Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 869: Training Bodyweight vs Lifting Weights, Genetics Role in Childhood Obesity, Getting Off Birth Control & MORE
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If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go.
MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts.
Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews.
In this episode of Mind, Paul.
Special episode, in the coming to you from Tahoe at the podcast hard event.
Having a great time over here.
So for the first 35 minutes or so, we do our introductory conversation.
We start off by talking about the new Felix Gray frames.
These are blue blocking glasses.
You can wear all day long.
They're not colorful, so you don't look like a weirdo.
If you're somebody who works on a computer
or a phone all day long, this is a must.
So check this out.
We do work with Felix Gray.
If you go to Felix Gray,
GraySpellGRAY, glasses.com,
forward slash mind pump,
you'll get free shipping and free returns.
Then we talk about face swapping technology.
What?
Kind of scary stuff.
Dr. Volta, shit.
Yeah, they're putting justice.
Now I made it in a porn.
Thank you.
You got me first.
Then we talk about vegans wanting to ban animal crackers.
That's right.
They want to ban animal crackers because they make humans feel like our superior.
Please stay away from the crackers.
Find out where I draw the line.
Yeah, not the crackers.
Then I teach everybody about my new lunch technique.
It's kind of working on my lower body.
The benefits of focusing on weak movements, Adam says he has none.
Then we talk about Organifies Green Juice, how it's helping everybody poop regularly
while we're traveling,
Organify of course one of our favorite sponsors.
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Then we talk about late nights and creativity
and the creation of maps and
a ballac, the insanity that went behind that creation, and Adidas versus Nike and
new media. Then we get into the questions. Controversy. The first question was, is
it possible to achieve the same physical and cognitive benefits of lifting by
lifting weights and by body weight training? In other words, if you compare the two,
which ones better to give you the same benefits?
Are they different?
Should you do them both?
Find out in that part of the sentence.
We've covered it.
The next question was, this person is red
that children can be predisposed to being overweight
based on genetics if their parents, grandparents,
are overweight as well.
Do we believe there's truth to this
and are genetics to blame for our obesity?
Damn, that was who's that? Millie Vanille? Yeah.
Very good. There it is. Sorry. And the next question, as three guys in committed relationships,
how would we react or how have we reacted to our significant others wanting to get off
or how have we reacted to our significant others wanting to get off, hormonal, birth control. You know, it's not ideal, but it is convenient.
What is our perspective?
And what do we do now to prevent our partners from getting pregnant?
I don't want more kids.
Unaccident.
And finally, what exactly is Roryd rage?
Is this a real phenomena that is experienced with steroid use?
And did this happen to Adam when
he was on the sauce.
Also, this month, we have released our newest maps program.
Maps strong.
It is a strong man.
Ding dong strong inspired program.
We designed with Robert Obers World's strongest man competitor.
By the way, you can do this program in your gym, in your home gym.
You just need barbell dumbbells, adjustable bench squat rack.
So you don't need any special equipment.
Although, if you have stand bags and ladders and sleds,
we have some variations for you that are totally these PRXs.
Really, really fun.
You can find this new program at mapsstrong.com
and you can find our other maps programs and maps bundles
is where we combine maps programs and put them together.
For particular goals, for example, let's say you're a really serious person
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calm
Doug I want to know what you're showing us on the screen right there
I know we're supposed to we're supposed to mention Felix Gray, but what is this the new lens?
What is the new frame new frame called the Carver what colors?
Let's see here comes in. They're nice.
Yeah. And black like a classy old man explain to me mahogany. That doesn't it like a reddish
color. Wood. Yeah. I think a reddish. The type of wood sounds just yeah.
Regal mahogany mahogany. It's a rich colored wood. It's a very strange word. I like my whiskey.
Mahogany. Mahogany. I like the Felix Gray glasses because they look really good.
They look the best.
I like them when they look good on you Adam when you wear them.
I do like them.
You wear them the most I'd say during the day.
Well, they've been kind of a game changer for me.
That's why.
I mean, I've been for what the headaches.
Yeah, well, I couldn't wait for us to actually talk about it
and get them as a sponsor because Taylor introduced them
to me quite a while ago
and I had been using them and I before that I was using
the orange ones that you, you term me on.
Those are the ones for like super block everything.
Right, and they were working.
Like I like to have no people on public with us.
I have no complaints.
I have no complaints.
They were doing the job, but the thing that I didn't like was, you know, it's very,
very normal for Katrina and I after eight o'clock, nine o'clock and I were laying in bed watching
TV or a movie.
And if I got these blue blockers on that are like orange or those, I mean, it changes the
story.
It's the color.
Oh, yeah.
It just ruins the movie experience for me.
And that was just, it was driving me crazy.
And sometimes I would say, I'll fuck it whatever discipline myself to still do it just for
the better sleep, right?
And then I was like, fuck that.
Well, when Taylor introduced me to these, and then when we called the company and did
kind of, you know, I didn't understand.
Well, they explained the difference.
Yeah, because I couldn't figure out like, how can you do that?
How can it be clear lens?
And then you get the same benefits.
And when they explain the high blue light.
Yeah, it's basically for anytime you're working
on a computer, see what you don't want to do
is you don't want to wear the hard core.
You're home.
Yeah, it's easy for mostly.
Exactly, and you don't want to wear the hard core
blue blockers, the orange ones or the red ones,
which are the most powerful.
All day.
You don't want to wear those all day
because it tells your brain it's nighttime.
And you want your brain to know it's nighttime, excuse me, daytime when it's daytime, and
you want your brain to think it's nighttime when you're indoors and it is nighttime, but
you have electric lights on.
So Felix Ray Glasses are more suitable for day use.
If you work on a computer all day long like most people, then those are the ones you want
to wear because you want your brain to know it're, you should be awake, but you also want to limit your exposure
to the harmful blue rays that electronics tend to put off, and which, then now they're
showing with studies, they're always harmful.
Well, what does that look like?
Like, what, what is it, what are they doing?
Literally destroy cells in your eyes, and over time can cause degeneration of your, of
your eyesight.
So, you know, when you're...
Well, these are some of these things that, you know,
we weren't really talking about 10, 15 years ago.
No, and our moms were right.
Remember that? Don't sit too close on the TV.
Mom was right again.
So, for the Harry Palm thing.
That's wrong.
Yeah, trust me.
Yeah, that's wrong.
I got that out a lot.
Yeah, Justin would have...
Like, oh, thank God. Yeah, so... We just, we never never we we didn't live in we didn't live in a world or a time where, you know,
almost all of everything that you need is at your fingertips now and your phone. I mean, even,
I mean, even when we saw the introduction of the internet and and that was still this big clunky
computer at home that you had to wait till you got home and dial up
and it was a whole process.
It wasn't like you would lug that around,
it wasn't like you were connected,
staring at a screen all day long,
unless you had a specific job that pertained to that.
Where now, even if you don't have a job in quote unquote tech,
you still are consuming,
it's part of everybody's experience.
It's a bit more amount of this tech. And I started to get headaches headaches and shit and I started to notice the effects of my sleep and
and when you turn me on the blue bars and I remember I feel like such an idiot wearing them because it's like this is so pseudo science bullshit
I would never do. No, it's real. I know, but I used it and I would like within an hour those things would like settle me down
and go right to sleep and I felt amazing. No, it works. And what I love about the Felix is I can actually wear them in the day.
They don't make me sleepy, but then I don't get the headaches and I can get ready for
bad.
I use them with light writing.
I have my kids wear them.
Well, it's a reasonable way to kind of combat a lot of the modern things that modern day
lifestyle, what that looks like today.
I mean, obviously the ideal is to follow your circadian rhythms, you know, more, being
more in tune with that process,
but this is gonna constantly interrupt
your daily life now because of the phone,
because of your work conditions.
And today, I'm not wearing them.
I'm not wearing them right now
because I'm up in Tahoe.
We have these beautiful windows,
natural sunlight and it's gorgeous.
And I'm not really on our phones
today. We're interacting with people. Right, so I don't see the value of me really wearing them
all day like a goof, right? But I do when I, there's days when all of us, me looks smarter, though.
I plugged into a computer or on our phones for hours, on hours, on hours and I do see a lot of
value. It is gorgeous up here, though. God, I love Lake Tahoe. I just like taking deep breaths.
It's got to be one of the most beautiful places.
You know what I always forget though,
is the altitude, because I know we're planning
on working out later.
And the last time I was in Tahoe,
I went to the gym and I was like,
wow, I am not, my stand is terrible.
That's terrible, but I forgot that the altitude
makes a difference.
And we're up here for five days or something like that.
We work out every day.
Six days, we work out every day. We work out every day.
You'll have a nice little boost in red blood cells by the time we get back.
I think that should be enough time, right, Doug?
Doug's shaking his head like he knows what I'm talking about.
No, I don't know.
Okay.
It might be enough time to cause the boost in red blood cells.
Dude, you guys are going to change subjects on you.
I read this article.
I've been saving it.
And I was going to show you Justin on the way up here, but it's pretty crazy.
Dude, have you guys seen the face-swapping AI-generated tech that they have now?
I just saw the article.
Bro, someone posted in our form, I saw it somewhere.
Bro, it's scary. It used to be, it wasn't that long ago, like a few years ago, where only
the most sophisticated tech and people who knew how to you who knew how to use it could do this
But now they have these apps
There's an app. I can't remember the name of it where you can literally take someone's face if you have good enough pictures of them
And you can and people are face swapping onto porn
So right now there's crazy face swapping porn right now online where you have actresses where people are taking like
You know act famous actresses putting it on a porn star and I swear to God, you can't,
you almost can't tell the difference. You almost, it looks like, oh my god, this is,
what's her name from Harry Potter? Yeah. That one made a lot of news. What's her name?
You know, the, the, the girl. Yeah, they did one with her.
Reini. Yeah, but I know it's a real man. I don't know. But yeah, this face swapping technology is scary.
Yeah.
They did one with politicians where they got a,
they had an old video of Obama and they made him say
a bunch of shit that he'd never said before.
Yeah.
You imagine the freaking,
so you get to this.
There's still little bits that you could pick up on
as far as it, like,
it's gonna get so much better.
Yeah, but that's gonna,
they're gonna be able to figure that out.
Now is this CGI or is this like, you actually, they're skin-graphing it? No, no, no, that's gonna, they're gonna be able to figure that out. Now is this CGI or is this like you actually,
they're skin-graphing it?
No, no, no, no, no, they're taking like a picture
and then the computer, yes, CGI basically.
Okay, so it's CGI on there.
Yeah, dude, like, so there was one guy who made a big deal,
this guy on Reddit, and I don't know what his name is,
but this is what he does.
And he faced swapped celebrity faces
onto porn performers bodies and he did
one with Gal Gadot. She's the girl from Wonder Woman. He did one with Macy Williams and Taylor
Swift and everybody was like, if people share at first because they thought they were real,
that's how crazy it is, dude. That's how fucking crazy it is.
Well, they didn't know what the last two star wars have been filled with it, right?
Didn't they use a lot of actors just in that. Yeah. Yeah, yeah
Oh, fake app is one. Yeah, forget the general's name, but yeah, they used him like totally artificially
CGI like version of him and they had talked about doing that for the next movie to you know, Princess lay it likes that what you know
General they I should say, but yes, get
it right.
Get it right.
Get it right.
Hello.
But yeah, no one would have called about it.
No, I was just making sure.
I was making sure it comes out.
Cause you know, cause somebody's going to call me out.
Yeah, exactly.
I'm so worried about the nerd.
But yeah, like, they're actually using old footage from the first, like, redo of the entire franchise.
So they're able to, like, take enough of those clips and actually put a storyline together
with her still.
So that's cool, because it's like, it's weird.
It's funky.
You see somebody on there and you still know that it's not them. It's the representation of them.
It's a computer generated.
And it looks clean enough that it is pretty.
Bro, the tech is creepy.
It's getting so good.
Well, don't you see the future of like actors and actresses like just signing a contract?
Like I could see this because you want to make a bunch of commercials with my face.
Right.
Using me, using my voice, using all of that.
Once they've once saved like, you know,
spoken enough things digitally out there, right?
Just like ourselves.
Imagine all the every word that I've ever used has probably been used in this podcast
over 900 episodes.
Oh, we're screwed.
Yeah.
Right.
So somebody can make it totally.
Totally CGI your face and then take you and then use you for marketing and you just
sign the rights to it.
Say, like, oh, you got to go ahead, use me how you want.
And sign the rights.
The technology is getting so good.
And it's going to be so cheap that they'll just do it anyway.
And there's nothing you could do to stop it.
Hopefully I have a lot of fun for it.
I'm not, right?
Like, that's my, my hope is that they create software.
Yeah, they create software to combat it, right?
Because otherwise, yes, it's indistinguishable.
How can you prove yourself in a court of law?
They can't really use that as evidence, you know, if they catch you on film.
Well, it used to be that video was like, there was no arguing it.
If you had a video or picture of someone doing something like, oh, that's it.
But now people can like fake that shit and you can argue and be like, that wasn't me.
So I'm not the one that was so sophisticated.
Yeah, it's kind of creepy when you think about it.
But anyway, I was looking at some of the examples who knows they were in a foreign film right now
Who knows no one wants to take your face
No
Anyway, I got another another article. I'll read you guys and this one was inspired because at this moment
The debate is going on with Chris Cresser and that vegan scientist on yeah, I saw Justin already watch
Yeah, I couldn't help it. He was already he was already watching them all but we're also saving
Let's see what the energy was you know, like if it was going well or not
Yeah, we watched about 10 minutes of it. It was really really good. So so this is the this is the title of the article
about 10 minutes of it. It was really really good. So, so this is the this is the title of the article.
V you're ready for this. Vigins want animal crackers banned. Animal crackers.
Because they make humans feel superior. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. You know, um, are we not? We are, that's why are you? Are we not? Yeah, we are superior. Yeah, that's, I mean, let's,
let's cool. You can love animals all you want for number one.
Yeah, you got to believe that sometimes.
But anyway, you know, here's the problem is that,
I think they're gonna ruin their chances
if they keep pushing shit like this.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, stupid crackers, like, really?
Yeah, because we're not superior.
I thought I got it.
I thought I got it.
And the last time a dog did heart surgery.
Yeah, boo.
That's what I want to do with one of these people.
Oh my god, I'm having a heart attack.
Don't worry.
I'm gonna get this whole equal.
My dog isn't a workout you write down.
It is great lab in ours.
It's really smart.
He's gonna run some lab tests on me.
Boom.
Did you?
No, they do that.
I'm filmed to have this monkey, though,
that revived another monkey.
I don't know if it was.
What? I swear to God if it was. What?
I swear to God, I was watching this documentary
and one of the monkeys actually fell on the track
of this train and it got electrocuted
and it was like out and completely out
and this other monkey came back and started giving it
compressions and then shaking it and plunging it
and water and then it all was feeling
came back to life.
To bring it back to the scene, yeah.
Wow.
Yeah, they have it on film.
But that's like, yeah, that was interesting.
That is crazy.
Monkey's saving other monkeys lives.
Yeah.
That's the beginning of the, what's that movie called?
It's Planet of the Apes.
It's Planet of the Apes, yeah.
I like this.
Maybe that'll play out.
Planet of the Apes.
Did you watch the original one?
No, I did.
Oh, my dad.
You've seen the original, of course.
You have to watch the original. Dude, you have to watch the original. You know, I did. Oh, you've seen the original, of course, you have to watch the cast and do you have to watch the original, you know, I wish the
problem is you've already been spoiled for you. You already know at the
ending, it's but the original plan of the of the apes was such a fucking
well-made site. One of the best sci-fi movies of all time shot the ending
shocked people because you did not expect that to happen. You know the story
of the original one. So it shows these
These humans who obviously crashed on a planet because they're astronauts or whatever and you know one of them dies
The one of them gets captured the other one gets cryogenically frozen. Yeah came back right. Yeah It one of them gets shot in the throat so we can't talk
But then all of a sudden these he's getting chased by these apes. They shoot him
He can't talk they capture him and he gets thrown in these cages with other humans.
And none of them can talk.
And he can't talk.
He's got shot in the throat.
And all these apes are super smart.
Whatever.
And so the whole movie is going through this whole thing.
And he's trying to escape.
At the end of the movie, he finally gets away and goes to the,
to like the band part of the, of the, of the land or whatever that
all the monkeys say don't go to.
He goes there.
And then he sees a statue of liberty
that's kind of buried up to its chest, sideways,
and he realizes that he had been cryogenically frozen
on a spaceship, and his spaceship returned back to Earth.
It was still Earth.
It wasn't a different planet.
He realized he was on Earth and that humans had destroyed themselves.
Fucking great movie.
And you don't see that coming until they...
You do not see that coming. you do not see that coming. Yeah
You've not see that you're coming other you think it's like Star Trek where they landed on another planet
So it didn't when they did the one with Mark Walgberg
They try and they try to recreate that a little bit. Yeah, not really I mean
I don't like the one with more over I like the recent ones kind of to show the backstories
It's because they made the monkeys cooler because of the CGI's gotten way better. Yeah.
I feel like they've really been able to nail down like animal movement in a believable way.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But the original one was the best one.
Anyway, I did a new exercise that I did, I had never done before.
Really?
Yeah, I'm surprised.
Yeah, no, no.
Well, in a way that I've never done it before.
So you guys know how I've only been doing split stance exercises now for my lower body now
for it's probably been about a month and a half or two months or so.
I haven't done any barbells, muscle, advice of ripped out.
Yeah, and because I'm trying to balance myself out because I noticed when I did lunges,
my rights, there was a discrepancy between my right and left.
And I also noticed when I squatted really heavy, sometimes I would get a little bit of pain
in my SI joint on my left side. and see between my right and left. And I also noticed when I squatted really heavy, sometimes I would get a little bit of pain
in my SI joint on my left side.
And I know you guys have been talking so much about how
like Bulgarian split stand squats,
increased your squat and all that other stuff.
So I've been doing it for a while
and I'm getting better.
I'm actually noticing more muscle development.
I can't go as intense as I do with squats yet
because my form isn't as great yet.
So my intensity's like moderate, but I'm still getting good results.
But one thing that I did the other day, which I thought would which worked really well,
is I incorporated some like box squats.
You know when you do box squats, you sit on a box, allow your body to,
you still keep your core tight and everything, but you actually relax your legs for a second
stand up to develop that, you know, to eliminate that, that whatever,
what is it called that, that reflex, that stretch reflex you get
from when you lower weight and come back up.
So what I do with the lunges, I took some mats,
I put them on the floor, split my stance over the mats,
went down into my lunge, kneeled on it,
and sat there for three seconds, and then came back up.
So I actually sat at the bottom.
No momentum.
No momentum, sat at the bottom, stayed tight,
got everything ready,ated what I need to
Pulled my knees apart a little bit got my you know my gluteus media's activated a little bit and then came back up
Wow, what a great. Have you guys ever done anything like that with the lunge before?
I haven't timed it like that and used the mask. With Bulgarian squad I have yeah
But I when I switched over and this was just a few years ago when I think I told you that
I started doing more of the bogean and I think what really ramped that up for me was the first time that I hung out with Jordan Shallow
and he was just like, oh, this is...
He argued for it, because...
Yeah, he did argue for it big time.
And so I thought, you know what, I've never really,
you know what I've never done
as much as I've done the bogeyner in split squad
is I've never actually tried to keep it in my program
for a while.
It's always been an exercise that I rotate into my routine
to give me a break from squats or something. I've never like kept it in my program for a while. It's always been an exercise that I rotate into my routine to give me a break from squats or something. I've never like kept it in my program and
tried to progress it. And I absolutely did. And there was a ton of carryover, not just
to my squat, but I also noticed a big difference in my legs building. Like I built a lot of
muscle from doing that.
That's the thing that it's so here's a create and it's of course This just proves what you know, I've known through years of training
Clients in myself and you always forget right you always forget when you apply it to yourself sometimes that if I do a new
Exercise that I suck at even though I can't lift is heavy and even though I can't push it is hard
The the potential for improvement is so big. Yeah, because it's a new a new movement that you just get crazy results from it.
You know what I'm saying? I'm not gonna add, you know,
30 pounds to my squat. I've been squatting consistently for years,
but I may add 30 pounds to a movement I never do, just to get better at it.
It just shows a whole new landscape, look, all new options for you to get better at.
That's exactly how I look at it. I don't look at it.
I don't stick with what I'm awesome at all the time.
It's just, to me, that's just a flawed mentality going into it.
I'm there to grow.
And so, you know, that is definitely something that,
you know, I definitely like assess to see where
I could benefit again from going back
to doing, you know, Bulgarian squastum
where you're in a lateral training,
doing things that are a little bit more functional coming back
to bilateral type movements.
Yeah, what about, what exercises can you say that you suck at?
You think that, okay, I could probably focus on
on that movement there.
Right now, probably at like core.
Oh, core work.
Yeah, just because I've, I've been so like total body
inclusive, like so lots of compound movements and
Not much isolation there with the core and I feel and I feel every time I get angry and I know that right away
It's like oh, I have to get the shickie. Yeah, you get shaking and the thing is you just know you're not as strong as you could be
And so it's frustrating because you only get a few reps
But then you're like oh, I need to work on this and And that's all I think. Okay. Let's put attention here.
What about you Adam?
I hate to copy Justin, but that's exactly where I'm at right now is. So I addressed my
ankle mobility and all the limiting exercise there. I addressed my hip and all the limiting
exercises there. I did the same thing for my shoulders, all that over the last like three
to five years. I've put a, I've shoulders. All that over the last like three to five
years, I've taken each one of those and put a lot of energy and focus on and progressed it greatly.
And I'm very, very happy with my mobility and all those joints. And the one area that I have not
addressed that I've known, I need to address on myself, is my core strength. And I know that's
directly correlated with my low back pain when my back bothers me if I'm not
Training my core or doing ab work because I already have that natural tilt Yeah, you do have that if I'm not a stick out thing
And if I don't address it, it's a problem. Yeah, no squats like I'm okay
Like I can go about my day and be fine
But if I'm not training my abs and core to counter that and I notice I feel
Amazing when I do. When
I actually put it into my regimen. So that is something that I'm neglecting right now.
And it's just tedious, dude. It's the hardest work that I know I need to do.
Yeah. The one made the biggest difference for me with core training was a bleak training.
When I started really hitting my bleeks with like rotation and resistance with rotation,
I noticed a huge difference with all my
lifts. Like a huge, I just felt so, so solid and strong. And you know, your, your body is always
limited by it, by the weakest link. So however strong you are, what's limiting you is the weakest part
of you. So rather than focusing on the strongest part of you to increase your lift, sometimes focusing
on those weak parts, and then you'll notice those lifts. And if it the strongest part of you to increase your lift, sometimes focusing on those weak parts,
and then you'll notice those lifts.
And if it takes more energy for you to stabilize,
you know, that's a discrepancy,
that's something that, you know,
your body has to account for that,
while then also trying to perform the movement.
So if you can eliminate that,
it's stronger there,
you don't have to allocate as much,
you know, energy and resources in that direction,
and you can focus on the lift.
No, for me, it's unilateral stuff and higher rep stuff.
Always higher rep stuff is always something I always hate and then doing the unilateral
stuff.
You know what got me doing a lot of good unilateral stuff with some of the exercises
in MAP strong, where you're doing these dumbbell presses where one is staying in one position
of the other ones.
And that was really good.
The higher reps stuff with the Am rap, so like the Am rap overhead presses that there are
in the work sessions, like really, you know, that higher reps because I never really
play in that challenge.
It's challenging, but I get progress.
I get results out of it.
You know, I start to see my body change.
So it just always reminds me that sometimes getting into those uncomfortable positions, you
know, with your training, just make the biggest impact.
You know, I did that years ago with pull ups.
Long time ago, I was super, super row, you know, dominant.
Always did rows, always did deadlifts, always did rows, always the deadlifts.
And it got to the point where I could barbell row, you know, with decent form, 300 pounds,
but I could do, you know, 12 pull-ups, and that was it.
And I remember thinking like, oh, there's something,
there's a little bit of a problem here.
So I made it a focus of doing lots of pull-ups,
a lot of weighted pull-ups, and the back development
I got from it was just incredible.
And the way, of course, everything else felt.
Well, I've never met, I've never met a trainer,
a client, a bodybuilder that I think is just in us.
We're always going to naturally gravitate to the things that we enjoy we like or that we're good at.
I don't think anyone listening to this podcast right now. Maybe, and if they are, you're the one
percenters. Because maybe I've met a handful of people that can honestly say, you know, I'm really good about phasing my programming
and getting myself out of a rep range
and changing my tempo up and doing it in a structured way.
I mean, a lot of people are like, oh yeah,
no, I changed my rep range.
I said, oh yeah, no, I changed all of a sudden,
like, well, how do you do it?
And it's just like, oh, you know, sometimes I do this
exercise this way.
It's like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Do you do it long enough to get your body to get good at it.
Right.
Do you do it long enough to get exactly to get the benefits of the, and I'm definitely
guilty of this.
I was notorious for being somebody who would say exactly that.
That, yes, I do all those things and I vary all that.
But I, what I'm bad at is actually structuring it, committing to three to six weeks of training
a certain way and measuring that that then moving out of it.
And it's tough because right when you need to be moving out of it is right when you're seeing the most results in loving it.
You know, you're getting good at it.
The body's adapting to it. You're getting good. You're seeing results. You're loving it.
And so it's really easy to enjoy that and carry that on for weeks and months and some people years.
This is one of my number one arguments for resistance training.
We talk a lot about how resistance training is, you know, we consider the best form of exercise
and it's the one form of exercise everyone should be doing.
Not the one form of exercise, only form of exercise you should be doing, but the one you absolutely
should be doing in conjunction with those stuff. And one of my arguments is,
there is no form of exercise that is modifiable
and adjustable as resistance string.
Nothing, nothing comes close.
Every other form of exercise
is fits within this kind of structured,
you know, you know, lattice that you have to follow.
In other words, like swimming,
swimming is a form of exercise.
But you know swimming when you see it and it looks a particular way and that's it.
You can't really modify it too, too much.
You can modify it but not too much.
Running is like that, Pilates is like that, yoga is like that.
All forms of exercise are like that.
Resistence training is more of a philosophy than anything.
Resistence just training refers to just using resistance and I can train or I can train anybody
with resistance. I don't care I can train anybody with resistance.
I don't care how disabled you are.
It doesn't matter.
Short fat.
What your goals are if it's endurance, stamina, strength, power, whatever resistance training
can, I can mold it and shape it to maximize your progress and results for whatever you're
looking for and for whatever type of body type you have.
So I'm just saying, there's not a single pursuit that strength training does not have carryover
into whatever.
It'll benefit everything.
Name a pursuit.
I don't care if you want to be some yogi
and that's all you want to do,
stretch it.
There's benefits from strength training
that will carry over into that pursuit.
There's not a single pursuit
that you could potentially want to do for your body, right?
Whether it be overall health or performance,
that strength training does not have major carryover. For that, more carryover is an almost any other single thing. And again, because it be overall health or performance, that strength training does not have major
carriers for that.
More carriers than almost any other single thing.
And again, because it's modifiable, I could train a yogi with resistance to improve their
yoga.
A yogi who goes and does long-distance running may not get that much of an improvement,
you see what I'm saying?
It's very modifiable.
I can scale it.
I can change it for anybody, especially when you talk about free weights
They fit anybody's body. You don't have to be any shaper size to work with free weights, especially when they're applied properly
And again, it's my favorite thing about it is you know, here's a deal like all of the maps programs are designed around resistance training
And we design them in a way where if you're really you know, and and we, this is the way we're thinking, right, we think of the ultimate listener, like, okay, who's the ultimate listener that's
listening to our podcast?
It's somebody that really values maximizing their body's health, mobility, strength, everything.
There's one to maximize how they feel.
So the way we designed the maps programs was to take you through all these different ways
of using resistance training and all of them benefit you.
So you could train with a, with a strong man inspired program like the one we released this month.
You could train with maps and a ballic, which is more of your, you know, straight,
strength type program.
You could train with maps performance, which is more for athletic mobility type stuff and,
you know, aesthetic, which is your body builder type stuff.
And your body will benefit from going through these different modalities, but you're using
resistance and all of them.
It's the form of exercise that, again, it's that one tool that you can use.
It's like a Swiss Army knife, except everything you pull out is an effective version of it.
Not like a Swiss Army knife where you pull out the screwdriver and it sucks.
The scissors that you never use.
Yeah, you know what I mean?
It uses those scissors.
No, I don't know.
See, when you use those scissors? Clip your toe. What do you cut with? That's like a what I mean? It's just those scissors. No, I don't know. See, when you go scissors,
Clip your toe.
Yeah, what do you cut with?
That's like a roach clip. That's what that is.
Is that what they're like?
It's kind of, yeah, it's about all you can use it for.
Where were roach clips used for back?
Was that just so you didn't get the,
yeah, I know what they used for for a joint,
but why were they,
why were they a big deal?
Just hold the joint.
Well, big, get every bit of it.
Oh, that would have been better.
Yeah, for sure.
It's back when cannabis was out.
Yeah, like you couldn't get it.
Yeah, super hard to get.
Yeah, like I mean, that's getting a joint, a big deal. Now, now you look at's back when Canada's like you couldn't get it. Yeah, super hard to get. Yeah, like I mean That's getting a joints a big deal now. You look at a joint you smell like
This was two days old
Get the new one half a one throw it away. So organifies getting ready to make a
A freaking Halloween like flavor. They're gonna do like I think pumpkin spice. Oh, they're gonna change like for what a green juice
The gold the gold
The gold I think they're gonna make like a pumpkin spice.
I don't even know if I'm supposed to say that or not,
because I don't know if it's actually released,
but I wouldn't want to talk to the guy on the...
We might have to bleep this out.
Oh, fuck it.
All right, let's take a look at Slap on the wrist.
Yeah, let's be honest, the person who probably would say no
to that is probably not even listening to podcasts.
If I have somebody of some other intern,
and by the time they probably gets out to the...
Dude, hopefully it'll be a... They're a green juice, it's a life saver when we travel, because we don't even listen to podcasts. I have somebody have some other intern. And by the time they probably gets out to them.
Dude, hopefully it'll be okay.
They're green juice is a life saver when we travel
because we don't need fucking vegetables at all.
We don't eat.
We don't eat.
We don't eat at all.
And when we do, it's, you know what I mean?
It's not that good.
And the green juice keeps me pooping.
I don't know what, I don't know what trip it was
when we first started using it.
And it definitely keeps me.
Oh, I know.
It was when, yeah, we were, it was a paleo, it was a paleo FX, wasn't it definitely keeps me. Oh, I know. It was when,
Oh, you do remember that.
Yeah, it was a paleo,
it was at paleoFX, wasn't it, don't you?
Oh, yeah.
Right.
And they gave us, in the, the Goody bags,
they gave us green juice packets.
Oh, is this box?
Which is this box?
Yes, this is the single,
single serving packets.
Yes, that's really like,
like, slip.
And this was before we were sponsored with them.
Oh, this was,
and we're all super skeptical with supplement.
We are probably the worst people to approach
your supplements, because we automatically-
I do not know how they were so persistent.
We automatically think your product sucks.
That's our automatically the fault.
Let's go to.
But Doug was the one to use it.
Remember, we're all there.
We're reading terribly, and Doug's like,
you guys got to try this green powder,
and they gave us from this company or whatever,
and all of us were kind of shrugging it off.
By the end of the trip, it was gone and we were fighting each other over each one of them.
Oh, it takes pretty good.
That's why too.
I mean, the ad of all the green just figured that out, which is a lot helpful.
It did, but it does help the pipes moving.
Is that the, so when you're off on your diet, like when we travel, is that the first thing
that you notice is like your stool is off really bad?
Oh, yeah, I'll alternate so it's like oh, I'm not going like I normally should and then it goes in the opposite direction
See I get puffy and lethargic. That's what I feel you get. Oh really? Yeah, like put like you hold water
Yeah, oh, and you just start feeling kind of tired. Yeah, did you go to bed late last night? You get some good sleep
Oh, I was pretty late. Yeah, I was wondering about that. Yeah, yeah
I stayed up pretty late. Yeah, I forget who I was talking to late last night. I some good sleep. I was pretty late. Yeah, I was wondering about that. Yeah, I stayed up pretty late.
I was tired.
I forget who I was talking to late last night.
I was talking to you.
You never go to bed on time.
All right, Mike.
Ever.
You're like a kid.
Well, you know, it's funny.
Eli was out talking to me by the fire yesterday
and he asked about, it was funny because he was prompting
some video clips and he asked about like morning routines.
And I'm like, down the worst guy for that. And I say, it really forced me to
kind of evaluate like why that is. And I have an idea of why I'm so
anti that. Because I was managed by somebody who was an X
Marine for so many years. And he was so much about morning routine
regiment rituals and this and that. And I just, one of my favorite books that I read
was First Break All the Rules.
And I come from a different camp.
You're still like, fuck it, I'm breaking it up.
Right, right, and I think we all share that sentiment.
And it's not to knock those out there
that have found a morning routine that they do
that it definitely makes their life better
and lots of motivational speakers speak to that. I've just I've found a way to be
very successful with not having great mornings. And super honesty. It's what it
is. And like I so like when someone asked me a question like that and he's I
know he's I know he was searching for like a high pants or like oh I get
open I have my coffee and then I have this and then I refave myself.
Then I meditate and then I juice light and like I have all these like, no, I, what I do normally
is whatever time and then because my time fluctuates, sometimes I have to be up by 6 a.m.
because I got something going on really early.
Sometimes I get to sleep in all the way till 738, rarely ever later than that.
But my goal is to wake up as close to possible that time.
Yeah, but we're far too-
I treasure sleep.
Yeah, I do.
It's my highest part.
And I'm also highly productive at night.
Am I most creative times?
So when you talk about visions
and within the business and ideas,
and I write a lot at night time,
so I get a lot of that.
So I'm very much like you.
I've trained myself to go to bed early and wake up early because it works better with
my schedule with kids, with all that stuff.
But if I was left to my own devices, right?
I love staying up to the twilight hours of the evening.
I get very creative, I get very hyper at best conversations and then sleeping in
and then getting up and taking my time, that's my natural tendency,
but I've had to train myself to do the opposite.
So what do you think?
Do you guys think that that's good or bad?
Do you think, I really believe it's a very individualized thing.
I think so.
So they've done studies on this and they find that
those are the most creative hours.
When they interview authors and scientists and whatnot
that they tend to come up with their ideas
like after midnight, it's that late,
those late hours that they tend to do that.
Now I know when we travel, we tend to go to bed late
because that's what happens.
10 o'clock rolls around, 11 o'clock rolls around.
What are we always doing?
We're sitting around and we're having
really, really good conversation
and nobody wants to go to bed.
And I've just trained myself to be like,
all right guys, I gotta go to bed otherwise.
Cause then we got the product like here,
like we're in Tahoe right now,
we're doing the podcast, hard event.
You know, the first podcast started at 8 a.m.
which means we need to be up and ready,
everything ready to go by seven.
Right.
So we can't be going to bed late otherwise
we're gonna be, we're gonna kill ourselves.
So, but you know, but it's funny watching you
cause you're like a kid man, like you trying to get
you to go to bed is like, it's like having a kid.
No, no, what creativity thing is interesting though. Like, you know, after it does get like
sort of after hours, because I've experienced that multiple times. And it's like when you get
to pass sort of, you know, a certain point, you get loopy and you get kind of like silly,
just because you're so tired. But it's like, then it's like almost like your command center,
right, like the prefrontal cortex,
like you're just like, you kind of put that on,
you know, like autopilot or something.
I don't know, it's like I can think differently,
like when I'm a little bit more relaxed.
Because creativity literally is defined by thinking differently.
And so I think when you're up late and you're tired,
you are thinking differently,
and you see things a little bit differently,
and so you start to think of it.
It's also very quiet,
and there's not a lot of distractions,
and I'm completely in my mind.
Yeah, yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
In the daytime with people talking,
it's not any distractions.
Yeah, but getting up early,
and maybe if you're up at 4.30,
it's pretty quiet,
and very, very, very, very, very, very, very,
distraction, so I can say,
probably nearer to that.
I think there's, I think there's really, I mean, there's two types of people and then everything to that. I think there's I think there's really I mean
There's two types of people and then everything in between right I really believe that there's people that and that but that's why I
Think it's funny when you see a lot of these guys that write books around it and they make a big deal around it like
We'll maybe write a book called how to end your day
Yeah, or how to not be structured. Yeah, yeah
It's because I I do believe that and I mean we have people within this company that are like this that I
Know are much more creative than they are structured and allowing that creative freedom to go to
Flow when it wants to flow and not try and force it and organize it there
But they they perform better and then there's other people who don't have that creative side
And so they need to treat them differently.
And so they need to create systems.
And they need to create.
And that's the team.
That's why you have to have both on your team.
I am not, you guys know me.
I am not a structured person, but I can be very,
dude, when I, you know, MAP's in a ball,
I created that at fucking two o'clock in the morning.
I wrote from, it was probably 1 a.m. till 6 a.m.
that I wrote the entire program. And it was all spurred on by one article and half a joint and I was literally midnight
I read this article and New England Journal medicine and I'm like holy shit. This is interesting and
Five hours later I wrote the program and I called Doug that same that next day
I'm like I got the program that I think we can put online and sell and it's I think it's fucking awesome
And I'm gonna test it, you're gonna test it.
I'm gonna have people test it.
And we'll see what happened.
But it was literally middle of the night.
Kids are sleeping, I'm up by myself
and I'm just going crazy.
My iPhone nuts are my iPhone nuts.
Your iPhone nuts.
My iPhone nuts are ringing right now.
Yeah, it's just a, don't tell you what.
This iPhone's got balls.
Yeah. My iPhone notes. It's a, don't tell you what. This iPhone's got balls. Yeah.
My iPhone notes.
It's a little fruity and slippery.
Yeah, it was.
That's it.
My big iPhone notes.
I'm just hanging it up.
Have you guys seen the new Jack in the box commercial?
I fucking love their advertising.
I have, I have such an appreciation.
Talk about a company that I don't even give money to
or care to shit some about, but I have such an appreciation.
They know their market.
Yes, they do such a good genius.
God, they're so good.
His latest one is like they have these new,
he's promoting his teriyaki balls.
And you know, if you can imagine balls, sounds like balls.
And so the whole commercial is like, you gotta try my balls.
It's look at my balls.
Look at it.
And it's just so good.
They do such, he does such a good job.
You know why those fast food places target men so much? Because they care less about, uh, about healthy. I good. They do such a good job. You know why those fast food places target men so much?
Cause they care less about, about healthy.
No, I know.
They do.
They care less about healthy and they identified that.
Right.
So now these fucking fast food companies go after these young men and stoner, man.
Yeah.
Cause they know that those are the guys that are going to buy.
You know, when you see great marketing and you see this with beer, a lot of beer companies
are really have some great that have some great marketing companies
that are not only great at marketing at that time in Arab,
they also evolve with times that that's why I find impressive.
So when you see a company like Jack on the box,
like some of these beers, like they've lasted 20, 30, 40,
some of you are some more.
Because they stay relevant.
Because they do, they stay relevant.
They know how to evolve their marketing.
And it's really, I love it.
A lot of thought goes into that.
That's why it is totally respectable,
because I know so many businesses
that just stay completely flat and like
where they are right now is what they're gonna write out.
Well, a lot of them are still there right now.
And we're banking on a lot of companies
finally figuring it out,
and which is what really mind put media is
all about is and this weekend is an example of what we're really trying to evolve to is
this ability to create incredible top notch quality content for brands and companies that
we align with and we like.
I think that this is going to be the future of advertising for a lot of companies. Because just a lot of them haven't figured out the conversion.
The future is working with social media and new media influencers.
You have to.
An example of that that we see in big company like Nike and Adidas.
Nike has remained the same and Adidas has adopted that and has evolved.
For the last five to Taylor. Is Adidas has adopted that and has evolved and for the you know in the last like I don't know five didn't tailor
Is Adidas surpassing yes, which is crazy because Nike was the behemoth right and now I don't know what happened
I know I know Nike with the the calling cap and anything they did I forgot I should have brought the staff
Well the last time I looked they were they they did a hope they got more sales yes as a result of that day. Yeah
They sold out
Either way sales as a result of the day. Yeah, yeah, yeah, well, of course they sold out controversy either way. Yeah, so that was a win for Nike all the way around.
Regardless of where you stood on it politically and then if you got if you're
one of the silly people that caught up got caught up and making a big deal
about it politically, it was all about making money. Yeah, it's money and they
did a fucking they did a great job. Yeah, brilliant because you tied right off
of it. As you argued about it or you burned your shit. Brilliant.
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Alright, our first question is from like a stranger.
Is it possible to achieve the same physical and cognitive benefits of lifting weights by
using only body weight exercises?
Mmm.
These are we cognitive and what else?
In physical, basically, can you get the same results from body weight exercises. Mmm. Basically cognitive and what else? In physical better.
Basically, can you get the same results
from body weight training as you can from...
Same? No.
The same? No.
Can you get lots of results?
Yeah.
You know, cognitive.
I mean, yeah, I can see a lot of it.
You'll argue you can.
I'll argue you can, but here's why I understand
where you're coming from.
And here's why I also agree with you.
You can because resistance is resistance, right?
So anytime you're training with resistance, it really doesn't matter if it's a weight
or your body or whatever your body, you know, it adapts to that resistance.
Here's why I also agree with Adam.
You know, moving your body around space and creating, being creative enough to hit your body from the same kinds of angles and whatever.
It's just so much more difficult with your body and also your body weighs one weight.
You know what I'm saying? So like I can, you know, if I'm doing overhead presses, theoretically I could say it's doing handstand push-ups,
hits the shoulders the same way it's overhead presses, but most people can't, don't have the strength to press their body weight up in there.
So they can go much lighter and weights are very moldable and modifiable just like we talked
about earlier.
Yeah, you could, I mean, you could play devil's advocate a little bit to that, you know,
with, you know, body weight training and that.
I know I could come closer to my body's, like, capacity.
So like as far as me being in tune with my body on another level, connected-wise,
so I can communicate better from fingers to toes. I can control my body in range in space,
in movement patterns, much more effectively once I've established where I am in space, my proprioception, you know, how to manipulate forces against me.
And, you know, so it's totally different mentality,
but then to build off of that, you have to have weights.
You do, and then here's the other thing too.
Like some exercises, let's say you wanna build
maximum strength and size in your legs, okay?
With body weight, I mean, I guess you could,
you could go to the point where you're doing one leg
at pistol squats and stuff like that,
but you're still, you're limited by your resistance again.
Right.
You know, I can get under a barbell
and theoretically I could squat four or 500 pounds.
You can't simulate that with just your body weight.
Yeah, no, I could argue that the body weight thing
is a safer and maybe even better for a lot of people., I could argue that the body weight thing is a safer
and maybe even better for a lot of people.
Like I could argue that part,
but if can't you be cool as a prerequisite, right?
But to get the same, no,
but if there's a way I would answer this question
as I say, if someone asked me a more,
this question more specific, which would be,
Adam, if you had the same person, same genetics, right?
And you had them for 16 weeks.
And one person you can only use body weight
and the other person you can use resistance training.
Who do you get the most results for?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, that's a very easy.
So asking the way he's asking,
there's a little more vague and so we can have this dialogue on
and make debates on why body weight training can be more.
And because I, man, I tell you what, when you look at some of the most
healthiest joints out there, like your gymnast and people like that,
like you want to talk about people that have great strength and control their
body and that keeps that right. And they maintain it for a lot of right.
And so there's something to be said about that. But even that person,
if you had them at day one and you have have the option to end the goal, right?
You did it right, right?
You have to have good application.
Right.
And your goal was, can't who can build the most muscle in the next 16 weeks?
You, again, that person still loses, right?
So they lose to the person who has the resistance.
Now, they did say cognitive benefits.
And I liked that they said that because there is a very distinct adaptation difference
between close chain movements and open chain movements.
When I'm lifting weights, I'm balancing
and moving away from my body, for example.
When I'm doing body weight movements,
I'm manipulating my body in space.
And they both work in train the brain differently.
They do it very different.
Now they both have their own benefits.
So one isn't better than the other,
but they both work different parts of your brain,
and I think if you want to maximize,
because there are real cognitive benefits
to learning how to do new movements
and control new movements.
Because when you're doing those,
people think you're just training the muscle,
like, oh, great, you added 30 pounds to your squat,
or great, you could do a handstand push up now.
Your muscles are much stronger.
Yes, your muscles did get stronger,
but there's a lot more that's going on there.
Your brain literally had to create new neural pathways
to learn how to manipulate that weight
and control that weight and to fire the muscles
in the right way, and to understand
where your body is in space.
That's a great one with body weight movements.
Like, when I'm lifting weights,
my body's always in the same, typically same position. I'm either standing sitting or laying down
There's really nothing else when you're doing body weight movements. You're upside down
Your sideways you're twisting. Yeah, sometimes you're doing all of those things in one movement all at the same time
And that's a real skill you can see expressed in extreme form. Yeah, you could break it down just for motor control
I mean, that's right. Yeah, I'm Yeah, that requires so much more brain power to do that
than it does to do a bench press.
Much more.
And you're talking about like opening clothes, Shane, I love that.
Like, you know, taking that as far as like, you know,
external forces versus, you know, intrinsic forces.
Like intrinsic,
another good point.
Production, which is, I feel like a gigantic step
people skip right past. Well, this is the I feel like a gigantic step people skip right pass.
Well, this is the magic in Maps White
and when it blows everybody away.
Maps anywhere was, you know,
we did some of that in there that I think,
I mean, when I think of a cool bodyweight program
and that was, we were all really proud of that.
We just did market it very well.
Right, yeah, we didn't market it.
We didn't market it.
Because we know it's not, it's not a popular concept.
It's not something that people like jumping up and down
to receive, but it's very valuable, you know, it's not a popular concept. It's not something that people are like jumping up and down to receive,
but it's very valuable.
It's going to help you tremendously.
Everybody that if you've used two or three of our traditional programs
to take a piece of mass wide,
even if you don't go all the way through it and insert it into your program,
you'll get some great benefits.
Because of the types of exercises and movements
that we've included in that are so unique to what we're talking about right now.
But proprioceptive ability is a very important ability to develop.
Now, a lot of your balance is dependent on that.
It's dependent on strength as well, but your ability to step off the wrong step and
catch yourself and know where you're at or, you know, an extreme version, by the way,
of this, for people wondering what that means is,
you ever watch a high-level competitive diving,
and you watch these people jump off a diving board
and spin in twist their body in space,
and then know when to point their body upside down
in the right angle to produce the least amount of splat.
It's almost superhuman.
It's very important.
That's an extreme form of it.
You take any one of the average person,
and you spin them around, they have no idea where they're facing what's going on.
Well, think about that. What's happening and even subconsciously, and that's why you
can make the argument about the body weight being more beneficial cognitively is because
the amount of math that the brain is having to compute. Oh, yeah. That's exactly what's
going on. That is how in order to do a summer salt spin twist, whatever you call those dives, six
times and hit the water with that, your brain is doing highly complicated math at a super
fast rate that you don't even, you don't know.
It's all predictive, right?
It's just like that example with throwing a baseball at an infant, you know, it's like,
it's just like, it's crazy because there's so much math that goes into that to learn to be able to catch the ball
You know, so you obviously don't want to go out. I would have to say you know when it comes to building muscle and burning body fat
Wates probably have the edge when it comes to producing functional
Results where you know every day life moves easier. You're stronger, less risk for injury, joints are healthy,
proper body weight trainings probably edges out freeways.
Now, the real answer is this,
and this is why, you know, one thing I hate about questions
like this is it forces you to do the whole ease
of either or thing, but the reality is,
both, I'm belong.
Both, you need to be doing both.
If you want best, I don't care if it's muscle growth
or functional, you know, progress.
They're most valuable. Do them both, there's a lot of value in both, and look, I don't care if it's muscle growth or functional, you know, progress. They're most valuable.
Do them both.
There's a lot of value in both.
And look, I'll give you an example.
Here's a great example.
A lap pull down versus a pull up.
Okay.
Now technically it's the same movement.
Technically I'm, I'm bringing the, you know, the arms down by my sides, whether I'm sitting
on a, on a bench and pulling away down or I'm holding on to bars and pulling my
weight up.
But experience tells us,
because I can tell you right now,
you talk to anybody who's been working out for years,
does a pull up versus a pull down, do they feel different?
Absolutely.
They feel very different.
It's a different feel, it's a different skill.
A lot of stabilization has to happen,
there's your body, there's all kinds of factors.
And both of them give you great results,
and I hate comparing them head to head
because I would say
Do them both. Yeah one does not replace the other one
But I highly recommend to someone like that especially when they ask a question like this is to
You know focus on one for a while because you're trying to tease something else
You're looking to see which one gives you a cognitive boost. Well find out. Yeah find out find out and actually
Give yourself a dedicated amount of time where you actually
just strength train, pay attention, pay attention if you notice benefits that way. And just be,
that's all you're looking at and measuring. You're not looking at muscle being gained. You're not
looking at performance. You're not going to get anything else other than you're trying to boost
your cognitive function. That's all you're trying to do. And then you move over and you do all
body weights up and see which one you notice the most from. That's right. More than likely, the changing of whichever direction is what you're going to feel.
Just because it's different.
Right.
Just because it's different.
So it's a whole new skill you have to learn, a whole new pathways you have to create
and all that.
I tell you what though, exercise in general, and especially specifically resistance training
gives you a cognitive boost right away in my experience, right away.
If you're at work and you're just feeling, oh, you know,
like I can't think or whatever, do some squats and some pushups or whatever, give yourself
about five to 10 minutes, sit back down on your desk and watch what happens.
Yeah.
Next question is from AYALC 96.
I have read that children can be predisposed to be an overweight based on genetics, if their
parents, grandparents, et cetera,
are overweight as well.
Do you believe there is some truth to this?
Genetics has become...
This is it, touchy.
It is.
Genetics is the favorite excuse for any health problem.
We need to be very clear here, okay?
I'd first look to life.
If you go back, look, I'll tell you something right now.
Okay, I got my first personal training certification
about 20 years ago, okay?
So 20 years ago, I got my first, not that long ago.
We're talking a generation ago, not that long ago.
When I got my first certification,
it taught us different aspects of health,
and one of the things that talked about was diabetes.
And they taught us the two different types of diabetes.
And the way they communicated it was
There's type one diabetes and then there's adult onset diabetes. That's what they called it and they called it adult onset because
You got it as an adult through poor lifestyle and poor health now about I don't know eight years later
They stopped calling it adult onset. It's no longer and you can test test this out. If you don't believe me, get a medical journal
that's 20 years old, and you'll see it,
doesn't say type two diabetes, it says adult onset.
But eight years after I got my first certification,
everybody was calling it type two.
Why children started to get it?
Look at childhood obesity.
If you go back 50 to 100 years,
it was almost non-existent.
Almost not, it was pretty much non-existent
that children were obese.
Today, 17% of American children are obese and over 30% are overweight. And that's triple
what it was in the 1970s alone. So we're talking about crazy, crazy, crazy numbers. This
isn't, our genes didn't fucking change that quickly, our lifestyle. Now, that in playing devil's advocate, you absolutely genetics play a role.
Yes.
And there are people that put on body fat faster.
And it's in their genetics, their parents are the same way to.
But what I've found in my experience is almost always that that same person that has
a disadvantage
has an advantage somewhere else.
And that same person normally is also the same person
who touches weights and they just build muscle.
That's a good point.
You know what I'm saying?
They eat one cheeseburger and they put on body fat,
but if they touch weights, they also build muscle really easy.
They struggle with the body fat.
And then they same like the same the opposite.
The guys are the girls that always struggled
with putting weight on and they couldn't put muscle and they couldn like the same the opposite. The guys are the girls that always struggled with putting you know putting weight on
and they couldn't put muscle on they couldn't build.
I also tell them to look at a treadmill
and fat just falls off their body.
Sure.
The grass is normally greener on the other side.
So I do believe that genetics play a role
and that we're all at some sort of a disadvantage
but also believe that we're all at some sort of an advantage.
Well genetics will account for you know, 10 to 20 pounds
in difference like the difference is invariant.
I'm talking about for people when you control for height.
So if the same height or whatever, yes, someone will be genetically
fatter and someone will be genetically thinner.
And if they ate the same and did all the same movement, you're looking at 10
or 15 pounds, not 50, 60 pounds.
That's not the, that's not your genes.
Yeah, 100 pounds.
That's your lifestyle.
And the reason why this is so hard to control for, by the way, is when you take a person
whose whole family is overweight and they grow up and they're overweight, they all have
the same lifestyle.
So it's very hard to control for genes here, you know what I'm saying?
It's like, oh, my parents were fat, they're for I'm fat.
Yeah, but you also eat the same way your parents did.
And you grew up that way.
It's just hard not to see that immediately.
You know, like that's just the first thing I would think of is, you know, what sort of lifestyle
habits have been established, even in utero?
Like, what are the decisions?
That's a great point.
Process, like, going into the world.
Like, I mean, there's just so many factors.
Like, yes, genetics, of course, but like, there's epigenetics, there's ways of expressing
these, you know, genes that will, you know,
obviously turn into a certain direction.
Yeah, who is it that says this?
And I think it might be Rob Wolf that says this that,
genetics is the bullets that are in the gun.
Yeah, there's Rob.
And there it is.
And you're, the way you live is pulling the trigger.
And so you may be predisposed for certain things,
but your lifestyle is what sets these things in motion
to start happening for you.
For the most part, there are those rare occasions where you have this gene genetic variance
where, you know, it's like, there's nothing you can, nothing that we know that you can do
about it.
There's something limiting you from even walking, you know, or there's like, there's
just certain things that like, yeah, of course, you're going to have to account for that.
But, you know, let me go in this direction, though.
Okay.
So what?
So what?
Okay, your genes make you fatter. Now it's always something you can do. Okay, so what right? So what okay? Your genes make you fatter now
Is something you can do you can't change that well and again, I believe in my experience that and that person may forget about the
Musclebuilding thing that maybe that person processes information faster right and processing information faster to learning about your body and learning is
Advantage for every disadvantage you have you probably have some advantage somewhere else
When you say your body on that instead of focusing on your body just naturally like if you have, you probably have some advantages somewhere else. When you say your body,
it's that a focusing on your body.
Just naturally, if you have a limitation,
it allocates resources in another direction to make those other traits better.
Well, let me ask you this.
Adam, you and I were both ectomorphs,
super hard to gain muscle.
We had that genetic disadvantage,
if you will, where we just couldn't build muscle as easily as other people. And I know this is true for me, but I'll ask you this,
do you think you would have been as awesome as a trainer or who you are now on the podcast
if you didn't have to really fucking learn. Of course, be to learn. Exactly. That became an advantage.
Exactly. That's what I mean by that is it's, people need to learn to reframe their genetic
situation, okay? Yes, there are genetic freaks out there.
But if I spent my whole life talking about my genetic, you know,
disadvantage advantage because this person like, you know what, you're right.
If you're already with that mindset and that you're just, you're just choosing
that you're going to be fat because of that, you're probably
are going to be whether you think you will or won't, you're probably right.
Well, I think people confuse it with the whole,
like, you know, it's my genetics,
so I'm just gonna love myself and accept myself.
And there's a confusion here going on.
Now, first off, you should love yourself,
but in the real sense, and when you really love yourself,
you wanna take care of yourself.
Look, if you have a child, oh fuck it,
if you have a pet, if you have a pet
that you really, really care about,
you're gonna feed them in a way that's gonna,
and take care of them in a way that's gonna make them healthy.
You're not gonna have a pet that's obese
and you lock them up in the cage and don't make a move.
That doesn't show that you love your pet,
that shows that you don't really care in love with.
If you really cared about this pet,
you would feed them right, have them move,
you would challenge them sometimes,
sometimes gave them what they needed
and sometimes gave them what they wanted,
and that's what you need to do with yourself,
and that's where people get confused,
it's the whole like, well,
I don't wanna hate myself for being overweight
and it's just my genetics,
no, no, I don't want you to hate yourself,
I want you to really fucking care about yourself
in the real sense and really care,
your physical, the way you appear in some senses
is a outward reflection of kind of how you take care, the way you appear in some senses is an outward reflection of how you take
care of yourself a little bit.
Somebody who tends to not care about themselves a lot, many times you can tell with their
posture, their health, whether or not they're overweight, many things because they're just
not caring for themselves.
That's really what a boy was down to, is that authentic caring about yourself
and also realizing that.
Just a better look.
Yeah, and realizing some things you can't control,
you can't control your genes, you know,
you didn't pick who your parents were or whatever,
and you're born, and now you got your genes,
and what are you gonna do now with that?
That's right, reframe it.
That's it.
Next question is from Andrea,
as three guys in committed relationships, how would you react or how have you reacted to your significant others wanting to go off hormonal birth control and shifting to more natural options?
I know it's not ideal, but it is convenient with love your perspective. Hmm. You know, when I first started, so I was married for a long time, right? So we didn't use any type of, you know, contraceptive or birth control.
But then I got divorced and I, you know, met Jessica fell in love and we started dating.
And at the time she was using the IUD, right?
And, and that was the, the form of birth control.
She started having some, some kind of issues with it and wasn't feeling that good or whatever. And you know, here's a deal. Like, I have to respect my partner's wishes for
their health. And the reality is when you take hormones, however low the risk is or whatever,
it is going to have an effect on your health. It is, it's no different than me taking testosterone.
It's no different than anybody else taking any of the hormone. It's going to change things the way things work in the body.
And so if they want to be healthy and it's their body, then so be it.
We just have to take other precautions then.
We have to either use the pull out method or do a remeasure body temperature or use condoms
or whatever.
But that's the thing.
And for a long time, we've been telling women that there's almost no risk with birth control
or whatever. A lot of women are saying, not true.
They're saying, man, I felt terrible when I was on them. Then when I went off, it took
me six months to regulate my body or whatever, you're kind of getting a little bit of pushback
now with, you know, with that kind of therapy.
Yeah. I mean, it's one of those things too that, like I'm doing the more of the research,
I was scheduled to do the vasectomy and go through that whole process and everything
to get off completely off the birth control because I do.
We're both in a position now where it's like, I don't want her on any hormones.
Like these, this ID and everything else, it's like, yeah, I know that that has significantly
shifted like, I mean, even like sex drive
and motivation in the gym,
like all these types of things,
like I mean, it's not like something I could prove,
but I know my wife enough to know
that it's affecting her in a certain way.
And it's on the forefront,
but at the same time,
like I'm just nervous about, yeah,
because we have two, we have, you know, we're good.
Like we're, you know, we're, you know we're good like we're you know we're gonna get
that's the first like that already happened like she's on birth control our first kid and it's so it's
just you know it happened when she was on birth control and got pregnant with you yeah so we
have to switch you guys are that one up yeah exactly so that's I'm worried I need to care this but
um yeah so it's do you do the pull-out method on top of it or you just I mean this is getting real personal
You know you throw layer you have some awesome
No, cuz you know pull out method. I have used it a few times
Yeah, pull out method done properly is actually
Effective the problem is user
error. Terrible. You might have to do a guide on it. A guide. It's actually pretty basic.
Okay. Yeah. Right before you pull it out. That's about it. Okay. No, it's, you know, it's,
it's interesting. People argue this and debate this, but there's studies that are very clear.
They've done several of them. Many of them actually. Well, they'll show women's, here's a great one, when women are on birth control, they
tend to be attracted to different kinds of men than when they're off-birth control.
That's very interesting to me.
Did you know that, and they need to do more studies on this, but there was one that I read
where when women met a guy while they're on birth control and they fall in love and get
married, and then the women go off-birth birth control the divorce rate goes up a little bit because I think and what they're with their
theorizing to do something a little different with their theorizing like oh fuck I don't like this guy
that much. I met him when I was on birth control now I'm off and yeah I like the gardener he's a lot
hotter. That's interesting so Katrina so Katrina turns 38 this year and she's never used birth control in her life.
In her life.
So never use birth control in her life.
And a lot of people thought I was crazy because for the first six of our eight years, I
used a rubber.
And I haven't heard it called a rubber in so long.
Yeah, throwback.
Sorry, that's my medical term there.
So, yeah, I had for six years, I use condoms. Yeah, throwback. Sorry, that's my medical term there.
Yeah, I had for six years, I use condoms and it's never been a big deal to me. I mean, Katrina and any other woman I've ever met in my life, the best part of sex is the 45 minutes of
four play that leads up to sex. So true. And so I think being somebody who's always been protected and
pride it himself on being someone like that and that was not a big deal in our
relationship, it's actually just forced me to be even better in that area,
which is I think only enhanced my sex life.
So if you're a male and you're, and you're, you have a girl who's considering
this and you're concerned, and you're selfishly thinking, oh man, I, that sucks
for me. Now I got to wear condom potentially or whatever, or pull out method or whatever.
Well, I'll tell you what, like maybe,
maybe this is a great time for you to put some more
energy and effort into the 45 minutes that lead up
to the actual sex and that's the four play,
which most women care more about than anything else.
And so I think that's only,
so talk about strengths and weaknesses
like the last question.
You know, that sounds like probably a shitty situation
for a lot of people,
but I think it's only enhanced our sex life because of it.
Have you guys seen that?
There was a picture at some like,
some clinic,
it was like a plant parent or a hood or something,
and it said for family,
it said for family planning,
please use rear entrance.
And it was talking about the back of the building,
but it's just so great. That's so funny.
Yeah, so funny.
Yeah, yeah.
Next question is from 1978, HW,
what exactly is Roy Drage?
Is this a real phenomenon that is experienced
with steroid use?
Does it depend on dose and duration of use?
Adam, did you experience this?
Right, specifically.
He was more of a jerk when he went off.
Yeah, yeah, right, right.
I, you know what, I think this is such a funny question
because, or not funny, but I think it's a very common question.
A lot of people think that there's this correlation
with rage and anger with steroids.
It's because testosterone is the aggression hormone, right?
Right. And, well, I remember how I was in my state when I was in my 20s. with steroids. It's because testosterone is the aggression hormone, right?
Right.
Well, I remember how I was in my state when I was in my 20s.
I had real anger problems.
And then if I was to be somebody that was to use steroids on top of that, it might
have been a volatile situation.
Sure, I was an asshole right there.
That's what I'm saying.
So I think that if you're an asshole off steroids, you're an exaggerated
asshole on steroids, you know, and so that's really all it comes down to.
So if you're somebody who would normally snap at a driver anyways, flip them off, well
now you are the guy that might get out of his car and actually chase the car.
Because you're bigger.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
And so, but I mean, I think a lot of people that probably do the quote unquote road rage
or what we call road rage.
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Yeah, higher levels of irritability, I should say.
Now, high testosterone levels are associated with...
I would argue that.
Something that I do notice, and I will admit, and I know that that's probably why this person
asks his question is...
Less empathy.
When I was in the tank, testosteroneous, dude, I felt the closest I ever felt
like of being feminine.
Oh, I see what you're saying.
With empathy, like you're saying.
And I mean, I would watch commercials on TV
that would make me emotional, you know,
that never happened in my life.
And I was very,
Did you feel like your emotions more, more up and down?
In that sense? No, not necessarily.
I was very easy.
I was more easy going.
I definitely am.
I'm probably much easier to deal with.
I'm more, Katrina would probably tell you I'm more cuddly.
I'm not, well, I'm not wanting to have sex more.
My libido is not there, but I'm definitely, I think, less aggressive.
But even me, at the most aggressive still isn't an asshole. Right. not there, but I'm definitely, I think, less aggressive.
But even me, at the most aggressive still isn't an asshole.
So I'm giving you a my range of being able to tell it.
So I definitely, being on Testosterone exaggerates.
And you know where it came from?
Road rage came from lawyers defending their clients
from doing crazy shit.
So it's like, oh, my client on the drugs.
Yeah, my client
killed his wife or whatever. He went into it in uncontrollable rage caused by his testosterone
in steroid usage. That wasn't that Tim Limbees' case. Yeah, bullshit. No, it's, it's absolute
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Yeah, they played that all in steroids,
but they did a documentary on them,
and then you find out all the pills and shit
that he was saying.
Yeah, and they blame it on steroids.
Yeah, no, no, here's a deal.
Like test, it is.
It is.
It is.
And there as well.
Is testosterone connected to aggression?
Yes, this is why men tend to be more aggressive
than women.
Is it tied to us going into a blind and controllable
skits of front and tech rage?
No, it's not.
And like I said, studies show that when men's levels
of testosterone, when men's testosterone levels
are in the upper range of normal,
they tend to feel greater confidence
and more well-being and more balance in their emotions.
When testosterone levels are low,
irritability tends to go up,
you being feeling emotional,
tends to go up and depression tends to go up.
So I don't think that that's the case.
Now here's the problem.
The problem is we don't have a lot of studies
on people taking some of the ridiculous doses
of testosterone that body bills will take.
So we really don't know too much,
but that being said testosterone
is a relatively safe hormone to take at those crazy levels.
I don't know too many hormones that you could take
10,000% of and have kind of minimal side effects.
Like if I injected you with estrogen 10,000 times
higher than your normal estrogen levels,
you're gonna have some fucking problems.
We do that insulin, you're gonna die.
You can get some titties.
You do that with testosterone
and you're not gonna get these crazy.
You'll get some side effects,
but you're not gonna get,
you know, it's not gonna kill you.
So it's just, it's kind of an excuse,
and here's the problem,
there's a lot of bad examples of guys on steroids
behaving badly, but it's because a lot of the guys
that go on steroids for long periods of time,
do you go maniacs already?
They're insecure, you know,
our test subjects are bad examples.
They're bad examples.
That's why I do like to share about this,
because I, I mean, I remember being 25 years old and tonnets
the testosterone running through me.
It's synthetically and, you know, being in a bar
and inebriated.
I'm drunk now too and thinking like, oh, I hope
that guy fucking says something to me.
Yeah, I hope he says something to me.
And a lot of that.
Cause you weren't as secure.
Right.
And so, but even then I it didn't
Caused me to go out and fight or go do those things
But and I think some of that is being insecure young young
Building all this strength that you've never had before and and the animals that we are wanting to test that strength
You know want to feel with that real-world strength is like and I think there's that animal in us
And I think that exaggerates it when you're up,
but I definitely do not think that it would,
I never felt myself taking injection,
and then-
Into a blind rage.
And then also, yeah, then also, I'm like,
I gotta, I wanna fight somebody.
I just picture Arnold and Total Rikol,
you know, there he's like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, testosterone is connected to impulsive behavior. It's connected to, you know, drive
and motivation and ambition in some cases, but not to rage to the point where you can get,
you know, it's actually like, it's not my fault. That what I did, what I did, it's the
testosterone that I took. Not true at all. Can it make men more potentially aggressive?
Yes, but you remember aggression isn't a bad thing.
It depends how you use it.
I can be more aggressive and it will make me more driven
at my job.
I can be more aggressive and get up and be like,
you know what, I'm gonna go clean the fuck up.
The cops are more things.
Yeah, I'm gonna go fix this thing.
That's what aggression really is.
There's a bad side of aggression too,
where I wanna hurt people and do that kind of stuff,
but that's the bad side of aggression regardless.
And I don't think it increases that either exists in you,
or it doesn't.
You're either that kind of person or you're not.
And again, if you're a really insecure person,
and now you take steroids and you gain 50 pounds of muscle,
the guys that start shit in bars
and wanna fight everybody, the reason why they're doing that
is not because they're confident.
Yeah, they're not confident dudes.
Those are insecure dudes wanting to test themselves.
I'll tell you what, I've hung out with a lot of actual good fighters,
like MMA fighters who really train all the time.
Most humble fuckers you ever, they're not looking for it.
No, they're humble, they're humble, man.
They know.
They've proved it. And they'll add a lot of them if they've taken plenty of it. No, they're not, they're, they're humble, man. They know. They proved it. They'll add a lot of them, have taken plenty of testosterone. Exactly.
Exactly. So, no, I don't, I don't think that's the case whatsoever. So, check this out. If you go to
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