Miss Me? - Le Sh*tshow

Episode Date: August 1, 2024

Lily Allen and Miquita Oliver discuss public embarrassment, the Olympics and violence against women.This episode contains very strong language, adult themes and graphic descriptions of violence against women. If you have been affected by any of the issues raised, you can find support via the BBC Action Line: https://bbc.co.uk/actionline/ Credits: Producer: Jonathan O’Sullivan Technical Producer: Will Gibson Smith Production Coordinator: Hannah Bennett Executive Producers: Dino Sofos and Ellie Clifford Assistant Commissioner for BBC: Lorraine Okuefuna Commissioning Editor for BBC: Dylan Haskins Miss Me? is a Persephonica production for BBC Sounds

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of violence against women and very strong language. Hello, welcome to Miss Me. Hi. LA. How's it going? Well, in London, I would say we have LA-ish, ishy weather. I think it's like 30 degrees today or something. I went to play tennis in it and felt like I was going to fall over. You know, like when they tell tourists to not go out in the midday sun? I felt like that person. I went out in the midday sun and played sport. So I nearly keeled over, but it felt good.

And now, little look, I've got all the kind of classic hot summer day in london things i've got pineapple juice lots of ice yeah i've got um lollipops no and i've got milk chocolate buttons that have been in the freezer okay because i put all chocolate in the freezer even when it's not this hot but if anyone doesn't then it will change your life listen to this look oh i didn't do it but it gets this really nice like snap when it's really cold you took them out too quickly because it's taken a while for you to answer the phone they've defrosted a bit just a little i feel like a lolly i'm not going to say the brand but is quite brat summer well let it go please no i'm not going to let it go i'm not going to let it go i guess it's a bratty hot summer everything that was meant to happen is happening i feel in the city today

so funny because i feel like i've been living summer for like six weeks now and it feels like it's just begun this week in england yes yes that's how we feel over here watching you flip around the world but i would rather be i don't want to be down on la but i feel like we're more grateful here for the sun yeah or just in general because actually there's a lot of gratitude going on in la let me tell you it's a lot of gratitude a lot of gut health okay a lot of weed smoking it's all legal and shit i don't enjoy being here what are you gonna do you're gonna come down on weed now i'm coming down on la i don't like it in la oh i thought you did i don't like it in la either it's not good for big ego low self-esteem people like me.

Yeah. Which is... It immediately feels like I'm a small fish in a big pond. And I don't like feeling like that. Yes. I'm an utter failure. Yeah, it's funny, isn't it? Was it funny or is it tragic?

Well, the funny thing for me is that you live in America. And I think, well, New York and LA have an ability to do that to me. And I'm surprised that you live in New York. And yet LA particularly makes you feel like this. I think because I didn't really party much in New York. So I very much associate LA with like a time in my life that we sort of talked about on the show last week. You know, the Lindsay Lohan days. Yeah.

Of like partying and debauchery and so I've sort of like there's such a sort of stench of success here yet it really represents like a a very reckless time in my life and and my career I suppose and it makes me feel like sad or. I feel like I fucked up when I come here. Do you feel close to your mistakes when you're there? Yeah. That was not helped by something that happened to me this week. Now, I'm very surprised you want to talk about this. Because we spoke a few hours after this had happened.

And it was a reaction that was, it was horrible. We were both, you were upset. I was very upset to hear you so upset. And then the next day, you were like, should we talk about this? I was very upset to hear you so upset and then the next day like should we talk about this i was like are you sure i could see the funny side now but i did not at the time let's say what happened okay let's talk about it you've got my hand holding yours and your heart no it's fine honestly i'm fine now i also by the way the reason this affected me so much is i kind of touched on it,

you know, big ego, low self-esteem and also no therapy for six weeks. I haven't had my therapist for six weeks. My therapist is away for a month as well. Thank you. It's not easy. Feeling slightly insane. Yes, me too. So I was in New York. David said, can you come to LA with me? I've got to go to this Hollywood Walk of Fame star laying event for this guy called Kevin Feige who's like the head of Marvel and he was having his star put on the Hollywood Walk of Fame and they have a ceremony to celebrate that and David you know being part of the Marvel Universe wanted me to go with him so I said yeah of course you know it'd be a nice trip we've got a few days in the sun and we were going to go to the San Diego Comic Con so we get to LA which was a nightmare anyway we're

like seven hours delayed on the plane because we're still in this IT outage situation that's happening you're flying more than anyone within this IT outage because we've just had the hellish trip to camp in Boston and now it was a nightmare getting to LA. Anyway, so then quite early the next morning, we're doing this thing. Now, you know, it's a Marvel event. I'm not part of the Marvel universe. So I didn't like have my hair and makeup done. I wasn't going to like pose for any pictures

or do any red carpet stuff. I'm just like, you know, on the sidelines there to support my husband. We were going to go out for a nice lunch afterwards. And it was the day that the new Deadpool film was launched and so all of the Deadpool people were there so there was Ryan Reynolds and Hugh Jackman and you know people from the rest of the Marvel Universe Chris Evans the whole the whole Marvel Universe were there yeah Simu Liu, Ki-Hoo Kwan, Catherine Hahn,

Brie Larson, Sebastian Stan, Chris Pratt etc etc and it was all like set up on the street on the Hollywood Boulevard and there's you know like sort of hundreds of fans maybe thousands of fans they're all there to see their favorite Marvel people and these little chairs all laid out with our names on where you know assigned seating where you're going to sit and stuff we sit down and you know this sort of doddery guy from like the hollywood chamber of commerce or something starts you know making a speech about how many billions of dollars they've made and um just just money stuff basically and then doddery old hollywood guy says this oh all right we're gonna actually do this. We're going to play a clip. But before we introduce our next speaker, we have a few celebrity guests in the audience today, and I'd like to

introduce them. Singer Lucy Allen. Okay. So that was like a bit embarrassing, but fine. You know, like I get it. I'm not part of the universe what when why my name is on a list of names to be read out is beyond me anyway I guess you're the celebrity wife though aren't you well obviously not because you didn't know my name so I anyway oh for fuck's sake that's fine so I'm sitting there. Luckily, I'm sitting next to Emma Corrin, who is so lovely and sort of like held my hand and was like, oh, my God. And Catherine Hahn, who was sitting behind me, and she leant forward and she went, did he just call you Lucy Allen? I was like, did he just say Lucy? That just happened.

And I was like, OK, whatever. Annoying. Embarrassing. We move. Carry on. Hugh Jackman gets up to have his speech which goes on for about 10 minutes and was very funny he told a story about him and Kevin Feige going for a steak many years ago and that's over everyone claps and then doddery old Hollywood

guy gets up again and um and this is what he said i actually owe a big apology to everyone here and everyone watching around the world i couldn't read my own handwriting so when i was introducing some of our celebrity guests i introduced a new and non-existent singer to the world named lucy so let's do that again just rewind whatever happened uh one of the celebrities our guests in our audience today is singer lily allen you know what thank god it was like because i was like if he does this the second time and then no one claps because they're just confused by the whole thing i can't tell you i was sitting there and i was just like I kind of like called it before it happened. I was like, you know what?

The worst thing could be at this point is if he like brought it up and corrected himself. And then he got up and I was like, why am I being punished? What is it that you felt? Did you feel like embarrassed and silly because you should be known no I think it was more that like this is about Kevin Feige and about Marvel why is there so much airtime being taken up about me who no one here cares about it was just like

I don't know it felt like attention seeking almost in a way. And I just wasn't, you know, right. I do understand that I was there to just like hold David's hand. I was there for no other reason. But it's a tricky tightrope to balance, isn't it? To be a very well known person at home where you're from from and also be well-known in America but also be known as David Harbour's wife and I suppose you're constantly sort of dancing between the three and and that day all three just kind of got fucked up together for one moment and it was a terrible outcome but I do think there is quite a few things at play here it's not as simple as why would anyone care about me being here because Because you're quite a famous person, Lily.

So, of course, that's going to come up. It's just the wording. Oh, we have a few celebrity guests here. Kill me. Just kill me. Just get me the fuck out of here. I was honest. In my head, I was just like, I just want to die.

I just want to die right now. I mean, luckily, Emma Corrin was there and i was just like well i think also the people that are there i think in our lives sometimes we are in rooms with like really terrifyingly intimidating famous people like i was thinking about this when do i feel completely out of place in a work thing but this wasn't a work thing this was a family thing yes exactly but that's where the lines get blurred because it is a work thing as well. It wasn't work for me. So that's why I was so like, I want to die.

You weren't prepared. I was not prepared. I was not prepared at all. Also, I do have like an irrational fear around this. Like even when I am on stage, like doing a concert for myself I when people are like you know I'm going to introduce you on stage I always say like don't say ladies and gentlemen Lily Allen because I'm so scared of being like booed or like the the crowd like not clapping or something and it throwing my performance so I do have this like fear of my name being read out in public. And it was like my actual worst nightmare.

It was my worst fear coming true. It's okay because it was Lucy. So you're fine. Your name's still not tarnished. Yeah, I had a complete sense of humor failure around it for a good 24 hours. And we walked out of the ceremony and David was like, hey, where are you going? And I was like, where am I going?

I'm going to the fucking car. And he was like, are you going and i was like where am i going i'm going to the fucking car and he was like are you okay i was like no i'm not okay he was like what's wrong i was like what do you mean what is wrong what do you mean what do you mean thing that's ever happened to me in front of like the world's most famous people. Who, by the way, I've just heard how many billions of dollars they've made for everyone. And it was just like, I'm just going back to my little old hotel room. I'm going to close the curtains and get into bed and watch The Lady and the Lake, which is what I did. And then I called you and cried. Did you watch The Lady and the Lake to comfort you?

Oh, babe. Let me get back to what acting's really about. Fuck all this ceremony. Yeah, I know what you mean. I do shit like that. I totally understand. I missed the opening ceremony of the Olympics, but then I went to...

We had a family barbecue because Bruce is in town. Namer's dad's in town. Oh. I know, who lives in your town, lives in New York. And he's here for a few months. And we had a big barbecue, and they were just cussing out the Olympic ceremony. Oh, yeah.

And I was like, it can't be that bad. And then I had a little watch it's interesting because i saw some of the olympics the other day with my mom my mom loves the olympics she particularly loves gymnastics and i asked her why yesterday and she said because um when she was young in the 70s growing up those young girls gymnastics became a thing they were stars yeah they were like iconic young girls going around the world moving in these amazing ways and doing these incredible things in their life so my mum's got this really sweet thing when she's watching gymnastics she really regresses in the child I sort of see small Andy who would have loved to be a gymnast

um but Tom Daley I saw a lot lots of gymnasts and I saw lots of swimming and Tom Daley, I saw lots of gymnasts and I saw lots of swimming. And Tom Daley was absolutely superb. And his husband was there with that. I think they have two kids now. You know, he's been away for a bit. He's only 30 still now. Lil, he was so good. You know, it was the synchronized, you know, diving. Three flips down in, no splash, nothing.

It was beautiful to watch, actually. It felt like excellence over and over again. I think he won silver. Yeah, I did see a picture of him taking the silver. I mean, yeah, that is what the Olympics is about, isn't it? It's excellence in your field. But when I re-watched the opening ceremony, the BBC stuff was great.

Boy, do we know how to make a montage. Tom Hiddleston at the helm of the BBC Olympics montage, doing it like he meant it. Very good. And then we hand over to Paris, and it's just like, how do I say this? Chaos.

Chaos. Chaotic. Yeah, sorry. How do I say this? Chaotic. How do you say chaos? Well, actually, wait, what did Tom Middleton say to start it?

Que le jeu commence. Let the games begin. And it was like, let's go. And then it suddenly immediately just felt a bit anticlimactic. I think I figured out why, though. Was it un petit chuchu? Did you watch it? No, I did not watch it.

I have been very not watching any of the Olympics, mainly because I'm in a hotel room and all it's got is pay-per-view. I can't watch it. I'm trying to not be on the internet. So I actually have taken my phone out of my suitcase. It's been in there locked away since I've been here. How's that been? How long have you done with like no contact and no internet?

Four days, five days. Bloody hell. Yeah. That's why we haven't spoken. That is why we haven't spoken. I've still got my pinwheel phone, which we've spoken about before. Oh yeah.

Still got some of the apps, but no social media and no browsing. So I can still WhatsApp. I can still get an Uber and I can still pay for things. Like a caveman. Yeah. No social media and no browsing. Yeah. So if you send me a link to my WhatsApp, I can't open the link, which is what we know.

We have had several links to open about things that we're going to talk about on the show. And so I've had to resurrect the old iPhone out of the suitcase. All right. Well, maybe I'll have to tell you about the blue man. Yeah, please do. Paint me a pretty picture. I don't even know if I can. Let me tell you what I think the problem was.

Everything was too spread out. So there are these monumentally big things happening. But you don't know which bit of Paris you're in and there's not really audience for each bit and the Olympics is surely about coming together and uniting for that kind of glory feel which the montages perfectly showed but this was just a bit too like where are they now and now they're in a castle with some terrible golf band it was just a bit... Disjointed. Disjointed. Disjointed shit show.

And you had Lady Gaga playing and Celine Dion played, I believe, correct? Yeah, none of them floated my boat like they should have, unfortunately. And I love Celine Dion. I love Celine Dion too. No, you don't. Yeah, I do. Really?

Yeah. Let's sing her together sometimes. Who doesn't like Celine Dion? My mum. Oh. She really doesn't like Celine Dion? My mum. Oh. She really, she doesn't let me play her. I didn't know I could play that with you. We can totally do that.

What would get you going, Celine Dion-wise? I'm your lady. And you are my baby. Where were you at the Olympics, Lil? Where were you? See, it just needed that, a little bit more heart. It was a little too long and it needed a little bit of Lily. That's my conclusion to the Olympics.

Paris 2024. I would like to do more karaoke with you. No, I hate karaoke. I'll sing in like... No, I don't think you do. I don't think you do. I don't think you do. I went last year to my friend's karaoke party, Missy and Gabe.

It was Missy's birthday in Bethnal Green and I was like, oh God, karaoke. And I did Britney Spears. Sometimes I run, sometimes, sometimes I hide. So you do like karaoke, therefore. Sorry, sorry. I do like karaoke. Okay. So can we do karaoke together, therefore. Sorry, sorry. I do like karaoke. Okay.

So can we do karaoke together, please? Absolutely. But just not in front of others. Oh, wow, look, someone's just tried to spend $1,619 of mine on StubHub. Is that your children? No, my card's been cloned. I'm having to get a new credit card, but all these false charges keep coming through, and they keep sending me stuff like, is this you?

And I'm like, no, stop it. I hate when you see what someone who's stolen your card is buying. It feels like extra violation. Yeah. Like, I stole your card and now I'm in Asda. It's like, OK, I don't want to know what you're up to. Someone's trying to go to the Adele concert in Munich. Let's have a little breaky, shall we?

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Rogers. Sorry, I know that you're away and that we both are feeling a little fragile at the moment. and that we both are feeling a little fragile at the moment. But I think for me, that was exacerbated by the general happenings in the world. A few things that I saw that really fucked me up a bit last week. And then I actually saw Naima, cousin Naima, at the family barbecue and I said, how are you? And she was like, I actually am all fucked up.

And it was from the same things that I'd seen in the world. And I was like, yeah, it does start to sit with you a lot i was mainly the sonia massey story i didn't know you said you didn't know the story you had heard the story yeah because i haven't been on the internet and i haven't been consuming news so i mean absolutely did you see the video horrendous yes i watched the video yeah um if you don't know what the story is, it's a woman in Illinois, a black woman, calls the police because she thinks there's an intruder in her house. And when they arrive, she says, you're not going to hurt me, are you? And they say, why would we do that? You called us.

Two white policemen, they come into the house, they start asking her for identification. While she's looking for that, they then tell her to attend to a boiling pot of water that's on her cooker and it's just the general atmosphere in the room is just very violent and intimidating and the whole thing is filmed because the police had body cameras on them is that why it's all filmed both of them are meant to have had body cams on them but only the one that didn't shoot her he had his camera on the one that did shoot her turned his camera on once he'd shot her yeah so she goes to tend to the pot

of boiling water he then says something that scares her and she says i rebuke you in the name of jesus definitely scared definitely trying to protect herself through her faith in her religion and he pulls out his gun and says you better fucking not use the lord's name in vain and she says i'm sorry i'm sorry and that probably is the most terrifying moment when she says i'm sorry i'm sorry and shields her face and he shoots her three times in her face and murders her in her kitchen and this is a woman that called the police for help it actually unraveled my fear and terror that i keep really really low every single day of my life as a woman, really, about the fear of attack and the fear of not being protected

by the people that are meant to protect you. I mean, the Sarah Everard case, I think I did something really stupid, or I don't know whether it was stupid, but I read every detail of it a few weeks ago and couldn't get the terror of what that poor girl went through and the fact that it was again

another man who's meant to protect you using that power to abduct you and rape you and murder you he like set her body on fire and it's just like after a while it's just like how much more like can we hear without feeling like there is no one to protect us? Like, actually no one. There's also the story of the two young sisters in the park that were stabbed. Bieber, Henry and Nicole Smallman, just attacked by a really unwell young boy who was probably brought up in the same system and them and had no care. And did a terrible thing and murdered them and the police that were called to you know look after this investigation and take care of the family took selfies with the

dead bodies and sent them in a whatsapp group to their colleagues and mocked these girls and humiliated them in their death and in their murder and their mother said that it was just like it reminded her of pictures from America of people being lynched and hanging there and smiling faces or being around. And it does it after a while. You do feel like a spectator in this. You do feel like you're just witnessing all these horrors. And I think maybe one of the reasons I read everything I could is because I'm trying to control it, keep myself safe in some way. I mean, that fear. I know you feel it too that that fear Lil is very deep and dark and very familiar as a woman I think a lot of men maybe have a feral instinct and awareness of protecting

themselves if like things kick off well I don't know I don't actually feel like men are aware of it but what they do is they um they congregate together so that I feel like men are aware of it. But what they do is they congregate together so that I feel like they get the sort of protection of... When they feel weak, they look to other men to associate with, to feel protected, like, en masse. Maybe there's something extra terrifying about the fact that it's beyond one story. Think about all the things that aren't filmed.

The people that are meant to protect us don't and are murdering us and attacking us and raping us it's terrifying I do relate to what you're saying I'm not having so much as an as an emotional reaction to the conversation as you and I think you know I again I'm quite dissociated you, I had my stalker thing happen to me. I remember like around the time that things broke down with me and Sam, my ex-husband. And I was institutionalized because of my mental health. And then my stalker thing happened. So there was the hospitals and the police. And then quite soon after Grenfell happened and I felt like all of these institutions that are meant to protect us, the health service, the police and the fire service could not do that for me or for my community.

And I felt utterly terrified that these institutions that you're brought up with the idea that these people are here to protect you and to make you feel safe when things go wrong. And none of them had been able to deliver for me. And I'm an extremely privileged person. So if those institutions weren't able to protect me, I'm dreaded to think what else was going on in the world around me. Yeah, I think we grew up with it as well. I remember being around the black men in my life, Garfield, and also Uncle Sean Sean remembering their life and their reality of the way they were treated by the police it was a very standard violent

completely unjust unfair terrifying existence as a young black man in this country in the 70s 80s and I'm sure I'm sure it still fucking is but it just broke my soul absolutely broke my soul this week and i think uh i needed to talk to you about it because also the other thing is it becomes so like oh another story anyway and you shut it away and i realized i was like living in fear and then last week a girl went missing in my park and there were these posters everywhere saying missing missing a young 23 year old girl from literally five minutes from my house and I was just like but what are we meant to feel apart from terror thank god I had you know Zeddy and thank god I have my you know I'm lucky I have a lot of family and friends on my park and I had

to go like sort of stay with a few of them for a few hours before I went home what I wanted to explain was it doesn't feel new. It feels really old and really familiar. And that's what made me feel so sad last week. I was like, God, will this ever change? And I think we have to just change it ourselves. Well, actually, you know what? I don't know about the situation in England,

but I went up and did some reading on the Sonia Massey thing. And there was an article in the New York Times about, you know, after the Black Lives Matter movement, there was a lot of conversation around defunding the police. And there was this bit in this article that said, you know, this isn't a question of defunding the police, it's about funding some of the most promising community led innovations in municipal governance in recent decades. And President Biden's administration has invested hundreds of millions of dollars in community violence intervention and alternative responses

with bipartisan support in Congress. And the investment may be yielding results because we are in the midst of one of the steepest declines in the homicide rate in recorded history, despite the fact that little seems to have changed in police staffing in recent years. So things are moving in the right direction here in america at least and the police that were part of the sonia massey incident have been arrested for murder yes there's no manslaughter bullshit being put over there yes well i guess we have to look for the light in the in any corner that we can find really and i think it's about community it's about you know yeah the

police are not always the best equipped people to deal with situations like this yeah and when there needs to be more investment in other programs that can help people in need of help yeah i did do some work in the community uh last week genuinely it was the day after feeling really really low and one of the things i'm doing is um sort of trying to get as many people skipping as possible and we go to different communities and try and infiltrate the communities in different ways through different generations and uh just get them to skip and jump up and down and like feel some love and we did it with this wonderful organization called the lost project it's like this beautiful lady called Carly who spends her entire life building different organizations to heal women through bereavement and it was these women and kids um who I mean I

you know I heard some stories I didn't hear them all but I'm sure that all have all been through absolute hell and losing people that they love and I suddenly had them all around me and I was like right I guess now we just skip and we just had the most uplifting day all the people that I work with we just all felt so like connected and it does heal that connecting feeling it does heal and I feel like I just I actually do want to do more of that I asked you what good do you think you do for others and you were like oh I don't do anything but that's not true I found found something. What? I found something. What do I do for others? Really can't remember any, like, incredible trips that you took.

Yeah, I mean, that was a long time ago. But still, it's a lovely thing to do. I want to do more outreach work. And actually, a couple of weeks ago, when we spoke about sex workers, I have been in contact with this particular charity, which I am am you know talking to doing stuff for them so i there are and i am involved with sort of different charities and i

i do do stuff i tend to not really talk about it and you know the yes the fellowship of you know aa and na which i'm not really allowed to talk about but that is very much about a community. Hey, five years sober. Yay. Hey. Well fucking done, Lily. Thank you. Look at me. Look at me.

Stop it. Well fucking done. No, I won't stop it. I won't stop. I won't stop. Bloody proud of you. Five years feels like such a long time doesn't it

it's like a real chunk it's half a decade yeah I mean it's half a decade exactly it's half a decade and also there's just

there must be nothing well I know not from sobriety but just like learning to play tennis better there's nothing like committing and feeling

like you kept going and you find each day easier. I hope. Yeah, definitely. I know that's not always easy.

Definitely. Let's celebrate. What should we do? I went to a meeting in Malibu and celebrated and it was really lovely. It was very nice. Nice. See? Community.

All we all need is community. What did Andre Lord say? Audrey Lord. Sorry, Audrey. Let me not get say? Andre Lord. Sorry, Andre. Let me not get that wrong. My mum will kill me. You know, Andre Lord, yeah. What did Andre Lord say?

What did Andre Lord say? Without community, there is no liberation. And I think that means for oneself and for all of us. Yeah. Let's just fucking hold each other tight in these crazy days. Crazy days. I miss you. When am I going to be able to hold you tight?

Not for a while, I don't think. Should we tell people that I'm... Can we talk about that? Let's talk about it. There's a major possibility that next week I will not be talking to Lily Allen. I will be talking to David Harbour, who is married to Lily Allen. He's her husband. He's a great guy.

He's also extremely busy, but... Are we doing Miss Me with David from the Stranger Things set? No, you're going to be doing it from our house in Atlanta. Oh, yes, he has a house there. OK. Oh, that would have been fun. We. Oh.

We have a house there. It's our house. Because we're married. Damn straight. It's my property portfolio too. Noted. Why am I nervous? He'll be great.

Yeah, you know I love David. Like, out of all your husbands. This is the only one I'd want to do Miss Me with. All my husbands. All right, get out of here, you sexy thing. Go do as the Beverly Hills people do. What would that be? Shop?

No, I'm not allowed to shop anymore. I'm shopping too much. That's right, correct. But I'll just say that's a self-imposed shopping ban, by the way. Nobody's told me that I'm not allowed to shop. I'm just trying to actually be a better person. I've got a meeting this afternoon about maybe a potential musical that i might write and then tomorrow i'm getting my nails done and then i'm going to british columbia

to go and see the whales and the bears and um and i would do miss me from up there but there's no wi-fi so i can't um i'm ashamed that would be an incredible place to do it Yeah I'm really disconnecting How very LA have you? So LA Then I got my nails And then I gotta get to the airport To go to British Columbia Cause I'm gonna go see the black bears Cause I'm literally gonna go and like

See the whales and the bears I'm gonna like disconnect And like see the whales and the bears Yeah And um Just like eat really healthy food and just like really get at one with nature, you know? Yeah. Like totally. And then post about it, right?

Okay, cool. Yeah. I'll obviously be TikToking when I get back. All right, babe. I'll see you later. All right, babes. Bye. Bye. alright bib I'll see you later alright bibs bye bye

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