Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 461: Ben Greenfield on Elevating Testosterone Levels, Achieving Epic Erections, Benefits of Swimming Naked, Worthless Fitness Products, Raising Health Conscious Kids & MORE

Episode Date: February 23, 2017

In this 3rd interview with Ben Greenfield (www.bengreenfieldfitness.com), Sal, Adam & Justin talk to Ben about a wide range of topics while biohacking their body and brains with various specialized ga...dgets (thus the compressor sound in the background). In this episode Ben gives actionable advice to raise your testosterone levels, achieve greater sexual health and vitality, improve health through nakedness, raise kids that are mindful of what they eat, worthless fitness products and Ben's 6 Spartan races in 2017 as an official sponsored athlete. Enjoy! Get our newest program, Kettlebells 4 Aesthetics (KB4A), which provides full expert workout programming to sculpt and shape your body using kettlebells. Only $7 at www.mindpumpmedia.com! Get MAPS Prime, MAPS Anywhere, MAPS Anabolic, MAPS Performance, MAPS Aesthetic, the Butt Builder Blueprint, the Sexy Athlete Mod AND KB4A (The MAPS Super Bundle) packaged together at a substantial DISCOUNT at www.mindpumpmedia.com. Make EVERY workout better with MAPS Prime, the only pre-workout you need… it is now available at mindpumpmedia.com Have Sal, Adam & Justin personally train you via video instruction on our YouTube channel, Mind Pump TV. Be sure to Subscribe for updates. Get your Kimera Koffee, Mind Pump's first official sponsor, at www.kimerakoffee.com, code "mindpump" for 10% off! Add to the incredible brain enhancing effect of Kimera Koffee with www.brain.fm/mindpump 10 Free sessions! Music for the brain for incredible focus, sleep and naps! Please subscribe, rate and review this show! Each week our favorite reviewers are announced on the show and sent Mind Pump T-shirts! Guys discuss different bio-hacking equipment they are trying (3:24) Ben discusses books he is writing (11:04) Guys discuss how they let their kids eat through education (13:31) Guys discuss what Justin is wearing over his eyes (16:44) Guys discuss more biohacking equipment (24:44) Adam discusses his penis pump  What excites Ben about A.I. / Nutrition advances in future (29:20) Guys discuss WHOOP / Quantlit bracelet (36:58)  Ben discusses becoming Spartan Race sponsored athlete /details about it (39:36) Guys discuss the state of their podcasting and free items they have received (46:15) THC capsules and enemas (50:49)

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Starting point is 00:01:48 Mind, pop, mind, pop with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. You even know his website? You're fucking asshole. PankeryField Fitness. Thank you Justin. Let's hope it's that. Listen, we...
Starting point is 00:02:02 Bunch of asshole, you are. That is a fucking stud and we're not gonna... He's a stud, I love the guy. He's one of our favorite, favorite people. You're gonna hear us talking to him in this next episode. But I want to let you guys know something. We were not totally natural during this interview. There was a little bit of enhancement,
Starting point is 00:02:20 lined enhancement. That's right. I'm not gonna go into what it was. We're not gonna tell you what the Red Ball therapy. Yeah, it could be it could be some of the The hacking the bio hacking tools could have been microdose of mushrooms or LSD or Natural Neutropics or Camera or you're excited about or it could have been all of those things at the same time I'm not saying it was I'm saying altitude. I'm just saying it could have been come on man And so you're going to hear a fire episode. I was a hydrated
Starting point is 00:02:46 It's a fire fire episode great time with Ben Greenfield You can find his website Ben Greenfield fitness. He's also got a great podcast If you like to learn stuff if you like to be smart if you want to know more than the next This is like Ben is the suit at men. I've never met more of a true biohacker than Ben Ben. Ben is very well read biohacker. There you go. That's another thing too. I've met some guys that claim to be biohackers and they know a little bit about one thing. This motherfucker knows a lot.
Starting point is 00:03:13 He reads everybody's shit. Very smart guy. Great man. Great father. Great host. Here's mind pump talking to Ben Greenfield. Let's try and do two times speed talking the whole time. That's what I'm doing.
Starting point is 00:03:28 I'm gonna be like, I'm gonna be like, that's what I'm doing. I'm gonna do this for you guys. I'm gonna do it. So he's one of my favorite guys. So he'll be like, we've been good.
Starting point is 00:03:36 That's what I've been. Micro Machines. Micro Machines. Where do you think that guy is at now? Disclaimer. Where do you think he's at? Where do you think the Micro Machines are? Where do you think the Micro Machines are?
Starting point is 00:03:43 He probably is. Can we Google it? He's a bunch of royalty shaves a little mustache and moved it. He's just selling it. Like, do you think the mic machine guys at now? He probably Can we do much royalty shapes a little mustache and move day? Selling it like you think you made that much money You think he made millions I think he made it's hard. I'm unloaded. I think he made a decent amount of money He probably died of a we should look him up a micro machine guy. Yeah, my machine vote voice I'll just never forget him in the oxy clean guy Do you guys remember the joke the micro machines joke that everybody everybody said in elementary school. No, you go up to your buddy like, hey Does it say micro machines on your dick and they're like no, but then it's not the real thing?
Starting point is 00:04:10 I'm the commercial if it didn't say micro machines not the real thing. That's like I was only a click on the back And nobody did that to me You made a very sad face Maybe like an asshole That joke is like my childhood. I was home-sold what asshole. I would have laughed at that joke if he was seeing that. He's like my childhood. I was home-stalled. What are friends? So this is crazy.
Starting point is 00:04:29 We are all super, super optimized right now. But when you let our listeners know, I had something on my head that is sending light to my scalp. That was a neuro. A neuro. It was photobio modulation. So it was bathing my scalp with photo modulation and I had a nose, what I call a nose dildo, but it's actually a nose, something else.
Starting point is 00:04:52 My mouth almost. Nose dildo for Alzheimer's. And it's a difference between that and a regular nose dildo. My bad. And it sent light into my nose because apparently that also is good for your brain and increases elicis nitric oxide into my brain. Right, and activates mitochondrial activity in neural tissue. Okay, we'll be back that up a second.
Starting point is 00:05:09 So that the light actually releases the nitric oxide? The light causes the release of nitric oxide by mitochondria or by the cells in neural tissue which activate mitochondria. Okay. But the cool thing is the nitric oxide crosses the blood brain barrier. And when I interviewed the people who developed this device for Alzheimer's and dementia,
Starting point is 00:05:27 they talked to me about how you get the increase in alpha-brain wave activity. So there's a change in EEG. So there's measurable changes. And that's. And that's. But the other thing that you get is an improvement in its force performance due to the increase in nitric oxide. Oh, what a waste of putting it on hanging.
Starting point is 00:05:40 Well, you know what else nitric oxide does. You get? Well, you know what else? Nitric oxide does. You get a boner. It helps you with your boner getting abilities. So that would explain what happened shortly after. Is it, does it Viagra have a ton of that? No, Viagra doesn't have a ton of nitric oxide. Oh, it does. It reduces the degradation of it.
Starting point is 00:05:56 Sildenafil. So nitric oxide actually stays active. So the best way to use Viagra, if you're going to use Viagra, is you have a bunch of beats or a Rougola or a chocolate or something else. That's going to amplify the nitric oxide release. The Sildena fill will increase the amount of time that it stays in the bloodstream. Okay, we get in your... So it's like the patch of time in the emergency room.
Starting point is 00:06:13 And you got it exactly. We get a boner for that. You got to back that up because I feel like there's a... I mean, let's be honest here, there's a lot of... Oh, you have a good music in Viagra. Yeah, what's the Viagra recipe here? You just said what did you combine it with? So you'd want... It's a PDE5 inhibitor. There is this. Okay, well, instead of talking all nerdy. Yeah, what's the Viagra recipe here? You just said, what did you combine it with? So you'd want a PDE5 inhibitor.
Starting point is 00:06:26 There is this. Okay, well, instead of talking all nerdy in science, let's explain to somebody who would actually take Viagra and want to amplify it with some sugar. Well, there was this summit called the Men's Sexual Satisfaction Summit Online. I'm sure you can probably Google it and find it. And I talked about how this idea,
Starting point is 00:06:42 like this four hour chef idea, I liked him Ferris and a lot of his ideas, but this whole concept that he has in that book, I think of a pre-sex meal of steak and some really, really fatty foods along with, I think it's pine pollen. It's his recommendations that the fats increase the libido enhancing potential of the pine pollen.
Starting point is 00:07:00 That's all great on paper, but the problem is, I don't know if you guys have had like a huge steak in a bunch of fats prior to sex, but you're in a food coma. What you want is a very light nitric oxide releasing meal. These would be things like beets, pine nuts, arugula, a little bit of watermelon, a little bit of dark chocolate, and then of course, my egg right. Oh, my bad. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:22 No, but even like a polyphenol rich alcoholic drink, right, like something like a mojito with some pomegranate juice in it, right? So you can try pichinoginol. Yeah, that makes a mint cilantro lime. Pichinoginol, what is that? Pichinoginol. Pichinoginol.
Starting point is 00:07:35 It's very similar to that pine pollen. Yeah, it'll boost up that nectar. In fact, I took pichinoginol pre-workout for a little while there, and one of the side effects was it giving a headache. It was too much. Too much vasodilation. So you really, you smell like pine, do you wear a flannel?
Starting point is 00:07:50 So that's an essential oil air diffuser over there on the surface of my desk. And I diffuse pine in that because it actually has a little bit of a neutropic effect. Very similar to like this, you guys probably see in the research they've done in Japan on shinrin yoku, forest bathing, where you get a decrease in salivary cortisol,
Starting point is 00:08:10 and an increase in alpha brainwave production. Forest bathing. All these cool things that happen when you get exposed to the polyphenols released from pine, but they also had a study that they did. This was in rodent models, admittedly, but they took blue spruce oil,
Starting point is 00:08:24 which is a special type of pine-like extract, and that actually increased testosterone in rodent models when they put this in their drinking water. So, in this sauna that's in the room next door, it's where we're at right now. I have a whole bottle of this blue spruce oil, and I put it all over the sauna inside the sauna when I go in there and do my morning sauna, and you feel amazing when you walk out. I haven't experimented much with morning sauna, and you feel amazing when you walk out. I have an experimented much with like testing blood
Starting point is 00:08:47 testosterone and consuming the stuff, but as far as pine in general goes, it's like one of my favorite sense. Okay, so- Now here's something important though to note about nitric oxide because like with anything, when we find that something has a beneficial effect, we tend to go crazy and wanna boost the shit out of it
Starting point is 00:09:02 or take a lot of it, nitric oxide does have an oxidizing effect in the body, and so you have to be careful. If you go crazy with nitric oxide, if you're constantly bathing yourself on nitric oxide, you can get some oxidizing effects to yourself, you can accelerate the aging process, you can increase the risks of certain oxidized,
Starting point is 00:09:21 type related degenerative diseases. So what I recommend a lot of people do, if they're into the biohacking, and by the way, if you're an individual that is at a very high level with your train, your nutrition like Ben, these are the types of people that would benefit from going above and beyond.
Starting point is 00:09:35 If you're diet is shit and you're not exercising, you're not gonna notice much. But what you need, what you should do is you should, if you're going to boost nitrous oxide, it's also increase your intake of antioxidants and things that can protect you from the oxidizing effects of nitrochoxide. So I wanna make sure we say that
Starting point is 00:09:50 before you know, people go crazy. But you gotta be careful with that too, because antioxidants will shut down your hermetic response to exercise. It's all bound to. I'm actually, yeah. So I'm pretty careful with taking too many antioxidants because I want my body to create its own.
Starting point is 00:10:04 Now at the same time, this is all individual, right? So if you go, if you go and you take your, if you get a genetic analysis, like a salivary genetic analysis, and you import the results to a website, like DNA fit, for example, you can actually look at your endogenous production of things like glutathione, superoxide, dismutease,
Starting point is 00:10:23 a lot of these antioxidants, and many people have lower than normal levels of endogenous antioxidant production, meaning that they would benefit from regular utilization, and a lot of people produce a lot of glutathione. Now, I have a question for you in regards to that. It'll show levels of antioxidants, but do they test and show? No, it'll show the SNPs responsible, the genetic SNPs responsible for producing, for producing not by oxidants. And so basically the idea here is that some people are more genetically predisposed to recover more quickly or to produce more of their own.
Starting point is 00:10:55 And maybe those were the people who your genetic ancestry came from copious hours of time spent in Mexican sunlight getting the shit right out of your stomach. So I have to ask you, does this have anything to do with your current book that you're working on? The whole pine thing? Yeah, your forest, can we talk about that? Can we get in? Wait, what book? I see you writing a book right now, aren't you? No. Well, okay, okay, I'm writing a fiction book, writing a fiction book called The Forest. Yes, takes place in
Starting point is 00:11:22 forest. So I'm working on a whole series of books. For after this one's going to be snowland, like snow ice land, and then there'll be an ocean land and then a desert land. And every time that I'm starting into a new book, I'm taking my kids to an area of the world where that land actually exists, right? So we'll spend time researching. So when I start the desert book, I'll take them to South America. We'll spend some time down there. We're getting good at researching.
Starting point is 00:11:43 So that's actually really cool. So for kids' inspiration, but the very first book, because we live out in the forest, I figured why not just start with, let's right here in our own backyard, because we go out there in the backyard and find wild nettles and mint and organ grapefruit
Starting point is 00:11:57 and all manner of these different wild edibles. And do like the forest walking, we do sit spots. My kids do a local wilderness survival school here, which is taught by a guy who studied under Tom Brown, like this famous wilderness tracker, wilderness explorer. And so they learn how to survive outside, how to dig your own debris shelter, and how to harvest your own plant roots and leaves. But a big part of that too is we go out here in the backyard and we practice. So some nights we'll go out there and camp and we'll set up our tent on Fridays in the
Starting point is 00:12:27 summer when you're here at the Greenfield House, you can only eat food that you gathered from the forest until dinner, right? Until then, all you need is what came from the forest. And you can go get wild nettles and you're allowed to use things from inside the house. You can get wild nettles and you could take some avocado oil or olive oil, come back in and fry those up with some. So you're teaching your kids this right now. This is like this.
Starting point is 00:12:51 You're so ready for zombie apocalypse. So ready. Exactly. Actually, zombie apocalypse is basically a shotgun. I mean, fuck the wild nettles. I'm going straight to the home. I'm going to the center. Yeah, to throw nettles at that.
Starting point is 00:13:01 Samurai sword. Yeah, that looks like it works. But yeah, I mean, the idea is that sometimes necessity is the mother of an vet. So if you are able to open the refrigerator and eat the eggs and the steak and the tuna and everything, that's what you can do. But if you know all you can do is eat from outdoors,
Starting point is 00:13:16 then you're gonna go grab pineapple weed and organ grape and mint and all these different cornucopia of different wild plant extracts, which speaking of antioxidants are great. Because there's a huge stressor on the body, right? organ, grape, and mint, and all these different cornucopia of different wild plant extracts, which, speaking of antioxidants are great, because there's a huge stressor on the body, right? Now, are you afraid that your kids will become teenagers and rebel or go to college and rebel,
Starting point is 00:13:35 and then just see pop tarts and hop-op, and just say, no, I don't know if we talked about this on the previous episode that we did, but my belief with my kids is I let them do anything they want. All I do is I educate them, right? I love that. So, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, I came back and he was, you know, I'm trying to have the straw. And I explain to him all the research that does indeed show that especially when you're under the age of 18,
Starting point is 00:14:11 it can affect gray matter in the brain and it can affect neural cell activity. And there are some, there's some pretty conclusive research that shows that marijuana may actually harm the brain. In the same way that I tell them that alcohol until your liver is fully formed, is not gonna be that great especially in high quantities for your liver, or that coffee, for example, is not that great for bone density.
Starting point is 00:14:31 And then I let them choose if they want to try to add vapor, have a glass of wine or drink a cup of coffee, or, you know, eat a gluten cupcake at their friends birthday party, and they always make good decisions when I educate them. So, for example, they know gluten, even if it doesn't hurt your tummy, can cause some neural inflammation, some brain inflammation, especially if it's like a concentrated form of gluten from commercial wheat. So when they go to their friend's house at the birthday party, they realize that eating a quarter of a cupcake provides them with far less concentrated form of gluten than if they eat
Starting point is 00:15:01 the whole cupcake. So they'll have like part of the cupcake or they'll have, you know, when somebody brings the chips or the bread to the table and we're at a restaurant, they'll have like one half of a piece of bread or a couple of chips. So they understand moderation. Now what's that like as a father knowing that you've implemented this strategy, right, with them and then watching it actually play out like that where they're making this decision.
Starting point is 00:15:22 I mean, you gotta be fucking pumped inside. He's gotta make you super happy. No, it's fantastic. Like the other day I took River out on a where they're making it. I mean, you got to be fucking pumped inside. Right. You got to make you super happy. No, it's fantastic. Like the other day, I took River out on a date. I took him to a wild sage, one of our favorite restaurants here. And it's like a fancy, right? It's kind of cool. It's take your kids to a fancy restaurant because you teach them about an adequate, put the
Starting point is 00:15:35 napkin in the lap, which forked to use, which knife to use. It's a very cool experience for a kid, but they had like this goat cheese that they brought to the table, along with pork belly and crustinis and pea sprouts. It was a great little appetizer, but there was this huge pile of goat cheese left on the plate when we finished. And I said, River, do you want the goat cheese? And he said, no, I don't wanna have too much dairy
Starting point is 00:15:56 because it kind of affects my ability to talk, it makes me stutter a little bit. Wow. But he knows his taught, and he knows that because when he was playing soccer, we figured out that by reducing the amount of dairy that he ate, not eliminating it, but just being careful because we eat good dairy, we eat goat cheese and raw dairy and all this stuff,
Starting point is 00:16:12 but when he has too much, he stutters and he seems to have some issues with like exercise and doosatasma and so we educated him about what dairy does to his body and now he's able to make decisions like that. That's excellent. But that's the whole philosophy. That's the approach I use to educate your kids. I use that approach for my kids, but I use it with a combined old school approach. So I educate them and then if they do what I don't want them to do, then I beat them.
Starting point is 00:16:34 And it's extremely effective. They've been super good with everything. We don't believe in beating. We have cages and we hang on. We can do this. Right. There's something called shock therapy. So I had the lights on my scalp up my nose, and then Justin had like really futuristic looking
Starting point is 00:16:51 like glasses. I was seeing green, and I felt like, what is that? So that's, so every morning, especially we, as you can see, we're on a north-facing slope. We've got pretty good sunlight outside right now, but usually from about 10 a.m. to 2 p.m. especially in the winter, that's when you get sunlight. And before and after that, there's really not a lot of sun exposure, so you miss out on, you know, your body's major zite-guiders, or circadian rhythm cues, are exercise, food, and light.
Starting point is 00:17:18 So if you're trying to reset your circadian rhythms or you've been traveling a lot or you want to eliminate the symptoms of jet lag, one thing that you can do is a light exercise session in the morning. Another is not skipping breakfast, but instead including breakfast, and it appears that including like 20 to 30 grams of protein with breakfast is just as important as having breakfast. Interesting. When it comes to regulating circadian rhythm, then the final one is light. And blue light from sunlight is ideal.
Starting point is 00:17:43 We're standing in my office right here under the, you see how bright these lights are? Yeah, these are with full spectrum. When I'm in here in the evening, these lights are not on because these are made by a company called Lighting Science, they're called biological LED bulbs. And they produce huge amounts of light from the blue light wave spectrum,
Starting point is 00:17:58 which is great for shutting down melatonin and for sending your body and message at this daytime, especially, you know, we're as close as we can get to standing under sunlight right now by being underneath these bulbs. You can see over there attached to the desk lamp on my office is what's called a ruby-lux lamp. So the only thing that will be in here when you come in here and I'm working at night is that lamp which is all red light and then of course the giant ball light panel. Oh, I can't wait. We're gonna talk about that. We're going to get to. We can get there. Hold that. Hold that. Hold that.
Starting point is 00:18:26 Anyways, though, but when I get up in the morning and I'm wandering around the kitchen and I'm making coffee and I'm kind of sitting upstairs at the kitchen table because I don't really come down to my office early in the morning, I wear what Justin was wearing and that is these special glasses that produce 10,000 lux of light, which is the same spectrum of light. It's called greenish blue light. It's very different from these white light boxes that people will prescribe or use for seasonal effective disorder.
Starting point is 00:18:51 This is a different spectrum of light. It's much closer to what sunlight produces and does not produce the same retinal damage as those blue light boxing lights produce. And then the other thing that you had in your ears, you actually have photo receptors in your ears that when stimulated cause a release of things like serotonin and dopamine and adrenaline.
Starting point is 00:19:08 A lot of these things you get from when you look at sunlight. You had the human charger in your ears and then you had the retrangourney. So every morning in the winter, I do both of those at the same time for 12 to 20 minutes every single morning, put the lights on, the glasses, and then the in here. And that's why. I like to just, cause, you know, I could see Zite Gaiber's now. Zite Gaiber's now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:30 Yeah. Yeah. And it's influencing guys' eyes. Yeah. So we have to, you mentioned it, so now we gotta talk about it. You have, I'm gonna explain this to listeners. It looks like it's a big panel. Let's see, Adam should take a picture of it.
Starting point is 00:19:44 I'm gonna do right now, is I'm gonna take a picture, and I'm gonna take a video where we're talking about it. Yeah, so it's a big panel. Let's see, Adam should take a picture of it. I'm gonna do right now, as I'm gonna take a picture, and I'm gonna take a video that we're talking about. It's like a panel of lights, and when you turn it on, the red, and they seem to be warm, maybe because the red color gives that impression. And what you're supposed to do...
Starting point is 00:20:00 It feels powerful. You're supposed to... It's lit on here. To scanner G. Actually, not supposed to. It's this energy. It's actually not supposed to be. It's right, doesn't it just hit you? Well, when I'm in here at night, I wear these bright, blocking glasses, because it's actually not good.
Starting point is 00:20:12 It came with special glasses. You're supposed to work, because you're not supposed to look at that light. Oh, see, it's actually. So what you do is you, you didn't tell us. You're right, you're right. It's a squirrel, there it is. You just got eye cancer.
Starting point is 00:20:23 So I'm going to explain now. You turn this, you stand over it, you take your pants and underwear off, so you're straddling it. I don't wear underwear, so just pants off it. So now you've got nude. Well, we found that out. You've got balls hanging over it,
Starting point is 00:20:36 and then you bave your balls. So five to 20 minutes. And this red light. Bave your balls. Now it's very important you use the light from the right wave spectrum. So if you were to do this inside. So if I bave my the right wave spectrum. So if you were to do this in a side, if I'd bathe my balls in different light,
Starting point is 00:20:46 so if you'd use like UVA light from a tanning bed, for example, not good. Not good, not good. So what happens though is when the ladig cells in your testes get exposed to light, it very produces the thoughts from the very same way that when your neural cells get exposed to light that you stick up your nose, you activate mitochondria.
Starting point is 00:21:03 And I wasn't aware of this until this fertility doctor who I spoke with in Finland is the guy who first filled me in on this. He wrote an article for my site called 17 Ways to Biohack your testosterone. One of the things that he talks about is the studies they've done that have shown increased sperm production
Starting point is 00:21:17 and increased testosterone when you bathe your balls in 600 to 700 nanometers of red light. And that's exact. So this thing was not too bad. Now, you get that, I'm close to you get that too bad. But this thing arrived in my house, they're like, oh, you can use it just like a son. I'm like, I have a freaking son.
Starting point is 00:21:32 I have like a full son of that, I can go inside. But then I got to looking at the same, like I could set this up against my desk. Like so. It's right next to my crotch and I could flip this on while I'm working. Always optimizing. Wouldn't that not be the most epic picture ever?
Starting point is 00:21:44 They're like this backside. It's like standing working just in that not be the most epic picture ever? They're like, is backside, is it like standing working, just pan-stand? And the, pan-stand. I have a YouTube video where I'm doing it. Oh, you did. And you get like increased vascularities and you get increased size. Is it warm?
Starting point is 00:21:56 Under sex afterwards and it gets like warm and snuggly. And so here's the thing, it's the size of your balls. So here's the thing, because they talk a lot about the placebo effect. I'm sure there's a lot of things. Sometimes I struggle the light and steamers from coconut oil.
Starting point is 00:22:07 This is what I'm saying. This is what I'm thinking. I'm getting on the couch. I'm trying to picture this. I'm at my desk, I'm working, and I just take everything off. So now I'm naked from the bottom down. I don't need light.
Starting point is 00:22:16 I think that's gonna naturally make me feel, and I think I might produce more testosterone. I should do a control. Just because I'm naked. That actually would be interesting to see. Because I think just letting my shit hang out, and I've done this experiment like this all the time, when I don't have the kids and I'm at home,
Starting point is 00:22:28 I do walk around bottom like I always say. I was actually telling you guys about this, so upstairs we're messing around with the saddle chair, right, which is the special chair that I've got. Oh god. Splits your, just awesome. It's just all of a spone part. Awesome.
Starting point is 00:22:38 Yeah, but the next part's great. It was designed by a guy who rides horses in Finland. He's actually known as one of the top like health and fitness entrepreneurs in Finland because he has all these crazy ideas like like playing tennis with your right and left arm so that you don't create biomechanical abnormalities from tennis the same as you'd get in like a baseball pitcher.
Starting point is 00:22:55 And he crates these saddle chairs. He has like a desk. I've interviewed him on my podcast, he's his Vessie. He has this desk that has cameras built in that will detect when you're typing versus when you are, say, talking on the phone or reading and adjust the height of your monitor accordingly, because it's supposed to be a different height.
Starting point is 00:23:10 But then he has these saddle chairs. He develops special kind of clothing that keep the pressure. Like he's big time into like the bras, cause, cancer, clothing and his fertility and men. So like all of his clothing is especially designed to not compress you. When I went to his house, he was sleeping. That emo kids are doing it wrong. When I went to his house, he was sleeping in a helmet at night because he was trying to figure out the ideal height for a pillow that he's designing to increase the amount of
Starting point is 00:23:40 cranial flow, like blood flow to the brain because he believes that like the cocked neck from the height of most modern pillows reduces the blood flow to the brain and the biomechanical position of the neck while you're asleep. And then the thing that I think that you were talking about is he's trying to give this the entire finish swim team to begin to do all their training naked because he's found that the tightness of the swimwear actually reduces the, and he's really into that. Right, the motor recruitment of the glutes. So you get less glute extension, less glute activation. You could argue that science, I know we could argue that.
Starting point is 00:24:11 So he's like, well, you should do all your swim training naked. And so a lot of these things kind of make sense. Yeah, absolutely. But now we gotta do this. Well, here's the thing. I don't know about this. We own our own. And by the way, I went,
Starting point is 00:24:23 why swam laps naked with them when I was there. No, you didn't. Yeah, just to test this out. So we went to his local gym early in the morning. No, we was there in the pools. We just took all our clothes out. You're the greatest sport ever. Yeah, did they touch?
Starting point is 00:24:34 So we have a gym in our, that we own ourselves, that we film in, that's private just for us. We should just work out naked and just see what happens. Wow. You know, they actually have something called the private gem For it's upstairs in my bathroom It's a series of weighted magnets that you train with a very similar to like the old school method of like putting a wet towel around your Dick. Oh, yeah getting a boner and training the strength of a boner by Voicing an increasingly wet and larger towel. This is the same things
Starting point is 00:25:03 I've slow for a little five towels. It's a little magnet, it comes with a little booklet training program. I'm not touching this. And you get a boner. Yeah, don't touch the magnets in the bathroom. You get a boner. And every time you train with it, I did two months of training with it.
Starting point is 00:25:15 I wrote a whole report on my website. Is it really? Yeah. And basically, what it does is it gets you stronger and stronger because you add magnets every time you train. Oh, this is great. And the red magnet's fit right around your dick and it's called the private gym.
Starting point is 00:25:27 You can Google it. Oh, yeah. Oh my God, we should sell our website. Are you sponsored yet by the police? No, please. Okay, come on. Actually, I just think my website did get sponsored for a few podcasts episodes by the people who do the shockwave therapy
Starting point is 00:25:42 for your dick. Whoa. This is a lot of things training. Sounds aggressive. You have a very, this is right up our alley, though, I feel like. I feel like they're, why aren't we sponsored by a company like this? I'm so, so dick. So this was when I went and I spoke at a yoga retreat in Costa Rica, and on my way back
Starting point is 00:25:57 flying home from Costa Rica, I stopped off in Florida at this clinic called Health Gains. And what they do is what's called Extracorporeal Shockwave Therapy, where I walk in there and they hand me this bottle of numbing cream that I score all over my dick. Then I walk into this room and there's this, and it looks like some auto movie, hot nurse and like the white nurses outfit, like holding this wand, smiling at me.
Starting point is 00:26:21 And I sit down in the medical examination chair, spread my legs with a numbing cream on my dick, and they sit down in the medical examination chair, spread my legs with a numbing cream on my dick, and they do 20 minutes of shockwave therapy using a specific acoustic cream. But do they have like a button that they're just going to? And what it does is it causes some vascular damage, it's like a whoremedic treatment for your dick. You grow new vessels, and since I've done that, the effects last for a month or two.
Starting point is 00:26:45 I mean, I mean, so basically you get these massive boners. Three nights. It's just like doing the light for the balls, except it's like that on steroids. We'll be posting a picture on our Instagram. Okay, so if you do something like this, this extra-corporeal shockwave therapy, and I mean, like we talk about Viagra or CLs,
Starting point is 00:27:02 the effects for this last months with none of the side effects. And it actually works. Like, it was kind of funny because I'm walking out of there when I got the treatment. They're like, do you have a woman you can be with tonight? I'm putting it off for you, woman. I'm fucking 3000 miles from home.
Starting point is 00:27:15 You can't use this. It's kind of funny because I'm like, I actually, I'm supposed to have dinner with my grandma to Cuban restaurant. Oh my god. So they're like, okay, so you might want to wait till you get home. But it's kind of funny because I was sitting there with my grandma to Cuban restaurants. Oh my God. So like, okay, so you might want to wait till you get home. But it's kind of funny, because I was sitting there with my grandma
Starting point is 00:27:28 to Cuban restaurant when stuff kind of started, like the numbing cream started to wear off and things started to like move around down there. It was like tiny little snakes and like, naked of like, holy cow, what's going on? It's just really awkward, grandma. Yeah, yeah. Hey, grandma, can you, wait your napkin and hand it to me please?
Starting point is 00:27:43 Yeah. We're gonna do some exercises. Yeah, exactly. That's almost like that. That's and hand it to me please? Yeah, we're gonna do some exercises. Yeah Exactly, that's almost like that. That's almost like that. What's that thing you were trying to add up your black beans and rice because my dick is hungry The penis pump. Yeah, what's up? You time? Well, that's what I was saying. Rope hormone and penis pump thing that was that apparently makes things I met a doctor I'm combo. Yeah, I met a doctor who Swore up and down that if you if you were taking growth hormone and you were using a penis
Starting point is 00:28:07 pump that you would see a significant change in your mouth. I asked these people how this is different than a penis pump and they said you can cause some vascular damage with a penis pump very similar to this. Yeah, right. That's what I get started asking. But what I did was because I mean, I'm out here. I'm a complete like hippie out in the forest. I don't like to have to fly to a clinic in Florida
Starting point is 00:28:26 to do this kind of stuff. So I started to research these units to see if I could buy one for home use, like one of these extra corporeal shockwave therapies. And I found a company in Germany that actually produces the same type of year many games on me. They wouldn't sell it for a course.
Starting point is 00:28:40 They will not sell it for consumer home use. Probably because I know why, because you could go too far. They don't want some kids sticking in their ears, but, or you don't want to break, you don't want to have someone break their dick and see them. Because if it causes damage, I'm assuming you could go too far.
Starting point is 00:28:54 Breaking your dick. Which, what I'm thinking is, maybe if I just just get the music really loud and similar to this ball light, pull down my pants in front of a speaker and just blast it with sound, that I might get similar effects. You could go too far with a penis pump and you can still get away with that.
Starting point is 00:29:11 You just have to have a display. Your guitar really loud next to my penis. Oh my God. Biohacking goes in many different directions here. Absolutely. Now, you have to ask him what we were talking about last night. We were talking last night and I said, you know, this would be a great question as Ben with the whole biohacking. We were talking about people, what we thought in the future night. I said, this would be a great question as Ben with the whole biohacking.
Starting point is 00:29:25 We were talking about people, what we thought in the future, where we're going to be as far as like artificial, artificially. Intelligence. You're so ahead of the curve when it comes to these advanced technologies. Where do you see AI playing a role in this? Because AI is going to change, potentially, can change. So here is what I'm most excited about with AI. And this is being developed right now by a company.
Starting point is 00:29:49 I had a walk through it last week. And I'm under NDA. I'm not allowed to actually talk about which company is doing this. But the idea is that you get your blood, your saliva, your microbiome, your urine, your hormones, everything tested. There is AI out there that will not only interpret those results for you, but actually create a customized supplement, lifestyle, exercise diet program for you based on those results. And you have this special dashboard that you can log into and you can see a walkthrough
Starting point is 00:30:20 of all your results and it's all based off actual data. Literally, like hundreds of thousands of patients they've been tracking over the past see a walkthrough of all your results and it's all based off actual data. Literally like hundreds of thousands of patients they've been tracking over the past several years as they've been developing this software. It's a very big company that has access to big, big data. But that's what I'm excited about with AI is for me to be able to say, have my phone and they have lab on a chip technology too, which means people are going to be able to take their blood using their phone or using it like an at home test kit.
Starting point is 00:30:45 So what excites me is being able to test my blood, plug it in, attach my phone to my career time, all of a sudden boom. So AI is interpreting on my values, but then also, more importantly for me, rather than we have to pay a physician or pay a consultant, or pay a trainer or pay a dietician. It makes little micro-tweets inside the bones.
Starting point is 00:31:02 Right there in front of me tells me exactly what to do. God, all of a sudden, not only is microbiome and blood testing affordable to the masses, but think about the potential for this. So, not that I'm in a medical route. You can apply towards, so here's something, and again, and I can't say which company this is, but for example, they're partnering up with a food company,
Starting point is 00:31:25 meaning that what you can do is you can actually, these companies like Blue A, Brin and Hello Fresh, like what if they had access to your AI, or to tell your blood saliva to customize meals created for you based off your macronutrient ratio and your nutrient deficits delivered to your home, you get all the ingredients with the recipe cards, you make the meal yourself,
Starting point is 00:31:45 and it's all tweaked for your cost. It's just getting way more specific. I will have to say this, probably one of the most frustrating things that I have to say to people when they ask me questions about nutrition and exercise and supplements and sleep, and all these things,
Starting point is 00:32:00 the most frustrating answer that we all have to give people is it depends. It's always what you have to say It depends and that there's there are general rules But the variances between individuals can be absolutely dramatic and I I agree with you like if you look at some of the most optimized Athletes or trainers who are very successful training clients They've just gotten really fucking good at reading these little signals because they've done it for 20 or 30 years. I mean, I've been a trainer for 20 years.
Starting point is 00:32:27 I'm pretty good now at reading signals with my clients, but I have to ask a lot of questions. It's all subjective. You see patterns. I got to listen to patterns all the time. I wouldn't know this had not done this for 20 years. I cannot imagine what it's going to be like when it's going to be an objective metric. And you can read all these things. Exactly. I mean, like, you know, annoying top top what's the best supplement I can take exactly well
Starting point is 00:32:49 Do you have a genetic SNP responsible for poor methylation? It might be methyl tetrahedral? Are you vegan? Maybe it's creatine right so yeah, I mean once you have a computer that can spit all this out for you Well even even that man I was so fascinated when we were, we had a buddy, you're on who is doing some work right now with the footprint. Yeah, the food ink. Food ink is the company that he works with
Starting point is 00:33:14 and they're trying to get this passed right now. We're the documentary, food ink. Yeah, it is actually. I don't know. Yeah, food ink is the company. That's the parent company to what they're doing right now. But anyways, are we allowed to talk about this? Yeah, we can talk about that.
Starting point is 00:33:29 He has some stuff that's... You get some proprietors. They're doing the glucose monitors, right? So, and I remember one of the questions I asked him right away, I said, well, I understand the glycemic index. So, how obvious or how big is it of a difference? And he's like, oh, you would, how obvious or how big is it of a difference? He's like, oh, you would be blown away by the individual difference on like how that book right there
Starting point is 00:33:50 wired to eat by Rob Wolf that I just finished reading. He's somebody I'd like to get on the show, by the way. Part of that book that he go, I can make an introduction later on. But that book goes into how rather than just eating any specific diet, there's this research based out of Israel that they did a couple of years ago that shows that some people eat a cookie and have a completely non-responsive glucose in it. Exactly. And the glucose is right at all, cookie, banana, whatever. And then some people it goes through the roof.
Starting point is 00:34:18 So his whole diet and that book is based off of using a blood glucose monitor to measure fasting and post-prandial blood glucose. And if my lunchtime salad of whatever, sardines and fennel seed and some vegetables and a handful of pumpkin seeds makes your blood glucose go through the roof and stay up there. And that's not a one-twenty-two-hour slayer form for this. Then hey, that's a great diet for me, but for you, obviously there's something in there causing a deleterious glucose response. And that's, and so what they're trying to do,
Starting point is 00:34:47 and one of the problem with that, with measuring glucose, is you gotta prick your finger, you gotta measure, they have devices now, and what they're trying to do is bring these to the mainstream market where it's constant. It's in your... It's in your shoulder, and you go like, this is your iPhone. Yeah, it's an iPhone. And it's constant, you can see what's happening real time
Starting point is 00:35:03 all the time. Well, they have like a Dexcom G5. That's actually one of the companies, I have a prescription for it. I haven't, now the Dexcom G5, the cool thing about that, you know, we were talking early about, you know, invisible variables like air and light and water and electricity and how you do need to be careful
Starting point is 00:35:17 with electrical pollution and constantly getting irradiated with devices. It's one of the few constant blood glucose monitors that doesn't bombard your body with radiation, the whole time that it's on you. So it's not like constantly emitting a Bluetooth signal. But the idea is that that's an implantable. The reason I haven't done it is because I'm still doing an obstacle course racing, and there's still some issues with like water and bar wire. Okay, along the lines of that, those like implant.
Starting point is 00:35:40 Implanting stuff, how open are you to as technology advances? Well, that's really the topic we got into last night. I mean, do you know how many fucking hundreds of thousands of like red nanoparticles are just circulating around in my shoulder from something like that? I mean, anybody who's got a tattoo should not snub their nose at getting anything else in planning their bodies for. That's a great point. All the pigments you have circulating around in your body, plus possibly quite a bit of hepatitis from just the tattoo. No, I'm serious. It's kind of a lot of good tattoos. I have hepatitis C, nanoparticle. I've got an MRIs of my body,
Starting point is 00:36:13 and I have low redox potential in this shoulder, just from red ink. You would be surprised at what a lot of these things do. I got a question for you then. If you do get a tattoo, then do you recommend just plain black? Is that the best one? If I could go back and do it again, I'd stick with just plain black or any.
Starting point is 00:36:26 Red is the worst. Red is the worst thing I've put in a tattoo. Yeah, that's what I heard. Because I have just plain black on my back. I didn't know this when I got it. And then later on, I heard some of the stuff where you're talking about. And I was like, holy shit.
Starting point is 00:36:37 I had, because you don't, you know, I mean, you have no idea. You have no idea, but if you think about it, obviously you're putting it in. I get your back into it again. I do Hannah. Sparkles. Hannah Sparkles? Twitter. Yeah. Yeah, no, but I mean think about it, obviously you're putting it again. I do Hannah Sparkles. Hannah Sparkles, Twitter.
Starting point is 00:36:45 Yeah. Yeah, but I mean, I got my tattoo in the Philippines, so I'm sure I'm okay. Probably. So little legit. Yeah. On the streets in the Philippines. Right. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:36:56 Just like the Tijuana testosterone. Somebody asked us about, was it WPWHLLP? What is that? Yeah, device. I have one. Well, I mean, I usually use the ring for self-quantification. Is this or a ring that I'm wearing? That measures body temperature and heart rate
Starting point is 00:37:12 and heart rate variability. But I can keep it in airplane mode all day long. So I'm not irradiating my body with a constantly transmitted Bluetooth signal like a Fitbit or a job on my beer leasing. And then when I want to sink it to my phone and download all my data, I put it in Bluetooth mode, download all the data, then shut the radiation back off.
Starting point is 00:37:32 So that's one of the things I like about it. Plus, it looks like it came out of a cereal box, which is just a great conversation. It looks very, very, now, great, no, the loop is very cool. I interviewed them for my show. I own one. It does a lot of similar things, right?
Starting point is 00:37:46 Body temperature and heart rate variability and all these different measurements that kind of well, you know, in the morning, it'll tell you, hey, your nervous system is prepared and ready to train or your beat up, you might be on the brink of overtraining or injury. So take an easy day. But the cool thing about whoop is that they have a really, really good athlete coach interface. So for coaches who are working with a stable of athletes, for example, and want every one of those athletes to wear a wop, but then want like a centralized dashboard
Starting point is 00:38:10 they can log into to see every single athlete and say, oh, hey, my point guard today, he's gonna need to make this, a pretty easy day, but my guard's based on their current training platform, they're gonna be able to handle a pretty tough workout. That's great. Basically, it's got a really cool, cool athlete interface, which is why I like that as it's so much more specific.
Starting point is 00:38:31 You can be more specific that way to the training. You can be more specific that way to the training. For coaches, teams, et cetera. Now, the reason that I'm more married right now to wearing the ring than the hoop is I'm waiting for the delivery of another wristband that I can only handle so many things that I wrist before I start to look like a cat lady. So this thing is called a quantlet. And what it does is it cools the blood and irradiates the blood with a little bit of light,
Starting point is 00:38:54 kind of like that photo biomodulation thing that you were wearing. And it does that all through a bracelet that you wear. So you get the benefits of light and temperature. I interviewed a physician named Dr. Jack Cruz about this bracelet about a year and a half ago as they were under development. Well, they're shipping now. Hopefully at some point in the next couple of months, so I'll have this bracelet, which is why I didn't want to get too married to the whoop, because I know I'm going to have another bracelet coming that I'm going to be wearing all the time. So that one's called the quantlet, and that's basically using temperature and light to regulate
Starting point is 00:39:24 health. It's not a self-quantification bracelet, but I figure, no matter that, the ring in my watch, my arms are going to be heavy enough. Wow, awesome. My biceps are going to eat. Now, you're constantly competing and training for different events. Last time we talked to you, you had done an event where... Hunting one. Yeah, where you're, it's like an obstacle course and then you have to shoot at targets and for spears and which I think is fucking awesome. And really mimics ancestral hunting. That's why I outside right now,
Starting point is 00:39:51 you guys see like a bunch of ropes hanging from the trees and rigs and logs like this is where this is my training grounds. Well, I was just gonna ask you, are you, is there anything coming up? Are you training for anything in particular? What does your workouts look like now? I just signed a contract with Spartan and Reboat. Oh, did you?
Starting point is 00:40:04 I'm racing for the Spartan Pro team now? Oh? Shit congratulations all over NBC this year and and running up and down the hill So that that's really the main we have to come to a major Yeah, there's there's six if you go if you go to Google and you Google like NBC Spartan races You'll see the races so that's gonna be the the main thing for this year, but then I'll be Trying to defend my Idaho title for trained to hunt and trying to win nationals for that. That's the bow hunting, also racing competition. Explain Spartan.
Starting point is 00:40:33 What is Spartan races to some of our listeners? What does that look like? So you've seen like a tough mudder before, which is like a bunch of, but you go in kind of, a tough mudder is kind of like you have fun on that, right? Like it's a bunch of, you go through it with your friends and it's like you have amateur version.
Starting point is 00:40:44 Spartan is a race. It's timed and there's prizes and there's podiums. And I mean, it's a full on race where you're taking off and you might have 20 obstacles over the course of three miles where it's bar wire crawls and sandbag carries and wall climbs and rope climbs and you know, like that rig you saw when you came up in the dry where you have like a ring and a rope and a climbing ball, and then a numb chuck and a whole bunch of stuff you got to swing through like a gorilla, water swims, cold water plunges,
Starting point is 00:41:14 just like anything they want to throw at you over the core change of the resistance. And it might be three miles, it might be eight miles, world championships is like 13 and a half miles. So yeah, I mean, and what I like about it is I spent a decade competing in Iron Man triathlons. Once I got out of the bodybuilding, so in college I was a tennis player and I did bodybuilding
Starting point is 00:41:33 and I played Water Polo and just kind of experiment with a lot of explosive glycolic sports. But then I got into Iron Man because it is kind of similar to bodybuilding like a geekery sport, especially the nutrition part of things. It's a sport of attrition where you have to have the nutrition part of things figured out, you're just done.
Starting point is 00:41:49 Or you're done. You will see that. I'm like bodybuilding, it matters. And you see that matter. It matters how much you lift if you rip your shirt off on stage and you've been eating big Macs, you're gonna be embarrassed. You'll be strong, but embarrassed.
Starting point is 00:42:00 And similar to Iron Man, no matter how much you do, and how aerobically fit you are, and how denser your mitochondria are, if you don't figure out a way to crack the nut of hydration and nutrition during the race, you're screwed. And because I study a lot of nutrition in graduate and undergrad in college, I love to geek out on that stuff.
Starting point is 00:42:17 So I did about a decade of competing in Iron Man. The problem is that's a chronic repetitive motion sport, chock full of injuries and hormonal issues, because it is kind of unhealthy in terms of full body function. It's extremism. And so when I found obstacle course racing, I'm like, oh, hey, I can still kind of like
Starting point is 00:42:32 tap into that desire to have like something really tough from like a stamina standpoint. Something that really pushes the body as far as being able to last for long periods of time and kind of tap into nature, but at the same time, my body is moving in way more different directions. I'm also having to carry heavy stuff, move sideways, hoistings,
Starting point is 00:42:50 have surprises during, there's even a mental component, right? There's like memory stations where you gotta like run by it, memorize a series of letters and numbers, spit that out like six miles later. So yeah, I mean, it's kind of like full body, body and mind fitness. How many of these competitions will you do a year? So this year, I'll do six for first part in racing, which is a lot fewer than it. So in the past, I've done like a dozen races in a year, but I'm also launching a new company this year. So I need to be careful with with how much I'm traveling around.
Starting point is 00:43:17 Well, see, it's important to note, like if you're going to, first of all, these are extreme events and they're very, they can be very damaging on the body. If you're not careful, but you hack everything. I mean, you're really benefit from all these little things that you do to keep your body healthy. I mean, I disagree. You say so?
Starting point is 00:43:34 I do not, so the best guys on the planet and obstacle course racing, they're not sticking legs or legs up their nose or pulling down their pants in front of a ball like so a lot of that stuff that I do, it's for longevity. Everybody else. It's for sexual wellness and enjoying that part of life. It's for cognitive performance, right?
Starting point is 00:43:52 Well, that's what I mean. You're gonna minimize the damage. I could train like a beast, eat a bunch of eggs and sweet potatoes and do pretty well in spark racing. I don't have to stick to that. I'm glad you said that though. I think it's important to note that I think that a lot of the biohacking that you're doing is for different reasons, not like you.
Starting point is 00:44:07 It's true that to your success. It's for better living through science. It's for the fact that a lot of this stuff, it's very fun to be able, I mean, part of what I do, part of my stick, is I spend time in the trenches, figuring out what works and what doesn't. Not just for workouts and for, you know, crawling around the bar wire, but, you know, trying out the ball lights and, hey, does this actually work? Or what's the shockwave therapy do? Like, how do you feel after that? Or, you know, like we were talking about in the show, we just recorded for your guys' podcast.
Starting point is 00:44:32 You know, what happens when you blend a bunch of CBD with turmeric and black pepper and Rishi spores? Like, do you sleep well? Does it fuck up your deep sleep cycles? You know, and so, now I've got my sleep graph on my website. Oh, hey, this is a really good blend for sleep. It did all these cool things. So yeah, I mean, that's part of what I do. And a lot of it isn't because I'm convinced it's going to make me a better athlete, but there's a lot more to life than just pure performance. Well, what I found, and you mentioned this, and I think, I mean, when we think about podcasting,
Starting point is 00:45:03 we're babies compared to you. I mean, you're like 10 years deep into this. And I already see that happening with us. Like as more brilliant minds, we get a chance to hang out with us. We go further and further down. Yeah, we get, I go like, hey, I'm gonna dabble with this. And there's certain things that I apply
Starting point is 00:45:17 and I go, hey, that's something that has improved this. Like, I mean, and I notice even little things, like relationships, like the way I am with my partner, and the way I am with my family and friends, like, because I'm de-stressing, and I'm creating these better habits for myself. So I could see, and we've talked, I remember the first time we met you,
Starting point is 00:45:34 we were like, man, Ben is like, got all this crazy stuff, but fuck, dude, I can't imagine how many actually brilliant minds you've been around for the last 10 years podcasting. I'm sure that's what's gonna happen to us, because I see what happens after we have one good guest, like that little site right. And then there's some stuff that doesn't work.
Starting point is 00:45:49 Like you'll find out that the coconut oil foot electrocutor doesn't do shit. And that's one. That's okay. Okay, people send stuff to my, you guys probably already get this. Let's do this. As people send stuff to you and you're like,
Starting point is 00:46:01 this just does not work. And then you feel bad because they're like, oh, we want you to talk about us on your podcast. You know, but it didn't work. But we want to give you 3,000 bucks to talk about us on your podcast, but it didn't work. It doesn't fucking work. Can we cover the three worst things
Starting point is 00:46:18 that have ever been sent to you that you're just like, give me a cup of, I know, because we've gotten some shit. So I know you've definitely got some shit sent to you. Fibrating shake weights. There's a lot of stuff, but I'd have to say, some of the biggies, the gusters, just like a lot of it's supplements, right? All the supplements that you know,
Starting point is 00:46:38 or they're just crap. Anything that has the blue, FDNC, yellow number one, and all that jazz in it. Now do you teach your assistant to filter that out with like does she know how to filter that out before it even gets to you? Not usually I'm the final say on that stuff where I look at I'll be like others and I'll sometimes, sometimes she'll open stuff and she'll know right off the bat is just not something.
Starting point is 00:47:01 Yeah because she's been around with you a lot of times. She'll see exactly. She's a rage pump. Yeah. Exactly. the bad is just not something. Yeah, because she's been around with you a lot of times. She'll see exactly how he's like, he'll be like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like,
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Starting point is 00:47:18 he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he of it is honestly, like protein powders and meal replacement drinks and stuff like that that I've thrown out. But as far as actual strange gear and biohacky-like devices,
Starting point is 00:47:32 one, or one that maybe even got that like a full Jew that you thought maybe it was gonna be good and then you started using it and you're like, oh, this is a crock of shit, this is not good. Usually it's exercise devices that are supposed to be complete game changers when it comes to sports performance. I have a whole if you walk in in the office there's like a whole back session full of stuff that just doesn't work. Like for example, like these little wheels that are like training wheels for a bicycle attached to elastic cables, like elastic bands.
Starting point is 00:48:03 And you're supposed to like get into positions on the ground like roll them out to the side and roll them out to the front, roll elastic bands, and you're supposed to get into positions on the ground, like roll them out to the side, and roll them out to the front, roll them out to the back. And you can kind of see how this stuff might work on a very basic level, but then the marketing material that comes along with it is like, this is gonna be an Olympic athlete game changer. This is gonna be over a high finish.
Starting point is 00:48:21 This is the last thing that I'll ever need. For a fitness. What's another one that was really, really just kind of like a lot of these gimmicky made for TV. Totally. You got to get those. I know you had the craziest one when I was watching Spring Training Baseball. There was this guy that had, it was basically like these glasses that would flash.
Starting point is 00:48:42 So it had like a strobe effect in it. So they were trying to market it like it would slow the ball pattern down So you could recognize it as it was coming into the plate These guys that were wearing them they were hitting them and they were going everywhere like into the stands and like once they took it off It was just like they're so disoriented So there's one up in the bedroom that so this is the perfect example So it is a pulse to electromagnetic field device. So it emits certain frequencies, which I'm all, there's been some really interesting studies
Starting point is 00:49:14 on PEMF for bone density, for example, in stimulating osteoclast activity. And these are actually PubMed peer reviewed studies that have shown increased rate of bone healing. I've used PEMF devices, for example, for sleep before where you'll put it over your brachial plexus, for example, and it'll stimulate nerve endings in the brachial plexus and cause a little bit of an EEG change in the brain in terms of like your delta brainwave production for where you sleep.
Starting point is 00:49:38 This one you place next to your bedstand and the idea, bear with me here, is that certain organs will vibrate at certain frequencies. This is based on Chinese herbal medicine and isiurvedic medicine where your liver vibrates at a certain frequency and your heart is a certain frequency. So you set this PMF device next to your bedstand and broadcast certain frequencies. So last night, for example, I said it on the love frequency. So you build up your feelings of trust and love and feel good or get ready for your sleep. And then I pushed play.
Starting point is 00:50:12 Now, I'm not going to badmouth it yet because I haven't tested how much love I have today. Or like my heart rate. I'll give I feel a little lovey to it. So I'll give it a fair hug. You have a little bit. I've been humping legs right and left. But that's an example of something that, it's an example of something that arrives,
Starting point is 00:50:32 I'm like, what the hell is this? What's it supposed to, so it's got like, I can set it for trust or willpower or love. Or in a pair of, like if you wave it over your colon, it causes like a near instantaneous dump of all waste matter out of your body. So that's an example of something. Now you did use one of those stomach massages, which I've heard that actually does work.
Starting point is 00:50:53 For inducing peristalsists, using any type of vibration tool moved in a clockwise motion, following the motion of your colon. So from the top, across, down, over, and down, right? Like the way that your large intestine travels through your body, that can induce peristals. I mean, you have that in the morning before you drink a cup of coffee. Yeah, nice poop.
Starting point is 00:51:13 You poop like a baby. Like there's a device called a myobuddy that I have up in the kitchen, that out like when the coffee's on, I'll sometimes take that and just like vibrate across, down, over, and down. Just following the path of the large intestine. And you like, especially especially when you're traveling,
Starting point is 00:51:26 if you have the ability to do like self-massage when you get like travelers' constipation, stuff like that, it works really well. Oh, I bet. And then you get your squatting potty, then this is excellent. I'm coming over here for the most epic shit. That's right.
Starting point is 00:51:36 It's right. I need to bounce house for the most epic shit of your life's possible. Exactly. And there is a stainless steel end of my kit and there's somewhere if you want to. You got everything. Excellent.
Starting point is 00:51:45 No, I actually am, and I know we're running up against time here, but I actually am giving myself an anima right now as we were talking. No, I'm serious, they make. What? No, I use a glutathione and coffee-based implantable suppository. You put in your butt a fuck out of it
Starting point is 00:52:02 to get all the effects of glutathione production Get the fuck out of my own video. It's called a I want to see this but no, it's it's you guys have you know don't prove it, please so suppos it's a Suppository based coffee and glutathione anima and I have one inside of me right any any excuse to put But no this this like you put it up there. You're not supposed to poop it back out like it just kind of dissolves in there. And it's like like men. So the old here's one other that I don't know if you guys have tried it.
Starting point is 00:52:32 So you're in Washington state though. And you have access to a cornucopia of dispensaries. You could try this to we support the HC suppository if you tried this. No, I would think that would hit like you like it. It's like you do a T. H. C. suppository. You hit. It's like an H. If you do a THC repository, you're gonna high THC capsule, you get high fast,
Starting point is 00:52:48 but it's a localized high for your crotch. You do this before sex, it's freaking amazing. You do it about 20 to 30 minutes. Right, actually it stays localized. Right, right, right, right. You know, we're gonna buy some. You'll still get a little bit high for the brain,
Starting point is 00:53:02 because as Sal just alluded to, you get that colonic mucusal delivery across the blood, but you also get a localized high for your crotch. So you take a couple of these TLC capsules, usually they come in 10 MG portions, and you just shove them up your butt before you have sex. Forgot amazing.
Starting point is 00:53:16 I feel like 10 or 8 are an 8 and 8. I wanna go to it. I feel like the very active, you have your girl over and you're like, hey honey, this is totally gonna make us have better sex. We need to start by having me put something up your butt. I feel like that alone takes, like you have your girl over and you're like, Hey honey, this is totally gonna make us have better sex. We need to start by having me put something up your butt. I feel like that alone takes it to the next level. They also make a really good cream called Bond.
Starting point is 00:53:32 It's a THC infused sex lube, and there's a company else, yeah, that makes that stuff. It's really. That's fucking off the really good. As usual, we have learned a lot. You could put a lot of, uh, you said the facial cream. Yeah, one of our, one of our audiences favorite guests. Oh, it's not a nervous switch.
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