Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 826: Little Known Ways to Get the Body to Change, What to do Between Sets, the Value of Squat Pads & MORE

Episode Date: August 1, 2018

Organifi Quah! In this episode of Quah, sponsored by Organifi (organifi.com/mindpump, code "mindpump" for 20% off), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about if you should sit and stand betw...een sets, if changing variables like time of day, location, amount of sleep, calories consumed per workout also have some sort of positive adaptation effect on the body, whether squat pads should be used and what to do in an economic downturn. What are the longest running sitcoms? The guys share their personal favorites. (4:52) Games that were designed for boys and girls to flirt with one another. The guys talk M.A.S.H., Red Rover, Steal the Bacon & MORE. (9:30) What things would you do to get a girls attention? The guys share personal stories for their younger years. (15:38) The funny things you find while packing to move. Adam shares the “wallet inserts” from his high school years. (18:58) Mind Pump most memorable photos. (21:25) The growing pains of getting older. The guys share personal stories of puberty and body parts growing at different speeds. (25:21) Mind Pump Weekend Update: Adam and Catrina on the move. Who is the better interior decorator? (29:03) Do musicals invoke more emotion than a normal film? Sal and Jessica see Mamma Mia 2 and enjoy a hike in Morgan Hill, CA. (41:32) Justin building up his new “at home” squat rack. (46:05) Mind Pump HQ getting the hook up with a new Joovv light with Wi-Fi settings. (47:51) The healthiest way to travel…Organifi Green Juice coming in clutch. (49:44) #Quah question #1 – During rest periods during your workouts, should you sit or stand? (52:03) #Quah question #2 - Would changing variables like time of day, location, amount of sleep, calories consumed per workout also have some sort of positive adaptation effect on the body? (1:00:33) #Quah question #3 - Squat pads, yay or nay? (1:07:44) #Quah question #4 - What to do in an economic downturn? (1:16:15) People Mentioned: Bishop Robert Barron (@BishopBarron)  Twitter Andy Galpin (@drandygalpin)  Instagram Enzo Coglitore (@enzocog)  Instagram Related Links/Products Mentioned: What are the longest-running TV sitcoms of all time? Uvas Canyon County Park - Parks and Recreation Joovv **$25 off purchase** Organifi **Code “mindpump” for 20% off** Maps Prime Pro Bundle - Mind Pump Effect of a gluteal activation warm-up on explosive exercise performance Manta Ray by Advanced Fitness, Squat Load Distribution Device Back Squat: Why you NEVER want to use a Bar Pad + Best Bar Position for Back Squats Mind Pump FREE Resources – Everything You Need to Know to Reach Your Fitness Goals Get our newest program, MAPS Split, an expertly programmed and phased muscle building and sculpting program designed to get your body stage ready. This is an advanced program and is not recommended for beginners. Get it at www.mapssplit.com! Get MAPS Prime, MAPS Anywhere, MAPS Anabolic, MAPS Performance, MAPS Aesthetic, the Butt Builder Blueprint, the Sexy Athlete Mod AND KB4A (The MAPS Super Bundle) packaged together at a substantial DISCOUNT at www.mindpumpmedia.com.   Would you like to be coached by Sal, Adam & Justin? You can get 30 days of virtual coaching from them for FREE at www.mindpumpmedia.com. Get our program, MAPS HIIT, an expertly programmed and phased High Intensity Interval Training program designed to maximize fat burn and improve conditioning. Get it at www.mindpumpmedia.com! Make EVERY workout better with MAPS Prime, the only pre-workout you need… it is now available at mindpumpmedia.com Have Sal, Adam & Justin personally train you via video instruction on our YouTube channel, Mind Pump TV. Be sure to Subscribe for updates.   Please subscribe, rate and review this show! Each week our favorite reviewers are announced on the show and sent Mind Pump T-shirts! Have questions for Mind Pump? Each Monday on Instagram (@mindpumpmedia) look for the QUAH post and input your question there. (Sal, Adam & Justin will answer as many questions as they can)

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Starting point is 00:00:26 I didn't know lassie. See if our form is going on. Our form will get going on. Let's see what everybody's favorite. For sure, Seinfeld is my ultimate favorite. One of the best ones. We talk about Red Rover, the game that we played as kids, since Al ride over.
Starting point is 00:00:40 That allowed us to touch the opposite sex. Yeah. We talk about steal the baconons and other banned games. These are games that we don't do anymore because we want our kids to be massive whims. We talk about elementary school poise to get girls attention. These are all the tricks that we used in fourth grade
Starting point is 00:00:57 to try to get girls a pay attention to us. I burned a girl's hair. Fail school photos. He did, he actually did burn a girl's hair. And she definitely noticed him. We talk about Adam's move. He's got a move. And the new Juve light that we're getting, Juve light
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Starting point is 00:02:11 Which one's better? We have a little debate in that part of this episode. Next question was, we talk about how the body is an adaptation machine and how you should change your workouts and where to get your body to continue changing. Should you change other variables in your life like the time of day you work out, where you work out, how much you sleep, out and order to get your body to continue changing. Should you change other variables in your life like
Starting point is 00:02:25 the time of day you work out, where you work out, how much you sleep, calories consumed, the person you have sex with, all these different things just getting that last one added myself. Should you change any of these in order to get your body to progress or change? The next question was squat pad. Is that a good thing to use or a bad thing to use? And the next question was squat pad. Is that a good thing to use or a bad thing to use? Hmm. And the next question was, some economists are predicting another economic crisis in the near future.
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Starting point is 00:04:47 Buffalo, beaver! Synthesis is like the first, like, before South Bargula Simpsons. More tame. Are they still making new episodes? The Simpsons? Yeah. That's the longest running series of all time, right?
Starting point is 00:04:58 Yeah, I think it's the most fun. It's been for, like, 10 years. It's been, like, the longest running series of all time. Yeah. How long has it been on air? 20, something years? Oh yeah, 20. They got to have like the most characters out of anything, right?
Starting point is 00:05:10 Like if you look at like a poster, I mean we're seeing a poster of all the characters in the Simpsons, it's like fills the entire wall. It's just really smart writing. How cool is that to be somebody who came up with that idea and then got, gets to write a cartoon for the rest of the night. So it originally aired 1989 Wow That's a long time man. That is a very long time. That's crazy, but it's great writing is what it is 89 is almost 30 years Yeah, yeah, that'll be 30 years next year actually Yeah, actually is 30 years. Yep. Yep. Dude, 30 years.
Starting point is 00:05:45 That's a few generations. You're straight into their own universe. Really? That's a huge deal. Talk about how much you have to... This is what I love stuff I've got to do because you see this with some businesses that it's rare too.
Starting point is 00:05:57 A lot of businesses, man, they just... They can't weather the storm. Same thing with artists. Artists, business, and like TV series and shows. It's really tough to same thing with artists, artists, business, and TV series and shows. It's really tough to break beyond like 10 years. It's like you, like people do a good job of like figuring out their niche. Once your audience outgrows you, then a lot of people are screwed. You have to really evolve all the time.
Starting point is 00:06:21 Well the advantage is that the Simpson has the biggest advantage. I can see is that they are a cartoon. Now, a lot of people thought that was a disadvantage, but they had such good writing that being a cartoon was an advantage because the characters never age. Yeah. You know, because that's, I mean, you do that with live, you do that with like a sick home. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:39 And they get old and you get the awkward teen, you know, years with the kids. Yeah. What do you do that? You know, what do you do? What are some of the longest running series that you can think of? Seinfeld Roseanne. Seinfeld was long. Seinfeld and friends used to be what used to be like one of the record.
Starting point is 00:06:54 Married with children was a long time too, right? Yeah. Was is married with you on that high? I think it was pretty good. So while maybe Doug, you can look up along this running sitcoms of all time. Yeah. I know Seinfeld's up there with them. I'm pretty sure Rosy. And even Seinfeld's only there. That was like 10, 15 years.
Starting point is 00:07:09 Like it's 30 years is crazy. It's not even close. Get the fuck out of here. Lassie and gun smoke. Lassie or the ones behind the Simpsons. See, look at no one else. That's all old shit, right? The newest is like,
Starting point is 00:07:24 does it show more than that? Yeah, if he clicks on the link I think because I think I mean let's watch some none of those are all those are up to 1975 and that's what's that boy? Timmy stuck in a long you know main and forth Order is another one. Never watch that. I never really got a lot of my- Dallas? Oh God, you know what I hate it fucking Dallas.
Starting point is 00:07:53 Do you know why we hated Dallas? Cause we were young kids when that shit came out and so our parents were watching, like, this is so poppera. Well, my grandmother watched a lot in order. That was the- Did she? Justin, can you do the theme song?
Starting point is 00:08:03 Or what's the, how does it, jump, jump? No, that's a different one. I don't know. I don't I don't remember it. I expect you to be able to do it. I know. Oh, I know. Oh, I see. Cheers. Oh, yeah. Cheers was another long one, right? That was a good one. All in the family, king of queens, how I met your mother, everybody. So seasons with or sitcoms with nine seasons. I guess that's the big. Oh, yeah. I don't know why I was cycle the top. I was like, we're cycle 11 seasons cheers Fragels grubs, man, children mash. Oh, you were right with Mary. We children. Yeah, happy days the Jefferson's which was great That was a great show Do you know I hate you know, I also hated mash couldn't fucking, because there was like TV shows that I could watch,
Starting point is 00:08:46 because this is what I was a young kid, right? And there were a few shows that I hated simply because it signified or symbolized, oh now I'm done watching TV. There was a soul train, which when that came on cartoons we talked about it on Saturdays. Yeah, and mash was the same thing too. Yeah, when mash came on, I was like,
Starting point is 00:09:03 oh man, oh the good shows are done. Oh the good shows are done. Yeah, I don't want to know more bullshit no more air wolf. I got to watch this shit All the depressing Teen song Airwolf is such a such a TV show that was like so unrealistic I mean we're police officers that pull out this $50 million a billion dollar helicopter. You're stealth helicopter. For random shit.
Starting point is 00:09:27 Do you guys remember that game, Mashed? Do you guys remember how to play that game? Oh, mansion apartment, shack, house. Was that the one where he like moves it shifts like this. Was that the little fortune? I don't know if he did with the kuchikacher or whatever you call this. That is what it was called. His called the kuchikacher.
Starting point is 00:09:43 Kuchikacher. Kuchikacher. Kuchikacher. Kuchikacher. Kuchiketcher or whatever you call this. That is what it was called. It's called the Kuchiketcher. Kuchiketcher. Kuchiketcher. Kuchiketcher. Kuchiketcher. Kuchiketcher. I think Adam was putting it on his hands. He's like, he's like, he's like,
Starting point is 00:09:52 he's like, come here, come here. Oh, hey. I thought it was called that. It wasn't called. Kuchiketcher. Kuchiketcher. Kuchiketcher. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:00 But it mashed was, so you were supposed to pick four things, right? So it was the mansion, the apartment, the shack shack or the house right and then remember this game and then there was like four you I forget how this worked man this was I know somebody in our form will remember this and they will they'll post this was a got a game designed specifically for boys and girls to float with each other before we knew what to do totally you know what I mean so like you would go up to a girl that you kind of like this This is like fourth grade.
Starting point is 00:10:25 You'd be like, hey, do you want to play, you know, I do mash or whatever? It's like, yeah, that's the way you talk to her. No, the best game of all time for like, flirty stuff awkward. Like, ah, you're a hot girl, but I don't know what to do. Like, it's called like, honey, I love you, but I just can't smile.
Starting point is 00:10:40 And so you sit in this chair and they're supposed to like, try and make you smile. And inevitably they end up like giving you a dance. Oh my God. Yeah. The games are you guys playing out of country. That's what always happened. It was always like, try like take a U or this or that and then like, what the hell are you playing?
Starting point is 00:10:58 Maybe I was just around. I was always free women. So you guys never played Poke Poke? You guys ever played just a tip? That's some country games out there. No, I'll tell you the game that everybody played. Here's a game that everybody played and it was a way for you to To be able to like touch each other, but it not be awkward and that was Red Rover. Oh
Starting point is 00:11:23 Remember that river, river, river, and then you didn't do it. St. Sal on over. Yeah, and you're all, but this is a game now that's banned, by the way, you guys know this right? Yeah, so it was still the bacon. Yeah, remember, still the bacon, same thing. It's still the bacon ban? Yes, I love closing people.
Starting point is 00:11:36 And dodgeball, all those things. Well, I know why dodgeball is, because you're blasting each other, but why is still the bacon? Because kids getting hurt, man. It's so funny to think about it. From still the bacon? Yeah, you remember two kids go after it at the same time.
Starting point is 00:11:46 Head, head for a city. We did red rover. Red rover was real asphalt. Yeah. And kids fell. Well, they're head. So that's false. So we need to tell the audience, because it's crazy.
Starting point is 00:11:57 No, what this is. So what you do is you have two sides. And many times it was girls versus boys. This is how you flirted. So the girls are on one side and they form a line and they hold hands as strong and tight as they can. So they form this big line. And the guys form a line on the other side.
Starting point is 00:12:12 Now sometimes it was mixed up in co-ed but sometimes it was boys and girls. And then what you do is your side decides who they're gonna call over. And you say, so you say, Red Rover, Rover, Rover, we call Jennifer right over. And her goal is to run through the line and break through the hands.
Starting point is 00:12:27 And so inevitably you'd like hold your hands and they should run through it. Oh, we're accidentally hugging you or whatever. But the thing, the way we play, it was much more fun. Well, this is the thing, the girls could never break through the line of the guys, right? The guys, we didn't know how to flirt back then properly.
Starting point is 00:12:44 So we're like, I'm just gonna show these girls how strong I am. Yeah, he just fucking barrels through. What was the purpose of the game? That that was part of how you played it, but how did you win? You remember? Nothing you have the most people or if you don't break through, then you have to join their line. Yeah. So eventually has the most people in their line. Yeah. So if you run and you break through, then you get to pull someone over. If you don't break through, then you have to steal the bacon was much more straightforward. Yeah. This is back when games naturally selected the strongest kids. You know what I mean? I'm actually. Yeah. There was no like if you sucked at it, you sucked at it. Yeah. That's just that's just life. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:24 You know, there's no like crack corner for you to go it, you sucked at it. That's just life. No, there's no like crack corner for you to go fucking, you know, complain about. I remember, God, this just made me remember something terrible when I was a kid. I feel so bad now. There was this really, because I'm thinking right now, these games, I'm thinking of all the kids that would have a tough time.
Starting point is 00:13:37 And it was usually the really awkward, you know, kind of not very athletic type of kids or whatever. But I do remember playing softball ones. It must have been fifth grade, and there was this really nerdy girl with these big old glasses, poor girl. She was so sweet or whatever, and I'm in the outfield, they hit the ball,
Starting point is 00:13:54 ground ball, I pick it up, and I was trying to include her in the game. So I throw the ball at her. She wasn't even paying attention. Oh, no. Oh, yeah. Oh, gosh. She wasn't even paying attention, dude. Blast her right in the face.
Starting point is 00:14:04 I was just joking. She did that to people. She didn't even paying attention dude blasted a right in the face I burned some girls hair so I'm you know I'm purpose though. I did on accident. Yeah That's true you little chicks hair on fire. Yeah, I mean out I get bored like in class. Bro, that's a terrible excuse. I know, she was right in front of me. I don't know. I was like a pyro when I was like a kid, you know? Like I had like a little like lighter and I was so stoked on this little lighter I got from like Chinatown.
Starting point is 00:14:36 It was like one of Zippo ones. Yeah. And I'm just like ch ch ch ch doing that whole thing where you're taking the cap off, cap off like hitting it, hitting like this. Yeah. And then I just saw her here that I grabbed like a piece of, you started lighting it. I didn't even think about it.
Starting point is 00:14:49 I didn't think about what I was doing. And it was not flammable at all. Yeah, and like, started smoking. I was like, oh, I see like, like I hit it real. Anyway, she turned around and was really mad and I got in trouble. But yeah, that's how old are you and that, I was probably like fourth grade or something. Oh wow. This is, this is the kind of shit that if you did that today in fourth grade, they would call your parents.
Starting point is 00:15:07 Oh, that would be a big old big old deal. I posted it just a little shit. I posted it in my Insta story in my high school picture. I saw that. I got a bunch of people, random people that go to like Oakdale and that live out there and they're like, what? You're from there and I'm like, oh, that's so funny. I forget we haven't talked about that on the shit.
Starting point is 00:15:24 Had a hat on and everything. Yeah, they're cute. Is that same? Yeah, a little fadoria. Little chair of face. Yeah. You're young little chair of face. So awesome.
Starting point is 00:15:33 So awesome. Yeah, that's my brother when he was a kid, he had a crush on a girl and he was in maybe fourth or fifth grade. Had a huge crush on this girl and was kind of teasing her or whatever like you do. She was running to line because the bell rang and he thought it would be fun to trip her because he thought it would be hilarious. She fell and broke both arms.
Starting point is 00:15:52 Oh my God. Both arms. Okay, laugh at that. Both arms. So then she had to come to school with her arms and the task like this where they're up. No. And so for like three months, he had to do all of her work for her. That was his punishment. The worst part about this is this girl
Starting point is 00:16:07 ended up growing up to be this gorgeous model that it continues till this day to have a crush on. And he's gonna be so mad when he hears this. But she, but their friends, and I tell, I mess with them, I'm always like, she will never like you. No matter what you do. With her arms, bro.
Starting point is 00:16:23 That was a traumatizing experience for her. Like, what is that? I used to try and get the girls attention by throwing stuff at them. Like, totally a horrible idea. You're not going to win them over by just pestering them. No, not at all. But when you're like a boy, you don't really know what to do yet.
Starting point is 00:16:40 The ultimate was this. How about this? This is the ultimate thing that I love so much because then you know the girls are like pulling on you and pushing it when they try to force you in the girls bathroom or they try to force you remember that remember when girls are like put him in the book girls bathroom he like no all these girls are pushing you actually you're fighting yeah oh what's up what's going on wait a second you were so much stronger at red rover just a minute ago oh no I can't overcome the two of you. We were, you know what we did?
Starting point is 00:17:07 Like the excuse to touch it. Now we put it, put it somewhere of the girl's bathroom. They're like, oh, you must be a, I don't know assuming a different. I don't know kids do this, still, or not, but when we were in middle school, the way you were like flirting with a girl was,
Starting point is 00:17:21 it was like hugs. It was hugs on the way out, right? So, that's middle school for sure. Between classes, between, it was like hugs. It was hugs on the way out, right? So. Oh, that's middle school for a girl. Right, between classes. Between, on the way home. Yeah, on the way home. Like, in excuse of like hugging a girl. Yeah, hugging a girl goodbye.
Starting point is 00:17:34 It was like, so you hugged every chick goodbye. It was like, yeah, it's a boy. You know how funny that is now? It's an adult. If I saw some kid doing that, I'd be like, get the fuck out of here with that shit. You need to hug everybody because you're going to the bathroom dude Weird overly friendly
Starting point is 00:17:52 She'll see you at the third period you know, it's funny people there's still I am not gonna say who or where Cuz I know you guys are gonna but there's adult people that do that also I know where you show you every, oh no, we're huggers. And it's like, oh, guys, I have a meeting. Hug, hug, hug. Yeah, I kind of laughed. There was this guy in Santa Cruz that had set up a little table and like a chair, and he was just like free hugs. And like, I'll listen to you.
Starting point is 00:18:19 Like, that's like his whole, which I think is great. You know, that's a great thing, but it was, I was just laughing because like people would take him up on that and think is great. That's a great thing, but I was just laughing because people would take him up on that and they'd just be sitting there hugging it out, sitting down and talking. And I was like, I guess it's really rare. You know, once you're a kid, you know,
Starting point is 00:18:36 and it's like you just hug people. Yeah, because for sure, when you're in middle school, I'm pretty sure Adam, you weren't hugging your guy friends when you'd leave school. No, that's not. That's not that. That's not that. You're hugging all the girls. When guys hug, it's kind of like a, like you have to be a little tough with it.
Starting point is 00:18:51 You know what I mean? Like you kind of hug and then hit the back. So I was moving this weekend, right? So I'm going through like our past. I was finding like, I found a box of like photos dude that like all my like, when I was really young, right? And one of the things that was super popular that I forgot about that was, you know,
Starting point is 00:19:10 in this box is I had all my wallet inserts back when it was really popular to keep pictures. Pictures of all girls. All girls. I was saying like all cheer leaders. Oh, I would you have pics of your friends. Like your guy friends. I was looking at it and I'm like, this is is so funny and I remember I grow friends at the time too
Starting point is 00:19:27 But it was still like you you collected all it is many hot chicks as you could get It's like you got your you got your collection of like baseball cards and football cards And you got your girls, you know, and I was trying to I was trying to figure out like what is it about that? But then I remember like okay, well, it was like a commodity Because you know every kid that got pictures in high school and middle school You know your parents bought like a package, you know, it was like pictures Or a city yeah, like definitely and let over something like 12 like today where it's fucking pictures Yeah, yeah, you get like 12 photos. So you know this you got one right if you got one of the hot chicks
Starting point is 00:20:03 12 photos. That's a big deal You don't stand a status it was and so the fact that you can show it to your buddy and you'd be like dude You got fucking yeah You got Jennifer Smith Yeah, they were cool Nobody can't take it it slow nowadays imagine if you did that nowadays dude showing your friend your phone Like why do you have Jennifer Smith's photo and If you did that nowadays, dude, showing your friend your phone, like, why do you have Jennifer Smith's photo in your phone?
Starting point is 00:20:24 Fucking creepy. Yes. So weird. It would be, right? It would be a total, that's like, something that is totally evolved. It doesn't exist anymore. That was a big deal back then.
Starting point is 00:20:33 It was to have that. And I think about how stupid it is, too, because normally, like a grown-ass man has a wallet, and he might have pictures of his kid. Back, and we don't even do that anymore, right? That's evolved out with since phones, like, who keeps even pictures of their kids in there? But when we were kids, my dad did that.
Starting point is 00:20:49 You know, your dad and your mom would have those little inserts and they have pictures of their kids inside of that was very common, right? In the scene like soccer pose, you know? Like, of the ball. Yes, I see. I got, I got, I got, I got, I got, I got, but I went through all the, I had all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:21:04 Kids today will never know the mystery of taking a photo the ball. Yes, I see. I got a face. But I went through all the, had all that stuff. Kids today will never know the, the, the mystery of taking a photo and having to wait until that shit gets developed to see if it was a good photo. Yeah. They don't know that, you know what I mean? You take a photo and you're like, oh, I hope it was good. Right. You don't know if it was good.
Starting point is 00:21:17 And then you get it like, fuck all of them eyes are closed. Yeah. Did you guys have red eyes? A memorable, a memorable picture like for school that was like the worst one ever. I have one like that was the worst, like the day, literally the day before I was walking home with my friend and we were walking past this puddle
Starting point is 00:21:34 and there was just like maybe like 10 yellow jackets and I just walked right through. Two of them like flew on me. One of them flew right on my eye and stung me like repeatedly on my eye. Like right before picture day the next day. Like swole up like a beach ball, dude, I had like a slit that I could even see out of. That's your photo?
Starting point is 00:21:52 Yeah, so they thought that it'd be a great idea to turn me sideways and do like a profile and so you could see this big huge like lumpy eye, like trying to save it but this is not safely made it way worse my fourth grade one I wore a hat right my mom was so mad she was so mad at me when I came home with that I had I wore a hat And that was back remember when you this was popular to wear the hat like this. Yeah, oh I would I had to the bangs you did that too Of course oh my you wear the hat up high and then you comb the bangs all I thought that was just a Serpent head a fucking mole it then I had a long oh I had like I had the head the hat was kicked up I had the was like some like fluorescent color
Starting point is 00:22:36 I Was sometimes I was rocking a Dodgers hat so I was I was a kid. I was a I was rocking a Cincinnati Reds head for some reason Oh man, it was such I have one word I was in four must I was a I was rocking a Cincinnati Reds head for some reason. Oh man. It was I have one where I was in four must have been fourth grade and You know right around fourth grade is when you start to maybe fourth or fifth or sixth grade When you start to comb your hair because before that you're you don't give shit you go to school whatever So I'm like I told my mom like can you comb my hair for me? Like I need to I want to look cool I told my mom is specifically I said give me a cool hairstyle so my like, okay, my mom doesn't know what a cool hair is.
Starting point is 00:23:06 Which is funny, looking back now, you're like, I would never ask my mom for a cool. She got moose. You guys remember moose? Of course. Does anybody use moose anymore? Anyway, she got moose, put it in my hair, spiked it so that it was spiky,
Starting point is 00:23:21 but it was spiky all the way around. So it was like, I'm like, I'm working on it. Yeah, so it was completely spiky, but it was spiky all the way around. So it was like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm working on it. Yeah, so it was completely spiky back front top. Everything. You had a helmet of spikes. But then here's the best part. In the front, she pulled bangs down. So I have bangs.
Starting point is 00:23:35 What? Yeah, so I have, tell me you have a picture of this. Oh, not only do I have a picture, if you guys ever get invited over my parents house for dinner, that is one of the photos. That is up in my parents house for dinner, that is one of the photos that is up in my parents house. And I love it because whenever I have guests over that know me, I'll show them that picture, I'll be like, I check this out, and they'll always piss their pants.
Starting point is 00:23:53 Like, what the fuck? That was amazing. That was amazing. My mom's down in my hair. It looks like a terrible supercuts ad. Yeah, you know what I mean? Where you go to the supercuts and like, I'll pick, not that one, that one's fucking weird.
Starting point is 00:24:05 I'll pick this one over here, that's, you know. Do you know what else we used to do is, I don't know why, I think I did this all the way from like fourth grade, all the way to about high school. And I think this is that as a boy when you're growing up, you wanna be bigger than what you are. So I always wore shoes like two sizes too big. You always wanted to, I always wanted like bigger feet.
Starting point is 00:24:24 You sure it wasn't so you didn't have to buy more shoes. There's probably a little bit of a, there's probably a little bit of a, I'm sure your mom was a big convince you. I guess, the idea. Yeah, probably, Hey buddy, you're such a big guy. We're gonna get you to,
Starting point is 00:24:34 you said you, say you could say somebody. Cause, cause my uncle really kicked us down some fucking 12s. That was only eight. And then when you're picking up some clown shoes, we're gonna turn these into sandals, you know what I mean? Just get the front off and do it.
Starting point is 00:24:47 Oh man. Maybe it was just me. Was it just me doing, I'm doing more bigger shoes. We're closing yourself. Yeah, I don't know, I'm not that way. Because I definitely didn't wear shoes. And in a little bigger, but not least.
Starting point is 00:25:01 Yeah, I remember always wearing bigger shoes. You know, I just went into bigger pairs of shoes. That's hilarious. And I don't know why. And then I remember always wearing bigger shoes. They always want the bigger pair of shoes. That's hilarious. And I don't know why. And then I just remember getting into high school being, and you know what it was, when in high school and I had to wear shoes for sports, it was like you didn't want big shoes for sports,
Starting point is 00:25:15 but as a kid wearing them round, like yeah, I always wore. I remember, you don't remember being like in fifth and sixth grade, and you and all your friends all comparing your shoe sizes, like I ever, because you're growing at that age. And so like every year, it is, it's like that's you are measuring before. You do that too, but yeah,
Starting point is 00:25:30 that's a good deal. Come with us. Yeah, we don't talk about that. You start with shoes first. You start with shoes first, and you're talking about what size shoe you are. And I remember that being a big deal. So I remember being like competitive
Starting point is 00:25:41 with my friends on how bigger feet were. Totally. Yeah, yeah, I do remember that. I remember putting on layers of shirts. So I could appear bigger. I definitely remember that. I did that. I did that. She's I was a skinny kid. So I'll white be here. I teach an undershirt and then a t-shirt. Yeah. I know the undershirt when you play basketball, I was like, I would wear an undershirt for a while because I was like all self-conscious about my skinny, you know, arms and body. Really? Oh, not having a beard. Oh, I had it early. Did you have it early? Oh, yeah. I was, I was like all self-conscious about my skinny, you know, arms and body and my arm. Really? Or not having a armpit hair?
Starting point is 00:26:06 Oh, I had it early. Did you have it early? Oh, yeah, I was, I was, man, I hit puberty pretty damn quick. Did you have it before high school? Arm pit hair? Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:15 Oh, dude. Well, you were a lay bloomer. Yeah. You didn't get tall later? So a majority of my height hit me eighth grade and ninth grade. That was a majority of like, you know, and then I was just skinny as fuck. And then I, you know, I started working out a lot of stuff,
Starting point is 00:26:29 but no, for sure, I hit that real, my brother was like, you, my brother, we thought was gonna be a small kid. And sophomore year, he went from like, five, eight to like, six, one or two, like overnight, poor kids, his legs were hurting from other growing pains. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:44 Yeah, and no, it was know it was really awkward for me from sophomore to junior years. It was sophomore summer going into junior year. I sprouted up all the way up to six foot and before that. I'm watching my son right now go through some growth spurts. It's like almost like every month he'll grow around a half an inch to a quarter of two, like around a half an inch, maybe a little bit more every month, so far.
Starting point is 00:27:06 But what's funny is, is arms and legs are growing fast. This is what happens when you're a kid, by the way. You don't necessarily, you don't, not actually know, you definitely typically don't grow proportionally. It's like, feet explode first, and you see it when you see a 13, 14 year old boy, you see him walking around, you're like,
Starting point is 00:27:21 well, you're gonna be tall. How do you know? Because your feet don't match the rest of you. They're just great, like, awkward times. Yeah, so right now his arms and legs are growing real long, so I, he cracks me up, I'm like, you look like a spider and we start laughing, and I was like, well, you see,
Starting point is 00:27:35 like, you see, your arms are so long. Did I tell you guys he started working out? Oh, he did. On his own or what, how'd that happen? So I've been waiting until he shows a little bit of interest and he's mentioned a couple things. Like he said, first he said to me, like he's like, oh, why am I skinny?
Starting point is 00:27:51 Why am I so skinny? And I start laughing and I'm like, I'm so glad he's comfortable enough to say that to me. And I'm like, well, I said because you're my son, that's your genetics. I said, you are that way. So that's why I started working out. And he's like, well, I eat a lot of food.
Starting point is 00:28:04 And I'm like, well, you can eat a lot of food. But if you don't lift weights, then your body's not going to really know what to do with it. And so you're not going to gain any muscle. So then when I took them to the park, and we did a few exercises and stuff, and then I waited two days, and they took them to the park again. And he did a little bit more.
Starting point is 00:28:20 And so I did my infamous, your body's fundamentally different than it was two days ago, speech, or whatever. And I could see in his face was a little bit more. And so I did my infamous, you know, your body's fundamentally different than it was two days ago, speech or whatever. And I could see in his face was a little bit like, oh, you know, it's starting to kind of. Oh, wow. That would be interesting if he starts doing it now. Dude, if I will see what happens, you know, he's his own person. But if he ends up getting, you know, if that bug ends up biting him and my daughter too, she's really young now. She's only eight. But if that bug ends up biting him and he ends up really getting into it, I am, I'll be the best thing in the world to be able to work out with my own boy and, you know, lift weights and that stuff, like what a dream, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:28:56 What a fucking dream, it'll be so awesome. That'll be really cool. How did you guys weaken? Wow, moving, dude, you kidding me? Well, we just, so we, I feel so bad. Did I sold everything? Well, I mean a lot. So we, we are gonna, it's gonna cost me more money
Starting point is 00:29:11 to fucking dump than it is to move my stuff. What? Yeah, dude. That's true. It's gonna cost me more money to fucking dump my stuff. You need to put it out on your driveway and say free cycle. Go on free cycle.
Starting point is 00:29:23 It's been there all week. Nobody wants to. We garage sell, we did all kinds of stuff. Like, yeah, I think, I mean, here's what I did because I didn't want nothing to do with it because I told Katrina I said light it all on fire. I don't give a fuck. I got it. I literally bought, there's like three boxes.
Starting point is 00:29:36 You know how you're gonna dump it on the freeway and instead of the freeway? No, I'm gonna dump it on the freeway. I literally boxed up like three, like good sized boxes and then we had of course my clothes and the closet and stuff Right and then my stacks of shoes and I'm like this is like all I care about like everything else like it can go And I'm like I'm okay with burning it and so we made a deal with her her sister and her brother who are totally down to hustle All it off and said listen to you whatever you guys so split 50 50 so
Starting point is 00:30:02 If you want to come over here and open up my place and Garage sell shit and hustle it off and so they did, but I mean, I would have never done that, like just to set up alone for all that. I mean, they made like 500 bucks or something like that. I mean, it's for all day long for some bullshit like that. So you had good activity and neat this weekend. No, in fact, my killings was kinda killing me this weekend because every day was over 16,000 steps, which has been that was that's a high day still
Starting point is 00:30:27 Are you guys living at your new place yet? No, so Katrina's moving all by herself while we're gone right now, dude You had no I feel hell about I know right now so she's you know what she can't get mad because she's the one that booked the the interview for us Well, yeah, she's not like we well she knew she's like weird. I got to be gone She's like it, you know, she's all, if it was any other little interview with that, but this is a big deal, you know, to go down and do Bishop Baron is a big deal for us. So, you know, she's like,
Starting point is 00:30:53 and that was the only one of the few days he could do it. So we were, we have- Has anybody helping her? Yeah, you know, she's got both of her brothers helping her. We have somebody else is coming in to help her with stuff or paying people to handle most of it. So she's gonna be with so there's what she literally is carrying our mattress That is the only thing that is of size everything else can be carried in a box So so it's not like she's look I would feel bad if she's like carrying couches and big furniture and tables
Starting point is 00:31:18 Like we are literally not bringing any of that stuff. It's all it's all going so It's all the small dishes and shit like that. Even that, bro, not taking dishes, I'm taking shit. What the hell are you moving then? Like, well, I mean, you're still a lot of stuff. You know, there's a little thing. Stereo and there's like some things like that. Like, I'm not bringing the TVs, I'm not bringing. But when you start, you figure she's been in that place for like eight years or something like that.
Starting point is 00:31:43 And before that, she's only, so for me, I had the least amount of stuff I think. I mean, I have big stuff. Right, I have a snowboard, I have a quad, I have the shoe collection, like I have some big things like that, but those are all easy things to move. She's got shit, just tons of shit
Starting point is 00:31:57 from like being there for a really long time. And not moving as many times, like this is my, she was telling me last night, like she came up to me and she helped me and kissed me and she's just like, you know, I just wanna, I wanna thank you for just being the way you are. This whole process has been so much better with she's like, I don't know what it would have been like
Starting point is 00:32:16 if you were even in the slightest bit stressed because I've just been like, whatever, but everything. Yeah, you wanna do that? Sure, cool, yeah, okay, yeah, we can do that. I'll just pay someone to do that. Okay, cool, whatever. And she's like, it's crazy. She's like I I'm never the stressed one and I feel all stressed out about stuff
Starting point is 00:32:31 And I'm like, you know, honey, it's not a big deal I said you know the way I look at it is pack up the stuff that is really really important to you Like get that in like put that aside that stuff that you could just not live without and that's important And then the rest of the shit man if it man, if it doesn't get packed up in time or it's too much of a hassle, fuck and get rid of it. Just don't even worry about it. Moving is good to purge though, right?
Starting point is 00:32:51 It does, but it's moving is for sure one of the more stressful things. Well, so check this out. So nine times is a kid. Three times is an adult. Another 10 times, going for the course for you. Going back to help my mother out.
Starting point is 00:33:04 So when I was a kid growing up, we moved in a nine different places. So of course I had been the oldest, I was of course in the middle of all of it helping. It was like, I was like a child who got to just watch his parents move. I fucking moved everything. So I did it nine times there.
Starting point is 00:33:17 When I, then I moved out at 17, I've moved three times since I've been adult personally myself. And almost every year like clockwork since I left when I was 20 years old from the valley where my mom was at, my mom was moving in a house. And so of course she calls her son every single time she's moving.
Starting point is 00:33:35 And so I drive back and move her. So I told Katrina I'm like, this is like, I've done this so many times. No problem. Yeah, I don't give a shit. That makes sense. Yeah, I've only moved, I moved once as a kid, once. And then as an adult, I moved twice,
Starting point is 00:33:47 or three times, three times. Yeah, that's Katrina. She's a little like count on one hand how many times that she's having to move the bunch. When you were a kid? Yeah, well, even going to Chicago, going multiple places in Chicago, coming back here. I think moving when you're like a 20-something-year-old kid,
Starting point is 00:34:01 though, so different. It's different. Yeah, I'll bring my air mattress in my fucking computer. You're like five things. Yeah, we had a lot of stuff. I like the dump at the dump run, we have to get a U-Haul for the dump, and it will take one.
Starting point is 00:34:12 You can't call people to come pick that shit up and haul it? You can, and they spoke it a month out. Fuck. Oh, there's a little bit of a demand there. Yeah, for a business. That's expensive, man. It's very, it's like once, maybe it was just take all of my junk and shit for me to the dump, but but like it's yeah, it's way cheaper to find somebody with like a truck
Starting point is 00:34:30 That's about the only thing that's annoying for me is you know It's the move itself and I'm not like doing anything crazy. I mean it's gonna cost 10,000 You know to just move and it just worth and that's not even buying new shit Or I know it's not including like, when we have to go buy more furniture. It's been another 10 grand at least. Yeah, yeah, so it'll be, you know, total like a $20,000 hit just to just to transfer. But that's of course because I am getting rid of stuff.
Starting point is 00:34:54 Yeah. So that's totally right, exactly. And you're hiring people. Right. Hiring people to do it, we're moving, we're throwing away stuff. It's going to cost me like $1,500 just to throw away shit, you know. So which I could have used as furniture if I wanted to at the new place, which is now that that's going gonna cost me like $1,500 just to throw away shit, you know, so which I could have used as furniture if I wanted to At the new place, which is now that that's gonna cost me whatever so but you're so you're buying furniture
Starting point is 00:35:12 You're gonna keep for a while. Well, that's why I took a train to it I was like the idea is that and that's why she's like you don't even want to bring dishes I'm like listen you can bring four plates four cups Four forks for like four of everything. That's it. That's enough for us to have a dinner together, have something in the dishwasher, and then be able to eat again and then do it at the end. Now, do you go with her after to pick out everything, or there's certain things you care about,
Starting point is 00:35:32 and other things you like, pick out the dishes, I don't care. So there is a little bit of a, there's a little bit of debate going on here right now between her and I. So the one, here's, I, and she has got, she listened to the show. I love you honey but as out of the two of us I think I have the better taste when it comes to like
Starting point is 00:35:52 putting putting stuff together So yeah, don't stir it. They don't stir it up more assholes the day the day this episode air She's gonna get random flowers like why do you get this? Yeah? Well, when you guys when you guys come to the house, you'll see like, so we've already been in the house and it's a try level, right? So, and it's kind of a different layout, the way it's set up. And I already have an idea of like, okay, well, this makes sense.
Starting point is 00:36:15 This will be kind of like a study. We'll put, you know, a bookshelf right here and two chairs and a coffee thing, but the fireplace. And this will be kind of, kind of like how you have in front of yours. We have like a little, you know, one of the little areas is like that, right? So it'll be, and she's, she wants to do
Starting point is 00:36:31 the living room in TV there, and I'm like, it just doesn't make sense. Doesn't make sense to put it there. The fireplace is over here. The wall where the TV would be would be over here. You wouldn't be able to fit a piece of furniture there. Doesn't make sense. Let's just turn it into like this little study.
Starting point is 00:36:43 Then the next level up is like this little dining table area and that has a light that's supposed to be above it. You can tell it's designed for that. So that's where I would put the dining table. She wants to put furniture there. I'm like, it's not a place where you put furniture. It doesn't make sense to put it there. And then there's another room that's right by the kitchen
Starting point is 00:37:01 that is like open that we could put either a giant like kitchen table, which we never would would use unless it was Thanksgiving or big family event or what I thought. Or we can convert it into another like lounge cow chariot and so we just we're going back and forth on this like what should be there. And I just don't think that she has the ability to like see like the furniture there she looks at it like oh like, oh, we could make it whatever we want to make it. I said, well, yeah, we can make it whatever we want. But why don't we make it the way it should be? Absolutely. I'm definitely not. I'm definitely not. Jessica is the designer. I'm basically like,
Starting point is 00:37:35 do what you want. It usually looks good. If I do it, it's going to be like, you know, it'll be like one couch, a TV. Well, have you been in my master bedroom at my house right now? No. Okay. So, well, I mean, mean I have but not when you're there so I could know they'll I served that one so try and jump out the window real quick yeah I'm like I don't know if I should say yes or So Katrina and Katrina spotted her. Good Trita and Everett, you know, they were there before I was and it totally was like a bachelor pad. I mean, nothing on the walls. And the front none of the furniture match, the throw pills on the furniture match, no rugs matched anything.
Starting point is 00:38:22 There was no like the functue was fucked. And I for a long time, I had a really hard time with it until I broke down one time and I'm like, fuck this. I'm converting our, I'm going to redo our entire master bedroom, like the way I would want. So, you know, I had an interior designer come in, we had, I painted all the walls, I changed all the furniture out to match everything. Yeah, you definitely do like that stuff. It matters to you a lot.
Starting point is 00:38:45 And even in the studio, when things get put up, it's something that you're really interested in. I do, you know, and I'm sure it's, it goes all the way back to childhood shit. Yeah, whatever, it's just you like it. Yeah, I appreciate it. The way I look at it is if you're with the partner, one of the best things you could do is recognize
Starting point is 00:39:02 when that person's better. It's just like a business partnership. You recognize what that person, first off, if you really enjoy something, the odds that you could do is recognize when that person's better. It's just like a business partnership You recognize what that person first off if you really enjoy something the odds that you'll be good at it or much higher Right because you care. Yeah, I'm the kind of person that I don't necessarily care So I'm probably not gonna be good at it because I really don't care if I put my mind to it Could I be good at it? Maybe but it would take a lot of years of caring before I start to become good Yeah, like you'll give an example we were, I'm looking at stuff and I'm going over the shit that she's keeping
Starting point is 00:39:27 and not keeping. And then there's these two gray pillows that she's got and she's packing. I'm like, what are you, why are you packing these? She's like, oh, these are gray pillows. We could use these for the, I said, we don't even have the new couches. We haven't even picked them out.
Starting point is 00:39:39 You're gonna bring them. You're gonna match the couch to the pillows? Yeah, I'm gonna, you're gonna match a couch to pillows? $10 pillows, that means she's like, they're more than $10. They're nice Yeah, I'm gonna, you're gonna match a couch to pillows? $10 pillows? That means she's like, they're more than $10. They're nice pillows. I'm like, I don't care, but you're not gonna, I'm not gonna let you keep pillows
Starting point is 00:39:51 that you're just gonna, where you're gonna put on a couch that probably has, won't look anything right with those fucking pillows. The pillows are gone. So that's the time of shit that she would do. I would never do that. I would never match a couch to fucking $10 pillows. It just would never happen.
Starting point is 00:40:04 You should have seen my place when I lived in Palm Springs. But I had in the park as the first time I ever moved out of my house and I had an apartment and literally had a mattress on the floor in my room. I had a scar face poster close. I had a couch, a TV, and a fold-out table for the kitchen table and fold-out chairs, and that's how we lived. And I was perfectly content at no problems at all.
Starting point is 00:40:29 You know what I'm saying? Oh yeah, of course, I know the way, because that's your thing. If I lived with you, I would for sure be like, hey bro, you pick it out, I'll pay half, high five, you'd be happy, I'd be happy. Yeah, that'd be it, that'd be all that. So far, I mean, we actually,
Starting point is 00:40:42 we picked the whole master bedroom out together. So we did do that together. just want to be a part of it We're normally like most there's a lot like a lot of things. I'm like, hey, whatever, you know Do whatever you just let me know what it's gonna cost us But because we're moving this will be the first house. We're like moving in together You know what I'm saying and then we're gonna put it all together like I'll want to all want to say and if I like to pick out A few things dishes don't ask me why I like to pick out dishes. It's got a random It's really random. It's really ready. Yeah, that's the least thing. It's really weird
Starting point is 00:41:11 I just for whatever reason I like to pick out that's actually the only thing I probably don't care to be a part of I have no idea Why that is a bit is fun and then the electronics that's it I like to pick out the TV and and you know Whatever electrons we get other than that I don't care the TV and whatever electrons we get. Other than that. That makes sense. I don't care. I really don't care shit at all. So, dude, so this weekend I watched a movie that for sure
Starting point is 00:41:31 you guys are gonna make fun of me for, but it was fucking good movie. Uh-oh. Did you guys ever watch the first Mama Mia? Mama Mia? Yeah. No. You don't watch the first one?
Starting point is 00:41:41 Yeah, dude. The second one's really good. It's a musical. Oh, it's a musical? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you guys like musical? No. Oh, dude. The second one's really good. It's Mama Mia. It's a musical. Oh, it's a musical. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow. Do you guys like musicals? No.
Starting point is 00:41:49 Really? No. West Side Story, no? So, you know what I just watched that? No. Is a decent musical. And I'm- Lem is Rob.
Starting point is 00:41:56 No. Did you watch that? Even more recent than that. Did you like that? I've been to those, like in person. Aren't they great? Yeah, and I've been to like Phantom of the Opera. And I mean, those are great date nights
Starting point is 00:42:06 but it's not like I'm not like you don't get in some after you don't get in Thrall you don't get in Thrall really musicals will have you seen the greatest showman yeah loved it that one was loved it that was these musicals for me invoke more emotion in me than regular movies oh really yeah? Yeah, that's weird. Yeah, because well, music in general is designed in vocal motion. You like to pick the dishes out and you love musicals. I don't, I don't, I don't, well, I mean, I don't get fresh tip toenails. Yeah, I don't do that totally different. You guys don't refuse me. By the way, that's funny you brought that up because I'm going to surprise Enzo surprise Enzo, and I'm gonna take him. Oh my god.
Starting point is 00:42:47 To get his toes done? Yeah, I'm gonna tell him, don't tell him anything. That's kind of borderline weird. Yeah. Why is that weird? I don't know. Why is it weird? Just take him to go do something else.
Starting point is 00:42:54 That's kind of weird. I can drop in some game on the youngster, dude. Tonails? Yes, dude. Why do we have to go through this? It's been fucking, we've talked about this a million times. Yeah, I know, but I don't know. It's just, I'm not sure.
Starting point is 00:43:04 You know why? If I was a look out's a You know why if I was look up Here's what if I was a 17 year old kid interning at a place and my boss was like hey Hey bro come here. You know even do a good job come hang out with me and then we get our toes done I'd be worried about what comes after I'd be like why are we? Going on here man I feel comfortable with this dad my girl weird I'm going on here man. I don't know if I feel comfortable with this dad my gill weird That's exactly bro because dad gave him a permission to come with us on this We had soft-surveyed screen counts
Starting point is 00:43:34 Climbed into his fucking black Just don't buy him underwear some other weird shit. He's gonna go home Is dad's been like you never going back to that place again? Fair enough We we go. We go rethink that. We go about that one. Take about the lunch, dude. Anyway, it was a good fucking movie.
Starting point is 00:43:52 And the day before, Justin, I know you like the hiking stuff. You ever hike a Yuviz Canyon? I have not. Have you heard of that place? I have, yeah. Is it great or what? Fucking awesome hiking. What a great place.
Starting point is 00:44:02 It's close because it's in Morgan Hill. But that's not why I'm telling you this story. So when you get to UVs Canyon, you have to drive through this private, called Swedish community. Okay. It's called Sven, something's van there, or something like that. I'm gonna look it up. Sven's van, because it feels entirely like a cult. Like, yes, it's very strange. You have to drive through, it's a private community, but people live there.
Starting point is 00:44:29 Does it all like wear the same stuff? They all look the same. They're all weird as fuck, and then if you drive a smidge over five miles an hour, no joke, they come out and look at you all mean and go slow down. And I feel like I'm gonna get, there it is. Is that it? It's fucking,, yeah, sweat sweat all it feels
Starting point is 00:44:49 Weird dude it feels it's in the woods. It's private. I feel like they do their own thing They work with people are spent on the in Morgan Hill in Morgan Hill It's really really weird and you have to drive through it to get to this park so it's very see look see they're all fucking Dude, this is it's a creepy fucking place place, dude. I don't understand it. Now, I'm not, I'm never hung out there. So I'll make the passing judgment of it. Yeah, but just Swedish people that all live in the summer. They all kind of colonized in one spot. Look, look, look what they do. I don't know, bro. I feel like they have the same religion. They all do some weird shit. Who knows what happened? Maybe they're all naked at night.
Starting point is 00:45:23 And fucking do weird sacrifice I don't know it just it gives me that vibe. I didn't hang out there So I'm just passing purely passing judgment on driving through and maybe a little mad because they told me to slow down Even though it's driving seven miles an hour. Yeah, but I did feel like if I got out and got angry with them That they like the whole community would come out and like kind of swarm me slowly I'm gonna move on my favorite character of the Muppets did Swedish chef all day. Oh, he's the best. Mierge, Gbierge, Bierge.
Starting point is 00:45:51 Mark, Mark, Mark. You don't like Biker? Oh yeah. Mimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimimim of two. Nutrition was on point too. I'm assuming yours was on point. Yeah, no, I'm dialed in right now. How about you, Justin? Yeah, I was on point. I was clearing out my house, doing a bit of purging myself to kind of get ready for, you know, building up this squat rack and getting the PRX stuff in there. You mean the one that doesn't fit? Yeah. What? Yeah, I wasn't going to talk about that because I wanted to wait to have it all assembled and you know, and then promote it properly. But yeah, I got two of the arms for it. Like that go up into the ceiling. We're for like
Starting point is 00:46:31 a like a 11 foot, yeah, 11 and a half foot ceiling. Who the fuck has 11 and a half foot ceiling? I guess if you're putting it in your garage or a gym or something, so that threw me off, dude, because what happens is when you put it back to the wall, it goes up. It's so like the measurements. So I had it, I had it to wear like the six foot one, it goes up, I could fit it. But I have like these eight foot poles.
Starting point is 00:47:00 So you can make it work? So what I think what I'm gonna be able to do is be able to send them back and Then they're gonna send me the six foot ones and I'll stall that and get it ready and then go But yeah, I had to come up to film it and everything is total bust. Oh, it's piss. Oh, well, that's gonna be good though When you get that plan so I did that and then you know and then hiked and then took the kids down to the creek and You know and then I got to start the visit you do. I feel like your house is in a cool place.
Starting point is 00:47:27 Oh, yeah. Because it's out there. I've never been out to a house. He hasn't invited me. I don't want to be rude. Yeah. I've mentioned it several times. I'm not inviting you last Thursday to come up to this.
Starting point is 00:47:38 Well, I don't know, dude, I don't know my best. I mean, my sneak is way into your master bedroom, bro. You're fucking, I keep you away from my house too. I don't even know. That's true. Yeah. That's a valid point. Speaking of people sending a stuff, isn't Juve supposed to send us another red light?
Starting point is 00:47:53 Well, they have a new one, don't they, Doug? Isn't it, then they get a new light? Yeah, it has a few new features to it. I think there's some Wi-Fi things you can do with it. So here's what we're gonna, we're gonna do. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold on, raise your hand if you think Adam should keep the one he has and that new one should come here.
Starting point is 00:48:07 Two hands down. Yeah. I want, I want Adam's old one. Wait a second, tell me how this new one works. I didn't know that it's Wi-Fi on it. What, what, so I can listen to music? Maybe where I'm doing it? Yeah, it has a built-in Bluetooth function
Starting point is 00:48:20 that allows for personalized experience with the Juve app. Oh, shoot. I do different kinds Juve app. Oh, you're like, you're different kinds of lights. Oh, shit. You could hook it up to Alexa. Alexa, I want to juve for 10 minutes. Turns it on. Yeah. Pretty cool stuff. Wow. That is really cool. Wow. That is really, really cool. I wonder how you personalized it. I wonder what else it does. You know, I don't know. I get one now. I know, or maybe there's real similar to like what the sunlight sauna does. I know you can do like... So I guess it says there's a...
Starting point is 00:48:46 So I'm reading the little points here that Doug pulled up. New modular design, which allows you to build a full body system now, or over time. Oh, I see. So you could buy pieces. I like that. So you could buy one small panel, maybe. Is that what they're saying? And then you can enlarge it.
Starting point is 00:49:00 So you can start with one and be like, see if you like it and then expand it, type of deal. That's pretty cool. I wish I could use it more often because I loved when we did have it here, I did use it consistently for about a week and it did feel good. No, it does.
Starting point is 00:49:13 It absolutely does. It's like, and I like having it in my house because it's like when I come straight out of the shower, it's perfect. I'll come straight out of the shower. It's how you drive yourself? Yeah. I just set it at the edge of the bed.
Starting point is 00:49:24 I'll just set it at the edge of the bed. I'll just set it at the edge of the bed and I'll know my answer some emails when I'm sitting there and I'm just getting blasted by it. It's perfect, man. Oh, that's so cool. Yeah, when it was here, I wasn't using it as much. When it was here, I was like, oh, whenever I get a chance, I'll come over there and do it.
Starting point is 00:49:37 I just would never do it. But at the house, it's easy because it's standing in my living room. Yeah, I need to get one. Speaking of sponsors, I want to make, and I'm going to go back to another one, but I do wanna make sure that we, because we're all trying to eat right
Starting point is 00:49:49 and we're traveling that we make it a point to choose places to eat where we can get some vegetables, but let's also not forget to bring the green juice. Yeah, they just sent in a bunch of stuff. Okay, yeah, no, we're gonna find green juice. Yeah, I was kinda, because I wanna be, because we fuck up when we go on travel every time.
Starting point is 00:50:04 I was debating fasting. Well, so here's what I'm doing. I was kind of because I want to be because we fuck up when we go on travel every time I was debating fasting Well, so here's what I'm doing. I was thinking about not eating. I'm eating two more times today I'm eating two more times today and then tomorrow's my my fast So I did bring my bands for trigger sessions. Okay, good. I'm I was nice you guys you guys were down to get a lift Lift somewhere because I would fucking love to live will find something because we're heading that we're hitting the road pretty early So we should oh you want to live today. Yeah, oh thinking about lifting. I want to live. We'll find something. Because we're hitting the road pretty early. So we should. Oh, you want to live today? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:27 I was thinking about lifting. I want to live tomorrow. No. Oh, it's more likely to live tonight. That's fine. I can live tomorrow. It's better. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:35 Tomorrow will be hard because tomorrow we meet with him. It's a cardio. 10 a.m. Or whatever. Yeah. I wasn't going to do it before. I was thinking after, but you want to head up right up after. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:43 We're going to want to get back. Especially me because I'm my girl. That's shit, she's moving that day. So if I get back and help a little bit back and show some face. Bring the green juice though, just in case, because that's shit's clutch when you're not getting your vegetables in. Yeah, no, especially for Doug, because he doesn't poop for like the whole time.
Starting point is 00:50:58 You know what I mean? He scares it's way too much. I'm not laughing at you. I'm not laughing at you. We're all the same house. You know what I want to get? I can't sleep with these guys right now. Wait, where's, there's gonna be what? Five of us coming down, going down, right? I'm not laughing because we're on the same house. You know, you don't want to see these guys around. Wait, where's, there's gonna be what, five of us coming down, right?
Starting point is 00:51:10 Yeah, okay, so what do you have two rooms? We have three rooms. Three rooms? Yeah, so someone's gonna be alone? Yeah, we have one person alone. Oh, okay. Yeah. All right, we can give it to the, all right, whatever, we'll talk about it.
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Starting point is 00:51:52 by going to organify.com. That's o-r-g-a-n-i-f-i.com. And use a coupon code MindPump for 20% off at checkout. BEEP First question is from Sean B28. During rest periods, during my workout, should I be sitting or standing? Hmm, that's interesting. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:12 That's actually, I actually do, well, both. So there's a couple things that I do here. I do our zone one test a lot between sets, which is... The prime? Yeah. I'll go over and I'll get against a wall and between sets and just do like three to five reps of that where I'm doing back presses against the wall
Starting point is 00:52:32 and you know. Oh, that's smart. So this is what you do in between sets. Oh, what a great way to find time to do correctional exercise. Yeah, so I like to do it like that. Like so and or so I'll squat all the way down and do, you know, get in a deep baby squat, open up my hips,
Starting point is 00:52:46 and do a little bit of like a combat type stretch in the seated baby position. So yeah, no. But then I also have times where I'm relaxing and resting because I'm fucking crushing my workouts. So it just, it depends. It only depends, this was like a compound lift. So I'm doing like really heavy squat.
Starting point is 00:53:02 I'm just gonna sit down, you know, I'm gonna sit down and get, you know, catch my heart rate, or bring my heart I'm doing like really heavy squat. I'm just gonna sit down. You know, I'm gonna sit down and get, you know, catch my heart rate or bring my heart rate down and like catch my breath. And, but yeah, sometimes I'll just like slowly kind of walk around just to get things circulating and that helps me to recover actually a little bit fast. Yeah, I don't ever sit unless I have to.
Starting point is 00:53:21 Like if I'm fucked and it usually doesn't happen, maybe if I do like a collusion on my legs, which I'd never do, because then you need to fucking need to sit down. Yeah. Or I did a really, really crazy set of squats. It's super rare, typically. Yes, I don't any time. If I'm really tired, what I'll do is I'll just lean on the bar with stand while standing and I'll shift my weight from side to side. I might sit in between sets of like upper body exercise just because I'm already on the bench and I'm sitting there and I did maybe seated curls or something like that.
Starting point is 00:53:54 But even then I like to stand. I don't like to not move because I feel like you're preventing good circulation. I feel like moving because here's how the blood, this is how the blood works in the body. Because your body's working against gravity, you flexing your lower body is what helps the blood move back up to the heart. There's like a series of, I don't know what they're called, but it's like a bunch of gates that move in one direction. And when you pump them up, the blood, it stays in a new area and then you pump them
Starting point is 00:54:26 and they move up again. And this is why people can have issues with sitting for long periods of time where blood will pull and they can get like a blood clot or something like that. You know, I feel like it doesn't provide as much circulation and in the past, when I've sat, when I've sat in between sets, I almost don't feel as effective in my next set.
Starting point is 00:54:47 I'm saying, I feel like I need to move in between them. Well, I love to do our prime stuff in between that benefits the movement that I'm doing. So, for example, I was talking about the zone one test. So, if I'm, I was heavy benching the other day. And when I, like, one of the things for sure that if I just, nowadays, this wasn't like this just a few years ago, but now if I just get into a bench press like no warm up,
Starting point is 00:55:11 no nothing, no prime, just go right into binging, 100% bothers my shoulder like right away. But all I need to do is spend a few minutes of priming. So either doing like some band rows or doing zone one test. And it's, it realigns me and gets me engaged with my back. So I can squeeze my shoulder blades back when I go to bench. Instantly, I have relief. So I like to like do it in between sets and see how much it's improving on my, my technique.
Starting point is 00:55:37 So and you should be out most people, especially if you're, you know, late 20s into 30s and beyond, should feel a difference like every set. Same thing with Justin's talking about squatting, unless I'm squatting really heavy and I'm looking, I need the rest, I'm looking for the replenishment. Then I'm actually down and opening the hips up more and working on my ankles more. So every time I go back to my set of squats,
Starting point is 00:56:03 I feel like I'm getting in the groove more and it's more comfortable. So then the setup again, going back to it for each and every set, I make sure to really be diligent with that. So it's like, you go through your recovery process, but then I'm like, I'm really digging my feet in, I'm trying to ground myself properly, I'm setting myself up on the bar, I'm taking a decent amount of time to get situated to where like each set's going to improve as far as mechanically. So this reminds me of a study that was just shared on this particular thing, reminds me of the study because, so let me read to you what they say in the study. And then this is a great example of why studies sometimes are not giving you the right answer,
Starting point is 00:56:53 or at least the results don't mean a whole lot. So what they did with this study is they took a bunch of, they took 17 rugby players, and they had them perform side and prone planks and hit and hit hip extensions and some one-legged squats to activate the glutes. Then they did a set of high-hang poles, which is like an explosive Romanian deadlift, right? And what they found was that they doing the hip extensions and one-legged squats before the high-poles resulted in less glute activation, not more. So I had a lot of people tag me on the study and say things like,
Starting point is 00:57:31 this is weird. I thought you said, you know, priming your glutes would make you activate them more and make you work the glutes more and this, that, and the other. Okay, here's a deal. Here's why this study is not really saying what you think it's saying. Two things. First off, they're using rugby players. I highly doubt any of these rugby players have a tough time activating their posterior chain. So they're well trained athletes. They probably don't have an issue feeling their glutes fire. If anything, rugby players probably have some of the strongest posterior chain. So that's number one. Number two, in the study, the priming movements they did before were done to failure. So they beat the crap out of the glutes and then they went and trained.
Starting point is 00:58:12 Now here's a deal. When you do like what you're doing at them where you're trying to move in a position, part of the reason why that's beneficial is because it gives you the feeling of where you're supposed to move and feel. So when I do, you're not fatiguing those. No, when I do priming for a beginner in particular who's not firing their glutes, I am showing them what it feels like to fire the glutes.
Starting point is 00:58:34 Now when they squat, they can squat better. Not because inherently it's gonna change the, you know, it's gonna change the way that the, this is why I was, this is why so many people are doing it wrong that you see in the gym. I see this all time I grow a free exhaust technique. That's not priming right exactly I see girls doing this all the time and you see some guys to but mostly girls because it's the booty chasers that are doing the Band work and they're doing all these butt kickbacks and they're doing reps and reps and reps and reps and they're just Rep it them out and they're going to failure. It's like no no, the idea is, you don't need to do 20 reps,
Starting point is 00:59:05 three sets of it with no rest and get the butt burning. The idea is just to get connected to it and understand how the movement, how you're supposed to. You gotta know how it feels. You gotta know how it feels. And so, that's the difference of, so like when I- I wanna say that because you're talking about
Starting point is 00:59:19 in between sets, that's what you're doing. You're not, you're not, okay, so let's say you're bench pressing and you're trying to activate your mid back and the muscles that pull the shoulder blades back and down. So you're getting a better position for your bench press. What wouldn't work would be for you to fucking do that shit to failure and fatigue the fuck out of me.
Starting point is 00:59:35 Or yeah, do lots of reps of heavy seated row or something. No, you're just trying to get them, right? You feel them, so then when you get in the bench, you're like, okay, there it is, that's what I'm supposed to be. Right. Which I think is actually a brilliant use of in between set rest. And because here's the deal, you're also resting. If you would then did it to failure,
Starting point is 00:59:52 you wouldn't be resting, you'd be doing a circuit. Right. You know what I'm saying? Right. So I think it's important to note that if you do do stuff like that in between sets, which I've never done that, I think that's a brilliant way to use it. I've done it with clients is to do it mainly just to rest,
Starting point is 01:00:05 but also feel what you're supposed to feel. But when it comes to clients, I almost never have clients sit unless they have to. I like to keep people, you know, just keep them moving. Don't let the blood pull in the legs and just kind of feel good. I almost feel like it's too hard of a contrast, cool down like that, like hard work and then, you're nothing at all. I don't know, it doesn't necessarily feel right to me.
Starting point is 01:00:28 I don't know about you guys. Yeah. No, I can agree with that. Next question is from VMA, Mr. Black. You talk about how our bodies are adaptation machines and how changing variations in our fitness routines will keep the body adapting. Would changing variables like time of day, location,
Starting point is 01:00:44 amount of sleep, calories consumed per workout also have some sort of positive adaptation effect on the body. Sure. Definitely. Yeah. Definitely. And the reason why the body adapts at all, the only reason why the body adapts at all is because it's trying to become better at something.
Starting point is 01:01:01 Now in order for your body to become better at something, it has to use resources. so that means calories or whatever. And in order for that to be justified, the stimulus is probably a stress, right? So it's not, I can't say you're in think about building muscle and build muscle, or at least if that'll actually work at all, but probably not because I'm not stressing my body.
Starting point is 01:01:24 My body's like, well, okay, you want more muscle, but there's no reason to have more muscle. We're not getting stressed. So I'm not gonna waste resources or whatever. Same thing with any type of an adaptation, it's usually a stress that's causing that change. So... Dr. Andy Galpins says it's so good
Starting point is 01:01:39 when he talks about that you're either optimizing or you're adapting it all the time, right? Yep, yep. So would changing a variable like the time of day you work out, let's say you always work out at, you know, 4pm in the day, that's how you always work out. Do you think changing your workout to 7am would be a little bit more difficult for you? Absolutely. Right? Probably. And so that's going to an additional stress on the body, and your body's going to have to learn
Starting point is 01:02:05 to be more resilient at that new stress. Would, you know, changing your sleep sometimes might even do it. This is why I've always said, I know we talk a lot about getting good sleep, but I bet you there's a benefit to stressing it out. Every once in a while. Dude, this is how I use,
Starting point is 01:02:21 this is exactly how I use, you know, the quote unquote, fasted cardio technique for bodybuilding. Like the way I looked at it was not that it would made this huge difference or benefit by not eating and doing cardio, it was that I would do it an hour before I would normally be out of my bed. And it was tough, you know, I would be like,
Starting point is 01:02:41 set my alarm an hour earlier than what I've been training myself to be up for the last year, two year, whatever. I'm going to do it again right now with us getting ready right now in the six weeks. The final two weeks, 100% what I will do is set my alarm for an hour earlier than when I'm used to getting up. I'll fucking drag my ass out of bed, not wanting to throw a fucking hoodie on. Go get over on the treadmill and just start moving and just start walking. And every time I was getting ready for a a show didn't even have to push that hard
Starting point is 01:03:08 But it's because it's so different from my body my body responds and it starts to change So but if I were to do that for months on in for a long period of time before long my body just wouldn't respond It has to be in depth intentional right now and like the I think the trap a lot of people get in You know where you're trying to figure out all these variables like Which one are really like competing signals? So like if I'm working on like endurance, but I'm also trying to strength train and It's sort of like muddies up the the overall signals and what your body's trying to actually adapt towards. It'll get a little better at both,
Starting point is 01:03:47 but it's not gonna get a lot better at it. It's gonna work. Which there's a place for that, too, and I'm not completely shitting on that because I've definitely circuit trained and tried to also strengthen train and go through this endurance type pace, but just know that ahead of time.
Starting point is 01:04:02 So this is a focus of mine. I have intent towards getting better at this and adapting towards this. So it's good. Here's something that I want people to who are listening to understand, okay? All stresses on the body do send a signal for your body to adapt to get better
Starting point is 01:04:21 at dealing with that particular stress. That being said, all stresses take from the stress reservoir that you have. So if you imagine if you have this reservoir of stress that you're capable of dealing with, and let's say it's at a hundred, just because you're stressing from weight training, that means you're taking from the same reservoir as the stress from lack of sleep or the stress of working a lot or the stress of changing your diet or the stress of adding cardio or the stress of a stressful work or life with your partner or whatever. Keep that in mind.
Starting point is 01:04:53 So when you're trying to get the body to adapt in a particular way, consider all the other stresses that you're asking your body to adapt to because they all come from the same place. So if you're in a situation where your job just trained, changed, excuse me, you just moved, you went through a crazy breakup or you're not getting good sleep, and then you're thinking, oh, this is gonna get a good time
Starting point is 01:05:14 for me to fucking really change my workout and go after a new adaptation. Maybe not, maybe not. It might be too much because all of those things take away from this pool or this reservoir of available capacity for stress. This is very important. It's like the difference of you trying to send a signal to the body to adapt versus it just to survive.
Starting point is 01:05:35 You throw so much shit, it'll do whatever it needs to just to survive. It'll start to prioritize. Right, because you're throwing so much stress out of it versus just throwing the right amount of stress out of it so it starts to adapt and improve. Yeah, this is why like, you know, when I've gone through the most stressful times of my life, my workouts are totally not, I do not design my workouts
Starting point is 01:05:55 or try them away. I'm not pushing it. I'm not trying to build muscle, burn body fat, get stronger at all. Well, that's what I just went through. That's what I talked about. We talked about this on the show the other day. Like I wasn't not working out this whole time
Starting point is 01:06:06 where I have fallen out of shape and comparison. I just wanna push it to like totally. Yeah, it was about health. It was just about getting in here and actually creating movement and squatting and trying to get my hormones back up. It had nothing to do. I knew that if I hammered my body in here
Starting point is 01:06:19 and went beast mode to try to do it, it would just be, I'd go backwards. It wouldn't help me out. Yeah, yeah, yep. And so changing the time of day that you eat, changing macros, I love doing this with clients all the time where I'll have them eat a higher carb diet or a lower carb diet.
Starting point is 01:06:37 Of course, we can observe different changes in the body, but just kind of changing the signals that we're saying to the body. Some, this is also why, you know, when you're dieting or trying to get lean or even trying to gain muscle, it's probably better to have, you know, rather than have the same calories every day, to have some days that are low and some days that are high. The body tends to try to adapt and you start to see, you know, better change. So just kind of keep that in mind with, you know, what you're doing.
Starting point is 01:07:02 But I do want to get hammer home the message that no matter what stress you're putting on your body, consider all the other stresses that you're putting on your body. Consider all of them because they all pull from the same, you know, capacity to deal with stress. And you can overcome it or you can overwhelm it, I should say quite easily. Like I know people who are like, you know, my workouts aren't that hard, but I'm over training. It doesn't make any sense. It's because they're not considering all the other should say quite easily, like I know people who are like, you know, my workouts aren't that hard, but I'm over training. It doesn't make any sense. It's because they're not considering
Starting point is 01:07:29 all the other things that are happening in their life. And then I'll usually ask them, well, you know, what's going on in your life? Oh, my job is really, really stressful. Well, it's probably why you're not able to, to, to, to, to, to, to, you know, recover from your normal workouts, probably to scale back a little bit.
Starting point is 01:07:42 Next up is Kohler Roman squat pad, yay or nay? No, definitely. I almost never recommend a squat pad. So squat pads were actually called it a pussy pad. He did, but we had to change that. Yeah. Stupid. Um, you know, I know what it exists.
Starting point is 01:07:58 They exist because the bar hurts some people's back. I used them as a young boy. Mm-hmm. Yeah. You need to know to know the whole bar program. And that's, to me, that's the point right there. Aside from, and we talked about this on YouTube a long time ago, we did a YouTube video addressing this.
Starting point is 01:08:13 But I don't know if I've ever seen anybody who has squatted with the squat pad, actually squat with great mechanics. I don't know if I, like I'm thinking back right now of all the, all the men and women that I've seen put a squat pad on. And most people that put a squat pad on, they don't know, like I'm thinking back right now of all the all the men and women that I've seen put a squat pad on and Most people that put a squat pad on they they don't squat very well because they don't have good sound mechanics Because if you know how to put the bar if you have if you don't have make major issues going on with like shoulder mobility And you can actually Retract the shoulders and rest the bar back on your traps and in your dealt rear delts
Starting point is 01:08:43 I I think it's a very comfortable place for it to be. Now, if it's really uncomfortable on you, you've probably got something going on with your posture, with your shoulders and your neck. And so your squat is probably already off as it is. So addressing that, I think is important. Now, someone may say, well, what if I have good positioning
Starting point is 01:09:03 and I still prefer to use a squat pad? Is it okay to use? And I'll still say no. And here's why. When you use a squat pad, those things are typically about an inch in thickness all the way around. Maybe more. Some of them I've seen are fucking huge pillows.
Starting point is 01:09:16 Okay. That is raising, it's raising the bar off your back, exchanging, it's exchanging the lever. Yeah. And it's changing the, it's changing where the bar is being placed. So now you're squatting with kind of a higher bar type of a squat. I was just going to mention it. It always seems to me it looks like everybody uses that squat pad pretty high and it's pushing the head forward.
Starting point is 01:09:35 And so now the next compromise, you know, you're kind of, uh, this is what I was attracting your shoulders. I don't think I've ever seen somebody with really good squat mechanics in your squat because they rested up right below their neck, they get the forward head going. Then you add in the fact too, high bar squatting is already harder than low or mid bar squatting, because you got to be able to sit upright, which is not a lot of people. Very vertical. Yeah, not a lot of people have really good mechanics to get their chest up high and sit up tall and straight into a deep squat.
Starting point is 01:10:01 So it's a crutch for something that ends up I think causing more good than bad long term. Well, I've seen some people try to come up with products that like address, you know, way to do it. Like if you've seen the plastic, plastic, yeah, they sort of like for the mantle holds. Yeah, the Mansray molds on your back. I mean, as far as like options go, maybe that's a better option than the big foamy pad, but still, it's a fixed, it doesn't really allow for your body to get into position. No, the ideal for you.
Starting point is 01:10:34 I've used the Manoray. The problem with the Manoray is it's molded for the average person. Yes, exactly. So if you're small or big or whatever, and it also places the bar kinda high on the back, it's kind of a high bar squat, which like Adam said, here's the thing about squats, okay. If you do them right with good form and good biomechanics, it's extremely safe. Squatting is a very safe movement.
Starting point is 01:10:55 We were born to squat. It's a foundational functional movement of the human body. That being said, it's also simultaneously, an exercise where if your form is off by a little, if you have a little bit of dysfunction, it goes from safe to dangerous. There's not a lot of exercises like that.
Starting point is 01:11:12 Like, you could do a curl, and if your form's a little off, it's not dangerous. You could do a trisip extension, you could do a row even, you could do a lot of different movements, where your form's a little off, and it's not a dangerous exercise, it's just an ideal. A squat, there's a line, literally a line between very safe and not safe. And that is-
Starting point is 01:11:33 Which is what scares a lot of people from doing it. Right. I mean, this is what- And wearing a squat pad is only going to make you, it's unsafe. Right, so I think that's again going back to, you know, could somebody in this room throw a squat pad on and squat completely find? Absolutely, it's not like it's not the end of the world to do that, it's just, I think I would address why it wasn't comfortable.
Starting point is 01:11:53 Why is it not comfortable on my back? There's a good chance, the reason why it's not comfortable on your back is because you can't get in the correct position to rest it on your back correctly. So instead of just throwing a pad on there and moving on and just squatting, maybe look into addressing whatever that is. You also, it also encourages,
Starting point is 01:12:12 because here's something that's very important about barbell squats. If you hold it right and you have a good position, it's not gonna fall down your back. It sits nice on a nice position. I know guys that have such good form that they could literally squeeze their shoulder back, not hold the bar with their hands,
Starting point is 01:12:27 and the bar doesn't move throughout the whole squat, right? Because it's sitting on something. The pad encourages the bar to roll down your back. That's fucking bad, especially when you have your hands on the bar, and I've seen this before, where people have tweaked their shoulder because the bar starts to slide down or roll down their back.
Starting point is 01:12:42 They're trying to hold it with their hands, and typically you can squat a weight that's heavier than you can hold with your hands behind your back at least in that position It's actually dangerous. I would say a squat pad is gonna increase your risk of injury Not to mention encouraged by you know by on mechanics that are not favorable Which is why I never look I don't see too many of them though. Do you guys see that many of them? It was yeah It feels like a fad for a minute Like it did because nobody squatted before it's so yeah, it's a nice little pillow like it yeah, it feels better And I know I have had people tell me like oh you need to have a lot of muscle on your back to hold the back right
Starting point is 01:13:15 The pad the the bar right otherwise it hurts and I don't have a lot of especially women I don't have a lot of muscle so it hurts not true not true at all I've had to retract your shoulders. I've had 70-year-old women put a bar on their back and do squats. I've had in these women did not have that much muscle. I just got them to the point of being able to position their body right and you know have the right biomechanics and we went really light of course, but the bar sit and perfectly on the back. I, I have more muscle than the average person, but I don't have a shit ton of muscle. I've been fine with, I can't squat over 500 pounds,
Starting point is 01:13:51 but I could rest 500 pounds on my back. It's not gonna hurt because of the positioning. I could probably rest more than that if I could support it, right? So your positioning is everything, or at least a major part, I should say, of your ability to squat and a pad, discourages proper positioning.
Starting point is 01:14:06 It is part of this weird thing for me, like when people, like, I used to train, like, some clients that wanted them to invent a pad on the kettlebell, because it just rested on their arm. And it would leave a little mark sometimes, you know, and it's like, yeah, it's uncomfortable, you know? Like, you're going to build call sometimes, you know, and it's like, yeah, it's uncomfortable. Yeah, like you're gonna build callus, you're gonna build these things, your body's gonna naturally produce the deal with it. Like, be fucking tough. Fuck, you know, that's a lost art, you know,
Starting point is 01:14:36 like get rid of the fucking pads. Yeah. It's just working out. This whole movement to make working out comfortable is stupid. It's weird. It's like, you know what, I was moving and stuff, right? So I've been going, I went through a bunch of, movement to make at working out comfortable is stupid. It's weird. You know what, I was moving and stuff, right?
Starting point is 01:14:48 So I've been going, I went through a bunch of, but I meant to bring this. It's the science of bodybuilding. God, it's like a 1970. Oh, no way. It's a great, I started reading it. I, brother, there are gems of knowledge. Yes, dude, it's just on this topic alone.
Starting point is 01:15:01 He's just talking about, they were talking about, this is like when, notilus machines were really coming in and he's kind of knocking them, just, you know, we've tried to make everything so convenient and nice and sure, it's nice for certain things, but because of it, now everyone is gravitating towards it and we're losing out on these great movements
Starting point is 01:15:19 that have carried us through this much time of lifting and building the body. It's one of the reasons why this whole, I gotta be comfortable while I'm working out. It's almost like you're missing the whole purpose behind the workout. The workout's supposed to be a little uncomfortable. It's what you get your bodies to change, for fuck's sake.
Starting point is 01:15:38 So it's impossible to be perfectly comfortable while you're working out. And if I could invent that, I'd be the richest man in the world, but it just doesn't work that way. It's one of the reasons why I sometimes enjoy will be perfectly comfortable while you're working out. And if I could invent that, I'd be the richest man in the world, but it just doesn't work that way. It's one of the reasons why I sometimes enjoy working out, even when it's too hot or too cold. It's that whole like, it's not uncomfortable right now,
Starting point is 01:15:53 but I like this is good, I enjoy doing it. Sometimes you guys ever work out when it's fucking freezing outside. You ever do an outdoor freezing? Those are some of the best workouts. You know, so yeah, the whole comfort thing is kind of hilarious to me. We see these machines with all these massive pads and pulle best workouts. You know, so yeah, the whole comfort thing is kind of hilarious to me. We see these machines with all these massive pads and pulleys and, you know, just move
Starting point is 01:16:09 one joint. You're never going to sell me on it. Drop the pads. Next question is Lewis lifts a little. With some economists predicting another economic crisis in the near future, what would you guys do to prepare or minimize its effect on you and your families? Also, how would this affect personal trainers?
Starting point is 01:16:31 And what should we do to make it through the hard time? So I agree and disagree with the... Must have listened to Peter Schiff. Well, I do believe that, and we're seeing it right now, so if you talk to the new real estate people that are selling homes and stuff right now, especially in California. It's funny we're saying this
Starting point is 01:16:49 because we literally just had a report that GDP was over 4% growth, which is the first time in like a while, right? So I think that we're gonna see the houses level out a little bit. I think that if you're, so I'm in, this is very, I'm in this wheelhouse right
Starting point is 01:17:05 now because of the fact that we're considering buying right now. And I am really torn. I'm really torn on, you know, locking up a bunch of my money into a, you know, fucking $1.5 million home, like that's a lot of money to tie up into one piece of property that I could potentially do invest or also potentially sit on and continue saving until we potentially have another slight recession and then buy when things are a lot cheaper. So I'm kind of going back and I'm forth on this right now. I don't think we're going to see what we saw and you know, what was it? Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,
Starting point is 01:17:41 eight, oh, six, oh, eight at a time oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, to think, here's what happened in 2008, or what we did that kicked the can down the road. What did we see? Massive bank bailouts, debt increased, and all the bad assets and bad investment didn't get, because you have to let the market sort itself out and get rid of these bad investments and bad assets. That's rewarded for it. They got rewarded and they pumped them up.
Starting point is 01:18:24 Interest rates got hammered down even more because the central bank tries to, tries to, which doesn't work that way, but they try to prevent bubbles and stuff like that. But what they end up doing is they end up dropping interest rate, creating more fake money or whatever. And so we're gonna have a correction in this time. We're gonna be left without any Solutions like we're gonna have to let the market
Starting point is 01:18:49 We're gonna have a correction, but I don't think we're gonna have anything near what we had back then And the reason why that is is because of what they did with the loans, dude Nothing that we had never seen that since the fucking great depression that we'd seen something like that And that was the one of the biggest fucking scandals of our time, of our lifetime, that we have ever seen. And it is incredibly difficult now for someone to go get a loan for a house. Like your credit has to be on point.
Starting point is 01:19:16 Most people have to come with at least 10 to 20% down. Like, dude, just 10 years, 15 years ago, you could, no paper documents, you could buy two, three houses and make 50 grand a year. Like that's insane. And people need to understand why that happened. It wasn't because banks are greedy, it was because banks knew that they would get bailed
Starting point is 01:19:35 out. So it's like going to Vegas with 10 grand knowing if you lose it all, you're going to get it. And that's exactly what happened. The banks lost all that money and then they got it all back through through us right. So taxes. But that's not the only bubble. No, it's not. The school one is a big one that we're massive. School one is a big one that we're gonna see. So I definitely believe we have. And the average American has got like
Starting point is 01:19:57 10 grand in debt. I think we have another I think we have another four or five years. At least where we're at right? Because obviously it different parts of country are different right as far as how they'll be impacted. I don't think the Bay Area is gonna be hit that hard. I think with Google and a lot of these and Facebook and Apple, the amount of jobs that they're pushing and building right now. I mean, there's, like Katrina has, you know,
Starting point is 01:20:18 the next four years is booked out for jobs, multi-million dollar jobs of concrete and buildings and things that are going up. So, I don't think that happens why we're... So, we're not going to hit a recession like we hit in 2008, in my opinion. I do think the market will correct itself and I think housing... I don't think it's possible to have a average income of 70-something thousand dollars while the average house is 1.2 million dollars. It just doesn't mathematically add up. Nobody who makes that kind of money can afford those
Starting point is 01:20:51 houses so it will correct itself and level out and maybe dip a little bit. So the way I look at it is this and this is what I tell Katrina is like, we won't buy a house or a property that we're not comfortable with either one having for a minimum of 10 to 15 years, or that we plan to keep forever. So that's kind of how I ride the storm. Yeah, because if you look at real estate over the course of the last 100 years, and you look at it in blocks of 20 years,
Starting point is 01:21:18 it's always a smart buy, always. Because even if this is the peak right now, and it crashes and we give it 20 30 years you give it 15 20 years and it will be back up above that again. So as long as you can hold whatever you're doing then and you have the kind of money and capital to sustain a potential recession. So that's where we're at is like okay, we're going to put a very heavy down payment on a on a property that if we were to do this like that that if I do lose $2,300,000 in equity, you know, in the next three to five years
Starting point is 01:21:51 I'm not shitting myself and freaking out because I've got more of that down. Here's what we need to remember because we forget We always forget when some shit goes down in two thousand before 2008 2007 looked incredible. They had projected houses being built, commercial real estate was being put all over the place. People, businesses were exploding. You literally had interviews with some of the top economists and they were saying, no, everything's fucking, yes, awesome.
Starting point is 01:22:19 The stock market's exploding. Real estate's growing, everything's looking good. There's no signs of any type of a whatever, then 2008 came and exploded, everything. So we gotta remember that because we can definitely get ourselves into a situation. Here's a deal, this is the way I look at it. Do we have a shit ton of debt that's out there right now?
Starting point is 01:22:38 Are there bubbles and have people, are people spending their money a little wiser? And the answers to those are, yes, there's a lot of debt out there. The average American has got like something like $10,000 in credit card debt alone. School loans are ridiculous. Those start to default. We'll see what happens. And they will.
Starting point is 01:22:56 They're going to start to default at some point. And then, you know, I forgot what the last one was, but it's, it's a, here's a thing that's kind of saved us a little bit, is the incredible power, the decentralizing power of technology. Most of the jobs and shit that have been added since 2008 are these, what do they call the gig economy jobs? You know, Uber and Airbnb and all these businesses and stuff where it's super decentralized and shit's getting so efficient
Starting point is 01:23:25 because of technology that it's kind of saving us a little bit. So what I think is gonna happen is we're gonna see a big fucking shake down, huge fucking shake down, and you're gonna see even further decentralization as big pillars of the economy, big old pillars, crumble and never kind of come back again.
Starting point is 01:23:43 The way I would protect myself is two different ways. Number one, have some liquid cash. That's always a good. And then also hold on to something that historically or have some asset that historically is how it's value, which would be gold silver. Yeah, silver or, you know, blockchain, big coin and stuff like that potentially could be there's more options now And it's really just about not putting all your eggs in one basket
Starting point is 01:24:12 I mean, that's just like a smart thing to do like with some in real estate some and well That's how I feel like as I've gotten older like that so and I was just actually talking about this last time It's funny. We we answered a question like this With my buddy financial advisor buddy and I was just actually talking about this last time. It's funny we answered a question like this. It's with my buddy, financial advisor buddy. And I was like, man, I wish, I knew what I knew now when I was in my mid 20s, because when I was about 25, I had about $300,000 in equity in my house.
Starting point is 01:24:39 I had a decent chunk of change. I had my 401k. I thought I was on living the life. I thought everything was so great. And so I was spending and doing things like I was. And then I literally watched it completely turn and crash. And then be the opposite to where my house was a hundred grand upside down. And I remember being like, mother fucker, like if I if I would have just foreseen, like, because at that point, I was so young. And everybody was high five in and buy in more houses and buy in more houses. I was looking to do get like, because at that point, I was so young and everybody was high-fiving
Starting point is 01:25:05 and buying more houses and buying more houses, I was looking to do get my second house at that time. And I remember like not being wise enough that it's only a matter of time that it will come back down. It always does, right? It always comes back to the journey. It's just a matter of how much,
Starting point is 01:25:20 and it just so happens to be that when I was out, living the life was a time that it came back down, the hardest it ever has in our lifetime. So I don't believe it's gonna be there again, although I am prepared for it. Now, like I mean, I have my money market savings account, I've got my checking account, then I have a regular savings account,
Starting point is 01:25:40 I have my... The liquid is important. I have... It's stock market crashes. And that sets loose value. And then I have stock and then I also have a little loses Bitcoin and then we're looking at real estate right now. So the way I and then I you know I won't over extend myself on anything. So you know, this is just the wiser me now and I'm in a better place financially I am today than I ever was as a 25 year old kid because I learned from that mistake, you know, now going forward.
Starting point is 01:26:07 So I think the way you protect yourself is you diversify, you don't put all your eggs in one basket. I wouldn't heavily invest in book coin. I wouldn't heavily invest in the stock market. And I wouldn't put it like what I'm talking about right now, which is put all of my money into one big expensive place. So that's what we're back and forth on. Oh, do we get like one investment?
Starting point is 01:26:25 And we're willing to just sit on it. And let that, you know, whether you threw all that stuff. But as far as like the personal training goes, I know that like when that recession hit, I was actually running a boot camp. I know a lot of people are freaking out. Like nobody's gonna buy personal training again. Like where are we gonna get business from?
Starting point is 01:26:41 Like this, like you just, you really have to be comfortable with the fact that you have to be flexible and you have to understand that well, now I have to, I have to evolve, I have to like provide something new, something that's gonna stand out. Like, there's always opportunity in those situations to actually make money.
Starting point is 01:26:59 100%. There were lots of businesses that made a lot of money because of the downturn in 2008. Like dollar store businesses exploded in 2008 because obviously they have inexpensive product. Walmart had one of its biggest years. Yeah, so be adaptable as a personal trainer. So if you're a personal trainer
Starting point is 01:27:18 and you're training one-on-one clients, that's a high-end low-volume business. Economy crashes or goes down quite a bit. You're not going to get as many people spending a lot of money on personal training. Bootcamp. Group classes. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:32 Statistically speaking, personal training is an incredible career to be getting into over the last 10 years and right now. It's been on the rise. It's continuing to grow. Last 20 years. Now, what I know I saw back six, seven years ago, and a lot of what I think what connected all of us in this room together was that I saw that the fitness space needed
Starting point is 01:27:53 to evolve and change, or I needed to evolve and change within it, and look at what we do right now. Like, so it's, here's the downfall of getting into training right now, is during hard times, is that it's still a great job, it's extremely competitive. And so back in the days, maybe you could be the one or one of the five trainers in a gym, and it was really easy to pick up clients
Starting point is 01:28:14 because you're one of the five trainers, but that doesn't exist anymore, there's so many. So it's a very competitive market, which now forces us to level up. And what we've done now, which, you know, this is a business that we, I felt like we had to do with the current state of being a personal trainer. And it did, we did have to sacrifice not making a lot of money at the beginning. We do provide a ton of free, but that's just it. We're in this, we're in a Uber, world now, where everything is way cheaper and easier, and a lot of trainers were still hiding their information
Starting point is 01:28:48 behind paid walls. And that's silly, because it's too easy and accessible to get free information now on Google and YouTube and podcasting. And so the real mission was for us to be able to produce content that is more valuable than what was being paid for out there right now. And then once we had done that, we would obtain the audience. And now with the audience, now we have lots of opportunities to monetize and make and
Starting point is 01:29:18 grow and scale. But we had to first take that sacrifice of, you know, working our asses off to put all that information out there to gather the audience. And so I believe as a trainer, you're in that time right now. You're in a time right now where it is an awesome time to be a trainer because I think that the industry is still growing and I still think, and we're in a health crisis. Everyone's getting sicker and fatter. And so absolutely there is a need for you, but there's also a lot more of you and so
Starting point is 01:29:44 it's competitive. So you can't there's also a lot more of you and so it's competitive So you can't just do what everybody else is doing and you can't just follow this follow suit And I think we saw that we saw so many trainers all Mimicking each other and you still see it. I still see it with all these mastermind groups Yeah, they're all fucking teaching each other to do the same shit and it's just a hustle and it's like that shit Might make you a little bit of money right now, but the long game, it ain't the long game at all. So, yeah, I think if you're gonna be a trainer, you've gotta be a forward thinker
Starting point is 01:30:11 and seeing the writing on the wall when it comes to content and free information, and you've gotta be providing that because you know. Be adaptable and learn how to work for yourself. Here's another one, if you're working for a big, expensive gym and you're a personal trainer training, high-end clients, like be able to adapt
Starting point is 01:30:33 and also bring in some side income from running some stuff on your own or be prepared to have to do that entirely. And just be adaptable. The businesses that can move that are nimble and that are not afraid to adapt are the ones that survive. The ones that are afraid to adapt
Starting point is 01:30:50 are so tied to their own self belief that they're gonna, no, we've always succeeded. This is the way it is. You're gonna go the way of blockbuster. You're gonna go the way of some of these businesses that just, they just were two, their egos were too big for them to recognize that the change is coming and that they, you just got to adapt. I mean, do you think if you went back and, do you think a blockbuster could
Starting point is 01:31:12 go back in time that they'd still be out of business? Of course not, they'd go back in time, but see the writing on the wall, be like, hey guys, we need to sell these assets off, we need to be smart, whatever, at the time it might have looked like, oh my god, blockbusters laying off all these people because they're changing directions, but they would still exist, you exist, whereas today they're gone. So you just have to adapt, I think health and fitness will always exist in some way, shape or form, but you may not be able to do if shit goes really
Starting point is 01:31:39 fucking sideways. I don't think you're gonna be doing $100 a session personal training. You might do these big group classes or something. That's what, to me, that is what I thought was on its way out. Not that they're always being the rich and famous. I was gonna say I could play devil's advocate to that because I actually increased my rate substantially.
Starting point is 01:31:56 Yeah, but you're, again, you're talking about the one person. You're just an Andrew. You're also the one percent. Yeah, no, but that's, we have to think in those terms. Just like, how can I survive it? There's somebody out there that has money, how can I get their attention? Right, and so you just have to think differently.
Starting point is 01:32:12 Now, did you also hedge your bets though and also do boot camps and stuff? Yes, there you go. See, that's a very smart strategy because I've always told trainers this myself. I've always told them, look, you got the low volume high dollar and you've got the high volume low dollar. Probably if you want to be safe for whatever
Starting point is 01:32:29 and have a nice mix, it's smart to do both. They both feed each other. You might have clients in the high dollar low volume that eventually are like, I can't afford this anymore. Cool, go to my boot camp. Then you have some boot camp people that are like, oh, I want more personal training or more one, I want cool. Come hire me as a personal trainer.
Starting point is 01:32:44 If the economy explodes and people have lots of money, cool, you've got the expensive one. If it shit goes down, you've got the less expensive one. So you've got that kind of nice buffer. No, I think it's beautiful. If I was a trainer right now, I would have, I would be doing high ticket clients only. So the only ones that was training in actual person,
Starting point is 01:33:00 I would be charging top dollar for those people, which I wouldn't expect to have hundreds of those clients. You just need a handful of those clients that are top dollar. You need like 10. I would be running some sort of a class, would there be a corrective kin stretch type of a, a L-dola type of class, you know, like it's spin on a,
Starting point is 01:33:16 like I like the idea of boot camps, I just don't like boot camps. Right, right, right. I used, I always used them as feeders. I always used group training as a feeder to my personal. Right, so, and then on top of that, with the world that we live in now with social media, is I would 100% have some sort of a virtual business,
Starting point is 01:33:32 whether it be virtual coaching, virtual programs. Oh my God, if you don't have that, your programs, virtual coaching, and then classes, and then high in 101, you could have a very, and what's nice about that, it allows, it gives you the full spectrum, right? So if I have somebody who just, she can't even afford $150 to $250 a month for boot camp
Starting point is 01:33:52 or for classes, they can only afford $50 or $100 something dollars for some sort of a virtual. Yeah, you've got to drop all the way down to the virtual thing, which is obviously the least valuable because you don't actually see the person in person and help them and be able to correct them or whatever. So that's your bottom drop for almost everybody. And then you've got a group class setting
Starting point is 01:34:13 where people that want the one-on-one attention, but can't quite afford your 150 to 200 something dollars an hour. So they're not gonna be able to pay that. So they take the class. And then you have your, like you said, so you use that as a feeder, because sometimes you're gonna capture some of those people. They're gonna be like, hey, I that, so they take the class. And then you have your, like you said, Sal, you use that as a feeder, because sometimes you're going to capture some of those people.
Starting point is 01:34:26 They're going to be like, hey, I want more one-on-one attention. I obviously have all these issues. You keep pointing out to me in class. Can I see you privately? And so they all feed each other. And then when the people, you're really, really high-end people, you correct all their issues, you fix them, you get them in great shape, you either set them down in your group classes and you keep them in, or you drop them all the way down to a virtual and you stay on top of it.
Starting point is 01:34:47 Exactly what I did. Right. And you just service the fuck out of your people and you'll make it through this time around. Yeah, the people that won't make it are the ones that you're so stuck in the way that they do things. Yeah. And I know this is how I've always done things. Those are the ones that I would never just want.
Starting point is 01:35:00 I would never, not now, not in the time we have now, I would never just be one. I wouldn't just be running camps and trying just to scale camps. I wouldn't be just doing private trials. Knowing what we know now about internet, marketing, or just providing value through new media, God, I think every personal trainer should have, should create some free, highly valuable guides, which are kind of like short books.
Starting point is 01:35:28 They should figure out a way to capture emails and they should provide a valuable newsletter or something to these people every single week or month or whatever and grow that list. And then you have this captive audience that you can pull from, but you're also providing a lot of value. That didn't happen 10 years ago.
Starting point is 01:35:45 Nobody did it. Today, I think in 10 years from now, you have to do it. Today it's an advantage. In 10 years, you're gonna have to do something like that. Oh yeah, but again, it's we're in the Uber world now. They're creating the demand for that. You have to do that in order to keep up. So speaking of guides, we have a bunch of free ones
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