Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 641: The Best Way to Lower Body Fat, Detrimental Effects of Holding Stretches, the Impact of Personal Trauma on Eating Disorders & MORE

Episode Date: November 17, 2017

Kimera-Quah! In this episode of Quah, sponsored by Kimera Koffee (kimerakoffee.com, code "mindpump" for 10% off), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about the detrimental effects of holding stretches for extended periods of time, the best way to lower body fat, if they could never work in fitness again, what would they do instead and the role personal trauma plays in disordered eating. Mind Pump #1 Fitness Podcast in the world! (3:29) Thrive Market/Organifi partnering ongoing (7:00) Catrina “All Star” baker/cook (8:55) Mind Pump staple Thanksgiving foods (11:22) “Push-Present/Baby Showers/Gender Reveal Parties” WHY??!! (13:45) Alt Radio – Elijah shout out! (17:55) Quah question #1 – Are there any detrimental effects of holding stretches for extended periods of time? (20:20) Quah question #2 – What is the best way to lower body fat? (32:52) Quah question #3 – If all of you could never work in fitness, what would you do instead? (45:34) Quah question #4 – What role do you think personal trauma plays in disordered eating? (55:15) Related Links/Products Mentioned: Kimera Koffee Use the code "mindpump" Organifi (Official Mind Pump sponsor) Use the code “mindpump” for 20% off Thrive Market (Official Mind Pump sponsor) One FREE month’s membership $20 off your first three purchases of $49 or more (That’s $60 off total!) Free shipping on orders of $49 or more Alt-Radio by Elijah Finn – (Episode with Sal) CURRENT CONCEPTS IN MUSCLE STRETCHING FOR EXERCISE AND REHABILITATION (study) FRC® Certification (San Jose, CA) – Feb. 10-11th, 2018 - Mind Pump Media HQ MAPS Prime/Prime Pro Sal Di Stefano (@mindpumpsal)  Instagram Potential Adverse Cardiovascular Effects From Excessive Endurance Exercise (study) People Mentioned: Amelia Boone (@ameliaboone)  Twitter Elijah Christopher Finn (@altradioelijah)  Instagram Dr. Andreo Spina (@drandreospina)  Instagram Ray Romano Would you like to be coached by Sal, Adam & Justin? You can get 30 days of virtual coaching from them for FREE at www.mindpumpmedia.com. Get our newest program, MAPS Prime Pro, which shows you how to self assess and correct muscle recruitment patterns that cause pain and impede performance and gains. Get it at www.mindpumpmedia.com! Get MAPS Prime, MAPS Anywhere, MAPS Anabolic, MAPS Performance, MAPS Aesthetic, the Butt Builder Blueprint, the Sexy Athlete Mod AND KB4A (The MAPS Super Bundle) packaged together at a substantial DISCOUNT at www.mindpumpmedia.com. Make EVERY workout better with MAPS Prime, the only pre-workout you need… it is now available at mindpumpmedia.com Have Sal, Adam & Justin personally train you via video instruction on our YouTube channel, Mind Pump TV. Be sure to Subscribe for updates. Also check out Thrive Market! Thrive Market makes purchasing organic, non-GMO affordable. With prices up to 50% off retail, Thrive Market blows away most conventional, non-organic foods. PLUS, they offer a NO RISK way to get started which includes: 1. One FREE month’s membership 2. $20 Off your first three purchases of $49 or more (That’s $60 off total!) 3. Free shipping on orders of $49 or more Get your Kimera Koffee at www.kimerakoffee.com, code "mindpump" for 10% off! Get Organifi, certified organic greens, protein, probiotics, etc at www.organifi.com Use the code “mindpump” for 20% off. Go to foursigmatic.com/mindpump and use the discount code “mindpump” for 15% off of your first order of health & energy boosting mushroom products. Add to the incredible brain enhancing effect of Kimera Koffee with www.brain.fm/mindpump 10 Free sessions! Music for the brain for incredible focus, sleep and naps! Also includes 20% if you purchase! Please subscribe, rate and review this show! Each week our favorite reviewers are announced on the show and sent Mind Pump T-shirts! Have questions for Mind Pump? Each Monday on Instagram (@mindpumpmedia) look for the QUAH post and input your question there. (Sal, Adam & Justin will answer as many questions as they can)

If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND first 17 minute intro, me, Adam and Justin, talk about a variety of subjects, mainly how cool and how good we are. It's, and how humble we are. Mine pump hit number one, in fitness podcasts in the world. So we talk about that for a second, we give each other hand jobs. Then we talk about cooking and baking

with organifi supplements. They make a plant-based protein powder, they make a green juice that's really good, they make a red juice that's really good. Adam talks about some of the recipes he's been having fun with. If you go to organifishop.com, enter the code Mind Pump, you get 20% off whatever you want. We also talk about Adam's Thanksgiving. We talk about the Jell-O Salads of people. It really is a thing. Yeah, I'm sorry, mom. Why do they call it Jell-O Salads? We're not even a salad. And we talk about other types of

foods that we eat during Thanksgiving. We talk about gender reveal parties. Adam was totally confused. Baby showers. Boy, our girl, not yeah. And I give someone a shout out and then everybody tries to piggyback on that. And then we get into the questions. The first question was, are there any detrimental effects of holding stretches for extended periods of time? Static stretching lately has been getting kind of a bad rap

because studies are showing that if you do static stretching before your workouts, you're like, you actually increase risk of injury. Did that mean you should throw them out with the baby. No, and this is where we talk, right after this question, we talked about prime and prime pro bundle right now.

This is, if you're not somebody who's signed up for the FRC that we have coming in February that we talked about, and you're interested in what type of movements that you should be doing for correct imbalances, do we alleviate any aches or pains that you may be dealing with, or how to just take care of your body before you go into a workout, that's how these programs were designed. So make sure you guys check out the Prime Pro bundle that we have.

Yep. Both of those can be found at mindpumpmedia.com. The second question was, what is the best way to lower body fat? Sounds like a very general question. We get that question a lot. We're actually going to some of the hits around Google for that. Yeah. We go into some interesting detail with that. You might be shocked at what we say in this episode for that question, in particular all around cardio. It sucks for fat loss. Yeah. Then the question, the next question was,

if all of us had to leave the fitness industry, what would we do instead? And who would survive? And finally, the last question is, what role do we think personal trauma plays in disordered eating? So, when people have a bad relationship to food, how much can we blame things that happened to us growing up in our childhood? And we get a little personal with that we talk about things

that happen to us and why that drove us to work out eat the way we did also add a mention the prime and prime pro bundle uh... those two programs extremely correction again that can be found at mine pump media dot com it's that old time rocky and roll Don't try to take me to a disco You never even sent me out on the flow Days music ain't got the same style I like that old time rockin' roll. Yeah, that's how we open that shit today. Wow Wow, I got talk about red line. I got man I want to blow everybody's ears. I got a guy dude. I feel like shit. Wow. Wow, I got, talk about red line. I got M.K. I got moist.

I want to blow everybody's ears out. I got a good guy, dude. I feel moisture. I feel the energy. That was, I feel the energy. That was, why are you so excited? I don't know, man. It's a good day.

It's because, it's number one. Is it because we're number one in fitness in the world? Yeah, me and Tyler. Podcasts in the world. Yeah. So, that can be it. Let me just paint the picture. Take the earth. And. So, so let me just paint the picture, take the Earth.

And it's flatness. There's all, there's like, take all the fitness podcasts on Earth. Yeah. We're the first, we're first place. Yeah. And we're in that category. And we're humble.

Yeah, I was just gonna say lots of humility coming to us. And we're super humble about it. We tagged everyone underneath us. Hey, let's be honest, I mean. She's what they knew. It's an underneath. Let's be honest, let's be honest. It's been, I mean, it's been a grind, dude.

It's been a grind, it's been a hot, we're, it's been our first time, and then we hit number one in a while ago. Yeah, we've hit it a couple of times now, but it's still, it's not, I don't know, I think when we first took off, one, it surprised, right? We came out the gates when we turned the podcast on. There was a great response.

2017 has been a different one. 2017, we've been in this for a little while. We had a decent amount of listeners. We're always typically in the top 25 or so. But man, it's been a grind to break through that number one spot since then. And it's been tough. So it feels good to be there. There's a lot of, there's a lot of really good reward.

There's a lot of good podcasts out there. This is what's happening. And the, let's getting more competitive. It's getting more competitive. A lot of, a lot more podcast period. A lot of people are starting podcasts now, which I think is exciting. I like that people are tackling this.

They're able to get their voice out. They're getting their message out. And so far from, you know, because I've been on quite a few of the podcasts now, I've been interviewed by quite a few podcasts. And some of them are small, some of them are just getting started. And I love seeing that because I love seeing that energy and that enthusiasm.

I love seeing, you know, if you have a good message, I'll get on your podcast. I don't care how small you are. I don't mind. I love talking about our message. And I want to encourage people. I want to encourage people to, you know, we can't, here's the thing. The bottom line is we can't do, we cannot get this movement to do what we want it to do by ourselves.

We need partners, we need other people to do this. I love seeing other fitness podcasters who are promoting what we consider a good message, which is balance, wellness, strength, fitness, health, feeling good. This is such a great platform to talk about all this stuff because you can go into great depth and then the truth will kind of Emerge as a result and all these like other forms of media are so fast and like short little clips that people get Miss lead all the time just by these little blurbs and I feel like people need to sit and listen and and work their way through all these different Topics and ideas. I don't know if I'm more excited about that,

or I'm more excited about the adventure we have ahead of us now with Amelia Boone, or the Thrive Market, continue on a relationship with those companies, both Thrive Market and Organifi have been, two of our best partnerships. And so we just locked in the next quarter with both of those companies. So that's a, I don't know, there's a lot to be excited

about today, all that today, all that happening today. It's cool, it's cool, a lot of energy. It's cool when you work with organizations that have the same, similar message, so far everybody we've worked with that we've talked to in these companies. It's a lot easier to talk about. Great integrity, they have the right message,

they understand what we're all about, they don't try to control us, which is this is very difficult. We're tough, here's the thing, we're not the easiest podcast, the sponsor, because we don't follow direction very well. We just don't. We are ideas are better at the end of the day.

And to share with you, I just a little bit how that comes out. Like I remember when we first signed with both those companies and like most these bigger companies that I mean they run all the analytics, they've done all kinds of marketing advertising. So they send over like all this.

This is how what we want you to say. This is commercial. Read this. Yeah. And my pump goes, um, no, we're not gonna do that. No, it's a if we like it no, we're not gonna do that. No, it's a, if we like it, then we'll talk about it. And it'll happen naturally.

Right, right, right. And that's it. Well, that was the beauty of waiting for the companies that we actually all would use and that we actually totally enjoy speaking, speaking of organified. Thank you for posting that recipe. Finally, I got you guys. I know.

Man, looks delicious. That's a new one, man. And I had some made for you guys. I'm gonna bring. I know, man, looks delicious. That's a new one, man. That's a new one, man. And I had some made for you guys. I'm gonna bring some. Okay, so I won't forget. Okay, good. I'm glad it's on podcast.

We have it on record. So far, you've made like five different things. Yeah, we've been playing around with me and Justin have had none of them. It's a taste of the nothing. So, I should share the ones that are disasters. So, I love my girl. Organ, organified pizza. So I love my girl. Organe, I love you. I'm like,

so Katrina has turned into like quite the baker and cook in the last like four years of our relationship. And I absolutely love it. And she loves to experiment now. Like so when we first started dating, she was the total like athlete and, you know, go get a woman working crazy hours and eight out every single day. And she's completely 180 to be,

we always have a home-cooked meal. There's always meals that she's prepared already in the refrigerator, so I eat like a king now. And now she's starting to get in the baking because we've been messing with all these recipes that organize incredible. If you haven't been on their website, so their stuff cooks really well.

It does. And you're using the green, and it's usually the green powder in the protein, right? So in some recipes are are better with just what I was just gonna share with you is Because the green goes so well She's been like trying to hold everything well. She made these red velvet chocolate chip brownies and Which was perfect for the the way that I mean the protein, and which was perfect for the way, the protein powder, that was perfect for me, but she thought, I'm gonna try the green juice in there, and it just did Red Velvet Chocolate Vegetables.

Vegetables, Joe. Yeah, it was a total, it was a total. That's what it was trying. That was an epic fail for sure, it was not a good one. But it just depends on what you're making, right? So things that... I wanna see the macros, I think it would be smart if we knew what the macros were because,

you know, we have a lot of people that... So I don't know, great for them. I know, I know, and that's just one more step I have to do to do that. I actually do that when I'm competing and tracking, obviously. But I'll tell you right now, I look at it and add it up to go like, oh, it's a light, healthy snack. This is not a...

Because you're making those same brownies for things. I heard you were in the car and you got on the phone with your mom and you were talking about how you're gonna bring a healthy snack. I'm assuming that's what you were gonna bring. This is what we're bringing, my mom tells Katrina to bring a Jello salad and she's gonna go, she's like, what the fuck is a Jello salad?

Well, it's this thing that my mom is made where we make Jello and they put marshmallows in it. I don't know why it's called a salad because there's no lettuce in it. What's so, what's that? It's a green Jello. Oh my god. It's awful.

And I told my mom like, she, my girl's not gonna bring Jello salad to this. Like, no, it's not okay. That's not just a thing there. That's a thing in my family too. I can't understand it. I'm like, what is this? It's not even good.

It's like marshmallows and jello and like, oh, you're gonna eat that as your salad. Like, no. Yes. Are there staple dishes you guys have at Thanksgiving? Oh, different than the traditional dishes? Oh, the ordinate. You know what I'm saying?

Like, everybody does turkey, everybody does. Is there something that's? Oh, we have. Pop Tarts. Yeah. What? Oh, I thought you were serious right there. I was like, what? I was like, that's lazy. Hey kids, I made pop darts. What? Oh, I thought you were serious right there. I was like, what?

I was like, that's lazy. Hey kids, I made pop darts. Yeah. I don't think there's anything like two or so. Katrina's family, they do this like three layer mac and cheese thing. That's pretty crazy. I've never seen anybody do it before. And it's like, you guys don't do tamale.

Justin would literally orgasm. Just eating it. 100%. Make sure not to give just a few guys. No, no, it is a cheese guys. It's like three different types of cheeses that compliment each other and it's like layers and then there's just some. I wish I could have Dury. So that's something that her family does. My family, there's nothing too original. I mean, the stupid yellow salad. My mom does the sweet potato

yams with the marshmallows. But what I look I mean I mean we have this 100 year old recipe that's a stuffing recipe and my mom you know stuff that we actually cooked the stuffing in the turkey you know so I don't know supposed to yeah so a lot of playaways don't do that right I thought everybody did that like I just assumed because I was I grew up on that and then I'd have all these things getting that's the way you're supposed to do that and I, and I'd be like, what? A box? What? The oven? What? No, it goes into Turkey's ass.

That's the only way to have stuffing. Yeah. You're not eating real stuffing. Yeah, I'm not eating it. Let's come out of your Turkey's ass. That's the only way it's real. Otherwise, it's BS fucking stuffing. But my mom makes it.

So it gives it the flavor of that turkey ass. It is. But that's it. We don't really have anything else. I think that's really crazy. I mean, you guys cook your turkey different every year. Or do you cook the same way? I still want to go to somebody's house that's it, we don't really have anything else. I think that's really crazy. I mean, you guys cook your turkey different every year or do you cook the same way? I still wanna go to somebody's house that fries it.

I did that one year. One year. So tell me when you do it, I didn't do it. My friend did it, so he had the fryer. First of all, did you know that a large percentage of fires that happen around the holiday season? Because of friars? Yeah.

I didn't know that. Apparently they're extremely dangerous. That makes the holiday season? Because of the holiday season? Yeah. I didn't know that. Apparently they're extremely dangerous. That makes sense. Yeah, I always hear how dangerous it is. And when you lower the turkey in the fri, because we had it outside, so my buddy, it was at my buddy's house, and we did it.

It was a friend's giving. So it's kind of like a Thanksgiving, but not right. That's the new thing to you guys know that? Yeah. What? The week before Thanksgiving is Thanksgiving. Friends giving. Yeah, people are always doing things and like labeling.

Why don't we start a holiday? Yeah. A mind pump. Yeah, pump giving. That's like the push present. You know what I mean? I have to find that one out. The fuck's a push present? We need, when, give birth and then they, now you have to give them a present.

What? For the process. Yeah. Why? Not making it up. This is something that was expressed to me. I was like, you're making this up. Explain this to me.

So this go, the present, this is the present after your lady gives birth. So the husband gets nothing. No, no. All the work we did. Yeah. Which makes sense. I mean, it's, you know, they go to.

We push too. I mean, I would do that out of my, like the kindness of my heart. Anyway, like, I'm gonna put a label on it. I'm not doing it. So who gets, it's just friends are supposed to do that. The girl that the mother is supposed to do it. Okay, let me back this stuff a little bit. So we've got now. We've got engagement parties. Thank you We have which which which engagement ring and when you have baby shower. Okay, so when I grew up a baby shower

Dude didn't go right. Yeah, there were no we lucked out No, I refuse. I will not go to anybody's. I've been I've been to don't invite me. I've been to them I've been to now baby shower. Wow. Yeah, that's horrible. So apparently when you go to a baby shower I don't know this apparently when you go to a baby shower you play games. Yeah, that's how they do co-ed You play I've been to a few no no no no. It's always been games. It's just now Yeah, we are in the games too. It's not for men yet It's it was a win of them was a relay dude., they go all, so. Yeah, and I'm like, I gotta run. I don't even run to work out.

You want me to run for, we're already awkward. Some people go crazy. We, Katrina and I went to, one of her best friends had a one baby shower and it was like, it was Tiffany's was the theme. So everything was wrapped in the Tiffany's paper, all the gifts to the cake was all Tiffany's. They're looting to like presents.

We were all, yeah, no, everything was ridiculous. We were all white. We were all white. So you were all white. It was crazy. Crazy over the top for a baby shower dude. At a control. I don't know.

But then they have the engagement party, right? Then they have the baby shower. Then they have, there's another, there's another one I'm missing. I'm missing another. Yeah, there's another. There is a band that got the reveal, a reveal. missing another yeah, there's another there is there is Reveal a reveal Gender reveal gender reveal gender reveal baby shower creative with that. There's like fucking nine parties

Gender reveal parties. Okay. I tell you there's a lot of planning a lot of money that goes into them now So can I tell you can I tell you what I thank you about dude? I thought a gender reveal party Somebody coming out of the closet. Yeah. And so like a trans. Yeah. So Katrina, she tells it the first one that the way I found out was she's like, Hey, there's a coming out party. This and she tells me who it is.

I'm like, what? Did you know? Oh, did not see that come. She's lesbian. I have no idea. Sometimes she's like, no, you idiot. She's pregnant. This is the kid. The kids coming out. And usually, I'm like, Oh, I'm still time. She's like, no you idiot. She's pregnant. This is the kid, the kid's coming out.

And usually, I'm like, oh, I'm still confused. What does this mean? And what they do in these gender reveal parties is there's usually either a balloon or a cake or something that you cut into and then is it blue? Oh, it's a boy, it's a girl. And this doesn't, it didn't exist when I had kids. And my daughter's eight.

So this is a recent phenomenon. No, we found out right away. What do you mean? Like a girl or boy, like based off of, you know. Just put it on Facebook, huh? Yeah, fucking party. No. Yeah.

Well, hey, you know what though? You didn't get presents. So you could have gotten presents. Oh, I see. I see what it is. That's what it is. It's how you milk gifts out of people. Yeah, well I'm a good person.

You know what I'm saying? That's what I do that to my friends. No, I think that's what it is. It's just how can we get more gifts, man? It's getting out of control these days. Oh, it's getting way out. Everything's a gift. I know.

I wonder if this is just, it makes you wonder, I wonder if it's like retail companies, can start hiring. Of course, you know what I'm saying? What do you guys? I'm from the shelf now, like you know, dominating Christmas.

I'm like, who is this elf on the shelf now? I got a fucking do every time. Who was I, who was I talking to that is Into fashion there tell me that how much that's evolved in the last 10 years to where you know it used to be Close there's there's seasons right so this is fall winner summer collection. Oh, not like 30 seasons now Yeah, now it's every week so it's 50 something Well, they know every time they change a season that they're gonna sell more right so they now it's 50 something so they know every time they change a season that they're gonna sell more Right, so they now it's turn and burn. Yes stuff moves so fast. That's why we're gonna release a new maps program every Every week every month then every year every week

What else can we figure out here? Map down what I left. Oh, man. It's it's crazy Oh, you know what? I want to give a quick shout out. The reason why I want to give this shout out is because I always appreciate when people do a good job with business. I was on a podcast, it's a newer podcast. I interviewed by Alt Radio.

Great Guy Elijah is the host of the podcast. It was an episode, it was October 4th, it was released. It doesn't have an episode number and we talked about how to naturally race testosterone. But great guy sends me a freaking thank you card, writes a nice note, and then gives me a gift card to Amazon. Wow. Like all of this is totally, like you don't need

to do that dude, but fucking great. Pain attention. That's very nice of you and you're doing it right. You're doing it right. As you know, it's a. Did you can't be doing those? Like that then I have to give out all yeah used You can't be starting to give people love on the show like that. Well, did you get it? Did you get an Amazon? No, I get stuff in the mail all the time with that. I get true

Shout out to you Yeah, what do you mean you get stuff all time? I guess stuff in the mail What like what? Oh, I don't share what you guys. Oh, you have the military a personal I do I see if it's something that I'm gonna use, you guys are gonna use it. What? I just got some hats, like from my boy, my boy, Rance, out there, Taylor.

Taylor, Taylor underscore made. Send me some, don't pick it back in my shadow. What the fuck? Well, you're gonna get out. I order of man's because to send me a hat, don't steal that, right? You see, you guys are making my,

my shadow is losing its, it's luster. Well, then now, but then we look like assholes when I shouting I have another episode where record no luster lost. It's a nice gesture. You just decided to bring it up We have gestures coming our way too. I thought it was very smart very smart business very nice No, nice guy. I think that's right. We're trying to get it. If you send so So card he'll talk about you in the show.

Well, I mean, if we analyze the data, you send Adam a gift. It doesn't tell anybody. Sal, to give it to Sal, you get a shout out. Wow, my bump. It does buy you some. You dick. Bring on the bird, Doug. We call it a planet, Kimerikwa!

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First question is from Sec Guy Seth. Are there any detrimental effects of holding stretches for extended periods of time like one minute? There are... Yes and no. Beneficial ass... You always do that. I hate that. It's true though, it is true.

Because I know, you know why I have to get it in there because I know you're gonna do it. That one in there, I throw in depends. And then I'm always like, oh wow. There are detrimental and beneficial effects to holding stretches for long periods of time. So what stretching does is it manipulates, because this was a paradigm shshattering moment for me,

relatively recently, actually, while we were recording Mind Pump, I think it was a while ago, where it really started to dawn on me that, and it was something that I kind of knew, but I didn't really get, that stretching really doesn't change your muscle. It's not lengthening your muscle, the muscle itself doesn't change.

What you're doing with stretching is you're manipulating your central nervous system. You're trying to change the signal that the central nervous system is sending to the muscle. So, knowing that and understanding that, you can start to examine and look at different forms of stretching and start to really break down what they're doing and then when is a good time to use different types of stretching. The type of stretching that this gentleman's asking about this girl, I don't know if it's guy or girl, is asking about holding a stretch for long periods of time. It's a static stretching.

Yeah, like static stretching. It does a very good job of depressing or relaxing, if you will, the central nervous system. It lowers the signal so that the muscle then is able to elongate more. It's like you're telling your body that it's okay. It's okay. You don't need to protect this muscle that much. It's okay to loosen your grip. And the muscle slowly relaxes, which allows you to get into a deeper and deeper range of motion. And this happens with providing the governing sort of bodies that are in place to keep you from getting too far. This is why if you right now are listening, you can test this out yourself, if you haven't

done this already, get into a stretch, hold the stretch for a minute, and you'll find that within that minute, within a very short period of time, you'll increase your range of motion. Now, it's a temporary effect because after you, you know, that effect wears off, the central nervous system goes back to what it was doing before, and then your range of motion goes back. But if you practice it over and over again, you train the CNS to allow muscles to elongate more and more. So that's the benefit.

The benefit is it increases range of motion. Now, here's the detriment. The detriment comes from the benefit. If you tell the central nervous system to relax and allow this muscle to move into a longer range of motion, you're moving into ranges of motion, you don't have control over. In fact, you're actually asking yourself to move into positions that you don't have any control. That's why your central nervous system is so tight in the first place. In other words, if I stretch to touch my toes and I go down, I'm gonna just come up

with an arbitrary number. Let's say I go down 12 inches from my feet. That's because my body has identified that if I go closer than 12 inches to my feet, I now have no more control. So my central nervous system is saying, nope, this is as far as I'll let you go. Anything beyond that, you have no control. If So my central nervous system is saying, nope, this is as far as I'll let you go, anything

beyond that, you have no control. If I keep pushing that without strengthening that new range of motion, I've actually increased my risk of injury, which is why static stretches before training or athletic events has been shown to not reduce injury. In fact, it's been shown to increase risk of injury. Because you don't own that range of motion yet. You don't own it. And that's where mobility, I think that's why we stress mobility so much.

These days is because that's something we've recently learned over the last few years, is that being able to get into range of motion is great and that's ideal. And we look at that from a posture perspective of like, how can we align better and how can we get into these certain positions and have optimal biomechanics in these positions? But guess what? If you get these ranges of motion, you have to be able to have strength and be able to summon that response from your central nervous system effectively so you don't get hurt. So, you know, going through these practices, it makes it all the more important to

you know, apply through these practices, it makes it all the more important to, you know, apply these types of movements constantly. And the more frequently you can get into, maybe not that end range of motion that you could get into passively, but like working your way towards that with applied tension and communication with your central nervous system. Tension is key.

This reminds Doug, when do we have, when is Ken Stretch, Dr. Spinnout, come through February? Spina, yeah, February what? And have we opened up signups for that? 10th and 11th is what it is. 10th and 11th, the February.

I don't think we've opened up. Yeah, we have, dude, it's already open. It's like a lot of people have already signed up. Oh wow. We haven't even mentioned it on the show yet. No. So we do, I mean, I am least a lot of my information that I share and teach a lot of that has come from FRC stuff, right?

So I think I think Andrew Spina is one of the best guys out there that's teaching this method and showing people how to do this correctly. I've been a lot of the stuff that we have put out there with prime and prime pros. Some of that information comes from him. And so we had to book him out over a year in advance to come into the facility. So he comes in February. And if you guys want a class that will rock your world as far as like information and being being able to gain real connected range of motion.

His, I mean, his level of knowledge and the way he explains things is incredible and what he's doing with FRC is awesome. And I think just the concept of it for the general public, it goes over their head but when you really get into it and feel your way through these, you start to understand on a deep level like what you can control, you know, certain

areas of your body that you didn't think you could. And it's pretty enlightening. Well, yeah, now what we should do is we should talk about the like where, where would you use? Because static, because then I have people, I've had trainers, you know, I've talked to you, who then will say, oh, don't do any static stretching. It's a waste. No, I mean post work out is a great time

or like sometimes like when I'm like really sore from the day before, maybe I pushed it too far, I'll get down and hold stretches and do things like that. So static stretching is not... It's also can be used quite effectively with a correctional approach. Right. It's not dead. I think some people make it out to be. It's not dead. It's just been used incorrectly for a very long time.

It was the only form of stretching for a long time. When I was a kid in PE, that was stretching. There was no other form of stretching. When you warmed up, that's what you did. You literally got on the floor and held stretches for long periods of time. But as far as the correctional standpoint is concerned, sometimes I'll use this in a workout. So let's say I'm training a client

and their pecs are really, really tight. And it's not allowing them to get good shoulder blade retraction. I'm not able to get a good full squeeze when we're doing a row or something. I may have them do a static stretch for their chest to temporarily lengthen or weaken them and increase their range of motion.

So now I can go and strengthen the back more effectively. So you can use this for lots of muscles. Let's say when I squat, I've got my calves don't allow my ankle mobility to move into a particular position. Then I might do some static stretching, but then again, I would also combine it with some tension because that also won't get control. The other thing too is my girlfriend, Jessica, she traveled with the Cirque du Soleil for five or six years, maybe four years, and she got really close with some of the world's top acrobats in their coaches. So these are like people, a lot of them were from the Soviet, you know, former Soviet Union,

some of them were from China. And these cultures have some of the best stretching protocols or functional flexibility program protocols you'll ever find because they have these these just long lineages of acrobatics and contortionists in particular like that's really big in some of these countries like contortionist contortionism is not massive in America, but if you go to some of these other countries It's it's an art and they've got schools that that teach it and stuff and one of the things that she told me, the way that they would use static stretching is,

you gain range of motion with static stretching, but then you connect to that new range of motion, once you gain that new range of motion. And an easy way to picture that is, you get into a stretch, I gain two more inches of range of motion that is through the static long hold stretching. Now I get into that stretch, and then my goal is to try to connect to the muscles

that both stretch that or that are stretching and connect to the muscles that are opposing it. So again, if I'm doing a hamstring stretch and I gain a new range of motion and now I'm in there. I'll activate both my hamstrings and then I'll activate my quads and hip flexors and go back and forth because I want to connect not just to the muscle that's elongating, but I want to connect to all the muscle surrounding that particular joint because I want total control of that new range of motion. And she told me that this is a lot of what she would do

and a lot of stuff that the coaches were taking her through. And she went from being a young lady who could not touch her toes and she swears because I thought she was lying, like that's not to no way. She swears 100% that was true. She could not touch her toes. To someone now who can get in the splits and have one foot on one silk and another other silk can do like a van dam.

Well, it's splitting the air. Yeah, that means a great point because if you think about it, her focus is to get strong and to get strong with that flexibility. So I think that a lot of people, the missed conception with it is that we just need to get more flexible, but as you're getting flexible, you need to gain strength, even if it's one to two inches of range that you've increased, you still have to get strong in that. People injure themselves all the time from being too tight and probably as many people, or almost as many people injure themselves

from being too loose. That's actually quite common. I've had quite a few clients like that where they come to me and they're hyper-mobile, super flexible, but have no control. No strength. So when they go, yeah, they go into a squat or a deadlift or they go into a lunge or whatever,'s like shits all over the place and that

Concostum serious problems. Here's another thing you want to keep in mind with Flexibility this is true from pretty much any adaptation that I've looked at and observed and studied you Respond much better to frequency with flexibility than you do with intensity So something that I thought with flexibility was I I'm going to stretch and I'm going to do it hard and I'm going to hurt and I'm going to make the muscle sore. And Jessica's like, no, she's the same thing when you exercise. You're not going to failure, get to the point where you're a little bit beyond your range

of motion and comfort and then play with that. But be frequent with it like every day or twice a day, and then you'll watch yourself progress very, very rapidly. You'll actually see a very consistent progression by applying that frequency principle. So it's really no different than how we treat exercise. So if you're somebody who is a personal trainer or looking to be a trainer or just want to gain a lot of knowledge in this arena, the FRC comes to the Mind Pump Studio February 10th and February 11th. Doug, what website is that for them to sign up? It's FunctionalAnatomySeminars.com FunctionalAnatomySeminars.com. Yeah, you just find the Mind Pump one in San Jose and then you can click

register and it's hosted here at our facility. Right, if you want to come down to Mind Pump Media, you do that one, but they have them like every two weeks. And then if you're just a consumer or somebody who's working out and you want the knowledge, but maybe you don't have the money to spend that on a certification, highly recommend going through Maps Prime Pro because a lot of a lot of the information that we've learned through FRC is applied in that. So and that's a doctor bring has all the certifications that Andrew Spina has put out. And so, if you guys want to learn that information or how to apply it and use it to yourself

with an at-home test, that's what Maps, Prime, Pro, and Prime are all about. And Dr. Brink, who obviously helped us create Prime, and then was extremely instrumental in Prime Pro, he gives a lot of credit to what he knows to FRC. He's done a lot of courses and he always references FRC as one of the ones that really, you know, shattered his paradigm. Right. Next question is from Triples 1985. What is the best way to lower body fat? That must be the question I get the most all the time since I became a personal trainer.

Always. Yeah. It sounds super general, but you know why I put that up there? Because I keep getting it asked and. That kind of brings it back to what, you know, like people coming in for the first time or even just your average person in general. Like this is like what people always take the lean on.

Always get this question or what exercise is best for this, right? Yeah, and they're both very similar answers. You know, they're very similar and is best for this, right? And they're both very similar answers. You know, they're very similar and there isn't this best way for everybody to lose body fat, but there's some general rules that do mean that these could, and there are exercises that are superior and then there is a way of losing body fat that is superior than what the majority do. I think the biggest mistake that I see in fitness to lower body fat is cardio. I just did a post on Instagram.

Oh, I know, and you ruffle all kinds of things. And it's going crazy because it's so controversial to say that. And we always piss people off when we say that because everyone's like, oh, my pump is so anti-card. It's like, no, we're not. No, we're not. It's just that we're just trying to get a different

message out that's been given to you guys for so long that's wrong that cardio is the best way it is not the best way no it should not be the cornerstone of your programming if your goal is lose body fat if your goal is to build endurance then cardio needs to be exactly if you're an athlete or you're somebody who needs endurance that 100% cardio should be a stable but if you're somebody who's trying to reduce body fat and or build muscle, cardio is not the way to do that. No, let me, okay, so let me blow your mind real quick. I'm gonna break it down very, very simple for you. There's really two general ways you can look at exercise

in terms of fat loss. One is manual calorie burning, okay? Manual calorie burning means that I'm having to manually move my body to increase my calorie expenditure. Obviously, it takes a lot of time, a lot of effort. I'm having to move. I'm having to schedule all this movement. So that's the bad side of it.

The good side of it is it's quick. It's very quick. If I want to burn an extra 500 calories, just go move and I'm going to burn an extra 500 calories. So that's the side of it. The good side of it is, it's quick. It's very quick. If I want to burn an extra 500 calories, just go move, and I'm going to burn an extra 500 calories. So that's the benefit of it. The other way to do it to approach it is to increase the amount of calories I burn automatically. This is my resting calorie burn. This is how many calories my burn, my body burns just being alive and just doing my normal

everyday activities. How many calories my burn, my body burns just being alive and just doing my normal everyday activities. The benefit of that is it requires little effort, like how great would it be if you could increase your metabolism by 200 to 300 to 400 calories a day and you don't have to move anymore for that to happen. That's awesome. The awesome thing about it is it's more permanent, it's more long term. And in the context of modern life, it's the best way to go. And what I mean by modern life is you are surrounded by all this food, this hyper-palatable

food, you're not living in times of scarcity. So the struggle is always going to be, I potentially can be eating too much. You know, versus if I go back a thousand years ago, the struggle was, I'm probably not eating too much. You know, versus if I go back a thousand years ago, the struggle was, I'm probably not eating too much. So increasing your metabolic rate, increasing that automatic calorie burn is the better strategy. Now, when you look at exercise,

don't look at it in terms of what's happening while you're doing the exercise. Look at it in terms of the signal that you're sending to your body. And every time you exercise with any type of intensity, you're sending a signal and your body aims to adapt to that signal. So if we examine cardiovascular activity,

cardio burns manually, burns more calories per time spent than any other form of exercise. In other words, if I do hard cardio for an hour, I'm gonna burn more calories in that hour than if I lift weights, then if I do yoga, then if I do, you know, any other form of exercise, bar, Pilates, whatever. I'm burning more calories during that hour doing cardio. So that's sending a signal to my body saying, you need to become more efficient with your calorie burn. Here's the example I like to give people. Let's imagine tomorrow you go to the gas pump

and gas went from, you know, what is it now like average in the nation, 250 a gallon to $150 a gallon. That's a signal. The signal of $150 a gallon is telling you, you can't afford to use too much gas. So what's the, what's the, what do you think's gonna happen with car sales

very, very quickly? Right, decline. Either, well, they're gonna decline and people are gonna buy super efficient cars. In a very short period of time, the market will respond to that signal by creating cars with incredible gas mileage. Power, nobody's gonna give a shit about power or speed

because when you're, when you're trying to save money on gas and you need to drive to work, you know the speed limit is 65 anyway. You don't need to go zero to 16, faster than 30 seconds. It doesn't matter. You're going to want a car that's going to spend the least amount of gas to do the the job that that cars therefore, which is get me from point A to point B. That's what happens with cardio. Cardio's telling your body, we need to become efficient with these

calories. Because remember, your body, we need to become efficient with these calories, because remember your body is the result of thousands and thousands of generations of evolution, and most of them evolve during times of scarcity. And a body that burns tons of calories is no different than having a V8 truck with $150 a gallon gas. It doesn't make any sense. Your body is going to try to become super efficient. And on top of that, cardiovascular activity requires very little speed and it requires very little strength. All it needs is for you to move in the same whatever for long periods of time. So you just need to turn your body, your body literally turns into a Prius.

Well, yeah, it's a kind of piggyback on that analogy as far as like the the inner workings of the engine and everything else as far as like the timing belt, you know, distributor, like battery, like all these different things like inside the body, like I know we talked about this a long time ago about like healing your body and and and really like working on being as healthy as possible first because and that's something that you know, I've definitely made a focus and noticed just how the body naturally just wants to respond and and increase, you know, the metabolism, that response, like, it'll fire things back up to where everything starts to become more efficient again when I'm working out and I'm eating, you know, healthy again. Even when I was doing that and eating healthy, and there's these interruptions in that process because there's something in there

that is causing inflammation and is causing internal backup. So it's just something to consider. Like, you know, are you as healthy as you think you are? Well, I think part of the reason why we're so passionate about this is because most people that we would get that we're trying to lose body fat had been underfeeding their body nutritionally and over pushing it to get to that, get to that point.

So when we get a hold of them, most of them just running in, let's figure you run on credit. I'll give you an analogy, a different one than what Saughey. You get on a treadmill and run as hard as you possibly can for an hour. And maybe you burn about 500 calories give or take. But if you didn't do any running whatsoever, and all you spent time doing was building muscle, by the time you add three to five pounds of muscle, your body's in a burn in an additional three to 500 calories, almost every single day without doing any extra cardio. So building a metabolism, you're not going to, by doing cardio, you're not building your metabolism. By doing cardio, you're all doing is just burning, burning, burning, burning, burning,

and your body is getting more efficient, more efficient, more efficient. And how does it become more efficient? One of the first things it does is it will reduce your muscle mass. Muscle is expensive. Muscle is your engine. Get rid of mass. And you don't need lots of muscle to do lots of cardio. In fact, you're better off having less muscle.

Look at a long distance runner. They have very little muscle. There's stick legs, skinny arms. Especially in the upper body. Like you ask any personal trainer who's been in the industry for longer than five years, ask them what a cardio bunny is, and they'll tell you what a cardio bunny is.

This is a term we use to describe people who would come into the gym and do an hour of cardio every single day, and they all look the same. You know how they look? They're skinny fat. They all have, they're all flabby. They have a higher than they should percent body fat, and they have no muscle because their bodies have become extremely efficient at, you know, saving calories.

So that's the worst way to lose body fat. And I want to rephrase this whole, what's the best way to lose lower body fat? The best way to lose to lower body fat is the best way that you keep body fat off. It's not just to lose body fat. Because if you just want to lose it and you can give it shit if you gain it back, well, yeah, you can go do tons of cardio and starve yourself. You lose a lot of weight, right? Which I think that's very, very important that you said that because if we were to take

a study, which this is how people get so confused because someone who's trying to promote a fat burner or promote cardio or do that, it can show if I had two people, one is just strength training, one is doing cardio and it's a two week study, you know, and it's like, okay, you go balls the wall and cardio, you go balls the wall and weights after two weeks, the person that went after the cardio is going to show more calories burn in probably more body fat lost in those two weeks. Problem is it only takes about two to four weeks for the body to get very adapted to whatever cardio modality that we're doing,

and those returns begin to diminish. While the opposite happens with building muscle, it might have a slower start, so maybe out the gates, the cardio seems to be winning the race, but over time, the muscle, the building more muscle, building more muscle, actually in turn burns more fat, burns more fat, burns, and then like Sal is is saying keeps it off forever.

I wish there were studies like that existed, but that existed, but they don't. Like, you know what studies right now show? And there's a lot of them, that exercise alone is terrible, terrible for fat loss. They do study, there's lots of studies like this where they take people who change their eating habits versus people who change their eating habits and exercise.

Versus people who don't change anything and then they just exercise. And they show that when people just exercise, it's a horrible way to lose weight. But here's the problem with those studies. The people that just, and yes, you need to change your diet too, so I want to be clear there. But what the studies always use for exercise is cardio. None of these studies ever use proper resistance training. It's always cardio, cardio, cardio, 30 minutes of vigorous activity is what they say. To the point now where the government will recommend that, you go to your health insurance will tell you

30 minutes of vigorous activity, cardiovascular activity, because nobody studied resistance training and its effect on your hormone levels, on metabolism, on all the things that are being negatively affected by modern lifestyle. Resistance training by far, if your goal is just to lose body fat, the cornerstone of your workout program

literally should be resistance training. That should be the focus of it. Now that doesn't mean you can't do cardio, cardio's got health benefits. I want to add something that before you go that direction. So going back to what's the best way to lose body fat So in my experience of the clients that I've trained most all Americans, okay? Most there's always exceptions to the rule, but most all Americans are not

Fucking moving all day long. So one of the best things that has been a game changer for me to help clients out is to first Assess their week and see their current movement. So I would make everything. I've been doing this now for about six, seven years before the Fitbit was even around. So we were using like the Body Bug and tools like that. I would make all my clients buy one of these and then I would make them track for week. It's not to show that, oh, this is the most accurate tool in the market. It's to give me an idea of their movement. And that what I would see is like, wow, most of these people are moving less than four or five thousand steps in a day,

which is not even walking for an hour. If you walk for an hour straight, you'll get to like seven thousand steps. So that being said, I would take that and I'd say, okay, here's what we're going to do. We're going to take you from four thousand steps a a day on average to 6,000 steps a day. Not doing cardio, walking. That's it. Just increase by 10 to 20% where their current steps are at

and then add a resistance training three times a week. Those two things, and you'll walk, and if you just keep increasing the steps through walking throughout your day, being active, walking your dog, walking with your fiancee, or whatever after dinner, whatever you need to do to get these extra steps in the middle of the day while you have work for your lunch break instead of driving your car somewhere or walk somewhere, starting to create habits like this will make a huge

difference. More, more so than scheduling a half hour hour of intense cardio. That's right. So best way to lose body fat in terms of exercise, make resistance training, the cornerstone of your routine, build muscle, build strength, boost your metabolism. It's the only way for long term fat loss success. Next question is from bitch can move. She sure can. If all of you could never work in fitness again, what would you do instead?

Wow. You know what? We should give each other, like, predict what the other person would do. You ever want to be make fun of each other. Last time we did that, we did this stripper, the bus driver, so that's the bus driver. Are we going to answer this real, or we're going to answer

like kidding around? Because if we're kidding around, then we could do each other. Because then I know that you're everyone's going to give funny ones, right? I don't know. Yeah. Well, I give us your real one. Well, what are some jobs you almost did really do?

Are there other, was there ever something like a client almost got you to do or maybe you thought about it? I did. I've been professionally unfinished since I was 18. I know, but you never ever thought about stuff for me. I'll share it then, since it sounds like you don't know. Maybe it'll help out. I was real close to becoming a mortgage originator

so selling home loans, right? Bought all the books, I was all set to go to do. Was this before the crash? Or after? This was in 2000 and yeah, well, when I was gonna go to, oh, you mean the crash in homes? Oh, yeah, of course it was before because all my buddies were making crazy money.

Oh my God, it was crazy. Yeah, no, I have buddies that were making over a million dollars a year doing this. And to the point where they were telling me like, listen, I know you love what you do. I know you're making good money, but I'll pay you more money out of my own money just to get you to come over and do it. And at that point, I was like, I'd be stupid not to. So anyways, I almost did that. And so I could see myself doing something like that.

That would suck that right. it'd be so boring. Well yeah, I mean nothing's gonna compare, so you can't, if you have to, we have to separate ourselves from, we love what we do. We, you know, we wouldn't change anything to what if- You'd be a pastor. It's like, that's what my mom said. Y'all must word, and just say you're gonna

go become one at some point. That's what I can't let you brought that up. That's what I knew. My mom to this day thinks that that was my calling, right? You're supposed to be a pastor. Like, yeah, I don't know, maybe, Ma. Yeah. Maybe, maybe one day.

No, I never thought I would do that. She thought I was going to do that as a kid. That's because I like to talk. When I was really young, I wanted to be a lawyer. I would never want to do that now. I got scared away as soon as I saw the types of books and how many books you had to read on logs. That's no way.

I mean, I mean, I read a lot, but I have to read something I'm very passionate and excited about, and I'm not passionate about the law, so that wouldn't work for me. I wanted to be an architect, so I was in drafting class, and I thought I was going to be an architect. I could potentially do something like that.

I love to draw. I love houses. I love architecture. So, um, and there's good money in it. I think that's something that I could have seen myself doing. If my pump crash blew up fitness industry, you just went away. Didn't even exist. No one cared about you're getting in shape or we created the magic pill and everybody

was super ripped and fit. Um, then I would probably have to do something the next day to get my off and running in sales something, because I like to talk to people and I like people, so it's just natural for me. Yeah. For me, that's a tough one. I think, I used to think you're stripper, but that's for you.

I don't think anyone wants to see me naked anymore. Well, I'm getting old now. You can't damn it, dude. I don't want you to do that old stripper. You have to be able to damn it. If stripping, I'm getting old now. You can't dance to that old stripper. You have to be able to dance. If stripping was just getting naked, yeah. All you gotta do is the mock arena. I feel like I would be a better dancer naked than cloth.

You think so? Yeah, I think so. I don't think it changes anything. I don't think it's all the gyrenees. It clothes get in your way. Yeah, your big gyreneer. Justin would be a good stripper. He can move.

I would bring the house down. Yeah, he does a good shake. I feel a lot of it. We'll tell us big moments house, what would you a good stripper. He can move. I would bring the house down. Yeah, he does a sh- he does a good shake Well, tell us big moments house. What would you do? Yeah, what I do for my work? Yeah Well at first I wanted to be a rock star I mean like that was like real thought in my head. That'd be my job. That's your first job Yeah, so you'd be broke. Yeah, we'd be brought. No, I went through that whole process like I got a van You know like we got all this equipment and we toured you had a van? Yeah, we brought no, I went through that whole process like got a van, you know, like we got all this equipment and we toured like you had a van Yeah, oh shit. Yeah, a van. We had like a trailer attached that we did tour we didn't tour anywhere far

We would like you know to like Indiana and like all the like surrounding bordered like states you guys make anyone Like no just enough to get by like just enough to get by, just enough to pay the gas. Yeah, pay the gas, that was it. Was it one? It was so much fun. It was so much fun. And I enjoyed the shit out of it, but I knew that I was like, wow,

we have a lot of work to do. You know, I was the only one that was really business minded in the group about scheduling and booking these types of events and venues and stuff. And I just got burned out doing that because I was like, man, nobody else is putting effort into this. And like what we saw now having that experience, do you think there are a lot of unknown bands because the guys are extremely talented, but absolutely retarded when I get this 100% really so much talent out there, nobody will ever know about.

Wow. And that's a statement I'll stand by because. That's why these production companies exist, man. They're just so, and why do you see how they, they're so predatory, you know, that whole business, like you get somebody coming in to produce them or to manage them and they just like, they pray off of that because their mind is all about like,

I wanna be like make the best music ever. My fans love me and it's like, no dude, how are you making money? Yeah. How's that working out for you? And nobody really, not a lot. I mean, there's some smart guys out there that are making moves that,

but even that industry is dead. You know, like, it's a tough, tough industry to get into and actually make a name for yourself anymore and actually make money out of it. It can be pretty sleazy too. Oh my God. Yeah, I would hate that. It's crazy.

So actually I had real thoughts in that direction pulled out of that almost immediately. And then I don't know, I messed around with ideas of like getting into film and what else was that? I was actually thinking of being like a forced ranger at one time. A forced ranger? That could be cool, job. It could be a cool job, dude.

I love the outdoors. You didn't even have to wear the bear attack. You don't think that's carried away? Well, now that. Yeah, I don't know. He'd be smoking the bear, bro. I want to hear all South's philanthropist all his ideas because you know that he's going to kiss

all the audience's ass right now. I would give all my time away and save children all over the world. Oh wow, that would be good. Let's hear it. First of all, I'd have to pay the bills still, dude. Okay, good, you're gonna keep it real, then. You do the world. Okay, you're gonna keep it real.

You get a better place. That's what I would do if I had all the money that I needed. Okay, then I could pick whatever. I see. I, you know, psychiatrist would have been a cool job. Ooh, I wanted to be a counselor with it at one point. That's interesting. No, psychiatrist or a surgeon, orthopedic surgeon, I actually

thought about that for a quick second, or a professor, a professor on a subject that I enjoy, like history or science or economics, just because I love teaching people. I love having people that I can talk to and teach and discuss ideas and stuff like that. I think it'd be a lot of fun. It's pretty much it. Nothing too exciting.

I like the therapist idea, because that's something I could do for sure. What we do right now, I kind of feel like. Sometimes I feel that way. The people that we get to talk to on a regular basis, most people are asking you to step in. I was our whole training career. We've been so.

Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. The only other career I've ever had in Tolinon, that wasn't fitness, was I had a, I want to say an eight-month stint in banking, where I was like, I was a premier banker for Bank of America. And this is where you handle like the, you know,

the wealthy clients of the bank or whatever. And you're supposed to help them with, you know, certain types of investments and directing them in the right way and helping them manage their money and get them loans and stuff like that. And it was torture. It was, it was literal torture. I'd go to work.

I would dive in. Bro, I would go to this bank and it'd sit at my desk and at least three times a day One of the staff members would go shh to me because I'm loud. Oh, my god. You imagine me in a bank I imagine my voice in a bank talking on the phone with someone or try to talk to a customer Mrs. Johnson, I'm too fucking loud. I get in my head right away. I got this like great bank of America Kermit commercial Hi Welcome to Bank of America Kermit commercial. I was like, Hi.

Welcome to Bank of America. Yeah. Give me your money. You know, someone said the other day, someone DM me instead of sound like, what's that guy's name? Oh Ray Romano. Ray Romano.

You do. And then I listen to him and I'm like, fuck, I can't. Yeah, you do. I can't deny that. You do kind of sound like him for sure. I would probably hop back if I absolutely needed to make money right away.

I'd probably get back into marijuana, even though I would have no desire to do that at all, dude. I absolutely, well you would kill it in there. Well, you didn't know all the ins and outs. Right, that's the only reason why, right? If it's, that's what I'm trying to think about. Are we picking things up? Well, when I was a kid, I liked the idea

of being a veterinarian, and I really love that idea because I love animals and everything, but then realize all the shit you have to do. Yeah, yeah, there's like sick animals I would like that would like tear me up man. Yeah, you're just like dealing with all these like decrepit Oh, I can't handle I cannot handle sick animals and sick children It's just my wife does it kills me it destroys me Yeah, I'll tell you what though if I couldn't do mind pump I'd still want to work with you guys doing something else. Fuck yeah, oh would I would sell lemonade with you guys on the corner. We'd make it. Oh

Fill it first to mess lemonade Just just just got a shit down We're not putting him in the best. He's not a lemonade ever. He's not in charge of the formula He's not how cook a cold Just like hey guys I got the, that's gonna totally take off. Every customer's gonna be here. Everybody's gonna be hooked. We'd have a real strong first quarter.

That's a drop enough. All right, Doug, bring it on. Next question is from Carice Lee. What role do you think personal trauma plays in disordered eating? Oh, huge role. Huge role. That is the role.

Yeah. If you're talking about truly, truly disordered eating, that's probably the biggest thing. I would even go further to say that most all of our insecurities and even those of us that don't have full-blown, you know, air quotes, eating disorders, I think that all the things that drive us to eat certain ways or to push ourselves in the gym is driven through insecurities. And those insecurities are normally rooted from sort of, sort of, and trauma is a strong word because not everybody went through like a crazy traumatic experience.

But I do believe that, you know, in those formative years of five to 15 years old, there's been... Lisa imprint. Right, it's left imprint on us that now have formed us and shaped us into adults that tend to dictate the way we eat, the way we train, the way we look at ourselves. Bro, I remember one specific instance for myself. Literally, and it was throughout my life as a kid, I was called skinny and what is a green bean or stick bean or bean pole or whatever. I was called all these different string bean. Yeah, green beans are string string. That's always to be called delicious.

Because I was called at the same thing. I was called all these different things and that definitely played a role in my how I ate which was then I just stuffed the shit out of myself because I wanted a game way but I remember one instance in particular I don't know if you guys remember any particular instances but I remember one in particular we were at a family member's house she had a swimming pool and so what we used to do in the summertime is we'd all gather there and we'd all go swimming and we'd barbeque and it was a great time and my cousins were all there. We have a big family so there'd be like 30 to 50 people there.

And it was just something that I always look forward to especially in the summertime. And I'll never forget, I get there with my parents and we're all hanging out and everybody's like, okay, let's go swimming. So I grab my bathing suit and I go in the bathroom to change. And I'm probably 11 or 12 at this time. So I'm starting to get into that,

those formidable ages where you start to go through puberty and you're already feeling uncomfortable, right? I walk out of the bathroom with my bathing suit and no shirt on and my aunt sees me because she's down the hall and she makes this face like this very concern face. There wasn't like a teasing face. It was like genuine concern.

She looked at me and she was like, she was, you need to eat more food. And it really fucking hit me. I'll never forget it. Literally, I can remember what she looked like, where I was. And she said that to me. And fucking devastated me that the way I looked caused somebody to have that kind of response. Now my aunt, who was young, she was closer to me in age, so it wasn't like she was an adult. I don't think she was an adult. She was probably, she was definitely

a teenager. So it wasn't like she was aware that, you know, that would be, that would be a bad thing to say. And she's a loving woman. I know her very well or. Right, she didn't mean it. She would, she wouldn't mean harm. She wasn't even being to mean to me. Which I think is what happens, right? So this happens to so many of us that it doesn't always have to be this traumatic, right? It wasn't like something like, it did scar you in a sense for life,

but it wasn't like this, somebody dies or something. In fact, it beat you in a room. It's like it doesn't always have to be this crazy over the top thing, but it formed you. In fact, if someone was straight up being mean to me, it would have definitely hurt me, but I don't think it would have affected me the same,

because when someone's being mean to you, I could always dismiss it as, well, they're just being mean to me, and they're being assholes, right? This was like just a normal thing, and she made that face, said that to me, and I'd never forgot it. And I remember that specifically,

because really after that is when I really became super motivated to work out and take supplements. And I tell you remember now, yeah, you bring that up, like it was that summer camp and of course summer camp. So one of those things like you get out and you get into the lake and you're around a bunch of kids that are like, you know, kids being kids,

the first thing I do is laser in on anything that they can to find, you know, on your body that sticks out or something They could pick on you about and I just remember because I was I mean, I was like decently muscular and you know like shredded and what not but like my I was very like bony and like my shoulders like really like pronounced like because I was like smaller than I was developing like it was like very like it stuck out. Like I had these two like two bones up here, you know, my shoulders that were just like very visible and like these kids were just like roast me on it. And that on top of you know, being like the widest like like ghost kid out there, you know, I don't know that going for me. like ghost kid out there. You know, I had all that going for me. And so I was just like, that carried with me into it. I know that's what motivated me to start lifting weights

because I wanted to build muscle on top of that to sort of shell myself. Well, that's talking about all of our insecurities would draw us to workout. I believe too that when you look at, and this is hard for people to do. So, and I, because I still remember the phases of processing it. This is how weird is it.

So, to look back. So, I challenge people to try and do this. And this is a process that we'll never end for you because here I am in 15 plus years in fitness and I still have to do this to myself. And I'll give you an example when there's foods or things that I gravitate towards and I catch myself saying like, oh, I love this

or oh, I wouldn't let go of it. Or there's no way I'm not having that or I need that in my diet. A lot of people just accept that and they don't actually unpack it and try and figure out where did that come from? Like why am I so attached to donuts or why am I so attached to diet soda

or why am I so attached to pancakes or why do I have to have chips or why do I need wine to diet soda, or why am I so attached to pancakes? Or why do I have to have chips? Or why do I need wine? Like, where did that stem from? Like, where did that start that you have now attached it to part of who you are? It's just a fucking food. It's just fuel.

It's just fuel that you're consuming. And yeah, sure, it tastes good. But a lot of the why it tastes good is because you've trained yourself to think it tastes so damn good. And what was it that started that and learning to unpack that and find out where? And most of the time it goes all the way back. I remember the memories of Texas. Goes back deep, man.

I remember the phases. I remember the phases of awareness with us. I literally, you know, Alvesana became very focused on lifting weights and eating more and taking supplements. And I remember, I don't remember who it was that told me this. I want to say it was my mom. And she was like, you know, you're very insecure about, you know, being skinny.

And I remember thinking like, no, I'm not. Like totally, totally in denial, so in denial that I didn't even, when she said that to me, it was almost offensive. And it took me so long to start to identify or at least acknowledge that that may be an issue. And it took me years after that to, after acknowledged it,

to actually make changes and to see that I was harming myself in certain ways. It took a long time because what happens is, here's what happens, when you have some kind of personal trauma that makes you not like yourself, you start treating yourself like you don't like yourself. Okay, so here you are, you're a person who's getting teased because you're chubby, right?

You're growing up and you're chubby and people are calling you chubby and they're saying you're fat and whatever. And now you're an adult and you're really overweight and some people would say, well, you were teased so much for being chubby, you would think that you would just be, you know, really skinny, and that's not true, because what happened to that individual is they started to hate themselves. Right, and then they revolt.

You hate your, not only revolt, but how do you treat something when you hate it? When you don't like something, how do you treat it? You treat it like shit. And if you don't like yourself, you start to treat yourself like shit, and it's not something that you're aware of, it's not like you're thinking yourself,

I'm gonna treat myself like garbage. No, it's the revolting part. It's just you're saying you're saying fuck this I don't only want to focus on it because you got to care. Yeah, I've I had client I've had so many clients that were you know very overweight right over 80 pounds overweight and They would tell me they'd actually confided me and say I never look in the mirror I actually had clients that would tell me that more More, more, that was, I remember. That was shocking. We talked about this on an episode a long time ago and I remember that being one of the things

that I became a regular thing that I asked people because I didn't realize how common it was until years of training. And then I remember one after another and then I thought, whoa, most of these people that once they get to everyone and everyone I feel like kind of has their point where They they get to the point where they put on so much weight that they absolutely do not want to see themselves in the mirror

And they avoid it and it's very common. It is very very common for that and you just you don't you don't you don't want to look at you don't want to Accept it. You don't want to think about it. You're partially in denial. You're saying you hate yourself over it. You're revolting from it. All that's going on. Yeah, if you hate yourself, there's no way you could possibly take care of yourself. You're never going to want to take care of something you hate. And what ends up happening through this process of self hate

is you don't take care of yourself. You don't take care of yourself. You don't take care of yourself. You hate yourself. You hate yourself. You hate yourself. And at some point, you need reprieve. At some yourself, you don't take care of yourself, you don't take care of yourself, you hate yourself, you hate yourself, you hate yourself. And at some point you need reprieve, at some point you need to break,

because nobody, it's exhausting to be in that cycle of self-hatred. And so what you're looking for is a momentary period of reprieve, and what gives that to you? Eating that cheeseburger, eating that donut, doing that thing that you know isn't good for you, you don't care because you hate yourself anyway, but at the moment, at that cheeseburger, eating that doughnut, doing that thing that you know isn't good for you, and you don't care because you hate yourself anyway, but at the moment, at that one moment, you get this relief from feeling shitty,

and this cycle continues and continues and continues. So you have to identify that in yourself, you have to become determined with it and be honest, you have to literally look in the mirror and say to yourself like, okay, I hate myself, and that's why I'm treating myself this way, I need to change that. Once you can change that, everything else becomes a lot easier.

And but it does take time and be okay with that. Be okay with it taking time. Won't happen overnight. And I think a lot of people, they want something to happen overnight because again, because they hate themselves so much. Like if I just fucking change, I won't hate myself anymore. And it doesn't work that way. I'm fortunate. I'll automate them. Yeah, I won't hate myself anymore. And it doesn't work that way. I'm fortunate.

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