Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 768: Building Muscle While Keto, How to Develop All 3 Muscles of the Glutes, Weaning Yourself from Endurance Training without Gaining Fat & MORE
Episode Date: May 11, 2018Organifi Quah! In this episode of Quah, sponsored by Organifi (organifi.com, code "mindpump" for 20% off), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about if it is possible to perform and grow on ...the ketogenic diet without glucose as fuel and glycogen depleted muscles, the difference in weighted glute bridges or weighted hip thrusts in developing all 3 parts of the glutes, their thoughts on turning 30, and the best way to back out of endurance training without gaining a lot of weight. We’re Rich! Apple’s podcasts just topped 50 billion all-time downloads and streams. (4:23) Mind Pump gets bidets! (5:44) Justin stepping up his show game and his grill! (10:12) Sal is on fire with Four Sigmatic's new Mushroom Matcha w/ Lion's Mane. (14:33) Sal the instigator. Sal’s girlfriend humbles the guys in a feat of strength. (16:39) Being a hypochondriac when it comes to your own kids health. (19:50) The reality of sensitivity and being too harsh. When did we decide adversity and struggle was too hard? (22:45) The New Jared. Wisconsin Man Eats 30,000th McDonald's Big Mac and the guys share their last fast food experience. (28:21) #Quah question #1 - Is it possible to perform and grow on the ketogenic diet without glucose as fuel and glycogen depleted muscles? (37:56) #Quah question #2 - The difference in weighted glute bridges or weighted hip thrusts in developing all 3 parts of the glutes. (49:25) #Quah question #3 – What are your thoughts on turning 30? (1:01:14) #Quah question #4 – What is the best way to back out of endurance training without gaining a lot of weight? 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Yeah, you know, so cool.
Can't wait to set my mind.
Sparkly Taints, Justin eats his own tooth.
Yeah, it's a new diet.
Whips.
I mentioned four.
I thought it later on my shit.
I mentioned the four-sigmatic mushroom matcha
with lion's mane.
I'm on fire.
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Actually smells all right.
We talk about putting kids in a bubble to keep them safe.
Oh, trigger, trigger warning.
Fast food and infertility, they actually did a study
showing that women can double the risk of infertility
if they eat a lot of fast and fertility food
infertility. When you're infertility. Yeah eat a lot of fast and fordility. Food.
Infertile. When you're inferred.
Daily, daily.
And we talked about the Big Mac guy and the last time we ate a Big Mac, who do you think
is the last person in this room who ate a Big Mac?
If you're guessing at him, you're right.
Then we get to the questions.
The first question was, this person loves the ketogenic diet for mental health and for
longevity, but they're also a physique competitor
and wants to know if it's possible to perform
and grow muscle while on keto.
So we have a little keto discussion on that one.
Next question was, what is the difference between,
or what are the differences with weighted hip thrust
in developing all three parts of the glutes?
You might not know this, but your butt is made up
of three separate members, you might not know this, but your butt is made up of three separate members,
just like mind pump.
Yeah.
We are just one big butt.
We're the ass of podcasting.
We're the ass of podcasting.
The best part.
Glad you finally put that together.
Yep.
The next question was, this person is about to turn 30, wants to know if we have any advice
for them.
Well, since 30, listen to mind pump, I think they've got it all down.
And finally, what's the best way to back out of endurance training
without gaining a ton of weight?
We lay out a strategy for this individual.
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You see my post on Just in the Oscar Meyer?
Oh bro, you're ripping Just in the Lyme.
All right, it's coming hot, that's a good question. That is literally literally what's going through his head sometimes when I know we're rambling and talking
He's got old like 80s jingles going a set. It's very accurate. I thought I thought it was
I thought I wasn't like I couldn't get mad at it. I'm waiting for the retaliation. It wasn't a full
It wasn't a flattering picture though. I was like I'm not using that shit. Oh, I thought I'm waiting for the retaliation. It wasn't a full. It was in a flattering picture though
I was like I'm not using that shit. Oh, I'm using it right away. Oh, yeah, perfect
You know, well the one of me like to spooning a pillow isn't the best either
Get treated Katrina got it she goes you know, I'm saying these over to Kyle
Do you really want this picture of you spooning a fucking pillow? I'm like the dudes wearing a fucking
These were in a pink unicorn shirt. I'm like the dudes wearing a fucking pink unicorn shirt. He's wearing a pink unicorn shirt
I'm not worried about me. It's just talked about this in the last episode confidence
I'm comfortable. Yeah, I like it with your lace sideways like that because you have your legs kind of together
She's making fun of guys. You're playing with your feet
She's like give you a little poke
Yeah, so
I feel like give you a little punk. Yeah.
Hey, so,
In the Tush.
Article came out, Apple's podcast just topped 50 billion all time downloads and streams.
They're iTunes,
so they're streaming,
Oh, yeah.
They just hit 50 billion total streams.
So here's some stats for you guys, those that are,
Oh, damn, that's a lot of listens.
Right.
So here's how much it's grown in 2014 there were seven
billion podcast downloads and
2014 2016 that number jumped to 10.5 billion downloads in
2017 it jumped to
13.7 billion
episode downloads and streams across podcasts and iTunes and then then in March, 2018, Apple Podcasts pass 50 billion
all time.
It went from 13 to 15.
It's exploding.
13 to 50.
Crazy right?
What?
Crazy right?
We felt it.
We're rich.
I wish you were that way.
Well, you know what?
We said this from early on, like just hang on.
As long as we don't suck, and we like, we just kind of hang on,
we'll just surprise. Imagine if we got worse.
Yeah, we were trying really hard.
It's not a match.
Ah!
Yeah, that's suck.
Damn it Justin, you got a shit on everything.
I'm saying, I'm not doing that.
Speaking of shit, okay.
Did anybody install the fucking bidet?
I haven't yet.
Oh, can we give a shout out to our boy?
Bro, what's his name? I left mine here at the studio. we give a shout out to our boy? Bro, what's his name?
I left mine here at the studio.
I can't wait to use it.
What's Desmond's last name?
Smith.
Is it? Oh, I should have remembered that.
Desmond's real tough last name.
Can I tell you something, man?
First of all, you're the man.
So I need to know the brand of this bidet
because I want to shut it out.
So easy, I installed it in my house.
When I get home, I'm taking a five minute listen.
I can do it.
Anybody can do it.
Block me through it because
obviously water comes through that.
Where do you attach it to?
So you take off your toilet seat, which is easy.
There's two screws in the back.
You put the device on top of your toilet,
then you put the seat over it.
So now it's secured.
And you have this little control thing next to you, right?
The, there's a, they give you an adapter that you attach, the tube that already
goes to your toilet, you attach to this adapter and then you attach that to the toilet and
then the adapter has another female part coming out so then you attach another, the other
tools. What tools are necessary to do that? No tools. You're all by hand? Just a screwdriver.
That's it. Oh, a screwdriver. For my, because I had to take off the toilet seat. That's
it. It's Lux. Lux, but day. Is I had to take off the toilet seat. That's it.
It's Lux.
Lux, but day.
Is that the one we got?
Yeah, that's the one.
Yeah, Lux, but day, Neo.
Oh wow.
So how does it work?
Do you like it?
You sit down.
Now, and when you're ready, you fucking spray your butthole.
And let me tell you, this is the first time I've ever used one.
Oh, it is.
Like you don't know what it's like to you.
So here's what it might.
Oh, it hit direct.
It went straight in the butthole.
Straight out.
It's like, and go mild. It went straight in the bubble. Straight out the way.
It's like, and go mild,
because you can shoot that fucker hard.
And I did the first level.
It's like anima.
Any harder than I would have been bad.
I would have had.
So now the one thing about these,
which I'm curious to what it feels like
and how cold it is on your butt.
So the ones that you install them,
they have a hot anacol.
No, this is the,
you get a nice warm butt you know, but liquid.
I like cold because after I'm done going to bathroom,
liquid guys, it's already hot in your butt.
It's a little smoke coming off of it.
You don't have to, you have to cook your eggs at the pan
and you put water on it.
It's not like so cold or it's like, ah!
It's not like crazy cold.
It's cold.
It's cool.
But this is so great.
Like, so now we have one toilet with a bidet in my house It's cold. It's cold. Is it? It's cool. But this is so great.
Like, so now we have one toilet with a bidet in my house
and it's in my room.
And that's the only toilet I poop in now.
So now I go upstairs, everybody's like,
why you go upstairs?
It literally makes so much sense.
I'm surprised it's taking this long
for America to get behind.
Bro, you save on toilet paper too
because you spray your butt with the water.
Yeah.
And then you turn it off and then you use one,
you only have the wipe once to dry.
Now if you really want to be environmentally friendly,
you just, you just sit there till it dries.
But I don't have enough time.
I don't have enough time.
I've already spent 30 minutes.
Dripped right through Instagram.
No thanks.
You didn't read my, you didn't do my Insta story?
I did.
It's really hard to catch.
I didn't even catch it.
Obviously I know I spelled downloaded,
but the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the W in the inner flip flop.
Yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm pretty sure I'm dyslexic, bro. No, you may be. I'm pretty sure.
That's the, right? You are very intelligent. It's very creative.
You know, it's weird is all, I'll look at that. It's not like I don't, like, because I know
I do it so often, I try and be conscious of like, I know what I'm being lazy and I just rip shit out fast. It's like,
whatever, I don't give a shit what people say. Then there's times where I'm like, I was trying
to put a nice little story together there. You know, like Dean, Dean, nice one. And I look
at it before, thought I spelled check to real quick. The Justin bucket jabs me right after
afterwards.
Well, have you, you got me on the couch? Just wait till you get, to just wait till you get spell checked by your own kid.
That's always fun.
Oh man.
My kid corrects me every day.
Now, are you guys as kids at an age
where they are like learning stuff
that's like already above your guys' level?
My son.
My son's in seventh grade two,
but he's such a whiz at math
that he takes math at very advanced levels and math also happens to be my weakness.
That's like my kryptonite.
So for sure, he's never asking dad for help.
For sure.
And thank God he's good at it.
He doesn't ever ask for help.
But if there's ever a situation where he's like, hey, can you help me with my math homework?
I'm just going to be like, dude, listen to my son's eight, but it's happening quickly.
Is it really?
Yeah, because he already remembers things I don't,
you know, like things that literally happened,
you know, like a couple of months ago,
he remembers to the T, like describes everything,
and I'm like, no, it didn't happen.
And then like, yeah, Courtney will be like, yeah,
yeah, no, that happened.
He's like, and he's always super accurate.
Like he is like the best memory.
Can we just, can we take a moment and point out
Justin's shoe game today?
Yeah, what's going on there?
Boom!
I like the Camelow SBs, bro.
I'm a huge SB fan.
In fact, you've now motivated me to bring them back
in the rotation, so I was on a kick for about,
I don't know, a year or two there
where that's all I wore was the low top high top.
They go nice with the sweat shorts.
Yeah, they do.
See, I still have a little bit of my own flavor to it,
but I feel like, I don't know,
just going around you guys, maybe it's definitely Adam's
influence.
It's got it in Taylor.
So, it's my, it's just, I was looking at you and I was like,
trying to come up with something,
I was like, no, no, it's definitely Adam and Taylor.
What's my influence of sweat shorts? Are you like, I'm never gonna look as bad. In there. something, I was like, no, no, it's definitely Adam and Taylor. What's my influence of sweatshorts?
Are you like, I'm never gonna look as bad there.
In there, hey, I'm in there.
Can you guys start wearing wife beaters?
No, forget it.
You know what?
You're right.
That, honestly though, I am a little inspired
to start rocking.
Let me tell you something now.
Nothing makes you feel more secure.
You rock the fuck out of those.
Nothing makes you more secure feeling in your body
than when you have a tight snug wife-beater on underneath your shirt. It's like the hugging you like it's like the
sun creatures gonna die. It's like a thunder vest for guys. Yeah, I just
gonna say that like I never bark because I have because I have this on. Shit that's
where your confidence comes from. Oh, I feel so. Oh my. Hey, so when is your
tooth get fixed? Oh my God. I just I just you just started laughing. I didn't
realize it. It's like like I look laughing. Like, I look like Jewel.
You know, like, before she got to fit,
like, with like the little corn to, in the corner,
that's like, I think you should keep it like that.
I think it's, I still have character now.
You know what I mean?
I gotta tell the story because I was,
yeah, where did it go for us?
I see like, well, so here's the thing.
I'm not, like, I went to my dentist buddy
who set me up with these amazing teeth
and like everything, I was so stoked
because I finally got my permanence
and they're nice and smooth and I'm like,
oh, I love the feel of it, but one of the canines
came a little bit chipped
and so he had to order another one to replace it.
And so he's like, well, in the meantime, I can kind of file this down
and stick this back in as a temporary and you can have it,
but just be very conscious that it's gonna be
a little bit loose if you chew anything,
like are you just, you know,
like just be conscious of like eating on the other side
of your mouth, basically.
And so, you know, me being the fucking bull in a Chinese shop, uh, you're fucking
you. You go to orders and goes orders of rib eye steak, probably dude, I had like,
the way you saw the, you had carne asada. What are you thinking? And I was chewing my
way through and I'm having the conversation with my wife and all of a sudden, um, I've
like, my tongue hits up in, in the corner there. And I'm like, oh my god, there's, there's
a hole. It was like, oh my God, there's a hole.
I was like, oh shit.
And this had happened earlier in that day,
it had kind of fallen out.
And I was like, oh no, I gotta be really conscious of this.
And I shoved it back in real hard.
And so I was like eating and chewing.
And I was like, oh my God, it's gone.
And then I'll sudden panic.
And I'm like, wait, I can't find it.
And then I spit all my food out
and I'm like sifting through it. Oh, so gross. I'm sifting them. I was like, wait, I can't find it. And then I spit all my food out and I'm like sifting through it.
Oh, so gross.
I'm sifting them.
I was like panicking, you know, like, oh shit, you know.
And you know, Courtney just like looks at me like ghosted,
like, interface, she's like, oh my god.
And I was like, I swallowed it, I fucking swallowed it.
And I definitely swallowed it.
And then I was like, okay, my first instinct is,
well, maybe I can puke it up, right?
Maybe I can still, you know, get this, right?
I went to the bathroom and I'm like, you know, trying to make this work and I'm just
cramping like crazy, nothing's coming up and I just like gave up, I was like, ah, fuck
it.
And so I waited until I pooped and I got it and I put it back in.
No, I didn't do that. So I just gave up on it and i'm just rocking it
so i get my my driving it so you haven't seen it pass out if you check to see if it's passed
there's no checking in that mess bro i'm not gonna sift through my shit
i just let it go i was like you know what i swallowed it like an asshole
and uh... i'm just gonna have to pay the price so this weekend i just look like a
crazy hillbilly.
You couldn't find a fluorescent light and that fucking mess.
That's it.
Fuck you man.
It could be a piece of fucking glowing cryptonite.
Yeah, like where is my building?
I'm like a block of gold.
It could have shot out of the wall behind me.
You wouldn't even know.
I can't see anything.
There's nothing in there.
There's leprechauns in there. Nobody knows.
Nobody knows what's going on.
That's how it all happened.
Man, this fucking, do this four-sigmatic matcha lion's mane thing that they gave me?
That's shit's fire, dude.
I just saw you got a box from the...
They have to be the most judicious about sending us stuff, bro.
We get maybe like two things whenever they say this.
Like all the rest of our sponsors.
Yeah.
The rest of our sponsors, they see the one that really uses it.
So we're gonna give you two things.
Yeah.
Well, the rest of our sponsors, we have so much supplements, which I love
that we can now, we can provide them for other people
to give them away all the time.
We do cool stuff with them.
Never are short on it.
For sigmatic, dude, they send us like, they send us a single person's care package every time we get our monthly
Travel thanks. That's the one who uses it the most and I don't really give two shits, but what is this new stuff?
This is the mushroom matcha drink mix
So it's got matcha in there, which is a type of green tea. So when they grow green tea
if some of the leaves
grow in shady areas
they grow with a higher concentration of If some of the leaves grow in shady areas,
they grow with a higher concentration of antioxidants.
I think the caffeine in matcha is similar,
higher in the theine, and so they call it matcha
because it's a special, it's this more expensive
version of green tea, and the way they make it,
in, I know in Japan, I think, is they use the powder,
so what they do is they take these leaves, they dry them, grind them up into a fine powder and
then you make that into a paste and then you can make that into a drink. So you're actually
drinking like green tea powder and I love it. I've always loved matcha tea. Doug, did you drink
a lot of matcha when you were in Japan? Yeah, fair amount. They had a whole process, right?
Where they would whisk it and... Yeah, there's actually a tea ceremony. It's very complex and involved.
But, you know, the average person, yeah, if you just drink matcha,
you just gonna put some hot water and some matcha together
and drink it.
Now, how does it taste?
This tastes like green tea.
So it's got...
Oh, really?
Yeah, so it's got matcha in there, and then lion's mane,
which is that neutropic thing for the brain,
and ginger, which I love taking ginger or turmeric
with any type of a stimulant because the...
It just makes me feel bad now.
Yeah, but anyway, man, it's just got me on fire.
Yeah, I got a funny story to tell you guys, by the way.
Oh, please do.
So I was up in the city visiting my brother a couple better.
It smells good, huh?
Yeah, it does smell better than their stuff.
So I was up in the city a couple weekends ago.
Remember when I was visiting my brother
and his $5 million, no, not really,
but he's spending like six grand
on a two bedroom apartment.
Right.
Cause San Francisco's ridiculous.
Yeah.
Anyway, we're up there and we leave his apartment
to go walking around the town
and we're gonna get some food.
And there was this outdoor workout area.
And they do yoga classes and pilates classes.
And I got to figure out where it was.
It was pretty cool, right?
So we're down there, we're walking around.
And then they had these monkey bars that were for adults.
And you would have to climb up
and then climb down on the monkey bars.
So it wasn't straight across.
It wasn't going up and then down. And the monkey bar. So it wasn't straight across. It was going up and then down.
And that's hard.
Have you ever done that before?
Yeah.
So it's much more difficult to go upward when you're doing monkey bars and then going down.
You got to have a good grip, good strength.
Right.
So we're walking around.
We see the monkey bars and you know, Jessica's with me and she's all dressed up.
You know, she's wearing heels and stuff because we're in the city and we're going to go out to dinner and order lunch or whatever. And so she sees the monkey
bar, she's like, oh cool. And so she's, you know, she's fucking, my mom calls her the aunt because
she's small and strong like an aunt. She's like, she's not very big. She's, you know, whether she
five one, but she's strong as shit. So she gets on these monkey bars and she's just,
poop, poop, poop, poop, poop, poop, poop, poop, poop, and just jams across the whole thing, right?
Now I know how difficult physical things are because I worked out all the time. and she's just, whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop who do that. Yeah, yeah, you do it. Yeah, so I said, oh, I said, you should give it a try
to my cousin, now he's just a dick.
Yeah, you should give it a try.
I just good, dude.
So I was like, I could do that.
So he gets up there.
And he goes, I think he makes it like three monkey bars.
Like one, two, three, people, that, right.
So I'm cracking up.
So now my brother, who arguably my brother's extremely strong,
genetically speaking, he's stronger than I am.
It's just I work out and he doesn't,
but the kids is strong kid, but he's also big heavy kid.
He's like 220 pounds.
Right, not the best suit for that.
No, so, and it's here, it's your hands, you know what I mean?
So my brother jumps up and he's like, all do it.
I'm like, all right, yeah, give it a shot, dude.
And my brother always has to, like, if it's a physical thing,
he has to win, right? So I'm watching him and he's fucking just giving it everything's down
Oh man, he's like
Fucking couldn't make it dude halfway down. I was laughing so
Fucking hard. Yeah, so hard and I was making fun of but then I'm like look she's super strong
He's like yeah, but she's really light if I only wait a hundred twenty
I'm like, look, she's super strong. And he's like, yeah, but she's really light.
If I only weighed 120 pounds,
I just can probably do it too.
And I'm like, I could probably strap on
a more weight on Jessica
and she could still probably do it.
But I love, I love she like, yeah.
So fun.
Humbling moment.
Oh, those are the best.
It's one of my favorite things.
I don't care.
When I see, if I see a girl kick my ass,
I think it's fricking.
Just applaud it.
Yeah, I think it's awesome.
Yeah. Oh, I love it. I absolutely love it. Oh, I think it's awesome. Yeah.
Oh, I love it.
I absolutely love it.
Anyway, I was gonna ask you just some advice earlier
in the earlier in the episode.
I have a problem where if one of my kids,
because right now my daughter sick, she's home from school,
I can't, I have such a tough time dealing with that shit.
I get super paranoid.
Do you get paranoid?
When your kids are sick, are you like cool?
Like, okay, then.
Oh, yeah.
No, I struggle with the same thing
because you know that you're not there
to kind of help manage the process.
And like, you know, it's like out of your control, right?
So yeah, man, it's just, you gotta hope that
whoever's the caregiver at the time, you know,
like you just, you kind of just check in, right?
Throughout the day and just see how things are progressing
and what's happening, but yeah, that's a tough one day.
The problem with me is that I can be such a hypochondriac that my mind and I know a decent amount. They're gonna be okay.
Yeah, that's I know that. I know that logically, but you just have to tell yourself that because symptoms that kids have like
Oh vomiting or fever or whatever and it's like oh, what if my kid has leukemia or some shit?
You know, I always go like to the worst to the worst places and I freak myself out.
No, it's so bad.
It's true.
And I'm actually thankful.
Terrible.
It's kind of a weird place because my wife's a nurse
and so it's like, I lean heavy on that fact alone,
but there's been moments where, you know,
shoul lose sort of rational thinking.
And then I have to kind of step in and be like,
no, like this is just, yeah, you know,
it's just choking, we're gonna do this
and just kind of be practical about it
or like we're gonna call, we're gonna take them to the ER
or whatever, we're have to like step in
and because it's crazy.
Oh, is she your own kid?
Is she more likely to freak out than you are?
I would think it would be you
because I think she would be like,
she's seen all kinds of crazy shit.
She'd be like, ah, they'll be fine.
Yeah.
It's a little bit of a rub some dirt on it.
I think it's because she's exposed
to the worst case scenarios all the time.
That she assumes the worst,
like kind of what Sal's describing.
Where I, that's interesting.
I would've thought the other way.
I try to come from the other angle
Where like maybe it's just this and we're just over reacting and we need to just be practical
She's like no the bird flu is going on right now. These are the same symptoms right under the hospital now
Exactly or like you know something like he's playing near the window and like she's had cases where kids fall
The window and are coming into the hospital like all messed up and I'm just like you know We'll just we're not gonna let him of the window and are coming into the hospital, like all messed up and I'm just like,
you know, we're just, we're not gonna let them
near the window, you know, like,
it's just like leaving them alone,
they're not gonna like crawl out the window,
like, that's probably an unlikely situation,
but it's stuff like that, like, yeah,
she sees the worst and I'm always trying to kind of bring it
back to like, well, that's very much of a microcosm
of what's going on, like there's people that, you know, it does happen,
but it's less frequent than you think.
You just see it all the time.
Yeah, it's just, I always get fucking scared.
I hate that.
I hate that because they're kids.
They're gonna get sick.
They're gonna get hurt.
Like the odds that everyone wants to put them in a bubble.
You know what?
Speaking of the bubble thing, you guys,
I wanted to ask you because I, uh, speaking of my bubble. Yeah. No, speaking of putting kids in a bubble. You know what? Speaking of the bubble thing, you guys, I wanted to ask you, because I,
speaking of my bubble,
yeah, no, speaking of putting kids in a bubble
or protecting them or cry closets,
which that conversation stirred up
quite the fuss on our forum.
I meant to ask you, like,
yeah, it did,
because it was an art installation.
It was an art project.
And people thought we were being harsh
on the younger generation and this and that,
but I mean, it's, yes, we are being harsh,
but there is a reality that we tend to wrap kids.
Life is fucking harsh.
Yeah, I think, I don't know, like it,
it's that struggle.
It's the same thing we're kind of describing with like a sick.
They have to go through that process of having a fever.
And you have to give them the amount of time
to be able to fight and build up their immune system process of having a fever and they have to, you have to give them the amount of time to,
to be able to fight and, and build up their immune system towards things. And that's a hard thing to,
when it's your own kid, like, to watch them go through that. And like, or if you see any signs of,
like, suffering or you want to like, when did we give them something? When did we decide that
adversity and struggle was a bad thing? Well, when did this happen? When did it happen? When did it happen that struggle,
hard times adversity was such a bad thing?
It's, I think it's always been a bad thing.
I think in the past, it was just,
there was nothing you could do about it.
Like, you know what I mean?
Like your dad's working,
you know, there's five kids in the family.
You know, things are super physical, even at home.
We don't have, you know, all these luxuries.
And so, we don't have technology that keeps connected and tethered to your kid all the time.
And so it's just a reality of life.
And so once we got to the point where we could try to eliminate more and more struggle,
that's the thing.
Yeah, we would do more because here's a deal.
Here's the problem at them.
When I'm in pain, when I'm sick, when I'm doing. I'm not gonna tell you what I'm doing.
I'm not gonna tell you what I'm doing.
I'm not gonna tell you what I'm doing.
I'm not gonna tell you what I'm doing.
I'm not gonna tell you what I'm doing.
I'm not gonna tell you what I'm doing.
I'm not gonna tell you what I'm doing.
I'm not gonna tell you what I'm doing.
I'm not gonna tell you what I'm doing.
I'm not gonna tell you what I'm doing.
I'm not gonna tell you what I'm doing. I'm not gonna tell you what I'm doing. I is not to like roll this parent under the bus or anything
But I saw a kid that put you gonna do it anyways. Well, I'm not gonna name names
but so this kid like
basically
fell script or knee like you know hats had some blood and
Just basically what kids do right like it's in pain crying screaming whatever
So the parent not only just like,
Cautill's a kid like crazy,
but now gets ibuprofen and feeds him ibuprofen,
like a media.
For a scrape knee.
For a scrape knee.
ibuprofen, right?
Never.
I was appalled by what I saw with that,
but at the same time, it kind of
highlight a lot of what I see with,
I don't know, the current state of like everybody's mentality towards, you know, just struggle.
And I feel like, I think that's why we kind of voice against things like the cryic
closet and like these sort of things that are emerging. It's as parents, we want to set our kids
up to be able to overcome their own challenges, their own obstacles.
What are going to happen? That's what strength is. Strength is being able to get through all
these things that come at them in life.
And I'm not setting them up for giving in the proper tools of how to find that within
themselves.
I'm not doing my job as a parent.
Totally.
I have a great analogy because we talk about, obviously, fitness most of the time.
If there was a way that somebody could get all the benefits of fitness, the strength, the
fat loss, the mobility, the health, you know, all the physical benefits from fitness without
having to work out, put hard work in sweat, you know, feel the body get sore, all that
stuff.
Would they be getting the same benefits?
Think about that, right?
They would only be getting the physical benefits, but what about the other benefits you get through training?
Like, there's so many benefits I get from the pain
of fitness, from the sacrifice of fitness,
from the-
The goal is our discipline and consistency.
You know, there's so many lessons in that.
That's what I'm saying.
Like, we think that these things are such a positive thing,
but why isn't anybody leading at the negative side of it?
Like, you're weakening that kid. You're weakening that person by doing that. It's real easy to say, as a parent, I want a positive thing, but why isn't anybody looking at the negative side of it? Like you're weakening that kid,
you're weakening that person by doing that.
It's real easy to say, as a parent, I want to coddle,
I want to help them, or I want to build a cry closet,
so when finals get so tough, they have a place they can go cry.
But okay, I get that.
I get that you have a place and it supports you,
but then do you get what that also could be setting you
up for in life?
Because if you think fucking finals for school is the hardest thing you're going to face, you know, in real life,
newsflash.
You're in for a fucking rude awakening when you get out there.
Yeah.
I think it's, I think what's great about college and the struggle and those types of hard,
stressful moments is it's preparing you for even more that's going to happen later on
in life and shit at your time.
It's not easy here. You're the same. Yeah, same with sports. Come on. preparing you for even more that's gonna happen later on in life and shit at your time.
It's the same, yeah.
The same was sports.
I mean, that's why you need to lose.
You need to get your ass kicked in sports.
Like you get to understand,
at least the environment is controlled environment, right?
So that way when you face things in real life
that you don't know the outcome, you don't know where this is even coming from.
It just hits you from left field all of a sudden.
How are you going to get up and react?
How are you going to keep on keeping on?
You have to learn how to do that.
Keep on keeping on.
Keep on keeping on.
I'm living in Songwinder.
Maybe.
So, another interesting statistic from a study,
check this out.
A study examining 5,000 women,
so it was a decent sample size,
found that women who ate fast food four times a week or more,
you ready for this?
Double the risk of infertility, infertility.
So women who ate fast food a lot,
which obviously it's probably not the fast food,
it's the fact that they probably are unhealthy general, right?
Double the risk of infertility,
and there's a bit of an infertility issue
that seems to be going on right now with people.
Part of it is I think people are having kids
a little later in life,
but I also think part of it is sperm counts are dropping,
and women are having issues with fertility,
and it might be due to the fact
that they've been on birth control for long periods of time, but also because their their their their night is healthy.
Did you see what hit the news?
Crazy, right?
So crazy.
You've green that up.
Did you see what hit the news with the big Mac guy?
No.
You guys that hit the news this week.
What's the big Mac guy?
He just hit since 1972.
He's been eating at least two big Macs a day every single day.
30,000 big Macs. He's consumed.
Old as the hell.
Let's see here his article out in real quick here.
There's 140.
No examine his gut after he's done.
He's an interesting looking character.
I don't know. He looks like he's in his late 50s or so, I'd say.
You know somebody's gonna be like see.
See, you can eat that way and be like,
I want him to get a colonoscopy.
He says, I'm trying to get to 40,000.
That'll take me another 14 years.
What a goal.
Oh, there's his name right there.
There he is.
He's always a world record holder.
His name is David Gorsky.
What a cool record.
So he's an active, yeah.
I wonder if he gets free big Macs now. What a cool record. So he's an active. Yeah. I wonder if he gets free big Macs now.
What a great scheme.
You can't say.
How much bull?
He's a new Jared.
How much bull shit does it mean he doesn't get free big Macs?
I don't know.
I bought 30,000 these motherfuckers.
Kick me some free ones.
Right.
You got to think he's not normal.
If you're eating two, one to two of them every day,
I just want to go obsessive compulsive.
I just want to go on record saying though,
the the the fakes worst burger that tastes the best
is a big Mac in my opinion.
Do you know when's the last time you guys have had a big Mac?
Oh my god, at least five years.
I never liked McDonald's burger.
I've never been a fan of Big Mac.
I never loved Big Mac.
I was like more prone to Carl's Jr.
It is a lot of bread.
It's too much bread, but you know,
that's got the fucking thousand.
That's a great point.
That's a great point.
And this is crazy how much that shifted as I got older.
Like now I want a meatie burger with light, a light bun.
As a kid I wanted all the carbs.
Yeah.
I mean I used to eat a Big Mac with two orders of fries
or something because I loved all the carbs.
I'm totally opposite now. If I go to get a burger, I two orders of fries or something because I loved all the carbs. I'm totally opposite now.
If I go to get a burger, I'll get no fries and two big old.
McDonald's burgers just taste processed and engineered.
Oh, they do.
I mean, they're good since day one.
That's why they're so good though.
That's why they hijacked.
They're so nice.
So the only thing that I can see people like,
oh wow, they have the best fries.
They have the best fries.
There's a secret to that, right?
Didn't we talk about this?
I don't know, they spent a lot of money on fries. Yeah, there's a secret to what they have the best fries. They have the best fries. There's a secret to that, right? Didn't we talk about this? I don't know, they spent a lot of money on it.
No, there's a secret to what they do with the fries.
There's also something they do to the-
They made a deal with the devil.
The coke stuff.
They inject more syrup into their coke and stuff.
Did they really?
They have a couple little tricks they do that's pretty gangster.
But that knows their shapes when you let a melt.
Ew, it's like snot.
What?
Yeah, like you know.
Oh, that's because they use the mix.
It's so good.
I watched that on that documentary.
Yeah.
On that documentary, that movie.
The founder.
Yeah, it's just like a powder.
It's just a powder.
It's not even like that.
Yeah, it turns into this like weird gelatinous.
It's snot.
It's not even real ice cream.
I used to love that too.
I know.
The Big Mac, you know what I used to eat
was the double quarter pounded with cheese.
If I went to McDonald's, that was the burger that I had because it was more burger.
Eat the chicken nuggets.
That was that guy.
Do you know you were that kid?
Yeah, is that all you eat is chicken nuggets?
Chicken nuggets, dude.
I remember those commercial with the little chicken nuggets.
So I got that for picky kids, for picky eaters, chicken nuggets is like, that's a home run.
Yeah, that's the remedy.
You guys ever see that special?
Do you see this special?
I bet you've seen that the Jamie,
how it's his last name, Jamie something.
He was, he was a, he went across America,
like health food stuff.
And his big thing, he was addressing with the chicken.
All right.
Jamie, fuck with his last name.
He does this thing.
If you do this, Google Jamie chicken nuggets.
I guarantee he'll pop up.
So this ruined it forever for me.
This came on TV. I don't
remember how long this way show how they're made. Yes. Don't tell me he had a group of kids. He had a
group of kids sitting in front of them and he started making up some chicken, right? And he wanted to
show these kids how they were made. And then he wanted to ask how many of these Jamie Oliver, Jamie
Oliver there it is. And he makes these chicken nuggets. When was this wouldn't this air? How long ago
was it? I don't remember when the first, when the show,
or this 2010, that was, so it's at least eight years ago
that I see, but this like forever ruined chicken nuggets
for me, like I'll never touch a chicken nugget
after watching this.
And that's the exact scene right there.
Wow, you found it, Doug, good job.
He chops it all up, right?
And then you see him like blend it
and grind up all the bone, all the bone and cartilage.
And that's what really makes this nugget.
And then he deep-priced it.
Now the crazy part is the kids are watching this right now.
So if you guys Google Jamie Oliver
shows kids chicken nuggets,
it's a crazy video to watch.
What I found the most fascinating about this video
is the kids are getting disgusted by it
when they see actually how he makes the chicken
nuggets right now he's gonna start to cut up all the cartilage
and the bone and stuff and then blend it and what's kids are
like oh they're gross then when it's all complete he's like
we you guys want some these they all wanted it of course
of course I thought that was really fascinating look at
see they're all grossed out by the cartilage everything then
they they they blends it all together deep deep fries it
The kids are like pours it in like mmm and fries it. No, I never liked their burger their burgers that much
I like the fries. I like their well at least you're getting like organ meat, right? Yeah, I mean hey like bone
Yeah, that's true, but they add more than just than just that. Oh, yeah
There's more than just chicken in there like rats. There's other stuff in there
than just that. Oh yeah, yeah, that's what you mean.
There's more than just chicken in there.
Like rats.
There's other stuff in there to keep it.
Like rats.
Wow, that's a CT up for it.
Don't get a suit by fucking McDonald's.
I don't say it.
I heard things.
I heard things.
Oh my god, it is a trouble.
So you had one five years ago.
When's the last time you had McDonald's?
I don't even know.
It may be long.
It may be long.
I avoided that specific.
I don't know.
I would say I'd have Wendy's like probably the last time I had fast food
It was probably yeah, they put fingers in people's food. Oh
That's a shit
Like in the in the chili
Yeah, a finger in chili was it her own or
I think so oh my god and then she's so ridiculous. Yeah, you guys put a finger on my to your finger bitch
Yeah, it's your own finger
I put a finger and you're chilly and try and see a company use another finger. Yeah, it's so easy for them to figure out
It's yours. What do you what is everyone's last? What is so yours was Wendy's I would have to say mine was probably McDonald's probably five years ago
Or so it makes and I remember the day I actually went you know
It's what I went and bought two big Macs and a fry and then came back and watched 16 and pregnant boy was I
Not feeling well. Yeah, I was sick. No, it's coming off being sick. Did you get the
Did you get only someone to give you a hug?
You're gonna go through all the steps. You know, I just
Have instant diarrhea?
No, I don't think I did actually because I think I was so I was I was sick for like two words
You know when you have sometimes when you get out of a flu you come out of a flu
You kind of crave that like greasy or two. You know when you have, sometimes when you get out of a flu, you come out of a flu, you kind of crave that, like greasy nasty food, you don't crave.
Salaries, you just want, yeah.
And you, exactly.
And so I was after being sick having the flu for a couple of days,
it was like the last day that I was staying home from work.
And I was like, oh, you know what?
I haven't had a big Mac in years.
I'm a grown up, I'm gonna go do this.
I'm gonna throw it down and got myself two big Macs. Surprise came You want the toy? Yeah, you want the toy. The last thing I ate
was probably Carl's Jr. That's if I had to pick like, oh, I wish that was my last one. Yeah,
that's that's my favorite. You know, it's gonna happen now that we're talking about this. Someone's
gonna make a run at some point. No, you know, it's great. Double Western bacon cheese. I have done it.
Okay, so five years ago it's probably about the last time I had it, about seven or eight
years ago, was when I stopped ever having it in my diet.
And then, of course, I had the few times of, let me try this.
I haven't had it in a long time.
And I've been show enough times I've had been torn up in my gut from it, that it doesn't,
I might don't even want it anymore.
You know, it's funny though.
I don't even. I can imagine the taste, it's funny though, I can even,
I can imagine the taste of McDonald's
and I can also imagine the taste of Taco Bell
and both of those I haven't had for probably 10 years.
But I can still feel the taste of Taco Bell
being able to go to, yeah, like a bean burrito
and like a soft taco.
Oh, dude, not even like realizing
that it wasn't even like nutrients in there.
You want to talk about if you're bulking
When I was a kid when I was bulking if I had a little bit of money the amount of food I could get go to Taco Bell
Oh, yeah, cuz so I spent 20 bucks there and I'd have
Like a tray of so much food and I'd crush it all. Yeah, yeah, I don't know why I have good issues now
It's weird. It's so strange. I wonder what I came from what happened
I don't have good issues now, it's weird. It's so strange.
I wonder where that came from.
I wonder what happened.
Yeah, weird.
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Our first question is from T Fluid. The ketogenic diet seems to be excellent for mental
function and longevity, but what about performance? As a men's physique athlete, I love the weight loss of keto,
but is it possible to perform and grow without glucose
as a fuel and glycogen depleted muscle?
Sure, sure, sure it is.
But you know what, it's speaking to the fat.
It's not ideal.
Speaking to the fads, I mean, and here's another fuckin' fad,
this keto fad is getting ridiculous.
Keto, fasting, and CBD are annoying me this year.
Yeah.
Well, they're just so hot right now.
You know why?
Because when anything,
anytime something has merit,
that's what they do.
They, they, they, they pour it out.
That's the hard part about it.
Is it does have merit?
I have a lot of good things to say
about all three of those things.
In fact, we've talked about it on the show,
but it's inevitable.
We take some shit like that and then we,
how can we make money?
I'm just curious.
Here's how you know Keto is is gone it's just gone to mainstream
So I started watching the Jersey Shore reunion which is a oh my god if you're a Jersey Shore fan
You will like it. It is a shit show and I was a big fan of the Jersey Shore. They look amazing now
Oh my god, they look amazing Stokes and drugs. Yeah, it's looking, it's looking,
you're looking exactly what you thought.
You know, like that time frame would look like.
Mike, the situation has now changed his name to,
what was his name, the contribution?
I think his name was or something like that.
He changed his name.
The contribution?
I don't remember what it was.
He changed it because he's like not doing drugs anymore,
except now he's fat because all he does is eat.
Anyway, great show.
So, Vinny, you guys remember Vinny on the Jersey Shore?
Vinny's like lean now.
The most normal guy I know.
No, he was, he part his heart on there too.
So he's really lean now.
And the reason why he's lean is he does keto.
So, and now this is...
Oh, great.
You know what PauliD calls him?
What does Nick Davis?
The keto, Guido. It's a keto, Guido. Oh, that was bad. Brilliant. And now this is great. You know what Polly Deez calls him? What is Nick Davis? No the keto grito
But that's how you know keto is God to mainstream is what it's not the Jersey Shore I everywhere I go I hear it now. I hear I hear people and you know
I just I stay out of these conversations. You know when I'm at I was at a barbecue and I'm listening to people
Oh, you ketogenic and oh, no, I'm doing the intermittent fasting diet right now.
And I'm just here, I'm like, oh God.
Oh God.
There we go.
So there's a couple misconceptions here.
First off, glycogen depleted muscles.
You do deplete your body of glycogen,
but they've actually found that muscles actually
hold onto a decent amount of glycogen,
even when you're in keto.
They will.
And you actually, by going keto,
you train the body to hold on to more.
One of the things that was really difficult for me
when I was competing early on
was keeping my muscle belly filled up
because I was shuttling.
I had trained my body,
and my body had got adapted to consuming 400 to 600 grams
of carbohydrates.
Therefore, I would watch my muscles deplete over hours.
It'd be the craziest thing ever.
So if I had...
It would inflate into flight.
And I was constantly trying to find
just the right amount to inflate them up.
So I looked filled out.
When I stopped eating so much carbohydrates,
it became much easier to control that.
So there's some real big benefits to going keto like that
and then reintroducing carbohydrates.
Now, as far as mental function,
first off, longevity, there's a lot of different ways
to eat for long-term health.
Ketogenic diet seems to be good for that for some people.
I think in modern Western lifestyle,
a ketogenic diet seems to be excellent for longevity,
not necessarily because it's the ketogenic diet,
that's great, but more so because people who grow up
in the standard American diet,
when they eliminate all those carbohydrates,
bump up their healthy fats, they see a huge difference.
And I do think that a lot of people just their bodies have
a tough time utilizing sugar. I think that there's a lot more people that have insulin issues
than they realize. So then when they go keto and their mitochondria are now functioning
a little faster, everybody's like, wow, I feel so much better.
There's the biggest problem I have. I have oversaturated. The biggest problem that I have
with the ketogenic diet is that a major, that it's gone mainstream a majority of people are like this like yeah, yeah, no, I'm you know
I'm keto or at least I try to be keto at least four or five days out of the week, you know, and
Very few people have the discipline to follow any sort of diet
for you know
Consistently and strict and the ketogenic diet is arguably one of the hardest diets to follow consistently and
strict.
And it may, I would argue that it could potentially have the most detriment because if you're
already a classic yo-yo dieter or the binge and purge type of mentality when it comes to
eating, somebody who goes keto for two weeks and then falls off and then goes keto and
then falls off, boy,
you can't, with you've been eating ketogenic for a long time, you will change your body's
need now for carbohydrates. It's different.
Well, the other thing, most people I talk to that say they're on a ketogenic diet are basically
doing a carnivore diet. And that's, literally, maybe it's like they're adding butter, they're
coffee, but then they're, I'm like, okay, so what do your meals look, maybe it's like they're adding butter, they're coffee, but then they're, I'm like,
okay, so what do your meals look like?
It's like they're eating steaks, they're eating eggs,
they're eating, like everything they mention
has like protein.
And tons of, and they don't even realize like,
you know, it's like a true ketogenic diet,
like we're trying to get as much just fat,
you know, just fat as we can.
Yeah, it's very challenging.
ketogenic diets definitely low carb,
but not all low carb diets are technically ketogenic diets.
So, now, and when I talk about ketogenic diets,
I'm talking about the medical application,
and what they typically, what they're supposed to look like,
which is mostly fat, moderate protein,
and extremely low carbohydrate.
Now, can you be in ketosis and eat a ton of protein?
You can, I think it makes it a little bit more difficult,
but there's some studies now showing that
might not be as big of a deal as we thought it was,
but I think you're right, just because people take the approach,
and here's the other thing too,
with keto that I get upset with,
is that people think that just eliminating carbs and eating a lot of fat and
not looking at food quality doesn't matter, you know what I mean? Oh, I'm just gonna eat a lot of fat and
they end up eating a lot of fried, you know, fried foods, they're picking lots of vegetable oils.
Yeah, it's like vegans who stop eating certain things and then they also need a ton more process
shit. Vegetables and toast from all this stuff. Or for french fries and potato chips. Right, right.
Yeah, so now here's the thing.
Do you notice a mental, an improvement in mental function
when you go ketogenic?
Most people do.
Not all people do, but most people do.
I get very sharp.
So for me, when I do my 48 hour fast,
yeah, I go, if that's even possible,
he gets very sharp.
Not just like razor. Super sharp. Like think of the most sharp. That's me. It's sharper than that
Yeah, right so so I I do a fast every month after the fast I go hardcore keto for about a week and I always notice
I'm much faster with my words. I can think you know quicker. I've got better verbal
I know so I know it's a big difference.
It was one of the things.
Here's, I mean, I love all of these diets
for people to try out.
Like I think that when I was coaching clients,
I used to teach all of it.
I would tell a client, like,
hey, let's be vegan for a month.
Let's run that, let's see how your body responds
and let's talk about it.
Let's have discussion around,
is this an easy diet for you to follow?
How do you feel?
How are you sleeping?
How's your skin?
How's your sex?
How are these things?
Okay, cool.
Now I want to flip that on his head,
you just did that.
Let's run ketogenic for a while.
Let's talk about how you feel.
And then let me help you connect the dots
to the reason why you're feeling that way.
And it has nothing to do with the name
of this made up fucking diet
You're just readjusting the focus so hey the focus this time
We're gonna focus on just consuming fats and then you know running off of ketone
So your body has a chance to operate in another operating system like what does that even feel like?
Why don't you go through that and challenge yourself or go through an intermittent fast protocol
and refrain from food.
See what that does as far as the social aspects
of food in general,
and what that's gonna do for you moving forward
and then vegan, like you said, adding more vegetables,
that might be the most impactful thing that you got from it.
But yeah, I think that's not where you stay.
Like this dieting thing, like I just,
I have a hard time believing that eating one way
for then on out is gonna do all that well for you.
No, I don't think so.
You know, each viable way of eating has tensed,
you'll find tens to have pluses and minuses for you
So for me when I go keto
Improve mental function consistent energy throughout the day not necessarily more energy, but I have less dips
Throughout the day I tend to get a little leaner, but here's some of the negatives my strength tends to decrease
So I do lose some strength. I do lose some power
I don't get as good a pumps when I work out in the gym My strength tends to decrease. So I do lose some strength, I do lose some power.
I don't get as good a pumps when I work out in the gym.
If you're trying to build muscle and improve athletic
performance, ketogenic diet, except for maybe steady state,
long duration, low intensity type cardio activity,
I don't think keto is great.
Like if I wanted to be as strong as possible
and build as much muscle as possible,
I would throw in some starches, for sure.
I don't need a ton of them,
but I would definitely throw them in.
So that's what's awesome is if you've been
on both sides of this world.
Exactly, you have your tools, right?
Yes, I do this all the time.
I don't follow a structure diet whatsoever,
but there's definitely days you could say,
I mean, just over the weekend,
I ate very much so ketogenic.
I mean, it was pretty. Now was there a reason that you're like, like, I mean, just over the weekend, I ate very much so ketogenic. I mean, it was pretty...
Now, was there a reason that you're like,
okay, this is why I'm applying?
Not really, I knew I wasn't gonna be training that day.
We were at a barbeque where there I knew
there was gonna be a bunch of meat and stuff being served.
I wasn't moving or exercising very much.
Don't need a lot of carbohydrates that day.
I'll just lower my inflammation a little bit.
Right, and I'm like,
if now I can enjoy,
I got to enjoy some like sausage and ribeye and some things that were a little bit. Right, and I'm like, if now I can enjoy, I got to enjoy some like sausage and ribeye
and some things that were a little bit higher
and fat and calories.
And so I'm gonna pull back on the carbohydrates.
And then today's Monday, so guess what?
I'm, Katrina's on her way over here right now
with a nice chicken and rice and sweet potato bowl.
So I'm gonna get shuttled some carbs into me
and in about two hours I'll be lifting.
And I'm gonna use, and my end-use rate is because I is because I've now trained my body to get used to a much lower
Carbohydrate intake man then 50 to 80 grams of carbs. I'm about to consume. I'm gonna feel great
I'm gonna feel great into that work. I'm gonna use all of it and then afterwards
Maybe I'll have another meal that has some carbs and meat and then the rest of the night
I'll probably go all meet here's how I use the ketogenic dye. I use it for
If we're gonna do like a long stretch of podcasts with other people, then
I'll typically go keto because it keeps me sharper on the podcast.
If I know we're gonna do something very physical or if I want to appear more muscular, then
I'll throw in some more carbohydrates and get a little bit more.
Love that strategy.
More pumped up.
If my gut is off, then I tend to go more ketogenic because it's for fasts. Or fasts. Yes. Go start. Or fasting. Or fasting. Or fasting. If I'm not very
active and I'm at home and we're just relaxing, that's when I may go more vegan-ish, where
I'm not having any animal proteins at all. It's mostly vegetables and, you know, vegetable
fats or the good ones that cook in it all the way all the way. I like to go elvis.
Next question is from Miranda Odell.
Difference in weighted glute bridges
or weighted hip thrusts in developing
all three parts of the glutes.
So a glute bridge and a hip thrust are the same thing.
That's what I was like with the difference.
So I think, and I'll try and address this
a couple different ways.
So one, I think that I know Doug had change in the wording around because I don't think
he understood the question.
But I think she was one trying to ask us the three parts of the glutes, sort of like the
different parts of the glute.
And then I also think wondering, what is the difference between all these glute exercises?
Couple points I want to make.
One, I see this a lot with the band distraction now
and ever since Brett Contreras and the hip thrust,
it's just, I see him in the gym like crazy
and everybody's thrusting away.
I'm super pro that one.
I see somebody using the thrust with some weight
because I think that's great.
I think it's a great way to build some strength
and I think it's a great way to build the glutes.
But really targeting different parts of your glute,
the bridge and the thrust are going to be pretty much the same
unless you start to manipulate your position of your feet.
So if you start to really externally rotate your feet,
you're going to see your glute me.
And really, that's just because you're
rotating the femur out and then having to keep
that out while you're also thrusting and so you can target more of different parts of your glutes.
But I also think that I see a lot of these band distractions and kickbacks and donkeys and all
these things and girls are pumping reps out like crazy or the other one that drives me fucking
crazy is the weighted or assisted pull up machine.
And the girls push it down and they're pushing it, pushing it down with their leg.
Like, you're a good luck building an ass doing that.
You know, just because you feel your ass look like an ass.
Right.
Good luck.
I mean, if you, just because you feel a burn somewhere because you're working or moving
a muscle, it doesn't necessarily mean that you're going to develop or build
that to be a big strong muscle.
Now, you have three parts of the glutes,
the maximus, which is obviously the big part of the cheek
that's like the lower part of it,
you have the medius, which is up at the top,
and then the minimus, which is kind of near the sides.
And those work with what's called the hip abduction.
So legs come apart, you're gonna get a lot of activation
in the minimus and in medias.
And the maximus is the one that kicks the leg back
or kicks it down.
Bridges, I just, by the way, for the first time in my life,
have incorporated weighted hip thrusts into my routine.
I've done them before, but it's now actually
a part of my routine.
Oh, really?
Uh-huh.
And it is a skill, like any other exercise.
So because I've never done it before,
I'm starting real light.
I haven't gone over like 200 pounds yet.
I've only done it twice.
And it definitely hits the glutes differently
than squats or deadlifts.
And I'll let you guys know what kind of carryover I get.
Now, I'm assuming I'm gonna get a lot of carryover
because it's a skill that I've never focused on before.
And although I'm using a weight that right now,
I feel like it's enough for me,
because I'm trying to practice it.
I can tell that I can get a lot stronger.
I feel like I'll be able to get up to 300 pounds or more
on doing this and I'll let you guys know what happens.
But you definitely feel a different part,
not a different part of the glistens.
It's just isolated.
Well, here's what it is.
It's isolated.
When you look at the way gravity is pulling down on the weight
and the muscle that's directly underneath it
when you're in these thrusting, right there.
It's still a compound movement
because it's still using the knees a little bit.
It's still a compound.
It's very weak on all the other muscles.
Yeah, it's, in my opinion, it's one of the closest thing
to isolating the glutes with a strong lift,
if that makes sense.
Sure, right.
Like to isolate the glutes,
like you're positioned from like a bilateral type
of the movement versus,
because for me, I immediately think to go
into unilateral movements like a Bulgarian
split squad or something like that to really help enhance the glutes.
Well here's where you get more or different out of the hip thrust.
The resistance is very high at the top of the movement when your glutes are fully contracted.
You don't get that with any other heavy compound
glute movement.
So not necessarily that it's superior,
because I think it's changing the strength curve.
It's yeah, so like when you do a barbell squat,
most of the tension on your bottom.
The bottom.
So it's in that stretch position.
With the bridge, it's a lot of it's at the very top.
Which actually speaks to the point that we talked about
with Pukolsky, that I think is really unique in it, right?
So if you are a female who is trying to,
it could be a male too, so male or female
who's trying to develop your glutes,
I think there is a lot of value in the glute bridge.
If you're somebody who's not, if you're a guy
and you think your glutes are fine
and you're not really focused on them,
I think it's a waste of time.
I don't think it's a, and I know Brett Contreras would probably argue with me all day long
about that, but if you're a guy who doesn't care about developing your butt that much,
it's not a staple amount of work that it takes to put all those weights on.
Like I see some of these guys, you know, it's like, you're doing some serious bedroom stuff.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah. We're now seeing you be doing that.
I mean, I don't know.
I'm just, again, I'm always the guy who's trying to do
as little as possible to listen to most of the amount of change.
And I know how long it takes to set that up.
Like to set up for it.
It's a pain in the ass.
Yeah, it's a fucking horde.
It's 20, 30 minutes to set up a hip thrust.
I'm like, dude, I could have done Bulgarian squats,
front squats, back squats, by the time I get fucking
one set up for some heavy ass hip thrust.
And it's like, and on top of that,
I'm not admit, now if I was training a girl,
who, my girl does these, okay?
So when we work out together
and we train, my girl does hip thrust all day long in here.
So I'm not, yeah, I'm not anti-hid thrust.
What's my workout look like today?
One exercise, 15 sets.
Right, hip thrust all day long.
But I think there's, okay, so just so everybody knows,
I just posted this on my InstaStory,
I'll have Jackie make sure she puts the direct link.
We have a free resource page on our website.
One of the resources is an incredible article
that Sal wrote, it's 5,000 words,
so it's very detailed about building an incredible butt.
And probably a lot of the mistakes that people make when trying to do that and some of the
do's and the don'ts.
And so free article.
And it's at our resource page.
You'll hopefully put the link right there.
I just posted in my story the other day.
Obviously, it'll be gone by time this comes up.
But you know, check that page out.
Read up on that.
And we address targeting the different parts
of glutes inside that article.
And for the most part, what we found,
I mean, it's typically, it's in the setup.
It's when there's no communication going
into that part of your body.
And so how to set yourself up properly
to be able to get that communication open and channeled
and how to use that in your workouts
will make a massive difference.
This is where I really love hip thrust. Yeah, I love hip thrust as like some somewhat of a prime.
Right. Priming my glutes. I've always used it that way.
Primate, then go into a squat. Yes.
Because a lot of people just don't have, don't know how to get the glutes activated or when you squat,
your body just goes into default and the default pattern for a lot of people is quad dominant.
So they push out of the quad with their quads.
What a great way to prime the brain.
The brain.
Yeah, feel the butt is to do some hip thrust before and then go into that.
And then another great way to prime it is to, you know, if you want the glute mead, which
I think is one of the most neglected parts of the butt because we just, we don't tend
to externally rotate our feet like that.
Fuck, you want some good shit in here on building the glutes.
When was the last time you sumo deadlifted
or sumo squatted?
Impressor needs out.
Yes, sumo squatted or sumo deadlift.
That ain't in your movement.
And that's an order of operation here at Cossack Squad.
To get under a squat bar and do some sumo squats
or get a deadlift bar and do sumo deadlifts.
So much quicker and easier to do that
and the benefits that you get from that movement
in comparison to the hip thrust,
pretty damn fucking close, man,
especially if you're not used to doing that.
If you don't, if you always conventional deadlift
or you always conventional squat,
do some sumo style with the feet externally rotated and opening the knees out.
Oh man.
Well, the reason why I put it in my routine now is Robert Obers was talking about him last
time we were hanging out with him.
And he uses him.
Yeah, he said that was a great exercise.
So you know, you hear from someone like that who competes at such a high level.
I think he just, I know I think they just, he just completed right the the world's strongest
man competition. Yeah. I believe he got like, like, do you get
nine, thir, seven, thir, something like that? He's, I mean, he's one of the 10 top 10 strongest
men or strongest strong man competitors. What is, what exactly did he say? Why he does it?
Did he tell you why? I don't remember him. I don't remember why. I know he made it. He
made it a point to talk about those zircher squats, which is obvious. Why, why they would
do those.
So I'll let you guys know what the carryovers,
because I've never-
I've never personally used it myself,
like as a inner routine on a consistent basis for me.
I've done it with other clients.
So if I see carryover to my squats or to my deadlifts,
then I'm gonna keep using them.
But I definitely felt different in that movement, because I've gonna keep using them. But I definitely felt different in that movement
because I've never really done it.
I like him for building glutes.
I'm playing Devils Advocate here
with just saying that talking the shit about it
because I think it's, I think it's typed again,
like anything else you understand.
We say, now I see it all over the place
and that's what everybody's doing.
It's like, well, okay, if you're using it,
just wait till like dude start comparing PRs.
That's happening.
It's happening right now.
I was gonna answer the story, I was gonna talk shit.
I saw Matt Ogis or Ogis or Ogis,
I can't even spell his last name, I don't know how he says it,
but he was doing it, they've been going back and forth with it
and we don't have a relationship yet,
so I didn't wanna throw a jab and then him take it the wrong way.
Like I'm really picking on him, it's like,
so I didn't do any, I actually,
I asked Tag, no one cares. Well's it was actually gonna be something like that
I was just like not very cool, you know, whatever
No bragging right. Yeah, not very cool, dude, so but whatever, you know, I think it's it's it's a tool like anything else
If you're a grappler that's an exercise for sure that you can see some big benefit especially if you're in a
Thirsty someone off you.
Well, bridging is a staple movement in all grappling.
Yeah.
All grappling, especially wrestling because you don't want to get pinned.
Oh, that's a good point.
I can see a lot of that.
We practiced a lot of bridging.
When I did jujitsu, we did a lot of bridging.
Not with weight, but we would bridge and practice rolling over our shoulder and bridging
with opponents on you because you never want to be flat on your back in your jiz you want to be able to move your hips out to
the side and then I'm pretty like a board and with wrestling same thing so there's a very
functional movement for grappling sports. I've seen some you know literature showing that
it can contribute to sprint speed and all that stuff but in comparison to squats I don't
know if there's really a comparison but I'll let you guys know if I see some carryover so
far so good so far I've done it twice and I think I like it. Do you feel stupid doing it though? No, it's in my garage
So nobody can see okay. Yeah, how's the setup? How's the setup being the edge?
Yeah, I put my bench up against the wall. I got to get into the barbell roll it up to my body lift it up hurts on your hair hurts on your
Fucking pal that's the thing that I had that's I'm gonna get the noodle doesn't know we have a noodle here
We do we have two of them so you take one home. Yeah, make sure you make sure you make sure you find
I think one is up you gotta go get that because I felt the latter last time
It's up on the you know the bathtub thing that we did yeah the other one is up there
Oh, man, so leave one here cuz my girl uses the one here
So don't steal that one for your girl home garage because I know she wants order a noodle
No, we have you didn't get up on the ladder and just get the other one. I don't like it up there
We have a new ladder. You see what happens. Oh, that's right. We have a taller ladder now. That would have helped. Doug. Next question is from Sagan Sanders.
I turned 29 yesterday. If each of you had one thing to say about turning 30, what would
it be? Do you guys remember your 30th? Say goodbye to it.
What did you guys do for your 30th?
Oh, I don't remember what I did.
Oh, I had a family over and stuff.
Wasn't that big of a deal?
Yeah, this is an interesting question.
I feel like the 30s is like the 20s war back in the day.
You know what I mean?
Like a long time ago, 30 was like,
you should have a house, you have a family.
I'm like, now it's like when you turn 30, then you start should have a house. You have a gambling. Yeah, established.
Now it's like when you turn 30,
then you start thinking about those things.
Not that you're there, but it's almost like,
oh, no, I gotta start thinking about.
So I don't know what I would say to somebody
turning 30 other than, you know, here's something I could say.
The dirty journey.
Start taking your, start looking at taking investments seriously.
That would be a good one.
If you start now and you get smart about investing your money,
you don't need a lot of money, by the way.
But figure out how to invest your money,
invest a little bit of your paycheck every single month
that you get paid.
And you do that at 30.
By the time you're 50, you should be pretty well off
if you're doing pretty well.
I think the big realization that I had when I turned 30 was,
and I think we would all say this about each other
that we're all pretty self-aware guys, right?
I think at turn in 30, I think I was really just truly
figuring out who I was.
And I think you gotta be really open-minded,
because if you would have told me at 27,
I would have argued with you, right?
At 27, I would have been like,
ah, no, what I fucking want.
I know what I need.
I think you think you know what you want and need
in your 20s, but I really think
that's when you're figuring all that out.
It's piecing together like,
what really motivates me, what really makes me happy,
what am I looking for in a life partner,
what are the, what why, what is my purpose behind all this? And if I did achieve with these things that I think I want so bad,
would it fulfill me the way I think it so a lot of that's happening. And I think in my
in my, for me, in my 20s and then in my 30s, I think I've become, I'm the most comfortable
in my own skin at 30 than I was in my 20s. Yeah, I felt like I could take everything on, you know,
through my 20s.
Like it was just this ability.
I just motor through everything and everything was just
going to work out.
And I think once I got to 30, that's where like you,
yeah, you have this like moment where you sort of reassess
how everything has been working for you.
And you reflect a lot, I think,
once you get to 30 where it's like,
you might start seeing some signs of,
I have new aches, pains,
or some of the things I've been doing forever,
just really aren't working for me,
or maybe I'm not on that career path,
I thought I was gonna be,
or what am I actually gonna do
with this degree or it's like,
you almost have this moment where you have to figure things out
like specifically how to do the next leg.
You know what pissed me off that the pain thing that you said
because that was something that really stung me.
That I remember people telling me
when I was like in my mid 20s as a trainer
and they'd be like, oh, wait till you hit your 30s,
you're gonna feel this and that.
And I remember like having this chip on my shoulder
all through my 20s being like, fuck that.
I'm a fitness guy, I'm a trainer, I stand shape.
Like I know the body.
It's not gonna affect me.
No, I'm not.
I can defy the laws of life.
I used to, well, I used to tell people,
I'm like, you're only as old as you feel
because of how you take care of yourself.
And I plan to take care of that though.
There is.
And that's why I really believe
that I'm gonna bounce back like he used to.
Right. That's one.
But I do know being in my 30s now
and seeing what it is is you start to pick up these habits
or you start to notice things that you did.
And on this note, I'm really, really interested to see what our kids look like in the next
five to 10 years, just five to 10 years with this iPhone generation.
Because I just noticed, just recently I went through the whole testosterone thing, injuring
myself.
So in the last probably five, six years,
that was probably the longest stint
that I had kind of not used the gym.
I was not, I wasn't working out for about three months there.
And I tell you what, in three months time,
and continuing doing my daily stuff,
which what we have to do for work,
which is sitting on a computer and a phone every now and then,
I have noticed my forward head, like excessively come forward in three months time.
And I'm aware, like I noticed that shit, and I'm trying to do little things to combat it.
So I'm asking myself, whoa, what are these kids that are 12, 15 years old?
They're all going to look like Brian Shroomt.
I'm telling you remember, I fucking said this on this show right now, this is gonna be a very hot topic
in five to 10 years.
Oh, back pain is, they're already,
statistics sort of coming out showing that kids are having
neck and back pain at unprecedented levels.
From all that.
And so I think that in 30, you really start to kind of
see all this, especially if you ended up getting a
desk job or you're in a car a lot or you fly in a plane a lot,
you start to notice these things that you've been forced to do in this job that you're doing now
for the last five, 10, 15 years and in 30s come around and it starts to let you know that it's there.
And that's really the getting what people say, oh, you're getting older. Well, it's not an older
thing. It's that, hey, for now the last 10 years, I've been huddled over a computer. You know, I wasn't
doing that. As a kid, I was spending huddled over a computer. You know, I wasn't doing that.
As a kid, I was spending more time swimming in a pool and playing basketball outside,
where your priorities have shifted, and because your priorities have shifted,
there's always a cause and effect, right, with something like this.
And that's the effect that I'm getting from being at a desk and a phone all day.
I've been watching my cousins because I have younger, there's a lot of male cousins in my family.
There's a lot of us.
And there's my generation, and we're all in our late 30s.
And then there's this second generation
who's now in their early 30s.
So they're either 30 or 31 or 32.
And I'm watching all these guys,
and they're great guys, great kids,
everybody has good families or whatever.
But it's funny when I see how they date now.
It's very different.
In their 20s, it was all about just sleeping with girls,
going out, parting, meeting as many as people as I can.
Now they're doing that way less.
And when we talk about it, they're like,
you know, I don't really care about doing all that.
I want to meet someone really cool or whatever.
And you can see the guys now are starting to like,
they wanna meet someone that's gonna give,
not necessarily like to get married,
but just they want more out of relationship.
Because how accessible it is.
Yeah.
It's because how much I think.
The market has changed.
Yeah, and also, here's the other thing I think
that I had a conversation with them about this.
I said, because who is it?
It was my cousin, he was talking about, he's like, man,
he goes, when I go out now, he goes, I get hit on
by girls a lot. He goes, I used to never happen to me.
And I looked at him like, it's your,
your little older now, you look a little more seasoned.
Like guys don't really get attracted to like,
they're 30s.
And I think maybe that's why they're all
kind of looking for a little bit more
because maybe it's easier for them.
I don't know. I think it's more accessible
because of the tools that we have. That too, it's possible. I mean, it's easier for them. I don't know. I think it's more accessible because of the tools that we have.
That too, it's possible.
I mean, it's just, now you could be a 25 year old
and drop into a city, you know zero about, no nobody.
What's on Tinder?
Turn on, yeah, bumble, tender, all the other.
You're giving it some ass.
Well, not even if you're just kidding, yeah.
Like to meet other people and go on a date.
Like it was, I mean, think about that.
Think about 20 years ago dropping dropping into a city you've never
Austin, we drop into Austin, we're there to party for a week.
You got to go out by yourself.
Yeah, you got to go out and you got to go.
And you've got to figure out where all the places are.
Then you go there, then you talk to 10 people to find out.
Most of them are just there to dance their girls.
They have there to have men at home that I'm in detention.
You know what I'm saying?
You strike out all night.
That could easily be a night where now with these apps,
not only can I figure out where all the single women are,
but I can find the ones that match my personality.
Like, oh, she's into the things I am,
I can be there before you go out.
Yeah, that's crazy.
No more adventure in it.
It's easy.
It's like if you were fishing,
and it's the difference between going out into the ocean,
and fishing besides going in a pond
that they stung to like a trout farm.
Yeah, yeah, a trout farm where you can see the fish swimming
around everywhere.
It's about a 10 by 10 lazy fuckers.
Right, a fish in the trout farm.
How lame would that be after a while?
After a while you cast your pole and you know
you're gonna catch a fish every goddamn time.
It's not fun anymore.
I want that big mouthbass.
Next up, Sarah's Alexander.
What would be the best way to back out of endurance training
without gaining a lot of weight?
This is a problem a lot of people have
when they go real hard and consistent
with endurance type training.
And then they back out of it.
A lot of them gain a lot of weight.
I think it's really hard if you were like
ultra marathon runner or runner like crazy five,
six, seven days a week and you just back off the running and that's it.
But if you replace it, I've done this many, many times with clients that are pure runners.
If you can get them to switch their mindset to lifting weights and like lifting heavy
weights and training, shit.
All the extra calories that you're gonna be consuming
because obviously if you were running
and burning a lot of manual calories before,
that you no longer can technically just stop that running
and then still consume that without putting body fat on it.
That's the problem is a lot of people will stop
and then they'll eat the same amount.
Right, which you can't.
Which you can't, unless you were putting, if you were falling, if you were a fault, like you were, if you went like from somebody
who never really lifted weights consistently, but you ran like crazy and then you stopped
running and you switched to like a MAPS and a baller type of program.
I think you could eat almost the same and be okay.
I really do.
That'd be, that'd be a good, you know, to play it safe.
I would agree with you, Adam, but to play it safe, I would tell someone, if you're backing
off your endurance, start lifting weights, heavy traditional type resistance training, like
a MAP centabolic, cut your calories a little bit, and mostly from the carbs, just cut the
carbs down.
You don't need as much glycogen because you're not running anymore.
And then slowly let your appetite tell you how much you need to eat as you're transitioning
more to resistance training.
It's usually how I do it with clients that have done that.
I've done this with clients because they had to.
Like I've had clients come and see me and I'm like,
okay, we need to back off the endurance training
because you're doing way too much.
We want to speed up your metabolism,
your body starting to adapt in a bad way.
Hormones are off forever.
You're doing too much running, you're running 30 miles a week.
Let's bring that down to 15 to start with,
and then throw in some resistance training,
then eventually I bring them down
to like, you know, seven miles a week or something like that.
So they can still get some running,
but they're not doing the ridiculous amount.
Well, that's where it's probably the hardest is
if you have somebody who's already weight training
and they're also endurance running on top of that.
Like now you have a little bit more of a challenge
to keep them from not gaining weight
when they reduce all that running. If you're running five miles a day plus and then in addition
that I already got you weight training three, four times a week like that, that person right there
I had to scale about their calories. But a lot of, I mean, I've also taken, you know, runners that
have don't lift weights at all and switch them straight over to lifting and they actually end up
getting to eat more. They end up...
I've seen that before.
Yeah, because they just, they start packing on the muscle because they haven't lifted any
weight whatsoever and their, their metabolism starts roaring and then they're freaking
out like I don't have some, like super responders.
You know, once actually, because they, yeah, they've avoided resistance training for so long.
It's such a new stimulus.
But yeah, I think you're right about just cutting out, just shave a bit of the calorie
amount off.
Initially, if that's a big concern of yours, for me, just kind of getting them in a different
mindset a lot of times.
I'm not super concerned about a little bit of weight gain in the transition, but if it's like,
you know, like if you're sitting around,
if you're just transitioning cold turkey,
you're gonna gain weight, you know?
You're not remaining active and pursuing,
you know, other stimulus.
So, really?
The psyche of this person is what I'd have to address
with, because I have no, like this person
could be three different mindsets going into this,
and all three of them I'd have to approach differently, right?
I mean, if you have somebody who is, you know,
they run because they're scared to put on weight
or they're like, you know, that's a,
right, that's a, that's a little bit more of a sensitive topic
that we have to talk about as how I would strategically do that.
If the person just loves running and realizes
that it's time for them to back off a little bit.
Because you don't want that to turn to them,
start themselves as a result of, you know,
they used to run it off.
Now I'm just gonna like,
or sometimes those clients are afraid too
of putting muscle on.
I don't wanna be all bulky,
and that's why they run like crazy
because they have this obsession
with this like skinny anorexic look.
And so then, you know, they can be doing,
they can be doing,
cause they can be doing phenomenal, right?
You switch them out from running like that,
and they put three, four pounds on it,
but it's all muscle.
Yeah, and your pumps is a trainer.
You're like, fuck yeah, we're doing great.
They're like, my shirts aren't fitting the same.
I get 20 pounds and you're just like, yeah, whatever.
You look awesome.
Right, so the psyche going into this matters a lot
on what I'm saying to them, but yeah, no, a few.
This is a hard, one of the biggest challenges
I ever had with as a trainer is you'd get,
and this doesn't need necessarily applied,
specifically to endurance athletes,
but I'd get people who were college,
like phenomenal college athletes,
but now they're overweight,
or people who worked out super hard at one point,
and were really fit, and then they stopped working out,
now they're super overweight.
And the problem is, you get used to a certain lifestyle
of eating with all that calorie burn.
That is a tough thing to switch.
You're so skewed at what a normal meal looks like.
I had a female client who, like it was like six
or seven years out of college.
She'd been working, she had a kid,
and she had to lose something like 40 or 50 pounds. But when she was in college, she'd been working, she had a kid, and she had to lose something like 40 or 50 pounds.
But when she was in college, she was a high-level
competitive swimmer.
So when I'm talking to her, and I'm talking
about her nutrition, she's like,
well, I still eat really healthy.
I eat chicken breast and vegetables,
and then she's telling me what she's eating.
And so I started having her weigh her food.
This girl had no idea what a normal portion looked like.
For her, a normal chicken breast was like 12 ounces.
Well, that worked great when she was swimming,
for three hours twice a day.
But I'm like, you can't eat, that's not a normal thing.
I literally went through the same process,
coming from college football,
because so not only did I play,
I would practice in the morning,
I would wait, actually I had weight training in the morning
and then we go to practice, then we play basketball
and then we'd review films and whatever.
So I'm just like, oh, I'd work as a bartender.
So I was like always on my feet and just like go,
go, go, go, go, go.
And then I was done.
And I was eating the same way I was eating, you know, just whatever.
Didn't give a fuck.
It's so hard for you to figure out.
I'm ready.
Yeah. And then you can, you just realize like, oh my God.
Like, wow, what's happening?
I have to completely adjust my entire way of looking at food and now prioritizing, like moving.
Like that was just something that I did.
So, yeah, yeah.
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