Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - O38: Justin's Road to Ripped: Week 1 Update

Episode Date: March 5, 2015

Justin has just completed his first week on his Road to Ripped! In this episode Justin updates Sal and Adam on his progress and they strategize to take his results to the next level. Follow along with Justin's transformation at www.mindpumpradio.com/justin. Photos, measurements and more...

If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. Mind, hop, mind, hop, with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. Welcome to MindPum! This is my episode! Man, I'm f**kers! Are you recording that? Oh, perfect. That's the intro! That's the intro.

Welcome to Justin's bonus episode. I feel like every time it's my bonus thing, I wanna do some kind of like hair metal intro or something. It's all you do. Yeah. Damn, you just keep it sexier, you're gonna do whatever you want on your business. Awesome.

This bonus episode is your update. We just started the transformation. Justin's 90 day transformation. Is this official? What, seven days or so? We're right around the front. We're in a week. We're in a week into it and, man, I feel great.

I feel energized. I'm really pumped. You guys just sort of like bringing that up, it has really like flipped the switch for me. I seriously, it re-ignited everything. So, you know. Well, I'm looking at you right now. I don't know if you can tell. This guy's face already looks different.

Oh, no. So, I mean, you, I mean, one week, it's pretty dramatic. We know that you're balancing your food, just like we do in the nutrition guide, and we know you're on the first phase of the map side of ballpark, so with that, but I wanna know the other, I mean, that's the boring stuff to me.

I wanna know, like, what has been the most challenging thing for you, like, have you craved something really bad? Have you, like, had low energy or something? What are the worst things that you are the most challenging things that you've already started to notice in these first seven days? Well, I want to be clear about kind of where I'm coming from. And so the listeners know, like, kind of like the state of where I was, Like basically, on the weekends, I would entertain a pizza and an alcoholic beverages and some de-stressing agents and things like that. But, you know, I was not dialed in,

however, I was eating decently healthy. So it's not like this is a humongous shock for me, but at the same time, once I started to look at my every day, like once you start really evaluating yourself and like what your habits are, you start noticing little things that you're like, oh, I was doing that. And then this all kind of leads to the end result

of the extra fluff layer, right? Well, I want to make it clear to the listeners too, because you know, we're going to come across too, because we're going to come across. Me and Adam are going to come across as coaching you, but the reality is this, whenever you're training for something, it always helps to have someone there just to hold you accountable, because you are, I mean, you're probably one of the best trainers I know.

But when you're in the zone, like I've done this before, right, I'm in the zone, for whatever fucking reason this before, right? I'm in the zone for whatever fucking reason. I don't train myself as well as I train other people when I'm in there. I don't know if you guys make mistakes and like I'll overdo it. I'll overwork out too hard or I'll do too much cardio. Oh, that's funny. You bring that up. Yeah.

Like it's seriously, when I say flippin' a switch, it's like this, it's this athlete switch. So for me, and this is where I wanted to get into like the difference, I think, in all of our sort of what makes us like so unique and dynamic is that you guys have specialties about you and you guys are have, you know, done a lot of amazing things and especially with your bodies and transforming them as far as the physique and everything goes. For me, this is all total new ground. Like I would work on my performance forever just to get better at athletics. And then for me to then shift into focusing

on what my body looks like on a daily basis, it's so weird dude. This is I feel like I'm outside of my skin somewhat. Like for instance, I don't really do curls dude. Like I just don't do it There's just no reason for me to do that wait a minute you don't have curls in your arms of that big But yeah, so anyway, so cleaning a jerk in some big way though I was pretty you don't even need to throw no bicep curls. Yeah, well, it's gonna hinder me anyway

Let's be honest, but yeah, so I'm focusing on that. I'm looking at myself in the mirror. I'm like, you're practicing your soul on. I'm getting my pump on. Yeah, but no, so the inner athlete in me kicks in and I get really aggressive. So I feel like you guys challenged me and now I got to perform. And so that's been a real struggle for me because challenged me and now I got to perform. And so that's been a real struggle for me because like just being on a high intensity level, I need to calm down. Yeah, because Adam talks about this all the time

because he does, among the three of us, this guy does shows, right? So he's used to like having a deadline and preparing to be looked to look a certain way on a particular date. And you even, you've talked about this before where guys will go into a 12 week or eight week or whatever and they'll just go balls out right off the bat and burn themselves out. It's beyond common. It's the reason why there's this

huge epidemic with it is you've got all these athletes that they almost have turned it into this like who can suffer more, you know, who's doing crazier amounts of cutting as far as restricting calorie wise and overdoing the cardio. I mean, there's most of a lot of these athletes are doing two hours of cardio a day on top of their routine seven days a week. And then like some of them living on 50 grams or carbs or none, you know, for months of time, no fruit, like pushing the body to the extreme and it's crazy when I see it. And that's what made me want to coach was because I'd see that.

And I also saw the struggle of myself like Justin, you know, before competing for me. I've been an athlete too. I played sports my whole life and I never have trained purely for aesthetics. You know, sure, I kind of did always, but I never cared enough to where I had to get on stage and present it. So I can totally relate with what he's talking about right now with this, you know, balls of the wall mentality. Like I almost wanted to work my way to that physique. And in a sense, you are, you gotta do it in stages though. You do. And you know, and I think this is a big, this is a really good point because I think a lot of people, even normal clients, not even talking about. So if you're a normal person just trying to lose some weight listening to this

Hit listen carefully because it's the number one common thing I find as far as a mistake that people make is Cutting too hard and pushing the body too fast because all you are doing is you're setting yourself up for when you hit that first plateau You got to take it to the next level you either got a restrict more or you're gonna have to step it up another Notch intensity wise or add more volumes and that you just run at it. You're got a restrict more or you're gonna have to step it up another notch intensity wise or add more volumes And that you just run at it you run out of time you run out of day You run out of energy and you can only cut so far to where it becomes unhealthy and the idea is to stay in that That healthy range of feeding the body everything that it possibly needs to

Support yourself and to hold on to your muscle mass and have energy high energy levels But yet restrict just the right amount. So your body is having to utilize fat and you can still build. And the same thing goes for when you're working out. Like, don't overdo it right off the bat, right? Because for example, with the MAPSANabolic program, we have the trigger session concept. Well, that's why.

And in nutshell, I mean, in a nutshell, without having to get too much into the science, the trigger session concept is designed to send frequent, you know, small muscle growth signals throughout the day. And the key is to do them low intensity. And so when you first started them, you know, we were talking through text

and you were going a little too hard. Yeah, yeah, I remember telling you, I'm like, oh yeah, so I'm doing this total body trigger session and, you know, I kept going until I couldn't get the last rep in there. And you're like, what, dude, you're going way too hard. way too hard. Yeah, it needs to be done judiciously. You need to do it in a intelligent way. Such a trigger sessions.

You have your hard workouts, your foundation workouts, which you're obviously working out hard. Trigger sessions need to be low intensity. They're just sending that small signal, just keeping your body anabolic when we talked about this. Since switching that, have you noticed any changes in terms of recovery and how it feels? Yeah, so it's great for that because like we've talked about before, the difference between what rest really is. For me, I've experienced that just by moving

and keeping things at a lower intensity. The next day, I feel a little bit more energy and productivity in my workout. So yeah, I believe that I believe that that's a great way to recover and then also kind of promote more strength in the actual lifts that you're gonna need that high intensity. So it's been awesome, yeah. So how about to support at home? You posted a couple videos this guy.

If you guys haven't got seen it yet, you go on our Instagram page at Mind Pump. He's doing trigger sessions with his kids hanging all over him, which by the way, your kids are adorable. Obviously they look like your wife. Oh, yeah. Yeah, she's the looker.

And then that one video you made where you were thrown away the pizza? Yeah, oh, god. That was a serious pizza, let me tell you two. Did you guys laugh at that? But like I really like, I cried a serious pizza. Let me tell you to listen Did you guys laugh at that but like I really like I cried a little bit? That's not can you tell me what the macro nutrients are on it? Do you know what I'm guessing? I'm guessing of the thick crust like that. That's probably that's a 1500 Yeah, it was 15 more 15 almost 2000. I believe because

Per serving. Yeah, it's like all cheese and like really thick dough. Oh, yeah. Oh, it's amazing Okay, orgasm in your mouth. So yeah, that we never had one No, I have not so we wait too far right? Which one the pizza So okay, so that that's been a challenge. I can totally I can totally relate to that You know, you've been training before so maybe you're not That's been a challenge. I can totally relate to that. You've been training before, so maybe you're not noticing this or feel this way. I remember I did when I first started just a little bit of discouragement

because my strength, I was doing what I was supposed to be doing, which was starting off just like you are basic movements, really lightweight. You just kind of touched the body and move it first and your body's gonna start to change just from all the new movements. So, you know, I always had a mental struggle with keeping the weight really light and kind of going, you know, not cranking my intensity up because the athlete and me,

I was going to grab the heaviest weight. You go check. Right? Yeah. Yeah. I want to grab the heaviest weights I can possibly do and start going after. Yeah. Let's be honest, this whole thing has been an ego check for me. And because I've been at the top of my game,

you know, I've known what I've, like nutritionally, I know what to do. You know, like training wise, I know what to do inherently, but like experiencing it again and being disciplined with it is always hard. You know, and for the average person, it's definitely hard because where do you start?

So yeah, really it's about that, that frequent movement and just being focused on that and like throughout your day, you're gonna have the best results by just moving more and then nutritionally, like all I've been doing is really just focusing on whole natural foods and where I'm gonna get them from and not being restrictive with it too much,

just mainly just trying to keep it consistent. Now, one challenge that I've always run into when I wanted to get really lean for something in particular, especially back in the days when I would do lots of bulking up, was initially, you just feel smaller. You don't really feel lean, you just feel smaller. Is that happening to you? It's a mental mind-fuck if you will. Yes. Has that happened? Do you already feel that way? Well, it's early.

It's early, yeah. Well, to like when you're restrictive, like I feel like some of my strength has diminished a little bit as well. Just being that I'm not eating as much, I don't really. I'm not used to like having a lower energy day. But yeah, like just that's always been something that's sort of prevented me from wanting to get shredded. Like I just, I don't like being skinny.

And so like I worked my way out of that. And so I just, yeah, so you, I mean, you guys have really helped to kind of keep in my mind that like that's, that's where we want to go. And experience it. You know, once you're there, you can kind of determine Well, I'm gonna be interested to see once you really get into phase one of the of the workout program The comments I've been getting from people doing this while they're cutting is that they're strength will either Maintain or get better as they're going through because of the way the phase one is designed. Oh, yeah

Especially if you've never trained like that now now keep in mind Right, I was just gonna say I keep in mind just and when into this strong as hell. Yeah. So I'm not sure if that's even gonna happen, but it would be interesting to see if your pound for pound strength goes up. Yeah. Because that's an interesting thing. I mean, like, it's not that I haven't been moving weight. Yeah. So don't kid yourself with that, right? It's just that I still use all the weights in the gym. I'm feeling like I feel like it, you know, some days I don't feel as powerful, but I experience that anyway, you know, even when I'm, whatever.

Yeah, when I'm going with that, but yeah. Yeah, yeah, no, I get it. Yeah, no, that's always been, that's always the tough thing for me. What I do, what I look at for myself is my pound for pound strength. So if I could pull 600 pounds off the floor, but I weigh 230 pounds, but then I pull 570

and I weigh 192 pounds. Right. I'm not weak or overall, but pound for pound, I'm a lot stronger. So I think you're determining that by, if you're lighter and you're still pulling like a good amount of weight More I'm gonna say to you body weight. Yeah, I think that's a good thing That's a good measure to keep yeah, cuz we got some listeners

You know why because I've talked to like power lifters and dudes that just like to move heavy weight But then they're like I want to get leaner and they have this issue with getting you know going down 10 pounds on their bench press And I was telling like you lost 30 pounds you lost 30 and your bench press only went down 10 You're your strength is phenomenal, but I'm I'm in that mentality is that bench press and I was telling like you lost 30 pounds, you lost 30 and your bench press only went down 10. Your strength is phenomenal. But I'm in that mentality is that power lifted that I lost that 10 pounds. Exactly.

So that's where I'm coming from with that mental gap. So Mark, I have actually, I've like, I personally have shut down like that. I don't even worry about it because I don't like it to mess with my head. Yeah, here's the way I look at it. Cause there's days, especially when you get deeper in your program, you're gonna be a little bit lower energy

and depleted a tiny bit and stuff when we get further along. And you are gonna continue to lose weight. And it's probably obvious that you're gonna see a little bit of a diminished in strength because of that overall. But if you maintain and stay the same or even possibly like Sal said,

if he increases, I'm gonna shit myself, I'll tell you the right thing. But if you just maintain, I'm impressed because I always do. Well, he's going into it strong. Yeah, well, I like to think I go into all my cuts strong also. And, but I always notice a huge difference in my strength, a huge difference.

I mean, I'm full on bulk and everything like that. I can, you know, curl in, you know, 55 pound dumbbells like they're light. And then by the time I'm at the end of my face, heading into showtime and stuff and I've gone through all the phases, I'm down, I'm down to like 35s, maybe 40s, you know? But in the day, I like to try and mess with my head

and take pride in that I can, I can look just good and I don't have to lift that much weight. And that's all part of this whole, like everyone gives me shit because I always talk about the aesthetic side, this and that. But part of it, I have to, to me, I have to kind of play into that, to help the mental game for me. It's like, I'm not going to worry about that as long as I, if I, if I'm looking better

every single day and I'm getting tighter and leaner, like, yeah, like I'm going to freak out, I'm going to freak out too much so I can't fill my shirts out. I got a question. How, you, you're a week into it. Has, how was your sleep? Has your sleep changed at all? I'm getting good sleep. Now, did you always got good sleep?

Did nothing no changes in that? Or is it better? Is it worse or the same? It might be a little better. Really? Yeah, it's a little bit. That's fucking awesome. See, that's awesome.

And I want to ask these questions because I want people to realize that you're going to feel healthier as you go along. So I think a lot of times when people quote unquote, die it, they end up feeling less healthy at the end of their quote unquote cut. But I think our focus, as we talked about off the air, should be to really make you feel good at the end of this, right? Oh, absolutely.

Yeah, I wanna make sure that I balance that out. Awesome. So it's about health and performance. Because to be honest, like what I'm doing right now is performance driven, even if it's on the aesthetic side, there's a difference that people need to understand. If I'm going to get down to shredded, that's a different subject than just,

I'm just being healthy and active. Absolutely. We, so if you, you know, if I post funny stuff about me eliminating food or whatever, just take that into consideration, like I gotta do what I gotta do to get to my goal. You have a timeline. Exactly.

And I think that's important just to, you know, I think, yeah, exactly. Yeah, people should know that, you know, there's balance in all kinds of, you know, if you have a treat or something that you like, I understand. Like, I'm just trying to make a point. Yeah, shredded.

Like, I wanna exactly, shredded. So you gotta be dialed, you gotta be on it. And I'm gonna lean on these guys real hard here because this is a new experience for me. And as far as mentally, like Adam was kind of talking about, like I have to find what that looks like in my head and get there and just focus on that. So how's the support at home?

Because we know what's gonna happen. First of all, you're getting attention from chicks anyway. And then you're gonna get shredded. Holy shit, how's the support at home? Whoa. What is Wifey thinking about her thing? Is she getting on board? Is she eating cleaner now because you're eating cleaner or not?

Yeah, yeah, she's on board, man. Oh, that's awesome. She helps me with dinner and she's been real helpful with that. We actually planned out a gym membership that's better for where we can drop the kids off and then we can both work out together like most of the night. So yeah, like I actually really enjoy working out with her just as like, bro, that's so.

Bro, you work out with your girl. You have the best sex afterwards. It is the best. It is the seriously the biggest effort you have to work out together. Is that mainly for just the man? I don't know. There's any science behind that. There might be a little bit. There's lots of science.

Yeah, we can talk a little. I'm definitely right up after the workouts. That makes sense. I think it's pretty amazing that you guys have relationship with that because, I mean, it took me quite a few years, probably until I was in my 30s, I realized that became something that was a must for me, just to have a partner who is, supports you whenever you, when you're, especially when we talk about the extremes, because if you're trying to go real extreme and you need to be extra disciplined, it's not just kind of eating good,

it's eating good a lot of the time, most of the time. So it really helps to have a partner that supports that. And for me, being someone who's in the competing, well, that's a must. You gotta have, you gotta be on board with me, you gotta be down to do that, you gotta be into it, you gotta like that shit, you gotta like getting in great shit.

Well, I think it's, we need to also let the listeners know, as we go along, we're gonna be giving these updates on a weekly basis, so people are gonna hear about what you're doing, right? Nice. And, you know, people might wanna know some specifics, if you do, go on our Instagram page, ask questions, and then we'll answer them on the show.

When we record, people wanna know what you're eating or how much you're lifting or whatever. Yeah, and when we mention these programs too, like I cracked open the book, I started filling it out. It's activity, there's things that you can apply like a workbook, so it's just a nice tool to have to refer to, so you go through that, your first day, I'm reading through everything again,

going through the maps, protocol, and we're ready to set go. Excellent. Now before we shut off here, you can go on MindPumpRadio.com forward slash, excuse me, forward slash Justin, you're going to get updates, you're going to get photos of him measurements, basically so you can follow along online again. That's MindPumpRadio.com forward slash Justin. Or you can click the in our, it's in my Instagram. so it's at the top of my Instagram you the link directly into the perper years to I thought not with the forward slash Justin I'll put that on there minus all right thank you for listening to Mind Pump for more

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