Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 971: Why Some People Can't Grow Calves, the Pros & Cons of Staying Low Carb, How to Train the Central Nervous System & MORE

Episode Date: February 20, 2019

In this episode of Quah, sponsored by Organifi (organifi.com/mindpump, code "mindpump" for 20% off), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about why calves are so difficult to grow for some pe...ople, how training the CNS differs from training muscle groups, the pros & cons of adding calories via reverse dieting but staying low carb and what to do when someone claims a squat is not functional. How to determine how much life insurance is enough for your loved ones in an unexpected tragedy, the future & MORE. (5:14) Is your CBD really concentrated? The importance of vetting your sources and how the guys use it. (11:30) Sal and Adam recap their talk at Red Dot Fitness: How to build your online presence on social media through new media. (20:57) Your newest little league coach, Justin Andrews. How will he control the chaos ahead? Plus, at what age is it appropriate for parents to fight their kid’s battles. (27:40) Do single men smell and look different from partnered men? A new study says. (41:27) How Catrina now has ‘spidey’ senses being pregnant. (43:17) #Quah question #1 - Why the calves are so difficult to grow? (49:32) #Quah question #2 – How does training the CNS differ from training muscle groups? (1:02:11) #Quah question #3 – What are the pros & cons of adding calories via reverse dieting but staying low carb? (1:13:00) #Quah question #4 – How do you explain to someone that claims a squat is not functional? (1:19:44) People Mentioned: Andy Frisella (@andyfrisella)  Instagram Dr Gabrielle Lyon, DO (@drgabriellelyon)  Instagram Products Mentioned: February Promotion: MAPS Performance is ½ off!! **Code “GREEN50” at checkout** Health IQ   **Free Quote** Ned   ** Code "mindpump" at checkout for 15% off first purchase** Red Dot Fitness BRAND NEW INFLUENCER: Be a Superstar in the New Era of Social Media, with Andy Frisella - MFCEO285 The Most Influential Men and Women on Twitter 2018 Do Single Men Smell and Look Different to Partnered Men? Smoothie Box  **Get $20 OFF your first 3 boxes** Mind Pump Episode 967: Dr. Gabrielle Lyon 3 BEST Secrets - How To Get BIGGER Calves (AVOID MISTAKES!) – Mind Pump TV Human Garage Mind Pump Episode 628: The Human Garage: Tuning Up the Body with Garry Lineham Mind Pump Free Resources

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Starting point is 00:00:00 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. In this extra special episode of Mind Pump, look for the first 40 minutes, we don't talk a whole lot about fitness, but we do have a lot of fun doing our introductory conversation. We start out by talking about how to determine how much life insurance Adam may need. Now that he's having a baby, oh, coming on board here.
Starting point is 00:00:33 Now, Health IQ provides life insurance for fit and healthy people and they are one of our sponsors. So here's what you do, go to healthicu.com, forward slash mind pump, and take their health quiz and get a free quote See what you qualify for then we talked about how the hemp oil market works How a lot of them are bunk and why you want your hemp oil company to provide you with real third-party lab analysis Like Ned Ned is the company that we work with, and they make, in our opinion, the best full spectrum hempoil you can find on the market.
Starting point is 00:01:10 We also got you a discount. If you go to Hello Ned, H-E-L-L-O-N-E-D, dot com, forward slash mine pump, you'll get 15% off your first purchase. Don't go bunk yo. Then we talked about Adam and I's talk at Red Dot Fitness, great personal training gym, actually one of our favorite
Starting point is 00:01:28 personal training gyms here in the Bay Area. And we talked to a lot of trainers there about building a social media business. Adam brought up a Forbes article that talked about the most influential person on Twitter. You'll never guess who it was. We were all kind of shocked. Justin talked about coaching his son's little league
Starting point is 00:01:45 Team he thinks they're gonna go undefeated all season long I don't know about that that we talked about how parents Intervene a little too much when their kids have trouble and we told some personal stories there calm down I brought up the study on single men and how they smell believe not, women can tell if men are single or taken just based off of their smell. Yeah, they can smell the sadness. Yeah, like, oh, that's it. And then Adam talked about Katrina's pregnant heightened sense of smell.
Starting point is 00:02:19 Then we get into the fitness questions. The first question was, why are calves so difficult to grow? I feel like that question was directed to Adam and I because we have our own personal relationship with calf training. Justin has the beautiful calves. Yeah, like yours bears. Adam said I had cancels. They're same. But they're big. The second question was, we talk about central nervous system versus muscles. How does training your central nervous system differ from training your muscles? The third question, one of the pros and cons
Starting point is 00:02:54 of adding in calories to speed up your metabolism and doing so low carb fashion or doing so with carbs, is there a better option? Which one do we like better? And the final question, somebody at this person's gym told him that a squat is not functional. So we kind of explain why this person is an idiot and why we are right. The squat is extremely. Listen to us.
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Starting point is 00:04:49 Alaskan Alex for Facebook. We have Abraham Maximo Chavez Connor Jane J. Kuhnsler and Michaela Marie. All of you are winners. And the name I just read to iTunes at mind pump media.com Send your shirt size your shipping address as well as your Instagram handle and we'll get that shirt right out to you Doug, I have a serious question ask you. Yeah, look at his rash and make sure because I already told him he's gonna talk about It's not a lot of bumps. That is not what I need you to look at Doug What that means last week we week we talked about health IQ. And I announced that Maximus is coming. And now I seriously would be looking into doing the health IQ.
Starting point is 00:05:36 And so I joked around about not wanting to leave Katrina so much money that she'd be motivated to kill me. So she starts just making you like pancakes and waffles or something. Right, right. So her special tea, I was half joking, but there is some sort like, how do I determine how much money I should legitimately leave her
Starting point is 00:05:57 and my child if that were ever to, having forbid that happens, but you know, how do people recommend that? Like, right. So first off, I would suggest that you'd have to have an awful lot of money and have to do some nasty things for somebody who want you to get knocked off, right?
Starting point is 00:06:12 Yeah. Well, I plan to have a lot of money. Well, there you go. What I'm saying is, no, what I'm saying is a very large life insurance policy. So. I would do it for 150 grand, but nothing less than that. Well, get her through a year. Yeah, 140, I don't think so. policy. So I would do it for 150 grand, but nothing less.
Starting point is 00:06:30 Get her through a year. 140. I don't think so. So the way you determine it is you've got to think about what would happen if you were to pass away. Okay. What would happen to Katrina? What would happen to your child? Right. And what would they lose from a financial standpoint? So you would take, okay, my salary or what I make a year is X amount and then from there I would go what multiply that by 18 years or what I mean what what are your thoughts on that? Yeah, I would say that would be a reasonable thing to do. Okay, so the way I would look at it is you don't want your family to suffer a major A major change of lifestyle, right? So. That's why I'm thinking, okay.
Starting point is 00:07:07 Cause it so depends, right? How much are what their lifestyle is to begin with? You see what I'm saying? Well, no, their lifestyle is what we have right now, right? Right. Exactly. Right. It allows Katrina and I to live the lifestyle we are. I know what that dollar amount is.
Starting point is 00:07:18 I know how much she makes. I know how much I make. I know how much of that I'm actually contributing to making sure of that. So I guess the logical thing would be to X that by 18 because the kid will be... Well, you also have to think about the future here too. So now, let's say you get yourself a nice house, you got a large mortgage, all of a sudden you're not around, that income is gone.
Starting point is 00:07:38 How's that mortgage can be covered? You don't have to sell it. Right. What's going to happen? But you could also consider, would this money give them the ability to pay off some debt? Would it give them the ability to invest to set themselves up? Well, you're thinking the way that I want to be careful about. Like I'm not trying to make her come out, bro. She's not trying. I'm not trying to make her rich. I'm going to die. Like you're like, let's factor in so
Starting point is 00:08:02 she can invest like a good quarter million in stocks. And she's like, whoa dude, like that thing is she's like, well, let's see here. I could be a fucking multi-millionaire fat and past it. I don't know about that. No, you're good. But it is interesting because I remember when I got mine with Doug years ago, I had to think about like, and the way I thought about it was, okay, what's the minimum to cover the emergency period? Because it's, I mean, the reality is
Starting point is 00:08:26 like if something happened to you, your family would be devastated and it probably would take at least a couple years for people just to recover from that blow of devastation. And so you would at least, at the very minimum, in my opinion, would want to be to cover the cost and if this person wants to grieve for a year or two, are they able to do so?
Starting point is 00:08:47 That's my, I was my thinking, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, the bare minimum you want to avoid financial stress. Well, they get to pay out all at once. Isn't that how it works or do I have that option too? You have an option, how it's distributed. Oh, see, I like that. Cause I would like, you know, you, I would mind setting her up with a trickle,
Starting point is 00:09:02 $50 million, $100 million, kind of if she has to like, well, it's $300 million. You have to actually qualify for that. Okay, so how does that work? You know, the insurance company's gonna look at what your financial situation is right now. And that's how they're gonna determine
Starting point is 00:09:16 whether you qualify for a certain amount of money or not. Probably because if you're some dude that's making 50 grand a year and you all of a sudden wanna to apply for $100 million, they're like, what's gonna happen? No, they're gonna definitely say no to this. Yeah, what's gonna happen? Of course, because he can't even make that over 10 years.
Starting point is 00:09:30 But if it's amount of money that I can make in 10 years, I would think that I would qualify for that. Right, yeah, $10 million policy is a very, very large policy. 10 million would be considered that. Yes. Uh-huh. So to qualify for that, you'd have to be making a pretty good half million to a million dollars a year. Okay.
Starting point is 00:09:48 In order to qualify for that type of thing. What's the most common amount people get half a million or a million? Oh, a million then I would assume. Yeah, I really don't know as far as term insurance with the average of B because it's such a wide range of people. So somebody making 50, 75,000 dollars a year, they're probably looking at a wide range of people. So somebody making $50,000, $75,000 a year, they're probably looking at a quarter million dollar policy. Somebody making a quarter million dollars a year, a bare minimum, a million, two million,
Starting point is 00:10:13 even three million dollar policy. You know, it really depends on your income. Interesting. The point is you being one of the major breadwinners of the family if you're gone, that's a huge cost to your family. It sounds like it would be a really smart strategy, if you're an entrepreneur to also time this
Starting point is 00:10:31 after a good year that you just had, right? Oh, absolutely. Like that would be a smart strategy. If you're going for a very large policy. Right, like let's say if I, I would have been fucked to actually if I tried to do this when my pump first started the first year, like where we make hardly no money, right?
Starting point is 00:10:45 Right. You'd be hard pressed to get, I don't know what you made, but say you're making $50, $75,000 a year, you'd be very hard pressed to, you know, get much over a million dollar policy. Okay. So that's, that's good to know also, like if you're somebody who's already considered doing this. This is good information because I think people think, oh, half a million dollars, that's a lot of money or 250,000 dollars That's a lot of money and then you you figure it out and you're like well actually that'll help your family only for this amount or or maybe
Starting point is 00:11:11 That's what you want to do. You just want to cover the emergency stuff right right? You know because you don't want to have to pay I mean, I apologize I know it sounds like a really long drug out commercial for the listeners and so that but I really am curious and interested in this because this is something that I will be doing and I I don't know what is the right strategy as far as how much. Crazy. So just changing subjects here. So I'm getting messages left and right. And we called this out a while ago, you know, when CBD started to come out into the news
Starting point is 00:11:39 and it's funny. We had this exact conversation at your house, Adam, when we first met to discuss starting Mind Pump, and we talked about, you know, when we were, it was a four-hour conversation, but one of the topics was emerging aspects of the market, what we thought was going to get huge. And one of the things that we talked about was how we thought CBD at some point would make it into the fitness space, and then they were going to throw it on everything and tell you it was a miracle cure. And, you know, there's throw it on everything and tell you it was a miracle cure
Starting point is 00:12:05 And you know, there's definitely benefits to it, but it's no it's not a miracle cure And of course they're gonna throw it on fat burners and stimulant supplements and pre-workouts and all that stuff So I'm getting all these people who are sending me these hemp oil based kind of supplements and products that are promising Fat loss a muscle gain and balancing out your hormones. So silly. And now here's the problem with all of that is,
Starting point is 00:12:28 part of my problem is the crazy claims. CBD does have some pretty remarkable effects in the body, but there is no such thing as a miracle cure, but here's the part that really irritates me, is that there have been several independent studies done now on some of these hemp oil products, and they find very, very little and sometimes no cannabinoids in these products.
Starting point is 00:12:53 So either the oil isn't real because there's nobody really regulating this market. It's just all market regulated. So what people are doing is they're jumping into the bandwagon because they see that everybody's like, oh shit I want you know cannabinoids Hempe is legal so everybody's like let's do hemp a lot of people are providing hemp oil It's not even hemp oil yeah, or if they do when you ask for a lab analysis
Starting point is 00:13:16 You don't get one so people are like I don't notice any results or I don't feel anything or I'm not it's it's bonk and said well your hemp oil maybe just fucking oil or may may have no out of now does does does net actually provide an analysis net has uh... they provide independent laboratory analysis of their batches and you can see clearly the concentration of cb CBC, CBG, the, you know, even the trace amounts of THC, CBDV. I mean, you can see, and of course, they can test it
Starting point is 00:13:53 for pesticides and all that other stuff. And you want that when you're taking a hemp oil product because hemp oil by itself does have some nice fatty acid profiles and stuff like that. But when you're taking a dropper full of hemp oil, you're not deriving benefit from the little bit of healthy fatty acids. What you want are the cannabinoids, the the active constituents that act on your cannabinoid, you know, system in your body. And you want to be able to see, like, does this, is this really concentrated? Does it have efficacious doses of what I'm looking for?
Starting point is 00:14:30 And that's net does that. Their tested scores are available in their website, right? You click and actually, like, look at like some of the results that they've got. You can go on there and you can ask them to send it to you. They also give you terpene profiles. So I don't know of any hemp oil company that even provides.
Starting point is 00:14:46 And turpines are what give cannabis and hemp and other plants their smell. So like one turpine, I think it's called limonel, for example, is a turpine that gives lemon and lime, it's sent. But turpines don't just provide a scent, they also have effects on the body and they think that terpenes Are one of the main reasons why certain strains Effect people certain ways. It's not just the cannabinoids, but it's also the terpenes
Starting point is 00:15:14 And so they're actually providing These lab analysis of all these different things and this is why when people do head the you know Take our advice and use Ned. They're like, oh, I feel now I feel it. Have you guys seen how many of these fitness influencers are now wrapping brands? I mean, it's crazy. I think I've seen at least 20, 30 different brands that are out there. You mean, I know. It's just the new, it's the new, FAD.
Starting point is 00:15:42 Oh, it's interesting, too. I just saw the FDA is really starting to get involved in cracking down on a lot of like false claims, because like lots of new tropics and people are like going beyond what they're really providing. They're trying to say that they're basically the answer and the cure for a lot of these like diseases and things. And they're going like way outside
Starting point is 00:16:01 of what they're actually supposed to be talking about. We talked about it long before we were even sponsored by Ned and here's the thing like there was a high demand of people that were asking questions around it and I remember us having this conversation. It's like, listen, if we're going to work with a company, one, we're going to make sure we're going to vet it the shit out of them, which we did forever by the time we finally actually brought them on as a sponsor. And it's like, we have it there for those that are in need of it
Starting point is 00:16:26 and that want it. There you go, there's that company. But by no means have you ever heard any of us talking about like it being like, oh, you gotta have this or this is the magic sauce. Yeah, dude, it's just like, when there's so many other big rocks that you should be taking care of,
Starting point is 00:16:39 like you taking some hemp oil at the end of the night, like that's not fucking, that's not making a world of a difference. No, and a good example of that is cannabinoids in particular, canabodile, which is CBD, has anziolytic properties in a lot of people. So anziolytic are the anti-anxiety,
Starting point is 00:16:59 kind of feel calm and relaxed. It's not a sedative, although it's high doses, higher than you'll get with hemp oil, except maybe if you drink the bottle, some people can get a sedative effect, but it's got enziolytic effect. So if you're somebody who has high anxiety, but you're eating shitty, you're not getting good sleep and you're going through a divorce, is it going to solve your anxiety issues? It might take the edge off a little bit, but you got big things you want to take care of.
Starting point is 00:17:25 So this is, okay, there's like two ways I like to, I use it a lot, but when I do use it, so I just use it the other day, I showed it on my story that I was using. That's, whenever you see something pop in my story, that's about the cadence I use shit. So if you don't see me fucking post in something every single day,
Starting point is 00:17:40 I don't use those things every single day. But we had that talk over at Red Dot. Red Dot. Red Dot. And I took two little droppers of that. Why? Because I get hiked up a little bit before a talk like that. And I want to come in as calm and as relaxed as I can. And it does.
Starting point is 00:17:54 It just kind of barely takes the edge off. I don't feel high because you don't have anything like that from it, but it definitely kind of settles me down a little bit. I use it for me. I've always used CBD. It's not even before we worked with Ned. I would have to find.
Starting point is 00:18:11 We used to do it all the time. You used to bring it. Like we used to talk about how sour would bring us a little, you know, we have our charcoal that you would bring. You would have our CBD. You would hand each one of us a little. You would use CBD, Thienine, and then I would drink coffee with it.
Starting point is 00:18:23 All those amazing combo. Yeah, so I used CBD initially. I would drink coffee with it. All of those amazing combo. Yeah, so I used CBD initially. I would use high CBD cannabis. So this is before you could find good quality hemp oil extracts that had at least an efficacious dose of CBD. Back then it was impossible to find. And if you found it, you'd have to take an insane amount
Starting point is 00:18:43 because it was just so diluted. So I would go to cannabis route and I had a medical marijuana card. This is before it became legalized in California. And I would use strains of cannabis that were very, very high in CBD and had very little to know THC. And one such strain, there were two that was cantonic and harlequin. And every once in a while, I could find it where it would be like one or two percent THC and you know 15 percent CBD. So it's like barely any THC mostly CBD. And the reason why I use those back in those days was this is when I was dealing with a lot of autoimmune issues and mind
Starting point is 00:19:19 express themselves through my gut. So I get gut issues. And what I found was the regular use of themselves through my gut. So I get gut issues. And what I found was the regular use of cannabinoids through those means would really help with the symptoms. And I've gone into the sciences why you know that the cannabinoid system is a it helps modulate your immune system. So if your immune system is overactive it tends to bring it down. If it's underactive it tends to bring it up. It's kind of like a it's kind of like a light dimmer switch. So like if your light is too bright, the dimmer will go down a little bit. If your light is too dark, it brings up a little bit.
Starting point is 00:19:48 And that's how cannabinoids seem to work in the body. And I stayed away from THC because I wasn't trying to get high. And that's how I always used it. So there's different ways to use these things, but by no means is it a... The other way I use it is if I smoke like a high THC strain, I'll throw some in it. That's something that you kind of gave to me was trying to stick to the one to one ratio
Starting point is 00:20:11 and mitigate like sort of the paranoia and those types of effects. Yeah, it's the paranoia. And then there was one study that I read that showed that when people used THC with CBD, they reduced the short term memory loss effects that you get from THC. By the way, you know what else does that? When you're something weird, they've done studies with cannabis and ibuprofen. So when people use high doses of cannabis,
Starting point is 00:20:35 they get this short-term memory kind of loss. We all know that, right? Where you start to forget things because you do have inflammation- Is that mean it's inflammation-based? It may be, it may be, but they're not quite sure. So I need to look up more studies on this because I don't, I mean, taking a worse drug to mitigate the one that I don't know if that's
Starting point is 00:20:53 always a good idea, but I thought that was kind of fascinating. You tell me about your guys' talk at Red Dot. I obviously they had you guys in there. And I saw something about like it was a it was for online business for personal trainers or was that the main gist of the talk. Yeah, it was rad. Yeah, no, it was so they didn't they didn't promote it right. So there was we didn't talk about it. They didn't talk about it. Scott and CC the owners of Red Dot wanted to make it like a private thing that they did like an invite only and I didn't know this like Scott and I had talked months ago
Starting point is 00:21:26 originally I was gonna do the talk and I was then planning on going to Tahoe with Katrina that we can I I asked Sal if he could cover and do the talk He said yeah, I got it and then Tahoe gets Snowed in we couldn't even go up there and so I stayed in I said hey, you know I'll come down and do it with you if you want. He's like yeah, no, it'd be great So we both went down there. And at that point, I didn't realize that he wasn't announcing it. I didn't realize that they weren't promoting it. And so I was a little concerned that there wouldn't be that many people. That a great showing. I think there was 35, 40 people. Yeah, 30 to 40 people. That's cool. And all trainers. Yeah, all
Starting point is 00:22:00 either trainers, doctors, chiro's, entrepreneurs, everybody was, so that was cool. So when we first started the talk, I always ask how many people have heard of Mind Pomp or know about us, and there's actually a good half of the room weren't already listeners of the show or knew anything about us, so that was nice. We got a chance to introduce ourselves to some other practitioners that are in our space, in our town.
Starting point is 00:22:29 And also I like Scott and CC a lot. So I imagine most of the people they invited were saw people and that's what I found out afterwards when I had a chance to kind of talk to everybody. So it was really good. We basically talked about how to build the online, your online presence, your social authority through new media, social media, YouTube, podcasts,
Starting point is 00:22:51 that kind of stuff, and how you can use that to augment or supplement your current business. So it wasn't necessarily about just building an online business, but we talked about that. It was more about how do you use strategies? Yeah, how do you use new media to improve your personal training business? Because number one, it's going to be a necessity soon. You're not going to be able to get away with not doing anything online.
Starting point is 00:23:19 But number two, if you do it right, it can really build a lot of authority and help you build your business. And the main message is the one that we talk about on the show, which is the big place, I think people make a mistake and get confused with social media and new media when trying to augment their business, is that they think that the strategy is just to get a million followers.
Starting point is 00:23:40 Right, right. Which is popular as possible. Yeah, which, first of all, it's extremely rare that you'll be able to do that. Very, very, very few people can get a million followers. But most people can get thousands, and if you do a good job, you build a lot of value with those thousands by doing a really fucking great job.
Starting point is 00:23:59 And then you've got now a good solid business, and that's really the strategy that we kind of talked about. So somebody tagged us on the forum, what Andy Vercela, you know, just did a podcast on this topic, which I found really ironic because he built his business off of, you know, hiring or employing or creating affiliates with all these Instagram models and people that just had a lot of attention on them
Starting point is 00:24:26 And so it was funny to hear him speak on this point because I think it's counter to how he started But we've been saying this since fucking day one that you know Just because you only have a thousand five thousand followers does not mean you can't build a huge business And if you most certainly have ten thousand plus you can build a multi-million dollar coming on. And the key is to engage and add value to those. Stop trying to sell them all the time. Be a real value. And put chasing likes and comments.
Starting point is 00:24:54 Like it's not about how many kissy faces and heart emojis that I can get and likes that I can get. It's about how many people are talking about the content that you're providing or the things that you are potentially selling. So if you're somebody who is trying to monetize your training service and you're taking ass shots and you're getting tons of follows
Starting point is 00:25:16 and your tons of likes on that, like that doesn't translate into your business at all. And so you're better off having five people like and comment on your post that you're providing value. But they really find you value. Then you are having 100 people comment and like your photo just because you look sexy
Starting point is 00:25:36 in the picture or what do I tell you? And that's just a message that I think. How funny is it? How skewed new media has made our perceptions? Like if you just went back 20 or 30 years and you had a brick and mortar business and I could present to you 5000 potential customers who really wanted to hear what you had to say
Starting point is 00:25:54 and found a lot of value. You'd be fucking, are you kidding me? You'd be like, I could turn that into real customers. Yeah, I could turn that into 500 to 2000 actual customers and now do the math of what that looks like for your for your local business People would have killed for that. Yeah, it's really no different. I got I got a random stat for you guys that I read after this I thought was really fascinating. So 2018 Twitter
Starting point is 00:26:18 Voted the number one most influential person who it was Okay, Taylor Swift. Oh wow. Okay, you wanna know what's crazy about this? 14 tweets in the entire year. Wow. Shut up. Right, that's crazy, right? Did she delete a bunch of tweets?
Starting point is 00:26:35 No, no, no, no, that's just, what it is, it's just a shit. Now, how do they determine what they mean by that? I'm sure I'm sharing. I'm sure it's actually, yeah, like the article didn't go into the algorithm of what made them decide that she's the most influential. But I'm assuming that that means the ratio of how many times she tweeted
Starting point is 00:26:52 what it probably got shared, commented, and movement on it. And it speaks to that. It's not about, it's not this how much shit you put out there all the time, just driving more comments, driving more people, looking at more eyes on it. If there's not value, you don't have necessarily real influence.
Starting point is 00:27:08 Nobody's going and doing anything about it. So focusing on your content more, so it's adding value and that people will actually share it, use it. I mean, that's the stuff that matters more than this. She's a phenom. I mean, Taylor Swift is going to be remembered as one of the greatest, am I opinion greatest artist fall time, just the music that she's written herself and performed for how long, how many hits has she had?
Starting point is 00:27:31 How many hits has she had? She's written it herself, for sure. How many hits has she had now? I don't know, I don't follow her. It's been, yeah, it's been in the same amount. Obviously. I wanna hear Justin, you were about to bring up before we started the podcast and I stopped you
Starting point is 00:27:42 because I wanted to hear about this on the podcast. Oh yeah. You are coaching Little League now. I I stopped you because I wanted to hear about this on the podcast. You are coaching Little League now. I am. Yeah, I'm gonna hold up this. Dude, I have no time for it, but I was like, I'm always gonna say that. You know, like it's one of those things I was weighing out.
Starting point is 00:27:56 I'm like, I don't have any time in excess for this, but it's finally at a point where my oldest, he's on a team now where I know the head coach. Like he's a friend of mine from high school. Like I've known of him. And so I was like, oh, this will be cool. At least I like now I can help him out. And so I'm gonna be acting as like assistant coach to him.
Starting point is 00:28:16 And I told him, you know, like some weekends, I may be traveling whatever. Like that's why I can't be a head coach. But if you can use me in any way possible, I'll be there. So, yeah, so I've already started, we've had three practices so far. We don't have a real field yet.
Starting point is 00:28:32 It's been super rainy. No, this is literally baseball. So what do you in charge of putting together the warm-ups and the drills and the... Yeah, so I'm kind of letting him, well, I am 100% letting him kind of dictate how all the structure of it goes. I'm just leading a bunch of the drills in this different sections of it, and so we're
Starting point is 00:28:55 trying to hone in on the skill because they're at a point where it's going to get real competitive next year. So they need to really foster and develop these skills so they can hang with the next year. So they need to like really foster and develop these skills so they can hang with the next level. Dude, it's challenging as fuck. Does he know what a bad ass you are? When it comes to training? No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:29:15 I kind of like, I played, because that's like, that's a fucking treat dude. Like do the parents even know that you're the one helping with the drills and chutes? No, no, no, no, I'm, I'm totally underplaying it. Trust me, like I'm just trying to like sharpen, you know, like each one of the little drills that we're doing and stuff and like really trying like, add my own flavor to it.
Starting point is 00:29:35 Cause it's kind of interesting because we also have a guy that's helping out coach who, uh, coached like girl softball for like over a decade, you know, and like I he was one of my teachers. He was like the wood shop metal shop teacher and like a friend of mine kind of and like, so it's nice having him to to kind of defer, especially he's really good at like the hitting drills and stuff. So yeah, I'm geeking out on it so far.
Starting point is 00:29:59 It's been it's been pretty fun. The kids are definitely like all over the place. I would imagine the learning curve is very similar to the one that we had with clients of when you first start you probably initially have all these ideas of, oh, I'm going to teach them this and I'm going to teach them that I'm going to show them this. They need to learn this and this is an important aspect to them scaling their their abilities up and then you get out there and you start to apply and you're like, this is a fucking disaster to them scaling their abilities up. And then you get out there and you start to apply, and you're like, this is a fucking disaster or a mess,
Starting point is 00:30:27 or they're not like adhering to half the stuff. Just like with clients, and then you start to, after you've been in this for as long as we have, you start to go like, oh, wow, if I could just get my client to walk, you know, this many times a day. And you start to regress, are you noticing that already?
Starting point is 00:30:42 Like where are you? Yeah, of course. Like you start in with all the best intentions of like, I'm gonna teach them so much. Right. Right. Yeah. I'm like, I'm like, demonstrating all these drills
Starting point is 00:30:53 and I'm like, working with them, actually moving their bodies in a certain way to try and get them to conform to that and like, understand it better. And sometimes you get kids at like, you know, like a light bulb, like turns on, you're like, yeah. But like, for the majority, kids at like, you know, like a light bulb like turns on, you're like, yeah, but like for the majority, it's like, and then they go right back to the habits of like
Starting point is 00:31:10 their body just kind of goes into this weird like contorted gumbee position. And I just like pull my hair out, but I've caught myself that that was like the first practice. I was like, like a little bit like, oh shit, I don't know, I don't know man, I need to like sort of, how do you, how do you approach this differently? How do you get them to do what you want?
Starting point is 00:31:27 How do they? So this is like eight, nine year olds. So they're a little bit older, but they're still young enough to where they could be a pain in the ass and not listen to you. How do you get them to? Focus.
Starting point is 00:31:38 Well, you just have to, I mean, he got to be really assertive like from the very beginning. Like you can't let him fuck around. Like, you know, because they just, like, they'll go play and they have friends on the team. And so my son has like two of his best friends on the team. So we can't have them in groups together. Like, I just can't, I just figured that out.
Starting point is 00:31:56 I'm like, no, so distracting. Yeah, so distracting. So, yeah, we kind of know who Jell's best, like, and we start pairing him off accordingly. And then also the skills of it. And we're trying to, we're of know who Jell's best, like, and we start pairing them off accordingly, and then also the skills of it. And we're trying to find out who's gonna be like the pitcher and who's gonna be like, what position, how we're gonna fill this and everything.
Starting point is 00:32:14 And so it's interesting, man. Here's what I'm looking for. I'm looking forward to hearing about one thing with this entire, with you coaching little league. And it's gonna be great. I can tell you this right now, Adam. This is gonna be awesome. I cannot wait to hear how you deal with the parents. When the parents are fucking yelling.
Starting point is 00:32:30 I'm telling you what they're saying. I tell you what to do and why isn't my kid playing right now? What's going on? I've heard stories already that one of the kids like grandma's is really, really vocal. And like it has, because he has an older brother and like one of the other parents, like I just went last night,
Starting point is 00:32:47 like we're trying to like build relationships, you know, with people in the community. You might have to fight a grandma. Yeah. Shut up, Granny. You sit down, you sit down. But yeah, we went to see Lego move a bunch of like boys, and that was madness, but I was sitting there talking
Starting point is 00:33:04 about the past. Oh, you took them to the movies? Yeah, yeah, a bunch of like boys and that was madness, but I was sitting there talking about the past. Oh, you took them to the movies? Yeah. Yeah. A few of the kids and, you know, and then after that went to that asshole, huh? Take them to the pizza rolls in the movie. I'm watching with fucking kids. Yep.
Starting point is 00:33:16 Throw a popcorn. Well, it's a kid's movie. So yeah, yeah, fuck you. I expect you kids to be there. It's my opinion. So yeah, like fair. Yeah. So we so I was talking to one of the parents and that's usually the one that told me about like the grandma that's like very vocal is it so it's like we'll find out all the players names and we'll yell at them specifically out
Starting point is 00:33:36 there like you should be grabbing that you ground nerves coming right to you. Seth you know like like pointing people out it's like oh no like don't know, I'm gonna have to like, sort of figure that one out. Dude, some of these parents of kids who play sports, I want a string. Bro, my parents were that, dude. I've watched. My stepdad used to have to watch,
Starting point is 00:33:56 the fuck in my sister's practice from his car in the parking lot. They wouldn't let him on the field. Oh my God. Yeah, because they get involved so much. Yep. Which, and I remember, because they get involved so much. Yep. Which, and I remember, my parents did this to me when I was in high school.
Starting point is 00:34:08 So when I was a freshman, I lived in a small town, Mariposa, and I played on the basketball team. And I was really fucking good. You know, I led the team in points, I led the team in assists and steals. I was one of the star players. And then I moved to a town that was bigger. It was, I think that was a division four or three, and then I moved to a town that was bigger. It was, I think that was a division four or three,
Starting point is 00:34:27 and then I moved to a two or a three, whatever. So it was a jump in talent, and it was very obvious. I mean, even as a kid, I knew it. You know what I'm saying? Like I saw my, I was clearly a starter in one of the best players in one town, and then I get another town, and now there's at least one guy who is better than me.
Starting point is 00:34:48 And there's another guy who's like close to his ghost me and we're all fighting for the same position. And so my first year coming in as a sophomore, I rode the bench a lot. And my parents embarrassed the fuck out of me, dude, because they went down and we're like, my kids scores all, because they don't know. They just remember watching me and I was killing it, right?
Starting point is 00:35:04 I was saying they're so proud of their son and they're celebrating and all on this great player. Then I'll send a code to sitting on the bench. Oh my God. That happened to me. My dad actually had to become the scorekeeper because otherwise he would yell. He yelled to coach.
Starting point is 00:35:16 Oh, no. You know, I was just still like dad like be doing something. Don't keep yourself by your bat fight your kids battles for them. Oh, absolutely necessary because it just takes away their power and it's embarrassing. Oh, it did. It was one of it was one. It was embarrassing for me.
Starting point is 00:35:30 It was something that like then I never wanted them to come to a game or anything after that. I don't want you guys to be there. Oh, no. I told, I mean, I remember what my son was late to a practice one morning and he woke up late and I didn't remind him or anything and I'm like, you're late. So what are you, you know so what are you gonna do? So he went to his practice with 10 minutes left
Starting point is 00:35:50 and he did a lengthy apology to his coach and to his team and then did the thing, they have to accept certain amounts of responsibility. I remember when I was in judo, I don't know how old I was, I might have been 13 or 14, there was this visiting team from Russia and they had kids and adults of all levels and one of the kids was in my pool for this tournament. So the last match, me and him are fighting for first place.
Starting point is 00:36:16 The person loses get second place. So I'm going against this kid and I get on top of them on the ground, nobody's scored any points and I'm putting him in a lapel choke. So I'm choking the shit out of this kid, and my mom is yelling at me to stop choking him from the crowd.
Starting point is 00:36:31 What? What? Stop. I can hear, I can hear my mom. I can hear my mom in the crowd. Stop choking him. He can't breathe, stop it. Like mom, this is part of the sport.
Starting point is 00:36:44 And then, yeah, and then my name, Salvatel, Salvatel, stop choking him. Stop it, you're hurting him, stop choking him. He can't breathe. Stop it. Mom, this is fun sports. And then, yeah, and then my name, Salvatel, Salvatel, stop choking him. Stop it. You're hurting him. Stop choking him. I'm like, fucking like, what do I do? Like, I don't know. Superplexed right now. And I mean, there was inside of me, I'm looking for this kid like,
Starting point is 00:36:55 and I'm like, fucking tap out, dude, because I'm gonna put you in. Oh, dude. So, so funny. Is there, what do you think his parents, is there an, there's an age where you, you do intervene and when you don't? Cause then I also remember when I was a fourth grader, okay? And I got jumped by two eighth graders.
Starting point is 00:37:12 And, uh, oh shit, that's what I'm doing. If I see my kid do that, I'm jumping in. Right, so my, that's different. And, and so, you know, I'm in the office and I thought that my, and my stepdad comes down to pick me up from school. And he asked me if I knew where these kids live. And like I said, yeah, I know how they walk home from school
Starting point is 00:37:31 and he straight got in the car and fucking were going after him. And he said, whoa, and here are these two kids that had jumped me and they were eighth graders and I was fourth, yeah, fourth grade is what I was. And they were seventh or eighth, I can't remember. And they're walking and he's like, looks like he's gonna run him over. Whoa, and just locks the fucking e-break up.
Starting point is 00:37:49 Right behind him gets out, so kids like turn around and come stomping over and gets right in both their faces and scares the living shit out of these two kids. He doesn't touch him or doing like that, but basically threaten these kids. That's appropriate. Right, and so eight graders on a in two of them,
Starting point is 00:38:05 beating a lot of fourth-better. Yeah. They're lucky they didn't get their asses beat. Right. You know what I mean? So that's what I mean. Like, so as a parent, and I didn't resent my dad for that. Like, that felt, I now I felt safer.
Starting point is 00:38:16 You know, school, like, okay, these fuckers aren't gonna fuck with you now, because my stepdad's gonna come down and probably beat them to a living pulp. So, you know, my dad did with my brother. So my brother was, he was a tough little fucker. He's always been a tough kid. Good kid though, I never get pissed off.
Starting point is 00:38:32 But because he was as happy, go lucky kid, kids will fuck with him. So our neighbors, two of our neighbors who were kids who were, they were both one and two years older than him. They both jumped my brother. And this is when my brother was, he was probably 10 or 11.
Starting point is 00:38:46 So what grade is that? And they, what is that fifth grade maybe? Okay, so it's around my age. No, no, fourth grade, fourth grade. So this is what happened to me, right? Yeah, yeah. So he gets jumped by these kids who are little older than them and there's two of them.
Starting point is 00:38:58 And he comes back and his hair is all tussled up and everything. And I'm like, what happened? And he's like, you know, I don't want to say the kids' names. They still live there. But, you know, so and up and everything and I'm like, what happened? And he's like, you know, I don't want to say the kids names. They still live there. Um, but, you know, so and so and so. Both fought me, but I did pretty good or whatever. So my dad says they both fought you at the same time. My brother's like, yeah, and he goes, let's go outside.
Starting point is 00:39:14 So my dad walked over there. He called the two kids over. They walked over and they were expected to get scolded. And he goes, did you guys all fight with each other? And they're like, yeah, we're just playing. He goes, that's fine. You guys can fight. He goes, who wants to go first?
Starting point is 00:39:27 One on one against my son. So now the kids are all fucking on the spot. Oh my god. So my brother, my brother fought one of them when I want to be the crap out of them. And then my dad pulled them off. He's like, okay, do you want to, no, I don't want to fight anymore.
Starting point is 00:39:40 And that was it. It was hilarious though. Oh, that's great. Because my brother was a fucking little terror. Yeah, that's awesome. That's it. You know what it was? I remember that was it. It was hilarious though. Oh, that's great. My brother was a fucking little terror. Oh, that's awesome. That's anyway. You know what it was? I remember that was the era of,
Starting point is 00:39:49 you remember when Swirlies? We're a big deal. You remember Swirlies? What is Swirlies? Yeah, you remember when the Swirlies? Oh man, that's Swirlies. That's Swirlies. When you stick someone's head in the toilet
Starting point is 00:39:58 and you flush it and they were trying to do that to me and it was two of them. And so we got into it and they were fucking fighting me in the bathroom and I'm like, there's no way I'm fucking letting these two guys do that. Stick my head in a toilet and do that. But that's how it started. I remember that was a popular thing
Starting point is 00:40:13 and I don't know where that came from. Yeah, I don't know. But do you remember that? I do remember that. That was a big thing to have. I'm not a fugly. Yeah, my friend. The kids treated differently now.
Starting point is 00:40:20 Like if your kid back then did a swirly on the kid or gave a kid a wedgie, you get like a citation probably. Oh, yeah, nothing happened to these kids. You know, no, today, could you imagine if kids put another kid's head in the toilet, they'd probably get charges pressed against them. Well, bullying is still happening, though. Like, I've been enlightened on this from a lot of the other parents and like some of their stories
Starting point is 00:40:43 and like usually it's around one of the older kids it's like jealous because of somebody's relationship with a girl you know and so then they're like peacocking and then they punch you know this kid like stay away from this girl boom punches on the face like that still happens. Oh really? Yeah I didn't think that still happened. That's before guys realize that if they work together they're going to be more right. Yeah the exact it's like one guy's trying to get like all the attention from the girls. That's still a thing. I remember that.
Starting point is 00:41:09 I remember that change in thought process. Do you remember that? It's successful on that level though. Yeah, when you're hanging out with your buddies and you're like 14, 15. That doesn't last long. No, and then you get older, like. Everybody turns on you.
Starting point is 00:41:19 Hey, if we got cool, more girls will like us than if we try to peacock your novel idea. Yeah, some dudes never, will like us than if we try to peacock. Sort of novel idea. Yeah. Some dudes never, speaking of dudes doing that, I just read this hilarious study on single men. So they did this study on single men versus married men or men who were in a long term relationship. You wanna know what they tested?
Starting point is 00:41:38 Yes, yes, yes. All right, you guys are gonna like this. So here's the title of the study, do single men smell and look different to partnered men? So based on research, they actually did research, they took, they took, what smells like giving up? They always smell the gum trying.
Starting point is 00:41:54 They take 82 heterosexual women between 18 and 35, and they raided the body odor and faces of males aged 18 to 35, and consistent with the hypothesis, single man had stronger smelling body odor than partnered man. How crazy is that? Now, is that because you think they're more nervous? No, no, I think it's because, and there's studies that'll show that
Starting point is 00:42:22 estrogen higher and then they're, you're creating more, more pheromones. You're, yeah, they found that when you're single. Cause it's like you're trying to attract a mate. Putting it out there. Yeah. You're trying to attract a mate. So your body is actually putting off.
Starting point is 00:42:37 I'm, and you know, you know what's funny is that that when this is, this is not an, Oh, dress. Yeah, come on. And this is not a, this is not a part of this study, but women who are ovulating are more attracted to a body odor than women who are not ovulating. So when women are at stinky gym clothes,
Starting point is 00:42:58 we have when women are at peak fertility and typically peak hornyness or whatever, because you know, their bodies can get pregnant. That's when they tend to want more women get horny. Male body. Sorry, it got. Compos.
Starting point is 00:43:11 Surprise. Speaking of eights. Some of them even masturbate just a minute. Yes, speaking of odors, so Katrina has like, spidey senses now. Oh yeah, dude. It's hilarious. That's what happens.
Starting point is 00:43:23 So I've always, and I don't know if this has something to do with allergies or whatever that are just being extra sensitive, right? I've all, you guys know this, you've been with me forever. We walk in somewhere like on the first one to smell a smell or whatever. So that's how it's always been for her and I like, I always will go somewhere and I'm like,
Starting point is 00:43:41 oh, we can't go here like this smell is bothering me or whatever. And she's like, well, I don't smell anything. And now the roles of reverse, never in our relationship has this happened to the point where she'll get nauseous. So when we were on the plane ride, back, what do we just all fly to? Where do we fly to?
Starting point is 00:43:56 Just recently. Vegas. Oh yeah, Vegas. So when we flew to Vegas, for God, all about it. Yeah. Probably fly a lot. You know what I'm saying? So we're flying back from Vegas and she had to,
Starting point is 00:44:07 she had to bury her face into my shirt for like half the plane ride because the guy next to her, his, his, his odor was making her nauseous and sick and I couldn't even smell him and I'm like I'm super sensitive and she's like and I didn't know why she was doing it. She's all lean in enemy for the longest time and I'm like, what are you okay? And she's just like, oh, the smell, the smell.
Starting point is 00:44:25 Dude, I find that stuff so fascinating because your biology, there's a huge influence from your biology. I mean, women naturally, if you were to take a group of 100 men, women, and compare them to a group of 100 men, naturally women have a keener sense of smell, taste, hearing for sure. I don't know about hearing, but I...
Starting point is 00:44:45 Like later on when I swear my wife's hearing just like, it's on another... Absolutely, because you're, yeah, you're cub, dude. You're worried about weird sounds. You're like the most like a pin drop. Well, so I don't know about that one, but the ones that I know about are smell, taste, and sight. So women can't see better, but they can discern color better. Oh, I see. And so women... Yeah,, but they can discern color better. So women...
Starting point is 00:45:06 Yes, so when they take like a spectrum of colors, women can identify subtle changes in the tone of a color, and a lot of men can't. In fact, there's way more men that are colorblind than women. And it's obviously because women carry a baby, and so they need to be able to discern, you know, when they're hunter-gatherian, so you're getting, yeah. Or is this good or is this bad? And so their sense of smell on their pregnant goes through the roof because it's a better safe than sorry strategy, right? Well, it's extremely obvious for us and our relationship, because even though that may be true for most parts, there's always exceptions to the rule. I happen to be the exception, the rule in this relationship where I or any relationship I've been in, I've always had a higher sense of smell than anybody I've ever known.
Starting point is 00:45:53 Until now, which is really fascinating for me, to have her, I mean, last night we're watching TV, same thing again. She's like, oh my God, she's like, she gets up. She walks over into the kitchen, which is the room over from our living room, and she has to unplug the air freshener. Cause she's like, it's making me sick. I want to throw up. I'm like, the air freshener?
Starting point is 00:46:11 You think it smells smell better, like really? And it's all the way in the other room. Oh my gosh. Yeah. It's the chemical. Yeah. I remember when I was married my wife at the time, like couldn't go into the garage.
Starting point is 00:46:26 There was, and I would walk in there, and I'm like, I smell nothing. I don't smell anything, but she couldn't even go into the garage without getting nauseous. And eventually I found what it was, and it was fucking two chips, two potato chips in the corner that were kind of bad or whatever.
Starting point is 00:46:42 But she could smell it from the house. Yeah. It's like she became a superhero. It's weird. It's like crazy right now. It's every day it's something different, smell wise that bothers her. And I'm like, I've never heard these comments. It's always me.
Starting point is 00:46:56 It's always like, I don't like the smell and I'm like not saying fart outside. Dude, it's, she's got super spidey senses right now. Is she craving anything different besides the oranges? Or is that the same? Yeah, no, she's on this gummy bear cake right now. Even though she wanted a minute. She wanted, she wanted a minute.
Starting point is 00:47:13 She's eating more gummy bears in the last like, fucking four weeks since she has in the eight years we were together. So I could definitely say it's a new, it's a new, weird craver. So she's definitely craving the fruit, the fruity taste of whatever. You might want to make her like, it's a new weird craver. So she's definitely craving the fruit, the fruity taste of whatever. You might wanna make her like, she's frozen fruit.
Starting point is 00:47:28 So she's doing the smoothie box on a very consistent basis right now. So that was like my suggestion to her because of that. But I have her talking now, so it's been awesome. And I don't know if Dr. Gabrielle Lien is listening to us on a regular basis now or not, but a shout out to her for she's like totally
Starting point is 00:47:50 taking Katrina Ann and has been, oh cool. They've been texting back and forth and they're in communication on a regular basis now, sir. They have about like a similar date, right? Oh yeah, they're a week or two. Yeah, with a week or two different in their pregnancy. And so she's been an incredible resource.
Starting point is 00:48:05 And it's, you know how it is, like, it's so much easier for somebody else to tell her, like who the fuck am I, you know, saying like, so I've been like, she's going through it. Because I've been telling her since the beginning, like I think she's under, she's under eating right now. And I think some of that is natural because she's not training as consistent as she was before.
Starting point is 00:48:22 This first trimester. She also had some sick, morning sickness. So I mean, like, so the first trimester, just like what, you know, Dr. Laine was saying, she said the first trimester was been, has been really tough for her too, as far as getting into the gym and wanting to train, because she doesn't feel good or whatever. And so Katrina's been the same way. Well, what happens when her and I don't train, we both are similar in this
Starting point is 00:48:38 way, is we under eat. And like, you know, I am always this way too. When I get inconsistent with my training, it's training, it's a lack of getting nutrient dense foods that my body needs, and it's over-consuming the foods that I don't need. That's typically what happens, and so I think Katrina is trying to figure that all out right now, and I have her tracking this week, actually, to dive into that with her
Starting point is 00:48:59 and get a little more specific with what I think she can add to her diet. This clause brought to you by Organify. For those days you fall short on getting your organic veggies or whole food nutrition, Organify fills the gap with laboratory-tested certified organic superfoods to help give your health a performance at the added edge. Try Organify totally risk-free for 60 days by going to organify.com. That's O-R-G-A-N-I-F-I.com. And use a coupon code MindPump for 20% off at checkout. Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Man, this is all about you guys. You know what, can I just, we're gonna have an honest conversation.
Starting point is 00:49:47 A moment aside. We're gonna have an honest conversation. Okay, what is that? Because double honest, I'm curious. Super honest conversation because calves have this notorious reputation for being stubborn muscles, they don't wanna build, they don't want to grow. Part of that reason, there is a genetic,
Starting point is 00:50:11 definitely a genetic effect. Part of it is the shape. So if you have really short calves, no matter how big you get them, they're not gonna look that impressive. They won't look as impressive as a calf that's longer, but I'm gonna be quite honest here. A large, large, most probably 98% of the reason why people
Starting point is 00:50:29 have a tough time working their calves or building their calves is they just don't train them nearly as consistently, in order they start training them as early as they train the rest of the body. That's why I'm just gonna put it out there because I'm gonna be honest about it for myself. I didn't hit my calves for a long time when I was a kid. It was never in my workout. I hit my legs, but I never really hit my calves. And it wasn't until when we started
Starting point is 00:50:52 podcasting that I'm like, that's it. I'm going to make my calves grow. And guess what? I added an inch on my calves during that whole time when you and I Adam were going for it. So I don't think there's something inherently with the cat inherent with the calves, that makes them so difficult to, I just think a lot of people don't fucking train. I think there's, I think you're 100% right. And then I think there's other factors, there's some factors in there.
Starting point is 00:51:16 One, it is a muscle that is being stimulated while you walk all the time. So if you already have a high insertion, which means your calves are like small and up high, right? So like I have a very high insertion. I have, and you're right, even the best my calves ever looked, they still didn't look that impressive
Starting point is 00:51:36 because they're not like Justin has cancels, right? His calves go all the way down. Thanks. So that felt like it's all too small. Yeah. No, he's got to, he's got to go all the way down. Thanks. That's all too so much. No, he's got to, he's got to go all the way down. They do. And so it automatically makes the calf muscle look, it is bigger. It's got a longer origin and insertion.
Starting point is 00:51:56 And so it's got a longer muscle belly. And so then they already, he's got a genetic advantage. So that plays somewhat of a role. But does that mean somebody who has terrible calves can't build them? No, I think that there's some common mistakes. I think lots of high repetition stuff tends to be the way that people gravitate. I think one of the biggest game changers for me was lifting heavy five reps, full range of motion, like all the way down, all the way up on my tiptoes, like full range of motion with load,
Starting point is 00:52:26 for only five reps was one of the biggest things that made them explode. And then I really had to increase the frequency on how much I was training my cows, because I think again, going to the point of they're getting stimulated when you walk. And so they're already used to a decent amount of volume because you walk on them.
Starting point is 00:52:44 So you have to really ramp up that volume to stimulate them to grow more. Well, think about it this way. We've all worked in Jim's for a long time. How often do you see people doing 30 minute to an hour minute, to 60 minute chest workouts or bicep workouts? Right, how often you dedicate that to workouts? You never, right.
Starting point is 00:53:04 Nobody's ever doing more than one exercise for caps, and that's the best. I did this for four years. So for four years of my life, I can honestly say, because I was getting on stage, the rest of my life I could care less, you know, it's like someone teasing me about my forums.
Starting point is 00:53:17 It's like whatever, you know what I'm saying? Like it's, I'm not really that concerned to where I'm gonna dedicate that much time, but when I had to get on stage and I was being judged by my physique, I had never put as much attention on my calves as I did during the time that I was competing. And I'll post a picture so if you don't, if I don't remember, and this goes live, DM me, I actually just went through my old library of picks and I grabbed some of the calf ones to show people that have been that it text me now
Starting point is 00:53:48 Right now my calves look terrible It's a my keelies. I have I've hardly ever touched them I can train them once every two weeks at best and they're it's more rehab type stuff I do today, but there was a time where I think my calves were the most impressive I've ever seen them and when I was at that point, it won, I'd been after them for a good two to three years leading into that. And the amount of frequency and volume,
Starting point is 00:54:13 I was training them a minimum of three to five times a week. And a minimum of one to two times were like a full dedicated session to them. And you were doing a, we were both doing a collusion training. Yeah, and well, that was part of that. I was doing, I was including that in that. So it's, you're right. There's just not a lot of attention on them.
Starting point is 00:54:29 I think and so there's a lot of neglect there. I also, another point that I noticed gains from this. Funny that, funny that this happened. When I started squatting really heavy and deep, I got some carryover and benefits from that. Never would have expected that. I am one of the drill issues. Right.
Starting point is 00:54:49 And your calves are getting involved in that when you're in that deep, deep, squatted position to get you out of there. You don't really, and especially when you're loading three, four hundred pounds on your back, like absolutely, you're getting some stimulus like that. So yeah, it's funny because I know, like, know, like in terms of like where my calves are right now and all the stuff. But there was work that went into actually building and developing, you know, even if it was not intentional. And like I think to, to Sal's point of like starting early. So like when I think about like when I first started, even just training for football. And I was moving and pushing around
Starting point is 00:55:26 really fucking heavy sleds like all day long and then I'm sprinting and then I'm also working on training for basketball and I'm working on my jumping skills, my reactive abilities like I was just constantly on the ball of my foot and then also like moving and being explosive that had to have carried into the and then also like in the gym doing squats like Adam's talking about and they're doing power cleans.
Starting point is 00:55:49 This is all going to affect that muscle along with everything else. So I 100% agree with that. Yeah, and if I look at like, if I look at my total training time where I'm dedicated lifting weights trying to build muscle from 14 till now at 40. All those years, I've trained consistently pretty much most of my body, definitely my upper body. My legs kicked in a little bit later, right around the age of 16 is when I started to hit my legs.
Starting point is 00:56:20 And so you're talking about 24, 25 years of dedicated upper body and then also mostly upper thigh workouts. Now if I were really to accumulate the total amount of calf, dedicated calf training, it's like three, four years. Are my calves ever gonna catch up to my upper body? Probably not because I've got so far ahead. And most people are like that. And so that's why I think it has a bad wrap.
Starting point is 00:56:49 I go to any gym, walk around any gym, look to how much time people spend on working out their calves, barely anybody. Look how much equipment is dedicated to calves. You're lucky if you have one calf machine. I've been to many gyms where there wasn't even one calf machine, let alone two. So you're lucky if you have a calf machine, I've been to many gyms where there wasn't even one calf machine, let alone two, so you're lucky if you have a standing calf and a seated calf, and if you have three calf machines,
Starting point is 00:57:10 you're in like bodybuilder heaven. Well, that's why this is why I loved the Bernal gym. Because they have the donkey calf. Oh, they have donkey, they have seated, they have the 45, they've got, dude, they have like seven little interesting. Oh, man. That was, and that was why I was the main reason why I trained at that gym was because I was hitting my calves five times a week, and I wanted as many different options as I possibly
Starting point is 00:57:34 could. And I did. I mean, I saw a big change in my calves. Huge change, just from that, but it took a lot of dedication. And the same that you would apply to every other muscle on your body and your right cell, just we talk all about the chest and the shoulders and the back and things like that. And the effort that people put towards growing
Starting point is 00:57:54 and building and changing that, if you applied that same effort, literally, like if you would dedicate a whole hour to your chest. And I started doing shit like that. I, there was days, I came to the gym and it was an entire calf session. I've spent an hour on my calves. Now you gotta be clear, you worked away up to that, by the way.
Starting point is 00:58:10 Oh yeah, you're listening to me work the calves out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's so verbal. No, no, no, oh, again, the same rules apply to this muscle as everything else. I'm always trying to do as little work as possible to list the most amount of change. And that's why I say, it took four years.
Starting point is 00:58:23 It was four years of the guy who rarely ever hit calves or occasionally hit calves or threw them in my leg workouts at the end to the guy who was like, calves are my main focus. Okay, I'm doing a full dedicated session. And then it was okay, another day that's getting them in there, oh, then adding it towards the end of another session. And then before along, I'm incorporating calves five days a week and one to two of those days are like full dedication towards them And they they did they were the best they'd ever they ever looked
Starting point is 00:58:49 I fuck I had I remember getting compliments every now and then and that was a big thing for me to go from being the guy That always always teased about having no calves to having decent calves, but there's certain things That you just can't change and that's the the high origin insertion For my calves like and I'll share that you'll see the picture. Like, they're not super high. You're, I would say your insertion is medium and compared to the rest of your body. If you have a foot, okay,
Starting point is 00:59:16 between your ankle and your calf, you have a very high origin insertion. Okay, so, so, I'm being totally objective, okay? If you were to compare your calf insertion and origin to the average person I would say it's medium now that the difference is every other muscle you have on your body has a very long insertion right Yeah, real long biceps real long triceps right your pecs your lats all everything else is long. Yes So in comparison it looks like it's very good. That's that's what that's what I okay
Starting point is 00:59:44 You're right for me. I'm not comparing myself to every other person. I'm comparing my body. And you just have long muscle bellies all over, which really benefits you, you know, on stage, for especially upper body. Right, but not so much on my calf. So, right, right.
Starting point is 00:59:57 But I mean, again, like they are, I think they are very much so built. And I think like to your point against how if I was doing that since I was a kid, if I was actually looking at it like the way I went after my chest. If calves were biceps, I swore to God this would, you would never have heard people talk about
Starting point is 01:00:14 how hard it is to develop calves. If girls were super attracted to muscular dudes take the calves, if guys thought that, I guarantee you you would not be hearing about, you know, that they're stubborn body part. Everybody be training. Nobody ever trains them. I have to work out, I read,
Starting point is 01:00:32 throw them in as kind of an afterthought. So it's total myth, it's a complete myth. Now, you can definitely have parts of your body that don't seem to respond as well as other parts of your body, but part of it goes to, are you dedicating the time and effort and energy to developing that body part? Are you connecting well to that muscle? Are you able to get a good mind to muscle connection? But very rarely is it like that.
Starting point is 01:00:57 The genes that work for the rest of your body that help to develop all of a sudden, you have these different muscle building genes for one specific part of your body. And the things we talk about, like full range of motion, right, and control, and these very much so apply to your calves, and something I had to do, I had to be okay with, was, you know, what heavy, what five heavy full range of motion standing calf raises for me, isn't very impressive. It wasn't a lot of weight, you know, but it was for me to go all the way down, all the way up onto my tiptoes and with a decent load to where I would fail at somewhere
Starting point is 01:01:31 between five to seven reps, I didn't need to put that much weight. That's how weak my calves were. And so don't fall into the trap of what I see a lot. And there's this this hopping rat like the bouncing, bouncing, yeah. The bouncing reps? Yeah, the bouncy reps and just trying to load plates, load plates and get into that because the shortening the range up like that, you're just not gonna get the max benefits. Just like if you were to do these little tiny pumping curls
Starting point is 01:01:57 or these little, these short tiny reps for your chest, like you're not gonna build a big chest that way. You're better off going a lighter weight and taking it through full range of motion and control than you are pumping out a bunch of reps. Really light, are really fast. Next question is from SlothK60. You guys talk about training your CNS.
Starting point is 01:02:16 How does training your CNS differ from training muscle groups? Yeah, we do talk a lot about training central nervous system. Well, okay, I want to be clear. You can't really separate the two. Yeah, it's all related. Yeah, like anytime talk a lot about training central nervous system. Well, okay, I want to be clear. Yeah, you can't really separate the two. Yeah, it's all related. Yeah, like anytime you fire a muscle, what is causing that muscle to fire? Is it? Is your central nervous system?
Starting point is 01:02:33 If you separated the two, that would be, you wouldn't be able to activate your muscles. Somebody else would have to activate them for you. So in other words, they both feed into each other. Yeah, they both work. So anytime you're training one, you're training the other. I think the thing that we should probably talk about is how to mind each one of those things and how here's a good example.
Starting point is 01:02:55 Like when I train at a super, super high intensity, there's a certain amount of damage that happens to the muscle itself, but then there's also a certain amount of damage that happens to the muscle itself, but then there's also a certain amount of damage, if you will, for lack of a better term, that happens in the central nervous system, and they both can recover at different paces because muscles are affected more often than not
Starting point is 01:03:20 by direct damage. So like I work out my bicep really hard, and I'm gonna most of the damage that happens to the muscles in my body, you're gonna happen to that bicep that I'm working. But all stress, all stress is affect your central nervous system. It's like you have a bucket that is all stress. And it doesn't matter if it's stress
Starting point is 01:03:38 from an argument you got into with your spouse, stress from lack of sleep, stress from poor diet, it's less stress from super, super hard workouts. It all goes in the same bucket. All that is feedback. Yeah. It all goes in the same bucket.
Starting point is 01:03:51 And even though your muscles are not getting that much damage because your workouts easy, if your CNS is at its limit because again, you're not sleeping well, you just lost your job, you know, maybe you're fighting an infection, you know, whatever, you have to mind that. You can't just hammer your muscles without considering the fact that your CNS won't be able to handle it. Well, there's also exercises that contribute more to building your CNS than others also, right? This is why I really like your speaker and amplifier analogy. I think that's such a great way to paint the picture for people to simplify something that is extremely complicated. So complicated that we still don't know everything
Starting point is 01:04:30 about the CNS. So I think that's important to tell people like the science on the central nervous system is still unclear. We're not for sure about some things, but there's some things that we've pieced together and we do know. And one of the things is there is a difference between a bicep curl and a barbell back squat as far as what's happening with the CNS. There's so much more demand on your CNS to, and it's kind of obvious, right? You're firing a ton of different muscles. So it's like a bunch of speakers are being turned on, right? Versus what? You need a strong ramp. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:05:06 You need to crank up your amplitude for certain types of exercises that are like compound. So as a more of a systemic effect for these exercises, they need more power. They need more juice. Exactly. So you need to be able to tap into that, which is really what we're talking about when we say
Starting point is 01:05:22 central nervous system versus, I mean, I mean, at the same time too, like you can work, you know, the muscles and we can work more in a hypertrophy type of style training, but that's gonna put a little, you don't require quite as much of an amplitude for this. No, and okay, so here's a good example of really trying to train my CNS.
Starting point is 01:05:43 So when I'm trying to train my CNS, what I'm trying to do is get it to be able to fire with more juice in a more effective way. Now part, there's a lot of things that control that. One of them is does your body feel safe, sending a loud central nervous system, amplifier signal? Because again, by using the example of the amplifier and speakers
Starting point is 01:06:06 If your amplifier was let's say it was an AI amplifier and it could sense the amount of power that the speakers could take It would limit its power Based on what it think the speakers could take. It's not gonna go more than the speakers can handle because it'll blow the speakers out Well, if your body isn't doesn't feel quite safe throwing out all of its power, you're not going to be able to get it. And so part of CNS training is getting your body to feel safe throwing out more of that juice if you will.
Starting point is 01:06:36 And a lot of that has to do with how your muscles fire, your control, your stability. So to give you a great example, if know, if you look at a highly trained Olympic lifter, they sure they have strong and big muscles, but they're also able to harness maybe 90% of their potential from their central nervous system versus let's say a bodybuilder who's the same size who doesn't really train to maximize the signal, but just trains to build muscle. They're not, they might be only able to summon 60%. And so the Olympic lifter is gonna snatch and clean and press or just squat even more weight.
Starting point is 01:07:14 Then the bodybuilder's really just interested in hypertrophy. CNS training is very important, extremely important for athletes. Like, if you're an athlete and you want to be able to explode, a lot of that has to do with the ability to summon this maximum power without hurting yourself. I think it's just as important to the person chase
Starting point is 01:07:34 anesthetics, and I'll tell you why. This was part of the reason why I scaled through the amateur to the professional level in competing was because I understood this part and understood the benefits of going through a powerlifting type of a cycle in my training, even though I'm not a quote unquote powerlifter, I'm a bodybuilder. And this is what I saw very common with my peers. So I think a great takeaway from this conversation is if you're somebody who trains a lot like
Starting point is 01:08:00 a bodybuilder because you want to look like a bodybuilder or a bikini athlete and so you're kind of following what they're all doing which is this hypertrophy, supersetting, high reps, going chasing the pump, talking about the pump all the time and you rarely ever do a strength cycle where all you care about is like how much heavy weight I can live, you're dropping three to five, you're dropping all the way down to a three to five rep range and you don't ever train like that, you are gonna benefit so much from that. Because that, if you can get just a little bit more, like Sal is saying, comparing the Olympic lifters,
Starting point is 01:08:32 if you can run a strength cycle for four weeks, where you're focused on this three to five type of a rep range, and you can get a little bit more out of your amplifier, a little bit more out of your CNS, that now will carry over into the hypertrophy and the building phase when you now go back into that. You'll be much stronger. You'll build more muscle.
Starting point is 01:08:50 You'll get more of a pump. So that little bit extra that you get out of that CNS will really even play into somebody who's not focused like an athlete that just wants to look better. I'm telling you, this was what allowed me for a show over show to improve. And when I looked at my peers And I still think this is a problem. I was talking at that seminar at Red Dot to two of my my buddies that are pros and
Starting point is 01:09:12 You know that a lot of the Feseeks they look they get to a point and they kind of peak out and the I my theory on why they do is because They they have reached their max potential from their CNS. They're kind of always chasing hypertrophy They're they're at their rev limiter and they haven't elevated the new reserves. Exactly, they haven't created a new level of capacity from their CNS because they never train like a strength athlete and they would greatly benefit from that.
Starting point is 01:09:36 You know, it's a great way to illustrate this is how to properly do plios. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And that's the thing is like this direct access to, you know, a maximal amplitude has to be really respected. And to be really respected, you have to be intentional with that specific movement that you're asking and requesting. So to be able to stay in that max amplitude,
Starting point is 01:10:00 it's a very short window. And so when we treat things like box jumps, and that is why I get irritated, we all get irritated when we start to see them used as like a fatiguing type of an exercise. That's training the muscles. Right. Yeah, if you're doing it to fatigue,
Starting point is 01:10:14 you're training the muscles to something else. No, that's one of the best expressions of, you know, really using and tapping into that max amplitude. And so you wanna direct all of that generated force upward. And so that's something that you want to fully recover. And so you want to recharge. It's just like recharging the battery completely. And then now we're going to access it again and express it.
Starting point is 01:10:41 Because you're practicing how to summon all of that power. That's what you're doing the playoffs. That's the point of it. You're not doing playoffs to get tired. If you just wanted to get tired, you could just jump in place. But what you're trying to do is practice your ability to summon all of this power.
Starting point is 01:10:57 And it is a skill. And here's the thing too, with CNS type training, CNS type training contributes to the skill of the movement that you're practicing. So it's also your body synchronizing, windifier, what muscles, and how hard to fire them to maximize whatever pursuit you're going after. You know, it's the reason why a boxer will punch with 10 times the force of a strong man who has way more mass and way more muscle a boxer knows that a summon their CNS maximize the technique maximize the the entire movement and turn and
Starting point is 01:11:33 get that no interruption in that signal. They've refined it over the years so many times because they've perfected the skill of that one movement and so that's why that's so important is to really refine the process because if there's any reserve, if there's like the governing and the mechanisms in place are trying not to get you hurt. And so it's an important factor that we have in our body. It protects us from having all this access, you know, go somewhere it shouldn't go. You know what's funny is we're talking a lot about like when you're training improve power and speed and bodybuilding, but this is more important for the beginner
Starting point is 01:12:12 because when I get a client as a brand new client, most of what I'm doing in the beginning is training the central nervous system. Now I'm not doing plios and I'm not doing powerlifting. I'm just trying to teach them to control their body. And you can see, because they're all shaking like a leaf. It's all stability training.
Starting point is 01:12:29 It's all trying to get them to be able to squat properly and learn how to move properly without their knees doing crazy things and their arms doing, that's all CNS training. In fact, very little of it is causing any muscle damage. Now, some of them might get sore because they're super decondition,
Starting point is 01:12:43 but really, it's all CNS training for a little while. We're not able to really push the muscle training until later on. And this is why I always tell people to go to the gym and practice. Don't go to the gym to work out. Go to the gym to practice your exercises. The workout will come naturally. It's that training your body to move properly. That's the part you need to focus on.
Starting point is 01:12:59 Next question is from ArchiTechnology. What are the pros and cons of adding calories via reverse dieting but staying low carb? So this would be like just reverse dieting staying low carb versus reverse dieting and adding carbs So just a quick Description of what a reverse diet is this is when you rather than cutting your calories down, you slowly add them up with a good strength training routine. And the effort is to speed up your metabolism. So the goal is to get someone from say 1500 calories up to 1800 calories with minimal or no fat gains because you're trying to speed up their metabolism. So that's kind of what a reverse diet is. And some people like to try to, they think minimize the fat gain by staying low carb the whole time. And other people will throw carbs.
Starting point is 01:13:54 So I used to do this, but not for that reason. So I, I, I like to, when I come out of a show, and I've learned this from doing it multiple ways is why I like to stay low carb and the major benefits that I saw from it was when you come from, when you're reverse dieting and you're coming out of a major calorie surplus, your body, or deficit, or deficit, that's what I mean. Your body is like starving for nutrients because you've been depriving it as it is.
Starting point is 01:14:20 And then you decide to give it, and when you give it carbohydrates, it kicks up that blood sugar spikes, your appetite goes up. And then to give it, and if you, when you give it carbohydrates, it kicks up, that blood sugar spikes, your appetite goes up, and then I want more, I want more, and it's hard for me to discipline myself to shut it off, okay, I'm only gonna allow myself to have 120 grams, real quick, 120 turns into 400, and so why I like to actually do like a higher fat,
Starting point is 01:14:40 higher protein reverse diet, and slowly introduce carbohydrates, is to control the hunger and the appetite spiking, not reverse diet, and slowly introduce carbohydrates is to control the hunger and the appetite spiking. Not because, oh, what I think everybody presents it on Instagram or presents it on gimmicks to get you to click and buy some shit. If presenting it is, it's the best way to optimize or limit the fat gain that you'll do.
Starting point is 01:15:01 Try to take a little bit of science to support some new gimmick way of doing things. Now, here, the real pros of it is that you're probably not gonna be craving as much. Therefore, that's what's gonna really do the biggest benefit. It's not making a huge difference as far calories. If you're eating a surplus of calories,
Starting point is 01:15:17 whether it's all fat and protein, it can get stored as fat just as easily. The pro, the other, the pro to throwing carbs in, in my opinion, we talked about the pro, the other, the pro to throwing carbs in, in my opinion, we talked about the con, but here would be the pro of throwing some carbs in if you could stay disciplined. That post show muscle building signal can be insane. The most muscle I've ever felt like I've ever put on in the fastest period of time was after I had diated down and got real shredded for the original Maps and Obolic photo shoot, got my
Starting point is 01:15:48 body fat down to single digits. After that, I started eating more calories and I was still working out and it was like I was on an Obolic steroids. I just built a muscle. I 100% agree that and that's a great way to look at it. If you're somebody who is trying to build and you want to, after this show you did or this cut that you did to come down and you want to put on some size
Starting point is 01:16:11 and you want to have my workouts were amazing too. So some of the best workouts I ever had in my life was post show, refeeding 800 grams of carbs and then going and working out. I'm just using all of it. Oh, God. It's like your body's a sponge. Yeah, exactly. And the pump was insane, the lift, of carbs and then going and working out. Just using all of it. Oh god. It's like your body's a sponge.
Starting point is 01:16:25 Yeah, exactly. And the pump was insane. The lift, I didn't want to, it was so hard to leave the gym. I didn't want to stop. It was just so amazing that feeling. So promoting adding gains at Poe show, there's the positive. But that, like I said, the con is it can get out of control real quick. Oh, dude, you're dealing with crazy, and it's not just the physiological changes that your body goes through from adding carbs
Starting point is 01:16:47 in when they've been so low and all that stuff. Psychologically, when you're dieting for something, and I mean real heart, actually anybody can, anybody who's ever dieted can relate, but especially when you diet down to a shredded level, you are, it's a struggle. At a certain point, I remember, I think it was when I got below eight or seven percent body fat.
Starting point is 01:17:09 Like, I was very cognizant that my body was fighting for me to eat and I would have dreams about food. I started to obsess about food. And that's a mental state. Once you open the floodgates and like, oh cool, I don't need to do this anymore. I can just eat. It's really easy to slip into the fucking binging.
Starting point is 01:17:27 Oh, we'll add in the fact too, back to the psychological piece. You start introducing those carbs, and let me tell you, the first few, probably thousand, depending on how big you are, all look like they look like they all go to good. No, you look leaner at first. Oh yeah, it fills out all your muscle bellies.
Starting point is 01:17:43 Also, your muscle bellies are more pronounced. So you look like you have more muscle separation. Your energy is great, your lips are great. So it's really easy for you to justify keeping the train going. When you don't realize it, okay, you're completely filled up already. Now it's time to cut it off or slow down.
Starting point is 01:18:00 You just keep seeing positive results and then until you start to see negative ones. And by that time, it's too late, you've already gone overboard. And my personal opinion, if you're an average person and your health is good and you don't have any, you know, major food intolerance, there's a gut issues that need to be dealt with
Starting point is 01:18:15 because sometimes people need to go low carb or paleo to starve down, you know, certain types of bacteria or inflammation or food intolerance. But let's just say you're a healthy person and you can eat whole natural foods, carbs, sources and fats and proteins and don't have an issue. I don't recommend cutting anything too low.
Starting point is 01:18:32 I just don't think it's a smart approach unless you have to. But if you live in the modern world, you've got a wide variety of foods to choose from. The second you cut out a macronut macro nutrient, even though carbs are not essential, if you don't have to, I feel like you're going to set yourself up for failure. That's my personal opinion. I don't think that's a long-term approach. Maybe a fanatic will get away with it for a long period of time, but I have yet to meet
Starting point is 01:19:01 anybody who went super low carb and it wasn't for a particular health issue and stayed that way forever. I've yet to meet anybody, you know, do that. It's just not a good long-term approach. And you can eat all the macronutrients, and if you eat them in a right way and you don't overeat in your active, and you can be amazingly healthy with a wide variety of macronutrient profiles. I think that's been proven through all the population studies. So, in my opinion, considering all the psychological
Starting point is 01:19:33 potential effects of adding in carbs, eventually, once you feel comfortable, you should probably add them in. You don't wanna always keep yourself super low carb unless you're treating something. Next question is from Jake Wagner. A higher ranked PT than me at my gym claims a squat is not functional as a human movement.
Starting point is 01:19:53 How do you explain to him that it is? That's silly. Man, that's the dumbest thing I've ever had. Well, I think there's obviously, he doesn't understand the definition, I guess, of what functional is. And then therefore, I could see you not under. Yeah, I don't think that a movement can be more functional than a squat.
Starting point is 01:20:14 But I've heard guys try and make the comment like, okay, if it's the most functional, what do we do the most, we walk around, right? We walk around and we, or sit, right? So what are the most common things we do? So we should just hip-h hinge and bend over the whole time. Well, no, so walking would be more like, so they would, they would argue that a lunge is more functional than a squat.
Starting point is 01:20:32 And this is like a splotge is a squat. Right, it is. Exactly. This is like a set of splitting hair type of argument that some trainers will try just to have a argument that a squat's not the most functional. I think a lunge or a Bulgarian split squat would be and it's like, they're all squats. One's a one has one leg in the front, one leg in the back.
Starting point is 01:20:47 And their base of their argument is that it reflects what walking looks like more than what a squat is because you don't. So here, I'm going to go from a hunter gatherer, most of the time that humans have been on earth, that's where I'm going to use, that's the criteria that I'm going to use for functional Okay, so here's what's functional. Here's what our bodies evolve to do, okay? Throw with accuracy, so that would be a functional movement. Can you throw something with some type of accuracy? Is that super applicable to modern life? Probably not, not unless you play a sport where you throw something? If you were able to throw something with good accuracy, would that mean you probably
Starting point is 01:21:26 have healthy shoulders? Yes, so that's kind of a good thing. Walking, obviously. Running for long distance, this was very functional for most of human civilization. Our bodies evolved to be able to do this for a long period of time. Is that necessary in modern life? Not really. Would it benefit you a little bit?
Starting point is 01:21:42 Probably would benefit if you could do it, but again, in modern life, not really. Squatting. Women, this is how women had babies. This is how people pooped. And this is how people sat to relax, but also to stay, to be able to move. Now, if you don't, people don't believe me, go to any modern hunter-gatherer society
Starting point is 01:22:02 and go to some third world societies and see how people wait for the bus or sit when they're not working or whatever they sit in a comfortable squat position and it takes pressure off the lower back It's a now for the most people listening the average modern westerner you think how can you relax in a squat? Well, yeah, we lost that ability a long time ago Well, there was some interesting thoughts that when we yeah, we lost that ability a long time ago. Well, there was some interesting thoughts that when we went to the human garage, like a long time ago,
Starting point is 01:22:27 and they had this theory about like how much pressure, internally that we don't account for, like that we, based off eating, and based off of like atmospheric pressures, you know, whatever, but one of the best ways to actually, like lower that internal pressure is to squat. And there was nothing that had more substantial benefit than a squat just for that purpose.
Starting point is 01:22:51 And is that because of the outward forces of you trying to resist that while you're in a squat because you're tightening up your core and all those internal muscles to support that? Because we're getting, when you think about it, and know you kind of rolled your eyes a little bit when you said atmospheric pressure, but we're being stuck on this earth. No, it's a real thing. We're spinning through the universe right now and gravity is pushing down on all of us to stay on this. So we're getting pressure all the time.
Starting point is 01:23:13 Well, we, so working the, the, the muscles that resist that would be like all your internal muscles that that support like your core and your spine, right? So therefore when you're squatting, that's probably getting activated at its greatest in comparison almost anything else. Well, maybe I don't know much about that. So I don't necessarily know that. Yeah, no, I know. And I was just putting that out there as a theory
Starting point is 01:23:34 that they had explained to us. And I thought that that was an interesting take on the squat itself. I know it being functional from just a movement perspective and what that's done to then also like reinforce Any other movement you're gonna talk to me about like it has it translates to everything well look Okay, I mentioned some of the functional human movements how humans evolved them but what are the costs of losing these?
Starting point is 01:23:59 Functional movement so what's the cost of losing the ability to throw with super accuracy at high speeds? It's not a huge loss, right? What's the cost of losing the ability to run for long distances, you know, with a healthy gate? Not a huge amount of loss in modern life. There was a lot of loss from not being able to walk barefoot in strengthen our feet, but we correct that with shoes and all kinds of crazy shit. But what is the loss of not being able to walk barefoot and strengthen our feet, but we correct that with shoes and all kinds of crazy shit.
Starting point is 01:24:25 But what is the loss of not being able to squat? That's huge. What are some of the most common problems in modern societies from a pain standpoint? Low back, hips, knee, and then if we go down the chain, ankle, stop. Those are super, super common people tend. Now, in my opinion, when you take somebody from not being able to squat
Starting point is 01:24:47 With good controlling good stability and you teach him to be able to squat in his take time To be able to squat with good controlling good stability their back pain goes away Their hip pain goes away. They're knee pain goes away isn't there a statistic for if you like You know if your hips Degrade into where you can't get up and down any more like your life expectancy goes way down. Absolutely. That's a test that they do now where the last somebody stand up
Starting point is 01:25:12 without using anything to help. And that will, if you're not doing squats, let's be honest, how are you going to prevent that otherwise? Dude, Adam, you're a great example. You always had low back pain. Yeah, no, it's gone. Completely. And it's because I was waiting to speak on this, but I mean, to Jordan Schallow's point,
Starting point is 01:25:28 the other day when we had him here, I remember when he said, there's no such thing as a bad shoulder. It's a multi-faceted joint that you have all these surrounding muscles that are responsible for keeping that joint healthy so it can take itself through full range of motion. And what happens is we neglect a lot of those muscles. And then that adds stress to that area, which is where brisidocens up happening for a lot of people and the body says, okay, this hurts
Starting point is 01:25:49 and then it sends fluid in there and then we have all these fucking problems. This is super common with the hips and with the shoulders and one of the things that I had brisidocens in my hips, I had low back issues all the time, all of it completely gone. And all of it is attributed to the work I had to put in to get to the point to where I could squat, ask to grass. And now that I can squat, ask to grass, I no longer have to put all the work in that I had to do to get there. Now I
Starting point is 01:26:15 just have to do squatting, ask to grass. And it keeps all of those areas healthy. It's the most amazing. It's I don't prime. I've been talking, I just did the pose you guys saw the overhead squat that I just did. Like I been talking, I just did the pose, you guys saw the overhead squat that I just did. Like, bro, I could not, I've never been able to do that in my life. I've never been able to do that. And I know people were like, I got people jabbing me out. It wasn't about the weight. I know it's not an impressive weight that I had. It's the mood. Like, I've never been able to sit in chucks. Okay. No heel rise, as to grass with a barbell over my head. That was a huge feat for me, and it's taking a ton of work on my ankle mobility,
Starting point is 01:26:48 my hip mobility, and then the latest one, my thoracic mobility, and I can now do that. Now what's so awesome and what I can feel is I don't have to keep doing all those movements. I just got to do that now. If I just get down in a squat, I have to have a healthy, I have to have good thoracic mobility,
Starting point is 01:27:05 I have good hip mobility, I have the good ankle mobility in order to perform that. So as long as I keep that in my life, I no longer have to put so much energy and focus on all these yoga practices. It can't spread. It's a beautiful exercise. And from a functional athletic perspective,
Starting point is 01:27:21 I can't think, now if you wanna train an athlete, you know, you use all kinds of different exercises and tools. But if I had to pick just one exercise, the squat would be definitely one or two, and it depends on the sport. But if you took a bunch of, you take a bunch of 15 year old athletes for most sports, and if you have to do just one weight training exercise, just have them do squats, you'll watch the performance improve in terms of doing. That's another reason why it becomes
Starting point is 01:27:47 one of the most functional movements. Is there's very few things that hit the anterior post to your chain and everything. Just take care of your. Everything from your neck to your ankles. Like every muscle gets worked with, I mean, sure, you're not getting a ton of work on the chest and you're not getting a ton of work
Starting point is 01:28:01 on the biceps or triad, but they're getting work. Everything's strength around the knee. Yes, every strength around all the joints. Everything is getting incorporated. So to Sal's point, it's one of the few exercises that you could say, man, if you only squatted, you could actually live a pretty fucking healthy life. And actually have decent amount of probably muscle
Starting point is 01:28:19 on your body forever just by doing that. That's it. So tell that guys an idea. Yeah, that doesn't get more functional than that. Haven't listened to this episode, Jake, also look, if you go to mindpumpfree.com, you can download any one of our guides for free. In fact, you can download them all for free. We won't limit you at all.
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