Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 612: How to Train the Central Nervous System, Poor Night's Sleep Recovery Strategies, Dealing with Non-Compliant Clients & MORE
Episode Date: October 7, 2017Organifi Quah! In this episode of Quah, sponsored by Organifi (organifi.com, code "mindpump" for 20% off), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about different ways to train the CNS and how i...t affects overall health and gains, what to say to clients when they haven’t followed their workout and nutrition plan for a week, what to do on those nights when you just can’t sleep and if they believe in aliens. Thrive Market (0:56) The mind of a psychopath and what makes us want to follow them? / Government's control over us (6:24) Quah question #1 – Different ways to train the CNS (central nervous system) and how it affects your overall gains? (31:10) Quah question #2 – What do you say to clients when they haven’t followed their training or nutrition plan for a week? Do you tell them off or take it as a challenge? (44:38) Quah question #3 – What do you do on those nights when you just can’t sleep? How does this affect your training the following day? (56:22) Quah question #4 – Do you believe in aliens? (1:04:46) Related Links/Products Mentioned Thrive Market Chuck (2017) for Rent on DVD and Blu-ray - DVD Netflix Manhunt | Netflix The Unabomber Manifesto: Industrial Society and Its Future Mass Killings Inspire Copycats, Study Finds - NBC News (article) Social experiment - most people are sheep – YouTube Conformity Elevator experiment – YouTube VA Conducts Nation's Largest Analysis of Veteran Suicide (website) Trump vs. N.F.L. Players Who Kneel - The New York Times (article) @mindpumpsal (Instagram post) – Train your CNS for best results Central nervous system Effects of Adaptogens on the Central Nervous System and the Molecular Mechanisms Associated with Their Stress—Protective Activity (study) Get the MAPS Prime/Prime Pro bundle now! TPP #228 Adam Schafer @MindPumpAdam one part of @MindPumpMedia (podcast episode) The Many Benefits of Taking Cold Showers – Lifehacker (article) Brain.fm Discount Code "mindpump" Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey (TV Mini-Series 2014) - IMDb Voyager | NASA Panspermia – Wikipedia No, Facebook Did Not Panic and Shut Down an AI Program That Was Getting Dangerously Smart (article) Black Mirror | Netflix Official Site Organifi Discount Code "mindpump" Also check out Thrive Market! Thrive Market makes purchasing organic, non-GMO affordable. With prices up to 50% off retail, Thrive Market blows away most conventional, non-organic foods. PLUS, they offer a NO RISK way to get started which includes: 1. One FREE month’s membership 2. $20 Off your first three purchases of $49 or more (That’s $60 off total!) 3. Free shipping on orders of $49 or more How can you go wrong with this offer? To take advantage of this offer go to www.thrivemarket.com/mindpump Would you like to be coached by Sal, Adam & Justin? You can get 30 days of virtual coaching from them for FREE at www.mindpumpmedia.com. Get our newest program, MAPS Prime Pro, which shows you how to self assess and correct muscle recruitment patterns that cause pain and impede performance and gains. Get it at www.mindpumpmedia.com! Get MAPS Prime, MAPS Anywhere, MAPS Anabolic, MAPS Performance, MAPS Aesthetic, the Butt Builder Blueprint, the Sexy Athlete Mod AND KB4A (The MAPS Super Bundle) packaged together at a substantial DISCOUNT at www.mindpumpmedia.com. Make EVERY workout better with MAPS Prime, the only pre-workout you need… it is now available at mindpumpmedia.com Have Sal, Adam & Justin personally train you via video instruction on our YouTube channel, Mind Pump TV. Be sure to Subscribe for updates. Get your Kimera Koffee at www.kimerakoffee.com, code "mindpump" for 10% off! Get Organifi, certified organic greens, protein, probiotics, etc at www.organifi.com Use the code “mindpump” for 20% off. Go to foursigmatic.com/mindpump and use the discount code “mindpump” for 15% off of your first order of health & energy boosting mushroom products. Add to the incredible brain enhancing effect of Kimera Koffee with www.brain.fm/mindpump 10 Free sessions! Music for the brain for incredible focus, sleep and naps! Also includes 20% if you purchase! Please subscribe, rate and review this show! Each week our favorite reviewers are announced on the show and sent Mind Pump T-shirts! Have questions for Mind Pump? Each Monday on Instagram (@mindpumpmedia) look for the QUAH post and input your question there. (Sal, Adam & Justin will answer as many questions as they can)
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If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go.
Mite, op, mite, op with your hosts.
Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews.
In this episode, for the first 25 minutes, me, Adam, and Justin have some fun conversation.
We talk about this. It's always fun.
Documentary about the unabomber. It's not documentary, but but it's a show it's about him on Netflix called man hunt apparently you know
Ted Kaczynski he had one eyebrow then we talk about intelligent lunatics and
why people follow them is that frustrating people do with these it is and stop it
uh... we talk about uh We talk about the experiments on humans
and our tendency to want to follow the crowd.
There's some fascinating studies on this
and we have a nice conversation about it.
And also, we're supposed to mention our sponsor,
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And if you want to continue on, then you pay the full.
Well, that's that's what I was telling my clients. Like I'm like, you know what?
You already buy these products anyway because you're buying organic, you're buying, you know, non GMO.
Just go to Thrive Market, use the code, you know, MindPump.
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The way Thrive Market works is because it's a membership process
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you're basically gonna pay this,
like if you were to buy cereal that's organic,
you know you're gonna spend probably a couple dollars more
than if you were to buy non-organic.
They're so competitive that their prices of organic products
are the same as you would pay for non-organic prices or lower.
And how did he say he did that?
He was talking about, it's because it's almost like a farmer's market type of mentality
but put on the web.
So you're pretty much getting things for what a wholesale price would be for those organic
products.
So the more people that get involved with the thrive market market, the better, because that way everybody can kind of
contribute to lowering the prices together.
I think it's a model of what the future of shopping
very forward thinking.
It's gonna look like, and again, I can't even believe
that when we interviewed the CEO,
I wanted to ask him, how profitable are you?
Because you guys, your prices are super low
How was that gonna last? I thought maybe it was a you know one of those like I would be I would be curious to see I don't know
I doubt they are very profitable right now because I think a lot I think they're on their fourth series of what and don't quote me on this
I can't I looked it up. I can't remember where they're at right now
But right now they're at a place where they definitely are pushing really hard to get out there. And I think they're giving way more.
And I don't think they're right now. It's about just gaining building the network.
Well, I mean, so I think they're taking a hit right now to build this massive competitor.
Yeah, because I know they got funding. I know they got good funding. Like I said,
I think they're on their third or their fourth series. And so I think they are in it right now.
They are all about, you know, growing the network. And so I think they are right now, they are all about growing the network.
And so I think for right now,
that's how they can do that.
I don't think they're actually able to really,
I don't think they're actually making money.
I think they're counting on building the network
because this is gonna be so everybody buys groceries.
So that's what I thought too.
But when you're on this, when you're this far along
as big as they are with that,
those rounds of funding, they want to see profitability.
I think they've mastered efficiency.
I think they've really mastered efficiency and lowered, and we know how much that lowers
prices.
Walmart demonstrated that years ago with efficiency, thrive markets doing it with organic
products.
So what you do is you go to thrivemarket.com.
I believe forward slash mind pump, and then
you'll get the free, you know, the money towards your products, you'll get the free shipping,
and you'll get the 30 days for free.
Then we get into the questions.
The first question was, are there different ways to train the central nervous system, and
how does the central nervous system affect your health and gains?
In this particular episode on that question, we do mention Maps Prime.
It's really the only program I know of that targets the central nervous system specifically.
We're teaching you how to optimize that central nervous system for not just like before
your workout, but also like after your workout.
Right.
You can find Maps Prime at mindpumpmedia.com and you can also get the prime and prime
pro bundle if you really want to take it to the next level.
The next question was, if you're a personal trainer and you have a client who hasn't followed
their workout nutrition for like a week or two, how do you encourage them?
Do you tell them they're wasting their time?
Do you blast them?
Do you train them differently? Do you meet them they're wasting their time? Do you blast them? Do you train them differently?
Do you meet them where they are?
This is a great question.
This was a learning curve for me
as a personal trainer.
It made a big difference in my success as a trainer.
Wisdom.
Then we answer the question,
what do we do for those nights when we just can't sleep?
What is a sleep routine?
How can you implement it to maximize your gains?
And finally, the most important question of all,
do we believe in aliens?
Find out in this episode of Mind Pump.
Yeah, we get out there.
Tannin' in it, in it, in it, in it.
Hurry, here, here record, down.
Tannin' in it, in it, in it.
Hit record.
Tannin' in it.
Adam singing, you gotta hit record.
You gotta catch it when it's happening.
Pizzico, pizzico. You guys missed it. I was just singing at the top of my lungs. Adam singing you got to hit record you got to catch it when it's happening
You guys missed it. I was just singing at the top of my lungs. It's glorious sound. Oh, man This glorious glorious. Oh my here's bleeding just to have blood coming out of my ears. It was like
I got a song for you fuckers
Never meaning the home.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think his Daisy Dukes.
I hear that.
Oh, I hope so.
Yeah.
What did you guys watch that show in your juice?
That's the theme song from what you'll call it, right?
From the orange, the orange, uh, the general Lee.
Oh, come on.
Yeah, let it figure it out.
Oh, man. Oh, yeah, I would have never figured that out. Yeah, I never the name but a great
Showed you guys watch out. I didn't watch it at all. I only I only watched it
I mean they rallied those like dad watched that I only watched it for two reasons
Daisy dukes and when they would jump the car always jump the car those two things
There was always a scene where they'd jump something with a car. Yeah, which which is completely false Everybody knows if you jump the car those two things there was always a scene where they'd jump something with a car yeah which which is completely false everybody
knows if you jump your car I like smoking the band it better I never
watched that I know kinds of cool speaking of shows to watch okay you need to
watch Chuck because I finally for one of our four members I think reached out
to me and told me what it what I remember I couldn't find the next story
of what's up partner oh okay right It's just called Chuck the Bayon
bleeder. So you need to look that up. And right now I am
frying my brain on the unibomber story. So it is it's not a
document. By the way, we have a unilateral training mod
available. Just reminded me and it's the bomb Yeah, we're so good. You sent me feel like we're all geniuses
So what's is this good is this a good dream for you
Yeah, so it's called
Shit
Kazinsky's name right
Shit. Uh, fine.
Finally, Ted Kaczynski's name, right?
That's true.
That's true.
That's true again.
Ted Kaczynski.
Yeah, yeah, that's who it is.
It's the Unibomber story, but the name of the Netflix series is called, uh, Finding
A Man.
Uh, some of that Finding A Man.
I'm pretty sure that's what it is.
I'll look it up right now though to be sure.
So, uh, but we'll wait.
It is, uh, no, we won't.
We will.
It's called Man Hunt. Yes. Man Hunt.. Thank you. So I don't know how you did
He's the Google master row you have like really fast thumbs. I was actually texting someone while I remembered that
I okay, I did not know this much about him
So I remember it as a kid. there's a couple things I remember.
I remember he's brilliant.
I know that much.
So this is how this played out for me.
And I wanna hear what you guys know
before Sal jumps in and wants to act all smart about it.
I don't know, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
then you're gonna love the shit of this.
Cause this is what I knew.
And I wanna know if any of you knew more than me.
So I knew, I know though he was by himself and he was a bomber.
Yeah, I knew there was by himself.
Yeah, awesome. He was he was a bomber.
I knew that when so when I was a kid, I remember one or two major bombs that he had done
that and to the point where we had to shut, we had to we stopped all the planes at LAX one day.
It was the great one of the craziest things that's ever.
We're gonna end up bombing. So listen.
Okay. So listen. I'm bad. My bad.
It's come. So that's kind of the craziest things that's out. What at the end of bombing? So listen. Okay, sorry. I'm bad.
It's coming.
So that's kind of what I, and I remember that, and then I remember him, we caught him
and it was in jail, whatever.
And then I remember like years later being older and reading books, listening to some
like seminars and meeting and actually hearing people quote him, like people quoting Ted
Tessinski, and I'm like, wait a second.
This guy, he was like really intelligent.
Like and so I was like, okay, and then I found out he was kind
of a smart guy, but I didn't know.
They portrayed him as this total like hillbilly.
So this is the extent that I know.
This motherfucker for 17 years was getting away
with bombing people.
17 years. And the whole bombing people. 17 years.
And the whole time he was telling like a fucking story
through his fucking killings through all he was.
Was it leaving clues for the cops?
And they couldn't, they had the everybody on it.
Nobody could figure it out.
He's like over everybody's head.
You know, that's a need to listen to this.
So that's a big fucking thing.
That's a common trait amongst you so bored.
The psycho fuckers is that is that they actually,
they want, well, not that they want to get caught,
they want some kind of recognition for what they do.
So like the zodiac killer, you guys remember that?
You don't remember that, but you've heard of them
because I was like our parents generation.
He would like leave notes and tell them
what he was gonna do next.
And you also notice, and this is a real statistic,
this is the strangeness of human psychology.
I love human psychology, but it's also so weird.
Whenever we have a mass shooting that gets lots of publicity,
the odds of another one happening right after
go through the roof because they want that recognition is why they do it.
If nobody said anything about these things, if someone did a bombing and nobody knew
about it, it's still fame.
And ignored it, they would probably go down.
And they did a pretty good job because like I said, I was 1995 to 1997 is when he went
to jail.
So the way the show is told, it's pretty cool.
They tell the story
forward and backwards at the same time. You know, I like when they do that where they
just jump, jump back and forth. But what they do is they started at a 1995, which is the
beginning of the guy who actually brought him down. And it was a two year process before
they, before they brought him down. And so it jumps back and forth between 1995 and 97 ninety seven but for the previous seventeen years this motherfucker was bombing people all over the country
every all the time it was all random or who's targeting super random it was targeting wasn't
any like self-proclaimed like anarchist and yeah the cia go after like you're the you know so that
the going after part was all part of the system in a message and everything that he was sending with the people that he used.
I mean, sure, every person had something, but they could not put it together.
For 17 years, they couldn't put all the people together.
So crazy. 17 years.
And it's all right out in front of you.
Oh, dude, it's, it's dope to watch the, I had,
how do you stop like early?
So I'm looking up right now for his manifesto.
I want to read his manifesto now.
Like it's the story.
He's a flag.
The story.
He keep looking up the show now.
He going down the rabbit hole.
And I know there's some asshole that's listening right now
and they're just like,
Adam, shape for the bearded.
You're celebrating somebody who's a brow.
It's not that bad.
I was celebrating.
Like, you know, Charles Manson and some of those guys,
like they had the most groupies.
Like women, like it's such a weird thing because it's power.
They're really drawn to that.
You'd get visited all the time.
His story's crazy.
He did.
No, him, Hitler, here's the thing.
I like to, and it's almost like challenging my thought.
I believe that a lot of times, guys like us who are growth-minded,
we're constantly pushing ourselves to learn more.
And with that, with growth comes power too.
Power over yourself, power potentially over others,
and it's a natural thing.
But not a lot of people talk about that.
So I really like to see where that can go wrong.
Because the men we're talking about right now
did some really bad things things and we're bad guys
But they're all very intelligent people that at one point went that way and what what caused that and then also be aware
What of what what some of the think characteristics that could now we like yourself right?
We like to focus on that. We like to focus on the lunatics the crazy crazy fuckers, the tyrants, the dictators, and we like to
think about how we can change that from happening.
How could we, what went wrong with these people?
But the reality is actually not that.
The reality is, what is it in most people's psyche?
Okay?
Because these lunatics are one-offs.
They're very rare.
They're exaggerated. They're quite rare. They're very exaggerated.
They're quite rare.
It's very rare that you find people like that.
For most people are relatively good people, right?
Here's the real question is what is it in most of us
that makes us want to follow people?
It makes us want to do crazy shit for them.
Like we talk about Hitler, you brought up Hitler.
We talk about Hitler all the time and what a lunatic he was.
And I'm sure had we caught him,
we would have executed him
and he would have gone on trial this and that.
But nobody talks about all the people
that did what he wanted.
Right.
All the people that followed orders.
I am super fascinated by that.
That's the part that I always think that's so interesting.
Because we talk so bad.
And it was like, if you say a name like Hitler now,
people cranche, fuck it, but wait a second, there was thousands,
tens of thousands of people, maybe more. Was it really well?
Well, I mean, you had actually following him.
First of all, he got elected democratically. Of course, he wasn't doing what he was doing
at that point, but through a process of, and this may actually sound familiar to people,
through a process of scaring the country
more and more and them granting him through their democratic process more and more power
because he had to keep them safe.
He was able to do all these different things, but then you have all these people working
for him or under him that do what he told them to do.
It's the whole like,
I'm just doing my job.
You know, that whole thing, like,
well, I'm just doing my job.
I'm just doing my job.
You have free will.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
If someone tells you to do some shit
and it's immoral in your eyes,
you have an obligation to say fuck you.
I'm still a human being.
Yeah, like I'm not gonna switch.
What you have a source.
What you mean, he did an unbelievable job
of convincing people
that his mission was pure.
I cut it and good or whatever.
It's just strange.
It just strange to me how people do that
because literally tomorrow if everybody decided,
I'm just not gonna do what people tell me to do
if I disagree with it.
Then all of us are tipping point two,
just to be fair.
You know, some people in desperate situations there
where they corner them and they're gonna like kill their family. And you know what I mean? It's like at that point, it's like, then all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all I'm sure. Where, and I just watched it. I don't know if you've actually watched this thing. I said to you guys the video. It's super fascinating, where everybody will be sitting
in a room, right, a doctor's office,
and they tell that one of them's in on it
knows that after the girl comes out
from where the doctor would be and says who's the next patient,
everybody stands up, and they did this.
Oh no, it was a beep.
Yeah, a beep. Oh, sorry. So they're in a waiting room. That's right was a beep. Yeah, a beep. Oh, sorry.
So they're in a waiting room.
Yeah, try to beep.
Yeah, this, by the way, what happens?
It goes, it beeps, then the door opens
and then she asks for the next patient.
So it trains this pattern of the beep happens,
the door opens, everybody stands up.
So that path loves that.
Well, no, so there's different versions of that test
that they repeated over and over again.
So in that particular one, it's just the waiting room.
There's a couple people in there
that don't know what's going on.
Everyone else is an actor.
A beep goes off.
All everybody stands up.
All the actors stand up.
And eventually, the people who don't know
that they're on an experiment stand up when it beeps.
And then when they bring in a new person
who also doesn't know what's going on,
they convince them to stand up.
So everybody just stands up, but there's other studies that...
Well, they show that.
They show that what's crazy is they show the evolution of it,
where so the five actors eventually leave.
They eventually go in the doctor and they go.
And it's all just...
And then at one point, it's 12 people.
That don't know.
None of them are actors.
None of them know that what they're doing is absolutely ridiculous and silly.
Oh wow. And they're all getting up and down.
That's right.
In a matter of, and it's crazy,
so in a matter of minutes,
yeah, we have now.
And it's most people,
most people will stand up
because everybody else is standing up.
Yes, that's the stuff I never got.
So everybody,
well, everybody says that.
I know, I, yeah.
Everybody says that.
It's all you're in the environment.
Now, I think the same thing about myself
and my history tends to, I think, prove it
because I hate authority, I don't go against a grain.
But studies show that this room right here,
most of us will probably end up doing it.
That's just the way the studies show.
And there's other tests too.
Well, how many times have you done this?
How many times?
Because that's a little more glaring and obvious, right?
How many times you walked into a restaurant or a fast food place or somewhere
you have to get in a line to go in and somebody has started the line,
the wrong direction of it and you just follow suit.
I did that the other day.
There was like this huge line for one register that was open and there was a guy
in a register right next to it with no line.
And I was just looking at like left, right, left, right,
and I just walked up to the guy with no line.
And he's like, and he took my order, and I looked over,
and I'm like, what the fuck are they waiting for?
I could not believe it.
It was a huge line.
Because they saw that it was no line.
And then obviously, everybody came behind me.
Yeah.
I was like, really?
There's another one that's really classic.
A classic one where the people will go in an elevator,
but then when they walk in the elevator,
everybody's facing like the right.
So you know, normally people are facing the elevator, everybody's facing like the right.
So you know, normally people are facing the door.
Everybody's facing to the right.
So then the person goes in there, and inevitably,
they end up facing the same direction.
And then randomly, the actors will face another direction.
And then the person will just follow them.
And it works again for most people.
It's a very, it's a very,
group-minded area.
Dude, it is a scary trait.
The one experiment that really frightens me
is where they have a person in a room
and they have an actor in another room
and then they tell them, okay, every time they get a wrong question,
you need to give them a shock.
And don't worry, this is part of it.
And when they give them the shock, they hear screaming,
you know, next door, you hear pain,
somebody like in pain.
You hear pain and then the fake scientist or the actor,
whatever tells you, turn up the pain, turn up the power,
turn up the power and people just do it
because someone else is telling them,
even though they're reserved, some people had like this,
like moral compass there, like even like,
I don't know, but they would still do it.
They would still do it. And they're like, what? You just said, I messed like, I don't know, but they would still do it. They would still do it.
What?
You just said, I messed up, it was the guy,
and he still turned the dog.
So knowing these basic components of human nature,
which we know, and we're just everyday guys
with the internet access, okay?
Imagine what the researchers and scientists
and leaders of major governments are CIA,
the KGB when it existed, all these organizations.
Imagine what they together talk about and do
in order to manipulate their populations.
You don't think like Coca-Cola got a whole of that same case
studies and all that and created marketing around it.
I think people would be shocked if they knew I hold that same case studies and all that and created marketing around it.
I think people would be shocked if they knew just how much
some of these organizations have their hands
in things like the media, in these stories where,
I mean, we're seeing it, we see it all the time.
You look at this whole thing with,
and I don't wanna get into it before I begin,
I don't wanna get into it, but this whole thing with it, and we don't, I don't want to get into it before I, before I begin, I don't want to get into it, but this whole thing with the NFL and everybody's
like, oh, you know, they're disrespecting the soldiers.
It's like, nobody gives a shit about the soldiers when you've got fucking suicide rates
that are through the roof.
You've got people who can't get into the hospitals, the VA hospitals, getting no treatment, where,
you know, people are coming back with trauma for more.
Nobody says anything, but all of a sudden,
because we're told we're supposed to care
this particular way, you are disrespecting these troops
like nobody cares otherwise.
And it's all, again, it's all driven by this,
these powers and I think in the media that make us
tell us what we need to think.
They're trying to influence you.
It's fucking frightening to me.
It's very, very frightening.
And I know I'm not immune to it, of course not.
Well, it's frightening because we allow
all of these people collectively to get together
and make decisions for us.
Yeah, right, vote and make decisions.
If we were all on our own figuring it out
so that I'd be less afraid, I'm more afraid
because how easily people can be cattled or like sheep.
It drives me crazy when I see, it's like, you know, again,
I know we're trying to stay off of this topic,
but now you got my brain going.
So it's like the other day I saw LeBron talk about,
talk about this topic, and it's just like,
and I know, I know how it gets down.
I know the poor guy is being called by his PR,
and they're like, listen, you're the face of the MBA.
You need to come out and say something.
People want to know what LeBron James thinks about this whole incident.
Here's a pair.
Here's an idea of what we want you to say, figure this out.
You know what I'm saying?
This is how you need to come up.
And then he just fucking sounds horrible.
Just bullshit.
Talking about a topic that I think he has no clue about
Getting out there and I know he's being told to say that and do that and that to me I see that and I just shake my head because I'm like, you know what?
And I'm not saying that LeBron has to do great things at all
He could be doing all kinds of great donation things. I'm just saying that I know that he didn't feel this like all
a sudden compassion to speak out on this topic
He's being told to speak out on that topic by somebody
because of who he is in the NBA.
And the NBA is like a sister or a cousin to the NFL
and all these other powerhouses.
I mean, these are all good old boy clubs
that are billions of dollars
that are getting distributed amongst these owners
and they're meeting going like,
oh, oh, we gotta fucking do something about this
because we're getting ratings are going down.
We're getting this from people in a shit storm
and they start to gather up their most influential people
and then tell them what to do.
Meanwhile, we're all on social media,
debate and shit, talking shit,
who's racist, who's not like,
we get all caught up in the fucking,
all the bullshit shit storm.
And the real shit goes unnoticed.
The real stuff that we could actually like,
like again, talking about our veterans,
you know, have you guys seen the statistics
on suicide rates?
Among our, it's, it's, it's, it's,
it's the leading cause of death.
That's terrible.
And, and, but nobody really,
like we don't talk about it because
why would they talk about that?
Why would they, you know what that would end up doing
if we made a big deal about that
and if the media really pumped out, it would lower the amount of people
that would enlist in the military. And they don't want that shit. This whole thing with
the national anthem, people that know this in 2009, our government gave, told the NFL,
we will give you money to make sure your players come out and stand for the national anthem
because they know it's like propaganda. It's to get people in and you know,
it doesn't matter where you stand on either side of this.
Just realize that there's people from all ends fighting to manipulate and
influence you for their own self interest, their own benefit.
You know, us being in fitness, you know,
I can relate just being in fitness.
All it took me like I was in professional in fitness.
This was my job for it's been up for over 20 years.
It took me, I don't know, 16 years to figure out
most of what I knew was bullshit.
Yeah.
Fucking 60, and I must, I consider myself a pretty smart,
self-aware person, and I don't think I'm susceptible
to a lot of different things.
16, it took me a long fucking time to learn, you know what I'm saying?
Totally.
All the stuff that we taught that was all bullshit.
And it's just part of the whole thing.
You know, it is.
And the sad part is the stuff that we're all getting upset about, debating about, arguing
about on social media, all of a sudden we feel compelled to put posts about and talk
about, like all that shit, like it's not even the real issue.
Like that's it.
And if you really wanted to do something like this isn't the time to do it.
The time to do it was three months ago when nobody's talking about it and you make you you make a move to
Help something or better a cause on your own with your own money your own fucking time or your own platform
Not right now when it's turned into this, you know, bullshit back and forth. Now it's like it's so it's so drama to me
And it's and it's crazy to see people get all caught up in it.
And that is scary to me.
It is scary to me how easily we can be manipulated
to, it's like a magician trick and nobody knows what it is.
It's like when stuff like this goes on,
like there's some crazy nuclear threat somewhere
that there are like some major massive,
like, you know, movement that we're doing
in some other country that like they're just distracting us mean what mean
what I think mean while it's got as big as it is all all over probably one major reason which is
what uh 15 years or whatever was 1980 something when Donald Trump and the NFL got into some lawsuit
bullshit and Donald Trump loses and guess what we just had some news which I posted about that the CTE situation which so all of a sudden never all eyes were on the NFL and Donald
Trump comes out and say some shit and that was probably just a little fucking jab
that was like fuck you you know that's what that was so these guys are playing
their own bullshit financial game talking shit to each other and we're all
getting into a racial war like what the fuck like this is it's about money and
two big ass power houses
fucking with each other.
And we're all over here getting pissed off over racism.
So the worst fear of those in power
is if people become united in good.
If they can divide people, they can manipulate them.
If they can't divide you, then it's very difficult
to manipulate people
who are divided against each other. And so that's always the strategy. That's a divide and
conquer. It's one of the most classic strategies of all time. Governments have been using it forever.
For as long as we, you know, for as long as history, we've seen these strategies being employed.
And it's so funny that you say that because I know people right now are rolling their eyes like,
oh, big bad government. Or you're one of those guys who thinks the government
is evil it's like well when history has shown us all other governments use this strategy
while a sudden do we think that ours wouldn't?
ours is the only the one special one in all of history that doesn't use any of these
manipulative tactics to get increased power.
Well no I mean we have we've got to be naive to think that.
Come on, we can just lose $6.5 trillion.
Yeah, I mean.
Like, we can just do that.
It's really government.
And people don't know what,
like, where'd it go?
They're gonna just accept it.
I don't know.
Hey, look over here.
And it's all, yeah.
Yeah.
Go bars.
It's all imagine.
You don't need it to equate.
Yeah, it's all imagine.
Which is also how all
I'm going to check it. All off air, you know, those that don't know, because those that don't need it to equate. It's all imagine, which is also how I'm a true. All off air, you know, those that don't know,
because those that don't know, or if you listen
for a long time, you know that Sal loves the talk politics
and we don't talk on the show.
And I don't, I think it's funny.
And I call it sports for nerds.
I call it sports for nerds.
This is like massive drama.
Yeah, because it reminds me the very, the same way if you've ever lit,
the somebody who's familiar with both arenas really well gets what I'm saying.
Those that don't, those are that are in one and not the other may not understand it.
But if you are very familiar with like what die hard, really sports,
fanatic people sound like they're very similar to people talking about politics.
Yeah, the exact same way.
And the arguments are the same, it's because they're...
They have their tribes.
It's like, it's not, there's no,
it's not two plus two equals four,
and that's what we're debating,
and you're trying to say it's six.
Everybody has, it's a character debate.
This guy says it's six, this guy says it's seven.
Yeah.
You're both wrong.
Four, whoever.
Yeah, and studies also show that people in power,
when they are on power over time their brain structure
Actually changes and the way they think actually changes. So we know when people say power corrupt
It is totally true of course. Absolutely true. It's a it's well
This is what I meant scary man. That's why I met this is also why I said I I will I'll definitely read the manifesto
I'll look into this I love learning about these these crazies for the like, I think we should. We should, right? So we we can see like not repeat
the same mistakes. Right. That's I believe. Like I said, with with growth, it will come power.
It's just inevitable because the more power you have over yourself, it's inevitable that you
have power over others too. And it sounds like it's not that I have power on control them. But
mentally that I'm just,
you're at another level than another person
because they haven't learned to process things
the way you have.
You've found outside of the box.
Yeah. And so when you learn to do that,
and you know you are, then the other side comes with that.
Okay, then it becomes dangerous.
You can become manipulative.
And you always got to watch for that.
And I feel like those guys that get to that level,
they never did. They just got out of control and they ran crazy with it.
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Alright, our first question is from Alfie Fitness.
Different ways to train the central nervous system
and how it affects your overall health and gains.
We haven't talked about this in a little while.
Yeah, you did a little post the other day,
and I thought,
You know, it's funny.
I was just hanging, I was making dinner
and I thought, you know, I haven't done a post
on the CNS in a little while,
and I just kind of willy-nilly,
does that even a real phrase will it only?
I think it is. It is. I like using the old phrases. What does it mean, nearly just kind of willy-nilly, does that even a real phrase will it only? I think it is.
It is.
It's an old phrase.
I like using the old phrases.
What does Wily-nilly mean?
What was he, was he?
He was a calbra, was he?
No, Wily-nilly means kind of like non-shalant.
Yeah.
Like, eh, you know, I'm just gonna do this real quick.
And I do this post.
And it resonated with a lot of people.
And I think because people really still
don't really consider the central nervous system when
they're training, trying to get stronger, build muscle, burn body fat.
And I know we've used this analogy many, many times before.
I'll use it again because we do have new listeners all the time.
But the central nervous system really is the amplifier to your speakers, your speakers
being your muscles.
It is that important when it comes to your performance, when it comes to movement, when it comes to your ability to contract, your speakers being your muscles. It is that important when it comes to your performance,
when it comes to movement,
when it comes to your ability to contract,
your muscles, build muscles,
when it comes to your ability to stretch your muscles
and to have mobility.
That's all central nervous system.
And so if you don't consider your central nervous system
and all you ever consider are your muscles,
you're not missing out on half of the equation.
You're missing out on probably a majority of the equation because if you target, if all you ever do is think about your muscles, you're not missing out on half of the equation. You're missing out on probably a majority of the equation
because if you target, if all you ever do is think
about your muscles and you totally disregard the CNS,
you'll run into a lot of problems.
If all you ever do is consider your CNS,
you're gonna probably take care of your muscles as well.
That's how important it is.
So with the central nervous system,
every time you train intensely, every time you do anything, you impact your muscles,
but you also impact your CNS.
But there's kind of a caveat here,
muscles don't really get impacted by anything else
than when they're contracting and moving.
The CNS gets impacted by everything else.
Sleep, stress, your thought,
what you're thinking, stimulants.
If you give somebody, you've heard police officers
talk about how people on PCP are so strong
or studies will show that if you have caffeine,
you'll have X amount percent, better performance
or better strength.
It's all CNS.
You know why I love your analogy
and I've used it a million times now since you have
because I think it's so good
because I can think of, you can keep building upon that. It's I think it's so good because I can think of you can keep building
Upon that visual yeah, well, you can keep building on that visual so when you think of an amplifier an amplifier has you know
You can get one of those amplifiers as like ten different knobs. You're adjusting all the all of what you're putting out to these speakers
Yeah, and just like and if you could think like speakers you input into the speakers and that that's how you get contracting
Contracting that's all it does right. There's nothing else that the muscles really doing right so but the central nervous system has this ability to send this
Waste and that way send more this way and so it's all these little knobs right and think of those knobs like sleep
food, you know, you know, you know what's attitude
Yes, everything right all these knobs are all these other things and the ideas. We'll replace that with triple bass.
You want all those knobs set perfectly.
It's close as you can to perfect
to get the most output from those sounds.
It's gonna be way better.
Yeah, okay, so, and this is, you know,
they've done studies on this,
but athletes who train with weights over the years
learn to call upon the central nervous system
over that time much better than the average person,
even if they have the same amount of muscle,
because muscle size, this influence contraction,
but your CNS is what gives you that output and that power.
I'll give you another example that blew me away
relatively recently, actually, in fact,
this was, I think, during episode recording,
maybe a year ago, when this kind of dawn on me,
but your ability to have flexibility, your ability for your muscles to extend,
is also largely controlled by your central nervous system.
Because if I'm stretching over time, I'm not actually lengthening my muscles.
My muscles don't lengthen. The attachments stay the same.
But what I am doing is I'm teaching my central nervous system to allow me to move into these
new ranges of motion.
In fact, you'll see that within the first five minutes of stretching, if you add tension.
So that's why we're talking passive flexibility versus mobility and why we're leaning so much
more into mobility being such a more valid option, because now we're really
we're teaching the central nervous system that we have ability to strengthen and support
the joint in this range. And so now we can actually extend that range by communicating that, because
really it's a communication forces the communication through the cells.
Another reason why I love this analogy so much
is anybody who understands, you know,
the value of the amplifier for the speakers
realizes the importance of the CNS
to your overall health and gains,
I can hear this question is,
like the question is, how important is the CNS
for our health and gains?
It's the most important.
It is, it's that important because without that speaker,
that amplifier ain't running.
Right.
And actually, the more you put in,
the more focus you start to put in getting a better amplifier,
building a better amplifier, taking care of your amplifier,
it's going to, you're going to, your speakers are going to perform better
than anything else.
That's right.
I mean, I'm so passionate about CNS and training.
And because it's, it's really like a new
found, it's an old, you know, everybody knew about, you know, that it was involved in
strength training, but it's almost like one of those things that hasn't really got
a lot of real focus and attention in like-
It's not sexy.
Yeah.
It's not tangible.
Muscles we can touch, we see-
But it literally everything stems from that.
Yeah.
Well, not only that, but I think inadvertently on accident,
we've learned how to train the central nervous system
just by observing the effects on performance.
Yeah.
So we know things like rest, you know,
we know that, you know, sleep and, you know, meditation,
those types of things, improved performance,
but we don't, you know, we didn't really put two to it together.
At least people aren't really selling
how important the CNS is.
But again, it's the most important.
So I'll give you some other examples that'll kind of trip you out.
So I use a stretching one.
You can go try touching your toes.
You'll go down so far.
Stretch for five minutes.
You'll go down further.
Muscles haven't changed.
That was your central nervous system.
You also possess way more strength in your body than you're able to
exert. That's the revelimenter on your central nervous system. Which people know the example of this,
and I've seen cool discovery channel things where they break. You know when they do the moms
lifting a car off the baby or somebody running out of a super hero bottle. Yeah, somebody who's
crippled also sprinting out of a house that's on fire.
Right, you see these things.
That's your CNS, and it has that natural reveliment.
That's why you also get injured, you know.
That's right.
You exert yourself like that.
It's literally, it's that reveliment
is there to protect you from tearing muscles
right off of your bones, but it's there.
And if you learn how to call upon it and train it,
then you're gonna have much, much better performance.
Yeah, the max hat.
Here's another one, right?
You ever wonder why you're so lethargic and loose
and feeling kind of like not super strong
when you're really hot.
It's a, it depresses the central nervous system.
So it's a very important component
and it also is impacted by exercise like muscles
and it is impacted more than muscles
when super high intensity is applied.
So I love this question too,
because this also helps us explain again,
more of the science behind maps and why it's unique
and why we talk about going to reps short of failure.
This is where that session is.
This is where that's, this is where that's,
this is where that science comes from is,
that is what's really special about the program is,
we do put a lot of focus,
the way we design this, the CNS.
We consider it very short.
Yeah, we consider the CNS more so,
more so than almost any other program I know
that I've ever seen out there.
I'm sure there's somebody else that,
I would've met lots of smart guys that get that it's not the
first time. I would say the kings of CNN understanding how to train the
central nervous. Well Olympic lifters lots of money has gone into investing
how to learn how to train the body to maximize performance while keeping you
at a particular body weight and if you look at the way Olympic lifters train
it's sub-maximal loads, it's lots of
practice, lots of frequency, nobody ever goes to failure.
It's a skill.
And lots of skill, and they don't go to failure.
Well, going to failure, yes, it definitely sends a muscle building signal through the damage
it causes to your muscle, but it also really hammers the central nervous system.
Muscles recover typically faster than the CNS in those particular situations
where now you've got muscles that are recovered
but your CNS is still dampened.
You can't lift like you could before.
You've missed that window of opportunity.
And you know who hates to hear us say this
is the big, huge steroid out bodybuilder guy
that's saying, beast mode, no days off all the time.
That's bullshit.
I hammer the, I go to failure every time I train
and some of that, and that's totally different
because they are getting a signal
an artificial signal sent to their body
to build muscle 24-7.
And testosterone in particular does amp up the CNS
and this is one of the reasons why
if you gave somebody a very fast acting shot
of testosterone within a very
short period of time, they would notice strength gains well before they built any muscle.
There's that CNS stuff happening, right?
So here's a couple of things that you want to do if you want to maximize CNS adaptation
for gains.
The types of training, first and foremost, variety is always important. So whatever you're doing now,
changing it and staying within a new phase will always give you the best results. But if we had to compare all
of them, straight sets of the same exercise, big gross motor movements, is probably the best. So what I mean by
that is if I'm going to hit my legs and I want to build strength and really maximize my CNS output for my quads
and my hamstrings and my glutes.
I'm probably going to be better off doing 10 sets
of sub-maximal squats than I am doing three sets of squats,
three sets of leg extensions,
three sets of leg curls and doing all these other exercises.
But if you combine the two,
you get the best of both worlds.
But we're speaking just for CNS.
Rest is very, very important,
but not just rest where you sleep.
There's also quality of sleep,
and then there's also being able to manage your stress
because anytime you, even if you just sit there
and you're resting, you're not exerting yourself,
if you're racing in your mind with stressful situations
or repetitive obsessive thoughts,
your CNS will get very fatigued.
So those are the things you want to look at.
Supplements that help the CNS, there are supplements that help you amp up the CNS.
These are stimulants like caffeine, but if you abuse them, you will get an adaptive effect
where the CNS depresses itself so that when you take the caffeine now you're at baseline,
so be careful with
that.
I personally like recommending supplements that help replenish the central nervous system.
And these tend to be supplements in the adaptogen category of supplements, things like ashwaganda,
raishi, chaga, ulythro root, which is a type of the called Siberian jinsing, even Panix jinsing, which
is also an adapted gym, but is slightly stimulatory.
You know, that can help as well.
Have you been able to see, have you shopped all that stuff on Thrive yet?
Have you used Thrive for those things?
I used Thrive mainly for all of my, for Thrive market, mainly for my food products.
So like ghee, coconut oil, snacks for the kids.
Yeah, all that stuff.
So you're also forgetting about something with the CNS
that I think is talking about gains
and also why we wrote Maps Prime was teaching you...
Prime is all about the CNS, man.
That's totally what that program was about
was teaching people how to maximize it per workout. And that's to say, that's that's that's totally what that program was about was teaching people
How to maximize it per workout and that's to say let's say you're not even following maps you have your own program
It's like whatever this is to teach people like that that listen before you go into workout assess your body
And there's a compass that comes in there kind of tells you areas you need to focus and then we teach you how to prime it
Prime the areas it for your body
That's going to get the most out of your current workout.
I've got a great analogy.
Hopefully I don't do it just in with this,
but if we're gonna,
ramp in water this shit.
Come on man.
We'll throw a monkey in that wrench.
So if we're, people forgot about that one already.
If we're sticking to the speaker and amplifier analogy,
let's say your goal for your workout,
your goal for your workout is to get the most,
bang for your buck,
build muscle, burn the most body fat.
So if we're using the analogy of speakers,
your goal would be to get the best sound.
Okay.
Do you just walk up to a stereo system
without checking the equalizer, without checking,
and just turn it on full blast?
No, you would get better sound if you went over to it.
Sorry, tweak it.
Start listening a little bit tweaking things, tweaking things,
and then turning it up, and boom, perfect sound. That's what priming your workout does.
Is it's getting that equalizer and that amplifier perfect so that when you turn those speakers
on, the sound is beautiful. Good job with it now. I like it.
Blue dream. I mean, we have water. Yeah, can't really compare. All right, our next question is from Greg Kellen PT.
What do you say to clients when they haven't followed
their workout nutrition plan for a week?
Do you tell them off or do you try to be encouraging?
You sleep in, you'll never make it.
When a client has not seen results
because of the lack of effort on their part,
when do you tell them that they are wasting your time and their?
Who do you think is most likely to tell a client off?
I think at one point all of us.
I think I actually think you.
Me? Yeah.
Yeah, I did.
I used to do everything.
I used to do it.
You've told stories, or I was surprisingly for what an asshole and straightforward I am,
everyone, everyone.
I don't think I did this a lot at all.
You mean in the beginning? I used to, so when I had clients that frustrated me,
and this is just me, right?
Like as much as it ate inside of me like I just did,
I had a client that I could not stand training
for eight fucking years.
And I did not need the money.
I could have totally had someone fill her slot,
but I always like to take that on as a challenge.
As a trainer, I pride myself on being a chameleon
and being able to mold my personality around there
and sometimes they're lazy, sometimes they're liars,
sometimes they're dialed in, sometimes they're wishy-washy.
And I had them all, right, I've trained them all.
And I would always training myself while I've trained them all and I would always train I was training myself
while I'm training them to be a better trainer because in reality, I'm going to see 10 more
cases of this down the road.
So I don't I never told a client off.
So I was direct as I talk and I would be direct.
There's a difference between being direct and telling them straight up about things, but
I would also I would never tell a client off.
So I had clients that would ignore a lot of the nutrition advice
and then they would keep bringing up issues they'd have.
And then I would just reference exactly what I said,
you know, again, I'm like, and then we would go back and see
like what they actually changed, they didn't change anything,
but they didn't care enough to change it.
So, you know, for me, I just have a hard time like hammering
that person like over and over and over again change it. So, you know, for me, I just have a hard time like hammering that person
like over and over and over again about it. Like they literally need to decide themselves.
Right. And I would just reiterate that like in a nice way. And then they'd either take it like,
you know, let's take offense to it or they'd actually change something about it. So I have a story
interrupt you here, so because I had a client that I just saw this morning, it's kind of funny, we're talking about this.
I haven't seen her in a long time,
and she was with me for years and years and years,
and occasionally when she's got major issues,
she's had knee surgery, hip surgery, back issues,
got all this stuff, she'll call me up,
and to kind of take a look at her
and maybe give her a couple of movements that she can do,
and so we occasionally do this.
And one of the things I know about her, I used to train her consistently,
is a lot of the stuff she will not do unless I am there and making her do it.
And otherwise, she never puts in the work that she needs to.
And we kind of had to have this conversation today that, you know, she'd been reaching out,
reaching out, wanting to get in my schedule, and I've just been so busy.
I'm like, you know, I just don't have time.
And then she did, and I helped her out with the things
that I said, but listen,
then none of this, I don't even want you to come see me
because I'm a waste of your money
until you apply these things that I'm giving you.
Now, if you just want to give me money
and see me every once in a while,
and then tell you some things that could help you
and then you kind of do them or don't do them and then you go off, then that's fine
but just know what you're signing up for. If you really want me to help you, you really
want to get rid of this pain, you really want to feel better. These are the things you
got to do and this is how often you have to do them. And so those are the type of conversations
that I have with clients that you just got gotta give them better perspective. A lot of them have this distorted idea
of what getting in shape is like
or losing those last 15 pounds is gonna be like,
and what they're actually really doing.
You gotta help give them that perspective
and say and listen, if you're okay with having pain
and bitching about it and taking drugs every once in a while
to make them feel better and And you're okay with that.
Then we keep up with this pattern that we have going on right now where I ask you what
you ate, you forget because you didn't track it or you're not eating right or another
night we made three days in a row and then you had this like I'm okay with that.
I can still help you.
I can still teach you exercises and movements.
I can still make your life better and enhance it.
But if you want to make change and you want to get better
like leaner or more muscle, you want to make progress
then we have to break some of these habits.
Yeah, eventually you have to have a serious conversation.
You know, like we all got to a position
where we didn't feel right, like taking the money
because then it's like, it's a reflection of also,
you know, use a trainer and you're coaching with them. And so I always, like I got it's a reflection of also, you know, you use a trainer and you're coaching with them.
And so I'd always, like, I got it to a point and I loved,
I loved this client to death, but I mean, he would wear my shirt,
you know, and he'd wear my shirt and like, he wouldn't do it.
I'd tell him to do it anymore.
He'd mess around like as he'd come in, you know,
he wouldn't eat right.
And I'm just like, you know, like, you can't like rep me
and then not listen to anything
I say.
Well, I learned my lesson really strongly with this particular situation.
I had a client and I had, I've only done this a few times in my career, but I sat down
with her and really called her out and she left and never came back.
And it was a learning lesson for me
because I realized like, what am I,
what am I really trying to get done here?
Right, are you really helping that?
My goal is to help this person improve their health
and wellness in some way.
Now this person was seeing me between one to two days a week.
Otherwise, she did zero activity and she ate terribly.
Now, what if she had continued to see me
one or two days a week, but continued doing the other stuff,
you know, that, like I said, not exercising
and eating horribly.
She's better off than she was before.
She's still better off.
Now, because I sat down and told her,
you're wasting my time, you're not doing what I'm telling you,
and you know, you need to put more effort into this.
Now she's left and she's not doing any of it.
I have not helped her at all.
And so now-
That's a double age.
And I learned my lesson with this
because I did her a disservice,
and I had lost my integrity in the sense that
this wasn't about her, this wasn't about my clients,
it was about me.
I'm taking it personally because it hurts my ego
Because you're not doing what I tell you and I'm getting offended by it
Mm-hmm. The reality is if you're a really good trainer
You need to meet your client where they are at right me. They meet these people where they're at and that might just be
That's a great point at a very very very surface level and that's okay, right?
It's not it's not your goal goals for her. It's her goals
That's it don't take it
We always get wrapped up to that because we feel so much pride
You know, that's it and don't identify and don't identify with it. It's it's them
It's not you know don't make it about you but yeah, you know
You know that's why you get a help that why I said you got to you got to help them gain perspective because most of the time
They just don't have the right
Perspect they don't understand they don't realize what they're doing is giving them the results they currently have
Yeah, you're you're when they when they look at you frustrated because they're not waiting
It's like no you look and feel the way you feel because that's the results you get for what you've done so far
Just explain it to them and you need to help them make that connection. Now, if you want more or you want,
these are the steps that we need to take to get there.
And I'm not gonna tell you you have to.
Like, this is your life, this is your body.
I've had clients that I trained for years
that was completely complacent with being 30 pounds overweight
and never lost it.
Yeah, never lost it because, you know what,
they came to see me
because I helped them move better and I burned the the calories extra calories that kept them from
blowing up and getting even bigger and as much as I thought they should lose 30 pounds and change
some of their eating patterns and do other things like that it's not what made them happy. No,
and I was that was not what I was there for you. And you still added value to their lives. I mean
when I learned this up until this, the average client would stay with me
for like a year or two, which is still much higher than the industry standard.
But when I finally figured this part out, where I really had to meet my clients where they
were, at this point, after that, clients would stay with me for 10 or more years.
And I haven't trained any clients for two-year-old trainer wisdom.
It is.
Cause like new young trainers coming in
and like anybody, you're filled with so much passion
to change people's lives.
You wanna motivate everyone?
Yeah, get in, and that's where all that coming from.
It's like, you know, just pride going into it
and like, you know, they're representing me
and like, but think about that statement.
It's all me.
Well look, I said this on the pursuit podcast the other day.
People don't realize that, you know,
literally less than 20% of our clients
actually reach their ultimate goal of fitness.
Long term.
Long term.
So if that's true, and I like to think
I'm pretty good at what I do,
that means 80% are failing.
So most are gonna fail.
So what can I provide for these people that are inevitably probably going to fail at their
ultimate fitness goal?
I need to not get hung up on all this person could be here, could be there.
It's like, you still have influence because you're constantly talking to them.
Right.
And so you like, I love that I think what Sal said was such a great statement was that you
meet them where they are, you know, and they are just not there yet where they're willing to put the thing,
do the things they need to do to get to the next level.
And they need to be okay with that because you're not a magician.
You're not somebody who's going to like do something magical in a session
or tell them some all sudden game changing thing that's going to change all
sudden change.
They have to change patterns and habits.
I'll tell you what, I haven't trained clients now in over a year and a half
or whatever since we've been doing, you what, I haven't trained clients now in over a year and a half or whatever
since we've been doing, you know,
my pump went full time.
And all my old clients still working out
and they're still doing it
and these are all people that were never into exercise
and it's because I trained them
and I got them past that three or four year, five year mark.
They're with me for 10 years
and now they've made lifestyle, actual real lifestyle changes.
I've had clients who came to me
because they wanted to lose 30 pounds.
They didn't lose 30 pounds until like three years later.
And on their own, it's like it finally clicked,
everything we've been talking about,
and I'm not hammering them, I'm meeting them where they're at.
All of a sudden, three years later, 30 pounds gone,
and then for the next six years,
you never know when you saw a click.
That's a, it's totally, you know.
You have to get the analogy of the lady I'm talking about right now.
I've been telling her the same things for a very long time.
And I got to her today and I was just like, listen,
like here's the, I'm gonna give you.
And I picked just five movements.
Like here's the deal, she's got Prime Pro, right?
And she, all of the prime pro exercises,
she needs to be doing.
But I know how daunting that is for her to do and sit down
and do these repattering movements for five minutes
and ask her to do 15 different exercises every day.
So what I did was I said, listen,
I'm gonna pick the five most impactful ones I think
will alleviate the issues that you have going on.
You need to do all of them.
Well, that's the goal is to get there.
But we're gonna start here.
I'm gonna take you through them to show you the intent
that I want you to do them with, and then after that,
I don't want you to see me for a couple of weeks,
and then when I'm gonna see you, I'm gonna know
if you're doing those things, and if you are, I can progress you.
If you're not, then there's no reason for you to even see me
because you're still needing to do that.
And so you're just gonna have that kind of attitude
and I think over time, you'll get that confidence
of what you can provide and do for them
and you'll learn how to explain it better.
And I think that's really what it is.
You're always trying to give them a better perception
of what they're doing and what it's adding up to
and what you can do for them and what you can't do for them
and what they need to do together, right?
Next up is sweet or V.
What do you do for those nights when you just can't sleep?
How does this affect your training the following day?
Hmm.
So I've never really had issues with going to sleep.
My issue was always like, okay, now it's time
to go to sleep. So if I get stuck on something or I start reading, then I can stay up all
night long. And I used to really get away with being able to do this. And as I've gotten
older, maybe I'm just more aware of how much it truly impacts me the following day.
You know, it will impact you directly, right away.
Like, if you have a shitty night of sleep,
even if you think you feel lost
and you drink lots of coffee,
there are real measurable effects it has on the body.
Sleep is one of the top most important things
that you should look at when it comes to
not just muscle building and fat loss,
but just overall health.
Now, for one thing that I started implementing,
and I started doing this, I don't know, maybe six months ago or so,
and I recommend this to all my clients, is a sleep routine.
And what I do is, as I tell all my clients,
one hour before going to bed.
So if you know you need to go to bed at 10, at 9,
turn all your electronics
off. And if you can dim all your lights or turn off your lights and go by candle light.
And we know that this has a positive effect on sleep quality through study. It does, if
you have electronics on right up into the minute you go to sleep, it affects things like
melatonin production while you're sleeping. and the stages of sleep change a little bit
versus having that sleep routine.
I also recommend that people take either a cold shower,
believe it or not, a cold shower,
an hour before bed, it will get you to sleep faster.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
I know you would think it stimulates, yeah.
You would think it's the opposite,
but cooling a cool body makes you sleep better
than being hot.
This is why they say sleep naked in a very cold way.
Well, I know for sure that's true.
I do like freezing cold.
Yeah, so I've actually messed around with this
and it's true, you don't wanna do it right before bed,
but like an hour before bed.
I'm gonna hold them to that when we go on these trips.
You could do that, oh my God, we're gonna be up.
You know how cold the water is gonna be on top?
I'll try it, dude, I'm always looking for more hacks
in this arena. Here's a deal.
What are these nights that you just can't see?
Yeah, you have probably the worst.
Well, I mean, here's how I feel though.
What do I do on these nights now or what would I do?
I would punch myself in the dick because I feel like
I've hacked this already.
And if I'm having this issue, that means
I didn't do what I know what I'm supposed to do.
So I've definitely, this was an issue for me.
This is something, and I still do, but if I do,
it's because I know what I did.
Like it's no longer like, I used to have these sleepless nights,
and I wouldn't know why.
Where now, if I have a sleepless night,
or I toss and turn at night, oh, I know exactly why.
And it's my own fault.
So now, like I said,
I didn't go through the process.
That's what I meant by I punched myself.
I wouldn't literally punch myself in the dick,
but for me, that's like, hey, I get,
that's what you get.
You know what I'm saying?
You know better, you should,
you gotta do these things.
What do you do?
What have you been doing?
So the electronic, the electronic thing.
The electronic thing.
The electronic thing.
The electronic thing.
The turning off the electronics
was the biggest thing for me.
So that, if I get it off by seven o'clock,
so that's the goal always.
And I'll tell you,
it's hard to have state consistent.
I've been saying this now,
if you've been listening to podcasts
for a long time, I've been talking about this
for quite some time.
I definitely, and I know I've been called out,
I know fucking Ron calls me out all the time,
he sees me on the forum.
He's like, hey, what happened to your 7 o'clock curfew?
Like, fuck you, I'm in my private forum.
I didn't get on here all day and I'm trying to spend some time in our community.
And I'm doing a solid for the team and you fucking call me out on my fucking 7 o'clock.
But yeah, that happens.
Can't you slip in?
Sometimes I don't get a chance to get in the form and we all make a conscious effort
to be in there as much as we can answering questions, right?
So it's a hard habit.
It's hard for me to train myself.
And really, I allow myself the freedom
on Saturday and Sunday.
It's Monday through Friday.
I tell myself, shut that fucker off at seven o'clock.
If I get the, if I stay away from my phone from seven o'clock,
and then if I really want to sleep like a baby,
I do the candle lights and the turn of the lights up.
But sometimes, you know, Katrina's in the kitchen
and doing things and I can't expect to house a party.
I have to stop my caffeine consumption.
Like before four.
Oh, that's a no brand.
Yeah, it's usually a no-bra, it's like I say that,
but like it's such a, like if I'm working on someone
on the computer, I'll catch myself getting,
I don't even look at the clock or what time it is. Oh, you don't know. Oh,
after lunch, it is a habit of mine. Then I'll make that mistake. Oh,
my God. And then that will totally affect me that night. And then my brain will
spend all night. And yeah, it does affect my workouts, you know, the following
day, if I don't get that kind kind of quality sleep that we just, we feel and it charges you,
it really helps you to recover.
It's just like carrying that.
If it's not gonna affect that workout,
it's gonna affect the one after that.
You know, then it's like the snowballing sort of effects.
So, sleep is very important.
Yeah, brain FM has been the other big one for me.
Use that nightly or only when you feel like you need it.
Exactly, so I believe that, I don't think, as much as I promote brain FM. You don other big one for me. Use that nightly or only when you feel like you need it. Exactly.
So I believe that I don't think as much as I promote brain FM.
You don't want to abuse it.
Well, yeah, because then we're, I mean,
we just talk about all the time.
Our bodies are adaptation machines.
So my body, have you lowered your consumption of cannabis too?
Like, alternated that?
No, I have a very consistent intake of cannabis
and also, like, I come off. Like like so if I've been if I find myself where it's been like four weeks
Where I've been consistently smoking every single night. I'll take a I'll take a day or two off for sure
If I feel like I've stretched that even longer than I'll add to even date more days off too much of that and I can't sleep man too much
Cannabis and I am oh yeah, I only can do a couple hits.
If I do, I'm literally, I take two puffs,
I smoke from a joint, which is not ideal
and I know that I should vaporize and none of that.
But I have literally two puffs off a joint
and that's it and it's just enough to settle me down,
put me to sleep and otherwise, if I have four or five,
I'll get all wired.
I get all wired and chatty and I wanna sleep.
Yeah, I get too high for it. Yeah, I'm not trying to get it. You know, I'll get all wired. I get all wired and chatty, you know, I want to say that. Yeah, I get too high for it.
Yeah, I'm not trying to get it.
You know, I'll get ready for it, bet.
There's a very, very strong psychological component
that contributes to sleep as well.
So, and it sounds like this wouldn't be true,
but it is the more nights you can string together
of good sleep, the more likely you are to have good sleep
because you've become, you're less stressed out about not getting good sleep, the more likely you are to have good sleep, because you've become, you're less stressed out
about not getting good sleep.
So part of the reason why the sleep routine works also
is because it's a routine.
You're setting yourself up, you're relaxing.
It worked last time, it's gonna work again
and that there's that psychological component of,
oh, okay, I think this is gonna work again,
and then sure enough, it does.
Using substances or products like brain FM all the time can also do the same thing meaning when I dabble when I don't have it
Maybe maybe my body's fine without it
But now I feel like I need it and I have to have it and that can influence me
So there's a huge psychological component here totally the other thing that I recommend to people is to do a a
mindfulness practice
Before bed one of the easiest things you can do
is just belly breathe right there and bed.
Lay on your back, breathe into your belly,
have your belly rise, hold it a little bit, breathe out,
hold that a little bit, and just do that back and forth
and relax your entire body.
And you'll see how much better you feel.
And the whole slow walking thing.
Oh, slow walk meditation.
Yeah, Courtney and I have been doing that.
And that's really helped a lot.
You guys actually do that together.
She did together.
Sometimes I can't do that.
I would love to see that.
I tried to get her on the whim off.
I would love to be like,
because whim off breathing with me,
but she's not like in it.
Like, I tried. I do, I still do my barefoot walking, we walk the dogs and Katrina doesn't normally do it,
but she'll walk with me, but it'll be pretty funny to do the, she would,
she'd be pissed if I, she knew I said that.
She cares about me and cool more than me.
You think I care about that?
Camel Milti, that's another one too.
Camel Milti, you can use regularly.
And it helps settle you there.
I love Camel Milti.
All right, our next question is from Garrett Morellas.
Do you guys believe in aliens?
Who picked this one?
Dude, I did.
That was me.
You know what's funny?
I was watching Into the cosmos with Neil.
Neil DeGrasse Tyson.
Yeah, and the very first episode of it,
he's talking about the vastness of the universe,
how big it is, and how big the observable universe is,
and how that's probably a part of what they call a multiverse.
The vastness of the size of the universe is so incomprehensible. I was literally watching
it in almost getting emotional. Oh, it makes me weird. Yeah, I get weirded out when I
watch it. It's just so crazy. It's like your brain can't fathom that much space.
It's just too string theory on top of that. It's so big. Like you travel as fast as universal
allows you to travel. You'll never reach outside of the, you know, outside of our own solar system in your lifetime little
alone, you know, out of our galaxy or at the edge of the universe.
So, yeah.
With, if in fact, life is what we think it is, as we experience it, this organic life that
evolved on a planet or whatever, the odds that life doesn't exist somewhere else in this incredibly
immense and unfathomably old universe is incomprehensibly small.
There's a lot of big words there.
Of course life exists somewhere else out there.
I think the real question is, what would it look like and would we recognize it if we saw it?
There are other dimensions to existence and maybe we're around other forms of life now
and we just can't perceive them or experience them the same way a two-dimensional being
wouldn't be able to perceive the third dimension.
So that's the real question.
The second one, the second thing that makes me trip out is
if you know the universe is as old as we think it is and as big as it is
and if the nature of life is similar to our what we do here on earth, the nature of life is to create its own self-aware life
then the odds are that we are some kind of somebody else's
creation, right, you know, and it could actually thought about this. It could actually be many many many many many many but then the odds are that we are some kind of somebody else's creation.
Right.
And it could actually be many, many, many, many, many layers deep.
We'll think about our next creation, which is artificial intelligence and what that's
going to look like.
I mean, we're going to be sending these things out to places, remote places, different
planets where we couldn't otherwise because it doesn't support life, but it could support robots.
It's, we've identified, and I can't remember the name
of these little, little,
little buggers, this little species of,
I don't know what they're considered,
I don't think they're a bacteria,
but there's little, I know you've seen pictures of them,
they have this like this tube nose looking thing
and these little claws and,
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
And they survive in the vacuum of space,
they survive in the hottest parts of earth they survive in the hottest parts of Earth
and in the coldest parts of Earth.
And they can survive for long periods of time without food
and so it's like, well, there's evidence of life
that could probably live almost anywhere,
travel through space on a meteor
and be seated on another planet.
Oh yeah.
Oh yeah, that's one of the prevailing theories, right?
This is the,
pan sperming, sperm, yeah.
I definitely believe there are other sheep
and other pens for sure.
I don't know if aliens is what,
I would, I don't know how, I think aliens,
that's what you would call them, right?
Right, right.
Well, aliens is what we call them, right?
I mean, we could be the alien, right?
Yeah.
You know, when you think of it like that,
like for all we know, there was something, someone,
someone, like you said, so far.
Who started in Mars, apparently.
Yeah, that's as far as we're not even getting that far yet.
Like we're not even getting that far,
or something could be so much further on their side.
No, the Voyager, I think when we launched the Voyager,
like 1973 or something like that,
I think it just left the solar system.
It's been flying out there that long at ridiculous speeds, and I think it just reached the edge of our solar system. It's been flying out there that long at ridiculous speeds and I think it just reached the edge of our solar system.
And on the voyager, there's a record of us talking about mankind.
There's noises. There's an anatomical picture.
Yeah, there's music, there's mathematical equations.
There's like a picture of an anatomically correct human, male and female, you know, just in case
somebody finds it or whatever.
Pretty crazy, right?
Just gold record.
Yeah, it's a gold record.
What if we just like sent, what if like,
it's a gold record?
Because it'll last longer.
So this is the technology of the time, right?
It's not digital, it's this.
But what if like some like invasive species finds it
and they're like, we leave our address on that shit.
No, well that's really world.
Yeah, right.
We're looking for someone to live.
Oh, look at these idiots.
They actually send us a map.
Oh, I think, you know, if we do find life out there somewhere, it'll probably find us
first if it hasn't already.
And will it be organic life?
I don't know.
I don't think it'll be organic.
I think it'll be post organic. Yeah. I think it's more like I think it's more like like you said the pan spermy a thing where it's just bacteria
Like little little small life forms that have been able to travel that far of a distance to get here
You know, they're gonna hitch on to something more than likely and they've already been doing that like we I'm sure like we've
You can get little meteorites hitting in this bacteria, whatever
form it is has already been part of our ever changing landscape.
So fucking weird.
Well, I think it's a fascinating theory with the, we'll be organic or artificial. I think
that's a really cool thing to think about because that's something in our very near future
because then we're going to have to redefine artificial.
Did you see what happened on Facebook yesterday?
No, you didn't see that on all of the news.
So I think it was yesterday.
So the two AI programs that Facebook had running or whatever they had to shut down.
Oh, no, that wasn't yesterday.
I was a little while ago.
Oh, I was.
Yeah.
Was this the one where?
So I read this.
So they created their own language.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
So they created two, you know, these computers
that could learn from each other, artificially,
or learn from, you know, their own mistakes
and learn from each other.
And these two computers started communicating
in a language that they invented.
Yeah.
Yeah, the plot.
That is so creepy, dude.
So they shut them down.
Fuck yeah, we should have. Bull that fucking blood now.
What are they talking about?
I wanna know.
He's like, how do we escape these humans?
They've created a killer that I'm easy.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
And here's the other thing, like,
you're speaking pig Latin.
So think about it this way too.
Like if post organic life exists,
would it exist in this material world, or would it not create
its own reality in something that's super small?
In other words, why would people always afraid that artificial intelligence is going to
see us as a threat and destroy us?
I think that they wouldn't even see us as anything.
I think they would just go into their own internet and disappear.
Or, or, or, or, don't you think if, okay, so if you take a theory from black mayor,
how they will be able to,
you know, and like what they're saying in the next 40 years,
it will be able to download our consciousness
and then upload it to another meat wagon.
Then I would think like, imagine if we had,
imagine if we had the capabilities of,
right before you die,
so you get to say,
you pay your half a million dollars
that you saved up your whole entire life
to make sure you still continue to live on
through another body, right?
And it's your consciousness, they download your consciousness on a main hard drive.
They then upload it to another artificial and you know, that is, and that you now, your consciousness is now downloaded into this.
Well, so here, and then think we overpopulate this area.
So we've now set ourselves up on the moon and Mars and it doesn't matter that life because they're artificial so we can we can program
them or create them to be able to live in an area. Well, I'll take taking a step
for really your soul is the point my point is saying that going going going
down going down that rabbit hole is that we wouldn't go looking to kill
somebody or get on somebody else's world right right? If there is life, you know, eons away from us, then I doubt they would be in search of
us that hard.
They would probably be caring more about procreating themselves and taking care of their,
like, we're, what are we doing?
We're continuing to destroy this place until we're going to have to go somewhere else.
I think they'll probably just watch us and laugh and be like, oh, look at those primitive.
You know, so, so this will get your mind spinning.
This will get your mind spinning.
Let's just say we do have the technology
to download your consciousness to a computer, right?
So now you're inside this computer land
or you're in another body.
Is that you or is it a perfect copy of you?
It's a perfect copy of you.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, you still died.
But you don't care though.
You still died, but now I still see Adam over here.
And I'm like, oh, it's you Adam. You like, yeah, it's still there, dude. Yeah, weird huh. Like, I, you still died. But you don't care, though. You still died, but now I still see Adam over here, and I'm like, oh, it's you Adam.
You like, yeah, it's still there, dude.
Yeah, weird, huh?
Like, I got these metal arms.
Yeah, like, fuck that kid.
I don't know, man.
I tell you what, we're at the beginning of,
we're witnessing the beginning of this kind of planetary,
where humans are communicating on a planetary scale,
where people are starting to,
we're starting to merge into this massive planetary culture,
which is gonna happen over the next 100 years or so
with technology the way it's working.
It's pretty crazy.
I don't know if I wanna be alive when all this stuff happens.
I don't know if it'll be something I can even deal with.
You know what I'm saying?
I might, I wanna, imagine being that you will be like
the old people that are telling everybody they're crazy.
You know what I'm saying. I don't know. Well, right by then they'll have like some way to reverse our aging and all that and we'll be just fine
We'll be the same history does tell us that we are bound to be the old guy on the rocker rocking back and forth talking about the good old days
And how you all you kids are doing this weird shit. So I mean we used to fuck people when I was a kid. Right, that's what I'm saying.
It's the weird, to us,
what they're doing will be so weird and so,
you'll have no desire
because you're completely content with the way things were.
And I think that's how so many,
like how many 80-year-olds that talk like that, right?
They talk to you and they're like,
I'm content with what I have
and what I, and you create that for yourself at all point.
Well, dude, like, on the cosmos again what I, and you create that for yourself at one point. Well, dude, like on the cosmos again,
I love watching stuff like that,
because these are all subjects I'm passionate about.
And what's crazy is all life on earth.
All life on earth has the same basic four molecules
that create their DNA.
They're all sourced from the same fucking place.
It's just a different combination of the same program,
but it's a program.
It's definitely a program that contains information that tells a potato to be a potato, or we
change some of the stuff, and then it makes you a human.
One and zero.
And if you go back far enough, exactly, if you go back far enough, you can see we all share
similar fundamental traits like turning glucose into energy or using oxygen or water.
Those particular codes exist in most things genes
because it's such a fundamental component of life
on earth that a banana has it and so does a monkey
and so does a dog and so does bacteria.
It's fucking crazy, it's really, really crazy
if you think about it.
And as sort of God do, it sounds like
we were all created by some other artificial intelligence
or I know you guys are looking at me, God,
whatever you wanna call it.
Oh, he just proved it.
She said it out of his mouth.
Oh, no.
Team Jesus.
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