Miss Me? - Hips Might Lie

Episode Date: March 14, 2024

Welcome to the very first episode of 'Miss Me?', a twice-weekly catch-up between lifelong best friends, Lily Allen and Miquita Oliver.To kick off, Lily and Miquita dissect each other's Wikipedia entri...es, discuss family holiday feuds and ask why award ceremonies are better in America.Plus... why did Lily lie to a famous rapper about having a hip replacement?!Send us a voicemail or message at:Email: missme@bbc.co.uk WhatsApp: 08000 304 090 (+44 8000 304 090 from outside the UK)This episode contains strong language and adult themes.Credits:Producer: Matt Thomas Technical Producer: Will Gibson Smith Production Coordinator: Hannah Bennett Executive Producers: Dino Sofos and Ellie Clifford Assistant Commissioner for BBC: Lorraine Okuefuna Commissioning Editor for BBC: Dylan HaskinsMiss Me? is a Persephonica production for BBC Sounds

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is the BBC. This podcast is supported by advertising outside the UK. on Rogers Internet. Visit rogers.com for details. We got you. Rogers. BBC Sounds. Music, radio, podcasts. A gentle warning. Miss Me contains very strong language and adult themes. Hello, Lily Allen. Hi, Makita Oliver.
Starting point is 00:00:46 This is our first episode of our podcast, Miss Me. We finally named it. We're finally starting and I'm ready to go. Here we are. I'm a bit sick of not starting. Here we are. Miss me? I actually don't miss you because I just saw you a few days ago.
Starting point is 00:01:04 And that's why I much prefer talking to you on FaceTime. Is that terrible? Is that a really bad sign? Well, it's kind of the whole concept for this show is that we're going to do this now. But I didn't realize it was my preferred mode of communication with you. In real life, you get on my nerves a little bit more. And now we can let the whole world in. I wonder if it's to do with other people as well.
Starting point is 00:01:29 Maybe it's the combination of me and other people in a room. Yes, I think that always has been your weak point when others are around. When it's just me and you, one-on-one, that's when you get the good stuff. We're going to be talking to each other twice a week because we're friends and also we think that some people might like to hear from us because we've been around for a while, haven't we?
Starting point is 00:02:00 Yeah, we've been doing a broadcasting thing. I was being a pop star for a bit. And this show is all about checking in on each other, reconnecting. I live in New York, in Brooklyn. Makita lives in East London. And I think actually what's exciting is that the podcast is going to follow us wherever we go and whatever we do. Correct. We do have quite busy, crazy lives and the podcast is coming with us for all of it.
Starting point is 00:02:24 Yeah. Although I don't know how I'm going the podcast is coming with us for all of it. Yeah. Although I don't know how I'm going to set all this up when I go to Nashville. Imagine me getting in from the studio all day and it's like, right, now you've got to do the Krypton factor in order to get this podcast out. This is actually going to be,
Starting point is 00:02:41 this is the, you know, if me and my lovely husband David have a baby, this was going to be the baby's room. But now the podcast is my baby. Okay. So, yes. Do let us know if anything changes and you need to move the podcast to another room.
Starting point is 00:02:56 But I've got all my memories in the back here and all my family and all my press. And you're going to maybe have some of the same. You said that you're actually going to put, basically I said to you, I think it's really important maybe have some of the same you said that you're actually gonna put basically i said to you i think it's really important to have your press all around you to remind you of what you've done and you've done a hell of a lot of stuff and now you actually have bought all your old covers from what 15 20 years i went to I went on eBay and I bought you know anything that
Starting point is 00:03:27 yeah I just typed in Lily Allen magazine covers and quite a few came up and I bought them all at quite a large expense it's been a real exercise in narcissism but we're going to be talking about everything that happens in life, Lily is
Starting point is 00:03:44 in a marriage, I am not. I'm constantly wanting to know more about what it's like to actually have a husband and live a happy married life. It helps if you marry David, who I love with all my heart, as you know. Lily's also a mother. I'm not a mother. I have a lot of nieces and nephews, your kids being included. But I don't actually know what it's like to raise children,
Starting point is 00:04:03 apart from your late night FaceTimes telling me. Yeah, it's hell. And actually I have a list. I've been adding things to our list, the big conversation list. So these are the kind of things that we'll be discussing. Things that happen in our lives. I imagine things that happen in everybody's life from, oh no, that is just me.
Starting point is 00:04:24 I won't do that one. Bankruptcy. That was just me. I won't do that one. I don't think you're alone in bankruptcy. True say. Good point. Maybe Kim Basinger or Wesley Snipes are listening.
Starting point is 00:04:37 Because I used to feel... Maybe, but I also don't think that it's just, like, famous people that go bankrupt. Lots of people go bankrupt. No, of course not. But when I was going through it, I used to feel a real affiliation with Kim Basinger and Wesley Syphes.
Starting point is 00:04:49 Okay. We could be dissecting reggae. We could be talking about Josh Hartnett because, well, not anymore. My Scottish ancestry. The moon and the stars. Vibrators. I like that you've been adding
Starting point is 00:05:02 your own things to the list. I saw last night. I was like, I mean, there's not a point in it being a collaboration. Yes, but so far you haven't added anything.
Starting point is 00:05:12 And then last night you added intrusive thoughts. I was like, oh, me too, babe. Me too. No,
Starting point is 00:05:22 do you know what it was? It's just because you kept, you keep updating them. I keep getting notifications. My intrusive thoughts were, I'm going to fucking murder that bitch. I put four things. Couples who work out together.
Starting point is 00:05:36 Couples who make couple content. I like couples who make couple content because no one ever thinks about the poor bastard holding the camera. And imagine if that's your girlfriend. You've got to do that 15 times a day i want to give them a voice all right i just think that i just i just have no respect for it whatsoever i'm afraid should probably actually explain exactly how we're going to give these conversations to you and and share our experiences with you and just become a family become a community together lily you named these sections so did i yeah we got the meaty drop and listen bitch
Starting point is 00:06:10 we're actually using those words okay i don't know how we uh well yeah the meaty the meaty drop where did that come from i guess maybe because we're dividing the um you know the conversation into two parts really and one is the you know the meaty of it so that's the meaty drop i get it it's kind of like in the vein of photo dump so that's the discussion that's the conversation that's the chat where we have our big talk and sort of go through everything that's going on in our lives and the world around us. And then on Mondays, that's Listen Bitch.
Starting point is 00:06:52 Listen Bitch! Listen Bitch! Feel free to send us different ways to say Listen Bitch because this is just a particular way that we've said it since we were kids when we were just getting each other's attention. It very specific it's particular listen bitch and i really never thought we'd share it with so many people but i have to say it's an honor to
Starting point is 00:07:16 it really is listen bitch so yeah listen bitch is the episode where you ask us questions but it is going to be themed we didn't want it to be to just ask us questions, but it is going to be themed. We didn't want it to be to just ask us anything. Let's kind of, let's have a theme so that we're all working on the same page. The theme could be like Glastonbury 2009. It could be any Glastonbury, but Glastonbury 2009. That's quite specific.
Starting point is 00:07:37 I would have thought it would have been broader, just like Glastonbury. Yeah, okay, Glastonbury. But I'm just trying to think about our favourite Glastonbury and what that year might have meant to other people. The whole point of Glastonbury is that they all sort of blur into one, isn't it? Like, I can't tell you what happened when at Glastonbury. OK, we won't do Glastonbury because you can't remember any of them.
Starting point is 00:07:56 I can remember lots of different things that happened there, I just can't tell you when they were. Do you know what I was going to do? Just in case there is anyone that's like, who's Lily Allen? I was going to do? Just in case there is anyone that's like, who's Lily Allen? I was going to read your Wikipedia. Oh, no, please don't do that. Don't worry.
Starting point is 00:08:12 Mine says that I did a critically acclaimed run of Oliver Twist, the urban version, at the Hackney Empire. So don't worry. Yours can't be that bad. All right, we'll just do a little. We'll just do that beginning bit. We won't go into like personal life and like, you know, all that.
Starting point is 00:08:32 But Lily Rose Beatrice Allen, that's Lily's full name. She's an English singer, songwriter and actress. Her musical career began in 2005 when she began publishing her vocal recordings on MySpace. No one's going to know what the hell that is. Their popularity resulted in Airplay on Radio 1. It was a big move, actually, and led to her signing with Regal Recordings. Not quite true. I actually was signed to Regal Recordings before I set up the MySpace,
Starting point is 00:08:59 but you do you, Wikipedia. Oh, yes. Okay. Her 2006 debut single, Smile, was number one on the UK singles chart. This is when singles being number one was very important. And received double platinum certification by the British phonographic industry.
Starting point is 00:09:16 The Wotty Wotty? Who would you go? I know. I thought you said the British phonographic industry. I was like, why were they giving out awards for it? Her debut album explored ska and reggae. It did. It did.
Starting point is 00:09:30 Amongst other things. Went to number two. Oh, who was number one? I know who it was. It was Shakira and Wyclef. Oh, no, that was the single. And I knocked off, I knocked Hips Don't Lie off the top spot, actually. That might be all you need to say actually.
Starting point is 00:09:46 She knocked hips don't lie by Shakira and Wyclef off the top spot. Damn straight. A varied multi-layered iconic career as a singer songwriter for many, many years. And I've branched out and now I do other
Starting point is 00:10:01 things. I've done some musicals written them and never made it to the stage i have acted in a couple of plays in london's west end you're an actress now now let me read your wikipedia entry shall i yeah okay makita billy alexandra oliver born on the 25th of April 1984, is a British television presenter and radio personality. With Simon Amstel, she co-hosted Channel 4's Pop World from 2001 to 2006. She went on to present T4 from 2006 to 2010, as well as having her own show, The Month, with Makita on for music. Okay, that's where I wanted to stop. Stop. Stop. That will do. And in April, May 2015, she took part in a four-part series,
Starting point is 00:10:54 24 Hours in the Past, as herself. Oh my God. Can we not bring up when I had to dress up as a Victorian with Anne Widdicombe for two weeks of my life? It was not a good time in my career and it was the BBC so I said yes. Did you do that homeless, like, sleeping on the streets thing as well?
Starting point is 00:11:15 That was your dad. Your dad did that. I get you guys mixed up sometimes. I get your odd career trajectories mixed up. Yeah, let's end it there. Oh, yeah, that's right. Let's end it there.
Starting point is 00:11:28 Who the fuck supplies information to Wikipedia? Just quickly tell me. Is it still, like, just people? Anyone and anyone. You can make additions. For ages, there was, like, an entry on it that said that I suffered with Kawasaki disease. I don't even know what that is.
Starting point is 00:11:44 What a strange thing. Considering the weird shit you've told people that you do have, I can't believe that weird lie is on Wikipedia. I think you know what I mean. Oh! Yeah. Fake hip? What was it?
Starting point is 00:11:57 You said to a famous rapper. Yeah, once I did have liposuction on my butt, bum. I did have liposuction on my butt, bum. And once I was, you know, fornicating with a man, a rapper, whatever you want to call them. And said rapper spotted the scars from my liposuction and said, what are those? And I panicked because I was too embarrassed to disclose that I'd had liposuction. So I said, I had a hip replacement. And now said rapper walks around.
Starting point is 00:12:36 Somehow thinking that that would sound sexier. I was only like 23. But I just love that said rapper walks around thinking that Liliana has fake hip. I think he probably knew that it was not true. Maybe not, though. Maybe it's just... Anyway. Take from that what you will.
Starting point is 00:13:03 We're going to talk about holidays today because we went on holiday. We had a month in Kenya together. Well, Lily, we did nine days together. I did a month with my parents. I thought you were pretty good, actually. I mean, I, you know, I've known you for a long, long time. I can't even think of when you've been on holiday, except for in the last year.
Starting point is 00:13:24 You went to Ibiza. Oh, fuck me. And you went to Sicily. And then this year you went to Kenya. But even when I lived in Gloucestershire, you know, you could get you down there for like 24, maybe like 36 hours at a stretch. You can take the girl out of East London.
Starting point is 00:13:42 Actually, you can't take the girl out of East london actually you can't take the girl out of east london excuse me it's not that i just um what the fuck is it i don't know it's fomo and it's controlling your environment absolutely not fomo i don't i don't care about what anyone's doing back here it's that i don't like the pressure of having to have a good time at all times I don't like that I find that intense and like not fun and like everything's got to be like we're on holidays everything's magical and perfect it's like no it's not that's why I like a work trip with fun threaded throughout it don't you isn't that your job pretending that you're having a good time at all times? Yes, exactly. Hi, welcome to this.
Starting point is 00:14:28 Exactly. So I don't want to do that. If I'm going to have to have a good time, I want to get paid for it. Exactly. Or maybe it's because I feel like I don't deserve a good time. Save it for your therapist, please. Jesus. I do. I think I don't deserve pleasure good time. Oh, well, save it for your therapist, please. Jesus. I do.
Starting point is 00:14:46 I think I don't deserve pleasure. Oh, no. What's all about that? Are we going to go there on episode one? Really? Christ. The dice are there. I don't feel I deserve pleasure.
Starting point is 00:14:58 No, but that was a pretty great family holiday. We did some really nice, basically when you got there was when I was just about to kill my parents. And so when Lil turned up, I was like, okay okay because you love them so much and they love you so you guys could do all that and i could kind of step back and just breathe a bit but we did it look we survived we did it we went all over kenya and we had a really nice time but i was like ready to come home you really were by the end of it. That was weird. She was throwing strops left, right and centre.
Starting point is 00:15:26 She was having to apologise. We haven't got there yet. We haven't got to Tantrum Town yet but I was on the edge. Do you think
Starting point is 00:15:33 you preferred our Kenya holiday or our barge trip? Barge holiday. The year is 1996. It was
Starting point is 00:15:44 your dad Keith Allen trying to connect with us. And he said to my mom and your mom, I'm going to take the girls on a barge trip. My mom was like, that is the worst idea I've ever heard. She was like, have you been alone with all three of them, Miki, Afibi and Lily? And he was like, yeah, I got this. It's going to be me, Alex James. I don't think Damien Hirst was there. No, he wasn't. No, but it was another grown up.
Starting point is 00:16:13 And we were setting off from London to Stratford-upon-Avon. So what happened was it started very upstairs, downstairs. We realised we weren't really welcome on the top deck. That was for the guys, for the boys. And we were just there to cook,
Starting point is 00:16:29 which we couldn't do yet because we were children, and also do the locks. And presumably wash up. While they partied on the top deck. We were like, they can't treat us like this. They can't do this to us anymore. And we were really tired from doing the locks all day. Can I just say, we're not dramatising this. It did feel like we were there to be slaves. And we were like,
Starting point is 00:16:49 we can't do this. We're strong, independent women. We're going to run away. We're going to strike. We went on strike. We're like, fuck you, Alex Jones. Fuck you, Keith Allen. We don't need this. He called mum and said, the girls have run away. My mum was like, what? So he came looking for us and I just remember being at the top of a field with like a hill and all three of us trying to go into the directions and Keith running at us and grabbing you,
Starting point is 00:17:18 grabbing and just like huddling us together and dragging us back to the barge. And I was like, we are in so much fucking trouble. It was the 90s! The 90s! Yes, happy memories. Happy, happy memories. Can we talk about the disappearance of Kate Middleton, please, for a moment?
Starting point is 00:17:48 What do you mean, the disappearance? Well, she hasn't been seen since Christmas Day. Actually, that's not true. No. She's been seen once in the car. But she went to hospital. That's what the palace is saying. But did she?
Starting point is 00:18:00 What could she possibly be implying? I mean, well, you clearly haven't been, like, abreast of the conspiracy theories. No. The theories are she's left William, that they're not together anymore. Shut the fuck up. No. Well, yeah. They wouldn't let that happen.
Starting point is 00:18:17 Charles is ill. Harry and Meghan are gone. Exactly. They haven't announced it, but she hasn't been seen. They've got this, you know, she's been in surgery, but she was meant to be recovering for what, a month? It's odd. The whole thing is very odd.
Starting point is 00:18:35 And she was seen in a car outside one of their palaces last week with her mum, which they took a picture of her, but none of the UK press printed it. And then on the weekend, the palace put out a photo of her and the three children on Mother's Day. Yes, absolutely. What lovely photos. And everyone was like, oh, look, there she is. Isn't she sweet? Cut to a few hours later, the Associated Press, Reuters,
Starting point is 00:19:04 a bunch of other people sent out a kill notification on the picture. The reason for the killing the story at a closer inspection, it appears that the source has manipulated the image and no replacement photo will be sent. I don't get it. So what? So the photo had been like heavily photoshopped, right? In what way? Like just to make them look prettier? There's like a picture of her with the kids,
Starting point is 00:19:27 her hands around the kids. She's got no engagement ring, no wedding ring on. The zip on the front of her thing is like cut in half. It literally looks like they have taken her head and put it on top on somebody else. Or at least that's what the sort of subtext, the internet subtext is. You'd think they'd do a better fucking job
Starting point is 00:19:46 if they're going to put this picture. You would, wouldn't you? Anyway, so then everyone was like, holy shit, where is Kate Middleton? Can somebody please? We need a video of her with today's newspaper. Otherwise people are not going to be satisfied. I mean, literally people think she's like in a dungeon
Starting point is 00:20:04 being held against her will. Oh my God, they're so in turmoil. This is not a good time to lose Kate Middleton. But anyway, she or the palace have said... Oh my God, it's a fake statement. Kate's photo apology. This is what she put up. Like many amateur photographers, I do
Starting point is 00:20:26 occasionally experiment with editing. I wanted to express my apologies for any confusion the family photograph we shared yesterday. I hope everyone celebrating had a very happy Mother's Day. It's like a robot talking. And that was put out on
Starting point is 00:20:42 the Princess of Wales Instagram. Dodgy. Suspect. What the hell is going on? Something's going on. Something is going on. Why would they refer to the edit? It's like, if this is going to be what you do,
Starting point is 00:20:56 edit a picture, then again... The Associated Press initially published the photo which was issued by Kensington Palace. The AP later retracted the image because at closer inspection it appears that the source had manipulated the image in a way that did not meet AP's photo standards. Guidelines.
Starting point is 00:21:12 The photo shows an inconsistency in the alignment of Princess Charlotte's left hand. Where do you think she is? Where could she be, Kate? I don't know. I mean, maybe she's really ill. Maybe there's more to this stomach operation than meets the eye maybe she has left william who knows kate middleton would never leave prince william come on makita read a fucking newspaper seriously do you not know anything i do i just don't often read the royal section
Starting point is 00:21:46 I prefer the arts and literature and the gardening section I'm not joking well you know I'm obsessed with power structures and you know the royal yes I was going to say
Starting point is 00:21:59 don't say the royal family the infrastructure of power yes I do know yes it's a hobby of, the infrastructure of power. Yes, I do know. Yes. It's a hobby of yours, the study of that. Fucking hell, Kate, I hope you're alright, babe. I really do.
Starting point is 00:22:12 Yeah, send us a message. Call us at Miss Me. Miss Me at bbc.co.uk. Kate, just you can tell us what's going on. Mm-hmm. We're going to take a little break. We need a little break. We need a little break from each other already.
Starting point is 00:22:28 Don't we just? Let's take a journey back to 2003. Canadian teen sensation Avril Lavigne was topping the charts and turning the music industry upside down. But what if I told you that the Avril Lavigne we know and love might not be the same Avril? What? Did Avril die? Was she replaced by a doppelganger? I'm Joanne McNally and I'm doing a deep dive into a notorious internet conspiracy. Who replaced Avril Lavigne? Listen on BBC Sounds. Welcome back to Miss Me on BBC Sounds. Welcome back.
Starting point is 00:23:15 You're actually in America, so did you watch the Oscars? Because you can watch it at normal time. Civilised. Yeah. Barbie. Oh, God, who cares? Was left out of the whole of the Oscars. I mean, apart from I'm Just Ken.
Starting point is 00:23:27 I love Greta Gerwig, but who... It's not really an Oscar-winning film. Well, it definitely wasn't. I don't think they won anything. What would you give it if you were going to give it an Oscar? I mean, I actually thought that Margot Robbie's performance was good. I'm sad that she didn't get a nomination. I think that the thing I find interesting about that film and was really shown in the awards season campaign
Starting point is 00:23:49 is that the whole, it's a feminist movie, but the main sort of like character arc is Ken's. Yes. So it's like, we've made a film about a woman, but you've given the big storyline to the man and... What happens to Ken? You know, and he got nominations and she didn't. I mean, I guess maybe that's quite meta of her, though, to do that,
Starting point is 00:24:14 because that is what the world is like. And I guess the way that ultimately we can have as many women being feminists as we like, but until we get men on side, it's not really... And maybe men can't be interested in a feminist story unless they're centred. Unless there's a male-centred narrative arc. Yes, because that film was a billion-dollar film,
Starting point is 00:24:37 so it wasn't just women going to see it. No, it was hugely successful. I mean, I was very moved by that America Ferrera speech. Were you really moved by that speech? I thought it could have been written a lot better. I was in tears. Wow. You need to read some Maya Angelou. Alright. Relax.
Starting point is 00:24:54 Jesus. No, I mean like, come on, my Oprah speeches are better than that. Okay, good for you. I'm just I was moved by it. I can't tell. Maybe I was about to get my period or something. No, but it's interesting. What I'm saying is it. I can't tell. Maybe I was about to get my period or something. No, but what I'm saying is it's interesting. She's just thrice. What I'm saying is it's interesting what moves you and what moves me
Starting point is 00:25:12 because that really didn't move me. I'm more interested in the comeback of America Ferreira. Isn't that great? Like, she could have just been Ugly Betty. And she took some time out. By the way, about that, like, it's insane
Starting point is 00:25:27 that America Ferrera, who's so pretty, it was like the lead in a program that ultimately was about somebody called, Ugly was in the name. Ugly Betty.
Starting point is 00:25:37 And can I just say that the only thing, that all they did was put her in glasses. And this was when I did T4. used to throw to ugly betty so this isn't that long ago yeah it's not the 90s so nice ugly betty it's almost it's like the it's like when you look at bridget jones's diary now and she's talking about being fat and you're like sorry what i know where i know or or i watched a Friends episode and it is so homophobic.
Starting point is 00:26:09 Like, ragingly homophobic. Shamelessly. Shamelessly. Oh, isn't it funny? But anyway, I haven't watched the whole thing, but I think I've seen enough. I think what I saw was enough. But what I did watch was the SAG Awards,
Starting point is 00:26:24 Screen Actors Guild Awards. And of course, all actors and directors and writers enough i think what i saw was enough but what i did watch was the sag awards um screen actors guild awards and of course the all the all actors and directors and writers have been on a strike for a really long time was it sort of nine months it lasted um and they've just come back from it getting what they want from their strike and you know having their demands met i don't know where they've had all their demands met but some demands have been met you tell me yeah i mean i think it was it was like a well i know that because the writers guild went on strike before the actors guild did so i think you know most of them were out of work for like eight months i said i think i know damn well they were because my husband was sitting close to home How long was David at home? A long time So So they
Starting point is 00:27:08 First it was the writers Then the actors in solidarity And then the entire No the writers came to an agreement With their guild And then union And then the screen actors guild Went on a strike while they negotiated
Starting point is 00:27:24 New terms I think they have to renegotiate every three years. And so they, you know, well, there were a couple of sticking points in terms of like AI. Yeah, obviously. I mean, I'm with them. And residuals, you know, because the whole models change. Like, so, you know, it used to be that, like, every time an episode of Friends was played on Dave, like, they'd get, you know, I don't know, however many thousand pounds each, the actors. And that sort of doesn't really happen anymore with streaming. And so I think that they're trying to figure out new ways
Starting point is 00:27:57 to be paid fairly. Because, you know, once something's on a streamer, people can go back and watch it as many times as they want. And the actors are not being remunerated for that. So they all were striking about that and I was going, this has been happening in music for 20 years. No one gives a shit. And also we don't have a union.
Starting point is 00:28:17 So the entire music industry doesn't have something like this. They do, but it just doesn't work. I don't know why. It just doesn't work. It's hard to get everybody on the same page and it's hard to get people to stand up to you know the major labels and the streaming services in the same way and I think that it has a lot to do with the fact that when you work for a studio so let's say you're, you know, doing a show for Netflix or Amazon Prime or HBO Max or whatever. You're signed on as an employee of that company for the term that you're filming and, you know, promotion. Whereas when you are a recording artist, you're not.
Starting point is 00:28:56 You're self-employed. So you are not protected, you know, in the same way. There aren't the sort of same processes that you would go through in terms of, you know, HR. Like you're not an employee. You're self-employed and you are licensed, basically. Because of everything that this industry has been through, there was just this real heart and love throughout this award ceremony. They also just, Americans just do award ceremonies better than us.
Starting point is 00:29:26 I think that they find it easier to be, what is the right word? Like gushy and I think we're a little bit too aware of ourselves to just thank God and thank our families and cry and be overwhelmed. I feel like everyone's just a bit too stush here. In America, everyone's just like weeping. And also it was just classily done. I don't know. There was just something a bit chic about the whole thing,
Starting point is 00:29:57 which is not how I felt after watching the Brit Awards. What about the BAFTAs? Because it's interesting that you say that it's a cultural thing in terms of the countries that put these events on. Because I think that one of the reasons that I moved here is because I feel like it's a much an example of that would be you know when I decided to do a play even though I'd never acted before and you know I certainly hadn't had didn't have any experience in the theater when I would tell Americans about it they'd be like oh my god that's so exciting you're going to learn so much you're going to kill it and then when I tell
Starting point is 00:30:42 English people about it they'd be like a play have you ever done that before aren't you scared like yeah it's very culturally we're just very different and so I think it's like an award ceremony where you're like meant to be vulnerable and or at least not meant to be but in America you know you're vulnerable and emotional and um and proud of yourself deeply celebratory of every moment whereas in england we have an attitude of like yeah well so what is my what's an award like i don't really care like anyway oh god if i was winning an award i'd be very american about someone told me i read somewhere recently that some famous actress i want to say like it's kate winslet but i might not be keeps her oscars in the sort of downstairs toilet in her house
Starting point is 00:31:28 so that when she has dinner parties, people can go to the toilet and they can hold the Oscar and do their speech in the mirror. Oh, that's quite nice. That's quite nice. Because if you see an Oscar, you want to pick it up. Yeah, you'd be like, I'd like to thank. Wait, but you've done this.
Starting point is 00:31:43 So I don't know, like I've actually not done this. You've held something and said, whoa, I can't believe this is happening. So how was that? How did you feel about your speech? Were you talking about best female at the Brits 2000? Well, actually, that one I didn't know that I was going to win. Yes. Hence the Annie wig.
Starting point is 00:32:00 Yes. That was a surprise. And I wore a wig because I thought that they wouldn't be able to Pick me out To get my losing face And then I only went and bloody won it Only won it And do you remember your speech?
Starting point is 00:32:16 Did it go well? I can't remember I remember I was high Stop I'm sorry, I was Oh shit I wouldn't want to be Stop. What? I'm sorry, I was. Oh, shit. I'm not going. I wouldn't want to be out of my head on a stage. No, I can absolutely tell you from experience
Starting point is 00:32:33 that you probably shouldn't be high when you are accepting an award. Again, if I'd have known I was going to win that time, and usually they do tip you off, I wouldn't have been high. Well, that's it, Lily. That's the end of the first episode of Miss Me. That was fun. That was nice, wasn't it?
Starting point is 00:32:53 That was lovely. Usually we probably talk to each other five times a week, so just talk to each other just twice, because we will be back on Monday with questions from the world to us. Is it listen bitch? It's Lisan Bitch. Lisan Bitch. And we will have a theme. I actually haven't told you this theme,
Starting point is 00:33:10 Lil. Tell me if you like it. Boys from the 90s. Jesus Christ. That's boys from the 1990s. Great. Yeah? Can't wait. Yeah. Okay. Have you ever hmm, I'll ask you on Monday. I feel like it's quite a niche subject
Starting point is 00:33:30 and it's geared towards Makita. I feel like you're going to have some stuff to say and I'm not really, but that's fine. Bollocks, you were there too. And I'm not really, but that's fine. Bollocks, you were there too. You can email us at missme at bbc.co.uk. I love having, I love that Miss Me has an email address.
Starting point is 00:33:55 Missme at bbc.co.uk. I love a voice note. Lily likes them, but not as much as me. God, does she love a voice note. Let me tell you. If you feel like you can't do it in your friendship groups or with your parents, like, this is the place. Voice note over here. Or if your nails are too long and you can't be bothered to write it out,
Starting point is 00:34:12 just voice note it. We're more likely to answer the question if you voice note it. There you go. Yeah, because I want to know who people are. Yeah. I want to know where you live, who you are, and what you want to know. Watch your name, where you come from. Bye! I'll miss you. Are we actually done? Yeah. I want to know where you live, who you are, and what you want to know. What's your name? Where'd you come from?
Starting point is 00:34:25 Bye. I'll miss you. Are we actually done? Yeah. This is it. So can I vape now? Yeah, can I? Goodbye.
Starting point is 00:34:33 We will see you on next week's episode of Miss Me. Goodbye. See you next week. Yes, we will. For some more Miss Me. Miss Me. Do you miss me? Do you miss me?
Starting point is 00:34:46 Do you miss me? Do you miss me? Do you miss me? Do you miss me? Do you miss me Me do you miss me do you miss me you miss me don't you do you miss me do you miss me do you miss me do you miss me do you miss me do you miss me do you miss me do you miss me
Starting point is 00:34:51 do you miss me do you miss me do you miss me do you miss me do you miss me do you miss me do you miss me do you miss me
Starting point is 00:34:51 do you miss me do you miss me do you miss me do you miss me do you miss me do you miss me do you miss me do you miss me
Starting point is 00:34:52 do you miss me do you miss me do you miss me do you miss me do you miss me do you miss me do you miss me do you miss me
Starting point is 00:34:52 do you miss me do you miss me do you miss me do you miss me do you miss me do you miss me do you miss me do you miss me
Starting point is 00:34:52 do you miss me do you miss me do you miss me do you miss me do you miss me do you miss me do you miss me do you miss me do you miss me do you miss me do you miss me do you miss me do you miss me do you miss me do you miss me do you miss me do you miss me do you miss me do you miss me do you miss me do you miss me do you miss me do you miss me do you miss me do you miss me do you miss me do you miss me, do you miss me, do you miss me, Miss Me with Lily Allen and Makita Oliver. This is a Persephonica production for BBC Sounds. Exciting times, Ellis. Oh, is it? Why? Well, our brand new podcast is here. Two releases a week,
Starting point is 00:35:13 and we get to leave behind the shackles of live radio and draconian vaping laws of Broadcasting House. Ellis, we are the pioneers of digital Britain, grasping the opportunity to redefine the audio landscape through powerful, impactful, dynamic conversation. You and I will inspire the next generation of free thinkers. What are your aims and aspirations for this new dawn? Uh, I'll try to arrive on time and not eat manguane.
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