Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 959: Essential Home Gym Equipment, What to do During Long Rest Periods, Why to Skip Decline Presses & MORE

Episode Date: February 2, 2019

In this episode of Quah, sponsored by Organifi (organifi.com/mindpump, code "mindpump" for 20% off), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about essential home equipment for $1,000, why there are never decline presses in MAPS programs, traditional vs sumo deadlifts and how to program mobility during long rest periods between sets. Justin explains his fascination over the mimicking octopus + subconscious human behavior. (3:00) Does the culture feed into a show’s success? The ‘meme’ culture explained. (9:50) The collective mentality and categorizing men into a box. The guys discuss the recent Elliott Hulse post and taking the RIGHT approach. (15:15) Fart facts: Fascinating truths about passing gas + the one time Justin farted over an open flame. (28:35) Do the guys feel guilty about the bad things they have done in the past? (35:25) #Quah question #1 - If you had a budget of $1,000 to build a home gym, what would the essentials be? (42:53) #Quah question #2 - Why are there incline presses in the MAPS programs, but never decline? (54:30) #Quah question #3 – Traditional deadlift stance or sumo? (1:01:50) #Quah question #4 – Do you work on mobility during long rest periods between sets, if so how do you program it? (1:08:53) People Mentioned: Elliott Hulse (@elliotthulse)  Instagram Products Mentioned: PRx Performance   **Code “MINDPUMP” 5% Off plus free MAPS Prime on orders of $500 or more Organifi Mimic Octopus: Master of Disguise Blue Planet II | Netflix Clever as chimps: Astounding footage shows grouper fish and octopus working together to catch prey in new episode of Blue Planet II Sex Education | Netflix Official Site Mind Pump Episode 872: Dr. Warren Farrell- The Boy Crisis Fart Facts: 13 Fascinating Truths About Passing Gas MAPS Fitness Prime | Muscle Adaptation Programming System Mind Pump Free Resources

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And my comment is right there. I almost, Elliot. Freudian slip. Then we talked about some interesting fart facts, just in love that part. Thank you for bringing the science today, Sam. And then we admitted the horrible things that we've done to other people when we were children.

Again, I wish we wouldn't have brought this up. Then we get into the fitness portion of this episode. The first question was, if we had to budget a thousand dollars to build a home gym, what would the essentials be? So we talk about all the things you can buy for under $1,000 put in your home gym and give you the best results with your home workouts.

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Use the code mine pump for 20% off. The next fitness question was, why are there incline presses and flies in our maps programs? But we never put in decline presses. Do we have a personal agenda against the decline or is it just an ineffective exercise? The next question is traditional stance deadlifts or sumo stance deadlifts, easy for me to say, which one is better and why or are they both good? The final question, do you work on mobility

during long rest periods in between sets? So instead of just sitting there and resting, should you do mobility work in between, we give you our advice about that in that part of the episode. And also I'd like to mention that MAPS performance, our functional fitness program, the one that's designed for people who want to move and look like athletes, use those muscles.

It's 50% off. Just go to mapsfitnessproducts.com and use the code green50, GRE and 50 no space for that discount. We need to give Justin an opportunity. There's been something he's been trying to bring up for the last 15 episodes. Kill Oh my God.

I wanna play that prank though, on him where we, just every time he goes to tell the story, we interrupt him. You mean, you mean regular prank? Like every episode? Oh, real good prank. All right, Justin, the floor is yours.

Yeah, no, I wanted to bring up. I watched this, like I am enamored by animals. And this is an animal that everybody talks about octopus being super intelligent. And they were getting into the mimicking octopus. And I was like enamored by this thing. It was this way it makes it look like a rock or look like. Yes. So not only does it change the color of itself to mimic whatever environment it's around, but the texture of it. So it could actually, if it's around a rock,

like it will actually form all these like pits and, just like the rock, but not only that, like it could mimic itself as like one of these sea snakes. And so it looks just like a sea snake, so that way when the predator's there, like they don't wanna hang out around the sea snake, it also has like the ability to, when you cut one of its arms off, I guess.

So the thing about octopus, they're really intelligent because it's dispersed all over their body. So they're brain. They're brain. So their leg can actually distract a predator if it gets bitten off or whatever. It can distract them and try and strangle them on its own. Well, look at that.

Look what it's doing. Yeah. Yeah. No, I've seen this before. Well, it's like one of the coolest animals. I was like, holy shit. Well, first thing I want to know is, what is the plural name of, like if there's more than one octopus,

is it octopusies? Octopus-puss. Is it or is it octopi? Octopi? Octopi? Octopi? What is that? What is that? What a pussy?

Don't look to me for the grammar. I know. It's because I almost want to say, yeah, I don't want to say Octopussis. Cause that sounds, that sounds, it's a gang of Octopi. Now Justin, is this the same one? Have you seen, I think it's on the latest planet earth?

They also are smart enough to hunt with other fish. So there's an octopus, and I don't know if that's the same one, but it will actually use fish as a decoy to fish out other animals that it's... Oh, I've seen that. Yeah, no, I don't think it's the same one. So it'll do, is it'll wait for, because it knows like, okay, this type of fish

or this species is hunting whatever it is that he hunts to, or is it a he a she? It either. It could be either one. There are male female female. Okay, so you mate. So I don't think they have as many genders as humans do.

I wanted to be, I wanted to be, you wanted to be, you wanted to be, you wanted to be binary. You wanted to be politically correct here. I didn't, I didn't. I didn't. I didn't. I didn't. I didn't. Crucified for that, right?

So it'll hide out, like Justin's saying, where it looks like a rock, and then it'll wait for the other fish to kind of like fish out the other fish, and then it'll be just waiting and just whacked in the middle. So what's weird about this is they obviously, because you have your own perception and experience as a human, right? It's very unique. And all animals have their own experience. And think about the senses, like what that must be like for an octopus to be able to

be on something and whatever sense they have mimic it. You know what I'm saying? And their body just morph into what they're on. Well, it's weird is that. It's crazy to me just because, and I've heard that all the time just morph into what they're on. Well, it's weird as that. It's crazy to me, and just because, and I've heard that all the time, why would they think that octopus are more intelligent, or one of the more intelligent

species out there, and it's just like, there's those abilities where you just, it trips me out because think if you had the type of neural connection on your appendages as you do in your brain. Like so you just like everything can problem solve like away from you. Well here's the weird thing, it's not a conscious thing.

You know what I'm saying? Like is it just happening for the octopus? Yeah, it's instinctive. Or are they consciously aware, probably not, obviously humans are the conscious creatures. Well we do, I mean if you ever caught yourself like mimicking the facial expressions of the person you're communicating with, or sometimes even lipping what they're

saying. Sure. Like, you see how babies do smile. They smile. Yeah. So we, I think we have this that we maybe we don't train it because we don't need it for survival, but it's like we have a. Well, that's similar. You know, it's funny about that is when they do studies on men, when men are around men and women, when men are around women that they're attracted to their voice lowers slightly and like down and all and and but it's if you heard them You wouldn't necessarily perceive it but a computer can pick up the lowering of the voice that That's some hot chick. Oh, they were there.. Anyway, and with women, when they're around a man

that they are attracted to, their voice slightly elevates. And it's all subconscious. So you know what makes me, what's funny about this, right? Is what if like your girl, what if they, now now some's gonna make it watch, what if there was an app you can have on your phone, where your girl can just turn it on when you're talking to a chick and

then she'd be like, you like her to like, no, I don't. She's like, you sure about that? Look, the app shows that your voice went down. You're telling. Yeah, you're telling. You, I know Justin was. Were you, were you a sign filled fan? Did you watch a little bit? So I told you guys, I tell you guys this that I'm taking Katrina all the way back through like so that's fun. That's kind of like how we settle down at night right now is we'll watch one or two episodes of Seinfeld. So last night's episode, and I forgot this, it's so old, right? And there's an episode where Elaine's friend

is hitting on Jerry and Jerry's telling her like, hey, your friend, Nancy was totally hitting on me. She's like, what? No, she wasn't, she's married. She would never do that, right? And he's like, I swear she was. Ask her when you're here. So I'm going to call her right now.

So she gets on the phone and she calls. And her husband picks up, but her husband has a woman's voice. And so she just starts, I heard you from a Jerry, this and that talking, and it's the husband's voice. And that happens like multiple times in the episode where this guy has a total woman's voice. And it's hilarious.

He just reminded me of that. That was last night we were watching that episode. She's dying. She loves it. She loves it. Can't believe that she's never been as great writing that. I'm doing the same, but like the office of Courtney and I have gone through the entire office.

We were about caught up to like where they ended. Well, we started watching sex education on Netflix. Good, huh? It's hilarious. Really good. Yeah. It is so, yeah, it's like, it can't, I mean, it's definitely not what real life would be like, because they do shit on there. They're like,

yeah, this would never happen. But it's hilarious the way the writing is, and it's all around sex, obviously. And it's about these kids in the school. When we watch two episodes, his mom's a sex therapist. Yes. And then one of the, and then his, he becomes kind of a sex therapist for the school, and that's how he gets popular and stuff great. So that's yes, it's really really funny So you know, someone was telling me that this is common because I've been bouncing around With between Netflix and Amazon and I didn't really watch that much Or that many series on Amazon But someone was telling me that it's really common for Amazon to run a show for

two or three seasons and then cut it. And I wonder if they're just testing it. Well, so, well, that's a long test. Three up three seasons. Oh, three seasons. Yeah. And so I guess they're all seeking that home run. And I remember watching a, I think it was a TED talk on this. And they talked about the, about the there's like a Majority of shows that are quote unquote good shows that perform well enough and then there's those like one off like sign Fill that just off the charts just for some reason Everybody loves everybody loves it and every every you know platform is is seeking that because that I mean when you get that home run Hit I mean it's something you can carry on for seasons and so I guess it's their notorious for

Starting a season and just looking to see if it's gonna be that home run and even if it's a good show you like it They sometimes cut it and well think about the metrics that they have over the viewing habits of their consumers like you can live not only can you see How fast people are consuming in the sense that, oh, you know, people are binge watching the show. Or this is how much time they're spending on it in a row. Yeah. Those metrics are valuable. So if you see like,

because there's that binge watching quality that you're now able to measure, where you couldn't measure that before. Sometimes I wonder though, because we didn't have the level of metrics that we have now, like when Seinfeld first started, and what was going through my head as I was watching it last night again with Katrina was,

man, this was so much a part of the culture when I was a kid to the point that as I'm rewatching it, I'm remembering I used to bite all this shit. And with my friends and I would say that, like that was what, if you were a cool kid, you had to be able to roll like that. You had to be have, you had to been up and up on the last episode

that just went last week. You're like, you're like, you're exactly, I'd say something like that. Right, and you would have to be able to, you'd have to be able to stay up with it or else you're not cool.

You're not up on what's hot and what's trending. And so sometimes I think the culture feeds into the part of it becoming something greater than it just being a hitch. You know what it is now? Now it's memes. So like bird box, bird box, it's a good point. And created a huge meme culture around it,

where it's all kinds of different things and it's the picture of Sandra Bullock with the blindfold. The fire documentary, that just came out. There's two of them, right? One on Hulu, one on Netflix. And you're starting to see me, and that's creating and spurring on a bunch of memes as well.

Did you see the porn hub on the right? No. Why, you didn't see it? No, what was it? Oh, dude, I can't live you didn't see the porn hub one. I did somebody. So this is what I love about our listeners is they totally get us and they send me stuff as soon as we talk about something.

So it's a picture of jaw roll and Billy and it says millennials will say fire festival was their Vietnam. And it's a picture of the two of them. And they're on a porn hub, things as best friends, brutally fuck entitled millennials for fun. Oh, terrible. Oh, roasted. That's so good, dude.

That's so good. Yeah, the meme culture is now a part of that. It's everywhere. Yeah, a part of that entire thing. But you know, pop culture is driven to American culture for a long time now. It's very influential. It drives attitudes.

You can clearly see the attitudes of Americans, for example, around homosexuality and gay marriage when Will and Grace, when that show really count Ellen and then Will and Grace, the attitudes towards homosexuality really started to change rapidly because you had, you know, nice, funny, great gay people on your TVs, you know, once a week or whatever in millions of households. You hit with the main ones right there, but we're all the other ones, what were the other ones that really catapulted that? Those were the big ones. Yeah, and Frazier. And Frazier.

But Will and Grace was, I mean, because remember when Ellen came out of the closet on her show and then it got canceled shortly afterwards, Will and Grace, they were openly gay and that that was part of the show. And it made, it really changed people's attitudes. Same thing with like, I love Lucy. That was the first televised interracial relationship. You know, because he was Cuban and Cuban, right? Wasn't he Cuban?

Yeah, he was Cuban. She was obviously, you know, white American, whatever. And so that was kind of risking different. Showing people, sleeping in the same bed, that was a big deal at one point. Well, in the real world, when that first came out, like, puck and all that and like, how they, they highlighted people like that didn't, they had all these stereotypes going in. It was almost like they sought out the most polar opposite people they could

and just stuffed them in a house and gave them much alcohol. That became a thing for a long time. Yeah. Now I wonder if pop culture, driving culture, it's, you start to get pushed back sometimes, don't you? What do you mean? You guys feel like that?

If you feel like they're pushing too hard with certain things, people start to get pushed back sometimes, don't you? What do you mean? You guys feel like that? Like, if you feel like they're pushing too hard with certain things, people start to kind of pull back. But I guess the viewership is what dictates that. Well, I don't know about that with, speaking of pop culture, I think, like if they push too hard, you know what I mean? Well, and it starts to like, reek of agenda.

Well, okay, that's different, I'm saying. You different, I'm saying. I don't categorize that as pop culture. You say something like that. And I think about like the post that Elliott Holst just did the other day. And you commented on it is right now the, and we, and we, we had Warren Farrell on here, right, with the boy crisis. Oh, right. And I think that the, that was a really good episode for a lot of people to listen to. Regardless of what side of the fence that you're on that.

And the way we present information isn't, we don't have an agenda. It's like, this is informative. Let's have a great discussion about it. We have opinions. Yeah, we have opinions, but not so strong to where we're not open to listening to either side of the opinions.

And I don't think any of us take a very hard stance on that. And then you see some people, like what you see is going on with Elliot. And I've followed Elliot Hulse for a really long time. And you know, once when we did the podcast with him afterwards, I kind of he kind of fell out of favor for me because he was one of the few people I really didn't care for that much. Just didn't come off very authentic. I felt like when he was on the show, he was present on his. Yeah, he was presenting instead of being real with all of us. But we were early on in the show and that was the first time meeting

So I haven't really I'm not one to judge over that But just kind of my gut instinct on him and now recently what I see he's doing He's taking a he's drawn a line in the sand and I think it's a really dangerous place You make a lot of hard stances. Yeah as of late. It's interesting to watch like because yeah Do you have one recently like like coming out with like a Trump hat and like all this type, like very like politically, like okay, I'm just over here now. Yeah, then there's, there's nothing,

like if you have your opinion and you support a political side, whatever, you know, there's nothing wrong with that. The reason why I commented on his post, because he's been doing a lot of these, be proud to be a man, manpower, you know, kind of stuff. And I get why he's doing that There's a there's a political climate right now that is

blaming men and masculinity and male-ness on You know pretty much everything. It's it's kind of becoming a thing And so I get the the pushback, but the problem is The way he was pushing back and the way a lot of people are pushing back is by utilizing the same tactics. So for example, if somebody on the other side, an extremist on the other side says, men are to blame for violence because most violent crimes are committed by men, so men are just violent.

That's very collectivizing. It completely disregards the individual. It's looking at them and putting them all in a group and getting them a group identity. You're playing the same game then. You're playing the same game. If you're on the other side saying no, men are great, we're awesome, be proud to be a man. First of all, when people are proud, I understand this. I'm proud to be, you know, I'll say I'm a tie and I'm proud to be a tie and I'm proud to be white and proud to be black and proud to be gay. First of all, if you're proud to be a biological male,

that's kind of silly because you didn't do anything. You were born. So I don't understand. I'm made it. Yeah, it's weird that you're proud to be something that you did nothing to get. You were born that way. Now, if you want to be proud for things that you've done

and for your character, well, that's completely different. Now, why do I have a problem with the whole proud of something that you've done nothing for? Because then that opens a door for people to blame you for shit you haven't done either. So if you're proud to be a man because men are so great, even though you've done nothing, then that also means that you can also be blamed

for bad shit men have done, even though just cause you're a man. Right. That's playing the same game and that's the, that's the problem. The same issue I had with the Gillette commercial. You know, it's like okay, now you're gonna categorize men as having all these bad behaviors. playing the same game and that's the problem. As a same issue I had with the Gillette commercial. You know, it's like, okay, now you're gonna categorize men as having all these bad behaviors.

Like, it's a fuck out of here. I've never done any of that stuff. Or none of my friends, I wouldn't associate myself with douchebags like that. Well, in the defense of Gillette and in the defense of Elliot Holes, you know, when we live in this world of, you know, algorithms and likes and traffic and comments that drive

viewership and eyes, it's a pretty smart tactic and strategy to get attention initially. But it's a very dangerous game that you're playing. You're heading gasoline to the fire. Yeah, you you are and you you are You were drawing a line in the sand and you better hope That you have enough people to cross over with you that you can sustain because you're most certainly gonna turn off A large portion of your audience the other thing I really don't like and I think the thing that bothers me the most is It and I never really noticed it until we got into the space and we've met a lot of these prolific fitness figures. And some of them when they get to a point where they've reached millions of viewership

whether it be podcasting or YouTube or Instagram, a lot of them allow their egos to inflate. And sometimes I look at their movements as like this cult-like thing that they're creating. And I just, because I think my parents drug me from church to church to church to denomination and denomination and every year I was being told that this is the right way, this is the right way. this is the right way. I think I just have a disdain for that so much

that when I meet somebody that calls himself a leader and then I see the way they're leading their people, I just don't like it at all. When I hear someone say, men are supposed to be like this and women are supposed to be like this. Like I get where they're trying, where they're coming from, but at the same time,

here's the reality. You are supposed to be whatever you wanna be. It's your life. Now we can look generally at things. We can look generally at things and I can look generally at men and say, okay, generally, here's an easy one. No one's gonna debate this.

Generally speaking, men are physically stronger than women, okay, that's true. So now you've got some dude who's like, I'm a man, that means I'm stronger than a woman, and then he gets his ass kicked by Ronda Rousey. Like that's what I mean by individuals. There are outliers. Yeah, that's what I mean by individual variants.

And that's a very clear one, that's an easy one to see. And I know what's happening right now, what's happening is it's a pushback. You're having all these stuff being blamed on men and men are bad, especially white Christian men. And in fact, to the point where it's totally fine if you were to write a media piece and say white men are to blame for this,

no one's gonna care, nobody's gonna give you that, you're not gonna get kicked off any platform. If you were to say that about anybody else, it would be considered racist or sexist. And so what's happening is they're getting pushback on the other side as an extreme type of pushback. And you're getting these two extremes. One is not right, that doesn't make the other one right.

You see what I'm saying? And so his approach, I don't think it's the right approach. I think the right approach is more like, look, collectivization is wrong. People are individuals. There are these general things about men and these general things about women that are true when we look at the whole. People should be free to do what they want.

Let's respect each other. And if you're going to be consistent with your ideology in the sense that, again, I don't like collectivization is the language of Marxist. It's the language of racist. It's the language of racist. It's the language of tyrants and extreme feminists and misogynists. Collectivization is wrong, always wrong, because people are individuals. They all are individuals.

You should give people, you give people the, and when people identify with their group, that's when shit gets dangerous. Well, you should explain to the audience that doesn't understand what collectivist means. Because I think that was, I think you chose a very calculated and intelligent post to comment on. I, me, I'm a little more emotional and reactive, and I was ready to lay into them when he commented under your post, I think earlier in the week,

when we posted a picture of the three of us when we were doing the four-sigmatic mask. The officials? Yeah, and he wrote on a women. And my instinct from that is like, that's like it's an insult to be a woman. Yeah, right. So right away, I got defensive and I wanted to say something

and it's your page, so I didn't come on in I would ever, I mean, I'm not, I'm not easily offended. So, you know, you could call me whatever joke around. I like that kind of stuff sometimes. And, you know, I'm not going to call the kettle black because I can be, you know, when I joke around with friends, I could be abrasive and, you know, I don't like. Yeah, but that wasn't that wasn't it. I can't always. That was a shot across the bow. That wasn't a, that wasn't a friendly job. Sure. That wasn't a friendly jab. I talk shit about you two all day long. We talk shit with each other.

You certainly do. But when you come into my sandbox and you start kicking sand in my face and we're not friends, that's not a good, that's not a smart play at all in the first play. So I was already riled about that. And then that's what caused me to go look at, oh, what's this guy been posting about for the last couple of years was funny be different. Right. Look at this. Look at this cult leader right now who he's talking shit. Probably not a good. Probably not a good move, kid. No, I don't. But it's getting him. It's getting him followers and just getting a lot of

attention. So and you know for it and he's identifying with it. A lot of times you see these guys that identify with that, like that, manpower. Yes, and I get that. I get some of that. Yeah, but what is that scream to you? Oh, it screams insecurity, poor relationship with your father, or you didn't have a dad,

or, and I don't know what his history is with that. So I'm not talking about him in particular. I'm just saying, when you see that, a lot of times it's you're just times you're screaming out your own insecurity. The most secure men in my experience are they don't need to go out and boast about it. A secure man is a guy who, like when Adam painted his toenails back when he was younger,

he'd go to the pool and he'd get attention from girls, because girls are attracted to confidence. And it wasn't because he's trying to be a girl, or any of that, you're just confident, you can get away with it. That's what real confidence is. That's being yourself. That's exactly how I felt when he commented

on the face mask that we did, is that we're all secure enough that we can have fun and play with something like that. We are sponsored by ForSigmatic. They have a face mask out. We're not going to hire some girl to put it on her just because it's a face mask. It's like, fuck it, we'll put it on. We'll try the product.

We'll talk about the product. And we'll have fun with it. You know what I'm saying? Because we're secure. And so for another man to come on there and throw a jab at that, that to me just screams you're the insecure one that you feel the need that you have to say that. But I don't have any problem with male bonding and guys doing things that they consider

to be guy things, anything like that. But, and I, there's a lot start there. And I agree with some of the points he's making. So I want to make that clear. I think I know what he's trying to say. It's just the way he's saying it is. I don't think it's right. It's not.

You have to be careful when you start promoting. And even if it feels right to you, like we're us over here. Be proud to be this one thing that you're a part of because it's a group that automatically separates you from everyone else. You start to adopt the characteristics of the group and you start to lose your identity.

And again, this is the language of movements that has caused lots of problems in human history. This is the language of Marxist. When you're a communist, it is communist party above all else. And this is how they killed people. This is how they imprisoned people. And again, this is racist. We are white or we are black or we are Mexican.

The group mind is a dangerous one. Or we are men or we are Mexican. The group mind is a dangerous soul. Or we are men or we are women. Women power, we're the only, it's like, okay, everybody relax. Well, if you have it for people, if you haven't read the post, I think you responded incredibly, I think it caused a bunch of conversation,

which I think was really good that people did. Now, do you think because of that post you did, because of your response to the conversations that happened, do you think he's in a backup a little bit? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no of likes on it. So, no, no, I mean, I liked, I liked when we do stuff like that. I think going and talking shit or calling a name is weak. I think having a conversation though about a very touchy third rail topic right now is a very healthy thing for people to, and I think it, I think his post, I think his intentions with, I think they were good.

I think what he's saying, though, and the way he's going about it is not ideal. And I think you pointed that out very well and then you created a very good conversation. I don't know when I was just checking your fellow peers. You know, it's letting them know we're watching and you know, like, I know there's what you're trying to say, but I would hope that you'd say it a different way.

I'd settle my impumped Southlux. Yeah, I do. I remember as it did.'d say it a different way. I'd settle my impumped Southlux. Yeah, I'd settle a little flex. I remember as a kid. It was a my dad used to tell me that, like be proud of something you did, you know. We would, look, I can definitely find myself identifying with my heritage, because I grew up in this

culturally Italian family. But my dad would tell me, like, be proud of what you do, you know what I mean? So, to say I'm proud to be a man, because I was born a man, that's weird. What the fuck, you didn't do anything, you know what I mean? So to say I'm proud to be a man because I was born a man. It's weird. You didn't do anything. You were born. What are you proud of?

That's such a good point. You know what I'm saying? Anyway, this change subject, this subject. I got a poster I think Justin would. Please, please. Yeah, he'll enjoy this one. I didn't get up at all. So this was actually in one of the science,

like people that I follow on Facebook, science pages. And it's the title of it is, these are fart facts. Oh, yeah. Yeah, you got my attention. Fascinating fart facts. Great transition. So yeah, isn't that great?

So it talks about like why fart smell in the first place, is because of the gases from the bacteria. We all knew this. The worst combination of gases in terms of smells. So check this out. The average far, I don't know this, was made up of 59% nitrogen, 21% hydrogen,

9% carbon dioxide, 7% methane, and 4% oxygen. It's that methane, right? That's the one that's the terminor of the stench. It's the hydrogen sulfide. What? Yeah, so you have a lot of that. Right. It's fucking guys. But here's the hydrogen sulfide. What? Yeah, so you have a lot of that. Right.

It's fucking guys. It's just killing. But here's the crazy one. It's a misconception. So this, what do we consume that converts into that? Well, lots of, you know, fiber, fibers from vegetables and stuff can make that happen. And if you have food and tolerance. Luckily, farts are real.

Yes. So it says, this is interesting. This guy who apparently studies flatulence and has done for decades, his name is Michael Levin. What a job, right? Did you go to college for that? Hey, mom. I have no idea.

Dude, I'm just really into Farts. Yeah, I don't remember that being an option inside of home. Do you know what they do in these studies? What? So I've actually, where did I see this? It was a documentary I saw once. I thought it was hilarious. People will stand, they're standing,

and they're standing in their underwear or naked, and there's a researcher standing behind them. Up to their ass, and the person will fart, they'll smell, and then they'll mark down. That's like some of the research. No, it is how much you pay that goes. I'm serious. You're a fart-smilling technician.

That will be part of this other stuff. We do have a cool name for it, like those wine connoisseur people, you know? You know it'd be great. They're a fart-smilling nation. That will be part of this other stuff. We do have a cool name for it like those wine connoisseur people, you know, you know, be great. They're a super smeller. Yeah. Well, it would be great as it's milk-er. You know, because I think they send you like a thing right? Oh, would you like to be a part of the study that we're doing? 50 dollars? You're like, oh, that sounds great. I get paid a hundred bucks. Yeah, I'm from.

And then you find out what you have to do. Yes, smell fart. I'm getting some 300 pound guys. I don't know. Lasting you the face. There's some weirdos out there. There might be some only to pay. Shards.

Oh. Well, there's a lot of volume in that one. Dude, there's that down. There's weird people out there. I wouldn't be surprised if people paid it, dude. No, that's a fetish. That's a, there's people that have fart fetishes. That want us, that want us.

Adam just got on the porn train. No, yeah, yeah. Thanks for selling out. There's a lot of crazy stuff out there, you guys. I shared this. Yeah, dude, we know. Yeah Thanks for selling a crazy stuff after you guys I Share this and confidentiality over here. He just put me on front street right now I'm trying to kick up my porn hub. How funny is that you guys talk about reducing your addiction to porn? I'm like trying to I'm being introduced to it trying to feel wow look at this it knows me

It only take it only takes, it only takes, it's for members of you. Tony, it only takes about four weeks and that shit figures you out real good. You gotta learn how to, you race your tracks, dude. Yeah, dude. You don't have to clear history. All this. Clear, clear, clear.

But anyway, so according to this expert on flatulence, women's farts smell worse than men's. I didn't knew it. Yeah, really. Yes, so it says, and. Yeah, really? Yes. So it says, and he says it's because. Just vacation. He says he thinks it's because they have a higher,

a higher, hydrogen, hydrogen sulfide content due to a more plant-based diet because women tend to eat more vegetables and stuff. There goes the myths that they don't fart. Yeah, well, of course they do. Yeah, I know. But they, I'm always been told that. Yeah, but they, but they smell,

you know what they smell bad? They hold it in for way too long. Farts are technically flammable. I don't see, that's not a myth. How you can light a fart on fire? I've never seen it happen though. You haven't? No.

I've been able to do it once. No way. No you didn't. Over and open flame, dude. Try it. You, but you have to have like a really, like a substantial amount. You can't just, you know, dude, try it. You were the God. But you have to have like a really, like a substantial amount. You can't just, you know, like,

like, weekly get it out. You have to really bust it out. Like, like, like, are you serious? And what did it do? Just, it just, so paint the picture. Where was this and how did this work? Right. Okay, so, of course, this is in college

and we just get bored and do stuff. Like, I shot an Airsoft gun on my friend's nuts. What? What? Just because he was like, It was the era of jackass. Yeah, it was the jackass. Like, were they bare nuts?

He was like, oh, this hurts. You know, and then he's like, that hurts, hurts sucks so bad. I'm like, I'm gonna shoot you in the nut. Like, and then I convince them to do it. Wait, was he bare nut or was he bare nut? So he was like point blank. He bare nut it. Wait, wait, he bare nut it. It was the worst. I was like, I, and you took, you can't believe it. You put the

, I just didn't think he would go through with it. I was like a test. And he did. Is he, is this one ball pat? Is that what happened? That would make a lot of sense. But no, it's not one ball pass. Not one ball pat. No, it's my other friend Ed. I just threw you under the bus head. Oh, wow. But yeah, he just wanted you to.

Yeah, no, so we did one. So you know those lighters, the long lighters, the ones that barbecue ones. Barbecue ones. Yeah. So then it was like the next thing was like, well, let's see. Let's see if we can get an open flame to kind of shoot out. And so because I had shown them the trick with powdered cream.

So you throw powdered cream over an open flame and it goes, I didn't know that either. Oh, do you, that one is. This has to be the most educational podcast I've done with you. That one burned my eyebrows off. So you throw the powder cream. Yeah. Wow.

Okay. Powder cream. When you need powder cream, when you say, creamer, creamer, like powder cream? When you say? Creamer. Oh, it's powder. You dump it over the top of an open flame. It is like the most crazy fireball you get from that.

What? Yeah, I had no idea. You know what I have done is science. I know I get in trouble for this because I know it's not good, right? If you ever melted a milk, a milk, a plastic milk carton before. No. Oh, so. What? You just all collapse. He's up carton before? No. Oh. What?

You just all collapse. He's up in the car. No, no. So if you light a plastic milk carton, it'll go, suu, suu, suu, it makes this crazy sound every drip as the plastic drips. And I know we're gonna get crucified for that. No way.

Oh, here's people lighting their forts on fire. Here you go. Watch. Yeah, they usually throw their legs up over their head. Oh shit. That way. So what out. Yeah, watch. Yeah. Yeah, they usually throw their legs up over their head. Oh, shit. That way. So what if, oh, yeah, the worst part, those, I've seen somebody do that and it sucked back in. Well, I was just going to say, yeah, it'll burn your inside. Kids, a rectal area.

Okay. So, so you laid back, you lit, you, you, you, you got a blast and then, uh, cut it off. And did you see the flame or did your friends? Cause you, it probably friends this. I didn't see anything. Doug, show a milk jug, melt a milk jug. Milk jug, can I say that three times fast? Mother milk jug. Actually, melt a milk jug.

Yo, melt a milk jug. You make exactly. No, no, no, no, no. That's tough. You guys are dangerous kids, man. Oh, we did all kinds of crazy stuff. We did the, the, we did all kinds of crazy. We did them the Alka Celts are a thing with the soda x you know, it's funny is we we we we we

We talked so much shit about the generation coming up now and like oh, you know, they're getting stuck on their computers Yeah, we just didn't have record. Yeah, yeah, we were over here lighting our ass cheeks on fire. There's no YouTube Melting plastic in the atmosphere I just checked some fire. There's no YouTube, Melting plastic in the atmosphere. Oh, it's a blow up. You could make a case where we're doing just a stupid shit, maybe more.

Where did you get the cherry bombs from? Chinatown, really. And you just blow up the anhyl, would it spring ants everywhere? So yeah, and so I, and this is even worse because I'm surprisingly certainly forest fire. But like I would take a little gasoline trail and then light it and just go boom and then they would just fly everywhere like all over me just yeah

on fire. That's you guys are bad kids. Yeah, we used to use a magnifying glass and catch them on fire. Oh, that's that's that's that's that's typical. That's that's classic. That's classic. So you have to teach yourself. You want to know what you want to like teach yourself.

All the legs off of like every insect. Yeah, I should. I should. That's classic. You have to teach yourself. You want to know what you want to like teach yourself all the legs off of like every insect. Yeah. I should. You guys want to know what I did that I still to this day feel so bad about like the worst. I'm such a bad brother. I still hurts my heart to even say it. My sister when she was real young,

she loved all animals and creatures. She was like, what's that cartoon Cinderella with the, you know, animals singing next year? Oh, right. And so there's no way. There's no way. snow white there you go so my I know my Disney he knows the princess is very well yes I do so my my my sister she was little and she would she would go out and collect insects and so for some reason she got like 10 snails put them in a shoe box and they were her babies. Oh God throw salt all of these are my babies

I have a bunch of babies look at my babies. I'm like you're so stupid. Who cares? You know, I'm a little older than her right now. I mean, I'm being a dick at this point So mean my these are my babies and show she'd walk around with her little thing or whatever and feed them leaves and stuff And then so then she went inside and I don't remember what she did She did something to make it make me irritated so I'm like oh, I'm gonna pour salt on them Oh, God and Don't ask me how I knew that dude. I killed her her snail babies and she cried for I don't know a few hours and I felt Till this day telling it my heart right now is breaking in half It's like what a terrible human so evil. Yeah, who does that who kills someone's

Child to a little boy. Well you so evil. Who kills someone's pet. He's my baby. He's a child to a little boy. Well, you're nine or seven. I was like 16. No, I was just like, you're like, I was 27. All right. No, I have no really an ass. I was probably like eight, you know, she was four. I mean, you guys ever do anything like that

when you're kids to this day that you talk about it and you feel terrible? No, my through acorns at a girl. That's terrible. Jesus guy. I know. I apologize for that. I did some mean shit to through acorns at a girl. That's terrible. Jesus guy, I know, I apologize. I did some mean shit to Cassie, I feel bad. But you know what though I see what a tough, hard ass she is today.

And I feel like I contribute to it. It was all part of the training. Yeah, it was all part of the training. I feel like my sister. Kids are brutal. My sister's like a rock now. You know what I'm saying? She's not, she don't let little shit bother her whatsoever.

And so I think that a lot of that was all the shit that I did there. The second worst proving grounds. The second worst thing that I did was to my brother where my parents were gone and I was watching them. And he was, my brother would let me do whatever I want to him. It was fun.

I'd practice wrestling moves on him and he would laugh. And so we had watched home alone and, you know, the kid where he, you know, he puts his hands on his face and he screams or whatever what's his name, a colicolkin. And so I said, after. Yeah, so I'm like, oh, it's gonna be funny. I said, here, put your hands on your face and I duct taped his hands to his head.

So I wrapped it all around so his hands were stuck to his face and then he was running around chasing me and he couldn't take my. But we used, see how funny it is though? But I used actual gray duct tape, like the strong stuff. That's shitting coming out of his hair. So I had to give him a haircut, I had to cut his hair. So I think what happens as a young boy, you see something on TV or you hear about something at school.

And it's not so much like a sexist thing, like a boy picking on a little girl. It's just, it's my, she just happens to be my younger sibling. If she was a boy, she would have been picked on the same. It was just, it's that I learned something at school, you know,

or I learned something watching a movie like Home Alone and who, I'm like, fuck, who do I have to do this on? You know what I'm saying? So she automatically just gets the torture. I remember one that I feel really guilty about because it's like physically mean, like the acorn thing, right? That's just physically mean.

It's not even that funny, what you said. That's got a funny, you taped duct tape his hands and said like you probably wouldn't have thought that was another one, but I took a serving. I took a quarter, we lived up in the country and we had one of those wood burning stoves the one the black iron ones and you know, we didn't we didn't have a heater And so you just ran that thing all day long. So it was just hotter than sure Exactly what you do and so I got into my sister's

Change jar, you know that she was saving and I stole one of her quarters and then I put it on the on there I got it hot as fuck And then I swiped it off the stove. And then told her, I took some of your quarters, and then she comes running in to come up and then she picks it up. And it was like a delayed reaction. And she had the bald eagle in her fucking hand afterwards.

And so that was like really bad. You know, I feel bad just saying it right now. Yeah, that's awful. I don't know where I saw that. I don't know what drove me to do that. And my sister and I were very close. So it wasn't like a, I hate her, I want to hurt her. It doesn't, it doesn't go, it doesn't process.

You think it's gonna be funny. Exactly. Yeah, in my head, I'm like, it's gonna burn her. She's gonna scream, she's gonna freak out. Everything's gonna be okay. Not, it's like in a really hurt her. And she's gonna be running her, Neus pour him on it later on.

Like, he's crying to my mom. Didn't know it was to go that far. Yeah, I have one, too. I thought I actually told this on a podcast, like one of our very first podcasts, I think a long time ago, about my next or neighbor who was younger. And I actually had an accomplice with this. My best friend at the time was this girl who was the same age as me. And we were just playing or whatever.

And so anytime like a, you know, the same age as me. And we were just playing or whatever. And so anytime like the neighbor kid would always try and play with us and everything. And we were just told dext everybody. And so he was like trying to play with us. What are you guys doing? I had some brownies and we're eating brownies. Can I get us some brownies from you? I'm like, oh yeah, no problem.

And then I'm like laughing and joking with my friend. Oh yeah, let's do this. I put dog shit in between the brownie and then gave it back to him. He's like, I'll have you. Like, yeah. Oh my god. He took a bite and literally like spit it out and ran home crying. And we're like, oh, fucking eight dog shit.

Are you kidding me? That's so fun. I should be like, I should have done a little bit of time for that That's messed up. You know what though. We're still laughing about it right now I feel bad sorry, Barrett you know, oh man. What a dick. I got you got a test of worms afterwards Yeah, I'm hospitalized like no wonder like my neighbors hated me. Oh, we're mean bad humans This quas brought to you by Organify. For those days you fall short on getting your organic veggies or whole food nutrition,

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You can work out, because you gotta think about this, you know, think about the time it takes people to drive to the gym and then drive home, change when they're at the gym, and then of course dealing with the crowds that are at gyms. That's actually a pretty big, I don't realize how big of a deterrent that was, but when you talk to people, it's a pretty large deterrent, it's a pretty big deterrent to people working out,

especially the crowds and all that stuff. So convenience, costing, cleanliness, or the three C's, the three most common things that make someone decide if they're gonna go to a gym or not. Absolutely, no. And so here in my home gym. Child care.

And this is my home gym. Of course, see. Yeah, that's what there you go. This is what I have in my gym. I have a rack so that I could do squats and you know, because a good rack will allow you to bench off of it, squat off of it, overhead press off of it. Any kind of a barbell movement where you need to have the barbell rack. A good rack will allow you to do plus a good rack

will have safeties on it. Because if you work out alone, you want to have the safeties so that you can, if you train it at a very high intensity, you don't have fear that you'll get stuck under the bar, which, you know, that's kind of a real fear that some people have. An adjustable bench would be the next thing to have,

something that can, you know, adjust up to incline so you could do all your different variations of presses. Now you can get away with just that. You can get away with just a cage, a barbell with weights and an adjustable bench. Well, the first thing I think about when I hear somebody that has like a thousand dollar build your at home gym budget

is PRX and what they offer. Because if you, I'm sure this person has a $1,000 saved and they're like, okay, I wanna spend $1,000, what's the best equipment to have, I would spend less than that and make monthly payments and get whatever you want. You'll stretch it out. Yeah, stretch it out over the next year

and make payments towards. And their racks are so, the thing I like about the PRX, because a squat rack will take up a certain amount of space and some people don't have that kind of space. Yeah. The PRX rack folds in and out. Yeah, so it goes flat. It's super stoked on the one I got.

And what's great about it too is, yeah, not just that it's like out of the way and you can actually save that room still. If you don't have a garage, you know, like I don't have a garage, I don't have a garage, so that was a very important thing was to be able to also still have it function as a room. But just having that helped because that's like the foundation of most all workouts for me. I have to have a squat rack, have to have the ability to squat bench press overhead press,

and then deadlift. So one thing I had to add was a, actually stole the kettlebell platform from in here and then put it there, which was great. So now I can deadlift heavy and I'm not worried about my floors as much. So that was an addition, but being able to rack all the weights and everything on the wall keeps everything out of the way.

But now I have the ability through PRX2 add in certain features. I have a landmine attachment that I just set up with that. You can start looking at more accessories, the further you go into it. You have options. You start with just your meat and potatoes, with the squat rack, the weights hanging on the wall,

those main things, and then you can look at getting dumbbells or whatever later, or just what the essentials are that your workout requires. For most of my workout history, so I have been working out since I was 14, all I've worked out with were a rack, barbell dumbbells, and adjustable bench.

For most of my workout history, so I started out that way as a kid, although we didn't were a rack, barbell, dumbbells, and adjustable bench. For most of my workout history, so I started out that way as a kid, although we didn't have a rack, we just had the old school bench, you know, the old school bench that you would get, you could buy it at the store and you just put your barbell on it. So I didn't have anything to do squats with,

but then later on, I managed gyms, I worked out in gyms, and then for a lot of my career, I owned my own personal training studio, and when I opened my studio, it wasn't a massive facility because it was only for personal training. And I thought to myself, like, I only want to get the stuff that I think is essential. I think most machines are especially for the average person largely a waste of money and time. And they take up a lot of space. My personal training studio was barbells, dumbbells, adjustable bench, squat rack, and it had one cable machine,

kind of like a, what's that called, the universal, not universal, but free motion, free motion, thank you. And that was it. And me and all the other trainers trained all of our clients in there and we had a very successful business doing so. My, and now my workouts are on my garage, and it's just Barbell, dumbbell, you know, barbells, dumbbells,

adjustable bench and squat rack, and that's it. I don't use anything else. I think machines are fun, they can be great, but if you have those things, you can do everything. Anything you wanna do. If you wanna do calves, just get yourself a block, which you can build yourself with two by fours. You can hit every body part from hamstrings, quads, glutes, back, chest, shoulders, biceps,

triceps. I mean, you name it. You have a lot of variety that you could do with those types of equipment. Now, Justin, when you bought PRX, did you make payments on it or did you pay outright? I did. Yeah. So I wanted to go through that process to kind of see what that looked like. And so, yeah, I did a payment process, so I'll spend like, it was like under 50 bucks

a month, something like that. And it was basically, so how does, are there, are there options? There's different tiers, yeah. Okay, so there's options and terms and then how long is the term is that a year, two years, three years? Is it? Yeah. So it depends on how much you put up front and then yeah, you

can set up. So for me, I just set up a year's worth. So yeah, do you have like curl bar and stuff like that? Yeah, I've been adding a so I added a curl bar recently. Obviously, I have some kettlebells. Um, I also, I don't, I didn't get the one that has the pull-up bar because that one actually is a lot taller. So, I made a mention of that, you know, before we talked about it. It's a lot higher in my ceilings a bit lower. But

I have another part of the room. I have hanging some Olympic rings, so I get my pull ups and dips with that. But I also just purchased a dip attachment to the rack. So it's just cool. Do they have a lot of options? They also have one that's like for lap pull downs. So it has a cable that you can actually attach to a weight and then pull from the rack.

So it puts the plates on there? Yeah. Which I thought was a cool thing I might look into. Now at some point Adam Are you ever gonna look into you've talked about Flooding with having stuff at home. No, if I didn't have the Camaro in the garage I would so that's right now. That's what would take up my my gym space I don't have really room in the in the house So we have three rooms in our house. One of them is a guest room. One of them is a sneaker room. And then one of them is our master bedroom. So I really don't have room. You don't want to do anything with a sneaker room? My sneaker room.

No, I go, I flirt with the back and forth. I mean, so the audience knows, I mean, I literally live eight minutes away. So I don't have to get on a freeway to this place. I'm eight minutes from our studio. So I live the close, oh no, actually Doug lives closer. Doug's like a blocker too, which is probably why Doug and I haven't invested in the major gym home yet,

is because we're so close to here that I can come back. Now, I also don't have kids. So if I had kids, that might change the whole game for me, because I could totally get how that could be a pain in the ass. Like, you guys don't wanna come back here after you've left. After you've left work, you're not trying to come back here.

You're probably spending time with your kids and they tend to probably dictate your evenings. And so I could see having a garage gym or ad home gym being something. So I definitely would knock it because I could for sure see myself. Here's the other thing. Getting it later. Here's the speaking of kids. You reminded me of this. Here's the other thing that's good about having a home gym. If you're use it, by the way, you got to use it, is you start to develop a if you're used it, by the way, you got to use it, is you start to develop a culture in your home around exercise.

That's kind of what happened to me. My weight set, when I was 14, wasn't mine, it was my dad's. And he would go out and lift weights. And that's what spurred the idea on for me. And that, I think, is an important thing. So if you're in, now, to be clear, you can create this and not have a home gym.

You can bring your kids to the gym, have them watch you exercise otherwise and be active. Much more difficult. But it is, I have my gym and when I'm working out out there, the kids know I'm out there. I leave the door open, they see me doing it. They didn't even have to be in there. But it's part of their growing up.

You see what I'm saying? Like what you grow up with an impact on them for sure. It doesn't, and whatever you grow up with as a kid is what you kind of get used to. And I would like my kids to get used to fitness and exercise being kind of, they're around it and they're part of it. And I feel like it'll make it more likely

that they make it a part of their life as they get older and they get their own place as well. Justin, with your home gym, like what does your routine look like now? Is it, because I know when you work out at a gym, you got to close, drive there, whatever. You masturbate first before you get on. Yeah, I make sure that I get all that accomplished at a time. Yeah.

And then I leave the door open. I'll just, what's so convenient is I can go in there whenever I want. Like, I feel inspired or go to do it. But I've actually been lifting quite a bit heavier as of late because now I have a platform down there. So for me, I used to do a pre-workout with coffee and make sure I get spiked with that. I had a conversation recently because I had mentioned

before with the organify that I had one of my friends kind of trying the red juice as a pre workout. And then actually from somebody DMing me, they were like, oh, but have you tried that with a combination of pure? And so they do this like ratio of the red juice in a little bit of pure and he was like, dude, this has been killer,

especially for my heavy lifting days. So I just started trying it and I had a really awesome deadlifting session. So because what I'll do with the purers, I'll take the purer, and then, you know, because I have the garage gym, right? So I'll drink pure,

and then I'll walk in there, do my mobility work, wait for it to kick in, then do my workout. Yeah, well, I usually walk, I usually do clean things around the house and I'm busy, are you?

Are you busy? Are you mixing the pure with the red juice? Are you drinking it and then drinking the other one? Mixing them. Oh, you are. Together. Oh, what's the taste of it? I haven't done that.

I can't say that it's not like my favorite taste, but it's not like I'm doing this for performance. I just want to try it out. Yeah, no, I get it. And the pure is not like, it's kind of conflicting taste. It's a little bit. Yeah, it's a little, but it's not, it's not as far as pure as not as out of all the products, out of all the juices that I mild play.

Very mild play. That's what I was searching for. Thank you. Like it's not pungent. It doesn't have a very strong flavor to it. So I could see it mixing. That's an interesting combo. Yeah, I thought it was interesting

because you know, getting that sort of energy surge, but also like the clarity aspect of it with the new traffic. I thought that might be interesting going into the workout. And it was, it was, it definitely had some benefit to it. Next question is from Drey Drave 44. Why are there incline presses and flies and maps programs, but never decline? That's, that's true. No, it's a very, I don't think we've ever programmed a decline press.

Have we? Well, it's probably because how we, we, I don't want to know. It's actually just talk about this. Interesting. I'm not a big fan of the decline. None of us are. Otherwise, we would have had a big reaction. Obviously. I don't remember if we had a major conversation.

I don't even think, I think how funny is this? I think that, you know, there's certain things that we all probably feel about, actually, that doesn't even need to be said. Like, for example example there's no Hip-ed doctors and abductors in any of our you know exercises for the machine ones, right? I mean, no machines. We wouldn't program in that if any of us if we were trying to work any of those muscles we would find a way to incorporate it in some sort of a more of a functional movement that we all agree And I think that the the decline bench is kind of like that.

Like if I'm gonna do something like that, I'm probably gonna do dips instead. Superior, yeah. I much rather have someone do dips than a decline. A decline press, the old school reason of using a decline press was to hit the lower pecs. Now, from a bodybuilding standpoint, it's very rare that you need to hit the lower pecs Now, from a body building standpoint, it's very rare that you need to hit the lower packs.

That's number one. So from an aesthetic standpoint, right? So if you look at how your chest develops, we need to do regular old bench press. Your lower chest usually develops pretty damn well with the bench press. In fact, if you just do a bench press, you may run the risk of developing,

and this is again from aesthetics, and if you're building lots of muscles, so don't freak out. But for people who are building lots of muscle and you only do bench press, you may develop that kind of lower droopy looking peck look, and inclines become much more aesthetic. You do the inclines, you'll give that nice full upper chest look. And so decline presses, why would you throw more at the lower packs when the bench press, you know, arguably does a great job of that? Now, from a functional standpoint, it's just that downward pressing motion. In our opinion, the dip is going to be superior to that. The setup for a decline, the way it works on the body, I've never

really gotten great benefits from it. It's a short range of motion. You don't get that much more carryover from what the flat bench is already doing for you. You're at greater risk because the angle, a lot of people push with their shoulders and can lead to injury. Yeah, it's just, it's an ovoonky, it doesn't feel like natural. It's an overrated move that most people like to do because they can do more weight. Yeah, total eagle lift. Yeah, that's what it is. Yeah, and almost every person that I've ever trained, when I'm programming any chest off, that somebody who's wanting to sculpt and develop a chest, right?

Because the only reason why you would even consider doing a decline is if you're somebody who is looking to sculpt your chest, right? I almost see it and I know like even I would value this even higher, but as like if I'm just doing squats and then I'm doing leg press instead of squats, you know, like, but I actually would value leg press over decline press even more. Oh, I see what you're saying. You're comparing it to like, yeah'm gonna compare the value of a squat. I wouldn't even give it that much credit because we've programmed the leg press.

I see a lot of value in the leg press, but I think somebody needs to do more incline work than anything else. When I help somebody like that, trying to build their chest, most people neglect the incline. Now there's always exceptions to the rule. So maybe if you're listening and you're somebody who's like,

I've been hitting incline consisting of for a long time, but 90% maybe more of the people that I've trained, they don't have as developed of an upper chest. And the reason, okay, is the opposite reason why everybody likes to do decline, is because incline's fucking hard. And the reason, okay, is the opposite reason why everybody likes to do decline is because in-clin's fucking hard. And you're weaker normally. So, you know, typical guys, when we lift,

if it's a lift that we're not very good at, instead of doing it more like we should, we tend to avoid it and we gravitate towards the things that we're stronger or better at. So, we tend to already naturally go flat and decline or want to do decline because we feel stronger. But most people should spend more time trying to build their upper chest and doing incline and trying to catch your incline strength up to your flat bench.

And that will serve you far more when it comes to developing a check. I see more value in a decline fly than I do in a decline, decline press with a barbell. Declan press with barbells such as short range of motion, decline fly than I do in a decline press with a barbell. Declined press with barbells, such a short range of motion. Declined fly, you can get a really good wide range of motion, get a good stretch across the chest. But even then, I'd rather do a cable crossover. I'd rather do a cable fly.

It's the same from up to down motion that you're getting from a decline, but it also feels better. You're also, so if you set up properly on a bench press, on a flat bench press, you actually created decline angle already. When you retract the scapula, yes, when you pull the shoulder blades back,

you tuck them in your back pockets, right? And you lift the chest up, you create a natural decline angle already on the flat bench. You're just increasing that more or you're putting that person on a decline flat bench that's allowing them to flatten their back and then they end up pushing some with their shoulders. So yeah, I'm just not a fan of the movement. I don't see a lot of benefit even talking to the bodybuilder bikini community that is

using it to sculpt. Every bikini, every men's physique, every bodybuilder I ever trained, never did I have to program or decline bench. It was always having to give them more, more incline work. And then if I wasn't to do anything that targeted the lower chest dips for sure. And dips just have so much, it's a great, a range of motion. It's a much more functional movement. It's I think it's safer because of the way you're angled. I think it's a just a better superior.

And if you're going to do a decline press, dumbbells, the barbell is so limited with that. It's such a short range of motion. Grab a pair of dumbbells. Now you can come down, get a great range of motion. And here's the other thing I hate about decline pressing. But wait, it makes my head feel I don't know about you guys, but laying upside down, the pressure my head is on the... Yeah, pressure doesn't feel like you're gonna pop. And I think that there's a lot of exercises

that didn't make it into maps programs. Yeah. And it doesn't mean that any of us think it's better, it's wrong. There's just a hierarchy. Right, exactly. There's a hierarchy of movements. And if we were to put decline bench in any of the maps programs, that means we'd have to take something else out of there. And all the exercises that we put in all the programs,

we agree. And we thought that we spent days on days debating whether this was the movement. Like, is there a better movement that can go right here? We didn't just throw a bunch of random exercises. And it was like, we put them in, and then we would debate over each one. Like, is this where we're placing this exercise? Is this the most ideal thing that you would do with a majority of your clients right here? And so it just didn't make the cut. It's just like the Smith machine didn't.

Doesn't mean that none of us have never used either one of those things. They get used, I've used them before plenty of times. It's just like Justin said, in the hierarchy, just didn't make it, it didn't make the cut as a great movement. Next up is from Rob the Flem, traditional deadlift stance

or Sumo. This is a great, both. Yeah, yeah, this is a great question because how I would have answered this years ago was different than how I answered it. Before I bet you would say, do what's comfortable for you. Why would have said they're interchangeable?

Oh, it doesn't matter. They're both deadlifts. Just pick your favorite. Or how your leverage provides best. And the reason why I would have said that is because, and this is PowerLiftings fault, PowerLifting, not that they tried to do this, but in PowerLifting competition,

you can pick either a traditional stance or sumo stance for your deadlift. So whichever one you can lift either a traditional stance or sumo stance for your deadlift. So whichever one you can lift more weight at, that's your stance and it doesn't matter which one you pick, we're all competing against each other and that's a deadlift. And so I would have said, it doesn't matter. Pick one, do the one you're good at, they're both deadlifts. Now, I understand that they're totally different exercises.

Yeah. They're totally different. They're not the same. In fact, just because they're both called a deadlift doesn't mean that they're both the same. There's some similarities. There's a lot of posture you're chaining, the bars in front of your body, but one, your legs are really wide, your hips get lower in the beginning of it. Most activation is very, very different. The other one, your stance is more narrow, hands outside your legs. You gotta do them both if you want,

the gain, the benefits of both. So what I typically recommend to people who love to deadlift, and you're gonna deadlift the way you like to deadlift, probably more often than not, do that one, and then every once in a while, throw in a cycle of the opposite or the other style of deadlift.

This is how I got my years ago, when I was able to pull 600 pounds, And then every once in a while, throwing a cycle of the opposite or the other style of deadlift. I did, this is how I got my, you know, years ago when I got my, when I was able to pull 600 pounds, which is the most I've ever pulled, one of the ways I got my, my, my way up to that was I had to switch to Sumo for a while. I had, I don't remember where I got stuck. I think I got stuck at like 580 or 575. And so I went Sumo for a long time. And when I went Sumo, I wasn't as strong

because it wasn't something I had practiced. So I had to get good at sumo. And because I got good at sumo and then went back to the traditional, I was, and I strengthened my body a little bit different, I had some carryover and I was able to pay it more away. And that speaks to how they, they're so similar yet very different, right?

So I think no matter what you're going to deadlift, whether it be conventional or sumo, intermittently putting that in there, you're going to get some carryover for it, especially if you stick with it and you allow yourself to progress. Like, I think the first time that I, I think, I think when I was up peaking at conventional deadlifting and I was getting up in the mid five hundred And I started to go over to sumo. I mean I had to go Significantly. I think it was a pound. Oh way less than that. I think it was like 200 and something 300 pounds because Just felt awkward and

Instead of realizing oh wow, I can't even lift 50% of this and bailing on it and saying I'm done with it's not for me. My body doesn't work for my body. I don't want to do it. I'm not as strong. I look like a whoosh in the gym when I can normally pull over 500. No, I stuck with it and I allowed myself to push all the way up until I and I think I when I got my sumo's I got up into the 400.

But it's and you've touched this before, so what's what when you learn when you do an exercise and you realize you suck at it and it Sal, what's, when you learn, when you do an exercise and you realize you suck at it and it's really challenging, especially when you've been lifting for many years, like all of us have, instead of running away from those things, those are the best movements to chase after and to do more of because those new begins, exactly, you get those new begins. It's all new again. It's like, my body's not used to this. This is foreign. And so I'm burning more calories. I'm building more muscle, my body is changing, and that's where the real carryover

that you talk about comes from, it doesn't come from, oh, every once in a while, do a set, or everyone's about do some sumo dads because you do conventional time, it's like, no, stick with sumo for a while then, if you suck at it, and let yourself progress, so stay there for weeks on weeks, and get good at it, and once you've gotten really good at it, then yourself progress, so stay there for weeks on weeks and get good at it

and once you've gotten really good at it, then you can go back to your conventional and then you'll notice the carry over. That's the beauty of different stances and different grips. It really does provide a whole different sequence, and firing sequence that happens and has to take place. This is a whole other skill you gotta acquire. And once you actually can establish a new skill,

especially when it's like that closely related to the other exercise, it's definitely gonna carry over. And so that way, you'll see that benefiting the whole. Once you start to turn your feet in different angles and directions, you're gonna be able to generate force from each one of those different angles.

All of that is gonna contribute to the whole. It reminds me of when I really started to front squat more. So I feel the same way about front squatting and back squatting. I hate to front squat. Why? Because I can't do but 50% of the weight that I can do on a back squat. And I remember like really, and this was when we were doing mine pumped together. I mean, I rarely ever front squat it.

And I was like, you know what? I really want to see how much I can push this front squat. And I remember when I started to get my front squat over 300 pounds, that's when I started hitting PRs on my back squat. But it's hard. It's the mental game of you suck at it, therefore you should.

Not because, you know, just because you suck at it, doesn't mean you should stay away from it. Oh, this move isn't for me. It's like, no, that's great. Especially if you're experienced lifting, you've been lifting for a long time. You're seeking those things. It's hard to find a movement that I can't do comparable

to another that's similar. If I can, if I'm really, really weak, there's lots of opportunity for growth and change. I actually learned how to deadlift Sumo style. That was the first way I deadlifted. Oh, really? Yeah, I learned from power lifters and that's just the way they taught me, and so that's

the way I pulled, and as a kid, I would pull every once in a while, and I never really programmed it into my workout, but I was naturally strong at them, so every once in a while I'd do them because I could lift a lot of weight. And I'd get my, you know, I think I was able to pull almost 400 pounds in a high school, then right out of high school around 400 pounds. Then I switched to traditional, and traditional just suits my body better, and then my deadlift pounds went up.

But I remember that I had learned sumo, so I'd always throw them in every once in a while. And then the other deadlift that we're not touching on is a trap bar deadlift, which a trap bar deadlift is much easier to learn and arguably more functional than either deadlift because it doesn't require so much technique and distribute a lot of that, you know, throughout the anterior and posterior. I would say it's more of an athlete deadlift. If I was training an athlete, I'd probably get them at a better at a track bar deadlift than

anything else. Well, that's a no-brainer. Just even the setup alone, Oh, absolutely. Well, that's a no brainer. Just even the set up alone, basketball player, football player, any athletic and think of your stance when you explode out of a hole or you jump up, looks like a trap bar, it does not look like a conventional. You will never, there's no sport that you'll play where you get in a sumo stance and have to come out of a hole like that. It just doesn't emulate anything that you would normally do where a trap bar deadlift is very

similar to where your hands would be by your side right before you go up for a rebound or a knock on a ball. Next question is from Brienne Wyatt 43. Do you work on mobility during long rest periods between sets? If so, how do you program it? That's a great way to, first of all, when I train clients, is what we did between sets many times. If I, while I was training a client, if I'm working on correcting some kind of a recruitment

pattern issue, if I see them moving in particular way, we would do the exercise set, and then in between, we would do mobility work to make their body move better for the next set. So they were resting, it wasn't intense. This isn't, this is the important thing about mobility work. Mobility work should not be a workout.

Now that doesn't mean you're not moving and you're not burning calories and sometimes sweating. It just means you don't want to approach mobility work like you're training your body because the second you start to fatigue, form breaks down and you lose the benefit of the mobility work. And that's really how it all breaks down.

Your form is good. When you have an issue with form, it doesn't happen when you're not tired. It usually breaks down when you start to get tired and fatigue. That's when you revert back to your old stuff. So in between sets, you don't want to work out. You're trying to rest. Light mobility work to encourage better recruitment patterns. That's an important point to bring old stuff. So in between sets, you don't want to work out. You're trying to rest. Light mobility work to encourage better recruitment patterns. That's an important point to bring up though, because this used to irritate the shit out

of me. And because of the way people were applying it, where it was intense, and they were trying to make it more of, I need to be busy and keep, like, a plyometric thing. Yeah, like keep doing something, or I'm going to add rubber bands in between while I'm resting. Like, you're not resting, bro. Yeah. So in terms of it, it acting as a restorative mechanism or it's something that like, literally, I'm trying to condition and teach, you know, certain joints to promote better movement

going back into the lift. Like, I'm all for that. Well, that's how you program it. It should complement the exercise you're doing. For example, not take away from. I do this all the that. Well, that's how you program it. It should complement the exercise you're doing. For example, not take away from I do this all the time. So this is how I squat right now. I did a lot of work on my ankle mobility and my hip mobility to get to the point where I can ask to grasp squat now. And I am now it's awesome. It's been a year and a half almost two years of Now it's awesome, it's been a year and a half, almost two years of religious work on the mobility and spending countless hours of working towards this.

And now it's a beautiful thing. Now I can just get down and pretty much do a quick little warm up and I feel very comfortable in that astigrass position where I'm not now. So I've now kind of moved my way at my body. I'm now really working on my thoracic mobility. So the ability for me to take my shoulders and pull my shoulders back. So when I go into a deep squat,

I still have a hard time. You can see my wrist, I have a broken wrist, I have a broken wrist because I don't have the thoracic mobility to pull my shoulder blades all the way back and keep my chest tight when I'm deep. Now when you say broken wrist, you mean your wrist is bending back? Yes. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. So the term, so anybody who has a really good eye for mechanics will see that and know that they'll look at the wrist. And I know that that person lacks the shoulder mobility to hold the bar correctly in that. So it's, I mean, we're getting very critical in picking my squad apart, but it's a fact that's where I'm at right now. I don't have a perfect squad. It's much better than what it was a year and a half ago.

This is an area that I'm trying to address, how I address that. Aside from all the other priming and mobility work that I'm trying to do, when I squat, I go over and I do our zone one test on the wall between every set. So, and our zone one test is me focusing on bringing my head back into that neutral position, pulling my shoulder blades back, and then being

able to kind of tuck my tailbone in our maps prime. And so I'll do five second holds, and I'll do that for five reps, and then I'll come back to the squat, and I'll do that. And it makes a world of a difference. I can feel the way I hold the bar. I feel better and better. So, and when I was working on my ankle mobility, it used to be the combat stretch in between every squat. So, the first step, and this is why we created Maps Prime, and this shame was plugged, whatever,

but this is why we did this was, for you to take the compass at home, take the test, find out all the areas that you fail and use the compass to allow it to tell you, okay, Adam, you failed zone one and you failed zone three. Okay, well, here's the mobility and corrective exercises that you need to be doing. Okay, beautiful. Now I have that in my tool belt. And now I know what exercises, when I go to do something,

where there's going to be a breakdown, okay? If zone one, in Maps Prime, is the, you know, upper cross, this rounding of the shoulders, forward and the forward head, that's what I'm talking about. If that's my problem, and in our program,

it tells you specific exercises you should do for that. I'm going to do those exercises between, or do those mobility moves between exercises where that breaks down in. It doesn't make sense, but it wouldn't be as advantageous for me to do that doing leg extensions, right? If I were to be doing leg extensions and then going over and doing zone one test,

it's not gonna hurt me, it's still good for me. You still get some benefit, but you're not benefiting the exercise. Right, and why I like to do this and why I like to program this way is it feels good to get the immediate feedback on the work that you just put in. If you go do a zone one test,

and then you go, Now we're talking about performance. Right. And you go do a zone one test, and then you go do a leg extension. You're not gonna feel the improvement on the movement because they're disconnected from each other. But if you're doing a barbell back squat or a barbell is on my back that requires good shoulder mobility

and I'm working on my shoulder mobility in between sets, I can actually measure the progress. Oh shit, wow, when I do that, I feel better, I feel better and it's very encouraging to keep me going. That is what kept me going on my squat mobility and how I got to where I'm at today. Now that also being said, you do need to give your body time to do nothing also.

And so the way you would typically work this is, let's say, you know, like Adam did a really hard heavy set of squats, then he does his priming in between. Then he's probably gonna give himself a good 20, 30 seconds of nothing, get into a set. Now, why is that important? Because you do wanna have a period of time where you're doing nothing to get your body to completely replenish its energy stores, and then you can maximize the strength effect from the workout.

So, and I wanna make that a point because I think what Justin said earlier is very important. People tend to move in between sets, they'll say it's mobility or whatever. In reality, they just don't want to rest. They want to keep working and turn their weight workout into a cardio session, which then you're not going to get any of the benefits of the resistance training. You'll get some cardio, in which case you don't need weights for that. You can go get on a machine and do your cardio there. With that look, go to mindpumpfree.com

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