Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 911: YouTube Fitness Community Review, How to Use a Pool to Overcome Extreme Physical Limitations, Accountability Strategies for Fitness Success & MORE

Starting point is 00:00:00 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. Might, up, might, up with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. In this episode of Mind Pop, for the first 48 minutes we do our introductory conversation. Holy cow, we did a lot of topics. Look at that. We went all over the board. All over the board here. You should get scatterbrains. She's read them all. Yeah, well, first we talk about skinny dips,

Starting point is 00:00:27 new dark chocolate, peppermint flavored almonds. They are absolutely delicious. Yeah, I was eating those. Sorry guys. If you go to skinnydipped.com, or slash mine pump, and use the code mine pump, you'll get 20% off.

Starting point is 00:00:39 Then we talk about the top three instruments. You don't want to be caught playing. We have a little competition. Which one's the dorkiestiest and which one's the coolest? Justin talks about his dog, basically dominating him. Justin is now the beta in the house. He's a sh-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he- that boxing, bloody knuckles, forping. And then we get into some current event stuff. Apparently there's an opioid antidote drug that's now 600% more expensive.

Starting point is 00:01:10 I talk about this article that came out that showed us that lab grown mini brains, you're hearing this right, we're producing a human-like brain wave pattern. What is going on? The end is near. Then we talked about how heart transplant recipients sometimes inherit the memories from their

Starting point is 00:01:26 donor. Sounds like a scary movie. Don't give me a psychopath. Then we talk about mother's milk and how it's different for baby boys and baby girls and how it changes throughout the day. Doug suggests we give babies organified gold juice to help them sleep. I don't suggest that. It's not for babies.

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Starting point is 00:01:57 and use the code MindPump, you'll get 20% off. And then finally, we talk about the torment of being a genius for Justin's tough. Then we get into the torment of being a genius for just as tough. Then we get into the questions. The first question was, what's the furthest that we've ever regressed the client

Starting point is 00:02:11 for a particular movement? So let's say somebody- I told him to go home. Let's say somebody has extreme limitations. What are some ways we can regress somebody so we can start to train them to get better? Adam does mention Prime Pro. That is our correctional maps program. so it's good for people to improve mobility and

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Starting point is 00:02:56 That's weird how I said that. Say else. Say else! It's a sale! Bye, bye, bye! It's just natural. It's just machine, dude. I can't help it. That's a final question.

Starting point is 00:03:07 We give our opinion on the YouTube fitness community. There's some good ones, and there's some bad ones. Find out what we think when you listen to that part of this episode. Now I get to the part where I get to tell everybody that it's three days less. Maps anywhere, 50% off the sale is ending in three days. If you wanna check out the program,

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Starting point is 00:04:28 Send your shirt size, your shipping address, and we'll get that right out to you. Where'd it go, Dale? This has to be the only time that we're all being in a troll's eating on the podcast, right? I'm not gonna eat another one just because of that. It's the new flavor of the skinny dipped almond. Yeah, it's great. What does the bag say, Doug? It's the peppermint the skinny dip diamond. Yeah, it's really.

Starting point is 00:04:45 What does the bag say, Doug? It's the peppermint chocolate. We called it. What do you think about it? We not. Yeah. So here's the thing about the flavor, because the thing about peppermint that I don't like is that you'll sometimes eat something as overwhelmingly peppermint.

Starting point is 00:04:59 It's very powerful. This one's not. So you don't like York too much. Yeah, it's too much. It's too much. Most people they don't like a lot of peppermint don't like. Yeah, I'm not down with the York peppermint patties. I like York. They're okay.

Starting point is 00:05:09 You know why I like Yorks? Because I can only have like two of them and I'm good. You can't like when you blow out. It's like cold. You can't sit down and eat a whole bag of Yorks. That's a good point. Yeah, you can't. You can't do it.

Starting point is 00:05:22 Reese's peanut butter comes. You can eat a whole bag of Yorks. You could, right Justin? I have before. Yeah. you can't. You can't do it. Reese's peanut butter cups. You could eat a whole bag of this. You could, right, Justin? Hold it. I have before. They're dark chocolate peppermint. So these skinny dipped ones are, you could taste the chocolate right away in the almond.

Starting point is 00:05:32 Remember, the chocolate is not a huge layer. It's like a nice thin layer. Taste the layer. But then it's got that pepperminy, you know, essence. It's like that. Infused. It's got the essence of peppermint in it.

Starting point is 00:05:44 So they do, they do a good, I wonder who controls their flavoring. I don't know, but you know what it you know I mean it's like a flavor. Okay, so I I was never a good bartender You know, I'm gonna throw that out there. It was not the greatest but I knew when you hit that like perfect Amount, you know that that recipe that we're just like, like, okay, that wasn't too sweet, it wasn't too bitter, that wasn't, it was like the right balance. And, you know, they don't overpower and over-sweeten and put too much chocolate and all that

Starting point is 00:06:15 so they've nailed it now. What was your, what drink would you say you were known for? When people come into your bar, what would they be like, oh, you got to get this, like, old-fashioned, or mainly shots. I mean, they would they be like, oh, you got to get this old-fashioned, old-roo, or mainly shots. Or, I mean, the blow jobs. Yeah, blow jobs. Sex on the beach.

Starting point is 00:06:30 Just to get the usual blow job, please. But actually, I was giving out, like, milky-key shots, like, crazy. That's five today already. Somebody from Bayley's came and gave us all these little tiny shooters and, like, they were like, get rid of this. And there's only like two different, my lips are tired. You snuck that one in on me!

Starting point is 00:06:54 Do lips get tired? Do you like, I was just in, I mean, they crack, they crack and bleed. They do get tired, you know why I know this? I used to play know why I know this I used to play the trumpet Why you I used to play the trumpet you are a hornblower. I and your lips will get tired. Yeah shut up bro You're playing the saxophone He's trying to do the sexy version of what you're doing. This is okay What is the oil what is the order of instruments that you don't want to be proud of playing as you get Unless you're a bad. So if you're listening to this you You're a bad I'm gonna say I'm gonna say accordion Hey, hey, hey, hey, listen, no, is that oh my time that into some heritage? Yeah, accordion is a is a I guess backpipes are pretty annoying

Starting point is 00:07:35 But I love them. Yeah, hey flute has to be number one. Yeah, unless you're a badass No, all of them are you no, no, no, no, we let's agree that every Player doesn't matter. No, all of them are you no no no no. We let's agree that every bad ass blue player doesn't matter. No one Just a toll Boom bitch Silence I'm like I'm like kind of accepting that but no let's agree on it. Let's agree on this okay All any instrument if you're a bad acid. It's cool. It's up for the triangle. So let's just a suit Unless you're calling people in for dinner. Do you think there's actually a pro that does it? Triangle? Yeah, I feel like anybody who is like musically talented could just play the triangle.

Starting point is 00:08:15 Oh, 100%. That's why they give it to the idiot kid, you know. Right. It's like an NBA player like never playing horse his whole entire life, but could he play the game? Like yeah, you could probably get by playing We're gonna get we're gonna get an agree DM from a triangle play I spent 10 years this got me into college Okay, so wow look at that Doug pulled up a professional triangle. No, these are jokes. They have to be jokes Yeah, so so okay, all right. we'll say like you are a subpar

Starting point is 00:08:46 You top talent, okay, what in in the order? What is the worst go top three worst instruments that you could be good? Two buds got to be up there. Yeah Flute is my number one. I'm gonna put my I think everybody has a vote for their number one I'm gonna say flute's got to be up there especially for a guy right because it's kind of it's not a very masculine instrument. No, they're not seemingly at all. Yeah, so flutes got to be up there The like tuba's another one's you know, I mean, I don't know though, because that's I got all the different percussive like instruments. You like you kind of know I make noises. I got it the harp No, I make noises. I got it the harp Harbs got a doughnut man harps kind of I've heard some people on the streets. How?

Starting point is 00:09:28 German on the the heart what's in the streets? Yeah, when I was over You know, I was in Ireland and yeah, there you go Imagine being a single or bachelor too like you and you bring a girl you said subpar though You bring a girl over your house if you're like kind of okay, it's really bad Imagine you're like hey, you. And it's really bad. Imagine you're like, hey, you want, I'm gonna play your song, right? She's like, and she's thinking like, oh my God, this is so sexy.

Starting point is 00:09:49 He's gonna play like the guitar or the piano. You pull out the harp. It's a fucking big ass harp. You're rolling in. I feel like she's already excited at that point. Like, it's game over. I'm gonna say that exact same scenario, and you come out of your closet, you bust out your flute.

Starting point is 00:10:05 Say like, she's not getting excited about that. That's true, that's true. The heart rolls in, you're like, how about this? Yeah, what's gonna dry it up the quickest? I think a banjo. Yeah, like just because of the reference of, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe,

Starting point is 00:10:18 I don't know, banjos can be kind of, remember the devil goes down to Georgia? Yeah, that's a cool, that's a cool, I mean, that'll, I don't know. In the fiddle. That's a moisture producer. Mm that, I don't know. In the fiddle. That's a moisture producer. Mm-hmm. So, sure.

Starting point is 00:10:28 If you say so. I like to, dude, I think, okay, what's the bad, most bad ass instruments? Guitar. Yeah, like drums. Guitar and drums, I think are cool. I think at our age, it's piano. I think if you're dating at our age,

Starting point is 00:10:41 and you could play the piano well and you bring a woman over your house, and you play the piano really good. It's such a nerdy I bet you I'm right no I bet we'll do a poll I don't think so because we have a bunch of nerds that listen to us you might be right hmm hmm you're just a not you're like that crune or guy you have to be the worst you have to be the worst promoter of our fans are nerds. It's cool to be a nerd now. Okay, okay, that's a good save. It is, it's be honest. No, but I used to play the trumpet and your lips do get tired.

Starting point is 00:11:14 That was the whole point of this conversation. Yeah. You do find that your lips start to get a little tired. You can't pucker them like you could initially. Oh my God, dude. Here's the combo right there. What are you doing? Black-tie coffee with the peppermint,

Starting point is 00:11:27 chocolate almonds. Taking a couple of almonds. That's shot in there too. Oh man. Oh, I appreciate that. It's pretty good. I feel it. That's good stuff.

Starting point is 00:11:35 Man, I don't know if I feel good about introducing everybody to the nicotine as a neutropic. I feel like Adam might have a problem. It's, yeah. He's coming in with the headaches, sorry. Yeah. I fully commit to anything headache, sorry. Yeah. I fully commit to anything that I do.

Starting point is 00:11:47 Yeah. You're not a quitter. No. I don't have, I don't have to ask anything. I full ask everything I do. The whole ass. The whole ass. All the time.

Starting point is 00:11:56 That's right. Justin, I want to hear you tell the story on the podcast about how you got punked by your dog. I feel like your dog keeps punching me. He's like, he's alpha. You're the beta. No. No, that is not what's happening. He's taking cheap shots.

Starting point is 00:12:11 Bro, when I'm not looking, that's not a cheap shot. That is the most blatant. Like tell a story. Bro, okay. So I posted on my Instagram like the other day, just walk cause when I get home, it gets really dark, like really fast now because of the change of time. And so I have to get him out, because he's crazy.

Starting point is 00:12:29 He just like has way too much energy, he's gonna destroy the house. So I take him out there, my oldest son comes with me, and we go on this like nature hike. And we were able to go on this nature hike because they lit up this zip-line course. That was really cool. I saw that on your InstaStory.

Starting point is 00:12:45 Yeah, and it's a cool thing that they do just for the holidays. And so it's really bright and it's really a cool kind of experience and they have like laser stuff going on in the forest. So it's like, I don't know, I just go to, I go on this walk. Do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do. Do do do do do. Yeah, and all this stuff's going on. And so I'm trying to take a picture of it. Excuse me, I'm trying to take a picture of it. And I'm looking up and I'm taking a picture. And my son also, we're all kind of looking up at the bridge. And meanwhile, my dogs just kind of jockeying for position.

Starting point is 00:13:21 I looked down, he squatted, he's hovering over my foot. He took the fattest shit right on my foot. And I was like, and I couldn't tell because it was really dark at first. And I'm like, bro, how can you debate that you are not the beta? You just got shit on by your dog and you can, there's no way. So, there's the ultimate. do it. That is the ultimate. A dog that's, a dog that's feeling out of situation. Dude, he was circling and trying to find a place to shit

Starting point is 00:13:51 and I wasn't paying attention to him. So, shit on you. What it was is he was in his mind, he was debating like, do I need to punk this guy? Cause here's what a dog will do if they're kind of not sure if they're the alpha, if they'll shit on your shoe when it's not on your foot. You know, I mean if it's in the closet

Starting point is 00:14:07 He fucking ran on your head while it was He knew he did he took a dump Fred and a dump and ran in his dude. That's not fucking Alfa what goes through your mind Would you look down at your shoe? Are you like what really? Yeah, what the fuck? Yeah, I was like I laughed You know I was like what That's the You know, I was like, what? That's the equivalent of getting slapped by another man. Yeah. I know.

Starting point is 00:14:30 That's an open hand slap. He's not even punching you, just gonna smack your tsh. Yeah. Oh God. I told that story on here. Didn't I have my cousin got open hand slapped when we were in? No, what did you? Yeah, wait, like early episodes I think, didn't I?

Starting point is 00:14:42 Yeah, I think you did. I think you did. I wanna hear it again though. You think there's nothing like seeing a guy get open and so too. No, we were kids. We were, well, we were in our early 20s. We were 22-ish.

Starting point is 00:14:54 And I had, my cousin and I used to run around together a lot when we were kids. He lived in another town, like a neighboring town to where I grew up in high school. And he was a popular kid. I was a popular kid. We scoot all the parties, both his town, my town. But he was the guy I've told stories about

Starting point is 00:15:11 where we'd roll up to parties and always knew that if my cousin wasn't getting laid that we were getting into a fight, like just for sure. So it was like operation, get Travis laid. So he, yeah. If you think about it, it's actually a brilliant strategy.

Starting point is 00:15:27 He actually, on his part it is. He got all you guys, everybody's like in cahoots, trying to make it happen. It was, man, when we used to do that, a bunch of us, when we get to a party, it would be like, do fine to check for Travis and keep him happy, because I wanna have a good time tonight,

Starting point is 00:15:41 I don't feel like getting into fights, it determines whether or not you have a good time. All right, so just, I tell that part of the story, it's not part of the actual story, but that kind of gives you an idea of how my cousin was. And when we were kids, we grew up in, you know, I say we were popular, we grew up in a small town,

Starting point is 00:15:56 it's not hard to be popular in those 10 people in your school. You know, so there was, like if there shit went down, like we, I think the worst I ever got hit with with a skateboard. Like, it's always you're, you're fighting with your hands. Like no knives, no one's getting shot. Like we live in a farm town, you know, so like you call each other names, you don't like each other, you push, you push each other first and then then fighting in the room around.

Starting point is 00:16:16 You might have hit by a, like some hair. Right. Right. So we grew up like this that that's just you, you said, oh, shit, there's no fear at all. I moved to the Bay Area and it was a very it was a culture shock for me and he's still from that area and he's in town visiting me when we're like 22 years old and I take him out to downtown San Jose and go hold it for a while. Oh, dude, man on a Friday night right we're going out to the clubs and I don't remember what club we're at back then. Tunes. And yeah, probably actually.

Starting point is 00:16:45 That was one of the first ones we would do. Oh my. And then, uh, so we, we, we drink all night, uh, and I actually, I met up with two girls and we're leaving the place at like two thirty and both these girls are like paying all the attention to me and none to my cousin. And we're, we're walk home and, and he's drunk and we're heading to me and none to my cousin. And we're a walk home and he's drunk. And we're heading back to go back to my place. And everybody that we walk by,

Starting point is 00:17:11 he's saying something, talking shit to him, just cause he's drunk. And he's just, everybody wants, just, you know, he'll pick someone to walk by and he'll find something on their shirt, make fun of him as he walks by. He's saying racist shit. He's saying, oh my God. He's saying, yeah.

Starting point is 00:17:24 And I'm just like, yeah, and I'm just like, yeah, and I'm like cringing and like, and my cousin was the type person to, like if I told him to stop it or do it that, he would do it more, so I'm just kind of like praying. Like please do, just relax, you know, and try to distract him by talking to him and stuff, but he's in his mood.

Starting point is 00:17:41 And we walk past these two brothers that are like 275 fucking wearing overalls passing out there CD to their to their like rap single they had done they're trying to hustle they're trying to get out there and get people to know who they are and they're and they're selling them for $10 a pop to all the kids that are coming out of the out of the clubs afterwards right and these dudes probably four or five years on us, maybe more, but big as fuck, you know, look like they were linemen. And my cousin walks by them and just grabs the CD

Starting point is 00:18:12 out of their hand and keeps walking. And dudes like, yo, yo, hey, you got to pay for that. And the guy comes running behind us and then we stop. And I'm like, Travis, give him the seat, and Travis is looking down at it and he's reading the back of it and he's like, why would I pay for this shit? And I'm like, oh my God, dude. And the dude's like, there we go.

Starting point is 00:18:29 Yeah, and I'm like, please God, please know. Like, we're already a kill. There's 100% no doubt. And my cousin was tough as nails, dude. We got in a lot of fights. He's not a big guy, but for sure the guy would want with me anytime we got into something because he's just crazy and ruthless.

Starting point is 00:18:42 But this is not one of these, we're for sure getting our asses away. We've fought some big guys, we've won some fights, but there's size matters sometimes. You know what I'm saying? Size matters when there are three times your size, right? It's like at this moment, the numbers and physics are going to be as new as size.

Starting point is 00:18:57 Yeah, totally. 99 out of 100 times, we get our asses killed. Totally, so he says that to him, the dude kind of steps up close, leans down to talk to the little man and he oh listen dude I'm out here trying to promote myself do my thing like if I wasn't trying to hustle and do my business I'd wipe your ass up and down the street right now and He's giving my CD back

Starting point is 00:19:19 And my my cousin steps closer to him and gets his face like right up against his face and says, do something. I went, oh my God, dude. Dude, he looks to his left, looks to his right just to probably see if there's cops or anybody around. And he straight cocks back, open hand, slaps my cousin enough to knock him down on the ground and open up his mouth bleeding. And my cousin pops up to go after him out of way. And I just grabbed my cousin, pulled on him, apologizing, like just trying to get it out. He's trying to fight me to get through so we can fight him.

Starting point is 00:19:54 And I'm like, Travis, you're going to get me killed, dude. Like literally. Yeah. But that was a first time that I'd ever seen somebody get open hand slap and I had front row seats to it. was one of the scariest, one of the scariest nights of my life. Was that like boss routeins like one of his moves? Well, that's because he fought in pink race in Japan where the rules were, you couldn't hit each other in the face with the clothes.

Starting point is 00:20:18 It was a closed hand. But he got so good at hitting people with his open hand. He knocked people out of there, right? Yeah, he's moved. He laid my cousin out. Bro, you would have thought that it was a close fight. Have you seen the Russian slap fight championships? Oh yeah, you showed me that.

Starting point is 00:20:34 Dude, that's so crazy. You know how they do it? They stand across from each other and they take turns slapping each other's heart as they can. It's hard as they can. They take, literally take turns. In the face. Like, hard as they can. Boom! And in the face. Like hard as it can.

Starting point is 00:20:45 Boom. And then the next guy, boom. And they go back for hand hurts. It's like until someone gets knocked out or gives up. Now, we played this game when we were kids in middle school. Yeah. It was called shoulders. And when you hit someone in the shoulder,

Starting point is 00:20:59 yeah, you do the same thing, but you could sock a dude in the shoulder. And you just, you stand side to side. This is the type of games you played as a boy. Yeah, yeah. Could you imagine that? I'm pretty sure we even got in slap boxing like, and we did that too. Oh, slap boxing.

Starting point is 00:21:11 Oh, I'm a shren. This is like six grade. Yeah. Six grade. That's the kind of shit. And you, and you just take turns wailing on each other's shoulder, you know, one after another back and forth until finally one guy goes, okay, okay, it's enough. No more.

Starting point is 00:21:24 Here's a slapping contest. Look at this, this is in 2018, so this is recent. They blast each other. So there's these big, why would they do that? I don't know. You know, here's a, oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, see, he's about to get knocked out. Oh, I felt that, look at this.

Starting point is 00:21:41 Oh, watch this big guy watch. Burya! Oh, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's Russia at this. Oh, watch this big guy watch. Brier. Oh, man. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's Russia for you. Yeah. Oh, he did disqualified for Pokemon in the eye a little bit. Look like. That's a week. Yeah. Yeah. We used to do. We used to do. There's like an audience and stuff.

Starting point is 00:22:01 Well, wouldn't you want to watch this? I guess this time. Yeah. I mean, that would be kind of funny. We used to do shit like this all the time We used to play you guys in one of the game bloody knuckles. Yeah, remember that of course Well, we just blast each other in the hands. Yeah, dude. I used to come home and my hands look like What do they look like mits? Yeah because my hand would get so swollen. Yeah, did you ever get really good at thorping? Oh, yeah, I remember that Did you ever get really good at thorping? Oh yeah, I remember that. What was the thorp?

Starting point is 00:22:25 Okay, so you're gonna be like, now are you dressed up in costumes and you run around like medieval people? No, you like, you hold out your forearm and you like, smack, you know, I got so good at it to where like, I would smack somebody's forearm with my fingers and it would like leave like indentures,

Starting point is 00:22:41 you know, in their form. What's this one? That one, I think that's thorping too. I'm not sure. Oh, this is, yeah, it's like both, yeah. This is before the internet, by the way. This spread naturally. You brought this up one time in the show,

Starting point is 00:22:53 and I actually had never thought about that before. Think about that, like how did everybody, the example. How fascinating is that? Well, the example we used was, how did everybody know to blow in the Nintendo cartridge? Why was that a universal thing? To spread, I think it's just kids that school talked about, right? I think kids just passed it around,

Starting point is 00:23:08 and this is just how there was no internet. The way, you know what's funny too, is that I remember as kid, like everybody had Nintendo right back then. And the way I remember learning is was like, one person had one technique, another person had it, and you like started combining like the things like that. Yeah, I tried the eraser approach.

Starting point is 00:23:24 You know? Dude, you do the eraser on both sides of the you know the chip and then you blow after that and that sometimes worked sometimes it didn't work the one that worked for me was instead of blowing in it you yes yeah what the hell you I didn't know this. Yeah. And then you wedge it in. Yeah. Oh my god. Yeah, it's so easy. I don't know where I didn't read that somewhere. Sometimes, sometimes you push up and down like 10 times

Starting point is 00:23:51 like, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you,

Starting point is 00:24:01 put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, put you, now we still see examples of this today, right? It's just spreads a million times faster. Like, remember how stupid the tide pod thing was? Like the reason why something that stupid could spread is because it can move so fast these days.

Starting point is 00:24:15 All it takes is, you know, a hundred of these stupid kids to think it's the same. Yeah, we brought that up. It's a lot like when everybody's trying to get everybody to like pass out, you know, and they like push on their chest really hard. You know, like dumb shit, like you did remember push on their chest really hard. I did that. Like dumb shit.

Starting point is 00:24:26 You did remember that. I do remember that. We did it differently though. What we would do is this is don't try this. Okay. No, don't be doing it. Don't be doing it. But you would hold your breath and then you'd squeeze

Starting point is 00:24:35 the sides of your neck, which is your carotid. Basically, you're choking yourself out without realizing it. Yeah. And you would pass out. I remember it. And it was like a thrill because you pass out and you'd be like, oh my god, and you wake up and be like, was that out? How long was that for?

Starting point is 00:24:47 I had a dream the whole thing. And they'd be like, oh, you only out for two seconds. And you would do this with your friends. You don't want to ask for it. This is why I know testosterone is basically a slow acting poison. It's trying to kill us. It makes you stupid, do stupid shit.

Starting point is 00:24:59 Oh, we did so we don't think. Now, do you guys think, well, you have older kids. So, do you think that your boy is creeping up on that age where this stupid stuff is coming? Do you think it's inevitable? How do you think, you did so many stupid things, he has to be doing some stupid stuff or gonna be doing stupid stuff.

Starting point is 00:25:17 You know what, that's a good question. Think about it, we just name between knuckles, slap boxing to all the stupid shit we're talking about right now Yeah, we did all those that the likelihood he's not doing a few of those stupid or like things that are their stupid I don't know if kids even do those kinds of things anymore. Yeah, or if it stays underground and doesn't just go on YouTube right away Yeah, or maybe I think maybe this dumb shit they do now was like I don't know maybe do something stupid on the computer I feel like if I was a kid, like the thing would be to have two social accounts on everything, always.

Starting point is 00:25:52 You have your one that your parents think is your life-ic one, the shadow, and then you have the private one that doesn't have a picture of you that has some symbol or code that no friends see. Only the real type, all the homies know, and that's where all the inappropriate talk, crazy shit is going down because you don't want,

Starting point is 00:26:08 because forever, that's never changed, trying to hide from mom and dad. I don't care how good your kid is, how smart he is, how old, how young, how old. I bet you that's where all these trolls, you know, like having these other accounts of just trolling, like that's part of the fun for kids is like, I can fuck with them, be anonymous.

Starting point is 00:26:25 Right, right. I mean, for all you guys know, one of your biggest haters on Instagram might be one of your kids. To put your own kid. He said, every time, you're gonna start to put this together. I'll put it all over your head. Every time you discipline it,

Starting point is 00:26:36 like the next day you get this fucking crazy hate on Instagram. I'll say, you little dick, sell your little dick. Little dick. Someone makes a meme out of you. Hell. Hell. We'll see about that. That scares me. Yeah, you think about that.

Starting point is 00:26:51 That's a terrible thought. What scares me is that when I started thinking about myself as a teen, and that was a relatively good kid. So that's what really scares me. As I was a really, relatively good kid, but the shit that I used to do that my parents didn't know about was terrible, right? And I was a good kid. The bad kids didn't even worship.

Starting point is 00:27:11 So I think to myself like, oh man, and my parents, I'm sure we're fully full. I'm sure they were completely, of course. It's not like, oh my kid, he's a good boy. You're boy, he's a boy. He's a boy 12 or 13. 13. He's 13.

Starting point is 00:27:23 Yeah, dude, this is the age. That's starting to kick in, right? 13 to 16, man. This is, I mean, I was running a muck. And I'm like, you, I'm in church three times a week. I'm a good kid. Like, I didn't have sex, I didn't do drugs. So in my school, if you didn't have sex

Starting point is 00:27:37 or you weren't doing drugs, you were a good kid. You were a goody-goody. You know, I for sure, you did everything but sex though. Yeah, I did. But but not till later didn't Like every kind of but say soft stop Soft more year soft more years when I so before you were a soft well, how do you when you made out with a girl for the first time? Six seventh grade. Okay. Well, that's normal. Yeah, that's normal. Yeah, Justin was in third grade I think it was

Starting point is 00:28:03 Kiss it wasn't a makeup. She was in third grade. Yeah, it was a kiss. It was a make-out. She was in third grade I was 18 yet I was just going with the joke No, did she say you like made out like yeah, I made out when you were like in fifth It was fourth grade. Yeah, it was actually fourth grade fourth grade when I had a make-out. No, I didn't know what I was doing It was a dare, it was kind of a dare, but I wanted to do it because I was attracted to the girl. And it was like this nerve-wracking experience

Starting point is 00:28:34 because it was like how you split and divide into two different camps like her friends and then my friends and they're trying to hype me up to do it. And then I was just like all this pressure. And then after one of our classes and everybody's getting on the bus, like she was walking down that ramp from those trailer,

Starting point is 00:28:49 you know, classes and she's like, okay, and we kinda like agreed that we were gonna do it. It was like this whole formal thing we were gonna agree to do it. And then we started kissing and then I was like, okay, let's see what's going on here. And it was cool. And then the teacher came out and was like,

Starting point is 00:29:05 Hey, hey, hey, like broke us up and then ended up like talking to her mom about it. And then like totally cock block. Did you, yeah, a hundred teachers. Yeah. Did your parents find out? They, I don't think they did.

Starting point is 00:29:17 No, no, they didn't know. But what would they carry? It was just like kissed. When I was 12, because right around your right Adam, right around 12 or 13 is when the shit starts to hit the fan. And when I was 12, I went to Italy to visit family. And now the kids over there, I remembered, were a good four or five years ahead in turn,

Starting point is 00:29:37 because you know what it was, my family and Sicily not well off at all. So we'll just say that they were, you know, poor. It's Sicily and the kids are just out. So when you're 12 in America, even when we were kids, you weren't really going out a whole lot by yourself. You kind of were but not that much, maybe the mall or whatever.

Starting point is 00:29:56 And Sicily, you were out on the streets and you were gone and you could go out as ladies you want and everybody was cool with it. So I was going out with my cousins and they were just the shit that they were showing me. And then when you go to the beach in Sicily, sometimes women are topless. I had never seen a topless woman in my life.

Starting point is 00:30:11 And that was 12 years old. Oh, and let me tell you man, that's terror, you have to stay in the ocean because you have a bathing suit on. I can't imagine. Oh dude, there was this woman who was topless and she had her two kids with her, but she was obviously, it was boobs,

Starting point is 00:30:24 you know, her alive and everything. I'm sure. Yeah. So you hit her right on that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:30:33 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:30:41 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah gotta swim a little bit longer. I can't, and the water's warm, so it's not helping me. It was a bad situation. Dude, I got a couple articles I wanna share with you guys. It's kinda cool.

Starting point is 00:30:57 I had something to ask you if you read the article on the opioid thing. No, what's going on? Yeah, they had the actually rate, I think it was like 10x. Let me see, I wanted to ask you, I thought for sure you would have read this already by now. Some drug company raised the price of the life saving opioid

Starting point is 00:31:14 overdose antidote, more than 600%. Really? Yeah, as the nation is struggling with a rising number of opioid, opioid, opioids. Opioids. Yeah, help me out here. Opioid, I can't put it in there. Yeah, I don't want to. Opeoid. Opeoid. Opeoid. Opeoid. Help me out here. Opeoid I can't put that in. I don't want to.

Starting point is 00:31:28 I know. You know what it is? Opeoid. You've trained us to just go with your pronunciations. Well, no. Now what happens now? It's plugged up in your head. Yeah, you said it 10 times.

Starting point is 00:31:37 I don't know if I can. That's it. You have everybody knows the part I'm trying to say. Opeoid. Opeoid. It's a weird word. It isn't weird word. Opeoid. It isn't real off the're gonna be we don't roll off the talk anyway

Starting point is 00:31:46 It's kind of dorky Oh, they they they increased the price of it by 600 percent. How fucked up is that dude? Well right where were them? It's just a hustle. It's like it is, but no, it's it's it's it's at a It's because insurance companies will pay it. That's what it is If it was there was no insurance companies and come people had to pay this shit They wouldn't go they wouldn't be able to sell it for that much more. It's a market, so they're going to charge as much as they can or as much as consumers are

Starting point is 00:32:11 willing to pay. If insurance covers it, well, that totally raises the price. The point is it's a dirty hustle, of course, and the government's involved with it. Is it true that the past, pharmaceutical companies had like two lobbyists per like senator or like rep like oh bro you know me you have lobbyists in Washington just like crazy right like they're getting so much representation that they had like it was like a two to one ratio something. Oh like when they ban you know they're trying to make CBD illegal but they'll allow pharmaceutical companies to sell CBD.

Starting point is 00:32:47 But it's fully illegal, even though it's one of the safest possible things that you can take. There's almost no way to overdose on it. Well, that whole process in theory, it's the whole lobbyist stuff. Thank you. So I got one for you.

Starting point is 00:32:58 That's a little, I wanna see what you guys is, what your guys' reaction is to this. I'm just gonna read the title. Okay. And no, by the way, and by the way, I'm gonna preface this by saying, this is a real article, I'm not making this up. Okay.

Starting point is 00:33:11 It's not from the onion, or you're saying? No, no, this is real. Lab-grown mini-brains spontaneously produced human-like brain waves for the first time. What? Mini-brains? Yes, so scientists took stem cells and created mini brains. These are basically neurons and stuff that are super primitive brains, but they're based off

Starting point is 00:33:33 of human stem cells. And they measured that they're now producing human-like brain waves. So, this is a little laboratory. So, we're creating leprechauns. Is that what's going on? Oh, it's a fuck is going on. What are we doing? We're producing little brains in the lab. Now I know what it is, it's not a brain. It's like tissue. Yeah, but still it's picking up brain waves.

Starting point is 00:33:55 What if it's a consciousness? Like what if we just, what if this brain is developing a creepy thought? And it's like, where am I? You know, and it's in a lab. Well I heard somewhere else too that like, it's already, they've already had a successful trans-head transplant with a monkey.

Starting point is 00:34:09 They take the actual head and move it to another monkey. Yeah, they have a head and put it on another body. Like, that's already been a successful practice. What? Yeah. I didn't know that. How weird would that be? I know, right?

Starting point is 00:34:19 I didn't know that. I was like, what? Like Frankenstein? Like that type of shit? Crazy. That is great. What if you, what, if you can transplant your head on someone else would you do it with? logical question Man the best athlete in the world to think about that. Yeah, I'm saying. Yeah, it'd be like the best the best athlete

Starting point is 00:34:39 I just would be Thor. Yes. Yeah, my wife already fancised about it. I might as well go all in Yeah, I need the hair and I got his body. Oh, yeah, no, yeah That'd be kind of weird you wake up and you're in another body. Yeah, this is weird. Yeah, look at there's been there's been these We're I've read these articles where people will get that's a future for fat people did right? Just get hell of fat head change out for a skinny one That's the future for fat people, dude. Just get hell of fat and change out for a skinny one. Yeah. Who's to have a fat face?

Starting point is 00:35:06 Right, this fucking body almost to the grave and then be like, I'm out. We give you a new one. Your face doesn't match. There's another one. I've read articles where they, people have gotten heart transplants and stuff and then have had weird,

Starting point is 00:35:21 like their personalities would change or they've had almost like memories from the person whose heart they took. Right. Have you read about this? Yes. How weird is that? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:35:32 Cause there's this theory that sells store some type of memory or information. And they've stressed too, like with fascia that that's like people have claimed that you know, you store memories somehow within that tissue. I kind of make sense and then kind of, and then the other side of me's like, get out of here.

Starting point is 00:35:48 Have you guys ever heard of the movie Shattered? Doug Google Shattered. So, oh, fuck, movies. No, what's that about? Like a kid. The guy gets in a car accident and he wakes up from this coma and he's like, he thinks he's himself, but he's somebody else.

Starting point is 00:36:05 They put somebody else's face on him and it fucks up all his memories and he starts having like quantum leap or was that show? Oh, it's Pierce Brosnan. Brosman? Bro, what year is that? 2007. I thought it was older than that.

Starting point is 00:36:20 Bro, it's still 11 years old. That's, yeah. It's all greeny. It's, it's gotta be something else. That's the old. How old is that? It's all greeny. It's got to be something else. Maybe you're thinking of a different movie. Yeah, maybe it's a different name. You know our form, someone.

Starting point is 00:36:32 Oh, Shatter 1991. 1991. Yeah, it's on that one. It's old like that. Let's see. Oh, is that right there? Yeah, that's it right there. Interesting.

Starting point is 00:36:40 After a horrific car wreck leaves him an amnesiac, a man slowly begins to unravel his shocking past. I feel like that's the same plot in several movies. Yeah. Yeah, remember they wake up in the like- Well, this is, I mean, this is 91. This is what I do. Exactly.

Starting point is 00:36:55 Yeah. That's interesting. Put it on your list. I have very cool. So I have another article to share with you guys. But along that, like, train of thought though, there was another breakthrough in terms of like, transplants, so like, facial transplants. We just get someone else's face.

Starting point is 00:37:12 Yes. Yeah, I've seen that. Did you see that? Okay, but let's throw out and speculate, like, how problematic that is. Think about it if you're the CIA or KGB or whatever, or somebody's done something, and now they can just take your face

Starting point is 00:37:31 and put it on somebody else. Oh wow, look at that. We also have a John Travolta movie. There's whole articles on this. Can an organ transplant change a recipient's personality? Cell memory theory affirms yes. This is a medical daily. So this is actually something that they've studied that you can actually, you know, gain some essence of

Starting point is 00:37:52 the person from the body part or whatever that you've moved over. This is fascinating. And some kind of genetic transfer. And then you've got the weird illuminatis that are, you know, getting like the blood of young people. Yeah, they're youth You know, that's right. So you think that you're gonna be like where you just you can print on whatever face and body you want I'm not happy with my nose not happy I mean, why would you do that when you could just plug into an or another reality? You wouldn't even need to change anything. There's gonna be this weird divide between organic and inorganic right? need to change anything. It's gonna be this weird divide between organic and

Starting point is 00:38:23 inorganic, right? At some point. There'll be like two gangs. Yeah. Where the oh, it's gonna be, it's gonna be the plug to plug to plug to plug to plug to plug to plug to plug to plug to plug to plug to plug to plug to the genetically modified versus the not and you know right away because you see

Starting point is 00:38:36 someone and you're like, well, you're kind of short and you have quick a teeth, you must be real organic. Yeah. You must be non-GMO. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? You know, so check this out. This is a, this article blew me away. And it's an older article. non-jumo. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know? So check this out.

Starting point is 00:38:45 This is a, this article blew me away. And it's an older article. So I've never, I didn't, never heard of this before. But apparently there's studies that show that baby boys and baby girls receive different nutrients in breast milk. Really? Yeah, they found that if a mother has a girl, the milk will be a little bit different, and if she has a boy, it's a little bit different.

Starting point is 00:39:08 How wild is that? You and the body is so complex. Yeah, that it's just the level of fat, proteins, vitamin sugars, minerals, and hormones, will vary depending on the sex of the child. Wow. I mean, it makes sense, right? Because a growing male or a growing female

Starting point is 00:39:24 are probably have different, yeah, different hormones. Maybe different demands and stuff. Yeah, demands, yeah. But how rad is that? And that, you know, this is like, that's what we're just finding out now. And then we find out how important it's gonna be

Starting point is 00:39:34 for them to have that milk growing up, you know. Well, we know that now. We know it's very important. And so the reason why this is important is because scientists are now saying, okay, maybe we should create formula, you know, kind of like this word for boys and one that's for girls, you know, it's kind of interesting, right? I think what we're gonna discover too is that the whole birthing process is

Starting point is 00:39:56 important for the child and not just from a from a like a what's it called microbiome standpoint and all that but literally from the kind of hormones that are released. Yeah, there's some, I heard somewhere talking about how like even the pressure of going through the canal like helps to form the brain in some way too, like more malleable or something. I don't know, I mean, because there's all these different chemicals and hormones that are released

Starting point is 00:40:21 that caught that help with bonding. There's some studies that show that women that have natural by childbirth, have lower rates of postpartum, have easier time breastfeeding because these chemicals are stuff that are released during that process, obviously part of the evolutionary process, right? Who are we just talking to that was talking about?

Starting point is 00:40:39 That was the first time I'd ever heard this, that I didn't even know that the mother can produce, the milk changes based off of when the feeding time is. So if it's like coming out at night time versus coming out of the morning, that's weird. Oh, you didn't know that? No. Yeah, it helped the baby sleep at night.

Starting point is 00:40:53 So there's like, if you, like more colossal, so let's say you are, you know, you pump and you get out four or five bottles and you get it out in like the morning time and you feed the baby at night time. A lot of times the baby at nighttime. A lot of times the baby will have a hard time sleeping.

Starting point is 00:41:06 Oh shit, that makes sense. Yeah, that makes sense. Crazy, right? Everything we try to do that's opposite of nature. Right. We end up finding that's not the right way to do it. But I thought you guys were with me when someone was dropping this on me. I never heard that before.

Starting point is 00:41:20 Yeah, I remember that either. Perfect sense. It does not make sense. Because nighttime milk would probably help the baby sleep more. And the milk that you produce throughout the day, I'm sure some of it's gonna have more of some nutrients, some of it will have less nutrients. Sure, yeah.

Starting point is 00:41:33 You know, because the way it was in the past was that Doug says give the baby gold juice. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You said, we need to know again about that. We need to know how to get. We need to know her.

Starting point is 00:41:45 We need to know her. We need to know her. We need to know her. We need to know her. We need to know her. We need to know her. We need to know her. We need to know her.

Starting point is 00:41:53 We need to know her. We need to know her. We need to know her. We need to know her. We need to know her. We need to know her. We need to know her. We need to know her.

Starting point is 00:42:01 We need to know her. We need to know her. We need to know her. We need to know her. We need to know her. We need to is for adults. It does make you fall asleep, by the way. That is very true. But I mean, the more you move away from nature, because the way it was for most of human civilization, when a mother had a child, that baby was glued to her for a while.

Starting point is 00:42:15 Like she would strap the baby. If you watch modern hunter-gatherers, they strap the baby on. All day long. All day long, and the mom works and does shit. And then the baby is close to the breast. So when the baby wants to go on a seat, it just reaches up and eats.

Starting point is 00:42:28 Right. You know, which is, yeah, more ideal for the baby because then it's like when it's hungry, it just eats. It is. How crazy is that though? Yeah. That's pretty wild, dude. I'm glad you shared that with us.

Starting point is 00:42:38 Five times. I thought for some reason I thought you told me or was somebody who was with all of us. Yeah, that makes perfect. I know even processes. I got my two, but it must have been my other best us. Yeah, that makes perfect. I know even tosses is there. I got my two, but it must have been my other best friends. We were all together and they had the two kids they just had. So they have a six month old, a three month old.

Starting point is 00:42:52 So of course, baby talkers, all we talk about these days and we all get together. And so that was some of the latest knowledge I heard. I must have been them that I heard it from them. You're gonna be giving Katrina like, create team, yeah, project partner. Dude, I'm almost scared to be a father because of all the information that I have in my brain now.

Starting point is 00:43:10 It's too much. It's almost too much, right? To where I will shut it off. Right, I think that would be, you know, I'm grateful for it. I would never take it back, you know. But I know I'm already prepared for the negative side of it, right?

Starting point is 00:43:24 It's gonna cause me I already catch myself with it like talking to Katrina about certain things are you gonna be one of those weird parents We're gonna come to your house and see if I don't be a helicopter turn off your phone Please can you wash your hands put on a hair net? Yeah, I mean why is your whole house covered in foam? Oh, it's safe. We don't want the but the worry it's organic foam Yeah, from natural latex They lick it. They'll be okay. Yeah, they'll be fine. It's edible You know, it'll be you'll be one of those weird parents. Yeah, no, it's um It definitely can scare the shed you but it's funny because one generation ago people were smoking while they were pregnant

Starting point is 00:43:56 And you know, I mean drinking and my my cousin my older cousin got delivered in Sicily and the doctor Literally put his cigarette down to pull the baby out. That's a true story. That's the old school. That's a true story. That's so great.

Starting point is 00:44:12 He's like smoking. She tells a story because she cracks up because she's like, yeah, he was smoking. He puts the cigarette down in the ass tray. Oh, baby's coming. Pull the baby. That's crazy to do. Different times, man.

Starting point is 00:44:24 So crazy to think of that. I think of like the airplanes and shit dude. You mentioned me on a plane and like the whole plane smoking. Oh my gosh. Just horrific. Just a cloud right? Dude, just being in Chicago when I first got there, like they hadn't really cracked down on the whole smoking

Starting point is 00:44:40 in restaurants and like bars and all that. And so that I just remembered being like, oh my God, I couldn't breathe. It just affected me so much just being around this. What I find hilarious though, is how fast public perception will change, but then it's also not, and here's an example. If you're walking down the street

Starting point is 00:44:59 in San Jose or San Francisco, and you're smoking a cigarette, you're gonna get dirty looks as you walk by people, right? Yeah. People are gonna look at you like, oh, put that away, like, let's smoke somewhere. You walk by people smoking a joint, nobody's gonna say anything to you.

Starting point is 00:45:11 Yeah, it's like, oh, that's cool. That's me. Now. How funny is that? 10 years ago, it wasn't like that. No, no, no, it wasn't. 10 years ago, it wasn't like that at all. No, people would be like, what the fuck? Yeah, I mean, but how funny is that, you know?

Starting point is 00:45:22 It's so different now. It is. And we gotta remember too, for here, it's probably not like that still in a lot of places the kind of someone's listening right now going like it's definitely not like that over here like there's lots of stigma yeah because I remember when it when I was first getting into the the cannabis clubs and I became really comfortable around it that I would be I would open I would smoke in public and people would be with me and they'd be like what are you doing like? Like, I can want, you know, I just had a dinner. I want to take two little puss of this.

Starting point is 00:45:46 It was a big deal. Like, well, we're out and pumped. We're outside and pumped. Like, so was someone going to see me. You smell it from your mouth. I arrested for a joint. Like, that's not going to happen right now. Like, they got better things to do.

Starting point is 00:45:56 But did you know, speaking of which, did you know Mexico, if I'm not mistaken, their Supreme Court essentially legalized marijuana over there? So I guess there was a case that went to the Supreme Court, maybe Doug can look this up. And now Mexico has essentially decriminalized marijuana. And I guess they're on the path towards recreational legalization. What's actually due to all the curtails? Well, you've got to mix it.

Starting point is 00:46:18 Well, they bring their drugs over here, but you have Mexico, which I think is now moving towards that. Canada just recreationally legalized it. So we're now surrounded, right? You get the North and the South. So we're next. Yeah. Dude, talking to us so long, you guys see that judge that I saw this on Huffington Post.

Starting point is 00:46:36 Or I was Huffington Post, I think I read this on. They just went up yesterday, yesterday or today, the judge that got arrested. He originally got arrested, he originally got arrested for beating his wife. And then a year later, he's being arrested like today, because she was murdered. And he tried to flee the scene. Yeah, Google judge, judge attempts murder or murder's wife, see what pops right up, I'm sure it'll come right up. Is this a, is this like a local state judge or I dad

Starting point is 00:47:05 I don't know like see I don't the article didn't I don't think the article said where where he was That's crazy would you would you Ohio judge arrested in connection with death? Yeah, it's he's a yeah, yeah, it's He's a county judge. That's crazy. It's isn't a weird how some people could be so Successful and intelligent, but then be so dysfunctional. That's isn't it weird how some people could be so successful and intelligent, but then be so dysfunctional. That's why I brought it up. You were talking about core and these people, I think, man, that was, I saw that article and to me it wasn't newsworthy to talk about, but because you said that I'm just thinking, I was thinking the same thing. I was like, man, that's so crazy to me. How someone could get that far up our chain of someone who makes decisions over people's lives.

Starting point is 00:47:42 That's a good, that's a good point. You how how does somebody of that character make it that way because you know I don't know that it signs along the way right well. Yeah, he was already well He was obviously I'm sure he was thrown off once he got arrested for beating his wife And he beat him in front of his kids and shit and that's how they that's how he got powered Yeah, just coward, but how does someone get into that big? That's a huge role Yeah, you know like being a judge like you've been you've been doing a lot of shit in the system for a long time before Howard, just, Howard. But how does someone get into that big, that's a huge role. Like being a judge, like you've been, you've been doing a lot of shit in the system

Starting point is 00:48:08 for a long time before you make it to that level, right? I mean, you don't just get appointed a judge, I know where. Yeah, I know, it's a good point. I think it might highlight a little bit of a fallacy that if somebody is successful in one realm, we automatically assume that they're really good, successful, smart, balanced people. This happens with celebrities all the time.

Starting point is 00:48:30 You'll ask somebody about a celebrity, like, what do you think of Will Ferrell or what do you think of whoever? Oh, fucking love that guy. Such a great guy. As if they know him and as if he's gonna be intelligent or other things. Yeah, but behind closed doors,

Starting point is 00:48:43 he's like some asshole or some shit. Right, right, addicted to drugs and totally dysfunctional or whatever. Yeah, but behind closed doors, he's like some asshole or some shit. Right, right, right. You know, addicted to drugs and totally dysfunctional, or whatever. So, you know, kind of, to be honest, that when you talk about celebrities, it's in my experience, and of course, this is just my own personal experience.

Starting point is 00:48:54 Somebody else could have a different one. It's more often than not that. It's more often that they were super talented, whether it be musically or, you know, acting or something like that that's made them or an artist that's made them just extra special in that area, but then they're dysfunctional and other parts of their life. And normally it's just weird how we balance out as humans like that sometimes. You know, if you're super brilliant, then you're super socially awkward, or it's like

Starting point is 00:49:21 it's rare that you meet this brilliant Christmas. And then when we see that, we see companies like Apple happen. You know what I'm saying? When you, you see brilliance and someone with, well, it's almost like you have only so many resources and you have to allocate them, you know, accordingly. So if you're like, going to be the best, you have to like take away, it points to the video game thing that we always talk about. Yeah, it's only the bars. Yes, like the speculating like we're in this simulated thing and we're a video game and it's like okay Adam you have intelligence you have work ethic you have this you have artistry you have athleticism

Starting point is 00:49:50 Where you have allocate your points? Yeah, you have a hundred points where you gonna put them You know saying like before the game is automatic Yeah, and really lethargic and somebody goes fuck I'm going all in on artistry Yeah, I'm going all in on athletic and then they're just fucking shit everywhere. It makes you wonder, it makes me a lot of times a darkness. But you know, high intelligence is correlated with mental illness. We've known that for a little while. And when you look at, for example, when you look at the two genders male and female, men

Starting point is 00:50:19 make up a disproportionate percentage of people on either end of the spectrum, both the super high achievers, but also the fucking crazy lunatic. You're tilting on the edge. You're on the edge. I think what it is is average is safe, and going outside of average, it's kind of like you can be super smart, super intelligent,

Starting point is 00:50:38 or you could fucking, we could, we could fuck up and be super crazy. Your deficiencies get highlighted a lot more. Well, don't you think like part of brilliance is this like almost manic side of you about something like that's I think so. Like, when people are brilliant, they're really just like gifted in that. What's caused that brilliance is the restlessness in their brain. Hyper-focus.

Starting point is 00:51:01 Yes, the restlessness in their brain about a subject, a topic, a sport. It could be anything like that, but you're obsessive about it to the point to where it's probably not very beneficial and a lot of many other aspects of your life, but it has, and it's funny that we all naturally aspire to that. Isn't that fascinating to me? Well, we really do. Well, we value it because it's important for society. I mean, it's the brilliant people that make the breakthroughs.

Starting point is 00:51:29 It's the brilliant people that do the things that really transform societies in positive ways. It's also the... It's almost like they sacrifice their life for the greater good of humanity, right? It's like you spent your whole life obsessing over getting to space, you know, which has served us as all of us as humans as a race, right? But do you have, it's crazy to think how much we... Well, how much torment a lot of those people have. Yes. A lot of them are very, very tormented when I watch them. So I mean, they're sacrificing for us.

Starting point is 00:51:59 When I watch that, the interview with Rogan and Elon Musk. There were moments where he's kind of saying, like, you don't wanna be in my head. I almost feel like, oh, this guy's a little bit tormented. Yeah. He probably doesn't sleep much, probably doesn't see his family that often and he can't shut off. And that's gotta be, you just gotta be tormented. There's probably a longing too,

Starting point is 00:52:18 he has to be a little more balanced. Exactly, he is. Exactly. So. This quaz brought to you by Organified. For those days you fall short on getting your organic veggies or whole food nutrition, Exactly, exactly. Organifi.com. That's O-R-G-A-N-I-F-I.com. And use a coupon code MindPump for 20% off at checkout. First question is from Prime and Glory. What is the furthest you have regressed a client for particular movement such as a squad or overhead press. Would having them perform movements in a pool be beneficial to those with extreme limitations. Oh yeah.

Starting point is 00:53:05 Yeah, if you have access to a pool's are great if you have access to a pool. Have you guys ever trained somebody in a pool? I've never done it. I've never trained somebody in a pool, but I have trained for the speed using the pool. Really? You guys never, well I guess you ran a super sport,

Starting point is 00:53:18 so I would think you would, we had, we had all, every gym. What a pain in the ass is why I never do. Because you gotta go get your bathing suit on. That's a commitment. Oh no, so what I would do, so I would train outside of the pool, but they would be inside the pool. And so I would perform the movement

Starting point is 00:53:31 and have them do things in there. Obviously, it would be more ideal for me to be in the pool with them, but the way I did it was, it was like an early morning client, typically like the five or six AM person I could do that with when the pool was almost dead. And then I could go in there and I could have them do certain exercises. Yeah, no, it's a what a great resource especially somebody who's had like a major injury and they're just coming at that's a great place

Starting point is 00:53:54 to rehab people, right? Yeah, the thing I love most about resistance training is it's versatility. I can I can modify it. There's pretty much an indefinite amount of ways that I can modify it. There's pretty much an indefinite amount of ways that I can modify resistive training for people. I mean, I've worked with people who have been partially paralyzed and had major injuries. I've worked with some of the worst mobility issues you could imagine.

Starting point is 00:54:16 And it's literally, I had a client once who had just had suffered a stroke. You actually relative to the young man who's in his 30s. And some of our workouts consisted of him sitting in a chair and me having a balloon, and I'd throw the balloon at him, and he'd pop it over with one hand, and he'd pop it over with the other hand.

Starting point is 00:54:34 We're just training hand-eye coordination and just training movement. I've done it where I'll have a client sit on a bench or in a chair, and all they're doing is lifting one knee off the floor and then putting it down and lifting the other knee off the floor. I mean, you can regress somebody as far as you need to, really. You can even have somebody sit in a bench, sit on a bench,

Starting point is 00:54:57 and just push down on the floor without lifting themselves, just activate the muscles that help them stand up. And I... I've sat people on a stability, just sitting them on a stability ball, then having them make circles with their hips. I mean, there's a lot of endless things that I can think of that we could do.

Starting point is 00:55:14 I think that arm bike too, I said I was a client that had the MS, like just every little tiny movement mattered. What was the name of that bike by the arm bike? It was a I can't remember. Yeah, but I loved it for yeah, rehabilitative It was yeah, it was it was it was designed for wheelchair. Yeah, yeah, you know what I used to use it I used to use it for myself because I saw the fucking Russian use it in Rocky for I thought it was simulating like hitting a punching bag

Starting point is 00:55:41 I see I see use the bag shoulders everyone but yeah, you could, I mean, I think it, here's the thing. If I ever had to ask where I was like, if I had a client that just hired me and I'm looking at him or her and I'm like, yeah, I don't know what they could, what they could possibly do. I go as far back as I need to. I'd always rather lean on the side of like, this is safe. They can do this, you know, before I would try something like handing them dumbbells or a barbell or doing something like that.

Starting point is 00:56:09 And yeah, no, I've had lots of clients like you're saying so, I've had clients the whole entire session was like me just having her get up and down from a chair. Yeah. Like see, and me holding her head. The point is you can always do something. Like if they got to the gym, like you can do something with them and it's gonna make a difference. Yeah, they mentioned squat and overhead press.

Starting point is 00:56:29 I'll give you a good one for overhead press because that was a, towards the end of my personal training career, I started training a lot of people in advanced stage. It was just something I enjoyed doing. I got a lot of challenge out of it and I also got a lot of reward out of it. And one of the out of it, and I also got a lot of reward out of it. And one of the mobility issues that become common

Starting point is 00:56:50 as people age, especially decondition individuals, is their inability to reach up above their head. And I would focus on this, not just because it's an important function of the shoulder joint, but because it's an important movement, it's a daily skill. Like if you're 75 years old and you lose the ability to really reach above your head,

Starting point is 00:57:09 well now you've lost the top two shelves in your kitchen and you're dependent on somebody else to get things for you. You have a tough time putting on your shirt and you can't, and so that was always something that I would focus on because that's okay, well you need to be able to reach up above your head just like you need to be able to walk and sit down and get up by yourself. Yeah. And so one thing that I would focus on because that's okay, you need to be able to reach up above your head, just like you need to be able to walk and sit down and get up by yourself. And so one thing that I would do, and here's a great regression, is first off, you want to test and see if there's any limitations in mobility because of pain or impingement or actual joint problems. And it's all

Starting point is 00:57:39 all you do is you take the person's arm while they're sitting down, and what I would do is I'd stand behind them and I'd place my hip on their back to give them support because what'll happen when you pull their arm up is they're gonna try and lean back just because they don't have the mobility. So I place up my hip against their back so they have something to lean up against. I take their arm, I tell them to relax and then I see if I could stretch their arm up above their head. If I could do that relatively well or if it was just a little tight because muscles were tight, then I knew that, okay, we could totally work with the strength. We could really try and build strength to improve this person's mobility. If I move the arm up and then they'd like, oh, it hurts my shoulder,

Starting point is 00:58:15 then I know that there's something else I'm dealing with. But more often than not, it wouldn't hurt them. They were just tight. And if they were relaxed, I was able to get the arm up above their head, but they wouldn't be able to do it on their own They just couldn't do it. So here's a great regression for somebody with that kind of an issue I grab a broomstick. I'd have them hold on with both arms with both arms in front of them Then I'd grab the ends of the broomstick and I'd pull it up above their head So they kind of hang on to the stick and I would have them pull down just a little bit that downward pull Actually opens up the shoulder joint a little bit. Then I'd hold it at the top and then I'd say, okay,

Starting point is 00:58:49 now what I want you to do is try and hold your arms up here and let go of the stick. And then they'd let go of the stick and all of a sudden they'd be able to create some tension and a portion of range of motion that they'd have before. Now I did a lot of these things when we were training, but with the knowledge that I have now, if I were to go back and I think almost training. But with the knowledge that I have now, if I were to go back and I think almost everybody that I can think of that I did all these kind of real basic moves with, I could almost live in Prime Pro.

Starting point is 00:59:15 Dude, just cars for each one of these joints. Right. I think that right there is one of the most beneficial things that you can do with a majority of people when you first get them and that's a majority. Very few people I think should not at least start in that area. And so if I was just, if I was starting training today, and I had all the knowledge from my past experiences and the certification stuff that we've been through now, almost everybody in my opinion would fit the category of, oh, if I have to really

Starting point is 00:59:44 regress this person, what we're gonna do is we're just gonna look at every major joint in the body and we're gonna try and get them reconnected and that operating correctly. Yeah, and I think to like, you know, using tools, you know, very helpful still to kind of provide that kind of a feedback.

Starting point is 01:00:01 So like, I would use sticks and I would use, you know, cable machine and props and things to be able to get them into a range that they saw oh well I can get here. So it's almost like it builds a belief system. And then once you get that belief system we go and we work on you know like attaching yourself to that. And so to do it, Sal said those far as like having them, you know, let go, but now squeezing and trying to maintain that range of motion, that's everything, that's all part of that, you know, intrinsic force production.

Starting point is 01:00:33 Here's an easy regression for squats for somebody who has really bad mobility or strength issues. An easy one is to teach them how to sit down and stand up. And first you can have them use their hands as support. And then you can progress them to being able to sit down and stand up. And first you can have them use their hands to support. And then you can progress them to being able to sit down and stand up without holding on to something. And then from there, physiol ball squats with the ball up against the wall.

Starting point is 01:00:54 Very basic, easy movement. You could do short ranges of motion at first. And little by little, increase the range of the motion. They're leaning up against the physiol ball. The physiol ball is kind of in the smaller back. They're feet are away from it. And you can stand next to them to support them. One of the best props, right?

Starting point is 01:01:09 Because now you can guide their spine where you want it. And to go down in that certain angle. So it's a very helpful feedback. So they get that immediate feedback of what they're doing. One thing that never ceased to amaze me. Every single time I trained somebody somebody over the 20 years that I trained clients where they had lots of limitations, never ceased to amaze me how much they would change and improve. It was always mind blowing every single time.

Starting point is 01:01:35 Right, look at this person who six months ago you know was was walking with a cane or couldn't reach above their head or couldn't sit down without assistance is now doing full range of motion physioball squats against the wall. I mean, I would see stuff like that all the time. It's now on a day-to-day basis, it's a slow progression. But when you would look at it over six months or a year, it got to the point where I would take pictures

Starting point is 01:02:01 or I would take video or I'd write things down because then I'd tell the client, hey, you remember six months ago, you could barely lift your arm up above their head and sometimes it wouldn't even believe me. Oh no, I was able to reach above my head and I'd show them the video and be like, watch this. No, one thing I know in terms of squat that I would do if I was to go back and just start immediately doing this instead to regress would be to elevate the heels substantially and to provide one of those half foam rolls underneath, which is I've been doing actually with clients like where knees are an issue,

Starting point is 01:02:38 you know, hips are an issue. There's just limitations that are already there, but to have them see that immediately, this is one thing, you know, because of your ankles, like this is one of those things that this is the limitation and see now it there's no, there's no pain. Whoa, there's no restriction. Like that's an immediate like, aha for them. Yeah, there's, I remember when I dislocated my kneecap when I was 13 really bad And I had to wear the straight leg brace for a while and then after that I wore this knee brace with the hinges on either side and I know you guys are familiar with that and You know, I would go to school and I'd wear this fucking knee brace and luckily the style was big baggy pants But it was like it never felt stable. Never felt stable. I would do the physical therapy exercises, which helped a little bit. And finally, one day I got fed up and I went to the gym because I was already working out my upper body and I'm like, fuck it.

Starting point is 01:03:34 I'm going to just do some leg press. I'm going to do some weight even though they told me not to. I'm going to do some weight and I'm just going to be very careful. Within a matter of weeks, my leg was almost back to normal. Weeks, it was like, I remember as a 13-year-old being like, people need to know about this. You know, it's therapy. Yeah, it makes that big of a difference.

Starting point is 01:03:54 Same thing with my shoulder surgery, it was supposed to take me three months before I could lift weights like I was before within six weeks I was doing it. I've seen this time and time again with clients. Doesn't matter their age, the progression. But the key is you have to, I think what Adam, what you said earlier, is something we don't wanna skimp over,

Starting point is 01:04:13 which is it's better to start to go too easy than it is to go too hard. So air on the side of safety and ease, when you're dealing with someone with mobility as a person. I would literally take, like this person, if we're talking about squatting or pressing it, it would, I would be 90, 90 and retroll lift. Those movements, because retroll lift, even somebody who's 80 years old can't get, she can walk herself down into that position to where using the floor to guide her to get

Starting point is 01:04:41 her hand with it. Right, right. And then all you're trying to do is get her to lift those arms up in that elevated position with the hands above the head. And if you need to, you can assist them and then have them hold it. Yeah, have to try and hold it one at a time. Yeah, one, exactly.

Starting point is 01:04:55 It just waking that all up in there and making sure that he or she can even do that. And then 90, 90, and the goal would be to get to a 99, I might have to use yoga blocks because somebody may be that decondition that they can't even get into a 90, 90, which that right there is super obvious to me that if she can't even get into a 90, 90,

Starting point is 01:05:17 then fuck, okay, well, I definitely shouldn't be loading them with a squat, like let's stay live there and get them working in that area, that's, you'll get progress from that. I know they're not gonna with a squat, like let's stay live there and get them working in that area. That's, you'll get progress from that. I know they're not going to get a burn, they're not going to get a huge sweat from it. Although, I'll tell you what, if you do the Prime Pro movements right with good intent, it's a workout. Of course.

Starting point is 01:05:37 Yeah, absolutely. You get a good sweat going too. In fact, you should go into it with that, because it isn't an intensity-based thing. We want the intent is to be intense and connect that way. So it could actually be an incredible workout for a lot of people. All right. Next question is from Ian Merle 92 from the first half to the second half of your careers. What was the biggest change in how you train clients that made the biggest difference?

Starting point is 01:06:02 Oh, easy. This is easy for me. There's a lot of changes I made by the way. I'm gonna be clear. It wasn't one change. I made a lot of changes from the early days of my personal training career towards the end. But one of the biggest ones was that,

Starting point is 01:06:16 when I first started training people, it was all about getting them sore and making them sweat a lot. It was like, I'm gonna make this person have, my idea of a great workout was a hard workout. And so when I'd get clients, it was about, I'm gonna make this person have my idea of a great workout was a hard workout. And so when I get clients, it was about, I'm gonna make you sore, I'm gonna make you feel this, you're gonna feel all your muscles ache, you're gonna sweat. My job is to motivate you and make you pumped up and excited.

Starting point is 01:06:36 And that's what I thought was good training. The second half of my career, I realized that that was not only a less effective approach, but it was an entirely ineffective approach. I realized that intent was more important and that I needed to train people appropriately, not just because you can hurt them or not just because it's too hard, but really because the body actually responds better and faster. They get better and faster results if I train them appropriately. So I'll give you an example of what a workout

Starting point is 01:07:06 would look like in the first half of my career versus the second half. So let's say I got a new client, and this is like year one as a personal trainer. And this person's coming to me and they're like, I wanna lose weight and I wanna get in shape. And I'm like, what part of the body's, what part of your body do you wanna focus on?

Starting point is 01:07:21 And it's a female, she's like, oh, it's my legs, I really wanna work on my legs. And she has no history of exercise. Here's what the first workout would look like. Lunges, leg press, leg curls, leg extension, some kind of a jump squat, and then it'll have them do some crazy shit on an elliptical or something.

Starting point is 01:07:36 I'm not even exaggerating. No, it's a total workout. 100%. Like, oh, you owe me. For sure, I wrote that one. Yeah, oh, legs is your target? No problem. I'm going to fuck you up.

Starting point is 01:07:44 I've got some legs for you. Yeah, and that's what I was going to For sure I wrote that one. Yeah, oh legs is your target? No problem. I'm gonna fuck you up. I got some legs for you. Yeah, and that's what I was gonna know. I worked her legs. Now here's what it would look like second time around. These legs are done. Here's what it would look like if I trained the person after about five, six, seven years or 10 years of training someone.

Starting point is 01:07:56 They'd come in, same goal, same everything. It'd be an assessment, correctional exercise, 90, 90. We may do one leg exercise, but really it's gonna be at like super moderate intensity. I'm gonna throw in some stuff for her posture. I'm gonna throw in a few things for her core, just to activate, and then she's gonna leave, and she's probably gonna say something like,

Starting point is 01:08:17 I really don't feel like it worked out. I really don't feel like I worked out that and then I have to explain what's going on. Totally different, totally and completely different. Yeah, I think for't feel like I worked out that way and then I have to explain what's going on. Yeah, totally different. Totally and completely different. Yeah, I think for me, it was assuming that people could do all these things, you know, but I just had to coach him better on it. Like I had to just give him better coaching cues and like work my way through these movements as they were, you know, performing them. What a fucking disaster that was. Like, just trying to see all like, that's where it was really eye opening to me. I'm like, oh my god, what a fucking disaster that was. Like, just trying to see all, like,

Starting point is 01:08:45 that's where it was really eye opening to me. I'm like, oh my God, what are you doing with, like, I would get mad at them. Like, what are you doing with your arm here? Like, why is it going this way? Like, what are your knees? Like, no, keep them straight. And like, try to hold their knees together.

Starting point is 01:08:58 You know, like, like, trying to like, it was all reactive, you know? Be in somebody who's managed so many trainers. Like, that's such a common reaction to all my athlete trainers. Yes, because I got, because you have been in the athletic world since you were a kid, and you've picked up mechanics and form and technique,

Starting point is 01:09:16 and you're around other athletes who have the same thing, then all of a sudden you get this grown ass man or woman, and they can't fucking squad, you're like, what the fuck, she's baffled. And you're like, what the fuck? She's baffled me. I'm like, what am I supposed to do with this? We have months to train still. You know, like, so.

Starting point is 01:09:32 I'm telling you to keep your elbow in and it's out. It's out. I'm telling you what to do. Did you understand that I said that? You know, like, you get like mad at it. Then you're showing them the, and this is what it's supposed to look like. 100% and that was half of my training was like,

Starting point is 01:09:44 I was always demonstrating like every single time, time demonstrating. What like guarantee there's still trainers out there like that, this is like, wait, hold on, this is how you do it. It's like, they're trying to mirror that to them, like that fucking works. So anyway, so my new approach, like later on,

Starting point is 01:10:01 was like, it's smarter and realize like, oh my God, okay, like, you have to really understand like what, where they're at, and like, how do we find all this information? So you have to really do a diligent job of assessing and gathering all this information ahead of time, same thing with nutrition, you know, I was like terrible about just, okay, well,

Starting point is 01:10:22 I'm gonna determine everything you're doing, you know, you're gonna be eating this, you're gonna do this, I'm gonna determine everything you're doing. You know, you're gonna be eating this. You're gonna do this. I'm gonna throw away all your shit. You know, I'm gonna put my shit in there. Oh, I used to go, there was special clients. You signed up for like six months or a year with me? I did the same.

Starting point is 01:10:34 I go to their house. Yeah, I've been to their house, clean their cup of towel, do all that shit. That's, I wasn't gonna say that one, but that is actually another... I totally forgot about that. Another major game changer for me was I wrote diets the first half of my career. Meal plants, yeah, what you're going to eat this every condition to think like that.

Starting point is 01:10:51 Yeah, or go in your car, go in your house, and I would throw everything in the garbage and start all over that definitely was the first half, the back half, I began to ask them to track and be normal and eat what you're eating. Let me see it. And from there, I coached. And that was a game changer, game changer to help people that way. And they adhere to it better,

Starting point is 01:11:14 because you're not taking somebody who never had tuna out of the can and never did eggs in the morning and also asking them to do that. That person was eating aga waffles. They never ate too. They like begrudging. Yeah eating themselves already like can I do this for six weeks? What about that? I paid this guy for six weeks What about the early meal butter? Yeah, I'm just gonna say what about the early meal plans you would write

Starting point is 01:11:37 I would try and just match like peanut butter and rice cake Like no, I would do stuff like that where I'd be like, oh, we need more fat. I'll just throw in some olive oil. I'll just, people be like, yeah, I sound, I don't want to eat four tablespoons of beer. This is a weird meal. I don't know, but you're trying to make the macros

Starting point is 01:11:54 to fit in. I don't want to eat four tablespoons of peanut butter and a chicken breast. So that was a big, that was a big game changer. The other one was, I'm like, I'm like you, Sal, the overuse of intensity was the biggest game changer. The other one was I'm like, I'm like, you sell the, the overuse of intensity was the biggest game changer and the front half of my career. It was about six, seven. It get as many days in the gym, blast, and you like that as much as I possibly can. The back

Starting point is 01:12:15 half of my career, and it was crazy when I put this together because also in the front half, I would make fun of a trainer that would probably talk like this where I was asking the client, I only wanted them training like three days a week, splitting their bodies up. Now telling them, I don't want any of this high intensity work, I want them to do steps. Steps was a game changer for me.

Starting point is 01:12:36 Managing to people's steps, like when the wearables came out and back then it was body bugs, like it just made me such a better trainer because now I could peer into the other, the other considering their lifestyle. Right, like now I'm exactly, I'm looking at, cause and there's such a huge variance. Some clients are fucking lazy as shit.

Starting point is 01:12:57 They never break 2000 steps a day or they are always in cars in front of desk because of that. Or the other extreme where I've had people that are just maniacs, they walk and move all over, and like the way you approach those two people is completely different, right? And they're also going to be in different places. Metabolism-wise because of that. So that gave me a whole new perspective that I never took into consideration in the front half of my career. And so now instead of putting so much energy and focus on the 16 minutes that I had them and

Starting point is 01:13:25 I was going to crush them for their workout, I actually began focusing on their movement and activity outside of seeing me. And what was great was it was so easy. It's like just by telling them, hey, this week I want you to get X amount of steps, make sure you never have less than this many days. Go for a walk if you have to, walk at lunch and like, and then what people don't realize is that's, you know, week over, week over, week, I it lunch and like, and then what people don't realize is that's, you know, week over, week over, week,

Starting point is 01:13:47 I'm creating a colore deficit, so I'm not even really having to manipulate their food very much, I'm not having to increase their intensity and their training very much, I'm just getting them to add these walks in through their week and they're starting to drop pounds of fat and they're loving you like you're this magician, but it's like, I just, if taught them,

Starting point is 01:14:04 they need to be more aware of their movement they're in the week. Yeah, one of the other changes early on was a lot of machines. I get a new client and we would go from machine to machine to machine. We're going to chest here, we're going to back here, we're going to do shoulders here, oh legs and some workouts were entirely made up of machines. The only people that have them would use free weights would be that people really interested in building muscle where maybe younger and you know, wanted to, especially the guys or whatever. But it was a lot of machines. The back half of my career, no machines, ever.

Starting point is 01:14:35 Almost never would I use a machine. In fact, my personal training studio, the only machine that I had were cables. And everything we did in there involved either free weights or your body or a stick or bands, and that was it. And we were far more successful in terms of getting people, you know, good results and getting people's bodies to feel better and progress.

Starting point is 01:14:56 That was a huge one for me. I remember when I got my studio and I was thinking, you know, my partner at the time was like, do you know, do you want to buy any machines? I'm like, for what? There's really no use for them whatsoever. Next question is from Red Bell Review. What are your best strategies for accountability

Starting point is 01:15:11 for someone who isn't naturally self-disciplined? Cattle prod. Cattle prod. Cattle prod. Ah! Yeah. When, from a personal trainer standpoint for clients, and then I can give you what I guess I,

Starting point is 01:15:25 well, I actually can extend this to myself and to everyone else, but what I figured out a long time ago as a personal trainer was, most people are not fitness fanatics, and most people will never become fitness fanatics. So we're gonna talk about accountability in the context of fitness. And that was a realization for me, like, okay,

Starting point is 01:15:45 most people are never gonna just love to work out all the time like I do, it's just not gonna happen. The people that do are already in the gym working out all the time or work in fitness. Most people aren't gonna do that. And so I realized I need to make this session or every session that this person comes in, enjoyable. And part of that was the workout, part of it was,

Starting point is 01:16:08 they're getting good results and they're feeling good. And the other part of it, and I hate to say it, clients, I had clients that would show up because they like to hang out with me. And then we'd work out while they would come in. And that kept people very accountable because people would show up because they would look forward,

Starting point is 01:16:24 you know, it's really no different than when you were a kid and you had classes and then there was one teacher that you really like to fucking listen to and whatever and they made whatever subject really fun and so kind of default, you learned a lot of that subject. I think that's the most effective in terms of my own understanding as well and go through the process of trying to keep clients

Starting point is 01:16:48 motivated, accountable, and you get swept into this whole momentum side of it, well, oh, there's some like motivated right now, and let's get it in as much as possible, and then you just pour all the stuff on them at once, and yeah, the most effective Thing that once I start realizing that you know, I'm not feeding into that momentum of oh my god I want to get it. I'm gonna get rid of this 10 pounds and I'm gonna do this and I just okay

Starting point is 01:17:16 That you know, that's great But it was all just about the consistency. It was about I will see you tomorrow And it's like the expectation of I'm here, you know, you're gonna be here and you know, we're gonna have a good time. And it's an environment that's inviting and it's not like we're focusing on like hammering this fad off or whatever. This was the difference between training clients

Starting point is 01:17:39 for, you know, when I first became a trainer, I'd have clients that would stay with me for three months, six months, sometimes a year. A year was a long time when I first became a trainer, I'd have clients that would stay with me for three months, six months, sometimes a year. A year was a long time when I first became a trainer. If you had a client that stayed with you for a year or longer, or two years, my God, everybody was like, that's crazy. Towards the end of my career, my average client was with me for eight years plus, and I had many clients that had been with me for more than 10 years.

Starting point is 01:18:00 And the big difference was that enjoyment they would come in, and they'd love to be, to meet with me and to do these things. And that was a big part of it. And if you think about this for yourself, this is where we can extend this to everything else, if you can find something about the thing you're trying to become accountable towards, if you can find something about it and that's enjoyable, you know, revolve your perception around that. Like if you can find something about your job enjoyable

Starting point is 01:18:25 or something about the chores around the house enjoyable or something about the workout that you're doing enjoyable and focus on that, you're gonna probably wanna do it. I mean, it's a goal, it's a goal setting issue. Almost every time I have something like this with a client and with myself personally, it's a goal setting issue. I'm setting my goal too high, too far.

Starting point is 01:18:47 And nobody, it takes an incredible amount of self-discipline to say, I'm gonna do something like become a millionaire or get down to 3% body fat. That could take a fucking long time. That takes a lot of discipline. If you're somebody who thinks you don't have self-discipline, maybe the reason why you feel that way is because you set a goal that's gonna take some serious consistency and time before you reach it.

Starting point is 01:19:07 Don't set a goal that high. Start off with, I want to eat well for five days. You know, I want to make it to the gym three times this week. Like set really small, obtainable goals. So you're always winning. That I think that's where people have a tough time as they set a big massive goal. I want to lose 50 pounds. And then they start on that journey. Well, that's where people have a tough time as they said a big massive go. I want to lose 50 pounds and then they start on that journey. Well that's a fucking six month to a year long journey and there's and when you get depressed and down in a hard day, whatever, or you see the scale go up for some reason, that really fucks with a lot of people and then it may make them feel

Starting point is 01:19:38 like they don't have self-discipline so they have to quit. But more often than not, it's because you're setting your sights too high. And I know that's because of the messages that we've been given for so long. You know, shoot for the stars, land on the moon. It's like, no, fuck that. Like literally just get out the door. Get head in the right, set your goals, like obtainables so that your crushing goals

Starting point is 01:19:58 week over week over week. And then you won't feel like you're not a self-disciplined person because you only got to discipline yourself for two more meals. You've never done, you know done 15 good meals in a row. When was the last time you set a goal that simple? Like keep track of, I do this with myself all the time. When I get back in the swing, if I fall off track for a little while and fall off the rails

Starting point is 01:20:17 and I'm making poor choices eating wise and I catch myself and I know I haven't strung together two good days of eating in a while and I could say that like wow When was the last time I had two really good days of eating and training? That's the goal now that is even as long and experiences I am I don't set a crazy goal or I need to be I go hey Adam, you know get two good days together two good days And I go let's go for a third. Oh shit. I fucked up. That's okay. I've already set three I've done I've never done three days in the last month and a half of consistency

Starting point is 01:20:46 So I fucked up for a day now. I go back now the new goal is four days I just keep stretching myself a little bit like that and yeah, then then it doesn't feel like You're not self-disciplined because you always end up giving up Well, you're giving up on the huge goal set smaller goals and crush them Yeah, and the the goals that's an excellent point. The goals should be challenging, but they should also be something that you can do. They both have to happen, right?

Starting point is 01:21:12 It's gotta be a goal that you challenge yourself a little bit, otherwise it's not worth anything. It doesn't mean anything to you. It's not really a goal, right? But it needs to be something that you can do, and that may just mean, like Adam said, we'll get up and walk out the door. It may mean have a glass of water today.

Starting point is 01:21:29 It may mean, you know, eat one serving of vegetables or, you know, eat one less cookie. It may mean that stuff, but you know, it's hard to be realistic. However small the degree of change you make is, the further down the path you go, the bigger that change becomes.

Starting point is 01:21:44 If I take two parallel lines and I move one one degree to the right, we travel down those lines for 100 miles, and those two things would be so far apart, you can't even see one from the other one, even though it's only one degree of change. And that's how real change, or real consistent change happens for the long term.

Starting point is 01:22:04 Next question is from Derek McMollan. What is your overall opinion of the YouTube fitness community? Now are they talking about the fitness stars or are they talking about the challenges? The challenges. The community, I think it's all of it, right? It's all of it. I've never seen as many YouTube as Trollland. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:22:21 I think it's because you can maintain... I think it's because you can retain, um, well, I think it a anomaly. Yeah. And there's some people like Ashley and Axel some people out there that are armed. There's some people providing good information. But you know, there's also a whole lot of like stupid shit. There is. He's he's actually pretty good. I like him. Yeah. I like it. I like it. I love him. Yeah. He's actually legit. Yeah. If he's probably the go to page on YouTube, if I want anything

Starting point is 01:22:46 related to fitness that we don't provide already, like he has solid ass content. You could tell he understands movement and exercise. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's really good. A lot of the fitness people or personalities on YouTube are the, do this. It's fucking awesome. Brad, you know, crazy kind of stuff, or you know, check out my crazy hard workout or look at my body. 10,000 calories today, yeah. I think we're watching it. I think we're a part of the evolution right now

Starting point is 01:23:13 of YouTube. It's only been around for how many years now? Has it been 10? YouTube? Yeah. That's a great question. Yeah, I think I would think 10. About 10 years, right?

Starting point is 01:23:23 Not the same time as I thought. And we're just now starting to see like, your guys is kids, right? About the same time as I thought. And we're just now starting to see like your guys' kids, right? Like they don't watch TV, they watch YouTube. Like that wasn't something that we're used to. So a lot of the, why I think it feels like trolls, because there's a lot of 17 year old, 16 year old, 15 year old fucking kids that are talking shit to you. You know, when you, think about your little smart ass when you were 15.

Starting point is 01:23:43 And if you were smarter than the average kid Like what would you love to do get on a page? Come talk to a bunch of older smarter guys about how smarter you are like that's plus it keeps you anonymous So I can I can say something you don't know who I am. Yeah, you know what I mean? And that's that's part of the other reason. So I think I think we'll see that changes as they grow up and It becomes older people that are also utilizing grow up and it becomes older people that are also utilizing YouTube more. Like, I don't know what the demographic breakdown is, but I would assume that it's still dominated by the younger generation as far as the usage of it.

Starting point is 01:24:13 One of the biggest markets on YouTube is for the young, young generation. It's for little kids. If you go on there and watch these videos, if people are opening presents and playing with toys and shit like that, and they're like the dumbest videos. Tens of millions of views. It's brilliant. It's brilliant that they're capturing that audience now because if they continue, if they're smart, and they treat it like a TV channel,

Starting point is 01:24:34 and they evolve it as the kids grow up. You know, and they just have an audience that was originally three, now they're seven, now they're 12. I will say this as much as we're complaining or talking shit about some of the stuff on YouTube I'll tell you this right now. It's awesome. I yeah, I have I Look, I've I was in fitness when where you got your information was magazines That's where you got your information if you want to learn yeah, how to work out and exercise Could you imagine how fast you would evolve as a trainer? Oh my god you too?

Starting point is 01:25:02 No, I know I mean back in the days, this is exactly what you're doing. I'm sorry to cut you off, but I know this is what you're going to say. You literally would, somebody would come in, they would have a condition, gout. Never heard a gout at this time. You know, first client, and I was very straight up client. I'm not familiar with that, but I'll look into it, and I'll get back to you. And that was how I learned. Went back, but then you go find a book, you know, maybe the internet's a doctor client.

Starting point is 01:25:24 Internet's around, so we're searching some things and having to read, but not like YouTube. I mean, YouTube, I can almost guarantee I'm gonna get a really good response to this. Not just that, but instant. And not just that, like exercise technique. Like, when I would look up information in muscle building magazines and fitness magazines,

Starting point is 01:25:40 they weren't breaking down how to do a proper squat, how to do a proper deadlift. There was no correctional exercise, you know, information in there. You had to get that from your certification, that was it, right? You had nowhere to get it, and now I can go on YouTube, and for every shitty video, I can find one that's actually pretty damn fucking good with good information,

Starting point is 01:26:00 good execution, good, you know, a good way of communicating it. I can't imagine, this is why I think the average trainer is better today than they were. Absolutely. When we were training. Absolutely. I meet trainers today who've been training for a couple years.

Starting point is 01:26:13 And they're smarter than the trainers were when I was first started, like the early trainers, my first started, my God, they wouldn't even, they wouldn't fly today at all. Yeah. And it's just the information is so crazy. Nutrition information is so easy now. You know, you could look up a video and figure out how to figure out macros. Now I also think it has

Starting point is 01:26:31 started to divide people and create these camps, which is what I believe we saw as an opportunity when we came into this space because I didn't think by any means we were the smartest and most talented, but it was these people are, everyone has a scarcity mindset or they're creating camps. And that was the one thing that I think we saw like an opportunity that, no, there's a lot to take from a lot of these modalities,

Starting point is 01:26:53 a lot of these messages, because the information is so fast, what ends up happening, you become a really smart trainer, but then you indoctrin yourself with like one modality, one way, one belief, and I started to see that, you know, around the surgeons of CrossFit coming into the space.

Starting point is 01:27:09 I wonder if everybody's that started to get into that. And then all of a sudden it became very religious. And then I started looking at other modalities. And then as the internet, YouTube, everything grew, I think I felt like it started to divide us even more. So yeah, because I mean, mean, there's guys that specialize in certain directions. And whether or not they have a sports science background. And so they address training in this very specific regard. And then nutritionally, I'm coming from this angle.

Starting point is 01:27:40 And this has worked the best with all my clients. So therefore, this is what I profess as the answer. And it's just interesting because I think the consumer is really still driving that mentality because they want sort of the one easy sort of peg that they can fit in. Well, we love community. We love clicks.

Starting point is 01:28:02 Yeah, we've evolved that way. So it's natural. It's also very natural for humans to think that the answer is black and white. Exactly. It's not. Yeah, so it's like, oh, I want to get in shape. You'll kettlebells is the way to do it. That's the best. This is the best way.

Starting point is 01:28:18 And not realizing that there's something to take from all of these modalities. And the best, your best chance at achieving balance and health and longevity in a very real way is to utilize the best of each, you know, I mean, like yoga has got some incredible things that you can pick up from yoga that you're not gonna learn from kettlebell training. Kettlebell training is gonna have some stuff

Starting point is 01:28:42 that you can pick up and learn that you'll never get from powerlifting. Powerlifting, you know, and you just go all the way down the line and the average person is just looking to be fit, healthy, look lean, look really good and they'll get there much faster if they start to implement. You know, it's almost like martial arts.

Starting point is 01:28:59 You know, martial arts went through this crazy revolution when mixed martial arts competitions came out because early on it was style versus style. went through this crazy revolution when mixed martial arts competitions came out because early on it was style versus style. You either did Taekwondo, Karate or Judo or... That's a great point. MMA was the ultimate exposure of like what actually worked. That's it, right?

Starting point is 01:29:16 And how was it evolved? First it turned into, you know, grapplers or one everything and then it was, oh there's some strikers that went, it's the Muay Thai guys and then it turned into, but now what are you finding? They're taking the best from each and turning it into a style without a style, right? Which is far superior. Right.

Starting point is 01:29:33 And I think that's the same thing. That's a great analogy. It applies with fitness and what we're doing. Yeah, you don't see a whole lot of like praying mantis, like flying kicks or anything. No, no, they're taking what works and utilizing it and what you're finding now with fitness, that's the same thing though.

Starting point is 01:29:48 All these fancy moves and this flash and people are understanding now, oh, we don't necessarily, that's not the most effective. Well dude, I'll watch a body builder or a strength athlete do their warm up and it's like mobility movements and stuff. They never did that shit before. They weren't doing those specific type of mobility movements before.

Starting point is 01:30:10 And it's because of the information age. So I mean personally, I think the YouTube fitness community reflects just the fitness community in general. So you can get the crazies, you can get the whatever. But never have I been able to see ever the ability to share such good information. I think we're advancing. I think that just all this access to information now and we're filtering, it's a filtering process.

Starting point is 01:30:32 I think this is happening on all kinds of different levels where the dust will settle and then we're gonna kind of move forward knowing a bit more. The cream will rise to the top. That's what's nice about the way it is structured. I love that it's structured that way. Imagine if it was like networks and there was power and control and We just divide it all over the place again. Yeah, we'd be divided it would be corrupt You wouldn't know what is a good right message where now it's you know, it's like it's designed like Wikipedia right at that

Starting point is 01:30:59 After it's been around long enough the right answer will be there and I I think that's, you gotta be playing the long game if you're in YouTube right now. Look at those statistics right there. This was published in August 4, 2018. 300 hours of video are uploaded to YouTube every single minute. Minute? Every minute. There's 300 hours being uploaded. Think about the amount of information that is being stored and compiled

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