Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 434: Productivity & Success Habits, Mind Pump's Advice for Golden Era Bodybuilders & Mind Pump Personality Types

Episode Date: January 11, 2017

Kimera-Quah! iTunes Review Winners! In this episode of Quah, sponsored by Kimera Koffee (kimerakoffee.com, code "mindpump" for 10% off), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about the advice they would give to bodybuilders back in the "Golden Era" of bodybuilding, habits they utilize to optimize efficiency and daily productivity, how they would label themselves and the top fitness/health and nutrition trends of 2017. Get MAPS Prime, MAPS Anywhere, MAPS Anabolic, MAPS Performance, MAPS Aesthetic, the Butt Builder Blueprint AND the Sexy Athlete Mod (The MAPS Super Bundle) packaged together at a substantial DISCOUNT at www.mindpumpmedia.com. Make EVERY workout better with our newest program, MAPS Prime, the only pre-workout you need… it is now available at mindpumpmedia.com Have Sal, Adam & Justin personally train you via video instruction on our YouTube channel, Mind Pump TV. Be sure to Subscribe for updates. Please subscribe, rate and review this show! Each week our favorite reviewers are announced on the show and sent Mind Pump T-shirts! Have questions for Mind Pump? Each Monday on Instagram (@mindpumpradio) look for the QUAH post and input your question there. (Sal, Adam & Justin will answer as many questions as they can)

So, probably our most complete, definitely our most complete bundle. Yeah, not probably, for sure. For sure, our Super Bundle are pretty complete. Our new Super Maps Bundle, it includes all of our Maps programs. You have Maps anywhere, Maps Annaballic, Maps Performance, Maps aesthetic, and Maps, what else do we have in there? Prime! God, how could I forget that?

How dare you? You've got Prime in there as well. How to set up your workouts, how to finish your workouts. You have basically a year's worth of programming. Plus you get all the mods that we have too. We have a ton of mods. All of the mods are free. We're all included. And what's the discount? Because we bundle them all together and they get like a fat 30% does 33% 33% off off the total price. So you have all that and then we have a new program that's going to you're going to get it for free as soon as it comes out, which is coming out this week. This week it comes out it's for anyone who has mapped black. So if you'll get this obviously if you have the bundle you'll get this if you have the bundle you get all of them you get all the mods that we've created. If you actually get if you have black

or any of these bundles you'll get the kettlebell for aesthetics that's've created. If you actually get, if you have black or any of these bundles, you'll get the kettlebell for aesthetics. That's coming out. That's our new program. It is a programmed out workout utilizing only kettlebells. And the goal of this workout is to improve aesthetics. Never been done before, not anything I've ever seen. Well, the maps fashion, right?

So it still has a bit of that. With our programming. Right. Well, the maps fashion, right? So it still has a bit of, with our programming. Right, our specific type of program is we haven't done for one product by itself. And we knew we're gonna ruffle some feathers with this one too because doing kettlebells for aesthetics, which is not what it was created for. We know we're gonna definitely

gonna get some people pissed off and coming after us, which is also why we went out and got a badass kettlebell. There's a special guest instructor in some of the skills videos on the kettlebell first aesthetics. Nassily made Justin look like a little bitch. That's how badass it is. He's a good friend of mine. He's also a really good.

He's nationally ranked in kettlebell sport. The guy's a fucking badass. I've never met anybody with that strength to weight ratio in mybell sport. The guys are fucking badass. I've never met anybody with that strength to weight ratio in my entire life. Mike Sulemi will be teaching you some of the skills portion. So we have that. Yeah, it's very unique in that we have some skills in there, but a lot of it is is primarily based on aesthetics and how to improve your status. So if you enroll now in the Super Maps bundle, that's going to be the kettlebell for aesthetics will be released within the next seven days or so. You get that

for free. So it'll just pop up in your library. Nothing extra for you to do. You can go in there and you can do, and the cool thing about the kettlebell is you get a pair of them you're at home and you could do a badass. When we set it up great, it's really a badass workout. And then there's one more thing. Isn't there one more promo with the SuperMap bundle? Don't they get a nutrition infesting? Yeah, there you go. You also get the nutrition infesting guide for free. So you get your basic nutrition information set up

and you learn how to fast for health. That's all included. For free in the SuperMap bundle, you can find it at mindpumpmedia.com. All right, some iTunes reviews. How do we do? Yeah, we had 20 people review this last week. Not bad, not bad at all.

We're getting some solid numbers. Yeah. And then we're gonna give out six shirts. Six. Six shirts. Why don't you, I have a feeling we're gonna have a lot of people coming on. So why don't you do again tell people how to do the review again?

How to get the review? I don't leave a review. Yeah, yeah. First off, your odds of winning a t-shirt are pretty freaking awesome. You figure 20 people, 6, 1, 3, shirt. That's pretty good odds. I'm not gonna do the math because I can only count to 12. Yeah, I'm a trainer.

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name, so my apologies. Indie Gross, Justin Height, Art and Cheryl Av. All of you are winners and your name, the one I just read, to itandmindpumpedia.com include your shipping address as well as your shirt size. Boom! You guys are gonna look hot. If you wanna pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. Mind, pop, mind, pop with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. Did, did, did, did, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do,, he does. Yeah, you do. But you already forgot this. What I'm gonna do though is, no, you forgot. I'm gonna talk some shit about the LA expo

that just happened this previous weekend that, lot expo. Yeah. Lot of, lot of the expo. Everybody be punching each other. And here's the debate, right? Does this feed into the industry and does it make it grow and make it bigger or does it make it worse

and that's the the rich piana and mack truck throwing blows at the expo this this past where the hell's that he's nobody does i don't know i didn't know who he was until he went until he punched rich piana what's his deal who is? I think he's I think he used to run like I'd so funny these crews. They call them crews Oh, they used to be friends, right? Yeah, I think so. I think they were all buddies. Okay. I think One of the I have no I have no idea why they divided but they split off and Mac truck has his own brand or whatever Everybody does right get a t-shirt brand, which you get a thousand followers.

And he was talking shit to Rich or vice versa who knows how it started and then they started throwing blows inside the Expo and then it turned into this big ol' you know. By the way, if you're trying to spell Mac Truck, it's not the normal spelling. It's actually TRUCCC. Yeah. Trucker, trucker. It's not the normal spelling. It's actually TRUCC. Yeah. Yeah. Trucker. It's a trucker. Yeah. Cause we like to take words that are easy to spell. Well, you know, on Mac is MAC something like this happens and you think that it's, it's, it's, it's laughable, right? Like, oh my god, these guys are ridiculous. I can't believe

they're actually getting into fights at a bodybuilding convention like this. Did somebody have sex with somebody's girlfriend or something? No, that wouldn't, that would warrant an ass whipping, although I still would not do it at a convention with all kinds of people around it, and at my booth where I'm running a business like this. You know what, I certainly wouldn't do it that way.

I always, every time I see grown men, posture with each other, like, yeah, what are you gonna do, man? And they're like, sturdy, because that's kind of what it looked like in the video, like they were talking shit, and then they were kind of staring each other down, and then one of them makes a punch.

It's literally like fucking two primate monkeys. We're gonna stare each other down and establish, and even though it doesn't mean anything into humans Like what's that mean? What are you doing? I understand defending yourself? I understand if someone's stealing something from you or hurting someone else But we're gonna stand here and stare each other down and try and act like like someone did that to me I just turn around like okay, bro Like you're gonna be oh shit. You're staring at me trying to act tough. I think I'm I think I'm leaving

We'll make some money I'm trying to act tough. I think I'm leaving. I think I'm leaving. I'm gonna make some money. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. It's crazy.

I'm gonna be productive. So I am, but here at the sad part is that people fucking, I mean, why do, why do soap operas and shit like that still have crazy rates? So do you think that this was staged? Like it's one of those like, because I feel like a lot of these things, they bring a lot of attention and they see that negative

publicity or whatever, it still gets them a lot of these things, they bring a lot of attention and they see that negative publicity or whatever, it still gets them a lot of press. Well, you know what, like, the only reason why, I felt like you could see kind of see the animosity and stuff, but I tell you what, I mean, the Mac truck guy was real quick to sell some T-shirts off as you just. Yes. Yeah, that's right, you showed me that.

Oh my God, that's hilarious. I'll say this all day long, I don't know. Oh my God, it's hilarious. I'll say this. Brilliant. I'll say this, yes, all day long. I don't know the guy, but that was fucking smart. Like immediately does a YouTube video. And at the end of it, because he explains his whole thing, like what happened. And at the end of it, he's like, by the way, I got these shirts. By the way, I got these shirt. $15.

I was like, hey, man. I mean, if it was staged to sell the shirts, okay. If it was just a fight and then he sold shirts afterwards, I mean, both it was staged to sell the shirts, okay, if it was just a fight and then he sold shirts afterwards, I mean, both, both are kind of smart. You know, saying you got to respect that a lot. Well, I mean, the reason why the, if either one of them have, I mean, for sure Rich Pionna has had a lot of success peddling his supplements and stuff. And I'm not, I don't know enough about Mack Truck, I know how successful he is or is not,

but I mean, there's obvious hustle to these guys. I mean, there's, there's no doubt in that. And that to me, what made me even interested in getting into competing in the industry was, I saw this, I saw guys like that at the top, making all this money and I was like, wow, if these dudes just off a hustle can get all the way to the top in this industry and make a lot of money,

there's so much room for somebody to give good information and actually help people. Just to put your ogres like, slamming into each other. Ugh, my fucking way protein, man. You know what also came out this last week, or just yesterday, was it yesterday? Lane Norton wrote a blog on fucking God Health.

Oh yeah, I saw that. We got tagged a couple times on that. Well, excuse me. Well, look at that. I'm now, you know what sucks is I have to be a member and pay his membership fee in order to read the rest of his blog so I can hear his full opinion on it. Because I'm really interested how he's gonna swing this

considering he just launched his supplement line not too far before that. Dude, you have, you have. You're interested this. If I was him right now, with all the information that's coming out on the microbiome and it's direct influence on pretty much everything in your body including your brain, I would be prepping myself for a massive shift. You know what I mean? Like, he's on this big boat, right?

He's got his supplement line, he's got his business built on, and much of it is built on IIFLAM and on the fact that, you know, he says, artificial sweeteners have no impact on the body. And so now he's probably, this is what I would be doing. I'd be thinking myself like, oh fuck, how do I steer this massive ship in another direction? I've got all this.

How do I angle this for a while? Yeah. Just sell the rest of my inventory. Yeah, because I've got, you know, $50,000 worth of inventory of, you know, stuff that I need to sell before I can change. So what I would do, if I was him, is I would write articles that showed everybody

that I was starting to talk about it. Then I'd start putting shit on sale and blowing it out while building up an inventory of supplements that are naturally flavored and stuff like that. Do you think he's that clever? I do. He's definitely intelligent. I don't know about business wise, but he's a very intelligent guy.

He's also science-based, so I think it's hard to be science-be-you know, kind of that kind of individual and then ignore the science that's coming out. And he also runs with, or he's close to people like, you know, Dr. Dom Diagostino, who you've got to know is in his ear saying, hey man, like. Dom Diagostino, who you've got to know is in his ear saying, hey man, like this is something you should pay attention to type of deal. So, but I love that he wrote an article on it. It's funny because, let's see,

my pump's been on the air for two years. Probably one of our first 20 episodes, we really dove into gut flora. And it's impact on everything from fat loss, muscle building, you know, overall health. nobody was talking about gut health and that regard in our industry at least and now it's great to see other people start to bring it up kind of some of these mainstreamers like didn't our boy didn't our boy mark just post on our private form about that

did he give a little love and shout out about that yeah he said that was one of the reasons why he liked our show was because we were the first ones to really talk about that in the whole muscle building. And he's been tied into that industry almost as long or longer than us. I mean, he's Oh, that industry probably long. His first friends with Joe Donnelly, he's been with him for a long time. And then that was the reason why he kind of jumped ship because there wasn't anybody that was talking about that because the, I mean, the science was there and it was continually to more and more was coming out. I remember when you first introduced us

and the more I dove, the more information was, I was like, God, damn, how is not anybody speaking about this in the industry? So you see now, people like Lane Norton coming out, which to me, that explains to why he never really said anything to us. Because you know there had to been this inner battle. That's why I was always like, man,

there's a part of me that kind of feels bad because you know, Lane's been doing this for a while. When Lane first started doing that, got it was over 10 years ago, when he started to try to make his mark and his big thing that he came out, he was speaking out on all the coaches that were coaching these bodybuilders

just terribly with their diet. And so I really believe that Lane's intentions when he first came into the industry were completely pure and awesome. And I thought he gave great information and he kind of shook up the bodybuilding world. But then once he did that and he gained his notoriety and he had a bunch of followers and listeners, the next thing to make good money is to make the supplements. And I think it's, you know what it is? It's unfortunate because if you work, I feel for them.

I feel for them. I'll tell you why. If you work in the fitness industry and you are, you know, a success minded individual, you're a driven individual, which he obviously is, right? He competes at some of the highest levels, naturally, both in bodybuilding and powerlifting. He's also very educated, which takes some definite commitment, especially during that time he's writing articles and stuff for bodybuilding.com. So he's a busy person.

So here you are, you're driven, you want to grow, you want to build a business, you have two options. Either option one is you get real fucking creative and you come up with a new way to do well and fitness or you go the path that everybody goes, which is supplements, you know what I'm saying? Because by opening up gyms, you're probably not gonna make that much money. Opening up gyms.

You could teach seminars But seminars require you to be there. There's lots of planning. There's lots of you know Supplements are people buy them every month. It's an easier way People are gonna keep you reordering. It's an established way to to make money in this industry if you want to you know build your business So I feel for people like that because like, what do you do? I mean, we had to do, we had to get real, we had to say, okay, we're going to stick to what we know is good and what we, you know, stick to our own expertise and integrity and make exercise programs.

And I'll tell you something, everybody told us we were crazy. Like nobody does that and does well in the fitness industry. But we're like, look, this is what people need and this is what we're good at. And then, you know, we have other plans as well. But so I feel for people like that, but here's a thing, like if you want to stay relevant in the industry, especially now in the age of information,

you better fucking be prepared to change. Yeah. And to progress, because what you may think is the right thing today, new science may come out and show that you were wrong. Don't you find it crazy how bad though people it want to be put in camps like this, the whole then it's why I brought up the rich pion I think it's tribal is tribal and it's easier. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, you don't have to consider all these other effects and all these other directions that you know, you could potentially go in.

And so it's like, it's so much easier and comfortable to kind of wrap around a whole system just around like one sort of methodology. And you know, that's where it becomes sort of like, they get protective over it because it's like, well, this works for me. And of course, like initially, like most of these things, they will work initially.

You will see some kind of change in result, however your body adapts, now what? Yeah, and again, just like what Justin's saying, I mean, tribalism, people get ridiculous over their football team. Yeah, you know what I mean? Like, I'm a Raiders fan, so I'm gonna fight you. People have died.

Yeah, I mean, it's just this fucking leftover primitive human instinct that we had when resources were scarce, when we weren't, when we were starving all the time of dying of fricking the elements all the time. So we had to protect our own and be within our tribe. And if we saw another tribe, well, they probably posed a threat more than they were

benefit to us, right? So we fought them and we had to be with our tribe and our own culture and our own ways of living. And so people, it's just left over primitive instinct. And so people are like, I'm a lame, Norton guy. And he says, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, almost any camp, maybe not all of them, but there's always sometimes a little kernel of good information. You can pick up on them.

And usually steps to progress you in a certain direction, the problem is that people get stuck in that step, and they don't realize that there's a next step after that. Dude, the microbiome represents such a new and breakthrough field of research. I cannot, there's no words to explain just how breakthrough and revolutionary and new and how impactful this new field of research is. They are finding some incredible things. I was just talking about this on the, we just did a live Q&A for just for the forum, which by the way, becoming a member of our forum includes, you know, what we'll get on there live on video and talk to you guys

and answer questions. And we get a little more intimate and we hang out. Yeah, and I was talking about, you know, I was listening to Rhonda Patrick's podcast, great podcast by the way, super, super heavy on information though. So you might find it boring, but if you're one of those people likes information, great podcast, listen to. And she had a researcher that talked about cholesterol

on there and how a lot of what we believe to be true is wrong. wrong for example the very simplistic notion that HDL cholesterol is Good and all LDL is bad and he went in and broke it down and said no LDL actually comes in many forms one form is the high-density small particles Which are the ones that tend to be the ones that cause problems. And then there's the bigger, more buoyant forms of LDL, which are protective and or benign in comparison, they don't have problems, you know, issues with, they don't cause issues with heart disease.

And how if you just look at LDL, it doesn't tell you nearly the whole story. And then he talked about a theory as to why our bodies will produce more LDL at certain moments. And why some people, they'll get just really, really high levels of bad LDL particles and why they're more prone to heart disease than other people. And one of the theories is how these particles attach themselves or are used to promote an inflammatory

response because your body has a pathogen in it. So there's something in your system, in your blood, or in your gut, that your body is neutralizing with these LDL particles. And we know that cholesterol is very, very closely connected to your body's ability to fight infection and protect itself. In fact, older populations with high cholesterol live longer than older populations with really low cholesterol, and one of the reasons is they just don't get infections nearly as much.

They just don't. When you're elderly, one of the main causes of death is infection, and they're finding They just don't. And when you're older, when you're elderly, one of the main causes of death is infection. And they're finding that they don't. So they're thinking, holy cow, this inflammatory response that happens in the arteries, that then oxidizes some of these LDL particles, which attach to the arteries, which then pack up and cause things from stroke to heart disease. It's really a side effect of the fact that there may be a pathogen in your system that we haven't identified that your body's. So it's literally the byproduct of your body helping itself. And if you just don't take care of it over time, that side effect is you get heart disease

and stuff. And this is a theory, but there's some science that's kind of supporting it yet. It's not it's not established yet. But my point with all of that is this field of research when it comes to the microbiome is so so incredibly breakthrough and impactful on us and ever evolving too. I mean, it's not. Dude, so much like. What about what about what you know what you found recently too in the last like year two with cholesterol and strength and the more that's starting. I mean, that's something that we did.

We talked about what God, it was almost a year ago. It was over a year ago when we first put that out. Yeah, there's times that you revisited that. There's several studies identifying that increasing your dietary cholesterol intake, which now, by the way, the FDA is about to basically tell everybody that dietary cholesterol is no longer a nutrient of concern. In other words, you don't need to worry about eating cholesterol because it doesn't really have an impact on health in a negative way.

It is butter. Yeah, so go ahead and eat it, you know, if you're diet's healthy and everything, unless you're... It would just still mind blowing for a lot of people. Yeah. They'll talk about it and like, and unless you're... It would just still mind blowing for a lot of people. Yeah. They'll talk about it, and like, there's just so many people that still... That's why I wanted him to revisit it.

Yeah, they don't... They can't even, like, fathom that, especially when they're eating, like, butter, and they just think that that's gonna lead to some kind of, like, heart attack, or, you know, your clogged arteries. Well, even... No, they're, even saturated fat.

They're doing these huge studies and showing, oh shit, shit like saturated fat and take It's really not connected to a lot of these problems. It will raise cholesterol But not not in a bad way and then and then at the end of the day It's not increasing heart disease Same thing with eating cholesterol. There is I want us to be clear. There is a small percentage of the population that may have a Genetic variant's always exceptions. Yeah, and you'll produce like ungodly amounts of cholesterol.

In those cases, then they have to, you know, they'll prescribe medications. That's very rare. It's rare, it's not common. But yeah, eating cholesterol, what they found is that when they fed people, large amounts of dietary cholesterol, like 800 milligrams or a thousand milligrams, which is like five times more than what the FDA used to recommend, that their strength gains were much higher. And just in the, they were working out and their strength gains were like significantly higher. I've experimented with this myself. And I've gone through like a week or two of very high cholesterol intakes.

So I'll eat like, you know, five, six, eight yolks a day. And I'll eat some chicken livers. And I've gotten it as high as 1500 to 2000 milligrams. And I do get a strength boost for sure. The thing is that the strength boost doesn't continue. So I'll get the strength boost. Yeah. And then it kind of stays there while I eat that high cholesterol.

So seems to be some type of adaptation. I've noticed for myself now, in the studies they show just overall better strength gains from people eating more cholesterol. So this is why I like to underlative, because I did the same thing after you said that I went and kinda, and what I did was I took instead of like being hung up on exactly

how many milligrams I was going to go to, because I think you gave me a recommendation like oh, eat this much. I'm like well, let me go back and look at my fat. What your normal is? Yeah, let's see what my normal is, and then I doubled it. I'm like, okay, I'm going to double it for a few days,

and by about the third day was when I really noticed like a strength increase for sure in my workout. So, but then just like you, when I kept staying up there at those levels, I didn't see like, it wasn't like this, I wasn't progressing every single day. It was just like, I noticed this, oh wow, it was like a surge.

It was like the first time that you had extra caffeine before I work out, I felt like that. It felt like it amped up my workout more than I had felt in the previous two weeks. Yeah, I think it may have to do with the CNS. More than anything. Oh really? I think so because in these studies, Not hormonal, huh? Well, hormones have an effect with the CNS more than anything. Oh really? I think so because in these studies,

not hormonal, huh? Well, hormones have an effect on your CNS. I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah. You can give someone testosterone and they'll get strong way before they start to gain size. So there's definitely a CNS effect going on with hormones, but I don't know if that's from the cholesterol. That's such a good point right there

that I've never really even thought about. That when you do take testosterone that there is this instant, I mean, you could take a... The Androgen receptors are definitely intricately tied to... Before you even build muscle. That's fascinating.

I don't know why I never even thought about that. Because as soon as you take testosterone, it's within like two or three days, all sudden all your weights are increasing. But you didn't build a muscle. Yeah, exactly. You're no difference in size. You couldn't have built that much muscle.

The other sectors has got you more connected. You know, that's a good question. I think I'll go in and research exactly why that is. But I know for a fact that hormones do have an effect on your CNS. Well, think about it this way, like higher testosterone will make you feel more aggressive. You know what I mean?

That's a function of your CNS, right? To get you in that kind of aggressive, like, you know, state. So that's definitely one of those effects. I know athletes who will take testosterone suspension, which is just super fast acting form a testosterone, and they'll take it like four or five hours before an event, and they'll go in there with like a big boost of performance, and definitely wasn't because they built more muscle

in five hours, so. But I think that may be why the cholesterol is making people stronger. But nonetheless, again, you think you know everything, and you really fucking, you really fucking don't, so just kind of stay open, man, you think you know everything and you're really fucking, you're really fucking dumb. So just kind of stay open, man, cause the human body is far more complex than we ever imagined.

And the microbiome represents a whole new field of research. And we know a lot about it and we know nothing about it at the same time. I know, like they have no idea what's a good one, what's what are good, but you know, profile would a bad profile. They don't know what a a good one, what's what are good, but you know, profile, what are bad profile. They don't know what a, you know, person's microbiome fingerprint looks like.

They don't know how to make bacteria stick in your gut. You know, that's why you have to keep taking probiotics. Just all kinds of questions that I think will be answered. You know what, you just, you just reminded me of something that I've been meaning to bring up on the show because you're talking about how important is the state open and that, you know, a lot of these guys have cornered themselves

into one way of thinking because they've doubled down on their mentality or what they were preaching 10 years ago and the science evolved. I always like to share whenever our paradigm has been shattered or there was something that maybe we had said on the show that I've kind of changed my views on it and something that I talked shit about about two years ago on this show, we haven't, so a lot of you may have never even heard this.

But, you know, we, when we first started one of the questions, one of the first questions we got asked, we were talking about the elevation mass and all these different tools. And one of them was people that walk around in the, the vibrant, what are they, vibrant mushrooms? Yeah, the vibrams, the five finger shoes or whatever. And I was kind of making fun of that, right? Because I just think it's over the top ridiculous, but after spinning all the time that we have spent

with Brink and seeing how dysfunctional our fucking feet are and how messed up we are, because we are not connected to the ground and our shoes are just major crutches for our feet and after seeing the improvement just from adding the barefoot walking, you know, 20 minutes a day and I've been training a lot barefoot. God, it's made a huge difference in all the rest

of my in balances that we're stemming from the feet. So. I remember you made fun of me because I owned a pair. Yeah. When we first recorded. Yeah, but I'm pretty sure if we go back on this that episode, we all kind of kind of... That's the last dork you aided to do it.

No, we did. We did. Yeah, I feel like as a group, as a group, we all kind of chimed it on that and... But I did have a pair. Yeah. I had the Minimists, but not the Toe. You know what, if you own your own gym

or you work on your garage, I mean, of course, be safe, but workout barefoot is like the best fucking thing to do, man. Well, I want to add on to that, though, because I remember this moment, too, with going through that process of like my toes and like evaluating with brinkel function. Yeah, like just I brought up to him. I'm like, well, so I have these hammer toes and dad's hammer toes. And I'm like, I'm basically destined to get them broken. Like my dad actually had each one of his toes like broken because yeah, because it got so bad in North Riddick

where he was just like basically walking on top of his toes. And so like they broke them to straighten them out. And I'm just like, fuck, is this really gonna be my destiny? You know, and he's just like, you know, you can work on this. I'm just like, what? You can work on this.

You can work on that flexion extension of the toe. You can pattern a certain way every day to challenge them and get them connected to where you can actually correct this problem. And that was just so mind blowing to me. It was so simple, but it's such like a thought that we put no emphasis on our toes. We put no emphasis on the way that our feet

are contacting the ground and how we're the pressure and forces dispersed. Which is ironic with when you think about how many muscles and bones are in the foot in comparison anywhere. It would be like it's what is intricate. Dude, it's like it would be like ignoring your hands. Yeah.

Because as trainers, let me explain to you as listeners just how much education we receive on the foot. Zero. Yeah. Nothing. Never. I've never seen anything geared towards trainers that teaches you Really about assessing the foot and its function in the body

probably in which is which is now that I know is very sad because I'll tell you what of all of your entire body If you were to take your entire body and measure dysfunction for the average person the average person in the modern world The area where they would exhibit the worst function and the most dysfunction would be the foot. 100%. There is nothing on your body that is more supported by modern apparatuses since the fucking day you can walk like your feet, literally like your feet. Nothing comes close to how fucked up, you know, in terms of your body, like your low back, your posture, your shoulders, all that stuff, it starts to get messed up as you get older.

Kids, their feet immediately, you know, I mean, pretty early on are pretty messed up because we're always in shoes. And it's funny because now that we are starting to educate ourselves on it, I look at my feet and I look at other people's feet and I'm like, toes aren't supposed to look like that. Like your feet aren't supposed to move that way.

You've literally learned to move and walk in shoes. And if you wear heels, oh my God, now throw the ankle in there. And it's just your body has formed around. And me, we're just getting in souls to support dysfunction. To crutch it. Oh, God. Even worse. Now, that being said, when you go to walking barefoot

and trying to work on your feet, take your time. You can't just jump into it. No, because you'll hurt yourself. Well, and it caused problems. And I think that's where I don't want to, I want to, I like to come out and admit when there's something that I think we are wrong or that I said that I want to retract a little bit.

So I am. But then at the same time too, I don't want to say this and then everybody go run out and buy these five finger shoes and then they just walk around and all day long. I think it's going to solve the problem. Of course, I think that learning what's going on in your feet and understanding how to correct that and then walking around barefoot or walking around in these five finger shoes could help that if you're doing it with intent. Does that make sense? Like, it's not just putting the shoes on,

doesn't like magically fix your dysfunction in your- No, because you're gonna move with the same- With the same- Yeah, you've already created these parts. It's like doing squats, but your hips aren't firing. So I'm like, well, I'm gonna do a bunch of squats, but you never corrected your hips. Exactly.

So I just wanna make that clear that it's not like and the shoes don't fix that. You know, that's just being grounded, being more connected, it's getting you, it's getting rid of your crutch. Basically your shoes are a crutch for your feet and getting down to that, you're getting rid of the crutch, but you're still not addressing the root cause. So you still need to learn to get it either one assess yourself or get a professional like a brink to assess your feet and be able to break down what exactly you're doing. And then while you're walking around in these types of shoes or you're walking barefoot, you're

kind of addressing that. Like, I mean, it sounds so silly, but I remember when I first, so I had the right ankle was pronating a lot more than anything else That was going on in my ankle and feet. So that was the first big So I try and look at like the the big things first Addressed them once it gets better than I get to even serious So now I'm like down to my toes. I was focused on the ankles first Getting rid of that dysfunction. And so the first thing was the pronating in my right ankle and Once I became aware of it, then I even realized, go, you know, I drink a lot of water. So I probably literally pee like 10 times a day. And even when I'm

standing at the toilet and I'm peeing, I looked down, I would look down at my feet and that right ankle would just would fall back into the pronation. And I thought, wow, so I've just gotten the habit now. So 10 times a day when I pee, I'm exaggerating the opposite. So I'm externally rotating and I'm just I'm sitting on the edges of maybe what you do to regress is just start to sit down when you pee. Yeah, that would be a bigger crutch. It's like a girl. You know, you start rotating just pee on your feet or hold yourself. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I just want to make, I just want people to understand

that this is kind of the same way that we apply strength training is very similar to my mentality when I go to correct something is, I'm going to, and somebody asked just today on the private forum they asked on the, asked how I got down in the baby squatting, squatting position when there are hips and they're low back or bothering them.

And it was like, well, I couldn't get there. I couldn't address my ankle, my feet that much, until I could really address the hips. At least if I'm going to do this in a squatting position. So if you're trying to get down in that position, you're going to fix the big issues first before you start breaking down the little one. So making sure I worked on that ankle, and then now I'm breaking down to the toes and I'm working there. So, you know, there's little things that you can do

like that once you're aware of it, and then start addressing it just by looking down. All I have to do is look down at my feet. I can see that it's pronating now, then I roll it on the opposite direction while I'm doing it. That's 10 times a day I'm getting that. Meanwhile while you're holding your coffee with your feet.

I think you have to take a picture of that. That's progressing. That's ten times a day. I'm getting that. Meanwhile while you're holding your coffee with your feet. I think you'd take a picture of that. That's progressing. That's excellent. Oh, shit. Huh? There she is. Look at her hammer toe. God, she's beautiful. What? What?

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You know what's funny about this question? If I go back to the 70s, they probably had better habits. Yeah, they had better habits than we have now. If I look at their diets and their, because their diets were basically natural foods, all natural foods, lots of fats and... Eat a ton of it.

Yeah, lots of fats and vegetables and, you know, they eat lots of, they protein, they definitely did, but they didn't go crazy with it, but they did eat like, you know, like whole milk and butter and egg yolks and... They weren't eating powdered protein. No, they... They went, they went to powder protein. That's not what protein hit the market? Well, it did hit the market before. It was like in the 60s and 70s. Okay. I really started it. But they didn't really use it because I don't I don't remember ever seeing Arnold ever talk about protein. He sold them some eaten. He sold them later on in his career.

No, early on. I don't remember ever seeing him. In the 70s, weeder had weight gain and different supplements that started come out. I would sell, I don't think they were huge. I think they tasted like shit and they were horrible. But their diets were better than the bodybuilders now. Their workouts. Their training programs were better. They're better.

So Arnold, he wrote about this in his encyclopedia bodybuilding, the original one. I don't know if the newer revised version has it, but he talks about working out squatting and doing calf raises and stuff barefoot. And you can see old videos of them working out at golds. And Arnold would be working out barefoot. There's some workouts where him and Dave Draper

would work out, you know, the. Dave Draper's awesome. Yeah, the blonde bomber. And they would work out barefoot. Dave Draper's from Santa Cruz. That, the, the, uh, Dave Draper's awesome. Yeah, the blonde bomber. And they would work out barefoot. Dave Draper's from Santa Cruz. That's why we do it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Worked out his gym met him with a bunch of times.

They also, now they did high volume workouts. They would do a split routine, high volume. So 20 sets per body part, but they did lots of, uh, frequency. So Arnold's workout. Now keep in mind, Arnold is a, uh is a freak of nature when it comes to recovery. Well, he's there's bodybuilders now as a power lifter. He did power lifting and weightlifting, yeah, in his youth in Austria. But Arnold is a freak when it comes to recovery, even compared to current bodybuilders because his routine was 20 plus sets per body part,

three days a week he would hit every body part and he did a split routine. So, come in the morning, he'd work out for an hour and a half, then he'd come in again at night and work out for an hour and a half and he basically did this six days a week hitting each body part three days a week. He did no cardio, didn't need it

because fuck, you're working out so much with so much volume. But here's the thing about Arnold and those guys in the 70s is they definitely worked intensely, but they didn't go to failure that often. I know they talk about it, but when you watch some of the workouts in their videos, you can see that they're stopping about too rep short, probably because they couldn't, right?

They were doing so much volume. So the workouts were interesting. Lots of free weights. The machines consisted of cables. So they would use cables, but that's pretty much it. There weren't a ton of... I mean, what's the electro as equipment? I think what people don't realize,

like if we were to compare that era to now, like where we've gotten better in bodybuilding, if we're just talking about bodybuilding, is the drug usage is gonna hold another level. They're just, yeah, they're just more, I mean, if they're come a cause, if I would love to have seen what Arnold would look like, if he was on the same amount of gear as Phil Heath

or Kai Green run. Like, I mean, yeah, because back then they used steroids, all the use, So testosterone and derivatives, and they didn't use insulin, they didn't use growth hormone, they didn't use peptides, and then they use all those crazy things.

And the doses don't even come true. We're nowhere near, yeah, they were, I mean, the dosage in comparison to, to now is, and they, and they cycle them back then, you can still see, if you go online, you can look up old pictures of Arnold, but when he wasn't competing. So yeah, you can see him when he's at the beach

and he's hanging out, like, and he looks awesome still, but he doesn't know. He's like 20 pounds lighter because they cycled him. Yeah. They would go on them for a competition, and they'd go off of them. All of them did that, and none of them stayed on them year round, which meant none of them had to really use

all these exiliareries, you know, estrogen blockers and, you know, aromatase inhibitors and all these up, which didn't even exist. I don't even think Novodex existed when they were taking all these stereotypes. Yeah, you know, it is such a, I knew this question would create a little bit of debate discussion because I do find it really funny that I think from our point of view, I think there's a lot that the guys now could learn from the old guys back then that they were doing that was at least much better for you for overall health, right? Like as far as you talk about the barefoot, you talk about eating the whole foods, they weren't shoving all their cycles, were even a lot less

stressful on the body. They dedicated time to getting sun. So they didn't even tan in the beds, in the tanning beds, they would actually go to the beach after their first workout. Get that real vitamin D. And they go lay out in the sun. So they did a lot of a lot of the right stuff.

Even the workouts, you know what's funny? So there's a lot of stuff we've learned about mobility and form and stuff that I would love to teach the guys of the golden era. But the guys today need to know more, need to know more of that than they did back then because back then, you saw them doing cross training more. Like they would go, like Frank Zayn would run, they did, they took ballet classes to learn how to pose better. They did all these different things. The ranges of motion in their form was way fucking better. Arnold and those guys, really,

I mean, there were definitely the bodybuilders back then that trained crazy with shorter ranges of motion. Like, Bertol Fox, the guy worked out like a maniac, ended up actually becoming a maniac and killing his girlfriend, going to jail. That's another story. Yeah. But Arnold and those guys really emphasize long ranges of motion,

getting the stretch. They weren't doing these short, little pumping type movements. So it's almost like they knew mobility better too. You know what I mean? Although I would love to go back and teach them, you know, my own facial techniques and mobility techniques and, you know, maybe they would have been open to it if they're doing ballet and yeah Right, exactly if you I mean at that point and that's what was so neat about that that era like they were just real pioneers man

They were out Experimenting with all these things and and all these natural things and they're hanging out in the sunlight like that They were going to take in ballet classes taking movements through full range of motion, like working out barefoot. A lot of this stuff, like the science is really evolved now, but I mean, they were really a lot of the pioneers a lot of this stuff. So I feel like you look at the generation now, and you know, if you were to call the generation now

pioneers in anything, it would be pioneers in the pharmaceutical area. It's been consistent that way, because even the 80s changed, and the steroids used became more, you know, technical, and then the 90s came and then it was the mega dope. The 90s brought the mega dose era. That's when you had the mass monsters during the eighth came out and everybody's like,

what the fuck is this guy taking? I call man like to guys and then Coleman came out and you know, the 2000s or, you know, I think 99 he won the Olympia's first one and then it was just insane, but I'll tell you something right now. Here's something that's funny. Bodybuilders from the 70s today look better and healthier than the bodybuilders from the 90s today. Because if I see a lot of bodybuilders who existed and compete in the 90s today, if they're still alive,

a lot of them are in horrible shape. You look at some of the guys from the 70s, like Frank Zayn, Surgeon, and Bre, you see them today, and they're all in their 60s, and some of them in their 70s. Oh, who's a guy that was fucking amazing? Who's a guy that I showed you their day too, that I didn't know who that was,

I asked you, so I didn't oppose them. Oh, Francis Benifato, he was at 80s. Oh, he's a fucking builder. But a lot of them look better now than the guys who competed in the 90s, man. So I don't know what these guys are gonna look like today, 15 years from now. They're gonna be around.

It'll be interesting. It'll be hooked up to machines. Backfisions. Backfisions. Top three habits you can utilize to optimize your efficiency and daily productivity. Mm. So meditation.

Yeah, wow. Exactly what I was gonna say. Meditation. Isn't that funny? Well, it's because we're all at right now. I mean, I think currently. Well, I mean, it's funny because it's like it's taking time to do nothing. Yeah, right.

Yeah, I was saying. Yeah, yeah. Well, you know, your girl said something to you. I thought it was a great analogy for people to correlate those two together, right? So if you're looking for to optimize efficiency and daily productivity, shout out to Jessica. I mean, as she was telling this to Sal,

that what it was like is your brain is making space for things. Right? And when you think about that, like that's so true. Sometimes we're just, we're over-inundating ourselves with information and visual things and stuff we gotta do and just tons of stress and added stuff in our plate and our brain to absorb that, you know, I could see how it all gets cluttered

or you forget things every once in a while, but allowing yourself to meditate really kind of allows yourself to put those things in their place. Yeah, and I think eliminating things is a really tough thing to do in this day and age because of that simple fact that we're getting all this stimulus from so many different sources all at once and you know everybody can access you at any point whether it's email text or phone call to where your body is in this heightened state of constantly being on, and at any moment, it could have an interruption in your own thought process. So just to be able to shut down and eliminate these things from infiltrating their way into that process where you need to actually have self-reflection, you need to think about

things harder, and you need to think about them longer in order to improve. And so it's such a good point because it's one of the hardest practices right now in this day and age. So this question for me is really hits me in a personal level because I've had to obviously, are listeners know I've gone through or been going through about to complete a year-long process of divorce and I've got two children. And that probably the most stressful thing I've ever gone through and it really messed with my ability to be productive because and now I can kind of identify, you know, because I tried to be the observer during the process and really observe what was going on. And one thing that I noticed was,

and I see this as this tends to be true with a lot of people, especially clients I've worked with, is that when you're in that state of kind of stress or anxiety, you can't do anything. You're almost frozen in place. And a couple of things that really have made a big impact on my ability to be productive and efficient, we talked about meditation.

That was huge, literally taking the time aside to do nothing and just be present. And that's really what meditation is is trying to be present. Allowed me, opened up the space in my mind to remember things, because I was so forgetful. I was so like, I couldn't remember shit, and I was pissing me off.

I thought something was wrong with me, but it's because my mind was so fried from just being stressed out and anxious. So taking that time aside, really opened up space in my mind to remember things and to do things. Number two, this really helps too, is to remind me that every journey is taken

one step at a time. So when you're looking at a goal of yours or work or whatever, it could be anything, like, oh my God, I gotta clean the garage. Well, fuck, if I look at the garage and look at the fucking mess that's in there, it's gonna seem so daunting and just so crazy that it will, I'll put it off, I'll avoid it,

I'll avoid the pain of doing it, or it'll impact the rest of my productivity for less a day. But if I remind myself that, look, this happens one step at a time and I just go in there and handle one step at a time Before you know it it's it's done and while you're doing it you're focusing on the or you're really only paying attention to small pieces of it You know I'm saying So this is true for nutrition for exercise from pretty much anything

I want to lose 30 pounds. Well, let's focus on some of the small steps that help me get there and that helps with productivity. Yeah, and even just taking that aspect alone, like I've this year, I've already started to try and do this, and we're trying to do this with our business because it just goes off in so many different directions and just harnessing the ability to write down a list and keep to very few items, but things that you know you can you can scratch off the list. Yes, and it feels so good to do. It's so yeah, you get so much satisfaction out of that and then it motivates you the next day to just just keep at it and keep and you get that same feeling because you know that you're being productive and things are actually happening

versus just grinding it all the way out and having all these moments where you're not productive because you're just kind of taking things as they come actually. You're just running around in circles. It's just about planning. It's really tough for people that have a lot of ideas and you know, like our brains are running a mile,

a minute and sprinting. So then, you know, taking combination with the meditation part of it and then start focusing on, you know, the priorities. And then you can really start to kind of formulate a really good checklist for yourself on a daily. So now here's a third thing that I started doing that I wanna talk about real quick

because I have seen now. I've now been doing this for about two weeks and now I just got into a place where my kids have their own rooms and so now my kids will be with me more often, which by the way, fuck man, I feel like my life is like, as I complete now, it's back, you know what I mean? So it's fucking awesome.

But it's just routine that I started because of some of the information we've learned about sleep and the importance of how light affects your sleep and how you want to eliminate electronic light and do this and that. So this new place that I'm living in has every light is set on a dimmer, which is cool. So what I do now is I know I'm gonna go to bed,

let's say if I set my time to go to bed at 10, right? At 8 p.m., I dim the lights. So now it's dark, it's nice and kind of dark in my house. And then by 9 p.m., I turn the lights off and I light candles. Even if we're up and we're eating or reading or conversing or doing things, it's little by little I'm bringing my system down,

then I go to bed at 10, I go right to sleep and I wake up, I have more time in the mornings that I wake up earlier and I feel fantastic. Well, so my kids now are with me, right? So we started doing this with the kids. And anybody who knows kids knows, it can be a massive pain in the ass to put them to bed, especially because now they're in a new place,

right there in my house and oh wow, are you noticing a difference already? Dude night so I so for sure I'm like my kids are gonna have a tough time especially my daughter she's young and she was gonna be scared sleeping in her new room by herself you know and you know I thought she'd be scared and so what I did is I started doing that right she goes about at eight thirty so by seven I'm dimming the lights like it's dim in the lights. Like, it's dim in the house. Wow. What a great little subtle tip that for parents that have young ones, that they

can start incorporating now to help train them to settle themselves. And you just, you just do your normal routine and like, we're not changing our routine. We're just making it dark in there. And they comment to the kids are like, it's real dark in here. I'm like, yeah, but it's fun, right? And they kind of liked it. Then 30 minutes before bed, I took, I just lit candles and my kids fucking loved it. It's fun, you know, they're like, oh my God, this is so cool.

And of course, if they want to go up the stairs, go to the room, you know, you turn on the lights and you know, real dark or whatever, let them go up. And I'm even thinking about getting little candle holders that we can walk around with. Just because the kids will have fun. But bro, dude, I put them to bed, right? She goes bed at 8.30 and she's like,

oh, I'm a little scared and I kind of laid with her for 10 minutes, went right to fucking sleep, didn't wake up at all. It makes sense. It does make sense. Both my kids got up early on the right. I've been wrestling with my boys. Go to bed. Oh, my God.

No, it settles them down. It was so fucking awesome. That's actually, I'm really. And then I give them a Zanax and I was putting them back. You know, I can't I actually want to hear you make sure you follow up with us on the show because that's really, really fascinating to me because I think every kid remembers growing up and being in your bedroom with your lights on and playing with toys and bitters and then mom coming in and being like, okay, lights out. It's bedtime. And then it's a hard transition. It is a very hard transition. Two minutes ago, I'm coming in and be like, okay, lights out. It's bedtime. And then you're a hard transition. It is a very hard transition.

Two minutes ago, I'm playing with my trucks and hot wheels, with the lights on, with, you know, whatever. And then all of a sudden, you're gonna tell me, shut the lights off and I have to fall asleep. Like, that transition that's not there. But now, maybe if I'm in there and the, the can, it's candle, I'm interested to see how that works. Dude, it worked like a charm yesterday.

And it works on me and it works on Jessica. Like, we, we noticed we go to bed and it it's 10 and normally I'd go to bed and be like wired okay I gotta watch some more TV I gotta went to bed man over just like oh you just feel so and you wake up early and you feel great it's I guess I mean you're following kind of the natural you know light pattern. No it makes so much sense you know and I know this is so here's something that I'm kind of going through right now too I know we like to share the stuff that has been kind of eye opening for each of us. So when I, when I first did the whole fat to fit thing, I remember part of like how I justified

not going to gym or not working out was because I was just business grind, 100% business grind. I was working, working, working like crazy and just I definitely felt like one of my clients you know and I remember reflect and that was really what motivated. was working, working, working like crazy. And just I definitely felt like one of my clients, you know, and I remember, and that was really what motivated. I remember looking to myself one day and waking up, go, what the fuck happened?

And then going like, oh my God, I sound just like one of my clients that, oh, I just don't have the time, you know, I don't have the time to do that. And when you really think about it, you believe that. You really believe that because you're already having days where you're not accomplishing everything and you didn't even work out. So it's really easy to believe that when

you say that. Now what I remember when I went and I started back on my kick was that holy shit like I was getting so much more done now that I was dedicating this hour inside the gym and that became very fascinating to me that wow and I became more and more and more productive and more and more things were getting done because I was starting to slot that out and prioritize myself first in my overall health, and then it started to reflect my efficiency throughout the day at work. And I always told my point.

And I always told myself that, you know, when those moments come again, because one day this will come again, that I got a remindment, and I'm going through that right now. So we just, men, my pump is, I mean, it couldn't be happier with how much is exploded, and there's so much going on with our play. And I have a handful of people that I still help, and I've been having a really hard time

getting them in to help them out, because I've just so overwhelmed with stuff we're traveling and guests, and yada yada yada, right? And so my workouts have been really sporadic. And I was just kind of thinking of reflecting on this when I was meditating, okay? And I'm going like, you know what?

Like every time that I make sure that I make time for myself, I always have a productive day. Like the day is no matter how crazy and busy it is, and it doesn't always, and what I have to remind myself is that it doesn't always have to be this intense lifting. Like, that could just mean for that hour, all I'm doing is mobility and working on my imbalances and correcting things that are going on. It feels so good to do, I feel so charged up after I do that, I feel so accomplished.

And it sets the tone for the rest of the day. So I can't stress that enough that, man, you wanna optimize your daily productivity and your efficiency, make time for yourself. And this is why I'm also a big fan of seven days a week. Not three, three is all you need to be lifting weights and that's how our programs are designed for foundational days, but make an hour of time for yourself seven days a week.

And in that hour, maybe it's not even lifting weights at all. Maybe it's completely recuperative. Maybe it's all only working on your balances Maybe it's just priming and for the massage. Yes or massage or whatever But make that time for yourself Don't lose that because you got busy or you fell off for a little bit keep that slot it for yourself Don't let that because you're because so much is on your plate right now, you can't imagine fitting an hour, make that hour for yourself, and then pay attention to your efficiency.

Rest strong, Liz. With most groups of people, every person has a label, like the wise guy, funny guy, quiet guy, et cetera. In your honest opinion, what do you consider your labels are and why? Oh, God.

Yeah, why is that, eh? Yeah. Who picked that question at home? Yeah, God. Yeah, why is that? Yeah. Who picked that question, Adam? Yeah, is it? I picked all of these questions. Oh yeah, I picked label ourselves. Yeah, it's what will be like, you know, and then... You know, I get, and I don't like the fact that I'm labeled as like, you know, the handsome

one. Or like, you know, the cool one. Best dad hair. Yeah, like, you know what I mean? Like, that's not... All the inboxes I get, the cool world. Best dad hair. Yeah, like, you know what I mean? Like, that's not, all the inboxes I get when people say that. That's not true. Yeah, smelly one.

Yeah, well, you guys call me a nerd all the time. So I guess I'm the nerd. No, I don't think, you know, maybe it's easier for each of us to say what the other guy is labeled as, I don't know, I hate labels. I don't think any of us like labels, but if we are being honest with ourselves, and I get to be the narcissistic guy,

which I truly do not like. I don't like it because I try and talk about it. It's so hard to say that too, because it's hard to say, no, I'll tell you what, it's hard to say, I don't like'll tell you what, it's hard to say, I don't like being labeled a narcissist. So let me talk about myself until you are. It's like you're fucked, right?

What do you say? It is, it's like, how do I defend myself? Can you talk your way out of it? So let me tell you my story. So I've done this. Let me justify how I'm narcissistic. Yeah, you know, if you never listened to the episode that we had with, what was your girl's name the doctor?

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, cally doctor cally. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I for her last name is not a kidding pronounce it was calling Yeah, I love opening. She's a big listener by the way, so shout out to cally. Yeah, you know, she trains with Jessica now Oh, I didn't know that yeah Jessica trains. Oh, you didn't tell us that. Yeah, I knew they would love each other I feel like we should do a follow-up to her. No She was awesome. She was really, I really enjoyed her episode. And I was. We took a whole personality test with her. Yeah, and of course it felt good because she, I was the first of her.

She justified my narcissism. So I thought that was great. Well, you know, what it was enlightening because she talked about the difference, right? Oh, it was the good type. Yeah, and I think there is, I think that's the, God, that's the fine line. Like, how do you, how do you do that?

How do you, how are you extremely confident, yet humble at the same time? I think that's the one of the hardest fine lines. Well, you have to have a higher than average because narcissism can be bad or it can be good. You have to have a higher than average sense of self-confidence and narcissism in order to lead people.

Because you literally have to think to yourself that you can lead these people better than someone else and that you're confident in your ability to do so. And those of you listening who are leaders know what I'm talking about. And those of you who are listening who are not leaders, which are most of you, know what I'm talking about. And those of you who are listening who are not leaders, which are most of you Know what I'm talking about too because for the most of you If you were to if you were chosen to lead something And you're not a leader it makes you really uncomfortable like oh fuck. What am I gonna do? Lead these people the wrong way or whatever which is fine. There's nothing wrong with that

But that's one of the things you talked about how narcissism gets a bad rap and that there is a A healthy level of it and then in order to be a leader of any sort, you need to have a stronger bit of it in order to feel confident enough to do what you're doing. Yeah, so I guess if I, that would be mine. I would say that I- Are the narcissists? Yeah, I've been labeled as the narcissist guy.

I don't think so. Really? No. You don't think so? No, I don't think you get labeled as a narcissist. I think you're obviously the bodybuilder of the group. I don't like that one. And I don't mean it in the sense of the information

that you present, just because you competed. Yeah. That's all I mean, it's just the experience. I'm not really the athletic authority here or anything, but that's just one of those things that kind of sticks. And quiet, I don't know, I guess I'm the quiet guy, even though I'm not really that quiet. It's just that, like, I actually listen to people. I guess that's a flaw.

Well, you're on a show with, well, you know, like, two big mouths. Yeah, right. You know, you are, you are labeled as a quiet guy, but you know what's neat? Katrina asked me about this too. She's like, you know, she asked about the experience this weekend with all of us and now Brink involved in the circle. And she goes, you know, what did you guys like always just like when you put it in the guy, you guys like always agree on everything?

I'm like, Oh God, no. Oh God. I said, I said, there's sometimes where there's it gets, it's like yelling, but it's not yelling at each other. I said, it's, yeah, you notice that too. We all kind of like had our moments of where, yes, just like, oh, this is my point. So what, what we were saying, I was saying, but the mutual respect, yeah, well, let me explain the story that I shared with her, what that happened. I said that, okay, well, you know, this can turn into this, where Sal and I are kind of, you know, yelling at each other back and forth, and it's not like we're yelling at each other, we're yelling about our point because we're passionate about it.

And a lot of times like Doug and Justin, because they're labeled as the quiet guy, they'll just kind of sit back and they're just kind of evaluating what both of us are saying back and forth. And then typically one or both of them will side with either Sal or I, and then we all kind of agree on that's the direction that go.

But every once in a while, Sal, I mean, Doug or Justin, we'll say, they'll speak up loudly. And what Sal and I always do and I caught it multiple times this weekend Is no matter how heated and loud we're going back and forth with each other the moment one of them to speak up that loud We both shut up because they don't because they don't do that often so we know that if they if they're interjecting like that That I know they have something that they really want to say that's important, and I value that because they don't do that a lot. They spend most of the time listening and evaluating

and then they kind of chime in after sound and I have been going back and forth, but every once in a while they have a very strong opinion about something and they'll interrupt us while we're in the middle of that, but it doesn't turn into this like yelling over each other. Everybody keeps, ugh, then nothing gets done. No, automatically they should fighting. Fighting happens when your ego is

too undeveloped and sensitive to accept that someone else may have a differing opinion than you. And that someone else may actually be right and you may be wrong. That's fighting. We don't fight. We yell. We get, you know, passionate. We believe in our positions, but we're also extremely open for ourselves to be wrong. In fact, I can speak for myself, and I know you guys agree, because you guys have said the same thing. I don't care what the right answer is.

I just want to get the right answer. I don't care if it's my answer. I just want the right answer to come out. And when we get to that, it's like, it doesn't matter. I don't care who came up with it, who was wrong, who was right. At the end of the day, we're looking for the right answer. And that's what makes it, that's what's good about having a team that works well together.

Otherwise, you get people who just, they don't care who's right or wrong. They just want to be right. They want to be the one to come up with something or whatever and get the credit I mean and you get all these egos clashing and then shit, you know shit goes wrong I would definitely say just in more than the quiet guy because when we first started the show You were more of the quiet guy. I think you're the funny guy I don't know and the guy the girls like the most obviously He's constantly getting compliments on that kind of stuff.

But yeah, I'd say you're the funny guy. You're probably the one that brings a lot of the humor. Oh, wait, there's, yeah, you're probably the only way I can get in the conversation half the time. So those are probably the two. I'm probably quite, quite a funny guy for him. You're probably nerdy and something else. Because I don't like to think, I think nerdy we say, but I think you're definitely considered

the smart guy. You're the guy with the ability to rattle off studies. You remember those very, very detailed and I love that about you and I think it's a huge strength. Yeah. I think if there's anybody that's ever... I know we lean hard on some of those facts, because we've heard it all the time, but then it's like, oh my God, I can't get it. So it's nice that you can just pull it up like that. No, it's awesome.

And if there's anybody that I notice that doesn't like that or is offended by it, a lot of times that's just their own insecurities because you speak in authority, like you the way you talk and you speak passionately about things. So sometimes that rub someone the wrong way and they think that, oh, Sal thinks he's a no at all.

Like, no, I don't think he's a no at all at all. I think that he actually remembers fucking shit really, really well. I've been called and know it all since I was a kid. Yeah, it's funny. And it's funny because I like people's input. You know what I'm saying? I like that.

I like debate. Should I do it on social media? And that's what I mean. There's never been a time where, and I know how I can be, for sure, when I'm still strong about my own opinion, I can be really, really rough to work with. And if Sal was to know it all and had to be right all the time, man, tell it, we would never work. You guys would have fought a long time ago man, tell it, we would never work.

You guys would have fought a long time ago. Right. Exactly. For sure, we would have fought over that. But he's not, I mean, if, with just like I said, it literally goes down like that. There is times where we are getting, like we just were creating something right now and you know, someone has a very strong point that it should be this way. And then someone else is like, no, I feel it needs to be this way.

And we just go back and forth. And it always leads to, it presents itself after all that. Yeah, right. So, okay, let's just do this. So I think if people knew that about you, that you're not, it's not like, I think probably there, those same people probably think behind closed doors, we all sit around and then like, you know, Sal does, like, okay, this is what we're going to do and listen to that. Like, it's not like that at all. That's what happens. And I'm sure, Paul, I think, is Justin's the quiet guy and listen to that. It's not like that at all. That's what happens.

And I'm sure, and I'm sure, but I think it's Justin's the quiet guy and the funny guy that he's, you know, is just, you know, the entertainment factor. No, you know, it was funny, was including, what was funny was including someone in our process because up until recently, it was different, huh? Because we have a creative process.

When we go to develop, put together a program, when we put mass performance together, or aesthetic, or prime, or anywhere, or any other program that we put together, it's a creative process. So we usually have a direction like, okay, we want to come up with a program that does this. And then when we go and lock ourselves in a room somewhere,

and there's this entire creative process that includes lots of yelling, lots of movement, riding on windows, you know, sometimes drinking alcohol, things loosened up and you know, so meanwhile Doug is, you know, feverishly trying to record shit and trying to hurt us, you know, together. And many times what comes out at the end of it

is nothing like what we thought we were going to come out with. And to have someone else be a part of it, you know, a brink we had brink be a part of it, you know, he commented a couple times like this is crazy. Yeah, I would love to bring one the show again and talk about. Oh, I want to ask him. Yeah, I'm going to ask him. I'm going to go grab. Yeah, you know, he, I mean, he shared a little bit. I mean, he talked a little bit about what he said it was like You know for a guy which is always neat too because such an intellect right and

To have to try and create something and put it on a piece of paper that you know, you're going to deliver To you know thousands of people all over the world. Yes, that's digestible was a very unique process for him. And I think that's where I think he realized the real magic light was, it's one thing to have all this knowledge, like to know all these things or how to help somebody. And you can be a badass trainer in your field or a badass movement specialist or chiroth, therapists, whatever. But to be able to explain that to somebody virtually is quite challenging.

Get them to understand it immediately. That's such a different mindset is to, yeah, you have all this awesome knowledge and you have all these words that intricately describe it on a medical level, right? But now, try and explain that to Susie, so and so on the street. That's actually what trainers, who just wants to feel better. Yeah, that's what good trainers, yeah, who just wants to feel better.

Yeah, that's what good trainers know how to do. They know how to communicate better than knowledgeable but bad trainers. Is that whole communication process? Shout out Susie so and so. You know, it's funny, too. It's, it definitely is a creative process because I was talking to Jessica and I was talking

about how we went up to Gerneville and how shit was going to flood there and I'm like, fuck man. And she goes, why don't you guys just stay around here, like just stay at somebody's house and stay around here. And I thought about it and I'm like theoretically, it would be the same thing, but it's not. And the reason why it's not is because it's literally

a creative process. It's literally getting in the car, packing our shit, driving there, in the car there's a sequence of events that typically happens where typically recording starts right enough it starts in the car getting there getting everything situated and then locking ourselves and then being far away from everything in a new town like the whole thing is a creative process that what I think is I don't know if it's necessarily necessary but it feels that way I mean it's it's the process now it's necessarily necessary, but it feels that way, I mean. It's the process now.

It's kind of a formula that we've established. Yeah, and I hope it never changed it. I know, I hope it never changed. Yeah, I won't, I don't think so. Hey, if you like Mind Pump, leave us a five star rating review on iTunes. If we like your review and we pick it, you'll get a free Mind Pump t-shirt.

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