Miss Me? - Listen Bitch! Bull Moon

Episode Date: May 20, 2024

Lily Allen and Miquita Oliver answer your questions about astrology. Do they have the typical traits of their sign? Is it just a distraction? What happens when Saturn returns?Next week, we want to hear your questions about POO. Please send us a voice note on WhatsApp: [phone]. Or, if you like, send us an email: [e-mail] episode contains very strong language and adult themes.Producer: Jonathan O’Sullivan Technical Producer: Will Gibson Smith Production Coordinator: Hannah Bennett Executive Producers: Dino Sofos and Ellie Clifford Assistant Commissioner for BBC: Lorraine Okuefuna Commissioning Editor for BBC: Dylan Haskins Miss Me? is a Persephonica production for BBC Sounds.

This is the BBC. This podcast is supported by advertising outside the UK. on Rogers Internet. Visit rogers.com for details. We got you. Rogers. BBC Sounds. Music, radio, podcasts. This week's episode of Listen Bitch contains very strong language and some adult themes as well. just stop talking to me unless we're recording okay unless we're recording i don't know you we've been rolling that's a very appropriate thing for you to say in this top look at you

you look like a rough rider come get me get though. It's a rough rider, yo. Oh, we're going to ride through the stars right about now. Exactly. Let's fly through the galaxy with this one. Come we go. The theme this week on Listen Bitch is... Astrology. Now, this could take us to so many places.

The world of astrology is a minefield. I do have a very spiritual, connected cousin called Phoebe, who is basically Lily's cousin as well. And what she was saying, I really like this, Lil. Actually, I did think if we get stuck today, we can always call Phoebes. Phoebes is here for for everyone because she just really knows how to describe things but she said when she was talking about like if we're thinking about like you know astrology when the stars and um the planets were named and you know when this is

we're talking about like the origins of this shit she was like think about it the night sky was almost like the theater right so there's nothing to look at and the night sky is the most interesting thing to look at and then the planets are like archetypal characters venus is like beauty and love if that makes sense and then like mars represents like war i'm trying to explain that like astrology mirrors everything in the world that happened then and today and mirrors parts of ourselves does that make sense yes yeah you on board with this i'm on board with that that's where we'll just start because who the fuck knows what we'll get asked but i'm very intrigued would you like to ask the first you look

like you're gonna ask me a question no i just would suddenly like as you were talking i've remembered that because you're talking about you me a question. No, I just would suddenly, like, as you were talking, I've remembered that, because you were talking about, you know, when the naming of the planets and everything happened, and I suddenly remembered, like, snippet of trivia that I had in my brain about Princess Margaret being responsible for, like, modern horoscopes as we know them. Did you know about this? Wow, that's such a Princess Margaret thing to do.

Popularise astrology. Phoebe did tell me something about you that I didn didn't know i wonder if you remember this story she said because i had my palm read by my neighbor and friend kerry uh the other day it was very interesting and she said um phoebe said that she'd had her palm read by our friend ruby's husband dimitri and that he read your palm at port elliott about five years ago and it was like I think it's the last weekend you drank right yeah and you had quite a tough time at that festival and he read your palm and said to you you're gonna get married next year and you were like don't be ridiculous I'm 37 wow didn't you marry David the next year yeah i did but also i don't remember this that's probably

why i gave up drinking after that weekend and that's why yes this sobriety was around the corner so i think we've both explained that we believe in magic let's do this let's talk about the stars with the country this is so fun let's have our first bloody question hi makita and lily it's lazily from scotland central scotland just wanted to ask do you think you have the typical traits of your star sign now i noticed that you're both taurus and you are both very compatible together, which would make sense as you're both best friends. So do you think you have the typical traits of a Taurian? Is that what you would call it? Thanks. Bye.

Thank you. I actually think our Taurian traits are where we butted heads the most in our relationship because we are both Taurians. Very much so. Do you think you're a Taurus? Very much so. I actually think all Taurians look like bulls in quite a good way. I definitely look like a bull and so do you. So does our friend Charlie Crockett, for sure.

I don't think David Beckham, who's got my birthday, is giving bull, to be honest. But Donatella Versace is. Bull. Bull. Big bull. I think someone... She gives big bull energy.

Someone else. Once you know, you can't stop seeing it. And that's how I'll end that. Okay. Once you know. But I think loyal. We're mad loyal, Rav. And stubborn.

And earthy. Because obviously there are earth signs, air signs, fire signs and water signs. Apparently, I think that Taurians like the finer things in life, where they're big into comfort and home, which for me is definitely true. I wish we'd done your chart, then we'd know, because me and Phoebe really want to know what your moon moon sign is because your moon sign is like your intuition your emotions right and as you get older you know if you are growing as one should in life then you do get a lot more into like

becoming more your moon sign wonder what it is might be Scorpio or something insane. I mean, do you know that I am also, what do we call, is it Chinese astrology? No, I don't know what it is, but I'm also year of the bull. So I'm double bull.

Oh, I'm rat. Yeah, but I am Taurus and I am a bull. I'm bull in a china shop. And in this red and black, you do look a little bit like, you know,

like a, oh, I know what you mean. A bull tamer? For the Spanish people. What are they called? Yeah, a fedora, I was going to say. No, that's a hat. and black you do look a little bit like you know like uh oh i know what you mean for the spanish people what are they called yeah a fedora i was gonna say no that's a hat what is the man in charge of the bull matador matador yes you have a matador and you have a sombrero and you have a real sombrero energy right now that's interesting bulls, do you think that we're looking for men

to tame the bull within, but be our matador? No, I think I reject the idea of matadorism. I feel that in some ways, I mean, you know, I am just a big old walking contradiction, but I think, you know, one hand, yes, I would like daddy to look after me and matador me, but also as soon as it actually happens, I'm like, get the fuck away from me. Yeah, but that's so the bull's energy in that dynamic.

Right, okay. Yeah, like, move from me, mum. Very much so. But also, sometimes I'll play your game with you, Matador. Yeah, sure. You know, we definitely both got some Taurean traits going on for sure. Can we have another question? Hi, Lily and Makita.

I am Amy and I am voice noting in from Brighton, England. I think there's been a massive increase in people getting quite interested in astrology, taking it seriously, using it to make decisions about their lives and I think this is something to do with the fact that the world is increasingly chaotic and that many of us either feel disempowered or are genuinely disempowered and do not have much control over lots of circumstances and that astrology is a way of giving us a perceived sense of power when we perhaps don't have any. And I think this might be why astrology is popular among groups that are traditionally quite disempowered, including women. is just a bit of a false prophet and actually is astrology actually just a distraction and maybe

getting in the way of us particularly women and maybe other marginalized groups having real power and real agency thank you what a question gosh what an interesting question do you want to go first or shall i you go first uh yeah i think that there's a lot of truth to what Amy says about you know people particularly more oppressed people within society disenfranchised people latching on to something that maybe helps them feel more in control of their life and much like religion. Yes. I sort of attribute it to the same thing. Like, you know, whatever helps people get through life, right, is a good thing. And I am never going to tell anybody that they shouldn't believe in any sort of God or the stars or whatever it is that tickles their fancy. It's a higher power thing, right? It's about surrendering yourself to the idea that the world doesn't revolve around you.

And connecting to something that is bigger than you. Yes. And community to a certain extent as well. So I think that it has its purpose. But I think when people start to make important decisions based on their religious beliefs or astrology is when you start to miss me a little bit. Yes yes i think when people start to talk about astrology in very serious terms and like you know where they want to live or like you know what school place they're going to accept for their children like i start to think like are you out of your fucking mind but you know whatever floats your boat but it's about what you do with it in your life isn't it and also how you let it run through your life because it's like if we're talking about bringing

things in to your life like manifesting or something that's all great that's all lovely but like you have to be living in a service to others it's not just about like i think when people use astrology to like get find their perfect mate or get sometimes it's like to get their perfect car. And I totally understand that we want things in life, but it's actually about learning how to kind of flow with the universe. And I think within that flow is a lot of service. Like, how do you live your life and what do you do for others? It's not just about what you want to call into your life. I thought it was interesting what Amy said about women, like sort of like, is it as

powerful as something actual in the world? And I do believe that astrology and living by the stars and the moon and the universe, I actually do believe that can be very powerful in the world and can turn into very actual, very tangible things in the world. I've seen that happen in my life in the last five years, deeply. Can you give me an example of that? My flat? I'm sitting in it. Even this office. Yeah so tell me how. So I suppose I didn't just call in a nice flat I had to do some things for myself which is find the courage to live alone and then suddenly this beautiful new place to live in opened up and I wasn't too scared to let it in my life because I'd started living alone at my last flat. And that I had to use the universe to get over that like really old, deep fear of being in the house on my own because of growing up with someone really violent and dangerous living downstairs for 14 years who threatened me and my mom constantly.

So I never felt like home was safe so this all came because i kind of let something go and worked with something old and i didn't just go i want a new flat i'm gonna call it in it's like that's and but you used astrology to do that or spirituality just generally yes but yes i did a lot of tarot right which ties in with astrology and ties in with um science like it's physics a lot of letting things go and calling things in that's what I like a lot about it there's quite a lot of physics to support it is it making you think well it's just interesting I feel like you know people lean on the church or you know their whatever institutions it is that they believe in to do the same to be able to give them some kind of inner strength.

It's about putting your trust in something, whether, you know, God or the stars or whatever it is. But then so much of religion has been used and twisted to destroy people. Yes. In the name of God. Yeah. I suppose there's no sort of central office for astrology so that's quite helpful that there isn't like it hasn't been harnessed by an actual group of people in which to control yes there's there's freedom in it still isn't there yeah it's too big for that maybe which feels quite powerful it feels like something that can't really

be taken over by the wrong hands no central office no central office for astrology correct there's no astrology hr you can go and complain to no excuse me there's nothing this is inaccurate no not yet can we have another question for listen bitch hey guys my name is josey and i live in brighton but i'm from east london i have like a manifesting coincidence it's slightly astrological as well so i actually manifested my boyfriend um i wrote a perfect partner manifestation one day in lockdown and then that year i met my partner on my birthday and when we were chatting later on like a few weeks later he told me his birthday and it was the 22nd of April and then when I looked back through my book I'd seen that I had written that manifestation for a perfect partner on the 22nd

of April that year and everything in it was my partner Callum and I find that things like this happen all the time like coincidences that feel very fated and astrological he's a Taurus I'm a Virgo we're extremely well suited and I love him very much have you guys ever had an experience like this and that feels like it was meant to be fated I would love to know. Thanks, babe. Ah, what a great story. I've heard about this, of course, happening quite a lot, people manifesting their mate. Viola Davis, the actress,

talked about doing that with her husband. And she said the trick is to be very specific. Don't just be like, a man who works in finance. It's like, how tall is he? What part of finance? What colour are his eyes? How does he feel about this? Don't just be like a man who works in finance. It's like, how tall is he? What part of finance? What color is his eyes? How does he feel about this?

Like you've, and actually I did a version about two years ago and I called it building a bray. Okay, build a bray. Because build a bear? Yes, I get it. I thought you'd be more proud of that. That's quite you. Oh God, I can't imagine anything worse. What than writing down what you're looking for in a potential partner?

Yeah. I mean, I just find it so hard to identify what it is that I want in any situation. Well, that's why these lists are quite good, because, again, you have to be specific. So it's quite good for you. I don't know. I think that I am somebody that I, and I don't think that it's a good quality of mine, but I think that I often let life happen to me rather than, you know, have intentions and going to find them.

We've talked about it a little bit before. Like I don't really have like long-term goals. I don't, you know I I'm just here to like experience whatever the world throws at me and um and boy do I I was like god it's thrown so much I would really struggle with that blank page I mean I've got my dream guy I love my husband and but I would definitely not have been able to write a list of things that I wanted. Shall I find one from my list? I'll tell you what my, what is usually is somebody that calls me back.

See, that's the only thing that I'm after. Astrology, Venus, the, you know, palette of love and fulfillment and beauty and female sexuality would say dream bigger. Yeah, perhaps I need to. Should I get my building a prayer list up and we'll just say dream bigger yeah perhaps i need to should i get my building a brand list up and we'll just say one thing that was on it one was definitely wears joggers well joggers that knows how to wear tracksuit bottoms oh my god okay wow i think call me back is better than's joggers well definitely kind is on there somewhere I can't find it but anyway back to our caller oh here it is there you go knows how to tell a story okay that's better when she was talking us through the things that she manifested and what she calls

sort of coincidences I wonder if that's just like somebody that needs to feel like they've made the right decision and so they use all these things these patterns to prop up her own sort of decision making does that make sense it's like well no he is the right person for me to be with because you know I manifested him on his birthday yeah it's like so but the thing is he it's like those who don't believe in magic never find it maybe she needs to believe that sometimes things are nicer with a bit of sprinkle of magic all over them i actually kind of just totally am with her like i do feel like they were fated and meant to be cynical emotional yeah the two sides of the coin will become very apparent in this episode of listen bitch i think okay can we have another question hi my name's molly and i live in leeds my question is based

on saturn returns saturn returns is a special moment when saturn returns it's the same place in the sky as when you were born. Psychologically, it's believed to be a time when you reach full adulthood and face new challenges and responsibilities. So I am turning 29 this Friday. And since the beginning of the year, I've already had a feeling of a shift in my desires and friendships, family life and work. So my question is, how did you feel leading up to your 30s

and was there a noticeable shift in your wants and needs during that time? Thank you very much. Great question. Thank you, Molly, for that wonderful question. Makita, I think we'll go with you first. Oh, Molly, Saturn's Return is no fucking joke. No joke. Your life blows the fuck up. Mine definitely did. Just to explain what Saturn's return is no fucking joke. No joke. Your life blows the fuck up.

Mine definitely did. Just to explain what Saturn's return is, because again, I think that's something that's come into kind of like colloquial language. It's when Saturn lands in the same place in the sky it did when you were born. So it's kind of, you will reflect on the life you've had so far.

And things might blow up. They usually do around 28. And then there's also this incredibly delicious chance for opportunity if you are brave enough that's kind of how I see Santa's return going into my 30s I was afraid and a little lost my mum and dad were running a pub that I was spending quite a lot of time at called the bird cage and i didn't know what i was doing with my career and i was going out with a very sweet boy that i didn't really love so it was all a bit up in the air for me but at 28 actual 28 was um nuts because 27 i went bankrupt and 28 i got my career back a little bit and i think that shows the duality of saturn's

return it's sort of like and then it's like oh it's an opportunity sort of like that you had And 28, I got my career back a little bit. And I think that shows the duality of Saturn's return. It's sort of like, ah! And then it's like, oh, it's an opportunity. Sort of like that. You had Marnie at 28. 2013. So yeah, I was 28 when I had her. Right.

But it was also, you know, when I went out to tour Sheezus, which was my first sort of commercial disaster. And when my life began to spiral out of control and um I lost everything that I'd had gained in the early parts of my career so and my mind all things you held dear to you yeah god that was such a difficult time. Is that the Miley Cyrus tour? Yes, yeah. It was when I started, you know, behaving in sort of all manner of like outrageous ways that kind of went against so much of what I believed in and what was sort of serving me.

But I guess in the long term, it brought me to where I am now. So... Very Saturn's return. Yes, it was a difficult, difficult difficult time sorry we don't have better news it's gonna be tricky what will we do because i'm good now but i mean i don't it was like it's taken me like 10 years to get here this is what i mean this is quite big news for someone who's just about to turn 30 it's like oh okay so it's gonna be tricky for a few more years we're gonna take a little break and we will be back with more of your questions to us about astrology,

which I'm very much enjoying on this week's episode of Listen Bitch. OK, could we have another question please? Hi Lily, hi Miqueta. So I'm Nelson, I'm from Portugal but currently living in Paris. And my question for you is, is there any sign that gives you that ick? Like a lot of people don't really like Scorpios, which I don't really understand why. But yeah, I'd like to know if you have any particular sign that you don't really get along with and if so which one is it oh I'm a Pisces by the way bye who did he say the end I'm a Pisces oh I'm a Pisces by the

way I love you Nelson I realized I've dated four Sagitt, which is quite a lot of any one sign. And then when I reconnected with my father five years ago, I found out he's a Sagittarian, so... Mmm, daddy. Chasing that energy somewhat. My sisters are Sagittarius, and I think Ethel's a Sagittarius. Oh, great. I'm actually talking about Sagittarian men. My nan's a Sagittarius. Sagittarian women are a bit different.

Tell me more. Let me get my Phoebe notes. Marnie, my other daughter, is a Capricorn. She's January the 8th. Does that make sense? Capricorn? A go-getter. And ruthless.

My child is a ruthless go-getter. She is. I think she'll be an agent. Oh, my God. That's such a good idea. I can see her with like a bob. No, you know what? Actually, we were talking about jobs the other day

and I can't remember how it came up, but we were sitting on the stairs, me, my mum and Sam, her dad, and it came up. Oh, because she's dissecting a squid this week in school. So I guess in biology, they're dissecting squids that's so American I really don't think we do that I was like you better not get too into that you know

like cutting animals up weird thing to say and then I was like all humans and I was like actually I can kind of see you as a pathologist it suddenly made sense I was like yeah I feel like you might work with dead people it just came came to me. Your life career. Yeah. No, I think she'll be either an agent or a pathologist, one of the two. But no, she is ruthless. You know, if you cross her, she will cut a bit.

Really? Marnie, yeah? That's my goddaughter you're talking about. Wow. We're done out here. We're done out here. I'm quite proud of her for having that trait. Come on, Marnie. There's literally, like, no, not even willing to, like, revisit remotely. out here we're done out here i'm quite proud of her for having that trait yeah she's good there's

literally like no not even willing to like revisit remotely there was one friend that she had that she'd basically asked that she wasn't going to be in school for a birthday party and so she'd given a birthday present to a mate of hers to get to pass on to the other person but the other person whose birthday it was also was sick i think it was in COVID. And so the girl that she'd given the present to had kept the present, which was edible for herself. And Marnie was outraged. She was like, I can't believe that this has happened. And I was like, I mean, I get it.

You know, like it's quite tempting having like a bag of sweets at the end of your room. Like you've got to like look after. Anyway, I was like, you know, I think you should forgive her. And she was like, no, she's dead to me. Can's dead to me forever again and you know she ain't fucking playing she hasn't called her since has not called her since sometimes she'll be like do you remember what she did mum and i'm like yeah she held on to a bag of sweets a little bit too long so she's an earth sign like you. Like you're a Taurus. So you might kind of bond on that.

All right. So what was the actual question? Does any sign give you the ick? No, I don't think there's a sign where I'd be like, I wouldn't be friends with her because she's a Libra. Like I don't think her. Pisces men. Oh, he knows a Pisces.

He just told us. Also, don't come for Pisces yet because i'm a pisces moon and as i'm going into that more and more careful you might have some pisces in you when you do your chart okay probably why it gives me the ick yeah possibly that would make sense mirroring i think we've answered that question let's have a bloody number one. Hi, Lily Makita. This is Grace from East London, originally Bethnal Green, and now an area called Little Ilford. I absolutely love astrology

to the extent that listening to last week's episode, I made an involuntary noise and gesture on the tube when I heard that, Makita, you had a Pisces moon because I'd been wondering the whole time since you started crying, thinking of your friend leaving London. And by the way, I'm a Pisces sun, so there's no judgment there on feeling feelings. But yeah, I absolutely love astrology, but not all my friends necessarily do. A lot of them indifferent to bored by the subject.

So my question is, when you're in mixed company or when you're talking in your group of friends you know not everyone's into astrology where do you draw the line how much is too much and how do you navigate that balance either makita is someone who's really into it or lily someone who doesn't know much about it and is new to it. Thank you. Thank you for that question. I wouldn't say I'm new to it. You're new to all this universe stuff, aren't you? No.

It's a quiet night. No. I think I'm quite tolerant these days to this sort of thing. That word is quite telling. Tolerant isn't really like let's open up our arms and dance in the galaxy together well look at me i've set the subject matter i'm open to most things in this day and age thank you for understanding where pisces moon and seeing that that might be why i get very emotional all the time that was really sweet i felt very

seen in that moment it's very nice what is the question why can't i remember anything today basically are we good with our mates yeah i mean i'm basically i'm over here with my witch's coven and lily hasn't entered it yet that's how i see it no can you stop saying yet like there's an inevitability of me like surrendering to the gods no i don't i'm not gonna like sacrifice you I just mean... I don't... I'm not going to like sacrifice you. I just mean coming over and having a tarot reading with Kerry. Okay.

Yeah. I mean, I'll be willing to do that. Yeah. Whether or not it will stick and I'll start like living my life by my tarot cards remains to be seen. But I'm willing to tolerate an afternoon of Kerry reading my tarot for me.

Yes. Very big of you. People pay good money for Kerry to read her tarot. Like, she's amazing. It wouldn't be about implementing it into your life to such a high degree, but it might make you think. And because you are very smart

and I love the way your mind works, I'd be interested in your take on it. Knowing you, you'd probably take information from some sort of spiritual gathering and find something else within it. I mean, i can do that i can sit through a church service or any kind of religious ceremony and i can take what i need from it you know i think that all of this stuff is like it's open to interpretation like

isn't that the whole point of it yes that you take from it what you need and you project onto it what you want i wonder what your mars sign is because um mars is uh one's fucking and fighting sign so it's like how you assert yourself in sex and work i don't think i have a mars let's have another question hi my name's rosie i'm from scotland but i've lived in southwest london for the last year and a half I'm also a tourist like both of you My question is on astrology I've just seen an interview that Dua Lipa did where she said

that she has like a professional astrologer or astrologist I don't know what the right word is on her payroll as part of her team and I was just wondering what your opinion was on this. Thank you, love you both Bye. Astrologer. Love you both. Bye.

Astrologer on team, Yana. Yes, that sounds like my cup of tea. Is that the question? Do you want that in your life? Yes, I do. I guess she's saying, what do you think about having somebody like that on the payroll? I mean, again, like whatever floats your boat, isn't it? Like if that's what helps her get through the day

and, you know, she's achieving lots, like she's doing big things in the world. And if that's what she feels that she needs to give her like some sort of centering, then that's what's working for her. So I wouldn't say anything other than you go do her. You answer the next question, bitch. Can we have the last question, please?

In this top with that new hair and these earrings i'm like what you're becoming a new artist in front of me someone needs an astrologer on the payroll no no but i feel like i don't know you're getting a bit Rosalia do you reckon yeah you're getting a bit Rosalia sticker on the mood board definitely sticker on the mood board what mood board are you talking about

for the artist that you're gonna become when you put music out again I'll just be me how about I'll just be me yeah okay you can do that thanks wow so full of enthusiasm. Last question, please. Hi, Lily and Makita. It's Ruby.

And Ella. And we're at the University of Sheffield. I'm originally from Sevenoaks. And I'm originally from Stratford-upon-Avon. We're both 21, and this and bitch is the main thing getting us through our library sessions right now. Makita, your laugh is infectious, and I find myself having to hold it in when I'm in the middle of the library. Lily, I love your music. I've been

listening to it since I was five and my dad would play Alright Still in the car on our way to Devon on our summer holidays. It's a core memory. Our question is, do you think people in today's society use their star signs to justify poor behaviour and negative personality traits? And do you think you've ever been guilty of this? I'm personally a Taurus and one of the Taurus personality traits is jealousy. And I feel like I've definitely used it to justify being really unnecessarily jealous of this. And I'm a Pisces and I'm so indecisive and I think being a Pisces I just use that to justify that indecisiveness love listen bitch last week

we're so excited for a future of never being able to afford any property so that was a really fun listen thanks thank you bye I love it okay I actually want to cry that was so cute i mean that was lovely we have more of that actually next week we only want pairs duos next week we're looking for duos did you just clock that all right still was played by their dad and they're 21 that scared me a little bit i was like oh right course. Yeah. I guess I blocked it out. Ruby and Ella. Not to be confused with what Ella? No. I feel like I don't think there's ever been a part of me that's been to David.

Like, I'm just being stubborn because I'm a Taurus. Like, whatever. That would not fly with my husband. He'd be like, get out of my fucking house. You never relate back to it. You don't say that maybe that's just the Taurian in me. I love the idea of me like handing over the credit card to like pay for more expensive furniture just being

like i just like quick to comfort it's like comfort you know it's just it's just who i am babe it's just my chart materialistic so just pass the card pisces what is David sorry Aries really just give us that credit card Aries man Aries is a fit sign there's an Aries that I fancy and it's very much because he's an Aries Aries is fit that's the ram yes yes ram and bull famously go so well together. Surely that's quite a fun time, right? Like, I think so. Oh, well, it can be.

If the mood's right. If the lighting's good. With the right lighting. But what characteristics in David do you think lend themselves to being an Aries? I don't know, because I don't know anything about Arieses. Come on, let's find out who the hell your husband is. Let's find out

who you married. I mean, I know who he is so I don't need this bit of Wikipedia horoscopism to tell me but you go. Are you sure he's not loud? It's fine.

Loud, proud, strong and brave. Oh, he's definitely a couple of those things. They are the baby of the Zodiac so therefore they're most raw with their needs demands and emotions now listen i don't want to like star sign shame david on listen bitch but star shaming don't want to star shame yeah i'm not going to shame him. I think that some of those things seem accurate,

but I think they also seem accurate for people that aren't Aries. Like, you know, I could say that same thing about my mum. Do you feel like you have any of your negative traits and you've justified them because of your star sign? No, never. I think when I'm being an arsehole, I'm just being an arsehole. So I hope we all understand astrology and the world around us a bit more i think we've done that it's meant a lot to me to share astrology with the world today

no it was my gift to you it was actually it was nice i have no idea what to give you oh yes i do i know what to give you i know exactly what to give you okay lily actually asked her darling daughter ethel about some listen bitch topics we're not running out don't worry we're not Give me a return. Okay. Lily actually asked her darling daughter, Ethel, about some Listen Bitch topics. We're not running out. Don't worry. We're not running out. We may have to start asking you, the audience.

No. And Ethel came up with a few good ones. My least favourite is Lily's favourite, and we're going to go with it. I have no idea how this can take us to anywhere good, but Lily believes it can. Let's go for it. The theme of next week's Listen Bitch is...

Who? And I'm not joking. Give me one place that this will go that's not down a loo. Well, I'm hoping that this is going to take us to number one in the charts. Or at least number two. Or number two. two see it's just going to be toilet humor i can't with this next week well you've done it now well the next week's theme is poo um let's try and do poo without laughing toilet humor should we try without

doing laughing or toilet humor let's get really serious yeah and that's my gift to you all of your messages about poo could you please forward them to 08000 30 40 90 that's any voice notes you have related to poo could you please send them to 08000 30 40 90 big week of poo next week yay thanks ethel, Ethel. Ethel's going to be so made up. It's been lovely, but I have to go. OK. I'll probably call you in two hours. All right, I'll see you then. Thanks for listening to Miss Me

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