Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 420: Training Sore Muscles, Trusted Supplements, Best Questions Trainers Can Ask Clients & MORE
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What was that, what was that term we, Adam?
What was that term we learned in Austin for vagina?
Stitch, Tritch.
Oh, that's not a list.
I'm gonna use that.
I was waiting.
I think we're on now.
I think we're recording now, dude.
I know we are. Well, I don't know if we're on now. I think we're recording now, dude. Oh, yeah
Well, I don't know if we're gonna put that up. Why not? Oh guess we can
People even know people need to know about your pussy magnetism was that you have a who said that was that was that Connor
Who who who who use the stinch? No, that was that person we saw the bar. Yeah. Yeah, what stench trench? I
Don't even remember actually. I don't remember where that came out
I remember it so insane and I don't remember how we got it.
It just makes it not sound awesome.
You know what I mean?
Like if a girl was like, hey, I want you to look at my stench trench.
You know, it's like, especially if you had that kind of voice.
It's like, you know, especially if she sounded like that.
I don't know why I made it.
Why did I make it?
She picks you up, you know, you're trying to hit your ride and then you get in this big rig and she's like,
Hey, no.
You want to play with my stench, trench?
Like, you're going in Nebraska.
Actually, right? Oh my God.
Even before she all get out right here,
even before she said stench, trench,
if she just sounded like you just did right now,
her name is March.
I get the fun out.
Hey, come on in.
Whoa, it's gonna be a fun ride. It might be a fun ride.
Just me and my stanched trench might be a fun ride.
Let's discuss. I feel like among all of us, put your hand
right here. I feel like Adam would be the most likely to be
attracted to that. Only what? Yeah, you know why?
No, no, no, let me tell you why that's not true. You we we
you know, you like you, I could see you like.
You like powerful women.
Yeah, you always say that.
So that's a very like, oh,
you see that I'm kind of older.
So you got testosterone.
I think stanched, strenzial,
I think it's gonna go more towards like the hippie
who doesn't take care of herself
and ever shower type of person,
which I definitely think would be more your style.
No, no, no, no, no, for sure.
You know, it's funny.
So actually healthy people probably have good smelling vagina.
Yeah, because the flora is all balanced.
Yeah, so I think someone who may-
We're about to, he's worked out.
Who dooshes too much might have a problem, you know what I'm saying?
Yeah, if you're doing that, it's probably not me.
You set off a teeny bomb on that.
That's gross.
How did we kick this off with smelly vaginas?
Did you really just lost half of our new audience?
No, we just, we're, sometimes we have to talk about it.
We were just, let's talk about pharomones for a second.
I feel like this is an important subject.
You guys ever noticed that, like,
if you're really attracted to a woman,
just her body smell, something about her body smell
is just such a turn on.
Did ever happen, you guys?
Well, yes, as long as it's like, she's still showers.
No, I'm not saying like, it's smelly smell.
I'm not like into the whole, like,
yeah, like super earthy, patchouli,
see, I think, no, I'm just saying,
like, you just smell their arm, you know what I mean,
their neck. I think, I think there is.
Nobody does that.
I think there is.
You don't smell your, you don't like it.
No, I don't, I don't, I don't,
I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't,
I don't like it.
No, like the neck, you know what I'm saying?
Like, I'm cool with that.
Well, that's, we'll put on some certain fragrances.
I'm like, what kind of fragrance?
What's your favorite fragrance?
I don't know what,
I think it's like,
curve or something for women?
Curve.
Curve or what?
Oh, so it's a perfume.
Yeah, it gets,
I don't like perfume.
You don't have a specific,
very subtle though.
It's like a drop of it.
You don't have a specific scent like,
like honeydew or, you know,
pumpkin spice or armpit.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
Nothing like that.
Vanilla.
Oh yeah like lotions.
Yeah yeah yeah yeah like vanilla atom.
Yeah like so.
And it likes the, this is the rainbow.
This is my theory on that.
I think that at one point in our lives, whether it be going all the way back to when we
were babies or during puberty or so.
So I have this very, very strong attraction
to the smell of vanilla.
Like all the candles in my house are vanilla.
I love when my girl wears vanilla lotion from bed bath,
or bed bath, not bed bath, what's the body works?
What is the body works or what other fuck that is?
And Victoria's secret, I love the vanilla smell, right?
And I know part of that stems from my
stripper that one time. Well the early years when I was going through puberty, I love the vanilla smell, right? And I know part of that stems from my atstriper
that one time.
Well, the early years when I was going through puberty,
the girl that I was dating and experiencing
a lot of my first sexual experiences was with this girl
and the smells that she smelled like I was very,
very attracted to.
And so I think I connect.
You do realize that your girl will never wear vanilla.
No, that's not true.
You literally just said, that's true.
Mine was cut and skinny.
I have a relationship with my girl where we just,
we talk about things like this.
So you're like, baby, you smell just like my sister.
No, I don't say that.
I share it the same way I just shared with the audience right now
is that I believe that when you have this,
like in the way you think that you think it's a,
the fair mones that you're trying to in the smell,
I think you probably had an experience at one point in your life
where you had a smell that was similar to that,
that you have connected to a part of your life where.
That's why I tell my girlfriend
to put baking all over her stomach.
Maybe, maybe.
It just reminds me of baking.
And I wouldn't be surprised if that explains
what fetishes like that,
because some people are weird like that,
where they like these weird, you know,
smells of food and things like that,
that they connect that with some of the else.
Well, there's definitely memory connections with smells.
I mean, a smell will take you somewhere so quickly.
Right, I'll never notice that.
Like, you walk in a room, you smell something,
you're like, just infarated or whatever, right?
And you remember exactly the time that he farted the first time.
But there's also, there's also, they call it Irish moths.
But pheromones definitely exist,
and they definitely do influence how we feel one of the reasons
Why we like to kiss each other is because we like to smell each other
This has been proven
I'm not a taste and what I thought was about the taste. Well taste how much of taste is smell?
Mm-hmm a good chunk of that right very very good point. Yeah, you know what I mean?
So you know how you know when you know when Adam's always like he's like smelling and tasting breath Yeah, like Adam what I mean? So, you know, when Adam's always like, he's like smelling and tasting breath.
Yeah, like Adam's always trying to like,
he's always trying to nuzzle my beard.
I'm like, what are you doing, bro?
It's the smell.
Yeah, yeah, a little extra.
It's my beard.
It's my beardly smell.
I see.
Anyway, what happened to your new shoes?
You know, you're not wearing your new converse anymore?
No, I, you know, these are comfortable.
I wanna save those for special occasions.
What is he, he saves his his new conference when he dresses up.
Exactly, that's what I'm dressed in.
Yeah, we're going out to that one.
I'm going to sweat the shit wearing the new cons.
That shit.
Is there something to keep on fresh, Pear?
So I need you guys to help
because you guys are much more experienced
when it comes to wearing Chuck.
I haven't worn Chuck's for decades.
Just started wearing them again.
So I wore them as a kid and now I'm wearing them again.
Is there something special about chucks
where the older they get, the more you like them?
Yeah, they fit better.
Yeah, I almost want to mold your foot.
I don't want to get new ones,
because I like these ones.
I feel the same way, dude.
Yeah, no, the material is,
I mean, they're like a pair of jeans, right?
Like a good pair of worn jeans.
Like when you wear in your jeans,
like nobody likes a pair of jeans
when you just first buy them in comparison
the pair you've had for like three years that you loved to wear. It's just a jeans when you just first buy them in comparison the pair
You've had for like three years that you loved to wear
But I feel like chucks are very similar. I mean they're made of that kind of gene material
And so the more you wear they you wear right into them to the form around your feet
So they can even more comfortable the only problem is that
Like if you have the lighter pairs like my white white ones, I always have to, in the buying a new pair.
Did you feel the black ones though?
The black and the dark colors are like red, like I'll wear the red ones so they turn
fucking pink and I wear the black ones till they turn gray.
Do you wash them? Can you put them in the wash?
You can, I have, you know what I have.
I have, and they're just not quite the same. It's not the same as like just wearing them
till they're, and for me, they're $40 fucking shoes,
so I just wear them until I get a year plus
out of a pair of chucks.
So if it's a 40 bucks every year to get a new pair of chucks,
I'm like, whatever.
So I got made fun of the other day on,
I don't remember Instagram because apparently
your shoelaces are too long.
What, so what's the deal with that?
Are you supposed to change the shoelaces?
Well, why didn't you fuckers tell me?
Well, you didn't let me fuck sh-
You don't ask because I've already tried it.
You don't double not, bro.
No, I didn't have to, you just tell me I would have done it.
Well, I hear something.
Well, I know what happened.
You guys are like, let's make them look ridiculous. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, using the spoon or using the tractor to dig the hole, right?
When I try and help you with fashion,
I try and give you the big things,
and that would be wearing the black socks
with your black shoes,
but you're wearing white socks again with your black shoes.
So I'm not gonna give you a hard time
about the length of your shoelaces
because you haven't fixed the first problem.
So I'm trying to help you little by little
with those little things, but if I tell you,
and then you stop doing it,
then what the fuck's the point of nitpicking
all the other little things you're doing?
Oh, so just so leave them then.
Yeah, I mean, if you're not going to give a shit about the socks matching, then who cares
if your shoelaces are a little too long, too?
Oh, cool.
Because I like the long shoelaces.
Yeah, it goes with you.
I feel, yeah, I just, they're just, you know, things are longer on me.
You know what I mean, Adam?
Oh, yeah.
Sure, sure.
It's a thing I want to be drawn, bro.
I want to be consistent with my theme here. It's a thing. How are we going to draw it out of the consistent with my theme here?
It's like a pencil.
And my lead long skater in terms of length of things.
Hey, with the hell, I can't sing.
So whatever.
I can't sing.
You can't dress.
You know, so no, you can sing.
You can't sing.
You can't dress.
Only thing about you is a play that you caress.
I don't know.
I didn't know where to go with that. That was good Collins. Yeah, yeah
Collins right there
Our audience yeah, that's our demographic yeah, you lost all the 25 year old and young
Real Collins they're like the constant. Did he just I don't know Adam Justin say every time he sings like the panties fall
How about when your cousin was inside of our facility yesterday?
And he was fixing the floors and he had never seen NBA jam before.
Oh, the North.
What the fuck is he?
He's a sheltered or what?
He's young.
How young is he?
He's got to be early 20s then.
Yeah.
See, here's the thing.
Video games real quick made a massive shift.
Like who the fuck went to our Cades after gaming consoles got really good.
Yeah, right after Xbox.
It just that's it.
Like why would you go
I know they were in pig they were still popular during the Nintendo days and Atari days when we were all playing because our
Kades were still cool. There's this place called special effects. We should just live there, but I feel I feel like yeah
I feel like a kid like him. No seas that they look at and they're like that's so lame. Why would you?
Bro, I used to I used to only three buttons like you know, so I used to walk to this place by my,
but I grew up right. There was this place called Vr.
It was the express market and it had,
they had like two arcade games there and one of them was Street Fighter.
And it was a good 15 minute walk to this place.
Maybe 20 minutes. I used to find one quarter and I'd make the fucking walk
all the way over there just to play.
Yes. One game you had to make that happen. And if lost I just had you died you fucked and so inevitably I'm playing right?
I'm playing Street Fighter and I got pretty good until the young
Asian kid jumped on there and then we're just whoop all over me
Uh-huh, and you know I'm talking about yeah remember that we were kids. Oh, yeah the little Asian kid that would get on there
Would come in and then chung leave your face. Just fucking whoop on you.
Yeah.
So I'm not being racist right now.
No, I'm just saying they're good.
Maybe that wasn't the character he chose.
No, I'm just saying they're good.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They were good back then.
Ah, with you on that.
And it was always the young Asian kid.
You know what I mean?
It's just like ping pong.
I just get destroyed.
Where'd you play ping pong?
All the time.
Me and my brother would play it because we grew up on this kind of campgrounds and like
they would have these conferences coming in now. Oh yeah, that's right. You do like ping pong dude. I mean it was my jam that and and
The other one who's ball who's ball?
We would like yeah, that was the one thing me my brother
We were just like dominate people because we would practice all summer and we play and then like yeah
Do you guys make a kid to come and just destroy us really? They'd fuck'd fuck you up to fuck yeah god damn it pissed me off
That's crazy, but I adopted the whole way to hold the the handle because I thought I could okay
Maybe I'm doing it wrong so you watch them said watch and study and like yeah, she's never was on that level
I wonder how I wonder if Adam's good at foosball. I don't feel like you the foosball. Are you good at foosie?
Well, we'll see we'll see we'll see we'll see
Oh, let's see a fuzball play table yeah yeah you know I the fuzball will be perfect
because that's even are you fucking even looking for the arm wrestling thing
are even doing that at all yeah don't don't look at don't worry chat I'm on top of
it for you don't worry yeah no it's it's not like the easiest for you know how hard
it was for me to find those two games it's not like everybody is trying to
sell their arcade game. Do those.
Most people don't want to let go of that shit because they know it's worth money.
So it's tough to find something like that and finding your arcade machine or your little
arm wrestling machine.
You know, people that kept those still living grandma's basement.
Yeah, I mean, pretty much.
Yeah, pretty much.
But food, you know, Fuzball will definitely be something that we get over here.
It's something easy that we can roll in and out of the closet, too.
So even if we don't like it in our space, it's not something that we it's that big of a deal to get out of the way
So it'd be great to throw some tournaments in there. Boom. Bing some balls. Yeah
Everybody shut up. He always wanted to say that here's shoes. Oh
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First question is from comic fitness. What supplements do you use? I'm all about creatine. Oh good, okay
Does it say user trust? Oh trust? I can't I can't read the right
Justin wrote my Justin wrote the board today.
So it's, it's why don't do it?
It's half Spanish, half German, and calligraphy.
Yeah.
So if you could figure that out, Doug, that would be great.
I wanted to be a doctor.
I thought I'd figured it out at a time,
but I guess I didn't.
So what supplements do we trust?
And then he says he's all about creatine.
That's probably the one I take consistently.
Do you still?
Yeah, I take creatine consistently.
Why doesn't it seem to be working?
What do you mean?
Oh my god, let me try and hit you.
You're trying to be funny again, yes?
No, I actually, fuck, I don't even mess with creatine.
The probably the only supplements I would consider
that I take right now is our chimericophie
because it's got the new tropic sentence.
So that's the only thing that I really am taking out a consistent base. Every once in a
while I still use way protein because I still use way because I have a hard time getting
over 180 grams of protein consistently every day. So especially when I'm intermittent fasting
and if I had a couple days where we're traveling.
So I'll utilize an organic all natural way still and then our chimerik coffee and that's really
all that I've been messing with. But I did use creatine in the past. You don't even take fish oil,
huh? Okay, that's another one every once in a while, but I also use that based off the diet.
So if I have... Well, yeah, if you eat fish,
I'm always, I'm always,
because I love fish.
So I try and incorporate fish already in my diet.
How often?
Probably three times a week.
I've got fish in the diet.
You know, I would say every other day,
I try and make an effort.
And that's kind of how I am with all my meat.
So I have like a, you know,
a, a, a,
a,
a,
a,
a,
a,
a, a, a or beef, right,
and then fish.
And then I try and rotate all those.
And if I find a day where I've had two or three of them
back-to-back, two or three days in a row,
if I can't get to the fish or whatever,
then you'll see I'll take my Omega's.
But that's the only time I take it
is if I notice that I've had some days in a row
where I haven't had any fish.
Otherwise, I'm just trying to make sure that I like supplements for, like you're
saying, like, you know, according to my diet or how I'm feeling right now, I have a cold.
So I'll be taking elderberry and there's a little bit of congestion in my lungs. I'll
take fennigreek, which is good to kind of help dry that out. Cratee and I take relatively
consistently, not daily, but maybe four days a week or so, I'll take a couple of grams or creatine,
only because the literature on creatine is just so supportive.
Right, yeah.
If it's benefit, there's even health benefits
to taking creatine.
If you're a vegan, you definitely get a benefit.
You get a cognitive benefit from taking creatine.
They've actually done studies and shown that IQ scores
will go up because creatine, although your body's in it.
Yeah, your body can synthesize it from certain amino acids,
but because you're not eating any animal proteins
or animal...
Well, and that's the true example of wind disupplement, right?
Something that you're deficient in that you're not really
getting from your food.
And I did get a lot of a great results from creatine. I tend to use
that a little bit more though when I'm trying to load. I'm trying to bulk up a bit. And
I may be a little bit more focused on adding a little bit more performance enhancements
and things and experimenting with things on top of diet. And so I'd be more prone to
adding a bit of creatine then.
And I have seen great results with that.
And a little bit of way protein and stuff like that,
supplemental wise where, you know,
maybe I don't have as much time to prepare
steaks or meats or fishes or things like that.
That's really available.
But other than that, like it tends to revolve around
like whole natural foods as much as possible.
It's funny, because I used to take so many supplements
and I literally noticed nothing when I stopped taking them.
Actually, in some cases, I noticed better health
from not taking all these fucking supplements.
Now, I still have a drawer full of supplements,
but they're all, again, used as needed.
Like, I might take vitamin D if I haven't been outside, very much a multivitamin.
If I feel like my diet's been really crappy, I may take sometimes, maybe not.
Sam E is a supplement that'll take sometimes, if I'm feeling kind of down, I notice that
it'll pick me back up.
Nothing really consists of that.
I'm telling you that the contrast between
what I used to do and what I do now
is so dramatic for supplements,
I must be saving hundreds of dollars
a month on supplements today,
and I feel better than I ever have.
And that's what I get from people who listen to the show
and start doing that themselves.
Every single person is like,
you know what, I stopped taking all these supplements.
I noticed no difference.
But that's the dream shift.
I mean, that's kind of the turning of the wheel
that we did where we realized, oh shit,
we don't need all these things in addition
to what we're doing in our diet.
And that tended to be the voice in our messages
to kind of like pull away from that.
Whereas, you know, like there is still,
like if we approach it with maybe I'm deficient or messages to kind of like pull away from that. Whereas, you know, like there is still like,
if we approach it with, maybe I'm deficient or,
you know, I'm not like likely to get this in my diet,
you know, where are the holes in my diet
and where can I, you know, supplement accordingly
and all that.
So there's still a place there.
I think that's what,
not even just that, not even just a diet.
Like this is what, I mean, it was a great conversation
we had with Dr. Andrew Hill recently. And, you know, if your sleep is fucked up, man, if you're not sleeping
right and your stress levels are crazy and you're not, I mean, there's, there's things that
you can do that are going to improve your overall fitness goals by addressing those things
first before we start to supplement like this, this pill into our body to try and help us
get the competitive edge.
Like it's, in fact, I believe he even said
it's really silly, you know,
it's really silly for us to go this route
where we're taking these supplements,
but then we're missing out on things that are so much bigger.
You know, learning to settle down at nighttime
and get a good night's rest will benefit us way more than,
you know, taking a supplement or balancing out
your diet and getting nutrient dense foods in your diet on a regular basis and exercising
properly and learning how to prime your body before you go into workout.
There's all these things that don't cost us any money that we can learn to do to better
perform before.
That's where I think that's the stance.
I'm not saying that.
I'm not anti-fraking.
You got to build up to peak performance by applying all the foundational concepts and
being really good at efficient at that to then experiment with other performance enhancing
things that are available.
Well, I think with the supplement company too or supplement that you're going to take,
look at the direction that they're going to look at what they're marketing towards.
If it's a fat burn, build muscle, you know, these types of things, typically they're going to look at what they're marketing towards. If it's a fat burn, build muscle, these types of things,
typically they're not gonna do much for you,
if anything at all, if it's a supplement company
that doesn't pretend to be the answer to everything,
then maybe they've got some products
that you might have fun taking.
But I think people need to really consider
just how pervasive the placebo effect is.
You need to understand that when pharmaceutical companies
do trials on drugs,
they have to account for the placebo effect.
The placebo effect is fucking real.
It's, you can count on the placebo effect.
And I can pretty much guarantee
that the vast majority of products out there
and supplements help people through the placebo effect
simply because they think they're taking something
that's gonna do something, do they then feel something.
And it's documented.
So stop taking supplements and see what happens.
You might be surprised.
I think actually what you'd be surprised at
is how much more money you have in your wallet.
Well, that's what I'm saying.
I'm not saying that you can't.
This is why I really like Ben Greenfield.
I really think that if you're gonna get into biohacking
and get into supplementing with all these different things,
this guy is doing all the other stuff first.
He's doing this other doesn't cost him your money, right?
He's taking these.
It makes sense to put a fucking wing on the fucking,
you know, a car you've maxed out, done everything.
Yes, right?
But if you're driving a shitty S-car,
it does not gonna do anything for you.
And I gave that analogy a long time ago
as far as referring to what I thought.
It's not about flying cars.
No, I think he means as a spoiler.
And that's what I feel like you have a,
if you have a drag car, the spoiler is like what the benefit benefit that you get from
like supplements. And if you have an engine that is underperforming and you have shitty
tires, you have a terrible suspension, then focusing on putting a, a spoiler is kind of
stupid. I don't put a spoiler on a 1989 Civic. Yeah, but if you've built the engine,
you've everything, the suspension is tight,
you've got great wheels on it,
then hey, why not throw a spoiler on the car
because you are, you are already optimizing
all these other things, like,
and that's what's cool about Ben Greenfield is,
I remember like he was going to his house
and just seeing this motherfucker lives his brand,
like he literally is doing all these
things that he talks about. And then now he's experimenting with little things like creatine or
adding these little new tropics or adding things to his diet to get to the next level. So I really feel
like people should really learn to do all those things first. And then hey, if you feel like you're
fucking dialed nutritionally, you feel like you've got great sleep,
you feel like you're doing all those pieces
and you wanna try and add creatine in there
and see how much more am I getting out of my workouts,
but I mean, I would first address my programming,
my priming, my body heading into that, my nutrition,
my sleep, all those I'm going to address first.
And then when I, if I feel like I'm fucking dialed
all the way in, then yeah, maybe I'm gonna to add some creatine to my, my workout to try
and maximize that or something. But I mean, definitely focus on the big things first.
MJ Fit Fam. What are the top five questions for a trainer to ask new clients?
Well, number one has got to be, what are your goals? That's got to be the number one question
you need to ask. I mean, and I'm going to take that further because I like to name when someone
gives me when someone gives me a goal, I don't, I don't just stop there. So like, you know,
let's say somebody says they want to lose 30 pounds. To me, that's not the answer yet.
I still, then I'm going to ask them why? And I want to dive in deeper to what is causing them to want to lose 30 pounds and to get
really into this person and how they tick.
So I think the goal is important, but a lot of times when you're a trainer and you're just
meeting somebody and you're kind of asking them questions like this that are normally
a deep rooted in securities and things going on.
They're going to give you surface answers.
A really good trainer can actually learn to dive deeper into what makes this person tick
and what is really motivating them.
If you can do that, I find that you're going to be able to help this person on a whole
other level.
I find...
Well, how many times have you heard someone just say, I want to get in shape? Right. Like, what does that mean? Yeah, define that for
me. What does that mean to you? What's why I like to, yeah, I like to highlight what their
expectations are, you know, right away. So it's like, I want to see where their vision is as
far as, you know, coming into this, like, what are they expecting to get out of training? And,
you know, how much time are you giving me to even like that for you? And what does that even look like?
And then from there, can discern what to focus on
and how to direct that process for them to understand
what exactly I'm going to do with them.
Yeah, you have to, whatever the top five questions are,
you have to dig deeper and get people
to really have a conversation with you.
Otherwise, it's not gonna mean much.
Like if I say to someone,
what are your goals, they say getting shape
and I just leave it at that.
I don't know what direction to go with my assessment.
I don't know what direction to go with my workouts.
I don't know what direction to go
with our conversation at all.
And by the way, a very effective way
to get people to elaborate on a question is to say,
how do you mean?
It's far less threatening than saying, what do you mean?
And so if someone says, I want to get in shape, it's, well, how do you mean?
And they tend to get into detail with that.
And the second question, I think I'll ask is, what does your exercise history look like?
What does it look like?
What do you do now and what have you done in the past?
And then again, you need to elaborate. If they tell me that they used to do Pilates in yoga and they stopped doing
that a year ago, I'm going to ask them, what do they like about it and what did they not like about
it and why did they stop? What made them stop that particular exercise modality? And I need to know
why they stopped because we don't want to repeat the old behavior. Excellent question.
Yeah.
It's a good thing.
And that's something I would tell them.
I'll literally tell them that like, okay, so you stopped doing Pilates because you got
too busy.
How do we prevent that from happening?
I just want to say my next my follow up to that exact question is, you know, I'm curious
to what's different this time.
You know, what is different this time than the previous time that you've been in shape?
And just like Sal said,
because we don't wanna go down that same path.
If it's just, and I really feel like losing weight
is very similar to somebody who has like
lofty financial goals.
A lot of times like when we are chasing like a success
financially, people are chasing like a number
or a dollar amount.
And then when they finally achieve it, they realize that happiness
isn't there, they're not satisfied still.
A lot of that is very similar to people that are chasing fitness goals is really, it's
not about a number on the scale or even a way they look in the mirror.
It's something internally that they need to work on and a really good trainer can help
somebody find that and get to that by and a really good trainer can help somebody find that
and get to that by asking a lot of these questions. And, you know, absolutely what Sal said,
and then I would follow that up with a, you know, what is different this time. And, you know,
have you made, are you able to dedicate a certain amount of time, either daily or weekly for yourself?
And then I want to get them to commit to that. I want them to get to commit to this time
for, you know, Sal is my client.
And I'm saying, you know, how much time do you have
for Sal during the week?
Because I know, you know, you're a wife and you have kids
and you have all these.
You're like, I did that.
Mm-hmm.
You have kids and you have a husband that you're pleasing
and you're cooking dinner and you've got all.
I'm just a fuck out of them.
You've got all these things that you know
yourself some knee.
But this is a true story, right?
I always like to, I talk to my ladies like this when I'm talking to them that, you know,
we put all these people in front of us, our goals, our bills, our house, our job, our
children, our spouse, and then all the way down on number 10,
or sometimes less, is where we put ourselves
and our personal well-being and health.
And it's crazy because if that's in line
and we're really healthy and happy with ourselves,
and it's amazing how much all those other things
that are supposedly more important to you are enhanced.
So something that we need to do is we need to find time to commit to yourself,
to better yourself.
And, you know, the first step is actually slotting that, you know, is making this time that,
okay, Sal, we're going to give you, you know, Monday, Wednesday, and Friday from this
time to this time, this is going to be this hour for you.
And sometimes we're going to be really heavily focused on resistance training and working out. And other times we're going to be talking about for you. And sometimes we're going to be really heavily focused on resistance training and working out.
And other times we're going to be talking about mental health
and other times we're going to be talking about nutritional health
because all of it together is what's really important
to your success.
I think it's also important you ask them
any past injuries and any current injuries or pain
because this is a very, a lot of times people come in
and they say, you know, they want to get in better shape
or they want to lose weight,
but they've been dealing with this chronic shoulder pain or knee pain or back pain.
And to them, they've kind of accepted that, and they don't realize how important that is to them until you start to have, get them talking about it.
And that also helps direct what you're going to do with your workout as well.
Because if I can take this person and make their knees start to feel better because we're changing recruitment
patterns or increasing extensibility
in particular muscles or stability or whatever,
I'm gonna present a lot of value.
In fact, I'll tell you something right now,
you will be more valuable to someone
if you can get their pain to go away.
Yeah, if you can get their pain to go away,
you'll be more valuable than if you can make them lose weight.
Well, I know.
100%.
This is a great point because I have a client just like that
that immediately the wants to come in lose weight
and it's very aesthetic driven and has like slightly
a frozen shoulder, like a looming humongous issue
that well,
this is kind of like she's already accepted the fact that,
you know, like doesn't have the type of mobility
or ranges of motion or ability she used to even have
with her arm, and that's a big deal.
And to be able to redirect the thinking there
and highlight the fact that that's so important
for the rest of her life
and that us addressing that will then spawn all this other activity and will, you know, really bring in
the synergistic effect of now I can move my body efficiently, now everything's operating at 100%
my metabolism's changing, all these kinds of things are going to happen as a result, but
guess what, this is going to be the priority. It's not what you wanna hear.
Yeah, I think it's, I mean, I can't stress this enough.
If you wanna be a trainer who is successful long term,
who provides real value to people,
because I know people wanna lose weight
and I wanna get in shape and build muscle and all that stuff.
But if they have pain, if they have chronic pain,
and you can help them solve that issue,
you will become far more valuable to them than if you got them to lose 30 pounds.
I can't stress that enough.
And I know some people thinking, well, that's not true because if you,
if you listening right now have chronic pain, you know what I'm talking about?
You just deal with that shit every single day, day in and day out.
It is life changing for that pain to go away.
It is absolutely life changing.
So if you can help them with that, and many times, I'm going to be honest with you, many
times, it's not that hard of a fix. I've literally had people, you know, with shoulder pain,
and you know, during my assessment, I'll have them do, you know, some cable rows and
stand behind them and pull their shoulders back and down for them to get them to good
scapular traction depression. Then I'll have them sit there and rest,
and while they're resting, I'll press on the top
of their traps with some nice pressure,
so I can do a little bit of deep tissue massage,
then I'll have them do another set,
and I'll do this three or four times,
and I'll have them stand up and I'll have them move
their arm, and their shoulder pain is dramatically reduced
right then and there.
Now, imagine the value that I've just shown that person.
First, I look like a fucking magician when I do that, right?
Like, oh my god, this trainer's like, I'm not,
I'm just getting the recruitment pattern changed temporarily,
but that kind of value, when you can present that to somebody,
it's invaluable.
Well, and this is why we also address the fact
that creating this entertainment factor to it
and creating this totally intense workout and
something that's going to wow them right out of the gates is such the wrong
approach to take. Like a long term like you may you may buy them in with the fact
that oh such a great workout I got sore and it just this is something that doesn't
last. This is something that still exists is what like it just highlights the
fact that like,
trainers need to take their job more seriously
and get educated and not get so absorbed
by the hype of a lot of these modalities out there
that are just exposing the fact that people get sucked
into what sexy and what looks like,
the answer to get them in shape and ripped
and all these different things.
Like, you need to take the opposite approach to that
and do the hard thing, which is to really work
with that person on the things that need to be addressed the most.
And one of the questions has to be to ask the person,
if there are any medications that you need to know about.
I don't necessarily ask them what meds are you on, but I'll say are there any medications
that I need to know about as a personal trainer and are there any medications that can affect
your heart rate?
This is very, very important.
Now, you may not know what the medications are when they rattle them off to you, but it's
important to have those as a resource because if they do hire you, you're going to want
to see, hey, this person's on a beta blocker or, you know, this person's on,
just started taking a statin. Because if you start noticing certain side effects and you can't pinpoint
what the fuck is going on, like if I'm doing cardio with this person and I'm checking their heart rate
and it ain't going up and but they're look like they're freaking straining and, you know, I know that
the beta blocker may be one of the reasons why the heart rate is affected. Or, you know, hey, I just
started taking the stat in the last month,
and we're working out, and they're not getting stronger,
and I'm noticing control issues with their muscle.
Well, that's maybe one of the main side effects
of taking a stat in like, this is important information.
It's not necessarily gonna help you,
getting the client to hire you.
Yeah, I'll go on the last one for that,
because I was just thinking that when you said that,
because I think what you're saying is basic park you.
I mean, you have to ask that right?
You have to ask it aches, you know, aches, pains, injuries,
you know, medication, anything like that,
that could put depression, anything, anything
that could be totally hindering their results
for sure you have to ask those,
which I think if you're a private trainer,
you could literally Google, you know, trainer park you
and you'll get, you can print off online like a basic. A good point, you know, trainer park you and you'll get a,
you can print off online like a basic,
which you'll have that basic stuff.
But like money maker questions for us,
I think some of the ones that we first said,
and then for like what Salah is saying
as far as getting commitment or getting them to hire you,
I'll ask them a very straight up question
on a scale of one to 10, their commitment level.
I think that's one being you're not very committed
to this goal and 10 being you're extremely committed,
you'll do whatever it takes.
And most people are gonna tell you they're a 10.
And I want them to verbalize that
because I'm gonna hold that back.
I'm gonna come back to that and remind them that, listen,
you know, when we first were sitting down
and talking about your goals, you know,
you were at a 10 of commitment
level.
This is super important to you.
You're obviously looking to me to help guide you.
I'm going to give you some things that are going to be challenging and maybe things you're
going to have to sacrifice or choices you're going to have to make that you're not used
to.
If you're at level 10 commitment that I'm hoping that you're willing to go through this
process so I can help you, otherwise, you may not be at 10.
You may be more like a six or a five in that, so I'll really make sure that I ask that
question and dig into that a bit.
Have you guys ever had, because I know we have a lot of trainers left.
I'm seeing.
Have you guys ever had a situation where, well, I'm sure you guys have done hundreds of
not thousands of assessments.
Any standout to you where you do your assessment and everything and it's just fucking backfires
or the client, just the potential client just did not work.
You guys have any memories of that?
Wow, were you mean were we made a mistake or something?
You made a mistake or the person just said, yeah, I mean, I'm definitely very serious about
exercise.
Talk about trying.
You're not the one I want to work with, you know?
Talk about trying to dig deep right there. I think, I think early years, which
I, this is, I, I, I talk about a lot about your, your greatest strength is normally your
greatest weakness. And, you know, as a, as a communicator, even at a young age, I, I,
I had the gift of gab. I was able to talk to people, be a chameleon. Like, these are
all great strength to have,
but then sometimes what would happen for me
when I would get in a situation is I would talk myself
out of a sale.
I would talk too much about what I'm gonna do
or what I wanna do and I didn't spend enough time
really digging into this person
and asking a lot of the right questions
and then truly listening.
So that to me is, and I know Sal has talked about it
before about using the ears before the mouth type of deal.
And I definitely think that that was something
that I, over the years I grew
because I definitely probably walked some people
from a cell because I talked
too much and overwhelmed them to where they were like, oh my god, I was just trying to
lose a few pounds and I feel like you just made this sound like it's this fucking huge
daunting task to get to my goal. So I had to learn to know when to push and pull with that.
So I had a similar experience, but it was more on like being too showy, right?
So I would take a client and try to overwhelm them with like, I know so much stuff.
Oh, you just confused the show.
Yeah, I just confused.
Yeah, I didn't pick up on there very similar.
Their body language that they're telling me like, look, I just want to work out.
You know, here's my credit card.
You know, and I'm just like, well, then we're going to do this.
And this is what's going on with your spine.
This is why you have bad posture.
Cool, dude.
And I just kept going on and on and on and on.
And I think that they just got like,
well, I don't know if this is what I'm looking for,
because I just went too far with it.
So that's, you know what that comes from?
I think that comes from sometimes we lack confidence in ourselves.
So the person, that's exactly what it was.
That's an insecurity that we have.
I was totally insecure with how I was presenting it.
Yeah, because that person's like, they want to hire you,
but you're like, no, no, no, let me really show you how awesome I am before you pay.
And then they read right through that confidence.
Yeah, exactly.
I'm like, this kid's about that.
It's fun, it's really stupid.
I had a lady come in once.
I'll never forget.
We did the assessment
and an assessment is not a workout, right?
So she came in and we did our 20, 30 minute assessment
and then I showed her a few exercises
and then we sat down and she's like,
I don't even feel like we worked out.
Like I don't feel like that was a hard workout
and I'm like, well, I mean, we're gonna do that.
You know, if you hire me, we will get some workouts
but my philosophy to, you know, is this that and the other.
And she's like, I just want a hard workout. Like, and she walked out because she was,
because that's all she fucking wanted, you know, was that. And that was a tough one for me because,
and I'll never forget, it was a long time ago. I'll never forget because at the time,
I was kind of a new trainer, and I just wanted new clients, you know, so I thought to myself,
like, I should have just done what she said, so she would have hired me.
Now fast forward to till today,
and I would never compromise my integrity for it.
Well, but I'll never forget, man, she said that.
I walked out and I was like, God damn it.
I think that's a really good point.
I'm glad you brought that up
because I think that's something that we could debate a bit
because you would never compromise that now
because of your ability to communicate, because of your
education level, because of your experience, you wouldn't have to.
But you don't think you can still influence that person if you had them?
Well, that's the thing.
This is so, and I'll tell you that I'll tell you how I got there to where you're at
now.
And it took these steps of actually, I would give that to a client like that.
If they were that adamant,
where I knew I was gonna lose them
and they were going to walk,
that if I just, if I compromised,
like what I thought was best for them,
because it's the fine line that we walk as a trainer
is that we are in a business that
we're in a service industry.
You're servicing another person
and they're paying for a service.
And some people have
I this is the service I want and they that in their mind
They are for sure this is what they want and if they don't buy it from you
They're gonna go buy it from someone else and so I know that if I can't capture them
And and wow them over or impress them or give them what they want at that moment to get them to enroll with me
I'm never gonna be able to impact their lives later down the road and they're just going
to get some trainer who's terrible who's just going to give them what they want and just
keep resigning them and keep selling them more training while they're not really getting
any progress or really truly helping this person with the root cause.
So maybe at first I might give somebody what they're looking for even though I know something
else is better because I know that I'm going to have to slowly win them over.
And that's, I think that is something important because, you know, I would teach trainers the
skill set that you're like, you're sharing what we're sharing right now.
And then they would try and emulate it, but then they didn't quite have the confidence
to be able to get somebody to change their mind in one hour to really understand where
you're coming from and then to now believe in you.
So sometimes you have to kind of give a little bit of what they want even though you know
it's not what's best for them right then and there because it takes a little bit of a
process to change a mind like that in another direction.
So you know, you got to be careful when you listen to all this great information from
mind pump and you hear these trainers that, you know,
fuck, we've been doing this for 15 plus years.
And, you know, we have a total different level of confidence
when we sit down with somebody in comparison
to what I had when I was three years into fitness,
where at that point, you know,
what I might have had to kind of give a little bit
and do what they wanna do,
but then while I was doing it,
I was kind of explaining where this road goes.
Like, we just had a hard ass workout
and she's like high five and like, fuck yeah,
that's what I wanted.
I'm like, well, you know, now that we did that though,
but here's some of the things that could cause us
some problems down the road because we chose to train
so intensely right away.
And then I would start to make them more aware
and educate them along the way.
And then after a while, they start to pick up on,
well, then why are we training this way?
Well, because you were so adamant about me training you this way,
that you weren't going to hire me unless I gave this to you,
but really, I knew it was best for you,
but I knew that until you got to know me
and you trusted me, you weren't going to allow me
to guide you in the right direction.
So that's something to think about.
Jay Swellery, what are the Mind Pump goals for 2017? How will you be able to top 2016?
Oh, we're gonna crush. There's no doubt we're crushing 2016.
Well, to be, you know, to for complete transparency, we have, we just launched
Maps Prime, which is definitely our most original Maps program.
It took us a lot of work, really had to rack our brains to be able to put
something together like Prime because it was nothing else out there like it.
And so it was completely original.
We couldn't borrow off anything.
It wasn't, it was just, we had to put it together in a way where the average person can use it.
We have some goals for releasing maybe one other program,
and then we're going
to go back and bolster all the ones we've created and really focus on what we already
have just making it that much better and well presented.
Yeah, we also have this great facility that we just invested in, we know, Mind Pump Media,
which has got this, you know, this big gym area, this big open space, and then we have this nice recording studio with a green screen and we'd like to host seminars out of our facility.
We'd like to eventually develop talent.
Well, we're already doing that. We've got, you know, we've got Brink coming in for a seminar. We've got Dr. Spina coming in.
We've got the Barefootists coming in. Yeah, we really want to establish ourselves as, you know,
education facility.
Great information for you to count on,
and then we're bringing it in-house.
Yeah, we want that reputation,
you know, we want to solidify that reputation
in that integrity.
So, I mean, like why we partnered with Kettlebell Kings
for the Kettlebells that we have in our facility,
there's lots of Kettlebell companies. Kettlebells that we have in our facility, there's lots of kettlebell companies.
Kettlebell kings are one of the best products,
but they're also purists, and we like that.
They're not about, you know, like,
you know, you see some of these kettlebells out there
that are, you know, they're designed to look cool,
but they're not very functional, you know,
I mean, you don't want to use a kettlebell
that's got all these jagged edges to it,
or, you know, it looks like a whatever, you know,
an animal or whatever, it's very hard to use. we want that we want to work with people who are experts in their field
who are purist we're we we're pretty versed in kettlebells but we aren't the we aren't the kings of
of that of that of that aspect we like them for that. Well we're gonna expand on that I mean there's
other areas of fitness that exactly. We see that like maybe there's somebody else out there that I mean they're they're well known and they're well versed for that very specific niche and
you know, we're all about the purest
mentality and we want to make sure that we we want to align with with companies like that that are really you know trying to
To to to stay in that category. The best information you're gonna get on a product is gonna come from people
who just specialize in that particular area,
but even beyond that, you know,
something I identified years ago,
I started my own wellness facility,
and I owned a gym actually before that at the age of 21,
and I recognize that in the fitness industry,
there is kind of a ceiling if you're an employee
or working for, you know, working the fitness industry.
It's very difficult to be extremely successful unless you start this company and, you know, explode and really blow up.
But let's say you're a really, really good trainer or you know, you know, how to make, you know, nutrition, you know, how to make good food or, you know, you have, you give good advice.
Where do you go from there? I mean, you can work in corporate fitness,
you're only gonna go so far.
You can try opening your own gym, your own facility,
which is a huge risk, and it's very difficult
unless you're super business savvy.
You could be the greatest trainer in the world,
but you're not gonna go very far.
There weren't very many routes to take,
and what we wanna do, maybe 2017, maybe 2018,
is become that place.
We want to be able to produce that talent for these
very gifted trainers, gifted yoga instructors,
gifted nutritionists, or meditation specialists
to where they can go to mind pump media
and we can help develop their talent and help promote it
so that they can do very well with what they're doing,
become independently successful,
but the same time spread this message that they have do very well with what they're doing, you know, independently successful,
but the same time spread this message that they have,
that we find, you know, to be conducive towards health,
longevity, and fitness, you know, to kind of counter
some of the, you know, messages that we've talked about
the fitness industry that we don't like,
that revolve around cosmetic, that revolve around
making people feel shitty and encourage, you know,
poor relationships with food and with exercise.
So I really think that in 2016, we, uh, the main goal was to build this foundation, right?
We knew that, um, you know, the goal was to try and get all the maps out. So we're slightly behind on that.
You know, I know we wanted to have all that out. So, and then like Sal was saying, go back and bolster all of them.
So, uh, everybody, uh, any, any of the questions that we had over the last couple of years and the concerns
we can come back and have coaching points to all those so that we feel like we've got
the programming dialed in really well.
Then we wanted to build a facility that we would be able to do everything in-house that
with the future of mind pump for the next five to ten years can be done out of this facility.
That's not to say that we don't grow out of this before that,
but we knew that we wanted to build something that, okay, all the vision,
all the things and all the legs that this thing is going to have,
can we actually do that out of this facility?
And that is the purpose of the green screen.
That's the purpose of the huge studio.
That's the purpose of the small gym outside in the facility
where we can actually have employees, where we have a lounge area.
We're going to be able to do all these things that we plan to do.
And then in 2017, I really feel that this is going to be the year where you're going
to see us forge some serious relationships.
So we've been vetting a lot of people in this previous year.
We've had a lot of doctors, we've had a lot of companies that we've met with.
We had a lot of people that we were close to foraging relationships with, that we didn't, we've had a few that
we've decided we'd go with right now, but I think that we are going to really align
ourselves in 2017 with the relationships that you're going to see us in the future go forward
with this company, but we were very careful about doing that.
We didn't just hop on the first company that was going to give us
money to promote their shit. Like, we weren't looking for that. That's not what we were trying to do.
We really do want to become, I mean, I really foresee Mind Pump as the filter for the fitness industry
above all other filters. Like, I really believe that we're going to be that big in the industry,
that we are going to be that place that you can trust for information
and that's really what we're about.
It's more about that than actual tangible products for us.
Sure, we're going to have some things that we sell or that we are affiliated with,
but really, I really want to be in the business of information.
I really want to be in the business of health and fitness knowledge and helping people get that.
And then doing it in kind of an entertaining manner.
I mean, we try and to make it digestible for people,
we try and make it very loose and fun.
And I think that is a major goal for us.
I think there's a lot of good doctors and scientists
and people out there that are putting information,
but Jesus, man, you fall asleep to half of it
when you're listening to it.
And then you got the other side
where all these fucking bros are giving bullshit advice.
I think we really want to take all the really good
information, the really good minds out there,
introduce them to you if you don't know them already,
and filter some of the dry stuff out and help you out
with making it digestible.
Well, I think too, like next year, speaking to the fact
that we're gonna have all these like bright minds come
through here, I really feel like it's gonna help us out to help us out and get more educated. And everything we talk about on the show is going
to change as a result of all these bright minds that have come in here and influence us.
So that's, that's, I mean, that was a big goal for us to begin with was just to get more
educated. And we've been definitely spewing out a lot of our own like personal experience and knowledge
and it's definitely time for us to expand on that
a bit further and I feel like 2017
is gonna be a big year for that for us to grow
and that's gonna spark a lot of new things
which I can't wait about.
Yeah, I can't wait for us to really dive into some cool education. You know,
really just expand our, you just even our own breadth of knowledge on everything from,
you know, nutrition and exercise, of course, to things like meditation and mindfulness and,
you know, business and, you know, neuroscience and, you know, the microbiome. I mean, the good thing
about interviewing somebody is really smart people as we get to learn from them, but there's
some cool courses out there that are coming out. Man, the functional stuff that's coming
out that's getting, you know, some little bit of wind is breakthrough.
It's crazy. And just, you know, really, I mean, I've been exposed to it for a while, but now taking the time to absorb it and
really dive in deeper with it is really fascinating to me to see
how quickly it's moving within the professional sports realm and how people are adopting all these
new concepts. For me, personally launching a product is going to be concepts. And for me, personally, launching a product
is gonna be a big deal for me next year.
And it's something that I would love to talk about
on the show a bit more as it's actually out in the open
and our sort of involvement with that
and then being exposed to other products on the market
that are game changer things that people are doing.
So there's just a lot of cool stuff aligned for us next year that will make for great radio,
I feel.
I also think that we're going to get even more connected to our current audience.
Recently, we've been dabbling with our Meevo and how we're going to utilize that to
the live stream.
Yeah, the live stream. so we can become even more connected
with our current audience.
And I think this is something that we've been talking a lot
about how we're going to do that with the private forum
where they're gonna have access to us
where we will be able to live stream and communicate.
I think that's important to all of us
because we've now gotten to a point where we've grown
so big that I mean, gotta remember when we first started we literally were able to talk to almost everybody, you know
And so that's obviously impossible now
So you know, we don't want to lose that that's a very important piece to us and you know
We we care so much about those that that have helped the us grow and continue to push this movement
of just
Educ all of us growing and educating together and I think I'm really really happy with what we were two, two thousand and sixteen went,
even though I feel like we're a little bit behind on some of the things that we wanted to accomplish.
I couldn't be happier with the message that we've continued to give
and even how we've grown through the podcast and like the boys were saying,
I think that we continue to flood ourselves with more and more good education information.
Even our tone and tune will kind of slightly change. we're saying, I think, as we continue to flood ourselves with more and more good education information,
even our tone and tune will kind of slightly change.
And I think that we were always gave that
to everybody that listened.
We don't claim to be the know-it-alls.
We don't claim to be, this is the right way,
or this is the wrong way.
It's that we're constantly trying to share information
and help everybody grow together.
So I see some really big strides in that in 2017.
So I'm super pumped about that.
Elena Janelle, can you train the same muscle group back to back days
if you're not sore from the first day?
So before I answer this, I want to correct part of this question
because she says, if you're not sore from the first day,
you can actually train a muscle group back to back
if you're sore too.
So the answer is yes, and if you're sore,
you can still do it.
The difference is you need to adjust the intensity,
both times.
Frequent stimulation of your muscles
is extremely effective at both getting faster results
and at facilitating recovery.
So if you are sore, sometimes working at the day after,
especially if you work in a very light way
with full range of emotion and good extension
and good contraction, it's going to help it
even recover faster.
But one thing you want to consider,
when you work out, especially for a natural athlete,
the muscle building signal, the adaptation signal,
starts to decline after one to three days.
Although you may still be sore and you may be recovering,
that muscle building signal is gone,
which is why programs like RMAPs programs are so effective
because they focus on frequency stimulation.
You're setting that signal,
you're constantly keeping that signal
as a priority to build muscle,
even though you may still be recovering.
So, the whole, that old concept of,
and I say old because you're starting to see now
other trainers and gyms and stuff start to understand this,
that old concept of beat a muscle up
and the weight til it's fully recovered
before you work it again is getting thrown out because we're starting to understand that
Adaptation, which is what we want we want the muscles to try to adapt which is you know get stronger build
is it can be separate from recovery
So if just because your sore and your recovering does not mean you're adapting
In vice versa, we can cause adaptation changes in muscle without causing further damage.
Like again, if I train my chest really hard today
and it's really sore tomorrow,
and then I go in the gym tomorrow
and I go real lie and get good stretching
with some maybe some peck deck flies and some cables
and just get some blood into that muscle
and work it out at a low intensity,
I'm not gonna create further damage.
In fact, studies will prove this.
But what I will do is I will accelerate the rate of adaptation.
So I'll make that chest, my chest grow even faster.
So frequency, again, very, very important trigger session
concept, the mobility session concept, the focus session
concept on all of our maps programs, understands this
and utilizes it's all about how you use intensity.
If you train really hard one day,
you can hit that muscle again the next day,
you just gotta go with much, much less intensity.
It's a totally different mindset.
And I wanna add, it's very individual.
So if your muscles are very conditioned
and you're in great shape
and you've been doing this for a while, you can train to the higher intensity back to back
days and you can for a complete beginner. A complete beginner will come in and if their
legs are real sore, I might just have them get into like stretch positions and just focus
on moving, you know, the muscles versus, you know, versus working out. And your body
will also adapt to frequency.
When you first take your workout and train muscles more frequently, over time you'll be
able to increase that frequency just like you will with anything else with your workouts.
I can work out, I can work my whole body every day now.
Three or four of those workouts will be intense and the other two or three will be less intense.
I couldn't do that when I first started training my body
on a more frequent basis.
I've noticed that my body, you know,
just, it can handle more.
So keep that in mind as well.
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