Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 581: The Ideal Warm Up Routine, Core Work & Lower Back Pain, Aesthetics Vs. Health & MORE

Episode Date: August 25, 2017

Kimera-Quah! In this episode of Quah, sponsored by Kimera Koffee (kimerakoffee.com, code "mindpump" for 10% off), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about the best way to increase hunger an...d be able to eat more, core work and lower back pain, what a warm up should consist of and if being healthy meant being out of shape would they sacrifice aesthetics for health. Guys talk candy (3:30) Juicy Fruit gum Melon heads Nerds Fun Heads Pixy Stix Guys talk TV series that bring emotions out of you (11:28) Game of Thrones Sopranos Breaking Bad Guys talk trying out the Organifi Red Juice (16:34) Adam has been drinking green/red together Guys talk “beets” (21:03) Endurance Athletes Bodybuilders Adam gives update on macros prepping for Olympia Sal tells a “beet” story Guys talk current shows they're watching (29:08) The Defiant Ones Last Chance U Quah question #1 – What is the best way to increase hunger and build muscle? (31:53) Decide what is more important (put on muscle or play active sports) Eat lower fat foods earlier in the day Adam introduced cannabis after dinner to consume extra calories Send right signals to your body Eat healthy Quality sleep Rest properly Quah question #2 – Just started doing more core work, lower back is hurting. What am I doing wrong? (50:28) Flex at the spine Floor Crunch Recruitment pattern problem Hip flexor dominant Quah question #3 – What should a warmup routine consist of? (57:40) MAPS Prime/Prime Pro Prime your body for what you plan to do that day What you train, is what you strengthen Treat all exercise as a skill Perfect technique before you do Quah question #4 – Hypothetically speaking, if being healthy meant being out of shape, would you sacrifice aesthetics for health? (1:11:37) Chase optimal health and wellness Forget about aesthetics for awhile Never sacrifice your health Would you like to be coached by Sal, Adam & Justin? You can get 30 days of virtual coaching from them for FREE at www.mindpumpmedia.com. Get our newest program, MAPS Prime Pro, which shows you how to self assess and correct muscle recruitment patterns that cause pain and impede performance and gains. Get it at www.mindpumpmedia.com! Get MAPS Prime, MAPS Anywhere, MAPS Anabolic, MAPS Performance, MAPS Aesthetic, the Butt Builder Blueprint, the Sexy Athlete Mod AND KB4A (The MAPS Super Bundle) packaged together at a substantial DISCOUNT at www.mindpumpmedia.com. Make EVERY workout better with MAPS Prime, the only pre-workout you need… it is now available at mindpumpmedia.com Have Sal, Adam & Justin personally train you via video instruction on our YouTube channel, Mind Pump TV. Be sure to Subscribe for updates. Get your Kimera Koffee at www.kimerakoffee.com, code "mindpump" for 10% off! Get Organifi, certified organic greens, protein, probiotics, etc at www.organifi.com Use the code “mindpump” for 20% off. Go to foursigmatic.com/mindpump and use the discount code “mindpump” for 15% off of your first order of health & energy boosting mushroom products. Add to the incredible brain enhancing effect of Kimera Koffee with www.brain.fm/mindpump 10 Free sessions! Music for the brain for incredible focus, sleep and naps! Also includes 20% if you purchase! Please subscribe, rate and review this show! Each week our favorite reviewers are announced on the show and sent Mind Pump T-shirts! Have questions for Mind Pump? Each Monday on Instagram (@mindpumpradio) look for the QUAH post and input your question there. (Sal, Adam & Justin will answer as many questions as they can)

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Starting point is 00:00:44 and enter the code MindPump for a discount. Then we talk about beats. Beats, man. Not the musical beats. The beat, I got to throw in there again. Yeah, I got to do that. But the jam. The food beats and how one time ate a whole bunch of them
Starting point is 00:00:59 and I had red pee. Dude, your peen blood. I had red pee. It wasn't good. It wasn't. Then we get into the questions. The first question was, what's the best way to increase hunger so that I can eat more food?
Starting point is 00:01:12 This is obviously somebody who's trying to gain more muscle. I hope it's more muscle. I don't know anybody wants to gain more body fat. Then the next question is, we have an individual who's doing lots of core work, but they're having problems with their lower back, pain with their lower back. What are they doing wrong?
Starting point is 00:01:30 We answer it in this episode, little deactivator technique. That's right, then we talk about warming up. What should it look like? How important is warming up? And is there more to warming up, warming up, than just preventing injury? Yes, there is.
Starting point is 00:01:45 A lot more, it turns out. Finally, somebody asked us the question, hypothetically speaking, if being healthy, being out of shape, would we ever sacrifice aesthetics? They all know. For health. You know Adam wouldn't. And he gave away the answer,
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Starting point is 00:03:39 Pull it out. The taste is just moving. It's gonna drop it in your mouth. That's how it's, it's like that. The taste is gonna move you when I drop it in your mouth. That's how it's. It's like that. The taste is gonna move you when you pop it in your mouth. Juicy fruit is gonna move you. Is that real? That was the, you don't remember the juicy fruit?
Starting point is 00:03:55 Right, don't remember juicy fruit. Here's the lyrics, here's the lyrics, you can look this up. Take a sniff, pull it out. The taste is gonna move you when you pop it in your mouth. It sounds a lot like gay porn. Like, uh, I guess. I'm gonna do an Instagram post of that today.
Starting point is 00:04:13 I'm just gonna put just the lines up there and see what happens. Take a sniff, pull it out. And then I'll hashtag, well, it's a... Chewsy fruit. Chewsy fruit. It's gonna move you. One of the best Tasting but annoying gums of all time because it tastes super good for 15 minutes approximately 15 minutes That would be a blessing. There's no way it lasts long on the 25 seconds. It's not like juju bees though
Starting point is 00:04:37 Remember those that least alike just stuck in your teeth just my mammals Just me because it's something you eat three of them for the whole movie the worst can't like candy ever made That's support kids candy, you know, so I can I back when we were poor my mom we have family of five She's like hey listen. We get one box of juji fruits, but it's gonna last all of you this entire He like five you yeah here here's for the first half of the movie here's your one Here's your one, but mom it's not healthy listen. It's juice the movie here's your one. Here's your one. But mom, it's not healthy.
Starting point is 00:05:02 Listen, it's juice. It's juice. It's fruit. It's made of fruit, son. It's fruit stuff. Look at it. It's a little peach. A little peaches and grapes.
Starting point is 00:05:09 Look at son. It's fruit flavored. Yeah. You know what? You know it was a good candy. I'll tell you it was a good candy. Let's see if you guys, let's see how good you are. Adam should know this.
Starting point is 00:05:17 You're the candy wizard or at least you should be. I don't know. I'm the wizard, but I'm the candy wizard. Well, I'm more like the vagina wizard. You should. The wizard of the wizard of badge of Poon. What does that mean, by the way? I don't even know.
Starting point is 00:05:32 I mean, what is it? We create magic. Oh, yeah, experiences. Pretty much. Sprinkles fly. You could tell a woman's future by her vagina. That's what I used to say. According to your crystal balls, you just like summon.
Starting point is 00:05:46 Yeah, I don't know. According to your vagina, you got a nice future. So, no. Here's some candy that'll take you back a little bit. Do you guys remember melon heads? Yeah, of course. Oh, so good. Yeah, melon.
Starting point is 00:06:00 They were lemon heads. They were, lemon heads were good. They weren't that good. But they weren't as good as melon heads. Oh, so yeah, I like lemon heads better than melon heads. Did you really, you could still buy lemon heads or everywhere. Melon heads I haven't seen since.
Starting point is 00:06:09 I was a big nerd fan. That's what we're friends. Yeah, see. So you used to buy nerds from the, we had, we had to like kind of a ritual as kids. We would go swimming like at the community pool that was like in our area. And then on the way back, there was this place
Starting point is 00:06:24 called the fountain and we was like in our area. And then on the way back, there was this place called the fountain and we would like, you know, spend whatever like changes in our pocket on like shitty candy like that. And you get nerds. I would get nerds, yeah. We get nerds or like red ropes. Something like that.
Starting point is 00:06:37 Oh yeah, what about the, what about the, okay, you guys obviously Pixie sticks, which is just, is a very lazy way to make them. Findip was the boss. Yeah. Findip was good, but Pixie Sticks were just, it was just, hey, let's, like, let's put some sugar in our mouth.
Starting point is 00:06:49 Artificial just powder shit. It's like the candy manufacturers, like, what do we do with all this leftover, like sugar dust, like every, all the dust in the factory? Do you remember the, in these things? Do you remember the big plastic tube ones that were like, yeah, sick? Yeah, remember, get them at Great America.
Starting point is 00:07:04 Get them at Great America for like, dip in, like $2 and they're like six foot long. They're just like a tube of sugar. How much sugar do you think is in that? I never even thought about that. Let's think about that right now. I hate those kids all the time when I was a little. Hold on to your face.
Starting point is 00:07:16 Yeah, was it dextrous or sugar? It was, well, it was sugar because dextrous by itself doesn't taste that good. Okay. So it was, it was table sugar, but they made flavor it and have coloring in it. But that's all it was. It was a bunch of fucking sugar in this big tube.
Starting point is 00:07:32 It had to have, it's got to be a hundred grams of sugar. It had to have been one of the most brilliant ideas as a company like so lazy. Like how easy is this? Let's just get a fucking giant straw. We're just, ah! Let's get a giant straw for these fucking fanatics, right? And then, do you bother,
Starting point is 00:07:47 you guys gonna say it resembles like straw for cocaine for kids, you know what I'm saying? Tainty makers, they learn stuff from like, 100%. Totally, 100%. Here's your having a hustle it. Here's your having a straight one. I think that's what most drug dealers they do
Starting point is 00:08:01 and they go clean. It's like, you know, I've already made my, I've already made my 100 million on the street. Now I'm gonna parlay that into going legit. I don't know if that was true. Yeah, like all the drug dealers they do when they go clean. So like, you know, I've already made my, I've already made my 100 million on the street, now I'm gonna parlay that into going legit. I don't know what that was. It's true, yeah, like all the drug dealers. Now I'm gonna sling. I'm gonna sling go legit
Starting point is 00:08:11 and then go into the candy business. Now I'm gonna sling some drugs to kids. The, it's true because one of the more popular candies when we were kids was the gum cigarettes, the fake cigarettes. This was a real candy ladies and gentlemen for those who don't know. You got chewed to back. This was a real candy ladies and gentlemen, for those you don't know, this was a pack of pretend cigarettes. For kids, you buy it from the extra man.
Starting point is 00:08:31 I mean those, yeah. And you pull it out and it had powdered sugar in it. So you could blow in it and it would make pretend smoke. And then you unwrap and you eat the gum. And all the kids would buy it. I can't believe they got away with that shit. For a long time. For it was an old candy.
Starting point is 00:08:46 Who was behind that? Do you remember what company made that candy? Marlboro. That would be smart. It would be smart. It starts them off early. It would be really smart. They gave it away.
Starting point is 00:08:54 I'm sure they did. They gave it to him for free now. We're gonna get him for life on the cigarettes in a couple more years. Sprinkle the tiny bit of backo. Yeah, nicotine in there. So I got one, I remember the transition because at some point there was a transition
Starting point is 00:09:09 with the ice-rimmed candies where they started throwing in the Mexican candies which are disgusting, by the way. They're not candy. That goes. Don't fucking trick everybody into thinking that it's candy because it's not. It's fucking salt.
Starting point is 00:09:22 It's salt and spices. You know what I'm talking about? Oh, I remember. It's salt and spices. You don't talk about? Oh, I remember the green little packets instead. What the fuck is that? I remember when they introduced them, I'm like the lime and lime and salt. Yeah, they call it Lucas or somewhere, shit. I remember going up to the, to the,
Starting point is 00:09:36 actually, man, and I was like, oh, what's that? That looks interesting. I'll try that. Spent my hard earned 50 cents on that. Just hold it out. I'm like, oh, look, it looks like crystallized sugar. And so it's like, it out. I'm like, oh look, it looks like crystallized sugar and it's like, licking it and I'm like, what the fuck is this?
Starting point is 00:09:49 It's salt. And lime. Lime salt. What are they doing over there? That's what I mean. That reminds me. You said 50 cents, I literally had a job where I would walk this Weeners Schnitzel dog
Starting point is 00:10:00 for 50 cent piece. And then I like upgraded later on to like a silver dog. a full-size dog. Yeah, then you got a dollar This is old lady and I did it for like kind of as a favor But it was like that's how she paid me that I just remember that it was like I can save all of them So I told you guys I used to when I was a kid we had a Adouching douching dot socks. Yeah, so we had a mini one little little tiny guy aggressive as fuck and they ever tell you guys when he killed a rot wiler what? yeah you did not have a mini douch and kill a rot wiler
Starting point is 00:10:31 kill a rot wiler do it your tricks yes you did story telling 100% killed a rot wiler right in front of me like a mangled like old decree no no no was a 120 pound rot wiler
Starting point is 00:10:41 no way listen to my story oh god let's hear it listen to my story this is a tall way 120 pound rot no chase them in front of a car in a car no 120 pound rot wire no way listen to my story. Oh God. Let's hear it. Listen to my story 120 pound rot no chase them in front of a car. No, 120 pound rot wire we're listening and they in my dots and get into this Fucking just crazy scuffle and the rot wiler Shoked on the Dutch
Starting point is 00:11:08 So now I can go out tell everybody my dog my touch and kill the never happened I we keep pushing pita I know what are you doing right now? We already had that episode or do we release that episode yet? I don't know if we did I haven't got any messages yet the chicken story. Yeah, I don't think it's been released yet No, it hasn't it but we were or Doug says no I don't think it's been released yet. No, it has it but we were or Doug says no Lord Doug how many nicknames Doug's had quite a few nicknames now. This is a new one It was Doug the jug for a second now That's his that's is when we're on the road. That's his nickname on the road Why see Taylor upgraded your your little table your table or meant there. I have I had you get the spread eagle on there now
Starting point is 00:11:44 Yeah, I'm a Darth Vader and then Darth Vader's helmet your table or meant there I have I had you got the spread eagle on there now yeah I'm a Darth Vader and then Darth Vader's helmet later moved to the to dogs you know computer because he's Lord Center Lord Doug I feel like you got the cool stuff man you got the Vader you got the eagle You got the skeleton guy right by the sound I have fucking forcing I have nothing actually Yeah, I have nothing I don't need what it is is I don't need those kinds of things I have nothing actually I have nothing I don't need what it is is I don't need Those kinds of things I have I'm beyond I don't watch By the way, who's fucking epic last? Oh, dude with a crazy episode right? Oh my god
Starting point is 00:12:20 I haven't actually watched that one yet So it was cool when the fucking dude and the dragon and that one girl with a white hair and the fucking You know the white walkers and all that shit crazy stuff crazy stuff. You have been watching. Have you? Yeah, I can't not know about it. Everybody talks about it. I see it just pushes me through. Is it everywhere? It's everywhere right now, huh? Everywhere I look because it's epic. Yeah, I, so the book right now irresistible that I'm finishing up is right now getting into like TV series that were like crazy and epic and they talked about the sopranos. Did you watch the sopranos? I watched maybe like four episodes of it.
Starting point is 00:12:59 You didn't watch that either. Justin, have you watched that one yet? The sopranos. Yeah. Like the entire series. Yeah. No, I haven't seen the whole thing. So most of it. So what's so crazy about it and what they were talking about for years, people still talk about the ending of the sprannos.
Starting point is 00:13:15 Oh, and whether or not what's the second half and actually watch the ending. Yeah, so it's like it was one of the most epic endings ever. And by epic, I mean, it fucking pissed a lot of people off. And you know, some people thought it was perfect. Some people thought it was horror, but very divisive. And the creator would refuse to speak any further on it. It was like, the show is the show. Like, I don't, you know, like, what, how,
Starting point is 00:13:38 it's your interpretation. Yeah, it's how it played out. It's your interpretation, however you want, that he potentially could have got killed or maybe he went on and lived and had an happily normal life, whatever, but man, it creates. So I'll never forget the day I was watching.
Starting point is 00:13:52 I watched that when it was aired. So it wasn't like a recording. I watched it live when it was happening. I'm ever like sitting there, excited. It's the season finale and then the screen goes blank. And I remember like, ah, like yelling in the house, like checking all the wires, I thought, because they, they, they, they, they'd sent,
Starting point is 00:14:09 they'd give you like a 15 second blacked out screen pause. And you're, everybody at that moment had been thinking the same thing too, that their TV had gone out. There's something wrong. Yeah, and it just, it goes blank. God, that's so great. Oh, and I appreciate stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:14:24 Pissing off people like so many people at once. It's such a great thing to do. I love unprotectable, I love unpredictable movies and shows. Like I like the weird stuff. Yeah, me too. Katrina likes the feel good, know what's coming, shit. I hate that. Like, is what's lasted with you the longest.
Starting point is 00:14:41 It's the ones that like at the end or like throughout the series they fucking challenge you like hard Like that's what game of thrones like you identify or like you you figure you think you figured it out right you like this person They can't be and then he's dead. Yeah, that's what it's great. What the fuck? That's what it's great. It keeps throwing you off So they they talk about that in sopranos that over so Tony soprano had over a hundred I think you said a hundred orano had over a hundred, I think you said a hundred or 90 something, over a hundred or 90 something, people connected to him died throughout the whole series.
Starting point is 00:15:12 That's a lot of people over. Over in eight seasons, I think it was eight seasons or 12 seasons, eight seasons. Eight seasons. So it's a lot of, right. Think of how many people had to die. That's a lot of characters. I do like that kind of writing where you're watching something
Starting point is 00:15:25 and you think someone's a good person and then they turn out to be an asshole or the other way around. You think they're bad or they're both. That's a skill right there where you can make some of them. Breaking bad. That was groundbreaking because that whole character how he evolved and then completely turned into this other person.
Starting point is 00:15:46 And you're just like, whoa, it was hard. You know, hard for my wife even to take. She wouldn't watch the rest of the series because she had him is like, no, I felt bad for him, right? Cause he's got cancer and all this stuff. And then he turned into this evil monster. Yes, he's my man. And it's, no, I love stuff that rich.
Starting point is 00:16:02 And it challenges you, right? Cause also, and some people identify with it and you like it You know, I like them on I like the bad side of him. Yeah, you know, I'm saying like it's interesting Yeah, when he becomes kind of a fucking Doug and a badass and just like fuck yeah, dude get him You like you gotta ask yourself like Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh my god, who am I? That's exactly what I have people have evil laugh People who am I working with what you got in your cup there Adam?
Starting point is 00:16:32 Dude, let me tell you first of all. Yeah, I can hear it. I know This is my first time trying the red juice like just in the morning time. Oh the organify. Yeah, no So we got it in the other day, right? I just had it for a pre workout. So it was like four o'clock yesterday, I think. And I can't have any sort of like pre workout drink or caffeine drink, past four, or else. So it looks like it.
Starting point is 00:16:59 Yeah, good luck trying to sleep. But I thought, you know what? You were talking about some of the benefits that you felt from the quarter-ceps, and I know that the Red Juice has that in there, has that, and I think it has, no, the Green Juice has the Ashwanda, it has the quarter-ceps, and then it has... Got Rodeola, Sydney, and just saying... Yeah, and you said that you... Be Rue Kound, Rue Kound, Rue Kound.
Starting point is 00:17:21 Yeah, you said you noticed that when you worked out that you felt sustained, stamina and energy. So I thought, well, let's see if I can get anything out of this right now. And to be honest with you, I went in very skeptical because I drink a lot of caffeine coffee and I even use pre workouts every now and then. So, you know, I figured if I'm gonna take something that doesn't have a lot of stimulants in it,
Starting point is 00:17:43 I'm probably gonna be like, r not gonna feel much of it, but I What I fucking loved was I had an incredible workout. No mind you this the first time So I'm still skeptical, but I am sharing with you what my first experience with it was I Had a great stamina my right didn't feel crazy extra strong didn't sweat like crazy Like I you get from nice and and shift inside these pre workouts but I had a very solid workout normally where I feel like I'm getting you know pooped out towards 45 minutes and I'm almost done with my workout felt strong all the way through looked up at the
Starting point is 00:18:16 clock realize I'd already been in there for over an hour I thought oh shit I can go and you get out of here I've already done plenty of work and when I left the gym I felt tons of energy, and then I still didn't have a hard time going to sleep. So that was my big takeaway. So today, I'm drinking it right now. Was I wanted to see, because we have this podcast we're doing right now,
Starting point is 00:18:34 and then we have Kelly Stark coming in next. So I just wanted to see if it gave me like a nice little boost throughout the day and see how I felt. I like it so far, man. Well, so what's in it that may be doing that is, so it's got Rodeola. Rodeola is, it's been using Chinese medicine for a while.
Starting point is 00:18:51 It's got very strong evidence to show that it fights fatigue. It's good for endurance and stamina. So when people, when they tested on animals and athletes, it's actually been tested on athletes that when they're pushing themselves hard, they have more stamina. It's not really a stimulant. Now, here's the thing about rodeola. I've taken rodeola on the past at high doses, and I don't like the way it makes me feel. It reminds me of red panax jinsing, which will do the same thing to me. If I take a high dose of it, I get really hot, and then I feel feverish almost.
Starting point is 00:19:26 And my uncle, who's a, he does Chinese medicine, so he's a certified, whatever you call, Chinese herbalist, he said it's because if you have too much yang energy, hot herbs like panes, ginseng will promote too much of that and they'll feel overheated and feel kind of depressed, which is what happens to me. But so too much rodeo, it does that. This doesn't have tons and tons of rodeo, but what it does have is it's got racian it, which should balance that out. And it also has the cordo-steps and then it has Siberian ginseng. Siberian ginseng is interesting now.
Starting point is 00:20:00 If you have, in Chinese medicine, if they, if you present where you have too much yang, like I said, they'll recommend Siberian ginseng and not red panicked ginseng because Siberian ginseng has a balancing effect. So it's pretty interesting. I had some- Well, tell me if I'm doing this wrong then because I actually really enjoy mixing it with the green juice which has- Fine. Is it fine? I'm absolutely fine. Can't sing anything out. No juice, which is fine. Is it fine? I'm absolutely fine. Canceling anything out.
Starting point is 00:20:26 No, no, absolutely fine. Because I like the flavor of the green juice, which blows my mind, the fact that I actually add green juice to something for flavor. That's the best part about that. I feel like the green juice is that it's the first time I've ever had some of this stuff, and it's like, shit. And has this great minty flavor, and it goes good
Starting point is 00:20:43 with the red juice, so the combination of the two and together, which makes me feel great. So boom, I get a good serving of my daily greens, and if I get more today, that's great, but regardless, starting it off with that. It's got beet root powder in there and a few of the things that have been shown to be healthy and beneficial. A lot of athletes now are eating beets before their training. I don't know if you guys are familiar with this. I have some. It's becoming a thing. There's compounds and beats that do improve blood flow, quite effectively, in fact, more so than arganine or citrulline. Oh wow. Yeah, so a lot of endurance athletes will drink beetroot powder, just powder beetroot, or they'll eat the beets themselves,
Starting point is 00:21:26 which I think is probably the best thing to do. And they'll get stamina and endurance. I've never tasted, I've never tested it. So great when you get it from like a natural, earth-grown, vegetable or fruit versus like taking something else that's like manufacturing. That's ideal, man. It's always ideal to get food.
Starting point is 00:21:46 The thing I like about, Organify is it's all organic. Yeah, you read the label and it's like, these are all real plants. Yeah, and it's all like sourced from plants. So it's a good second place, you know what I'm saying? But yeah, a lot of people are consuming beats. And I'm starting to see now body builders are starting to do it because of the whole pump
Starting point is 00:22:06 You know, I wouldn't be surprised if beats weren't something that they consumed before going on stage For that vascularity for that particular effect. I wouldn't be surprised. Have you heard anything about beat? No, I have heard beats. I but I not to the not in bodybuilding community as much as I have with athletes taking it for sports. So I'll play with, I mean, I'm literally- It's gonna be interesting to get really, really lean. Cause right now I seem to be getting leaner. I'm not really focusing on it, but it's happening.
Starting point is 00:22:34 It'll be interesting to see if I get, cause I know when I get really lean, I can tell. I'll eat something and I'll know, I'll get vascular. Depending on you, you've noticed that, but on yourself before. So it'll be interesting to see. Yeah, and that's what I'm, I'm the same thing, right? I'm really excited.
Starting point is 00:22:47 I'm getting ready. Well, I go to Alaska next week, so that'll be kind of a wash I look at. And then when I get back, I got three weeks till we hit Olympia, and then I'll really crank it up. And that, to me, will be the, where I'll really be able to tell, because right now, I mean, when I'm, when I'm inconsistent with my nutrition where I'm not be able to tell. Cause right now, I mean, when I'm inconsistent with my nutrition where I'm not really tracking like soup.
Starting point is 00:23:09 I don't know what's doing well. Yeah, exactly. I don't know what's doing well, but I will be dialed really hard coming in. And I am not completely all over the board right now, but I'm not as consistent as when I'm measuring weighing, tracking, which I will be those final three weeks heading into Olympia right now.
Starting point is 00:23:23 I'm just kind of intuitively eating, but a little bit more calculated about it than what I was previously when I was focused on mobility, because I'm increasing volume in my training, just kind of maintaining my weight right now before we ramp it up. Dude, I got a story for you. I can't believe I've never told you guys this long time ago.
Starting point is 00:23:40 I was over at Cousin's house and we're having dinner and they're serving you know typical Italian food I pasta and the meat and salad and then they bring out a big plate of beets Which I've never eaten a lot of And when I was a kid I didn't like them. So this was like as an adult right and the way they were prepared They were fucking delicious. How did they do it? Yeah, how do you say it's different? So they were, first of all, she had, they were cold. And I'm trying to remember what she served them with.
Starting point is 00:24:12 There was some other fruit in there, something else that made it, they were just really, really good. And I actually enjoyed the taste of Beats now. I've had chocolate beet cake, which is actually not bad. Really? Yeah. Chocolate beet. It's probably just like consumed by chocolate.
Starting point is 00:24:26 So I eat a shit ton of them. Like I'm just eating a whole bunch of beef. Didn't think twice about it. This is back when I managed the 24 hour on a semi-tree-sept. I think it's a triple-turt. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, you're gonna love this.
Starting point is 00:24:42 So I wake up in the morning after, you know, dinner or whatever, wake up in the morning after, you know, dinner, whatever. Wake up in the morning to take a piss. Red. Ugh. Yeah. I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm pissing blood. What the fuck?
Starting point is 00:24:53 Yeah, I don't scare you. Call and sick. Go to the doctor. Doctors like, what did you eat the night before? Did you have beats? Yes, I ate a whole shit ton of beans. Did you know that it can make you fucking pee red? It can make you pee and poop.
Starting point is 00:25:09 Doug's nodding his head. Have you ever had that ever happen you, Doug? You poop black, right? No, red. Yeah, dude, like the color red, it's fucking frightening. Does that sound like, okay, so if you're shooting blood, I'm getting graphic here, but that typically, it's dark. It's really a dark color. Oh yeah, Tara, your if you're shooting blood and I'm getting graphic here, but like that typically like it's dark It's really a dark. Oh, yeah, Tari your poop will look really like super black and Tari
Starting point is 00:25:30 That means it's higher up in the in the track Mm-hmm if it's like bright red that means that's somewhere near the Hole you really eat all of that true. Yeah, so it's black. Yeah, that makes sense if it's Tari Black then that means that you're bleeding way up high in your system. If it's like bright red, like blood, then again, that means it's closer to the whole. I feel everybody just puckered up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:54 Oh, no! Yeah, so if you eat a lot of beets, be warned. You may be, you know, I keep saying beets and I have that like, you guys watch save by the bell Yes, beep the beep the beep go bass. Oh, what a great you remember what a great show I was like and hold on see Justin got a lot of the same things that I have this is just directed It's just the other stuff but a bunch of bullshit like noise Unfortunate unfortunately for Justin I it's random commercials and baseball
Starting point is 00:26:25 cards. You got you looked at what the help yeah it helps you out with the scientific studies over here. I wish I had the same thing same. I'm it. I that's what baseball stats and weird weird shit. That's some point. It's going to be handy dude. It's so random. I actually it's to me too. It's a if you don't use it, you lose it. Because I went through this phase, I think it was 23-ish somewhere around there. At some point, when I started managing, I started working a lot of weekends, and I gave up my Sunday football. That was the beginning of me really falling off of being like a sports fanatic. Like I was a major sport like tracked everything in stats and who was coming up from college and who was picking who up
Starting point is 00:27:11 Like I was just everything like my my two best friends are still those guys. Yeah. I once I started to work the weekends like that I had this and it was about I would say two or three years that that happened and I I fell off enough that I was not current and My buddies just gobbled me up dude. They just punked me made fun of me Give me a hard time because I just would didn't know my stats didn't know my players like I would I used to and then I could I never and then I never cared enough to continue to keep up Do you ever like like kind of fake it like you know because like you're in a situation with older guys that they'll see you wearing a specific team hat or a peril or something. And they're just throwing out stats at you
Starting point is 00:27:51 in certain players and like, holy shit, I don't know any of these people. Well, I mean, luckily for me, and I'll admit that if I know that cause there's nothing more embarrassing. I have buddies that I just, I haven't been keeping track. That's my answer.
Starting point is 00:28:04 Yeah, I'll be like, no, I have no idea who got picked up this year or whatever because if not that you look really silly when you're when you're talking about a team that you claim Is your team and you're like oh he doesn't even play for them anymore like oh? I love when people wear shirts of shit and they don't know about it happens all the time right if I wear any sports team of course You know I were because I thought it looked good and they don't know about it happens all the time, right? If I wear any sports team, of course, you know. I wore it because I thought it looked good. I feel like you should, like, that'd be awesome. My favorite, you guys know Cheg, Ravarez? Cheg, oh yeah, Cheg, I love it when people wear it.
Starting point is 00:28:35 They don't know the history and have no fucking idea of the guy. The guy completely hated, hated, opposed all forms of capitalism and you're buying a t-shirt with his face on it What it went about I don't you know, what did we see that we just saw someone wearing that you yeah I was fuck what's Beyonce's husband. What's his name? Jay Z Jay Z was wearing a fucking chess shirt hmm Jay was a fucking racist dude a horrible racist So he has that shirt. I was like do you not know what he said about black people?
Starting point is 00:29:03 Did you see the new did you see the new defiant ones? Did you watch that show? I watched one episode I keep forgetting I know it's so good. I watched the last So good of the new season. I am so into it. I told you I told you I am like it like it is hooked I watched like three in a row. I'm like ah tell me the production is ridiculous right on another level Dude, it's like watching a movie. Yeah, I'm so impressed with the with the videography of that. I mean, it's crazy how how much they've stepped their game just from the last I mean last season was great too But I personally was good, but this one's like Way better, but I want to watch to fight ones. The fight ones is very very good if
Starting point is 00:29:42 It's entertaining for sure, but because of the business that we're trying to build, it's very inspiring to watch, especially because it was my childhood, you know, a lot of these artists that they talk about, well, at least the first episode I watched, which was with Dr. Dre, but to see what they had to go through the trials and tribulations and how they,
Starting point is 00:30:00 so strongly believed in what they were doing, they were compelled to do what they were doing. So is it kind of take from, because I loved straight out of Compton, one of my favorite movies, but does it take like sort of from then forward? Like his background or the whole thing? It talks about the beginning and his relationship
Starting point is 00:30:19 with that one producer, that a tying guy, the shaved head, smaller dude, I can't remember his name, and they kind of talks about both their stories about how they got into music. And it's great, it's just, I love listening to stories like that, they're very inspiring, it's great to hear about people who just overcame odds,
Starting point is 00:30:38 had an incredible talent, but the drive and the work that went behind it. Because it's almost never... Is it Amazon or is it... HBO. Oh, it's HBO, it's an HBO series almost never... Is it Amazon or is it... HBO. Oh, it's HBO. It's an HBO series. Oh, cool.
Starting point is 00:30:48 Okay, so I have that. And did they release like... There's like four episodes. That's it. Okay, so I was wondering if they did it like that. Because you know, some of the shows now, you know, instead of trickling it out, the whole season, they release it at once, right?
Starting point is 00:31:02 So when you get the like Netflix, does that right? Netflix, when it's season, like... I Netflix does that, right? Netflix when it sees it. I don't know. I have the HBO on demand. So I can go and watch whatever series I want, you know, whichever episode. So I think that might be playing. I think HBO still drips theirs. I'm not sure. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:31:15 It's really good. I'm sure somebody will let me know. All right. Perform. Bring on the defiant bird. Defiant. Defiant. We call it a planet. Chimeracock!
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Starting point is 00:31:54 What's the best way to increase hunger and be able to eat more? Oh, I like this question. Yeah, no, I did it for you, buddy. Did you? I picked that one just for you. You know why? Because I feel like we talk so much about losing weight and leaning out and all these strategies. That's most of fitness, right? It's usually about around that.
Starting point is 00:32:09 Well, it is. And so that's why we talk about it. But I still feel like there's got to be a big portion of people that can relate to what I went through as a young man growing up and trying to build muscle. And this was a major challenge for me. I couldn't, I could not keep up. You know, and they always used to tell me, oh, don't worry could not keep up. And they always used to tell me,
Starting point is 00:32:26 oh, don't worry, that'll change. And they were right, you know, fucking 30 years old is totally opposite. Now it's just like, fuck, just think about getting fat to get fat. So, but as a young adult growing up and lifting, I had a really hard time consuming enough calories. And it was a combination of things, right?
Starting point is 00:32:45 Aside from being already a fast metabolism or faster metabolism, because I think I just have that genetically already. But I'm also a six foot three guy, and I'm very active. I played a lot of sports. You also sprouted all at once. Didn't you? I did.
Starting point is 00:33:03 That's got to take a lot of energy from your body to do that. Right, right. You know, I'm gonna, how many calories? Because you went from, you told me you were short up until I was. I played point guard my freshman in sophomore year in high school and it was my junior year. I sprouted up over six foot before that. I was like five three. So I was like five three five four in high like five three, five four in high school. Fuck off. No way. Wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:33:28 How many inches did you gain in one year? I went all the way to six foot, I believe. So I went from five, like, I was five, three and a half, five four, my sophomore year, and then my junior year, I sprouted up to six. Holy shit. Over a summer. Well, no wonder you couldn't gain weight.
Starting point is 00:33:43 How painful was that? Your body was all going, it was all going to your bones. So, it wasn't painful, but what I did realize, and I remember, I totally remember this feeling of, so I always played soccer too, right? So I played soccer for over seven years as a kid growing up. I played all, I played it and then I played basketball.
Starting point is 00:33:58 So those were my two main like organized sports. I played all sports, but those were my two organized ones. And I was actually the better soccer player until I shot up and then I got so lucky that I was not, my proprioception was off. Like my body awareness was so different. Wow, you remember that? Oh, I told him.
Starting point is 00:34:17 I'm very much so. I, there was a moment, I'll never forget playing soccer practice in high school. And they, they kicked the ball towards, and I actually just grabbed it. I just caught it. And it was a reaction to protect myself from getting hit right in the face with it. And anybody who's playing soccer for every knows better to ever use your hands. And so that was, and for someone who's been playing as long as I had, that's not even a natural reaction.
Starting point is 00:34:42 But because my body did not have the responsiveness that it had, that I was so used to for so many years, that that became like my default was to protect my face. And I remember that like what the fuck, I'm even questioning myself like what did you just do right there? And then I remember feeling myself cutting left and right on the soccer field.
Starting point is 00:35:01 And I used to be one of the fastest guys on the field. And I went from being one of the fastest guys on the field. And I went from being one of the fastest guys on the field, if not the fastest, to one of the slowest. And I just did not have the footwork that I had before, the body awareness, it was a very awkward time for me. Now, at that same time, I was playing basketball, and luckily, I was a point guard in basketball, which required you to have good handles
Starting point is 00:35:25 and ability to dribble well. So here I'm sprouting up. I had good footwork as a point guard. So even though I started to get a little awkward and tall and lanky, it actually worked to my benefit being a tall basketball player because most big men, if anyone's familiar with the sport,
Starting point is 00:35:42 power forwards and centers are not the best with ball handling and footwork because they're big and lanky. But because I had trained myself so well as a point guard to handle the ball and cut and move, as I linked out, I lost some of that ability, but I still was so much farther ahead than the kids that were always tall and lanky. So it worked well for basketball,
Starting point is 00:36:04 and I did better that way, but yeah, no, I'm sure that had something to do with it. But I was playing basketball every single day, literally of my life for probably 10, 15 years. And on top of that, on the weekends, I was snowboarding and wakeboarding. And I was always into paintballing and I was doing extreme, real high activity type stuff.
Starting point is 00:36:25 And I was lifting weights trying to build muscle. And I was totally going every day I could in the gym. Like it was, I thought the more I lifted these weights, the bigger I would get. And I just had a really hard time growing. And it wasn't until later that I realized that it was my inability to eat enough. Then I tried it to out eat my activity. And that was a constant losing battle before I finally realized that I've my inability to eat enough. Then I tried it to out eat my activity,
Starting point is 00:36:45 and that was a constant losing battle before I finally realized that I've just got to chill out. I've got to lay off the activity. I'm way too, if I cared about building, right? And this is, I think every young man that struggles with this, goes through this moment where you decide, what is more important to you?
Starting point is 00:37:04 Do you want to get bigger and build more muscle and be more like a body builder? Or do you really enjoy playing all these sports? And it's probably not the ideal situation for you to put on 20 pounds of muscle. What which one's more important? Now, there's now, and I think it's important to note that there's there are kids that have the ability to kind of do both. We've all those are mess or morph type body types, even though we don't believe in semano types really. Those those guys and girls that can be muscular and play sports have a specific body type.
Starting point is 00:37:35 I did not. I had an I was a Lanky tall swimmer body looking guy who was playing sports and also wanted to look like a bodybuilder. And my body just said, fuck you. No way. You're not going to do that. And yes, I could, but then it would require me to make some sacrifices. And for me, it was cutting back on a lot of my sports in order for me to. And I tell you what, I got all kinds of tips for somebody in this area.
Starting point is 00:38:00 Like, for example, something I learned early on was, if I had a really high fat type of meal in the morning, which is how I eat now, ironically, if I were to eat like a breakfast today, bacon and whole eggs and, you know, a high fat type of breakfast, that was bad for someone trying to build because it would satiate me. And then I wouldn't want to eat for four or five, six hours later. And for me to get enough calories and food in, I need to be eating every couple hours to get to that caloric intake that I needed to eating these high fat meals. So I had to stay lower or leaner as far and lower fat earlier on in the day. So I could consume meal after meal after meal and then I would pile calories on at the end of the night.
Starting point is 00:38:49 So that was a major strategy for me. And I know some people are not gonna like to hear this, but something that also worked very well for me was this is also when I introduced cannabis into my life. I used smoking weed to push me over. Did you do a bunch of things? Yeah, no, I used it for that as a strategy. I would eat my big, huge dinner meal.
Starting point is 00:39:09 So let's say I'd consume about 3,000 calories throughout the day, which is a pretty good amount of calories for the average person, leading into the evening. And then dinner, I'd have like a thousand calorie dinner, pushes me at 4,000 calories. And then I would go smoke weed, and then I'd turn around and eat another 500 to 4,000 calories, and then I would go smoke weed, and then I'd turn around and eat another 500 to 1,000 calories afterwards,
Starting point is 00:39:27 and that was a big contributor to me putting on some weight and size. So not that I'm advocating you smoke weed, just saying. So, yeah, maybe a kid we're talking to. Yeah. So I know who Mark is. If he's a grown ass man. Before I give you some tips and tricks to help you eat more,
Starting point is 00:39:43 we need to also be very clear on the signal of hunger. The signal of hunger is a very fine-tuned signal that we evolved to have, and it will propel you if you're healthy to eat what you need to based on what your body thinks it needs. Okay? So step number one is if you have malhunger or you have poor hunger where you don't have an appetite, it's probably you may have some issues going on with your health. Activity tends to stimulate hunger. Building muscle for sure will stimulate hunger. In fact, if you train properly to where you send the right signal where your body wants
Starting point is 00:40:24 to build muscle, you should notice an increase in appetite because your body is trying to fuel that adaptation. I also don't like the concept of forcing issues on the body. I know we all have goals, I get that, but sitting here stuffing my face with food, which I did, I did it for years. I was a skinny kid I started lifting weights at 13 years old. So I know this very very well is No better for you than starving yourself in the in the sense of how Your relationship to food ends up Turning out and becoming
Starting point is 00:40:59 I I didn't look at food in terms of health or not I looked at in terms of calories and I calories, so that meant if I had to eat in a thousand calories, well, there's a pint of ice cream, that works out just fine, or let me add a glass of whole milk to every meal, or let me blend this food up because it's easier to drink it, no shit, than it is to eat it.
Starting point is 00:41:19 I used to do that too. I'd blend up, it wasn't out of the ordinary for me to blend up chicken breast or tuna fish, and a blender with water and fruit and just fucking plug my nose and pound it. This is why, to this day, my girlfriend laughs when if I'm taking a tincture of like an herb, medicinal purposes like I'm getting sick or whatever,
Starting point is 00:41:38 and I'll just straight take the tincture in my mouth, no problem, and she's like, how can you do that? So discussing, I'm like, you have no idea how I train my body as a kid to consume disgusting shit because I was always trying to gain weight. So number one, rule number one is get healthy, get good sleep, and send the right signal to your body.
Starting point is 00:41:57 And your appetite should be healthy. Okay, you should have a healthy appetite. Now besides that, ways you can kind of make yourself eat more is realize that the body's signal of satiety can be fooled a little bit by messing with how palatable your food is. And what I mean by that is if I eat a big savory meal with lots of fat and salt. There you sugar, trick. There you go. I may be, I'll get satiated pretty quick where I'm like, oh, I can't eat another piece of steak like I'm just full.
Starting point is 00:42:32 But if you would introduce something sweet like some fruit, all of a sudden, I override that system and I'm able to eat more food. So that's something you can do. But at the end of the day, let's consider this. Here's the, let's look at the science. Let's say you want to gain a pound of muscle a week, which by the way, if you're gaining a pound of muscle a week, you're on fucking fire.
Starting point is 00:42:54 Like you are doing really, really well. It's signal is loud. You've got a good muscle building signal, your crushing, you're probably a beginner because you can't expect to gain a pound of muscle a week if you're advanced. It's very difficult to do, but let's say you are. There's about, I don't know, 120 grams of protein within that pound of muscle,
Starting point is 00:43:14 and if you count all the energy and stuff like that, I don't know, how many calories and grams you think will go into building that pound of muscle? 600 calories, maybe maybe divide that over the whole week. It's less than 100 calories a day. You don't need a shit ton of calories to gain lots of muscle. You just don't. In fact, I've trained young kids and I've had them do it the right way and they'll just gain lean mass versus the way I would do where I would just stuff the fuck out of myself, make myself sick, gain weight on the scale, but
Starting point is 00:43:44 that kind of was a little bit of fat and a little bit of muscle then when I try and get lean, I'd lose both as well. This is also why I always tell people the wearables, the trackers and the tracking or food, because so you're aware of this. Like, otherwise, because I remember being a kid and just stuffing and not having a clue, am I, is that enough? I know I worked out a lot today.
Starting point is 00:44:05 Like I, still to this day is a 35 year old man. I fluctuate dramatically. The difference between a Sunday day of movement and activity for me is extremely different than a day like today where I was up at five o'clock in the morning. You're talking about a thousand calorie burn difference. That's a lot when you're a guy who's trying to build muscle and be living in a caloric surplus.
Starting point is 00:44:30 So becoming aware of your activity and what your body's burning and what you're actually consuming. So you don't make the mistake that South is talking about because you're right. You don't need to be in this massive surplus. People, there's this misconception of how, and I was, I know I was way off the kid.
Starting point is 00:44:46 I mean, I was sick stuffing my stomach. I just think there's a lot of people who train poorly and then, and that's why they're, I'm not gaining muscle, like they're programming's off. So they stuff their face because they're like, oh, it's food because we've been told that now for years through the bodybuilding community that, oh, it's not your, you can't over train,
Starting point is 00:45:02 you can only under eat or it's not your workout stuff your face, you know, stuff your face and you'll gain muscle. That's not true. Good. The right signaling will put muscle on you. Look, I'll give you an example. Here's a great example. Take a fucking person, a guy or girl wants to build muscle and they're struggling. Like they're doing the workout, they're reading, you're like, I can't gain a single pound of muscle. Don't have them increase their calories at all. Keep your food exactly the same. Give them anabolic steroids. What do you think will happen? They're going to gain a single pound of muscle. Don't have them increase their calories at all. Keep your food exactly the same.
Starting point is 00:45:25 Give them anabolic steroids. What do you think will happen? They're gonna gain a little bit of muscle because now they've got another signal telling their body to put on some muscle. Well, that's the same with your workouts too, and you're sleeping everything else. Like, you don't need to stuff your face.
Starting point is 00:45:39 If you're to the point, again, this is all within the sphere of being healthy because if you have poor appetite because your sleep is off, your high stress, your depressed, there's something wrong with your hormones, your gut floors off, that's totally different. But let's say you're healthy and you're eating and you're like, man, I can't eat any more food, but I want to gain muscles. Do I need to like, should I choke this chicken breast down? No, no, you shouldn't like listen to your body.
Starting point is 00:46:04 If you're not gaining muscle at that point, then examine the other things, examine your routine, look at your workout. People don't look at the workout enough. No, that was a big game changer for me when I put that piece together too. Because I think there was levels of this for me as because for most of my life,
Starting point is 00:46:20 I struggled with putting weight in size on. So for it took me a long time to get to the size I am now or get to a point where I struggled with putting weight in size on. So for it took me a long time to get to the size I am now or get to a point where I say like, well, yeah, it's a lot easier for me to put body fat on than it is to lean out. So I definitely think that there's levels to getting here. You know, I think that the programming is definitely a piece. I had, I realized it was overlooked piece, you know, yeah, you can argue for trying to gain muscle. I Realized real quick that going from seven workouts down to like four workouts and making those four workouts more effective and doing better movements And not training the other days made a big impact like you know
Starting point is 00:47:00 I was going in the gym every day and hammering high intensity workouts. I brought down my intensity level, did better movements and exercises and trained less, and actually saw a huge gain. I saw my body. There's actually literally like instituted rest periods. And you like deliberately focused on what it means to strength train, which I feel like a lot of people decide to train hard and then they get caught up into interrupting their rest periods with adding more intensity by cutting their rest periods. That's a common thing that people don't even realize
Starting point is 00:47:37 they do that because they get antsy-pancy. And just like any athlete wants to perform and to sit there deliberately and like make your body You know go through that process of You know just deliberately telling it this one thing I need I need to get better at this one thing and then also like adding in power element to it like you know Let's focus on power. Let's stimulate the CNS in a different direction. So it all contributes to more muscle building techniques that you need to apply. I wouldn't I would actually take days off
Starting point is 00:48:12 too. So for me because the food thing was a piece that I needed to get better at and that was missing there and I knew that. I would treat my workouts as a reward reward for my diet and nutrition being dialed in. So I would figure out what I need to eat, calorie wise, nutrition wise, what I needed to grow and build. And I would say, okay, like I got to earn that good workout because if I go, I could really easily get caught up in that trap that you're talking about right now where I'm just training intense and hitting it hard, hoping that that's what's going to make me grow when in reality, like let's say it's four o'clock which was the normal time I was training back then
Starting point is 00:48:49 and it was time to hit the gym and I'm like, oh shit, like I didn't eat this morning. Yesterday was kind of a light day on calories, like me going and just burning a bunch more is probably not the most ideal thing for me to do if I want to build, you know what I should do? Go to the grocery store, go make some meals, get myself prepared to have a more successful day tomorrow. And so I would make choices like that. And it was hard for me to do that because I was trained to go to the gym.
Starting point is 00:49:13 I love to go to the gym. I love to work out. It always feels good. You can just mass a pump and you'll break this sweat. And the athlete and me wants to do those things. It took a lot of discipline for me to say, you haven't earned the gym. You need to get your diet dialed in better, you need to be nutritionally ready to build, you're not setting yourself up for success because you're living in this chloric deficit, and then you're going to go burn a bunch more. Are you really helping yourself out? You're catabolic, you know? So I think that's also something that I had to piece together. Before we go to the next question, I want to be clear, eating boosting your calories does cause a small anabolic building effect,
Starting point is 00:49:47 but it's short, it is not long. So you can boost your calories and notice you're gonna build more muscle just from the more calories. It's about two or three weeks before you can switch out of that, otherwise it just goes straight to fat storage. So that's all we talk about the mini-bulks. Quick commercial break, you guys.
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Starting point is 00:50:30 Just started doing more core work. Lower back is now a problem. What am I doing wrong? This is common. You know how many times people will tell me, I can't do this core exercise or this ab exercise because it hurts my lower back. You know, it's great about this question was, I can't do this core exercise or this ab exercise because it hurts my lower back. He knows forcing back. You know, it's great about this question was, and I don't know how long this person's
Starting point is 00:50:48 been with us, but the most controversial viral video or post that Sal is ever done is addresses this exact reason why we encourage the plank the way he did that post. And it's boy, did it stir up so much shit in the fucking fitness professional community because everybody was the staple. It was the crown jewel of core exercise. Right. Everybody knows to be a certain way. Right. And this is just, this exact question is very common and very normal.
Starting point is 00:51:21 And it's something that the three of us have dealt with a ton of fucking times and it's the reason why, you know, when Sal did that post, why he puts that emphasis on the people rotating their pelvis in is because we know that most people that get in that position, that think they're working their core are really just stressing the fuck out of their low back and their shoulders when they get in.
Starting point is 00:51:44 They haven't set themselves up properly from the very beginning. Which is, I'm guessing the direction you were just about to go, Sal, with this is that more than likely that's what's going on with these people doing this. Yeah, so the front side of the core is part of the, is, you know, your abs, the bleaks and all the internal muscles stabilize your trunk
Starting point is 00:51:59 just like your lower back does. If one muscle isn't doing what it's supposed to, others muscles will take over. Now your core does a few functions, does quite a few functions. The main ones are it stabilizes. It flexes you at the spine, both to the front, to the back, to the sides.
Starting point is 00:52:18 And it rotates. And it rotates, okay. Now when you're feeling low back problems or low back pain, unless you have a low back issue where you actually have an injury, many, many times it has to do with the hip flexors and one hip flexure in particular, the so-as. The so-as muscle is a hip flexor that attaches at the lower spine and it goes through the body kind of in front of the pelvis and attaches at the femur at the top of the leg.
Starting point is 00:52:46 When that muscle is doing more than it should, it tends to get tight and inflamed. And the pain you'll feel is at the attachment at the lower back. And you'll know this when you go do leg raises or sit-ups, and you're like, man, I don't feel my abs working at all. I just feel like my lower back is tight. Well, what's happening is your lower back is tightening and arching. Your abs are stabilizing, but they're stabilizing in this kind of extended position, and you're flexing at the hips, which is the hip flexors, and you're feeling low back pain. So what you need to do is you need to learn how to flex at the spine.
Starting point is 00:53:18 Which we did a video series on this. We did. We did that with Dick, right? We brought Dick over and did talk to all about this exact point right here. We did that and then we did a hip flexor deactivator. It's called video where I show people how to get there. If you are not subscribed to Mind Pump TV on YouTube, get over there. This is what this is the whole idea. Where all our visuals are. Right. We talk all day but like to see it's a totally
Starting point is 00:53:45 different experience and a lot of people don't know how to use YouTube I didn't know when we first started this it was until way later and I figured out how organized and nice it is when you go to YouTube you subscribe to my pump TV then after that you'll see up in the top of the the channel there's a there's a tab that says playlist you click on the playlist and then Doug is organized them in topics like this. And I believe that one falls under core or corrective or something like that. I mean, you'll see the different playlist. This was a game changer for me a while ago.
Starting point is 00:54:15 I had, I was able to get really lean and I could get pretty muscular. And I really only have like a visible six pack when I get shredded and if I get pretty muscular. And I'd really only have a visible six pack when I get shredded and if I flexed them. But I never had abs that were visible relaxed. I always always envy us to that. Like, fuck, look at that guy over there. He's totally relaxed, he's lean, but you could totally see a six pack.
Starting point is 00:54:36 That didn't really happen to me unless I got super, super shredded. And then I didn't realize it was because my abs weren't well developed. And part of the reason why they weren't well developed is I didn't understand their, I didn't understand working them because my abs weren't well developed. And part of the reason why they weren't well developed is I didn't understand their, I didn't understand working them in a full range of motion, which is at the, you know, flexing and extending at the lumbar spine, that at the hips.
Starting point is 00:54:53 Once I figured that out and I started to really learn how to flex and extend at the lumbar spine and then use resistance to build them, my abs really started, they built out to the point where now I don't even have to be super lean and you can kind of see at least the top two rows of my abs kind of sticking out and I really started developing kind of this nice strong built core. But before that I would experience low back pain too. I would do leg raises or Roman chair sit ups and to feel like my back would tweak and I just didn't realize that I was totally doing it wrong. So one exercise I can recommend is a straight up floor crunch. This is the video that we have,
Starting point is 00:55:32 which we'll put in the show notes. You lay on the floor, put your feet up on the bench, press into the bench with your heels so that your butt comes off the floor just a little bit, and what you're doing is you're activating the glutes and the hamstrings. While activating those muscles, do some slow crunches where your squeeze really hard.
Starting point is 00:55:49 What's happening by activating the glutes and the hamstrings is you're in a way taking the hip flexors out of the movement, because you're flexing the opposing muscles, the hip flexors tend to relax, and it's gonna help you separate the abs from the hip flexors. What you have is a recruitment pattern problem. You could very well have strong core muscles by the way. It's just that your hip flexors are doing more than they should or firing when they should. They're becoming your
Starting point is 00:56:18 default and it's causing low back problems. So once you fix that issue right there then you'll slowly be able to progress to the more intense, heavy resistance, ab exercises like leg raises and Roman chair sit-ups and all that other stuff. So although I don't know what your form is, I don't know what your problems are, I can say with pretty good certainty that the odds are you probably are in that category where you're just hit flexor dominant Yeah, I mean he could totally benefit from the six pack The nobiast
Starting point is 00:56:52 Yeah, like it's all outlined in that in a program that you know I kind of revisited myself and been going through that and it's really helpful just goes through all these like New wants techniques to you know help get more proper engagement with that and really focus and hone in on that proper signal. So if this is already an issue, you know, that's something to consider. Talk about an underrated program, by the way, the No BS6 pack. I literally put that together with part of this as one of the issues in there. But it's just the workout that you can add to your workout specifically for core to build the muscles of your core so they are more visible so you have more of those pronounced abdominals and defined obliques and all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:57:30 But really a lot of it has to do with form and then the other part which I address in the program is how to use resistance for your core because they build like any other muscle. Next up is Kylie. What should a warm up routine consist of? Priming. This has changed a lot for me. It's a big time. Over the years, big time. I used to view warming up as injury prevention.
Starting point is 00:57:53 That was it. There was no other purpose or goal for the warm up. It was all about, you know, getting blood flow. Get blood flow. Make my joints feel better. You know, when I was younger, I almost never feel better. You know when I was younger I Almost never warmed up. God, I when I was really young. I would just get into the bar
Starting point is 00:58:10 Then as I got a little older my warm up consisted of doing that exercise with lighter weight and moving up and weight That was it then as I got a little older it consisted of foam rolling and stretching because then that would help me with pain and like that. And then more recently was a huge for me, a huge, just mind blowing paradigm shift with how I approached warming up. And that was that, I understood that warming up, sure, it should definitely help prevent injury, but that's the least it should could do. That's like the minimum, like the bare minimum of what a warm up could do is help prevent
Starting point is 00:58:51 injury. It's like a car, like the bare minimum a car is going to do is drive you from point A to point B, but it can do a whole lot more too, right? With your warm up, if you do it properly, your warm up should prime your body for your workout. And what it's doing is it is setting the stage for recruitment patterns that are favorable. It's setting the stage for your central nervous system to fire effectively and efficiently
Starting point is 00:59:18 so that when you go do your lifts, you're getting the most out of them because I'll use a barbell squat and a barbell deadlift as an example Both exercises extremely effective at building muscle and strength everybody knows that Both of them have a potential that they can give you Let's say that potential is a 10 let's say that you do that exercise you get 10 points from it or that's the potential If you do a priming session properly before you do those exercises
Starting point is 00:59:44 You're gonna get a tan out of that exercise. Yeah. If you go into it and you don't do a good priming, you might only get a six or seven. So you may not even reap the benefits of that exercise because you didn't prime properly. I have an analogy in bear with me, Sal, this is a sports analogy. Oh shit. But yeah, I look at it like, so a golfer, right? So if they're about to approach a game,
Starting point is 01:00:08 they're about to get into, you know, a tournament and they haven't walked the grass. They haven't gone through. They haven't like really visually, like gone through the experience of, wow, okay, the dog legs left here. You know, like this is how, this is my elevation. This is what the sand trap is over here. Like all these factors of just, you know,
Starting point is 01:00:33 going through visually, you know, like walking through and teaching the body, you know, the mechanics to recognize, you know, what are the correct pathways for me to get to this destination? As I go through each hole, it differs. If I can start thinking of that in terms of my workouts, this is definitely almost overly planning, but you could get really specific if you so desire, like you can teach your body things to really, you know, set it in hard wire these processes.
Starting point is 01:01:09 So you get so much more effectiveness out of, you know, what you're trying to accomplish every single workout. And that might sound like daunting, but if you can kind of pull back and just keep, you know, very, very specific movements that you know will enhance pushing pulling overhead positions, things like that that you can reinforce. Think about how much better your body is going to perform. Working out is very much so a skill and I don't think that we treated that way enough. I think that people look at exercise
Starting point is 01:01:47 or working out as exercise. This is how I lose body fat. This is how I build muscle. It's burning calories, sweat. Right, burn calories build muscle. And there's so much more to it. And every movement you perform in that gym is a skill. And some of them are a crazy skill. Squatting and
Starting point is 01:02:06 deadlifting and overhead pressing is a major skill, like playing a sport skill. And other movements like a bicep curl or tricep push down, still a skill just doesn't take as much skill. And so when you go into a workout, your warmup is preparing you for that skill that you are about to go perform. And like the analogy, salgave of, you know, you may, if you don't, you may only get a six out of that skill, out of that exercise because you didn't prime your body properly, you may get a 10 if you do that. Some people are genetically gifted and get a nine right out the gate without even priming whatsoever. One thing is for certain that I know now being older is if you don't over time, that will diminish.
Starting point is 01:02:53 So maybe as a young athlete or a young kid, when you first performed some of these movements, you got right into it, you felt strong, you felt great, and you were, you're getting eights right out the gate out of the skill, meaning that you were getting decent returns from your squats, decent returns from your deadlifts. You probably weren't getting a 10 because you weren't priming properly and you still could get more of it. You just didn't know you could get a 10 because you felt like you were getting progress from that. As you age, that is going to diminish because throughout the day, you don't spend 24
Starting point is 01:03:23 hours squatting and deadlifting, you spend it sitting at desks, driving in a car, you know, sitting at a computer, sitting in front of a TV, playing video games, whatever it is that you do, you spend more time doing that than you do these movements. So what ends up happening is you start to create these patterns in different pathways and then you go to go perform this skill that you didn't treat as a skill later on and now your body starts talking to you and you start feeling these aches, these pains, you start seeing diminishing returns, you're starting to go like what the fuck and then it seems around 30 or so
Starting point is 01:03:57 everybody wakes the fuck up and goes oh shit maybe I should be doing some sort of a warm-up or getting myself ready. I think those that start to put these routines in place at a younger age are going to will surpass most the rest of us and will avoid a lot of nagging pains and injuries and potential surgeries that a lot of people end up going through because they waited until their body yelled at them and said, what the fuck are you doing? You have no business squatting, you're doing this movement until you actually properly warmed up. But it really depends on what you're about to do that day.
Starting point is 01:04:36 This is really what Maps Prime and Prime Pro were to address was, okay, here's your workout for the day. These are the movements you're going to be performing. These are the, this is how you should prime your body to get ready for these specific skills because each of them are different. The way you prime your body before you go do bicep day and you go do, if you're going to, if you have a split that you do, is totally different than how you prime your body and get ready for squat day It read the totally require different Different parts of your body to speak and you got to understand that all lifting weights
Starting point is 01:05:14 If you don't tell the body how you want it to communicate It's going to take the easiest path for sure. It's going to go it'll cheat It'll compensate it'll do whatever it takes to move the weight. Because that's all you're telling it with the brain. If you say lift this weight up, pick it up over my head, your body will do whatever it needs to do to do that. But if you're going to do this properly, get the most bang for your buck and not hurt yourself, you want to do it in a certain manner that doesn't risk injury and gets you the most bang for your buck, which requires you to understand how to prime for this.
Starting point is 01:05:45 And it's also individual. It's very individual. If one person could prime completely different than the next person for the same workout and the same exercises based on their natural or their current recruitment patterns, based on their posture or previous injury or whatever, I'll give you an easy, here's a very easy example. If I have a lot of issues with my thoracic spine, which is kind of my mid back or my shoulder blades are, right? If I have issues where that's excessively rounded and my shoulder blades like to be rounded
Starting point is 01:06:17 forward and I know I'm going to go do some heavy squats and I know to have a good squat, I should have my shoulder blades pinched down and back and I should have my chest nice and open and wide. Then a prime for me, maybe, to work on that movement, you know, getting my shoulder blades pinned back, opening my chest, maybe stretching my chest out, stretching my shoulders out, you know, activating my mid back with some, you know, specific movements. Before I do the squat, because then when I get into the squat, boom, I'm in position. Yeah, you respond right away.
Starting point is 01:06:49 What you don't want to do is get into the squat and try and figure it out when you've got a heavy weight on your back. Because now, like Adam was saying, it's going to go to that default to that old pattern. And then you're strengthening that pattern. What you train is what you strengthen. So if you don't prime properly, you're
Starting point is 01:07:05 going to train these patterns that may not be or likely not ideal, which is not a good path. Which goes back to why, I mean, it's been a while since I've harped on running, but this is why I'm not a big runner and why I'm not a big fan of clients doing that unless you are specifically training for a marathon or sport, because if you have these bad patterns and then you go run, like nothing is cementing that more than that. I mean, you just repetitive. I tell you what, you know, I know we've said in the past, if they only treated crossfit like a sport, people would trade better.
Starting point is 01:07:38 Running is the same thing. If people ran and treated it like a sport, like a skill, rather than just trying to sweat and go to go to exhaustion. Great point. People would run well. I'm gonna extend that. You should treat all exercise that way. All of it. I don't care what you do.
Starting point is 01:07:51 If you treat all your workouts, going in, understanding that you're perfecting the skill and the technique and the movement, then you're gonna take care of a lot of those problems you're not gonna have, and you're gonna get better results. You're far less likely to overwork, over train, over apply intensity, and hurt yourself and create bad recruitment patterns.
Starting point is 01:08:08 Because what we say about running is the same thing I could say about got people who lift weights. The thing about lifting weights is, there's nothing passive about it. It's like everything has to be intentional. Yeah. And I know people wanna sort of make that
Starting point is 01:08:21 in easier process and make it more general. But you know, that's what that's the kind of results you're going to get as a result, right? Like you're going to you're going to end up doing what you've already established as being the strong way to get through something. Well, I think when you when people lift weights, the reason why it happens when people work out with weights too, but the reason why it doesn't happen as much with weights as it might with running is because at least when you lift weights there is more of an emphasis on form.
Starting point is 01:08:50 When people go running, there's no emphasis on running us form. It's like, hey, I'm going to start running. Oh, me too. Let's go together. And then you just run. You just go run because you think it's this natural thing that you do. But it's not because you never fucking right up. Let's move. So, and if it's super high intensity focus, like a circuit class, or like some of the bad cross-fit boxes that'll just push intensity, then it's not about for me there.
Starting point is 01:09:13 It's all about fatigue and how many reps you can do, which encourages bad recruitment patterns. So, when you go into your workout, treat it like a skill, your priming session is that. By the way, a good priming session will take you. I mean, if you follow Maps Prime, you're priming for about 10, 12 minutes, maybe 15 minutes, and then you're ready to roll, which is how long your warm-up should have taken anyway. And I promise you, you'll see better results.
Starting point is 01:09:36 In fact, I've had people message me now, we've had Prime out for a while. People will send me messages and are like, you know what, I didn't change my work at all. All I did was change my warm up, I switched out for prime, and I added 15 pounds in my bench press and 30 pounds in my squat. Oh, that's every time someone sends me a question like this.
Starting point is 01:09:52 I just tell them, now it's just easier. Listen, there's a money back guarantee on all of our programs. Get prime, implement it in your program. The prime bundle. Yeah, two weeks. Well, first time, you don't even need two weeks. The first time you implement it and actually go through it You should we'll see a difference in your work 100% 100%
Starting point is 01:10:10 Especially if you're some the the older you get so you start getting beyond 25 30 30 5 40 the more dramatic of a difference You'll see and and what the reason why I can say that with confidence is I know that over time the older we get, the more common it is that you have bad patterns that you've created. Right. And so if I give you a program or a tool that's going to help you correct that, those people will notice more of a dramatic difference. And you know what, if you were somebody that like, if you came back and you said, you know, I know it's a little bit different so much, well, lucky you that you haven't got, you're
Starting point is 01:10:42 not that fucked up yet. So keep doing it, don't stop doing it. Because the rest of us, the rest of us, that implement that will notice a huge difference. I'll say this, even if you feel healthy, no problems, whatever, prime properly, and you'll be able to squeeze out like one or two more reps or a little bit more weight on your lips, or you'll just feel like you'll get
Starting point is 01:11:00 under the bar, and you'll just get into it. So you'll notice, that's the bottom line. You'll notice right away. Squeeze it out. Quick commercial break. Hey, people ask us all the time how they can support mind pump. Here's what you can do. You can go to www.brain.fm-forward-mind-pump
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Starting point is 01:11:47 You know, Johnny Dumbbell. You know what? Wow. What a deep question, right? It is. You know what? I think first we should be... That's a fucking episode.
Starting point is 01:11:55 We should be pretty clear. We should. I think we'll do a whole episode, but let's be very clear. I don't think you should ever sacrifice your health for anything. Let's be honest. I've been around people who are very sick. I've been around people who are very sick, I've been around people who, I've known people who are
Starting point is 01:12:08 shredded, looked amazing, and their health fucking turned on them. And let me tell you, I don't care, would you wanna look amazing and have horrible health? How would anybody want that? That was a make-a-dee sense. You wouldn't enjoy anything with that, whether it be mental or physical health. Now, the question, I know why he asked the question.
Starting point is 01:12:27 He's asking the question because in fitness, we have this perception that it's one or the other. That you're either... You can't live in both. Really healthy or you've got great aesthetics and you can't have both. And this is false. It could be more false. This is false and let me explain what I mean by this. If you chase aesthetics, if aesthetics is your only goal and that's all I care about, And this is false. It could be more false. This is false and let me explain what I mean by this.
Starting point is 01:12:45 If you chase aesthetics, if aesthetics is your only goal, and that's all I care about, is how I look. Here's where that road will may end up taking you. I'm glad you just said that word. It may end up taking it. That's a good, it's, I'm glad you said may because it doesn't necessarily mean it's going to be beautiful. If you just focus on aesthetics, that's all you're a focus on.
Starting point is 01:13:03 You need to understand that aesthetics is subjective and it is a moving goal post and you will never reach that goal. Many times most people will get to the point where they reach a goal and it's the next goal, it's the next goal. Next thing you know, it's distorting their view of aesthetics. Esthetics started out being looking fit and muscular and now it's turning into I need to have 19 inch arms or I need to have a turning into, I need to have 19 inch arms or I need to have a tiny waist
Starting point is 01:13:27 or I need to have these really big boobs or this really big butt or I need to have, you know, I need to be super shredded. And now aesthetics to you means, I have to take antibiotics to look aesthetic or I need to starve myself to look aesthetic or I need to, you know, spend an hour and a half with makeup and hair,
Starting point is 01:13:46 and do all these different things to my body. It becomes this moving goal post, and if you only chase aesthetics, you will not get health. That's a fact. You simply won't get health. If that's all you ever focus on, because eventually your health takes a second. Now that being said, I believe that you can chase aesthetics, and it could lead you to health, because I think that was the path that I went I feel like I
Starting point is 01:14:07 Was heavily focused on aesthetics as a and a young man who was insecure about his his body and the path of Chasing aesthetics eventually led me down the path of health because you as you get better at it You start to realize that that is the answer, that the answer is that the healthier I am, it ends up being a byproduct that I become aesthetic. Well, it's a very easy, like it's actually quite simple. If you chase aesthetics, you you may end up like Adam. Adam is a very self-aware, one of the most self-aware growth-minded people I've ever met in my entire life, okay, which means he's rare.
Starting point is 01:14:46 It's not very common. So you may get some health if you chase aesthetics, but most people end up with poor health. But if you chase health, if you chase optimal health and wellness, you will get a great degree of health and wellness, and you'll get a great degree of aesthetics. Now you may not look like a bodybuilder. You may not get so shredded because you're not gonna starve yourself, but the kind of aesthetics you're gonna get
Starting point is 01:15:10 are still excellent. And we also wanna remember what aesthetics reflect. Why is there, why does our brain perceive aesthetics in the first place? Because see, now that's where I wanted to go with this is that I was actually just speculating today. I don't know what I was watching. And I find it fascinating that why are we as men driven to be bigger and stronger and
Starting point is 01:15:31 more aesthetically pleasing, right? And it's the whole idea of procreating, right? Because if you look aesthetically pleasing, then you probably look healthy and you look like you're going to have good genetic. Right. It's, well, you see good genes right you see as a as a female you are drawn to that because you see a healthy strong male that you can make with that is going to give a healthy strong offspring. It's a visible representation a very simple easy and our bodies evolved to recognize it because it's
Starting point is 01:16:05 fast. I could see you real quick, representation of health. So if you have good skin, if you have good symmetry, if you move well, if you have a decent amount of muscle, if you're not obese, but you're also not real shredded, which by the way, people think being super shredded is aesthetic in person. It's actually not. As I say, yeah, like looking at it in person versus like, you know, makeup and Photoshop and all that is a complete different story. It's not. If you see someone who's fucking, especially a woman,
Starting point is 01:16:36 especially if you see a woman who's like in a single digit body fat percentage, and you see her in person, most people, most healthy people, healthy minded people will look at that. And if you ask them, does she look healthy? Like a lot of them might be able to say, wow, she's shredded. You can see all this. Does she look healthy? Does she look appealing? And most people would say no. And I'm not just talking about men. I'm talking about women. We'll say the same thing. And the same thing for guys like if you're a guy and you push yourself, you push yourself to the max with muscle, with anabolic steroids and growth hormone
Starting point is 01:17:05 and food and you're super huge and all these different things. Most people would not consider that ideal in terms of aesthetics because like Adam's saying, aesthetics, the reason why we even identify them is it represents health. And so if you're listening right now and you're, you know, you have the goals of just, you want to look good, but you're listening right now, and you have the goals of just, you wanna look good, but you're not trying to compete or anything extreme like that. And you're thinking,
Starting point is 01:17:30 I need to choose aesthetics or health. Chasing one of them will give you both. Chasing the other one will give you, maybe, most likely just one, and likely, maybe neither, because I'll tell you something right now. I know, and I'm sure people listening right now know, lots of people that always chase aesthetics,
Starting point is 01:17:48 chase, chase, chase, push, push, push, to set aesthetics, eventually you have neither. And eventually none of us have aesthetics anyway, you get older. You know what I'm saying? Like what happens at that? Well, and what you start to find out, and this is where I met by, you know,
Starting point is 01:18:03 I started off chasing the aesthetics, and then eventually it turned into this health thing was I Realized that the healthier I was and the more I chase health the more sustainable the aesthetics came Where when I was purely focused on a sticks anybody can starve the body and train like a fucking animal for six to eight weeks almost anybody can do that almost any But which is what you see in the competitive world. It's the martyr thing. Right, almost anybody can put their head down, say, I'm not gonna eat, I'm gonna fucking train,
Starting point is 01:18:33 and I'm gonna become aesthetic, right? I'm gonna look fucking shredded. But nobody can maintain that for their entire life. And so you end up rebounding and going back to what a normal body type looks like, or potentially rebounding and going back to what a normal body type looks like or potentially Rebounding and looking worse But as you start to chase health and then you get yourself
Starting point is 01:18:51 That when you see the healthiest version of yourself and you actually objectively look at yourself You start to realize oh shit not only my the healthiest But this is some of the best I've ever looked in my life too, with the least amount of work, and actually learning to, and that's what it's all about, is learning to listen to the body when it's speaking to you. And I think that is the problem when you become so aesthetically driven, you begin to ignore all the signals that your body was already trying to tell you,
Starting point is 01:19:19 because you're so stubborn about, I want to look a certain way, I want to get to this goal, and this is what I see everybody doing, so this is what I'm going to do, when your body's screaming at you, no dude, I want to look a certain way, or I want to get to this goal, and this is what I see everybody doing, so this is what I'm going to do. When your body's screaming at you, no dude, I need some rest, no dude, feed me, no dude, how about some meditation, no dude, how about a night's rest?
Starting point is 01:19:34 No, you know what I'm saying? It's telling you all these things, and you're ignoring it and trying to push the body, and it's crazy. When you push the body like that, again, in a short term, you may be able to get to a point where you've seen the best shape of ever physically in your life, but sustaining that, not happening. Did you guys read about the girl over the weekend? I think she was in Australia.
Starting point is 01:19:55 Young mother of two who died from, they blamed on too much protein. Oh, I saw that. 25 year old girl. Now, she has a disorder, urea cycle disorder, which it stops the body from being able to break down protein, so it leads to fatal levels of ammonia. So in this particular case, high, high, high doses of protein combined with extreme exercise can be fatal, which is her case. Now, the reason why I'm bringing that up is because she had extreme fatigue before that. She felt terrible before that. She was getting ready for a show.
Starting point is 01:20:34 What do you think she was doing that entire time? That entire time she had extreme fatigue, that entire time getting ready for the show. She couldn't do cardio because she was too tired. She couldn't scarf down another chicken breast because her body just found it repulsive And yet she forced it. What was she chasing? She was chasing aesthetics which forced her which put her in a situation where she ignored
Starting point is 01:20:56 All of those signals and it led to her death and that's an extreme case But that's the case. I mean, I just recently heard a competitor talk about how she could barely walk three days before her competition, because she was so exhausted. But man, you should have seen how shredded I was, and I got on stage and I finally won the competition that I wanted to win. And it's like, holy shit, man.
Starting point is 01:21:18 What are we doing to ourselves? All for a fucking trophy. All for a fucking trophy. And those of you who are going through this, most of you don't even compete. Like most of you aren't even trying to compete. You're just so obsessed with this aesthetic ideal that you've created in your mind
Starting point is 01:21:35 or that you've allowed advertising agencies to create for you. And again, it's a moving goalpost. You will never get, I promise you, if you chase aesthetics, you'll never get to your aesthetic goal. You'll always be chasing, it's a moving goalpost. You will never get, I promise you, if you chase aesthetics, you'll never get to your aesthetic goal. You'll always be chasing, you'll always be pushing, and it's gonna get more and more distorted to the point where you'll involve plastic surgery, drugs, and all kinds of extreme things.
Starting point is 01:21:55 And not only will you not get the aesthetics you want, but you'll definitely want to get the health. Chase, optimal health, and wellness, and the rest will come. But here's the key now, here's the kicker. You cannot chase health because you think you're gonna get aesthetics out of it. Right.
Starting point is 01:22:10 Because that's the same thing as chasing aesthetics. Forget about it for a second. Forget about aesthetics for a second. Release it for a second. Listen to your body. It's like giving and expecting something in return, right? It's not really giving when you do that. It's like meditating,
Starting point is 01:22:23 because I'm gonna meditate so I'm gonna be productive. So I'm gonna sit here in my meditate real hard. It's not really giving when you do that. It's like meditating, because I'm going to meditate so I'm going to be productive, so I'm going to sit here and meditate real hard. It's the same thing. I'm, listen, I am 100% living through this right now. I did this, I chased aesthetics for a long time. For me, it was about building muscle. And eventually I learned I could get lean and look like I was a more muscular, but I was never really lean for longer than a couple of months, because it was very difficult
Starting point is 01:22:44 than my body would come out because I'd want to build muscle and whatever. Now I walk around and I walk around it with more aesthetics than I ever had before and the irony of it is I don't even really care about it to my notice it now and I see it, but it's not something I chase and you can really get to that state, that point,
Starting point is 01:23:02 but never trade your health for anything because nothing is worth it. I mean, think about it this way. Would you really want to that state that point, but never trade your health for anything, because nothing is worth it. I mean, think about it this way. Would you really want to look the way you want it? We totally do. We totally do. We totally do. This question completely.
Starting point is 01:23:13 Yeah, they're asking if we would do that. Right, right. Yeah. Well, I mean, hypothetically, fine. Let's pretend like this was the case. Let's say you had to look like you were at a shape to have great health, or would you want to look like you were in great shape to have poor health.
Starting point is 01:23:27 That's an easy choice for me. Yeah. I would never want poor health. Well, health, I mean, you have to be able to move around and like do things. So you can't like be that decondition. No, and I think people would even expect someone like me who openly admits that I'm very aesthetically driven, that I would say that and I still wouldn't. I mean, because nothing is worse than feeling like shit, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:23:47 And not having your health. I mean, I could look amazing. And let me tell you, I've had those moments of the feeling amazing because I look amazing. But if I got to sacrifice my health to look amazing, fuck that. It's not sweet. Super sick and like, you know, immobile like you can't do anything. Right. It's not sweetly super sick and immobile like you can't do anything. It's the worst there is. Yeah, so I always love it too. I'll work with clients. I have a few online clients and this is the way I push them.
Starting point is 01:24:14 And then I've had a few clients. I actually have one of them this morning. She hasn't waited herself for months because I told her not to. She's so obsessed with it for so long. I said, look, let's just go after a health and wellness for now and see what happens. And I told her, I said, you can go and check your weight and see what happens.
Starting point is 01:24:32 And she got on the scale. She lost 15 pounds of body fat. And this was a woman who struggled with five pounds of weight loss. It was a major, major struggle. And she literally lost 15 pounds on accident because she was chasing health and wellness. So I'll end it with that.
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