Miss Me? - Listen Bitch! Summer Buzzin

Episode Date: June 24, 2024

Lily Allen and Miquita Oliver answer your questions about endings. How do they know when it’s time to end something? Have they ever regretted the way things have ended? How would they want their careers to end? Next week, we want to hear your questions about RAVING. Please send us a voice note on WhatsApp: [phone]. Or, if you like, send us an email: [e-mail] episode contains very strong language and adult themes.Credits: Producer: Flossie Barratt Technical Producer: Will Gibson Smith Production Coordinator: Hannah Bennett Executive Producers: Dino Sofos and Ellie Clifford Assistant Commissioner for BBC: Lorraine Okuefuna Commissioning Editor for BBC: Dylan HaskinsMiss Me? is a Persephonica production for BBC Sounds

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murderation of mosquitoes. Murderation, you know. What time is it? It's listen bitch time. It's listen bitch time. How you doing people?

It's listen bitch o'clock. It's listen bitch o'clock. It's Listen Bitch o'clock. You better believe it. We have been talking, me and Lil, about, well, we think it's time for some merch, and we've decided to start with the sex stool. And also, of course, the wooden spoon.

It's going to be a very simple, wooden, very sleek, Scandinavian looking stool with just Miss Me logo on the top. And then also maybe a wooden spoon for Miss Me. And of course we're referencing our kink episode from last week. The sex stool. Some of you may have

listened to. You can't stop the sex stool. It's everywhere. Now of course we'll be doing phone cases and t-shirts of course of course we're savvy business women we'll keep it real lanyards do you know what do you know what i really want to happen is this really embarrassing uh you know how that tune you put over the miss me stall when you posted it and it's like somebody gonna match my freak i really want someone to talk about miss me in a song like um when i was younger i think so solid crew said my name in a song once and i was

totally gassed uh i was like 18 and i would really like it if someone was like you'd better listen bitch like lillian mckee or like you better miss me like lillian mckee something like that just putting that out to any artists that want to drop that in their song. Who would I like to do that? Drake? J-Hus? Yeah, I'm trying to think how. We have to rhyme something with Makita.

It would have to be like. Oh, that's the tricky one. Steeper? Deeper? No, it would have to be like, you know. Come on. Man's got a badge like Blue Peter. Listen, it's a miss me, Lily and Makita.

Yes! Yes! That's exactly what it's going to be. Man's got a badge like Blue Peter. Okay, we are obviously on fire. It's time to take some questions. I'm just trying to think about what context man would have a badge, by the way.

Why he'd be talking about it in his song i feel like dave would have a blue peter badge maybe he's just made it he's just become a detective okay don't hurt yourself babe it was good leave it alone the theme for this week's listen bitch is endings endings you know endings don't have to be negative. They can be really important, actually, really positive. And every ending is the start of a new beginning. Every door closes, another one opens, etc. Can we have the first question?

Let's have a question. Hi, Lily and Nikita. This is Niki from the Netherlands. I'm a big fan of the podcast um related to endings I was wondering do you feel when it's time to go or when it's time to end something and if so when do you decide that it's enough thank you bye bye nice to the point to the point thank you god it's nice to know that you're listening in the Netherlands. I think that's fantastic that Miss Mia's travelled to the Netherlands. Um, I do it a lot in work. Simon Amstel taught me to end things before you think they should end.

Like, and his example was always faulty towers. And he was always like, why do you think people still like faulty towers? And I was like, why? He's like, because there was one series. And I was like, okay. And so I've done it a lot in work things. Leave before you can't stand what you're doing, or leave before something tells you. Usually your gut tells you to end something

before you actually want to. Listen to your gut as much as you can in life. It's usually telling you the right thing. Do you always know when it's time telling you the right thing do you always know when it's time to end things no no absolutely not i'll just take like you know partying in my 20s as a good example never do you know a version of us not knowing how to end things buzz okay so there used to be this computer game this interactive music quiz that you could play on the playstation back in the day and you you plug it in it had like consoles with like a buzzer and

four colored buttons on it so there'd be like a quiz round and you could sit there and you could buzz the answer and then everyone had their own controller and for some reason it became the best after party game ever probably not but it was all we wanted to do so nights that would have ended at like two went on to like seven because of 11 purely purely buzz like a nice six hour buzz game at the end it got to the point where like we knew all of the questions in the game. And so like you only have to have like the first two words of the question flash up on the screen and you'd already know the answer. It was more of a race to get there rather than actually answering the question. That was after like year two of buzz.

Fucking hell. I love that game. If anyone ever wants to doesn't know what to get me for a present is an old sony playstation with the buzz controllers and the buzz game oh my god i'd be very happy with that thing about buzz is lily i think it would be just as fun sober do you yes let's try it summer of buzz anyway the three people who were there with us for Buzz, like committed Buzz people, you know who you are. Do you know who they are? I don't know who they are. Literally can't remember.

Tom Sturridge. He was quite passionate about Buzz. I think that was it, actually. I think it was just me. No, no. Kelly Okeregi. About Charlie Crockett. Charlie Crockett, maybe.

I played with Kelly Okeregi. I never played with kelly sorry kelly sorry kelly from rock party bringing you out as a buzz head all right next question please on endings hi lily hi mikita um my name is isabel i'm from switzerland anyway love the podcast trying to follow up with all the episodes. About endings, I'm thinking of endings of relationships. What's your take on it? A friend recently told me that for a relationship he had with his previous girlfriend, the last maybe six months were really bad.

So the breakup was actually the end of the relationship. When for me, sometimes the breakup is actually only the beginning of the end of the relationship when for me sometimes the breakup is actually only the beginning of the end and after that it's not like for my friend a relief but it's actually the start of month of sadness and rethinking of everything that happened until the actual end so yeah I was wondering what was your point of view on that and the different experience you might have? I'd like her to sing me a lullaby. Sweet voice. Gentle tone. Thank you for that lovely question.

The thing is, I've got quite a good spidey sense for being dumped. So I will always try and get in there first. So I'll do something horrendous to um control the dumping if that makes sense wow one step ahead of the dump that's pretty yeah it's very instinctive although once I was caught off guard where Lester my first proper boyfriend he went sailing around the world with a friend of his on a boat and I couldn't get hold of him and the only way that we could communicate with each other was by satellite phone.

But when I would call it, it would cost like 20 pounds a minute or something. It was like absolutely ridiculous. So you're still together, but he was away. Yeah, but I think in his head, he was like, I just can't face dumping her. So I'm just going to go away. And then I remember like, you know,

a few weeks into him having left me calling him on this satellite phone and saying, you know, you know, why haven't you called me? Don't you want to be with me? And him just going, no. Oh, Lester, fuck, that's harsh. And I was like heartbroken because he was my first love and he'd broken up with me, but also wanting to carry on this conversation, but also aware that I was being charged about 20 pounds a minute. wanting to carry on this conversation but also aware that i was being charged about 20 pounds a minute 20 20 quid a minute to like be completely torn apart from the inside out wow it was it was really bad on several levels but he was actually you know who was on that boat trip with him was sam my future husband who's now my past husband but you know um but you get it the way well the world works yeah the way the world works. The way the world works.

Yes. Well, that's interesting because, well, I'll tell you even more the way the world works. You're marrying him. He is my fiance. No. Or Lester, oh my God. No, the way the world works is that the lady was talking about

how her friend was breaking up with their partner and then they were about to start a month of real sadness and i remember what that kind of few months after that breakup was like you were at danny and judy's your godparents house a few streets from my house and you were downstairs in that living room a lot working on your you were just on your computer on your laptop constantly i was like what the fuck is she doing definitely trying to just drag you out to the pub to get drunk but you were working on music and it was the beginning of everything so yes endings are truly really beginnings aren't they and i wrote my seminal pop hit smile about him about lester so uh who won that little moment I think I won that round I don't know if I've won at life yeah no Lester's very happy with his girlfriend Kessler who was part of our family

as well and you're very happy so everyone won yay all the winning yay but i like that is an ending really just a beginning something for everyone to sit with good you want to ask for the next question do i do i want to ask for it i think i do yes hi lillian mckee uh my name's robbie i'm originally from birmingham i'm 18 years old um i'm now actually living in derbyshire in a little town, city, I don't actually know what it is, called Ilkeston, because I know you like the backgrounds. My question on endings is actually about like movies slash TV series. So have you ever got to the end of a series or anything like that and then you're like, shit, like it's over now and I'm not happy with the ending. And then you're like, shit, like it's over now. And I'm not happy with the ending.

Like you just sat there like, well, that's a bit shit. Or like you've got like an emotional connection with that series. And now you're like, you know, you're like, shit, it's done. Like you literally don't know what to do with yourself. So, yeah, that's my question. Love the podcast, guys. Robbie. Yes, yes, Robbie.

Love that we've got 18 year old boys from Birmingham that now live in Derbyshire listening to our show. That's fantastic, right? Yeah, I feel like that all the time. I feel Game of Thrones was a big one for me. I've literally felt bereft after it had stopped. Did you find it weird watching Alfie in it? I didn't know you watched Game of Thrones. No, my brother is such a fantastic actor

I didn't even realise I was watching my brother. Wow. I just absolutely loved that series and thought it was utterly incredible. Sopranos. I mean, so many. So many. I think you were emotional after the Sopranos. Damages.

Did you ever watch Damages with Glenn Close? Yeah. No. So good. The West Wing. What I would give for more West Wing. I just absolutely adored the West Wing. I get very, very attached to TV shows

and I feel very, very sad. But saying that, actually House of the Dragon, which is the second season of the follow-up to Game of Thrones or the prequel, whatever you want to call it, just started yesterday, but I can't watch it because I'm in Greece so uh I'm excited to get back to London to watch House of the Dragon I just had it recently which feels really good when um you start something and uh that's made now

and you go oh that was good enough to make me miss it I missed the characters and it was Queenie the Queenie adaptation on channel four from Candice Carty-Williams. Very good. Did you like that? Oh I really liked it. Did you not like it? No. Who do you think you are? Coming here and shitting all over Queenie. I really loved the book but I didn't love the series. See I didn't finish the book so

I suppose I really liked the series because it completed finished the story for me. But I just thought it was brilliant casting and I guess there was a lot about real London life that I really liked. They got the to finish the story for me. But I just thought it was brilliant casting. And I guess there was a lot about real London life that I really liked. They got the music right. To be honest, I don't often like watching adaptations of books that I've read.

Oh, I love it. Especially if I've really enjoyed the books. I've always find that they don't quite capture the tone of the book for me. Hey, we used to love that bbc narnia adaptation yeah but i didn't read the books oh i watched the films neither had i we loved those we just watched those but yeah emotional connections to tv shows i have also that's when you know it's good i would like to start something that gives me that again i can't believe i haven't watched succession like one day for instance love the book hey oh oh oh the newest adaptation you weren't feeling

you didn't love it oh no i thought that was brilliant i i that that's my true answer i was devastated when that ended loved that i really i mean why do you think I loved that? It was like a walk through history. I think you loved it because of that Leo actor. And he's totally fit. Yeah, that was good. But he's also very good. I wouldn't have fancied him

if he wasn't good. He was very good. And he's from West London so I felt an affiliation with him. Yeah, yeah. I saw he liked one of my posts on Instagram

when I got very excited. Shut up. Shout out to Leo Woodall. He's from Hammersmith. Isn't it funny when you know boys are from hammersmith that's why i was born come on queen charlotte's gang leo woodall please get in touch and let us know if you're a queen charlotte gang he's like 10 years younger than us let's move on this is no longer about ending i actually think that hospital had closed by the time leo woodall was born another Sad food. Another. There you go. Well done.

We landed on an ending. The ending of Queen Charlotte's Hospital. There you go. Just bring it back. We'll be back with more questions about endings after this very, very short break. It's not an end. It's just a break. Don't worry.

Go back to school with Rogers and get Canada's fastest and most reliable internet. Perfect for streaming lectures all day or binging TV shows all night. Save up to $20 per month on Rogers Internet. Visit Rogers.com for details. We got you. Rogers. Welcome back. Can we have another question about endings, please? Could we? Please? Hi, ladies. It's Daisy from Royal Essex here, just down the countryside.

So I had a difficult relationship with my mum, who sadly passed just coming up to four years ago she died suddenly while she was on holiday so yeah it was a bit of a shock and before she went away we had a bit of a petty argument and so our last interaction wasn't a very pleasant one so I have although I don't feel guilty about it I have a lot of sadness and regret over over that and feel sad that we never got the opportunity to like resolve our differences and so I'm just wondering if um you've had any relationships or friendships and um that you feel sad about and or you have any regret about

and perhaps that you if you had the chance could go back and do things differently thank you daisy um that's such an awful loss for you and i'm i'm so sorry that happened to you and i completely understand um how one can sit in those feelings you said that you didn't feel guilt so important but i think about this a lot which is why i uh my nanny lives with my parents now and every time i leave the house without no shadow of a doubt i have to give my nanny a proper hug and a kiss on her cheek i'm very aware that we lose people and that and things end abruptly and out of nowhere. That's why I'm always like hugging you, Lil and kissing you. I just feel like hold on to the people you love.

I'm always thinking about that. So I really try to have no bad beef with the people in my life that I love. Et toi? Et toi and me. Yeah, I mean, I have like quite complicated relationships with some of my family members. And I do sometimes think, hmm, if they died, that would be quite sad to have those things unresolved. But, you know, I'm quite stubborn. So it's a tricky one, isn't it?

I mean, there are relationships in the past that have ended abruptly that sometimes I wish I could go back and change but in having done a lot of work on myself in the last few years I have like you know gone back and apologized or let those people know that I'm sorry for the way that I behaved in the past and yeah and some of those relationships have you know recovered and are now you know in a good place some of them haven't but yeah I mean I think I think talking is always is always a good thing I feel like me and you have done quite a lot of that um going back to things that were possibly soured and actually we were talking about it when you were talking about a certain friend of yours that you kind of just didn't want around as much or didn't feel the need to have in your life and you thought about it and you thought about how you were going to

explain that to him and why like i just think there's we're in a different place in our lives where we it kind of makes me personally feel uncomfortable if i have all this like bad blood with anyone that i love you know we had quite a lot of um difficulties in our family last summer and it was really it really rocked me it really rocked me. It really rocked me. And I did feel a real element of life is too short for this. Yes. But at the same time, because there are some relationships that I feel like

in order for them to be resolved, I have to like surrender. And I'm just not really willing to do that. Not all the time. Not all the time is it our role to do that. No, I think I'm pretty fair. no i think i'm pretty i think i'm pretty fair and i think i'm pretty like good and i have quite healthy attitudes in most of my relationships there are a couple that are a little bit like contentious and in order to like resolve

them it would have to be me that has to do all of the work and i'm just not willing to do it no like fuck it no and that my own shit to think about that's right let's have another question endings is being is um surprising me quite enjoying it actually hi makita it's chris from cheshire i was just wondering what would be your favorite ending to wrap up your careers artistically in the future thank you love you thanks chris oh god this is my um greatest fear like is this a question about legacy or like your final act of work i don't know i mean he's asking how you would like end your career i mean i've ended my career a few times already me too um uh i don't know i feel like i feel like you don't i. I feel like you don't.

I feel like, you know, I don't even really know what my career is, like quite frankly. I just like to express myself and I tend to do it in quite a public way and people, you know, allow me to do it and give me a platform in which to express myself freely and I'm very lucky to be in that position. So hopefully that will never end and if it does then um i'll be moaning about it somewhere so much slightly smaller platform i'm slightly more independent someone else and it's slightly more independent space um okay my i'm so embarrassed this is so cheesy but i have to tell the truth i love broadcasting so

much that i they will have to drag me out of this industry in my 80s 90s even i'd like to be like attenborough actually keep going i would like to drop dead on a tv set wow that's how much i love my job i'm not even joking that's how much i love my job and what i do and i'm very lucky to do something that i love so much and to have for it to have found me i feel like it's my duty to what i do because it found me i didn't go looking for it so it was like a really beautiful gift at a very early part of my life and i feel that i disrespect to not take this all the way to the end you get me yeah but on a real i would like at the end of my career to be a very powerful force in broadcasting and production and presenting that's just what i want so yes she wants to be on the arts council

yeah a bit of arts council bit of oprah would you take a mbe or uh that's a difficult question. Yeah, but you would, wouldn't you? I would. In a heartbeat. In a heartbeat! But I know that it's problematic and I'm very... Loves a bit of establishment recognition. This one.

It's so true! Okay. So I'd like to end my days in the palace. Would you prefer to be Mbe'd by charles or william when it inevitably happens yeah charles i william would feel i feel like if william gave it to me it'd feel a bit like mtv mb or something i need it to be like real historical old school charles yes charles so you would like charles to give it to you not like Charles to give it to you not William to give it to you? I mean, I don't want to write anything in stone,

guys. I'm easy. But yeah, I'd love it if Charles gave it to you. Anyway, can we also just quickly, sorry not to drag this out, but what MBE is? There's OBE, Order of the British Empire, Member of the British Empire. Member of the British Empire. And then you can be knighted

as well, so you can be damed. See, I think I want that one. I'm not, the word empire I find very difficult. So I'll just be a knight. Can I be knighted? Or damed? Yeah, I think you have to get the other two first. I don't think you can just go straight dame.

Oh, you can't just go straight to dame. I thought that there was an order of, I thought there was an order of things. I thought there was a bloody proper way of doing things. Unbelievable. No, 100%, I'm looking for my knighthood now because I never want to be a queen. I'd rather be a king.

So I'd like to be a knight, not a dame. All righty. Can we have the last question for today's Listen Bitch? Okay, Lily's on holiday. All right, she's got a beach to get to. Listen Beach. Listen Beach. Hey Lily, hey Makita it's harriet

again from southeast london sorry i had to call in after i heard your topic about endings um i automatically thought about the doof doofs on eastenders and the dramatic endings of a soap opera so i remember back in the day you'd have phil mitchell flushing Ian Beale's head down a toilet. That was one of the dramatic endings. I also had a dramatic ending to my day. On Friday, I actually got hit off my bike and I managed to break two bones in my right wrist. So I'm not having a great week this week, but that was a dramatic ending to my week last week. So my question for you guys is have you ever had an ending to any aspect of your life that was worthy of a eastenders you know that when i was young i created what EastEnders theme tune became before it even was.

So when it used to come on, it was just used to be kind of piano. And then I added drums. I'd be like... And then one week they were just there. I'm not joking. I'm not joking. No, you created that in your head. That did not happen.

Ask my mum. She was there. Ask my nan. She was there. Your mum, that reliable song from the 90s actually 90s memories um something in my life being dramatic enough for a dun dun dun dun dun i can think of some but they're not we can't mention them on the podcast come on how bad can an ending be oh it was a it was a bad ending i'm just yeah i'm not even gonna say because it's

gonna take us to a place where we don't want to go. This does involve me, doesn't it? Well, I'm just trying to think of one that does involve you because I feel like you threw me under the bus slightly with my Japan escapade. So I was just thinking maybe I could throw you under the bus. But you know what? I'm not going to do it because I'm just not that kind of friend.

See, the thing is, the ending I have would throw both of us under the bus and it was EastEnders-y. Right. See, the thing is, the ending I have would throw both of us under the bus. And it was EastEnders-y. Right. But I don't want to throw you under the bus in the same way. Again. I'm really sorry. That's not very Listen Bitch of Us, but I just got to be a little bit careful.

Just a little bit. Yeah, because we might end up with Daily Mail articles with the headline, Is Lily Allen the most toxic friend in show business? Again. it yeah because we might end up with like daily mail articles with the headline is lily allen the most toxic friend in show business again can you imagine if uh they wrote something that awful uh it was it was about me being a bad friend actually you know what i'll say it and i just won't say what you did um uh something happened in lily's life that i um felt the need to tell um the i was this was gonna be my one i was gonna say this yeah it wasn't the stenders ending wasn't it it was like did you did you tell blah blah that i was like yeah it was like that it was like that it was like that and you know what we get into details but

this one we're just not going to okay yeah absolutely not a good idea not a good idea not in the current climate not a good idea on the current climate but everyone that was involved i'm sure you know who you are i really think we should stop talking now do you think that we need to end this yeah you listen you naughty little minx i think we need to end this i'm picking the next theme thank god i had to wait for like billy eilish then lily allen finally it's my time it's summer the sun's out you would know if you've been in this country how important the sun is this week the theme for this week's listen bitch is Raven! Raven.

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