Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 718: Detriments of Eating Post Workout, The Correlation Between Fitness & Business Success, Why Humans Haven't Adapted to Processed Foods & MORE
Episode Date: March 2, 2018Kimera-Quah! In this episode of Quah, sponsored by Kimera Koffee (kimerakoffee.com, code "mindpump" for 10% off), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about if there are any benefits for “f...asting” or waiting to eat for a couple hours after working out, why our bodies haven’t adapted to highly processed foods in the last hundred years, the correlation ratio between their fitness success and business success and what keeps them authentic and grounded as Mind Pump grows. Refining your taste and feeding the soul. The guys talk about getting older, their choice of what they listen to and the volume! (5:48) Creating food intolerances through your mouth? Bad oral health and the connection to autoimmune issues. (12:22) Making deal with present self to future self. The great internal debate of can’t vs. don’t and the art of choice. (21:12) 3D printing guns?! Hear the guy’s thoughts and how this type of technology is disrupting the future. 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Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews.
In this episode of Mind Pong, don't do that.
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Current events and introductory conversation.
Did you preach at the beginning or was in the middle?
It was around the we felt like talking a lot. It was fun. It was fun. We talk about the changes of priorities and tastes as you age.
Oh, yeah, I like wearing not food more like things that you're into. Yeah, I like wearing white
briefs now. And I mean, tidy wide East. Yeah. We talk about the importance of dental health and believe it or not, it's connection.
Right.
Could your gums be fucking your tummy up?
Your gut health.
This was a South speculation moment.
I bet you I'm right.
We talked about your two selves.
Trust me, you're not going to want to miss that part.
It talk, I talk about your tyrannical dictator that you create within yourself and we talk about creating lasting
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Then we get into the questions.
The first question was, we've talked a lot
about post workout eating, but are there any benefits
to fasting after a workout?
So like, what if you waited a few hours after a workout?
Are there any benefits?
You'll be surprised.
There actually are some, find out in this episode.
Then we talked about somebody asks us,
if the body adapts so quickly,
why aren't humans adapting and evolving
to be able to utilize highly processed foods?
Like how long is it gonna take
before eating pop tarts and frozen pizza is good for us?
Yeah, we're just not letting these weak people die.
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That's it.
Then somebody asks us,
what is the correlation between fitness success
and business success?
And is there one?
Is there a correlation?
The answer yes.
And no.
But we have a good conversation.
So listen to this episode.
And finally, if we get big enough,
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Yeah.
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I was watching Bryant Gumball.
I don't know if it's like getting older,
but now I like some of these sport shows
and things that are more,
God, what's the word I'm looking for?
Are you familiar?
I doubt you are.
You kind of know Bryant Gumball is.
He does real sports on HBO
and it's kind of a, it's normally like an hour.
They kind of combine like news with sports.
He's like a nerdy black dude, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, totally.
Exactly.
And so I didn't really watch it much as a kid.
I mean, he's been doing it forever, but I'm drawn to it now.
It's kind of funny.
I was trying to unpack that and figure out.
When old.
Yeah, that's it.
I had that moment.
It's happening, feeling that, but bro, how many?
I mean, you start listening to talk radio.
I guess now podcast, you don't listen to music anymore. Like when that happened, It's happening, feeling that, but. Bro, how many? I'm like, I'm like, I'm like,
I'm like, I'm like, I'm like,
I'm like, I'm like, I'm like,
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I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm music, I make a conscious effort to never like fully consume one and not the others like I always try and like kind of rotate because they each
Provide different things for me sure that I value and that I enjoy and so it's not like a I don't want now, but I and it makes me really appreciate it like because I did really I was as a kid really really into music like big time
Yeah, I've been making an effort to try and keep that established or like look for new bands,
new sounds and stuff, but at the same time,
I'm so motivated to, you know,
listen to audiobooks right now,
and like really diving into that.
I'll tell you what I noticed with music is that,
so you know, Jessica's eight years younger than me, right?
So she's, that's a decent, it's not a huge age gap,
but it's enough for me to notice the difference between
someone who's a different, eight years. So I can tell, it's significant. It'll show you the age gap, but it's enough for me to notice the difference between someone who's eight years.
So I can tell it's significant.
It'll show you the difference between, you know, younger and older.
I can't realize you guys were having that experience for some reason.
I mean, because she's very mature.
Oh, she's super, super wise.
She's always been that way apparently.
Her family says that when she was like six, she'd have these like really deep conversations.
So it attracted me most of anyway.
I'll come home sometimes and she'll be cooking or doing something and she'll have the music on and it's just fucking loud
Like it's super loud and I'll walk in and I'll be like I can't like it's too loud can we turn it down a little bit?
And I used to beat it. Oh, it hurts my ears. I used to be that way when I was two
Did you have a stereo system in your car ever? Yeah, dude, I used to have fucking subwoofers.
I used to love that.
Now when I listen to music, it's like,
Did you check yourself mentally?
Like, oh my God, did I just say that?
Totally.
Even in the car, she'll want to turn it up
and I'll want to turn it down and be like,
I can't enjoy it, it's too loud.
Oh God, no.
It's sad.
Tell me that doesn't happen here.
Oh, it does.
I catch my, I'm with Justin though.
I have these moments and I kind of check myself, you know?
I'm trying to push it off.
Right.
I think though it's not,
like I got annoyed by one of my nephews,
Katrina's nephews because we are all,
they always want to drink and party.
And I forget what it's like to be 21 to 24
and like that's what you're doing.
Like that's all you're,
like you just have so much energy to do.
You look at it like doing.
Yeah.
And they like get mad at me because I don't want to take fucking shots
on like, you know, Friday night at whatever time
that they're going to out.
Because they're not, they're not, they're not in general.
Right.
Like I don't want to get fucked up anymore.
Dude.
What appeal is left there?
But I check myself.
I go, I can't be mad at them because now I sound like a fucking
old painting in the ass. I can't, I can't get down. Yeah, but I sound like a fucking old painting the ass.
I can't get down.
Yeah, but why do these things happen?
Your body changes.
Like for sure, if I go party with shots, it's going to take me a decent four or five days
worth of recovery.
Especially, Yeager.
And I got to work.
Yeager.
So a lot of these 20-year-olds, you don't got to work, dude.
You can just fucking sleep into whatever.
My kids, they're not hung over like I am.
So, you know, 7 a.m., they're up ready to fucking rock and roll.
I would hope they're not in there.
It's just not, yeah, yeah, that's, you know what?
That's the other idea.
That's another idea, right?
Like, oh, you know what?
I'm gonna have to wake up early tomorrow
because the kids, I don't need everything.
Yeah, I changed everything.
Oh, yeah, I changed everything.
Don't you, I kind of getting,
circling back to the whole, me getting back to listening
to all these and rotating.
And I feel like it's, it feeds your in a sense and I and I wonder if like
This is part of the process of dying is that people just you start to
Wow listen listen like I'm sick. I'm sticking with it and it starts at one point where you start letting go of these things that that do feed you and
And let think and then we make this excuse of it
It's just not a priority anymore
But when you think back like those there's a lot of joy or a lot of things that came from those things
that you've kind of let go
or you no longer do anymore.
I think it depends.
I think it depends on if you start to...
Part of it is you...
If things feed you differently or different person.
I believe that.
I believe your priority shift.
I mean, we know this.
I mean, on a cellular level,
we're a whole different human within seven years.
Yeah.
And it's kind of funny how that works
because if you look back, you seven years. So, and it's kind of funny how that works because if you look back,
you seven years ago was really different
than you probably three, and that year's kind of makes sense.
But there's also the emotional change in growth.
I could think back and think of one or two year periods
where I was drastically different in a short period of time
because of some kind of an event
or life changingchanging something or
Realization I had so you just grow and change and like I didn't appreciate like I used to love
Going into busy areas with lots of people and I still enjoy that don't get me wrong. It's still fun
But now I appreciate going being around less people differently and call it what you will I just think when you're younger, you find excitement and new things,
and then when you get older, you,
I think you just,
because why is there, I don't know.
It's more comfortable with your own skin.
I think you refine your taste.
That's probably true.
You know what I'm saying?
You find out certain things that feed the soul
or feed what you,
your things that you want.
Well, think about this way.
When you're a 20 year old kid,
you just wanna have a lot of sex, right?
You're working your way through all the novelties.
You just want to have a lot of sex, right?
So much to the point that almost everything that you do throughout the week kind of revolves
around.
Just having a lot of sex, right?
Volume, volume of sex.
Then when you're 30s, you go for the, for the, for the, for the hogging.
Yeah, then when you go for the, that sounds like a good idea.
Wow. Wow. hogging. Yeah, then when you go for the that sounds like a good idea. Wow.
Wow.
Hogging.
Yeah, I haven't heard that term in a long time.
It happens.
Yeah, that's a that's last resort.
Yeah, but when you then when you hit your 30s and 40s,
it's like you don't necessarily want just a bunch of sex.
You want really good quality.
Yeah, you know what I mean?
So like I don't I might not want to like get smashed a lot now
But but when I do drink I want quality like I want to like it needs to be meaning not just me getting smashed
I want to just who I'm with when I'm drinking the you know the the reasoning behind it changes
So I guess you're right. You just refine right? I just refine your taste dude. So let so yesterday this happens to me every once
While I was sitting there and I just started thinking.
And sometimes I get into these states of mind where I get just this,
just flight of ideas and many of them seem, like, breakthrough to me.
And it just happens, like, I'll be in the state of mind and I'll get one.
And I'll fucking write down.
Should we be sharing this on air?
Absolutely.
Why?
I don't know, you can give some brilliant idea, Roy. Should we talk about this first? Let's not monetize this on air. Absolutely. Why? I don't know, you can give some brilliant idea, should we talk about this first?
Let's not monetize this.
Oh, no, no, no, this isn't something.
It's just a concept.
Oh man, it's just a concept.
So I was thinking about the process
of developing food intolerances,
leaky gut syndrome.
And for the listeners who may not know how that works,
is when in the context of inflammation,
the gut, the junctions between
the cells of the gut that separate your U from what is inside or inside your gut, which
by the way is not really in your body until it goes through the cell wall and gets absorbed,
that cell wall, when it's inflamed, the junctions space out and then food particles or molecules
or protein particles pass through when they're not supposed to
and your body recognizes those as fornenvators
develops antibodies and now you have a food intolerance
and this is why all of a sudden foods
that you could normally eat,
you now can't digest them anymore, they bother.
They rejects.
So that's what leaky gets in drum or the medical term
is intestinal wall hyperpermibility.
So.
How common do you think this is?
Because we were talking yesterday with Dr. Mali,
and we kind of asked this a little bit,
like how common do you think that it is
for people to have leaky gut,
some sort of leaky gut syndrome?
I think in the context of modern lifestyle,
it's probably very common.
It's probably way more common than people realize.
It is, and yeah, it in various forms, right?
Because it's gonna show up in different forms.
That's right.
If we had to put a percentage on it,
what would you guesstimate?
I mean, just based off of the experience of people
that we've dealt with.
Think about the average person you've worked with.
Think about some of the issues that you've worked
with them through that maybe you weren't aware of,
that could be connected to poor gut health.
I 100% believe more than half.
Oh, I think it's more than that.
I think it's a lot more than that,
especially as you get older,
because it's just more time.
Right.
You know, like, find me a 30-year-old
who now can't eat a food
that they used to be able to eat 10 years ago.
You know what I mean?
It's gonna be hard.
I know you most people can point to one thing.
Now find me someone that's free of some type of mild autoimmune type issue,
whether it be a skin issue, digestive issue. And then tell me how many are suffering from some
of these things and don't realize how their body is expressing it because it's different than
when everybody else they've heard. So I think it's way more common than we realize, unfortunately,
we don't necessarily have a test for it until the symptoms show up. And it's inside your body,
so it's not like your skin where I can look at my skin and
be like, oh shit, my skin's inflamed.
Like we can't really tell what that looks like unless it's like really extreme, right?
So I was thinking about this and I'm like, huh, the digestive process begins in the mouth,
right?
And I know that, and there are studies that show this that,
if you have bad oral health, let's say you have
your gums bleed, which is actually quite common.
It's actually quite common that people have gums
that may bleed when they brush their teeth
or when they floss.
They've actually shown that if you have some type
of gum disease, even mild, that it's strongly correlated
to heart disease, and mild, that it's strongly correlated to heart disease.
And they think it's because bacteria travels
through the gums into the body,
can get to the heart cause inflammation of the heart.
So now I'm thinking, holy fuck,
you're eating food in the context of poor oral health,
you could also be creating food intolerances
just through your mouth.
Oh yeah, through the bacteria that's already like sitting dormant, you know, within your teeth.
Bacteria or food part? Did you run that by like a Dr. Ruscio? Do you know?
No, I don't run it by anybody.
Yeah. This is just a thought that I was having because I'm thinking, well, if you're eating food
and you're chewing on food and, you know, it doesn't have to even go down into your stomach.
If you have poor oral health and you have gums that kind of bleed a little bit or whatever, that food or particles could get
into your bloodstream and your body could develop
an immune reaction to it.
What are with the likelihood of that, is though?
I think it might be high.
I'm guessing, I mean, I'm totally this
again speculating, but.
That would be a great question for Mike.
I feel like most dentists, I've known are like super healthy.
You know, like, they really have like, I don't know.
If they've like very forward thinking and like most of them
have are pretty familiar with functional medicine
and everything else, the ones that I've talked to.
I know, I'm trying to think, I'm trying to
try to write my friend out on the tennis that I know that.
Yeah, I mean, think about it this way.
Like think of something.
I definitely don't know.
It is a very like crucial part of your health.
Well, think about this way.
If think of something you're allergic to normally that you don't eat like like pollen right you breathe in pollen it causes it in you know
Allergies to imagine if you took some of that pollen and you like rubbed it in an open sore
Like you might create a much worse immune reaction in fact
I you probably would I would assume no I get I get break out and, hives and stuff when, like, I'll get all this,
like, kind of red rash, so I'm allergic to pollen.
Yeah.
And when it gets, when it gets on the dogs,
and that's why I have to bathe them every week.
Because if they, if I go two weeks without bathing,
then they've got so much pollen on them
that just from me petting them,
I break out and rashes and stuff.
So, so dental health is extremely important
for just total health, which I knew that already
in regards to heart health because there's already been studies on that.
But in terms of developing food intolerances, it's important.
And here's the other side of it, too.
What contributes to good oral health?
Well, there's the obvious, right?
Brush your teeth, floss, all that other shit.
But the, that's a lot of obvious contributes very, very, very largely to oral health.
And that's your diet.
A lot of people don't realize just how much and dental damage.
Your diet, well, yeah, yeah, just how much your diet contributes to your oral health.
So like if your microbiome and your mouth is off, you're going to get lots of cavities,
and you're going to get some gum disease and stuff like that.
And that's from just your, you know, what you eat,
you know, normally.
And then there's a doctor,
can't remember his name now.
What's that website dug with?
Western Price.
Thank you.
So Western Price, you guys familiar with
with Dr. Western Price?
Yeah. Okay, so he was a dentist that traveled the world
and he documented people's teeth around the world
and then he documented hunter-gatherers,
modern hunter-gatherers teeth.
And he was from modern Western societies
and he dealt with, you know, cavities and braces
and I mean, the amount of kids that need braces
in modern Western societies is pretty high,
especially when you consider,
before braces were invented,
how the fuck did that work?
Like, you know, if your teeth are bad enough,
that would probably take away your ability to survive
and eat, and cavities could for sure kill you
if you're a caveman, like you can't fix that
if it becomes an infection that can go up
into your sinus, it's got a lot of problems.
You know, having to remove wisdom teeth
as often as we do.
So he went into these modern hunter gatherers
and he took pictures of their teeth
because he was fucking blown away
that everybody had super straight teeth.
All their teeth, nobody had a cavity.
He couldn't believe it.
They were not brushing their teeth.
Yes, the Western diet that's created all this totally.
They weren't brushing their teeth.
They didn't do any of the modern practices
of keeping oral health. And yet they had had these like and he took all their pictures
he wrote a book on it and you could see like these really nice teeth my dad
did not brush his teeth as he was poor didn't brush his teeth as a kid they didn't couldn't afford
toothbrushes and I just asked him I how the fuck did you clean your teeth he's like oh I just
use my finger and wipe my teeth.
Didn't, didn't brush his teeth,
didn't go to a dentist until he was in his mid 20s.
For the first time, you went to a dentist here in America,
went to the dentist and they could not believe
that he never been to a dentist
because my dad's never had a cavity
and he's got the straightest teeth you've ever seen.
And he ate, you know, he was poor and so his family, they ate, you've ever seen. And he ate, he was poor, and so his family ate,
like meat and legumes and fruits and vegetables
and things that they grew.
And he had just excellent, it's kind of interesting, right?
It's interesting how this, all these factors add up.
So I'll just think about that.
I thought, gee, I wonder how many of these autoimmune issues
we can cause just because we also have shitty mouth health.
And then we, foods and that goes in our mouth.
This doesn't seem like everything that we seek as far as pleasure wise, we eat foods and that goes in our mouth. Does this seem like everything that we seek
as far as pleasure wise, we have to make this deal
with ourself.
Totally.
When you think about that,
this whole thing of like seeking after pleasure,
it's like and chasing these things that we want to,
and it's like whatever it's feeding,
there's a price that it pays,
and are you willing to take that?
And is it once or twice not a big deal,
but is it something I do on a regular basis,
could fuck me up? So this lead, so that's almost like you know exactly what I'm gonna talk about. So
that leads me to the next thought that I had. And you're right whenever you're sacrificing for
something for the future so like okay right now I'm gonna work out so that I'm healthier tomorrow
or right now I'm not gonna eat this cake so I'm healthy tomorrow what you're doing is you're making a deal
With with your present self for your future self, right? That's
Psychologically speaking that's exactly what you're doing so you're putting hand the barn. Yeah, it's exactly what you're doing So if I eat this cake right now my present self is gonna really fucking enjoy this but
My future self is not gonna like this so much
I'm gonna feel bad and if I do this enough time I'm gonna become
unhealthy obese and all these other things
so you're always bargaining between your future and
your present self so I'm I was thinking about and Dr. Jordan Peterson talks about this in his book
12 rules and I thought it was absolutely brilliant that
You know, that's the origin of sacrifice like the origin of if you look at religions a sacrificed animals in ancient times, and really it's a very primitive way of doing that, right? You're sacrificing
them now for later, and then their eyes, they're doing it for God, but in the reality, if
you're planning and you're smart enough to be able to have an extra animal to sacrifice,
you're probably going to do better off later on, which is probably why that practice lasted
for thousands of years. So I'm thinking about this, and then I'm thinking about how tough it is for people to quote,
unquote, stick with a diet or stick with an exercise program.
And I'm thinking about this, and I'm starting to realize that this is how complicated we are
as humans.
This is the bane of human consciousness we create these separate parts of ourselves that we
Have debates and discussions with like there's two parts of us and if for those you don't fucking believe this
Okay, how many times have you said this I can't have that?
Mm-hmm. I can't eat that right now
What do you mean you can't who's making you forcing you to not? No, it's not. Oh, I am. Oh, I am forcing myself.
Who is this other you?
Well, it's the future you.
And here's one of the reasons why,
and this was a paradigm shattering,
fucking moment for me last night.
Literally kept me up thinking about this last night.
When you're, how many of you,
I mean, in this room right now,
raise your hand when you like it
when someone forces you to do something.
Nobody, in fact, you forced me to do anything.
My instinct is to do the opposite, because I hate tyranny.
I don't like being forced.
Nobody does, this is natural.
This is a natural state of being, kids are like this,
and so are the adults.
Like the second you're forced to do something,
you don't want to do it because you don't like being forced. If you want to do something or you choose to do something, you don't wanna do it because you don't like being forced.
If you want to do something
or you choose to do something,
it's totally different, totally different thought process.
So I'm thinking to myself and I'm like, wow,
the reason why people have so much trouble
with nutrition and exercise and discipline
is because they are feeling tyrannized,
they're feeling tyranny from their future self.
In other words, I am not letting myself do this
versus I don't wanna do this,
to completely different schools of thought.
So if I'm at a birthday party and there's cake
and I'm looking at it, I'm like, wow, that looks really good,
but I can't eat it.
I'm feeling like I myself am forcing myself to not eat it, which nobody
fucks.
Internal conflict.
Nobody likes that.
Nobody will stay doing that for too long. At some point,
you're going to rebel against the tyranny of yourself.
So really, it's realizing that the two people that you're
that you're that are arguing and one is forcing the other is a
false belief. It's a psychological phenomena
you've created within yourself
because there's some value that comes with it.
But if that other you that you've created in your own mind
starts to become a dictator and starts to force you,
or at least you start to feel like he forces you,
you are not gonna feel good about what you're doing
and you're not gonna stick to it.
And so what you need to do, and it's extremely powerful
to do this, and I've done this myself, is rather than
saying I have to do this, is realize that you are not
forcing anything.
The reason why you're not doing it is because you're
choosing to not want to.
And I practice that when I don't want the cake, you know, that's it
Yeah, I don't want it makes such a big difference. It's not it's not that I can't have it like that's awful
No, and you know what you know what who was I just talking to it? Who was it that we were just hanging out with it
Says the if I if I can't I must who we just oh is Ben yeah, but you've been must have said that like five different times
Think about think about all the shit that you hate doing
because you feel like you're being forced to do it?
And if you just changed the paradigm of it
and realize that you, first off,
you can't force yourself to do anything
because it's you, really.
So it's not like you forcing yourself
unless you were literally two different people
but you're not.
Realize that there isn't, that doesn't even exist.
The reality is, you don't want to.
Now think of all the shit that you hate to do because of that.
Think of it.
Like I hated doing shit around the house.
Like I hated it.
Why?
Because I felt like I was being forced.
And there was a moment where I remember specifically, this was when I was married.
It was towards the end of my marriage when remember specifically, this was when I was married,
it was towards the end of my marriage, when I had a lot of me and my wife at the time had
lots of issues, lots of, there goes way deep, I'm not even going to go into it because then
it'll make one person look bad and all that stuff, I'm not going to do that. But one of the things
that she had an issue with me was that it didn't help around the house. And I didn't want to listen
to that because I had my own issues with her. And so I'm like, if you don't listen to me, I'm not
going to listen to you. And this is just common when people lose communication and it turns in a bunch of bullshit.
But at towards the end, I said, okay, you know what I'm going to try?
I'm going to try doing exactly what she's telling me to do.
That way we get it out of the way so we can address these other issues that I find important
because I figured she's probably the same boat I'm at where she's not going to listen to me
because I'm not listening to her.
So I'm gonna just do what she wants me to do.
Now when I did that, I did it because I wanted to,
because I thought to myself, I wanna do this.
I'm gonna choose to do this.
So then I would be washing dishes, I'd be folding laundry,
and then I'd find myself enjoying it,
which was very strange for me,
because any other time I did it before,
I felt like I was being forced, I fucking hated it.
Changed your purpose, totally changed everything. it, which was very strange for me, because any other time I did it before, I felt like I was being forced, I fucking hated it.
Change your purpose.
Totally changed everything.
And you can apply, and I'll tell you what, your thought process is everything when it
comes to your meaning and the quality of your life and getting shit done.
Do you believe the greater the sacrifice, the greater the reward then?
Of course.
Yeah.
It makes things worthy. What is the,
what is the, what is the prize without the work? It's nothing, you know what I mean? I mean,
you know, it's like, I've used this example so many times, like people who win the lottery,
they've done studies on these, like these people are, if they're depressed before they win that money,
two, three years later, they're depressed again.
Because there was no value in it.
It's just cash.
Now, of course, if you're starving, you don't have a roof over your head, that's totally
different.
But a lot of people win the lottery, have those things.
So then they get all this money, and then they're super excited for a couple of years,
and they realize that back where they were started, where they were before, or sometimes
worse, sometimes even worse, because they now realize that that wasn't the answer, right?
Yeah, it's interesting. I mean, I felt that the entire time I was in school,
in every part of the educational process, I felt like, you know, it was mandated.
I had to go in this direction. I had to learn this subject and
getting outside of that environment and then going back and revisiting a lot of
topics and studying on my own, it's been like game changer because now I want to do it.
Now I want to pursue more knowledge in that direction.
I mean, that's just something I've noticed about myself with just about everything.
And the same thing with cleaning, it's the same thing.
If anybody tells me to do something at one point,
like there's an immediate resistance,
but you know, that's where I, too.
I try to check myself on that and then try to figure out
how I can make it like my own momentum in that direction.
And so I'm not like confrontational with somebody trying
to tell me something because, you know,
like that's not gonna work either. No, dude. It's literally the core foundation of
Intuitive eating, you know, if you will like it's the core of it like I'm eating this because I want to
I'm not eating that because I just I don't want to and people confuse that it's so hard though
And people people don't understand their own emotions, dude
They don't understand like and so they're sometimes reading the wrong signals is how I think
Well, I mean think about that like think you're having that you got to have a serious level awareness to really be able to
Unpack that break that down like it was so it was like as clear as day to me. I think into myself. I'm like
I you know what I should do this thing. I need to do this thing
I'm supposed to do this thing. I'm supposed to do this thing.
I'm not supposed to do that thing and then I'm thinking like I don't want to fucking do that, you know?
You know, but but I you know I have to and I'm thinking to myself, I'm like wait a minute
Who's forcing me to do this? Like who's literally forcing me and I'm like myself?
Who is this other me? I'm like it's this fictional
Character that I've created that is being
a dictator over me. No wonder I don't want to fucking do it. Nobody wants to do anything
they're being forced. I'm like, but I created that. It's in my control. So then as soon as
I killed that character and then realized, well, the reason why I created that character
in the first place, like think of it this way, the reason why I created this dictator
in the first place that's forcing me to not eat sugar, for example,
is because I see the value in not eating sugar.
I see so much value in not eating sugar
that I created this fictional character to force me to do it.
But wait a minute, if I see so much value in it,
I don't need to create this fictional dictator.
Should want to.
I just, I don't want to.
I literally don't want to.
So why don't I just not?
I'm literally seeing, like, you know how you see
the like a devil and an angel on your shoulder?
It's fiction, that's course.
But like, almost like a little dictator
and then a little hippie guy.
Like, yeah man, you can do it.
It's about love.
Yeah, that's what I see with you.
Why do you think that?
Yeah.
Come on, Sal, love yourself.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You deserve it.
Yeah, you know what's funny, buddy?
That's been depicted in cartoons.
So yeah, movies for so long.
It's a great and smart.
Everybody can, okay, so in this is what,
I'm getting this from the book.
By the way, I guarantee it's because I've been reading
12 Roles of Life because he talks about how.
Of course, it's the reason why I'm on the same page
as you.
Yeah, I miss, makes a lot of sense, bro.
He talks about psychology a lot, right?
Because he's a clinical psychologist,
and he talks about how like a lot of sense, bro. He talks about psychology a lot, right? Because he's a clinical psychologist, and he talks about how, like a lot of times
we will create an argument.
Like when you're thinking what you're really doing
is you're debating two different sides of something.
That's what real thinking is, right?
You're trying to process something
by creating two different ends of it.
And sometimes we don't really want to debate it.
We want to pretend like we're debating it.
So what we do is we create, there's the one side
that we really want to follow,
but we know we should probably think it through.
So then we create another side that's weak
that we know we're gonna defeat.
And then we do this propaganda where we,
so we can just steamroll it.
Yeah, and we're like, oh yeah, I thought about it.
No, you really didn't.
You really didn't do it, think about it.
You just pretended to make yourself feel better.
People like Pat themselves on the back for like,
oh yeah, you know, I was totally gonna give money
to that charity, you know, just the thought of that
like makes me feel good.
Yeah, no.
And I'm thinking like, wow, that's human consciousness.
We're always creating these characters.
And think about how many times you like talk to yourself
or like you said, Justin, the devil and the angel.
I mean, the terminology of like listening to that voice
and then there's this other voice in my head that says this
and then this other voice says that, what voice?
You're not possessed by demons.
You need to read what I'm reading right now,
which is how emotions are made.
I know it'll be such a perfect followup
in where your head space is right now
because it's super fascinating.
And I touched on it a little bit with Dr. Molley,
but what you're getting into right now
is a lot of the book is because there's a lot
of other factors that come into this
because where that person's current head space is at,
like where they're at, as far as being positive
or if they've got some stuff going on in their life
that's got them down or they just recently got fired,
they just recently got a promotion.
Like all these things makes a difference their life that's got them down or they just recently got fired, they just recently got a promotion.
Like all these things makes a difference on how they respond and react to these opportunities
or things that arise.
And it's not always the same pathway.
It doesn't work that way.
It's not like A to B always.
It's always going to be there's always so many individual variances because we're constantly
going through all these different emotions and days and spikes and ups and downs.
So even the same exact question or same exact possibility or the same exact opportunity
is never the same because of all the other factors.
Dude, think about how, like imagine, and we don't appreciate just how complex the human psyche is
sometimes. I really think, though, I really think that sometimes we see it's a problem or a situation and we're like, the
answer is simple, just do this or just do that.
Well, yeah, obviously, if people just, if they're obese and they just said, oh, I'm just
going to eat healthier and move more, well, yeah, I guess that's the answer, but way more
complex than that.
If life was just a math equation, we'd be doing, like, everything would be easy.
And that's, you know, exactly like, if this than that, but it's, there's so many variables.
And that's just it, like, it's all about this, this duality in our minds, or maybe even
more than two things, where we're constantly in this battle between the dictator us, who's
telling us what we should do and this rebellious us
that's saying don't fucking tell me what to do and it's this back and forth back and forth
but then when you realize that you have created these fictional imaginary characters in your mind
that you don't have to have to have to have to have it and you're not chained to one of them.
No, in fact that's neither one of those as you, by the way.
The guy that's telling you to do it and the guy that's rebelling it isn't even you.
The you is the one that's observing all of it.
Boy, when you reach that point, it's like, you start to make friends with things that
you used to hate to do or you felt forced to do.
You start to make friends with it and you realize, like, oh, like, yeah. I want to, you know, I want to do my yard work
because I like the way it looks and that's it.
Like, I'm not forced to do this.
I just like the way it looks.
And when you make friends with it, it makes everything
fucking easy, man.
It really does.
Otherwise, it's a, of course, man,
nobody wants to be forced to do anything.
You tell me to do anything and my instinct
is to tell you to go fuck yourself.
Right. I don't care who's telling me especially because that just
fitness is everything too. That's it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's across all boards. Well, that's
why it's interesting because we've all learned that through fitness and like enjoying the process
and actually like, like I get excited to go work out and you know work on my body, but
at the same time like working on my house or you know doing the mundane shit that like
you know will propel you forward.
Why don't I carry that same momentum? Why don't I carry that same energy into those
projects? Well, this reminds me of why we started
this project was that that's what's so wrong is that our industry is focusing on all the
wrong things. And they have been for a really long time, you know, and it's, and we've been
a part of it, we were a part of the problem for a really long time because that's how
you, if you tell you made money, tell you how you had to do.
From the hammer of dictator ideas like right on you. you had to tell you made money, it's how you had to, if you had to throw in the hammer of dictator ideas
like right on you.
Yeah, dude, and it's really not the real root cause
of most of people's struggle of getting
in really good shape.
That's not worth, it's rooted in their head.
It's rooted in the psychological side more than anything else.
And it took me a really long time in training a lot of people
before I really connected those dots personally. You know, that took me a lot. Oh, dude, it took me, really long time in training a lot of people before I really connected those dots personally.
That took me a lot.
Oh dude, it took me, it was like towards the back half
of my career, I would train clients and start realizing that,
wow, if I do this slow enough and I do this
with the right approach, they all of a sudden,
that's, it switches.
The dictator starts to shrink and then it becomes disappears.
And then they switch to this, oh, I want to do this.
And these were all, I mean, I wasn't training athletes.
I wasn't training anybody that was hard.
I had very few hardcore clients.
90% or more of my clients were people that did not have
any fitness, you know, background or discipline, if you will.
These were all regular people, and I was able to, when I changed my approach, I haven't
looked at, we've been doing mine pump now for three years, I haven't trained a single
one of these clients for at least two years, right?
That's a long time, two years without training with their trainer.
Every single one of these people is still exercising, is still working out.
And not all of them are training with a trainer.
Some of them went to another trainer because they enjoyed doing that.
Some of them said, hey, I'm going to do this on my own.
And I keep in contact with them.
And every once in a while, they'll send me their workout and stuff.
I mean, real lifestyle changes.
And it takes a while sometimes.
I had clients who want to lose 30 pounds, they
don't lose 30 pounds for three years, you know, and all of a sudden they lost it.
Yeah, like for the first three years, it just clicked. Yeah, just, it would have had so many
clients like that. Right. Yeah. So I was just mind blowing to maybe because I'm sitting there
and I'm like, wait a minute, who the fuck is telling me? Well, that's why being for them,
being there for them, like matters so much more, then trying to push them and propel them
in a certain direction, they have to literally internalize it.
And then it becomes obvious once they go through that process.
It's pretty crazy.
That's why I used to put so much responsibility on my clients.
And it took me a long time to figure that piece out too.
I used to be the trainer who fed right into whatever client
wanted, which was give me a meal plan, give me a workout,. I used to be the trainer who fed right into what every client wanted, which was give me
a meal plan, give me a workout, tell me what to do.
I could do that.
Here you go, here you go, here you go, and that was kind of like the formula.
Later on in my career, it was the complete opposite.
I did nothing.
And yet I was a way better trainer.
What I mean by I did nothing, wasn't that I literally didn't do nothing, but I put it
on them to present everything to me.
Because if you really want to learn about yourself,
if you really want to figure it out,
right, it takes work.
I know that, for sure.
And don't worry, I'm gonna help you out with all the math
and the hard decisions of where we go from here or there.
Like, I'm gonna direct this ship,
but you're gonna be fucking moving us.
You're not me moving you.
This is not the other way around.
So they would have to send me all their measurements,
all their weights, all their stuff,
and we're tracking, and I'm talking them through that process
because I know what's gonna happen
within a more like the Oracle.
Yeah, right, and three or four days later,
they're gonna call me up and go,
or say to me, Adam, oh my God, I just, this happened to me.
I go, well, let's look at your food log,
and let's see where the foods you've been eating
for the last two days, and let's talk about it.
And then, I'll pull them, the slight bulb goes off,
and I'm like, oh really, I didn't get fat.
That's crazy. And you have to allow people to learn.
Yeah. If you don't, you know, so much information, you feel like, I don't know, for some reason
we feel so compelled to keep like throwing stuff at them.
Right. And you haven't even given them enough time to learn.
Right. It's, you can't, you don't really teach people anything,
you're just helping them learn,
you're helping them teach themselves.
Yeah, because that's the only way you really learn
is when you get it yourself, right?
Now sometimes someone can present information to you,
that sparks that, and that's part of a trainer's job.
But a big part of the trainer's job is just like,
helping you reveal to yourself what needs
to be done.
Right.
And you know, that's why too, for a trainer, it's a huge success, even if you reveal
one big rock for them.
That's it.
And they never even see their goal.
Like, maybe their goal was to, like you said, lose 30 pounds, but there are so many other things
big rocks that were missing their life, for example, sleep.
Like how many times have you got a client before? And they're part of the reason why they've struggled themselves to lose
is they've already tried every diet,
they've tried every workout program.
They're coming to you now because they're lost completely,
which we always know that's a bigger project
because this person has to undo a lot of the bad stuff
that they've done to themselves for so long.
And that sometimes takes a long time.
And if you can just get them to create one better habit
that you know will really impact their life long term.
Like for example, sleep, I always go there.
Now it was an area that I didn't put a lot of emphasis
on when we first started, you know.
That's why I love fitness so much.
Like if you can kind of get your mind wrapped around fitness,
you can take all the stuff you learned with fitness
and apply it towards pretty much all your life.
And it's just a basic, it's a very easy thing to understand. It's still not easy, but it's just
easier to understand them, all the complexities of life. So if you can, you just nail down fitness
a little bit and figure that out. Well, and to be fair, like, I know that why we were all so
impressed with Paul Check is because he's been able to distill like almost everything down to like a few
like major things, right?
Especially fitness wise, like that
to even focus on like when he talks to somebody
it's just like, you know, those three, four major things
that will move you forward.
And that's it.
So awesome.
Master those.
So absolutely awesome.
So some current events stuff,
I know we've been bringing some current events stuff.
And so yesterday, you guys have seen, I'm sure, if you've been on anywhere on social media,
just the gun control debate is just gone crazy, right? People on both sides are just getting
really lots of vitriol, lots of anger, lots of, you know, you don't care about the kids,
no, you don't care about the kids, and you know, this, that, and the other. And you got one side saying, we need to arm, you know,
teachers, or we need to have police, you know,
at our schools, and you got to do this side.
It's like ban all guns or ban these guns or whatever.
So I'm looking at this and I love this discussion
because not because we have to have it
because it's a difficult discussion to have.
But because there are some interesting points
that can be made on both sides.
So I'm kind of, you know, I'm mulling it over.
I'm actually discussing with Jessica,
we're having a great discussion over it.
And then I get, come upon this article
with these, they're not biohackers.
I think they're biohackers.
They're kind of like biohackers, right?
And biohackers are this new group of people,
and it's just like this broad umbrella of people who like to experiment with themselves and create new things that
they can do with their bodies and what they can do with technology. And I'm reading this
article on how 3D printers, so for the people that don't know, a 3D printer can print objects. So rather than printing on a piece of paper,
it can print like a cup out of plastic mold
or the advanced 3D printers now can print parts
for things that you put together.
Or even they even have these massive 3D printers
that can print a house now out of like single compounds
or whatever, right?
So I'm reading this article and there's these hackers
that are using 3D printers and they're printing guns
and they're printing effective guns.
That's already happening.
Oh yes.
Okay, so there was one called the liberator
that you could print with plastic.
Wow. Yes.
So it's undetectable.
With plastic and I think one metal part
or maybe no metal parts.
So it's all plastic.
It was a single shot pistol.
And you could print it with a 3D printer that you could buy.
It's crazy.
You could buy these commercial 3D printers.
You could buy it and you could print it
the single shot handgun.
And that happened a few years ago.
Well now 3D printers have advanced so much over the last few years that now these guys are printing
multi-shot guns and one guy printed a semi-automatic rifle
with like a capacity for like crazy, dude.
Like a 12, like 12.
You just made me think you said you graced over something
that just made me go, whoa, if we could get to a point
where we can print houses and that's like a project
that can be done in two days with a little bit of material,
the house, it will fucking flip the house.
It'll be crazy.
I've already seen some of these,
I don't know if they have robots attached
or whatever to these 3D printers,
but I've saw them like live, build a bridge.
Yep, crazy.
Yep.
So, 3D people don't realize this,
but in the future, 3D printing has the ability to disrupt
just, it's going to be the most, one of the most disruptive technologies that everything.
It'll be one of the most disruptive technologies that mankind has ever seen.
But in terms of guns, these guys are printing guns and the way that they're doing it is they're just sharing files.
Okay, now think about that.
And the materials to make these guns,
you could buy it any fucking hardware store, right?
So think about it this way now.
How powerful is the music and entertainment industry?
One of the most powerful in the world, right?
Billions of dollars, extremely powerful.
Have they been able to stop illegal file sharing
for music and movies?
Not at all.
Not at all.
In fact, I could go online right now.
So what you're saying is like,
nobody's gonna be able to make money.
What I'm trying to say is,
no, stop it.
It's what it is.
No, it doesn't matter.
Even if you ban all guns.
Good luck, good luck.
So you know what, and if anything,
it'll only cause a more of an uproar of underground law.
You can make it as illegal as you want.
Right, yeah.
Like right now it's illegal to download music or whatever.
But if I want to, right? And I look, by the, here's a thing, I am not tech savvy.
I've never, I've never had free music. I've never shared free music.
I never used Napster and never did any of this stuff. If I buy music, I go through.
Well, I pirated the shit out of my head. I had Napster too.
We did in college. You had like a list.
Well, that was right in the heart of when you were a kid in the music.
I couldn't believe that you could do it. You know, like a list. Well, that was right in the heart of when you were a kid in the music. I didn't believe that.
You could do it.
You know, like we all took turns like downless,
like you know, but whatever.
Everybody did, right?
I bet I could go right now on my phone
and I can within 10 minutes find a way to download
a free music or even a free movie.
And those are extremely regulated
and controlled industries.
Like guns are gonna be printed
and you ain't gonna be able to stop the sharing of files.
Right.
Like you are, the toothpaste is out of the tube, you can't put it back in the tube, what the
fuck are you gonna do now?
Right.
You can't do anything.
When people can print guns, it's gonna be like, good luck trying to do gun control, anything.
So when I hear the arguments for gun control and there's the debate back and forth, then I read this and I'm like, that's a whole nother monster.
That's a whole nother monster. It's futile. Like the only way we're going to be able to
deal with that kind of a situation is that if it ever becomes super dangerous, which I disagree,
because we already have, like here's a fact, right? You don't forget about mass shootings
in this and that because I think there's some crazy psychological dysfunction
that goes on with that.
But let's just look at everyday violence that's done
in America, gun violence, murder, right?
Go to Chicago.
Chicago's got a murder rate that's equivalent
to some third world countries.
Yeah, it's crazy.
When you've got stuff like that going on,
you're, and there's already, over,
there's easily over 300
million guns already in circulation in America. So more guns in America, legal guns, we didn't
even know they're legal ones, but there's already more guns in circulation than people already.
We've been well-armed for since the founding of this country, right? There's guns everywhere.
If it ever becomes super, super dangerous, which I don't think it will, then the only
option will be to carry a gun yourself, right, to defend yourself. If that ever becomes super, super dangerous, which I don't think it will, then the only option will be to carry a gun yourself, to defend yourself, if that ever happens.
But here's why I don't think it'll happen.
We've had guns forever in this country.
We've got more guns today than we did 30 years ago,
and total gun violence, total gun murders,
and this is a real statistic,
is that it's lowest point in 30 years.
So, although guns in society total gun murders and this is a real statistic has is that it's lowest point in 30 years. So
although total although guns in society may be a contributing factor to to violence which by the way that argument is actually disputable back and forth. I've looked at the evidence and I would
totally side with the evidence if it was clear but it's not. But it's but so if it was a big factor
it's obviously not the factor because otherwise
we would be more violent total today than we were 30 years ago with more guns, right?
So, so I think fuck 3D printers printing guns. Yeah. Like what's gonna change everything?
They're gonna be able to do drugs too. They are gonna be able to print molecule by molecule.
Yeah, drug, if you can print a fucking gun, you're gonna be able to print molecule by molecule. Yeah, yeah, drug you'll be if you can print a fucking gun You're gonna be able to print a fucking drug a pharmaceutical drug. No problem. Yep. So that's gonna it's gonna be blow everything out
That's why I think the future is the future is anarchal capitalism
Whether we like it or not. Yeah, it's gonna be like total so decentralized
Like think about brands and this is why I believe so much
And the blockchains are gonna look all this is why I believe so much in blockchain and crypto because
Either that or something like it. Well, yeah, the break the blockchain. That's why I said blockchain and not cryptocurrency, right?
What what cryptocurrency? I can't tell you that and that's why I don't think it's something smart to heavily invest in but pay attention
Because blockchain is here to stay and it's gonna be for reasons like this is because there will be people like ourselves
That will I'll have no problem having a quarter of my income and cryptocurrencies that gives me the freedom to buy purchase
Whatever I want whenever I want and protected to where nobody can trace it back to me
And I can have what I you know I'm saying like that's that's fucking here dude. Yeah, that's that's here
And it's it's it's gonna happen.
Everything's gonna be so decentralized.
Everything, like brands, who the fuck cares about brands
when I can print a pair of shoes that's identical at home,
and I just get the raw materials that are cheap as shit.
You know what I mean?
Who cares about like you said medicine?
It's gonna be all about design.
I mean, think about the creativity,
like how that's gonna to be more important.
Mm-hmm. Going forward because people are going to have to construct new things, new ideas, new ways of building things.
So I think there's going to be a lot of demand for people that have that kind of a skill set.
Of course. Okay. So let's, I said that the house thing would flip the housing market on its head.
It would just change the profession. Like now there's a huge market for people who could create and design these like sick
house.
Yeah, yeah.
So the item it would be decentralized.
Right.
Because all these files would be shared online.
It would be no different than YouTube decentralizing entertainment.
You'd all of a sudden have like, you know, at home designers designed something.
They'd test it and be like, oh, this works.
You can download this if you want
and print your own house on your own land.
Yep.
And people will, people will do it.
How about this?
So I had somebody, I had this conversation
with someone who's like, oh, no, it's gonna be,
you know, then that means the printer owners
are gonna be the fucking rulers of the world.
And I'm like, no, fucker.
Because you'll be able to 3D printer.
Like, you'll be able to, that's the thing.
Like, you'll be able to print a printer. That's the thing, you'll be able to start a printer.
You'll be able to print, that's it.
Dude, think about it.
You know what I'm saying?
It's gonna be so disruptive.
I don't even think we can come close to a mad
and a fucking...
That is inception, bro.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
You'll be able to change the...
Probe or the egg?
Whatever, I got a 3D printer. You'll be able to change the pro-d. Whatever, I got a 3D printer.
You'll be able to change the pro-d.
And it'll improve upon the previous program.
And then you'll print it.
Now how crazy will that be?
Like, so you say drugs.
What if they get, you know, obviously I'm sure
they're working on bio.
Oh, they've printed tissue.
Yeah, like you can make like new lens for your cell.
They've actually printed, they can print tissue,
they'll be a point where they'll be able to print
complex organs, like a heart,
or not the brain, maybe at some point,
but I don't think now, but they'll be able to print
like your kidneys or a heart or a valve or a tendon,
or so they'll be able to harvest your stem cells.
Oh, you tore your ACL, we'll make you a new ACL
from your own stem cells, and they'll print it
with this machine, and then they'll put it in your body.
It's your own fucking cells.
Boom, now you're brand new.
It's a bunch of crazy shit, but yeah,
it took me down that path because it's all this.
It's not like I get so excited about this.
It's like totally sci-fi, but like real life now.
It's like, what the fuck?
It's very much so. And you know, it's so funny our braids work because it's like it's a gun control battle
And it's like thinking about it. So you do that so many things
But that's a common that's immediate gun controls around the corner right or printing guns is around the corner
We are literally within it's like putting a little patch on you know one little crack in the dam
Yeah, you know, it's like ooh, I'm gonna put some spackle on here, right?
Yeah, and then debating arguing if it's like, I'm gonna put some sparkle on here. Right.
And then debating arguing if it's great,
worth it or not,
or it's gonna explode in your face.
Or what kind of sparkle you should use.
That's what you're seeing right now.
That's it, dude.
And other countries are gonna be doing it.
So all these countries that are like,
we don't have guns in our societies.
Okay, we'll see what happens.
We'll see what happens in 10 years.
Right.
Because it's within 10 years.
It's not, that's not close to this, bro.
And within 10 years, we're gonna have three to 10 years. It's not, that's like close it is, bro. And within 10 years, we're gonna have three
to pretend years easily, easily. You know, fast that
shit's advancing right now. Have they have they, like, moved up
the date for that like, AI, where they think that it's going
to become like self-aware. Well, that's the the futurist
was a great crucible things that'll happen like, well, let me
throw this in the mix. So you know that China has actually made a massive initiative to be the first and so they're treating it like we did
But they're rock news. Oh, yes. Yes, they just put that out in the media and said that like they have everybody working on it right now
It's a cold war dude. I like him. That's a chill down my spine. Wow really? Yes. No shit, I didn't see that.
Oh yeah, it's real.
I'm telling you right now, we are either going to save ourselves,
or we're going to completely destroy ourselves.
That's the argument too, is to why we haven't encountered
like intelligent life.
One of the arguments is, well, maybe the process
is intelligent life ends up destroying itself
before it's able to
reach a technology where it can travel interstellar this way.
Like maybe this is just a natural life.
We get so smart and we just push, push, push,
and then we end up like destroying ourselves somehow
and then it just recycles who knows.
Yeah, I don't know, dude.
It's pretty fucking, it's pretty loud, right?
It's too weird, man.
Did you say you had a headline or something, Justin?
Oh, I just had a funny article that I thought like you specifically would appreciate, right. Too weird. Weird shit. Did you say you had a headline or something, Justin? Oh, I just had a funny article that I thought, like,
you specifically would appreciate, so.
Oh, great.
Was it starting?
Given your background.
So here's the news title for it.
Pennsylvania man with red sauce on his face
arrested for meatballs theft.
What?
What?
Affair.
Affair, okay.
So Pennsylvania man was caught red face after a neighbor reported stolen part of meatballs. What? What? What? What? What? Affair.
Okay, so Pennsylvania man was caught red faced
after a neighbor reported a stolen pot of meatballs.
And he was arrested for trespassing and theft charges.
Basically, he just like walked into this guys house,
stole his meatballs, ate it really quick,
got it all his face in his shirt,
so they caught him red handed.
Dude, you've had to try to deny that to the cops
Stripping off the face who calls the cops over stolen balls come on man You know what so think about it this guy you went to if someone came into your house and ate your food
I'd fucking be oh, I would be pissed I'd be super mad
It's dude and it takes like I explain the process of making meatballs
Right, that's a whole process. It's probably a neighbor You would it we we don't know the backstory the back the backstory is it's the neighbor
They've been living there for four years. He's been asking the mother fucker that has the meatball to moe is lawn
Yes, it mode is lawn in four weeks. He's like you can't you don't know your lawn. I'm gonna eat your meatball like he's letting his dog
Just shit on it. Yeah, yeah shit. I'm gonna eat you a lesson. I'm gonna eat your fucking meatballs
This reminds me this reminds me. I had a client who always be sick. And then I could cut arrested, you know, fuck.
I had a client once who had his house burglarized
and he was telling me the story.
And he goes, here's the worst part.
He goes, I had a sandwich in the refrigerator.
And the fucking burglar's not only robbed my house,
but they ate half my sandwich and drank some of my beer
and left them on the couch. And then I got to the store. in the refrigerator and the fucking burglars, not only robbed my house, but they ate half my sandwich
and drank some of my beer and left them on the counter.
Oh man, like the nerve.
You know what she ate?
She ate it.
She ate it off.
Yeah, how angry would you be?
You know what team are more bullshit?
Is that the cops don't do any investigation on that?
Like this isn't fucking CSI.
What the hell?
They get like a saliva and a hair sample
for some stolen TVs, dude.
I remember the first time I figured that out was when my first first car got stolen like I've had two cars stolen from me
Right in this in the within a 10-year span. Yeah, like the cops never mind me that
Oh, he's goes like you guys have need leads or anything he's like leads
Yeah, no it's like that. They don't fucking do nothing about that dude like oh
Someone breaks in your house dealss your stills all your shit
Bro cops roll up. They're like yeah, we didn't catch him. No, we're not we're not gonna try either
He let the sandwich here. He ate half of them sure there's a hair somewhere in this
No, dude
Get his DNA
What are shitty feeling by the way did you feel that way those I thought that's how it worked as a kid
Yeah, but I tell my first experience with something like do some detective work What are shitty feeling by the way? Did you feel that way, though? I thought that's how it worked as a kid.
Yeah, but I tell my first experience
with something like do some detective work.
I can understand, I don't know, maybe something small,
like a bike being stolen, maybe,
but it's like a car, like a 20 something, $30,000
vehicle gets stolen, like you don't know investigation happens?
Yeah, nothing.
What a fun time for it.
No, that's a shitty feeling, isn't it?
I went up my house, got broken into.
I became so vigilant for like a year.
Like afterwards I was like this asshole was like looking
at everybody.
Bat next to your bed and shit.
Oh yeah, I know I bought a lady walking by with a dog
and he was like, it was you.
Yeah, dude, I bought a sword.
This sounds so good.
This is how crazy I was.
I bought it, first I bought, first I got my first
away from your crazy sword. Yeah, that's your first thought. No bought it, first I bought, first I got my first way of doing your crazy, yeah, that's your first thought.
No, no, first I bought a gun.
Okay, so I had my first, this is my first bought my gun.
So I had a gun and then I'm like, you know what,
I locked it up, I put it in a safe,
because I have kids, right?
I wanna be very, you know, safe about that.
I'm like, what if I don't have time to grab my gun
in the safe that's, you know, a machete.
That's like seven feet for me, right?
So I bought this, I don't know,
what the fuck I have on it.
Samurai sword.
Yeah, it's like a big old pro, like, I bought this sword
and I have it next to my bed.
And then I thought to myself, dude, then I thought to myself,
would I have the balls to like,
hack someone's money?
Like I'm gruesome with that thing.
Like imagine if you had a sword, there's a guy in your house
and you know, I have to kill him with the sword right now.
He's just like, oh big mistake.
Yeah, you're a mistake.
Slice.
I don't know if I could stab somebody.
It's not like the movies where you're like,
I could shoot somebody who's an invader, no problem.
Like, you could do it in one time, right?
And you're coming at me, like, I could feel like
I could react quick enough, I shoot you, but to stab yeah to stop find ninjas. I don't know, you know
I say I say that too and I do remember being scared as a kid getting into fights to and then once you are in it
It's like you have a switch, but here's the thing off a survival thing
I was thinking I literally went through this on my head
That's why I leave my clubs near the door. Yeah. Oh, you're working
I love Indian club. Well think about this. I'm thinking of my head like a legend, somebody.
I'm like, I need to be mentally prepared
if this ever happens, because I don't want to be caught like,
oh my god, and then what do I do?
So I need to like, I need to make up my mind in my head
that I can do this.
I feel like every man goes through this.
Yeah, so I'm running through the scenarios on my head.
And if I had a sword, I'm like, the odds that the first swipe
is just gonna kill him, or not that high.
He's probably gonna block it with his arm,
which means I'm probably gonna,
like I'm gonna have to cut in him a bunch of time.
Like I'm gonna have to hack out of him.
Oh yeah, he's gonna read, his arms are gonna block
so he's gonna like at least grab part of it
and then you have to pull back.
Yes, that's gonna be a one swipe and he's gonna be ugly.
It's gonna be bloody scary.
I have to be dedicated to the slicing of his skin
unless you come in overhead and you stab forward see
I don't know if it's that easy have you ever done it? I've never done it. No, of course not
There's no way I feel like pulled off. I feel like it's way more work than you think
Yeah, you have to be like the whole time have to be committed to like
Neutralizing the threat, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, you know, and I'm sure he's not gonna sit there and take it
Well, this is like it's more just scare the fuck out of this Is why practicing and doing like I mean martial arts or doing these practices with stuff like that
So it becomes routine right you just go into sport mode
You just go into like I get in my stance and I know this is what I'm supposed to do
Yeah, I'm dude. Yeah so much of it's mental. I just know it
Fuck that. Yeah, but you know what if you're a man. If it's into your house and your pop up air
and you've got your kids, bro, I'm sure like,
Oh, if I saw that my kids were there,
I wouldn't even think.
Right, right.
But I would feel, I still would feel afterwards
I'd be like, wow, that was traumatizing.
I just fucking murdered someone if I had a house.
Oh my God.
Yeah, there was a story of like some guy
that had like broken in, like, this wasn't even in
close to my neighborhood or anything,
but it was like close enough where I paid attention,
it was Santa Cruz County,
some guy broke in, grabbed some toddler
and was just mentally disturbed and grabbed it
and then came put back the toddler
and then they caught him later.
But just that story alone,
because I have my kids sleep downstairs,
I'm just thinking about it.
So a couple of times I heard something rustle outside,
like this is after this happened.
Jumped out of bed, grabbed my club, went out like,
rawr, you know, like ready to throw down,
but you'd have to beat someone to death with a club.
That's required somewhere.
I wonder what, I wonder right to the face.
What age is for you guys as parents, if ever,
that you relax about that or calm down. What age do for you guys as parents, if ever, that you you relax about that or
calm down like what age do your boys or your girls need to get before you guys are okay
with it. They're just downstairs, right? But I don't know. I can get it right now. I'm
where you live out kind of the forest. And it's like, you know, probably when your boys
are big enough to like protect you. Yeah. When you're old and they're and they're bigger
stronger than me. Yeah. And you're like, there's a noise you call your son, hey, go check this out.
I heard a noise, hey, my hip hurt.
You know, if he handles, yeah, for my daughter, probably never, right?
It'll always be like overprotective.
Yeah.
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You guys have talked about post-workout eating before, but are there any benefits for fasting
or waiting to eat for a couple hours after working out?
Absolutely.
So, for a long time now, we've been sold the idea that one of the most important things
you could possibly do for building muscle or burning body fat is protein window.
Yeah, it's to eat right after you work out.
Who was it that we were interviewing or were you talking to that first that this blew my
mind when we brought this they brought this up?
Was it Ruscio?
Ruscio talked about it in the context of,
when was it, we all, we were all together
when we, the first time that so.
That's what it was with good health.
It was, right?
For good health.
But before that, we all,
we're, all of us had talked about on the show
that the science actually doesn't show
that it's that big of a deal at all.
Yeah, we were, we already were talking shit about
real timing a long time ago,
but that was like the big one.
I've heard that.
Yeah, absolutely so.
So the reason why they push it so hard,
you have to understand this.
The reason why it's pushed so hard
is such an important thing is because they know
that right after your workout, so here's the case.
This is the case they make.
After your workout, you're in this anabolic window
that lasts about 30 minutes to an hour.
If you eat something right afterwards, your body is going to utilize it for repair and
rebuilding and you're going to build more muscle as a result.
So that's step one.
Step two, the faster you can get amino acids into your bloodstream, the better because
now it feeds into the first part, which is you need to eat right afterwards, right?
So that all feeds into, oh, what's the fastest form of protein I can consume? And what is the most convenient form of protein
I can consume? Protein powder. And this is the reason why they push this so hard is because
they knew that if they push this narrative and they attach it to something that you're
going to do, like working out, that you are going to take more protein powder. And they
were right. And they were right. And they were right.
This narrative right here sells more protein powder
than anything I can think of by far.
Is that I need something right after my workout
so I need convenience.
I don't wanna, I just finished working out,
so it's gotta be easy.
And I want it to be fast, digesting
because I need to get the amino acids in my bloodstream.
So they've sold a shit ton of protein powder
as a result of this.
Now here's the real sign.
The science shows that if you plan on working out again
later in the day, you're definitely gonna want to have a meal
in between to replenish glycogen and improve performance.
If you don't plan on working out until tomorrow, whatever,
as long as you eat sometime between those two meals,
you're gonna be okay.
So-
And I would argue there's more benefits to pushing out and not eating
if you're somebody who's trying to lean out.
Especially for fat loss.
Right, if you're a fat loss or trying,
or even generally not,
even if you're your main goal just isn't to build.
Like if you're on a hard game, that's I got a gain,
I'm a skinny kid, all I care about is gaining.
Okay, I might not push the fast or tell you to do that,
but anybody who could reduce body fat,
I would say there's as much benefits for you stretching out
the fasted state
after the workout, then you try to shut all food
down your mouth within 30 minutes of the workout.
Absolutely, and then in the context of gut issues,
if you have an inflamed gut, which a lot of us have
and consider this, like exercise itself is creates inflammation.
It's a stress on the body, it's why your body adapts,
it's trying to become more resilient.
So that next time, the same stress or the same insult
doesn't cause the same problems.
So exercise itself, if you were to work out real hard
and then we were to test your blood
and test all your metrics, we would find elevated inflammatory markers, elevated cytokines, elevated C-reactive protein,
because it's causing damage on the body and your body adapts, gets stronger, and that's
what makes you healthy.
But in that state of inflammation, may not be the best time to eat right away, especially
if you've already got gut issues, because the inflammation that you're experiencing post-workout
is local to the muscles you train,
but it's also systemic.
Your whole body experiences some inflammation.
And when your gut is inflamed,
and if it's already in kind of bad shape,
eating food in that state is a,
you're asking for trouble because now you have an inflamed gut,
you're already kind of have gut issues.
Now you're inflamed from your workout.
Pitching the problems.
Yeah, now I'm eating all this food.
And by the way,
And then when you have a food that is a religious food
that you eat every single time after you work out,
you're more likely to have it.
It's created in tolerance, right?
And not only that, but exercise is sympathetic.
It's not parasympathetic.
So now let's take it a step further.
Before you work out, you have some kind of a stimuli.
Caffeine, coffee, or a pre-workout.
So now I'm really chemically putting my body
in this fight or flight sympathetic state,
which is beneficial for your workout,
or I'm gonna give you a better workout.
Not beneficial for digestion, though.
Digestion is literally parasympathetic, it's the opposite.
It's the rest and digest.
So now I'm sympathetic from all the stimulants,
and I just worked out which is sympathetic
because it's typing my body up and I'm inflamed
and I throw food down my gulet,
not necessarily the best idea.
I love saying gulet.
Yeah, not exactly the best idea if you have,
you know, issues and stuff.
So what do you do?
Well, I think the best thing to do would be to wait
about an hour post workout,
but if you're one of these, I love the best thing to do would be to wait about an hour post workout But if you're one of these I love having my shake post workout or I love eating post workout
And I do workout later or I do like the quick
Recovery from it and I'm everything else is maximize my diets perfect my sleep is perfect my workouts perfect
So I'm trying to maximize every little
detail and you want to have something post workout. What I recommend is if you do eat, make sure you eat something that is not inflammatory
or eat something that's anti-inflammatory.
One of the most anti-inflammatory foods you can consume and that's also great for your
gut.
In fact, it's recommended quite commonly for people with irritable bowel syndrome or crone
disease or really, really bad digestive issues.
Tumoric.
Tumoric.
Tumoric is a great one.
So what I would recommend is either you can either buy raw
turmeric, which is gross, or you could have food that sees
in with the shit ton of turmeric, which takes time
or whatever, or what you could do.
And it's very inexpensive, as you could buy high quality turmeric powder
in a supplement form, which organify
sells a very high quality turmeric.
It's organic, it's tested to be pure,
you can take their pure turmeric capsules
with your protein shake post workout,
or with your food post workout,
to reduce the inflammation,
to reduce the chances of developing gut issues,
and probably enhance recovery
because you're reducing some of the inflammation.
You're gonna heal a little bit faster,
especially if you're working out pretty hard
and pushing the limit,
or you could do the other thing,
which is take the gold, the organic,
gold juice, which is a lot of turmeric, lemon balm,
and some other anti-inflammatory things,
which will also help induce parasympathetic recovery.
So that's kind of hacking it, right?
So what do you think about doing that?
Would you still recommend waiting though longer than 30 minutes?
I think waiting about an hour post-workout is probably better for more people than not,
but if you're one of these people you like eating post-workout, because I'm one of those
people sometimes, like, after a hard workout, I don like eating post workout, because I'm one of those people sometimes,
like after a hard workout, I don't know what it,
maybe I'm conditioned, like one of my favorite things to do
at a hard workout is have a big meal.
It just feels like, oh, you know.
Well, I conditioned myself because I needed to get enough meals
and to get enough calories.
And so when I was, especially when I was younger,
not so much now, it's different now,
especially if I'm not moving around like I am,
I'm not right now, but when I'm on the gain and I'm trying to build muscle
and I'm moving around, especially when I was training clients,
you know, getting 5,000 calories in on a regular basis
is just, that's not easy, especially when you're trying
to make whole food choices.
Yeah, try skipping meals and doing that.
Yeah, right, exactly.
You know, that's like three, you know,
1700 calorie meals a summer degree.
Yeah, and who's gonna eat 3, 1700 calories here?
I think that's whole foods, that's crazy.
So, you know, I'm trying to shoot for these 800 to 1000
calorie type meals and I'm still consuming 4, 5 meals
minimum that way.
For me, it used to be like, as soon as I work out,
I was naturally hungry and so I want to eat as soon
as I can eat because I want to turn around and eat
again in two hours because I'm still trying to get
meal number four and five in of the day.
And that's where I think,
that's the only people that I understand
why you would get where you're trying to push
this five and six meal thing.
Like, I don't get having six, you know,
200 and something calorie meals.
Like, that's just, ideal.
That's crazy to me.
Like that.
From what I've studied or what I've read in the literature
I would say the ideal
Post-workout meal would consist of
Obviously some protein some carbohydrates to replenish glycogen and have amino acid
So I like white rice because white rice is easy to digest or buckwheat some gluten-free
I would do a form of protein
You can do a protein powder, but if you do do a protein powder,
go for organic minimally processed type powder.
Organify again makes a really good protein powder.
I have the most sensitive gut,
and it's one of the few protein powders I can consume,
and not have any issues.
And here's the other thing, cholesterol post workout.
Excellent for recovery.
Your blood cholesterol drops considerably post workout because your body's using up that cholesterol for
rebuilding for repairing because that's what cholesterol is. It's like the small you'll use to
build and repair things and create hormones
theoretically consuming a high cholesterol meal post workout. Probably a good idea. So like some egg yolks,
some chicken, some rice, and then throwing some anti-inflammatory,
you know, foods, either like fish oil and maybe turmeric or the gold juice. If you're
really dialing everything in, it would probably be a good idea.
I bet you that sounds so incredibly shocking to people still.
I know. That's like this. What you just said there is a complete contradiction
from everything they've known.
Dude, if you, it's a scientific fact,
test your cholesterol, go work out real hard,
test the right afterward.
You will have a significant drop in your number.
In fact, if you want to cheat on your cholesterol test,
let's say you're gonna go get life insurance
and they're gonna test your blood
because they want to see what your cholesterol levels are
and they'll judge your, because that's what they do. They take your blood, they do all these tests and then based off that, they'll give test your blood because they wanna see what your cholesterol levels are and they'll judge your,
cause that's what they do.
They take your blood, they do all these tests
and then based off that, they'll give you your rate.
Right before your test, go do a hard ass workout,
have them test and they'll be like,
oh, triglycerides look good, cholesterol looks good.
Like people don't realize that,
that number's, it changes.
Yeah, totally varies depending on,
but yeah, post workout cholesterol, man,
that was a game changer for me.
When I push my body to the limit,
have some egg yolks or some chicken liver or something
like that, and it's like, you just feel it.
Yeah, Vince Garonda, old-school bodybuilders to promote that back in the day.
Next question is from Man Unkind 13.
We often hear to mix up our exercise routines because our bodies adapt very quickly as in
weeks.
With that same logic, why haven't our bodies adapted
to highly processed foods in the last hundred years?
That's never made sense to me.
The human body is very quick to adapt,
but please keep eating the foods that we ate thousands
of years ago if you want to be healthy and free of disease.
Well, you're talking about two different systems.
Totally.
Yeah, you're talking about two different things.
When you're talking about your body adapting
to this physical stress that you're putting on it, that's pretty consistently the same as far as what you're talking about two different things. When you're talking about your body adapting to this physical stress that you're putting on it,
that's pretty consistently the same as far as what you're doing
to chemicals and things that we've created.
I know lane licks, the fuck, and everything's a chemical.
Well, processed, fake, and food that didn't.
Things we've never been interested in.
Yeah, our bodies have never been introduced
for hundreds, thousands of years.
It's totally different.
Totally.
Totally different. We've only been consuming highly processed foods
in large quantities for the last 40 to 50 years max.
Right, maybe a little bit adapted in 2000 more years
and we're going through some shitty-ass growing pains right now.
First of all, it takes thousands of years
for these kind of, like for example,
the our ability to adapt to resistance training
is itself an evolution that took thousands of years.
Humans adapted thousands of years to be able
to have the ability to adapt to resistance training
to build or resistance in general to build muscles.
So in another itself, you're not understanding
how long it took the body humans to have
that evolutionary process that now we can adapt to resistance.
Now our ability to adapt to highly processed foods, fuck this shit's, it's a blink of the
eye.
There's only been like maybe two or three generations that have had to deal with this.
And so give it some time and we're slowing down the evolution process.
You know why?
Because we keep ourselves, everybody alive.
Alive long enough to make it right.
Right. Well that's the thing.
It's like the evolutionary process
if we're able to then adapt and go forward.
Usually the lineage or the genes
like don't keep passing on,
but we keep passing on the ones that aren't successful.
That's right, that's right.
So if it's like, you know,
if we weren't like keeping us alive
for long enough to reproduce,
then you might see it happen a little bit faster.
But I think there's-
So let the weak die.
I think there's evolution.
You're not saying.
There's adapting that happens within your own body
when you eat certain foods that are micro-adaptions,
but that's different than evolution.
Evolution takes a long time.
If we keep eating this way, and we don't figure out
what we're going to, how to fix this.
At some point, I'm sure you're gonna probably have people
that are more resilient to like diabetes,
more resilient to obesity related illness
and stuff like that because-
Yeah, the ones are dying off.
Yeah, you won't be breeding with them.
And if we keep going this direction, you're right,
we could just keep going this way
and we probably will still evolve.
The weak ones will die off.
The ones that are resilient enough will breed off. The ones that are resilient enough
will breed with the other ones that are resilient enough
and will breed it out of us potentially.
But I certainly, if I'm already battling some of the shit,
like I'm not gonna just wait till I die.
I'm fighting the shit.
I'm not gonna just wait till I die.
I'm not gonna just wait till I die.
I'm fighting the shit.
I'm not gonna just wait till I die.
I'm fighting the shit.
I'm fighting the shit.
I'm fighting the shit.
I'm fighting the shit.
I'm fighting the shit. I'm fighting the shit. I'm fighting the shit. I'm fighting the okay, I'm willing to make that back to the earlier topic
today, which is this, I'm bargaining with my future self.
For me, it's as much as that instant pleasure of throwing candy in my mouth is, if I can
sacrifice that to have a healthier, better version of myself in the future, like I'm making
that choice, right?
At least I'm going to try and make that choice 90% of the time. I used to have this book when I was a kid,
it was so cool, right?
And it was this artist rendition of what aliens would look like
on the planets in our solar system,
based on the environments of the planets.
Right, so like, you know, this planet is covered in ice,
so then there'd probably be animals
with like natural ice skates and all these different things.
And then in the book, it showed what this artist thought
humans would evolve to based on, like if we allowed
natural evolution to happen, how would humans look
a thousand years from now with technology and stuff?
And it was this really obese blob with this intelligence
that allows us to process lots of information.
So big head.
Big head really overweight on a hovercraft.
So our legs shriveled.
Yeah.
Because we don't need legs anymore.
We're floating around everyone.
We have these kind of weak looking arms,
but with these really long fingers,
because we're always pushing buttons,
like with technology, it was fucking grotesque.
And as a kid, it freaked me out.
I was like 10 years old, I look like.
I'm like, oh my god, we're gonna look like that.
Now it takes a long time to evolve.
I don't think, and you know what?
Process foods change so fast.
Anyway, they keep inventing new shit
to make it taste different and whatever.
At some point, they keep what they keep doing is
it's like the old supplement hustles.
They keep inventing shit till we find out,
oh shit, that's not good for you.
That's a long-term Oops. Let's try another compound
That's just a little bit different, but it's kind of the same thing
You know, I'm saying it's a different name and it hasn't been banned and put bunch. It's not hasn't got a bad bunch of bad
Pub from it yet. It's the hustle dude. How when's the last time have you guys ever tasted those like vegan meat products recently? Have you ever tasted them?
No, man. Okay, so I
I know a horrible idea. I haven't done it recently, but you ever tasted them? No, man. How would I? So I, I had an awful idea.
I haven't done it recently, but about a few years ago,
one of the people that worked in my gym
bought this like vegan burger patty, okay?
Right.
And I totally taste like a burger.
Well, here's a weird thing.
I can tell the difference, but boy,
did they fucking engineer that thing?
Yeah.
I'm eating this, I'm like, this is made out of plants. This is this tastes just like a bird.
Meat-ish. Yeah. Like that's some serious. I can't imagine like in 50 years what they're going to be able to create in the lab, you know what I mean?
Yeah. Like they're going to be able to make something like this is like peat. No trust me. No dairy, no gluten, whatever.
It tastes just like pizza. You know, pack full of nutrients and it's got all the macronutrients you need and you're gonna bite into it.
We're already hacking in there with like the cauliflower pizza and stuff like that.
I mean that shit that stuff is I'm I prefer that now.
Yeah.
I actually prefer that that it settle assists to me way better dude.
Well, look at them.
That's just the recipe though.
Dude, what yeah, what about bars like how crazy have they gotten?
Yeah.
Do you guys remember how bars used to taste when we were kids?
Oh, I know.
Chau, remember power bar when that first came out?
It was fucking, oh shit.
I see that before.
I remember basketball games.
I see myself because of the calories, you know.
Of course I myself eat those.
When I was a kid,
fucking cardboard.
If I bought a protein powder or a weight gainer,
I said my weight gainer's all the time,
the only flavor that you could ever get was chocolate
because it was the only one that was tolerable.
If you got any other flavor,
like if they got like a creative and they're like
pumpkin spice or some shit,
tasted like dog shit.
Strawberry shortcake tasted like dog shit.
Chocolate was the only one that tasted
kinda like chocolate.
Well nowadays, fuck me, you'll get a quest bar that tastes like
you know, and apple pie.
You're like, it tastes like, what'd they do? Yeah, we'll see about that. We'll see about how you can try to evolve the body I know you know, I'm able to keep up with that I doubt it
I think well how crazy was that talking to Lisa bill you just yesterday and you know being a part co-founder of quest and not even
Be able to eat quest boxes over grattish shoes. Yeah, dude like that fucking
So the irony there, right bro. I'm telling you, I think, I don't know, man.
I obviously, I think process is playing a big role
and all these, these gutted,
it's so common now, it's so crazy to me.
Yeah.
Well, it's so crazy to me because it's like nothing else
that I can at least compare to that
every other industry, it's like, as we get smarter,
it thinks tend to evolve.
Like, I mean, we are getting sicker.
It's all the numbers, all the stats, everything point that way,
but yet we're supposed to be getting smarter
and more knowledgeable about our body.
How the fuck is it?
You know what?
That to me is like, it's obvious there's something wrong
with the message, big time wrong with the message.
If that's where we're heading
and we know so much more supposed.
Well, we haven't, I mean, the chronic issues, I think,
that we're just starting to address, you know,
as opposed to like, yeah, we can fix people
like acutely, like pretty damn well.
We've traded the two.
We've traded acute illness for chronic illness.
I think the evolution in the future is not natural evolution.
I don't think humans are gonna naturally evolve.
I think the evolution is gonna be technological where
you're gonna start having nanobots and shit in your body.
And that's where my mind goes. That's what you're gonna do. Yeah, even then with, you're gonna start having nanobots and shit in your body. That's what my mind goes.
That's what you're up to.
Yeah, even then, you mentioned the artist rendering
and obesity, that wouldn't serve us.
So then there's gonna be some kind of nanobot.
I think that's gonna adjust your metabolism and all that shit.
Imagine it being so easy-
Upload right in front of you and tell you
what systems are doing bad on your body.
Like cardiovascular system is starting to decrease.
It's running at 60% optimization.
Like it goes each way.
Everything is automatically regulated for you.
And you're not even gonna think,
which we're gonna just turn into slaves to this technology.
Dude, think about these nanobots.
You could like, you know, you could eat something
and then throw in some nanobots that are gonna make the,
you know, the sugar, you know, affect your
pink, pink, or fuck it, they'll shuttle it
like when you need it specifically,
but hold on to it otherwise.
Oh, it's gonna be whatever.
That's what I think it's gonna be,
that's what the evolution's gonna come from.
And then maybe who knows, maybe we're fucking,
yeah, we're inherently late.
Maybe we'll reach, maybe we'll go out of business,
you know what I mean?
Maybe the future's like, no, no fitness.
Well, yeah, seriously, it'll be dinosaur.
Maybe you will be able to consume some of this bad,
this shit that's inside of it.
And the nano bots will be able to go in
and defend this, the bad stuff.
And then you can still consume whatever the fuck you want.
And you know what'll happen?
Well, that would be crazy.
You know what'll happen?
When people can be fit and healthy without discipline,
without sacrifice, they're going to find very
quickly that that is not the key to happiness.
They're going to find it real fast.
It'll be just like getting millions of millions of dollars overnight.
That's why I wrote it.
The future is the division right down the middle.
It's the plug, the numplug, the n community.
That's like a good sci-fi book.
I feel like you should write that.
If I could write.
This is already part of my sci-book. It's's already I might have read it wait wait till it comes out
You'll be waiting a long time
And by then it'll all happen already. Oh, man
Exactly what I was gonna write about you know the non-fiction you know my pup is struggling when we pre-sell Justin's book
Oh, I can't wait for that day, dude. I can't wait. What would you call us?
Justin's finally coming out with his sci-fi.
What's the title of?
A series.
Am I gonna throw that out there?
Someone's gonna steal it.
Oh, I forgot it.
I'm saying an Ausset.
All right, I'll say the spectrum.
The spectrum?
Yeah.
Oh, cool.
That's actually a cool name.
It is.
He's like, I have it really well thought out.
I'm running it down right now.
Don't use that.
I'll know.
Mind pump.
Audience.
Yeah. Next up is Steph Burns.
What would you say is a correlation ratio between all of your fitness success and business
success? Has this ratio changed over time?
Oh, wow.
Huge correlation.
Cool.
Huge correlation. The discipline, the structure, the, you know, I put hard work in, and then I see results afterwards.
The learning how to deal with myself
that comes that came from fitness,
100% translates to business success.
In fact, I don't know about you guys,
but every time I've trained in entrepreneur
who wasn't working out before,
after they start getting into working out,
every single one of them comments that they're better
at work because they started working out.
Productivity goes great.
This is an interesting question though,
because I have some people that I know a lot of people
actually that have a lot of fitness success,
but they don't have a lot of business sense.
So for us, I think that ratio is very high and it translates,
which is also what connects all of us and why we are good friends and like each other outside of just the business aspect is,
we respect everyone's business and fitness mind equally.
And I think that that isn't as common for everybody.
I don't think that's, I think there's a, it's talking to spectrum.
I think there's a wide spectrum of people that fall in all pieces here because I knew some some guys and girls that
I mean they could dial their bodies in because they understood they understood what they need to do so well
But then they just no idea about business and you see it's it's actually pretty good
It's because they're myopic like that's all they focus on is really improving their body
and they don't expand off of that.
I think I've seen that with some athletes
and some people that are trying to get up on stage.
They're just consumed with the thought that their body
has to be this certain way.
And then the actual business end of it
like it kind of takes a back.
Well, the answers are there in that, right?
That's the formula for success.
Even those people that aren't aware of it, they actually have the answers are there in that, right? That's the formula for success, right? If you, even those people that aren't aware of it,
they actually have the answers,
it's just that you gotta learn to take what they applied
to get there to business also.
So what did it sacrifice, consistency, hard work,
trial and error, you know what I'm saying?
Failing a lot.
I don't think it's a guarantee that you're gonna be like,
I don't think if you're like,
great of fitness is guaranteed to make you good
at other things, but I think the skills required
to be good at fitness in a real sense,
not like obsessive, like, you know,
bad eating disorder times.
What do we mean by skill of fitness?
Well, the mentality of it translates very well to this.
That's what I mean, the skill of like,
consistency, sacrifice, like hard work,
you know, scheduling, like prioritizing, because it all requires all those things,
right? To be fit, you got to be consistent, which requires prioritizing things that are important,
and sacrificing, okay, I'm not going to go drink tonight because tomorrow morning I
don't work out, like all these different things, and I think those skills are, there's two things,
I think A, you develop them through fitness.
And B, people who are good at fitness
might already have a propensity to be drawn towards those things.
So while you were talking at them,
I did a quick search on Google.
Here's five surprising statistics about entrepreneurs.
Trip off this.
Entrepreneurs, when they do these polls, about 58% of them say they exercise at least 30 minutes
a day three times a week. Now that's not every one of them, but that's way fucking higher
than the average person. By far, yeah. By far, right? Here's another one. They also 63%
of entrepreneurs eat five or more servings of produce every four days. In other words,
they eat more than a single, more than a serving of vegetables a day,
which is way more than the average person.
They're less likely to be obese.
So they're 4% less likely to be obese than managers
and executives and 5% less likely to be obese
than office workers.
So that's significant.
And they, 17% of, but they, oh, here's the other one though,
they smoke more, entrepreneurs tend to smoke more
than the average person.
So I think that's more of a result of like, stress.
Yeah, being like, I gotta be on the go type of thing.
But ultimately, I think the things
that make you good at fitness,
you can translate a little bit right
to what makes you good at business.
And I think if you're an entrepreneur and you're not working out.
Well, what do you think the ratio is for, he's asking us personally, right?
What would you say the correlation between, which is that?
How does it help us personally, I guess, right?
Has this changed, has this ratio changed over time?
You know, I, I entered fitness with more of a passion for sales and business.
So I, I was already into that, even though I was heading down
the Kinesh direction, when I fell into fitness,
the part of the whole thing that I really was fascinated by
was entrepreneurship, the company selling.
I just, the art of communication, these things,
I was more intrigued by that, that I actually
was of the science of fitness.
Now that's not to say that I wasn't loving that too, because I was learning a lot about
myself as I was going through learning as a trainer in my early years.
So I definitely think that my ratio has changed.
I like to think I'm more of a 50-50 split now, where I was probably more like a 90-10
when I first came in and maybe even the first few 10, 10 years or so.
I've been a serial entrepreneur, I've always been into selling,
I've always been into business.
I like reading and watching documentaries and stuff like that.
I love reading autobiographies on big,
launcher panoours, this is the stuff that I really dig.
I wasn't, like, Sal reads more studies,
and this is where we're definitely different.
Like, I think that, if you were to skin us back,
I think our ratios, and this is why we work so well,
is where one of us may be really, really more dominant
in an area like this, that's where our passion is,
or a little less on the other.
I think now, though, we're all maybe kind of a nice closer mix
of the head.
It took me a bit to discover that I was an entrepreneur.
So, you know, going through the, like, I know too,
like you said fitness, but for me, fitness to me
meant more like sports related.
So like being on teams and, you know, communicating with
other people and becoming a leader within my role in the
team.
And going through that sort of a journey, my ratio was very much more heavily focused on
maybe the fitness side.
And then I grew into the entrepreneurship, which now is definitely predominating.
It's probably even more so than the fitness fitness just because that was like my foundational baseline.
Like I built everything on top of that. And so now it's like I just get so passionate now about what, where business,
like what I'm doing business-wise, where it's taking me, because now I consider more than myself.
I consider my family, I consider, you know, how to provide, you know, all that kind of stuff is very much more of a high priority than myself. I consider my family, I consider how to provide,
all that kind of stuff is very much more of a high priority
than previous.
It's all, for me, it's all about what fulfills me.
So if I was, let's say I was stuck in a job that,
you know, let's say I was in a situation
where I needed to make money
and I had to take a job that wasn't like a passion of mine, right?
But I had to make money and whatever.
I'd probably be more fitness than business
because my fitness would be my outlet,
that's what would fulfill me.
But because of what we do is so fulfilling
and because it's all integrated,
it's hard to separate the two.
Like my personal fitness now, like I don't really chase
aesthetics, I don't chase personal PRs really that much.
It's fun when they happen, but it's not like I'm like,
I'm not sitting here like, okay, this is my number one goal.
I used to be like that when I was much younger,
but now it's all kind of the same.
It just fulfills me.
I love working out because it feels good.
I love the fun of it.
I like the way it makes me feel.
And then I love the way it helps me perform.
Same thing with diet. When my diet is is good, I'm not eating, my motivations for eating
right now are I care about myself, so I like taking care of myself and then my other motivations
are when I eat like really well, I am way more effective on the podcast and way more effective
on the YouTube channel, way more effective when we interview for men's cause we have all
my, like I notice a fucking night and day,
like you check it out, my diet is so good
before we go on trips and we're gonna interview people
because I know when I'm gonna sit down in front of,
you know, whatever, like we just interview with Lane Norton,
that was amazing, fire, and I was sharp
because I watched, I wanted to be like,
I wanted to maximize my performance
and I know my mind is sharp,
and I get the best ideas, and I think the best
when I do well with my diet and nutrition.
So it's a little bit different now,
but business fulfills me in the sense that I,
maybe not so driven by money,
I like the money for sure.
I just like feeling like I'm doing something impactful.
It sounds kind of
what's your what's your ratio though like if you were to look at like what you where you were when
you first started you know I mean I I think that I think I'm like 50 50 and the way I look at
this is the way I'm like measuring it is like the amount of knowledge and where I'm consuming it
so like what you're learning yeah like? Yeah, so I'll say this.
Like, so the last two books I read,
and I don't even plan this.
This is just kind of naturally where my mind is at right now.
The last book I'm reading currently right now
is neuroscience and psychology.
So there's kind of the fitness side of me
that like is consuming that type of knowledge.
But the book right before that was rework,
which is all business, right?
So, and if you look back at all the books
that I've read in the last year and a half,
it's kind of a natural kind of split of,
this is what I'm consuming a ton,
besides my experience, sure,
I've got years of experience in fitness,
sure I've got years of experience in business.
And both are equally relevant.
Right, but when I think of what,
where I'm at right now, personally,
and how that's evolved and changed,
when I first started, I was heavy business,
didn't know very much about fitness.
I become more knowledgeable at fitness
and I've slowly took that from a 90-10 ratio
to kind of this 50-50 ratio
and I'm kind of maintaining that as what I would say.
It's hard to say because it's not even necessarily fitness
that interests me to read about.
It's just, I'm interested in whatever I'm interested in.
Now, do I read business books?
I read a lot of economics books.
I don't know.
It's not specifically business.
It's more, it's kind of general.
I don't know if how much it communicates with business.
It does in a sense, but it's not specifically.
It does a lot.
That's the reason why you still have a very intelligent business mind.
Because it does translate a lot in there.
There's obviously some benefits to to being more just on that.
I tell you what, it's, I mean, it's one of the reasons why I live working with you guys
is where our interests are different, but complimentary.
Right, right.
That's exactly why I think it's really cool is that it probably wouldn't
be as successful if everybody was kind of the same ratio. And I think that the answer,
the bringing it all back to the question is that, I guess it's going to be different for every single
person and how they find success. Absolutely. Next question is from J. Cisnaros. If you guys get big enough, then what?
How do you maintain your authenticity? Well, what does that mean? That's so staying real, you know, being real being, you know, I know a way to do our stuff. What is what is big enough?
Yeah, what's, yeah, I know what's big enough. I don't know. I think Katrina and I just had this conversation at dinner there tonight and
She asked me that she goes something similar to what I think he's asking,
which is, you know, what do you get?
You know, when you guys are doing like really big things
and there's like tons of people
and like everything you're experiencing
is a hundred times more, like,
do you think you're gonna totally change?
And I'm like, well, I'm sure I'm gonna change.
Like, I've been changing every,
you're probably have to just,
right, and I'm definitely different
than when we first started.
Right, right. So I said, I'm sure I'm going to change, but. And I'm definitely different than when we first started. Right, right.
So I said, I'm sure I'm going to change,
but one of the things I appreciate,
and this is again, appreciating the journey,
is the way we have grown is different than I think,
a lot of people grow on social media.
I think a lot of people create something
that gets shared that's viral and then they're attached to that,
where we've had to kind of build this thing like a legitimate business.
It's taken us a very long time to get to where we're at
with the staffing that we have and revenue
that everyone's generating.
So I think we've experienced a little bit more
of the success, a little bit more of the success,
a little bit, it's been this nice gradual progression
for us and I think each time, and we've all done this, right?
We've all, you know, it's Sal and I after the LA Fed we've all done this right we've all you know
Sal and I after the LA FedExpo, you know sat in the room together and we were just like damn dude
That was crazy. I wasn't expecting that like I would we didn't tell anybody we said it like one time in the show
We'd be there and you know those people that waited in line to talk to us for an hour, dude
Like that was that was the first time that I had really any of us had really experienced that level of it before that
It was you know,
other things that we noticed.
And so I think that because we have slowly felt that,
over time, I think we're gonna remain who we are.
I don't think we're, as far as our authenticity, right?
As far as our message and what we believe in
and our connection to our people,
and I don't think it would ever waver our integrity.
And I think a lot of that,
because I don't know what it would be like
if I was 25 years old, and all of a sudden
we're making this company's worth millions of dollars
and we're making all this money,
and all these people, and we have this taste of fame.
What would that feel like?
I think that would be much,
and that's why too, I'm compassionate
when I meet somebody like a Bradley Martin
who's only 27 years old,
and he's got all this attention around him,
and he's got tons of people that love him, and then he's got all this attention around him, and he's got
tons of people that love him, and then he's got a lot of people that hate on him.
And it's like, this poor young guy, dude, is like, probably never experienced anything
like this, you know, back up five years before that.
He was just a normal normal.
I like you can just turn that off.
Yeah, dude, could you imagine being that young and then getting that much attention right
out the gate?
It's like, I feel like we're ready for that.
Like, I think all of us, let's put it this way.
None of us want that to the point where we always want
to put people in front of us.
Like, it's not about us.
And it's never been about feeding an ego.
And that's why it's always worked.
I don't think that'll ever change.
And so, I think that's where we're.
I think part of that, too, is, you know, here's the thing.
Like, this is a subject that's been a passion of mine for
a long time because I'm very interested in why people behave the way they do when they
get lots of power. So I've done lots of personal study on politicians and leaders and like,
why did, you know, celebrities and people who, when they reach a certain level, like, why do they behave
the way that they behave? It's insane. Like, what makes them think that?
And then you go even deeper, look at celebrities, look at bands that produce,
like, incredible music or partners that produce incredible movies,
and then all of a sudden, like, they fucking break up or they hate each other,
and you look at and you're like, what are you guys doing?
You guys are making great music.
Why would you do that?
Like you guys are so successful.
Why would you sabotage it?
And it's the ego.
Your ego kicks in, you all of a sudden think,
and I'm gonna tell you something right now,
as awesome as we think we are,
we are not immune.
In fact, it's probably better that we assume
that that is a reality and that we choose not to go in that direction
versus thinking I'm not capable of that
because I've never been in a situation like that.
I've never been in a situation where
all these people think everything I say is fucking awesome.
I'll tell you what, I've been talking about,
I've been debating politics forever on Facebook.
Okay, it's just a passion, am I right?
All of a sudden, I'll do it now.
I'll do a post or something on my Instagram,
and I'm getting people commenting or DMing me,
who are like, wow, you really changed my political view, Sal,
that's awesome.
I'm like, what?
That's never happened before.
Nobody ever changes the political view.
And it's because of the perceived authority
because I have a podcast and whatever.
And that can quickly go to your head,
now where you think you're the fucking man and whatever and so
The checks and not only can it it happens a lot
It happens a lot it happens a lot more often than not. I think and again
It's going back to what I was said about I think that's where we've been lucky to
Have get just bits of it along the way. I mean it would be really overwhelming to also go for no one's listening
to you to where tens of thousands of people are doing whatever you tell them to do. Well,
I think that could really fuck with somebody's help. Yeah, I think too, like it all depends
on what you become famous for. You know, like what you've established, what, you know,
what the mission that drove you to success versus like, you know, what, like what's keeping
you there? Right. And so that's why I don't, I don't see any problem with it.
Like I used to have a real big problem with being noticed, you know, like,
or like the idea of having some sort of a platform and fame and like
attention where I'm like, dude, I just want to be in the background.
I wouldn't be the guy that like, you know, put somebody out there, you know,
I'll make a good living for myself and whatever.
And I'm totally cool with that.
Whereas it's changed, it's already changed
because the driving message of the route
of what we're trying to accomplish is something
that people will benefit their lives and their lifestyle.
And it's pretty bold to say it's gonna change, you know, somewhat
of like the way that people perceive fitness and all that, but that's like our goals.
It's really like shake that up.
Well, there's been happening.
There's a couple of things that make me feel like good about this, because this always
worries me.
I'm like, okay, I'm working with these dudes.
What if shit goes fuck, and we crush, and it just explodes, and we're massive.
Like, how is that gonna affect everybody's personalities
and egos and all that?
And there's a couple of things that give me a little bit of comfort.
One is every single person on this podcast,
and even Doug, behind the podcast,
all of us are super reluctant to,
when it comes to fame.
None of us like it, which I find fascinating.
Like, when people recognize us and come talk to us,
like we help them or whatever,
but there's a little bit of like fuck,
like my, you know, I'm not anonymous anymore, you know?
Like I don't necessarily, like if I have my kids,
I definitely don't like to be a, you know, recognize.
I don't like to, so that kind of makes me feel good.
Like none of us are seeking it.
I don't think any of us are doing this for fame at all.
In fact, we've talked so much about how in the future
we could become less of the front
and more of the back or whatever, because of that.
So that makes me feel good.
And the other thing that makes me feel good
is we all check each other pretty well.
I know for a fact if my head gets too big,
I can rely on clockwork that I'm gonna get checked
by somebody on my team. 100%. It's gonna happen. Someone's gonna check me. And I guaranteework that I'm gonna get checked by somebody on my team 100%
It's gonna happen someone's gonna check me and I guarantee you I'm gonna check when you guys
If that should happen and so that is gonna be like the only thing that would ever worry me is if all of our heads get so
Fucking big that we all just blow each other all we'll bind to the same bulls just a big circle jerk
Yeah, we're so cool. Oh, yeah, that's a good idea
And but then the third thing is, that's a good idea.
But then the third thing is that there's a higher,
we always remind ourselves of a higher purpose
of what we're doing.
Like, okay, this is what we're really trying to do.
Let's just remember this, just remember this,
just remember this.
And if we keep aiming towards a higher purpose,
it'll maintain our integrity.
Because if we change that and it becomes about other things,
you can start to lose your focus
and you start to chase the shiny, you can start to lose your focus and
you start to chase the shiny object or whatever and then you change who you want.
And I just feel like authenticity is inversely related to integrity and that's something
that's been like a state.
We would lose everything if we lose our integrity.
That's what, I mean, that was what, how will we build this whole thing on?
And it's easier, it's actually easier now than it was before, I believe.
I believe when we are climbing up the mountain right now and trying to be a top podcast in
the health and fitness space, you know, and then we started getting these supplement
companies that want to talk to us, man, we entertained a lot of that stuff.
We entertained it in our heads like fuck, and we always stuck back to our original message
as this, we can't do that.
This is what we share and we talk about.
But then we also like, well, listen, we're going to be able to share and talk to anybody
if we can't keep the fucking lights on.
So this discussion has to be had.
Like how could we do this?
Or would this be a possibility?
And we did a lot of that for the first year or two.
And we're in a position now where,
we know that we could sustain the business as is.
And we don't necessarily have to grow.
Now all of us want to grow,
but we could sustain it the way it is right now
and not have to add any other pieces to it. And I think all of us want to grow, but we could sustain it the way it is right now and not have to add any other
pieces to it.
And I think all of us agree, we'd rather keep our integrity,
keep our authenticity and stay the same size we are now
and continue to provide better service, better stuff
for the core group that we have that are attached to us,
then grow to this massive size and lose our authenticity,
right?
So I think we are all in agreement.
That's right, man.
It's that quote, you know, what is it?
Man cannot live on bread alone.
Love that quote, such a so much wisdom in that.
Like, you know, what is team fire?
What is no, man, I'm not, stop it.
I'm not trying to pre, I'm not bringing it just short.
I'm not preaching real soon here, the Bible verse.
Yeah, he doesn't even know it, you know what I'm saying?
It starts throwing out shit of like, yeah, bro, that's King's 370. Yeah, he doesn't even know it, you know what I'm saying? He starts throwing out shit of like,
yeah, bro, that's King's 370.
Yeah, he is.
He's just, it's actually not know that.
It's just the wise, it's a wise quote.
I don't care if I'm not, I'm not a religious person
for the ranges of seeing his death.
You know, I, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Not a kid one.
You know, what worth is money and all success
and all that shit, if your soul is corrupted,
if you're not authentic, if you're fake, that is actually the definition of hell.
And if you don't believe me,
look at all those celebrities with all the money
and all that fame who die of drug overdoses,
who have three marriages and divorces
and who you know kill themselves because they're too depressed.
Like there you go, there's your evidence right there.
So I'm not looking for money and fame
unless that's the side effect of me being authentic.
How's that sound? There you go. Thank you very much.
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