You're training the muscles with that type of energy. If I don't rest, very important, because if I don't rest in between... You're an hour aerobic. Now I'm a aerobic. If I go from one exercise to another, I'm no longer training that anaerobic. You're doing cardio with weights.
Starting point is 00:41:42 It's it. Maze will get on the stair master. Your body doesn't give a shit. Do the ballerina. It feels like it's not as hard. It's a different adaptation. You're seeking. So you have to trust in that fact alone
Starting point is 00:41:52 and do the protocol and sit on your ass and then lift hard when you need to lift hard. This is dear to me because I feel like I deal with a lot of, I have a lot of people around me that love circuit classes and love that way of training and then to take that personality out of that and teach them how to program design correctly is like fucking nails on the chalkboard for some of them. It's so hard for me to get this through their head that listen, when we, when you tell, we tell you 90 seconds of respire, look at it this way. Your fitness journey of getting healthy and fit and in shape, whether it be a build a bunch of muscle, burn a bunch of fat, no matter what it is, it's a fucking journey.
Starting point is 00:42:33 And it's a long journey. And during this journey, there's going to be hills. There's going to be some downhill parts. There's going to be some walking flat ground. There's going to be some parts you got to fucking run up a hill. All these different all throughout the whole journey. So guess what? When you hit a part of your program that tells you to rest for 90 seconds, fucking enjoy it. Yeah. Enjoy that. Yeah. Why it last because there there will be times for different for different focuses and different adaptations where we will ask you to shorter rest periods or super set exercises or like in maps green where we go through a durability phase where you're just high intensity. There is a place for that, but there is not a place for that all the fucking time, not for maximum results.
Starting point is 00:43:12 And the other thing is, if those 90 second rest periods really seem that easy or that they're just so long for you to get your next second, your working sets are pretty weak sauce. Because I'll tell you what, man, after I do a heavy set of squatting or deadlifting, those 90 seconds couldn't be any faster. I'm like, fuck. Oh, you feel fried. I want two minutes, or I want three minutes in between because you put everything into that set.
Starting point is 00:43:35 So, Well, and the quicker you jump into it, if you're cutting your rest by like 20 seconds sometimes, right, and I'm jumping back in this heavy set, think about those last two reps you could have got if you just would have sat on your ass and gone with the protocol. Right, and think about this way.
Starting point is 00:43:50 Again, when you're using resistance and you're training with barbells, dumbbells and weights, and you're trying to build muscle and strength, which is what weights do. It's what they do best. So yes, you can condition with weights and you can do cardio with weights, but what they do best is they build muscle and strength. So that should be the majority of the stuff
Starting point is 00:44:07 you do with weights. When you're resting, you're resting because it's a skill. And I cannot perform my skill properly if I'm fatigued. So you don't want fatigued to get in the way of doing that perfect set, that really good tense, you know, what I mean by tense is that tension set, where I'm getting in my squat what I mean by tense is that tension set, where I'm getting in my squat and I'm grinding through and I did eight reps on this set and the next one, I could probably, I might be able to do eight reps again because I rested properly,
Starting point is 00:44:34 versus going after the constant, you know, need for that type of fatigue, that type of endurance type of fatigue, which is okay if you're training for that, for that particular type of fatigue, if you're training for that type of adaptation, but if you're like most people, you're lifting weights in doing cardio because you want to get lean and you want to build muscle and you want to amplify your metabolism, then use weights with their use best for,
Starting point is 00:44:59 which is to build muscle. And the best way to do that is to rest between 30 seconds to 90 seconds typically between sets depending on what type of adaptation you're training for. There's a purpose for all of it. I feel like this question becomes more popular through people that have really just started one of our programs and maybe that's where they decided to step in, which I also get this with somebody who decided to buy black first. This has happened a lot where someone buys maps black first and they love it. I'm like, well, here's the thing you gotta be careful of. Part of the reason why you love it is because it's closer to how you train. You relate to it and you enjoy it because it's high intensity.
Starting point is 00:45:37 It slots a volume. In reality, probably going through maps red or green, which is a different adaptation, is probably going to benefit your body more. And I think that's the most important note to this. Is there magic at 90 seconds versus 30 seconds versus three minutes? No, there's not magic. Probably what's going to benefit you the most is the opposite of what you've been doing. So, and putting more emphasis on that. So, if I've been training super low rest periods or if I was somebody who just came out of one of those type of classes or programs that is you know no rest circuit circuit circuit
Starting point is 00:46:10 well probably the most beneficial thing would be going to the opposite extreme long rest periods where I'm lifting very heavy I'm letting my body fully recover and I do that now if you're somebody who's a powerlifter who has been resting for three minutes in between sets and that's all you've been doing is lifting super heavy with long rest periods in between. Now we're super set. Exactly. The probably the most benefits you're going to see is the opposite extremes because your body is so adapt to that.
Starting point is 00:46:35 So I think that for someone who's not following one of our programs, the biggest takeaway from this is that is learning that, you know, those rest periods, there is a time and place for those rest should be rest. You're not supposed to be trying to be actively doing something in between it or you're kind of defeating the whole purpose of what's called a rest period. Diary of a fit guy. If you could change, change one thing about corporate gyms, what would it be? Allow chalk. That really gets on my nerves, man, that you can't use chalk. I know why.
Starting point is 00:47:07 I was gonna say it's a hard thing to say. I know, because I make some mess, you know, it makes a mess or whatever. So, I mean, that's my personal one. Don't, the whole, like, don't, like, make too much noise with the weights. It's kind of silly. Although they're all the cardio equipment. Yeah. You know what?
Starting point is 00:47:24 Cut that in half. You know what? I mean, you gotta understand that these corporate gyms, they just all the cardio equipment. Yeah, you know what? Cut that in half. You know what? I mean, you gotta understand that these corporate gyms, they just follow the market. Yeah. And the market is starting to shift because I'm seeing gyms put more cages and have rubber plates and have platforms. I'd never saw that ever anywhere before. I'm talking any gym I ever went to before.
Starting point is 00:47:43 None of them had rubber plates and platforms. One, actually one, and that was a weightlifting room in the back of a gold gym that I went to years ago. But the market started to change a little bit. The rows and rows and rows of cardio, I think, like Justin said, all right, that's enough now. That's just, yeah, it's your team. Nobody needs that many.
Starting point is 00:48:01 Wasted space, nobody needs that much harder. Yeah, well, you know, it's hard to say something to like a general question like that because I feel like they're not all the same, you know, there's a lot of, there's a big difference between 24 hour fitness and gold gym and they both would be considered corporate gyms. If you were to or are, you know, what's the purple? I'm talking about. Oh, current fitness fitness, you know, there's another one that's a corporate gym.
Starting point is 00:48:24 They're all and I have something I would change about each Oh, plan and fitness, you know, there's another one that's a corporate and they're all and I have something I would change about each and every one of those, but different, you know, because they're different, corporates. So a general, yeah, we got to be specific, which one. Yeah, blanket, blanket statement of, you know, what would what was one thing that I would change about it? You know, what I always wanted to do is like some sort of like profit sharing or like ownership of the club. I think that just like we've talked about this a little bit, I don't want to get political,
Starting point is 00:48:47 but you know how voting for our president when you have, you know, you contribute nothing to our country, you know, whether it be paying for taxes or work or what kind of a person you are on society. I feel the same way about gym memberships like, you know, your membership should like be d-. Do you take care of your shit? Do you clean up your weights? Do you, are you somebody who does this? And then based off of that, there's like some sort of like sliding scale or we talked about, we talked about an all green gym one time where, you know, all the, all the equipment and machines, like a farm. Well, it would have like, like how much you move the weight and stuff with that, you would produce, reproduce energy back into the gym, like an all green gym. So if you're on a treadmill and you
Starting point is 00:49:27 were running on a treadmill, like you're, you're generating, you're generating energy, right? Every time you press weights, you're generating energy that gets, goes back into the gym and based off how much energy you put back into the gym would discount your membership. I think it sounds like a good idea. I remember where. I don't say never. There's a possibility that you future. I mean, Justin and I might build towers, build it. Here's the thing. Like the average corporate gym is in this type of model. High volume low dollar. So they want to charge a low amount and they want to get a lot of people to join. But there's one more piece of this puzzle. They don't actually want you to be in there all the time.
Starting point is 00:50:06 That's right, because if everybody showed up and used the gym for five days a week, they wouldn't have enough space. They literally would not have enough space. And a gym like 24-of-fitness, or even planet-fitness, these places are charging $15 a month, and you think to yourself, like, God, how can they maintain this 30 something thousand
Starting point is 00:50:26 square foot facility when everybody's paying $15 a month? It's because they have a shit ton of members, and then you go in the gym, and honest to God, those gyms are busy only for three, four hours of the day, maybe the rest of the time it's dead. I mean, I manage gyms for years, and there's almost nobody in there most of the time. There's prime time, and then aside from prime time, prime time, the gym is dead. I mean, I manage gyms for years, and there's almost nobody in there most of the time. There's prime time, and then aside from prime time,
Starting point is 00:50:47 prime time, the gym is dead. Where are all the people that are paying money for the gym? Not using it. Not using it. And so that's the model that they build themselves around. And so what they have in the gyms is not designed for the people who really work out. It's really designed to sell memberships.
Starting point is 00:51:09 Okay, so think of it that way. So if I'm building a gym for people who work out, it's gonna look very different than if I build a gym to just get people to come in and take a tour and buy a membership. What am I gonna put in that gym if I just wanna sell memberships and don't really care about people working out?
Starting point is 00:51:23 Lots of cardio. Just like we said, people walk into a gym, never use the equipment before, but cardio looks pretty easy and oh, I move my arms and legs on that machine. I don't need to do anything else. Put a shit ton of cardio. What else sells lots of gym memberships? Not cages and free weights, machines,
Starting point is 00:51:40 because machines look easy. And when I'm giving you a tour of the gym, I can show you, every machine has a picture on it showing there is what I would change. Okay, that's a good okay That would be cool. Um, and of course it's hard because you just like you said it's uh, then have to change the whole model You know, we we've changed their model and it wouldn't appeal to the the the master's like they already have sort of been changing that That's why there's a hard question because even a 24 hour fitness or like a Ballies, I don't even know if any ballies have exist anymore, but like a lot of those like LA fitness and all these, they've had to change based off of trends. And so you start seeing them clearing space
Starting point is 00:52:15 out and making more weight accessible places. They've added more trainers in. And I don't know, I feel like, you know, they sort of have to evolve based off of the market. However, a lot of times it's a gimmick or it's like they're highlighting one thing. Well, 24 are finishes. Just tell you on it. Just did it recently. I showed you, I think I told you guys,
Starting point is 00:52:36 neither one of you, I think it'd been it. You know, our old Jim, Sanatrice and Coddle has actually got, they just threw this little grassy field in the middle of it. Because they know that, and it's got a bunch of tires and rob field in the middle of it, you know, because they know that, you know, and it's got a bunch of tires and robes and it's really, you know, it's driving that right? Huh?
Starting point is 00:52:51 You know what caused all that. Crossfit did. Crossfit, crossfit. Of course. The market pressures from Crossfit and Crossfit type gyms and social media has now made people want to see that in their gym. Yeah. And so it's starting to happen in these big corporate facilities.
Starting point is 00:53:03 I would love to see you, you know, where I was starting to go with what you were talking about with all the gyms and cardio stuff. I would love to see a gym with like hardly any of that, like no equipment, no army, no like machines, hardly, maybe a free motion machine, maybe two or three of them in the entire gym. And then just like unguile amounts of dumbbells and barbells and just like, yeah, like 50,000 square feet of like area, squat racks.
Starting point is 00:53:27 All the walls are squat racks. Yes, all. And then everything in the middle is all like dumbbells and dumbbell racks and barbells and like kettlebells and just like that type of stuff to where there's literally you everything you're and then it's just like grassy field and like rubber padding and stuff where you can be doing floor work.
Starting point is 00:53:44 You know, it's a funny is I bet you, I wonder how well that would do. Serious people would go that for sure. Yeah, but you might just sell a lot of memberships too, though, I wonder how well that would do. Like if we opened a gym like that, that had that kind of look to, have you guys ever seen a picture of an old gymnasium,
Starting point is 00:53:59 like the first gyms? Have you ever seen them? That's what they look like. They were like big open space hanging ropes and they had like ladders and yeah ladders rings ropes and then they had like barbells and dumbbells and kettlebells and stuff just like on the store all in stations all in stations Yeah, that's what I wonder if that would do well now. It'd be interesting. Well cool. I mean after looking at I mean Dr. Brink was sending us text messages this weekend of pictures of the on an academy.
Starting point is 00:54:27 I didn't know it was that big. I had no idea it was 50,000 square feet, but I have to say if we were to build a gym, like this is what it would look like, that is probably, I mean, granted, we'd probably change some like maybe kickboxing type stuff that they had in there for like, Sal's arm wrestling machine or like something. Of course, we'd have like, something like that. Sure. Of course, we'd have some different shit like that. But for the most part, I mean, the way they...
Starting point is 00:54:49 There's your reality fitness room for me. Yeah, yeah. But for the most part, they have definitely designed... And porn. ...probably really close to what we envision as the mind pump fantasy factory, right? Like, I really think that's probably the closest thing to it. So the on and academy, that's the one and that's in Texas, right? That's the Texas. What's a day?
Starting point is 00:55:09 Austin, Joe DeFranco. The Joe DeFranco on it Academy is pretty legit in Texas. So that's probably give you an idea what I'd like to see. Yeah, I think the future of gyms is not big corporate gyms. Anyway, the futures with these smaller, the small boxes that are more specific, that's gonna keep going in that direction. We know from managing gyms for many years too, people don't realize this, but the big 50 to 100,000 square footers aren't the big money makers.
Starting point is 00:55:35 Your sweet spot for gyms was 8 to 15,000 square feet. That's where the, your best dollar per square foot. Ease, much more. That's the big, the big boxes were there to sell memberships for all the gems, right? You want to have your big, you know, got everything gem, but yeah, those smaller ones, when you looked at the profitability on a, you know,
Starting point is 00:55:55 store by store basis, it was those smaller ones that did much better. So, uh, listen, if you like Mind Pump, leave us a five star rating review on iTunes. If we like your review and we choose Your review you will win a free mine pump t-shirt. We'll send it right to you You can also find us on Instagram at mine pump radio You can find me at mine pump sal Justin is at mine pump Justin
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