Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 383: Improving Symmetry, Fitness Addiction, Mind Pump Tour & MORE

Episode Date: October 14, 2016

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If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. Mind, op, mind, op with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. So today on one of our episodes, we actually talked on our Q&A about Maps Black. And a question came up, and this is not the first time we've been asked this question recently, so I wanted to make sure that we direct people to our website for this because maps black maps aesthetic was geared around this was you know learning to build this you know symmetrical physique or a balanced physique somebody it was asking a question about what is symmetry

and you know when we when we created maps, the idea behind it was that everybody has these imbalances on their body or lagging body parts. And how do you program design for that? How do you go about bringing those lagging body parts up to have a more symmetrical aesthetic physique? So, that is what Maps Black is all about. So, if you're somebody who is searching for that or something that you want, Maps Black is at our mind pump media.com website.

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Adam. Thank you. What is that color called? Brindle. What? I don't know. Yeah. Is that a word? Brindle is a word.

It's a thank you. But you know, it's weird. Adam knew a word that I knew and you didn't. Brindle. It's very good. They normally use it for types of dogs that have a black and brown type of coloring pattern. But it's brindle, but it looks like if I took a black shoe and then rub it across the cement a bunch of times and made it kind of, yeah.

You know what I mean? Like it's getting washed it up a bit. Yeah. It has a worn t-shirt look to it. What do you like it? Nike's better than other brands of shirts? Because I noticed you typically wear Nike's. Well, I mean, Nike is, what Nike's done a good job with

is so many different styles. And designers shoes. So you can, with Nike, like most shoes, like, say, like, for example, like DC is a popular, like, skater brand, right? And it's a popular skater brand because it pretty much only appeals to skaters because the shoe was designed that way.

War Nike, Nike has skate shoes, Nike has all Purpose shoes, Nike has cross training shoes, Nike has basketball shoes, Nike has like, they have the... Yeah, really, they do, I mean, so that's why you probably see me where I wear all different types of shoes, but I would say Nike is probably the most popular and it's just because big That's your favorite it seems that way. Well, this is a style of night. These are sp's right so that's the sunba bitches. Yeah, sons of bitches

I think it's just because they get the loudest with their style. Nike. Yeah, they kind of put it out there. I like I don't know I think I think he's louder than them asix is crazy asix are like asix yellow and There's ugly asix all look the same color. They're loud. I like a puma Everybody get crazy I like the old school puma Yeah, and Puma Puma to me you know really only caters to soccer. So if you're into soccer I don't it does The biggest in soccer are they yeah, dude

What else they are you sure about this is their only competition? Mm-hmm. I like the old school remember the old school Puma's that like the old hip hop dudes were When they would compete with the Ditas. Yeah, it was like that's not a soccer shoe. It is dude sure does yeah It is yeah, yeah, yeah, that's weird. Did you know do you know what the word Nike came from? Yes, you know it. Yeah, it is. Yeah. Yeah, that's weird. Did you know what the word Nike came from? Yes. You know what? Yeah, it's a Greek God. God damn it.

It was a Greek God. I'm gonna make out with your Justin. I love it when he's smart. His name was Nike, what was his thing? Nike was a Greek God and I believe was known for being able to travel very quickly, right? Yeah. Quick distances.

It was the one that had like this wing. Had wings on the shoe. Is that what it was? On the feet. Yeah, on the feet. Yeah. You didn't know that, Mr. Shoe. Fucking wizard.

I didn't know that, man. Wow. I didn't think you wouldn't know that. I thought for sure, if anybody would know anything about where the origin of Nike came from. I don't know if I would call myself like a full-blown sneaker head where it's like, especially after watching that documentary,

I watched it with my girl. You feel better about yourself? Yeah, I do feel better about myself. It hasn't consumed my life, you know? I like shoes. And I honestly, when I was a kid, I love shoes and even more so than probably now. And really me revisiting and getting back into having lots of pairs of shoes is just really

getting back into caring about my clothes and fashion and stuff. I lost the drive for that. I mean, there was this lull from like, I don't know, probably 26-ish. Where'd you just stop giving shit? I stopped giving a shit and I started, I was wearing the same stuff over. I'd have one pair of shoes and I'd wear them till they fucking fell off to have a deal

and just not caring. You know, there's... They're liberating, right? Well, there was somewhat to that. See that I'm stuck in that face. But there is something about revisiting and getting back into that. There's something about putting on a nice pair of shoes

that fit and go together with your outfit and it makes me feel better, man. Thanks. I wanted to thank you on air, bro, for treating us to that event last time. Oh, the WWE SmackDown. Dude, so that was an experience. So Adam, Adam does something that gets on my nerve. It's great. He's a great guy.

It gets on my nerves, though. He fucking does something and he's like, it's a surprise.. It gets on my nerves though. He fucking does something and he's like, it's a surprise, I'm not gonna tell you. He's the only person left. I know that can like still pull off a surprise. Yeah, you'll be like, you'll be like, you're the already guys out tomorrow.

To my house foils. Make sure available from 4 p.m. to 8 p.m. and we're like, why? And he's like, it's a surprise. So nobody knows what's going on. I figured out right before we ended up leaving for it, but it was the WWE was a Smackdown. Yeah.

I've never been to anything like that. Yeah, I was excited because it was fun. It's something that we would never do, right? Like here's the thing, like, we were fans, all of us were fans when we were kids. And that's why I did it because I thought, this is cool because none of us would ever, I mean, we didn't know anybody who was wrestling, right?

I know they're coming out and the crowd is going crazy. I'm like, who's that? Actually, I knew one guy. It was like Kane. I think I was the only guy. That's right, Kane was there. So he's got to be old as fuck, right? He's probably in his 50s.

Yeah, so it's none of them forever. None of us watch that anymore, but I thought this would be kind of a, this would be a cool little stroll down memory lane for all of us since we were in as a kid. Dude, the production is ridiculous. And then I was, okay, and I knew that too, right? So I know you guys, we all appreciate business, right?

And we always, oh my God. And I, WWE is a monster, you know? It really, people don't realize how big wrestling is. It's not big on the West Coast. It's, it's definitely like, middle America. Yeah, middle America is like hardcore WWE and back when it was WWF. Like they know the lines, they have like these moments where people start chanting stuff.

I seriously thought I was watching this crazy cult happen right in front of me. They've got fanatical fans, but I'll tell you what man, I am impressed with the athleticism of these freaking people, these athletes, they're huge and they're flipping and landing on their backs and on the dramatic shit. It's crazy. It looks like lots of bunch of, it's like, we mean, look how rare Jiu-Ji is, right?

It's like seeing a whole group of them, you know, a bunch of Jiu-Jis, right? Like six with seven, you know, seven foot D. Just monster. The production quality was amazing. And then there was that moment where we're all kind of, because we're there, we're watching it, but then we're kind of not we're talking business having a good time

We were with our buddy Craig Capurso and then out of fucking nowhere out of nowhere the loudest explosion sound I've ever personally heard of my entire life literally the loud it was like I was mid conversation Craig and jumped in the air Dude I I had my coat and I was turning over and I was talking and then I dropped my coat. Adam was in the greatest mood ever and he got angry and shifted his mood. Adam was looking for some kind of gun or something. He got real serious.

He was like, and he was like taking him out. He was like, he was talking about it all serious. He's like, that's just ridiculous. Why would they make it that loud? I don't understand what that's so loud. I was genuinely scared. It really like, it was very sensitive. Mid conversation with Katrina and it went off.

And it was just like, like, I literally felt my heart like skip a couple of pieces. And it was like, did you, did you, a little bit, you pooped a tiny bit. It was a little squirt. It was worse than that, because I think Greg, that pooped it. Oh my God, I'm I Talk about Craig our boy

Clear the sweet out Clear the sweet out like I forgot what that smells like dude I forgot like it's a little nostalgic the protein parts when you just eat a lot of protein He said that it was heavy you get you have nowhere to hide I'm like I couldn't find a corner in there to get like fresh air killed everybody Dude no shame right? Dude just fucking we're up here. Yeah. Thank God we had it to ourselves Or also would have been really embarrassing if we had like a sweet full of people

No, that's I kind of respect that how much he owned that though You know, I mean he's like yeah Well, I was wondering why after we went God food I was wondering why when we went back like right we have this I, there's I forget how many seats are inside the suite or what like that But there's only what six of us right? There's six there's tons of seats There's all kinds of room there's couches all kinds of stuff anywhere to sit and Craig kind of goes over after we get back He goes over and sits by himself all the way Well, why is he over there and then finally I think when he realized how bad it was he leans over to just like

Yeah, I'm kind of letting it go over here a little bit and then all sudden it comes over and it was like oh Jesus Christ cragger Jesus dude what I wanted to jump out of the suite and go down into the other but it was it was weird because as I was walking I could feel the consistency of the air change yeah it was it was like it was like I was walking through water for a second. I was like, whoa, why am I swimming? Oh my God. Well, Katrina tells powerful after I got actually every time it was powerful.

It was an animal like signal. I grew a little bit. It was a branch. It was impressive. After we dropped all you guys off, Katrina says to me, she goes, you know, every now and then I forget, you know, there's little things about you that I appreciate so much. And I'm like, what are you talking about? She's like, well, because I don't I don't fucking fart in front of her. That's just my thing. Like I go I just I don't know if it was something that I was taught or yeah

I walk out of a room. You never farted in front of your girl. No, I don't never never wow. Yeah, yeah Just don't never never know girls. I just that was my thing. I was the minute you do is the minute that's the day you'll marry her No, that's the one thing. I don't think that has anything to do with it. I don't think that you have kids and then your doors open, pooping. You know, everyone is, everyone is, everyone is said that to me for the longest time and I've, it's never been that hard. First of all, I don't, I don't have a lot of gas. So I feel like I have a pretty good diet.

So my, I'm not backed up a lot, but I'm human. I've heard you a couple times. Yeah, I don't around you guys I would. And I know my, but yeah, thanks for blessing us. Considering we're all a bunch of fitness dudes who, I think people put that, like, oh, because we would eat a bunch of protein, we, but we don't, like, not anymore.

No, no, no, I don't, I'm not. That's why it was nostalgic for me. That's why when I smelled it, I was like, oh, I remember that. It's just nostalgic. I haven't done that in a long time. I was sticking off face of myself. I don't fart like that.

And then when I do, like I said, it's a courtesy to me to walk out of the room and do it real quick. And I'm sure I probably snuck some in there with the dogs, but with the dogs in the room, it's easy because then I can blame it on them. So maybe she's had some of this way. She has kids, bro. And then you watch that all that whole thing happen. That'll break all the walls down. Because you know, sometimes they put you know that Adam, sometimes they poop. Yeah, but you heard of that. I have one. I have a baby, it's a tough one. I was the oldest five, so I already had my, I already had my fair share of raising kids as a kid myself.

So I don't know, I don't know if that's why I don't know if I'm gonna step into daddy world, you know what I'm saying? Like I'm okay with not. Yeah, you know, if you have, you'll be, you're just being uncle to my kids and the judge. Yeah, and I think I'd be great for that, you know what I'm saying? I'll come over and hang out with them and teach them all the things they need to know and stuff

and they send them back to you guys. Yeah, that's good stuff uncle wizard What the hot oh my god, it's farting Today's quads being brought to you by Kai Maricopi It's the only coffee that is infused with all natural neutropics for a cleaner, calmer, and more focused fuzz without the crash. Click the Kai Maricopi link at MindPumpMedia.com and input the discount code MindPump.com Check out for 10% off!

It's the motherfucking quads! The English Landis! Quikwa... Our first question comes from Seamete's world. How can you work on symmetry? First, we need to define symmetry, right? Because we've heard in the muscle building world, there's terms like balance, symmetry, aesthetics,

and they're all used kind of interchangeably, right? What is the difference? I'm gonna ask you Adam, what's the difference between balance and symmetry? What is balance mean, or are they the same? Well, they can be considered the same. I think if I were to use a word like balance, I think I'm referring more to muscle and balances

and being more balanced like that. When I'm talking about symmetry, I'm talking about looking the same on both sides, right? So that's what I would think, right? Because balance would be more like, are your quads too big for your hamstrings or does your upper body match your lower body? If everything kind of matches that balance,

but then symmetry would be left to right. Yeah, if you were to try and break it up, although I think the terms are used. They're used interchangeably. They are. They really are. I think some people like, oh, it's got a great balanced, although I think the terms are used. They're used interchangeably. They are. They really are. I think some people like to, oh, he's got a great balanced body.

I think someone said that. They would also be referring to him having a very symmetrical body also. So they kind of go hand in hand. I'm assuming this guy or girl, is it a guy or girl? I don't remember. Yeah, whatever it is.

The human, this human is asking, you symmetry referring to, how do you build a symmetrical physique? We're gender neutral. And it's really not that it's not that challenging as far as what you need to do. It's time consuming and it takes time. You know, like if you have an major imbalance and by imbalance, I mean, when I'm saying imbalance, this way, I'm not talking like muscular or deviations like that.

I'm talking like, yeah, visually that you have an imbalance. It may take longer to catch that up. And some people are born, and when we used to use semano types a lot, Mesoacto and Omarif, we would refer to somebody that is a meso morph, it's probably somebody who was very symmetrical, right? Some people have these genetics where even, and you could see it as a kid,

you could see them early on. They've got, as a little tiny kid, they've already got good little calves to their quads, to their, you know, they're not huge and muscular yet. They're still a child, but the balance of their body is very, even. Then you see a kid like me, if you saw me when I was growing up, I was this little skinny beanpole and I was really lanky, you know, I was super lanky and I didn't have big shoulders on me. If you saw me when I was growing up, I was this little skinny bean pole and I was really lanky, you know, super lanky and I didn't have big shoulders on me. It was very inbalanced or unsymmetrical looking at me growing up. So it's taking a lot of work for me to create a symmetrical look. And a lot of that is learning to, which I think

the hardest part and the most discipline is laying off the things that you are dominant on your physique and focusing on the things that are not. And that's really tough to do. For example, calves are my thing. That's probably one of my weakest points for sure. But motherfucker, do I train those more than anything else? And I have to do that just to have them where they're at right now. And it still needs more attention. And it can be daunting sometimes that

we'll go in the gym and be like, oh, today's arm day or oh, today's shoulder day if you're a body parts split guy and go, but I need to do calves, you know, but calves are so boring and I want to do arms. And you have to, if it's a, if symmetry is a priority to you, then you have to address the things that need work. I mean, this is really what Maps Black is all about. I mean, Maps. It's designed specifically to create symmetrical balance body. It's exactly. It's designed to help people show them how do you program design for this?

So how would I incorporate? Because you don't obviously want to stop everything else you're doing. You still want to work your other body parts, but how do you now create these lagging body parts as a priority so they start to come up and start to match the rest of your body? So that's really what matters. I think what's important to understand with this is if you start working out with good programming, you're not going to run into a lot of problems with symmetry and balance. You know, if you start working out and you're hitting your entire body, you're working

your legs, you're working your upper body, you're doing your back, like you're supposed to, your calves, like you're supposed to, as your body develops, it's gonna develop in a much more symmetrical balanced way. I think a lot of the symmetry point. It is because I think a lot of the symmetry. The symmetry point. It is because I think a lot of the symmetry and balance issues that I run into are from people who come to me and they've been working out for a couple of years already

and they've neglected body parts. I'll have guys come to me all the time and they just don't work out their legs or they just started working their legs out. For the first year I lived away, it's I didn't work my legs or I never did any rows for my back. I just did pull downs.

And so there's a imbalance in the way my back looks, or I'll have women who, you know, oh, I lift weights for my glutes and my legs, but I don't really do much for my arms because I don't wanna get big bulky arms or whatever. And so they developed this imbalance, kind of looking for Zekso. Step number one, when you start training,

put equal emphasis on things. Now, if you're already at a point where you've noticed the imbalance, Adam made a fantastic point. It's definitely, and this is obvious, put more focus on the area that you want to develop more, but you also should probably take a little bit of focus off the areas that are overpowering, because that's going to allow things to kind of catch up a little bit of focus off the areas that are overpowering, because that's gonna allow things to kind of catch up a little bit. So you're talking about more like unilateral training focus. You could do unilateral training.

If it's more of a balanced thing, if you notice your hamstrings are super underdeveloped and your quads are just huge, you might, aside from working your hamstrings more, you might wanna lay off a little bit on the quads, let them catch up a little bit, and then when you go, you know, when things balance out, then you can start training things, you know,

a little more equally. I see a lot of imbalance issues aesthetically speaking from athletes. Athletes have the biggest issues with imbalance. I trained a kid who was a pitcher, and he had been a pitcher for most of his life. And he got, at this point, he was in college, and he had a a pitcher for most of his life. And he got at this point, he was in college and he had a 90 mile per hour fastball,

very, very talented kid. And you should see the imbalance between his arm that he throws with and the arm that he doesn't. Well, the patterns are all in one direction. In one direction. Yeah, and so we would have to really focus on, well, this is great, those balancing things out.

This kind of brings up a topic that's irritating me as far as certain functional gurus out there that all they want to do is correct like imbalances with athletes. And they don't realize it like a lot of these positions contribute to performance in their sport, especially like boxing and having protracted shoulders. And, you know, they're not going to be able to generate the type of force and power, you know, being in a super balanced symmetrical postural position all the time.

Now, you're speaking now, is this because of what's that one trainer that's been training people that way and his fighters get knocked out because he's having him stand with a Oh, yeah, yeah, Pedro not paid is a Pedro. I don't know. The guy does all the the single single like he always does Multi-plane your unilateral fucking natural movements. That's And his fighters are showing up. There's anything natural about and they're standing with like tall posture like I have neutral spine Right right right. Well, I mean that that, that, that kind of stuff. I'm starting to see that more just, you know, just with the, it, the pendulum kind of going in that direction of like, well, let's fix all these imbalances and let's make sure,

like everybody's in this neutral spinal line, and, uh, everything should, should perform at its optimal, uh, capacity. But, you know, certain sports, that's not the case. You know what? You need to, that's such a good point. Well, almost all sports. I mean, I've always. Well, sports are literally to be excellent, like at a super high level, in a particular

sport, you're not balanced. Thank you. Yeah, I've always told people they're, it's an extreme. It's unhealthy for the body. Yeah. And it's so hard because we look at our app. It's not fitness. Everybody looks at out and aspires to be like them, right?

I mean, all your superstars and all these great athletes and everybody wants to be like them. But when you actually dissect it and look at it from a health and longevity thing, like playing a sport, especially if you've made it all the way to professional level, these people have created their bodies, their bodies. Yeah, they're in balance.

They're in balances regardless of what they look like on TV or whatever like that, they're in balances are unreal. I mean, especially athletes athletes are so anterior driven like everything. Well, it depends on the sport. I mean, think about your position. If you're a, if you're playing a sport, if you're playing, if you're a lineman, you got to get really, really good at very specific set of skills and other skills you could give a shit about. Like it doesn't matter if you're a lineman and you can hit a golf ball, nobody cares. Well, it's just like, like swim or whatever. So why pictures can't hit.

Yeah. Right. Don't you find that funny that it's that you're a baseball player, you've been a baseball player, you're an entire like you're a professional, but you can't hit a fucking baseball. Oh, yeah. It's like so rare. You're like, oh my god. Like I see some pictures like hit a home run.

Everybody's like, wow. Yeah. You guys know that one takes, everybody's like, wow. Yeah. You guys know that one takes away from the other, right? Because you know, and to them, it doesn't matter that they're in balance like that because they have to throw 100 mile an hour fastball. They do, and did you guys know back in the day in the Olympics, they would look at the athletes

and they would consider the perfect athletes to be able to do everything. And so the Olympic athletes all kind of look the same. They were like, man, that were about 5'10, weighed about 165 pounds or something like that, or 175 pounds, I forgot what it was. And that was considered to be like, oh, you're an Olympic athlete

because you're this balanced physique that can kind of do everything. And now if you look at the Olympics and you take the athletes and you line them all up, very specialized. Very specialized. They look at the Olympics and you take the athletes and you line them all up. Very specialized. Very specialized. They look so different, it's crazy. The endurance, the long distance runner looks

like a completely different human compared to like a- That's a the shop putter. Exactly. Well, this is why when I was mentioning, we talked about symmetry, right? This, we used to talk about semano types and the Meso Morph used to, just like you said. The Meso Morph body type we used to think was the perfect, you know, athletic build and

the reason why that is because they were the most balanced. They were probably the best, you know, or not the best, they were good at everything, right? They weren't maybe they weren't the best at doing one thing, but they were considered the most athletic because he could shot put, he could wrestle, he could squat, he could bench, he could do all these things. And when you take somebody like that, then you take them and you say, okay, let's put them in a swimming pool and compare them to somebody who's not a Meso Morph body type and they're more acto morph.

Oh, look at this. This athlete actually would surpass him because he was built more like a canoe. So finding it funny. And we've, and I think that's one of the things with how the evolution of sports, I think we've mentioned this before is, you know, that's one of the biggest things that we've seen is as we've evolved, we've learned this. We've found out early on now, when you, you can see your kid at an age right now, and you know, once he's hit through, especially once he's gone through puberty and say like,

oh, this is your body. These are, there's, here's the, the array of sports that you're, you could excel at. Now, this is not saying that you can't go play this sport and still be good at it. Of course you can. Anybody can do that. And don't ever let someone tell you can't, but don't get it twisted.

You most certainly, there are sports that your body type is definitely built more force. As far as symmetry, I mean, body building physique of these types of things, these are sports. And these are sports that, you sports that will judge you on your symmetry and will judge you on the balance of the look of your body and your posturing. So, I mean, that's probably as close as you're gonna get

to having that, you know, be an example. Screwed eyes, what I think. I think those visual sports, you know, like bodybuilding, physique, you know, be an example. Screwed eyes, what? I think those visual sports, you know, like bodybuilding, physique, you know, bikini, all these things, I think that they take these visual cues that we tend to associate with health and fitness, you know, visual cues that humans are naturally attracted to

and then they just exaggerate them. So it is a natural visual cue to see that a man has narrow, a narrow waist and broad shoulders because that typically will mean he's got higher testosterone levels, probably going to pass on better genes. And so in bodybuilding, they exaggerate the shit out of it and you've got guys wearing queens and you know, I still don't understand the narrow waist thing because I feel like, you know, maybe that's in contrast to having like a potbellier, you know, like, so it's hip to waist ratio because that's what it is.

It creates the illusion, right? That they look bigger, broader because they're waist. So the chest looks bigger. Yes. Having that narrow waist exaggerate, you know, last night when we were talking, that irritates the show. testosterone does that. The hormone testosterone influences how we like women will have broader, you know, last night when we were talking about irritates the show. That's what testosterone does, that the hormone testosterone influences how we,

like women will have broader, you know, broader hips. And that's what estrogen does for men, testosterone broadens the shoulder. So it's just a, it's a sign of healthy, it's a sign of healthy testosterone. All we've done is we've taken these, these, these, these visual cues, and we've exaggerated them. Same thing with breasts. And this is like women get implants and you know, developing the glutes and then they exaggerate their posture by putting themselves

in lordosis so they can stick their ass out and all that's different things. It's just taking the visual cues and exaggerating them and then you go on a stage and you present yourself. Well, this was last night, I don't know if you guys heard when I was Craig and I were talking. And you know, he was mentioning like, you know, remember when he was saying how, you know, he's almost don't know if you guys heard when I was Craig and I were talking. And, you know, he was mentioning like, you know, remember when he was saying how, you know,

he's almost ashamed of that he would even classify himself as a men's physique guy with some of the, because of his peers are all idiots and stuff, right? And I was telling him like, you know, you can't beat yourself up because I remember when I first met you, like that was one of the things that we hit it off was, you know, I saw, while this guy actually gets it, you know,

the whole purpose of doing this, like he had a bigger grander picture. And I told him that, you know, I actually take a lot of pride in the fact that I went and did something like this because I don't think I belong in that category of people like, I don't have, you wouldn't look at me off the street and go like, oh, I bet he would be a great men's physique athlete or I bet he'd be a great bodybuilder. Like, that's what was so to me, I take that more than anything else is, is that

I wanted to show people that you can still go do something like that and not be built for it. But at the same token, I can also feel my body fighting against me because it doesn't want that look. It doesn't want to look like that. Like it's not advantageous for my body. It doesn't, it wants to, like I've always said, it wants to get in a pool and swim, you know.

You just, but you want to. I bet if you went after swimming, you would have done pretty well. Yeah, you can tell just when I, when I get it at the long arms and, and I have no, I have no former technique or mechanics, even when I do that, I've never been formally taught and I'm still pretty decently fast enough. And, and like right now, I, I don't train for that. I trained for being a bodybuilder, looking guy. So imagine if actually I cared about being lighter and leaner and faster in the pool for sure. But that's the point is that, you know, some people already have this natural symmetry.

You know, they already look like that. Does that mean that someone like me or like whoever's asking this question that you can't build? Absolutely. You can build it. You can work towards it. I think it takes a lot more work for someone like us. I think that if you naturally already were born with some of these imbalances or you lack

that natural symmetry, like a mesomorph type, a body type, it's gonna take some extra work. Those guys, you're, you know, and it's always that guy who's giving the advice, right? It's always that mince physique or body builder guy who was symmetrical before he even touched the weights. Then he touched weights,

and then he looks big and symmetrical who's giving advice to these fucking kids on how to train. It's like, dude, stop. I was do a post actually, it refers just like this. I was going to do a post about my calves and I was going to say, like, are you still taking advice from guys that had calves before they started doing calves? The biggest calves in the gym where the guys don't work them out. I know, right? That's the truth.

And the same thing with these guys that are teaching you just them. Symmetry and stuff, like these, some of the most symmetrical, best looking dudes on stage right now were already really symmetrical before they got started. You know, it makes me think too. If you're a relatively young kid and you're listening right now, if you're in your teens or very early 20s, like 18, 19, 20 years old, focus on those body parts now that you may find to be weak or whatever underdeveloped. And really hammer them now.

You're in a great position because I know for myself, I placed special emphasis on certain body parts when I was a kid. And they're my delts, for example. I had no shoulders. But I think because I hammered them so much through the tender ages of 15, 16, 17, 18, when your hormones are coming through and your bodies probably more likely to go through things like muscle, you know, fiber hyperplasia It's become now a strength. So I think if you get in there early and really go after it You you might be able to turn a weakness into a strength. Well, and that's the discipline part right here, right?

I'd ask I 100% agree with you. I mean, I I don't train arms ever But that's because I did fucking five days away from literally 15 to like 20, you know, I'm saying. So now I have the benefits of not having to touch them all the time. So I think if you have that mental discipline to do that, and it's hard because how many guys do this too? And how many times were you, somebody who did this where you had your bro split and you did, you know, Mondays, Chess, Tuesdays, this, Wednesdays, legs, whatever. And then, you know, two, three weeks of good consistency. And then shit happens, right? Your party gets sick or you fall off

the wagon for a few days and you come start back, where do you always start back? Hey, start with a week. Yeah, you have faith. Well, you should start your favorite. You start with your favorite is what you normally do. You never miss chest. You never miss arm or whatever. Right? But you don't go. If you end if you missed it, if I ever missed the day, it was leg day, 100. 100%. Luckily, my legs respond really. Yeah. And that's just how I feel how it is with most people is when they fall off a routine or they miss a day, they just, they keep their routine going and make

sure they don't miss their favorite workouts. Where in reality, you should probably be continuing to hit those muscles that are lagging to, to catch them up. And if you skip anything, you skip your strengths, you know. Art of April is asking, do you feel that you have mastered self-control, or are there other areas of your life that you feel are lacking because you're so disciplined with your health? Wow, what would you get some self-awareness going on? You know why this is interesting? You know, obviously working in the fitness industry, as long as I have, I know a lot of people

who have lots of self control when it comes to fitness, they'll bring their food with them everywhere, even though we've destroyed that myth of having to eat small meals, requires a ridiculous amount of discipline to do so. And I know a lot of people throughout the years who've carried their food with them everywhere who never missed a workout, but the rest of their life, a lot of people throughout the years who've carried their food with them everywhere who never missed a workout But the rest of their life a lot of these people was It was all it was lacking like they didn't do good and work or business or they didn't take any risks They didn't take it well. I feel like I Think sometimes especially if you have a little bit of an issue with your your relationship to exercise in food where it becomes obsessive.

I think it gives, sometimes gives people the false sense of control. Like, okay, my life is shit. I've, you know, I've got this, you know, I'm kind of depressed. I have bad relationships with my friends and family. So I'm going to just nail down my diet and exercise because it makes me feel like I have

definitely not left that. A sense of control. And it's true when you talk to people who have very bad eating disorders, a lot of times they'll tell you that. It makes them feel like they're in control. It gives them a sense of control that they can control something. So I could see it going in that direction. Now on the flip side, when you're talking

about normal healthy individuals, I've only seen people who start incorporating exercise and diet and being more consistent with it. I've only seen it benefit other areas of the life. Well, what about you though? I mean, how do you feel about yourself here? I mean, so do you feel you have mastered self-control? Where do you stand on this?

Do you feel like somebody who's like really honed in on their discipline? Or do you feel because you are so great with your health that it throws you out of whack with your other balance? Like, for example, I know you also, I don't, you know, you're, you still have a very good balance with your children. Like I see people that become extreme, like if you're pro at something and like you're so good at this thing, then you kind of like have shitty relationships and you have a bad father. And you know, a lot of people don't talk about that stuff

because we don't, these are the people that we idolize because they're fucking famous and there's not, but most of those people, which is also why I've never been star-struck type of person because I know this. I know that most of these guys, if what created them to be this fucking crazy. Yeah, they have the other side that they're,

I mean, they're, then they're a horrible father, they're a bad person. They're like, there's these, it's rare that you find somebody who has mastered a craft that they're, to the point where they are fucking known for it, they're so good at it. And then they've still created balance in their life for it's not something else since being sacrificed.

I think, you know, it's interesting. As a kid, and I'm lucky to have been raised in a very strong, tight family. And I was taught through observation. So, and this is something for your parents out there. You know, you're gonna say a lot of things to your kids that they're gonna learn from watching and observing, way more than anything you'll ever say. And what I observed was, if you worked hard,

if you wanted something and you applied yourself and you didn't make excuses that you can accomplish quite a bit. And so at a very young age, if I decided that I wanted something, then I felt like there were no limits. I never had the, in my mind, I never thought to myself, you know, I can't do that. I always thought to myself, if I want to do that, I can, and I will. And so when I decided something, if I decided, hey, I'm gonna learn,

you know, I'm gonna learn how to write my BMX bike really well, then I would. If I said, I'm gonna lift weights and I'm gonna build muscle, then I would. If I want to learn a subject, then I would. And I wouldn't let anything stop me. And a lot of it was because I didn't know any better. I didn't know that things could stop me.

All I knew was that if I had the discipline to do it, it would happen. And so this is kind of my attitude towards everything. Now the bad, the only bad thing I could say is that I don't always decide that I necessarily want to put that discipline to something. And that's when I lack. Like if I say to myself, I can be very disorganized. I can be an extremely disorganized individual. And I can get away with it. And so I don't think I placed the importance on it. And so then it lacks. But if I decide, well, something, I need to do it. It happens. Yeah. I mean, that's the nature of the beast. I mean, you can't, you can't be awesome and have like control over everything. And it's really about, I think, I think basically like from this question

and like mastering self-control, I think as far as like understanding what it takes in each one of these compartments of your life, like what it takes to maintain balance and when something gets out of balance recognizing that and then putting effort back in that and swaying the pendulum a bit, but not you know losing momentum in one of the major pillars that you're trying to establish as far as like your goals and like what you're trying to establish as far as like your goals and like what you're trying to do and accomplish. But you have to define that. And I think like as far as what I'm at in life,

like in having kids and having a family and all that, that's a high priority for me. Business is a high priority for me. Like working out a high priority for me, like working out as a high priority for me. So those are major things. And so every day is an assessment of where I'm at with either one of those pillars and just going out throughout my day,

I have to fluctuate where I'm at with this. And then now I'm gonna pick this one back up. And I'm not gonna stress out that I didn't get this one part of my pillar. I'm gonna help you. Because there's always a given take, right? It's a balance. Balance is flexibility. You know, it's being able to kind of adjust

and make little micro adjustments long ways instead of like freaking out and making humongous adjustments. You know, they do studies on children that were, they'll present the children with, like they'll have kids in a room and they'll say, okay, here's a cookie. Now, you can eat the cookie now, but if you wait an hour, then you'll get another cookie. So if you don't eat this cookie now, in an hour, you'll have another cookie and you'll have two cookies. And some kids will just eat the cookie that's

in front of them. And some kids will wait so that they can get the second cookie. And they follow these children throughout their lives. There was one study that was rather large where they followed these kids throughout their lives. And you know what they found? Very, very strong relationship between the kids who waited, who had self-control, were far more successful in life. Being able to understand if I hold off now,

I'm going to benefit later on, the ones that have more self-control who weren't so impulsive were more successful. And so it's important to understand that. That self-control and understanding that that is an important factor of being successful, you can apply it to almost anything. And I think Adam, I think you're the one that always says,

you know, how you do one thing, you do all things. Yeah. Anything is how you do everything. There you go. Self-control is an important factor for long-term success because all of us want to be impulsive. You know, it's a natural human trait to want to do something that you want to do right now

the second and get that immediate gratification. Self-control, you know, kind of delays that a little bit for something better later on. So I think you have to look at your values and priorities, weigh them out and decide when self-control is in your best interest and when being impulsive sometimes in your best interest also. Well, I read this and I also look at it and go like, okay, she says that so focused on health. I think we put off an impression like we're like all day long, we're tracking, like,

because I say I like the track and I do think like then so we're like figuring things out and like you go to eat and you're like, oh, I'm not gonna do this because I need this. Like, it's a lot easier than that for us at this point because of how long we've been doing this. I don't think, especially these guys in here, I don't, there's nobody in here I feel it's obsessive about anything that we do. We all care about

health, we all respect that, we'll make a decision, we eat out together a lot because we're traveling or we're doing things together. Someone will say, what do you guys feel like? Then someone will be like, well, my stomach feels this way and I feel like getting some with that. The other guy will be like, oh, yeah, that sounds cool. I don't really feel like and then someone will be like, well, you know, my stomach feels this way and I feel like getting some with that and the other guy will be like, oh, yeah, that sounds cool. I don't really feel like this. And, you know, it's just like a normal conversation, but I think we are just more aware of how our body feels and what types of foods would be best for us.

And so it's not like there's like this heavy, like, you know, focused or like there's major discipline involved to do it. I can't have that. Yeah, and we talk a lot about this growth in making connections and connecting the dots to food and how it makes you feel. And once you've really connected a lot of those dots, and mind you, we are all still growing and we all agree that we're none of us have like mastered anything. We're still getting better. But when you've been doing it for as long as you have or we have, you know, it's very natural. It's not very hard for us to do it all. And

kind of like what Justin said, there's always this given taken things when I feel like my diet is really, really dialed. And I'm putting extra emphasis on that. You know, I typically the business isn't my business isn't really killing it at the time. And when I'm killing it and business really well, I'm, you know know missing some of my gyms and I'm missing some of the meals that I should be probably be eating and so You know, it's just being aware of that at all times and and kind of floating back and forth And I don't think any of us really stress ourselves. There's probably more pressure on us now to be In shape and keep ourselves that way because we're in the limelight now than ever and I don't feel it

I don't feel like oh my God, I can't do this. Or I gotta have self-control because we're gonna be on TV or there's gonna be going on here. Like, you freak out. It's like, it's a lot more natural and easier than that. And I definitely, I think we all know that when you put any more energy, when I'm competing, I'm very out of balance. When I'm competing and I'm putting that much in,

but I also don't believe that's a way of living. I don't think that, I don't recommend that for anybody. You know, that was... No, how the hell can you do that? Yeah, I don't think that's healthy. It's not a healthy thing to do. I think it was an accomplishment or a goal, but other than that, I think we have pretty good balance, man.

Brenda, for ES 51, would you consider doing a tour across the US holding conferences and talks? Oh, yeah. Oh, that would be fun. We've already done a few of these. Yeah. And we've done quite a few already. We're heading to Canada. We're going to be down in Orange County. Like we got a lot of stuff coming up. I love love. This is the part of our business. I think I love the most is meeting people and speaking to people in person. It really gets me excited because I can see the people that I'm actually, you know, like right now I'm talking on this, this might be like a response for once.

Yeah, like right now we're talking on this mic and the only people I'm looking at are the guys that, you know, in the room with me. I don't see who I'm reaching, you know, face to face. When I'm in front of people, when I'm in a room with 300, 500,000 people, and I'm talking about something, I can see the impact right away. And I can get the feedback right away.

I can see what's happening, I can feel it, I can feel the energy. It is, it's like a high man. I absolutely love it. And would I like to travel and reach and touch more people in person? Hell yeah, absolutely. I mean, we've had a few invitations

and we almost always take them. So, you know, we've gone to companies and talk to people and, you know, if you want us to come talk, I mean, just contact us and let us know. We'll work some out. It's a part of our business that, I mean, I predict in 2017, we'll be doing a lot of it 2018 is probably when we would do like an official tour like when we have

that many places and locations across the US that we could line up and we could guarantee we're gonna see X amount of people at the venue or what do I like that I think that's very realistic maybe we'll get Metall could open for us. Oh my god. But right now we that's kind of how, I mean, we're, I think, real soon here, you guys will see that up on our website because we've talked about this before. We're since we're already doing it. Companies are paying us to come out and do this, this stuff already. And we don't even really offer it or promote it or talk about it. And that's just because we haven't set it up. We haven't put it up on the website. We have a lot on our plate right now.

So we do the ones that we can, when we can. But eventually, I think this will be a big part of our business. In fact, I hope that's a majority of what we do is touring and getting in front of people. Because we could eventually do stuff like this on the road. I mean, we could light up mics or we can record the event live and then post it so people can watch and listen. but then also be able to impact people in person. Like Sal said, I think that's probably our favorite. I enjoy that more than anything.

I get a feeling, man, that I don't get with anything else. There's a lot of things that I do that I really enjoy, but there's a few things that I do where I feel like, you know, you get that feeling where you're like, man, this is what I'm supposed to do. Yeah. Yeah, it hits you right in the nuts. Like this is what I'm supposed to do. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

Talking on the podcast is one of them. Definitely talking in front of people is another one. I will say that I'm far more developed, you know, in terms of my skill on the mic because we do it all the time. But the more these talks that we do with people, the more I feel that coming out. And it's, it's an interesting feeling. I mean, the last one we did, the last seminar we did, it was like, after about five, ten minutes in, once we get the cobwebs out, it's like, you're just, I don't know, I felt

like this is what we're supposed to, this is part of what we're supposed to do, is go around and meet people and talk to them and, you know, get to see their faces. 100% it's coming for sure. It's already happening right now. We just haven't been formal about it right now. I mean, we've already, I don't know how many we've done now, but we've done quite a few already in the area and we've even traveled a little bit to go to places. So it's happening. We just haven't been official about it and actually organize a tour and see what that takes to do that. Panda muscle is asking, can fitness be an addiction?

Better question would be can what can't be an addiction? Anything can be an addiction. Anything at all. Fitness definitely can be an addiction. You can 100% have a poor relationship with exercise and it can be a drug. I've seen it a million times. I see it all the time. Yeah, perfect case scenario. One of my friends, I've just watched his personality.

A lot of times you can recognize like addictive type personalities. It started out with skateboarding. And skateboarding was everything and he wore all the gear and he was all about skateboarding. And next he was a bull rider. Yeah, he's the bull rider and he's got all the cowboy and everything. He's tuned tobacco and you know, and now the sudden he's a bodybuilder

and he's like shredded and he's just 100% all about it and just crazy, crazy, crazy, like all in. And just, I mean, to the extreme, he just took everything to the extreme. Yeah. And I mean, it the extreme, it just took everything to the extreme. Yeah. And I mean, it was very apparent that, you know, you can get like so deep in anything and obsess about it and make it like your whole world. Yeah, I, you know, I think exercise

is a small addiction for me. And the reason why I say that, I mean, as much as I try to focus on health and wellness and balance, I'll tell you why I think I have a little bit of an addiction to exercise because I gav with draw symptoms if I don't get it. And I don't mean for a long periods of time, like missing one workout, sure that you know,

it's not gonna really affect me that much, right? For my physical performance health, all that kind of stuff. But mentally, it's like I didn't get my workout and I can almost, if I allow myself to all obsess over it. So it's definitely something you can become addicted to. It's something that can be very dangerous. Over exercising is very, very bad for your health and for your body. You gotta remember that exercise is a stress on the body.

That's why your body gets healthier when you exercise properly. That stress is a signal for your body to adapt. But if you over apply stress, you overcome your body's ability to adapt, and you only end up damaging yourself to the point where you can literally kill yourself. They've done autopsies on extreme endurance athletes who just dropped dead their hearts will just stop because there's this

You know, there's a lot quite a few cases of that happening and they'll examine their hearts and they'll look at the heart And they'll see damage that that's on the heart. They'll see that the person heart, you know, who's 32 years old looks like he's someone who's 70 years old Same thing with lifting weights. You continue to, if you lift all the time, aside from joint issues and imbalances and wear and tear, you're just gonna keep tearing muscle down. You can get to the point where you can make yourself very, very sick. You know, I go, there's a gym that I work out at sometimes.

I don't wanna say where because I don't wanna call anybody out, but there's this lady that comes in and she's definitely underweight, extremely underweight. I would definitely bet money that there's some kind of eating disorder, but she comes in, she wears a weight vest, so she'll walk in, she's very, very, very skinny, unhealthfully, so she'll have a weight vest, she puts it on, and the entire time I'm lifting weights and warming up and cooling down.

So you're talking about an hour and a half. She is on a stairmaster the entire time just with the weight vest on and just going and I know I mean she's addicted to exercise. She probably has an eating disorder and that is using exercise in the wrong way. She's only hurting herself. I find that's an extreme case but most people that are like that too, I feel like it's less of the fitness they're addicted to and more of the look or the feeling that it gives you or that's what it kind of turns into, right? Like normally people like that are like obsessed with looking skinny, right? Like they put on a pound and they go, oh my God, I'm getting fat and it's's like, they're obsessing over that so much

that it translates into this crazy amount of fitness, a crazy amount of exercise in order to achieve that because they don't know, they don't know any other way to do it. They don't know better. You know what I'm saying? They don't know what they're really doing. They think that this is like everybody else like,

oh, if you want to lose fat, do cardio, do cardio, do cardio. I don't know, see, I've also worked with people who are just addicted to the exercise. Like I've worked with clients who are so anxious, they're so stressed out in their life, they're so whatever that they gotta keep moving. Like they can't since, because if they sit still. Well, it's almost like those people,

so I've dealt with those clients also, those team tend to be like, it's like a punishment for them. They look at fitness like they're addicted to the punishment of getting hammered. And those are the clients that always were like, you know, what are you gonna bring to me today? Like, and I remember being a bad trainer back here.

Like, I mean, I remember feeding into that and being like, you know, giving her a harder workout and a harder workout, just challenging her more. And it's like, this is what she wants. You know what I'm saying? She's paying for me to give like this, these more and more challenging workouts. When in reality, like, just challenging or more. It's like, this is what she wants. You know what I'm saying? She's paying for me to give like this, these more and more challenging workouts

when in reality like, you know, a wiser older version of me would have sat down and been like, what am I doing? Like, this is the last thing this lady needs. Like, she hammers herself with stress all day long at work and then when she sees me, she wants me to punish her for the bad food choices that she made and that's this sick relationship.

Well, that's how I feel the fitness industry. It just feeds into all these insecurities and leads people into different addiction paths. That's what the fitness industry is to me. It's not a health driven industry. It's an addiction driven industry. It's trying to lead you into the punishment and pain circuit or it's going to lead you into the, oh, look it. Look at how awesome you could be if you starve yourself and fuck it and take a bunch

of anabolic and, you know, look this way for a minute. And then over here, you know, you have, you know, XYZ, but it's, it's all like driven into these extremes instead of celebrating the health and vitality. Like people need to focus on. Here's the thing, fitness needs to be, if you wanna work out, if you wanna eat right, if you're looking at fitness and you wanna make sure that it contributes to your life, you have to do it for this reason right here.

Fitness is about, real fitness is about self love. It is not about self hate. If your motivation to work out is because you hate something about yourself, if you hate your body, you hate the way you look, you hate something, you are heading down the wrong path. I've been on that path. I was initially motivated to work out because I hated the way I looked. I hated the fact that I was skinny. And that is what pushed me to do lots of things to my body that were not beneficial for health. It created some bad relationships with exercise

and with diet with me, force feeding myself and making these crazy shakes that, I'm pretty sure all this stuff contributed to some of my gut issues, rather than going into fitness for self love. If you go into fitness because you love yourself, because I like making myself feel good, well I'm gonna do this because it's good for me.

A lot of the decisions you're gonna make are gonna be the right ones, not the wrong ones. There's a massive difference between that. And I know some people listening right now are getting their paradigm shattered. I mean, really ask yourself this, what motivates you to work out? Is it because you don't like the way you look

or is it because you love yourself? Ask yourself that question. If it's because you hate yourself, you gotta revisit your motivation to exercise because I promise you, if you stay on that path, the destination at the end of that path is not good. It is not what you think you're gonna get. You're not gonna get happy with that.

Well, it makes even harder to connect the dots we always talk about too, because those are the things, you're not focusing on those things. You're not looking at all the little subtle things Well, it makes even harder to connect the dots. We always talk about too, because those are the things. You're not focusing on those things. You're not looking at all the little subtle things that you are doing by eating healthy or being better. You're solely focused on looking, not looking like the person you are right now and the goal

that you want to be and not getting there fast enough that you're searching for all these avenues to get you there. And the, oh, this, I heard this works. Oh, I want to try this or my friend did this versus take a deep breath you got in this because you love yourself because you can't you do today. Yeah and what are you doing already? What are you enjoying? What are you what are you already make? I mean you made a decision right now you went from being unhappy and wanting to change and be a healthier person and maybe the intentions were right when you first started but then you got so focused on this not liking the way you look and wanting to look a certain way that you've been detoured on instead of celebrating

all the little things that are starting to happen inside and the better habits that you're creating and the better sleep that you're having, the better relationships that you're having, all these other great side effects that tend to happen when you start to be a healthier person and love yourself, you're so focused on the goal and that ends up getting people to be told. Yeah, I mean, think about it like, you know, I'm, think about it this way. I'm working out because I love my body versus, I'm working out because I hate my body.

You know what I'm saying? Think about that for a second. Both of them can motivate you to start exercising, but the end result is very different with both those scenarios. The way you go about, you know, getting in shape or whatever is different with both scenarios. The end result is different. The way you feel about yourself is different. So when it comes to fitness, look at it as self-love and you're going to be in a situation that's

going to be better off. If you look at, if you motivated by self hate, you're gonna go down the path of exercise addiction, horrible food relationships. You're gonna go down the path of damaging your body, damaging your relationships with people. You turn into a Sith. And you turn into a Sith. That's right.

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