Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 687: CaliFlour Foods- Transforming Pizza into a Healthy Food
Episode Date: January 18, 2018In this episode of Mind Pump, Sal, Adam & Justin speak with CaliFlour Foods (www.califlourfoods.com) founder & CEO Amy Lacey and Rachel O'Rourke PR & Events. CaliFlour foods have figured out how to t...ransform a whole head of cauliflower into a single 9" pizza crust using only four natural ingredients. If you are a pizza fan you will definitely want to order some of these crusts. Also, these women have built a multi-million dollar company just in a couple years so if you are a business owner or have aspirations of being a business owner it is a must listen. Find out how a health scare transformed Amy’s life and was the origin of CaliFlour Foods. (4:19) CaliFlour Foods the Mind Pump of pizzas! Find out how the power of social media catapulted the company. (10:25) #TheNewWhiteFlour – Find out the benefits of cauliflower. (17:00) The Thrive Market model. Find out how the future of business is e-commerce. (23:05) Do they notice age ranges on their different social media platforms? (24:10) What are they most excited about for their future? (28:00) Find out staying true to who they are is why they continue to grow. (30:14) How did Amy and Rachel meet? Find out even further parallels to Mind Pump. (32:30) Related Links/Products Mentioned: Califlour Foods Pizza Crusts Get your crusts for 20% off using the code MINDPUMP at checkout Intuitive Nutrition Guide - Mind Pump Cottage Food Operations Mediterranean Greek Topped Cauliflower Pizza (with guests from Mind Pump) – YouTube 8 Amazing Health Benefits of Cauliflower Cruciferous Vegetables and Cancer Prevention Thrive Market (MP sponsor) One FREE month’s membership $20 Off your first three purchases of $49 or more (That’s $60 off total!) Free shipping on orders of $49 or more Cauliflower: The Superfood Health Benefits Role of “Western Diet” in Inflammatory Autoimmune Diseases Featured Guest/People Mentioned: Califlour Foods - Facebook Cauliflower Pizza Crusts (@califlourfoods) Instagram/Twitter Califlour Foods - YouTube Rachel O'Rourke (@rachelorourke) Instagram Amy Lacey Robb Wolf (@robbwolf) Twitter Oprah Winfrey (@Oprah) Twitter Get your crusts for 20% off using the code MINDPUMP at checkout. Go to www.califlourfoods.com. Would you like to be coached by Sal, Adam & Justin? You can get 30 days of virtual coaching from them for FREE at www.mindpumpmedia.com. Get our newest program, MAPS Prime Pro, which shows you how to self assess and correct muscle recruitment patterns that cause pain and impede performance and gains. Get it at www.mindpumpmedia.com! Get MAPS Prime, MAPS Anywhere, MAPS Anabolic, MAPS Performance, MAPS Aesthetic, the Butt Builder Blueprint, the Sexy Athlete Mod AND KB4A (The MAPS Super Bundle) packaged together at a substantial DISCOUNT at www.mindpumpmedia.com. Make EVERY workout better with MAPS Prime, the only pre-workout you need… it is now available at mindpumpmedia.com Also check out Thrive Market! Thrive Market makes purchasing organic, non-GMO affordable. With prices up to 50% off retail, Thrive Market blows away most conventional, non-organic foods. PLUS, they offer a NO RISK way to get started which includes: 1. One FREE month’s membership 2. $20 Off your first three purchases of $49 or more (That’s $60 off total!) 3. Free shipping on orders of $49 or more Have Sal, Adam & Justin personally train you via video instruction on our YouTube channel, Mind Pump TV. Be sure to Subscribe for updates. Get your Kimera Koffee at www.kimerakoffee.com, code "mindpump" for 10% off! Get Organifi, certified organic greens, protein, probiotics, etc at www.organifi.com Use the code “mindpump” for 20% off. Go to foursigmatic.com/mindpump and use the discount code “mindpump” for 15% off of your first order of health & energy boosting mushroom products. Add to the incredible brain enhancing effect of Kimera Koffee with www.brain.fm/mindpump 10 Free sessions! Music for the brain for incredible focus, sleep and naps! Also includes 20% if you purchase! Please subscribe, rate and review this show! Each week our favorite reviewers are announced on the show and sent Mind Pump T-shirts! Have questions for Mind Pump? Each Monday on Instagram (@mindpumpmedia) look for the QUAH post and input your question there. (Sal, Adam & Justin will answer as many questions as they can)
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Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews.
Our homegirls up in Chico came down, hung out with us for the day, talked all about them building their business.
Our homegirls.
And, uh, man, I absolutely love these pizzas.
They have a great product.
It's pizza crusts made with an entire head of cauliflower.
There's very minimal ingredients.
Unlike other cauliflower pizza crusts
where you look on the back and it's like cauliflower,
wheat and a bunch of other stuff.
Like what's the purpose of doing that
if you're gonna put a bunch of other things?
This is minimal ingredients.
Again, they're delicious. We eat them all the time.
They literally made these with people like me in mind.
And they saved my life.
And the ladies themselves, or, you know, that we interviewed, are awesome. We love them, in fact.
Did you see that we were featured in food and wine with them?
Oh, shit, I did. I gotta look at that.
We were in a little magazine, shout out to the home,
they, I know they arranged that set that up.
So that was a pretty cool shout out there.
We also are featured on their YouTube channel right now
where the two of you knuckleheads were making a pizza.
Yeah, people soon will see the ones that we created.
I also like that we got into some of the business talk here.
So those of you that are starting up a small business and looking to grow it to a seven eight figure business
What these ladies have done in the short of short period of time is very impressive very impressive impressive incredible
I know they work now well last time we talked to them. They had a team of nine
I mean in the last year and a hat with making moves like what two years less than two years have been in business
They're a fire and exploded and you know why once two years, less than two years have been in business. They're firing out.
They're just exploded.
And you know why?
Once you try the product, you understand right away.
And you hear them talk and you hear about what they have
behind it and their integrity.
We love them.
We love these girls.
We love their company.
And as you guys know, we don't associate ourselves
with companies that are not great.
And this company is great.
The company is cauliflower foods.
That's cally like California, C-A-L-I-F-L-O-U-R foods, F-O-O-D-S.
Now if you go to callyflourfluidsfoods.com and you enter the code MindPump without a space,
you'll get 20% off all orders of $50 or more.
Now they do have regular cauliflower crust pizza crusts.
They have some that are red bell peppers,
some that are spicier, and then they have a vegan one
because the other ones have a little bit of cheese in them.
Do that jalapeno in his bum.
Really good.
I get the vegan one because I can't have dairy.
Great stuff, great for kids, very healthy, low carb,
if you're dieting.
For people that have any sort of autoimmune issues.
Definitely, there's very low with food intolerances.
The people we're talking to, Amy Lacey,
who's a CEO and founder of the cauliflower foods,
and Rachel O'Rourke, who's a good friend of ours
and who leads the PR and events team,
we actually did a booth with her at the
LA Fit Expo. Oh, also, we're working with them to give our intuitive guide to their
audience. So we're working with them to promote it, to talk about what intuitive eating looks
like. And I think we talk a little bit in this episode about that. But when we were down
in LA, this was what art, this is how we collaborated, right? that, but when we were down in LA, this
was what art, this is how we collaborated, right?
So, sound, I flew down to LA, we had the girls, they were set up the ladies, sorry, for those
people that get offended by the word girl.
The ladies came down, they were with us at the expo, they were actually handing out different
pieces of the pizza, all the types of pizzas, and then sound, and I, we're talking about
intuitive eating.
So that's really how this collaboration started with them is because we talk a lot about
intuitive eating, and we think this is a great source for those people that love pizza
but are looking for an alternative that's a healthier choice.
That's right. Now, if you aren't interested in the intuitive eating guide,
we've made it very inexpensive on purpose because we think everybody should
can benefit from reading this guide.
It's $29.00.
You can find it on our site mindpumpmedia.com.
Without any further ado, here we are talking to cauliflower foods.
I want to hear about how you started your company, cauliflower foods.
So we're cauliflower foods, like California fresh.
And we make cauliflower pizza crust
and basically artisan bread.
And so I wish it was a funny story.
Maybe you guys can make fun of me.
Well, are you basically-
Did you create this because you like cauliflower
because you like pizza?
I absolutely hate cauliflower, actually.
Okay, see.
That's kind of funny.
That's very interesting.
Yeah, it's funny.
So as a joke, how many morons are gonna buy my pizza crust?
By the way, delicious, like it's really good.
It's delicious.
Yeah, Rochelle brought us a bunch of pizzas
and I almost couldn't get a piece
because Adam and Justin almost ate all of it.
Like all of it because they're pigs.
I've actually taken the ones that you've given us for free
and shipped to us and I've already ordered more too.
That's how much we've been eating.
Really?
Yeah, it's become actually this is kind of our thing now
Katrina and I. So Friday nights,
forget it for a key.
Yeah, that too.
That's after the pizza.
So I warm her up with the pizza.
So what what we do now be we get our little spread out.
We get all the different things because we like to make each one of us have to make
our own little concoction, right?
So we get all the things that we're going to put on their chicken and bacon and eggs and
bell peppers, onions.
We got cheese, everything's out there, right?
Avocado.
And we make a bunch of pizzas up.
And then, and that's kind of like our Friday or Saturday
and I enjoy ourselves and have a good time
watching whatever movie or fight or whatever's going on.
Thank you, sir.
So we do that.
And then the next morning on the weekends,
I talk about this on the show a lot
that I fast a lot on the weekends,
just because I don't move very much,
especially during football season, Sundays,
I could literally sit in the same chair all day long.
So I don't need to consume as many calories. So what I'll do is I will fast until two or three in the afternoon,
we use all the leftovers that we use for the pizza and then we turn it into this big omelette.
So this has become like this little thing that we do now.
This is sophisticated.
We started it because of the califower pizza crust.
So what's good about that is we had Friday night, family,
fun night where we used to eat pizza.
So I mean, you're talking about like having
your fun time with your girl.
So eating califower pizza is light.
You're not going to feel all weighted down like regular pizza,
which is good.
That's super important.
Yeah, because it's only 180 calories
for the entire nine inch.
And depending on what you put on it, and three net carbs.
So you're gonna stay lying.
Oh my, you put that in a cup?
Is it a cup?
Nine inches?
Yeah.
Nine inches.
Oh god.
I see where we're going.
I like it.
We can start it.
You started it.
Although Sound didn't start it with a freaky with my girl.
And I don't like to.
So I'm very self-conscious when I get below it.
And I won't have sex with Katrina.
So it is excellent that we have the cauliflower food.
I'm bloated, I am like that.
You want to, yeah, nobody wants that.
So that route when you're all bloated.
I'm bloated.
Bloated sex can be fun.
You are weird.
Yeah, I know.
So, so you went back, go back to how you started the company because you guys went on this meter,
I mean, you guys took off like,
but not from the beginning.
There was like a shift.
We were talking about this outside the studio.
Yeah, so kind of a sad story though.
The way it really got started was I had surgery.
A surgery that wouldn't develop a blood clot.
I ended up getting a pulmonary embolism.
So they went in looking for it, diagnosed me with lupus. So kind of fast forward,
I need to change my diet. And we literally did have family fun night Friday night pizza, which
my husband never got lucky on Friday night. Because I'm serious, you feel bloated and disgusting,
you don't want to do anything. I'm normal. Football or it. So anyways, I had to alter the way we ate.
So I started substituting what we were doing.
And the kids love pizza.
And you look online for pizza recipes that are healthy and cauliflower pizza crust comes
up like four million times I'm not kidding.
It's a huge D.Y.I.
So I started playing with it.
I don't like cauliflower.
It's not a vegetable I I bought it. I love vegetables
But I'm not a huge cauliflower fan. I am now. I've learned to love it and
We just started making it and then we had friends over and
People started loving it and they wanted to have me make it for them and
I decided to do a cottage license and sell it at Farmer's Market and it was selling
out every farmer's market.
So then one step led to the next and we...
What's the cottage license?
Would you say cottage license?
What is that?
What did you sell?
That's where you can make it in your house and sell it.
It's called a cottage license.
A cottage license.
You explain that to me.
I'm on the other side of your house.
Okay.
So can you thank yourself?
Do you want to eat?
Do you want to eat?
You're so hopeful.
Ignore this asshole and answer me.
I want to know what a cottage license is.
Could you explain that to me?
So you know what it's like when people bring potlucks.
And you're like, oh, I wonder what their kitchen looks like.
Yeah, is there cats all over?
Is it she the cat lady?
Is she the cat lady?
Is this gross?
Yeah, it's gross, right? Is the cat lady make meatballs Is she the cat lady? Yeah, it's gross, right?
Is the cat lady make meatballs?
Gross.
Nobody wants to eat the cat lady's meatballs.
What?
Oh, that's weird.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
I'm going to agree, man, I guess.
Sorry, get back to your cottage.
You have a cottage license.
So you have to, now, is it hard to get this?
Can I go get a cottage license and start doing that?
Or do you use that?
It depends on your kitchen.
OK, how many cats you have.
No, but seriously, you get investigated.
It's actually harder to get a license to develop and create and sell a healthy product
with no preservatives than it is to, well, my last business was getting lasers, medical
lasers into another country.
It was easier to do that to get the license because there were no preservatives in it.
And the rationale is no preservatives.
And the rationale behind that is no preservatives,
therefore they think it could spoil and, you know, cause problems.
Clean, foreclean ingredients, cauliflower, cheese, eggs, and spices,
and then we have a dairy free option too.
That's the one that I, that I, so you had, you didn't have experience
in the food industry. have experience in the food industry
No experience in the food industry. Wow, so you're like a real like you're an entrepreneur like a real
You're like my mom pizza's we had no fucking cool. We're doing we started this mic thing
It's not no idea. We still don't I hate talking you know how this happened
So yeah, so the first year we launched March of 2016 farmers market we ended that year as you know starting a business takes a lot of
funding and
So we ended that year as my accountant just
reconciled 2016 negative
$269,000 wow so end of 2016 you're in the hole so we're in two stores
We're selling out in farmers market and we're selling
maybe a thousand units online. But you're negative. You've got more debt than you. And so at this
point, is it still out of your house or have you built, do you have a kitchen somewhere? So at this
point, I've started in like mid-summer of last year, I decided that it was getting to be pretty intense to do it in my house.
And we kind of formulated a process, which I really can't talk about because it's pending.
It's patent pending.
Oh, awesome.
Yeah, that is awesome. I hope it goes through.
Mm-hmm.
Anyway, so we switched to a co-packer.
We started by renting a commercial kitchen, and then we hired a co-packer to help us manufacture it.
What now, what changed?
Because you went from negative to 280,000 to you guys are killing it right now.
The power of social media.
Yeah.
And there was one thing in particular you told me about.
Yeah, one thing in particular.
So we had this friend of mine that decided she was going to start eating the pizzas to
lose weight. Now, she was going to start eating the pizza to lose weight.
Now, she was doing some other things as well, probably some things that you guys have argued about,
some fasting, some just cutting out all carbs.
Exercise, all of that.
Yeah, a little bit of exercise.
She lost 169 pounds, but the one thing that she did consistently for seven months was eat
our pizza every single day.
I was just sending them to her for free.
So we threw her up on Facebook.
We did an ad just kind of playing around,
New Year, New Year, New Year.
And it wasn't that we were promoting the pizza as a diet.
We were just saying this is one of the things that she changed.
She called it her lean and green.
This is one of the things she changed,
and she lost 169 pounds.
And we launched that January
3rd that out on Facebook. I happened to be in New Zealand, which is where I had the medical
laser. So I was out there. Oh, you were doing that still? I had sold it. Okay. That's what funded
this business, but I was out there visiting family. We have family in New Zealand and I have
a girl that worked for me. There was just me and this other girl that worked for me and she calls me and she's like
Have you looked online like we're selling heck out of this and I said no, you know, because it's January 3rd
I've just been celebrating New Year's and so I jumped on and sure enough we had sold more the first week of January then we had
All of December which December was a pretty good month.
The end of January, we just on this one Facebook ad,
we basically had sold $102,000 worth of pizza.
Holy shit, yeah, wow.
So that was nice.
Now did you have the foresight when you did this,
or was there a little bit of dumb luck here?
Did you know to...
Total throw it against the wall did not, do now even the timing though like I mean January 3rd to put a weight loss
advertisement out. I mean that's pretty brilliant. I mean yeah, right so that that was our naysayers said to me well
That's because it's January and everybody's trying to lose weight and look at gym parking lots. They're full and that's gonna change and
and look at gym parking lots, they're full, and that's gonna change.
And no, we have learned who our demographic is for Facebook,
and then we also our Instagram,
we started at the end of March,
we're now at 36,000 people following us.
So we know what that demographic is,
and we've really spent a lot of time studying it.
We're now eight women.
We've hired eight of us now.
That's why you guys don't hire men.
No.
But not allowed.
That's not true.
I'm not exactly that.
We would hire all of you guys.
It's okay, they're dumb.
We're not sure.
We would.
It's a good strategy.
We'd love to work with you.
We'll fire Adam soon anyway.
Come on, we made pizzas for you guys.
No, seriously though, it started out as just kind of throwing things against the wall
to see what worked.
And we started getting them following.
And then we really started studying our audience.
And we made customer service our number one priority.
So we really, I mean our customers are our family.
I still do.
I still try to, but I used to write every single person that was buying our
crust, a letter, a handwritten letter.
I try to write the top 50 people every month, and we just really connect with them.
It's interesting because we have so many people on Rachel talk, so many people call in and
write in that this product's changed their life, which sounds
funny, but you know, I mean, it's the business itself.
It's cool.
She have a lot of celebrities that are eating it now, and it's like exciting as you meet
like, you know, like a lot of really cool people that love the craft.
I mean, you guys love the craft.
Like my mom, right?
Yeah, right?
You get to eat this.
You get to eat this.
We're the e-list.
But you get these people that, I mean, we have this little kid, just like five, his
name's Gavin, he's going through cancer treatment and loves pizza.
I might even cry just telling the story and couldn't eat pizza because he had to change
his diet because of his cancer treatment.
They send in this video of him eating pizza and that kind of stuff.
You're like, this really is life-changing for some people.
I mean, a lot of people Amy created it
because she has an autoimmune disease.
I mean, that, I mean, there's just,
and kind of forgotten about demographic of people
that you don't even really think about.
Yeah, people lose weight because it has low carbs
and it only has four ingredients, it's awesome.
But like this is like a game changer.
You're giving people more options, right?
And you guys have actually been able to take some
of these crusts and bring them to like
actual piece of joints, right?
They're buying them and giving people more options to come in.
That's great.
We're in restaurants.
We're in a lot of grocery stores.
We just got in our first biggest chain.
But primarily, most of our sales is still e-commerce.
And it's been-
Well, that's the way business is now.
I mean, I really, I really,
we've now met through doing this podcast,
businesses, very successful that that's all,
almost all of their business is through e-commerce.
It's really changing.
Business is changing quite a bit.
But on the autoimmune topic, you know,
it's this, there's this growing epidemic
in modern societies in American particular where you have this
explosion of autoimmune diseases.
It's not really being talked about a lot, but if you look at charts of autoimmune diseases
and you look at how fast they've gone up in terms of percentage of the population, it
has literally exploded and it seems to be exponential in growth.
All autoimmune issues, and we're not even counting the mild,
you know, irritable bowel syndrome type stuff.
I'm talking about the main ones like,
like you said, like lupus or crones,
where it's just exploding.
And although it's not recognized yet by Western medicine,
many people in this field,
naturopaths, experts who work in this field and people who suffer from these disorders will tell you that
One of the worst things they can eat when they have this these types of issues are our wheat-based type foods
gluten and that eliminates a shit ton of food it eliminates all your whole category of foods eat like I'm
I'm a child the best ones it is and look I'm a Italian like I don't eat gluten and I
also have autoimmune issues and I
can't eat gluten. It just they just
it just caused me to have more
problems which means I can't eat
most of the foods that we serve
you know past as they have options
now like made with like organic
corn and rice and stuff and it's it's
not bad but pizza I've not had any
well I think you should clarify can and can't too,
because it's not that you can't. You can, you could,
but you feel like shit afterwards. Absolutely garbage.
And I think a lot of people didn't,
and I was somebody who didn't really connect this
till later on. I was just sharing with the boys like,
man, if I have something like that, I'm very connected now
to how my body feels afterwards. And who doesn't love
eating pizza? I mean, eating pizza is fantastic, but God,
I tell you what, the next day, I am paying for it all day long
and I still would put myself through that
because of how much I like pizza.
So to be able to enjoy to get some of that craving
or that love for pizza that I have,
to be able to do that and not feel that way afterwards.
And I mean, that to me is everything.
And it's made with not just a replacement, but a really good ingredient.
So cauliflower, part of the cruciferous family, very high in compounds that are being studied
right now for their effects on cancer.
Sulfurifane is one of them.
Indul 3 carbonyls is another one in particular that directly has been shown to fight hormone sensitive cancers
in particular breast cancers.
And there's lots of science going into them.
And so to get getting people to eat more of these cruciferous vegetables, it's a freaking
great thing, you know.
So win all the way around.
It's a win-win and a couple things I want to say, western medicine, that's interesting
because when I was having rashes all over my body, didn't realize what was going on. This is prior to being diagnosed. They were treating it as
poison oak, poison ivy. I was getting shots of steroids, which heavy doses of steroids,
mask, lupus, the effects of lupus. So that's interesting that you said that. Actually,
Rob Wolfe, I don't know if you're familiar.
Yeah, we're friends with him.
Okay.
We were with him on Monday.
So he had created a gym in Chico, the first CrossFit gym.
And he was him and his wife, Nikki, we're one of our trainers.
And he actually sat me down and said, look, I think you have Lupus.
I think you have an autoimmune deficiency and you need to cut out all your gluten.
He's the one that told you that.
He is the first person to bring it to my attention before getting diagnosed.
Once they ran the tests on me, you have to have positive blood work plus active symptoms
and I had both.
Then they put me on this horrible drug called Placwanelle, which you have to have your eyes
checked regularly.
Is it immune suppressing drug?
Yes.
Okay.
So quickly I got off of that by altering the way I eat.
And I can tell immediately when I eat gluten because I swell up, and I feel arthritic.
And a lot of these disorders start in the gut, and that's what the problem.
So the prevailing theory is that you develop inflammation in the gut and certain compounds,
the body tends to have more of an affinity to recognize as a foreign invader, gluten being
one of them.
And so, and so it's not necessarily that it's not like gluten is evil, but if you have inflammation,
your body's more likely to recognize gluten as a foreign invader.
You develop antibodies against it and then you can get the systemic immune response that can manifest
in different ways. In your particular way, it was lupus. So you're off medication because you changed the way you eat.
What are the foods have you had to eliminate? Pretty much anything white.
And that's why we've created the hashtag,
the new white flower,
because we're coming out with some other products
using cauliflower as a flower base.
Can you talk about those or no?
They're secret, I actually just...
You guys are so damn secret, we couldn't get into that.
The lab, we can't find out what's going to happen.
We're also in advance.
I want you to come to the facility.
I know.
Well, this morning I was with one of the guys that
helps me create products.
And we've got something really exciting coming out.
I'll just give you a little tease.
It's going to have some collagen in it.
So I'm excited.
But we like to keep things really clean and simple.
So just simple ingredients, clean.
I think people really want to know where the ingredients are coming from.
So we're using organic cauliflower now.
And...
Oh, fantastic. So now they're all organic.
The crust themselves are not all organic yet.
We're working on it.
Excellent.
But the cauliflower, which would have a lot of pesticides on it, is organic.
So I think people want to know where they want to be able to read the back of the ingredients
and it doesn't have some funky words on it that they can't pronounce. And then they also want
to know where their ingredients are coming from. That's really important.
It is. And the market is starting to shift in that direction. We partner with a thrive market, for example, which is a company that sells all organic non-JMO products,
but they're super transparent, too, in terms of making sure that where they source their products,
that the workers work in good conditions, and that they are very environmentally sound,
and that they donate and a membership to a family and need, And it's like, the consumer is now demanding all of these things.
Well, we're just talking about this on a podcast yesterday,
getting interviewed and saying that this is the future of business period.
Like, you know, 30 years ago, you didn't have to, we didn't know,
like nobody knows, like you say Pepsi, Coke, like you don't have a name
or a person that comes to mind when you think of these companies,
but the future of business will be that way. You'll say a company and that you'll need to have a name or a person that comes to mind when you think of these companies, but the future of business will be that way.
You'll say a company and that you'll need to have a face or a brand or some sort of reputation behind that because of social media because we can connect to each other so quick and so easily.
So now the consumers demand that there's so much it's so competitive everybody can have a good product now it's like okay now I care about your message where you're sourcing it from, all these other things. So that's an important piece.
Now, have you found through your different social media platforms
that you have different demographics and audiences?
And we're just getting into this now for our business.
And you talked a little bit about this R.
Do you see that?
Where you see like, okay, here, you know,
in this particular platform, we have younger kids.
And here we have, you know, you know, moms. And over, we have younger kids, and here we have, you know,
moms, and over here we've got people
who have autoimmune issues.
Yeah, definitely.
Rachel and I have spent a lot of time
going over social media and really studying
the demographics of each one.
And right now, we're using the platforms,
Instagram and Facebook.
That's our two main.
We do a little bit of Twitter and we have Pinterest.
We're definitely going to start doing podcasts now that we've spent time with you guys. But Rachel,
why don't you tell them a little bit about the differences between Instagram and Instagram?
Well, Instagram seems to definitely be the younger crowd. I mean, they're much more visually inclined
with the photos. If you look at our Instagram, it's kind of started a trend
where people kind of compete against each other
to create these beautiful cauliflower pizza crusts.
And so we see a lot of the millennials on there
with Facebook.
It's definitely like 35 and above.
So we've tested our Facebook ads and targeted
with the exact same ad, like the 20 to 35-age range.
And they do not, I mean, a fraction of the success
that we get from the 35 to 60, mainly targeting women.
I mean, women are the decisions.
Yes.
Decision makers.
They're the buyers, that's very true.
And the product is easy.
It's really easy.
And so I'm a mom of three kids.
I have a 14 year old, 13 year old, nine year old.
So I'm really busy. Running a company, now eight women that we've hired, plus my husband's super busy. So I wanted
to make something that was simple and easy. And I mean, you can whip these out of the freezer
and throw them in the oven and have a meal in 10 minutes.
That's the big difference. I mean, I've made these before, before the company was created.
And they're really tricky to make.
They fall apart, they're time consuming,
trying to get the liquid out of the califower
takes fricking forever.
So when we see people,
Nasey's comment online will say,
oh my gosh, you can just make this yourself.
Like, yeah, go ahead and do it.
Well, I gotta chime in on that,
because we've tried multiple times,
like my wife and I to introduce,
like a different option for pizza,
especially for the kids,
because they just love pizza.
And we've tried to make cauliflower
and like mash it up and like do the entire,
like labor-intensive process.
And it's like an all day event.
And then by the time you get it,
it like falls apart in your hands hands when you go to eat it.
And then the whole thing just crumbles and says,
yeah, that was a cool idea.
And then we just moved on.
So, yeah.
Did you're canceling it?
They did.
They ate it, but it was one of those things where
it didn't really fill them up either.
Because by the time you have all that cauliflower,
you have to mash up, it was this really thin crust. And so anyway, it didn't really fill them up either, because by the time you have all that cauliflower, you have to mash up.
It was this really thin crust and so anyway.
It didn't work out.
So this is definitely one of those products.
We've attempted and failed ourselves too,
because we use cauliflower.
We use it in replace of mashed potatoes
and what else this Katrina,
we've used it in a quite a few recipes.
And we always fail on trying to make it as a bread,
like trying to make it as a bread
and keep it to solidify it.
It's a bind well.
Yeah, it's definitely challenging.
Much easier to order it in your guys.
It's shit to my house.
You can make sandwiches out of ours.
We show this.
Lasagna, Pratata for the next day with your extra ingredients.
See you know the next morning.
Make a Pratata.
Where do we get these?
These are all on your website.
Where we get all these recipes.
They're on the, yes. Okay, okay, cool. Then when you get these, these all, these are on your website, where we get all these recipes? They're on the, yes.
Okay, okay, cool.
Then when you order it, you also get a recipe in your box.
Okay, cool.
But we're gonna come up with a cookbook soon.
We are.
Yeah, launching my box.
Yeah, I was just gonna ask,
what's in the future right now?
Where are you guys putting, I know,
obviously we know what it's like to be growing a business
and I'm sure there's a million things going on and pulling you in different directions
But what are you most excited about in the next you know six months to a year? What's in front of you guys?
So I really want to appeal back to our customer base and we have this following
I have this little subgroup on Facebook that I interact with personally
We I want to offer them something more than Jess Pizza and our other products are coming out.
By the way, we have more than just what I mentioned.
We have a couple that are going to be coming out by January.
I want to be able to offer them some tangible advice, working with some people like yourselves,
like minded people that can give them exercise tips, ways to just make life easier for moms,
busy moms and just in general, anybody,
doesn't have to be a busy mom.
That's just, that's who I relate to.
Also, when we get real personal,
I went through menopause,
Lupus causes menopause to happen early.
So I went through at the age of 40 and 48,
definitely see the effects of going through menopause.
So I'd love to offer women that are in that age range,
some hope on some ways to just feel better.
So what's cool is the cruciferous vegetables
when you consume them in adult-three carbonyl.
I believe gets converted to something called DIM,
which can convert estrogen
to a form that is more beneficial to women who go through menopause.
In fact, you can buy it as a supplement, but one of the best ways to get it is naturally.
So should help.
Yes.
Okay, cool.
Very cool.
I take no hormone pills.
Excellent.
I see a lot of pizza.
That's a good commercial right?
Yeah, I just say that's an advertised,
they don't advertise it.
I'm so impressed with how much you know, by the way,
he's a smart one.
Yeah, he's the ass of Jesus the great.
Yeah, it's all random information.
It's, it was, it's useful now that I have a podcast.
Otherwise it was useful whatsoever.
So very cool.
So looking ahead, you've got these new products.
You guys, 2017 have exploded.
Yes, I think I told you we ended the year negative in 2016.
This year to date so far, we're a little over 3 million in sales on just e-commerce.
That doesn't include grocery or restaurant.
Congratulations.
Yeah, so I had to learn quickly what that meant and how to grow fast.
That's fantastic.
Yeah, how much of were you scrambling when you grew that fast because I would imagine
you're used to-
That's all the problems right there.
Right, right away.
It's interesting because I had somebody come to me
at a food show that wanted to invest in our company
and I was really excited.
I thought this is the answer.
This person's gonna help me.
But they wanted to change the integrity of the product.
They didn't want to make it handcrafted anymore.
They wanted me to add some fillers,
which there are other
cauliflower pizza crusts out there, by the way.
And I wasn't willing to do that, so that investment opportunity didn't happen, but I feel like
if we stay true to who we are, we stay clean, we know where our ingredients come from, we
don't compromise to make a buck as far as,
you can make it a lot cheaper when you add fillers.
It's more automated.
I think our customers will stay loyal to us
and they'll realize the quality of the product.
We get a lot of diabetics type one and type two.
I definitely want to you spend 2018 working
with diabetics more.
It's amazing that there are kids with diabetes now.
10 years ago, there were no kids that had Type 2 diabetes.
When we went through personal training certification,
when we first became trainers years ago, they didn't call it.
They called it adult onset diabetes.
It wasn't called Type 2 because kids didn't have it.
So something crazy is going on.
There's a lot of stuff that's going on right now,
but you've got kids who are just,
so something needs to change.
Yeah, and I mean, we see an increase in all kinds of things,
hyperactive disorders and all kinds of things
that kids are being treated for.
And I really believe the source of it is our food.
Yeah, you wouldn't get any disagreement from us.
We talk about this all the time on the podcast.
So excellent.
Well, very cool, exciting to see you guys.
How did you guys meet?
How did you guys?
Oh my goodness, how did we meet?
So we were both actually health coaches
a couple of years ago.
And we kind of partnered together on a few things.
We had an office inside of a gym.
And when I moved to Portland, we kind of separated a few things. We had an office inside of a gym, and when I moved to Portland,
we kind of separated a little bit,
and when she decided to launch this company,
I was working at 24-hour fitness as a general manager,
and I knew that this was gonna be huge.
As somebody who is trying to make the damn crusts,
and they're such a pain in the ass to make,
I was like, this is gonna be amazing,
and my husband was like, you need to get involved in this. And I reached out to Amy as a, hey, you need me help. And
and here I am now. I started off part time and you manage all the like social media marketing
stuff or what is your role? So I am the events and PR coordinators. So we do a lot of different
events and ranging from like, you know, pre-party at the Emmys to food shows to trade shows
We're doing a pizza party next month for the cast of Hamilton
And so I plan all of those and do a lot of our peer work
There is so much work. She does a lot of everything. I do a lot of everything. She was amazing
I put her in the gym because I knew that she would be more appealing
She was working. She was at that time. I mean, she was doing bodybuilding contests
and a mom of four, four kids.
She took second place.
She took second place.
She took second place.
Keep on.
And I was-
Was this a figure of-
No, it's bikini.
Also, very cool.
It was awesome years ago.
Like, you need to be in my gym office.
Yeah.
And then when she left, I'm like,
I know we're gonna work together again someday.
Very cool.
What a great story.
Yeah, feel good story.
I like to see successful companies like yours
with just the right message.
I like how you try to stay true to your brand.
I also think it's a smart business decision.
In the past, it would have been, you know, people would have
said, well, that was dumb, you should have just gone with the, but
today, like Adam's saying, with transparency, I think if you don't stay
true to your message, and you don't really stay true to your core,
especially your core base, you're setting yourself up for the flash in the
pan success and failure, you know, later on, we've seen this happen now and fitness is starting to happen
Quite a bit. So let that be a lesson if you're yeah, if you're an entrepreneur like
Be honest be true because the days of fooling people are are kind of over
I agree. Yeah people read I mean the internet
People are looking things up all the time googling by the way we're in Google now
Okay, so we're in Google now, these are our crusts, but yeah,
just throw that out there.
But yeah, people are smart now,
they're reading labels, they care.
I mean, excellent.
Where can they now, where can they find your product?
Give yourself a plug here.
So go to www.cali, like California,
C-A-L-I, flower, like the new white flower.
F-L-O-U-R foods.com.
Ordered online right now.
We're having a tremendous special that includes
this cool pizza pan, $5 across free shipping.
And then also we're in, I couldn't even name all the stores,
because most of them are mom and pop specialty stores.
In the Bay Area, we're at Molly Stones, we're at United, we're at...
I think the easiest place is online.
I mean, we actually went back and forth on whether or not we were even going to stores.
Is that even worth it for us?
So many of our customers wanted to be able to have a place to purchase it.
But I think the easiest way is online. We actually have a special discount code for your guys
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Look at you guys up. Yeah, I think what'll probably happen is you guys will just keep blowing up through e-commerce
And then you're gonna have the chains probably come to you and be like we want a carrier and then oh pro ask you on and yeah
the chains probably come to you and be like we want to carry and then Obrace you on and yeah.
Sobrace should, yeah, should eat this.
We'll put it in a good word.
By then, my pump will be as big as Obrace is when we might ask.
It's like six points on Weight Watchers.
Is it really?
Yeah, she endorses Weight Watchers at six points.
But the entire nine ends.
There you go.
There's that nine ends.
Yeah, we'll end on that.
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