Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 657: Best Periodization Protocols, Adjusting Training When on Steroids vs Natural, Building a Social Media Following & MORE

Episode Date: December 8, 2017

Kimera-Quah! In this episode of Quah, sponsored by Kimera Koffee (kimerakoffee.com, code "mindpump" for 10% off), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about building a following on social media without being consumed, periodization within the same week vs. periodization for weeks on end, how they fit into Gretchen Rubin’s personality framework and how to alter frequency of MAPS Aesthetic if running it on gear vs. natural. Don’t put Justin in a corner (4:46) Doug on the “hot seat” segment (9:38) We do a lot of crazy shit to win (10:33) The origins of the QUAH! (22:51) Quah question #1 – How do you build a following on social media without being consumed? (25:27) Be consistent  Schedule and plan your posts/content Quah question #2 – Periodization within the same week vs. periodization for weeks on end? (38:28) Quah question #3 – Are you familiar with Gretchen Rubin’s personality framework? How do you guys fit in? (45:30) Quah question #4 - How would you alter frequency of MAPS Aesthetic if running it on gear vs. natural? (53:15) Related Links/Products Mentioned: Kimera Koffee (Official Mind Pump Sponsor) Organifi (Official Mind Pump sponsor) Use the code “mindpump” for 20% off Four Sigmatic (Official Mind Pump sponsor) Use the discount code “mindpump” for 15% off of your first order of health & energy boosting mushroom products Mind Pump Ep. 652 - Kimera Koffee Quah(Justin's son stealing story) Transgender weightlifter Laurel Hubbard avoids interviews after silver medals Transgender MMA Fighter Destroys Female Opponent Irresistible: The Rise of Addictive Technology and the Business of Keeping Us Hooked – Adam Alter (book) Unplugged: Evolve from Technology to Upgrade Your Fitness, Performance, & Consciousness – Brian MacKenzie and Dr. Andy Galpin (book) Social Networking Sites and Addiction: Ten Lessons Learned Ep 649-Chris "Drama" Pfaff - Mind Pump Media Periodization Four Tendencies - Gretchen Rubin Show Notes Ep 623 – Live from the Spartan Championship in Lake Tahoe with Josh Trent People Mentioned: Laurel Hubbard Fallon Fox (@FallonFox)  Twitter Chris "Drama" Pfaff (@drama)  Instagram Gretchen Rubin (@gretchenrubin)  Twitter Josh Trent (@WellnessForce)  Twitter/Instagram Would you like to be coached by Sal, Adam & Justin? You can get 30 days of virtual coaching from them for FREE at www.mindpumpmedia.com. Get our newest program, MAPS Prime Pro, which shows you how to self assess and correct muscle recruitment patterns that cause pain and impede performance and gains. Get it at www.mindpumpmedia.com! Get MAPS Prime, MAPS Anywhere, MAPS Anabolic, MAPS Performance, MAPS Aesthetic, the Butt Builder Blueprint, the Sexy Athlete Mod AND KB4A (The MAPS Super Bundle) packaged together at a substantial DISCOUNT at www.mindpumpmedia.com. Make EVERY workout better with MAPS Prime, the only pre-workout you need… it is now available at mindpumpmedia.com Have Sal, Adam & Justin personally train you via video instruction on our YouTube channel, Mind Pump TV. Be sure to Subscribe for updates. Also check out Thrive Market! Thrive Market makes purchasing organic, non-GMO affordable. With prices up to 50% off retail, Thrive Market blows away most conventional, non-organic foods. PLUS, they offer a NO RISK way to get started which includes: 1. One FREE month’s membership 2. $20 Off your first three purchases of $49 or more (That’s $60 off total!) 3. Free shipping on orders of $49 or more Get your Kimera Koffee at www.kimerakoffee.com, code "mindpump" for 10% off! Get Organifi, certified organic greens, protein, probiotics, etc at www.organifi.com Use the code “mindpump” for 20% off. Go to foursigmatic.com/mindpump and use the discount code “mindpump” for 15% off of your first order of health & energy boosting mushroom products. Add to the incredible brain enhancing effect of Kimera Koffee with www.brain.fm/mindpump 10 Free sessions! Music for the brain for incredible focus, sleep and naps! Also includes 20% if you purchase! Please subscribe, rate and review this show! Each week our favorite reviewers are announced on the show and sent Mind Pump T-shirts! Have questions for Mind Pump? Each Monday on Instagram (@mindpumpmedia) look for the QUAH post and input your question there. (Sal, Adam & Justin will answer as many questions as they can)

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Don't get yourself. Then we talked about a transgender woman shattering weightlifting records. Bullshit. And the elephant in the room. And then we also talked about the origin of... Oh yeah. Qua.

This is a crazy episode. We got into some deeper shit. We did. We touched on steroids today. We touched on a few quite a few things. Last thing, so the first question, our legs out. So the first question was, someone wants to know, how do you build a following on social media without becoming consumed?

It's like Justin can never go to the bathroom without his phone. So I feel like that question was reflected towards him. When I do all my work. The second question was, periodization, is it better to do it within the same week or do it for weeks on end? In other words, stay in a phase for a few weeks

versus changing workouts every single time. Our maps programs tend to be periodized for weeks on end. We explained why in this episode. The next question was, are we familiar with Gretchen Rubin's personality framework? None of us were. Yeah, and we weren't, but just them brought it up. And it turns out I'm a questioner.

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Merry Christmas. Let's take care of that cold sale. You know what's funny is that all of us are kind of like this to an extent, right? We don't like, like we don't like being told what to do. That too, but 100% right. Just in. Wow.

Like a lot. It's so bad. He's the worst. Oh, the worst. He's so bad that if you want him to do something, tell him to not do it and he will literally do it because you told him not to. I hate that you guys know that.

It's so funny. It's like so. The best was, the best was that you were for me for years. I told Salah time I read Lacks, I know Justice Personality, he'll be fine. How many times I tell you that before, right? Just read Lacks.

The best was at the airport that one time when we were getting aligned to it. You guys totally manipulated me. I was good, that was hilarious. We were getting aligned to you guys so he manipulated via that was hilarious. We were getting a line to get you know to go through the line and get checked or whatever and for whatever reason it's turned into this thing where let's you can pick the faster line so far I've lost every time. I don't know Adam got like some magic like he just picks the right line I would get the slow line even if it's short. So anyway Adam pick gets in line and Justin

goes right behind him Yeah, I say so to run away as I just did this is the line Yeah, I tell him I say just this is a line. It's gonna go faster. You're right. So he's they are all right Cool, so he gets a line like god just he was gonna do what he tells you Seed that just like Totally because then he then he started to go back and he's like standing in the middle of the two lines Oh, no, it totally did, because then he started to go back and he's like standing in the middle of the two lines. I don't want to make Sal right about this.

So then he starts to come over to my line and then Adam's like, oh, are they gonna do a Sal at those? And then he's like, stuck, like, he's like, what do I do? Dude, it was the funniest. You're in the middle lane. It was the funniest. Oh, shit. It's something else about you, Justin,

that I was, so I listened to, I don't know an episode number it was, the one where we talked about where your son got was took your your cousin's toys Oh, yeah, I am so slow maneuver is a 6.54 dog. I'm a little bird. I don't know. I think it's one of the last ones so I was listening to it and I realized like how much it actually bothered It like really really bothered you. Oh, I could totally pick up on that Yeah, and you could tell because it's his son, right? like how much it actually bothered, it really, really bothered you. Oh, I could totally pick up on that. Yeah, and you could tell,

because it's his son, right? So you identify, like it's, Bet you feel like you're stealing yourself. Yeah. Well, it just goes as show, totally what I felt like. It just goes to show you the level, like how much, just in value's integrity.

So much so that something small, like a kid, like kids do that all the time. Right, and then he can't control. And yeah, but you, to you, it was like fundamentally like this thing got a chalkboard. Yeah, I was listening to the episode in the car and the way here, I was like, oh shit, which is, I mean, that's a good sign.

I mean, when you're a man that values integrity so much that, the smallest lack of integrity for you is a big deal. Well, it's also because I think he's, one of those parents, and I think some parents are incredible at this and some of them not so much. He looks at his kid like it's a direct reflection of himself. And I feel like some parents just aren't that way. I think some parents are just like, oh, they're going to be who they are going to be and

blah, blah, blah. Everyone finds their own way. But just he just values it so much like, you know, I feel like, I know when we first met, you know, because I'm a fast talker, right? As I talk a lot and fast. I know you told me this afterwards you looked at me like I don't trust this I mean Such a slick talker. Yeah, and because I mean you value honestly so much that like if somebody even you know Bullshit's a little bit or whatever you feel that way I got done with them. Yeah, exactly

Do you remember if it's like to my detriment too, right? It's a strength and a weakness, you know? Well, but it's also it's also your good person like, you know, when I hear something like that like fuck this somebody could trust to the grave. You know, I mean, do you think it? How long do you think it took you to warm up to each of us? Who was it harder? Me or him? Do you remember? Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, yeah, I think I was more open because I was like, I was like, teach me your ways. You know, I was like really like looking up to you coming into the industry because I was like,

I came in with like total like green horn. Like I trained myself, but I realized quickly I was like, I don't know shit, you know, I don't know how to train people and like coach, like your average person. So I think I was just like, whenever I'm going into something like that, that's like a monumental shift in like, it's just industry, I don't know anything about.

I'm not the kind of person that's gonna come in with any kind of pride at all. Like I just can't do it. So totally more open mind of you. Sal, I'm kinda like, okay, you know, this guy, I see what's he all about, you know, cause I see these guys. He kinda like, okay, you know, this guy. I see what's he all about, you know, because he's got his system, you know, we were working on something, you know.

He's really quick, like, ah, you know, he's coming at me fast and hot. And I'm like, slow down, pal. You know, I just met you. Yeah. So that kind of was the vibe. I wasn't trying to sleep with you. If I was on a slow down, listen, I don't like it manipulated it to do in weird things.

All my flags are coming out. I really want to do that thing with Doug. I like to do that. The Doug scenarios. I think you would be able to fix this. Yeah, you know what I'd be funny too is maybe we even have some of our forum give suggestions and maybe we can even pull from them. So Taylor can make some up. So what this is is basically, you know, we would someone be interviewing Doug and would ask him in the following scenarios, who would you rather have with you between Adam? You can only bring one with you. Yeah, here's your scenario.

You gotta go in a nightclub, you have to get a girl's phone number or you're gonna get a gang fight or whatever. Right. And he has to pick one of us right and why like you I'm gonna pick I'm gonna pick sound wave for these ants right. I think it'll be hilarious. So I think it'd be great We'll have we'll definitely have Taylor start working on it and and then a wet t-shirt contest Justin I got the cakes. I got the titties. Get the more milk in there.

Oh my god. Jesus. Excuse me. Excuse me. So you guys ready to hear something? I'm going to read something to you guys. So Laurel Hubbard just sat new high marks in the world Master's Games in Auckland Saturday snatching 131 kilograms and lifting 149 in the

clean and jerk for a total of 280 kilos. This is reported by the New Zealand herald. She broke shattered all these records. Now there's something else that's interesting about this. There's a catch to this. She used to compete in the sport as a man. Oh, yeah, so, and then the record skipped. Yeah.

So, so this, so when she was, he, I don't know what the name was, but she competed in weightlifting. See, I'm completely pro. This is such a fucking way. I'm completely pro that you can do that. I just don't think that you should be able to win awards that way. I just don't, I think it's not fair. You know, it's crazy not fucking fair. No, it's crazy. It's not fucking fair.

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our fiber is aosterone. Yes, yes. But here's the thing, it's crazy to me that we've reached a point in society where we're so afraid of stating the obvious. Yes, yeah. That we're just, we're gonna fucking pretend. Yeah.

You know what I mean? We're gonna pretend like there's a new reality. Like, it was, you know, she was a biological man who competed in a weightlifting. Here's what I fear. Got a sex chair. Here's what I fear. Now we're convinced.

I can't have a baby. Well, I, what I fear from that is that what that sends is now sends, you know, kids that are younger that are playing sports seeing that as an advantage and and that playing in the part of their decision and maybe even potentially wanting to do that. It could you know it could some people may say you're crazy but I say not why people that want to be bad. If yes do some shit. Oh okay people already that are want to be professional athletes at least 99% of them are completely very aware of that it's not ideal for their body. They're doing things for those women that take male hormones and compete. Right.

So, why would it be any different? Yeah, so, and you know, it's funny about this. Especially if you don't like fully identify with one sex or not. What's funny about this is people will actually debate, and I fucking love it when I hear them, they'll debate that it doesn't, oh no, it doesn't make a difference. She's on female hormones. Her testosterone has been blocked for, you know, five years or whatever. It doesn't make a difference. Bull fucking shit. If it, if it didn't make a difference, you would see a lot more transgender men competing in winning events too, but you don't, you're not, you're not saying, I'm not reading right now, like, you know, John Smith just crushed powerlifting

records. Used to be a woman. Right. Not gonna fucking happen. Yeah, that's not it's not gonna happen. So it's crazy. What's really crazy to me is that I don't see a lot of women getting pissed. I was a chick. I'd be pissed. Right. Like what the fuck are you doing?

Yeah, that's not my sport. Yeah, that's how the hell did that happen? Yeah, that's not fair. That's like the ultimate sexism. That's like, you know, patriarchy right there. It's flipped. That's it. That's weird. We rule. That'll do. Ultimate sexism that's like you know patriarchy right there

We rule that'll do we win that our shit. We win it If you were a girl I'd be so angry Anyway, it's it's the extreme really we go again We went one way we were the other way. 20, 30 years ago we were so far the other way. Now we're gone the other in the spectrum now. Hopefully we find some one in the middle. It's just like I said, people are so afraid of offending anybody. Now they're going to just totally where is this where is this legal?

This isn't legal and all not all federations at all. This was international. Okay. Yeah, but there's not some I bet you there's some organizations. That this is not the world master games. They so I think if I'm not mistaken the Olympics, I'm not sure. I don't I won't even say it, but I think the Olympic weightlifting committee said that. Yeah, this is cool. I really, it's shocking to me, but I really think they're just afraid of the backlash. Of course. Yeah, of course. Yeah, I'm saying it's like, yeah.

And so, especially now that they give the word out, you gotta be thinking to yourself, like, fuck, we just, we're not fair. Bro, hi, yeah. And you know what? There was, who was, I don't remember her name, but there was a transgender woman that was fighting in MMA. MMA, yeah, I hear about that. Did you see that? So have you seen those fights? No, but I heard it was not. She fucked them up. And not like, I mean, again, used to be a man, right? Goes through the sex change, then enters into MMA, which is a fight. As a female.

Sorry, hold on a second. Okay, there's definitely individual variances. I know there's a woman that can beat up men. Okay, I'm sure Round of Rousey could beat the fuck out of most guys or whatever. There's all these individual variances, but you take 100 men, you take 100 women, you put them in a fucking room

and you say, all right, everybody fight to death. My money's on the guy. I'm gonna put money on you. It's just what we do. There's nothing sexist about that. I wanna make money. You're saying like, am I gonna bet? I gotta make my money.

We're just good at it. We're good at fighting. We're bigger, stronger, aggressive, whatever. Yeah. So I watched the videos of this transgender woman fighting these other girls, and she wasn't like out-technicking them. It wasn't like it was like skill.

It was like manhandedly like, just like brutal, just fists and buzz. Yeah, holding a mask. Shit. No. Oh yeah, I can't, I don't, I don't feel good about it. That would be so angry if I was a woman. I still feel good. You imagine you're like, you're training hello hard. Right, I imagine being the athlete't feel good about that would be so angry if I was a woman you imagine you're like your training hell hard right

I'm assuming the athlete who's got a fighter Yeah, that's what I'm saying that's not cool like you're training your whole life You're like ready like fuck I'm gonna compete in this like all right. Here's your opponent. It's fucking you know Justin with a wig yeah, I come in just like holy shit. I'm ready I'm not gonna fight you dude You're in my sports from, ready? No, man. See, now people get mad at.

Again, here's a deal. Do what you want, man. It's your body and whatever. I don't think I think you should have equal rights all across the board. But when it comes to competing, like, there's a reason why men and women are separate in sports. There are no competitions or very few competitions,

physical ones where men and women compete against each other because there's inherent advantage. Do you think we'll eventually see women in the NFL? What? I mean, she'd have to be... We had... She'd have to be in the girls' honor team in high school. In high school, yeah.

We had in college every once in a while. But they didn't stand the team like after. It just became a thing where it was tough because, not at the highest level, dude. Yeah. Well, yeah, and it was like, what I'm saying is like, I agree with you, right? I agree, that's just seems ridiculous,

but so does what we're talking about right now. Well, if one's good at, you have to make it, God bless you, but you got to work your ass out. There's no way I could even sneeze about getting in the NFL. And I played all the way through college and knew, like the NFL is the one percent of the one percent.

That's the thing, like, at the highest highest level, they're freaks. At the highest highest level, what you're dealing with are the best of the best within the gender of male. And it's very, very aggressive. Yeah, and the male gender physically is just stronger, more aggressive, taller, bigger,

all that stuff. So when you're dealing with the best of the best there, the best of the best and the female category for physical, especially for sports like football and stuff like that, it's not going to be at that level. Now, there's individual variances because I, like I said, if I handpick a team of women and I handpick of team of men, I can construct a female team that'll be the male team, of course, but yeah, no, it's not fair, dude. It's not fair. So anyway, so this woman competed as a man,

won no records as a man, then decided, you know, whatever, for whatever reason was transgender. Now I'm gonna compete again. I wanna know what goes through a person's mind at that point, you know, don't you think to yourself, like, eh, it's not fair. Yeah, or maybe other things are more important in my life right now.

Yeah, I'm going through a lot. That can't be. I'm changing a lot. Like to me, I just feel like maybe competing is just distraction from this thing I'm trying to work on. Yeah. I mean, you're completely changing. Or they're just like, I've dominated everybody

in the mail side, you know, let's try. That's what, so my fear, like I said, is that I feel like, you know, do people do a lot. That's what so my fear like I said is that I feel like you know Dude people do a lot of crazy shit to win. Yeah, you know, I'm saying a lot of fucking You're not you're not wrong and if you if we start doing I'm strong if we glamorize it and we reward it and we talk about it So like that you I guarantee there'll be some people that do it for those reasons. Yeah, maybe it's not a majority Bum whatever exactly the end of day, like you somebody that will cross

somebody's fucking mind, like somebody who's already feels, like I said, that doesn't really fully identify with my sex, right? Or maybe they're just super obsessed with winning. And this happens all the time. People do crazy things to their bodies to win anyway. And so I can see what you're saying. Somebody could be like, hey, look, I'm just gonna compete as a woman because my chances are,

and you know what happens in bodybuilding? In bodybuilding, you have men that can't win in the non-drug tested events, so they go into the natural events taking steroids so they can win. You know what I mean? Just whatever they can do to win, it's fucked up. It's just like this is where the lines get kind of blurred for me.

You know, cause like teach their own. You know, I'm all for celebrating. You know, you want to be, you know, different sex. That's totally great. You know, if that's what makes you happy and all that. But like when we start talking about this kind of stuff, it gets like, oh, I don't know. Yeah.

I just think it's 100%. Like I said, Oh, it's taboo nobody wants to talk about it, but the end of the day. So it gets ridiculous. It's common sense and people are, they're taking common sense and they're throwing it away and how the fact that people even make arguments

against this to me is silly. And again, I'd like to, I mean, again, there's no female, you know, or excuse me, male transgenders, winning at top levels, because this isn't just the local weightlifting event. Like, okay fine, if it's a local, you know, the Gilroy,

the standard weightlifting. Yeah, this was, these were records. So now there's a record that's set in the master's category of weightlifting and some biological females, and look at them and be like, okay, that's the record I have to beat. Yeah.

And it was set by a by someone who was born a biological man who had all the advantages of growing up. And then there's an argument to say, well, what if the hormones are changed before puberty? You know, this isn't a case like that. This is a person who was a biological man through adulthood had all those changes. That's even greater.

That's already the goal of the muscle. Yeah, and we've talked about, I mean, we don't even know about like the whole hyperplasia thing and the ability for us to have created more. If you've been training as a male for 20 or 30 years. I guarantee you, you take testosterone, you get, you remove testosterone from all men after they were adults and they're still going to be stronger than women. They're still going to be stronger than the average women.

It's just, it's just how we all frame of what's still there. Not just a frame, there's a lot of, there's a lot of factors. There's a lot of different factors. There's a central nervous system and how that fires and all these different things. So anyway, hilarious. I thought that was very interesting. I would love to see the feminists get, I don't know why the feminists are so quiet. It seems like such an obvious issue for feminists

to be angry about, doesn't it? I don't know. I would get pissed. Yeah. Don't you think I'd be like, wait a minute, you know, you came over here, you transitioned, and now you're taking opportunities away from these biological women who've been training their whole lives. And I don't know, I feel like it would be an issue that would be brought.

I definitely feel like the female athlete would feel that way for sure. I definitely think if you're a female and you're an athlete, you would agree. I would think, you know what I'm saying? I guess everyone teach their own, whatever, but I think that most people would be like, yeah, that's kind of fucked up. This is what I love to do, this would agree. I would think, you know what I'm saying? I guess everyone teach their own, whatever, but I think that most people would be like, yeah, that's kind of fucked up.

This is what I love to do. This is my sport I put out. And then if I had no, I'd go against somebody who was a man for 30 years and then switched over. It's different, not my fair. The MMA one was just fucking weird. That's just, yeah, I can't imagine. I just, that's just, is she still in the MMA?

I don't know. I'm pretty, I mean, I'm sure she won't be fighting the UFC because I'm pretty sure Dana White was not gonna sign, you know, sign her. Although, you know, she's not that good. So I'm sure she went against like cyborg. She probably gonna ask it by cyborg. That might be cool.

That'd be kind of cool, huh? Although, you know, never mind. I can say that. Come on, Cyborg. Questionable. Moving on, no, I can't. Bring on the, we kind of bird is it? I don't know if you know. That's awkward, bird. Yeah, bring on the what kind of bird is it? I don't know. So awkward. Oh, you know what?

Some of that we know what I want to ask also bring up here in the intro. So I want to ask what the quality is. I've been asked that many, many times. Why is there an eagle sound? And why do you guys call it listen? I invented all of it. I'll tell you you did.

You did. You did. This happened. This happened a long time ago. It was a long time ago. It was when we were we've just got in the new studio. And I remember I remember we were, this happened, this happened. It was a long time ago. It was a long time ago. It was when we were, we've just got in the new studio and I remember, I remember we were doing, not in this studio, but the old one. No, the old one. Yeah, yeah, this is the studio.

And when we first got there, so we just left Doug's house. So this is fresh into mind pump. We're only maybe 30, 30 to 50 episodes deep. And we, one of the things, it's the episode that we did where Doug talks about his spirit animal. We get into the spirit animals

and that's when it started, right? And that's what gave you the... And then it was, because I was controlling the mind pump I G page and saw it was putting up posts that were like Q and A. And then you just pronounce it. The thought, yeah, the thought process was like Q and A

and I was like and I kept writing, like write your questions and I'm like, that's lame, let me make something, you know, like branding out of this or whatever, like my brain and I was like, Quique, Quac, Quac, Quac, Quac. You know? And then I just like set it on the podcast

and I was like, yeah, Quac! And then I added, you know, the, Quac! Yeah, and then that for a while. And then Doug did the bird, then Doug, Doug out of the bird, then Doug out of the bird and then that for a while. And then Doug did the bird, then Doug. Doug out of the bird. Then Doug out of the bird and then it became a thing.

Evolution man. So this is the last time I think we should ever say Quique while. I think we should ever tell the story behind it. Oh, can't tell the secret. I like that. I think we should be a secret from now on. Well, I like that it actually came up as a question.

Like that means we've had people that have come on that haven't listened to, well, I'm sure there's a lot of people that have come on that don't have to listen to first, like 400 or whatever. It's crazy to me that there's still some people that go back and listen to the whole thing. We just had two people in the form, I saw that this morning.

This morning. Just finally caught up. It's like 650 episodes. Yeah, how many hours of podcasting is that? You gotta feel like we're best friends, right? Like I feel like I love you. You gotta love me. Why are we gonna love each other?

You've let me talk in your ear for a fucking hour. We pong out of our homes. We pong through've let me talk in your ear for a fucking hour. We've hung out. We've hung out. We've hung out through times. I've talked to you more than almost anybody else. Exactly, right? Isn't that weird? Right in your ear.

We love you. Yeah. We call it a plan. We call it a plan. We call it a plan. We call it a plan. Today's quads being brought to you by Kine Maricopi. It's the only coffee that is infused with all natural nutrients for a cleaner,

calmer, and more focused buzz without the crash. Put the Kai Maricopi at MindPumpMedia.com and input the discount code MindPumpa Checkout for 10% off! It's the motherfucking quag- The Eagle has landed! Qui-quag. Our first question is from DJ Cruise. How do you build a following on social scroll? What the f**king car? The eagle has landed! Quikwa. Our first question is from DJ Cruise. How do you build a following on social media without being consumed?

This is tough, dude. Tough, it's the, you know, reminds me of this book. I've been reading this book. Please, please describe it for me. This is book, I've been reading it. I'll let Adam answer this. This is like your favorite wheel. You can't. I want you to define it exactly book I've been really done. I'll let Adam answer this. This is like your future wheel. You can't.

I want you to define it exactly. You have to answer it. So these assholes have been giving me shit because the, and obviously a lot of our listeners may not know this because it sounds like a lot because I've said it probably a couple times on this show, but I've also said it several times when we were being interviewed or interviewing other people. So it's on like, you know, 10 different. Yes, it's like a 10 different podcast.

And then plus ours, I've said a couple times. So I've referenced the book, air-assistible. Now, for me, it's because I just think that this is such a great hot topic right now because nobody's really, I don't think there's a lot of people talking about it. And I think that Adam Atler with air-resistible and Dr. Andy Galpin with Unplugged are the

first two people I feel like that have been really addressing with. Recognize it as a potential problem. Right. And the way they articulated in the book, the both of those books is incredible. And I never would have thought to look at it that way. And I think it's a very real thing. I know that I was somebody who didn't even have social media before. I didn't give a fuck about my space or Facebook or any

of that stuff. Like I just never was into that. It was not a thing for me. I talked to anyone who I really wanted to talk to that were my friends like if we fucking text or we hung out, right? So that to me, I never really cared that much about it. The only reason why I got on was with the intention of building a business that. So I went from being someone never did, then I was doing it for business reasons and then I caught myself justifying, I'm doing this for business reasons and realizing like holy shit, like sure,

I might be working, but I'm also scrolling too. It's weird, it's weird how, you know, they compare it to drugs because of the effect it has on the brain and the addictive propryming. And there are withdrawal symptoms from, for those of you who are on your apps all the time and on your phone all the time,

you know exactly what that's like. If you, you know the feeling you get when you drive off and you realize you forgot your phone, you know, and all of a sudden you're like, oh shit, I don't have my phone with me. Like, nobody can get a hold of me. That's almost like a sign of withdrawal, oh shit, I don't have my phone with me. Nobody can get a hold of me. That's almost like a sign of withdrawal, right?

Or I can't check my Instagram, I can't check my Facebook. So it's weird. In fact, it just happened. We were sitting here about to record this episode and Doug, you know, real quick, he's like, hey guys, you know, we need some questions for the quaw episode, episode. And so all of us get on our phones to check the Instagram page so we can find the quad and we all all of us got derailed yes yeah we were checking other shit squirrel squirrel all of a sudden 15 minutes later Doug's like hey you guys know it's a matter of the no questions or whatever

there's 230 questions keep all of us are doing other shit. It's really fucking crazy. It is. So that's why I like to talk about, here's my thing. Like, I'll never claim to be the smartest or best guy in the fitness industry. But one thing that I've always done is like, as I go through this process myself of learning about myself and working on my relationship with food, exercise, emotionally, self-image,

all the things that we talk about. There's moments where I feel like are very like, aha or big in this journey, in this process. And this is one for me right now that, wow, this could be very easy. I can justify all the consumption of social media. Well, yeah, to piggyback on that, I saw immediately how it was affecting my relationship with my wife and how we recognize it even like as, you know, phones, these, like, it got more and more, like we got consumed with them.

And like I would look at stuff before I went to sleep. Like I never did that before. It started to get like the iPhone's got a lot better and it just became this thing. Like we kind of joke about it. Be like yeah, at some point we'll be like just looking at our phones and then putting them down and all that and like kind of joking about it.

And then realize that really fucking happened. And then it was like, I wasn't talking to her. She wasn't talking to me. You know, I'm on my phone like doing all this business stuff that I thought was important, which is really just, you know, scrolling left to right and all these different things. You just did something, keys,

it was the iPhone was like the real big, when you started getting like, that was it, man. Think about how our text message, even our threads are, right? Now you can even like, like if South says something, I can like it. Yeah, you can like it or do it emoji attached to it

or you can put it, you know, and so now you can have group conversations, lots of people. So there's all these things that are feeding this dopamine rush, right? From all this is off. Oh, he liked this. Oh, she disagreed. So you could have so much going on that you, I mean, when we start close you away when the first phones came out, it was like the analog. You know, and the text message, you had to go three times the bus. Yeah, it was like, no, it was lame. You said something short got your point across whatever you'd rather call them. But now, like the whole texting,

people get irritated when you call them now. No, they do. No, you can't. This might be important. Yeah, why don't you text me, let me know you're gonna call me. Right, so building a following on social media requires a few things. One of the things that requires is consistency.

Now, that also is what makes it difficult to not become consumed, because if I'm really focused on building my social media page, let's say I'm a personal trainer, and I want to build an online coaching business, and I want to use a platform like Instagram, you know, one of the key things that you can do, one of the fundamental things that you need to do to build your page is to post consistently and regularly.

So, okay, three posts every day, or four posts every day, or two posts every day, or whatever. But do them every single day, just be dogmatic about it and be consistent. One, that's one of the best things you could do to build not just a base of followers but also build value, which is more important to the followers that you do get.

Now, the problem with that again is that you're on there, right? You're on there a lot, and it's giving you excuse for, you know, to be on there, and you can become consumed with it. So one thing that I do that I should be better at, or I'm trying to be better at, is I schedule it. So if I know I'm scheduling it in the morning, I do one post at this time, and I do another another post at this time and I make it just about that. If we were really organized, if we were really organized,

what we would all do, and I wish I would do this too, you could plan out that in the beginning of the day or even at the beginning of the week, you can actually plan all your posts. So in a perfect world, and this is why this is a weakness of ours and why we struggle with this. It's organizational. Right, this is a time management thing, 100%

and everybody in this room with if that was a weakness, that we had in common, that would be one of them for sure. And so I think people that are really organized and really good about this is you work hard for one day and you plan out all these timed posts and everything and the content that's anyway, which would actually take some time and probably isn't easy for a lot of people the first time.

But if you did that, that would be the ultimate. Because then you could just have it set to where it hits that draws. Now the drawback of that. Engagements. Right. Is the engagement side half a wide, wide people follow and grow and come on is, and that's probably the biggest mistake I see pages, including myself I did at one point.

So I initially spiked up to like 20,000 people and then I got distracted and busy with other stuff about Mind Pump. I used it first to get enough people listening to me to that, I get them to listen to Mind Pump. And then once Mind Pump catapulted beyond my Instagram, I just kind of like whatever about it. And I started to see people fall off completely and I just was just posting and I wouldn't talk to people. Well, I got back to engaging and all that. And then right away it started to ramp back up. So engagement with your audience and talking to your people

are the most important thing. I mean, why am I following you? Because you do cool posts, right? And you have cool photos. But if I'm gonna read your content shit and I'm gonna talk to you and you have my attention, like you gotta engage with them for sure. Yeah, so for me personally, so I'll give you an example

of what I did yesterday. So typically what I'll do is what I've been trying to do lately is I try to come in to work if I can early and the two things that I try to accomplish before we all get to mind pump work is I try to accomplish before we all get, you know, to mind-pump work is I try to do one social media post and lately I've also been trying to write a blog and so far I've been relatively consistent. Now knowing that and I do that then I tell myself that if I do check my social

media it's literally maybe a few times a day, check, engage, and get off. Now, unfortunately, it doesn't always work out that way again, like I said earlier, we got kind of stuck. The second time that I'll try and get on there is at night. So like last night, I get home late. I've been, you know, obviously, I'm kind of fighting the cold. So I made myself some of the four-sigmatic racie, which I love, by the way, totally calms

me down, relax. It's also good for my immune system. So I make that and of the four-sigmatic ratio, which I love, by the way, totally calms me down, relax. It's also good for my immune system. So I make that and I make it hot, so it's kind of like a tea. And I sit there and I give my, and I do my second post. And I allow myself enough time on there if I finish my post to finish my tea. Once I'm done with my tea, and it's just a, it's just a physical representation of a timer.

It's like an hourglass for me. When I'm done with my four-signatic ray sheet T last night, I'm done with this, I'm done with this post. I finished my T or whatever, my ray sheet, turned off my phone, turned off the electronics, and then I had 30, 45 minutes before going to bed. And so it just, it reminds me of, you know, managing food intake or anything else, before you get to this state where it becomes natural, you got to kind of set the structure. Yeah.

You got to have a structure first. Right, set the boundaries. And I think that, like those books you mentioned, that's, these are the only type of books that are even like addressing this is like with urgency. Like this is getting out of control. And it's like inherently, I think people listening, they feel that like how much time they spend on the phone and how much time it's distracting them from like real life activities and engagement with like real human beings.

And I think we all kind of know it's getting to that point. Like you really have to check it as like, you know, where do I set up my boundaries? How do I create a healthier relationship with this process? Well, the behavioral addiction part is so obvious when you talk about what, what's how we open this, right? I mean, we are focused trying to get work done

yeah and really work at work right literally distracted and and just of course we're all open and honest about like I totally got fucking sidetracked oh so did I sort of died it's like fuck dude that's crazy like that wouldn't happen that shouldn't happen you know but that's because it's it's that's how it starts like a slippery slide right yeah I also like drama's approach to it he had an an additional phone that was, he would just designate completely for business related things, emails and social media accounts. I just don't know if that's the move or not.

I might actually try that at some point. We'll see. Yeah, I thought about the same thing. I don't know if that would help me or not. I know that. I just had more. Yeah, I just think that at the same token too, okay, when you're trying to build something, okay, there's gonna be, your

balance is gonna be out of, you're gonna be out of balance regardless, right? So, you know, we talk about how important that is, I only started cutting back on my social media after I got to a point to where the business is up running. We were still not. I'd be the first one to admit that I'd be probably on it morning till night all night long. Like, which is because I'm trying to build something and I would know 100% this is not healthy. This is not ideal for me. I'm probably my where relationships are suffering. All that did happen to me. But I communicated that with my partner heading into that same like, listen, you know how I get when we are

Focused on one thing. I'll get tunnel vision on it. It's not a lack of me loving you or not being there's not This is just let me get here. We'll get to a place and then once we have more time I'll carve it and that's just to me. I think that's you got to understand that too because I know Sal You're I know you're really ramped up your post lately and you can see you can see by the traction that your you're really ramped up your post lately. And you can see, you can see by the traction that your Instagram is in comparison to all of our pages right now. You're doing almost double the ads as I am. You're also doing two to three times the posts as I am too.

It's that frequency and making sure you're engaging with your people and you're naturally gonna add. And I'm a terrible example now, if you're someone who's just now coming on board because we had already, once I the point where I like I said I said my pump is bigger than my Instagram. I just said like okay, I'll just I'll just manage it and that's what I do now Now I manage it I post I talked to my people when I can but it has not it's not a priority if you're trying to grow your social media Yeah, you're gonna fucking live on that for a while

You're gonna live on a lot and you and the more you do the more you post, the better off you're gonna be. Yeah. All right, the next question is from Godzilla 111112. Periodization within the same week versus periodization for weeks on end. Absolutely. Honestly, I know we structured a certain way, but it's... Well, there's always some form of periodization going on. Right, and so they've done form of periodization going on. Right.

And so they've done studies on the groups like this. They've done groups like this that appear to eyes it weekly, and then they do ones where they don't change anything for like four to say, and then what groups make the biggest difference. And really in the studies, if you're periodizing it at all, like if you're making sure you're whether you're manipulating within the week or every week, whatever,

you're fine. I mean, I would do my recommendation to somebody would be do what you like to do. An experiment with both. Cause maybe your body responds better to one way than the other, or maybe you tend to gravitate towards a way of training already. So doing the opposite is obviously going to send

a louder signal, right, for growth or change. So I think that that would be my advice to some. I think when you're speaking in terms of... Here's the thing. I prefer periodization weekly. I prefer staying in a particular type of training, tempo and rep range and whatever for two to four weeks before I move to the next one. For a few different reasons,

one of which is it takes me typically, it takes me at least a week or so before I feel like I get the central nervous system adaptation happening. So what I mean by that is, you know, if I always train low reps, well, especially with big movements, do you think?

With the big gross motor movements, it's like, it's one thing to change up, periodize like some fucking bicep exercises and shit. Well, that's the thing, like if I train, let's say I train low reps all the, like for three weeks, I'm just training maximal strength for the next three weeks. When I switch to high reps, the first week, man, I'm just get enough endurance to even fucking do this at,

you know what I'm saying? Then it's the second and third set where I really can push myself and I see the changes. It also helps me to, it really helps me identify what I'm getting exactly out of this training style. Like what, what exercises am I currently doing right now and what rep range is actually making the degree? This is how I identified with myself.

It's hard to do that when you do that. This is how I identified with myself that when I lifted heavy, like really, really heavy, I would get this kind of dense, hard feel and look to my muscles. And if I did, you know, higher rep kind of pumping, you know, movements or whatever, I noticed that, I'd get this fuller, rounder look to my muscles. And I would notice these specifics,

and they're subtle, by the way. So, to the average person, they wouldn't be able to tell a difference. I can, because I'm very into my body, but I wouldn't be able to do that, or at least I wouldn't be able to, you know, connect it, yeah, to connect it to a type of training, if I change my workout every single time.

Which, this was me, I was this guy. Like, I was known for this. In fact, I used to say this. I used to say, I've never repeated the same Workout ever once like I just say that like that for years I said that because and that confused the fuck right it was it was really and and that's what it was was I was constantly flipping and changing everything and it worked well for me and because of that and then there's some benefits to that I was I was very mobile. I was I was fast. I had endurance. I was very mobile, I was fast, I had endurance,

I was strong, but I was not great at any of those. I was good at all of them because I was constantly, I never let my body specialize long enough in a phase for me to get really, and see the major steps. So when I really started to appear at eyes and I started to break it up like in our phases and maps, when I started programming like that, oh, huge difference.

Huge difference. But also with that comes the pitfalls. Because then I also struggled with sticking in phases, wanting to stay there because I see the chain, oh man, also I started living heavy. I see the dancer, this, all this stuff is happening in my body. So then I fall in love with it, find myself fucking around with it for way too long.

I went somewhat similar in a trap of where you get comfortable in a certain style for quite a bit. And so for me, I would get into this rhythm of more functional style training for way too long. And the benefit to that though is building up all this work capacity in that direction. But then I became really shitty at things that I normally used to be good at. like the benefit to that though is like building up all this work capacity in that direction. Right. But then I became really shitty at like things

that I normally used to be good at. Right. And so yeah, so a little bit of a difference there, but like I'm definitely like in kind of more leaning on what Salah saying is for us, like I wanna be able to measure that but then move forward. So I'm still progressing, but I can identify,

okay, what's really happening with my body. And that usually takes, you know, at least three, three, three, four weeks for me to even like realize. There's the mental component too of, you know, knowing what the intent is and how to have the intention in your workouts when you're in a particular phase. So if I take the average person who, you know, let's say buys one of our programs and wants to follow the workout, there's a there's a mentality and an and an intent that goes into a phase one type of workout or a phase two type of workout or a phase three type of workout. So if I take that person and Monday is phase one, Wednesday is phase two and Friday is phase three, it's more difficult for them to get in the intent to really understand the purpose and

to feel what they're supposed to feel, what the workout versus them, me saying, you're going to practice phase one for three weeks. By that third week, these start to feel like I'm getting fucking good at this, and then they switch versus they're changing all the time where, look, when you're doing a phase three, so phase three doing a phase three, so phase three is more superset, it's higher reps, it's faster pace, totally different intent. It's a different mentality going into your workout,

which is why obviously weights are gonna get reduced, you're not gonna be nowhere near as strong because you're not giving yourself a rest period, higher repetitions. It's a totally different deal. And you gotta be okay with it, because that's another thing. Yes.

This is a mental fuck that happens to people is you should, you know better, you've been training in a six to eight rep range or a low rep range for long and you know you need to transition out. You start doing your, you know, 15 reps of chest press and now your dumbbell weight is cut in half for your barbell weights cut in half and you're like, it is an ego check. And you do it one time and then you're like, fuck that. I'm going back to it. I'm going back to him. Have you guys wait? I know My life story right this is that I that's why I speak so passionate about it because I know

Mother fuckers be doing this right now. Yeah, or else everyone will be changing looking bad ass in the gym when I walk in there still people look soft as fuck Yeah, because they're not programming right You know they just are the same. They look the same. Sometimes I shouldn't say so all of them look soft as fuck But a lot of them look the same and they look the same. So, I shouldn't say all of them are soft as fuck, but a lot of them look the same, and their body's not changing. And I know they're working hard, but they're working hard at the same things and their body's so efficient.

At the end of the day, do what works best for you, but ultimately, if I had to pass my opinion, most people will probably do best if they stay in a phase or in a periodization sequence or whatever, for at least a few weeks before moving to the next one. I agree, as long as you keep an eye on the pitfalls, because that's the only thing that comes

with that. Next up is Paleo Practitioner. Are you familiar with Gretchen Rubin's personality framework? If so, which traits are you guys? Well, I have no idea what that is. What is that? Yeah, I know, I didn't know either. So I guess I'm just going to read it off off and then we can kind of like identify which one.

Well tell us like before you're reading to it, can you, are you just gonna read it? So it sounds like it's, I mean, it sounds like it's one of those like, it feels like is it one of those tests where they tell you like, you're the fucking this, you're the, Oh, is this like what Josh Trent was talking about?

Was it? I don't know. It is, it is. It is what he was talking about. Is that like on your guys podcast? Oh, that's right, it's another one. Yeah, that's what it is. Was that like on your guys podcast? Oh, let's try this another one. Yeah, I was in there. Yeah, that's right. Yeah.

I didn't realize we left you that many times. I know, guys have really, you know, spawned off and created a new thing. It makes us like you more, dude. It's my feelings. What do they call it? Like distances? I heard Sal on the phone with CBS yesterday,

dude, talking to them about something. Whoa. That's cool. It's cool. Yeah, yeah, whatever. I'm talking to Fox. It's fine. Whatever. No. That's cool. Yeah, yeah, whatever. I'm talking to Fox. It's fine. Whatever.

Let's hear it. Okay, so Gretchenroom. So it says in a nutshell, upholders is one of the, what do we call it? Personality frameworks. Personality frameworks. Respond readily to outer and inner expectations. Questionnaires is another one.

Question all expectations. They'll meet an expectation if they think it makes sense. Rebels resist all expectations out or in interalike and then there's oblig- oblig- obligers. Obligers. Obligers. Obligers. God, I can't read. Meet outer expectations but struggle to meet expectations they impose on themselves. Interesting. I'm for sure a blider then. I can't read. Meet outer expectations, but struggle to meet expectations they impose on themselves. Interesting. I'm for sure a blider then.

Oh yeah. So you're a sales equationer. Really? Yeah, that's what, yeah. And the question they actually identified use that. They said that was a questioner. Yeah, yeah, this is a questioner again. So the questioner question all expectations,

they'll meet an expectation if they think it makes sense. Oh, yeah Yeah, you know what one of the one of the what do you idea what I am? You don't know what you are? No really I think you're the rejecter one the one that rejects everything Yeah, you're like yeah rejects first and then yeah, what is it? What is it? What's it? What's it? What's it? Yeah, so the rebels resist. Yeah, I think you're the right. I think Justin's the rebel. I think I'm the blider and you're the questioner. You know, it's funny.

That's interesting. This made it difficult for me because they would tell me to do something and if I didn't see the purpose in it, I just refused. You know what I mean? You need to memorize this and it's like, why? Yeah, because there's some of it, you know, some of those and each one of those,

there's a little bit. Doug, do you know anything about this guy? I feel like this is something Yeah, because there's some of it, you know, some of those in, you know, each one of those, there's a little bit. Doug, do you know anything about this guy? I feel like this is something you would know. I know nothing about it. Okay, my bad. I wonder, so you know what's funny about these tests? It's like they create them. Well, you know what it reminds me of?

Horoscopes. Which one do you feel is you? Right, that's the way, I mean, and that's not like a knock on people that, like I'm sure there's some grace Doesn't it though it's like I don't know if you read that horse goes from around for thousands of years So it stood the test of time Gretchen You guys do you guys fit your your your course go I do I totally do sometimes yeah

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Full there dude ambitious Intuitive yep jealous all the above secretive jealous. No, Adam's very jealous Dude one time I was fucking texting that other fitness guy You're so right he was so pissed Let's see what a core I'm gonna look up mine see what those are Justin. What are you? I'm not queries too, bro Oh, yeah, we've see it we share the same horror scope skip. Yeah, yeah, we're me yours Oh, that's all that's all my that's my negative in my or my was that all your stuff You just gave me the what was bad about me or was good about? Oh, that was all my that's my negative in my or my was that all your stuff you just gave me the what was

Bad about me or was good about. Oh, that was all those are the traits. Oh, they don't have like a normally I can go and I can go into a whole thing, but you know, I want to do that. I'm curious Let me see he's a way to get to mind positive qualities of a curious truthfulness Just curious Affectionate I love you guys, personality, frank and imaginative. Okay, let's look at the negative qualities.

Unpredictable, detachment, tendency to go off track and inefficiency. Oh, these are right on. Oh my God, that's weird, bro. Yes. It's totally, the Aquarius born people must be careful of any kind of addiction. Interesting.

Now, do you have, no. Have you ever tried to look up, like so pair our personality? So you can do, they do this thing like matches. How do we match with Adam? Yeah, yeah, see how Aquarius and Scorpio is match together. Aquarius.

Okay, okay, okay. It's a Manage-a-toil. Compatibility with, hold on, compatibility with Scorpio. Let's see what it says here. This is so fun. This is weird. What are we doing? I don't know.

You know what's funny? I'm curious, I really have a lot of love. I love it. Do you know how many people do this when they first meet? I used to. Like another person they're doing? Like that matter. After the first time someone introduced me to this,

I'll never forget, it was like I was 25 years old, this girl that I was hanging out with. She sends, she shows me this, right? And I'm like, Was it just cause it like you resonated so hard? So hard. You're so hard. That is me.

And then I, then what it really fucked with me was then I went back and went, okay, if this is real, let me go back and I went back to all the girls that I dated in their birthdays and I looked them up. And all played out. And all the stuff that we had problems in our relationship was like right onto their side. But your girls are Scorpio too.

Yeah, one day apart. Aren't just Scorpio's compatible Scorpio. So it's either they say it's either absolute disaster or it's incredible fireworks. That's what I say. So, so here's the Scorpio and Aquarius. So for me, you and Justin, if we all decided to take it real world, yeah, we're all, you know,

we got drunk. We kind of are dating. We're just not, no, we just got really drunk. Contact between a Scorpio and an Aquarius can be truly intense. As, as squaring signs, they should have a very troublesome contact, but the sign of Scorpio exalts the ruler of Aquarius Uranus. I don't know why they have Uranus in them. Why are we Uranus? Hold on, hold on. Oh, I guess. Yeah, these signs, this is the best part.

These signs combined represent the ultimate set. Put your stinger in Uranus. They represent the ultimate sexual freedom, a place with no restrictions or taboo. Yeah, yeah. Wow. Is that not us or what? Wow, this is what's happening.

What the fuck? I don't know. It's not spicy though. It's like, it's like some kind of like nuclear attack while we're at work. I mean, we would have really hot, you know, the faction together. You know what's funny is we have this cube that we built for the podcast, but it's probably bombproof.

This thing we built it to the sound like it. So like shit goes down. You can not hear my screen. We're stuck in this room. We're still podcasting hard. Yeah. Next question is from Black All Training Nutrition. How would you alter frequency of maps aesthetic

if you were running it on gear versus natural? Oh, so I've actually had a lot of people asking me this, like what's the difference in training between somebody who's on gear versus someone who's natural? And now the bottom line is this. Oh really? Just recovery. Yeah, the rules still apply though.

They do still apply. That's the same but it's the same stuff. And the individual variance is still gonna be crazy. That's right. Of course. Because there's gonna be genetic freaks that recover faster, can handle more volume, don't get achy joints, don't get as an inflame. So 100% natural, not natural, there still is this, this gray, huge gray area of a major

individual variance within both those categories. But when you are, it, what it does is it allows you to get away with more basically. So if you took you natural versus you on you know That's where you could and I floored it with that with those lines of how much volume I was that's training Seven days a week inside the gym so and I worked now I worked up to that volume I didn't start at seven days I wasn't like you just got on here and like boom seven days in the gym Exactly and that would be a mistake too, because like you said, the same rules still apply. It would still be whove me to actually just add

a little bit of volume over time versus all sudden going balls to the wall. So that could be a mistake that you can make and the steroids will respond still well. And so it'll be, you'll miss judge it or miscalculate it. So that's the thing you gotta be careful with, like, okay, I'm gonna take gear and then do something. It's like, well, now you're playing with like this,

you're playing a new game that you've never played before, and then you're playing by different rules because you now have got this in there. Why don't you play it first, natural? And that's why I would tell anybody who hired me on for coaching is, listen, I'm not anti testosterone or taking steroids at all. How could I be? But at the same time, I think there's a smart way to do this.

Like, let's train you correctly, naturally. Let's see, let's learn about your body about how it recovers and it responds to certain adaptations. Like, let's get, let's figure out what that is. And then if you really want to take this to the next level and we want to go pro and do a lot shit, by all means, who might have told you not to. So one of the mistakes I see with people when they get on gear is because they now can do more, they do do a lot more even though it's not necessarily benefiting them.

So yes, let's say somebody trained full body three days a week, did focus sessions on the off days like we have in Maps aesthetic, and then they get on gear and now they're like, oh cool, I'm gonna throw in an extra full body workout because I think, I know my body can handle it. What you need to understand is recovery doesn't necessarily mean adaptation. So although you may recover faster, you may not, it doesn't necessarily mean

you should push it to that limit because it's not gonna necessarily mean you're gonna adapt better. Yes, you'll get away with it, but you may just be doing more workouts for another thing. That's another problem is you actually, you know, let's be honest. If someone took steroids, all sudden ran maps black and they full throttle that seven days a week never took days off, you're going to build some muscle. Sure.

100% you're going to build some muscle. You're going to build a lot of muscle actually, but then you're going to hit a hard plateau. And when you hit that hard plateau, there's only one direction to go at that point. You just don't have more time and days, there's a much smarter approach. Yeah, basically, if you, you want to understand with, with anabolic steroids is,

you just can do more. So if you're, whatever you're doing now, that's your genetic, you know, you know, you recover your adaptation, that's your, that's what your makeup allows you to do. You throw steroids on top of that, you could just do more of that. Doesn't necessarily mean, though, I want to be clear,

doesn't necessarily mean that doing more is necessarily ideal. It's going to give you, yeah, ideal or give you faster results. The problem is, it's hard to judge, you know, because here's the thing, like if you're natural and you're like, oh, I'm going to get on a cycle of gear and oh, now that I'm on a cycle of your, I'm going to add two extra workouts and then you gain, you know, 12 pounds of muscle. Was it the extra workouts?

Was it the gear? Was it both? Would that have happened to add you not added the extra workouts? Like, you know, because I, you know, I've done this with supplements, like some supplements will improve recovery, you know, certain amino acids, I've noticed, you know, maybe if I'm pushing myself to the limit. I've done this with athletes and I've shown them like, and this is why I think it's so important because it almost every time I've done this, it always surprises the athlete, how shredded, how bad ass they actually end up looking without it.

And then it's like, and then like I said, yeah, absolutely, if you are a kid and I've had this, amateur comes to me, I look at his physique and I tell him like, yeah, you have a good structure for this sport, you can do well, whatever I thought, like, yeah, I have aspirations to be an pro, okay. What steroids, I go, wait, whoa, we don't need to, we're at the amateur level right now,

you can go win an amateur show all natural, in the NPC easily You really can but you just gotta be you gotta you gotta have the package this if you had that But then I'll take them and then I'll get them in shape Then they see themselves for that and they're like oh shit like I've had guys who are had every plan every intent to get on Get on a cycle and run and then they end up seeing what they can actually get to what they can get their body to perform Like when they eat correctly and they program right. And it's like, oh shit, you know what I'm saying?

Like, and at that point, if you want to go to the next level, I understand that's fucking to each their own, right? Which is interesting to listen, you know, to describe that in that entire process because I remember us being at lunch and this guy mentioning a certain like a pro maker, let's just say out there that, you know, the first go to out of anything is the drug schedule. You're right.

Like that's, this is what everybody, Oh, that is so, Oh, the guy that trains pro bodybuilders, Yeah, pro looks like a meatball. Yeah. Yeah. That is the most common thing, theme in in the bodybuilding circuit is.

I mean, everybody, that was everyone was talking about. That's what I was like, when I was backstage, it was always about, what are you running? What are you running? And everybody's talking about what they're stacking on top of what, and it was just like, whoa, dude, like, this were amateurs right now. You kidding me?

You don't need all that gear for that? Like, it's crazy. So, that, but that's what's happened because science has come along. We have learned about all these different hormones and steroids and shit that we can take to get better faster recovery and metabolize fat faster and do all this cool shit

that we didn't know before. And so everyone's stacking up. It's like, whoa, dude. Now, in your body, in your body, actually stops responding to these animal hormones or You get some dap, that like in the ocean. Yeah, it starts to get adapted. And the other thing too is if you take, you know, let's say you're training again, let's hear training five days a week and you're working out hard and somebody gives you anabolic, or you start taking anabolic steroids,

you're still going to be increasing, you know, the stress or the volume I should say you're putting on your body because you're going to get stronger also. So it's not like all your variables stay the same so you have to throw more on there. Anyway, even if you kept the work out the same, you're just going to be lifting more weight. That's another variable that you've increased. So you don't necessarily have to think to yourself like, oh shit, now that I'm on gear, I need to add all kinds of extra work to maximize it. My recommendation is this, and I've trained clients

and athletes who've taken antibiotics. I tell them, don't change your workout, get on it, don't change your workout, let's see what happens first, and then we start playing around, because people, I've seen too many times, people will go in gear, change the workout right away, which by the way, gear takes a while,

steroids take a while to give you some response anyway. So if you take it today, you ain't gonna feel it for at least a couple weeks, at least, right? You're not gonna start to notice really. So people will change the workout right away and almost throw themselves into a state of overtraining before they even give it a chance to kind of catch up. But at the end of the day again, it just lets you do more

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