Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 606: Overhauling the Public School Health System, Freaking Out About Aging, Fitness Wisdom We Wish We Knew Years Ago & MORE

Episode Date: September 29, 2017

Kimera-Quah! In this episode of Quah, sponsored by Kimera Koffee (kimerakoffee.com, code "mindpump" for 10% off), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about freaking out about aging, advice they would tell their pre-pubescent selves about fitness, how they would train the public school system in health and an area of weakness  faced when building the Mind Pump brand. Mind Pump hate mail/Podcast hacks (2:48) Daddy Sal is sick (13:58) Culture of gaming/Virtual reality (16:10) Quah question #1 – Do you guys ever freak out about aging? (23:27) Quah question #2 – If you can go back in time, what would be the one piece of advice you would tell your pre-pubescent self? (37:52) Quah question #3 – How you train the public school system in health? (50:20) Quah question #4 – What was an area of weakness you faced when building your brand? How did you overcome it? Would you consider it a strength now? (1:01:29) Related Links/Products Mentioned Organifi Discount Code "mindpump" Welcome to Steam (website) Virtual Reality app lets friends meet in bars for drinks - ZME Science (article) A New Earth: Awakening to Your Life's Purpose - Eckhart Tolle (book) HBO | The Defiant Ones | Homepage - HBO.com American Body Building Blue Thunder Fruit Punch The cognitive benefits of play: Effects on the learning brain (article) Jamie's Food Revolution | Jamie Oliver (website) Mind Pump (@mindpumpmedia)  Instagram Mind Pump TV – YouTube Thrive Market (website) Sign up and get 30 day subscription for free and Get $60 of FREE ORGANIC GROCERIES + Free Shipping! People Mentioned: Eckhart Tolle (@EckhartTolle)  Twitter Stevie Nicks (@StevieNicks)  Twitter Huey Lewis (@Huey_Lewis_News)  Twitter Arnold (@Schwarzenegger)  Twitter Ben Pakulski (@ifbbbenpak)  Instagram Mike Mentzer Dr. Ed Thomas Jamie Oliver (@jamieoliver)  Twitter Would you like to be coached by Sal, Adam & Justin? You can get 30 days of virtual coaching from them for FREE at www.mindpumpmedia.com. Get our newest program, MAPS Prime Pro, which shows you how to self assess and correct muscle recruitment patterns that cause pain and impede performance and gains. Get it at www.mindpumpmedia.com! Get MAPS Prime, MAPS Anywhere, MAPS Anabolic, MAPS Performance, MAPS Aesthetic, the Butt Builder Blueprint, the Sexy Athlete Mod AND KB4A (The MAPS Super Bundle) packaged together at a substantial DISCOUNT at www.mindpumpmedia.com. Make EVERY workout better with MAPS Prime, the only pre-workout you need… it is now available at mindpumpmedia.com Have Sal, Adam & Justin personally train you via video instruction on our YouTube channel, Mind Pump TV. Be sure to Subscribe for updates. Get your Kimera Koffee at www.kimerakoffee.com, code "mindpump" for 10% off! Get Organifi, certified organic greens, protein, probiotics, etc at www.organifi.com Use the code “mindpump” for 20% off. Go to foursigmatic.com/mindpump and use the discount code “mindpump” for 15% off of your first order of health & energy boosting mushroom products. Add to the incredible brain enhancing effect of Kimera Koffee with www.brain.fm/mindpump 10 Free sessions! Music for the brain for incredible focus, sleep and naps! Also includes 20% if you purchase! Please subscribe, rate and review this show! Each week our favorite reviewers are announced on the show and sent Mind Pump T-shirts! Have questions for Mind Pump? Each Monday on Instagram (@mindpumpmedia) look for the QUAH post and input your question there. (Sal, Adam & Justin will answer as many questions as they can)

If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts. Saldas Defano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. In this episode of Mind Pump, for the first 20 minutes, me, Adam and Justin, have some nice conversation. We talk about podcasting tricks. Those shucksters. What are these guys up to? What are they doing?

Things, we talked about our significant others listening to Mind Pump, what they're critical of, how Justin's wife doesn't like the show. I never said she didn't like it, she just doesn't listen. The only edit we ever did was when Sal talked about Jessica. Stop. Then we talk about the weird. Show us your kids in the car. The weird virtual world

You're gonna have to listen this episode to know what I'm talking about there And then we mentioned the organify green juice as you chugging it right now because you sick Yeah, I got a little sick caught it from Adam should have known better not to take out Looking out if you want a discount on or gainify go to organify shop calm type in the code mind pump for 20% off Then we get into the questions. The first question was, do we ever freak out about aging? Is that something we're rocking? I'm rocking the grades. Here's Hanson or today that he was yesterday. I'm rocking it. Then we talk about what kind of advice would we give ourselves back in the day before we started working out? Like what's the one piece of advice if we could deliver to our

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So I said program like 10 times there. So you'll start with like maps and a ball, like move into maps performance, then maps aesthetic. You've got maps anywhere that you could do in between. There's prime in there to help you prime your body and you're gonna get maps, prime pro thrown in for free with that. It's the best value you can get. You can find out about all of this at mymputmedia.com. It's been a while since I offended anybody anyways. What was the last thing I offended people? It's been at least 24 hours.

No, it's been a long time. When it was the last time I ruffled enough feathers that people like, oh, that was just not proud of. Yeah, this is good. Let's think about this. I really, I've been with the last time anyway. I've been pretty busy. Who pisses off the most people?

For sure me. You think you? I think so. Is it even close? I start a lot of fights. Yeah. I do start a lot of fights. Right. It's rare that somebody gets on our form,

because our form is normally our best pulse, right? So it's rare that somebody gets on the form and actually points out something you said and says like, I can't believe you said this stuff. Although it's happened. You know what? People try to debate me more. I think you're right, people just get pissed off at you.

Yeah, that's true. Yeah. Exactly, they like to... Actually, the only one that's ever, I've never gotten really hate mail, have you? No. Justin has. I get the girl.

You have got hate. You got hate mail. Did you really? Yeah, because you said retard. Oh, is that... Oh, did I? remember that? I did that was a long time ago. That's right. You can't say that. No, it wasn't me. That was Adam. Oh, Adam said it. But it was me. But the message. They miss me about Adam. I didn't fucking say that.

I'm afraid. I'm afraid him bucks me. Yeah. Yeah. You got to tell Adam's saying. Yeah, that's the things I got. I was like, Oh, man. The retort doesn't know how to use a DM. They Yeah, you gotta tell out of the same Retort doesn't know how to use a DM. They went around me. I was like wait, did I say that? I can't say that word anymore. It's super offensive. We did early on what I said that early on Yeah, we were working stuff up. Come on. I was fucking. I was in well It's hard to keep up with what you can and can't say it's true. It happens too fast And it's a tight and go ahead and we don't edit anything Yeah, yeah, did you see me? I defended you today when somebody was trying to get you about something you said like they were I said you gave it you fucked up an analogy. Oh did I yeah, you fucked up an analogy so somebody gave you shit

So of course I'm gonna defend you can attract more flies with honey honey, then you can't with vinegar Yeah, I don't know so you fucked it up. but whatever you gonna say what is this supposed to wow? That's almost as good as ramp water You know what I was trying to say yeah, nobody I don't even know a ramp analogy or a water You know I was making it up. You were It didn't work One day there's gonna be like a major calamity. We're gonna need to solve it with something and that's One day I want sound I just to be silent just let him keep working it out

It's let him keep working this one out right just since I can M. M. All time. I'll do the same to you You're like an M. M. All the time. I'll do the same to you. You're like an M. Nice. I just keep rolling. I just make the word up. Keep shifting with it. Just keep shifting with me. Like, Tronicle or what? Dude, let's go. Let's move it along now. That was a good one though.

I don't remember remember what I how I used it. I like Tronicle. I missed that one. I wish I would have heard that. Electronicle needs to be a word. It does because if you I still believe it is. It sound like what, you know, it is something. It's like, like, I'd like to, you know, you have two apps. So, electronic.

Can you get the electronic version or the manual one? The electronic version. Yeah. Like, I got the old cars with the, you know, the wind up windows. They're not electronic. Yeah. See, that works. Totally understand what you're talking about right now.

Do you run on gas or is it electronical? Rarely ever do the words I make up, not make sense. It makes sense. People are just mad because someone else didn't fucking, because someone didn't put it in the web serdictionary, fuck you. You know what I'm saying? Why can't I use that?

Why is web still the one that decides that anyway? All right. Damn. No, but somebody gave you crap about that. And I'm like, come on, you know what? We could be like every other podcast and edit everything. I'm sorry, everybody does. We haven't met, we haven't met a single,

so I'm putting everybody on front street right now. We haven't met a single podcaster that just rips and puts it out there. Nobody, right? You, and here's some of the tricks, I'm gonna put some people on blast right here. Not individually, just so the audience knows what's up. So I'll trick.

Keep it between us. I'll trick you. Just, you guys don't tell everybody. So a podcasting trick, right? One of them is to obviously edit out all the umbs. Just by editing out umbs or the delay between like conversation back and forth or like when Justin were to go off on like a ramp and water analogy

That's like a thing. So you would have cut that out or the other thing that's popular that people don't know they do is they speed it up Just a fraction. Yeah, and when you speed it up just a fraction some people speed it way the full Yeah, some people speed it way up, but just by speeding up a fraction makes you sound smarter 100% right yeah, so talking faster makes it sound smarter. Yeah, but just by speeding up a fraction, makes you sound smarter. 100%. Right. So. Talking faster makes you sound smarter. Yeah, that's why I do it. Yeah.

If I talk normal place through that. It is true though, we haven't. I can't think of a single, have we ever got anything? The only time we have ever cut, I think you can count on one hand. I know at least two times I said somebody's name. I should say. That's the end of Doug has had to pull their name out. Yeah, we don't want people I said somebody's name. I should say. Doug has had to pull their name out. Yeah, we don't want people to get arrested or killed.

Yeah, yeah. So other than that, I don't think there's ever been a time where did you ever do anything? I've never, I've never, maybe not. You know what, at that one time you said that thing about Jessica, Doug had to edit that out. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you. Oh man. He's joking. Oh, he's joking. Oh, he's joking. Honey, oh no. Right, now what time you said something about Courtney?

I remember that one. Yeah. Doesn't matter, she doesn't listen. I got that going for me. How many episodes do you think Courtney's actually listened to? Maybe like three. That's it, maybe. Total.

She doesn't even know what you do for a living. How about she listens to this? She doesn't even know what she's doing. She doesn't even know what you do for a little. How about she listen? She doesn't even know what you do. She's like, I get it. You know, I've heard you talk and I get it. You know, it's like, I don't need to like, sit and listen to you. You know, I'm like, I get it too.

Does she, does she tell you that, didn't she tell you when she first listened like, you're not funny, I listened to you all the time, or she said that. Yeah, exactly. So that's why I don't want her to listen. You know, that's like, that's all the stuff. Like she could roll her eyes at me, you know what I mean? She could teak you out towards. That was just like, I don't want to listen. You know, that's like, that's all the stuff. She'll roll her eyes at me.

Secret tiques, you know what I'm saying? I don't even know why Adam was laughing. That was just funny. I'm embarrassed. Jessica listens to every episode, and she's so like fanatical about it. In fact, if I interrupt her while she's listening to it, she gets pissed. She stops it.

And she's like, I have to really? Really? Yes. Oh, yes. Katrina's, like a foreign animal. No, that's Katrina's exact same way. I'll come in and if she's like in the middle of listening to my impup and I'm like, I have fuck, I'll tell you what happened.

Just mute it, let's talk. So how many times has she like not liked me or Justin? Like have we said something on the show? Let's go see you. What's actually really funny is she never says anything about, she is hypercritical of me. Mm, she never, she has never said anything that any she is hypercritical of me. She never said anything that South could have been better about that or I can't believe

South of this or Justin while went that it's always God you sound stupid today. No way. Yeah. How can I believe my job? She's like why does my man have to be selling the bro like you're not a fucking bro. I'm like I don't like a fucking bro. So she gives me she gives me the most amount of shit for sure.

Yeah, absolutely. She never says anything. There's nothing you guys ever say. You can't ever do anything wrong. Oh really? Thanks Katrina. All right. It's always, it's always how I could have,

and it's never like, it's never like, she's always critiquing like how I talk. Because I told her, I remember the very beginning when we first started this. I definitely think that, you know, especially when I was competing and we're talking about macros and it was like, I was 100% embodying the bro, but of course,

side of the business. And I would always tell her, I'm like, well listen, somebody has to talk about that stuff because people wanna hear about it. We have to be popular. Well, I've learned this. Right, right.

So, let's be honest, how long have you been doing it? Not popular. Yeah. You're fucking learning this. Right, right. So let's be honest, how long have you been doing? Not popular. You're fucking know this. Yeah, we can't do a whole episode on Mace Bell. Yeah, just talk about it. Just nobody wants to hear it. So crooked. Yeah, and I'm like, the other two guys, they're fucking,

and at that time, Sal was married. I'm like, you know, Sal's married. Justin's fucking married. You guys both have kids. I'm like, they're not going to talk about vaginas. Somebody has to talk about vagina. Like this is, it's so true. Yeah, if, you guys both have kids, I'm like, they're not gonna talk about vaginas, somebody has to talk about vagina. It's so true. Yeah, if we're gonna be the Howard Stern of Fitness,

someone has to have a journey a lot to wait on your back. I was, so. But now I feel like there's a little bit more balance on the show, I don't have to talk about vagina as much. You know what, if we are gonna be self-critical, here's the one thing I hate hearing that we do, and we do less of it now,

and we've talked about this But I hate what we do this is when we have a guest on the show And we all like laugh at every fuck yeah My god, you're so funny. I know I do it. Why are we flirting? It's like a reaction Well, it's a weird predicament to be in think about it because we're first of all we're all nice guys Right, but we and we but we don either, so, but there's this fine line. It's like having a guest at dinner at your house. You're trying to make them comfortable.

Well, yeah, you're coming over and you're in our territory. You're in our facility. And if you say things that maybe we don't fully agree with, I don't want to embarrass you or be a dick, right? So I feel like there's this, we kind of over-conciting. It's like we want that, like going into it, but then we start to meet them, like oh, they're just a person.

You know, like, I wanna like challenge them hard and check them hard, but you're just like, oh, let's go to other directions. Yeah. So then we go to complete office, we're like, oh, that was so funny, you did it! You're so great! They leave all happy, but damn it.

I catch it when we do it too, and I annoys me. And I know it's a heck out of me, I know. But you it when we do it too, and it annoys me. And it annoys the heck out of me anyway. But you know what though? I don't think it's ever, I don't think it's ever happened on a guest on a second time or a third time though. Like once, that's all out of our system now, right? Like most people that will come back on the show. That's the first time we've had.

Yeah, it's like the very, it's just kind of courtesy. Like I'm not gonna be, I mean, I'm sure the audience would love to hear the drama of like being a dick or being hard like, really, that's not how you make fun. They also, there's also this perception I'm starting to realize when guests first come here who who know about us to listen to the show they think we're fucking gonna party hard like they come in yeah like the rap you and K stands yeah what's gonna happen

we're the drugs we're gonna actually record a show do some YouTube and we should all walk out with just like powder all over our face. And it's like, hey, make it look like a make it look crazy. You know what we should do? We should jump and jack. Along those lines is the next like, like super square fucking guess that we have.

We should have like a pile of like flour sugar. A mirror. Yeah, like a mirror. Do a mirror and just do like a mound of like, don't even say anything, just a razor blade. Surringes. Don't even say anything. Dude raise your blade I'm just right don't even say anything Dude and if we had Taylor if we had Taylor hide a camera and dick over here and actually video the whole thing of the

The guest coming in and you just leave it out there like it's no big deal. No one say anything No random chick just walk out. Well, we'll do is we'll cut up a line of like flour But put it like in front of their chair and we'll have them come sit down and we'll all leave and Leave them in here with the camera in the line I think I think it's a good stuff tell me that would that be a fun prank though That would be a lot of fun. It's just to see you see them like bring it up Did you get another scientist that you want to put this away? Yeah, or they got all weirded out and left. It's very your face in it You ready to do this? Listen, this is how you do it. Gah, bro.

When they meet us and they realize we're just mostly business. We just sit down and do mostly business. Speaking of drugs. We're just business. Let me tell you something. Right now, Soutafet combined with cannabis. Amazing. An interesting weird combination.

I got the Soutafet because I'm coming, I got a cold or something coming on thanks Adam but it's I feel cold and Double up on your organ a five bro green juice it up. This is what I had to servings already pound the green juice shiver and sweat It actually that was pretty normally I do all the emergency and and be drinking like crazy at that But I had I was doing like three of those green juices with big old thing of water and I I for the I don't handle You're only sick for two days. Yeah, I bounce back pretty fast. So I'm typically when I get sick I'm a big baby. I'm knocked out, but I actually work still I still did my thing

But I this one's kind of weird it's like you it's really makes you feel fatigued I just don't like it. I want to get sick. I get emotional. I know about you guys, but I get weird. You know what I mean? You guys don't get the bad. Well, yeah, you guys told me that, because Adam, you look through all our five star reviews and start reading that. You're watching like, 18.

16 and pregnant. Like, pregnancy. You get emotional too. I don't eat what it is. Sentimental. 16, this is like angry. The 60, I do have patterns, and I've definitely picked up on them.

The 16 and pregnant and the reading the reviews thing It has to be like a total pity party for myself. I'm feeling sorry for my 100% is what it is right it only makes sense right? It's like I need to read all these reviews that say nice things about me So that makes me feel better and then I watch 16 and pray knit to watch these loser kids that are having kids at 16 That you know saying that you know, I'm saying that you do that when I was all feeling bummed out and it fucking hell It does probably feel good about yourself. It was good.

If you next, and I tell this to anybody who's listening right now, the next time you feel really down and feel sick and depressed, like go fucking watch 16 and pray, knit, and read five star reviews about yourself. If you don't have any fights to, yeah, just go for it. If you don't have any five star reviews about yourself, have a friend write to yourself.

No, the last time I was sick, both of my kids almost made me cry because I was on the couch and I was just fucking bummed out feeling crappy. And they brought me a plate, both of my kids brought me a blank kit. Can we get you some to drink? And I was like, oh, what? Look at this.

They can care daddy. And then like, to be honest, they asked for something. Can you buy me a, all right, hey dad, I want this on steam or whatever the fuck the thing my son uses for video games. Is your kid into that yet?

Not yet. How old is your oldest? He's seven. Seven. It's coming. It's coming soon. What's coming? So it's called the video games. Yeah, but steam, I guess is the company you go through and you can buy like different things you can use in games or different games. Exactly. I don't know what it is.

But if you go any, okay, if you go to the grocery store, you know, the other section at the grocery store where they sell gift cards, so like you could go to Apple Bs or Amazon or whatever. They have these steam cards, they're called steam, and they're gift cards, so that's what you do. To give them things in the video game. In the online or game. Do you understand how brilliant this is?

This is relatively new, this is a cool topic. So I find this very fascinating. I can't remember what book I was reading that they got into this, This is relatively cool topic. I find this very fascinating. I can't remember what book I was reading that they got into this, but I know Justin and I went through this a little bit when we were working on the app and listening to developers, but the poker, right? So poker makes what's it called? Video poker, the free, right?

No, it doesn't charge you or anything like that. It's crazy how much money that makes because what they do is they start you off with an employee and I think it's a freemium model. Right, right. So you get $10,000 to play poker. And I love playing Texas Holdham. So my buddies and I would play with that. Well, when you run out, okay, you have to wait. I want to say a day before you can start up again and get a new $10,000 or you could purchase like right away, you could purchase half a million for like $5. So just to play. Just to play.

And you do it. You buy it because you don't want to wait. You don't want to wait a day or two. That's this whole. It's so fucking smart. This whole economy around it, and I learned about, I really, it's you hooked in it for a minute. So these games, what they do with kids is like,

so you can buy, either you can work through the levels and earn the machine gun or earn the armor or earn the superpower to jump higher, what the fuck it is, or you can buy these cards or things, and they jump past the line. Yeah, you jump past it is, or you can buy these cards or things, and they jump past all that. Yeah, you jump past all that and you have to. So there's a whole economy around it and a whole culture around it. Like, here's something that happened to my son the other day.

He has items in this game that he plays, like there's this particular guns, and their value goes up based on the economy within the game. So it's not a set price. Oh, really? No, so you could find something and it'll be worth more money because more people want it. Type of a day.

I see. It's pretty crazy. So my son had this gun that was worth, he said it was worth 30 bucks. So they're applying scarcity and all that in there? I think so. And you can trade, you can trade with other people. So then people are creating these fake accounts

to scam other people. Because of the value of these fake items. So my son got scammed. He was so pissed. He was so mad. He got up, he was all angry. I'm like, what's the matter, buddy? And he's like, he's the one to tell me. Finally, he kind of broke down, told me what happened. He was going to trade his $30 item for a different $30 item. That their both value was pretty equal to this other guy. So he went to this guy's site.

And what he did is the URL address was just one letter off. So it looks the same. He goes on there, my son gives him his item, doesn't get one to return, totally gets scammed. Wow. But there's people on there that do this, they steal or scam. He can report that account, not all that.

He did, but it happens so much. My son's like, nothing's gonna happen. So these guys go around scamming kids or whatever because these things have actual value. And crazy nerd predator. And you'll sell them. And that's what the guy did. He went on the next day and he sold it.

He sold it for actual money. What a hustle. A dick. Isn't that crazy? It's crazy that we get ourselves hooked into that, dude. That's so nice to me. Talking about being in the virtual world It's already happening where that's where the money the

Currency yeah, it's crazy man. It's there's there's also so I don't know if you guys know about this I don't even know this was a while ago when I was training this one Clank second life and all but there's virtual bars Mm-hmm. There's a virtual bars that you can go online where you chat with people. You can buy them virtual drinks and gifts Yeah, and depending on the value of them you'll get more attention And you've seen that that second life game where you create your own Persona almost like world of warcraft, but it's like I mean, it's like all like sexual and crazy like you like I'm like aware of this huge hog

What's going around? Bang and chicks. What? I swear to God, check it out. What are you doing? What is this? I watched this. This was on one of those shows like Taboo

or one of those things, and they're exposing a lot of like what weird shit people are into. And this is like a huge community of people that are like creating this version of themselves. It's like this fantasy character. And then they meet people, and they, you know, they're like date and they talk like through. And their characters have to have... Yeah, through chat or whatever, and they make their characters have sex.

What? It's hilarious. It's hilarious. Fucking like, really into it. So, so the people who argue that when we can, when we can plug into the internet, like our minds and go in there, people like, oh, people won't do that. Yeah, they will, it's already happening. It's already fucking happening. People like, oh, people won't do that. Yeah, they will. It's already happening.

It's already fucking happening. Well, I think, and I definitely, nobody's gonna want to live in the real world. It's gonna happen for sure. It's like Centars bangin'. We're not far away from like this full, because sports is huge, right? We all know the NBA, NFL, soccer,

I mean, that's fucking huge, right? At this whole, we're so close to having like cameras from all different angles all over the field, the courts and everything. So you as a viewer can have any angle, any and then I think the future will be, they'll have these little tiny cameras and their helmet so I can like we sit down, we're going to watch this Sunday's game, Niners versus Cowboys. And I'm going to be Dak Prescott. You're going to be, you know, you're going to be someone for the Niners and you're going to be, you're going to actually be practicing with that. Yeah, it's, it's going to be like it. I'm know one of my, one of my friends, he was the quarter, one of the quarterback coaches for Cal, he's not

working there anymore, but they were actually experimenting already with a VR and they had, you know, all the players wearing VR and then practicing with it and stuff. Dude, imagine a stadium, right? Imagine going to a stadium where that's how it's going to be like everyone will have the goggles on. Nobody will be actually watching the live game. You'll have the goggles on because mark my words, bro. It'll happen.

In our lifetime. Especially on a Super Bowl. That's probably when they're rolling out. Bro, you imagine that and then. I'll stick with that. Imagine how interactive you could not be more in the game than to actually be able to be the view, the view from the player that you like the most, and you could change it whenever you want. So I'd be like, right now I want to be DAC and watch what it's like from quarterback view

and shit. They have all their own like commercials and shit. Right, dude. Just be crazy. Just. It's going to be a weird world thing. It's going to be, dude. Just be crazy. Just. It's gonna be a weird world. It's gonna be, dude. It's around the corner, man.

It's coming fast. Coming real fast. Okay. Ah. A- A- We Caught We Caught

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It's the motherfucking quag! The Eagle is landed! Quiqua... First up is from Roman Reboot. Do you guys ever freak out about aging? Funny, we bring this up. I was talking to a client of mine, literally today, about Botox. And she's been doing it for a long time.

And I was just listening to her share. But I was just thinking about how fascinating that is that we have these things that we can do now, right? And like along the lines of what we're talking about right now, like what's the future like, you know, what are we gonna be able to do and stuff? The only thing that I freak out, that freaks me out about aging is potential disease

or immobility. That's really the only thing that worries me, although that will eventually happen no matter how healthy I am. I'm sure at some point you lose mobility, you may develop some health issues. If you're lucky enough to live long enough, by the way, that is a blessing. I know people hate aging, but not everybody has the luxury of aging. I've lost close people to me who died young, who I'm sure if they were given the option would have loved to be in a situation where they got to freak out about aging. The book, A New Earth by Eckhart Tolly. I highly recommend it to people. In there, he talks a lot about a lot of interesting things and there's a lot of paradigm, shifting topics,

but one thing that he said that resonated very strongly to me was, you're in your life, you're in this life, this world, nothing you can change, you can't do anything about certain things like aging. There's nothing you can do about it, you're gonna age. There's literally nothing you can change. You can't do anything about certain things like aging. Like, there's nothing you can do about it. You're gonna age. There's literally nothing you can do about it. You can choose to fight it and hate it

or you can choose to embrace it and love it. That's really your two options. There is no other option. You can't stop it. We have it. Well, you don't think there's a middle of that though. You don't think there's like a embrace at the fact that it's happening, but then still do things

that could benefit or process, right? Well, that's what, that's embracing it. Embracing it isn't, embracing it doesn't mean I'm gonna just like give up on life. Embracing it means this is what's happening, and I'm just gonna enjoy, I'm not gonna hate myself. Okay, because I wanna clarify that, because I think it could sound like you just,

oh, I'm getting old, because some people say that too, right? Like, I'm getting old, so fuck it. Why would it start becoming more passes with all these things happening to you? I see my buddies are like this, like my buddies are just, and you know, they love to golf and fish. Nothing wrong with golf and fishing.

I joke with them all the time that's like, hey, are we just like hanging it up? Like we're just fronks, no boarding, fuck away, 40, fuck all the stuff that like is hard for us because we're older now, like we're just gonna stop that and then just hang it up like to me, there's a difference between being okay with aging and then just like folding your cards or you know, given up because it's hard or it takes more work now to stay younger looking, right? Yeah, and that's the thing, we've been especially modern Western societies.

We look at age in older people and I put that in quotes because it's like anybody over the age of you know 40. We look at as as not good. We don't want to look like that. Everything's got to be young. Everything's got to be youthful. But there's a lot of benefits to aging. They're truly it's like like experience and wisdom. I'll tell you what right now. Like I personally personally, I look forward to the entire aging process. For the most part, I don't think of it negatively. And mainly it's because I know how much I've grown, like me today versus me 10 years ago versus me 20 years ago. You got a lot more to say now. Yeah, I mean, it's like, all this experience has amounted to like a better story

and a better conversation that you can pass on to people. Like I feel like everything was so self centered and self focused like as I was younger and growing up and like I had all these like pursuits that were like very myopic where now it's like, okay, I can consider a lot more things because it's like I've seen so much more. And like, yeah, I have no fear at all about aging.

It's just like some of those health things that I really wanna make sure, like I maintain strength. I wanna do these things that are harder for me. I don't wanna just start scaling everything down and back and sitting more and being more passive about how things happen to me. I always want to be in the driver's seat.

So I think that's just, that's the meaning of this. I'm not afraid of it at all. First of all, one, I think as a male, I think we most men tend to get a little bit better with age, even physically, I think most women would agree that they're more attracted to a 30 year old man than a 20 year old man, and maybe even arguably a 40 year old man

than a 30 or a 20 year old man, where it's a little bit different for women, right? Most men would say women at the age of 20 are more attracted than they are at 30 or whatever, and there's of course exceptions to rule to everything. So I think in general, as men and at our age, I think that at least I feel like I'm still getting better with age right now.

Like I, from that standpoint, but I fear the same thing that you guys fear, which is, you never know what could potentially happen with 10, 20 years to come. And my greatest fear is just getting something that I had no control over that keeps me from being able to be physical or moving because I'll do everything in my power to eat correctly, to train, to take care of myself, to make sure, because my goal is to be 80, 90 years old and still a very physically active person. Like I want to climb things and do and accomplish,

you know, physical feats in my 80s and potentially in my 90s. Well, it's interesting thinking about that too, because like you mentioned like the really hard stuff. Like, so there has been a little bit of a shift, you know, because I used to really try to beat my body up and like really kill, you know, workouts and do all these things and like go for these sports

that were super aggressive and physically taxing. And now it's in sparse, I'll do it in sparse amounts just to maintain, I can't take on these challenges, but thinking about more longevity. And I still want to incorporate it, but I'm not out like pressing so hard that, oh man, I got injured again. I got to recover and then do this whole thing. Oh, and then this hurt. Now I'm going through this process again. Something you want to consider is that

if you value growth, which I think most people, if you ask them, if you ask them and you sit them down and you say, okay, do you like growing as a person? Do you like learning and growing into something better? I think most people would say yes. Without realizing that growth only comes from discomfort. It only comes from challenge. There is no growth in comfort.

There is no growth in everything's great. And I'm, you know, La Dida, otherwise, why would you grow? It comes from challenge. And, you know, looking ahead, you know, you can play, and this is a great thought game, you can play with yourself. As you can imagine, what would happen if I were a mobile, you know, what could happen today? I could get in a car accident, I could lose my legs,

or, you know, God forbid something happened in my spine, I'm paralyzed, whatever, I would have to make a choice at that point too, you know. What am I going to do now? Am I going to embrace it? Or am I going to fight something that I can't, whatever, I would have to make a choice at that point too. What am I gonna do now? Am I gonna embrace it? Or am I gonna fight something that I can't, get rid of or change? And that's just really the mindset,

I think, the best mindset to be in. The other thing too is when I trained people, I still love training older people because I identified really quick their intelligence and their wisdom in the smallest ways. Now this doesn't mean an older person is always going to be you know a wiser, smarter person than a younger person, but an older person is typically a smarter wiser person than their younger selves. And there's a lot of wisdom you can get from

older people when you talk to them about certain things like you ask them about relationship advice or business advice or family or raising kids. Even though you may disagree with certain things, if you kind of pay attention, you're talking to somebody who's been on earth a lot longer than you. And I don't know, I can't wait. Like I can't wait to see how I think and feel

and do certain things with another 20 years under my belt. Like what am I going to be talking about? What am I going to be able to tell? I can already tell the difference in 25 year old and 35 year old me. Oh, yeah. I'm so, so much more mellow. Like, you just don't give a shit as much as you did before.

Right? Stuff doesn't rouse you up like it used to. And I think that, I think this is something that was kind of cool. I used to always ask, so I used to run boot camps all over San Jose. I had always 20, 30 people in classes and mostly middle-aged women, so I had some men, but from the age of normally 40 all the way up to mid to late 60s. I used to ask this a lot. I used to love talking to these clients

because there was always so much information to gain from all and I had everything. I had from CEOs and tech people and construction people. I mean, you name the type of careers and entrepreneurs. So just a wealth of knowledge to pick from. And I used to always ask them like, hey, what's it like getting older? And, you know, would you remember what your favorite year to be alive? Like, thinking that they would be like, oh, my 30s were awesome,

or 20s were just great. And they all say now, you know, that no matter whether they, I was talking to the 67 year old, or I was talking to the 50 year old, or the 45 year old, it was a common theme that everybody was like, life just keeps getting better. You know, for what you think is going to be bad, like the physical things, like so, the 25 year old mine, you know, at the guy asking this question at that time,

is freaking out cause I'm like, I don't wanna lose my body and my looks and the thing, those are the things that consume you and think that is so important. As you start to get older, that shit becomes less important. And the things that you value, like wisdom and knowledge, experience, those things become more valuable,

and you start to realize that more of that comes with age and time, right? Because you create this ability, you create a passive income that allows you to travel more and do things like that. I mean, if you would have asked me, I remember being a young 20 year old kid that was very ambitious, and I wanted things,

I wanted to house his cars, watches toys, I wanted stuff, you know, and I used to always think it was crazy people that wanted wanted houses, cars, watches, toys, I wanted stuff. And I used to always think it was crazy people that wanted to travel. Well, you spend $10,000, that's this much money towards a badass car, that $10,000 I can have this thing, and that stuff, it wasn't until I got older and I did more traveling and I settled down

and then I started to appreciate those things. So with age, I believe we start to, our value system changes, the things that we enjoy change. Well, just life experience, man. You're gonna have challenges, you're gonna have good things happen, you're gonna have bad things happen. And you learn and grow from them and that only comes with experience.

But it's easy to find people who freak out about aging. It's easy to find people who don't want to age and they don't look very happy. I see them sometimes, especially around here, or you know, you go down to LA as well. You point this out. You point this out. Well, you point this out a lot,

so you talk about that's one of the scariest things about people in the like competing world or beauty pageants, celebrities or celebrities. Yeah, you've identified, I mean, so much of your happiness has been surrounded around the way you look. Everyone's telling you how beautiful you are. Oh, you're so beautiful, you're so sexy,

and photos of you all the time, and staring at photos yourself all the time, like, you know, and then that eventually does go. And if that's all you've identified with for 10, 15 years of your life, those people have a really good time with it. I was watching that HBO documentary. What is again, the defiant ones. And it was Stevie Nicks that they were interviewing because she used to date Iovini.

And when you see the camera come up close to her face and she's talking, wow, you could see all like the work that she's talking, wow, you could see all like the work that she's had done on her, it's not moving. And I've met celebrities in person, and for anyone's listening who's ever met a celebrity in person who's identified with their youth and now was in their 50s or 60s,

it doesn't look good. You can see that these people are really trying to fight something that's inevitable. It's fucking crazy, it's gonna happen. That's a tough place for them to be too, because they see all the work that they're not getting anymore. And it's all based off of that. It's a very shallow existence when that's like your goal

is to like, I just wanna age, I just wanna enjoy it. I wanna age well. And the best way to do that is by aging, by living well now. Really, the difference between now and- You can look good. Like, yeah, the healthier you look. It's better you look. Just healthy. That's just what it looks like. I love- and as far as being attractive, I'll tell you something right now, and I know

you'll agree with me. I've seen women in the gyms that I've managed who were in their 50s, 50s and 60s even. And these women were, you can tell, have had decades of fitness in their life. That's why they stand out because they're in the gym. They're in their 50s or 60s, but they've got good muscle, shape. They've been lifting weights properly. They're very healthy.

There was one woman in particular that worked out at gold studies to go to. And she was 62, I believe. And she had long, she didn't dye her hair, so it was all pretty much gray, and she would tie it up and she'd work out with weights. And you could tell, she looked really good for her age, but you could tell she didn't have any work or anything like that done, and she was a sexy fucking woman,

like she was hot as hell, and the dudes in the gym, I remember seeing the young guys would kind of check her out. You know, sex appeal, there's definitely a physical component that's objective, like the way you look, but there's that essence, then that energy that you put out, and then we've all experienced it, we meet someone, and it's healthy, it's health, like be healthy, and you're gonna give off that appeal.

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what would be the one piece of advice you would tell your pre-pubescent selves about fitness? I'm getting real touchy feelin' pre-pubescent. You know what? Sal picked the question today because he's all sick. I read it by you. It's all these questions are all in it.

Memories. Right, like a few feel good. Questions. Yeah, I was good. It's all these questions are all right. Memories. Right. I feel good. I feel good. I feel good. Yeah. I would. That's good.

I think if I had, if I could go back in time and convince myself, because I'm a hard-headed fucker, so I would be a tough, I think it would be tough to convince me, but maybe if I saw that it was me later on, I'd be like, oh, shit, it's from the future. I would say, I would say, don't take any supplements because you're just wasting your money. I would say train your full body three days a week, stop the body parts splits, and don't force feed yourself as much as you are because it's not benefiting you. You're not gaining more muscle from it. Focus on real foods and you'll save yourself a lot of health problems later on.

Those are the three main things I think I would tell myself. I would definitely, I would echo that for sure. I think I would tell myself the same thing, and I would add in their steroids, because I did that in my early 20s, so it wasn't pre-best until that's the only thing. So if we're trying to go all the way that way, wait. Well, you guys didn't start till later anymore.

Right. So that's what I'm saying. I didn't even start lifting until I was just playing sports really. So if I'm talking about when I first started working out and going back, I would tell myself to not do that, I would probably educate myself on the nutrition component better, I have a better under full-rounded understanding

of health and nutrition. And then I would probably tell myself to probably pace myself a little bit better. I think as a young kid when I first started working out, I was definitely somebody who was in the gym twice a day and hammering the weights like crazy and just in this stuck in this trap of, you know, I could just could not put weight in size on. And it was just the hardest thing in the world for me. And I struggled with that so much. And it was, I just had a lot. I was doing a lot. I couldn't eat enough. And that's also what led me towards the the steroid thing is because I thought that was the difference between me and everybody else that got and super ripped and buff and I would educate myself on that. I wish Huey Lewis could like, you know, do you the the song for this segment?

Well, I hope it's on. Gonna go back in time. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that would be more epic. I don't know like I didn't work out so later. So like, yeah, like 16, something like that, like, like, you know, more resistance training wise, but as far as what I was doing, I definitely could

have used a lot more structure with, you know, planning out the workouts and what I was trying to accomplish. I didn't even put any thought in that direction. I was just trying to keep up with whoever was benching the most or whoever was like, that was like, all I was like fascinated by. It was like, who's the strongest in like, whatever particular lift it was. I didn't really educate myself as to how to incrementally, overload and progressively get there.

It was more just like, ah, what can I lift today? And so there wasn't a whole lot of thought process behind that. And also, I think, yeah, definitely the nutrition side would have been a huge game changer. If I would have put any sort of attention in that direction, I remember just going with whatever was popular at the time and throwing a ton of creatine, not even measuring it out,

in with all this protein powder and just like trying to load it with as much calories as possible to just throw this bomb into my stomach and gain weight. And so yeah, I mean, it's like I could have completely done it differently and then benefited more long-term. Maybe that could have been the start of my specific stomach problems and things like that. I could have avoided, especially just the quality of food was just terrible. What I was putting into my body, I think that if I could change anything, it would have been just

starting with quality foods and whole natural organic foods back then. I had to go to meal when I would, let's see, by this time now, I'm probably 16, 17, and I would drive. Not well. Oh my God. That was a staple in my diet, bro. I had to fuck those up. Bagel dogs, dude.

I do, I do. Because they were low on fat, bro. That was the crush. They were low on fat. They had protein. They had protein. They were low on fat. Well, I remember the day, I remember as a kid, the day I discovered.

And Veroni, for the pizza. When I discovered peanuts, had protein. I remember that. When I first discovered peanuts, I remember as a kid the day I discovered... Pepperoni for the pizza. When I discovered peanuts had protein. I remember that. When I first discovered peanuts had protein, I was like, I'm gonna eat a fucking jar of peanuts. Like anything that had protein, I would just eat a shit ton of. But my go-to meal, I drive to Hillsdale. This is before they move the 24-fitness over there. I'd lift forever. I'd grab an American bodybuilding,

you know, oh, sorry, I would drink a blue thunder before my workout, because blue thunder had the most ingredients. You guys remember blue thunder? ABB? ABB, yeah, I was ABB. It had the most ingredients. What I mean by that is I would grab it,

I'd turn around on all the label. There was like 50 different like, ebolic agents. Oh my God, I'm gonna get all those. I had smilax, remember smilax? I was like a big supplement back in the day. So I had everything in it, so that was my pre workout. Then after my workout, I would drink a Mino,

I think it was a Mino 2050, or 2500, which I had 25 grams of protein. Yeah. And then I would pound that, and then I drive to McDonald's, and I'd get a double quarter pound of a cheese meal. So it was a number four, I remember the name, super size plus a 12 piece nugget,

because I'm like, I want calories. Oh my God. I had no concept of the, but I'm gonna flip this on its head. Let me say some stuff I did right. Here's some stuff I did right. I trained my entire body from day one, which most kids,

I didn't. Most kids didn't do that at a boy. You both did two things thing you both said two things That I find now listening to you talk if I could go back. I for sure what a programming I was definitely the guy Who was like muscle confusion? You know like I was I was confused in the fucking I was the PR chaser. Yeah I was out there confusing the fuck out of my muscle so much that they didn't want to grow So I would I would definitely change that that they didn't want to grow. So, they were confused and they were confused. They were confused as fuck, you know.

Which way do we go? So, I would definitely change that programming was a huge deal. Once I finally put that piece together and understood the importance of that and kind of phasing in and out, that was a major, major game changer for me. What was the other one you just said? I was just saying, I just trained my whole body. Oh yeah, and then I didn't do legs. I skipped legs forever. For years. And the main reason too was I actually went mechanically

I do squats and my low back would just fucking kill me Yeah, and I would and I would always come revisit it and try it and then I'll be like So I like I leg pressed and leg extension for like 10 years of my life Literally like that long it was that long and then it was like okay Then I started, I got to do more for my legs. So then it was like all the machines plus lunges. That was actually my original leg routine

or my first favorite leg routine was leg press, hack squat, leg extension leg curl. That was it. I literally did that until I worked out with a bunch of power lifters and did squats for the first time. And then it was, I would do barbell squats or front squats and sissy squats.

Those were my, in deadlifts. And then I started doing those. But I was already pretty young. I was only 15 or 16 when I started doing that. And I also identified weak body parts on myself and targeted the hell out of them. So I was a 15 year old, 14 year old kid doing rear laterals, rear raises for the back of my shoulders.

Like, you know, most kids wouldn't do that, you know what I mean. So those are some of the stuff I did right, but everything else is simple. Some of the things I did good, if I were to say some of the things I did, what I did good was I definitely, because I was so muscle confusion based, I definitely trained in a lot of different modalities, a lot of different planes. Like, I was in great shape. Like, I could run with the best, I could jump with the best, I was decently strong.

I wasn't the best at anything, but I was good at everything because I trained like all different modalities. And I could hang with you in a workout, like stamina wise, I was decently strong for my size. Like, so I did that pretty well, I think, as a kid. I definitely stayed in programs too long because I'd marry them. Like, the first workouts I did were,

kind of like Arnold Schwarzenegger style split, you know, routine because I had Arnold Schwarzenegger's in cyclopedia. So that's the routine I followed. Then I switched to Mike Mencer's heavy duty and boom, I built some muscle, so of course, what do you think happened? I married that, right? And I stayed in that shit too long, my body stopped responding. You know what I was just kept doing that?

You know what else I did really well, and it reminds me now that I listen to Ben Packelot because he preaches this like crazy. I was very mechanically sound. Yeah, like I was just gonna say that. I was super into mechanics. Like I was, I'm bad, I used to pride myself on lifting next to some, you know, meathead guy that was swinging the weight around. And I would grab like real lightweight and just be controlled

and look like perfect form, you know. So I took a lot of pride on form and I used to never care about PRs, I used to never care about how much I was benching squat. Any of those movements I was so mechanically driven and I think that definitely set me up for a lot later on to be successful. I think. Yeah. So if I have to come up with something that I did do well. It was definitely master the skill of squat and bench

and I actually did a decent job of just focusing on like power clean. And I just never dead lifted. So I think that obviously power clean, I get some form of that in there, but it's more of an explosive, you know, complicated movement. But like those were like my three that I was just like adamant about like to PR,

you have to like really, you know, get in good with the mechanics of it and a master the skill of it. So I took that all the way from like early high school all throughout my college. Now was it because did you have a football coach that implemented that? Is that who taught you? Yeah. That's originally who taught you.

Did you guys get taught? I think it was revolved around those. So you had your coach, did you have anybody at them that kind of taught you anything? Wow. That's it. Boy, you make me, let me think here. I'm trying to, no, dude, we were very much so self taught. I was, you know, body for life and, you know,

muscle magazines and... Yeah, same here, I didn't have any. Yeah, we, it was my buddies and I in the garage, man. Teaching each other. Teaching each other, bringing each other, magazine articles, oh, let's do this workout or like, oh, I saw this, let's try that or I talked to the fucking supplement kid, well, he was a man back then.

The supplement man at the fucking, you know, protein store or whatever, and he's told us to do this. I actually... I literally like how we were. back then, the supplement man at the fucking protein store or whatever, and he's told us to do this. I actually, I literally like how he learned. Actually, my dad had a friend who used to compete, this was back then, so he competed in the 80s or whatever. And he was a muscular dude, he was a chiropractor.

And me and my cousin, I remember they were visiting and me and my cousin were super excited because we're these 15 year old kids who were trying to build muscle and we knew this guy used to be a bodybuilder and he walked in and he was like the buff this dude at this point I had ever met and so we were super like nervous like but we want to ask him like what are some secrets you could teach us and I remember his advice which was fucking great advice but I thought he was bolshitting me. I asked him I said what is

Like what can you tell us we want to build mass like our goals to build some mass and he says here's what you do he goes eat real food eat a lot of it and Train your whole body three days a week and I remember we left when he left that night me and my cousin Can you drop me or I'll and my cousin, like 15, me and my cousin was great. Me and my cousin actually got an argument over it because when he left, he was like, well, maybe we should try it and I'm like, no, he's obviously not telling us because we're kids.

He thinks we're kids and we can't do it and that's why he won't tell us. And we had this whole debate like, was it true? Was it not? And I'm like, none of the bodybuilding magazines say this. Like, they're telling me to take all these supplements and do all these other type of routines.

It was the best advice I just didn't take it because I thought I'm a kid. You know what I mean? Why would he tell me the truth? Fuck. See, weren't ready to receive. Isn't that crazy? That is crazy.

Next question is from Sir Casey Bro. How would you train the public school system in health? Sir bro. Well, we need to hold overhauling. Oh yeah. Dude, we need to hold. First off, let's make it a priority. And I know people have a concept of education and think, you know, they're there to learn you know, important skills that are going to help them with their jobs in the future like

math and science in particular. What good are your jobs? You can't fucking move. Well, I mean, to care for yourself. Here's the thing, like these are public schools that we're talking about, so we're paying for them with our tax dollars. We're going to go bankrupt because of our poor health. That's a fact.

Well, that's what it's going to take for them to start making, implementing these changes in this direction. And maybe, I hope so, because this is the first place they come up with. There are studies too, right now, that are out to show, when a kid gets 15 minutes of play every hour or two, their ability to focus on something as significantly higher. There's enough stuff out there to show the importance of the exercise and movement. And I think like as a kid, like that's, I mean, if I had full control, right,

like money didn't matter and we could do whatever we wanted, I think I would definitely have a classroom setting that would be even potentially outdoor and active and moving and with all different age groups. So I definitely believe in the having kids that are five, six years older than the kids in the class, both, you know, so a wide range. And then there's physical activity built into the curriculum.

So it's literally like mathematics isn't just sitting and like writing math on the board. It's like going out and like adding things up. Yeah, well like combining it. So like Dr. Ed Thomas, I always like kind of go back and see what he's doing, because it's really interesting and how he implements both together.

Like so it's not just like this clear division of like, hey recess and everybody plays and runs or whatever and they don't incorporate it, they basically sit all the rest of those hours, right? And so he actually, has scheduled breaks, like, you know, 10 minutes where everybody gets up and they do like, calisthenics or they do things that requires like, your joints to move in all directions.

And I mean, it's great because then the productivity goes way up, you know, the kids, you know, retain a lot more of what they learn. And it's just like, and they stay in great shape, and there's less absences, you know, there's just so many benefits to it. It's just, they don't look at like, you know, all of that as to what it could be. Well, I mean, when you have a bunch of kids who are sitting in their desks and you're trying to teach them something, you're actually going to be more effective if you had them, like

on the, like, okay, everybody get on the floor, we're gonna do these stretches while you're stretching. I'm gonna go over this and talk to you about this, or whatever. And then interact with them. It's actually, you retain things better that way. This is a trick that I do with my kids all the time. It also gets them to stretch at the same time. But you know, this is interesting because the more,

schools have actually gotten in trouble for telling kids what's healthy to eat, what's not healthy to eat, because then kids go home and then their parents eat like shit and they go, oh, the parents don't like it. They don't like it. Because you're telling my kid what I'm eating is not healthy, you're telling my kid whatever,

and it's an interesting situation to be in. I definitely think we should talk about health with kids starting very young all the way up and talk about all health, total health, mental health, physical health, emotional health, you know, who to talk to when you feel a certain way, you know, why we eat healthy, not attach it to being fat or being thin, but attach it to our well-being. Right, I like that mentality of adding in all these bullet points of how much more productive they're gonna be, how much more the,

they're gonna retain from whatever they're learning for the day and all these different positives that we can highlight and show, just like start small, start with a 10, five, 10 minute period where the whole class interacts and they do something physical and then go right back to work and see what happens. Yeah, and the other thing too

is have you guys seen school lunches? Oh, they're terrible. They were terrible back when I was a kid, they're not now. They're they're terrible. They were terrible back when I was a kid. They're still terrible. Yeah, they're absolutely fucking horrible. It's like super unhealthy food that you that you give kids like, you know, nobody's innovated this. No, and it's not. It's like it happened to, uh, what was his name? Jamie Baker? Jamie, he did the whole thing where he was trying to go travel all over the country the garden guy that was doing it the vertical walls He did no no no no no He was this guy was trying to just he was trying to bring awareness to childhood obesity and the problem in schools

Oh, I know he did the whole demonstration of what a chicken nugget is actually made of in front of all the kids and so that and It was like gross. He just pissed off a lot of schools. I don't know. He was on. It was a big deal when he did all this. I don't know. Some of these food organizations. I remember that. These big food companies are some of the biggest donators to the school system. Yeah. There's some of the biggest ones.

And they have partnerships like high schools will have. Like Taco Bell. Craft. We'll have Taco Bell on campus. Or we'll have pizza hot on campus. We have pizza hot and towel bell on campus. we'll have Pizza Hut on campus. We had Pizza Hut and Taco Bell on campus. That's right. That's right.

So do machines. So do machines big money. All every single day through high school, a soda and either Taco Bell or Pizza Hut was a staple midday meal for me at, and then candy. I eat candy in class and I would eat pizza hut or Taco Bell with a soda. Yeah, it was what was on our campus. That was the north.

And that was the good food, because you could get like the cafeteria lunch, but that it was like shit. That looked like something made a month ago. It was just terrible. So it was like, yeah, of course I'm gonna get Taco Bell or freaking pizza hut. It's way better.

And it was like the same price. It's like, yeah, you kidding me. It was fucking, I have a $ I'm gonna get Taco Bell or freaking pizza huts way better. And it was like the same price. Like, yeah, you kidding me. This fucking, I have a $5 burrito from Taco Bell. And you couldn't get better advertising for a company like those like Taco Bell or whatever because they're literally training you as a kid to eat their food, to make it in your mind. Feel like it's okay to eat this as a food.

Right, so you're having to eat that palate, dude. Oh, yeah. It's terrible. It is, it is, you know, and I think it's like, there's such this hard area, right? Because I feel like we get, we get on it so bad. It's like, okay, eating Taco Bell once or twice is not going to kill you.

That's a big wheeled return, man. Let's hope food is talking with schools. It's a monster one. I would, I tell you what, I wouldn't want nothing to do with it. I'm asking you. A lot of legislation. Yeah. It would be a bureaucracy. Be too afraid to attack. And a lot of the and a lot of people are kind of how dope though would be they don't think about it. How dope would it be though if part of the school system or part of the school is they had their own like farm. Yeah you grow your own foods. Some schools are

starting to do that after about like some initiatives that would be cool. Because then like educating them on the food, like lots of science there. For right, and physical activity there. We're gonna get out, we're gonna hoe it, get it all ready, and pick it, and pull it. And improve it. Yeah, yeah.

Hell yeah, carrying the water over, do I mean, it could be, it could be, and that what's cool about that is it could be a class and physical activity at the same time. It's applicable because then you can take it to your house, you know, and that what's cool about that is it could be a class and physical activity at the same time. And it's applicable, because then you can take it to your house, and have your own. And you have pride in your family.

Yeah, and I feel like you could educate on the benefits of this whole natural food versus what they're selling at recess over there for whatever. I think, yeah, imagine if you're a teacher, you're sitting in class and you're gonna talk about healthy food and you're about to tell the kids, you know pizza huts unhealthy and it's on the campus Yeah, you know I'm saying I know like you might as a teacher that's a conflict of interest They're just gonna kind of turn two now. Let me ask you this well, and then she's also eating it on our break

Kind of hard to do that just healthy kids just then your your kids played sports to do you guys rotate who brings the snack for the kids after the game? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, popsicles or it'll be like rice crispy treats with all this chocolate donuts. Yeah, that's happened before. Dude, when I was a kid, it was orange slices. That's what I was like as healthy as you got. That's all we got. We were, after game and half time game snacks were literally were orange slices. No, now, like my daughter play soccer, she's over her games over.

One of the other parents gave you a better kill. And I tell my, and my kids know, they know, and I don't say anything, cause I don't wanna, like I said, this is like a, it's her game, you know, I'll provide the healthy stuff, the healthy most of the time, and I don't want them to have a negative relationship. But they know, because the pair will open the box.

Oh, guys, come on over. And it's fucking donuts, adult sized donuts for these little eight-year-old kids, and they're grabbing it, my daughter's looking at me. And I'm like, go ahead, honey, you can have it, and I'm thinking of my head like, you fucking, like, why would you bring it? They gave them Oreos, like, I was like,

fucking Oreos. Like, dude. And the kids are so excited. And like, what pisses me off the most really is Gatorade. Like, we're never gonna be sponsored by the Infuck That Company. Like they made the shitty drinks that kids think are healthy. Yeah. Because and they're like just pure bullshit.

Like Michael Jordan used to drink it. It's fucking color sugar water bullshit. It's got electrolytes too. And like everybody brings it there thinking it's like, oh yeah, the kids need it. I'm like, no, I don't fucking need that. Every time you say electrolytes, I like electrolytes.

It literally puts peptides and electrolytes. It puts me back into that conversation when we were being pitched in Willow Glide. Oh, I love that. Such a vivid memory of like, somebody guys have ever heard of electrolytes. Like we're like, oh, holy shit.

We're taking you on. It's a brand new territory. You should see that we're to tell our audience You should see that you should see my kids when it's my turn to bring the snacks. Oh, no my kids will read it They're but my kids will see the preparing something or my daughter or my son if it's their game Yeah, and then she'll look at me and be like are you bringing the snacks today? And I'll be like oh man, yeah, cuz they know it's gonna be like mozzarella sticks Fruit you know something healthy and they know like and then the kids mozzarella sticks, fruit, you know, something healthy, and they know, and then the kids when they come up after the game

and I open the bag, here you go guys, apples. I know. That's like, and water. Yeah. What's wrong with water? It's so crazy. It tastes like nothing. Quick commercial break, hey, people ask us all the time

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How did you overcome it? Would you consider it a strength now? Oh, I can, I know exactly what we do. I know what we do. What our weaknesses that now have worked on is we are all visionaries. We're very, very good at that. We love that.

We could sit down and conceptualize and come up with great ideas and concepts. And we love doing that. Organization is very difficult for us. It's very, very difficult. And the way we've overcome it, or we're overcoming it, as we hire people to get for it. Exactly.

Which it was a rough road to get to. It was definitely a rough road. But I mean, that's what you got to do, right? Otherwise, we're going to focus on something that we suck at and end up not doing what we're good at, which is the visionary part. But that's the first thing that comes into my head. I don't know about that.

I think that's it. That's more business really, not brand. So brand, are they talking about us as far as the brain? I think they even want that. I think it's anything to do with the business, but what's a weakness in the business that we first started? That's probably a strength now in the business.

I mean, I could think of lots of little different ones. I mean, everything from the facility that we're in right now. There's when we when you first started like we were having to go shoot at a different gym and even before that we didn't have that we were we were recording a does living room when it first started so the quality of everything that we that we do now is at a much higher level than what it was when we first started. So I think it's a strength now. I think I've only been in one studio that I think is even comes close to the level of ours and that was a fucking television. It was you. Right.

You're going to say telemundo. That was the thing. The lemon. Distinos. So I think the level of our operation now is, I used to say this, right? I used to tell people that were close to me that most companies today with social media do it, the fake it till you make it. They pretend like they're a million dollar company, but they're really not.

We were the opposite. We were, even when we were starting to have success in doing better, you would have never guessed because we weren't flaunting cars, we weren't in a badass facility, we weren't doing those things. I actually feel like we're finally, we finally look like we actually are, which is we are a legitimate business and company with employees and contractors and people that are working in the facility around the clock. So I think that there's a lot of little stuff that's improved like that. Overall, even just like if you talk about the brand in general, we've hired somebody

now that manages the IG page. Taylor does an incredible job with that and the YouTube. And so you can see that right now. I think I love the way the Instagram looks right now for the MindPump Media. I really, I think it looks really professional. I think it looks cool. I think it definitely fits us. Oh, I got it.

We're getting better at that. Yeah, and I think one of the things that maybe some people might have thought was a weakness was the way that we just, we spit it out. We spit it out, unedited, you know, like the way that our deliver even with YouTube and all these different things, like we're just, we're out there, we have it already in our head

and we kind of do it on the spot, but we don't like clean it up, you know? Like it's not like we take that extra long time to really overly produce all this stuff. And- That's a good, because it's become a part of our brand. It's our brand, it's our brand. And now our brand, and now we're sort of cleaning up pieces of that, so along with what you're kind of saying,

as far as the look and aesthetic of what we're doing and everything is definitely improved. But that became who we are. It's definitely working for us. I got a good one. When we first started the show, we did the first, I don't know how many episodes, we did quite a few, and we had never interviewed a single guest.

We did most of them, where it was just me, Adam, and Justin, and we have really good chemistry with the three of us. And when we first did interviews, it took us a while before we got comfortable doing interviews because we hated them. We hated doing them. The episode sucked. It sucked. They weren't too well. We actually considered it at one point. Never doing them. Never doing interviews. It was because we had a new person in the room and we all of a sudden our chemistry was

off and now we're just like three people trying to do this robotic thing of interviewing whatever. And that took a while. That took some practice before we started to feel good. And now I think we're pretty good at it. I think we do a good job. That is probably, honestly, that is probably the best one you can now do you can give is because one of the most common things that we get complemented on when people leave the show. And that in my, at least for me, that's been probably one of the coolest things as far as receiving a compliment, is when people get on the show as far as an interview, and we're talking about bigger name people

that have been on Joe Rogans and bigger shows, and stuff like that, have told us afterwards that this was the best interview I've ever had. People love the conversation style of interview that we do, it's very different than anybody else. It took us a while to figure that out to, what we literally did was we just said, hey, you know what? They're coming in to our chemistry. Yeah. Let's just include them in that. To remain true. And then it just, what happens is the person, and this usually how it breaks down, we like to meet with people

before we record a podcast. Very rarely will they come in and then right away we record, we like to meet with people before we record a podcast, very rarely will they come in and then right away we record, we'll hang out with them. And initially you can tell they're like, they can feel it and they're trying to kind of get into it. And then they relax and it's like, we're all hanging out. And then the interviews get a lot better. That's probably the best example. No, because it was, well, it is the best example because it was for sure a weakness.

We all hated it. We all said it was terrible. And it has probably become a staple, definitely a strength of ours now, that to the point where people compliment us that, oh my God, that was the coolest or the best interview I've ever been a part of. So I think that's a for sure one.

As far as other stuff. My Instagram's gotten a lot better. It ain't great, but it's gotten a lot better. It was all selfies. I didn't know what I was doing. You know what I mean? I first started, I had no idea what you do on this fucking site called Instagram.

Yeah, I think you're a walkie-talkie. I got a trophy for mine, so that was pretty cool. What do you hear? That was pretty cool. We, I think the whole, all of that's coming together right now, too. So actually, I think an area's going to be a strength of ours. And again, we hired out here. So we worked really hard at the very beginning, not really concerned or worried about what other

people thought of us or the image we were putting out there. If we looked big enough, like none of us gave a shit about that, we had other things to worry about. And now that we're in a position where we can afford to hire people to help us, we are now finding the right people that complement the business. And so honestly, there's a lot of exciting stuff happening right now in the next like 90 days. The corner one of it. Getting a facelift.

Yeah, we are. Big time. So the whole, I I mean the complete website is getting changed Salary revamped the nutrition guy which is coming out again like a lot of cool stuff is is coming down down the pipeline that I Think is gonna be a strength of ours because we really have it We haven't done any marketing which is crazy to create it's crazy to think that this business is where it's at with $0 really well other than the this business is where it's at with zero dollars really well other than the poor man. Yeah, the poor man. And a few Instagram celebrities we tried for black eyes. But for the most part, we haven't spent any money in that direction and we are we're heavily vested in that direction now and it's all getting put together and so it'll be

interesting to see it all unfold and I do believe that we have found the right companies, the right teams to affiliate with. And I'm really excited because I think it's going to be a major strength of ours. And I can't wait till we get to a point where we can just start, like we've talked so much about going on the road and visiting gyms and visiting even our format. I would love, I can't wait for that. Our intros? Oh, oh yeah. So much.

And like just the way the show's evolved. Like I listened to some of our older ones and I do think that we've started to kind of hone in on the format. For sure. Want to add that. Check it out. Go to YouTube, mind pump TV. That's our channel.

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