Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 784: Increasing Calories without Gaining Fat, Travel Training Tips, What to do When Your Workouts Stop Producing Results & MORE

Episode Date: June 2, 2018

In this episode of Quah, sponsored by Organifi (organifi.com, code "mindpump" for 20% off), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about how to structure training during periods of heavy travel, what to do when diet and workouts stop producing results, how to begin reintroducing calories after prolonged restriction without the fear of gaining too much fat and the best tips and tricks to retain clients. Is Adam’s tummy back on track? Organifi probiotics assisting with the issue. (7:35) ‘Reprogrammed’ stem cells approved to mend human hearts for the first time. Technology is brilliant! (13:10) Meeting the significant other’s family for the first time. The guys share embarrassing stories. (19:30) Why are people so sensitive? Sal’s post causes some controversy.  (31:10) The guys share their thoughts on the documentary, Take Your Pills. (38:10) Why do girls advance so much quicker than boys when it comes to emotional intelligence? (52:00) #Quah question #1 – How do each of you structure training during periods of heavy travel? (55:44) #Quah question #2 - What to do when diet and workouts stop producing results? (1:06:15) #Quah question #3 - How should one begin reintroducing calories after prolonged restriction without the fear of gaining too much fat? (1:16:04) #Quah question #4 – What are the best tips and tricks to retain clients? (1:23:55) People Mentioned: Dr. Michael Ruscio (@drruscio)  Instagram JP Sears (@awakenwithjp)  Instagram Robert Oberst (@robertoberst)  Instagram Christina Rice | Health Coach (@christinaricewellness)  Instagram Layne Norton, PhD (@biolayne)  Instagram Related Links/Products Mentioned: Organifi ‘Reprogrammed’ stem cells approved to mend human hearts for the first time Four Christmases (2008) – IMDb How To Get Offended - Ultra Spiritual Life episode 52 – YouTube Take Your Pills | Netflix Official Site MAPS Anywhere - Mind Pump MAPS Super Bundle - Mind Pump Metabolic adaptation to weight loss: implications for the athlete Maps prime pro bundle - Mind Pump Also check out Thrive Market! Thrive Market makes purchasing organic, non-GMO affordable. With prices up to 50% off retail, Thrive Market blows away most conventional, non-organic foods. PLUS, they offer a NO RISK way to get started which includes: 1. One FREE month’s membership 2. $20 Off your first three purchases of $49 or more (That’s $60 off total!) 3. Free shipping on orders of $49 or more How can you go wrong with this offer? To take advantage of this offer go to www.thrivemarket.com/mindpump You insure your car but do you insure YOU? If you don’t, and you are the primary breadwinner, you will likely leave your loved ones facing hardship and struggle if you die (harsh reality). Perhaps you think life insurance is expensive, but if you are fit and healthy, you can qualify for approved rates that are truly inexpensive and affordable. To find out if you qualify for the best rates in the industry, go get a quote at www.HealthIQ.com/mindpump Would you like to be coached by Sal, Adam & Justin? You can get 30 days of virtual coaching from them for FREE at www.mindpumpmedia.com. Get our newest program, MAPS HIIT, an expertly programmed and phased High Intensity Interval Training program designed to maximize fat burn and improve conditioning. Get it at www.mindpumpmedia.com! Get MAPS Prime, MAPS Anywhere, MAPS Anabolic, MAPS Performance, MAPS Aesthetic, the Butt Builder Blueprint, the Sexy Athlete Mod AND KB4A (The MAPS Super Bundle) packaged together at a substantial DISCOUNT at www.mindpumpmedia.com. Make EVERY workout better with MAPS Prime, the only pre-workout you need… it is now available at mindpumpmedia.com Have Sal, Adam & Justin personally train you via video instruction on our YouTube channel, Mind Pump TV. Be sure to Subscribe for updates. Get your Kimera Koffee at www.kimerakoffee.com, code "mindpump" for 10% off! Get Organifi, certified organic greens, protein, probiotics, etc at www.organifi.com Use the code “mindpump” for 20% off. Go to foursigmatic.com/mindpump and use the discount code “mindpump” for 15% off of your first order of health & energy boosting mushroom products. Add to the incredible brain enhancing effect of Kimera Koffee with www.brain.fm/mindpump 10 Free sessions! Music for the brain for incredible focus, sleep and naps! Also includes 20% if you purchase! Please subscribe, rate and review this show! Each week our favorite reviewers are announced on the show and sent Mind Pump T-shirts! Have questions for Mind Pump? Each Monday on Instagram (@mindpumpmedia) look for the QUAH post and input your question there. (Sal, Adam & Justin will answer as many questions as they can)

If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. Mind, hop, mind, hop, with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. In this episode of Mind, of Mind, Palm, for the first 51 minutes, we do our introductory conversation. Make sure you tell people Justin will be here for the next episode. He's in the episode. Right, this is it. He said to leave, this is Doug.

Before we did the intro. Doug swallowed a tennis ball. A ball, yes. A ball. So he had to leave now. I don't know, what's up with the dogs and the emergency, right? I don't know, man.

And, yes. Rough run for the puppies. Miniacs, so easy. We start off by talking about Adam's tummy. Right, that's, we, it's Sal's tummy, my stomach. And organify probiotics. Adam actually has been using the probiotics to help heal his little belly,

because he got sick there for a second. Orally. If you go to organifyshop.com enter the code MindPump, you'll get an exclusive MindPump discount. We talk about Japan's recro, program stem cell heart repair. This is crazy.

Insane, you can actually heal your heart with Japan's new technique, I guess. Some Marvel shit going on. We do it at the time. I choked out my sister's boyfriend and other macho moves. Did he deserve it? No. We do it with arm wrestling and Sicily, that was fun.

The power of being offended. Oh boy, that sounds mean, starting to rub people the wrong way. That's right. And then we talk about the documentary, take your pills and kids and drugs. We're talking about the legal drugs, you know, the ones that your government approved that are still terrible for you. Then we get to the questions. The first question was, how do each of us structure our training during periods of a heavy travel. So when we travel a lot, how do we like to work out? We actually mentioned, find out if Justin just eats pizza and doesn't work out.

We talk about maps anywhere in that particular part of the episode. Oh, and by the way, maps anywhere 50% off this month more. I'll talk more about that in just a second. The next question was, are there some things to try when you feel like your body isn't even progressing anymore, even though you've been doing the same stuff that always seems to work? What do you do?

It used to work. Now it's not working. Do the same stuff. How do I get my body to move forward? The next question was, how should you reintroduce calories in food after prolonged restriction? So, in other words, if you've been dieting for a long time, you've got your goal, body, weight, your lean, now you want to start eating more again.

You just eat a lot all at once, like a lot of competitors do, or should you do it slowly in a reverse dieting type of way. We talk about some new science and that portion of this episode. And finally, what are some tips that we can give to help trainers retain clients? You know, getting clients is one thing. Keeping them is another. If you're really good, you do both really, really well. Also, this month, as you heard me say earlier in the Centro, maps anywhere, half off. me say earlier in this intro, maps anywhere half off. I'm excited about this one. This is, I think we talked about this multiple times in the show

over the last year or two, that it's probably the most underrated program that we have. And we got a lot of stuff going on. We got a new program that's coming out. We got all kinds of stuff that we just came off of a great Super Bundle special. It's been a while since we've even addressed or talked about anywhere.

I think this is a cool thing for people, even if you're not somebody who is working out of hotel rooms or working out at home all the time, it's a great one to have in your guys' arsenal for sure. Absolutely, the workouts themselves require minimal equipment like a band and a stick or your body weight. It's extremely effective programming. Of course, it can be done anywhere.

And for the entire month of June, it's half off, 50% off. You can get this program or check out our other maps programs at mindpumpmedia.com. So Doug, here's us at a higher level than we hear ourselves. And so how we're always like, hey Doug, could you turn up a little bit? That's just what's in your head folks.

My ears are like blasting all the time. Yeah, so it's not changing how loud he hears it. It's only changing how loud I hear it. So you can go louder or softer depending on what you want. And it's good for guests. Have you noticed some of our guests go like this? Yeah, they don't like it. Yeah, some of our guests are like.

Oh, perfect for the guests, because now they have the person. Yeah, yes, even right now it's a little bit more. How much are those, Doug? 25 bucks. You know you got a love technology. I know. You got a love you know much that would have cost in 1975.

So just wrapped it. 10 million dollars. At least. That that was the same technology that took the fucking space shuttle to the moon. Yeah, 25 bucks. It is. You know what I'm saying?

I don't think the space shuttle went to the moon. Oh, yeah. Oh, it didn't. That's right. It was just a rocket You're not recording are you? He's gonna edit that out so it sounds like I said that Actually, the space show is not what went to the moon. See that part. Yeah Dude, I got the I got the probably the weirdest

This is a good game. Let's name the, I got the probably the weirdest, this is a good game. Let's name the weirdest feedback or the most unexpected, like wrong feedback. Sometimes I get feedback from fans and I'm just like, no, that's not the case. Oh, would you take what? Like, in regards to the show, what you said?

Some dude sends me a DM and he's like, he's like, yeah, you guys encourage just an ot a lot and now Adam barely ever talks and like what When did that what universal you for what did he say he's like you guys are always telling Justin to talk more and I and you know He was really quiet at first and now he's talking a lot more in the show But now Adam barely ever talks like That's actually totally wrong I can't not accurate. Yeah, I can't yeah, you know what that probably I can't even like I can't even That's here that like what do you talk?

I mean, he's probably a massive Adam fan that's I can't get enough. Who is it? I like the guy already all right He said that I was like. Just not enough atoms. Like, there's cowbell. It's gonna be awesome. I'm not getting enough atoms. But for me, like, this is just... There's feedback, there needs to be some truth in it. There's no truth in it.

There's still people that can, there's still people that confuse us. Like, people that are still coming on that. Oh my God, that might be it. Yeah, no, there's still people, like they don't follow us on IG, listen to show, or maybe they just now started following, I've had people start following me and think

that we're one of the other guys. I feel like we should go around right now, like, I'm Justin. There's Justin's voice. Roll call. Yeah, that's that. This is South. South.

Yeah. Yeah, I'm sad. Yeah. I don't have a good impression of you. Yeah, I've been trying to work on it. It's hard to do me. Yeah. Who's voice got confused the most? I think you. I've been trying to work on it. It's hard to do me. Yeah. People, who's voice got confused the most?

I think you and I got confused the most, Adam. What's your point of view? Mine was yours and you're, yeah, cause I, so here's a funny, at least. This speaks so differently. We sound completely different. I listen to what you talk about. I like it.

That would sound weird coming out of my face. What would you do, Justin? If you first met me and I was talking like him. Oh, wow. Hey, Justin. Hey, how fun. Oh, wow. I tripped out. Hey, Justin! Hey, how fun! Hey, how fun would that be?

One episode, we should try our best. You have to sound like me the whole episode, and I have to sound just like you. I feel like everybody get their feelings at some point. It was. I know, if you'd like, just try to like, yeah, it sound like I'll be sad the whole episode.

No, you already do it all the time. I know, because I'm gonna be out of it. I'm out of it. Yeah, I have to figure that one out. Mine's easy. I'll work on that. Mine, I have to figure that one out. Mine's easy. I'll work on that. Mine's super easy. Dude, how's your smiling?

How's your tummy? It's coming together. This is actually the first day that I haven't been chewed on probiotics, like crazy. So you were taking the probiotics many times a day? Yeah, our organ, you know what? I've actually been meaning to ask you, so I'm actually glad you asked me that.

It felt like it was the right thing for me to do. I should have ran it by you. Yeah. So after I kind of, my protocol was initially, like I couldn't hold anything down, and so charcoal and soup was kind of like the protocol for what I was doing. And then once I was able to eat like solid foods,

I still, my stomach was still kind of like gurgling in this net, so I was like, you know what, maybe I'll start using the organized probiotic with all my meals. And I'm only eating two, three times a day, right? So I'm not like over, oh yeah, that's plenty. No, that's actually good. When you have a severe, and I don't mean gut issue

in the sense of inflammatory, irritable bowel syndrome type gut issues, because in that case, then this advice may apply, may not apply. I'm talking about like if you have like a stomach virus, like you get the neurovirus, or you get food poisoning, or when you're on antibiotics, then taking high doses of probiotics has been shown to be beneficial. But there's an individual, of course, I'm doing the right thing here. Yeah. Okay. Now do you, is there a, can I overdo it? Of course. Okay. Yeah. Of course. So you may have a bad reaction to taking too many, but the dose and the organify, if I'm not mistaken, is 25 billion. Maybe Doug, you

can look that up to real small number. I think it's 20 notes. It think it's 25 or 50 billion. So let's double check. But I take on an almost regular basis, 100 billion, once a day, anyway. Okay, so I'm nowhere near that. No, I'm nowhere near that. 25 is probably a good place to start for most people. And it's got the Bafiddo bacterium and the acidophilus bacterium in there, which are the ones that have shown to have positive effects in the gut.

It's funny, I was talking to Rusio the other day about this. And there's a lot of confusion over what the probiotics actually do in the gut. So a lot of us think, and I even thought this initially was that, it's 50 billion. It's 50 billion, okay. What I initially what I thought was that you take these beneficial bacteria and then they populate your gut and

Ruscio said no, that's not how this works. No, he says they don't populate your gut What probably happens is they as they go through the gut they release or they have an antibiotic and natural antibiotic effect, so it neutralizes the other bacteria in the gut or helps prevent them from overgrowing or causing dysbiosis. And he thinks that, and he says that happens when they're alive, but it also happens when they're dead because he said there's studies that show that,

even if you swallow dead probiotics, people still get a benefit. It just goes to show you how little we know about all of this stuff. Wow. It's fucking weird. I can tell though I feel better. I'm pretty much the way my stomach does when I have one. And you are the one that really,

I was never somebody who would even take a probiotic pill before. But you know, I thought, you know, because I don't have gut issues. I don't have major gut issues. But I definitely get upset stomach sometimes or get the flu or whatever the fuck it was like food poisoning, whatever it was that I just had. And so there's been times where I'm just like,

oh, my stomach's not easy, I know I need to eat. And then when I eat with that, it does make me feel 10 times better, man. Food poisoning is the worst, because it's the close, it's like you feel like you're literally gonna die. Yeah, you know, when you're sitting there and you're throwing up and there's nothing,

and you just, you make that sound. What I'm saying, it's so, I hate that. Because I've had it enough times and I know how awful it is if you have nothing to throw up, like what I do is when I start getting uneasy, what I was doing when I was throwing up is like, I would chug water so I would have something to throw up. Really?

Oh yeah, so like if I, so what I, because I couldn't hold anything down, I couldn't hold P.O.L.I. I couldn't hold water, couldn't hold anything down during the window when I really started throwing up. But after you've thrown up about two or three times in a row, you got most of everything out that you had.

And so what I've learned is in the past, if I didn't drink anything, which would suck, because if I drank just a little bit of water, I'd have to throw up. I would just not do anything. And then you start dry heaving, and that's just painful, and that's the worst. So now what I was doing was,

before I went to the restroom, and I would just like, right before I just pound as much water until it's just ready to come right out, but at least throwing up water is better than like throwing up. Oh man, I don't know if I agree with that. Yeah. Is there any way to throw up without waking up the whole house?

Yeah. Every time I can't, I can't control that. You know, like Courtney gets up, oh my God, what's happening? You know, I don't know if that happens to you guys, but it's just like the loudest, like most obnoxious. My buddy, I'm a loud person. My buddy calls it a calling dinosaurs.

Because that's what it sounds like. No! No! No! And then I get like the like, petike eyes that they call it where it's like, you almost like bruise these little like. The blood vessels?

Blood vessels, you have to pop out. Yeah, I get that every single time. It's like you're doing a max squat. Like you're straining that horse. Yes. I can't do it any other way. Dude, my abs, when I was in Thailand and I got, because that's the worst I ever had. I've never had it like in Thailand,

where I was literally started to get slightly hallucinatory. I was literally in bed, started to see things a little bit differently, because I had a fever. But when I was, I got sore, my abs got sore the following, like yeah, the next day I was like, wow. If I have to throw up again,

it's gonna hurt even more. That's a workout. Because my abs are in so much pain. Dude, so on that science tip, Yeah, the next day I was like, wow, if I have to throw up again, it's gonna hurt even more. That's right, it's gonna hurt out. Because my abs are in so much pain. Dude, so on that science tip, I just got an article I wanna share with you guys, which is freaking rad. Let me pull it up real quick.

In Japan, they've approved now as part of a pilot study. They have permission to treat people who have heart disease with cells that are produced by revolutionary reprogramming techniques. So what they do is they take, they get cells from body tissues like skin and blood and they revert them to an embryonic like state. And then which from which they can turn into other cell types. And what they'll do is they'll make these sheets of tissue that they develop from these stem cells, if you will.

And they'll put them on damaged hearts, and then the hearts seem to be healing faster. Wow. What? How fucking close? This is like a gel that kind of turns into the these. I don't know. It's pretty awesome.

And now it's like some Wolverine shit to me there. It does, right? So it's like what they think is that the slather and that over my whole body. So the cells don't integrate into the heart tissue. So at first when they first did this, like, oh shit, the cells themselves are like meshing themselves in.

Know what they think that's happening is that they're releasing growth factors that then help your body regenerate itself. But do think of the applications of this. You know, oh, there it is, Doug just pulled it up. Think about how crazy that is, right? If you have like, like, damaged liver, damaged kidney, whatever, if they could like create these sheets

of stem cells, slap them on, and then your body starts to rebuild itself, dude, that'll be a whole new reprogram. What do you think will happen? What do you think will happen if we reach a point where If you have a problem with one of your organs that you could just go to the doctor and they'll just you know do something to fix it right away Do you think people just say fuck it and do whatever they want well that's Yeah, I do believe that I really I believe that like you know

We we see what's happening with and we talk about this all time with disease and the food and everything that I Feel like it's a race right now on like do we do we kill ourselves or we do a put we push the limit so bad we're about to freaking kill ourselves off that we have to start coming back the other way nutritionally or the science evolve fast enough to where you can do question to do all that bullshit. I see all the advancements of that but then I've also been paying attention to comic books. I know where this goes. You've been paying attention to comic books. You're gonna grow a tail. Yeah, and like you're gonna grow some fucked up scales.

You know, there's gonna be side effects. Dude, when this, so here's what- I'm just gonna shit that. So what you know what technology does is it makes things less, we were just talking about this earlier, you know, I think it's at the beginning's podcast where we have this new device that helps us control the volume of our mics and our ears to ourselves, or whatever.

Stuff like that would have been so expensive like 10 years ago, right? Like all the cameras and stuff we have here to produce our YouTube videos, 15 years ago would have been, you know, half a million dollars with equipment today. It's like on our phone, it's like that. It's like that, right?

And what it was back then. Yeah, so all this kind of technology, at some point, it's gonna be so decentralized that people will have the means, if they're smart enough, to kind of do it themselves. You know there's gonna be fucking people are gonna be experimenting on themselves. Of course.

They're gonna be like, hmm, I'm gonna get myself eagle eyes, you know what I mean? Do some shit to their eyes, or they can see how far. Oh, there's a guy that literally created like himself into a lizard like he wanted to like tattoo his whole body so his scales and then like carve his teeth so he's got these crazy teeth in his tongue. He identifies as a lizard. It's like you know yeah this whole identifying his other things right. That's gonna go fucking crazy. Probably. Yeah. There's there was one guy who inserted all these

sensors into his body. What if all those futuristic movies got it right where they have like weird characters like Star Wars like that in there? But the difference is they all started like it's- They started as humans and now they're humanoid, you know, whatever reptilian. There's lizard man right there. There it is. That gross motherfucker.

So, sci-fi oftentimes- What would you like ask your daughter out on a date? Oh my God. What would you do if a dude, who's like that? Who self-identalizes a lizard? You failed as a date. Oh my God. What would you do if a dude, who's like that? Who's self-identified? He was a lizard. You failed as a father.

Yeah. You failed, bro. You know what you do? You failed, you brought this home. If that dude shows up to your fucking house as a dad, dude, you fucking failed. I don't care how much good advice you've been given on mine, but for the last two years.

If your daughter shows up with a motherfucker like that on your door, you know what? Eat your ice cream cone with this fucked up. I believe it goes like this. Every father, like the number one goal is to keep your daughter off up with a motherfucker like that on your door, you know what? Eat your ice cream cone with this fucked up. I believe it goes like this. Every father, like the number one goal is to keep your daughter off the pole, right? That's the number one goal. Yeah, don't be as number two is like, do not let the lizard man come to pick your daughter up for fucking for the problem.

Yeah, that's number two. I've got to the pale. I've gone through so many of these scenarios on my head, right? Like, what if my daughter shows up with some, and my son too, it's not just a girl thing, but as a being a father, you always tend to go around. Really do you really worry about your son bringing home with something new? Thing by this, what if look, you've got two boys just,

what if your dad brings home some girl, main, sorry, your son brings home some girl named Bubbles or something like that, and she's like, hey, that's not exactly, like twirling her hair, yeah, anyway, whatever. I'll just shake my head. And then she, oh man. You still be a little worried, right?

Like, especially if your son was super involved. You know, I'm super in love. Like, I will look at that and be like, hey son, I'll pull him aside, but you know, like, I hope this is a phase, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You get through this. So I've got a-

Is this the main girlfriend or is this one? Yeah, it's, no. Like, I'm gonna, you know what? I'm gonna control your finances. Go do know what, I'm gonna control your finances. Go do your thing, but let me control your finances. I'm gonna say, saddened, you brought the wrong one home to my house. This is the one that you go out with.

I thought, saddened, I say something. I got a boy and a girl, and I guarantee you, my son's gonna get his heart broken harder than my daughter. Boys do. Totally. Boys get blasted early on by girls. Really, really, almost. Girls are useless.

Yeah, so, but anyway, I've gone through these scenarios on my head and I've imagined like what if she showed up with some fucking total loser and she's like you know 17 and he's like 20 and he's got a motorcycle some weird shit it's a weird shit yeah I mean I mean that's not that weird yeah but I guess there's a really good chance that could happen actually a rebel so I've been thinking about the snake tattoo Yeah, and I'm like, you know what I would do? I wouldn't react. I think the worst thing you could do would be reacting away or really like him.

I just act super cool. Like, oh yeah, okay, that's cool. Hey, what's up, bro? Are you, the move is for you to get a bike and be like, hey, let's go out. And they try and join his gang. Befriend him. Throw a pole through a spoke while he's driving.

Oh, shitty died. Weird. My bad. Whoa, dude. I'm just Can we talk? Yeah, I'm in too bad. I'm having a Billy. Yeah, daddy had a motorcycle you killed him over that Jesus Bro, did I tell you what a snake dead too? That was enough. That's it. That's all I did. I did my to my sister. No. So my sister when she first Started dating she invites this this dude over to do homework together.

Now I was a very overprotective older brother. I was terrible, right? My poor sister, like, God bless her, I feel so bad for her. But anyway, so this kid comes in, nice kid or whatever, and he kind of shakes my hand when he walks in and I, obviously, crush his hand with the handshake. That was the first thing I did.

Kind of show him, like, listen, I got a grip. Yeah, so he comes in and I'm not afraid to use it. Yeah, so then he's kind of show how you're mandatory. Just kind of show him like, listen up. Listen, I got a grip. Yeah, so he comes in and not afraid to use it. Yeah, so then he's coming in and they're hanging out. I always found that was a weird thing. When guys do that, I get that all the time. When you meet people like for the first time, they're like, give you everything they got.

Just like, what is that proof? Nothing that you got a good ass hand shake. It was my ego, dude. I was, I was, hold was I. It was probably 20 or something like that. I mean, don't give me a wrong. Like, I, it also annoys me the other side, especially when people shake like this.

It's a little weekend. Yeah, it's like four fingers. Oh, limp hand. Yeah, like, yeah, exactly limp hand. They give you, do not get me the flipper. Like, actually, that's the only time I squeeze hard now. Someone gives me the weekend that I'm gonna, like, I'm gonna remind them.

I'm gonna crush your bones. You get at some tension in that hand in there buddy. So he comes in, I give him a hard handshake, we're all having conversation. And a couple times he did something to assert himself a little bit and I was like, all right. So then the conversation comes in and I'm like, so what do you do for fun?

And I was like, oh, I wrestle. I'm like, oh, you do. Like, that's cool. I'm like, I did a little judo when I was a kid, you know? So I'm like, me and my dad, we like to grapple in the living room, because we had this big living room with carpet. It's, oh my God. So I'm like, dude, show me some moves.

Like, this is cool. Show me some moves. You see that movie, Four Christmas's? That's it. What? Oh, put that on your list to watch. Oh, yeah. Dude, so I take him in the living room and I knew what he was going to do, because he's a wrestler.

He was going to try and do a double leg on me, just a traditional. I should shoot your legs. Yeah, so I fucking choke the kids so hard, dude. So fast. He's like, and I choked him and he didn't know to tap out, so he passed out a little bit. He comes too.

My sister was so upset. Of course she was so mad. Why'd you get it, you didn't have to go so hard. I'm like, I didn't go hard. I did, I went hard. I can't, you guys haven't seen Vince Vaughn's for Christmas's. No, no, no I'm like, I didn't go hard. I did, I went hard. I can't really get to have a scene, Vince Vaughn's four Christmas's. No, no, no.

And they had to go to, so both their parents are divorced. They go to all these Christmas and one of the first house they go to is like, her side of family is hella redneck. And like, you walks in, the brother is still, he's like 40 and he's still into like, WWF wrestling and she's like, Oh my God.

Straight wrestles even the Vince Vaughn. Yeah, yeah, fucking wrestles even the living room. Have you ever been in a situation like that where you go over a girlfriend's house or something and their dad or their brothers try to assert themselves? Oh yeah. What do you guys handle that? You know, I think, I think I just sloughed it off.

Being a confident guy already, I think you just, part of being confident, you're used to guys trying to challenge you like that. I've always been, I once I once I got up to, you know, my junior year, I sprouted up over six foot and even though I was a skinny guy, I wasn't a big guy, tall guys used to get get that all time. When I walk, would walk somewhere like, I don't know what it is. Yeah, I'm automatically, like every guy is measuring himself against you. It doesn't even matter if you're in defying not, it doesn't matter. So you have muscles at all.

Right, then you added when I got tall and I started to build like a physique on me. Like I've always been like one of those guys that when I get into a place that people are always dick measuring with me all the time. So I think I'm kind of used to that. So it doesn't really, it doesn't really phase me when I see that.

In fact, now I've seen it so much that you're so used to it. And when you see a guy that's like that, you know that he's really insecure and that's what's causing him to do that. In fact, now I've seen it so much that you're so used to it. And when you see a guy that's like that, you know that he's really insecure and that's what's causing him to do that. So I'm like, oh, this poor dude. Yeah, yeah. Like, oh, you're worried about me. Yeah, like, you're really. Yeah. So yeah, I usually just try and like lighten it up and like not let it even phase me at all. I've never had a guy try to wrestle me. That's interesting. I don't know how old I would do that. I might have been young. I might have been 17 or 18, like pretty young, and that, you know, right when you're in that time.

She's younger than you, too, though. Yeah, she's about, oh, no, no, no, I was, I was young. So I was like 16, because she was 14, and this was a 14, yes, I was really young, actually, at the time. So 16 year old, Sal, the ego was a little bit, a little different than the ego is now. Especially for my sister, right?

For my sister, I'm like, oh, you're gonna fucking, you're trying to kiss my sister, I'm gonna choke you out real quick. I experienced that, I've never experienced the other end of that because remember, I dated my, at the time, you know, when I was married, I dated her for so long, I knew her family well, knew each other. But I experienced that when I went to Italy to visit family one year, I was, I think I was 20, and we went to visit

and my cousin, now keep in mind, part of my family is like old school back woods in the hills Sicilian. So this is like, this is like, not sure what that means. Like banjos. Yeah, so like imagine like back woods, rural America, you know, compared to like, you know, the Bay Area. That's how this, that's how Sicily and parts of Sicily are. Got it. So you guys like milked your own cows. Like you did.

Like, bro, it's like, I'll tell you an example. So she was old. And this is real, by the way, I'm not going to go next door to like borrow some milk from the neighbor and they give you a bucket to go outside. Oh, no, no. So, so sure, here you go. You sleep with goats. So she, my cousin was 18 or had just turned 18, he loapt, okay, with a 36 year old man, just giving an example of how, how backward he is. Interesting.

So, and he, in my family and Sicily, is not well off at all, but these guys were even more like in the hills, type of deal. So I go to the visit and she had just the looplethe guy and so the the like let's go visit you know let's go visit this her with her new husband. So we drive up we're driving up in the fucking hills and we come up and we get greeted by and I'm not making a sub dude to the grandfather old brown burlap sack looking

overall so like old school succillion looking close and a rifle. He has a rifle and then father, old brown burlap sack looking overall, so like old school Sicilian looking clothes, and a rifle. He has a rifle on him, and he shows up, and he shakes our hand, and they're talking old school Sicilian dialect, like the kind that my grandparents talk to you when I was a kid, so I'm like, this is interesting.

So we get there, and we're meeting the family, and they have like a barn. This is when I remember the story I told you guys where they had the goat that was tied up and I thought it was a pet. And then my uncle was coming in slaughter the goat in front of me and I was like, oh, shit, what the fuck's going on here?

So it was a big barn and I start to meet the rest of their family and they're introducing me as you know, and my is my American cousin, Sal. So they already think I'm like, they think America, they think Beverly Hills, Hollywood, totally different type of people. So I walk in and they're like, oh, you're from America. I also was kind of built at the time I weighed about two, maybe two, fifteen, so I'm kind of thicker and bigger. Immediately the conversations are like, so

are you as, is that just for looks? You know, I'm like, oh, well, no, I don't know. And, you know, I work out a little bit. Oh, so you think you're strong, then. Well, I don't, and these are all like really macho Sicilian's. We also brought my, my, no, I mean, I don't know. I work out a little bit. Oh, so you think you're strong then. Well, these are all like really macho Sicilians. We also brought my grandfather with us and my grandfather is very old school and is a shit talker. That's what he does. He just talks out a shit,

especially if he thinks you're trying to be a badass. So as soon as these guys are saying this to me and I'm shrugging it off and I'm laughing and they're all very like, you know got the like the what is that when they chew on the piece of hair or whatever just imagine that right so my grandfather real loud he's like he's strong enough to kick your ass and I'm like oh he's fitting here yeah yeah I'm like oh my god and so everybody's getting worked up and they're like oh yeah you think you think you can kick my ass I'm like no I

can't kick your ass you guys look like, no, I can't kick your ass. You guys look like tough guys. Like I don't like to fight. My grandfather's like, he's just being modest. He kicked two of your asses at the same time. You're like, calm down, man. I'm like, whoa dude. This guy's have a rifle and it starts getting kind of heated.

So then we go in the barn and everybody starts drinking wine. And now my grandfather's getting loud. And my grandfather's talking shit. And I don't remember what their last name was. I don't remember what it was, but- This is weird image coming together in my head right now. It's exactly like this scene right here. Bro, it's like the Godfather Part Two

when they go to Sicily and they see, you guys watch Part Two? It's just like that. Okay, where the women are kind of like careful, not to, they say the wrong thing around their husbands and all that weird shit. So we're sitting around this table in the barn. We start drinking wine and the shit talking keeps going.

So then my grandfather stands up, gets up on his chair, because he's now he's had some wine. And he goes, listen here. He goes, I don't remember what the last names were, okay? Let's just say it was, you know, I don't know. Let's say it was Feta Chienier, some Feta Chienier. So my grandfather stands up and he goes, he goes, the Fedachinis will never be as strong

as the De Stefano's, like makes this loud proclaim it. And like challenging them. And my dad looks at me and he's like, he makes the eyes at me like, my dad's going to go, what's happening? My dad starts shit and my dad, he's about to go down. And in the old school Sicilian like respect for your dad,

like my dad's a grown man, he ain't gonna say shit cause it's his dad. So he's like, I can't say nothing. That's my dad who's in charge of it. So then they all get worked up. And so then they start talking shit to me and they're like, well, if you're so strong, then you arm wrestle me right now on this table.

So everybody gets clear and everybody's getting all heated. And so then my grandfather, who's now talking, now they're talking shit, now they're patriarch, who's their grandfather, it's talking shit to my grandfather, who's now talking, now they're talking shit, now they're patriarch, who's their grandfather, it's talking shit to my grandfather. My grandfather says, before you arm wrestle, Sal, why don't you arm wrestle his brother, who's only 14 years old, if you can beat him,

then we'll let you arm wrestle, Sal. They all start laughing. Now my brother's strong as fuck. Like, however strong I am, it's built through resistance training, like heavy, it is just, it's built through resistance training. Like heavy. It's just, it is de-n-n-day. meticulous, like detailed to like everything to try and be strong.

Yeah. My brother naturally is fucking as strong as I am if I train really hard. Let's just put it that way. So he's just a strong kid, even when he was a kid. So now everybody's laughing because of the skinny 14 year old. Like, yeah, nobody will kill him. We'll crush him. He's like, well, then give it a shot.

So my brother arm wrestles, their biggest guy says, no, I'm not gonna do it, because he's a kid. Have a arm wrestle, this other guy who's like the 17 year old. So my brother fucking crushes him. So now my grandfather's talking, hellish shit. Hellish shit. You can't even beat a 14 year old, like, don't fucking hellish it.

So then their biggest dude on their family's like, all arm wrestle him. And so I think my grandfather saw like, oh, he's probably gonna beat this little kid. It's fine, you can arm wrestle, Sal. So he sits down, his wife steps in and she goes, no, no, no, no, don't arm wrestle him. The Americans gonna hurt you,

because they saw my brother and sees me, who's this 220, who I look like a massive guy to these guys, he says nobody ever works out in this area, they don't know what it looks like. So he goes, no, don't arm wrestle him, he's gonna hurt you, the Americans, he fucking pushes her like face, pushes her away. Get outta here, man, you're talking.

I'm like, oh shit, this is getting old school, this is getting crazy. So then I arm wrestle him, so we get our hands together, so then my dad tells me in English, he goes, he goes, pretend like you're going hard, but then I want you to embarrass him. So now my dad's getting in on it. Oh good, now he's trying to.

So that's what I did. I was pretending like I was straining. And then I kind of laughed at him and I smashed him. My grandfather gets up on the table, kicks over fucking wine bottles. I told you guys, so everybody fucking shit. It's getting super heated. And then we became friends. And then everybody was, how cool.

We were all good after that. And then we could be good. Now I know why you want that armisting. Yeah, dude, no one's here. This is where it all comes from. Oh, it's so great. That's a great story though. If you guys ever, my grandfather passed away,

but if you guys had ever, I would love your grandfather. That's my people. You know, that reminds me and my great uncle speaking of sexist men I saw that you got your you got a little bit of heat for your bagel fucking post just just one One or one or two people so dumb did people are so sensitive I think it's so crazy that we live in this this over sensitive that you can't, it's a goddamn meme, first of all. And it's a joke. Everybody needs to calm down.

So the joke is, I'll read the meme, the meme so people can understand. I think you took it down, didn't you? No, no, it was gone. It just spired it. Yeah, it spired it. Oh, okay. I was like, oh, I hope Selvin take that down.

There's a one person that messaged him some bullshit. Okay, so here's the meme. It's a bagel where it's like a really plump bagel where you can't even see through the whole bagel. Yeah, like the holes. And it says, I'm used up. Yeah, and it says, I'm young, I want to find myself.

And then there's a picture of a bagel with a bagel all in the middle. And it says, I want to settle down with a nice guy now. It's a joke. But I got two people who are like, that's sexist. Yeah, it's not though. It's not sexist. Why can't it be a guy looking for another guy as he gets older?

That's what I said to the person. I'm like, it could be a dude. It could be a bottom that's you. That's what makes me mad is it's people are triggered like that over. But it doesn't matter even if it was, come on everybody. And you know, here's a thing,

we need to be able to be okay with joking with each other and teasing each other. You know what's funny? I have. Well, why is it okay? You must post a bajillion memes. I can't even keep up with all of them. I know.

And many of them are teasing liberals you know, liberals or different, or conservative, or conservative. Right, so those are people. Why is that okay? Why are we okay with certain things? But then why are we on this kick of like, oh, if you do something like that, like that's just for it. I think what happens is,

I think what happens, we're in a state right now where if you make fun of someone for being, and this is true, by the way, come at me and debate me if you don't believe so. So 100% talking to you. JPM Sears did a great YouTube on like this. I think it was a millennial one. I'm offended, did you're offended?

It's so hilarious. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no 100% true and now 100% true. And we can debate as to why this is true and that's a good discussion. But what I'm about to say, there's no, there's 100%. If I make fun of the Christian religion, white people or men or all three of the above, straight white men who are Christians, I will get almost, it's not a big, it's like open season. If I say anything about anybody else in a joking manner or whatever,

then I could get hammered and ripped and all that stuff. And I do understand. And the argument is that everyone would argue that all the other people have been oppressed for so long, and then those people have been celebrated for so long. They call it like punching up or whatever. Yeah, punch up, you can't punch down. Well, here's the way I look at it.

If one is okay, then they're all okay, or none of them are okay. That's punching up or whatever. Yeah, punch up, you can't punch down. Well, here's the way I look at it. If one is okay, then they're all okay. Or none of them are okay. That's the consistent. Hey, we knew it when Dave... I like the South Park approach. Dave won, everybody. Because, yeah, right, day, exactly. No, that's exactly mind-pump, too.

That when we day one, when we all get together, we knew how crude all of our humor was, right? And inappropriate that all of it was. That's how we are. And we all agreed, right, that we wanted to be ourselves somewhere on this show. And it's like, listen, we're gonna put ourselves in the comedy.

Yeah. Like, yeah, we're gonna give some really good fitness information, put some science out there, put some really intelligent conversations on this show, but at the same time too, I wanna have some fun and be, and be, and be, and be, and make fun of ourselves on a daily. Right.

So, you know, on top of every single type of person individual like we're gonna make funny you. I get made fun of daily in our forum. Yeah. For members will make post a meme about me you know like talking shit and it's endearing like I it's okay. I tend to make the thing I like I'm making fun of your voice or something. That's something because I like you. Yeah, you're right. I mean, or I don't know, sometimes that crosses my mind,

like we were talking even with like tarot. Well, it really annoys me as to like, sour staying where they're like. You know why? Because being offended is empowering. That's why it feels empowering to someone. Like, is that why it is? That's what you're seeking.

They're seeking power. To claim you're a victim is to claim power over someone when you tell them. Like if I tell you, like if you're making a point to me and I'm like, you know what, I'm offended and you're being, you know, whatever, race is sexist or you're being oppressive towards me right now.

And you're just talking or whatever. I've now, I've got the Trump card. I've got the like, it's the power over you. It's the same reason why, here's why. It's the same reason why somebody who's 85% of European descent and 15% Native American descent will usually claim the Native American descent. They'll say to people, oh, well, I have a friend,

check this out, I have a friend who got a tattoo on her leg of this Native American head dress. Now she looks 100% Irish, but it's because she says that some aunt or something or some, you know, whatever was, was it, was a, you know, Native American. She did a 23-A-Mee test and guess what? She wasn't at all. She wasn't at all. She wasn't at all. And she wasn't raised that way and that stuff.

That's fire. Yeah, it's like, you know, anyway. Shucks dude, I'm not telling anybody, I try to get 10. Yeah, it says, cause the tattoo like going away. That process is revealing, I found out I'm like way more Scandinavian. I don't even know, I was Scandinavian at all. And it's like, I'm like, man, the Vikings were fucking on a tear.

Yeah. They just, they just took over. I bet you anybody that's European is like, definitely Scandinavian. And the thing too is humor, there's different levels of humor. Humor can be very individual. One person thinks it's funny,

one person thinks it's not funny. But I'm not, I share this with a lot of people. I find very inappropriate type, dark humor, the most funny. I love it when people cross lines and say shit that you're not supposed to say, but I know it's lighthearted and they're not actually bad people. It's about the intent behind it. Well, because we're all, if somebody's by heart.

Like if somebody's actually racist, I'm not gonna associate myself with it. Somebody's actually sexist, I think you're small-minded and you're a piece of shit. If somebody's actually hurtful or hateful, you're a piece of shit. If you're not and you're a good person and you make jokes, and you break the tension by saying things,

you're not supposed to. The tension that everybody has on a daily basis to wake up and everything's still demanding. The world's out to get them like let's lighten it up. That's it. There's it's a sign of the times when comedians are afraid to perform at colleges. That's all I have to say. Isn't that crazy? Isn't that crazy? That's where we're at right now that we have comedians that just can't even perform at college at colleges anymore because they're jokes. It's what the fuck? It's terrible. That is the funniest shit I've ever heard. Yeah, yeah, it's not literally right. I try to cause it thing.

Yeah, so it's weird. It's this like, you know, I don't know. And I get what you guys think it take, take your pills, dude. That was a crazy. That's right. Yeah. We didn't even talk about that. That was a crazy. What we all watch, take your pills. I watched it the night before and I, and I shot out through whoever's been DM me. I've had a couple people keep following up on me. Did you watch Take Your Pills?

Did you watch Take Your Pills? We finally watched Take Your Pills. Actually, one of my favorite documentaries. Not just a really good job. Yeah, because it's done really well. It's actually really, it's shot really well. Something like what was it? We just watched one before that

that I thought was just kind of like not well made. Well, they didn't, it wasn't like all about how horrible, you know, the drug is for the majority of the beginning, it was like why it's so enticing and why people have been drawn towards it, okay, well, here's where it leads, and here's the road that it looks like. I did not know the history behind ADHD and what we used to call it, you know, back in the 30s. And marginal brain damage. Right. That's what they called it. It was to me.

That was the name of ADHD the most like holy shit. They changed it to ADD because no parent wants to take a kid and get diagnosed with that. They'd rather have ADD than they can prescribe. Yeah, no parents can accept their kid is half brain dead, you know, and because they named it that, that's scared. Which by the way, obviously, you're not, but that's what they called it. Right.

And it scared people away from agreeing that their kid could potentially have it. Now, you give it something like ADHD. Oh, my son or my daughter just has a hard time keeping in their attention. That's not so bad. Okay, I have no soul revealing the parents mentality towards just completely. Oh, I just, I heard my friend does this with their kid and then the doctor prescribes it so willingly

and they don't even second guess that they're giving their child medication and what the ramifications are. Doesn't even do any back study on that. I was like, what? We're definitely in the middle of a end-fendemic epidemic. We have an open epidemic and end-fendemic epidemic in terms of prescription drugs.

The amount of children, right now we've exceeded the peak of methamphetamine use in the US before now was in the 60s when it was just getting prescribed like crazy. And it was getting prescribed to housewives, businessmen, people were getting injections of it, because it had been around for a long time. Yeah, now what is it called like SNF or SNF before? Isn't that what that is? The butyroll or the...

Oh, it was in inhaler. Benzadrine or Benzadrine. Benzadrine, wasn't it the street name or whatever it was called or like the short name for? It was just snuff or sniffing. So for the bombers, right? In World War II. Yeah, but not only that, but it was very popular with banking and businessmen.

And stuff like that. You even see like, they call the pep, they use your pep. Yeah, maybe that's what it was. I know that it was, I mean, you see it, people don't, so an example right off the top of my head,

but I know I've seen this multiple times. Jim Carrey's Christmas Carol, the cartoon. There's a part in there where there's like three bankers that are outside, you know, they're all cartoons, they're laughing so that and they're they're about to go inside and you see one of them put something up to his nose and snort it. Looks like he takes a bump off of his thumb. And you know, if you catch that, you're like, what the fuck? That's a cartoon, you just did it, but what it is, it's that stuff. There's the methamphetamine.

That's the way they were getting it. Yeah, because it was so widely accepted. It was, and housewives were prescribed it, so they could do more housework and be more peppy and up for their husbands or whatever, and men were using it in business. And then the methamphetamine, you know, it became like a big street drug, it was called speed.

They clamped down on it, used drop considerably until it became this big thing to prescribe people these methamphetamines for ADD. And today, I don't know how many millions, I think what was it like? One that of every 10 kids is diagnosed with ADD and the vast majority of them is on these medications. By six years old.

Now keep in mind, this is a drug that definitely has powerful influences over brain chemistry. You're giving your kids speed by six years old dude. That's fucking great. And here's the one that blew me away because I know there's somebody listening right now who potentially probably has put their kid on ADHD or put them on this medication was the study that came out to show that it isn't doing anything to your brain. It doesn't make you smarter. It does not, it does not improve cognitive function.

All it is, if you give somebody fucking speed, anybody's speed with or without ADHD, all these good and confident. Yeah, it gives you this well-being, right? It makes you feel more... It makes you perceive yourself as being smarter. Right. Because they did a big study on this where they had the... Which I would argue that if you gave a bunch of people Coke the same thing would happen to very similar right very similar yeah what they what they

did is they they placebo control this where they gave some people you know aterol or riddle in and some people nothing and then they had them take these tests and they had baselines obviously they took the test without them and the scores were no better but the perceived you know the the people perceive perceived themselves as being smarter, did this pill make you help you perform better on the test? Which anybody who's done any sort of methamphetamine drug or cocaine or anything like that knows exactly that you feel fucking awesome while you're out. You do.

You just feel fucking like Superman. That's right. And so there's that. It doesn't really help in that particular sense. And then the other thing is that you have a generation of children who are going through school on this substance, going through college on this substance, and you've built this relationship with it

where you think you need it. How do you plan on coping in the real world when you get out of school or anytime now, when you have to handle difficult situations? One of the side effects, by the way, of methamphetamines is psychosis. Thank you, I was just gonna bring that up. That's what seriously worries me,

especially how those numbers have inflated so much of usage, right? And like having kids starting so young and then using it for that amount of time, like, and it has some potential side effects for psychosis. Psychosis is a real, meth heads, right? We know what they can do, what they're capable of, there's that stereotype.

You are giving, or you are taking a almost identical version of that and a lower dose and all that stuff, but it's still a form of meth, but we have millions of kids on methamphetamines and millions of kids on SSRI drugs, which are serotonin re-uptake inhibitors, which influences serotonin system in the brain

for things like depression, anxiety, whatever. And what's the biggest problem like we face right now? You see these kids doing crazy terrible shit. You know, we talk about these shootings in school. Didn't you say that they're trying to connect that to that right now? They have been. They've been talking about this. Kids, look, here's about these shootings in school. Didn't you say that they're trying to connect that to that right now? There's, they have been. They've been talking about this.

Because look, here's the deal. Like, guns, it's not the guns. What, guns have been a part of American culture from day one. So they've been around for a long time. And it's a relatively recent phenomenon. I say relatively because it's not like recent as in recent like this decade. This, you know, these types of things have been happening since the 1960s. In fact, in 1990s, we saw gun, you know, these types of things have been happening since the 1960s. In fact, in 1990s, we saw,

gun, you know, school shootings were actually higher than the art today. But since then, we've seen kind of this kind of phenomenon where every once in a while, I see a kid going to school or whatever, shoot up a school. And it's like, what the fuck's going on? Look, guns have been around for,

since day one in America, that was part of the, I know, we try, when we try and point it towards bullying and things like that too. It's like, come on, dude. No, kids are going crazy. Kids have been bullying kids since we were kids. Worse, probably. Worse.

Yeah. Some of these kids are going crazy and getting that level of psychosis. And I'm not saying that they are the cause of it, but there's definitely, there could be some potential there. Like, let's take a look. If you take, let me put it this way. Yes, studies will show that Ritalin, Adderall, SSRIs, in studies don't typically cause these problems, although small percentage may, right, especially for susceptible, but

now spread that out over millions, tens of millions of kids. Right. Well, now all you need is like one or two kids to lose their shit and Do some crazy shit like epigenics something like expresses, you know the and it like creates it The potential is there Especially when you're looking at numbers wise how many how many tens of thousands or millions of kids millions of kids that are now on that Dude, that's crazy. This is why this is is why, when we talk about herbs and stuff like that, and I'm always saying, look, at the moment,

there's no science supporting that this herb does is, however, it's been used in this particular culture for 5,000 years, so it's been established in that culture that it helps with whatever, stomach, ailment, cough, immune system, whatever. So figure, 5,000 years means millions of millions of people have used it over that period of time. Now when we do drug testing, even the most rigorous drug

testing, you're looking at thousands of people in studies. The real test is when we put out in the market and then we start to see millions of millions of people use them, then you start to see little weird things start to express themselves. And this is why FDA approved drugs get taken off the market every day. Like these are things that went through

the whole rigorous process of going through all the most, I mean, the FDA has the most rigorous process of regulating and approving drugs in the world. But yeah, still some get pulled off. Still, we'll have a drug that's, that all of a sudden, oh, we gotta pull it off, it looks like it causes dementia. You know, oh, we gotta pull this off the it causes dementia. We gotta pull this off the market,

it looks like it causes heart problems. So these are all, drugs that affect the brain, you're putting a bunch of children on it, it's definitely affecting neurotransmitters, which definitely affect how the brain develops. You put enough kids on it, you're gonna see some weird shit, maybe potentially. Well, I tell you what, if you're a parent

that's ever even considered doing this, or you are doing this with a kid like this- What is that document? Absolutely, that have to watch this documentary, I think it explains it really, really well. Look, I've taken, I've tried and taken Adderall and Ritalin, it's awesome. I've tried them, and when I took them,

like the first time I tried an Adderall, I was like, okay, I could see why this is an addictive substance, you get a very, you know, pronounced feeling of euphoria and confidence and whatever. My God, if I was raised on that, I would have a difficult time functioning without it, because I would build up my confidence based on that, you know. Like what do I do now? Where do I develop, especially socially too.

That's tough, man. Plus think about it this way, and they said this on the document which I thought was brilliant. The ability to deal with emotions, to deal with boredom, to deal with lack of motivation, to deal with these challenges, a lot of times that's where creativity comes from,

that's where growth comes from, that's where growth comes from, that's where all these incredible ideas that we see brilliant minds come up with, a lot of times they come up from those states of mind. They don't come from someone feeling really good, motivated and focused on one thing. They come from those other states of mind. Like how many artists and musicians,

what are we gonna be creating in the future for all medicated to be these focus robots who can complete these organized tasks, you know what I mean? It's just really scary to me. And the millions of children that are on it and people, well, it's so competitive, right? And like a lot of parents get stuck into the trap of like setting their child up for success so early

and like doing all these things like perfect because it's, you know, like so and so is doing it and, you know, I got to make sure that my child can have the edge and the competitiveness and it's like, they're all competing for what to be a better student. Oh, how about the, how about the, what was it, six graders?

I don't even younger the teacher that, when the kid got transferred to that school, it was like a private school or whatever. And she said the first day of school, she had brought her kid there that she asked if he was on any. He needs to be on medication. Yeah, because every kid in the class is...

Makes your job easier as a teacher. Imagine you have a whole kid on Adderall, a whole classroom on Adderall, the kids are going to be very... They can sit and focus. They're going to sit, do their work, listen to what you're saying, be very focused maybe, you know, and that makes your job easier. But then you got a bunch of test-takers. they can sit and focus. They're gonna sit, do their work, listen to what you're saying, be very focused maybe, and that makes your job easier, but then you got a bunch of test-takers.

I wonder how many teachers are, we're actually doing that, you know what I'm saying? That's, I didn't even think that of that. Like, oh wow, how many teachers would love for their kids to be just medicated like that? So their job is that much easier. Look here, we know. That's fucking scary.

Look, we know here for a fact, this is not my opinion, this is 100% confirmed. Okay. If you get kids and you reduce their activity tremendously, so they're not playing outside, they're not expressing themselves physically, they're sitting down in a classroom, on a desk or watching TV or on a computer all day long,

plus you combine that with a shitty diet and lots of distractions. It's gonna express itself as hyperactivity or inability to focus or irritability or whatever. Bottom line. Get your kid, I got two kids, I see it all the time. Get them outside exercising to come in, all of a sudden they're way easier to manage,

more calm, especially when you change your diet and all that stuff. So it's that whole, it's an easy, and I know, look, I know there's kids out there that need medical intervention. I get that, but do we really think one-tenth of all the children in America? Fuck no.

Have this medical diagnosis that it's real or that it's an actual issue? Or it might be the environment, you know, as far as like education, like how we're teaching them things and like, you know, getting them up and moving, you know, that is part of the process. Dude, some of the ads they were showing for for these drugs for so dirty. Yeah, so bad.

It's so dirty. Yeah, like, oh, thanks, mom. I can do my homework now. Oh, shit, they're selling it as, hey, give this to your kids so they can perform better. So you feel better about, I don't know, man. It's, it's, it's creepy. It's a little, it's a little bit, It's alarming. It's a little unnerving. It's the typical Western approach, right?

We want to take away all the challenges of life and make life feel easier, right? Like I was having this conversation the other day with Jessica and we were, I don't remember what we were doing, we were watching something and it was like it was a movie showing, you know, like 17 year old girl talking to another 17 year old boy or whatever. And we, I was laughing because how much more emotionally evolved in advance, girls tend to be at the same age as boys, just the fact, like, girls are just

emotionally far more intelligent than boys are at a young age. And it takes men typically a long time to start to approach that level. And so, me and Jessica, we're talking about this and speculating as to why. Why is this? I understand the evolutionary purpose of it, potentially, or what we think. But why are girls, why do girls advance so much faster with their understanding of emotions in themselves than boys do? And the thing that we came up with was because girls at a young age

go through dramatic hormone fluctuations. And so it's like they're put through the ringer. They have to become emotionally intelligent because one minute they're estrogenous. Are you going to be a stasis again? Well, they just have to become emotionally intelligent because one minute they're estrogen is stasis again. Well, they just have to learn how to deal with it. Imagine if you were, imagine as a boy at the age of 11 or 10, like your hormones just fluctuate. You have to learn how to deal with that.

And you become smart on dealing with emotions as a result, whereas boys, we're like, we get horny and I'm sure puberty hits, but it's kind of like easy and the same. So for us, it's like, duh, everything's kind of easy, right? So we're kind of dumb in that sense. And it's that going through that challenging process that is one of the reasons I think why women and girls in particular just are so much more emotionally intelligent

and empathetic than boys at the same age. Oh, you think so? I definitely think so. I think much of that goes all the way back to like when they're just early on ages too. I think just being seen your mother and connecting that way too. It could. I think all of those things, but like imagine if you had to go through this. I do.

I know. I definitely just went through having low testosterone for a while. How much did you evolve? Right. Because you had to do that. No, so I do. I do somewhat agree with you. I think that they're for sure has something to do

with that, like having to manage your hormones that when you're forced to as a kid, you gotta kind of gather yourself, right? You can't be this, you can't go to school ever if you're a young teenage girl, you can't go to school every day and fucking scream at everybody or time you fucking go emotional.

What's going on, right? Or else you'll be a now cast. Yeah, so my pours is you to kind of evolve that. And my point with all that is now girls are being placed on birth control at young ages and women and or placed on SSRI drugs to control the bad effects of the hormones, like the PMS or the moodiness or whatever you want to call it. I know, you know how many women are prescribed SSRIs and anxiety medications because around around their period, around their PMS because they helps them, you know, normalize it.

Yeah, or whatever. Like you're taking that away. And that's again, what we're doing with the medication for hyperactive kids. Like rather than learning how to handle it, manage it, look at other options and maybe what that can contribute to. Well, we're always in life. We're always trying to skip the hard part. Yeah. When reality, that's where the lesson lies, right?

I think that's oh there's a lesson in that so much now. I always take the hard road man I just that's just the thing the load the road less just learn less travel just learn from it I'm gonna throw this for you. This quaz brought to you by organify For those days you fall short on getting your organic veggies or whole food nutrition Organify fills the gap with laboratory-tested certified organic superfoods to help give your health a performance the added edge. Try Organify totally risk-free for 60 days by going to Organify.com. That's O-R-G-A-N-I-F-I.com

and use a coupon code MindPump for 20% off at checkout. Alright, a first question is from diary of a fit guy. How do each of you structure your training during periods of heavy travel? That's our boy, man. Yeah, that's right. It's a good guy. And so he's asked the question. Yeah, he's a good guy.

Dude, travel, we're now starting to really learn how to kind of manage this, I guess. But when you're, when you're traveling, depending on, for us at least, we sleep less, we're more stressed out because we're obviously traveling to do an event or to podcast with other people, so it's a little bit more. We may all look at pressure. We may all look at this differently. Yeah, it's just different challenges. So I guess I'll speak for myself personally.

I try to prioritize some exercise. At least, like, let's say, if we're gone for five days, I'll try and get at least two or three scheduled workouts. I try to get to bed or at least get a decent amount of sleep during that period of time, but I'm not working out to maximize my performance as much. I'm just doing it to maintain myself. So I can...

I would echo that as far as the intensity goes. I definitely saved my more intense days for. I'm just doing it to maintain myself. So I can, I would echo that as far as the intensity goes. Like I definitely saved my more intense days for when I'm consistent and I'm here and I'm not traveling versus when I'm traveling, it's nice if like, you know, if we have it, so it's structured where there's free time and like, okay, well great, now we can go to a gym that's close by or we can figure something out that's gonna be be movement based, like some activity because I do, man, I hate sitting.

I hate sitting and I hate doing things where I'm inactive. My body just really, I start to not feel good. It really affects me. So, anything I can do to get in the sun, to get out in nature and just move is a success when I'm traveling, but yeah, I love it when we make time to actually get a light workout in at least, because then my body just feels better, my energy levels are better when we go into podcasts

or do work, wherever we are when you know, when we're traveling, but yeah, that's become a big thing. If we can at least get like a moderate kind of a workout in while we're there, it's good. Maps anywhere is perfect for this. I mean, that's part of the reason why we designed it was to create workouts that can be done anywhere, hence the name Maps anywhere.

And I love, because I don't do a shit ton of body weight training and tension work on my own. But when we travel, that's when I'll take that opportunity. Like when we went at, when we traveled with Robert Obersd, you know, there's a couple of times we went outside and got to work out. We got some actually good photos out of that too, but we took bands with us and we did band exercises

and body weight stuff and mobility type stuff. And so, you know, I kind of take it sometimes as an opportunity to do things that I mean at normally Do with my body if I'm in my home gym and stuff like that and It just feels so much better. I don't really I don't really stress about it that much I the biggest thing that I think that we've gotten much better about and I think that we've we've figured out is the eating piece That was probably the most challenging thing is, when we first started traveling, it was like, I could feel myself wanting to just fall off

like, oh, we're traveling, we're out like this. And especially when we were first doing this because I was competing. And so it was like, oh, this is nice. This is like a cheat weekend for me or I'm not gonna worry about anything and just eat whatever. But then I ended up feeling miserable because Justin and I would eat pizza

or something like that, right? So. Dude, I was like, yeah, you'd always pull me in. For the kill. For the kill. Yeah, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, easy, in the morning. I would go, we're always near a gym somewhere, or we do have our bands with us. We have things that I can do to keep my fitness going.

But sometimes, if anything like for me, this is me speaking for myself, I probably flirt more with being the obsessive workout person more so than I am the guy that like doesn't ever work out, right? So when I go into a weekend like this where we're traveling, my priority is just shift. It's like this is, we're in business mode, we're doing something like that. So my thought process is around that.

So I wanna do more recuperative type stuff. So if I'm gonna, I don't even wanna train a hard session. I have no desire to, I'm normally the guy, if anyone that is pushing back, like, nah, I don't really wanna go to the gym, like I have no desire to go hammer myself inside the gym while we're already flying in planes, sleeping in other people's beds.

That to me is not, I'm already stressing my body with that and we have pressures of, I'm gonna be standing up and speaking to people tomorrow, like my brain's going a million miles an hour on other stuff, so the gym to me and going to work out because I wanna look a certain way is in as much of a priority. So getting some maybe band work going to work out because I want to look a certain way is in as much of a priority. So getting some maybe band work. I mean, when we go to Texas,

we always have a pool. So I was doing and I'm rehabbing my Achilles steel. So I was doing pool work on my Achilles. I got bands in my bedroom. So I'm doing some, you know, stuff from my posture, but it's not really hardcore training. Now, if you have a heart, and I know he trains, so I could see where the question is coming from for you, like, okay, if you're getting ready to compete, like, well, yeah, like if I was getting ready to compete, I would, I would literally leave the guys if I had to and go get my own session

that I need to keep my body on pace for stage ready in, you know, X amount of weeks before I get on there, and I would make the time. Even if I knew it isn't what's best for my overall health because my goals are different, because my goals are, I've got a competition, I've got to present myself a certain way within six weeks. I can't miss this workout. It's scheduled. It's part of my volume. It's part of everything that I've got to present myself a certain way within six weeks. I can't miss this workout. It's scheduled. It's part of my volume.

It's part of everything that I've planned out. I will, if that means I got to get up at 5 a.m. And train before when it gets up where I got to stay up late and go train at midnight. I'm going to do so, but that's not me being trying to be balanced and healthy. Like I'm in a different space right now. And so I'm thinking of, okay, we just flew for four hours, time changed difference, we're getting up early tomorrow morning to do a seminar or something like that. Could I go squeeze the gym in?

Like, yeah, I could, but it's not a priority for me right there. And if I choose to eat the right foods, which is this is why I started with this, that's the most important thing to me right now. If I choose to make sure that I make healthy choices nutritionally, then I'm going to be just fine. In fact, my body will probably, it probably served me to not train for a couple days. I look at it like when I train as I'm traveling, well, there's two things. First off, I do personally fully enjoy working out in different places. It's just a fun thing from always, always have. So if I'm traveling somewhere,

I do like to find different gyms. I don't care what gym it is. Even if it's a hotel gym for whatever reason, I have a lot of fun doing that. But I also, you know, like Adam, I view the workout not as to improve my performance. It's really just to, you know, because usually when we travel,

we work more, a lot more. So it's really just to make me perform better at that. So a break, move my body, feel real good, can be 30 minutes, usually that's what it is. Right. I love what we do like is, every now and then, like when we're in on it, we go do the sauna, we do things like that. Yeah. When we're using mobility and then, yeah, like, our training when we travel is more recuperative,

I think. What I do too is if I know we're going to be gone for about three or four days, which is typically the length of our travel, then what I'll do is I'll lead into that with a little overreach. Right, right, right. So I'd really push it hard the day's leading up to it. That's easy, right, dude. And then knowing that's what we all do.

That's going to be a rest. That's something we all have in common. We all get a really good training session, even though it's not together. We all get a good lift in before we head off. But there are people, you know, listening who travel is like half their life, you know what I mean? Like they have a job where it's literally 50%. That's a very good point.

Totally different scenario. That's where Maps Anywhere was created. It was created for that person. It is not created, even though you can still use it, okay? There's two people I really, I personally envisioned when we did Maps Anywhere. It was either one, like you just said, Sal, someone who spends almost 50% of their time traveling.

So therefore- They need a good workout. Yeah, they can do anywhere. Right, they need a good workout that I could do absolutely. And then there's the other person who might be a competitor, like Sean is, so this is, he's an example of this person who, how I would use maps anywhere, is you, you can't sacrifice any muscle, you gotta be building,

you have a show in 12 weeks or whatever, so you've got to stay on pace, but then you might be traveling and gone for four or five days. And you might be in a hotel hotel room because you're doing banquet style type shit or whatever. So if you're that person, like I definitely see maps anywhere being an excellent tool for that person.

Now if you're just a normal person who's chasing overall health and want to be fit and strong, like, you mean nutrition is number one, watch. I think the biggest thing that people fuck up is nutrition when they're traveling. When you're traveling, nutrition is the hardest thing. And being okay with one fasting, okay. This is also what we do a lot. Taylor hates to travel with all of us.

Yeah, because we, this is a great time for travel with all of us. Because we, this is- We don't eat. No, we just don't eat. We just all go, this is a great time for us to incorporate. Blunge. Fasting. And we'll just, we'll work all day and not eat. So therefore, again, if that's, we're right. We're flying, not sleeping the best. We're also not consuming a lot of food.

Like really getting into the gym and getting a major workout is probably not even that ideal. I will say this though, of all the, and I know you guys, I'm sure you guys will agree, of all the programs and stuff we sell, the one that shocks people the most. Most underrated for sure. It's maps anywhere. Yeah, it is.

Who is it? Christina Rice. Christina Rice just did. And that's the one that train, when we get trainers that actually go through it, they're like, oh, fuck, this is- Dude, you can, I'm telling you right now, the way we wrote that program, and I pull it in, and she was laughing because of the, where we filmed it, and that house.

That's right. And we did that on purpose to show that you could do this in a house, by the way, because we were kind of being silly, as we were doing it. But the, but if you, and we had a very low budget back then, it was a good, good, good, good, good, good, good. But we didn't have any models,

we were doing some weird stuff. The way we wrote the program was, how could we make this as effective as a routine that uses weights or as close as we can as possible. I think we did a fucking good job. So we follow the program because there's, I know there's a lot of people listening to who just don't want to go to a gym. They just don't want to work out or wait.

They don't want to work out, but they don't want to do it in a gym. They just want to do it at home. It will blow you away. We wrote it in a way that it's going to be super effective. So you can get a lot of progress without any equipment. You just have to be smart with how you program your workout. Next question is from Joe Pushner. Are there some things to try when someone feels like they may

actually be sliding backwards even when they're programming and nutrition have been consistent with what got results before. What way to say it? Are there some things? Yeah, like what can you do? Let's say you've been consistent. Like this stuff's worked for you before. Your workouts worked for you before

and nutrition's worked for you before. But all of a sudden your body's not progressing. Oh, this is actually really common in the competitive world, really, really common. So I see this a lot with, I mean, I remember having lots of conversations with my peers, I was like, man, I'm on the exact same amount of macro, my macros are the same, I'm training just hard, my cardio is the same, I'm doing all these things in like my body, it's just not responding well, it's just not

responding well to what the same stimulus. And so that a lot of times is what it is, it's just, this is a result for at least from what my experience that a lot of times is what it is. It's just this is a result for at least from what my experience in a lot of what I've seen is the overtraining and constantly hammering the body the same way for a long period of time. And it's just got very adapted and efficient. And so just because you're eating good and you're training good, if it's something that you've been doing a lot or similar to that for a very long time You're seeing minimal to no results from it. It's actually very common and even more common and the people that are

Can even more consistent you would think as a competitor that these guys and girls don't have a hard time with this This is actually a common issue that I see and I thought that it was something that Blue my mind is what I would the only way that I would see these guys change and girls is two things, the two variables that they would know how to really change. And that was, they would either ramp up more cardio, which is always crazy to see or more drugs. But I, it was less.

Yeah, it would be, it would be, it would be, it would be, yeah, strict, but you can only go so far with that, right? Like everybody knows, like, oh shit, well I'm down to eating 1500 calories, like I'm already, but yeah, they'll still do it because I those are like the two metrics that like it people tend to kind of be susceptible towards like those are the only two things that are going to change my body this

this happens with everybody this is the same thing with people with with wellness like hey I this diet's always made me feel real good now all of a sudden I'm in flame and I have gut issues like what's what's going on? Here's the thing you need to understand. Your body's not the same. It's not the same today as it was yesterday. Definitely not the same a year from now. It is today and 10 years from now. So what you did before worked for that particular version

of your body and that particular combination of circumstances that you were under. Today, it's not working for you. So try different things. This is it's not working for you. So try different things. This is why I don't like classes. And I know I hammer things like orange theory and boot camps and stuff like that a lot because, you know, the first time that you signed up for orange theory, the first time you signed up for Joe's boot camp and you started doing it and you decided to get on your diet and do that. You saw phenomenal results and you

told all your girlfriends and you told all your girlfriends, and you told all your friends, you gotta try this class out, it's fucking awesome. I look great, everybody's complimenting you. And then a year goes by, two year goes by, and you do just like, what everybody does on and off the wagon, you're really good about your class and eating,

then you're not so good, then you're really good, not so good. And then what you're starting to notice year over year is like, fuck each time I do this, I'm not getting back to that first shape that I got into and that's a vicious cycle. Dude, it's so interesting because there's also the parallel with, I see this all the time when I go do pickup games

like with basketball or you know, like a lot of guys like are like soccer or something like that. Like I was in phenomenal shape and so I would just go play you know, pickup games again and start trying to get in shape. Like I get that all the time. Like I'm trying to get in shape again. And it's like not working for them. Yeah. Yeah. It's just like, like, you know, your body literally needs a new stimulus. Yeah. And you need to step out of your comfort zone and get, you know, get your body to respond. And I do some different. Yeah. And I have theories on the nutrition side too that I just,

I don't think we know enough about that too that I think that Why would it be any different? I talked about this a long time ago on on my pump in a in a while and That is like why would I think it's any different if I am feeding myself? Consistently same types of times and prepping my meals I'm doing all over and over and over just same way like if I were to do that with a training program Why would I not think that my body would not get adapted to that same theory that I have on people that intermittent fast every single day? It's like you know intermittent count after a while right I think after a while that the the results or the benefits Start to diminish right so why would it be any different for nutrition as it is for programming?

So honestly, you know, I think the mistake that someone, that I have, and I don't know who this person is who's asking this question, right? It's tough for us to be certain without me actually really having more information. Like what have you been doing for the last year, two, three years, and what is your programming nutrition looks like?

But a lot of people think just because, yeah, let's say you have maps, like, say you have maps red, like you have maps red, which is a great program, and you were following some carb cycling diet that works for you. But you've been doing that for the last three years, always, over and over and over and over and over after a while. Like, yeah, you're just because those bolts are...

Oh, even using cells in the example of like figuring out about histamines, you know, all of a sudden. Like, you know, you're doing everything right, like beforehand, but then you realize that this, you know, could be, you know, if you're introducing it too much, it could be problematic. And I'm different angle. My body gave me some signals.

And if I was hard headed and I'm like, no, this has always worked, keep going forward. Not gonna work, you're just gonna keep getting louder and louder signals that it's not gonna work. So you just gotta listen to, look, here's the deal. When it comes to programming, let's start with that. When it comes to programming, there's this wide breadth or this big category of things that can contribute

towards your goal. So let's say your goal is to build muscle. OK, your maximum goal is build muscle. What rep ranges build muscle? Most of them, most of them will build muscle on your body if it's a new stimulus. And when I say most, I mean under like the crazy, like under 30 reps or under 25 reps, right?

All those muscle building ranges, like one to five reps, you know, eight to 12, whatever. Take what you're programming is now and go in a different one. So if you're training 15 reps on everything or 12 reps on everything, try a few weeks of, you know, one to five reps, or if you're always one to five reps,

try the 15 reps for a few weeks. So there you go right there. All of them contribute to building muscle, but they're very different, so change it that way. Nutrition, here's another example. Let's say you've always eaten keto, and it just works great for you. Now, if I said, God, when I go keto,

I can't get that lean or whatever. Just try eating some carbs, throw some carbs in there. Don't go crazy, but you know, throw some carbs in there. See how your body responds, mix it up a little bit, and see what happens. Whatever you're doing isn't working anymore, and it's not because of what you're doing in the sense that it's the same thing that you've always been doing. It's that you're applying it to a different body, different circumstances, different set of circumstances, in which case time to try

something different. That's the- Also good to look at other factors that we haven't really touched on too, because I've seen stuff like this where someone is doing really good programming, doing all the right things, but then stress and sleep is fucking,

just happens to be bad in their life right now. And they think, oh, I'm doing the same stuff. Right, right, like they have this big, like emotional thing that happened, that they lost a family member or gone through a divorce, or something really, really stressful on their life And they're kind of carrying that burden and then maybe they're not sleeping very well or their job But they've got a new new stimulus mentally there people don't realize how much that could really affect the results that you're used to getting

You know, maybe before you were in a much better mental physical state going into this programming and nutrition and this time That's out of whack. And so you've got to evaluate some of those things too. So there's many variables that could be going into the causing this person to not see the results that they're used to, but it is more common than you think. And this is also why all the program, this is why the super bundle is probably the most popular bundle that we sell because we've tried to hammer home, the hammer home, the importance of rotating through different adaptations.

It's just, even though we know that we've sectioned them to market to a specific type of person, like performance is supposed to go towards an athlete. But that doesn't mean that if you're just an average Joe who doesn't want to play sports, you shouldn't do performance. Performance is a type of adaptation that you should incorporate into your training If you want to continue to see progression and results that would be a great thing

So if you're somebody who has one of the maps programs and you're following it because you most identified with that one Because you heard south say maps and a bulk is heavily strength-based or a great foundational program So now you're following that because you think you fall in that You fall it over and over and over again. It's like no go the performance one. Even if you don't think of yourself as an athlete, or the same thing goes for the aesthetic, like even if you don't care that much about aesthetics, doesn't mean that that modality or that adaptation is not going to highly benefit you.

So you should be constantly cycling. You should, and this is a lesson that I have been taught so many times in my fitness career. So many times, well, I do something new or try something and it works and then I marry it. And I'm stuck on it and I'm like, this is what works, I'm just gonna do this. And it's like, I have to get to the point

where it's so painfully obvious, we're like, oh wow. Not only does not work anymore, I'm going backwards. Then I have to kind of change out of it. Luckily, I'm open-minded enough to do so. But I learned this lesson. I mean, early on when I first started lifting, I was doing ridiculous amounts of volume. So then I read Mike Mencer's heavy duty

and I was like, oh, one set to failure, pro body part, try that. And then I did that, and of course, my body responded. So what do you think I did forever until I learned that lesson? Then I did that. And then I, so many times, have I learned that lesson in my life where it's like, look,

when your body's telling It's not working anymore switch it up change it out watch what happens throw something different at your body and that Backward slide should oh the sun can get ahead of it, you know the the more likely you're gonna keep progressing So yeah, you just have to be open minded to that and you know it out. Next question is from my Fit Food Diary. How should one begin introducing calories after prolonged restriction without the fear of gaining too much fat? Oh, this is a good question that we just addressed with Lane. What's a Lane episode go up?

Sunday. Oh, so this is cool. So this goes right before and then the Lane episode. So we get into some, should we get in a little bit more. He brought up some new science that I've done a little bit of reading on, which is fucking fascinating. So here's the deal, here's how it works. And they did this with animals,

and they think this is what's happening with humans as well. When you go on a diet, when you restrict your calories or go on a calorie deficit, you actually lose body fat. Obviously, and what happens is your fat cells shrink. Now we used to think that there are only a few times in life when you can actually add the number of fat cells to your body. One of them is during puberty, another one would be during the third trimester of pregnancy, a woman might add fat cells, you know, when you're a baby or whatever.

But other than that, it was pretty much believed that your fat cells just grew in shrank and that was it and you didn't add more fat cells to your body. But what they found was, is when they put animals on calorie restriction, fat cells shrink and then if they re-feat they started feeding them a lot right away, the body will gain that weight back.

So let's say the mouse lost 10 grams of body weight. They gave them more food, got their body weight up to 10 grams, but it wasn't through the fat cells growing. It was from adding new fat cells. And then what happens is those fat cells that would then try and reach the old size that they were before. So they gained an additional 2 grams or whatever.

So this is fascinating, because this is telling us, this concept of severe restriction and then binging, and the reason why so many people find it harder to get lean after they continue doing the cycle, and we see this in competitors all the time, or they restrict themselves, get super shredded, then post-competition, they bingee. And then they do this two, three, four times, all of a sudden they're like, I can't get lean like I used to, it's because you may be adding the number of fat cells to your body, you may be making it more difficult. Now, evolutionarily speaking, this makes sense

because what your body's trying to do is improve upon its ability to capture all these calories, capture energy. So that way the next time a famine comes, you're even more likely to succeed. So the best way to reintroduce, and the cool thing about this is we've been giving the right advice all along before we even knew the science.

Right. The thing that I would, I used to always say, and now is even strengthened, even more from this new studies is reintroduce calories slowly. That's how you prevent lots of fat gain. Like don't go for meeting 1200 calories to 2500 calories right off the gates. Increase it by 150 or 100 or 50 even.

And little by little increase the calories on a week by week basis and monitor your body. That'll prevent the addition of fat cells to your body. And you'll gain muscle. That there wasn't like definitive, as far as like being able to get rid of those new fat cells like, if it didn't happen. They don't know if that even happens.

That even happens, yeah, right? No, they don't even know. So you maybe stuck with these new fat cells. So that's, I mean, that's alarming. So personally, what I like to do is I like to use either rice or I like to use sweet potato. I find that's just really easy for me to measure and to control. And I like to, I like to structure either rice or I like to use sweet potato I find that's just really easy for me to measure and to control and I like to I like to structure it around my workout

So if I'm on a reverse diet, which was something that I'd be on after every single show because I just depleted myself Came all the way down and I'd have to reintroduce calories. Hello, would your calories get by the way? The lowest I would ever act I spent 2200 okay, yeah, that would be really low for me when I was competing. Now, the irony is now that, to me, now is a very normal place to be. It's not a dieting place because I have way less lean body mass on me today than I do did just two years ago. So back then, my metabolism was roaring.

I was eating 4500 to 5,000 calories just to maintain my size. So 2200 was really low. I mean, that was like when I was getting into my final week, right? So I would tailor off anywhere from 500 to 1,000 calories or so and just start chipping away like every week as I would get closer into my show and then increasing my neat.

And then post show, I would start to reintroduce the calories and I would again use sweet potato or rice and just just personal preference for me There are two things that I was you know making a lot of and bulk those I it's easy for me to make sweet potatoes and white rice and bulk It's easy for me to weigh and measure those and go okay I was getting four ounces before now. I'm getting six ounces now. I'm getting eight ounces and I would try and add for me 50 to 75 calories worth of carbohydrates around my workouts. So pre or post workout and I would slowly do that.

And I'd watch it so I'd pick a number whether it'd be 50 to 70, I'd add it in every single day around my workouts, I'd monitor my weight, I'd monitor the way I look, I'd monitor everything for about a week. And as long as I felt that I wasn't aggressively adding weight, I would pretty much do that almost every week. And because I had a pretty healthy metabolism,

I could do every week I was increasing my calories. Now this is a hard question to answer specific numbers like that, this is why I'm using my... So different from person. That's why I'm using myself as an example, so some people can try and give maybe give themselves a baseline from that, because every client that I've trained, we've had different experiences. I've had some female clients.

I've been able to give them 100 plus calories almost every single week and I keep adding and adding. I remember Rachelle, Rachelle when I was coaching her, when she was competing, man, she came up. She came to me when we first met and it was over her training with a bad trainer before that was trying to starve her body. And so we had kind of rebuilt her metabolism. And once we had rebuilt it and it was thriving, it was nuts. I was like feeding her more calories, more calories pumping more and

more calories to where we were pushing her up to 3,000 calories for and you've seen her, she's petite, you know, she's like 115 pound female. She doesn't weigh a lot at all. So everyone's going to be very different. And then I've had clients that are guys that have competed in many, many shows and they've kind of fucked their metabolism a little bit. And I give them a little bit over and then their body starts to add body fat. So, and then there's the other thing too, as you got to, and we talk about this with Lane is, you know, if you're okay in this reverse diet with adding a little bit of body fat,

it's okay. You know, since it's not a big deal, if you're adding calories and with adding a little bit of body fat. It's okay, you know, since it's not a big deal if you're adding calories and you put a little bit of body fat on the way, it's more likely you're gonna do that. It's tough to be supposed. Especially if you were shredded to go into it. Exactly, it's actually what you want. Yeah, it's actually probably healthy for you

to put a little bit of body fat. I'm just looking for me as I'm looking at competitors or I'm looking at myself. I'm trying to make sure that most of it's not body fat. Like I wouldn't wanna be adding so many calories that I'm adding fat, like faster than I'm adding any sort of muscle or anything. Yeah, I mean, the right answer is just slowly.

Take your time. And we know now why it's a bad idea, just from a scientific standpoint, to just binge and force feed yourself, or not even force feed yourself, just go crazy with nutrition nutrition right after a restriction. It may set you up for a more difficult process in the future. So just slowly scale up.

If you are another thing that I've used as a strategy, so I use myself as an example with the rice and the sweet potatoes, I've also flipped that with different people who are who have a challenge. They're like they are great. They have major cravings and they're coming out. Those people I tend to use fat as the calories that I'm, where I'm going to get my calories from because it tends to satiate them a little bit more. So, you know, that's another thing that, again, there's no like rule, like, oh, you should

use this or only use that. And I, you'll hear us talk to Lane about this a little bit because everyone is so unique and different. If you're struggling to where it's like, oh my God, I'm hungry all the time, maybe fat would be a better choice than actually using something like carbohydrate. Next question is from Andrew Rife PT.

What are the best tips and tricks you guys learned in terms of client retention? What do we learn? Is learned to word? I believe it is. I believe it is. So past tense of learn. I think a strategy that not a lot of trainers do that I used to teach my trainers was to teach them to be planning the seeds and setting up for the resign well before

they're even due for that. A very common mistake that I found in leading trainers for a very long time was most of them, trained were great trainers, they loved learning about nutrition, they loved programming, they loved working their clients out, they hated selling, so they waited until it was time to resign. Like the last session of that.

Yeah, the last session to bring up this awkward conversation and this was a challenge, this is very, very common with trainers. And so one of the things that I would teach my trainers to make this easier on yourself is to be setting the close up, say a day one. Let's say somebody just buys five sessions or 10 sessions. I'm not only am I coaching them on their body right now

and talking about what they're going through and the workout, but I'm also talking about our future together. And I do it in what we call an assumption close. I just assume if you're training with me, because 80% of my clients train with me forever, that was my attitude, and I carried myself that way, that because the way I looked at it is 80% of my people

needed me forever because most of them had so much to work on, whether it be psychologically or physically or nutritionally, that I could provide value in those three areas pretty much for lifetime for most of these people. So I had that attitude. So day one, I'm already talking about what we're going to be doing in weeks eight and weeks twelve. You're always constantly communicating what you're going to be doing next with them and you have a plan for them and here's what it looks like and you're painting that picture

the entire time you're meeting with them and you have a plan for them and here's what it looks like and you're painting that picture the entire time you're meeting with them. That's always been a go-to for me and it just drives conversation and then it gets real time updates as far as what their struggles are and how you can kind of help them with that process and maybe we do a deeper dive in nutrition, this next month and really tackle these issues issues. And, you know, whatever, like you're just, you're opening up that conversation. So it's constantly getting them to think ahead, like, oh, wow. Okay, so I'm going to work on that next and we're going to do this. And then you don't even have to talk about, like you said, it's the assumption. It's like, they all know me.

They'll say, well, I'll sign now. Many times I'd have people say, like, well, I only have five sessions with you. What am I supposed to do with them? Well,, don't worry and they'll do it take away close Don't worry about it when we get closer to the end of your sessions We'll talk about the different options that you have for continuing along with me And then you just keep going back to doing your job really really well like and explaining to them the things that you're going to be doing But having a plan as a trainer early on you know your job when you do a really good assessment, right? And this is again, this is why prime was created.

You know, you have this great assessment tool that you use with your client to find all about their body and all the things that you need to do for them. And now you have a plan like, okay, this person should be working on these imbalances for X amount of time. And then this is what we're going to be doing nutritionally to help rebuild their metabolism for X amount of time. And then we're going to transition into more of their goal focused on for this amount of time.

And you have a plan. So sit down as a trainer, really map out what you would do with this client if they already had a hundred sessions with you and what would that look like. And then you just start as you're training them, you're talking as if they already bought the hundred sessions. So that will lead them to ask the buying question of, well, I don't have any more sessions. Or, what do I do after these?

Like, oh, don't worry, we'll get to that. These were all, I mean, there were different levels of learning that I had to go through to learn how to continue to retain clients. What we're talking about now is kind of the early stages of learning how to talk about being with me later on. Talk about the plan and the future early on and are working together. So people knew, you know, 10 sessions in,

five sessions in, two sessions in, what it would look like later on as we're working together. Figure out different goals, figure out different tasks, talk about those things and how we're going to continue working. Then later on, I learned how to become the maven or the person that that person would come to when they didn't want to work out. That was a big learning period for me later on.

And what I mean by this, by the way, is early on in my career, if a client stayed with me for a year, that was a long time because I was a new trainer and a year seemed like forever. And a year is a long time to have a client compared to the average. Then later on, I'd have clients that would stay with me for two or three years, which is sounds like an eternity.

Then later on, I'd have clients that stay with me in the same people, right, who'd stay with me for 10 years or 12 years or longer. And there's different levels of learning that entire time. The second stage was learning how to be that person that they want to come to when they don't want to work out. Like a beginner trainer, a client would call them

and say, my shoulder hurts, I'm really tired. My back hurts, I have to reschedule this appointment. Well, if you get to the point where your client calls you and says, hey, you know, hey, Sal, listen, I know we're not scheduled to work out today, but my back really hurts. Can I come in so you can help me out? Now you've reached another level.

So then when my client started calling me for that, that's when I reached the two year and three years of staying with clients. The next level from there was when I got to the point where I could create an environment where my clients were working out for the sake of working out. It was no longer to work out for a goal. It was no longer because I need to lose,

I mean, you're trained somewhere for 12 years. Like, they're gonna be trying to lose 30 pounds for the first six months to a year. After that, are they gonna be still trying? Are they still gonna be trying to get better shape? Are they still gonna be trying better performance? Some of them will, but a lot of them at that point now are working out for the sake of working out.

They're working out because they enjoy the time. That took me a long time. I felt very insecure about that because I always felt like I had to produce and I had to get them results and I always had to get them. So we got to a certain point where a year would go by and I'm like, well, did I do my best with them for that year? I was very hypercritical of the whole process of that and then I just realized they literally are working out and progressing at a know, at a gradual pace, but they're enjoying the entire process

and I have to be happy about that. Look, if you want someone to have long-term success with fitness, then you have to get them to a point where they work out for the sake of the workout. Like, it's the way I work out. Like, when I'm working out, yeah, there's goals sometimes, and I want to get to a certain place. But most of the time I'm working out because I enjoy the actual work out itself. I'm doing it for the sake of doing it. And if you can get your clients to that point, then now they're they're going to be with you for a long time. Now how do you do that? Well,

you create a good relationship with exercise where yes, initially it's about goals and there are targets and I can help you when you hurt, but it's also about enjoying the process. It's also about enjoying being here with me because let's be honest. When I'm a cool guy, client, clients would be with me. If clients are going to be with me for, you know, between one to three days a week. So this is how my clients schedule look. I'd have clients that were with me on average, between one to three days a week for an hour, for 12 years, like these people are sitting and talking with me and hanging out with me and working out with me or suspending more time with me

than they are with most people in their lives. Especially if I worked out with them three days a week. How many people in their life do you think did they actually sit down and have good conversation and good undivided attention with for three hours out of their entire week? Not very many. Look at what we do with Mind Pump, right? We come out and we try and build trust and authority and education, right? So we

lead with that. And so we build your trust, you know, we win you over. Now let's get into the specifics. Well, that's like, that's a good hour. We're going to get into lifestyle. Your first goal before selling them should be getting them to understand what they really need for themselves, because 90% of the people that are gonna sit down with you don't even realize what they really need. They're there because they're still driven by their insecurities of whatever that may be, whether they're too fat, they're too skinny,

not enough muscle, too much muscle, whatever, not fast enough, too short. They have all these insecurities that's driving them to purchase training from you. You need to understand that. And my goal is first to get to the root cause of what drives you in here and then get you to understand what you actually need for long-term success before I sell you any more personal training.

And so I think letting people know I used to do this a lot too when they tell me what their goal was, I would tell them like, oh, that's so easy. Your goal is easy. You know, I mean, getting you to lose 20 pounds or getting you to build 10 pounds of muscle, that's a simple formula. It's math. I love math.

That's really easy for me to do that. That's not what, but the problem is, if you want to be somebody who reaches their goal and then learns to maintain that for the rest of their life, so you feel good about where you're at forever, well, that takes a little bit more of a process. And part of that process is us getting to the bottom of what really drives you to be in shape

or what causes you to fall out of shape. And that's what I'm really gonna help you get to. Now, when I get somebody to understand that and understand that reaching the goal is actually really easy once we figure that piece out, then I've got you. You know what I'm saying? Then we can sell train.

Yeah, early on it's about getting to your goals. Later on it's about just enjoying it, just enjoying the process, enjoying the workout, enjoying the time that they're there with you. I'll tell you what, you find me any trainer who has clients who's with them for longer than three years, and I'll show you clients who just like to meet with that trainer and work out with them.

That's what they're doing at that point. Like three years later, really what goals are you after, unless you constantly change your goals and you're one of those maniacs which are pretty rare. For the most part, that person's there because they enjoy spending that time with the trainer, they enjoy that time, they enjoy the workout itself. And that's kind of the space you wanna be in.

And so, and think about it this way. Like, and I'll tell you what, I don't train anybody anymore. I do some coaching online, but I don't do any personal training. All the clients that I had who trained with me for eight, nine, ten, twelve years, every single one of them now, they haven't trained with me for at least two years.

All of them, guess what they're still doing. They're still working out. They have developed a relationship with the workout to where they enjoy the workout itself. And when you can get to that place, well now it's fucking, now it's not a problem at all. to where they enjoy the workout itself. And when you can get to that place, well now it's fucking, now it's not a problem at all. So here's, I mean, the other part of it is this,

like you gotta be a likable person, or at least have, be likable with your client. Like, maybe that's better advice. It is. Likeable person. Yeah. Well, I mean, look, I'll tell you what, you know what clients didn't stay with the client?

It'd be a great, you could be a boring inducing. You could be a great trader all you want, but if nobody's fucking likes you, trainer all you Love here. I'll tell you what I can tell you that's true I can tell you the trainers. I can always tell you the trainers who will not have clients for a long time The ones to look at their phone constantly besides the obvious stuff I can tell you the dedicated trainer who's not gonna have clients that's gonna stay with them for a long time You know which one's gonna be the one that beats the crap out of the client and every time they work out. The one that's always focused on goals. You know what I mean? Like, oh, come in here.

We're gonna make you sweat. We're gonna make you work out so hard. And every client loves that trainer for about three to six months. Sometimes the ones that are too smart for their own good are have a hard time also. Because they're so concerned about being right and then instead of really helping people.

And that does, and you gotta understand that many, many people don't even know that they don't know yet. And so if you're so concerned about being right and being smart that you're, when you talk to your clients, you talk to them that way, you're gonna turn away fucking 80, 90% of the people. That's very, very common.

I had many PhDs, masters that worked for me that I had to fire and let go because they could never connect these dots because they were so proud of themselves for all the schooling and education that they had. They were so, and they cared more about that than they actually cared about the person sitting across from them. That comes off. It comes off when you're that person who cares more about being right and being smart

than you care about leading to these people to them. Yeah, if you can show that you really deeply care about that person, that's where the connection is. I mean, it's as simple as that. Dude, do you know how many times I've had, because I've done this for so long, right? It's happened quite a few times. We're client will call me and be like, Hey, man, I didn't get good sleep last night or I feel,

you know, I'm really stressed out or this is what's happening and I don't really want to feel like working out. And then I'd say, look, John, come in. Here's what we're going to do. I'm going to take you through some stretches. We're going to do some mile fashion release. and I don't really want to feel like working out. And then I'd say, look, John, come in. Here's what we're gonna do. I'm gonna take you through some stretches. We're gonna do some mile fashion release and I might do some mobility work with you.

Or sometimes a client would walk in and look at them and be like, you don't want to be here. I'd be honest with them, like, you don't want to be here right now, they'd be like, you know, I don't have the energy to work out. And I'll say, I'll tell you what, why don't we do this? Let me take you through some light mobility work. I'm gonna work on your shoulders a little bit.

And then let's go for a walk outside for 30 minutes. And let's just do some stuff outside. And they would love it. And sometimes we would just fucking walk. Sometimes, and you know what's funny? When I first started doing that, I would think to myself, like, oh man, I feel bad, like they're paying me to go with them on a walk. You know what I would get instead?

They'd be like, you know what? Thank you so much. I got to do some activity. I appreciate you taking me out on a walk. You know what I would get instead? They'd be like, you know what, thank you so much. Like I got to do some activity. I appreciate you taking me out on a walk. I really wasn't feeling like a hard workout right now. Feeling kind of tires rest out. I really appreciate the fact that you had me walk because they're just happy that they got to do some activity, but they enjoyed it with you and whatever. And it was more appropriate. And then these people would just, they'd stay forever. And they'd continue forever after you're done training with them.

And I think that's the key to being a real successful trainer for your clients. So check this out. A lot of people don't know that we're on Instagram and we have different information on our Instagram. If you want to see Sal's sexist memes, make sure you go check out Mind Pump Sal. Mind Pump Sal.

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