Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 973: Why Mind Pump Doesn't CrossFit Revisited, the Reason Powerlifters Carry More Body Fat, How to Negate the Negative Effects of Sitting & MORE

Starting point is 00:00:00 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND conversation. We don't talk a whole lot about fitness, but here's what we covered in that part. I started out by talking about macadamia nut milk. We got nutty, huh, Sal? Oh, the dad jokes. Hard. Yeah, anyway, so macadamia nut milk delicious game changer. I got mine from Thrive Market, one of the largest online retailers of non-GMO and organic products, including cleaning products, including pet products, and of course, food. If you go to thrivemarket.com.com, forward slash mind pump, we got you a hook up.

Starting point is 00:00:55 We're going to get you a month free membership and we'll get you 25% off your first order. Then we talked about a little current events. We talked about what happened with Jesse Smollett. That's the guy that hired people to beat him up and then pretend like it was a hate crime. Shame on you. Crazy, crazy, crazy. I brought up the defense communications board

Starting point is 00:01:15 and how the president apparently has the power to control all electronic communication. I did not know this. It's been around for a long time, kind of scary. Adam brought up a show on Prime called The Man in the High Tower. electronic communication. I did not know this. It's been around for a long time, kind of scary. Yeah. Adam brought up a show on Prime called The Man in the High Tower. Sounds like a cool show.

Starting point is 00:01:30 And then I talk about the Ted Bundy series on Netflix. So you're fully freaked out by that point. We love murderers. Then we talk about the effect of awareness and perceptions on behavior. I mentioned how Justin's beard is looking extra sexy. I am man. He had to fight Adam off earlier this morning.

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Starting point is 00:02:12 we got you a fat 25% off your first order. Then Adam talks about his 20 year high school reunion. Now you do the math, you can see how old he actually is. Pretty cool. And then that was it for the intro. Then we get into the fitness part of this episode. So here's the first fitness question. It was, look, why do we talk bad about CrossFit when all of us haven't really tried it for a long time. So I know you guys, some of you, Sikkimi, us talking about CrossFit. Why won't you drink our Kool-Aid, man? Apparently aren't Sikkimus talking about it. So we talk about CrossFit. Why won't you drink our Kool-Aid, man? Apparently, aren't sick of us talking about it.

Starting point is 00:02:46 So we talk about CrossFit and why we don't like their programming, but we give our good reasons. And yeah, we're right. The next question, is there a practical reason why power lifters tend to be higher and body fat? So what are the benefits of being a higher and body fat for power lifters? And then, of course, in that part of the episode, we get into this discussion about this new trend of females getting into power lifting,

Starting point is 00:03:08 which we think is awesome. Good part of the episode. Next question, this person spends a lot of time sitting down. What are some things they can do to minimize the potential negative effects that come from just sitting on your butt all day long? And the final question, this is for the trainers out there.

Starting point is 00:03:26 How do you build confidence in yourself as a trainer besides just getting more experience so we give some good teachings in that part of the episode? Also, this month, Maps performance, our functional athletic based workout program, in other words, you're gonna do all kinds of different movements, different exercises, you're gonna focus on maximal strength,

Starting point is 00:03:49 you're gonna focus on agility, you're gonna focus even on endurance, and you're gonna develop a body that looks like it could do all of those things. So think about that for a second. Strong, agile, fast, endurance. What does that look like naked? Looks pretty damn good.

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Starting point is 00:04:40 Designed for different goals and different individuals Bro Macadamami not milk game Changer okay, so I haven't used mine yet. It's in the it's in the refrigerator I'm Doug ordered it from a thrive the last time we make it got mine So I haven't used a name in it up. I'm academia nut milk is a game Changer so I drink all the one that Doug got us from Thrive Market, which I don't remember what the price was. Because I got, I got, I got, He says it was a good dollar more than like almond milk and stuff.

Starting point is 00:05:10 Yeah, and a dollar less than whole food. That's it, and so I went to Sprouts. So it was like creamier, like, why is it better? It's the, it's mild and the mouth feel is really, really good, which, you know, I don't know why you do your eyebrows like You feel weird You really sell me on the mouth feel you know people don't realize it's okay, dude But mouth feel is a huge component in palatability. It's why nitro brew coffee is so amazing

Starting point is 00:05:39 It's the mouth feel. I know it's the way it feels inside your mouth. That's just science. Tell me it doesn't sound weird though. Like you're saying that out loud. It wasn't weird, but then when you do eyeballs, as I'm saying, it made you feel weird. But anyways, I know what you're talking about though. Yeah, I get that creamy texture. Yeah, I don't like to say creamy, that's worse. But I got it, and what I do post workout is I pour

Starting point is 00:06:02 about a cup and a half or two cups in like a little blender I add this I don't recommend this is do it your own risk. I'll is I'll put four to six raw egg yolks for the cholesterol Then I'll add a little bit of protein powder for flavor blended up. It's the best post workout It's got the it's got the proteins. It's got the cholesterol for the repair Not I don't recommend raw eggs because the salmonella risk however if you do your research you'll find that Good well sourced eggs have something like one at every 20,000 of them might have salmonella so it's actually quite quite low risk But anyway, that's what I do and it's fucking delicious and then here's the other thing when you go on thrive I went on thrive market to buy the macadamia nut milk because it's fucking delicious. And then here's the other thing. When you go on Thrive, I went on Thrive market

Starting point is 00:06:46 to buy the Macadamia nut milk, because it's so much cheaper there than it is at Sprouts. They also have this like free gift thing you could do on Thrive. So I was asking Doug about this, where you can qualify to get like free products and free gifts by buying. Oh, so you get like a reward sort of points for the amount of purchases you make?

Starting point is 00:07:05 Yeah, you know you get things to try out Basically so you can get different products. In fact, they'll send you an email They probably they probably target you with things that are like if you buy it Most likely the less if you buy this in this year most right so For example, I get emails from Thrive Market and they will send out to me, like today's free gift is this, if you order. And I've gotten some pretty cool things, like some hot cocoa mix and things like that. So that's definitely worth a while.

Starting point is 00:07:33 And then one more thing I think you oughta mention about Thrive Market is that you can actually divert some of your savings over to people in need, which is pretty cool. Yeah, that's awesome. They do that. I'll tell you something else you should mention about Thrive Market that I think this is the last commercial of their contract, we've been with them for almost 10 years.

Starting point is 00:07:51 And if you don't, if you don't, if you're the mine pump, yeah, if you don't, if you don't have, when the internet came out, I was talking about it. If you don't have, how long did you guys think, I said it's two years. You said 10 years, no, it's not true. You guys are 10 years. you guys are ten. We all are replant. So here's what we'll do if you're listening to the podcast Yeah, I rewind to if he said ten just DM Adam or we're just the assholes. Yeah, no you get the assholes

Starting point is 00:08:17 I for sure said to because I You'll sound like it after you hear the episode. So it's okay though, we for two years. Oh, confidence. Yeah. Well, you know when you say something right and you know when you say something wrong, I know. I also know there's a disconnect sometimes between the brain and the bowel. Yes.

Starting point is 00:08:34 Yes. Anyway, it doesn't matter. Anyway, what are you trying to say? Two years. Is that we have had a contract with them for two years now. And this is the final commercial that we have with them, which means that we may not have this offer going forward if we do not renew. So that's something that our audience,

Starting point is 00:08:51 if you've been kind of on the fence of trying to thrive, market out your notes. You've got a free month membership, 25% offer, first order. Right, so take advantage of that for sure, because I'm not sure if that's something that we will be going for. But yeah, I keep restocking my doctor Bronner's

Starting point is 00:09:06 Soaps and all that dude. I live off that's there so I like there They also have something called Sal's suds which Immediately drew me in because the name was brilliant The name is brilliant, but it's like a cleaning product for your kitchen and it's natural and it works really well Yeah, I just like that. It's just I don't know just knowing that I've cleared a lot of You know chemicals like at least lowered the exposure on some level. Yeah, so I want to ask you guys about what's the deal If you guys have been reading about this was it the Empire actor? Oh Jesse Smolt dude. Yeah, oh Fucking blowing wow. Well, you know, you know, it was funny. I actually was just watching Ben

Starting point is 00:09:45 Shapiro respond to this a couple of days ago. And, you know, shame on the left for jumping all over this shit right away, because you've seen it. There was a lot of big name politicians that right away got as soon as this and it came out were quick to make a big deal about it. And now to their to their defense, that would have been great for campaign wise for them to be like, yeah, like I didn't see what's happening. Well, to their defense, there's a few things that are happening. First off, the right has done that as well. It's I think it's the media.

Starting point is 00:10:18 And my personal opinion is that the media, especially mainstream media, is they're clawing at everything they possibly can because they're dying. And they're losing viewers, they're losing readers at a very, very rapid rate. And so what they're trying to do is to be the first ones to come out with enraging news. And so nobody's really fact checking or waiting to see what the truth is and they're all jumping on it. Politicians have always done that. Politicians are opportunists. That's just what they do.

Starting point is 00:10:47 They look at an opportunity to jump on it. Now, it just so happens that the left has done this now a couple times, one after another, because before this, there were those kids from the Catholic school that were getting yelled at by the black Israelites and they were, you know, hammered. Then the Native American drummer went up and drummed in that kid's face. And the media jumped on it and said that the kids were being racist or whatever.

Starting point is 00:11:11 And then the whole video came out to show that they were not being that way. That made them look terrible. Now we got this case where the dude said, hey, I got attacked because I'm gay and black. And he fucking planted. It was fabricated Not only he paid for the whole thing whole thing was orchestrated. Yeah, and then the other thing too that this this is pointing out is that

Starting point is 00:11:32 We're at a time now. We're being a victim is empowering so people want to be they want people to know how victimized they are It's like this empowering thing. You know, I'm saying you got you guys read about what what? His motives right why he said he did this like this empowering thing, you know what I'm saying? You guys read about what his motives, right? Why you said he did this? Or what they're saying? Has he still, I thought he was still denying it? Well, so he had, this is what the speculation is, apparently he got this like anti-gay letter

Starting point is 00:12:00 and he complained to his bosses and he didn't think that there was a strong enough reaction. So he planned this whole deal to get more of a reaction. But then he, I mean, obviously, he got it. Terrible. So, okay, and so he hired to, let me get the story straight. So he hired some people to beat him up.

Starting point is 00:12:21 Beat him up, like they actually, like physically harmed him. And so the guys that he hired were Africans. From Africa. Yeah. I guess one of them was a bodyguard that worked. He kind of knew them or whatever. But he paid these guys to beat him up. And then afterwards he said that they yelled, you know, that, oh, my attackers yelled, racist things.

Starting point is 00:12:42 They have the... They have the... They have the had a mega hats on, you know, so he was blaming the, you know, trying to identify them as if he's right-wing. No, I think it's comical because what a shitty idea. He got in bad here, right? Like, you pay somebody. So you're out the money. You got the ass whooping and you didn't get the outcome that you wanted from all this. Oh, yeah.

Starting point is 00:13:03 It's a really your desire for soul. It's a really desired result, it's not a this whole process. That really, it's just completely backfire. And it's backfiring on the politicians who jumped on it. Because they jumped on it right away and they're like insinuating that this is the result of Trump's politics, right? What's so, and now they look bad. And all it does is feed into his whole fake news liberal.

Starting point is 00:13:24 And it devalues like real Problems out there like people like experiencing real like racist homophobic like beatings and things like you know And you're like just putting it out there and it's completely fake. It's terrible I think it's terrible But I think I'm hoping that them and I don't think they're gonna learn this lesson Now, but I want the media to be to slow down a little bit so that they don't jump all over, because this completely devalues. Yeah, these are your sources.

Starting point is 00:13:48 Yeah, completely. Let's get back to that. Yeah, and what's gonna end up happening is it's just when they do polls on people's trust of the media, it's like at all-time lows. I mean, all-time lows, people just don't trust or believe what they have to say, so it's an interesting time. I think it's like you said,

Starting point is 00:14:02 like I really do feel the sense of a dying animal, like the media that we've experienced forever and ever, they really have one card left in their sleeve to get attention. And it's to be as extreme and shock worthy as polarizing as possible to get your attention. Otherwise, we're all elsewhere. Like we're listening to rational people and podcasts or like internet streaming, TV shows,

Starting point is 00:14:31 we actually want to watch that aren't super biased. So in social media encourages some of this behavior a little bit because statistically speaking, people are far more likely to share absurd article titles that strengthen their own political belief. So the crazier and the worse it is, the more likely they are to share it, versus like feel good type stuff.

Starting point is 00:14:55 People are far less likely to share that kind of stuff. So it actually amplifies the problem even more. Now is he getting in trouble for any of this other than the backlash that he's feeling for? Oh dude, he's gonna get in trouble. He's gonna get you. Yeah, you got to get in trouble for this kind of shit That's why I'm wondering. Yeah, I don't know if legal trouble. I don't know about that But this has got to ruin his career. Yeah, I mean if you get proved if you literally paid people to beat you up So you could make up a story about what it how you that you were a victim of something it would piss off everybody

Starting point is 00:15:24 It would piss off everybody. It would piss off people on the right who are like, screw you for trying to blame us for something that you totally fabricated. And I think it would hurt people who've actually been victims of stuff like this. Of course, that's where I find the biggest harm in the whole thing.

Starting point is 00:15:40 Because it turns into the way that cried to whoof, it fucks everybody else. It's terrible. It's terrible. It's terrible. It's terrible. It know it fucks everybody else right it's terrible it's awful somebody really got you know beat up yeah and speaking of media so I read this article the other day I want to I forgot who sent it I want to say it was Enzo that sent this article it kids been doing a good job with some of these articles that he's been sending but I don't know this actually I kind of did know this but I know the details of it so did you

Starting point is 00:16:02 guys know that in a state of emergency, that the president has the unilateral power to control all, like 100% of all electronic communications? Wow, how? Well, so this happened. Is it like that emergency, like you get that buzz that happens every now and then when like a, you know, the flash flood flood or something happens like they have access to your phones

Starting point is 00:16:26 I got well it was it was right around I think it was 1941 or that this happened and they you know Roosevelt directed The government to be able to to be able to do this and so they had created there was something called the the defense communications board and it was this was created to So they had created, there was something called the Defense Communications Board, and it was, this was created to coordinate all communications in case of war or other national emergencies. And the FCC and the DCB, which is just mentioned the Defense Communication Board, they're empowered by something that was created in 1934 called the Communications Acts, which expressly gave the president full control over electronic transmissions under these circumstances.

Starting point is 00:17:09 Now here's the problem. The problem is that this is a power given to the president under threat of war or a state of public peril or disaster or other national emergency. Now, here's the problem with stuff like that, is we just saw Trump declare a state of national emergency to build the wall. Right. They pretty much can do that, like whenever they want.

Starting point is 00:17:34 And then it's later on that we might find it. Don't tell me, is it no all these loopholes? Yeah. It's just like, he's just waiting on those for an opportunity to use it. Yeah, so it's a little bit interesting, right? Like we give them the ability to discern, oh, this is an emergency, control everything,

Starting point is 00:17:51 all electronics, all, whatever. I thought that was fascinating. Do you know what, show, I just started watching. I think you mentioned this on the podcast a long time ago, and I just came of interest. No, the minute the minute the high tower, no, I haven't seen that. Oh, you haven't.

Starting point is 00:18:08 No. So it's this like this dystopian world that when World War II happened that the outcome was different, right? And so the United States is no only United States. It's half Japan and it's half Nazi. And then there's like a neutral ground in the middle half Japan and it's half Nazi. And then there's like a neutral ground in the middle where it's neither.

Starting point is 00:18:30 And so it's like what the world would have been like had the World War II when the outcome was different. And then that's what happened. It's actually really interesting. Oh wow. Yeah, so you see this socialist and communist, the world's living right next to each other on the same continent

Starting point is 00:18:45 and what that's like and then the people that are trying to escape and be free and all that. It's very well written. It's on Amazon Prime and I think it's on season two or three and I just found it. It's called men and men. Men and high tower. Maybe Doug can look at it. It's like the man in the high tower.

Starting point is 00:19:01 There you go. Thank you. The man in the high tower. So it's, I'm already like, I don't know, I want to say, I'm like six or seven episodes into it. It's got me, it's got me hooked on. Yeah, that's a trippy concept. Right, right.

Starting point is 00:19:12 So I think what happened is I think somebody said, oh, you should watch it. And it's definitely one of those shows that if you don't read the backstory, you're kind of a lot like, I come right into it and I was like, hella confused. Yeah, like what the fight, this was, and a lot like, I come right into it and I was like, hella confused. What's going on? Yeah, like what the fight this was,

Starting point is 00:19:26 and it was like that, not for me. But then when I read the backstory on the idea of like how they wrote, I was like, oh, that's actually really interesting. Like now I get what's going on. So I think when I went and watched it after I read about it, it made it way more entertaining to watch it. And now it's really, I'm really into it.

Starting point is 00:19:43 So, who's, have you guys been watching the Ted Bundy files on Netflix? No, I watched the first two. Dude, I did not know, so I'm not done with it. Yeah, and so the, for people who don't are familiar, it's, there was an investigative journalist who had access to Ted Bundy after he got caught and everything and charged.

Starting point is 00:20:06 And he got Ted Bundy to talk about all the murders and what happened and the way he did it is by getting Ted Bundy to talk about it in the third person. So after weeks of meeting with Ted, Ted Bundy didn't want to talk about the murders or whatever. And so finally he said, well, you know, any kind of play hypothetical. Well, he played to Ted Bundy's weakness, which he was an extreme narcissist. He was a terrible, terrible narcissist, which a lot of these sociopaths are.

Starting point is 00:20:33 They are just evil and terrible, but they want people to know how great they are. And they think that they're super awesome. And so he said to him, he says, you know, Ted, he goes, you're very intelligent person, you're very versed in psychology, you've studied psychology.

Starting point is 00:20:47 What do you think, if somebody did these things, could you explain what you think the psychology behind it all would be, and Ted just goes right into talking about it all, basically telling what happened, but under the guise of it being, oh, this is what I think, you know, they went through a lot of work. If you are liking that, you'll really like mind hunter. You need to watch mind hunting. Yeah, you told what I think, you know, they went through a lot of work. If you are liking that, you'll really like minehunter. You need to watch minehunter.

Starting point is 00:21:07 You've told me. Yeah, it's told me. Yeah, yeah, that's really good. Same thing with Jeffrey Dahmer too. Like, I watched a whole series back, you know, with that and they actually had a reporter interview him specifically and he was very open and honest about each one of his murders and like,

Starting point is 00:21:25 why, you know, he was compelled to do it the way he did it. Think about how crazy this is. I did not know this part right here. So I knew Ted Bundy was a serial killer, knew that part already. Did not know this. He gets caught, escapes, kills more people, gets caught again, escapes again, kills more people.

Starting point is 00:21:45 Then they catch him again. That's how fucking crazy he escaped twice in both times after escaping, couldn't control the urge and had to murder more people. One time, I think it was the second time he escaped. He goes to a sorority, with a fucking tree branch, murders four girls. With a branch. With a branch, murders four girls

Starting point is 00:22:05 with a branch. With a branch and then gets caught doing something else and it's insane. I did not know he escaped twice and killed more people. And it feels like there were, have there been serial killers a lot since then or was it like a phenomenon back then? It was kind of a,

Starting point is 00:22:21 because he was part of the group that started that. Like the serial, the 70 that, like the serial. The 70s, there was shiss. Serial killer didn't know and knew what a serial killer was before that. They were just unsolved, they were just unsolved murders. There was Jeffrey Dahmer, Ted Bundy, there was that, who's that guy that was a clown?

Starting point is 00:22:36 That was a child's clown and the. John Wayne, Gacy. Gacy was another guy. There was a Zodiac killer back then. They didn't know what they were before, and then they started, so mind hunter gets into kind of like that, like the evolution of the serial killer,

Starting point is 00:22:51 like what it was before, who was the first people to actually like say, hey, there's a possibility that all these unsolved murders that we don't know about actually are all connected. And when they piece that together, and the scary part about it, or what was really scary, especially probably back then, was the main way we caught murderers in the past

Starting point is 00:23:11 was the connection that they had with the people. It's like, I think, I think, right, I think like 80 or 90, a super high percentage of murders are somebody very closely related to that person, right? And there's a motive. You're right, and there's a motive. Right, and there's a motive where these serial killings have nothing to do with that. Like it's all about the narcissistic person

Starting point is 00:23:31 trying to fill this void. And so they go and they strategically murder random people that have no connection. And it's like, wow, imagine that time of being a cop and these murders are happening and then trying to figure that out. Well, so here's a part of the series that really blew my mind.

Starting point is 00:23:49 As I'm watching, there was one of the main investigators, the guy, I think it was the first guy that charged toned Bundy at this after they caught him after the second time he escaped. And they had evidence, enough evidence to go after him for two of the murders. And then there was a third one that had bite marks. So they're gonna do like a dental thing off in the sea.

Starting point is 00:24:05 So he tells Ted, he says, we have enough evidence now, because at this point, Ted's like, I'm not gonna, no one's, I'm innocent, you know, this is a waste of time or whatever. So this guy goes to him and says, look, we have evidence now to go after you for two of these murders.

Starting point is 00:24:20 And this will illustrate just how fucking narcissistic and crazy this man is. He says, I didn't do it, but when you find the man who did this, who you think that you think that I did, when you find that man, you're also gonna find that he killed women in the three digits, and he did it in six different states. Like, he's trying to brag.

Starting point is 00:24:40 He was trying to brag, but also not brag. You want him to know, like, I didn't just kill two. I killed a whole bunch. Crazy. Yeah, it's crazy that mindset. It was trying to brag but also not brag. You want him to know, I didn't just kill two. I killed a fucking whole bunch. Yeah, crazy. Yeah, it's crazy that mindset. They leave little traces because they do want you to, they want credit for it.

Starting point is 00:24:54 You know, and they have tokens and things that, you know, they'll leave it at crime scenes just so they can like leave their marker, so to speak. He went down as the biggest, right? Like what was his total? Oh, I don't know. I don't know if he was the biggest. I think he was.

Starting point is 00:25:07 Was he? I think so. I thought it was the someone strangler, the green, something strangler, we should find out. But there's, it's, so imagine this too. Imagine the fear where, this has never happened in my lifetime where, you know, you're looking at the news

Starting point is 00:25:23 and you're like oh serial killer on the loose in San Jose just killed four women is on the loose it's just on a killing spree right now so everybody watch out and never have your doors my mom. That's a weird could you imagine. Well my mom was like a kid right when the zodiac killer or where she was young right when the zodiac killer she said that was a really scary time yeah they were telling you stay indoors and stuff like that like cause they didn't know. They didn't want women walking like when it was dark out.

Starting point is 00:25:48 Right. You know, I mean, and imagine this, you hear in the news, oh Ted Bundy just escaped from jail. Please everybody be careful. Then the next day he killed four girls and dormant. I'm like, oh shit. Right. This is insane.

Starting point is 00:25:58 It's crazy. But you know what this reminds me of is because I think what ends up happening, I read this article on the psychology of some of this shit. And in this article, they said, you know, the more these things happen, the more likely they are to happen again. Because when you have these crazy sociopathic, yeah, narcissists, they see how much attention

Starting point is 00:26:19 that someone got, like Ted Bundy, and then that triggers them to go like like mass shooters or whatever. My fear was some of these series that are going ape shit on Netflix is it gonna trigger? Yeah, yeah, and they've been doing, I mean, all of them. Like they even had like Ted Kaczynski. Like I, that was a great series. That was a really good one.

Starting point is 00:26:36 Really good. Like because think about like to your point of like, well now it's so random. Like how the hell, like there's no way you could like tie all these things together to like pinpoint who has a motive to actually kill that person, you know, when it's that random, but, but you know, finding all these little things like I think they actually uncovered that one based off of like the letters that they're receiving. And then they had like a linguist come in there and find patterns that they could attribute to somebody. But it was just crazy. And it's fascinating more from the detective's perspective

Starting point is 00:27:13 of trying to put it all together. But yeah, there's that worry I have too, that this is just glorifying. Well, this is the argument that I always make when people make this argument of, when we have any topics and awareness. Like, oh, I think it's good that we talk about this to bring awareness to this.

Starting point is 00:27:32 And it's like, I don't know if I can get down with that all the time. Like, there's a lot of things that happen in this country that I think a lot of people are fully aware of. And sometimes I think all the efforts to try and quote unquote bring awareness to it Bring so much awareness to it that it attracts more of it. Especially the crazy shit Like the like the school shooters and stuff like that like I feel like

Starting point is 00:27:54 That that could trigger some crazy Fucker to think. Oh, this is a great way to get a I even think it in some of the things that I think are sensitive to talk about like Racism and sexism and things like that, that people are like, you know, it's still going on and we need to bring awareness to it. I'm like, you know, I don't know if that helps that much. I really don't. I don't know if more people need to be more aware of it. If that's actually helping the cause, and I know I always fucking trigger people when I say that. And I'm not saying that it isn't. I'm just saying that that's how my brain works.

Starting point is 00:28:25 I go, well, you know, if you got a thousand people that weren't even thinking that, and now you make them aware of it, and they're not smart enough to do their own homework and research, then you automatically divide them on one side or the other, and we see this in politics all the time. I could see some truth in that.

Starting point is 00:28:41 Like I could see how if you're, you've never experienced something outwardly towards yourself and now you're hearing about all the stuff that's happening all the time, you may be more so vigilant that you may see things that are happening that may not be happening or you may think like the actor that there's a lot of virtue in being a victim and there's a lot of power in being a victim. So you're actually going to go and make yourself a victim to get that attention, to get people to look at you.

Starting point is 00:29:11 Because the end of the day, his thought process is like, if I pull this off, I'm gonna be a hero, right? Because now I'm stuffing this side. It's gonna put a big massive black eye on their cause or whatever along the right side or the extremists on this end of it. But you know, then again, like once it gets foiled like that, now it looks like even worse, you just did more damage.

Starting point is 00:29:35 Well, especially when you look at things statistically that are potentially improving, but then when you bring more awareness to it, like it's not, like if you look at something that we're like hate crimes, for example, like, you know, something that's that we're improving upon every single day and then you all said and start making, you start pointing out all the scenarios all over the country, like, oh, one happened over here and one happened over here.

Starting point is 00:29:56 And then you make it sound like it's happening all the time when in reality, if you compared it to five years, 10 years, 20 years, 30 years ago, it's been getting better, better and better. And now you have people who have never been impacted by any sort of hate crime whatsoever, talking about it and picketing about it and making a big deal about it. And it's just like, no, there's, I guess there's some truth to that. Look, when there was an interesting study that I learned years ago, you guys remember

Starting point is 00:30:20 the movie Jaws, right? So Jaws for listeners, the movie about Shark Attack. It was a, got a lot of publicity, a lot of people was a horror film. And when that movie came out, the public perception of shark attacks went through the roof. Now, the reason why that happened was because people saw that movie, newspapers started publishing when a shark attack would happen.

Starting point is 00:30:43 And people started freaking out. And their perception hyper-aware. Yeah happen and people started freaking out and they're Perception hyper-aware. Yeah, and people thought oh shit shark attacks are going through the roof The reality is shark attacks are extremely consistent all the time There had been no changes, but people have perceived there to be So many more shark attacks because of the movie jaws and because of the the media then started to Present to us. Because again, our brains evolved with limited communication. We evolved for most time in tribes.

Starting point is 00:31:11 And so if you heard bad news, the odds were the bad news was from someone that you lived with that was near you that you knew. And it was important to know because shit, someone got kidnapped and it happened in my tribe. And that means it's close by. So our brains have a tough time deciphering that versus someone got, we live in a country of 300 million people, a girl got kidnapped and michigan, my brains perceiving it as fuck,

Starting point is 00:31:35 it's the same things that's happened in my neighborhood. Not to mention that bringing awareness to it doesn't necessarily eliminate it. That's not, and I think that's the idea and what people are trying to do. Like, oh, let's make more people aware of it so we can eliminate, but the reality of it is,

Starting point is 00:31:50 we'll never eliminate all of it. They'll always be hate. They'll always be racism. They'll always be sexism. And it's because of the way the brain operates. There's nothing that I can do about this person who lives all the way across the country who has met five people of a race, of a sex,

Starting point is 00:32:08 of whatever, of any sort of creed that they've met and there are five encounters were bad for whatever reason. Bad luck, they were assholes, doesn't matter but they had five, but now what's happened is they have now solidified that in their brain and so and the way the brain operates is it predicts on past past encounters that it's had. It doesn't, you can't eliminate that.

Starting point is 00:32:32 You can become more aware of that as a person like, hey asshole, that's just because that's your experience. It doesn't mean it's experienced for everybody else. But let's be honest, the IQ level of us as a nation, there's some people just are too stupid. You're gonna, if you're, that takes all the work for individual to do. Stupidity and bad things that have happened to you

Starting point is 00:32:53 in your life will result in potential hate and racism and sexism for the rest of your life. Well, the best way to combat that is to have more experiences in the positive with that type of situation. So which is why if you are in an area where you encounter more diversity and you have better outcomes because of that, you're less likely to stereotype people because, oh, you know, although I got attacked by four guys with, you know, blue jeans on in the past,

Starting point is 00:33:26 I've also met thousands of people with blue jeans on that are really cool with me or whatever, because I live in a town that exposes me to that type of stuff. So that's one of the best things you could do. But the fact is though, that you can't stop the brain from still stereotyping. It'll still, until you outnumber that, right? Until you have more good experiences with blue jeans

Starting point is 00:33:46 than with bad blue jeans, the brain will still go to the side that it knows. It's just natural to be sure. Now, it's up to us as good humans to behave accordingly afterwards and not react to that, not to go slap a person in blue jeans just because the five other times you've met somebody in blue jeans you've had a bad experience,

Starting point is 00:34:05 it's just that you have to become aware of that, but you'll never change that. You can't change until you have more experiences that are positive to outweigh the negative. Society's interesting that regular butts drive me nuts. We can say what? Sorry.

Starting point is 00:34:19 We can, you know, we can, and we have done this, make some things less acceptable to say or less acceptable to do. There's certain words that were common, you know, when we were kids that you don't really say today anymore, does that really change the sentiment or is it a reflection of a changing sentiment?

Starting point is 00:34:38 Does that make sense? Like, for example, there were derogatory terms when we were kids that were used, that were homosexual. And we would say that, and we didn't say that because we meant some was homosexual, it was just a word that we used. Like the word gay, for example, when I was a kid, got so guys, and girls, everybody said,

Starting point is 00:34:56 if something was like, oh, those are gay shoes. Like, didn't mean that they were homosexual, just meant that your shoes were dumb or whatever. Today, that's a term that you don't really use anymore in that way because it's really, really frowned upon. I don't think that is what changed the sentiment. I think it's the sentiment that changed that. As homosexuality become more ingrained in normal society

Starting point is 00:35:17 as people became more accepting and tolerant, I think more and more people are like, eh, it's probably not cool if we say that. So I think that the awareness itself might be more of a reflection of the sentiment. Does that make sense? Like we talk about like sexist remarks. I think in the past, we would say things and get away with them. And today, I don't think it's necessarily that we're just trying to change the word to

Starting point is 00:35:40 change the action. I think the actions are more frowned upon. And so it's the words that start to change the word to change the action. I think the actions are more frowned upon, and so it's the words that start to change to reflect that. In my opinion, I think I feel like that's why it moves in that direction. Although there are times when it's literally a political play, or it's something that they've designed

Starting point is 00:35:58 to separate. For example, when I don't remember what year it was, maybe Doug can find out when Jesse Jackson ran for president, but he was largely being credited as the one to get, when you're talking about a black person is saying black, he got it that that became a bad thing to say and you had to say African-American. He was one of the guys that kind of changed that. So it wasn't necessarily something that society changed. It was because he said it, so now everybody's going to start saying that when,

Starting point is 00:36:27 really, it doesn't, you know, today, it doesn't, either one, I guess, is okay. Yeah, yeah. But it is interesting. I think a lot of times, these movements and the words and the things that we need to change and the awareness, I think it's more really a reflection of changing attitude and, and, and, and sent it in. Oh, he was a, he was a presidential nomination in 1984 and 1984. So I think it was 1984 that he might have done that. So anyway, interesting. Anyway, not to change the subject, but I want to mention Justin's beard. He's getting a little long now.

Starting point is 00:36:56 But it's your first time. It's the loser worthy at this point, right? Are you, are you, are you allowed to keep growing here? Because we've had this in the past where this gets, uh, you know, X-Nade. I've know, X-Nade. I've figured that X-Nade for the Pune. Yes, since I've been all herped out as of late, you know. Oh wow. I might as well hide it with my beard ashamed.

Starting point is 00:37:15 Wow. So, you're like, I'm not getting kisses anyway. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, so I mean, I'll probably get back to the trimming. Now that everything's coming back to normal and you know, I got a nice haircut Do you it doesn't look bad dude with your glory your glory? Close you got the beard going on tough. I'm gonna be honest, you know, it's good. It's a good solid like look

Starting point is 00:37:35 You have a good beard line, too. Did you see speaking of the or he did you see his his cholo pants that they actually you started making for you? I like them dude. I'm so happy. I want more color options, Viori. You know, like, let's make this a thing. Like, everybody else out there that grew up like me that wore the chinos. You had the, you know, the flannel, like the dickies yet. Like, dude, like, this is coming back. Aren't they called, what do they call it?

Starting point is 00:37:59 They were called dickies back the day. No, no, no, what are the Viori ones called? Yeah, they're Chino pants. Yeah, they actually called them, they call them Chino pants, which is great. I should have got a pair of those, because I got the other ones. Well, they're flexible too, which is rad,

Starting point is 00:38:11 because now I can, I mean, it's not like, because the other ones were more like a really, almost like the crease was all the way down, and it was like this paper, like real hard kind of material, but these are like real flexible and breathable. So it has the look of like the dickies, but not the, like, I used to wear dickies way back in the days too. Did you really?

Starting point is 00:38:32 Yeah, yeah. And I still got some of my drawers for sure. I have some dickies shorts that I have. I still pull those out every now and then. I like, when that, nothing like a pair of dickies that have been broken in, but it takes like four years of like washing. Oh, yeah.

Starting point is 00:38:44 Because they're like, they don't relax. Yeah, they're just like, they're like plaster. But once you've got about a hundred washes in and then they're all broken in, I love them. So when I was in high school, the only people that wore dicks were skaters. Yeah. Or like if you were cholo, like cholo skaters,

Starting point is 00:39:00 were the only people that would wear dicks? Was it like that with you guys? Well, yeah, night, it's funny because I kind of posted some picture of myself skateboarding as like I was terrible at skateboard. I knew it. I didn't last for very long, and so people were calling me a poser and stuff.

Starting point is 00:39:16 I'm like, yeah, I was totally opposed. Oh, that was a good movie post that I was trying. You were off, way off your board. I was, I ate shit quite a bit. You know, like, asphalt, like if you're a real skateboarder you're gonna like get hurt a lot. Now were you made fun of because you wore a helmet because I know in those days nobody wore a helmet

Starting point is 00:39:32 to skate. Yeah, yeah. When you had a big ass red. I didn't even remember that. Like I was anti-elf- Like a mo-ped helmet. Bro it looked like a space ball. Remember space balls?

Starting point is 00:39:40 The big black helmets they wore. It's like you just got off your mo-ped. Bro it was like the Honda 90. Like my dad had one got off your moped. It's like the Honda 90. Like my dad had one of those, yeah, one of those motorcycles. Like the Honda 90, it's like just like, basically an upgrade from a moped. But yeah, I would ride that around the neighborhood and stuff.

Starting point is 00:39:55 So just for the audience, it's a super round. It's perfectly circular, like a big bubble round. Like cherry red. And it was the kind of red that you see at the carnival on the carnival car. Or the bowling bowling bag. Yeah, I look like a bowling ball. I look like a candy apple.

Starting point is 00:40:10 Yeah, like what is that red? It's got like a weird little metal flakes in it. Yeah, like a weird shimmer to it. Looks like it's a deep like. I think they call it candy apple red. They don't think the apple red. Yeah, I think they call it that. It's hot rod paint.

Starting point is 00:40:21 Yeah. How old were you in the picture? I was like 11 it that. It's hot rod paint. Yeah. How old were you in the picture? I was like 11, 12. 12. Okay, so you're 11 years old just to give it, just a good example of the size of your noggin. You're 11 years old, you're wearing your dad's motorcycle helmet? I had to have a dome, bro, like ever forever.

Starting point is 00:40:38 I feel bad for my mom, you know. You're a fucking bubble head. I've been perfectly, I had a massive cabeza. Your dad's like, you're smiling, It might be a little tight. Yeah. I don't even have much hair either. Just all hand. I got to go. I got to go through some, you know, I, I've got my, my 20 year reunion this year. And are you going? Yeah, I'm going to go. Good. You should. Yeah, I, I, I plan on going. Is it, is it going to be a barn? I don't even know. Like, I know you went to the...

Starting point is 00:41:06 I just, fuck off. You have a milk churning party here. I just added myself to the reunion private Facebook group or whatever. So I don't think they have announced an official date. I think it's in September, but they don't have the actual date and location yet. And I know they're starting to round up people donating food and drink and all the shit

Starting point is 00:41:28 that's going to be there. So I don't know. I do. I've never been to a reunion. I didn't go to any any other one. I didn't want to go to a five or a 10 or anything like that. But I thought, 20 years is a long time. And there's quite a few people that I'm still friends with.

Starting point is 00:41:42 And we just haven't got together in the last probably five years So just going there for the excuse to connect with all them. I think it's gonna be really cool But I've got a whole are there anybody in particular that you want to see Like was there like a hot girl that you just totally disconnected with and you just want to see what she looks like no I I How do I say that without something? I want to look at the whole. I was the whole one.

Starting point is 00:42:06 No, no, no, no, no. I mean, I see B. I dated. I dated. I dated the hot chicks, right? So I still, I mean, I don't like talk to them, but I'm connected to them on Instagram. Most all of them are actually all married in two, three, four kids, some four kids. So, and I see what they look like on Instagram.

Starting point is 00:42:27 So I'm not... So no surprises. Yeah, there's nothing like that. I'm actually more excited about... There's a group of us, about 20, deep that were really close in high school. We were all athletes, all basketball, soccer, and football players.

Starting point is 00:42:42 And some of us... I think some of us have all stayed connected to three or four of them, really, really tight. Within the group of 20, there's a bunch of triplets, groups. And so there's three or four of my buddies that I've stayed really, really close to that I still talk to on a regular basis. But all of us being back together, and I've got a picture.

Starting point is 00:43:04 I'll try and remember to post it. I'm going to, I'm going to dig out a bunch of old high school stuff since I have a bunch of photos from there, and I'll post some funny shit on my story. But, you know, there's a picture of us out in the quad at high school, and there's probably 30, you know, and it's all, all of us friends and some of the cheerleaders and they're all there together. And so I'm like, I'm like, I would love to like reenact that picture. Like it's, because we were all so close in high school and I think a lot of those people will still be back. So I'm excited about that.

Starting point is 00:43:33 You know, reunions, it's fun, you just highlighted something like because of social media, you know what people look like and what they're doing nowadays, if you really want it. No, it wasn't like that before where you literally were surprised. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it was like a total shock. I went to my 10 year and social media wasn't quite as predominant as it is now. And so, yeah, that definitely, I had some of that.

Starting point is 00:43:57 I had kind of kept up a little bit on some of my more close friends and some people I knew that were still in the area, but there were some people that came from New York, from Europe, and you know, I hadn't seen them literally since probably, yeah, like senior year in high school, and it was a shock. And it's great though. I mean, it's, sometimes it's a shock that's good. Like I saw this one girl that's a man,

Starting point is 00:44:27 she had a transformation that was just stunning. And I was just, I had the complimentary, you know, and it's like, wow, you know, like I've, you know, you look great and there's stuff like that, but for the most part it was pretty depressing. Like you just see people here like, okay, man. I'm curious to what it is. Like yourself go, what everybody's doing work wise, you know,

Starting point is 00:44:45 like so I can see on Instagram, like what you look like, but I'm curious like where everybody is at in their lives, like what avenues do they pursue? Cause I remember all their personalities in high school and so to be interesting to see, you know, which direction they all went. Interesting. Yeah, I wanna see, it's fun to see people

Starting point is 00:45:01 that are killing it in like directions and that you would it in directions. That you would have never guessed. Yeah, professions that you're like, Oh, wow, I didn't even know you were that smart or crazy in that direction. I found that I noticed that even well before the 20, like around five and 10 even,

Starting point is 00:45:17 the most popular athletes, kids, and girls, everything flipped. So they peaked in high school. Yeah, right. Exactly. They peaked kind of in high school. And the ones that ended up blossoming into this, like, gorgeous girl was the girl who sat in the back of the class and you never talked to her.

Starting point is 00:45:36 You know, she glasses on her hair and pigtails and she like that. You didn't pay no attention to her. And then like when she hit 25, she like blossomed into this dime piece. Like, so I saw a lot of that happen after. And then I like a lot of the badass, you know, quarterback or stud player that was, you know, the prom king or whatever like that. He, you know, those guys ended up getting slapped. I'm going to go.

Starting point is 00:45:57 Yeah, sloppy as fuck and working at some whatever. Yeah, it's at the front desk. Yeah, yeah. So it's it's it's pretty interesting to see that. I mean, I think that's like the best advice I have for like young kids. I don't know how many of you have that actually listen to us that are in high school. It's like, man, I would not worry about where my place was at in high school because so much changes later on.

Starting point is 00:46:21 And you know, the kids that actually buckle down and probably worked hard at school and got into a good college and then kept going in that direction. Most of the one you paid no attention to are doing big things now in their 30s. I wonder how many people go to that who are recently, like, because this is your 20 year, right? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:46:38 So I wonder how many recently divorced people are going there and like, I hope I meet like, ooh, I wonder if Johnny likes to try to hook up. Yeah, so I definitely know quite a few people that, we had just in our own little group. Quite a few people that got married or had kids really quick, you know, 20 to 25 range. And I remember thinking like, damn,

Starting point is 00:46:56 they're already settling down. Most all of them that did that early are on marriage too and on new kids. You know what I'm saying? Like a lot of them are already divorced and remarried. Growing up in a minivan. Yeah, you'll see how many minifights I've had to forget. Exactly. by Max and Obolic! If you're looking to maximize your overall muscle and strength, Max and Obolic is the perfect place to start! With a full 30-day money back guarantee,

Starting point is 00:47:29 there is absolutely zero risk! So what is your waiting for? Go to mindpromedia.com and get started today! It's the motherfucking vlog! An eagle has landed! Quikwa. First question is from R2 Herzog. How much time have you guys spent doing CrossFit? You don't seem to like it, but most of your comments sound like most of the naysayers who haven't actually done it.

Starting point is 00:47:55 Yeah, well, I haven't shot myself in the face. Hey, you're gonna hate. I know what that's gonna feel like. Yeah. You know, I'll speak for myself personally. I'm a big-headed drawer. Yeah, you've never done that, right? How do you know you don't like it? Yeah. You know, I'll speak for myself personally. I'm a big-headed drawer. Yeah, you've never done that, right? How do you know you don't like it?

Starting point is 00:48:08 I don't know, I might. I'll speak just for myself. I have a lot of experience in fitness industry. I have a lot of experience training everyday people, okay? So I'm not talking about myself in terms of how I would like it or I wouldn't like it. I'm talking about in terms of how the CrossFit style of programming, especially in the earlier days, how that would apply to the average person.

Starting point is 00:48:31 And I don't need to try it. I can see it. I can look at it. I know what their main goals are with it. I see how they inject exercises into circuits that should never be in circuits. I see how it's a intensity at all cost-focused type of mentality in a lot of these boxes, especially early on. And I see how it's a intensity at all cost focused type of mentality and a lot of these boxes, especially early on. And I see that it's just not good. It's not good. It's going to promote a lot of overtraining overwork. It's going to, you know, the injury rate will probably be

Starting point is 00:48:55 high. And their exercise programming isn't that great. So I really don't need to fucking try it. I'm kind of an expert in fitness. Really, that's the only area that I would say. I have an opinion on everything, but the one area I could say pretty confidently that I feel like I have a decent amount of authority is an exercise and workout program. I've been training people for a long time, so I don't need to do a bunch of it. I did it.

Starting point is 00:49:19 I did it long before it was cool. I remember when we were doing it over at my gym, I remember when I introduced it to Justin. It was fucking 12 years ago. It was long time ago when we did it before. It was popular and it was underground and there was just up in Santa Cruz. Yeah, and it was a very, very small thing and I remember when I caught wind of it and a couple of us decided to start running some of the routines. I was the original frowning, right? Yeah, before him, whatever. So yeah, no, I was, here's the thing, if you do it

Starting point is 00:49:51 and you like it and it works for you, I'm, do it. I'm cool, you know, it's a sport though. It's not, it's not a training modality and they've done a really, they've done a really good job of trying to present it to the masses and it just doesn't belong there. No different than any other sport belongs as the main modality of getting that average person in shape. So I would never tell somebody all the clients, not a single one of them I've ever trained would I say, hey CrossFit is good for you.

Starting point is 00:50:21 Now if someone came to me and they're like, Adam, I don't have specific goals. I want to be healthy. I love this sport CrossFit they're doing. I enjoy it. I'm having a great time with it. And I'm staying in great shape. It keeps me in check.

Starting point is 00:50:36 I love the community. I love this. Do you think it's bad that I'm doing it? I would say no. Great. Keep doing it. If you're just keeping you where you want to be, you enjoy doing it. There's nothing wrong with it for that.

Starting point is 00:50:47 But you gotta understand where we come from. And I apologize for the audience that's heard us talk about CrossFit fucking so many times. I mean, obviously this is somebody who's just tuning in the show and hearing a few things that we've said about it, but we've gone very deep on why all of us don't like CrossFit, and it's not that we don't like CrossFit,

Starting point is 00:51:09 like it's like I don't like Soccer, you know, it's, I think it has a place here. I think that there's, I think it's a great sport, it's fun to watch, it's competitive, but I don't think that it is ideal for more than 80 to 90% of the population that's trying to get in shape. That's all. It's for the people that love the sport of it,

Starting point is 00:51:29 have good mechanics, train well. That's not a healthy practice. No, you can't argue that to me. Like, it's not. And so for me too, and I have to be somewhat objective because I've given it the most criticism. And mainly because growing up in sports and recognizing exactly what it is.

Starting point is 00:51:48 So for me bashing my head against other helmets in a game setting where I really enjoy that. I love tackling people and I love hitting people's hard as I can, but I also recognize that's not really that healthy for my body. And it's something that I enjoy and I look forward to it and I trained to lead into a game to where that was something that I knew I was like,

Starting point is 00:52:17 of testing my body on all kinds of different levels, but it was damaging to my body at the same time. And I knew that. People don't think of CrossFit like that, and that's what irritates me. It's also counter the message that at this point in my career, I had figured out was not the right message for most people. It feeds into the no days off, balls out, go to failure type of mentality, and that's not ideal for most people. And the people that it tends to attract are the competitive minded type A type of personality. And what it took me years and years of putting this together is those people are the worst people

Starting point is 00:52:58 to be doing that type of training. They don't, they have so much stress in their life, they got so much broken down, so training Olympic lives and training at high intensity is not ideal for that person. That person has so much to fix, not just in the way they move, but then also in the rest of their life, they're stressed and they're sleep and promoting this competitive environment for working out is just not ideal for most people. That's all it is. And if you're somebody who's listening and it's ideal for you, then that's awesome. It's good.

Starting point is 00:53:36 Keep doing it. When you're doing exercises, form makes a big difference. And different exercises, it makes a bigger difference than other exercises. And with some movements, form is extremely important. Extremely important. For example, a barbell squat, it's more important to have really, really good form with a barbell squat

Starting point is 00:53:56 than it would with a barbell curl. You're gonna get more out of good form with a squat, and the risk of injuries much higher if your form is kind of off. And Olympic lifts are at the pinnacle of that. Olympic lifts, there's a very thin line between safe and non-safe with Olympic lifts. So if your form is perfect, they're safe. You got good mobility, good control, good stability, safe movements, but the second your

Starting point is 00:54:21 form deviates just a little bit, those exercises very quickly become quite dangerous. And they're the movements at the very top of the list of that, you know, high risk with slight deviation in form. They're just at the top. And the worst thing you could do with movements like that is A, take people who are everyday people and tell them, hey, practice this exercise without giving them a long time of prepping and training and mobility work leading up to it, and two, making them do it for speed

Starting point is 00:54:51 and time. That's the guaranteed way to make your form go out the window. Like, look, I don't care what you do. Think of something that you do very well. So I don't know. Let's say you do, I don't care. Let's say you're really good at crocheting. You crochet the greatest blankets ever,

Starting point is 00:55:05 and you got really good technique. If I timed you and made you do it really fast, your skill level or your technique would diminish. To diminish. Anything you do for time and speed diminishes. Now let's throw a fatigue on top of it. So not only are you doing it for speed and time, but now you're doing it to fatigue,

Starting point is 00:55:22 and when you get tired, good luck trying to maintain anything that's, you know, any semblance of good form. And so that's just the mix, that's the mix that CrossFit puts together with a lot of their workouts and wads is speed, time, how many reps you could do, the throw fatigue at it.

Starting point is 00:55:39 Oh, and we're not going to eliminate exercises that are extremely dangerous when form is deviated a little bit. Actually, in fact, we're going to make that the cornerstone of these workouts. not gonna eliminate exercises that are extremely dangerous when form is deviated a little bit. Actually, in fact, we're gonna make that the cornerstone of these workouts. It's a bad combination. Now, for a sport, it's awesome because it's challenging, it's different.

Starting point is 00:55:56 It's competitive. It's competitive, but as a workout, terrible. It's a terrible workout, it's a terrible sign. It's really just like crocheting, except you're stabbing yourself with those needles. Next question is from Andreas I.M. Is there a practical reason power lifters tend to be higher in body fat?

Starting point is 00:56:16 Yeah. Yeah, long rest periods. Long rest periods, low reps. Yeah. No, you know, when is there a practical reason, meaning is there a benefit, like, are they benefiting from having higher body temperature? I think it's just like having more mass to, to throw around. Yeah, I mean, the two things I can think of are a calorie surplus.

Starting point is 00:56:37 And two stores. And two stores. And two stores. And two stores. Makes you stronger, typically. So if you're in a, in a calorie surplus, versus in calorie maintenance, versus calorie deficit, you're in a calorie surplus versus in calorie maintenance versus calorie deficit, you're going to be stronger. You've just your body's got more energy to expend. It tends to, not always, as you get really fat, this actually messes up your hormones,

Starting point is 00:56:56 but up to a certain level, probably will improve anabolic hormones. Central nervous system output is probably going to be higher. Leverage can benefit being heavier on certain lifts, like squatting. As your midsection gets bigger, especially if you wear a weight belt, you tend to feel more stable when you squat really heavy versus when you have a really small tight waist, you know, it just doesn't feel stable. Deadlifting it does kind of hurt though. Bench pressing it helps to be bigger and heavier, so it improves your leverage there. And the other thing is this, power lift,

Starting point is 00:57:27 there's just don't have to look any particular way. So I think I wanna get stronger, nobody gives a shit, how I look. It all, it kind of feeds into the excuse of like, well, I guess I'm skinny as much as I possibly can and just push, even if I only gain one pound on my lift, but I gain 10 pounds on the scale. Right, it doesn't matter.

Starting point is 00:57:43 So I think that's where a lot of that comes from. No, I agree, but I think that pound for pound,. Right. It doesn't matter. So I think that's where a lot of that comes from. No, I agree. But I think that pound for pound, when you look at some of the strongest guys and girls, I think like in a good example, someone who does it better or right is Ben Pollock. Like there's an example of somebody who doesn't carry his body fat really.

Starting point is 00:57:58 So he carries it, he's lean pretty much year round. He lets himself eat a surplus when he needs it to promote better lifts, but he doesn't carry a bunch of extra body fat. I think it can hinder you if you were to carry too much. I think to your point, Sal, it's more so that it doesn't matter. If you come to a show and you're squatting or deadlifting,

Starting point is 00:58:22 it doesn't matter if you're 15% body fat or 30% body fat, it's just can you get the bar up? Now, in the other thing too, is the weight classes. So in the weight classes in powerlifting, they give you a little bit of a range, I don't know what the range is, but I think it's like 15, 20 pounds, maybe a little less. And so let's say, and I'm making up these,

Starting point is 00:58:41 these are not the actual weight classes, but let's say I'm entering into a competition where the two weight classes are up to 180 or up to 195. And I'm in between them kind of. It might be beneficial for me to go ahead and push my weight and be at the heaviest at the higher weight class than to have trying to cut to make it to the lower weight class just from a strength perspective. And with lifters, a smart lifter will do is they

Starting point is 00:59:10 weigh that all out. So they'll look at, okay, how much the lifters lift and this weight class am I better off trying to push into that and gain weight into it or am I better off cutting myself down and being lighter but in competing with people who are lighter. So these are all things that we, you know, but there's a stereotype, right? That power lifters are fat.

Starting point is 00:59:29 They just want to be strong. They don't need to be agile. So, yeah, I think it's really more about that, about eliminating a variable that you really have to pay a lot of attention to in like time and commitment towards them. And so I think that the focus being around, mainly their mechanics, their lifts, their practicing the movements, and just eating for fueling their energy. And so like feeling out their energy,

Starting point is 00:59:59 I don't think they put too many parameters around, like staying lean, but then also like, you know, fueling themselves properly going into like performing at their optimal amount like through nutrition. I just don't think the nutrition piece is highlighted very often. They don't, they don't, power lifters do not focus on nutrition,

Starting point is 01:00:18 not even in the same universe in terms of how bodybuilders do. They probably even focus more on like smelling salts than they do nutrition. It's about, you know, they'll look at their grams of protein, they'll look at calories, I need more calories, they'll look at their weight, but they're not sitting there and, you know, scrutinizing every single thing they put in their mouth.

Starting point is 01:00:37 For the Bose part. I mean, that's, yeah, general. It was exceptions to the whole of generalization. Like a Ben Paul, because it's an exception to that. I mean, he carries his food around, just like a bodybuilder, and weighs him, measures everything's an exception to that. I mean, he carries his food around just like a bodybuilder and weighs and measures everything. Which I think to, you know, to that point,

Starting point is 01:00:48 they could do a bit like, it could benefit them if they really did like highlight that as another variable. This is why it's great for strength athletes to cross pollinate. Yeah. I think there's a lot of things that bodybuilder, we talk about all the time,

Starting point is 01:01:01 how much bodybuilders can learn. How much bodybuilders can learn. Absolutely. I think PowerLift just can also learn a few things from, you know, from bodybuilders can learn. I can learn. Absolutely. I think powerlifts is gonna also learn a few things from bodybuilders. You know what I've been noticing? I don't know if you guys have noticed this recently, but there seems to be a growing trend of girls entering

Starting point is 01:01:16 into powerlifting. For a while there was bikini and whatever. And I'm gonna say too, yeah. Now girls are entering into powerlifting. How do you guys feel about that? I love it. I love it. I love it. I think that we're getting rid of this idea that weights make you bulky and look like a

Starting point is 01:01:33 man. And I think more and more girls are becoming aware of the benefits of lifting heavy-ass weight when it comes to building and sculpting the body. And then also being also comfortable and okay with owning what your body looks like and being proud of being a strong woman. And you don't have to be this skinny looking anorexic model on a cover of a magazine. And so I think that's also becoming more popular.

Starting point is 01:01:55 So I think the combination of those things is what's driving that. And that's another awesome empowering tool. It's something that I think it's great women learn some of those techniques and That they they're more capable than they probably realize, you know to lift heavy weights I love men I think it's one of the most attractive things in the gym is to see a woman lift heavy ass dead left

Starting point is 01:02:17 Or squat yeah with good mechanics. I always get my attention I think it's really ever like not walk over and say. If I see a girl that's pulling really good weight or squatting and with really good mechanics. Oh, it's awesome. I think it's a great thing because I think powerlifting changes the focus from what a lot of the female, the reason why a lot of women get into workin' out is to change how they look,

Starting point is 01:02:41 but a lot of the common sports that they'll enter that revolve weight training are like bikini and stuff like that, which makes you focus heavily, heavily on how you look, and you gotta look a certain way and be certain leanness or whatever. Powerlifting's awesome, because it takes that to focus off that, and it's all about how much you can lift,

Starting point is 01:02:58 which means you gotta eat more. You can't starve yourself, you gotta feed yourself more. Well, I think it's cool, also like why I think we highlight different attributes and different pursuits a lot with our maps programs and things. Why we want people to try these other avenues out is because it carries over into if I do want to look more aesthetically pleasing. Like that still will help aid in building a stronger base to build off. Well, I was talking to somebody on Instagram a while ago and she was asking about what, if I thought it was a good idea, she competes in bikini, but then also competes

Starting point is 01:03:35 in powerlifting and not at the same exact time, but she'll do bikini. And I thought it was a great idea. I thought to myself, what a great, if you're competitive minded and you need to sign up for something to have that goal or whatever, what a great way if you're competitive minded and you need to sign up for something to have that goal or whatever, what a great way to kind of negate the negative potential negative effects

Starting point is 01:03:49 from bikini competition. What a great way to learn how to reverse diet, focus on strength, rebuild your metabolism by doing a powerlifting show in between bikini competitions. And it'll benefit the bikini competitions because now you're going in with more muscle, faster metabolism, you're not sitting there, you know, I think, now of course it could go negative,

Starting point is 01:04:09 you could do the whole binge and cut type of thing, but I thought it was a good, I thought, I think it's a good thing, I'm really excited. It's a great thing, I actually know two girls that I was actually just trying to look at their Instagram so I could share it. Amanda, I think Amanda Chu is her name and she's a pro bikini athlete. And

Starting point is 01:04:26 she also competes in powerlifting. And then the other one was Tina Trong. I knew both of them. They were competing the same time I was. I believe Amanda still competes, but not Tina, but they both incredible bodies, incredible physiques. And they also, they would powerlif, they would flip, flop back and forth, so they would train for a bikini show and they'd do a power lift. I don't you feel like that will keep you help mitigate the negative that come from just bikini.

Starting point is 01:04:53 Well, I'm not only that, just to just help the problem with bodybuilders, and that's including bikini athletes. So the problem with bikini athletes and bodybuilders, for sure they're listening to this, it is very, very rare. I see them lifting singles doubles and triples. I just don't see it. Still.

Starting point is 01:05:10 There's don't train for that kind of performance. They don't train. They just have decided in their head that's more in the powerlifting area. It doesn't benefit me as much as training in the six to eight rep range or eight to 12 or 1215 or super setting everything. So body builders, including women's bikini athletes, all tend to weigh heavy on the high rep still and super setting. And even if they listen to my pump and they started to lift somewhat heavier weight, you still rarely see singles doubles and triples unless you're somebody who's getting training for powerlifting. And so I think that that's the real benefit is you,

Starting point is 01:05:45 if you do something like that, if you're following a Jordan shallow or a Ben Pollock's program for getting ready for a competitive powerlifting show, I mean, man, the amount of muscle that you're going to build during that time, especially if you come from the bodybuilding world, I think it'll blow most men and women away.

Starting point is 01:06:06 Well, you'll find the comments we get, the most positive comments from people who do maps and a ball like, are these competitors who never train in that phase one style training? Yeah. And they're all blown away. It was the thing, I mean, we talked, you know, those that have been listening since day one, know that I shared this on the show. It was a game changer for me. Because I was that, like the reason why I speak so passionately about it is I fell right in the camp too. I was the same way.

Starting point is 01:06:29 I never, if the low reps for me meant five or six reps, like that's the bottom, like I would ever, and that was rare that I would even do that. So when I really got into trying to increase my deadlift, my squat, and I wasn't so focused on how I looked. As a byproduct, I ended up building this impressive back that I'd worked so hard for so many years doing all these isolation moves

Starting point is 01:06:53 and doing all these eight to 15 to 20 reps. And man, my doing dropping down to single, heavy, deads, and squats, whoa. It's also the psychology changes. I think the big thing, like if your focus is aesthetic and then you move to a performance based focus, I think that can facilitate more of a healthy outlook on exercise, you know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 01:07:17 Because now your eyes are off of the aesthetics and you're really just focused on performance. You're not identifying with one of the other. That's 100% agree with. I love that. And I love balancing around like that. And I highly encourage anybody listening to the show that if you've ran one of our programs, don't just stick to that one program.

Starting point is 01:07:35 The whole reason why we created all the different ones, especially the red, the green, the block. Like, to me, I think everybody should at least rotate through those and then whatever you do from there. But there's so much benefit and carryover that come from those different programs. Next question is from Claybie Williams. As a student, I spent a lot of time sitting down. What are some everyday things I can do to minimize the negative effects? So this is crazy. I'll tell you guys an interesting story. I had a client early on in my career

Starting point is 01:08:07 who old lady who hired me. So she was, I think she was in her 70s. This is early on my career. And she comes in and her daughter hired me to train her. And one of the things her daughter wanted me to do was to alleviate some of her back and neck pain. And she had a, and you don't see this as much today, as maybe you saw a long time ago,

Starting point is 01:08:29 but she had a hump on her back. Have you ever seen an old person with like a legit hump in their back? And I didn't realize that that, a lot of that had become permanent. What happens over time with some of these humps is because of osteoporosis, it's like micro fractures develop and it almost heals in this stuck kind of position. And you can correct some of it

Starting point is 01:08:53 through exercise and strengthening muscles. But some of it kind of becomes permanent. And that was the first time I realized that your body just over time starts to mold itself. Yeah. After what positions it's in most often. So now how does it supply to what we're talking about? Well, today in modern societies, the thing that we are doing most often by far physically is sitting. And so we're in this, think of the sitting position, right?

Starting point is 01:09:22 Don't even think about a perfect sitting position. Nobody ever sits like super like they're in a military. It's usually this kind of the sitting position, right? Don't even think about a perfect sitting position. Nobody ever sits like super like they're in a military. It's usually this kind of slouch position. Hit flexors are shortened. Hamstrings are shortened. Core is completely disengaged. No need for your core to be engaged when you're sitting up, except for maybe when you're yelling

Starting point is 01:09:39 for someone to grab you a sandwich or something like that. So you're sitting in this position. Your body's literally molding itself to that position. And so the number one most important everyday thing you could do to minimize the negative effects of sitting is to sit less. Yeah, walk. You know, that's really at the end of the day,

Starting point is 01:09:58 that would be number one is, okay, you know, what can I do? What exercise do it off side or whatever? We can get into that. But before you get into that, the first thing you could do is literally just- Start minimizing your sitting. That's it, just sit less.

Starting point is 01:10:12 So if you're working at a desk, if you have the opportunity to stand, then do that. If you have the opportunity to sit on a fisioball and kind of move your hips around while you're working, do that. If you can get on your knees and kneel on something and work on your computer, do that. Try doing different things that are different from the sitting because that

Starting point is 01:10:35 is the thing that you're doing most of the time and your body is starting to shape and mold itself. I like that you said that though because there's always people that you're going to find there and give you little tips and tricks and little hacks to stretch certain muscle groups. But if you're predominantly sitting, that's what your body, you're just gonna keep telling your body,

Starting point is 01:10:55 that's the priority, and it's gonna overcome whatever little stretch you're gonna interrupt it with. So you have to just keep that in mind, that if it's the majority of your day, this is something that your goodbyes gonna sort of form into. So now to like, I mean, you definitely wanna break that up

Starting point is 01:11:14 and don't get me wrong. It is valuable, but to combat that is gonna be tough to where we need to implement a proper strength program on top of that to be able to get your body to respond and not form into these positions. So the biggest game changer for me, and I think I just talked to us on the podcast of their day, was getting to the point, which took a lot of work, a lot of stuff that's in prime and prime pro, a lot of 90 90s, a lot of combat stretches, a lot of zone one test in prime, and handcuffed with rotation and thread the needles and I've worked my ass off on my ankle mobility first, then my hip mobility and recently my thoracic mobility. And since then, I can now sit in this deep, deep squat all the way down where I'm actually at rest.

Starting point is 01:12:11 And for the first time in my life, like it's, I've never been that comfortable and that deep of a squat. And what I have found is I've completely eliminated any of the low back pain. I've eliminated the per of the low back pain. I've eliminated the versitis in my hips. I don't have aching knees like I used to.

Starting point is 01:12:30 I have way more of ankle mobility than I've ever had. And so now that I've done all the work and then I put it in to Sal and Justin's point about just like trying not to sit anymore, like yeah, I try my best. But then you know, you sit at a desk or you sit on a podcaster, we can't get away from that. But what I've done now that I never used to do,

Starting point is 01:12:51 and for me, these are my habits because I have dogs and things like that. Very first thing I always do when I come into my house, my dog's always greet me and I immediately drop down into the baby, or the squat at position where I'm asked to grass. And I'm comfortable there. And so I'll sit there and I'll rub on the dogs

Starting point is 01:13:08 and I'll play with them and I'll talk to them and I'll do that in that position because I've become so comfortable with it. So now I've just made a habit of doing that as regular and as often as I possibly can throughout the day. Katrina and I could be watching TV and talking and I'll slide off the couch real quick and I'll get down in that squad of position and I'll sit there for a little bit. I'll text and go through my DMs and I'll sit in

Starting point is 01:13:33 that position and I've just gotten myself really comfortable with being all the way in that position. Now what's great about that is that I'm not walking, I'm not exercising, I'm not doing something that I really takes a lot of effort, but I'm just putting in myself in a position that really promotes good ankle mobility, good hip health, and then also good thoracic mobility. And now that I've put all the work to get there, now as long as I just kind of incorporate that in my life,

Starting point is 01:14:01 I've found that I'm doing 80% less mobility work than I was doing just a year ago, but it took a ton to get to where I'm at. Now I just gotta make sure I do those little things, and I just recently posted on my Instagram, I was showing me doing the overhead squat, and it's really challenging, that's challenging for me to do, but I couldn't even do that before.

Starting point is 01:14:24 And now that's gonna be something that I kind of regularly do into my routine, not because challenging for me to do it, but I couldn't even do that before. And now, that's gonna be something that I kind of regularly do into my routine, not because I'm trying to do CrossFit, not because I care about getting super strong there. I just wanna promote the good mobility in those three areas that I've put a lot of work in. And so if you're somebody who is concerned about this and you two already maybe have low back pain

Starting point is 01:14:43 or about these issues issues put the work in. This is exactly why prime and prime pro were created and you know what it's it's not going to be a week. It's not going to be a couple months. It's going to take a long time. It took me a long fucking time of being very consistent with it. But where I'm at now is a very exciting place because I don't have to put all the work in. I just kind of now I have to have these little habits that I do. And as long as I am aware of that and I keep those good habits, I think overall, I'm going to have combated a lot of the issues I would have had.

Starting point is 01:15:15 Yeah, too, as far as things like creating these rituals and these sort of priming, like first thing when I get up, like, to kind of speak upon that, like, for myself, I'm driving all the time, and I'm experiencing pain as a result of this repetitive pattern that I've taught my body in terms of, you know, this external rotation of my foot, and then I'm constantly going through that planar flexion and that dorsiflexion and I'm squeezing and constantly going through this repetitive motion, which is affecting my quad. And I'm getting this pain that accumulates

Starting point is 01:15:57 and it actually trickles down now into my leg. And so anyway, I'm trying to address this first thing in the morning, I'm trying to get internal rotation of the hip and I'm trying to prime that as much as possible. I'm trying to get my hips in a better position. And then I go onto my drive, which takes up about, nah, I want to say like maybe two and a half, maybe three hours of my day, where it's like, I'm in this gridlock of like constantly going through this repetitive motion. And so I've been really adamant about like at work

Starting point is 01:16:30 or like before then I get back in my car and then when I get home, like I apply this same ritual that helps to counter that same, because I know I'm gonna have to do those movements anyways. So if I know I have to sit all the time, I'm gonna, I'm gonna ritualize every moment I have the rest of the day to get in like hip extension,

Starting point is 01:16:52 to get in this standing like open tall position, like upright posture. So those moments and those opportunities, I highly suggest it just becomes the other part of your day as much as possible. Well, you definitely don't want to wait until you hurt, but when your body starts to hurt, it's already pretty far down the path. If you keep waiting, then you start to get developed injury.

Starting point is 01:17:17 You want to stop before you get to the point where you have pain. I used to recommend this to some of my clients who would have issues sitting down. It's not much, but it actually adds up to quite a bit. I'll tell them every hour you're at your desk spend five minutes doing some stretches and exercises. That's it. So every hour you set your alarm, alarm goes off, you stand up, do some stretches, squat down, do some band exercises, time yourself for five minutes. Doesn't take much, you waste way more time than that by answering your friends on Facebook or Instagram

Starting point is 01:17:51 or whatever, then sit down and see what happens. The client that did it, because the problem is of course, people have to do it, but the client that did it got great results. They got leaner, and part of the reason why they got leaners, if you think about it, oh, five minutes, that's nothing. Well, if you're at your desk for six hours,

Starting point is 01:18:08 that's 30 minutes of exercise. That's 30 minutes of exercise that you did spread out five minutes every hour. So people would get leaner. The other thing was, of course, people felt like they had less pain. They felt better. And then the third one, which was unexpected, was my clients would tell me that they had better focus

Starting point is 01:18:24 and they were more productive. And we now know why. I mean, when you move, you increase BDNF in the brain and blood flow to the brain. It shows people show cognitive improvements. When they get up and move in between taking tests or answering questions on tests, I found this for myself when I developed maps and a ballock and did the trigger sessions

Starting point is 01:18:43 where after a trigger session, I just felt like I had a nice, like a small jolt of caffeine or something, kind of woke me up. So I mean, you can do that too, you're at your desk. Every hour, five minutes, time yourself and just do some light stretches, some light movements at your desk, squat down, you know, pull the band, you know,

Starting point is 01:19:01 do some band pull-apart, whatever. You know you have to be super specific. I mean, you could do maps, prime pro stuff and get real specific, or you could just move around and do what kind pull-apart, whatever. You don't even have to be super specific. You could do maps, prime pro stuff, and get real specific. Or you could just move around and do what kind of feels good. Not nearly as effective, but way better than what you're doing now, and then see what happens.

Starting point is 01:19:14 Next question is Lai Jaloo. How do you build confidence in yourself as a trainer besides just getting more experience? Stay in your lane. One of the best things you could do, or one of the worst things you could do as a new trainer, I should say, is going off and talking about or teaching things that you don't feel fully confident in. First off, you run the risk of saying the wrong thing or teaching someone the wrong thing,

Starting point is 01:19:41 which is embarrassing and will reduce your value to your client. And the second thing is, when you tend to do that, you know, and you don't feel confident. And so when you're teaching things that you're not versed in, it comes across. And so I would get, you know, this is something I would dress all the time with new trainers. They'd come to me, like, hey, look, I'm a new trainer,

Starting point is 01:20:00 I just got certified, I got these clients, I'm a little nervous, and I'd say, okay, stick to what you know and what you're confident in. If all you're confident in is traditional resistance training exercises and some stretches, then stick with that. It's going to benefit your client tremendously, and it's way more than they know. That's why they're hiring you. They don't even know what the exercises to do. You at least know that, so do that. And then of course, the second thing,

Starting point is 01:20:28 which they mentioned, to build confidence, is experience. The better you do, the longer you train people, the more you learn, the more you see what works, as you apply it, the more confident you become, and then the wider your scope becomes. But initially, when you first get started and you have no experience, do what you know

Starting point is 01:20:47 and don't do anything else. I mean, the days of fake it till you make it people are done. Like, I just, I don't see that being a valid option anymore anyways. And I knew some guys like that. Like, when I was first getting started, I could see the level of price points they would present. You know, the, obviously the confidence was there, I could see the level of price points they would present.

Starting point is 01:21:08 Obviously, the confidence was there, but it was not backed by true experience. And that came through to me, but not everybody picked up on that. And so there was a lot of that could get away with it more because it wasn't as accessible on the phone. This information that wasn't as readily available like it is today. So just don't get caught up in that trap of trying to wow and impress, you know, your client.

Starting point is 01:21:34 Like I think that's great advice, you know, that's all gave in terms of just knowing what you know best. Like if you if you lead with, I want to help you and I'm passionate about wanting to get you what you're here for and like I will, if I don't know something, I'll ask somebody, I'll get some help and bring that and be sort of like that vehicle to provide that to you, but I'm going to speak upon what I know and I'm going to help you to guide you in that direction. And it's as simple as that.

Starting point is 01:22:05 People really appreciate that, just the passion behind it. I've talked about this on the show before because when I started, I didn't know anything. And this was a common question that trainers that I hired would ask me when they'd sit down and I know when it would come time to, okay, we're starting work. You're now officially a trainer. get out there and start training clients and there's this huge fear of, oh my God, you know, what am I going to do if I get a doctor who knows so much more than me or what am I going to do this and like they're just so insecure about their knowledge. And first of all, including doctors, 80 to 90% of the people that you're going to

Starting point is 01:22:46 deal with, you probably just your one national certification and your little bit of experience, you already probably know more than most of them in what you're about to do, which is training clients how to work out and to eat better. So that's the first thing is to just be a know that you're probably way further ahead than you think you are. And then I normally I would pick one thing. So for me it was the it was the transverse abdominis, the core, you know, like that was just like mind blowing to me when I was a new trainer. I didn't know up until being a trainer. I did not know what the core was. I didn't know what it was responsible for. I didn't realize how important it was, and I had this whole spiel, you know,

Starting point is 01:23:27 I used to tell people that the most important muscle in your body besides your heart, because without your heart, your dead is your core. You know, and your core is made up to 28 different muscles that surround your spine and support it. And most people, one, don't even know about it, and two, they don't know how to activate it and work it. So, I'm gonna teach you about that.

Starting point is 01:23:45 It's so funny to have that memorize. I do. And that just shows you how many times I said it as a young trainer because it's all I knew. But I was fascinated by the information that I had learned. I was continuing to learn more and more. I found ways to incorporate it into the training. And then in my sales presentation, when I would present to them.

Starting point is 01:24:05 And what was great was almost always, especially back then, because obviously core is a little more popular now, but back then they were just like, wow, I didn't know that. I didn't know that it was that important and no, I don't know what my core is or how to activate it or do the drawing maneuvers. I was just fascinated by that little bit of information because it was more than I had before that. So find an area that you are interested in within training and dive deeper into it and go as far as you can and stick to teaching that. And I think most people will think,

Starting point is 01:24:39 and hopefully it's something solid. I can give you some other ideas of where I would go if I was a brand new trainer. There's some there's a lot of common themes that we find when you start training lots of people, one of them being that almost everybody will have upper and lower cross syndrome, which is the rounding of the shoulders and the forward head and then the the sticking the butt out or the pelvic tilt. So, like literally, do all the homework and research on why that is desk and phone posture.

Starting point is 01:25:11 Right, what muscles cause the body to be formed and shaped that way, which ones you do to address that and fix that and like literally learn that inside and out. And that'll be like your ace in the hole, always. You could be taking somebody who's been training their whole life and working out and know all the gym and all the machine and equipment and they've dieted for a competitive show and so they know diet really well,

Starting point is 01:25:34 but I bet you could school the shit out of them on upper cross syndrome or lower cross syndrome and what causes that and show them that they suffer from that and then how to correct that inside the gym and Holy and if you don't have that knowledge like again, this is another shameless shameless plug for the same programs This is what prime and prime pro was all about prime and prime pro the reason why we created those programs is we know That like of all the things that I taught people that that was like the first thing was to assess them, to assess their movement,

Starting point is 01:26:06 to see where there was breakdown, and then to teach them why there was breakdown, and then to give them exercises to fix that. That is like the magic recipe for almost everybody. Who cares what their goal is? Fat loss, build muscle, jump higher. That's all, yeah, we can do that, we can get better at that, you'll get experience,

Starting point is 01:26:24 and sure that might be their initial goal. But everybody needs help with overall posture. So teach them that. I once had a trainer who she was a yoga instructor. She'd been doing yoga for a long time and had only done resistance training for a short period of time. I think it was like a year of resistance training, but years of yoga, she went and got a national certification

Starting point is 01:26:45 and then became a trainer and she was really worried about, she was really insecure about, you know, her knowledge about resistance training. And I remember she, you know, she came to me and she's like, you know, I don't have the confidence, like, what do I do? And I said, look, stick to what you know really well, like you know yoga really well, right? And you know a little bit of resistance training, incorporate your yoga into training, all these And you know a little bit of resistance training. Incorporate your yoga into training all these different people. Just make sure it's appropriate. And that's what she did.

Starting point is 01:27:10 And you know what? She got a lot of clients because of it, because it was different. And because she was training in an area that she was confident. And of course, over time, she was able to learn more about resistance training and correctional exercise. But at the end of the day, stick to what you know.

Starting point is 01:27:24 Don't pretend like you know more than you do. And then as you do this over time, experience is the best confidence builder that there is out there. And with that look, if you go to mindpumpfree.com, you can download any of our guides for free. We gotta turn on there for free. So go check them out.

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