Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 392: Eating & Training for Body Type, Reversing Adrenal Fatigue, Mind Pump Internships & MORE
Episode Date: October 28, 2016Kimera-Quah! In this episode of Quah, sponsored by Kimera Koffee (kimerakoffee.com, code "mindpump" for 10% off), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about why 3,500 calories = 1 pound of bo...dy fat is somewhat arbitrary, the best diet/training method for each body type, how to reverse adrenal fatigue and the difference from mental and physical stress and becoming a Mind Pump intern. Have Sal, Adam & Justin personally train you with a new video every day on our new YouTube channel, Mind Pump TV. Be sure to Subscribe for updates. Get MAPS Anabolic, MAPS Performance, MAPS Aesthetic and the Butt Builder Blueprint (The RGB Super Bundle) packaged together at a substantial DISCOUNT at www.mindpumpmedia.com. Please subscribe, rate and review this show! Each week our favorite reviewers are announced on the show and sent Mind Pump T-shirts! Have questions for Mind Pump? Each Monday on Instagram (@mindpumpradio) look for the QUAH post and input your question there. (Sal, Adam & Justin will answer as many questions as they can)
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Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews.
I'm kind of feeling Justin's glasses over there.
Justin, look at me, I'm nerdy.
You're not, bro, just because you put glasses on,
first of all, doesn't make you nerdy.
That's number one.
Make you shine.
Make you shine.
Make you shine.
Make you shine.
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Make you shine. Make you shine. Make you shine. Make, you don't really realize. Adam will look good with glasses on. I look good pretty much.
Well, I have to wear them now.
I was telling you guys, I was getting headaches all weekend.
You know why you can never compliment Adam?
Because he'll do it the way he receives it.
No, no, he does it first.
Oh, okay.
Like, I'm gonna give him a compliment
and then he says it right away.
Oh, he says it first.
About himself.
Yeah, and then you're like,
it's like, he had no, I wanna tell you something real quick.
He's like, is it about me being in a big game?
He's about, is about my big game.
I'm not gonna fucking say it anymore. Cause I like about is about a big game I'm not gonna fucking say anymore
Cuz I like to reference it a lot. I'm not gonna say anything anymore
I you know why cuz I have to try and by the way you need to stop that that whole big dick thing
That is a horrible setup. Yeah, normally if you say small dick all the time
Then they're surprised if you say big dick then and then they look at and they're like well
I thought was really I really don't worry about that considering I don't plan on going out showing my dick to anybody
So I think Katrina doesn't the mystery of it
Yeah, I don't think she's looking for me to build it up by saying it's smaller than hopefully go around and show it
To be honest here a simple Google search will show
The floating dick pics that have been around
Hey, it feels good to be back in our in the cube, that's what we've named the recording.
It's so confident in the cube of the studio of our big facility.
The area that we record in that's got the green screen and the mics and everything is
the cube.
It needed a name because it's so fucking badass because you know, and you don't really
realize it or appreciate it until we go and we shoot or we video and record other places because
Yeah, it just listening to you guys talk right now. It's it's so refreshing being able to hear. Oh, there's your voice. Oh, I missed you
I'm talking about myself
I
Like I like the cue ballot. I like I think in the foam isn't even all the way up yet
So we're receiving it the sound should get even better.
After tonight, hopefully, huh?
Is that what they're doing?
Yeah.
Supposedly it should be finished by tonight.
And then I think we're, are we done in here?
What do we got left?
Maybe some lights dug, I think dug once up,
crane change.
I'm gonna have to keep, obviously a sweater here permanently
because I don't know, how did this happen, by the way?
How did Adam get in control of the
Fucking I know like because you're a polar bear too. I love it. So I'm out number. Yeah, you couldn't be more of a vagina when it comes to things like that
Dude, I don't know why that makes me have a giant
I don't understand because you complain about it being cold all the time you when you were staying in the house
We're just out we're down by the beach this guy was like it's so cold in here
Don't turn the AC on like bro, it's like 74 in here.
It is not that cold.
It's like fucking tropical.
Well, we'll see you can handle the heat more.
No.
Yeah.
I think I can handle the heat better than you can.
Probably.
Yeah.
I run hot, dude.
I run hot for sure.
So I'm not.
My people are from the Mediterranean, dude.
I'm used to the scene I mean.
It's in my genes.
It's in my epigenetics.
I need the heat.
Yeah, but I have a thing with humidity.
I have a thing with people that don't like it.
I do not.
You can put a thing with people.
Yeah, with people like you who have a problem
with it getting too cold,
because you can put a sweater, you can put mittens on,
you can put another jacket, you put another lamp.
When it's hot, you can only take off so much
that you're done.
So there's a different tolerance, I think people should have.
Then you get a smile.
When you're in an environment where it's not like the perfect temperature for you, if you's a there's a different tolerance. I think people should have when you're in this an environment where it's not like the perfect
Temperature for you welcome to the Adam show where it's all about Adam and what he wants not all not at all
Doug and Justin that's not considered anybody
Doug and Justin are completely with the temperature you can stop trying to get everybody
Yeah, no, you complain only person didn't complain. I'm in shorts, and I love this right?
I don't care. I'm cozy right now. So fuck you
Hey, you know cozy. It is to be in a sweater. You're glad that there's no swamp forming down here
I want it hot shit. I don't want it hot and humiding
I love the nest things because I can guess what guess who hooked their phone up to the AC already so I'm gonna
We're so tech savvy gonna go ahead look at us turn it down to it. What do you how do you do?
You just get an app or something like that? I'm gonna tell you so I have full control
Because we have control over the city the atom show. You don't need it. Listen. I'll break the fucking it
I'll break it and we won't have shit in here anymore. I do like I do like the company
We're not sponsored by them. We don't get anything for repping them
But nest is pretty fucking cool. I do like how they have all those different, like you can do garage door
opener, you can do the air conditioning heating system, you can do like alarms and stuff, alarm
camera system, you can run all of it and then all runs through your app and you can control all the
light, you can do lights too in your house, you can control all from your phone. Yeah, very, very cool.
That's awesome. That's awesome.
It's awesome. And it's, I like how it's, it's sleek,
like it looks fucking cool, like the thermometer.
No, it looks like, it looks like a camera.
It does.
It does.
Which is cool because we're gonna have a hidden camera
and you're known as you know about.
Yeah.
So we'll film people.
We're gonna scare all our guests.
Probably gonna stick now.
It's just, it's just for black male reason.
But it's for black male reason.
Yeah, like they don't even know.
Yeah, dick.
I thought, I thought Richard was responsible for hiding the psychedelics, so that's what we agreed on.
No, you need to give away all the shit, and we can't do it anymore.
Yeah, we need to go.
Well, if you haven't been to Cuba, you don't know.
Yeah, so it works, man.
Richard is the skeleton in the corner.
Was a secret.
AKA Dick, he's our new mascot.
Hey, how about Brianna sending us over a possible guest that we could have on the show this
morning. She sends over this kid who's got 1.4 million people and she's like,
oh, you guys should have this guy on the show.
I know somebody who knows somebody who can get him on.
And then we looked at his page.
And he's a dumbass.
Yeah.
I was like, I don't know.
Come on, guys.
Do you listen to our show?
I don't know.
Roast him.
Is that the one that she sent the picture of him doing?
He's at the side of the Smith machine. I sent that yeah because she's on the side of the
Smith machine great revolutionary actually says for your chest and he's using one side of the Smith machine
He's like squeezing the handle or squeezing the end with his hands and kneeling kneeling and pressing it up and then the caption says like great great
Intergest activity yeah, Intergest work out or upper chess work. I don't sponsor my shreds.
I don't know.
You know what, though, this reminds me.
So did you guys watch the Joe Rogan,
the Joe Rogan Netflix trigger trigger?
Yeah, I loved it.
Awesome, right?
You know, he made a point in there that great, great.
Absolutely loved Joe Rogan.
And he goes on this little tangent
where he's talking about this girl
who has like eight million views
or eight million followers.
Just for ask.
Just for ask.
But what he makes a point that's like,
wow, that's such a good point
and that's fucking scary when you think about that
that this generation that's coming up,
those people actually have some power and authority. Yeah, like if you have eight influencing people
Yes, they're dumb ass ideas. Yes. If you have eight million people that are tuning into you regardless mind you have to people probably masturbating to it the other half of people are talking shit about
You know, I'm saying, but it doesn't matter. They're tuning into you regardless
So you have some what it's inspired by it. Some somewhat of influence
on these people. And it's a scary thought to think that a lot of these people that have
like this guy who she brought up and like 1.4 million followers. And I'm going through
his page. I'm like, he couldn't, he couldn't be more of an example of what we talk about
is the problem with.
I don't know the kid that we have. Yeah, you know, it's, but all his supplements that
he's pushing and all his awful exercise
that he's teaching.
And I was going like, wow, this is crazy.
I think she sent over the program too.
You guys, you looked at her, right?
It was a good thing to max exertion and his and her workout.
Oh my God.
Yeah.
There was a special one for women.
He had a workout for women and a workout for men.
I wanted to rip it up and her in it.
You know, but these people are influencing people.
And you look at it as-
This is a great, if you think about it,
this is a grand experiment.
I mean, throughout all of human history,
the more connected people have become
and the easier it's been to share ideas,
it's been, it's always been better.
There's always pluses of minuses,
but as a whole, it's been better.
But never to this, we've never experienced anything
to this degree.
And so it's kind of a big experiment.
Is there going to backfire?
It's kind of what, remember you and I just recently,
I don't even know if this episode got released or not yet.
It did, where you and I were kind of going back and forth
and debating like our thoughts on it.
And you're like, no, no, overall it's in proof.
So far it has been, yeah.
But I see that I go like, I don't know, man,
I don't, is it, or will it in, you know, 10 years from now?
Like, yeah, like who it in 10 years from now?
Yeah, like who's making money right now?
It's people that it's not like that they worked for things, it's like a popularity thing.
People are making a lot of money just by being popular and they're figuring out that basically
showing ass or showing this or that and saying certain things and getting certain sponsors
to sponsor them and just push their stuff for them.
That's a real formula.
Okay, so here's the problem with that way of thinking though.
I'll tell you why.
If we look at, we're in fitness, right?
So let's look at the obesity epidemic.
Would it be smart or would it be a good idea for us to create an agency that eliminates
certain foods and products because we want people's health
to be better.
So now we're going to say, no, ban all sodas because sodas are bad for people.
No, I think we're talking about that.
That's a socialist society.
You're right when you bring that up.
Well, with the video, you got the video of the girl with 8 million views and all she does
is show her ass and gives stupid advice.
But is it because she's influencing or is it more because that's just a reflection
of what people that of what people want?
Yeah, you know, it's like almost like a market demand.
And I like to think about like, you have 8 million followers, how much influence does she really have versus the person who's actually providing good and valuable information?
I've experienced this with my own Instagram page. I don't have nearly as many followers as some of these other people. And even we even advertised,
when we experimented with advertising for Mind Pump,
we had certain Instagram celebrities advertise for us
and we'd pay them and they had like,
what is it, like a million followers or three million followers?
And we got almost, we got very little in return.
Why? Because the followers don't give a shit.
They just want to look at pictures of their ass.
Well, don't you think that human nature is to follow the path of least return, why? Because the followers don't give a shit. They just want to look at pictures of their ass. Well, don't you think that human nature
is to follow the path at least resistance, right?
And so for them to be able to make money
by doing simple things like that
and just take pictures and videos and then make money,
like that's kind of obvious to some of these people
that like, wow, I can do this.
And I don't have to work towards, you know,
furthering my education, I don't have to work towards, like this is like, this is right now, like I'm gonna make a lot of can do this. And I don't have to work towards furthering my education. I don't have to work towards,
this is right now, I'm gonna make a lot of money doing this.
You know what it reminds me of?
This is what it reminds me of.
When people complain about celebrities like the Kardashians,
I hear people complain all the time.
These Kardashians all over the place,
every time I go to the grocery store there on every magazine,
who cares, why are they famous?
It's us, we're the ones doing it.
We're the ones making these fucking idiots famous.
We keep buying the magazine.
Just stop making them famous for fuck's sake.
We keep liking the photos.
Stop giving them, stop paying them with your dollars
and shit, stop voting for them.
It's like let them die off slowly.
Like nobody needs to see that shit, but that's us.
That's just look around, that's society.
Well, this is the reflection of it.
The conversation that we have a lot
Off mic and in talking about our business model and the things that we're doing because
There's a part of a part of you that wants to play the game a little bit just because it's in it's almost important
It's almost like you have to in order in order to get that you're trying to funnel. How do you funnel?
You have to get on the level.
Right.
I mean, to me, it's one of the reasons why
Sal's Instagram page is only at 10,000 followers
or 12,000 or wherever he's at right now is.
What's point four?
That's the amount of, you know,
he provides incredible content on there, but no ass shots.
No ass shots.
It's not, it's not shot with a professional camera
and then gone back and photoshopped up
and it's not like of his fucking cool ass car
but it's full of great,
and it's not going viral like crazy
and it should be because of all the great information
that's on there.
So it's kind of challenging when you've been doing that for God.
It's been almost, it's been like, what, a year and a half now?
How long have you been running that for?
Yeah, but I will say this.
I will say this.
When you do things, the cool, and then look, we're not here to tell anybody, like,
you need to do it this way, you need to do it that way.
Do it however you want, but I think when people do present valuable information,
things that people can actually take away and apply,
information that's thought out and smart and accurate.
They may not grow as fast, they might not reach as many people,
but the people they reach your way more power.
And you're influencing people in the right way,
and you're also developing staying power, you know what I'm saying?
Because I can think of several flash in the pan companies in the fitness industry that exploded because of that whole, you know, sex sells thing.
But now where are they? You know, they're nowhere to be found. Do you guys remember cyber
genics? Do you guys remember that supplement? Cyber genics? They used to have these before
and after in muscle magazines and the before and afters were like, they were unbelievable,
right? They were crazy to believe. Of course, we learned later on that,
they would take a bodybuilder who was about to compete,
and then they'd make them get fat,
and then that would be the before,
and then they flipped the pictures, right?
That's the before and that's the after.
It would look like they got them just shredded shape.
And it was this pack of supplements,
and they'd sell you like, it was expensive.
It was like $150 or whatever,
it was back in the mid 90s,
and they'd sell you like 12 different supplements.
And of course, part of you believed it worked
because, holy shit, if I'm taking
all these different supplements, it has to work.
And they made a lot of money for a little period of time,
but it's flash in the pan.
Eventually people are like, this shit doesn't work.
And I'm just getting diarrhea
and that guy doesn't look anything.
That's a fake before and after.
So, I don't know.
We'll see how long these people last.
The other thing you wanna keep in mind too
with social media, Instagram and YouTube and all of that stuff is a lot of these people
got really big because they got in there early. You know what I'm saying? Like, think about YouTube.
YouTube really hasn't been big for that long. Like five years ago, it wasn't huge at all.
And if you were a fitness person who had a little bit of charisma and you were one of the first
people to present on there.
Today you probably have 10 million subscribers.
Well, that's why, I mean, we've talked about this before
on this show that, you know, timing is every,
timing is number one, you know, like you can have
the best content in the world, you can be the sexiest ever,
you can have all this other stuff going for you business-wise,
but it's really about timing.
If you time your business at an opportune time,
like somebody who would be just starting,
if you started a YouTube channel five to 10 years ago,
and you had, if you...
I mean, I remember it was the very first video.
I remember somebody talking about that,
they were having this sort of anniversary of it,
and it was like, it's not even that big of a deal.
I forget what it was.
I would really like to know,
but it was millions and millions of
Views just because over time it accumulated that well. I think if you get into a
Like a neat a segment of the market right before that particular segment blows up. Yeah, then you're just
Through osmosis. You're just gonna blow up yourself. We talked about this a little bit with that Mike Chang guy
and he just rose to this meteoric level.
Just because of, he was the first one to do this whole six pack thing
and take a shirt off and be into fitness.
And he already sold it off and's trying another channel.
And he pretty much like here and then gone.
Exactly. The first YouTube video, guy named Judd, me at the zoo, 34 million views.
Just because it was the first one.
Yeah.
And you're some kid at this, dude.
It's all competition.
It's all 4 million.
Yeah, that's all competition.
There's no competition, you know.
The first video on YouTube.
Wow.
Well, there you go.
That's crazy.
It is crazy.
Well, you know, let's be on we talked about this he was like even podcasting
I mean podcasting has been around for what nine years or so
Actually, I think maybe even longer. I think the original podcast was all computer right they would you'd record on
On your computer and then I think Ben Greenfield was there. Yeah, he's been on air for nine years
Yeah, that's why I thought it was nine. I thought he was one of the first. Yeah.
He was early on.
No podcasting's an old medium.
It just hasn't gotten, it didn't get popular
until not that long ago.
Well, you know when it got popular,
it started blowing up.
I phone started to put it as one of the smartphones.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's still not, it's still relatively unknown.
Like I can't tell you how many times I tell people,
you know, when they ask me what I do,
and they say, oh, I have a podcast.
I'm like, well, what's a podcast?
I think once cars start to encode, I have a podcast, I'm like, well, what's a podcast?
I think once cars start to encode,
because that's starting to happen, cars will have it,
instead of just going to your radio,
you'll be able to boom, boom, push a button,
or podcast, or boom.
You can totally boom.
You can pune it.
I think that's when you'll start to hear,
you'll see more people start to listen,
because podcasts are really popular on the way to work.
We see that, people will listen to it on the way to work.
It's probably the most, right?
So we get most of downloads, yeah.
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Recently, Adam said 3,500 calories equals 1 pound of fat is arbitrary. Can you guys expand on that?
Yes, if you look at from a, you know, just from pure energy, from a purely, you know, physics point of view. Every pound of fat contains
3,500 calories worth of energy. So if you look at it like that, very black and white, very
clear, then it would, all you would need to do is burn 3,500 more calories than you're
taking in to lose that one pound.
If math was very easy like that to do with the body.
If the body's systems of, you know,
the biochemical systems of the body
were that easy to read and see.
And, you know, we need to be clear for the most part.
It's kind of like that.
I mean, that's for the most part.
But that's kind of a, when we say arbitrary
because we throw it out there, it's not really exact.
And, you know, I'll give you guys a great example.
That's what we mean by arbor triad.
Yeah, I'll give you a great example.
If you, and this has been done many, many times,
if you take someone who's eating 2,500 calories
and let's say they're eating, I don't know,
50 grams of fat or 80 grams of fat in their diet,
and you take some of those grams of fat
and replace it with medium chain triglycerides.
So the grams of fat are the same.
They'll lose weight.
The study's been replicated over and over again because medium chain triglycerides tend
to be burned rather than stored, even though it's still calories, it's still grams of fat,
they tend to be burned.
This is why things like if it fits your macros and just calories, although that's the bulk
of what you should be looking at, it's not everything, it's not the answer to everything.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, but that being said, it is a tool and it's close enough of a number to use like this.
So this is how I would use it is, okay, let's say I'm getting ready for a show or maybe
you have a client who has a wedding coming up
But we know there's a date right we've got three months. We have three months till they're gonna be there and
I know that
3500 calories roughly equals a pound of fat and this person needs to lose or get ready for the show
They have a total of you know 40 pounds of fat on their body and we we want to get rid of about 20 pounds of that
Okay, so that's the goal is to lose 20 pounds.
I know a healthy range for them to lose body fat is somewhere between one to two pounds
a week tops.
And that's also an arbitrary number because there's all exceptions to the rules and everybody's
metabolism and we have different scenarios.
But it helps me give an idea of that's a really good pace,
a good healthy pace I should be aiming for.
And it's a good start for me to know like, oh, we're going too hard and too fast, or we
could probably pick up the intensity, or we could probably push a little bit further
based off of a number like that.
And what I mean by that is, okay, our ultimate goal is 20 pounds.
Well, in 20 pounds, that should definitely technically take me about 15 to 30 weeks, somewhere in
that range.
So, if someone is trying to do that in six weeks, that's not a healthy ideal.
And I would tell them straight up that, hey, sure, we could lose that much weight in that
time, but we're also going to probably do some metabolic damage to you, and it wouldn't
be ideal.
Well, isn't it also arbitrage
just because of the water retention
and the water element to the weight of it?
Yeah, and that's why it's not just,
you're not just talking about fat
when you're talking about 3,500 calories.
No, and you also, you need to consider,
the human body is an extremely complex biochemical system
and it regulates energy balance.
And it's not perfect in the sense that every calories
accounted for exactly the same way.
I'll give you an example.
If you take somebody who's eating
X amount of calories and they're not getting any weight,
and I start injecting them with insulin
or start spiking their insulin,
they're going to be more likely to store body fat
or even gain weight.
You can change someone's hormones, not changes their food intake, and you'll notice
that they're leaner with more muscle versus if the hormones are a different way.
There's a lot of things that happen in the body, so this whole concept of a calorie is
a calorie from a pure, like I said, physics standpoint.
I forgot how many units of energy, because you get to understand, calories are just measurements of energy.
I believe, and I'm looking it up right now,
let me see here.
Okay, so one calorie contains 4,184 joules of energy.
So when you look at it from a pure energy standpoint,
yes, a calorie is a calorie,
but when that calorie enters the body
and how the body interacts with that calorie,
all the chemicals that are making up that calorie,
what kind of food it is, and the hormonal state that you're in. And even your mental state,
in your emotional state, many of these things influence how those calories are utilized. Your body
could take calories and decide that it wants to heat your body up a little bit. And burden calories
just by maintaining your body temperature.
Or it could decide it wants to store calories and let you cool down and store those calories
as body fat.
It could decide to turn those calories into muscle.
Or it could generate, require more energy to burn those calories.
Calories have thermic effects.
Protein, for example, is a very-thermic effect versus carbohydrates and fats. So eating a calorie from protein will burn more energy than a calorie from something else,
for example.
That's why it's important, because that's a common statement that people will associate
that amount with a pound of fat.
So if they lose a pound on the scale, they're like, oh, I lost a pound of fat.
Yeah.
And it does, it's not, that's not what's happening. No, and I don't think any of us use that way.
I think the important thing in it, because I think we could talk all day long about all
the ways that's, that's not right, right?
Because it couldn't, or couldn't be precise, because there's so many other factors that
come into play here.
But where, and it's a very common thing that's said, especially amongst the training
community, we were taught this. Yeah, exactly. What we learned initially, well, yeah, what we would, very common thing that's said, especially amongst the training community.
We were taught this, that's what we learned initially.
Well, yeah, we used to tell people this.
Yeah, and there's a place for it,
and that's why I wanted to make clear.
So I don't want to just totally bash it and throw it out
like, oh, it's stupid, that makes no sense.
There's a little bit of science behind this,
and there is a way you take that information
and it can help you towards your goals.
And to me, that's how I would use it,
which is knowing what's a healthy range.
Like, we shouldn't be losing more than about a half a percent
to a percent of body fat per week.
Any more than that, and you're kind of,
and once again, these are numbers that are rough,
so if there's somebody's listening,
you're like, oh, that's not true.
I read it was 0.65 per pound of lean, you know, let's take no, just it roughly about a half
a percent to a percent of week is a very healthy pace that you can be reducing body fat.
And so based off of that, I can look at, okay, one 3500 calories equals a pound of fat.
Now I would divide that by, okay, how many days or until our goal, what that should look
like. Okay, how are many days or until our goal? What that should look like so and that gives me this range of oh wow
We're pushing too hard too fast. Let's let's feed her a little bit or let's feed him a little bit more or
We're not we're not dropping any weight right now whatsoever
I may I may want to adjust to that so there's a lot of things that come into play
I you have to you're absolutely right because if we, this is also assuming that we know exactly
how many calories we're burning and we know exactly how many calories we're eating. Even if you buy
your food and it's packaged and you weigh it and you measure the calories based off of, you know,
your internet, you know, reference or your fat secret app or whatever, it still isn't 100% accurate.
You don't have the tools necessary to measure.
Well, there's better metrics as far as like
consuming and food is concerned
because there's a lot more information out there
and you can weigh it and it's tangible
versus the burned calorie element.
And I feel like we haven't got to that point yet
to even kind of like measure apples to apples with that.
No, and these things like the human body
doesn't exist in a vacuum.
I'm not in this vacuum where every single thing
is measured to 100% accuracy.
You know, I'm moving around every day,
things are happening throughout the day.
My food's not gonna be exactly the same.
I'm gonna feel different,
my hormones may be different,
you know, that day then it was maybe the previous week or whatever.
All these things you need to take into account.
And really, the only way is it's relatively subjective.
There's definitely some objective things that you're gonna measure,
like your weight and your performance and not in that test.
But there's a lot of subjective stuff too,
like how you feel and how you look,
all the different signals that your body's telling you. And so, you know, you have you feel and how you look, all the different signals
at your body's telling you.
So, you have to look at the entire picture, look at the whole picture.
That's why when people say, and I see people do this, 3,500 per calories equals one pound,
and if you lose a pound, that means you burn 3,500 calories more than you were taking in.
If you gain a pound, that means you were taking in a thousand, you know, it's not nearly that accurate.
And it's not that clear cut.
No, and I use it more like this.
I'll give you an example.
I just actually use this the other day.
So I'll have a client that I'm coaching on like they're in there.
She's leaning out, right?
So we've been in a deficit.
And I've had her in a deficit for a while now.
It's just nice and nice and slow.
We've been dropping away, leaning out,
and we've been doing that for,
I think we're about four weeks or so.
And she's already getting to the point
where she's a pre-learn person.
So now I want to start to, you know,
refeed her a little bit more.
So put her in a surplus.
Even though her goal is still to lean out more,
I'm going to give her a surplus a little bit.
Now, when you do that to somebody
who is trying to lean out and lose weight
and you then turn around and tell them you want them to increase calories, you can
freak them out. Because like Justin said earlier, if I start to consume more carbohydrates
or more food in general and my body takes in some extra water, water pairs with that, now
the next thing you know, the scale goes up like one pound and that can freak them out.
So how I explain to them, like I say, listen,
3500 calories is about what equals a pound of fat.
I just increased your clork intake by 300 calories
for two days.
We didn't, even though the scale went up one pound,
don't worry, we didn't put a pound of fat on it,
promise you, we only were in a surplus of 600 calories
and that couldn't happen.
Not to mention, we're lifting weights. So a lot of
that I'm hoping is getting allocated to helping you build lean muscles. So lean tissue. So that is
how I use it like something like that to explain to a client so they understand that hey you couldn't
possibly have done that off of what we just consumed. You're used to living in a deficit. I
surplus you by three or 400 calories. Two days ago have gone by. Scale's gone up one pound, but it wasn't one pound of fat.
I promise you. So, you know, in giving them that visual and understanding of, you know, exactly
what equates to about a pound of fat helps them understand why maybe the scale is going up or
down and not to stress about it and to think that all of a sudden they're putting all this fat on
and that what we're really doing is hopefully building either one lean tissue or two and
general just helping spike those leptin levels and get them a towel and fired back up.
Perfect. Next question, Dover Russell.
Yeah, our next question is from Alena Janel. What is the best diet training method for each
body type?
Oh, that's a great question. We're referring to like some auto types and how they should eat. Yeah. That's a great question.
Referring to like semano types and how they should eat.
Yeah, that's a totally false.
So that's the problem with semano types.
Is that they're not really accurate?
Well, let's be honest, that's how semano, why they're starting to debate semano types,
that it's even real.
It's more of those types of people
are more likely to eat this way, right?
The studies are starting to show like the people that
was thought they were ectomorphs are also people
that who just happen to skip breakfast
or not eat till noon or one,
or they have ticks and they move a lot.
And so these things have attributed to them being
an ectomorph type, body type, but in reality,
it's just more of their habits and when it comes to consuming food and movement.
Is it true?
Did that come out of eugenics, like the semana types?
That's a good question.
Where was it originally from?
Yeah, I feel like it originated from eugenics.
A lot of people have debated them from the very beginning, but I know that
this is a good question because there is some reference to that in the Nutrition Survival
Guide. Just for an association factor of like, okay, if my body type is this and I respond
good to carbs, here's how I want to balance things out with my macronutrients. And that's really all it is
is being able to figure out
what type of balance will work best with you
and your activities.
But as far as the actual amount of types,
I feel like it's so individual.
I couldn't really put a generalization behind it.
It's very individual.
I mean, the question is, it's a bad question.
I'll tell you why. And I'm not talking crap about the person who's asking the question is it's a bad question. I'll tell you why and I'm not talking
I'm not talking crap about the person who's asking the question. This is a very common question
But it should be it's it's you can't really answer really the question should be what's the best diet and training method
For my body for my goals for my experience
I need way more information to be able to come up with the best for you, right?
If I'm just looking at someone by the way, if I'm not doing any other tests than just
looking at them, I can make some pretty general guesses.
And some of them might be accurate and some of them might be off, but a lot of them will
be based on, okay, I'm just watching you stand there.
I'm going to look at your posture.
I'm going to look at what muscles look to me, maybe week,
what may look tight.
Without further testing, it's a guess at this point,
but it's an educated one.
If you're a little heavy, then I'm gonna guess
that you probably consume more than you burn,
but we don't know what those numbers look like
because maybe your metabolism has been hammered
and it's slow, so you're not really even consuming that much.
Or maybe you do consume a shit ton of food and over what you're burning.
That has to be...
Well, let's do this since I feel like this is very common.
Let's speak to it like this because I feel like the people that talk like this or ask
this type of question in my experience are the girl who comes to you and she has in the past lifted weights and gets bulky or lifts weights and
puts and claims that she puts muscle on and gets really easy and she's concerned of getting
big and that's the reason why she is stayed away from lifting heavy weights or doing big
compound movements because in her eyes her body builds muscle really easy.
She has a hard time burning fat.
So let's talk to that because I think that's a big one.
You know, it's funny.
I've been working in gyms now for 20 years.
That's a long time.
Okay.
And professionally in gyms for about 20 years, I can count on two hands,
the amount of girls that I've actually met who actually built muscle very quickly.
Literally, it's gotta be less than 10.
And the most of them were personal trainers
that I knew that worked for me.
I rarely, I rarely rarely rarely.
You know me times I have clients, female clients
that would say that to me like, oh, I don't like,
if I lift weights, if I do barbell squats,
I just can't too big.
It's like no, you don't build muscle that fast.
I know you don't, but let's go ahead
and test it out and see what happens.
That's something you wanna keep in mind too.
If you're one of those individuals that's blessed,
and yes, it's a blessing, I promise you.
If you're blessed with the type of genetics
that allows you to build very quick muscle as a female,
my advice to you is still gonna be the same.
Go ahead and build muscle as quickly as possible,
because you can always stop, you can always stop and reverse or change a routine.
I promise you're not gonna wake up tomorrow
with all kinds of muscles.
There's no one on earth who builds muscle that fast.
You know, where you do an exercise,
wake up the next day and you're like,
oh, fuck, Sal, I told you.
I shouldn't have done that.
Now I've got 32 inch quads, you know,
it doesn't happen that way.
So unless you're in Kuwait,
I saw us.
You know, I think we get this question a lot.
I think as people are advertised heavily based on this question.
And you'll see this, like, if your body is this shape,
here's your workout.
And if your body is this shape,
then this is the kind of workout you need to do.
And it's very super duper general.
There is some science to how you may store body fat
and how what that means in terms of your hormones.
But it's so individual in the sense that, you know, if my hormones change and I start
to restore more body fat in my midsection, I can only compare it to how I used to store
body fat.
That makes sense.
I can't necessarily compare it to other people because there's also genetics that plays
a huge role into this.
So really, if you're looking for the best diet and training, it's got to be entirely based
upon your body
and that what you would think your body type is.
You know what I'm saying?
It's gotta be your body.
So if I have a protracted shoulder girdle
and I am a lap dominant,
then I know that my routine should involve careful rows
and should probably initially not involve
lots of pull down movements.
You know, I'm not going to include lots of pull down movements because that's going to
only make my lat dominance worse and it's going to make my shoulders come forward more.
And that's just a simple example.
Or if I'm looking for a diet and I know that, well, you know, here's an easy one.
I'm a vegan.
Okay, right away, we know that the best diet for you is not paleo because you're not going
to eat meat anyway, right away we know that the best diet for you is not paleo because you're not gonna eat meat anyway, right?
So it's it's got to be based on your individual body your experiences
Anytime somebody asked me a question like this on Instagram and if I have the time to answer them
The way I usually answer this question is with a shit ton of questions myself of course
I never answer it. It's always like well tell me this tell me this tell me this time of that first
Yeah, let's I can tell you I can't get us, I can tell you, I can tell you, it doesn't get us anywhere.
I can tell you what the worst program is.
The worst program will be one, someone is telling you that this is what you should take
based off your body type.
If someone gives you a workout program and that's what they say, that you should do this because
this is your body type, to me right away, that's bullshit.
So that's, that's, and if it doesn't include, if you don't have squatting, you don't have
deadlifting, you don't have overhead press, if you don't have squatting, you don't have deadlifting,
you don't have overhead press, if you're not doing those staple movements, it's terrible.
It's not ideal for you.
Everybody should be doing that.
If you can't do that, you should be working towards that.
No moves are going to shape your body or help you towards your fat loss goal or muscle building
goal faster than doing these type of movements.
So anybody who gives you a program that says, this is for girls that want to lean out and
build their butt and look like this and this body type, this is the ideal program.
That's a crock of shit.
So that to me, any program that actually starts and tells you that this is the best program
for you is already a crock of shit.
So it doesn't work that way.
It's really tempting advertising, isn't it?
Cause I could literally make, right now,
I could make an Instagram post.
It's easier, because I could make an Instagram post right now,
I could go online and I could search for female bodies,
and I could find three distinctly different
looking female bodies, and then I could make a meme,
and I could post that meme.
And I could say, each of these body types
should train differently, contact me for more details.
And I promise you, I'll get a shfucking shit flood of people.
We're gonna be like, oh, I look like me.
I'm that one.
I'm that one.
What would my work have been?
You should do that anyways
and recommend them all the same thing.
Yeah, exactly.
It just kind of what he said.
It's, you know, on April, on April full day,
we should all come up with a bullshit post
that we know will go viral.
And then every single answer will be like,
it was bullshit.
Hashtag pumps.
Exactly.
Let's do it.
Next one.
Hending BCKHS.
How do you reverse adrenal fatigue?
Is there a difference between mental and physical stress?
Oh, yes.
That's two questions. Yes, and yes.
So adrenal fatigue, it represents a whole host of symptoms that people will feel, who will
fall into this category.
And it's everything from chronic fatigue, just a high state of stress in the body, easy
weight gain, appetite changes, mood changes.
It's not really recognized by the medical community yet,
but enough, you know, you got naturopaths now
that talk about adrenal fatigue quite a bit.
And I do believe this will be something
that's, will be a medical term that will be addressed.
And I don't know if they'll name it something else.
But I know what this is when I see it.
You know, leaky gut syndrome can contribute to this
or maybe is the same thing.
And it really comes from overtaxing,
overstressing your body and underfeeding
or poorly feeding your body.
This is a state that once you're in,
it takes a while to kind of come out.
And how do you come out of it? Well, we have to, first of all, send the signal to your body that it's not in a high state of stress.
So metabolic damage, this is like metabolic damage. There you go. So if you're listening right now, you know, you know a metabolic damage is very, very similar. This would be somebody who's
Beat themselves up in the gym probably lots of cardio lots of high intensity exercise and
continuously underfed their body over a period of weeks, months and sometimes years
This is a category where you'll find lots of bikini competitors, physique competitors and bodybuilders will reach
of bikini competitors, physique competitors, and bodybuilders will reach right after their competition, where they're just super fatigued and they can, you know, anything over low
calories makes them gain weight. The way you reverse is the way you reverse people at a
metabolic damage. You reduce your activity level. You make the focus of your adaptation
on building muscle. That's the best signal you can send in terms of speeding
up the metabolism.
And telling the body that it's okay to burn more calories and to be healthier, good, strong
muscle tissue contributes to good hormone profiles, or at least it requires good hormone profiles
for hormones start to change as a result of that signal.
So very traditional strength training,
not going to failure on your lips,
you're still training relatively intensely,
but not going to failure, full body workouts,
straight sets, you're focusing on strength,
you're not doing a shit ton of cardio,
and if you are doing cardio,
it's more of the neat type of stuff
where you're just increasing your general activity,
like I'm going for walks outside.
Meditation helps a lot with this.
Avoiding food intolerances helps a lot with this.
You were gonna say something just like that.
I was just gonna say,
adrenal fatigue, so this is really speaking more
towards chronic issue, right?
As far as being overly fatigued constantly,
doing just daily life and workouts
and your lifestyle.
Because I've also heard of fighters or people in like really high adrenaline based
sports that don't really prepare themselves for this rush of adrenaline and then they get fatigued
like almost immediately because they can't deal with it, say like second round comes in
and all of a sudden now their body's completely gasped
just because of the, you know,
they had too much of this rush of adrenaline.
Yeah, I've actually seen certain doctors
will categorize adrenal fatigue,
and they'll say, okay, you're in stage one
of adrenal fatigue, and you're stage two,
and they do this through hormone testing, I think.
And if you look at their definition of adrenal fatigue,
they'll say something like it's a decrease
in the adrenal glands ability to carry out
their functions, which are to deal with,
it's like the stress control system of the body.
But a lot of those symptoms, like I said,
you're looking at, initially it starts off
with a fight or flight response,
and then it moves into resistance response,
where you're still operating on a daily basis, but it's kind of more difficult it starts off with a fight or flight response and then it moves into resistance response where
you're still operating on a daily basis but it's kind of more difficult. When you get into
stage three, they'll say things like lots of fatigue, brain fog, insomnia, maybe depression,
hormones will be off. So a woman will get tested and she'll become estrogen dominant or
there's other types of hormone disturbances.
Do you sugar intolerances, that kind of stuff?
Do you think they're going to combine that
with metabolic damage, or do you think
they will separate the two?
It's almost the same.
There's so much that overlaps with this,
and it's not an exact science at the moment,
it's being identified quite a bit.
Well, that's why it's hard to talk about this.
I also wanna be careful, because quite a bit. Well, that's why it's hard to talk about this. I also want to be careful,
because we have a large platform now that,
whenever we talk about stuff like this,
I feel like everyone, oh, that must be me, I have that.
How rare it really is.
I feel like that was, I don't know what year it was
when we found out people had ADD or ADHD.
And now like anybody who has hard time focusing
is taking fucking lateral.
You know, I don't want to promote something like that
where everybody who's fucking fat and can't put down
a cheeseburger thinks they have fucking adrenal fatigue
or has metabolic damage.
So, and that takes a lot to check yourself on that
because that's the first thing.
Now that we talk about it more,
and I think more people are finding about it.
And I've done seminars and little things
where I'm speaking and giving little tips
about health and fitness, and I'll mention this,
and then I get always get a freaking handful of people
afterwards that want to talk to me,
and they're like, I have that, I have to have that.
Like, what do you mean?
Well, what are your symptoms?
And they're like, well, I've just been working out so hard
and I've been doing it for a long time
and I'm not seeing any weight loss or this of that.
I'm like, okay, well, how many calories
you take in the snack?
Well, I'm not sure, but I eat really good.
You know, I'm like, well, fuck.
You know, I'm healthy.
Yeah, I'm like, well, the people's perception
of what healthy or their colore can take
and their balance and everything else that's going on is
can be really off. So it's not as common as we think it is. It's more common than we realize.
Yeah, I was just going to say it's definitely more common than we realize. Yeah, it's more common than we realize and it's out there
and we have all as trainers in here have definitely had I have 100%
I mean, I can tell you of someone I'm helping right now, that is, you know, and I have this person track,
so like she's 200 pounds, she eats 1200 calories,
day in, day out, and can't lose any weight.
Like, and she's taking 10 to 15,000 steps a day.
So she is burning enough that,
and eating a little enough that her body
should be a lot smaller, a lot leaner.
That, and that to me is obvious because of that.
Now people who think they're eating less calories or think they're doing this, but then they're
activity levels like the average American, which is under 4,000 steps.
Then they still on Saturday and Sunday decide to drink and eat a certain way, you know what
I'm saying, or their food profile and their macronutrients that they're chewed, they're
where they're getting their most most nutrients is very poor choices.
And they're doing a lot of other things that is causing their body not to respond and
not show them weight loss like they want.
And they don't have, you know, metabolic damage.
So, you know, there's a lot of things to address and look at first to get squared away before
you just think that you have something
as serious as this, but it's very common, not very, it's more common than what we thought
it was probably.
Yeah, I see this much more just in my experience because I used to have someone in my gym
that was kind of an expert on this, and so she would get lots of clients who did this.
And as I started working with her and learning, I was able to identify a lot of these symptoms and other clients.
And it seems to be more common in women than in men.
You seem to see this and the kind of the profile that I tend to see who falls in this category
is the woman who works, who also has small children, who isn't getting much sleep and is
putting herself last on her priority list.
And then tries to work out on top of it because she thinks she has to work out.
So she works out real hard as, you know, because it's like, I gotta get this in and I gotta hammer myself.
That, I see that much more common among them.
And you can just see it like they're just, they're just beat man, they're just tired.
And the hormones do feel off and their sex drive is low.
And, you know, it's all these other symptoms
and really, rather than you get to think about this way,
instead of tackling adrenal fatigue,
think of it as taking a step back.
That's how you would handle something like this.
You get to take some steps back,
not tackle it head, you know, forward,
like you're trying to break through it
because if you try to fight a adrenal fatigue aggressively, you're
going to lose the battle.
It's really more about taking a step back.
It's really more about, okay, let's get more sleep.
Let's be more mindful.
Have you tried meditation?
Have you tried yoga?
Okay, we're going to do just straight, boring ass resistance training.
You're not doing circuits.
You're not doing crazy stuff.
We're going to focus on getting stronger.
You know, with your nutrition, let's reduce
your intake of starches and definitely sugars. Let's see, let's reduce your intake of
stimulants. Here's another one. People in adrenal fatigue live on a shit ton of caffeine.
Great one. Great one. And this is where I would recommend you don't drink coffee. Coffee
is extremely healthy for most people, but if you're in adrenal fatigue, the last thing you want is to be taking in something
from the outside that's a stimulant,
that's only going to fatigue the adrenal glands even more
or cause your body to try to just score out more
of these energy-producing catacoleamines.
You want this person to relax.
This kind of this person, I will have him drink
chamomile tea at night and I'll wean them off coffee
I'll have him go to green tea first and eventually have him off caffeine altogether and I hate to say this to you
But if you're in this category of people who's got a adrenal fatigue
It's a tough road because it sucks way worse before it starts to get better
Yeah, well, you gotta be patient and we've talked about this before and I'm assuming it's been a while since that's why this question came up
Because we have addressed this and I think we did a whole
episode and we do a whole episode on metabolic damage.
Metabolic damage, yeah.
Yeah, so that's a great episode to go and even further detail, but you know your priority shift, so even if your goal is to
build muscle or lose body fat, which is more common that these are the people that are trying to lose weight.
Your goal is no longer to lose weight, your goal is to be healthy.
And part of being healthy is getting the right balance of foods, getting rest, you know, taking care of the body. And also the mental part, because you asked about the
difference of mental and physical. Yeah, what's the difference between mental and physical
strength? And there is a major, there is a major difference. And you can be great in one
and a horrible in the other. You could be great about the physical stress
and great you do yoga and you don't train to failure
and you really take care of your body physically,
but mentally you're in a job where you're a CEO
or an entrepreneur and your mind is going constantly
and you're having a hard time making bills
and firing employees and yelling at people
or getting yelled at and you know,
you've got this really high stress level job.
Like that can fuck with you.
I'll tell you something now.
You comparing mental and physical stress,
it's really easy, okay.
Physical stress is literally while you're doing something,
your body's physically stressed.
The second you stop doing it, that physical stress is gone.
Mental stress doesn't work that way.
Mental stress is way more difficult to mess with.
If you had to place all your focus on stress,
you will get way more benefit by focusing on the mental aspect
than you will the physical aspect.
Because once you can tackle the mental aspect of stress,
the physical stress is easy to handle
because it's easy to identify.
You can start to read the signals
and it makes a lot of sense
that you know when to stop your workout,
when not, when to work out too hard or when not.
A lot of times when people overwork on the gym
and just beat the shit out of themselves,
it's not because they're not reading their physical stress
well, it's because their mental stress is all over the place.
In fact, they're beating themselves up
because there's some emotional component to the exercise.
They're not even reading the real signals
of the physical exertion.
It's all this emotional and mental exertion
that they're doing.
So, you can see this with athletes
or with anybody else, like the physical aspect of it, man,
is actually not that fucking hard.
The mental aspect stays with you, man.
That's what keeps you up at night.
That's why you go try and relax.
Someone tells you, hey,
it takes a lot more discipline.
It's a counter.
And more work, it takes a lot more work and it's way more difficult.
Mental stress will destroy you faster
and will linger much longer than physical stress.
I mean, I could take Justin right now
and I could beat the shit out of his body for 60 seconds.
And there's only so much damage I'm gonna do.
And I could really, I mean, 60 seconds,
we could really exert the hell out of them
He could get a phone call right now and receive some terrible news that will last a grand total of five seconds
Yeah, and the mental anguish and stress will wreak wreak havoc on a on his body that surpasses far surpasses the 60 seconds
Oh, it'll manifest. Yeah, it's crazy how that that kind of stress mentally will just manifest throughout your body
and you'll just start to deteriorate
in front of everybody.
Absolutely.
And of course, they both contribute
and bleed into each other.
Yeah.
My, you know, the mental component
that you have, it's really.
It can, you know, my physical activity
can help alleviate mental stress
because a lot of times being physical forces you
to be in the moment.
So you kind of forget,
you know, what's going on.
This is why when I work out, if I work out on my own,
the reason why I enjoy working on my own sometimes
is I put my headphones on, I'm in the moment
and I'm just working out and for that 60 minutes
or whatever a long time it takes me to do my workout,
I'm not thinking about anything
except for what I'm doing at that moment.
And so that takes care of the mental component.
But I'll tell you this much right now, if you only had enough time to focus on one or the
other, focus on mental stress and really nourish that and take care of that because the physical
aspect of it, that's cake.
It's much more black and white.
MJ FitFam is asking, can I get an internship?
I think that's the one that word is. We'll put you to work. MJ FitFam is asking, can I get an internship?
I think that's the one that word is.
We'll put you to work.
Yeah, no problem.
Yeah, what do we look at plenty?
What are our standards for?
Well, you know what, actually, this is cool
because there's a couple of things
that we're looking for right now
and the hard, and we've had a ton of people email us.
So I appreciate those that have been
reaching out and emailing at the info at mymputmedia.com and asking questions about this. We've gotten quite a bit of it.
Here's the thing. I think if we were to do an internship, first of all, they would need to be local.
We would like them to come in to the facility and we'd like to work with them personally.
We would like them to come in to the facility and we'd like to work with them personally.
Are we any help overseas or people in another state
or whatever, the best way you can support
is continuing to share mind pump and to get out there
and go through the programming and do things like that.
I mean, that always helps us.
But an intern in here is somebody that we hope
to help develop them, their business,
and we would need them
in-house. And then there'd be some skill sets that I would like them to have, at least for me,
as far as an internship. Probably the biggest need that we have right now is more on the production
side, with Doug, Doug has to handle so much right now in somebody with photography, editing, Photoshop skills,
graphic design, graphic design.
Yeah.
I would type of stuff.
I really want, I would love and intern that we can,
that can really grow with Mind Pump.
You know, we, the three of us really pride ourselves
in our careers and fitness, training and developing people
and taking them to new levels.
And mine pump is on an upward trajectory of growth.
And whoever that intern is that comes in
and they do a good job, you know,
you're gonna be a part of it.
You're gonna be, we're gonna make sure you get taken care of.
We're gonna make sure you learn things
and grow along with it.
Cause I want nothing more than to see people around me
become successful.
And that's really what I'm looking for.
I want someone who's hungry.
You know what I'm saying?
Hungry to learn and be a part of something big.
I knew how I was when I started working in fitness
and I was just, you couldn't get me out of the gym, you know what I mean?
I was in there all the time, right?
Unfortunately, people like that are hard to find.
It's very hard to find because everybody has, you know,
a certain way that they have to like make a living, you know,
they need to like support themselves, you know, themselves and pay the bills and all this stuff.
For people to come in and just sort of put all that aside, be like, hey, I just want
to do whatever I can to show you guys that I can prove my worth and all this and just
be super hungry and passionate about learning from us and just the experiences that we've already
had and that we can really help develop the process for you. That's the kind of person
like I'm looking for. It doesn't mean that we're not looking to then reimburs and pay and then
make this fill a position in a sense. I'll tell you what, this is something that gets me upset
a little bit and I'll tell you why.
You know, people don't, they don't, they don't go to a school.
It's not like they go to school and they say, hey, professors, why aren't you fucking paying
me to be here?
Yeah.
I'm here on my time to, it's like, look, you're fucking learning.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
When I was a kid and I would help, you know, I used to help my dad with his jobs and
he'd send me off to help other people.
Like, I couldn't imagine getting paid because I was learning.
I'm here to learn, like thank you for,
you know, so I want to-
Why don't we call it a mentorship, not an internship?
Well, that's what internships are supposed to fucking be,
you know what I mean?
And that's, so if you're the kind of person
that's looking for an internship
because you want to get paid while you're doing an internship,
well, I'm sorry, there's not the right place for you.
I want someone hungry who's willing to learn
that wants to be guided and mentored and molded
and helped so that they can become,
you know, apply what they learn and become successful.
And also, you know, you have great connections
with, you know, with MindPump, but,
no, it's not, an internship is your learning, your student.
We don't expect someone to come on board
who knows everything, because that would be someone
we'd hire.
We'd want someone to come in that knows some stuff
that's willing to learn and really wants to work hard
to grow along, like I said, along with my own pop.
Yeah, we're really picky, though.
Of course.
I think it's a little important to note that because
I think you say that in the hour,
I was like, you're gonna get all these people
that are just ambitious to work for free
or whatever like that, they're gonna start emailing.
They have like no skills.
Yeah, exactly.
That app will it work?
No, we're gonna pick the best one. But I have like no skills. Yeah, exactly. That up will it work. Well, no, we're gonna do this.
Here's the thing.
We're gonna pick the best one.
We've had, you know what I'm saying?
Yeah, you're not gonna pick the, you know.
Yeah, we've had a lot of people already try this.
And I've actually, you know, there's quite a few trainers
that I talk to and I would love to help out, man.
And they're close to me and they're trying to build a business
whether it be a clothing line or their own fitness business.
And I've given them like little bits of advice
in the direction that they're going to help their business grow
and things for them to focus on
and kind of already mentoring them.
And I'm like, hey, here's some things
that I could use help for with Mind Pump
and giving them that opportunity to kind of show me and Almost everybody that I feel like I've given that opportunity, I feel they want me,
they want me to hold their hand and take them through the things that I need and where
we're at with this business right now, if we're going to mentor and bring somebody on board
at all, it's going to end up being more than likely, it's going to end up being a position where they're going to have to lead other people
underneath them.
And I don't want somebody that I meet that I feel like I have to hold their hand and
tell them what to do.
We don't have time for that.
I don't have time to train and develop somebody, right?
That should happen naturally just from you being here and being around us and listening
to the podcast.
But if I have to constantly direct you and tell you what can you bring to the table that's
going to help us, that doesn't help me at all.
That's just I'm still having to do that.
So I really would love to see somebody who could enhance what Doug is having to do all
on his own right now and take some of that off of his plate.
So he doesn't so he can focus 100% on producing
the show and producing the content that we do and help him that whether it be graphically
or designing like Justin's saying or just being able to rip content like that out.
So for me, to me, that's what I want.
And they need to be somebody who could be in-house who could come here.
So we're setting up station. There's part of this, the facility will have cubicles
for four employees that can be in-house
where we'll have stations set up, work,
and have the computer laptop, whatever,
and they can be doing work.
And they're gonna be interacting with us on a daily basis.
So that's all coming.
We plan to find someone.
If you're someone who's interested in that,
you are local that That appeals that you
do have some skill sets. Send your resume over to info at mindpumpmedia.com. Brianna will
get to you and she'll get us the information. She'll probably have to filter someone first.
She knows what we're looking for. Then she will contact us and let us know.
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