Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 619: Improving Sexual Fitness, Active Recovery vs Full Rest Days, Oly Lifting Shoes & MORE

Episode Date: October 18, 2017

Organifi Quah! iTunes Review Winners! In this episode of Quah, sponsored by Organifi (organifi.com, code "mindpump" for 20% off), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about active recovery da...ys vs full rest days, why Oly lifting shoes are so popular, thoughts on sexual fitness and which reality TV show they would like to be on if they had to choose one. Chunky or Smooth? (3:45) Childhood memories affecting adulthood (5:45) Being ungrateful Infomercials Sal’s Russian spa expedition (21:05) Quah question #1 – What are your thoughts on active recovery days vs. full rest days? (30:47) Thrive Market  (41:59) Quah question #2 – Oly lifting shoes, why are they so popular? Is everyone lying about their ankle mobility? (45:46) Quah question #3 – What are your thoughts on sexual fitness…such as through Jaiya Ma and Kim Anami? (56:44) Quah question #4 – If you guys had the choice to be on a reality TV show, which one would you choose? (1:13:56) Related Links/Products Mentioned: Organifi Discount Code "mindpump" Thrive Market (Mind Pump sponsor)  One FREE month’s membership $20 off your first three purchases of $49 or more (That’s $60 off total!) Free shipping on orders of $49 or more Sexy Athlete Bundle Alexander's Steakhouse Archimedes Banya Refuge Olympic Shoes or Chucks for Squats? (article) Jaiya's 5 Erotic Blueprints! Your Path to Sexual Mastery! – (YouTube) Kim Anami Wellness: Sex Your Power Source – (YouTube) 2000s reality TV stars - Where are they now? (article) Mind Pump TV – (YouTube) People Mentioned: Russell Brunson Don Lapre Melissa Wolf (@meliwolff)  Instagram Gunnar Lovelace (@gunnarlovelace)  Twitter Jaiya - Sex Educator (@JaiyaNWSE)  Twitter (website) Kim Anami (@kimanami)  Instagram (website) Ben Zorn C.S.C.S. (@benzornlife)  Instagram Mike "The Situation" Sorrentino (@mikethesituation)  Instagram Also check out Thrive Market! Thrive Market makes purchasing organic, non-GMO affordable. With prices up to 50% off retail, Thrive Market blows away most conventional, non-organic foods. PLUS, they offer a NO RISK way to get started which includes: 1. One FREE month’s membership 2. $20 Off your first three purchases of $49 or more (That’s $60 off total!) 3. Free shipping on orders of $49 or more How can you go wrong with this offer? To take advantage of this offer go to www.thrivemarket.com/mindpump Would you like to be coached by Sal, Adam & Justin? You can get 30 days of virtual coaching from them for FREE at www.mindpumpmedia.com. Get our newest program, MAPS Prime Pro, which shows you how to self assess and correct muscle recruitment patterns that cause pain and impede performance and gains. Get it at www.mindpumpmedia.com! Get MAPS Prime, MAPS Anywhere, MAPS Anabolic, MAPS Performance, MAPS Aesthetic, the Butt Builder Blueprint, the Sexy Athlete Mod AND KB4A (The MAPS Super Bundle) packaged together at a substantial DISCOUNT at www.mindpumpmedia.com. Make EVERY workout better with MAPS Prime, the only pre-workout you need… it is now available at mindpumpmedia.com Have Sal, Adam & Justin personally train you via video instruction on our YouTube channel, Mind Pump TV. Be sure to Subscribe for updates. Get your Kimera Koffee at www.kimerakoffee.com, code "mindpump" for 10% off! Get Organifi, certified organic greens, protein, probiotics, etc at www.organifi.com Use the code “mindpump” for 20% off. Go to foursigmatic.com/mindpump and use the discount code “mindpump” for 15% off of your first order of health & energy boosting mushroom products. Add to the incredible brain enhancing effect of Kimera Koffee with www.brain.fm/mindpump 10 Free sessions! Music for the brain for incredible focus, sleep and naps! Also includes 20% if you purchase! Please subscribe, rate and review this show! Each week our favorite reviewers are announced on the show and sent Mind Pump T-shirts! Have questions for Mind Pump? Each Monday on Instagram (@mindpumpmedia) look for the QUAH post and input your question there. (Sal, Adam & Justin will answer as many questions as they can)

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Starting point is 00:00:00 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts. Saldas Defano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. In this episode of Mind Pump, for the first 30 minutes we have some fun conversation. We talk about, if Justin was peanut butter, would he be chunky or would he be smooth? I think we do the at-to-the-hybrid. What kind of toothpaste would you use? I would taste delicious.
Starting point is 00:00:28 We talk about how our childhood influences our purchases as adults. Yeah, how much money have you wasted? Find out why Adam has two amounts. Remote control cars in his shed. And we talk about my visit to the Russian nude spa. Spa or is it a bathhouse? How sexy. It was a good time. Is it a brothel or was it a bathhouse? It sounds sexy. It was a good time.
Starting point is 00:00:45 Is it a brothel or was it a spa? And it's co-ed. And we also mentioned Thrive Market, one of our sponsors. If you go to thrivemarket.com, forward slash Mind Pump, you get $20 off the first three orders of $49 or more, plus free shipping and one month free membership. Basically, you get everything and you lose nothing.
Starting point is 00:01:05 It's awesome. And then we get to the questions. The first question was, what are our thoughts on active recovery days versus full rest days? Should you move? Does that make you recover faster? Or should you lay down on your bed? I'm laying down on your fat ass.
Starting point is 00:01:19 And watch TV all day long. The second question was, Olympic lifting shoes. Why are they so popular? Are they just about people just trying to lie themselves about their ankle mobility? Or are you just trying to look cool? Exactly. The next question was, what are our thoughts on sexual fitness? Luckily we have Justin here, our local gangsters, our expert on sexual fitness. And he, unfortunately, you can't get all the bowling ball. His demonstrations, but he just show us, what's it called, gelking?
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Starting point is 00:03:34 Send the name I just read to itonsofmimepumpmedia.com. Your shirt size, your shipping address, and we'll get that right out to you. Congratulations. Are you a chunky peanut butter? Are you a smooth guy? Yeah, I'm a smooth guy, bro. Were you ever chunky? Don't lie, either.
Starting point is 00:03:51 I mean, I did it out of necessity. Like that was my only option. If you were a peanut butter, you would have chunks in it, though. Like if you have like a embodied, if we had a jar of juxtapose. You would be smooth. And I would be the one that like has all the oil The top no that's all natural that's how shit that's sound
Starting point is 00:04:09 I'm more like Jeff you're a you're kind of chunky man I'm not that pro city jiff that's a chucky I'm smooth Adam Adam would be the low fat high protein one I would have chocolate mixed in no yeah as I say I would I'm the jam in the I'd be like I'd be like, I'd be like, I'd be like, I'd be like, I'd be like, I'd be like, I'd be like, I'd be like, I'd be like, I'd be like, I'd be like, I'd be like, I'd be like, I'd be like,
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Starting point is 00:04:36 I'd be like, I'd be like, I'd be like, I'd be like, I'd be like, I'd be like, I'd be like, I'd be like, I'd be like, I'd be like, I'd be like, I'd be like, I'd be like, I'd be like, I'd be like, I'd be like, I'd be like, I'd be like, I'd be like, I'd be like, I'd be like, I'd be like, I'd be like, I'd be like, I'd be like, I'd be like, I'd be like, I'd be like, I'd be like, I'd be like, Have you guys seen that so maybe you probably haven't because you don't have kids. I know Justin has they actually sell at the grocery store in the refrigerator section
Starting point is 00:04:48 Made and packaged Peanut butter and jelly sandwich. We wait in packages like smuckers makes a fucking sandwich It's in a plastic wrapper dude people love those you buy it people and it's made already. People love those. That's the easiest sandwich to make. It's not even, it's what I'm saying. What? What's, that's how lazy, how artificial is it? That's how lazy the world is. How artificial is it?
Starting point is 00:05:15 Do you remember, you guys remember Goobers? There it was a mix. Yeah, it was a mix of peanut butter, and then it was like jelly, like in the same can. It looked, you know what it looked like? It was like stripes. Yes, you know what it was like? There was like stripes. Yes. You know what it looked like?
Starting point is 00:05:27 It's goober. It looked like, what's that toothpaste with stripes? Oh yeah. Uh uh uh uh uh. Aqua fresh. It's like Aqua fresh but it's in a jar and it's peanut butter. My girl's in Aqua. What is what do you what do peanut butter?
Starting point is 00:05:37 What I mean what's that what is the toothpaste relationship you guys have with your ladies? What do you mean? What do they use and what do you use? Oh we both use the same. We both use the the the tom's fucking You know, he's a tom. Yeah, big and so to and Crest man, so I was a crack school. I was a Crest cat my entire so use your wife used Crest to she's it to so Katrina I don't share to paste. Oh really? Yeah, not because like we wouldn't share she does I don't like her sicky
Starting point is 00:05:59 She's grew up on aqua fresh and I do not like aqua fresh It's like way overpowering like flavor minty shit in your mouth, I don't like that. I'm a Tom's, Tom's guy. So wherever we go, we have Tom's and we have aquafresh. She like, and her tube like makes a mess and she used to blame it on me all the time. Like, you make it up and you make the tube a mess,
Starting point is 00:06:20 then it does, I'm like, that's not me, it's your stupid aquafresh. Like look at my Tom's tube, look how smooth and how nice it looks. When I was a kid, all I wanted was aquafresh. And I never got it, my mom never bought it, because I think it's expensive. But I always wanted it because, like 25 cents more. That's such a sad story.
Starting point is 00:06:37 That is such a sad story. You know that reminds me of my story. I brushed my teeth with a bristle made of horse hairs. Okay, so that reminds me of something. I feel like you'd have a gold toothbrush. How many things do you guys have as adults? Like, give me an example, something that I do that's a little absurd that I know stems from childhood,
Starting point is 00:06:55 like that right there, right? So like, maybe your mom wouldn't spend 25 more sense on a brand you want, so you overdo it with that brand. You have like 10 of them in your house. So I do this with air conditioning because we grew up poor. And we can never run the AC. So people are crazy with that shit.
Starting point is 00:07:09 Oh, my dad would like literally as kids, he would come in and we get screamed at dude like, who touched the dermis dad? I said it at 72.5. It's at 71.5. I know when you kids did it, you're all grounded. You know what I'm saying? That was like, that was crazy. This is $15 more.
Starting point is 00:07:25 And I'm in my room sweating, my deck off, dude. Like literally. So as an adult. Is that why you like it so fucking cold? That's so you wonder why that is, that stems from childhood. So I'll never forget the very first condo. I was 17 years old when I moved out in my first apartment.
Starting point is 00:07:39 And it was awesome because it was an apartment. So getting it cold was easy. We kept that thing at like 49 degrees. You would come in in the middle, you know, you'd have to refer to it. 105 outside, walk in my condo and see your breath. Like that's how I kept it that way all the time. And it was like, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:07:53 I paid probably in that little condo back then, back in the early 2000s, I think I was paying maybe 90 to $100 a month in air condition. I was like, fuck that, run that shit, 24-7. Nobody that we would be gone for two days doesn't matter, it should stay cold. Like, yeah. And I know that, like I know someone's like,
Starting point is 00:08:11 that's so wasteful and that's real. But you know what, it comes from me as a kid and my dad, fucking with me with the AC. So that's like one of my things. You guys have something like that, like. I don't have really anything like that because as much as I like to aquafel or I wanted aquafession Now I know all the bullshit that's in them. So I won't use it
Starting point is 00:08:28 But if I didn't I probably would I see what you're saying. I probably would buy Aquafession toothpaste like crazy. Well, dude. It's not toothpaste. It's tooth gel Yeah, I think it's if along those lines it was like the hand me down stuff for me like I would get I would ask for a snowboard or something like that for Christmas and I would end up getting this like, the like, the brother. Your brother's, your brother's, your brother's, your brother's wrapped for Christmas.
Starting point is 00:08:53 Yeah, it's either that, seriously though. I told you guys, one time my, like my parents gave me, like I wanted like a camera, they gave me like, like the old camera that like you can only see green, you know, the old camera that can only see green. You know? Like it was fucked up. Like you could only see green out of it. And they never got it fixed.
Starting point is 00:09:10 And so they wrapped it up and gave it to me. It was used? Yeah. They wrapped it up a used gift. Yeah. Yeah. And the snowboard too. It was faded away.
Starting point is 00:09:20 It used to be red. So now I was pink and purple. And with some shitty like, bright green color. Did you ever get a gift as a kid where you remember kind of throw it a tantrum or being a little bitch about it? Like that, you got it, you got it, you got it.
Starting point is 00:09:31 I was pissed. I was ungrateful, do you ever remember being ungrateful for a gift? I don't remember how old I was. When did this, the NES system first come out? The first Nintendo. Very first Nintendo? Yeah, 1881,
Starting point is 00:09:43 17, not even that I think it was eighty nine no i don't know i like justins eighty seven i would guess eighty five you know good news is you look it up right now because i doggies to do this for us yeah don't really doesn't know how to do that yet okay email nineteen five you're right nineteen five
Starting point is 00:10:02 so night so this must have been this was later so i think this must have been this was later So I think this because the NES dominated you see how I was right He just graced right over that right and then we're gonna get to others right again on a Google search right there We would have made a whole episode around Just grace right no Adam Adam was right. So I was I think you I'll give that one to you moving on So save that yeah, so When it right or because when it came out it, it was like the shit for like five years.
Starting point is 00:10:29 There was nobody. What else do you have Atari? Yeah, there was nothing. So I must have been like nine, which is later on. So it's probably 1987 or something like that. So I turned nine and for my birthday, my parents got me like clothes or something like that and I was like fucking destroyed,
Starting point is 00:10:45 cause I wanted an Nintendo. My parents are like, no, it's too expensive. Cause it cost back then, it was like $150 back in like 1987, which is a lot of money to spend on your kid back. And nowadays people spend thousands of dollars on their kids for gifts. When I was a kid, if my parents spend over $50,
Starting point is 00:11:02 I was like, oh my God, I hope we can afford the mortgage. Like that's how big of a deal I thought it was, right? So I cried. I threw a fucking, I didn't throw a tantrum because I wasn't that kind of a kid. But I definitely cried quite a lot. Oh, I cried. There was the time.
Starting point is 00:11:15 My dad took me, I will never forget. He saw me kind of turn around and whatever and then cry and then they came and probe me. Like, what's the matter? Tell me what's wrong. And then I, I don't want to tell them because I don't want to be ungrateful. And they had to like pull it out of me. And I'm like, I really wanted an Nintendo. And then my, my mom's like,
Starting point is 00:11:31 what we told you, it's too much money. It's like, I know I just thought you guys were going to get it for me, but you didn't. I'm like, it's okay. I felt really bad for crying, right? So my dad, like, I hear him grab his keys and he goes, let's go. I'm like, what? And he goes, we're going to go get you an Nintendo. And I was like, yeah, he drove me, we're gonna go get you an Nintendo. And I was like, yeah. Yeah. He drove me that second to the Toys of the R Us.
Starting point is 00:11:49 Oh, really? And bought me a fucking Nintendo. That's pretty cool. And I was like, whoa. And then I realized like, why haven't I cried for more stuff? I can't believe I'll put, maybe that's why I was so powerful. So my grandma was the one who got the nice gifts, right? So every Christmas, it was grandma's gift
Starting point is 00:12:06 that we all were excited to open up because she spoiled all of us kids, right? My parents didn't quite have the funds to do that type of stuff. So if I ever got an Nintendo, a Game Boy, or anything like that, well, this was, I was really young here. So I'm like fourth grade. And I remember my buddy got one of those gas powered
Starting point is 00:12:24 remote control cars that, you know, they'll do like 60 miles an hour, like they're badass, right? It's like a $300 or $500 remote control car. So I put on my wish list, like I wanted a remote control car. And I remember the box. I remember the box. They were so awesome. My grandma and I was certain she got it.
Starting point is 00:12:42 And so I opened it and she saved it for last. Oh, it's this you know, they always say the big-ass right behind the tree You know get in a shape just like and I open it up and it's a remote control car But it's the one where the string is still attached to the car. Oh, it's like a 20-dump Oh, it's shit Dude, I was such a little where you Where the way you turn is you back up and on out of the turns. Yeah, I know, dude. I was such a little sh- I remember just who's crying.
Starting point is 00:13:11 Oh, so angry. I was angry. I remember being like angry. Why would you give me this? I'm not too, you know what I'm saying? It's like, on the side of it, it says for four to six years old, like, you know, I'm not four to six years old, and I'm like 12.
Starting point is 00:13:24 Oh my god. I'm an adult right now. That's a big dude. I got that I remember the great from the Tyco ones they were Tyco and they were fast and they they were pretty fucking quick And I had I had big Bubba, which was the truck I don't know if you guys remember this it was a truck with a Dried big Bubba and then I had I don't remember what the other one was called it was like a grave digger Turbo or something like that. It was a little doom Bucky. Okay, I don't remember what the other one was called. It was like a grave digger or something like that. It was like a little doom-bucky. It went all the fast.
Starting point is 00:13:48 Those were good times, man. I didn't ever have, yeah. You didn't have remote control cars? I had shitty ones always. And I was like, I was never like, like, because I wanted the gas-powered ones like you're talking about it. I can't believe you guys weren't like me. Okay, so if you go through this is really a sad story in a sense.
Starting point is 00:14:03 So I have a garage or a storage in my, behind my house that's full of these things. They're all childhood issues that I have. I have a fucking $700 fucking remote control car that's got all the bells and whistles. Wait, wait, you bought a car? You're living in a dull? Oh yeah, oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:18 100% and I drove the fuck out of it for like two weeks and then now it's in some plastic case like up in the attic somewhere. I have a ton of stuff like this, like, it's just the shit you want that you can get. Oh, I probably, what do you think, what do you think my ATV represents? Like that was like, as a kid,
Starting point is 00:14:33 all I ever wanted was an ATV, and I knew that our parents could not afford a $7,000 fucking ATV, so I have one, and it looks like a coffee table inside my dining room. That is good. It does, I haven't driven it in years, but I got it, dude, and it's badass a coffee table inside my dining room. It does. It doesn't. I haven't driven it in years, but I got it, dude, and it's badass, you know what I'm saying? So I have all kinds of like things like that.
Starting point is 00:14:51 Lake boards and snowboards and things that as a kid, I always wanted and my friends had and I get to use or get to play with, but I never had as an adult, I own them all. And I don't fucking use them all. So I used to, I had a problem as a kid. This is what I did. Now, I, because I would work, you know, summers with my dad or whatever, I would have some money.
Starting point is 00:15:10 And I would buy, this, here's just what I used to do. I used to buy things and never use them as a kid. And you know what I would get closed on when I was a kid? Infomercials. I would 13, 14 years old, I'd watch an infomercial. And if it was a, You bought C monkey. If, no, not the stupid stuff. It was always the dude. I'll tell years old, I'd watch an infomercial, and if it was a- You bought C-monkeys. If-no, not the stupid stuff.
Starting point is 00:15:26 It was always the dude. I'll tell you what's- I know, make consistency of C-monkeys. I'll make you some batch. I know, you want it. It was- I was- I would always fall for the Get Rich fucking programs on the infomercials.
Starting point is 00:15:40 So when I- As an adult? No! When I was 14, what? 13, 14, 15, so I owned Don LaPrise fucking get rich quick tiny ads and all these newspapers Just place your time basically the beginning of sales funnels, but done through okay, okay I got okay. I got bamboozled one time right so you remember the whole like Dotcom thing right so the dot com was like
Starting point is 00:16:04 You remember the whole like dot com thing right so the dot com was like Valuable they they how these like radio commercials and everything saying that like oh this is the new You know sort of like you could buy like a domain name and it's gonna make all this money Oh, right because like if you own it, you know, there's all these stories Yeah, there's only stories these big companies that bought back in the domains And you parked it and so they have to buy you for the domain and so Like this is further down the line everybody has a good no domain. So what do you do? Right you own like I own like I don't like three and they're all like Star Wars domains like one of them was like Star Wars member of Billy a calm. I was like, oh, that's gonna be a hit right there Like I haven't makes so much money.
Starting point is 00:16:46 Gold mine, you know what I mean? And I just kept going down this ridiculous like thought process like, dude, do you rebel, rebel alliance, you know, dot net, you know what I mean? It was like so bad, dude, I'm spent so much shitty money on this. Oh, it was like $100.
Starting point is 00:17:02 You fucking, like, I smacked myself in my face, I'm thinking about it. So I don't know how far you are in the.com secrets book, but Russell Brunson, so what inspired him to do what he does now today? Yes, I know. He used to buy and get, he used to anything that was... Don LaPrie, it's the same fucking course I bought. Which is why it spurred my memory.
Starting point is 00:17:22 Okay, as I said. Can I buy Don LaPrie's course? I bought Tom Vue, do you guys remember Tom Vue? I don't. So he was that, like, he was a little Asian dude. He'd be on a yacht with like five taller than him, blonde, like Bimbo looking women. And he'd be like, you want to be rich like me?
Starting point is 00:17:38 Tom Vue, look at me. Beautiful women. Big yacht. I make big money. I come to this country park. And he wrote that. And he had like these big gold chains. And he would talk about how he made all this money by his course.
Starting point is 00:17:51 You know, I used to eat, you know, Buckleau, now he's taking potato like he would talk like that. Like tell you all the things that he, Oh, that's great. And how he made all this money. He ended up going to jail because he was like ripping people off. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:18:03 But I bought his course, I bought Don LaPrice course, and I forgot, I think I bought another course, and I'd buy these courses, and I'd open them, and they'd be like, this is stupid, and then I'd never do them. And I have like, I gotta find them. I know I have them somewhere. Do you really, wow?
Starting point is 00:18:17 I guarantee you, I remember my parents going through all the real estate ones. When real estate was like booming and shit like that, everybody was making money off of real estate. They bought all those fucking $4,000, $5,000 courses online. Dude, people were like around the late 80s, early 90s, because we had the huge real estate boom in the 80s, right? So it was right after that,
Starting point is 00:18:37 like everybody was getting rich doing real estate. So everybody and their mother that made $10 million on real estate wrote a book and sold a online program. My parents must have bought three or four of those for sure. I remember them all going through it and being like, what do you guys know? It's definitely, this is how you know a market is about to drop is when all of a sudden you see all these courses on how to make money in that market. That's when you know it should. No, I, okay, so this is my, with this house. I 100% agree with that. And it's, you know, timing is everything in business.
Starting point is 00:19:09 This is why I kind of, when people ask me now about the cannabis industry, I think it's too late. I think you're, yeah. The big players now. Yeah, and everybody thinks like, no, yes, and I have a friend like, yeah, okay, well cool,
Starting point is 00:19:21 there's still always exceptions to rule and absolutely there's still money to be made. It's way harder now. But it's way harder now. And it's, and the big, okay, well cool. There's still always exceptions to rule and absolutely there's still money to be made. But it's way harder now and it's in the big, big companies are gonna come in and it's in those that are making decent money right now. It's short-lived. You gotta get on those things early
Starting point is 00:19:34 when they're either sketchy or nobody wants to do them and like, you gotta believe and that's where the direction is going. Not after everybody's made tens of millions of dollars and you've heard it fucking 10 times finally. yeah dude everybody's done it now and made a bunch of money. So I gotta tell you guys what I did with rebel line.net. Turn that into a porn side.
Starting point is 00:19:54 How long did you keep the domain going for like a year probably. And I was like oh my god. So I almost bought a bunch of domain names and I almost I tried to make them porn because I thought well porn is huge So I yeah, I'm not gonna mention the ones I came up with yeah, and I did own them for a second You know what I know there's a stat I would love to see the stat for how many business licenses were registered at city hall and then never Ever made a dollar that year. Oh my god I think that's where a lot of the stats come from that. What do you think they want you to buy a fucking license?
Starting point is 00:20:25 Yeah, it's because it's just, they're just making money. Oh, it's an easy $150 to $200, whatever it is now, to do that. It's just like everybody, they're like, oh, it's a great idea. It's a fucking racket. Go down, that's the first thing I do. Go get a license, like,
Starting point is 00:20:37 I'll go get my business license. Yeah, I'll get a trademark, and then I'll get a patent. No, you don't. Oh my God, it's $60,000. No, you know what, and you start an online business, you don't. Oh my God, it's $60,000. No, and you start an online business. You don't get a business license. Where do you fucking, where do you license it? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:51 It's in the ether. It's pretty funny to, I wonder how many of those actually don't like it with the percentages. I know it's pretty high that how many people just register and never do anything about it. So I gotta tell you guys what I did this weekend. What did you do? So I saw you were at, I saw you got to pick a beautiful steak
Starting point is 00:21:07 and you ate like incredible dinner. Oh yeah, no, that's cool. That's not what I was gonna talk about, but that's cool. Yeah, we ate Alexander steakhouse, which if you guys eat an Alexander steakhouse, oh my god. That's what you were at. That's what I was at for the, yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:19 So it's super expensive. This one right here downtown. The one on Cupertino, in Cupertino. Oh, we have one downtown. So super expensive. This one right here downtown. The one on Cupertino. In Cupertino. Oh, we have one downtown. So super expensive, but incredible, incredible food. The steak is just to die for appetizer. Everything's amazing. It's Kobe steak.
Starting point is 00:21:35 Great, yeah, great restaurant, all that stuff. Great, but that's not what I was gonna talk about. I found a Russian style spa. Oh my God. That's a coed clothing optional. You went? Yes I did. You and the girl went?
Starting point is 00:21:51 We did. And you guys knew. Like naked. No way. So it's in San Francisco. So I'm already like, huh? Yeah. So it's in San Francisco.
Starting point is 00:22:00 It's called Archimedes Banya. I think was the name of it. So we go there and my brother's been there. My brother's like, oh, it's fucking cool, dude. He's like, it's got, what is it? Sauna, Steam Room, Jacuzzi, Cold Dip. He's like, it's pretty awesome. So I go on their site, and their website's kind of crappy.
Starting point is 00:22:18 So I'm a little bit like, I don't know. But it talks about what they have, and they have this deck on the top where you can sunbathe, make it, and it's clothing optional, right? And there's areas where you have to put on clothes like if you go to the cafe or whatever. So I'm like, okay, so let's go check this out. So we drive up there, and it's not like a sketchy part of San Francisco, but it's not like a great part.
Starting point is 00:22:40 So I'm already a little bit like, what's going to happen here? And when you walk in, it's got an interesting feel because there's like a front desk and it's separate from everything else. And you know what it gives me the feel of when I walked in? You know when you go, remember the old school cannabis clubs when you walk in and you can tell the front desk is almost there to screen, who's coming in and who's not?
Starting point is 00:23:02 So my guard's up a little bit. Plus I'm with my girl, my girl's hot. So I'm like, okay, if I go in here and it's weird, we're gonna take off, because I'm a little bit, right? So we go in there. And you guys are here for the gang bang. Exactly. So we go in there and yeah, sure enough,
Starting point is 00:23:18 and I told my girl, do you wanna wear bathing suits? Just to be like, no, fuck it, what's going on? I'm like, right. So we go in there, we walk around, and sure enough, because we got there early, there's like five dudes in there. There's nobody else in five dudes, right? Yeah, cool.
Starting point is 00:23:33 Yeah, so it's all guys, and they're just kind of walk around naked, and nobody's really, and I'm kind of on guard. I'm already thinking like, what are they, are they staring at my girl? Like what's going on? I'm not naked. But no, everybody was cool, and as we hung out there 40 minutes later or so,
Starting point is 00:23:47 then women started popping it up and coming in. And it's legit, a fucking spa. That's, that's okay. So there's no, there was no weirdness, at least when I went. Did you before you, because you knew you're gonna do this. Did you take care of your business? What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:24:01 Did you like line your shit up? Line up myself? Yeah. Or you just out there like fucking out of control. Yeah, were you weren't even lined up? I so I keep myself What do you go with relatively lined up the triangle relatively lined up? Yeah, like I'm not I'm not Fuck does that mean I don't just like I don't go I don't use like a number one and shave the fuck
Starting point is 00:24:19 I know but you like a haircut like you I mean you don't shave your head bald But I mean you get a haircut. Did you get a haircut before you went there? Kind of because it's always like, kind of. Oh, I'm like, I can do it anyway. You're like a month before. I think like last week I did. Yeah, I mean, I thought you were called a little hedging. Okay. So good. But because I feel like if I'm going to go do that, I'm going to put my business out there all over the place. I come to get a haircut. Oh, bro, it's so it's a weird experience. I'm going to line my shit up before I go out there. Because first, first of all, it's great to trail. First of all, it's extremely freeing
Starting point is 00:24:46 to just walk around naked around people. I don't know what it is about that, but it's just pretty cool. But number two, within a short period of time, within 30 minutes, you realize how not big of a deal it is. Like I first, you're like, oh my God dude, fucking fat girls, I just saw that girl's vagina. She's got her titties out, the dude's dick's hanging out.
Starting point is 00:25:03 But about 30 minutes later, it's not really a big fucking deal. Like everybody's just whatever fat people, skinny people, so young people, is it like this big like steam room or like what it looks like? So you walk in and then you go to your locker area, you change, come in, they give you a robe and they give you a towel. The area is that require clothing, you need to wear your robe, everything else you can just be, fuck ass naked. You need to wear your robe, everything else, you can just be, fuck ass naked, you need to sit on towels all the time, right?
Starting point is 00:25:27 They don't want you sitting, you know, balls on stuff. You don't want things crawling. Exactly, so you use the towel, sit down, but, so when you walk in, there's like a sauna, there's two saunas, one has different levels, so you can climb up to the top level, and it's hot as fuck, and that one, where the hottest sauna's ever been in. Climb up, like you're going up ladders, naked? No, so it's like, you can climb up to the top level and it's hottest. Fuck. And that one where the hottest son has ever been in.
Starting point is 00:25:45 Climb up like you're going to bladders, naked. No. So, so it's like, like you can sit there's benches at the bottom. And then there's another level. Okay. And then at the top, there's a top level. And the top is the hottest. There's a cold dip. So it's just a, it's not nearly as nice as the place up in. Right. No.
Starting point is 00:26:01 Refuge is like super nice. This looks like it's been around for a little while. It's not bad, No, refuge is super nice. This looks like it's been around for a little while. It's not bad, but it's not super nice. It's more of a run of the mill kind of spot. Now knowing all that and that you've experienced, because I'm a huge fan of refuge. It's like Katrina nice spot for sure, because I haven't found anywhere that I like better. Do you would you go back to this place? Or is it just like an experience you did? Here's why I would go back. Oh, you were. No, it's not because I'm like, oh my God,
Starting point is 00:26:27 like refuge is way better. I don't care if I'm, you know, I'd rather go to refuge in where I'm being sued. Right, because the atmosphere. Be just naked to be naked. But, but the reason why I would go back to this other place is the naked, the naked experience. Really, I'm telling you, do you something,
Starting point is 00:26:40 something about walking around naked with other random people. So I've been. And nobody tripping. I've been to places like this, but at my experience, you wanna go Justin? Other than Vegas. How do you, man?
Starting point is 00:26:50 So I've been to a few topless and nude pools and the only places that I've, and spas like this, where the only place that I feel like there's been good looking people that are actually naked is in Vegas. Otherwise, it's like, so what do you mean? So this was a full nude pool party?
Starting point is 00:27:07 Yeah, they have those in Vegas. I thought it was just topless. No, they have topless ones too. So you went to a full nude one? So I've been to full nude beaches, I've been to pools, I've been, yeah, and every time I've been to one of these, they're always, nobody you really want to look at. That's right, that's been my experience.
Starting point is 00:27:25 Yeah, all the beaches. And of course you're not there. I know someone's like, well, you're not there for that. You know, you're not there to be looking at other people and make it and I get it. It's supposed to be freeing it and. I guarantee you people are there for that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:36 There's some people that are there. Well, yeah, right? And I don't know. It's like it's still scenery. So the people that were there were kind of average, but there were a lot of younger people. Like I saw quite a few people in their 20s and 30s. Oh wow.
Starting point is 00:27:50 And there were a couple people that looked like they work out. So that, now we definitely stood out because we're like the fitness, whatever. But it also wasn't super busy because we went right when they opened, which was like, it was 10 a.m. on a, was a Saturday or something like that that we went. So food there, you said there's a cafe there.
Starting point is 00:28:04 We didn't eat anything there. So here's what we did We went in we did this We did the saunas we did the steams we did the cold dip a bunch of times Then we went up to the very top and then we we sunbathe naked you did a cold dip completely naked. Yeah, I did Wow, did your shit like you know what? Um, I don't know if it did or not. I did the penis pump hell. Yeah, that's right. No, I don't think it. He countered that. He's like, I'm gonna pump this shit before I go out there. No, you know what? My fear would be going into one of these things.
Starting point is 00:28:34 So you think to yourself initially as a man, you're like, oh man, what if I get shrinkage because I'm in the water? No, reality is, you know what you really probably fears? What if you get a boner? What if you get an erection? What if you see a attractive woman? Well, the 17 year old version of me would definitely be afraid of that. Well, I mean, even think about this, you're with your girl, she's naked,
Starting point is 00:28:54 so you get to see her naked, then she's comfortable being naked around strangers and they're all stuff that might cause something to happen. Were you worried about that? Was that worried about it? For a split second, I was like, what if that happens, then what? Everybody knows I'm the perfect. When you worried about that? Was that worried about it? For a split second, I was like, what if that happens? Then what?
Starting point is 00:29:06 Everybody knows I'm the perfect. When did you realize that went away? That that wasn't gonna happen? I just was comfortable. You know, because at first you're kind of awkward, but then you're like, not a big deal. You know what my other fear was? My other fear was running into someone I knew.
Starting point is 00:29:19 Because being naked around strangers is not a problem. If I walked in there, and I'm nude and all of a sudden I see like, you know, fucking family member or friend or something. Right, right. I don't need to be like, oh, that's what that was. That was a strip club. I saw some guy and he was like, oh, really? Yeah, that was awkward. That is gotta be awkward. It's very awkward. See, I don't know if I could go do that with you because I we sit here all day along and look at each other and talk to each other on the radio. I don't think we could fuck. I don't think I could see you hang out with you naked.
Starting point is 00:29:42 That's the thing. Yeah. I wouldn't be able to go with people I know yeah, you know I mean because I like to keep that a mystery. Yeah, that would be Because what's gonna happen here's what happened at the end of that trip We're someone's gonna have bragging rights and I'd rather keep it a mystery Cuz it's one thing to be with your buddy your buddy be like I got a bigger dick than you It's another thing for them. I know they have a bigger dick than you say that. I see. Because then you're like, fuck man.
Starting point is 00:30:07 You're right. You're right. You're keeping cars to yourself. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. All right. Ready for the bird?
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Starting point is 00:30:35 That's O-R-G-A-N-I-F-I-D.com. And use a coupon code MindPump for 20% off at checkout. I think we should let the audience know we have a guest producer here today. Yeah. Taylor. Back up producer. Balance with that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:53 Well, I want to give a shout out to Doug. Doug actually went to up to Seattle. His father passed away, so we went up there for the service and everything. So love goes out to Doug and his family. Yep. And now we got to know. And a big thank you. I know that we've had quite a few people in the form that reached
Starting point is 00:31:07 out to him and sent their love. Appreciate that. You guys, you know, everyone knows that this place doesn't run without Doug. And he is our he is our rock and having him out right now. For sure. Is tough. Taylor's subbing in though right now. No pressure. First question from Keon Keon. From Kionya Kana. You're doing wrong, Taylor? Yeah. You're doing wrong. I'm just kidding.
Starting point is 00:31:30 Kionakana. Kionakana. Kionya Kana. What are your thoughts on active recovery days versus full rest days? So great question. We usually advocate for active recovery days. However, full rest days have definitely have their place.
Starting point is 00:31:50 So real quick, I'm gonna kind of decide for between the two of them. A full rest day is when you're literally do nothing. So I worked out hard yesterday. I just ran a marathon, you know, whatever. Today I'm gonna just put my feet up, I'm gonna watch TV, or I'm gonna get a massage, or I'm just gonna literally do nothing
Starting point is 00:32:10 that has to do with fitness whatsoever. The benefit of that, or the way you would use those, is when you have seriously overreached, when you've really pushed yourself to a point where you need to do nothing, mentally and physically. Yeah, where that's gonna benefit you more than anything to do nothing. And rarely do I advocate for full rest days,
Starting point is 00:32:31 but I do especially after competitions. Like, if there's like a, like Melissa just competed, right? And her bikini competition, which shout out to Hershket second in the open, great job. For something like that, I'd be like, okay, don't exercise at all for a couple of days, at least, or if you just did a marathon, or you just did something super good.
Starting point is 00:32:51 I used to do that Sundays, I mean, I mean, there's no way you're gonna get me up and about after all that damage from the game. So, active recovery is when you're doing something to facilitate recovery or to amplify an adaptation signal that you may have sent the day before. Now I like active recovery days for the most part because you can do a lot of stuff on an active recovery day.
Starting point is 00:33:16 So let's use Melissa as an example again. She just finished the competition. She could do a full rest day and that would be beneficial. An active recovery day might help her too, but it would be super low intensity stretching, you know, stretching could be that. That could be an active recovery day. Yeah, I want to move away from her as an example,
Starting point is 00:33:33 because I think she's a bad example for this because she doesn't really work out three days going into that and most of the stress that she's going through is nutritionally and it's really four or five days before that. So a better example is like what you guys are saying. Yeah, marathon, acrossfit competition, a kettlebell competition, a football, OCR race, like something where you know you've pushed the boundaries, you know, beyond a daily workout.
Starting point is 00:33:59 And it's, I think either a big competition like that or the compounding effect of multiple workouts of you overdoing it each time. Like for example, if you beast mode it on Monday, Tuesday beast mode it again, Wednesday beast mode, you have these compounding days of hammering the body and you feel sore from head to toe and in your head you think you're doing such a great job because you feel sore from head to toe but in reality you're punishing the fuck out of your body think you're doing such a great job because you feel sore from it at all, but in reality, you're punishing the fuck out of your body and you're really not helping accelerate your results. So someone like that I might give an entire day off, but to be honest, I rarely ever, and
Starting point is 00:34:34 I say rarely because I still do, but it's rare that I recommend to somebody a complete full day of don't do anything on your back. Yeah, right? Because just promoting movement, I think, is ideal, even for someone who's really, really sore because you are, you're gonna get the blood flowing, even though you're not doing a traditional, foundational day of working out or training,
Starting point is 00:34:57 getting down and doing some mobility work and some stretching or yoga, I mean, that would be considered active recovery. And I would pretty much recommend that to anyone and everyone because I feel like not enough people, it's really who we're talking to, right? Am I training to the seven day a week person who's addicted to lifting every single day
Starting point is 00:35:18 and they cross fit or do something super high intensity? Or am I talking to average Jaina Joe, which is the other 80% of the population. If I'm talking to average Jaina Joe, I is the other 80% of the population. If I'm talking to average Jaina Joe, I'm encouraging them to be in the gym every single day. And if you're not doing a foundational workout like for maps or you're whatever program you're following, then I'm telling you to do some sort of active recovery,
Starting point is 00:35:36 whether it's mobility focused, correctional focused, meditative focused, like I'm telling you to try and create some sort of, you know, movement that's beneficial to your body every single day. I think that's ideal. Now the only other exception to that in my opinion is the small percentage of people that are constantly flirting with over-training because they're always pushing for either competition or they love CrossFit or these types of workouts like Orange Theory that are pressing the limits of your body on a day-to-day basis. Those people I could potentially see, hey, you know, and I've done this before, I told
Starting point is 00:36:16 someone to reset for a whole week like, hey, we need to just like, you've been hammering yourself, you've been in a low calorie deficit, you've been smashing the weights like crazy. Like, let's kind of let your body reset a little bit. But for the most part, I think active recovery is when we all lean. Yeah, and you know, when it comes to full rest days, the times that I recommend that really is to help with a with the mental component more than the physical.
Starting point is 00:36:40 Right. You know, if it's, if someone's super burnt out and super negative about their training or they're just feeling just mentally really fatigued, that's when I'll tell someone, hey, you know what, take the day off, don't do anything. Like just do something you enjoy, go watch a movie or something like that.
Starting point is 00:37:01 From a physical component because active recovery days are so moldable and I can individualize them so much, I can work around pretty much anything. And here's what you want to consider with an active recovery day. They will speed up recovery. It's not adding to even if you get injured, you find that in therapy. They still want to be able to mobilize like joints that have the capacity to mobilize because it, you know, it gets the proper circulation, it gets, you know, the healing process actually speeds up.
Starting point is 00:37:30 A study was just done on that. They actually just compared where somebody has an injury and the joint or the area was immobilized and left to rest versus active recovery or appropriate movement. And the movement probably way faster. Healed the body. Healed the body works so much better when you move it than when you don't move it. I give this example a time. If you took two twins, all factors being identical
Starting point is 00:38:00 and you just beat their shit at our legs with a super intense hard workout and you took one and you told one guy, one of them, hey, listen, sit down, don't do anything, stay on the couch for the next seven days, and then we're gonna test you again. And you told the other guy, what we're gonna do is trigger sessions and stretching,
Starting point is 00:38:18 and maybe a focus session here or there, and then we'll test you in seven days. The person that was moving appropriately is gonna have more strength and more muscle. They're gonna improve much faster than the person just're there, and then we'll test you in seven days. The person that was moving appropriately is gonna have more strength and more muscle. They're gonna improve much faster than the person just sitting there, because regardless of what stage you are in your training and what condition your body is in,
Starting point is 00:38:36 except for extreme situations, but for the most part, regardless of where it's at, doing nothing makes your body adapt in a way that's detrimental. Well, even then, like to just breathing, and like you said, meditation, these types of things that get you more in a parasympathetic state is so crucial, I mean, in the recovery process, so maybe do that subconsciously by just kind of relaxing and trying to relax, like by watching TV and sitting down. But, I mean, you can do that just from focusing on your breathing and being more mindful, moving with that.
Starting point is 00:39:10 So, there's a lot of different things you can do on these. Well, our recovery days. All of our programs, if you don't own our programs, or maybe you don't own all of them, this is how maps is created. Like, the idea and the theory behind this of you have these foundational days that you train, regardless of what program you're in,
Starting point is 00:39:30 we have our staple workouts and then all the days that are not your staple workouts are these either mobility or their focus or their trigger sessions, which is feeding right into this question as far as active recovery is, we absolutely promote active recovery over full rest days. I tell you what, it's a game changer. It's not a small thing. It is literally a game changer. If you take your workout, I don't care what workout you're doing. I don't care if you're doing a body parts
Starting point is 00:39:58 split, if you're doing maps, if you're doing whatever. I don't care. Take your whatever workout you're doing. And on your off days, utilize a trigger session concept. So what a trigger session is, which is in Maps and Obolic, is where you do four or five movements, preferably with bands, but you can do them with body weight or weights, very low intensity for four or five body parts. Should take you maybe a grand total of 10 minutes, squeeze the muscle, stretch the muscle, get a little bit of a pump,
Starting point is 00:40:28 feel a little bit of a burn, you're not looking for any type of intensity, and do that several times on that during that day. So if it's an off day, let's say I don't work out on Tuesday, I'm doing three trigger sessions that day. Do them consistently, and it is a game changer. You'll notice as the day progresses, you'll get a better pump in the muscles. As the day progresses, you'll notice your muscles recovering more effectively.
Starting point is 00:40:52 Then when you go back to your regular workout, you're going to notice faster results. It's that big of a game changer. This is why I talk about because a lot of people will do map, for example, maps in a ball like since that's our foundational program. A lot of people will do map, for example, maps in a ball, since that's our foundational program. A lot of people will do that and they'll skip out on the trigger sessions. And they're gonna get great results. The programming is great, it's all phased out,
Starting point is 00:41:12 it's got great workouts for the foundational workouts. Everything's great, you're gonna get great results. And then I'll get people who've done it two or three times through, and then they'll say, but now I finally did the trigger sessions consistently, totally different. Game changer. So, I can't stress that enough.
Starting point is 00:41:30 If you're especially if you're following a maps program, do not skimp out on those active recovery type days, whether it's trigger sessions, focus sessions or mobility sessions, they are total game changers. If you're not doing a maps program, rather than doing a complete rest day, go to the gym or do it at home, go super easy, super light, and do active recovery on target muscles and watch what happens.
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Starting point is 00:42:25 And the prices are anywhere between 25 to 50% lower than when you'll find a retail store. What's the longest and what's the fastest something has come to you now as far as being shipped over? Like, I know what they say one, two days is what it's like. I get it in 24 hours. Oh, really? I get it in 24 hours. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:43 24 to 48 hours every single time. Wow. Yeah, it's very, very quick. And then here's the other thing that we haven't talked about much on the show that I really like. It's like, you know, I call it like you know, conscious shopping is that, you know, when you buy a membership with them, because you pay a one-time membership fee, which by the way, if you use the Mind Pump code, you get a lot of, you basically get it for free. But before I get into that, if you pay for a membership fee, they will donate a membership to a low-income family. Because the founder of Thrive Market Gunner, he grew up very poor, and he couldn't eat healthy because, you know, organic
Starting point is 00:43:17 healthy foods are more expensive. And so what they do at Thrive Market is for every membership that they have, where someone pays for the membership, they'll give a free one to a family in need. So now you've got a low income family, single parent household, whatever that now can shop at Thrive Market, save money and get organic non-GMO stuff delivered to them. So it's fucking awesome. But we waited a really long time to really partner up with some companies that we were excited about. And just real, my pump was too small a year ago for a huge company like Thrive to come along and even offer to pay us anything.
Starting point is 00:43:55 And we are now in a position to where we have that opportunity. And I know I saw somebody on the forum talking about my pump back in the days before we had advertising. It's like, man, I wish everybody understood what it took to run a business that is dislodged and has this many people that we're contracting and working with. It's not cheap to be able to put out all the content that we do for free all the time. This is one of the ways that helps fund that is be able to take sponsorships on. But one of the things that we all agreed on is we were going to run broken tight until we found people that we actually want to work with. Yeah, that legit message.
Starting point is 00:44:33 Yeah, exactly. It's not just it's not just an awesome product. It's not just fucking rad that you save more money shopping through them and they give you organically, but the message that they have and what they're doing 100% stamp. No, they didn't pay us money. This is the type of company that I would affiliate myself. They're about, they screen the companies that they carry for, you know, what they call fair, you know, laborer. They want to make sure that everything is, you know, is environmentally, environmentally friendly. They donate the memberships to families in need.
Starting point is 00:45:06 It is one of the first companies that I can see that's really hitting all of these things and providing you with products at lower prices, which is, to me, it's crazy. It's like, how do you do both? Well, their model just fucking works. We do is go to thrivemarket.com forward slash mind pump and you'll get 30 days for free. You'll get $20 off your first three orders of $49 or more and you'll get free shipping. So basically you get a free membership and you get access to all these. Right. And plus you know when you sign up for a membership that somebody in need is getting
Starting point is 00:45:38 hooked up with and also that's it. That's it. That's it right there. Next question Taylor. Yeah, extension. Next question. Next question. Client of feet, axe handle 56 oh six, Ollie lifting shoes. Why are they so popular? Is everyone just lying to themselves about their ankle mobility? Pretty much. Excellent. You know what? So an observation. I have, I have a couple opinions on that because I remember
Starting point is 00:46:06 the first time that you introduced me to lifting shoes. And what, why I liked them so much, and I still occasionally used them, was it allowed me to, uh, drop into a squat, um, deeper than I'd ever been before and actually feel really comfortable and stable. Now, of course I know now that the main reason why I was not able to do that was the lack of my ankle mobility, but it did help me in that direction. So I think the mistake that a lot of people are making with all-elifting shoes is lifting all the time with all-elifting shoes and not
Starting point is 00:46:48 using it as a a stepping stone to getting better ankle mobility. I mean if you and mind you too, there's there's different people I'm communicating this to if I'm talking to somebody who competes and and they power lift or Olympic lift repeats and they power lift or Olympic lift, then absolutely because you can use that in a competition. You're competing with them, you got to learn that. Right. So there's an advantage to doing that.
Starting point is 00:47:12 It's just like how we've talked about the weightlifting belt. If you're in a competition that allows you to use this tool, it's exactly the same. Right. It's a tool. Now, for the average lifters, which is what's, there's this craze now, and this is what always happens, right? The professional power lifters and all the lifters and Olympic lifters, right?
Starting point is 00:47:31 The guys that go the Olympics for power lifting and shit. These guys are what everybody looks up to. We wanna be like them so we dress like them, right? So we start wearing all the gear and the stuff that they're wearing. It's, you're seeing like the spandex onesies and all that. Have you seen that? Like a lot of guys will just like, I'm going to squat today.
Starting point is 00:47:49 They have to like wear this like spandex onesie. Yeah, right. Like you do, and you don't lift that much. And it's, it's, it's not, it's, it's not much different than, you know, going out and gearing yourself up the same way all the NFL players do before they go on the field just to go play some flag football with your buddies on the weekend. You know what I'm saying? It's just a little overkill for the average gym.
Starting point is 00:48:13 You want the uniform, right? And I think that's what a lot of it, like the perception of it is like, well, all these people are using it. So they must be getting some kind of performance enhancement with this. Like it's a cool thing, it's a culture thing. So yeah, I can see like just a lot of people wanting to be cool and where I'm not really realizing, you know, what it's doing for their ankles and what they're actually, you know, getting the benefit wise, but also it's crutching, you know, what ankle mobility they did. So into it. And I remember before they became so popular,
Starting point is 00:48:45 we used to see this in the gym a lot. I think you can see old videos of Arnold where they, you know, they'd be barefooted in the gym, but then they would put their heels up, where they'd step on plates, right? Yeah, like a wooden plate or like a wooden plate. Yeah, we used to have actually like a two by four or something like that where we would just put our heels on it
Starting point is 00:49:01 and we would teach depth of squat with that. That was like a teaching tool. And so if you're just a normal gym goer and you're trying to put this together, like so what the all-elifting shoes does because it's got an elevated hill. It's the same thing if you were to stand on plates or put a two by four, like Justin's saying,
Starting point is 00:49:17 underneath your heels, it doesn't require the knee now to have to travel way over the toes because your heels are elevated. So if you understand biomechanics, what's going on is you're now allowing the... It's just limits dorsiflexion. Right. Because now when I'm all the way down in a super deep squat,
Starting point is 00:49:35 it's like if I was at 90 degrees as far as the angle of my shin to my foot, that angle is about the same now that I have the heel elevated. So it allows you to get into a deeper squat. But what we should really do is address the lack of ankle mobility. You have and work towards being able to barefoot squat if we can. And so now like the what I still keep my shoes, my shoes are in my bag. They travel with me wherever I go.
Starting point is 00:50:00 And if it's a day that I'm going to challenging myself, PR-wise, which is rare, or I just wanna see, like, it's been a while since I've put that much weight on my back, I'm gonna use it, like, as a precaution. Like, okay, I wanna, I haven't put over 400 pounds on my back in a while. I don't want my ankles to be the limiting factor that makes me bail on this weight.
Starting point is 00:50:20 So I might put my shoes on for that one occasion, and then I'll be in barefoot or in flat shoes the rest of the time. I feel like they should be used more like training wheels. Like you said, like, I mean, it's something that, you know, you can get somebody to fit, like feel what it feels like to sit comfortably in a squat. Like, that's great. But, or just like high level competition because they allow it. So that's one factor. One part of your body, the joint that you don't have to really train to succumb this
Starting point is 00:50:53 intensive force, this a lot of load on your back that's driving through your body. So with the weight belt and everything, it just keeps you a little bit more secure there. So you can focus more on just the raw strength that's gonna take to propel you back there. You're just taking out the weakest links. That's what all these tools are. Is they're identifying your weakest links using an outside crutch to support this weakest link?
Starting point is 00:51:20 Like wrist straps or a belt, no different. You know why I like squat shoes? I'll tell you why I like squat shoes. When I debate someone on the importance of foot control, ankle control and foot strength, and when people say to me, it doesn't make that big of a deal, I say put on some squat shoes and see how you feel.
Starting point is 00:51:38 And all of a sudden they're like, whoa, I could squat so much better. And it's like, okay, that's because we've artificially giving you what you should be able to have Without those things, right. That's the thing. That's the one thing that I like about squat shoes is they can help forward that particular conversation, but if if you have that weakest link in real life If I'm walking around in real life if I'm doing things in real life and I don't have squat shoes in a belt on and wrist wraps and I go test myself, if I'm moving something that's heavier
Starting point is 00:52:09 or whatever, I'm gonna hurt myself. I'm gonna hurt myself. You're only gonna be able to do it. I won't be able to do it and because my body, you know, it's gonna go attempt to do this position or this move and I don't have this support and I'm gonna end up injuring my back or my ankles or whatever. For the average lifter, I mean, I think it's a waste of money.
Starting point is 00:52:31 I think if you're really into working out, it's fun to play with and you're super into working out, then that's great. If you compete with them, of course. Use them. Otherwise, there's really no, do you guys see any? It's cool down. To me, it's like the bell.
Starting point is 00:52:44 The bell and the shoes to me are really, really closely similar to uniform. It is, and it's become that, it's a trendy thing to do, especially with the belt right now. You see all the men's physique competitors walking around with the belt on while they're doing cable exercises and stuff, which is absolutely ridiculous. It's turned into kind of a fashion statement, right? So all these shoes have now turned into a fashion statement. They've, you know, Nike's done the Metcons
Starting point is 00:53:11 and you've got all the Reebok CrossFit shoes. So it's become, it's taken something that is a useful tool for powerlifting or Olympic lifting. And they've made it fashionable. So we can think, you know, Nike, Reebok, companies like this, the science behind it is no different than what Arnold was doing back in the days when he put his heels on a two by four. So the understanding of biomechanics has been around forever and we understand why that makes it easier for
Starting point is 00:53:42 you to get down to a squat. But at the end of the day, you're crushing yourself. And the same thing goes for the belt. The belt, we wanna be able to internally be able to flex and squeeze our core to support our spine. We don't wanna have to use an external tool to do that. But if you are in a competition where they allow those tools and those tools do give you a slight edge, then it makes total sense why you would
Starting point is 00:54:05 do that. It's like, listen, you're competing, you're trying to, and what's happened because we've got, this last like five or 10 years, we've become very PR hungry. Like, as an early trainer or 15 years ago, plus, I never even heard of, I didn't even know what a PR. I know that's crossed for this. Like, PPR didn't even exist. It was, no one really talked about that.
Starting point is 00:54:25 It's become such a crave now to be chasing this. And I get it, like, you know, if we're, if we're hitting PRs, we're getting stronger and more than likely we're building muscle. And so it's a great measure of that. But I think it's become so important and so ingrained into our fitness culture now that it's doing more harm than it is good. And I see more. It's a big problem.
Starting point is 00:54:46 It's causing injury, it's causing people to use all these tools just to reach PRs. When it's like really, I mean, if you're not functionally strong. It's just one of those things. It's like, if you never used the weight belt before and you're deadlift in your, the most of your videos is four and a pounds. And then you put one on, you learn how to use it.
Starting point is 00:55:02 Now you did four, 15 or four, 20. You get to say my PR went up by 20. You're reinforcing compensatory patterns. Like you're just perpetuating this problem that you have. So it's like, cool, you know, you're compensating. Like cool story. Show me what you can do without that shit. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:55:21 And I guess that's where it's, you know, to each their own and it's different. It just depends on, you know, what guess that's where it's you know to each their own and it's different. It just depends on You know what that person's goals are maybe they are getting going to be competing one day And so they want to get good at using those tools But I think people should know if you're you're an average gym go or your goal should definitely Not be to wear a belt to not wear shoes to not have to have to wear wrist wraps or any of those things But it doesn't mean to that like you you can't intermittently use them within your routine to not wear shoes, to not have to wear wrist wraps or any of those things.
Starting point is 00:55:45 But it doesn't mean too that you can't intermittently use them within your routine because I understand that too. You'll see me pull my shoes out every once in a while, you'll see me pull out wrist wraps every once in a while. But you better believe that I'm getting my training in to make sure that I'm not losing mobility in my ankles. It's more for me as a day that I'm going to go hit a PR. And it's exactly for that reason.
Starting point is 00:56:06 It's like, I know I can probably squeeze out an extra 15, 20 pounds if I've got my belt and I've got my shoes on for sure. And that's purely an ego-driven thing. It's not, I'm not going to build any more muscle that one day. It's so I could literally say, hey, I squatted 400 some pounds today. Hey, I deadlifted X amount of pounds today. So I think being aware of that is the step, right? That's the main thing is like, if you're aware of that's how you're using it,
Starting point is 00:56:32 it's okay. Don't get caught up in doing it because everybody else is doing it. And this is something I should do on a regular basis. All right. Next question comes from focus fitness for life. What are your thoughts on sexual fitness, such as through Jayama or Kim? I'm mommy. I'm mommy.
Starting point is 00:56:52 So I look those people up. Thank God, because I have no idea what this is. I didn't know what they were either. So I look them up. This is sexual fitness. So these are, so these two people that they refer are. I love how you pick questions that neither one of us has. Well, no, well, the two people we don't know about
Starting point is 00:57:06 the thrusting cardio. I figured we could comment about sexual fitness because we're experts on everything. Yeah. So the two people are, they're like sexologists. These are like, ex-percephalic, I have my favorite people. So the first person, Jayama, I looked her up,
Starting point is 00:57:18 and I guess she talks a lot about the, what does she call them, the five archetypes of sexuality? You want to hear what they are? Yes, I do. Very interesting. Actually, this is very interesting. So these are the way that people are turned on, like the different types of people and how, what gets them in the mood or whatever.
Starting point is 00:57:37 So the first archetype is the energetic archetype. They're turned on by space, T's, and anticipation. Then there's the sensual one who's turned on by comfort, relaxation, and all the senses being ignited. Then there's the sexual one who's turned on by nudity and flat-out sexual intercourse. Then there's the kinky person who's turned on by the taboo
Starting point is 00:58:00 and power play, and then the shaped shifter who can be turned on by all of the above. I'll just send that down. Shifter. Yeah. Yeah, self-proclaimed. I'm turned on right now. It's kind of like, so this is like, did she write a book?
Starting point is 00:58:12 Is there a book? Yeah, I guess she wrote a book on it, but it's so fascinating, right? This is like the love languages of sex then, right? I know, so you know the way I live here. Well, let me ask you guys this. Do you guys, does one of those resonate with you more than the other?
Starting point is 00:58:25 The last one. The kinky? No, the varie. Is the shifter? Yeah, but I mean, what a mold to the energy that's there. You basically always rated rock and roll. I, how about your, how about your girls? Like, which one?
Starting point is 00:58:36 Because I know women tend to be a little more specific, or at least that's the stereotype, right? I think it, yeah, it's the one that's the comfort one, I think. Oh, yeah, we're, uh, the center one. I find out when a lot is. She has to be like, you got to control the environment and everything. Throw some, just throw some nudity in front of my girl. She's good to go.
Starting point is 00:58:49 My girl's a stash of trust. It's easy. It's easy. It's right. All you do is walk around and make you settle. I guess like all this settle stuff. You have to be like a ninja. I totally, I'm a professional now.
Starting point is 00:59:02 It's absolutely. And then the other girl. What's her name? God, what is that? What is that girl's name? Camanami. Yeah, Camanami. Let me look her up again. So she does these these exercises for her vagina. Oh, I saw her. It's the cagular. Yeah, so look, look what she's hanging. She hangs like weights onto her pussy. Oh, wow. Yeah, so she puts. We actually invited her on the show a long time ago. We did. Yeah, like two years ago.
Starting point is 00:59:28 We did. We did. We'll reach out to her. Well, so these pelvic floor muscles, Taylor's rolling his eyes right now, but I'm telling you right now, dude, this would be a great guest. I think so. Yeah. So, these pelvic floor muscles are very important.
Starting point is 00:59:40 When a punk you feel like Taylor, when she can curl more with her pussy, then you can't with your bicep. But she's dead. She's dead. She's doing pussy curls more than you can bicep curl. So this is important. Actually, this is very important to talk about because we have some female listeners who've had children. And there's nobody. Nobody talks about the pelvic floor muscles and how they become atrophy because of the childbirth process and having children and then after having kids, all of a sudden if they laugh or sneeze or run, they pee themselves.
Starting point is 01:00:15 You guys trained a lot of, like a hot dog in a hallway. Oh my god, thanks, just, yeah. You guys have had a lot of people in your class. I've actually had lots of women in their 50s plus that have had three, four plus children. And they can't run, right? And if I had, I used to, it was crazy. If I had them do jump jacks or jump boxes,
Starting point is 01:00:34 they would literally pee themselves and they would have to go to the restroom and it was a very common thing that would happen. So yeah, no, this is very, I wish I knew what I know now, though, to like, how to kind of educate them on how to take care of themselves so they don't have that issue. Because a lot of them, and I remember the first time I came across it, I was just like, Oh, shit, like, is that normal? And then another one, and then another one, then I realized, like, Oh, this is more common than I, than I realized. And I wish because
Starting point is 01:01:03 I remember when it happened to me early on, the first client that was like this was in my early 20s and I just didn't, I was just like, oh shit, she must just have an issue that I'd not familiar with. And it wasn't until I trained several clients later that it both that have all been very, very common. Yeah, been, been, had multiple children in their, in advanced age that have this condition. And it's for that exact reason. Now, what is obviously stringing a coconut from your vagina is the progression, is the progression to this and I don't recommend all women should string coconuts from their their clitoris.
Starting point is 01:01:35 It's not the clitoris actually goes in. It's the ex-land programming. They actually, so what she does is she tells women to, I think she sells a device where you put it in and then you squeeze around it. Yeah, you squeeze around it. Like beads, like a bead or what do I think. Yeah, and then she can attach weight to it to get those muscles stronger. Those are very important muscles. They're also important. Believe it or not, they do play a small role in core stabilization. So keeping those weak and strengthening your core and doing other stuff, like you're missing a small piece. So one of the easiest way to exercise it is to literally squeeze and lift. Like you're sitting there and you're just trying to squeeze, like you're
Starting point is 01:02:12 trying to stop yourself from urinating. Those are the muscles that do that to squeeze and hold to create tension there and to strengthen those. So that's what she talks a lot about. But the other woman's talking more about sexual fitness in terms of just, you know, working on that with your partner or talking about those things or, you know, your relationship with your partner and stuff like that. And what I mean, and what's fascinating about this is when we think of, you know, when we think of health, when we think of total health, we tend to separate things into categories, right? Physical health, emotional health, mental health, like, and if you, if you're sick in one of those areas, you go see a specialist for that specific
Starting point is 01:02:52 area, like I have anxiety, all were together. Not only are they all together, but it's the, it's the myth of separation. The human organism is one. It's one thing, and if one piece of it is off, then the rest of the organism tries to adapt and change to compensate for that one thing that is off, and that includes your sexual health. If you're... Think about it when you are physically healthy, right?
Starting point is 01:03:23 When you're physically healthy, normally your sexual, your sex drive is up and your sexuals are balanced. Right, that's doing, every one of your systems is benefiting from that. And when it's down, all of them are suffering. And some more than others, and we're all genetically a little different.
Starting point is 01:03:40 Like some people, their fitness health, right? Effects, their mental, spiritual, and fitness health, right, affects their mental, spiritual, and sexual health, more than others, but absolutely they're all connected and work together. And it's just a matter of how much it affects. Yeah, I just remember like Paul Czech, like we kept like he kept reiterating and their dick doesn't go up anymore, you know, and he just kept like reiterating that. And I'm just like, why is he hammering that so much? And it's just like, it's true though, like when your body's out of whack
Starting point is 01:04:07 and at a sink with all these different factors, like it will, like a lot of times, like that could affect your sexual performance and all these things are related. So why not talk about it? But we also think of sexual health as when other things are off, then your sexual health goes down.
Starting point is 01:04:26 But if you don't exercise your sexual health, it can also influence the other stuff. Absolutely. So if you're not having good sexual relations with another person or with yourself or you're repressed in any particular way in those areas, or inanimate, it can influence your physical health, your emotional health, and your mental health.
Starting point is 01:04:48 It is a part of, it is a small piece of this large pie called the human organism, and it's important to consider all of this stuff. It's very, very important, and I love that. I'm learning a lot about it now. I wish, look, I'll tell you what, when it comes to sexual health, let's go back. Let's go back to when we were kids.
Starting point is 01:05:07 Here was an area that was sorely lacking in my upbringing. We didn't talk about sex at all. And it definitely impacted my sexual health as an adult to where I had to erase a lot of stuff that I had thought. I had to kind of develop my own thoughts around it as an adult because as a kid, it was so taboo. We didn't talk about it. Nobody talked about it. So now as a parent with my kids, and I know it's an important piece of being healthy. I mean, I had this conversation with my, you know, with my son because now he's in the, you know, he's doing the sex ed. And we're going to talk about
Starting point is 01:05:40 things like masturbation and health and why it's good for you and why these things are not bad and whatever. Like it's all, it's all a piece of it. And it and why it's good for you and why these things are not bad and whatever. Like it's all a piece of it and it's very, very important. I would love to have a sex expert on show. I would do. Can you think of some things that you guys apply right now like in terms of sexual fitness to make sure that part of your life stays healthy
Starting point is 01:06:01 like you the same way that we talk about our exercise and making sure that our body stays healthy like you the same way that we talk about our exercise and making sure that our body stays healthy because we train it we build muscle we burn body fat we live in a you know caloric deficit for half the time and then a surplus in the other and we rotate our food we do all these things for our our internal health and fitness and our body externally, what are you guys doing to keep your sexual fitness alive and with your partners? Are there things that you have implemented in joy? Or is that an area that may be neglected that you guys don't talk and spend a lot of time on?
Starting point is 01:06:38 So, at the moment, it's not something that I need to place focus on because it's so, we're so connected on that level that the sexual fitness between me and my girlfriend is so, or health or whatever is so good because we're so open, we talk about whatever we want, we're so connected, we make time for each other. But in the past, in my marriage, it was especially towards the end there, it was absolutely terrible. And some things I think would have helped would have been to maybe, and this is obviously
Starting point is 01:07:14 hindsight's 2020, so I can look back and think, oh, this would have totally helped. At the moment, I would have never thought of this, but I wish we had scheduled time to just lay down cuddle and talk with no expectations. Because I think with, especially at the time with my ex, she made it felt like, oh, if we're going to do that, there's pressure to have sex. So then she's going to be like, that's going to add anxiety and stress to the whole situation because she's so stressed out. She's a very stressed out individual with life and everything. So that might have been something that would have been beneficial.
Starting point is 01:07:46 Or I said, hey, look, why don't we schedule this time? We're just going to lay down cuddle and talk and there's no expectations. And I'll place the ball in your court and I'm not going to be disappointed or whatever if nothing happens. And that could have contributed, I think, in a positive way. Yeah, I think it, I mean, this is something that we've addressed multiple times and just after having kids and like the change of chemistry and the way that, you know, the perception of sex and kind of my expectations and all that kind of stuff, we went through like different
Starting point is 01:08:17 like highs and lows with that and like, maintain like really good communication throughout the process, which definitely helped to get us back kind of more in a In a place where we realized I mean going through that whole process like The bodies changed the bodies changed the hormones of change like all this stuff and like now kind of getting back to Making ourselves both both our ourselves more healthy as far as Stress levels as far as like you like thyroid, these things that we're finding that we could improve holistically, then just naturally, it just tends to just happen. Like you get these feelings again and the connectivity becomes deeper again.
Starting point is 01:09:04 And it's interesting because for me, obviously, I don't want to put the expectation. Her perception was different because it's like, I'm more the aggressor, right? I'm out there to like, I'm like, yeah, like my form of love is very physical. And so I had to kind of check myself on that and be like, look, you know, let's create a different environment.
Starting point is 01:09:29 Let's not be so like, you know, have this like energy about me, like walking in and like stressing her the hell out with, you know, my all my like crazy energy. And so I had to like really work on that and figure that out. And it's really helped. And this is something that like now we're kind of in a place where I understand kind of the sequence, the cadence, like what, you know, I need to do contribution, like contribution wise at the house, you know, how we need to offload a lot of stress, you know, that's when you're in her down, like all these different things. Like it's a, you know, it's a communication, it's a push pull and it's getting better and
Starting point is 01:10:04 better. So it's just that's all communication, it's a push pull, and it's getting better and better. That's all part of it. Number one killer for sexual health is stress. Stress will just kill me 100%. If I'm stressed out, that's the last thing on my mind, and if I handle my stress, then it's not a big deal. Everything's cool. Is there things that you guys do though to make sure that?
Starting point is 01:10:24 I'm sure The last year that we've had all the stuff going on is there been things that You guys have seen that has stressed the relationship that it that you're now more aware of and so you've put things into practice like hey when With this happens we need to do this or you know or or there are things too that maybe make your guys is ladies insecure or jealous or frustrated with you with some of that and so you know how to combat that so it doesn't affect your guys' sexual relationship. Conversation is the best for us.
Starting point is 01:10:55 It's definitely for me. So if I'm stressed out, if I'm really, really stressed out, if I can talk about it, that usually will lead to a rousal for me for whatever reason. As I'm talking about the stress, and I'm relieving it, it's like this release, and now I'm feeling really good, and then it turns into sexual energy, many, many, many times.
Starting point is 01:11:16 If I don't talk about it with the other person, then it just stays there. So conversation is so important. And we do that. I mean, I'm happy to say that most nights, we spend at least 30 minutes to an hour where we just talk. We just, everything's off and we're just having great conversation.
Starting point is 01:11:35 Do you have to prime that at all? Is there any priming to that or do you just naturally just kind of flow into that? It's like a routine for us, like we do that night. Night before bed. Yeah, and on top of that, like I think, understanding how we're spending our time, after the kids go to sleep,
Starting point is 01:11:52 it's like we get this little window. And like a lot of times it gets interrupted because during the week, she'll work and works from like two to midnight or whatever. And so it's like, okay, there's like two or three times that we got even see her. And so just to now, like the new schedule kind of forced us to shut down TV, shut down, and we just sit there and like,
Starting point is 01:12:15 either some music song or whatever, but we're like, I'm literally just engaging in conversation and trying to focus completely on, you know, what she has to say and what the conversation itself definitely you can feel like that connectivity coming back and that definitely feeds back into sex and all that stuff. You go to the naked spa. That's great for that.
Starting point is 01:12:42 It's just it's really good for that if you go with your single other men. Let's be honest. And it has nothing more to do than just, it's like you just feel like what's the word? The taboo is gone, I've walked around that way or whatever I'm being around of the people and then all of a sudden it just feel alive. Well, I think that has to do with you completely letting your guard down since if we look at the evolution of man and clothes and why we started to clothes ourselves, that's all insecurity driven and it's marketed to us that we need to wear these things
Starting point is 01:13:12 and that we keep every week is a new fashion and a new thing. It's funny too, because if you look up, like hunter-gatherers, modern hunter-gatherers, even those that live in really hot climates, people walk around naked for the most part but the men always cover,
Starting point is 01:13:26 the men's genitalia is almost always covered. It's not common. Buck bites. It's not common to walk around with your dick hanging around, hanging out. And the reason is because it is such a visible sign of a rousal when a man gets a rouser, it makes sense that they would want to cover that. You know what I'm saying? Could you imagine the, I Could you imagine the... I could just imagine the trouble that would cause if you're with your... It's a lot of sword fighting. Yeah. Maybe. Next question.
Starting point is 01:13:52 Okay, last question comes from Dennis Wayne. If you guys had the choice to be on a reality TV show, which one would you choose? Reality TV. You know it would be great. If Adam was single That's not the great part because I love to say he was single if he was on the bachelor. Yeah, oh my god, bro That would be great. What was that one temptation island? Yeah, we already had our buddy who's been on that been so Horn did his did that I you know and I don't know
Starting point is 01:14:23 After talking to him, I don't know if I would I would ever do a reality TV show. It feels like it's a one-way street to 15 minutes of fame and then you're done. It feels like, right? Yeah, I know. I remember running into what's this face from Jersey Shore? Who's the loud one? Paulie. Paul, oh, was it Paulie? Yeah, we are not Paulie with the other one. Mike? Yeah, Mike. Yeah, situation.
Starting point is 01:14:50 Thank you, Mike. Yeah. Just fucked up. I mean, he was on all kinds of drugs. What was this? And Vegas, he was coming out, he was actually getting thrown out of the club. And I was on, I believe it was Hocasson, I was on my way into and they were, and they were dragging them out. And you could just, I mean, he just it was Hocus on, I was on my way into, and they were, and they were dragging them out.
Starting point is 01:15:05 And you could just, I mean, he just looked, just messed up, like really, really bad. And I feel like that's what happens to a lot of these, like reality stars, because before that, like you weren't like a real actor, it wasn't like something you were pursuing, you know, a career into, like, acting, and you really passionate about it.
Starting point is 01:15:21 You're just like a professional partier. Well, what you, you, normally what happens is, you know, whoever's creating this reality show has this, this character is that they're looking for, right? And when you start like a, you know, Jersey Shore with that, like they, they looked for guys and girls that were going to fit this show, right? And then they feed it to them. Right. exactly. And then they put them in situations that are going to feed the drama and they create
Starting point is 01:15:50 that. And I would never want to be a part of that. Like, you could not pay me enough, I think, to do it. Well, I take that back. Everyone has a number. And it's not real. Yeah, you would be talking about it. Yeah, if you paid me fuck you money to do, which no one does, the whole point of reality
Starting point is 01:16:03 is TV shows. And why there's such a money maker is because you can get away with paying somebody hardly anything because they wanna be. Or free? Yeah, right, no exactly, because they wanna be famous so bad that you can get away with paying them nothing
Starting point is 01:16:16 to pretty much get on a show and act to fool themselves. So I have never, and I've dated girls that had this desire to be celebrity so bad. I've never been star struck. I've never cared about that. I'd much rather be the guy who's worth millions of dollars and you have no idea who I am than the guy who's not worth very much money, but everybody knows who I am because I'm Mr. Popular. What about, I mean, so if you actually have talent and you actually have goals and business just like you started your Instagram account, right? And you actually have talent and you actually have goals and business just like you started your Instagram account,
Starting point is 01:16:46 right, and you actually are business minded about it. I feel like there's a way that if you orchestrate that ahead of time and like you're actually known for like what you're going in it with, you might have a chance. I mean, that might be so. No, I think you're right. If you have some, let's use bin for that example, right? And I think Ben even went on this most recent one
Starting point is 01:17:09 Again with that same attitude and what what we've seen is it's not translating into dollars for him whatsoever and so I think you got to ask yourself that If you go into a reality show you're at the mercy of the one who's the guy who's a director Yeah, the producer and the director. So if I have my own agenda that, hey, I'm going to build this fitness company and I'm going to go on this new fitness reality show that's out there. And then I find out they've scripted me to basically be the guy who fucks all the girls on the show and creates drama and I'm getting shit thrown at me all the time. Like, is that going to pivot to my fitness dreams
Starting point is 01:17:45 that I was really trying to do? Or am I gonna become the douchebag on TV and fucks all the girls? You say that, yeah, cause, I mean, look at Biggest Loser and like America's toughest trainer or whatever. It's just like, that's pure marketing. Like the director and whoever just kind of created this, this persona of like these, these trainers and they got their own celebrity with it some ran with it some you know
Starting point is 01:18:07 That's a good example because I think Jillian Michaels if it wasn't for biggest loser. I think she's a She's a terrible trainer, you know, let's be honest. I mean you said it. Let's yeah, no, I'll say it And I know she has a package right now. She's sorry, you know, I'm saying they're You know, you know, it's funny is she's actually, I've seen some stuff that she's written recently. It looks like she's starting to get better. Cause in the early days. Well, I would hope so. She's now been a trainer for God knows how many years,
Starting point is 01:18:32 but I know when she first put her on biggest loser, I definitely know her. She's a character. Yeah, her experience, her education. She's a brand now. I mean, she's on like everything. Right. Just put her face on it.
Starting point is 01:18:44 So it definitely worked out to her benefit for it. It's gotta work if you wanna turn it into a business because like the bachelor, like you're on the bachelor. What can you do with that now business wise? Nothing, what can you do? Maybe you'll write a book on relationships. Yeah, it's something like you'd have to translate like, or maybe sell sell clothing or makeup.
Starting point is 01:19:05 I know a lot of these female reality stars, then we'll sell makeup and they'll do okay. You got to be really good at what you're doing, but here's a thing you got to consider. You get typecasts with regular shows. If you play Superman on a TV show and that's what you do, then you tend to get typecasts. With reality shows, the typecasts even work because worse, because people assume that's who you are. Right. So now you're the fucking douchebag party guy or you're the girl that whatever.
Starting point is 01:19:30 And they are 100% if you. And that's in real life. You try and get a job or anything. If people are not aware of this, like they fully script even reality shows. Reality shows are not just turn the cameras on and let people do what they want. And it was tell me like even one one of the, like so the first meeting, like everybody's there, reality shows, reality shows are not just turn the cameras on and let people do what they want.
Starting point is 01:19:45 And it was tell me like even one of the, like so the first meeting like everybody's there and have this big like dinner, all the stuff they're filming it and they're getting reactions. They literally had to like the next day were the same exact thing. Through all over again. Do the same exact thing all
Starting point is 01:20:00 because they didn't get enough shots. Right. We had to recreate that entire thing all over again. Yeah, and then they and then they cut and edit. So you can Right. I had to recreate that entire thing all the time. Yeah. And then they cut and edit. So you can easily, I mean, God, think of all the things I've said on the show. You could easily take little one sentences out of a whole paragraph of something I'm talking about.
Starting point is 01:20:16 It really make me look like a piece of shit because you didn't let me finish my sentence. Well, they do that in reality shows is they, you know, they prod them, they stick them in situations, they take out pieces that are going to shape the character that they're trying to create. And it's a fucking, you can never catch me. Here's my answer to this. If I had the choice to be on a reality show, I would be on my reality show. That's the one I would choose. And I'll tell you. That's not a real show. It's just stupid to answer. Let's get a real show after this. After this answer.
Starting point is 01:20:48 Why don't you let me finish it? I know, go ahead. Let me make my own rules up here. You were released. At TV, right? It wasn't that. It's my show. The Truman Show.
Starting point is 01:20:57 Hey, it's our fucking podcast. I can make up my own reviews. No, I'll tell you. It's a real show. I would do a reality show. And I'm in charge. I produce it. I direct it. Listen you it's a real show. I would do a reality show. And I'm in charge. I produce it, I direct it.
Starting point is 01:21:07 It's phenomenal. What does Trump say for long, whatever. Here's what I would do. I would do a reality show where we go into gyms and we fucking turn them around in a month. That would be a great reality show. And it would only bolster our authority and our space. It would only show what we can do.
Starting point is 01:21:26 And I think it would be fun. That would be fun. I think about that. We walk into a gym and we've discussed this, right? And here's the problem with it. And part of the reason why I think we haven't fully pursued it is once you go down that, it's a fucking rabbit hole, right? It's inevitable.
Starting point is 01:21:43 Even if like the first four or five shows everyone's like oh this is really cool it after four or five shows it's over it's the same thing it's not cool anymore to you to us it's cool because we're going in we're flipping gyms and it's what we love to do and yet it but for entertainment purposes it's dead unless we're creating false drama yeah drama where we go right we go in to flip the gym and we find out the general manager is fucking all the trainers. You know what I'm saying? And we have to go in and we gotta make way spicy.
Starting point is 01:22:13 Right, if it's not, if it's not so popper-like, let me ask you this. It won't feed the loop. Well, let me ask you this. If we walked into 10 gyms that need to be turned around, do we really need to create drama? I think it's, come on. We've worked it enough, Jim.
Starting point is 01:22:27 So you're right. The Marica says yes. It is there. It is there. It is there, but after we go and flip one gym and we put everybody's fucking business on front street, what Jim's gonna let us in the next time to go do that to them.
Starting point is 01:22:40 I don't know, the restaurants do it with the restaurant take over. Yeah, but it's the same thing though, that's all orchestrated. Right. At the head of over. Yeah, but it's the same thing though, that's all orchestrated. Right, ahead of time. Right, so they make it like extra dirty, they add all these like bugs and shit. Like I know, I remember talking to somebody
Starting point is 01:22:53 that was like attached to that. Here's the deal. Here's the deal. Your idea of it being your, you would be a bad reality producer. You just wouldn't know how to do it. You would not. Two reals, boring.
Starting point is 01:23:04 You, only you and everyone close to you would think your show is cool Because it's about you and that just feeds that other people here's what I would like to be on the sharks That would be fun just to just to get in front of the shark team. Yeah Yeah, yeah, and I know the same thing with that. That's all orchestrated They hand select all these people, you know They reach out to them and they make sure they get them a script and everything to follow Dude, I remember watching American Idol, which is a bruh, by the way one of the most brilliant, uh, you know Shows ever because they knew that they would sell records for whoever won because you followed them on their journey
Starting point is 01:23:35 But I'll watch it and then they'd have these shitty singers go in front of you know Paul Abdul and Simon and you know whatever and I'm for a split second I remember thinking like, oh, man, those people really suck, this is terrible. And then I'm like, wait a minute, like thousands of people are waiting to get in line. They can't see everybody. And I'm like, oh, they're purposely picking shitty people. Like the purpose of, like, oh, you should go, yeah,
Starting point is 01:23:57 they need to come to the contrast. Yeah. In front of the judges. Right. Right. It's not that 30 best singers of the 300,000 they met. It's about 15. It's about 10 or 15 that they already know are gonna be the final 10 And then the rest are fillers for drama that are gonna be made fun of and they're gonna be hilarious or have an attitude or do something crazy Yeah, no, is there a reality show that you would be on if you had to pick one there isn't absolutely I don't I you know 16 impregnant Sorry Yeah, we hope so yeah, no, no that's the only one that I never I tell you I watch when I'm sick But I there's no reality show I never wanted to be on one and maybe it was because as they we were part of the
Starting point is 01:24:43 Generation of the real world on MTV, that was the first one. Right, so this is, remember Puck. Right, so I mean, technically, if you're being technical, the first true reality show is Cops, but moving beyond that would be real-world road rules. What you're gonna do? Yeah, right, go in that direction.
Starting point is 01:24:58 So we were part of the generation that saw this and I never, I got sucked into him as a kid. Like I watched the real- world when I was a kid, but I don't, I never was like, oh, I would love to be a lawyer. It just, it doesn't make sense to me to have. I'm not attracted to drama. Did you see now they have like the real world,
Starting point is 01:25:15 but like they have to like have 90s technology and like, oh my God, what can we do? Oh no, I can take away their phones, no social media and like these people are just like, I saw a commercial for it and I was just like, what the hell is this? Oh wow, I have not checked out what those are like now. I like naked and afraid.
Starting point is 01:25:34 That one's pretty, I don't even know what that is. So they take, they take two people who, and they'll drop them in the middle of nowhere. They have the bum fuck. Naked, they have no clothes on them. And they have like minimal things that they can work with. I don't like they'll give them in the middle of nowhere. The bum fuck. Naked. They have no clothes on them. And they have like minimal things that they can work with. I don't like, they'll give them like,
Starting point is 01:25:49 they get to pick like one item. Like one item. Yeah. But I mean, it's harsh, bro. It's like a knife or underwear. What do I have? Yeah, right. It's harsh.
Starting point is 01:25:57 They have to build their own structure. So this is like, have you guys seen a loan? So a loan is like that. That's the more hard core version. That's like the more real version. Yeah, that's super hard source. It's like man versus wild, but it's competitive, right? So they drop 10 people on some remote islands.
Starting point is 01:26:13 And with the price, I don't even remember. I think they win a million dollars. Oh, well, that's not bad. Yeah. That's not bad. Yeah, I don't understand people that want fame without money. Or, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:26:22 That doesn't make any sense. Yeah. Fame without success. What's crazy is more people than you think it's extreme. It's not you go in a stupid. It's not what you want It's what we see I mean, you know, it's no different than watching what I what I watch on Instagram all time Which fascinates me these people that will they will promote somebody else's brand You know knowing damn well They're probably not to make hardly any money, but it's just to say that they're attached to this brand and get some free t-shirts or free supplements. And it's such a win for the companies. And
Starting point is 01:26:54 it's such, it's the dumbest thing you can do. And I know I'm probably offending quite a few people that are listening to this right now that do that. It's like, what are you doing? Like, if you, if you care about building yourself or building your own brand or making a legitimate business, you tying yourselves to a company and making 10% or 20% commission or some free supplements. Some of them are just selling. Yeah, it's like, but people wanna attach themselves
Starting point is 01:27:20 to this brand to say that they're a sponsored athlete and it's beautiful because the companies play right into that. And do that's the same thing with these reality shows so many kids want to be I get there 15 minutes of fame that these brilliant companies are like this is great let's find six to fun dysfunctional kids that want to be on show so bad that always to do is pay them $10,000 that we know me have to pay $10 million for actors to actually do this the same thing and more people will tune in because there'll be idiots go to mind pump TV on YouTube we post new videos every single day you got to see the one that's up right now with Justin it's pretty hilarious I'm half naked also if you go to mind pump media dot com we got 30 days of coaching it's available for free thank you for listening to mind pump if your goal is to
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