Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 576: Bringing Symmetry to Different-Sized Muscles, Deloading, Overcoming Fear of Change & MORE
Episode Date: August 18, 2017Kimera-Quah! In this episode of Quah, sponsored by Kimera Koffee (kimerakoffee.com, code "mindpump" for 10% off), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about why humans fear change even if lif...e sucks, transitioning from bodybuilding to functional training, deloading and how to correct two arms that are different-sized. Sal/Adam talk about a recent trip to LA / Adam loses train of thought (3:04) Tom Bilyeu Luke Storey Jay Ferruggia LA Style Christina Rice Justin talks about updating the website / His big meeting (19:55) Sal/Adam talk about Uber driver that nearly killed them (21:24) Talk about Tom Bilyeu’s mansion (24:15) Sal talks about the probiotic from Organifi / Adam using Brain.fm (31:00) Quah question #1 – Why we do we as humans fear change? (34:18) Comfort Security Need to “re-frame” your mindset Quah question #2 – Any suggestions for 6’2”, 250 lb. bodybuilder trying to transition into functional fitness? (47:46) Mental Don’t attach yourself to the way you look MAPS Prime S.A.I.D principle - Specific Adaptation to Imposed Demands Quah question #3 – What do you think about deload weeks and do you implement them into your own routines? (59:03) Should be scheduled when you hit a peak Quah question #4 – Both arms are the same strength, but left-arm significantly smaller than right. Have you seen this before? What can he do? (1:07:09) Unilateral movements Modify exercises Trigger sessions on the smaller arm Build up frequency Would you like to be coached by Sal, Adam & Justin? You can get 30 days of virtual coaching from them for FREE at www.mindpumpmedia.com. Get our newest program, MAPS Prime Pro, which shows you how to self assess and correct muscle recruitment patterns that cause pain and impede performance and gains. Get it at www.mindpumpmedia.com! Get MAPS Prime, MAPS Anywhere, MAPS Anabolic, MAPS Performance, MAPS Aesthetic, the Butt Builder Blueprint, the Sexy Athlete Mod AND KB4A (The MAPS Super Bundle) packaged together at a substantial DISCOUNT at www.mindpumpmedia.com. Make EVERY workout better with MAPS Prime, the only pre-workout you need… it is now available at mindpumpmedia.com Have Sal, Adam & Justin personally train you via video instruction on our YouTube channel, Mind Pump TV. Be sure to Subscribe for updates. Get your Kimera Koffee at www.kimerakoffee.com, code "mindpump" for 10% off! Get Organifi, certified organic greens, protein, probiotics, etc at www.organifi.com Use the code “mindpump” for 20% off. Go to foursigmatic.com/mindpump and use the discount code “mindpump” for 15% off of your first order of health & energy boosting mushroom products. Add to the incredible brain enhancing effect of Kimera Koffee with www.brain.fm/mindpump 10 Free sessions! Music for the brain for incredible focus, sleep and naps! Also includes 20% if you purchase! Please subscribe, rate and review this show! Each week our favorite reviewers are announced on the show and sent Mind Pump T-shirts! Have questions for Mind Pump? Each Monday on Instagram (@mindpumpradio) look for the QUAH post and input your question there. (Sal, Adam & Justin will answer as many questions as they can)
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In this episode of Mind Pump.
You've been doing that, like, trying to hit everybody on the high note.
I'm trying to get my voice like you're-
Yeah!
For the first 30 minutes, we do our typical chit chat.
Me and Adam, chit and chat, went alone on an LA adventure.
Oh yeah.
And he missed me miserably.
Find out in this episode if we killed each other
or if we became closer.
Then we talk about Adam's train of thought
and how he lost his train of thought.
His methods that he does to cover it.
It was brilliant.
We talk about how he almost died in an Uber.
We talk about Tom Bill use Beverly Hills Mansion.
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The first question is, why do humans fear change
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Then we talk about a six foot two, 215 pound bodybuilder
who's trying to make the transition from bodybuilding.
Adam wrote his own question in here.
Into functional training, we give him advice
on how to do that.
Then we ask the question about de-load weeks.
What are those and when should you implement them
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Dude, when we were at the Tom Billi's event or whatever,
and we're meeting people, and I'm like,
hey, let me get your number
because I'm trying to get contacts and stuff, right?
And Adam's just jumping and he's like,
yeah, he wants to send you dick pics.
I'm like, wow.
First time these guys do a comic.
I can see that dude.
I don't see it when you're in hands. So don't send these guys dick you. I can see that dude. I don't see it when you're in his hands.
He said, don't send these guys dick pics.
I know that works sometimes, but they started dying laugh.
And they're like, no, go ahead, send them bro.
I'm like, I don't want to waste your data.
Oh my God.
But, but, uh, people must have loved you guys.
No, dude, we had a, uh, God, what a productive, short, slammed trip we had.
It was like, it gave me a little taste of back in the days working at 24 dude.
It was like this.
Staffed.
Same hustle.
Same hustle.
Yeah, we showed up.
We went straight, bro.
The plain lands back then it was a fedra.
That's what kept us going.
Yeah, exactly.
The plane lands, we drive immediately
from the airport to the first interview,
which was Luke's podcast.
We get on that one.
It's late by the time we get home,
go to sleep, wake up, go to a ATM.
Well, they have a speaking of Luke,
so we'll run you through what that was like, right?
We get there and he's got a videographer.
He's streaming this live on Instagram and Facebook.
Simon Tate says,
Oh dude, he's going crazy with this camera's everywhere.
Yeah, I don't know if you guys looked
at his Instagram one but it was clean.
He actually dug, you gotta check this out on Amazon
for the iPhone and for the iPad,
you can put these little, they're only like,
Oh, it only like a
Microphone extension or so microphone extension and a lens extension so shoot and you just put it over the the iPhone
And you just put it over the iPad that's cool, and it gives you like this better shot and it loses the fashion guy
The lifestyleist podcast. Yeah, and he for sure was and he's not a he's not a
Kind of fashion and you do he did it was fashion it was close close. I thought he was a hairstylist
When we first read up on him and I didn't and I didn't realize that till like after we've been talking about you
You could tell though when you go into his house
A herosexual hairstylist. Yeah, one of the oh no
Well, he was only one of the few heterosexual wardrobe stylists. He said yeah
I see but we get to his house and it's
You can tell he's got impeccable style wardrobe stylist, he said. He's one of the few ones. But we get to his house and it's,
you can tell he's got impeccable style.
There's nude photos of women all over the walls,
everywhere, and on the...
It's awesome.
On his coffee table, there was the big book of breasts.
Yeah.
How I saw that in your Insta story.
He's got a thing going on.
But anyway, we're doing his podcast,
we're having a good time.
It's probably one of my favorite moments podcasting ever.
At the moment, I don't realize what happened.
That's how good Adam was.
You're gonna tell these guys this?
I have to tell them about your brilliant.
Yeah, okay, we'll call that.
You are, dude, you're very good at this.
I did not realize what you were doing
until after when you told me that I couldn't stop laughing.
So Adam's talking, he's telling his story,
and I can't wait till the podcast comes out because now people will know. As he's telling the story, Adam's talking, he's telling his story, and I can't wait to the podcast comes out
because now people will know.
As he's telling his story, he's talking, right?
So he's like blah, blah, blah, blah, and he goes, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh So I just took over right like oh here and I gave Adam my water. I gave him my water and I took over
Yeah, and Adam's like oh, I'm sorry. I don't know what just happened right?
Hmm that's at the end of the podcast we go back to the hotel and Adam's like dude he goes I lost my trip
I thought see cough your way out
Yeah, he pretend like he choked on it's a good move
But I bought into it so much that I thought that's what happened. I'm like oh fuck. Here's my water, dude you okay
bought into it so much that I thought that's what happened. I'm like, oh, fuck, here's my water, dude, you okay?
You're happy?
After that, we learned that, you know, salad.
We have a signal now.
We have to start sneezing.
We have to have a signal to try that.
I have this thing, right?
When we're in here, and this rarely ever happens
when all three of us together,
because with all three of us,
someone always has something to say.
So it's rarely ever, but I do notice this
when there's just two of us,
it changes the dynamic, right?
Totally.
So there is moments where one of us is carrying
the conversation longer than we normally would.
And I've told Sal, there's times where I'm talking,
and I lose my triathlon, and I'm still feeling dead space.
And I'm trying to give him a look with my eyes.
Is that awkward now?
I've experienced the same thing being on Josh Trent trends episode. It was just like this dead space
I was like so uncomfortable with it that I had to like I was like immediately thinking of things to fill with it
You know like trying to get involved because I'm like no no no no no don't let this happen right
No, yeah, that's what I was and I'm giving Sal like this this look like I'm looking in his eyes like trying to like tell him like
And you know subconsciously I'm trying to tell him trying to use telepathy
I'm like talking but I'm like looking like bro. I don't know where I'm going right now
Give me the wrap-up music
Yeah
Just as you're talking
Yeah, I think it's better because you'll just do this while you're talking. You're just talking.
I think it's cool.
That's a good one.
That's a good one.
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That's a good one. That's a good one. That's a good one. That's a good one. That's a good one. What happens is I think, because this has happened to me, it doesn't happen when we podcast.
I usually don't lose, I don't think I've lost my
triathlete talking on the podcast, but it's happened
on video for me.
And what happens is, and I've identified what happens,
when I'm talking about video, you and I talked about
this afterwards.
Yeah, I'll be talking on video, and then I'll start
listening to myself talk and analyzing my own
conversation.
That's what I do.
And that's when I get fucked up.
That's what I do.
Talking, I've had to work my way through that.
No, you can't do that.
Don't listen to yourself talking,
which is now that I said that everyone's
gonna start doing that.
You have to just be in the moment
because the second you start analyzing yourself,
then you'll get, you lose it.
You'll lose it and you know what's funny?
This is what's happened.
This is what happens to people who get anxious
when they're talking to people and they're in crowds.
So if you ever talk to somebody who's like,
oh my God, I get so anxious when I go to parties,
when you kind of boil it down,
that's what they do,
as they're talking to an individual,
they'll start listening to themselves talk
and then they'll start to feel,
yeah, and then they'll get really awkward.
Yeah, you know what I mean?
I used to be horrible at that.
You did?
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
One of my biggest problems I had to overcome.
I feel like you do that sometimes when you tell stories.
Absolutely, I do that.
I feel like I could see your head.
I feel like you could see your will spinning like,
where are we going with this?
In my head, the story was so much cooler in my head.
And right now I'm not taking it, I'm not delivering it the way I know.
Mix them shit up.
Throw some boobies in there.
Oh my god.
So the clown came out of the closet. I Throw some movies in there. Oh my god
So so the clown came out of the closet. Ah, so then the next morning we met with
Jason Fruja of Renegade radio and did his podcast. It's great. Cool. I've been meeting to meet that guy
Yeah, you know, he'd been on our radar and I told him that and I'm pretty sure it was you who introduced his podcast to me when we first started podcasting
You pointed him out. I remember you were listening to him in Joe Rogan
You're like listen this guy some of stuff he covers. Yeah, yeah, it was him and Mike mallard and kind of that crowd
Yeah, they all they all were kind of like in that. Well, he's tied all these athletes
We thought I mean he's trained all kinds of pro athletes his connection to the trainers out
I mean he has some pretty cool connects with some of these.
Joe DeFranco, right?
Yes, because he used to work on the East Coast, right?
Yes, and then he was, he started off as a major blogger.
So, I mean, most of his business has come from internet marketing and his email list and blogging.
So, we got, the podcast was a later transition for him.
So he was bigger, more successful,
even before the podcast,
that you introduced me to him through the podcast.
And a great guy, very similar philosophies,
very similar stories like us,
is we kind of learn the hard way,
doing a lot of stuff the wrong way,
and then through digging in through the science ourselves
have found like the
right information and he's trying to get that out there. So I mean, we definitely saw
eye to eye on almost every conversation we talked about and was just good dialogue,
good-ass dude, bad-ass place, right on Santa Monica.
Oh, he's right. Like, you can see the beach from his balcony. You can throw a rock and
hit the sand. Nice. And it's just which by the way way that beach was court because after we finished with him we had like a
two hour break before moving on to the next podcast and we were walking along the beach
and I mean I know why people live there now you know what I mean it's just it's fucking
gorgeous.
It's almost worth all the shitty ass traffic.
Just for that moment.
And fucking weirdos.
Yeah of that.
We're walking on that that pathway at 75 degrees wage crashing, beautiful white sand.
Can we just talk about that though?
The L.A. style?
A little bit, it's a little pretentious.
A little, it's a little pretentious.
The fucking dude at the hotel is helping us,
he's got a full on mullet,
but he's trying to make it look cool
and everybody's got fucking weird,
colorful shoes and all the very hipster.
And I'm like, oh God, I love it.
Yeah, it's like, it's like Adam everywhere.
Oh, it's not.
I have my own style, not like that.
That's what it was, I have my own flavor.
That's where, it reminded me of the whole hotel just felt weird.
I mean, there was definitely celebrity coming in and out.
Of course, you know, Brianna set us up in a nice place.
It was the Lux hotel, so shout out to them
because they do have a nice spot.
They do.
Great service, great food, everything there.
We are pretty happy with.
I don't think there was anything we weren't happy with.
There's something you know what?
The menu, the fucking room service menu
could have been a little bit better.
Other than that.
You guys sleep in the same bed.
We did.
They were trying to save money that way.
Well, no, there were two beds in the room
But I see but yeah, he doesn't like to sleep alone
I don't know how to sleep alone. Sal gets cold. Yeah, that's exactly so I I get myself nuzzled underneath his
Doesn't matter. I was yeah, I was big sprue which is all that matters
We got established that and that was a fork
We got to establish that. And that was a fork.
He had a fork.
So,
So, and then we went and then we met with a smaller podcast,
Christina Rice.
What's the name of actually adultish?
It's a small podcast.
She's a 22 year old girl, very sweet girl,
little fucking hustler.
I'm a little closer.
I loved her.
I loved her.
I was so. I really liked her. She was out. I loved her. I was so I really liked her
She was out of the the entire trip
A one-man show dude. She's doing all these different things and she's got the woman
So it's a it's a it's a saying. Yeah
No, I think that
I mean I what we what we got when we saw, I expected because I knew more about him and, you know, so I was excited
But I wasn't surprised, right? I wasn't surprised. I was gonna like him. I kind of felt like I was gonna like this dude
I would have been more surprised if we didn't hit it off. Yeah
New a little bit about the stylist guy heading over to see Luke like those guys had a good time
But she was to me the the biggest surprise because we almost work and i have we barely squeeze that in because of our
schedule
she and that was a fan
uh... or at least yes yes she's a big time listener
and
man she won she had great questions
she interviewed great
she brought us cookies
k
actually credit for that
paleo, keto.
I would have been in the middle.
Keto-friendly cookies, man, that were bomb.
Yeah, well.
And she's a food blogger.
She's got several pages that have a pretty decent reach
and she's doing this all in her own.
Like it was, it was a pleasure.
She has, she had all her respect game.
She had Doug's like lighting setup.
She's got the computer setup for her podcasting,
so she's doing all her own videos,
all her own photos, all her own audio stuff.
She's got multiple Instagram pages,
she started it all through a blog.
She's starting a new podcast on her own.
Jess graduated from U.S. UCLA, 22 years old,
and she introduced us.
She introduced us to this genre of people that I just was unaware of.
There's a whole food blogger world out there on the internet. And it's she says it's fucked up.
She's like, that's what motivated her to start her podcast is she goes, it is crazy.
And then she goes, why I was so excited to have you guys on here because I wanted you guys to speak to my audience. They I needed them to hear it from you was so many of these girls that are doing the
same type of stuff.
I am which is posting pictures of recipes and food and you know, blogging about it.
And these girls get these large following because they post food and recipes.
And then all sudden they become fitness experts and they start telling people how to work
out.
And she goes, the advice they're giving is horrific.
Most of them have major eating disorders.
And it was, which was crazy because it sounded just like the bodybuilding world
and what we talk about on here so much.
So, and she says it's a large community.
There's a ton of these large pages that are foodies that blog about food and recipes.
And most of them have a very
poor relationship with food exercising themselves.
It kind of makes sense though if you think about it, right?
It makes a lot of sense.
They're so obsessed with food and it's probably because there's to have a bad relationship
with it.
But it was mind blowing though because I had not met somebody who's living in that world,
right?
So when she said it was like duh, right? I mean, when she said it was like duh.
I mean, when she said it, I felt like,
of course, it makes a lot of sense.
Well, it's huge popular.
You see them all over the place,
like all these accounts that all they do
is they post like beautiful picture of food
and, you know, ways to kind of
skirt around the amount of sugar
that's in this or, you know,
like, and that kind of turns into advice
to lose weight. Well, that's what she was saying. know, like, and then that kind of turns into advice to lose weight.
I do see that. Well, that's what she was saying. She's saying that these food bloggers,
poo-posts, beautiful pictures of food and make awesome dishes will then get popular,
you know, like at 30, 40, 50,000 followers. And the next thing you know, they become wellness
experts. And she's like, and they're not. They'll post their workouts and their diets,
and she's like, they're horrendous. And so she was asking us a lot of questions around that. And you know, it's again, she's just a just this little entrepreneurial hustler,
which I love. And of course, as when me and Adam leave, we're like, hmm, like she can come
for us at some point. Well, I was, man, it's impressive. I love seeing that. I love seeing that.
Yeah, I can always tell like when we go into an interview like this,
like the skills at the level of the interview
are like how good they are what they do.
And she was probably the most impressive.
I was really impressed.
She was one of the better,
one of the better podcasts.
Yeah, because of,
I mean, there was never dead air and,
and Sal and I tend to do this.
And I don't know if we do this subconsciously or intentionally,
but we'll be like going
on a rant and we'll be talking about something and then we'll like, boom, just shut it off.
And those that are really, and it fucks, yeah, the interviewer was like, whoa, you see they're
so again, they're listening and they're so much as a conversation and then scrambling to
get that next question.
Right.
And then there's also this little bit of a, well, so you know, you know, and then they ask
a question, right?
Where that never happened with her.
And we did that multiple times to her.
And I thought she carried herself,
incredible, I thought she did great, man.
And at the only 22 and handling of that was so impressed.
So impressed with her.
I'm curious.
And we'll definitely,
we will be tracking her and paying attention to what she's doing
because I think she's got a great, but she's getting ready to start a second podcast. So she's about to roll two-pog. Yeah, no,
and she have a significant other like no, we didn't ask about her personal life to be honest,
completely honest, sal did very little homework
on her heading into the interview,
but afterwards, because we were so impressed,
we started giving through all of this.
Yeah, I was like,
because I didn't know what to expect.
And, you know,
and then when we got there and realized
how much of this that she was managing
and doing herself,
we both were like,
dude, this girl.
She was the best one.
I only asked that because, you know,
like if she's like on fire like that,
like I wonder what, you know,
if she's getting support with that,
or if she's like all on her own, just just killing her.
She's on her own, dude.
Yeah, she's on her own.
She's fucking hustling.
That's great.
I really respect that, especially when I see
somebody that age doing it,
because most kids, you know, that age are, you know,
they're not that motivated.
No, they're not.
And that's just normal.
It was like that when we were kids
too
So I'll stop like this current generation
Were you in the room just now too before we started pocket when I told you her background when it was what she was what she was doing before this
Okay, so she was
Basically what Brianna is for us
For a blogger so she was like big L.A. blogger. Yeah for a big L.A. blogger
So she was constantly setting the interviews up and you know, that's why me and Adam were thinking like,
oh shit, she could, yeah, at some point connections.
Help us out.
Who knows, who knows.
But yeah, pretty cool.
What did you guys do?
What were we gone for?
You guys were bored, huh?
Yeah, sorry.
I just moped around.
Yeah, I'm like, oh, oh, yeah, I know.
I miss you.
It was all I coulda looked at pillow.
It was all quiet in settled up to a pillow.
It was all quiet in here.
Yeah.
We got so much work to do.
We were fucking productive as hell.
Probably.
Yeah, we all kind of split off and worked separately
and then connected.
I think Taylor and between Doug Taylor and myself,
like kind of addressing things with YouTube
but mainly just working on the website
and we're still really like trying to get that thing overhauled and updated and refreshed. So
that's often running now, right? Is that?
Yeah, I mean the wheels are turning. Yeah, exactly. The wheels are turning that and
obviously I have my big meeting and all that kind of stuff that we kind of alluded to.
And so yeah, so all good things and good energy, you know, but it's,
it was definitely different, man was it was quiet in here. It was it was different just me and Adam
You know without anybody else either which weird is we don't really argue when it's just you and I
Factor there and maybe it might be you might be Doug
When other people around we fucking you know we get angry. Oh, I agree I agree agree I agree
See that's what mine pump would be without me you understand. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, you're handsome. You're handsome. I agree I agree I agree I agree
I agree what a boring show
Like cluster fuck yeah, it was all we were all friends
I'm gonna challenge you guys
We had a new driver almost kill us
Yeah, dude, oh no fucking what we were in. We had a new driver almost kill us. What? Yeah, dude.
Oh no, fuck the Russian, the Russian driver.
Oh my god.
This is like super aggressive.
Bro, he drove across four lanes of traffic.
Drove straight across and stopped.
Perpendicular to the traffic, right?
Cars are fucking beaming towards us.
Maybe that's what he has to do though.
Down there, you know, that's crazy. Bro, I don't't get fuck he he got stuck. Okay, so imagine right it's a four four lanes to going this way
To go in the opposite way and he's crossing us
Through this and he stops in the middle of it. Oh my god. So cars are going this way at us and this way at us
And he's not moving like literally put, Pooa slam on the brakes,
laying on the horn, and sound like we just,
we got, just got it, and that was the first move.
He picked us up from the hotel.
So there's a cross four lanes,
and we both kind of look at you,
and they're like, okay.
This is gonna be the end.
But you gave him a good rating.
I didn't give him any rating.
So, I know.
I know what he gave him a one.
Fuck him.
I feel guilty about doing that.
Why is a shitty, what do you mean?
Well, he's a business owner.
He's a shitty fucking driver.
Yeah, it's tough.
And the guy that dropped us off over here
almost took off with our luggage.
Yeah, that was funny.
Yeah, he's fucking.
He's sitting on the car.
We're like, stone.
I feel like the only reason I want to share this
is because I've heard so many like, you know,
stroke off stories of Uber.
Oh, Uber, Uber.
Everything's so Uber good. So we have that, we, this trip, because this was the off stories of Uber. Everyone, oh, Uber, Uber. I mean, so Uber good. I had an experience.
So we have had, we, this trip,
because this was the first time, by the way,
this was the smart, it may be the smartest call,
because, you know, Brianna was like, okay,
do you guys want me to set you up with your, you know,
like you normally do, or we rent a car?
I'm like, and I'm like, yeah, I'm like, salad, I?
Oh, my Jesus Christ, this could be,
that could be what it is. It hasn't been in Mexico. Right, I was like, Saladai? Oh my Jesus Christ, that could be wholesome.
That's even in Mexico.
I was like, you know what, let's just,
I got the Uber app on there and I'll put the company
better.
It was cheaper too if we calculated.
I think it was, I think, because we,
I mean, we did end up having to take, you know,
but six or seven Ubers during the whole trip.
So, you know, we used it quite a, but man,
it was, it was,
it was very efficient as far as time and scheduling
and keeping it easy for Sal and I to not get fucking lost
and all over each other.
I think that's why we didn't actually get
at each other's throat because I could have,
if we were, as crunched as we were for time,
there was never time to fuck around.
We had to get from one place.
Oh yeah, you can imagine the fights you guys would have had
as like, somebody was driving and getting lost.
I would have been so mad at him.
Because he's the worst navigator.
Yeah, that's true.
Worst.
He claimed shock, guys.
He's also sleeping immediately.
All the way to the floor.
He calls shotgun all the time and then fucking closes his eyes.
Not even getting a deny it.
Right, I'm getting worse.
Yeah, not even getting a deny it.
Yeah.
Actually, I'm first placed in that contest.
And then I'm driving and texting.
So between the two, I mean, we would have been,
it would have been more.
I'm the best at being the worst in that position.
And then we went to Tom Bill use house.
Fucking my whole life.
What did it look like?
A haul and drive.
It's a 10 million, basically, it's a massive rematch.
That's a gas, I'm all holding.
I just, that's what a fucking supplement company will buy you.
Oh, boom.
We pull up and there's, we get dropped out by Uber
and we're walking down the driveway.
There's three,
Valley.
Valle guys there to Valle, people's cars when you get there.
You walk through and it's a mansion
to fucking on Mojol and drive and it's at the top.
So it's viewing like, it's the gotta view of LA.
It's the Catalina Island in the ocean.
Like it's just, it's gorgeous.
And. But he set up his whole house to view of LA. It's set of Catalina Island in the ocean. Like it's just, it's gorgeous. And.
But he set up his whole house to, for work.
No way Katrina would fly for this.
Oh really?
No, dude, his, nobody, no one, no one, no one's
wise or girls would fly for this.
His set, this whole,
this whole,
dude, his whole recording set is in his,
what would be I guess a living room?
I don't know.
And then he's setting up another set somewhere else.
And I mean, it is a massive house,
but could you imagine like you wake up in the morning like boom work wires cameras everywhere. Yeah, no
It's and he has got dude. He's all in Doug all and he's mr. All Doug would have been masturbating everywhere
That's all just walks it. I mean, bro. He had cables this thick, you know like
Bro, he had cables this thick, you know, like, I have cables for your TVs and cameras that I,
he just imagined what kind of power they gotta be putting out
for cables that they kinda want.
I don't think you're necessarily judged.
I feel like you can.
The effectiveness by the,
why would you need that thing for once?
I think I can, is that a fair assumption?
I mean, the thicker the wire, the more power
we're probably trying to run through this motherfucker,
I mean, is that a fair assumption?
It's more than two-twice.
It's probably fair.
Right.
Honestly, I don't know.
It's, you know, if you got a big bulge in your pants, good chance you're packing, dude.
If you don't, probably not too much.
I got some power down there.
You can't get it up then, you're screwed.
He had a room, okay?
Dedicate.
Doug would have loved this too.
Like, dedicated to, he had three of the biggest...
Those are like a control room where you're just you're just controlling the
cameras and what angles and all that shit live. Wow. And they're
streaming on all platforms like right right there. And you can
control all of it and it all as as it's going live. So it's I mean,
he had a yet a 15 person team. I mean, it reminded me a lot.
I mean, he's a movie center.
It was like a 15-cent.
Well, his visions, what he's doing for his company,
I feel there's so many parallels to what we're doing.
Like, when we talk, I love talking to him
off-camera and error, where we could talk business
and behind the scene stuff.
And a lot of where he's going, what he's trying to do,
is very similar to what we are only,
we're more niche because it's our fitness right.
And talking to him is just fascinating like where what he's got planned and what he's
doing inside that place.
I just don't I don't I couldn't my girl would never go for it is 80% business in the
home.
I mean you got we walk in and there's there's 15 people.
Although I mean you could write off you're probably good chunk of your house, right?
I wonder if the company bought the house.
If you have a fucking Maholin Drive house,
you're not really worrying about a tax write-off
by having people in the house.
I think you're looking at a tax write-off more
because his company may have bought the house.
He may have used it specifically for business
and live in there, you know what I'm saying?
I don't know.
Anyway, it was cool.
That's a stretch. So you got to get the talk to him, a good amount after like behind the scenes. and live in there. You know what I'm saying? I don't know. Anyway, it was cool.
So you got to get the talk to him, a good amount,
after like behind the scenes.
We got to hang out with him,
and then they had this whole panel
that we're talking about this new product,
which we're gonna interview.
We'll save all that for the podcast of them.
But Dr. Drew was there, which was cool.
And then, let me tell you too,
he, out of everybody in that time,
there's probably 40, 50 people in the audience.
There was six people in the panel and then there was a bunch of other people working there,
right? I would say, Dr. Drew, it was really cool to see him on the whole thing.
He just so charismatic, not easy to intelligent, such a salesman too. Just working the room.
He's been in the game for a long time.
And he saved it though, dude.
He did.
There's times where sound I were like,
we're sitting there and we're like kind of like side chattering
and stuff's going on like, I would have totally asked this.
I would have challenged this.
Or oh god, that didn't say, why did she say that?
Or why did he say that?
And drew every time.
What we were thinking or saying about, oh, that was a very small like he would totally cover for that person
And the way he did it was so smooth and I was like God there's there is a a TV celebrity like
Like at its at his work. You just see a performer. Yeah, you could see it ironed out all the rough spots. Yes
people and very very smooth
So that performer and then and then one of my mean, one of the most brilliant minds alive today,
Dr. V. S. Ramashandran,
which a lot of people don't,
if you don't know Neural Science or you're not in that world,
you don't know who he is,
but there's a lot of very fascinating YouTube
and TED talks that he's conducted.
He's the inventor of the mirror box
that solved the problem of phantom limb,
which I've talked about on the show.
Brilliant, brilliant man.
So he was on there, I got to shake his hand,
which was like, fuck, I'm cool now.
You wanna know something funny too,
like talk about like when you're in the presence
of someone like that brilliant.
So imagine this, he's on a live thing on a panel, right?
And he's like the, the scientists on that panel.
Now there's other guys that were brilliant doctors
and minds on there, but like, you know,
he, a lot of this stuff is from his research,
his original research,
dude's just absolutely brilliant.
He's like, you got a pen and paper the whole time
and he's like,
writing and stuff.
I'm like, what is he doing taking notes with it?
Well afterwards we're talking to Tom
and he's like, oh yeah, like, he won't just sit at a panel like that and just engage and I'm like, what is he doing taking notes? Well, afterwards we're talking to Tom, and he's like, oh yeah, like he won't just sit at a panel like that,
and just engage and be present.
Like he is constantly like working equations and things out.
So why they're on a live feed, you can see him,
and he's like working, he's like working out formulas.
He's like, a shrain man.
Yeah, totally, like he'd say, and then then you,
every once in a while they would like call on him
and be like, and then he would answer whatever, you know,
and even like the way he answered was so different
than everybody else.
Like everybody else you could tell was, you know,
there was a little bit of a bias.
Yeah, but he was very much like what a,
what a scientist with high integrity would say.
So when someone asked a question like,
is this perfectly safe, you know,
someone selling a product, they're like, yes, it's perfectly safe? You know, someone selling a product
and they're like, yes, this is perfectly safe.
And he's answering like, well, we don't,
we don't, all we can't never know
if it's perfectly safe.
But the research show, so far shows this and that.
Like, he's just a, a pure scientist,
which again, highly respected individual.
Great guy.
Yeah, cool to watch that.
And Tom was a great host, man.
Had a good time.
I'm not a big fan of traveling so much,
but I don't mind doing, and it's funny.
I like traveling in the sense that I'd go in places
and being there, but I hate the process of it all,
and I really hate the eating.
I hate eating out.
Oh, yeah, that's tough.
Cause it fucks me up dude.
It fucks up my stomach, but.
You guys take any stuff with you?
Dude, so I switched out my old probiotic
for the Organifi one a while ago and I've been using it.
And it's one of the best ones I've ever used.
Like my gut was totally fine.
We ate out, we didn't eat bad, I ate healthy.
I did have a little bit of bread
which normally would mess me up.
And my gut's pretty good as a result.
So I'll tell you, it's a game change.
I did not have my subs or any of that with me,
but what I, we had a break before Tom.
So we did the two interviews in the morning
and then we had Tom in the evening.
We had about a two and a half hour window
and I laid down, put the brain FM in and the meditation.
And I didn't know, you said I was snoring, huh?
I didn't know.
You snored every fucking night.
And I don't snore, right?
I was never sure if I'm wrong,
I'm gonna exhaust it.
I really love it.
You shared a room and I definitely snored, too.
So I think the combo,
like when you drown each other out.
Bro, it's the sowing wood all fucking night.
Of course.
I was exhausted.
And Katrina will tell you,
like if I'm exhausted back,
that's it.
Yeah, I saw this one back for sure
But you know it was pretty crazy though
It was the brain FM though. I had this knocked him out. Yeah, I've knocked out for like 30 minutes came to and just felt so
Refresh was like oh thank you brain FM that saved my heart out
Oh, yeah, then I went ahead my little bath and then I was yeah
Yeah, yeah, they took a bath
It's all literally he gets up and he's like, I'm going to go take a
draw for him.
So I'm going to go and candle.
Which, you know what?
He's like, I'm going to go take a bath.
Let me put the fuck away.
You're a bad man.
I do have dudes.
I do have a knock for Lux hotel.
OK, bad ass.
You're talking about like this, you know, four star, five star,
whatever, play, super bougie.
And everything's super nice.
Their bathtubs are like the fucking four and a half feet
by two feet deep.
And then the thing only fills up to the little thing
that switches over and it like so drains out.
So you don't even get your balls with it?
So my balls are barely fucking wet, dude.
It goes right to my belly button.
That's the worst.
And if I want to get my back wet and lay all the way back down
my feet and ass have to hang up in the air.
And I'm like, why are we still making bathtubs like this?
Like, are humans are getting bigger, not smaller?
Well, because grown man, six foot three,
or four over tall, your grown man, don't draw a bath.
That's a big bath in the middle of the day.
Well, that's because they don't realize the benefits of that.
I'm telling you right now, man,
you do some brain FM, get in a nice little bath,
and it'll just recharge your fucking day.
Yeah, but you're telling-
It take anybody up on the Pepsi challenge.
And then he's in there calling me,
he's out, hey, Sal, can you come here real quick?
Hey, Sal, come here real quick.
Can you get this for me?
You need some chocolate?
Totally ignoring him.
Totally ignoring him.
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Quikwa...
Alright, the first question is from Sal Morgolo not fit.
Why do we as humans fear change? Even when things in life suck, we are afraid of change.
Why is that? Change. What's a song? Isn't there a song about change? Change. I don't know.
Name one. I feel like we just made one up right now. Change. Yeah. There it is right there.
Do you think there's some evolutionary purpose behind this?
How where it's like we are in search of finding our body wanting to be comfortable, our stress levels to be comfortable?
They're always seeking homeostasis, right? We're seeking homeostasis and then when we find it, uh, we want to stay there.
We're maintaining it and we don't want to come out of it. Number one, protective of it. Rule number one with
Evolution is to keep you safe. So better safe than sorry is the rule that we will always our bodies will always try to live by.
So if you're in a position or you're in a situation that even if it sucks, but you're not dying
it's safer than taking the chance of
change which in for most human evolution, meant a risk, great risk of death.
Like if I'm in the cave and I've got, you know,
some shitty food with me, but I look out there and I'm like,
man, I bet I could hunt and catch that delicious meal over there,
but then I'm gonna have to be around the lions and whatever.
The guy who took all the risks, a lot of those people died
and didn't procreate, and a lot
of the ones that stayed back and were kind of pussies about it survived.
So it's very natural for us to fear any kind of a change at all.
It's one of the, actually, it's one of the most difficult things that we encounter.
And it's funny because it's interesting, right?
How many times, like, when we manage gyms, I know Adams is going to know exactly what
I'm talking about. Justin, or you too, right? Like how many times, like when we manage gyms, I know Adam's gonna know exactly what I'm talking about.
Justin or you two, right?
We all worked in gyms, like how pissed off would members get
if we moved a fucking machine, like two feet?
Oh my God.
Like we would move a machine to a different part of the gym.
Like almost a riot.
And we would get complaints left and right
because it's different, because people like things
to be in the same place all the time to be predictable.
Just so. Yeah.
Things have to be predictable and that's what creates that gives us that kind of false
sense of security.
Change, I mean it requires work now to, you know, ramp up to adapt to this new environment, this new stimulus, whatever it is.
It's like, you know, from that perspective, it's like, okay, great.
Now I have to figure this out.
And so just for people to be able to get into the place,
we're like, okay, have everything manage.
I have my body's looking good.
Everything's going great for me at work and this and that.
And then this new change, this interruption in the process
is like, it's a stress, anxiety sort of just kicks in immediately.
You know, it's such a life hack for those
that put this together early.
If you, and I wish I had someone who mentored me
and told me when I was younger,
because I think for a very large part of my growing up,
I think I avoided change
and I didn't like different or challenging myself
or taking myself out of my comfort zone.
And really moving to the Bay Area
when I was 19 was the first real experience
where I like took my, like intentionally
took myself out of my comfort zone
and put myself in an environment
that I knew I was gonna be uncomfortable
and I knew I wasn't really going to like knowing that it would force change and knowing that it would
end up forcing growth. And it takes one or two times of you really stepping out and doing that
before you start to realize, holy fuck, like the more I do this and the more I challenge myself and
the more afraid I am going into it, the greater the growth and the return is,
and then once you learn to hack into that, you begin to seek that. But it's hard because for the most part,
most of us are afraid of that, and so we avoid it. And even if we do kind of do it, we're like tiptoe into it.
I'm kind of changing, but not really. I'm still trying to stay comfortable. When you really should go, I'm gonna fucking, I'm all in.
I'm all in.
I'm gonna make this effort to change, do something different.
And I feel like it applies to so much.
And I like, we talk about it in the exercise and things like that.
Like forcing yourself out of your comfort zone.
It's amazing the growth that happens from that on so many levels.
We like things to be predictable.
You know what I mean?
Like, we wake up in the morning.
All of us, wake up in the morning.
I guarantee you right now, I'll ask you guys,
what are the first five things you do when you wake up in the morning?
It's the five same things that you do every single morning.
I wake up and you know, whatever.
I take a shit, check my Instagram, I go make my coffee,
wake up the kids, whatever.
But it's always in that same order.
Predictability means safety, but it sucks because
it does, like you said, Adam, it prevents growth.
And if I think back to the times of my life where I
can look back now and say, wow, that was a great
time of growth.
It was always almost forced upon me.
I mean, it was almost like I had to,
to, you know, like it was like I lost a job or,
yeah, you know, I like, you know, I'll never forget
when I expanded my business, when I had my wellness
facility and expanded my business,
I had expanded to a second location,
and I had just overstretched myself,
and I had to try to carry the whole thing on my own and it didn't work out and
When I had to shut down that second location
I knew at that moment that I would at some point transition out from the brick and mortar side of fitness and
It was terrifying, but it was also exhilarating. I knew
and it was terrifying, but it was also exhilarating. I knew that the change would be good for me,
so logically I knew that, but it's terrifying
because what's next, like what am I gonna do next?
I'm so used to this particular structure
and what to expect.
Now what am I gonna do?
And it's quite empowering to be able to realize
that you can do a lot more.
Going on vacation with my girlfriend is a great example.
She's because she traveled so much with the Cirque du Soleil.
When she was with the Cirque du Soleil, she went from country to country for, I think
she was doing it for, I want to say four years or five years, where she would be in a country
for two weeks to two months and then she'd move.
So imagine that, right?
Imagine moving that often and it's to a completely different country, new language, you get really
good at it after a while.
So the way she likes the travel is, she literally likes the book trips and that's it.
She'll book the flight.
And I'll ask her like, where are we gonna stay?
What hotel?
She's like, oh no, we'll figure it out when we get there.
Well, what are we gonna do?
Oh no, we'll figure it out when we get there.
And that fucking drives me crazy because when I travel,
I would have a hard time doing that.
Bro, the way I travel, I like to know everything
that's gonna happen.
I like to know where I'm gonna stay,
who's gonna pick us up, where we're gonna drive to.
And she wanted to do that in Thailand.
This is a country that I didn't even feel
super comfortable going to anyway,
even though it's Thailand,
just because I've only traveled to Western European countries.
And she's just like, yeah, we don't need a book, anything.
We'll just go there and land and figure it out.
Yeah, and it's like, fucking terrifying,
but I allowed myself to do a little bit of it.
I couldn't do all of it, because I've been too much for me myself to do a little bit of it. I couldn't do all of it,
because it would've been too much for me.
To do a little bit when we travel
and it's actually fucking fun, dude.
It's actually fun to realize
that you can figure things out and do that kind of stuff.
But the bad thing about being stuck in a situation
or being afraid to change
is a lot of times it keeps people in horrible situations. Like you ever see people in these horrible relationships where it's abusive,
whether it's emotionally or physically or whatever or a job that just sucks. That's the
one that really trips me out. People will stay in a job that just sucks for years because
they're afraid of the potential of what could potentially happen if they just laugh. Yeah, they're counting their losses, based off of what this means. What does it mean for me to change?
Like a lot of times they won't change because it means you have to let some of these things
die. You have to absorb the damage., you have to absorb the damage,
and you have to realize,
you really have to recognize that it's toxic,
it's not working for you.
That's hard to do on its own,
is to just identify a lot of times
when it's your environment
or it's something that you're full vested in,
and it's not benefiting you.
Well, I challenge, you say that.
I think those are obvious, right?
Like the girl who's in the relationship
and the guy's been beating her for two years
and it's like, get out of that.
What are you thinking?
And it's so obvious and even she knows it,
but she's not doing it like,
or the friend that is in these poor relationships
where they treat you like shit.
Like those to me are obviously,
I think the ones that people have to look out for
that are harder at the ones where we're very comfortable
and we actually enjoy it and we like it.
And it's, for example, we talked in Sal on our trip
and I explained to you that,
you know, I stayed in the company for probably four years.
That's 24, fitness.
Yeah, longer because I was making six figures.
I came and went as I wanted, 401K benefits. I was making six figures. I came in when as I wanted.
401K benefits.
I loved health and fitness.
I love people.
I mean, I was good at my job and a name for myself like in the company.
It was a pretty cush situation for me.
I really, really liked it, but I also wanted more for myself.
And I knew I was destined for more, but at the same time too, I was comfortable.
And I hung around there for probably four years longer
than what I should have because of that.
And then afterwards, when I think,
and really what I went and did after,
that's when I transitioned over
into the medical marijuana industry,
which I didn't, I didn't change.
Right, huge change.
I didn't end up staying in that,
but it was the catalyst
that really propelled to where we are now. I mean, there was multiple things in between that,
but I asked, I have to ask myself like, man, I could have easily stayed and been that person,
because I had my house, I'm paying my bills, I had freedom, I love my job,
I had all the things that you're supposed to have and be happy and I was,
but I wanted more for myself.
So I think the people that really have to challenge this are the ones that actually
that are, it is good.
And you have to truly ask yourself, do you want more?
Are you wanting more for your life or do you believe that there's more for you than what
you're, where you're currently at?
And then are you doing the things necessary to make that change and more
often than not.
It's training.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Honestly, there's so many parallels to fitness and I think that's why being growth-minded
and that took work.
That took a lot of black eyes.
It took a lot of lumps for me to
Understand how to reframe my thought process when I when I dealt with change. That's a good that's a good word right there To say is any of you've used it before is reframing right is you know people look at something and it's just like oh my god
It's so scary so bad. It's just so it's it's like, no, why is it be so bad?
Why is it to be so scary?
Why is it to be so risky?
How about it's like, this is gonna be an incredible opportunity.
Brace it and get it excited.
Yeah.
Here's a game that I play with myself whenever I'm gonna,
whenever I'm trying to.
Talking to you.
Yeah, exactly.
I'm trying to make the decision for a big change
is I play this game.
It's the, what's the worst that could happen and then I
Imagine that the worst thing happened and then what would I do?
Because I find that the thought of
The worst that could happen is worse than if it actually did for example
When I make a decision to start a new business. Okay, what's the worst that could happen? It fails and then what?
Mm-hmm
I don't make any money, and then what?
I lose my house and I have to live with my parents.
Is that really the most horrible thing
in the world you can think of?
No, not a big deal.
Like if I did that, I could,
I know I could get back on my feet.
I know I could find a job.
I know I could do these different things.
And once I become comfortable
with the risk of the worst thing that could possibly happen,
then the change no longer is a big issue for me.
Because now I'm going there going, fuck it. Like the worst thing this thing can happen, then the change no longer is a big issue for me.
Because now I'm going there going fuck it like the worst thing this thing can throw at me
I can handle.
So it's no longer a fear.
There's a quote that this reminded me of.
It's a very powerful quote that I read a long time ago and every once in a while I like
to read it.
Here's the quote.
And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom.
Very, very powerful quote, I think that kind of connects
to this whole changing thing that sometimes it's more
painful to not change than it is to change.
So remind yourself of that.
Awesome, you're a flower.
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Next up is Johnny Olive.
Johnny.
I'm all about that.
All is that any suggestions for a six foot two inch body builder making a
transition into functional training.
Wow.
Do we know anybody that did that?
He said he was 215 also in the question.
So six two house.
House has been packed homeboy is like right up my alley right here.
This is yeah, I feel like this is a question I should answer.
I'm not sure begin this since you did this thing this whole transition yourself.
Yeah, I think the the biggest part of the transition will be the mental piece.
If you were a bodybuilder like myself, you're heavily focused on building muscle,
you're probably attached to that.
And, and I mean, just I, I love being the big dude, man.
I like walking into the gym and being one of the figure fittest, biggest dudes in the
gym.
It feels good.
It feels good to fill out all my extra large and some double XL shirts.
Like, that's a good fucking feeling.
When you attach yourself to a lot of that and then you decide you're going to make this
transition from being that guy to I'm going to be this mobility guy, there's a lot of things
that are conflicting.
Now, it doesn't mean you can't be super functional and fit.
We've talked about this a million times, yes.
But there is a mental transition that I had to make.
And we kind of talked about this in previous episodes
where I really had this self-talk where I was like,
okay, don't give a shit if I,
if you just said so about how you envision
the worst case scenario,
that's how I envision when I decided to go from bodybuilding to functional training, I said, what's the worst thing scenario. That's how I envision like when I decided to go
from bodybuilding to functional training,
I said, what's the worst thing that's gonna happen?
I'm gonna lose 30 pounds of muscle
and then I'll just have to work and get it all.
But like I started like telling myself,
what is the worst thing I'm gonna get skinny and lean?
I'm gonna lose all this muscle.
I'm not gonna be as strong.
And I started being, but I was thinking like, okay,
but I'm gonna be way more flexible.
I'm gonna alleviate a lot of the pain.
I'm gonna feel better throughout the day.
I'm gonna be way more mobile.
I'm gonna get more out of my exercises.
Like, so I started like kind of talking to myself
about what to expect and what the worst case could look like
and what I was trying to seek out of it.
And then I went to embrace it.
I said, you know what?
I don't give a shit if I'm gonna look leaner.
And then I went to embrace it. I said, you know what? I don't give a shit if I'm going to look leaner. And then I started going after that with the same type of, you know,
mentality as you go after bodybuilding with this approach of sculpting the body only now you're
heavily focused on moving better, but it has to take those type of priorities.
I think that one of the reasons why you were successful at this is you did not identify with being a body-building.
Right, right.
If you, and here's, this is the trick with your body
when it comes to training your body.
The minute you identify with a particular type of training
or a particular type of look, you're fucked
because now you're gonna lose the ability.
Limited yourself.
Yeah, you're gonna lose the ability
to have variety in your training.
You're gonna increase the risk of creating potential problems for yourself, whether it's imbalances or
metabolic damage. Like, you know, if I identified so strongly with being super shredded all the time,
then that means that I'm going to raise my risk of metabolic damage. If you are super identified
with being a bodybuilder, then trying to transition to functional training
is gonna be impossible,
because you are going to see what you identify with,
start to change.
Exactly what it's supposed to do, right?
It's supposed to change.
If you're training in a functional way,
and not like a body builder,
you can expect your body to change.
You can expect your movement to change.
But if you identified with what you're at now, no way in hell you're gonna movement to change. But if you identified with what you're at now,
no way in hell you're gonna let yourself change.
Well, then the happening is to do,
a week or two of functional training,
and you'll be like, fuck this,
I'm going right back to my bodybuilding
because my barbell squat,
I can't squat as heavy or my muscles don't look sharp
or I don't look like,
I feel like I'm losing my gains or whatever.
You have to, you definitely have to go in with that in mind
that you can't attach yourself to the way you look right now.
And then also, I'm going to be super functional.
So I think, but what's exciting, and I'll tell you,
because I'm back on the journey of being a bodybuilder again
right now, so I've been training.
You're the lowest voice when you said, right?
I'm training to be a bodybuilder again right now.
So, I'm back up be a bodybuilder again right now.
So, I'm back up to my 225 range.
I came all the way down to about 210 was the lowest I think I got when I was purely
focused on functional training.
And there were moments I remember thinking myself like, fuck, is it going to be tough for
me to get it back?
It wasn't at all.
It took me about a month to get my rhythm back where I was starting to increase my volume. And it took me about two months to really start to see
myself growing again. And I think I'm at month three right now of training and I feel
fucking great. I have better range of motion I ever had. I'm back to what all my PR weights
were and squatting and deadlifting. And I feel better than I've ever felt. And I'm not
as aesthetically put together
as I am when I give a speech, but I also have it's only three months in.
Give me three more months of sculpting and we'll see where I'm at.
So as far as a protocol, I'll give you kind of what I did, even though I think that there's
a lot of individual variance and this may work for you may not.
But I started off with maps prime.
And what I did was I said, okay, I'm going to make like because I didn't do this before,
I'm going to make sure that I every single workout, I spend 15 minutes at least on maps prime
and I started priming my body better than I've ever primed before.
That was the beginning.
And I did that for the first couple of weeks of like,
just making it a habit for myself.
That this is now becoming a priority where I would,
if I only had 40 minutes to work out in the past,
I might neglect that priming to make sure
I got my bodybuilder lift in because I got to hit my muscles
and make sure I stay big and muscular,
where now I said that's not as much of a priority. If I only got 40 minutes to work out,
I'm still getting my 15 minutes of prime. It just means I'm only hitting the weights for, you know,
30 minutes or whatever. So that's kind of how I started. And I ran that way for probably a good solid month.
And then I started to build upon that. And this is kind of where the evolution of Maps Prime Pro came.
Is then I started to implement a lot of the Maps Prime Pro
tools that we have in that program on my off days. And so then I would come to the gym and I would
actually do nothing but my prime and prime pro movements where I'm just focusing on my mobility.
So, and I started off with that just two times, maybe three times a week. And then it got to the
point where I was enjoying the progress so much.
I started to increase the volume in my functional training
just like I would in bodybuilding.
I start off bodybuilding and I start to get adapted
and then I start to increase volume.
I did the same thing with my functional training.
Started off with prime.
After I was doing that for about a month,
then I started to incorporate separate days by themselves,
one or two days a week, and then after that,
then before you knew it, I was spending sometimes a week
of like all functional type training,
and then I would just kind of sprinkle squats
and deadlifts or overhead, big compound movements
in there to make sure I kept.
I do sprinkle squats.
Just to make sure that I kept some of my muscle
while I was doing this knowing
Dan well that that wasn't the priority that functional training had now become this.
And that was kind of how I managed that and I was I mean it's been almost a year now
when you guys say well how long has it been you did a long for a while and there were some
pitfalls along the way you may be covered that a little out of my oh you mean is when I
was challenging to see how strong because I think when you're doing this, when you start to transition,
if you make the full transition
and you really commit to it,
you'll see some really promising progress.
And you may be motivated to push it.
Yeah, push that progress.
Yeah, at the beginning I did this a couple times
and I learned the hard way.
And I think it was the second time
that it happened to me where I realized, okay,
I need to quit fucking around with who cares about my PRs,
who cares about how strong I am right now.
It's not about strength, about how functional I am
and my mobility.
And what I was doing was I was getting excited
because I was okay, I was starting to actually put this
to practice and after a month's time,
I was already seeing increased range of motion and I wanted to test it
I wanted okay. I got new range found range of motion
Let's see if I can still squat 400 pounds in that new found range of motion and that was pretty stupid
And I know saying that out loud right now in the podcast sounds really stupid too like Adam
You should know better, but you know fuck you until you try it and do it yourself
It's tempting as fuck to do that because you feel great and you notice new things and you know the athlete and me wanted to do that and test it and I learned the hard way hurt myself set myself back again so you know you're gonna have these moments where
you start to see that and you're gonna want to do that and I just I just you know stress saying to you that listen don't
do that continue to work on on the mobility, keep working on the new found range of motion
and strengthening that, but doing it right and starting really, really light.
Yeah, this always kind of comes back to kind of our core principles, right?
It's the said principles, specific adaptation.
What is it again?
Specific adaptation.
Adaptation opposed.
It demands.
So basically, if you just keep that in mind, always, your body is going to respond very specifically
to what you're telling it to do.
It has to have, it's working towards a goal.
And whatever that goal is and how long you want that goal
to dry out for, that's what you're telling your body
every day to do.
And so if this is your new goal, like just focus on that. Focus
on it, you know, be open to it and, you know, just completely wrap your entire efforts around
this direction. And then, you know, you come back and you introduce another goal.
And I, and I even say go that way, even with your nutrition, because I saw benefits of that.
I was eating lower calorie, and so I noticed,
and I wasn't eating as much carbohydrate.
I was doing more of a ketoish type of diet
where I was on much higher fat,
so I saw inflammation down.
So I was doing all of these things
that I thought would promote better mobility
and functionality in my body by the way I ate,
the way I moved, the way I trained,
and I fully embraced that
with knowing, knowing damn well that I was going to lose some muscle on the way, but not
fearing that knowing that, they listen, I've been doing this my whole life, I can put some
muscle back on it, and I'm actually extremely surprised on how quick I had told myself that
it could potentially take a lot longer than what it has. And I'm back to feeling pretty damn good.
And I would say like looking at my physique,
if I'm being completely objective, I would say,
I'm probably three months out from having my body look ready
for a pro show in men's physique,
if I'm being completely honest.
I mean, I could technically get on a stage
in four weeks.
No, I just think that's it.
If you got a bodybuilder, I know these are got to be the things that are probably spinning
around in his head that he's concerned about.
And, you know, if you really, really want to make an effort to do this, don't freak out,
man.
You'd be surprised how fast you could get that muscle right back and this time around,
moving a lot better.
H-M-E-Z-4.
What do you think about D-Load Weeks
and do you implement them into your own routine?
This was a question that Jay asked Salonite.
Yeah, on Renekade Radio.
So D-Load Weeks are very important.
They should be scheduled into your routine.
And so they should be scheduled
right after you start to hit a peak,
not when you start to notice a decline in performance.
I know a lot of people will do a D-load week
when they notice that they're plateauing
or their body stops responding.
At that point, it's kind of too late already.
Now you've got to kind of fight an uphill battle
because your body now is starting to progress. When we design our maps programs, they're all phased and there are no
de-load weeks in there because phasing your workouts really means you don't
need to do a scheduled de-load because the target adaptation changes.
And our phase is last anywhere between two to four weeks depending on the
program. We know in studies will show that adaptation
really settles in around four, around week number four.
And so most of our programs will phase you out of that
before that.
So I used to do this problem all the time.
Like I'd go hit a new PR in a deadlift
and the following week I'm like, oh, dude,
I know I can get into the five or 10 pounds.
And I'd push and try and squeeze out into the five or 10 pounds.
And inevitably, I would set myself back, or I would sometimes even injure myself.
In reality, that's the best time to do a D-Load.
Like, I just hit a PR.
Now, next week is going to be an easier workout or a change of that.
I'm just focused.
And I think, too, even I've seen people use our Maps Anywhere program for this to focus
a little bit more on body weight training and go through a period of that, even if you
need a little bit more of a transition away from loading your body constantly.
We do have it planned out, so the adaptation is something completely different that you're
going to step into, which it's another ramp up phase. You're going to go into this which, you know, it's another ramp up phase.
You're going to go into this new adaptation with a little bit lighter load and kind of ramp
back up with a new focus.
However, some people have found benefit to using that method.
Yeah.
I would like to hear you guys share, you know, because what I'm thinking right now too,
like all the people we've trained, you know, how often did you actually have to schedule a
D-load for clients?
Was this something that you had to do on a regular basis or was it more rare that was even
necessary to do that?
This is more for athletes, that I used to train that would aggressively get through these
workouts and I would literally have to like put them on a D-load.
Right, I feel like I can only count maybe a handful of people that were so consistent and
hardcore about their training that I needed to have them back off.
I felt that most people find enough excuses to back off of training that, scheduling
in a D-load.
I mean, it's crazy how many people, it's rare to find somebody who can follow a
actual program to a T for, you know, six to twelve. These are, I feel like this question is most appropriate for people that like still
max out in their workouts. Yep. Right. And so they're, they're already recognizing that their body's taking on damage constantly and they haven't caught up in. Well, ideally speaking, if you can be very objective and read your body very well, you'll
know when to de-load. You'll know when to set up a de-load and when to come out of a de-load.
Here's the problem. The problem is we're typically pretty shitty at being objective about ourselves.
So when I trained clients, I was an excellent trainer at identifying this stuff. So I never had to have a scheduled deal load because I could tell when I'm training my client that,
oh, it looks like this workout's going to be easier. It looks like we're going to drop the intensity here.
It looks like we're going to raise the reps or lower the rate or raise the weight.
Now, I would do scheduled deal loads for myself because I was terrible for myself because for whatever
reason, and all the trainers listening, I know you guys can connect with this.
For some reason, you assume that you're,
you don't, the rules don't apply to you.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, oh, I'm different, I'm a trainer.
I'm a trainer.
I press the boundaries further than you would
with your client.
Absolutely, so that's when I would have to schedule them
for myself, and that's why the programs,
the maps programs have scheduled phases.
Ideally, you would be able to know when you would exit phase one and move into phase two
and exit phase two, move into phase three.
Unfortunately, it never works out that way.
Most people need someone to tell them
or have something structured
so that they move out out of a phase
when it's ideal.
Because, like I said,
when it's time to move out of a phase of training,
is right around the time you feel best in that phase.
So I'll give you an example.
If I start a phase three of like Maps and Obolic,
we'll use that example
because that's the most common Maps program people in Roland.
So phase three of Maps and Obolic is what we call
Circle Plasma Hypertrophy or Chasing the Pump.
So the reps are much higher.
There's lots of supersets.
So it's a faster pace.
You're doing supersets.
You're doing higher reps.
And the goal is to get this crazy pump.
Now, the first week you do this phase,
because you're transitioning from phase two.
The first week you do phase three sucks.
You go into phase three and it's exhausting.
You're burning out, you're weight.
You're gonna have to drop the weight considerably.
You're breathing really hard.
You're like, oh my gosh, this is fucking terrible.
This is so hard.
By the time you get to week two, you start to feel better and you're like, okay, I'm starting
to get the hang of it.
It still feels terrible, but I'm starting to get the hang of it.
By the time you get to phase three, you're like, fuck yeah, this feels great.
I'm getting crazy pumps.
I've got all the stamina. I feel awesome. That's when you switch out to phase three, you're like, fuck yeah, this feels great, I'm getting crazy pumps, I've got all the stamina, I feel awesome.
That's when you switch out to phase three.
Now, most people at that third week would be like,
awesome, I'm gonna keep doing this phase now
because I feel so great.
And then they would wait until that phase three
stops producing results.
And by that point, now you've gone too far.
Now you got to kind of back out of it.
Now that being said, I think there's a ton of individual variants like that.
Somebody, and using this example, I typically stretch my phase three in our programs out
to four to five weeks because I just respond well.
I continue to grow.
I don't take on a lot of damage because it's high reps and lower weight.
I feel like my body can handle that longer
before I have to transition out
and I still can see gains.
Now that's me personally, right?
And I don't share that a lot on the show
because we recommend everybody to follow the program
to a tee the first time you go through it.
But these are the ways that you can kind of play with that.
But that's why we kind of, on all the programs,
we lean towards the lighter side of like the three to four week range
when some people may be able to stretch it as far as five or six weeks.
But we know for sure that's enough time for them
to get some of the major adaptation benefits.
Exactly.
And so we know we're getting the peak of it.
Some people may be able to ride that peak a little bit longer,
but we know they've got most of the max benefits, and it's definitely a time for them to transition
out, and they're going to continue to see benefits that way. So that's why we lean more that way.
But you got to be careful too, because you're going to find a favorite phase of training.
Well, and that's what's most common, right? Yeah. Like I'll stay in phase one for
fucking months, because I love that phase one. I love heavy lifting. I love high volume low rep, you know,
sats and it's my favorite thing to do and I'll ride that shit for way too fucking long and start to get negative results.
So your joints start hurting. Yeah, for sure. That's the one that I think a lot of people get stuck in that. Exactly.
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Hassan am a moon both arms are the same strength but his left arm is
significantly smaller than his right have you seen this before and how do you go
about correcting that not only have I seen this but and how do you go about correcting this? Not only have I seen this before.
But this is really common.
This is actually really common.
I used to get clients all the time.
And it's very normal too, right?
So nobody is perfectly symmetrical on the left and the right
side.
Nobody is as much as they want to be and say they are that nobody's
perfectly symmetrical.
Now, that being said,
there are a lot of different things that can be contributing to this, especially when
you're talking about like the biceps, right? You can be overcompensating on one side more
than the other. You can have a more dominant hand and you don't even realize it, but you
tend to use it more when you're doing things that require more strength. If you have a strong hand and you go
to pick something up that only requires one hand, you typically lean and grab that with what? Your
strong hand that's already developed. When you add that up over years and years and years and we
talk about the importance of frequency all the time. Or just that load of moderate dose of
intensity that you're constantly doing more on one side.
So you're getting that sort of muscular development.
But meanwhile, when you go to do a full loaded strength with both arms, like an exercise
of both arms, you maintain that same strength on both sides.
But it's more central nervous system that's at you know, at play there versus like the constant pump
that you're giving one side.
And I tend to switch clients over to
a lot of unilateral movements.
And then what I do is I have them start
with the weaker side.
So let's say you're going through one of our maps programs
and this is again, where we encourage people to modify and mold. So let's say you're going through one of our maps programs uh... and this is again where we encourage people to modify and mold so
let's say the uh... we're gonna you we're used arms because that's what it
what it is
uh...
and there's uh... barbell row in our in all of our programs right so barbell row
is in there
that person i may have them do a dumbbell row
and they'll do a single arm dumbbell row in replace of that movement.
And then I'm going to have them start on the weaker arm.
And so let's say they're in a phase where we call for 10 reps.
I'm going to say start with the weaker arm first and our target is 10 reps.
And then they get to 10 reps and they said, well, let's say they can only get to nine
with good form.
I have them stop at nine.
And then the other arm, I mirror that even though they could probably do 11, 12 or 15 reps
with the stronger arm because it's that much stronger than the other side.
So I'm always going to start with the less dominant, the minute that form that so that's
and the important piece is that when you got to notice when the form starts to break down.
So if we're imagining you doing a dumbbell row with your right arm right now, and I'm thinking
about you rowing, and at like, you can get 10 out, but at seven and eight, form starts
to break down.
You've got to stop right there.
This would make sense, but he's saying that he has the same strength on both sides.
So, you know, it's more like, I'm trying to think like from more of a muscular development
side, obviously, it's going to take
trigger sessions.
Yeah, trigger sessions on the smaller arm.
It's a very, this is an easier fix than having a difference in strength.
If it's believe it or not, if it's a smaller in size on your off days, do trigger sessions
for the smaller arm, get a little bit of a pump in it for five minutes, you know, three
times a day.
Right. a little bit of a pump in it for five minutes, three times a day. You're frequency in that sense.
Well, the reason why I was using a row as an example
is because a lot of times people,
so he thinks that they're the same strength
because maybe he does dumbbell per all.
I know we're going.
Right, so he's compensating on the bilateral movement.
Yes, so he thinks that he's the same strength,
but mechanically, he's probably got something
on like his big movements like back and chest and other movements like that, where one
side, the stronger side is overcompensating.
And so he's getting less development in the secondary muscles.
It makes way more sense.
It's, I bet it is.
I mean, for me, and in my experience, all the clients that I've trained that have a visual
difference, there's normally a mechanical difference too.
That is caused.
Very few people are born genetically with a way bigger bicep than the other.
If it's enough to where you can see it with your own eye or even measure it with a tape
measure, then there's probably some sort of dysfunction or mechanical breakdown in some
of your big motor movements.
And so again, this is why I know you said biceps, but I used back as an example because
You know this guy when he does a barbell row with both arms doesn't even realize it
But he's getting way more he's generating out of the side that's more dominant and looks bigger
And he doesn't even realize it because he's using both both sides the same time. Do you guys know why?
One of the prevailing theories is to why humans have a preference to one hand or the other.
So, this is fascinating.
I would think that's something to do with the brain, and I would side the brain.
Well, there's that, right?
So, we know why, because the left hemisphere of the brain is the one that controls certain
functions, and so they think that's why most people are right-handed, but why are we
right or left-handed?
And one of the theories, I thought I found this fascinating,
is because of all animals on Earth, humans do some pretty spectacular things.
And one of those things that we do is we throw with incredible accuracy,
better than any animal on Earth.
We can throw with incredible distance and absolute accuracy.
And we probably evolved this skill.
From Spear.
Because we were hunters.
Yeah, and because it was so important
to our survival and our evolution and our ability
to make tools that we can throw
and take down animals much larger than us.
And it became more efficient to evolve this, to be able to
get this skill on one side of our body versus, you know, having all these resources go to developing
this on both sides, although sometimes that exists as well. And if you practice with both sides,
but it's just more efficient to pick a side and then master because people don't realize this,
when you throw something, I actually watched a't realize this, when you throw something,
I actually watch the documentary on this,
when you throw something,
the math and physics involved that your brain has to calculate
to know how to throw it with the right distance
when something's running and traveling
to be able to hit it at the right angle, whatever,
it's pretty fucking phenomenal.
Yeah, the real math increases when you're trying to catch it.
It's incredible, it's very predictive.
Yeah. I mean, a major league baseball player can throw We'll do this increases when you're trying to catch it. It's incredible. It's very predictive.
I mean, a major league baseball player can throw 90 mile an hour.
I mean fastball with ridiculous accuracy.
And so they think that's why humans have this.
I can see that.
I mean, that theory makes sense.
Like people naturally gravitate to one side.
Babies do it.
Yeah, you can tell when babies do play.
I mean, we used to do, like so if you brought somebody
who's never wakeboarded
Never snowboarded never did anything like that before we would do a test with you where we just you have you stand on a ledge and then we push you
And we don't tell you we're gonna do that and you just you pay attention to what foot you step forward with first
They break their legs. You'll not you'll naturally right away go to your your dominant your dominant side will stay behind and your weaker side will come forward
And so you right away can tell if that person's regular or goofy foot and they can have never read
Escaped boards, no board or any of those things before but they'll have a natural right away
They'll step in the direction. So my question is I
I read something somewhere. I don't know if this was a legit study or not that like predominantly like most psychopaths were left handed.
Yeah, creative people are higher proportion of them
are left handed than the normal population.
And yes, I think you're right.
And I think people with mental disorders.
But there is a strong correlation and and also, highly certain types of science.
There is a strong correlation with creativity
and mental illness.
Also.
So, and you kind of see that with like musicians
and artists a little bit.
Yeah, I can see that.
We're also one-eyed.
Blood people don't know that too.
Like if you are aiming at something,
you tend to favor an eye that you'll look through.
Oh, really?
Yeah, so, and it's all, I mean, the theory is more clarity
on one side.
It's just your brain will process it better.
It's just on that side.
And it's all, again, it goes to that theory of like,
we evolved developing these skills
to be able to throw with accuracy so we can,
that's weird.
If I close my eye, I feel like I do favor my left eye a little more.
And I think, I don't look this up,
but I think that's the case.
I think if you're right handed,
you typically are left eyed,
which again, if you're throwing,
that sounds funny.
Again, if you're throwing,
because you're looking across.
Right, if you're throwing with your right,
your left hip is forward,
so you can generate power, right?
Step before it,
so you're probably gonna look with your left
and throw with the right.
I don't know about that one,
I don't look that one up, but that kind of that's interesting because now that's funny because
When I shoot a gun I
Have to totally like think about which one I'm supposed to close and it's confusing with for me because I shoot from the opposite side that I
Actually use as dominant for me. So that's that makes a lot of sense now because when I go to these shooting ranges
I always have to like
Are you your left-handed, right? Yeah, I am for sports and if I were to throw a spear
Throw a throw a ball it all come from my left
But then I do all my finesse things with my right. So I write with my right. I brush my teeth with my right
I eat with my right. So all all finesse
You're an abodexress. Yeah, that's I guess kind of but I can throw I mean buy handed
He's a yeah, I mean I could throw with my I can throw with my right probably as good as you can throw with your right
So I mean you guess you could call me amidextrous
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