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Episode Date: December 10, 2020Bill rambles with Kevin Bacon about playing Boston cops, being a dad, and 'three on the tree'....
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Okay what's up everybody and welcome to another wonderful edition of the Thursday afternoon
just before Friday Monday morning podcast.
I'm just checking in on you with a very special guest that I promised that I teased on Monday.
Ladies and gentlemen please welcome the incredibly talented Mr. Kevin Bacon.
Are you on the road?
I heard you were going to Texas.
I think that's what I am.
Yes I am.
This is the final night, eight nights, sixteen shows.
I realized how old I am now.
Just doing sixteen shows indoors would have been hard enough but like outside, I feel
like I've been yelling at the tailgate for a week.
How's it been going?
I mean first off, you know, listen, tailgate comedy doesn't, doesn't Texas just say tailgate
comedy?
That's the place to do it right?
Yeah but you don't want to be the only guy talking at the tailgate.
I don't mind chiming in and then having a couple of beers when I used to drink but it's
just sort of the first one we did was in Dallas which was a great venue but it was more of
a music venue and there was a highway nearby and it was like final approach for like Love
Field.
There was a lot of stuff going on but the people event like just ridiculous, like the
fact that they're going to sit there in the cold under blankets listening to me do my
dumb jokes, you know, you know, kind of like I couldn't get too upset with, I got frustrated
because I want to give them a show so I got frustrated with a little bit of the distractions
on some of them but like the fact that they were sitting there the way they were on cold
grass under blankets, I'm like, all right, well I can't bitch about this too much.
So Dallas was cool, I went to Austin, Austin was crazy, those people got after it.
I thought that they were going to be like super mellow, you know, the liberal town and
it was sort of the exact opposite.
Yeah, they were partying and then I did one night last night here in Houston and they
were great, they were great.
So well, good for you, man, I mean, I first off I think your jokes are anything but dumb
and I think it's I think that's really cool that you were able to get out there and do
your thing.
Oh, yeah, I mean, I got a mortgage so I got to get it isn't just for for love of comedy.
Have you gone out and done anything?
I know you do the Bacon Brothers stuff.
Yeah, no, we have not we've not played the Bacon Brothers actually when the when the
pandemic hit we were actually in the studio.
It's so weird to think back on the day that we went into lockdown, whatever it was, marked
something.
We were finishing up the last record, we were doing a bunch of songs in the in the studio
and it was at that moment before, you know, it was kind of like pre-mask, but you were
kind of not quite shaking hands and and doing a lot of like hand sanitizer, but we hadn't
gone to the mass thing.
And there was there was a glove period people going to the grocery store gloves on.
I did that.
Right.
We didn't have a mask on enough.
We were at that.
We were at that glove period because we had to take the gloves off to play.
But you know, it was I haven't really done anything.
The only thing I've done is I have gone back to work on this series that I'm doing on Showtime.
And that's been really interesting because, you know, it's really, really weird to start
with because you get to work, your temperature is checked, you go through, you answer a bunch
of questions.
Everybody is in PPE, you're completely, you know, masked up and shields and all that.
You do the quick nose test every time too?
Yeah.
We get tested probably, I mean, four or five times a week.
For some reason, the testing has shifted a little bit where they're not jamming it all
the way up to your, your, you know, brain, it's just kind of like a spin, a spin around
the lower nostril.
And my wife said to me the other day, she said, the testers must love you because given
the size of your nostrils, you're like a super easy target.
I said, thank you so much, honey.
That's really sweet of you to point out.
And then at some point after we've rehearsed, we have to take our masks off because it's
1992 and we don't have masks on.
And at that moment, that's when it feels just like it used to feel.
Because now I'm acting, I'm doing the thing that I know how to do.
I'm talking to actors, the masks are gone and you know, the cameraman is shooting it
and the boom operators there and everything is kind of like, at least for that moment
feels like right in the way it's supposed to be.
Is it weird to do like to go to be doing a show now, going back in time, during a time
where you were already working in TV and film, do you do anything like it wasn't quite like
that?
Do they go to you to ask them, you know, hey, when you did these, I guess it's not about
shooting a show, but one of my pet peeves is when I watch something in a period is greetings.
If I see one more high five in something before the high five existed, or more than this,
you know, that greeting that came somewhere in the 90s.
I'm with you.
Yeah.
It drives me up the wall.
It's just like, plus I love the low five.
I missed that.
Yeah, right.
I was watching something on then I was like, the high five didn't exist then.
No, that's that's really, that's true.
I do the same thing.
You know, I'm old enough that I don't really remember it.
Sometimes I'll go, I'll see a, I'll see a high five or, or, or, you know, like a, you
know, like a hug or something and I'll go, I don't think that was, but maybe I don't
know.
I don't know.
I'm really remember, you know, the other thing that's kind of about that.
And you know, when I was listening to the other day, you were talking about drumming
and, you know, learning the Zeppelin tune and stuff, which I thought was really fun to
listen to.
And there's a really great movie now called the sound of metal.
I don't know if you have a chance to see it yet, but it's a, it's, I really would recommend
it.
And it's about a, it's about a drummer in a, in a, in a, in a metal band and he loses
his hearing and it's a, it's an incredibly well done and moving kind of moving the sound
design is just, I've really recommended it.
I have no connection to it.
And my son looked at it.
My son plays in, in, he's a guitar player in a, in a metal band.
And when you look at something, a movie that is like specifically from your world, like
if I would look at a movie, like you were mentioning before of somebody making a movie,
I'd go, yeah, that's not right.
I'm like, you know, why isn't, you know, it doesn't happen that way.
And I sort of feel the same way about music.
And I'm sure you feel the same way when you look at things that involve drumming and drummers.
And I was talking to my son about the movie, he was like, yeah, you know, I really, I really
liked it.
But why did he have that specific t-shirt, you know, and it was like, it was like something
that only a metalhead of would, would, would notice, you know, it's like it was a band
that he didn't think that this guy would necessarily like that band on his t-shirt.
But that's what happens when we watch movies about things that we know intimately.
But that's what makes also something great is if somebody can pay attention to that level
of detail.
Like a long time ago, one of the first like major acting things I got is I got to do a
couple episodes of Breaking Bad and they prided themselves on like, you know, the trolls that
would be like, oh, it wouldn't happen that way.
Like they literally, when we had a scene, it was a pallet of money and that we laid
down on one of those seasons and they actually broke down the denominations of cash that
Mr. White would have and how big it would be.
We did a train robbery thing and they did the math on the chemicals, they were taking
out whatever the chemical was to make the math and then putting water in how much the
density of it and there was some guy whose job was to sit there and shut down these trolls
and be like, no, that's exactly how much it would have been just for the fun of it.
That's great.
So, yeah, I find that fascinating about movies and movies can also create something that
never happened or TV or they'll get like, say like with goodwill hunting like the amount
of people waiting for them.
I grew up just south of Boston and they'll be like, oh yeah, how do you like them apples?
And I'm just like, nobody ever said that when I was growing up.
That's the Matt Damon joke from Goodwill Hunting or that movie, Donnie Borosco, which ruined
the expression, forget about it.
It was so universal and they just so overly described it like to this day if I if I'd
slips, because people tease me out of saying it, I'd be like, oh yeah, I wanted that steak
because, oh man, forget about it was unbelievable and then they go, forget about it.
You feel like an asshole.
Yeah.
It ruins it forever.
I know.
I know.
Listen, I know, I know exactly how you feel and I have to say that, you know, just speaking
of Boston, you know, for some reason, for whatever reason, I have done a lot of movies
in Boston.
Yeah.
And, uh, uh, Mystic River, Patriots Day, Mystic River, Patriots Day, Mystic River, RIPD.
And now this show that I'm doing on Showtime, my wife and I met in Boston during doing a
thing for WBGBH.
And the one thing I know for sure is that I've come to, I have a sense of peace about
the fact that nobody from Boston is ever going to like my Boston accent and I'm completely
fine with that.
I like, I get it.
I get it.
And what's really weird about it is that I'm from Philly and Philly has a, has a really
specific accent, but nobody does it.
It's hard.
Well, it's not that it's hard, but Boston's hard to, I mean, it's not, it's that no, but
for some reason, nobody in the mood, everybody goes to Philly and they talk like this.
They're like, Hey, what are you doing?
Everyone from Philly.
It is from Brooklyn somehow, miraculously.
And I don't really understand why, why that is, but, but I've gotten a chance to do, you
know, my own hometown accent, like, like maybe, maybe twice out of every single movie I've,
uh, I've done.
And people don't even really know that that's what I'm, I'm doing.
It's like a very, it's a very specific thing that just, for some reason, we don't get
a specific respect.
I remember I met this, this woman one time she was from Philly.
She was a beautiful woman and was just hearing that Philly accent, like added to her beauty.
And I remember she was talking to her beauty.
Oh, I'm glad to hear that.
Added to it.
No.
Cause you know, I was, I thought you were going to say the opposite.
I thought it was a buzzkill because she was trashing somebody and she just, she said
something like, yeah, he's in the asshole.
He kind of had that weird way.
I'm probably doing it wrong.
He's in the asshole.
And just was like, what the hell was that?
And then that it was just, just added like another layer to it.
I think Nick Kroll though, he actually got props.
I think he does a good Philly and Pittsburgh, um, um, accent, but like,
What does he do it in?
Cause I want to check it out.
Um, or does he do his part?
He used to do, just going like YouTube, I'm sure the clip is on there.
It's a KRLL was a sketch show, brilliant sketch show that he did on like, uh, like three
seasons on comedy central.
And they did it.
They would do a sketch where it was him and one of the characters, a Pittsburgh guy yelling
at a Philly guy or something.
Oh, okay.
I'll check it out.
I love Nick Kroll.
Yes.
He did like a good, I mean, be honest with you, it makes you feel better.
People give me crap about my Boston accent if I lay into it a little bit more.
Um, but, uh, anyway, before we get too far into this, I do want to get into what, uh,
you're promoting here.
This sounds like an amazing show.
So here's the promo thing I'm going to read here, forgive my reading out loud here.
But if you listen to the podcast, you're ready for this here, uh, celebrating, uh, the power
of music to make it change a prime time broadcast concert special benefiting the NAACP legal
defense and educational fund incorporated and why hunger hosted by our podcast guests
here today, Kevin Bacon and Eve.
It's going to air on CBS on a new date and time, December 15th, eight o'clock Eastern,
seven central and exciting additions to the musical lineup include LL Cool J, DJ Z trip,
Sarah Bareilles.
Hope I said that right.
Emily King, Pedrito Martinez, special guest Bruce Springsteen, John Legend and Ringo Starr.
I think you got enough of a show there.
Well, we also have a machine gun Kelly and Ziggy Marley and Andre Day and Bon Jovi and
Marin Morris and Yola and the high women and Gary Clark Jr.
And the list goes on and on.
It's, it's a, it's a really, it's a really amazing group of musicians.
I like to say that if you like music, uh, we'll have something for you because we've
got rock and folk and soul and rap and reggae and country.
And, uh, I actually was thinking, well, but there's no jazz.
But, um, the great John Batiste is doing a cover of People Get Ready, uh, from the Apollo
at the end of the, at the end of the show.
And he does a solo that I would definitely, uh, classify as jazz and he's got kind of
New Orleans, uh, chops.
Um, we, we are, uh, decided to, to do it from three different iconic venues.
So it's part of it was shot at the Apollo in New York and part of it was shot at
the Tributor in LA and at the Bluebird Cafe in Nashville, which is a, uh,
fantastic sort of singer-songwriter venue.
Um, and, uh, really proud of the show, both for the messaging and for the, the money
that we've raised for these fantastic organizations, but also for the musical
side of it, because I know that, um, you know, you, you play and I'm sure that you've
seen during, um, the pandemic, that people have done some sort of collections of
music from home and it's, it's, it's fun and was kind of charming at the beginning
to see somebody just, you know, with acoustic guitar, kind of, you know,
singing their songs from the living room, or there's been, uh, on the other extreme,
these very big production numbers with no audience, which, uh, you know, can
sometimes feel, I don't know, a little, a little strange.
I think that we've really hit the sweet spot here for, uh, these, these musicians
are together and they're playing live and they're having a great time and they're
in these really super cool venues, but we're not trying to pretend that there's
people that are listening to them.
That sounds amazing.
That almost reminds me of, um, what was that documentary?
It might get loud and they just had Zach White and the Edge and Jimmy Page.
They were just sitting in a circle or like, uh, you ever watch on YouTube?
Have you ever watched that live from Daryl's house, Daryl Hall?
I've been on it.
Oh, you've been on that?
Yeah.
I was watching one from this morning.
One of my, um, uh, I always forget his name from, uh, James gang and the Eagles
was on it.
Um, the guitar player there.
Oh, Joe Walsh.
Joe Walsh.
Yeah.
Oh my God.
They do this version of, uh, that would have, life's been good to me so far and
just, it is just a sonic masterpiece.
And, um, just being like, I always call myself, uh, uh, you know, a dad drummer is
basically what I am.
And there's just something about professional musicians, just listening to
them tuning up is so much better than anything I've ever done and just how they
all like lock in and, uh, the fact that you guys are going to all be at the venues.
I'm psyched that you're on here to promote this because this is something
with, you know, just being on the road, I might have missed it and, uh, I've
been able, luckily enough to perform at two of those two out of the three of those
venues, um, survive the Apollo and, uh, I'm sure you did.
I'm sure you did.
Well, I remember I'm doing, doing the gig and this dude just sitting sideways
like this the whole time, getting ready to get up my whole sex never left, but he
never turned around.
But doesn't that, isn't, isn't that a great challenge that you just keep your
eye on me and you go, what are you still in your seat?
You're still in your seat, motherfucker.
I haven't, I got another one you haven't left yet.
Well, I remember standing in the alley behind there waiting to go on and it
was taped.
It was, it was the summertime.
It was August to 2000.
So, you know, even though it was like the late afternoon, the sun was still out.
And I remember hearing somebody getting booed and go, and go in like, you know,
I really didn't need to do this.
I'm a perfectly good white guy.
He could have just stayed in the white guy clubs.
Why am I doing this?
And what was funny is I had met my future wife like two seconds before that, but
I was so busy focusing.
I met Nia and her dad was booking it and he was leading up the stairs.
I remember he had a look of concern on his face.
He's probably reacting to the look on my face.
So, and then of course the Troubadour, you know, I'm a huge music fan and all that.
It's how have you been able to, with as busy as you are, like throughout the years?
I've always been a mate.
Like I've really envied your career as far as all the great work that you've done.
You seem to stay out of trouble, you know, which is a hard thing to do now as a comic.
It seems you stay out of trouble and you're also able to do this music thing
with your brother and get involved in these charities, you know, keep the
home life together.
Like you seem on paper, you're one of the most sane people in this business.
Like, how are you able to do that?
You know, I don't know.
I mean, I feel like I really, really love what I do.
And I've worked really hard to be able to keep doing it through the years, you know,
because it's something that I just get, I still get a tremendous amount of
pleasure out of, you know, the time between action and cut is like such a sweet
spot for me and every time, I don't care what, you know, what kind of piece of
shit I'm doing, I still really enjoy, you know, pretending to be another person.
In terms of my own personal life, I think I met the right person.
People say, you know, why, how do you stay married for so long?
And it's a really hard question to ask on the last record, we had a song called
play and that I wrote about as sort of as a kind of a wise-ass response to that
because everyone says, oh boy, it's so much work, isn't it?
You got to really work at it, you know, be to have a successful marriage has
got to be a while out of work.
And I said, no, really, to me, it's really about playing, you know, you got
to have the play, that's got to be the part of it, you know, where you're still
labeled and that's what's what I feel with with with Kira.
And I don't know, man, you know, I try to wake up every day
with a lot of gratitude for having a roof, having food, having love in my life.
A lot of things that a lot of people certainly during this time, difficult
time don't have and also for being able to make a living doing what I really,
really love to do.
Yeah, that's that's that's incredible.
I've already been out here, you know, I started late in the game as far as
getting married and having kids and all that type of stuff.
And it's made the road is a different.
It's a really different thing when you have something that you're leaving,
that you actually want to be still a part of.
So thank God for like zoom and all of that type of stuff.
And like I don't zoom, I mean, like FaceTime and that thing, because I've
been able to be out here for as long as I have right now, like eight days,
which is something I usually wouldn't do.
I just kind of needed to, like I said, I got bills to pay here.
So but just being able to FaceTime with my kids and to also see, because I
remember early on in my career, when I should have been, I guess, getting
married, if I wasn't such a lunatic and having kids, I remember my friends
telling me like, man, I went on the road for the week and I came back and
like my daughter's face changed.
And all of a sudden, you know, she's starting to walk and I missed that.
So the fact that I get videos and things like that have been.
It's huge.
It's huge.
When, when, when FaceTime first came out, we used to say, God bless Steve jobs.
That was like all, all, that was like our mantra, God bless Steve jobs,
because we're, you know, we're a couple that, um, and a family really, that
even though we on the surface look like, you know, well, they have, you know,
we're sort of home, home bodies.
We're really vagabonds at our core.
We are, our marriage has been really based on two suitcases being packed
and ready to go.
And, and that's been a plus and the, and the minus.
I mean, because clearly, you know, you're going to be forced to spend some time
apart, but it actually has been part of what's kept us together is the fact
that, you know, we like to be with each other.
We like to be home, but we're always kind of ready to go, okay, I'm going
off to work, you're going off to work.
And for a long time, it made things really complicated when it came to
bringing the kids back and forth and stuff like that.
But to be able to reconnect with somebody, you know, once a day or whatever is
really great.
And if you could do it on FaceTime, um, even, even better.
And, um, this time has been really strange because, you know, when, when the
pandemic, you know, rolled into town, I immediately flew to LA where she was.
And we went into lockdown together and went through, I don't know, probably four
months or five months or whatever.
It was just like the two of us in the same house.
And that's something that's never happened in our marriage ever.
After 32 years, we've been married.
We've never spent that much time together ever.
And, you know, we don't have a big house out there, but luckily we have, like
she could go into the bedroom and I could go into the living room or something.
So like in the course of the day, we would serve like kind of separate, then
we'd get together and we'd have lunch and then we'd separate for a while.
Then we get back together and we had dinner.
Um, a lot of people didn't have that kind of luxury, but we, it was a, it was
an adjustment to actually be spending that much time together and one that
we survived luckily.
And now I'm on a show in New York.
She's not a show in LA.
So she went out to LA.
Now we've been separated for the longest period that we've ever been separated
in our marriage.
So these are two sort of like milestones.
I've never been apart from her for, um, for this long.
And, uh, you know, we're getting through that as best we can.
So it's, um, you know, it's, it's interesting that you're, you're, uh,
you know, just kind of coming to that now.
And, um,
Oh dude, I have, I have a zillion dad questions for you.
How did your son find music?
Because I love playing, but I don't want to force it on him.
But you know, it's like, you want to be like, come on, man, you play guitar,
play drums, I can jam with my own kid would be the greatest thing ever.
Um, and she goes kind of through periods of liking drums and playing guitar.
And, but she's really, she has a toy guitar.
She's really getting into it.
So I'm trying not to be that.
How old is she?
Uh, she'll be four in January.
Well, I don't know if this is too hippie-dippy, but I used to play a lot
to, um, to her belly when, when she was pregnant.
Um, he came out and one of his first words, or if not his first word was guitar.
And he wanted me to make him, uh, his little cut out guitars all the time.
Like, and I would draw pictures of them and then, then you want me to cut them
out and then they would pick the, the, uh, the paper would bend and he'd get upset.
So then I would have to take cardboard and make it stiffer and glue it against the
thing and then eventually he'd break that and he'd cry and then I'd have to
make him another guitar.
And I was, you know, I was like constantly making guitars until I could finally
get a toy, a toy one.
And he was really, really like, um, obsessed with, he was not into, not into
the sports, not into, uh, any, anything, you know, with a ball so much.
And then he found, uh, swords and like most boys, and then he found guns and
then he found video games and they got, you know, more and more, you know,
increasingly more violent than, you know, this is a kind of a real, right, right.
Yeah.
Well, they weren't the, so we're talking about, he's, he's 32 now.
So we're talking about, uh, it was, it was an earlier kind of iterate.
It weren't as real as they are now when he was about probably I'd say 10,
he stopped playing the video game and he picked up the guitar and I took that
video game and put it up in the closet and he's, he's never played again.
He's, he's, that's, he just has been doing music ever, ever since then.
So I can't say that I forced it on him.
I mean, yeah, I got him lessons.
I got him gear.
If he wanted a look, I mean, if somebody, if somebody wants an instrument, I say,
get them the instrument.
Get them the instrument.
People don't get hurt making music.
You know, people, um, making music is a, is a, is a, is a strong and peaceful and
powerful thing to, to do.
You can, you can bang the shit out of your, your drums.
And, you know, the only thing you, you're, you risk, risk of hurting is your ears.
And, you know, I guess when you get to be real old, you can get some, you know,
tendonitis or whatever.
Yeah, I gotta look at that.
Yeah, this one.
Yeah.
Yeah, but, but, you know, it's, it's a, it's a beautiful thing to make music.
And, um, we always had, uh, you know, we always had gear around, always guitars
around, always, always, um, drums around.
I mean, there's always percussion around here right now.
And, and, uh, um, it was just, uh, there was access to it.
And, and something really cool on your website for your charity, sixdegrees.org
where you kind of use where you are in the world to shine a light on these charities
that people just needed some attention to.
And they're all great causes.
And the one that, that really appealed to me, there was something about helping
schools get instruments for their students.
And, uh, I went to, I went to public school and we got instruments, like in Philadelphia,
the Philadelphia public school system back in the, in the, uh, 50s and 60s.
If, if you wanted to play something, they just gave you, they gave you, you know,
the trumpet or the flute or the violin or, you know, whatever it was.
And along with lessons and stuff.
And that just, I don't think that really exists anymore.
And I think that, why do you think that is?
Because I live out in Los Angeles and it's like,
like the public school systems, it's like not even an option.
You got all of these people there, you know, paying taxes and all of this type of stuff.
Like ridiculous level taxes.
And, you know, when you go to the public schools, I don't,
is it because, do you think, I was trying to come up with a theory, like,
I just think like raising a kid's a lot more expensive where, you know,
get your kid ready for school for the school year.
You bought him a new pair of sneakers, a couple pairs of pants, some shirts,
and then some crayons, pen and pencil, and they were good to go.
You didn't have to get them like a cell phone and laptops.
Right.
I mean, a laptop is like, I mean, essentially,
it's like you're buying your kid like a new used car.
Yeah.
Every year or two.
Yeah, that's a good point.
Rich kid.
Yeah, I never thought of that.
I think it was also that there was more, I don't know,
more funding for, you know, that in the public school system.
It just seems like, you know, if you're going to cut something,
people feel that music and instruments and music in general
is something that is on the chopping block pretty quickly.
Yeah, they feel like it's a silly thing.
Like it's like, I think they almost put it up there.
They put it somewhere like in like gym class, as far as level of importance,
which is, I don't know, that's strange to me.
But people listening, if you want like, Kevin has this amazing charity,
sixdegrees.org, right?
I'm saying that, right?
Yep.
And what I like about it is you're not just funneled into this one thing.
You had like this wide variety of like whatever you're into,
you know, pediatric cancer all the way to getting instruments for kids.
So there's kind of like something there for everybody.
But I don't know, another question, another dad question.
I got a few of these because, you know.
Yeah, yeah, man.
I, so did you go through like, I don't know if this happened to you,
but like I find I try to avoid talking about being a parent with most parents
because they seem to want to focus gloom and doom on like whatever you'd like.
Whatever your kid is, they feel like if their kid's a little bit older,
like nothing good is going to happen.
And it's always like, oh, you wait.
And it's kind of like, well, each kid is different.
Just because you're dealing with that doesn't mean that I'm going to deal with it.
And how do I know you're even involved?
They'll be like, how old you kid turning four?
Oh, you wait, you wait.
The next year is going to be, blah, blah, blah.
And you wait until they become teenagers.
I would think that there's at some point they're going to act out.
And that's like my biggest, I just don't want to go through or try to minimize.
I know at some point they got to like test boundaries and, you know,
break free a year and everything.
I just don't want to go through this period where my kid doesn't feel that they can come to me
and be like, all right, look, last night I was at a party and X, Y, and Z was going down.
Maybe I did this or I was thinking about doing that and feeling that they can come to me.
And it's not going to be this, that's it.
You're never seeing your friends again and all of that type of stuff.
How are you able to navigate those years where all of a sudden it's like, okay,
I'm going out with my friends and you're really what you're,
it's not even you're worried about your kid.
You're at the mercy of how did these people raise those kids?
Yeah.
Are now driving my kid down the street.
Yeah, that's a good point.
I guess I haven't really thought all about that that much.
But yeah, that's true.
You do think about that, the other people.
Well, listen, I totally agree with you that it can be a real
street, bad street to walk down to even raise this topic with people.
And people do want to tell you a lot of gloom and doom.
And that's when, you know, something's like, oh, it's the terrible twos.
That's going to be, it's like, oh, great.
So the entire year that this kid is two years old,
this is going to be a fucking nightmare for me.
You know, and that's not true.
I mean, it starts with the birth.
I mean, if you start talking to people about what childbirth is going to be like,
just don't even do it.
Because it's going to, you're just going to be like, oh, fuck it.
I'm out.
This is going to be a disaster.
I remember when my kid was cool and wasn't terrible when she was two.
Yeah.
You know what?
Then they said, they said, oh, that means your next one's going to be a lunatic.
This one's cool.
The next one's going to be a lunatic.
My son is six months old and he's the best.
He smiles with his whole face and he's just in a good mood and loves his older sister
and she loves him and everything.
So you just can't fall into that trap.
And this is what I tell people.
Whatever it is, you might even sort of know this already.
When you're in some situation, like let's say it's the diaper thing or the toilet training
thing or whatever, you're like, oh my God, this is a fucking nightmare.
And it feels like it's going to last forever.
A lot of these phases feel like they're going to last forever.
Whatever it happens to be right up through whatever partying or bad grades or whatever
stuff that you're talking about down the line with the teenagers.
It passes.
It's a cliche, but this too shall pass.
These phases, if you can have some kind of a trust that there's something on the other
side of it, that's number one.
That's the thing that I try to try to share with people rather than try to give them a
warning that the shit's going to get bad.
But the other thing is that the best, your kids are going to have to have secrets from
you eventually.
They are.
If they don't have some secrets from you, then they're not growing up.
I mean, I didn't tell my parents everything.
I don't want my parents to be my best friend and I don't want to be my children's best friend.
If they have a friend that they can tell their secrets to, then that's great.
But we've tried as best we can.
This is really this, I feel like we're getting a little too deep, but this has been driven
home by my wife, really.
She's been leading the charge on this particular thing.
That is to try as best as possible to keep the lines of communication open and to be
open-hearted and honest and put them in a situation where if they share something with
you, it doesn't mean that they're going to get punished for it because then you can just
kind of work your way through these things that are going to come up.
There's going to be hurt.
There's going to be sadness.
Somebody's going to get drunk or high at some point, I guess.
I think we also have been pretty open with sharing our own personal experiences about
the struggles that we've had growing up and the things that we went up to a point.
Up to a point, I don't think we've shared everything with them.
We've got to have your secrets, too.
Yeah, we've got to have our secrets, too.
But it's going to be okay.
All right.
So you grew up during an amazing time, I feel.
Like I feel like you were born 10 years before me and just the bands that you got to see growing
up and considering that you are a musician, were you a big, I know concerts are expensive for
kids, but did you get to go see a lot of those amazing bands when you were coming up?
Okay.
So I had this crazy thing happen where, as you know, I grew up in Philadelphia and
a kid moved in around the corner from me when I was six years old named Harry Spivak.
And we became friends.
I met him on the street and he was new to the neighborhood and we became friends.
Turns out his dad, they owned restaurants and clubs in Philly.
And they owned a venue called the Electric Factory, which was a, in those days,
they called it a disco tech, but it was a no alcohol music venue.
And we're talking about probably 19, I don't know, I was born at 58.
So probably 1966 or something like that, 67.
We started to go to shows there and as little kids.
So I saw Janice with Big Brother and the Holding Company.
What?
I saw Delaney and Bonnie.
I mean, we would go up to the light tower and they were putting colored dye onto a little
slide and doing the psychedelic kind of projection onto the stage.
So as a little kid, I actually, you know, experienced that whole 60s thing,
even though I was born at 58, I was really young to be seeing it.
And then that club eventually shut down.
The mayor of Philadelphia tried to shut it down because he thought it was a dent of
iniquity and, you know, drugs and all that.
It's got a name Frank Rizzo, but they were able to stay open and then they closed and then they
started electric factory concerts, which was at the Spectrum at Philly.
And then we started going to all the, you know, that's when they stadium Brock happened.
And, you know, you don't want to know.
I mean, I saw, I saw Zeppelin, I saw the stones.
I saw, you know, stones like multiple times.
I mean, I can't even remember, you know, what tour did you see Zeppelin on?
What year?
I guess it would be, gosh, I don't know.
Well, you would know what the actual tour, but I'm guessing it's somewhere around 72.
73, like early seven, some early seventies tour.
Oh, Zeppelin four, something like that.
Oh my God.
What, what, what is, did he have the, the Vista like kit?
The orange, I don't remember.
His kid, Bill, I'm sorry.
I know, I know.
You know what's funny?
I can barely remember the concerts that I went to with anybody.
But that's hilarious.
That's hilarious.
Oh, what, what kind of kit was he playing on?
It was just here.
When you were 11, did you take the time?
Did you do one little podcast?
That's amazing.
Well, we do a segment on this podcast, believe it or not, people write in and they ask me for
advice and stuff.
So I was wondering just to switch it up here.
If you, if you, I'll read these questions and maybe, you know, you can weigh in, we can get
some advice from a incredibly successful man with a big heart helping people out here starting
his, I'll do my best.
Okay.
That's all we, that's all we do on here.
There's no pressure.
You can always pass.
All right.
Musicals says, Dear Billy Boo Brain, whatever the hell that means.
Nice.
I had a dream, I had a dream last night that you were announced to be in a remake of the
Wizard of Oz.
Because it was a dream, I was not able to read the article clearly, but I was incessantly trying
to figure out who you were cast as despite this project not being on anyone's agenda.
I really need to know who, who you would play.
My initial reaction is to Scarecrow for obvious reasons.
Scarecrow didn't have a brain.
Is that it?
I always get confused about that.
I think the Scarecrow didn't have a brain, right?
The 10 man needed a heart and the line needed courage and Dorothy had to get home.
All right.
But I also like, I also think you could be a killer 10 man because your joints are all
tight from that eighties lifting regiment.
This is really not, really not advice.
You're just kind of shitting on me.
So you could probably nail as a representative of the lollipop guild with your cracked smile
grin and little kicking legs.
This is the internet.
You know, I'm sure you're familiar with this.
There's, there's never any comp.
There's no compliments on the internet.
I need some answers on this so I can get on with my life.
Well, you know what, you can trash me.
Who do you say?
I think I'd be one of those little, little pussians, whatever you call them.
You know what, you know what I see you as, Bill?
And don't take this the wrong way.
I see you as one of the flying monkeys.
You know what I like about that is you're still the producer.
You're also going like, what kind of box office is this guy going to bring in?
If he's one of the leads, just give him a flying monkey thing.
We'll see how he does.
How come I can't be the little wizard behind the curtain?
I think you can be the little wizard behind the curtain.
I think, I don't know.
I, I, I see some advice because I know that you, for a while, you got typecast off your
early movies.
So then you had to play against type.
So I keep playing cops and, uh, uh, Boston guys.
Yeah.
What, what is, what is my against type move here?
I keep playing cops and Boston guys.
You know, I listen, I, um, in fact, uh, I'll tell you a funny story, just an aside.
I, I checked into, uh, to start the pilot on, on sitting on a hill, which is the,
the one I'm doing now for showtime.
This is, you know, a year or two ago and, uh, I'm staying right on the common and, uh,
I get to the hotel and I, I leave the, the, my car with the, with the, the, you know, the
valet and I take my dog, my dog was with me.
So I take my dog into the common ticket, take a leak.
And this guy's sitting in the car and he goes, Hey, how come you get to play all the Boston cops?
And I like totally out of the blue.
And I was like, what, what?
And he just, he just repeated that again.
And it was just such a funny, it was such a funny Boston thing also that he was kind
of like wise ass and sort of, you know, busting my, it was, it was kind of aggressively kind
of like busting my balls, but in a, in a sort of funny, like kind of cool way.
And I was like, I really don't know.
And clearly I think he was an actor.
I mean, I think he was an actor.
I think he probably had put together that here I was rolling into town.
Once again, you know, staying at the fucking four seasons and, and, uh,
probably square and taking, yeah.
And taking, and, and taking one of his roles.
Yeah.
I get people back to like, dude, how come you're doing all this shit?
I'm funny than you are.
It's funny.
What's that funny when we were in math class and just get all psych?
Hey, I mean, there's open mics, man.
You can go do them.
But by the way, I got to give you props on the Boston accent.
How can you get to play all the Boston cops?
You've got that awesome down.
Everybody thinks because of the joke, the pock, the con, the hobbit.
Yeah.
That the whole thing is that awesome.
They don't understand that that's just with, you know, an AR sort of at the end of a word.
And they missed that Boston, because I'll say, where are you from?
I'll say Boston.
And they go, Oh, Boston.
And I'm like, did I say it like that?
It's B, A, W, like bar, like saw that that is my life's work is to just get people to
at least say that the name of the city, uh, correctly.
So as formula, I mean, I haven't lived there since 95, but that sounded pretty damn good
to me.
So I don't have a problem with you playing all the Boston cops.
You cock sucker.
All right.
Okay.
So that's one line.
I've, I've, I've scored with one line.
Good.
Oh, you got it.
It was good.
It was good.
That's something to build on.
All right.
Underrated music parts.
Dear Billy Crescendo.
I love discovering parts to a song that are usually overshadowed by more famous parts,
i.e. the drum part in Sultans of Swing.
It's very underrated.
Oh, that was nice.
This is obscure.
This is a very obscure music question.
I like this.
Yeah.
Okay.
Good.
The legendary Mach-na-pla guitar solo certainly steals the show.
I'll just do a Boston accent for the rest of it.
You have it down.
But the drum part is such a solid groove.
I was wondering if there were any parts that made you feel the same way.
Another one for me is the piano parts, Pink Floyd's Us and Them.
The addition is usually on the awesome female vocal part where she's wailing at the end.
May the force be with you in order to go fuck yourself.
Love the podcast and happy holidays.
Yeah, there's a, I mean, of course I'm going to go blank, but for some reason,
I think because we were talking Boston,
and there's a part, there's a drum, Aerosmith, Joey Kramer on Get Your Wings.
There's a song, I forget the name of it, but it's like this last song on the first side.
She's a woman of the world, the God she knows it.
Well, there's a breakdown in the middle when the band kind of drops out,
and it's just Joey Kramer just laying down this simple groove,
but it just sounds so fucking good that I used to, I used to like wear out the record,
just trying to figure out, because you know that stuff when you first start playing,
you're like, physically I can play this, but I can't make it sound that good.
It's like this magical thing.
So I would say something like that.
What about you?
Oh wow, that's such a, I mean, I find that to be a really interesting question.
She's not talking about just drums because she mentions another instrument.
At one point, but it's kind of like the piano, they think she said.
Yeah, piano thing, yeah.
It's kind of like that thing of, well, I guess it's kind of like where you go,
what really made this a hit, and is there some kind of unsung hero?
And God, there's always these unsung heroes in music, right?
I mean, but you know, one thing that just popped into my head was
that Mike Campbell lick in that Tom Petty song.
What song is it?
All I hear is the lick now.
Breakdown?
Breakdown, I guess it's Breakdown, yeah.
And it's like nobody, I love Mike Campbell on it.
I think his, you know, you don't go like, people would never really talk about him in
the top, top, top sort of like, you know, Jimmy Page's kind of echelon of guitar players.
But maybe Tom wrote that lick, I don't know.
But I always look at that like to me, like without, I love that song Breakdown, but like
that lick is a really, really important part of it.
And it's a really simple thing, right?
It's like super, super simple.
So that's one that just popped into my head.
Thank you.
Thank you, Alyssa, from, I don't know why.
I have that, you know, I'm a big fan of bands that never sounded the same when the drummer left.
I think that's such a statement of the drummer.
And I think I still love Tom Petty throughout his whole career and Steve Ferroni and everything.
But when Stan Lynch was in the band, it was a different sounding band.
Guns N' Roses is the same thing too.
You know, I love Matt Sorum.
But like when Steve and Adler was in it, it was just a different, he had just such a unique feel.
I never felt like a guy, he had this punk sort of background when he was pushing the band
while being laid back and swinging at the same time.
It was the weirdest, coolest feel I've ever heard from a drummer, at least during that period.
All right, so now we got dumb questions for employees.
So a lot of people work with the general public and they get asked stupid questions.
I don't know if you ever had one of those.
Oh, you were a waiter, right?
I was a waiter.
Yeah, I was a waiter and a busboy.
Yeah, so I'm sure you got plenty of dumb questions.
So this is, I guess, the immigrant addition.
So, hey, Billy Nomates.
I actually know what that means because I knew this English chick.
And she told me that's an expression.
If you're alone in a pub, they say, hey, look at Billy Nomates.
You don't have any friends or whatever.
You know why that was?
Because when I was on the road, I used to go to baseball games by myself.
So I had all these pictures of me in front of these baseball stages where I was by myself
and a stranger's holding the camera.
So she goes, you should do a coffee table book called Billy Nomates.
And it's just a picture in front of all of these stadiums.
It's actually a decent idea.
All right, hey, Billy Nomates.
I'm an immigrant from England.
Manchester specifically now living in the Midwest.
I love the feature of people writing in with their dumb questions.
They get at their jobs.
My stuff is pretty run in the mill, but I remember I've been,
I remembered being asked some pretty fucking stupid questions since moving here.
So here goes.
All right, so this is some English guy, I guess, who came here.
So do you guys celebrate 4th of July?
What do you do?
We go to work like any other weekday.
All right, this might not be something that you can participate in.
I realize that I'm new to this interviewing thing.
You go great.
OK, thank you.
How often do you get back to London?
Never.
I'm from Manchester.
Well, how the hell would they know that?
This guy's a cunt.
All right, you guys only drink.
You guys only drink.
Which is an interesting word to use,
because that's a very different meaning in England
than it does in the states, as you know.
Oh, it is an art form over there.
I like that better than going to go see Big Ben or something.
Is hearing people in Great Britain, Ireland saying cunt
is one of my favorite things.
The Scottish were the best.
The complimentary cunt is the greatest.
Like, oh, he's a great cunt.
I'm like, I want to meet this guy.
I got to meet this great cunt.
You know, there's actually what I found out was that,
well, first of all, I hate, I can't stay in my name.
And I found out that that's,
it's often used as an insult in proximity.
Really?
You know, he's a fucking Kevin.
Which kind of means, I don't know, just sort of jerk.
Yeah, that's like the Karen over there or something like that.
Yeah, right, exactly.
I was thrilled to hear that.
All right, well, we're going to wrap up here.
I appreciate it.
I can't believe he came on.
Before we wrap up, I just want to tell you one thing.
And that is that I was listening to you,
I guess it was last Monday or whatever.
And you went off about your car, your dream car thing,
switching from, I think, what was it,
originally a fair lane or something?
I'm a truck guy.
And then for a while I was obsessed
with 67 Cadillac Eldorados.
And for whatever reason.
67 Eldorado, right.
Yeah.
And now you've moved into the Bronco.
Well, COVID has, sometimes there's been weird impulses
that have happened.
And during this virus, I bought a 69 Bronco.
No, you didn't.
Yeah, yeah.
Wow.
Was it all original?
Had it been redone?
Yeah, it's all original.
I mean, I put, not me.
Because I had nothing about working on cars.
But I did put in disc brakes, just for safety.
You got it, you got it.
Because people cut out in front of you,
like you don't have drum brakes.
And that's what I did on, a buddy of mine
helped me do that on, just on the front.
I still got the shoes in the back.
But it's got no roof.
It's got no windows.
It's got no doors.
It's got a front window, obviously.
It shifts on the column?
Or is it automatic?
The column.
And to tell you the truth, I know how to drive a stick shift.
I mean, I have since I was young.
But I don't think I'd ever driven three on a tree.
So I'm on fucking YouTube.
How do you drive three on the tree?
And I literally learned it on YouTube.
I bought my truck out of Atlanta.
Street side customs, a little shout out to them.
And they sent me this 68 Ford F100.
Oh, that's what you have a 68 F100?
Oh, my God.
Yeah.
Oh, I didn't know that.
No, I thought you were talking about an 82 Bronco you wanted.
Oh, I like that too.
Like if I had, like, if I had my dream garage,
it would look like the opening scene in No Country for Old Men
when all those dead dudes are in it.
Because those are all Fords.
I love, I'm not really into 78, 79 Fords,
but I like everything else.
But do you still have the other one?
Yeah, I do.
Oh, wow.
So it was three on the tree.
And how I figured it out was I just slowly let out the clutch.
And it didn't stall.
So I'm like, all right, that's first.
And then straight up, I figured out I learned was reverse
because I'm thinking, I'm going to go back.
I'm like, all right, that's first.
And then I just sort of worked.
I was on, you know, I didn't don't live on a busy street.
And I sort of figured it out.
I was like, all right, so this is just like an eight.
So it's reverse, first, second, third.
And I've really kept it.
I just updated a few things like those trucks ran a little hot.
And so I got an aluminum radiator.
We put that in.
And then also the intake manifold weighed like as much as a battleship.
So when I had the engine rebuilt, they said, you know,
they make an aftermarket thing out here that's more made out of a lighter metal.
I forget what it was, but it's just as fine.
You know, you know, just as good that's all.
It's not fuel injected, though, is it?
No, no, no, this thing ran on regular gas.
And the problem was, was I was trying to learn how to do that treatment.
And, you know, you have to dump the stuff in.
And I didn't know to do that.
So I burned out a little bit of it.
So that's when it got, it had to get like rebuilt.
So I've only done a few things.
I think we, we changed a little bit of the gearing and the differential or whatever.
Just to give me a little bit of help, because with three gears,
I would take that thing on the highway.
If I had to go somewhere, if I was driving at that day,
I'd have to stay in the slow lane, but it was just really starting.
I felt, I felt like I was redlining it at like 50 miles an hour.
So it just gave me a little more, if I can go like 60, 65,
but I really realized as much as I like watching people go fast,
I like cruising around.
That's why I like a caddy.
I like a pickup truck and stuff like that.
Although I've become the same thing.
You know, I don't, I, you know, I'm up in Northwestern, Connecticut here.
And I'm never going to take the, take, I'm never going to take the Bronco on the highway.
I've never taken it over.
I've, I'm barely hitting 50.
And my daughter said to me, so basically you got this so that you could drive
like three miles down the road and, you know, buy some apples and then turn around and come home.
I was like, yeah, it really is.
I think that's all I,
How enjoyable is it too?
It's, it's great.
That's what I miss about being in LA.
There's not like a country road that, you know, I look at that truck is like,
that thing should be on like a country road.
And I did some gigs in Connecticut and we were staying at a house more like Southwest,
Connecticut.
I was trying to be between, you know, Boston and New York.
And I mean, it's God's country out there.
After you live out here in the desert, it's on fire now for like three months out of the year,
it seems.
I was thinking like, like this is the place to have a classic car.
This is a place where you, you know, you could have like a motorcycle where you could be on
a back road and not feel like every five seconds, somebody texting is going to like end your life.
So that's, man, I'm really, are you wanting done with the old cars or just starting?
No, I used to have a, I used to have a 61 Austin Healy bug-eye Sprite.
So it's kind of like the two extremes.
Yeah, I don't know that one.
It's a, it's like a little, they're, they're, they're cute.
They're like, it's like kind of like a Triumph or an MG, like a tiny, tiny little British
racing car.
It's got these crazy bug-eye headlights.
But I sold that.
That was a car that you really needed to know how to work on cars because it basically,
I'd take it out once and then it wouldn't start.
And so it was like constantly in the shop.
And I was like, I don't, I'm not the guy that knows how to do that.
But, but yeah, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not going to be a collector.
It's, it's, I, I like this thing.
It's, you know, it's, I'm, I'm, I've just, I just took it out and turned it over just because I
need to, but I don't think I'm going to drive it again this winter because it's really cold.
I mean, it's got no doors.
And I put Tonka trucks and I think that that's where I just never grew out of that.
And my dream as a kid was I wanted to have a big four-wheel drive truck with those, those,
the lights up on top of the roof.
All right.
When I was a kid and I saw somebody driving down the street at dusk and all they had on was just
the, well, not the head, what do you call it, the fog lights.
Right.
I just thought that that was the coolest thing.
I wanted a job where I would have an excuse to drive that truck.
By the way, those early eighties Broncos that you're like buying,
those are incredibly expensive cars now.
I mean, they, some of those have been outfitted.
They're like over $200,000.
Oh, that's if they do like that.
Yeah, they do.
I don't get that.
I don't, I don't get having a $200,000 car.
It's like, where am I going to go with this?
I'll be afraid to take it anywhere.
And there's somebody like some piece of shit.
I don't get it.
I don't get it either, but they are very,
they are, they're, they're hot now because, you know,
Ford's coming out with a new Bronco.
And I think that's kind of makes people into the old,
but I like the full size one.
So in the years that I like, I like 80 to 86 and those things for whatever
didn't catch on, but that's just when I was a kid, there was somebody in my,
my high school had a, had a green Ford F 250 four wheel drive.
I don't know what year it was, but I remember they had gone off road and came to school to
look cool. And the whole thing was covered in mud, except the windshield where the wipers were.
And when I was a kid, I was like, that's the coolest fucking thing I've ever seen.
I got to get one of those one of those days, but of course I didn't.
I had the little, the little two wheel drive Ford Ranger with the little AM FM radio was sort of
an omen for my, my high school experience.
So anyways, but I am real, I'm so glad you came on this podcast.
I'm such a huge fan.
Back at you, man. I love, I love your shit. I really do. You're, you're really,
you're really funny and you're really smart and I really enjoy it.
Oh, thank you so much. And so December 15th. What is the name of the thing?
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Music
I see you, and you see me
But you're blowing the line
When you're making a scene
Oh girl, you've got to know
What my head over looks
The sense it puts show to my heart
When it's watching full eyes
But you can't escape my eyes
Hey, what's going on? It's Bill Burr
and it's the Monday Morning Podcast
For Monday, December 10th, 2012
How's it going?
For those of you who follow me on Twitter
You guys know that I have a special guest this week
We're going to get right to it
Because he's already bugging me with this giant shirt
We have the one and only Michael Rappaport
from every film you've ever fucking watched
Nice to have you on here
You're reinventing the podcast
Because you said podcast
Your accent
P-A-W-D
Cast
And I'm talking shit about accents
That's the Boston podcast
That's the Boston accent
I know I got it
You actually pick up on that
That we say P-A-W
We say Boston, B-A-W
Boston
When I say I grew up outside of Boston
And then they go, oh, Boston?
It's like, no dude, Boston
Saw with B
No, I got you
I know I'm not one to talk about accents
But I like the Boston accent
Because it's more fucked up than the New York accent
That's why I like it
It all depends
It is like apples and oranges
But I like the Boston accent
And I like the Chicago accent
There shit is way out there
And that's one that I can't even duplicate
I haven't been out to the Midwest enough
Like in Chicago to even try and do a bad
It sounds like everybody's doing an SNL character
The Chicago accent is just
I love it
I just like working class accents
Boston, New York
What I think about you is you've lived out here forever
And you never lost your accent
You must have had the voice coaches
And all that saying like
Michael, if you want to work more in this industry
Yeah, they warned me
But you know, all the actors that I really admire
They never truly lose their accent
So I was like, if they don't have to do it
And I'm of course as good as them
And I'm of course referring to the De Niro's and Pacino's
Because when you mention De Niro, Pacino
Rapaport
It's like De Niro, Pacino
Rapaport, Brando, Rapaport
And that's fine
You don't get upset?
No, I don't get upset
But you know, I lost it a little bit here and there
You could tone it down
But when you go back
Because when I go back to Boston
And I run into some people who really have it
Hardcore
I burst out laughing going
Especially when it's a beautiful girl
Back in Massachusetts
And that heinous accent
They'll say stuff like that and it's coming out of their mouth
Like there's something they have brain damage
And there is those times where I'm just like
Wow, I used to
And I never thought I had it that bad
I have some old stand-up tapes that I will never show anybody
Oh, where you could really hear it?
Oh, dude, I'm brutal
Brutal
I would win an Oscar if it was for a Boston accent
How bad it was
And I still have it pretty bad
Yours is good, but when we were working in Boston
Yours, because we were playing
Of course, my Boston accent
It's pretty
You just sound east coast
I was the black sheep of the family
So I was like, he must have left Boston
But yours was hard
I was like, because it was you
And there was other bosses
They really got that shit down
People were really in their native tone
Yeah, no, no, I didn't get anything down
I was from there
I don't do any work, but just to let people know
We did a movie this summer called
The Heat
And the director of Bridesmaid
Paul Feig
It's comedy
R-rated comedy
Bill's really funny in it
Curses a lot
Everybody curses a lot
We're a dysfunctional family
And we all play brothers
Of course, when I tweeted out
That you were going to be on the podcast here
And I was just saying
If you have any questions, let me know
And I knew it was going to be a bunch of
The redhead
The sun cancer twins
They weren't even that good
They send them to me
And they think they're so fucking clever
And it was basically 70 of the exact same joke
But there was a couple
I should actually read the funny one
What were some of the highlights?
You want to hear some of these?
Sometimes I set myself up on Twitter
To see if I'm going to get some good stuff
And people make me laugh, even if they're insulting me
I'll see if I can
By the way, I don't respond back
I might just retweet
Because my kids, I got kids
What good does it do?
When I first got on Twitter
I would get into arguments with people
You're making that day?
Oh my god, the guy from True Romance
I'm actually interacting with him
He told me to fuck off
Fuck your mother
This may be a good one
Why did Stupid Fox cancel his show The War at Home?
That's a nice one
They were a fan
Politics, man
Politics and show business
Just like politics and politics
Let's see what we got here
Everything good?
Do you think you were separated at birth?
That's funny
We're going to discuss Sunblock
I thought you and him were the same guy
There's another one
Ask Rappaport if he realizes he's white
Yeah, I love that
Just because you're from Brooklyn
Yeah
Where are we?
I'm not going to waste time
Blowing through this stuff
What was I going to ask you?
I was going to get into this thing
The whole way this whole podcast
You being on the podcast came about
Wasn't just that we were working together
Was that we both have dogs
Right
The big thing is curb your dog
If you have a dog, like in New York City
I think they were the first ones
The Pooper Scooper
Where I was from
Basically to get the dog shit off
Right
When I was a kid, if your dog took a shit
It just took a shit
It was just outside
So now you're supposed to pick up after it
I never owned a dog in New York
But I own one out here
I always pick up after her
You had this interesting duality
As far as when and where you pick up after your dog
Here's the deal
I grew up, I never had dogs
So when I got my first dog
I lived in Los Angeles
You got the dog a license
Pick up after the dog
And I was good
And I would carry the shit bags
And I would pick up the shit
And then I had two dogs
You have to bring three or four shit bags
Per trip
But
The thing is
Then I moved back to New York
With my two dogs
What kind of dogs?
Muts
But this is where the conversation
Between me and Bill about dog shit
And shit bags got interesting
Because I said I don't use shit bags anymore
Now I'm back living in Los Angeles
And Bill
There was just a sense of judgment
You don't use shit bags
In LA I don't use shit bags
Here's the deal
In New York I use shit bags
Why in New York?
No
No prejudice
I would pick up the shit
And then be able to walk to the corner
And drop the shit bag
In the garbage pail
In Los Angeles
In New York there's garbage cans
On every corner
There's garbage cans
Sometimes they're filled all the way to the top
And the garbage is spilling out
But at least it's the place to get rid of the shit bag
In Los Angeles
For those who are not familiar with Los Angeles
There are not garbage cans on every corner
So
Therefore when you are walking your dog
And two dogs when I made up my own rule
About this
You pick up the dog crap
I don't want to keep saying shit
You pick up the dog crap in the shit bag
And then you carry it
And you could be walking 3, 4, 5, 6
Blocks
Now I'm carrying
In Los Angeles
Medium sized dogs
50-60 pound dogs
With two
Shit bags
By my side
It's not like you could take the shit bag
And put it in your pocket
And then dump it out like a candy wrapper
That's not cool to be
Have to walk around with two shit bags
It's not the picking up
It's the carrying of the shit
Now I could change my rule
And then someone else has to deal with it
But a person
But just to play devil's advocate
Play it
You got the two fucking dogs
You live in a nice upstanding neighborhood
You're considered a good citizen
Of this city
Not by anyone who knows me
I appreciate that
Do your neighbors like see
Like your dogs take shit and you just walk away
Let me ask you this
So when you're in LA
There's a basket over there
I will pick this lump of shit out
I do not buy shit bags anymore
Zero tolerance
I don't fuck with shit bags anymore
And the reason why I don't fuck with shit bags anymore
Is because I'm not walking around with bags of shit
For block and block and block and block
It's just not cool
It's degrading
How is it degrading?
To walk with a steaming hot bag
Of shit for
You don't hold it from underneath
I got two
I have one dog
She was old
But
Even now I have a big dog
Dog takes big
Shits
And in the bag
I can't walk
Text
That's good text time
When you're walking your dog
I can't walk the dog
Who I sometimes take off the leash
And carry a shit bag
I'm just not doing it
I'll tell you something
I'm like this
The game
Listen
If a dog shits on my yard
It's part of the game
You don't get mad
It is what it is
My dog shits in your yard
It is what it is
Sometimes there is a tinge of guilt
Because I know some of my neighbors
So I'll be like
There's a six year old there
Step in
There's a six year old girl
When your dog takes the shit
Do you stand there defiantly
Or do you pretend to be talking on the phone
And not notice it
Are you a worm about it
I'm a worm about it
I'm not going to front
I'll fain like I'm bending over
And I'm doing something to pick it up
Or if somebody goes
Oh you know he's sick
I ran out of shit bags
I'm not going to
Because I've had confrontations
One dude
Do people literally say
Hey Michael Rappaport
That happened once
Because now that you've had fame
For a while but you're not some random
You can't believe what this asshole did
You can't believe
I will accept that
I will not argue that
This is a shitty game
I gotta turn this down
Because we're fucking getting into this
If you want to insult me
And criticize me and judge me
On my policies with shit bags
It's not a Los Angeles thing
I love Los Angeles from New York
You put a garbage can on every corner
This will go out the door
You got a problem with me
You have demands
Listen I'm not walking more
Than a half a block
You ever just been driving around
And you'd be like oh there's Mary Tyler Moore
With a shit bag
Have you ever seen somebody with a shit bag?
In Los Angeles?
Somebody famous? No
I think that they have their assistant walks their dog
Maybe that's what your problem is
You need like an assistant
I need to walk the dog
I need that text time
I need to clear my head
I got two kids
Get out of the house for a few minutes
Unfortunately yes
And I say
Don't
This is a three prong problem
And it's creating other little kids
But I explain to them the reason why
Because if you in Los Angeles
If you carry that shit bag
You even have to make it back to your house
Say you're ten blocks away from your house
Dude I live it every morning
You walk with a shit bag
Eight nine ten blocks
Remember that Tom Hanks movie
Literally like it's to that point
And it disrupts
Once you pick up the shit and you have the shit bag
That's the only thing you're thinking about
And then sometimes you get so relaxed it
It's just like you forget that it's even in your hand
And it's like just dangling
It's just not cool man
When she takes a fucking horrific shit
This isn't going to be the shit podcast here by the way
When she takes one of those horrific shits
Steamer
That you can literally see through the bag
And then you're walking with it
It's degrading man
And that's my thing
I love degrading
I've had people say pick your shit up
You know I had one guy
My dog and I told this guy
I shook his hand afterwards
My dog shat his yard
I told him the dog is sick
This guy is a prick anyway
This one he first moved in the neighborhood
And I didn't know he was much more prick
No I respected that
We got into some other thing later
He first out my kid and some other kids
Called them really bad names
And it was bad
Was it because they weren't picking up after the dog?
No it wasn't even that
But my dog shat in his yard
He had a weird accent too
And then
He said something I said
The dog is sick or whatever
One of my two or three excuses I had
I kept going this fucking guy
I was walking three four blocks away
Picked up the shit in a shit bag
Drove up to me so he picked up the shit in a shit bag
And brought the shit bag in his car
I respected it
And he came up to me and your dog shat
And he handed me the shit bag and I said
You know what? I respect that
I took the shit and I said
I had a shake and he didn't want to shake me
I said please I shook his hand
And he went on
And then I dropped the shit bag right there
But you're acting like you're noble
That this guy had to go pick up your shit
You be like you know what I respect that
It fucking
Depends on what you feed him
If you feed him the human food
Then this shit is as healthy as our shit
It's fine, it's good for the grass
Have you noticed that by the way?
Anything can take a shit on your yard
And it'll make the grass greener
Except for a human being
And I've shat on my own yard
Okay we gotta get into this
That's my shit bag
I apologize for the cough
No no problem
I had two cigars
And I put them in the fucking humidor
And I had it turned up too fucking high
And it fucked up the cigars
Like they get this fucking acceptable
There's like fucking little bug eggs in there
And if it's up too high they like hatch
I don't know what I have in
I think I got a virus in me
It's gradually
This is the most disgusting first 10 minutes
I don't want to discuss people
I'm not like one of these people
Who likes to talk about shit
On a scale of one to ten
As far as your
Upstanding citizen count
Ten being the best
One being like I can't wait for that motherfucker
To move out of this neighborhood
Aside from dog stuff
I'm a good neighbor
It looks like Manson say
Aside from fucking getting people killed
I'm a good dog
Aside from my dog
My dog is harmless
The dog couldn't hurt a fly
It said on the police report
It said the dog was sleeping
You freaked me out about that
You were home and somebody came in
And just like the boldness of that
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Took like whatever laptop or some
Took stuff and my dog
Didn't wake up
Cops come
Dog fucking bolts out there
Cops pull a pepper spray
No don't don't don't pepper spray him
When he had his moment to shine
Sleeping
You know I made this reference the other day
He's like that dude Bobby
In Saturday Night Fever
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I was looking for you
I would have done something
Bobby you actually made me
They fucking got Gus in Saturday Fever
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That's why they went back and got them
I've only seen it a couple of times
Saturday Fever?
I know that's a big one for you guys
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I'm from Manhattan
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I'm comfortable with my stance on it
I have such a fucking need to be liked
When we come back after this
Are you gonna talk about your needs to be liked?
I'm gonna talk about that and how
I just found out from my fucking neighbor
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I have that problem too
I think it's an east coast thing
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So today right
We saw Bruce Springsteen by the way
The other night down in Anaheim
Oh I thought you saw him around here
No no no no sorry that's cool
And I had never seen him and I was one of those guys going
Dude I don't get it all he does is sing about Jersey
But like so many people I know who work
Did he do his southern accent
Cause he's from Jersey but he does his southern accent
Sometimes which is weird to me
He didn't do that do you know what I'm talking about
I'm just you know he does like a southern accent
But he's from Jersey
He's the common man
But you're from Jersey
I like go ahead
I don't want to shit on Bruce
And I was down there like alright man
I wasn't gonna say born to be wild
Born to run or whatever I'll listen to this shit
Dude I gotta tell you something man
I think that I ever think that I gave a performance
After seeing what that guy did
Dude four songs in
I'm already blown away
He's blown away bands that are in their 20s and 30s
That I've seen just fucking killing
His voice sounds unreal
Goes out to the middle of the crowd
He's standing on this stage out there
People are going fucking nuts
And then he just lays back
Into the crowd and crowd surfs
Like 70 rows up to the
As the band keeps playing
Boom they go right into the closing verse
Dude that's on-core
That's somebody
Closing out a great concert
That was his fourth song
And it didn't peak there
He wore me out dude I was sitting down
Three and a half hours
Of that energy
He is no joke dude
It was sick
And the thing about that that I love so much
Is that he doesn't have to do three and a half hours
He loves to perform
He can totally get your money's worth
Whether you like it or not
I got longer than Schindler's list
What the fuck Bruce
I gotta go man
I gotta take my dog out to take a shit
Every time I'm so old
My back's killing me and shit
And they do that shit where
They hit the final note of the song
And Weinberg's doing the simple watch
And they're playing a chord
And you think he's gonna be like
And he always just goes
Oh my god
Like you just kept thinking
That this guy couldn't get
Dude it's fucking Anaheim
One of the cheesiest
He said it not me
That's Bill talking about Anaheim
Dude it doesn't even look real
I think back in the day when they had
All the orange groves and stuff
That had been some sort of personality
It's just one fucking strip mall
After another
It looks like a giant like
Feeling of any sort of culture
Either way
And he's down there performing
Like he's in giant stages
I respect that
So anyway, so today
That fucking born to run song
Which I never was into
So I'm up in the bathroom and I'm singing it
But I'm doing different lyrics and I'm singing to Nia
And it's all vulgar
Were you born to come?
No no no I was just saying how
I was starting off saying
About what a great guy I was
And that Nia doesn't appreciate it
But in the cadence of born to run
Yeah and then somehow there was something
About banging you in the ass
That's cool
So then it goes
Like banging you in the ass
Like you know I don't need a Christmas gift
I'll bang you in the ass
But she'll never let me do that
So I was singing that
And I got all the way to the
Loudest fucking out
So I walk out of the bathroom
I didn't realize my bedroom window was open
I go hey Nia did you like that Bruce Springsteen impression
And before she could answer
I heard somebody just in a talking voice goes
No and I was like oh shit
It was your neighbor
Yeah and I started thinking like holy fuck
How much have they been hearing
How loud am I
And then Nia I kept wanting Nia to make me
Feel better but she just goes you know
You're loud
There's times I pull up in the car
And it's making me like really like
Self conscious like fuck
I'm that loud
And I felt bad until you fucking come
And you hit the buzzer and I pick it up
And I'm like hello and you start screaming
Derrick cheater
Loud as fuck
Maybe it's just an east coast
As far as upstanding citizens and loudness
I've come to terms with the fact that
My neighbors know everything about me
If they wanted to like you know
Start a scandal on me
They know
My whole life
I got this buddy of mine back
He's a big giant Yankee fence
We have these epic fucking
Arguments
About sports where I'm just like
I got him on speakerphone
And I'm yelling like we're in a crowded bar
I can't imagine I feel bad for my neighbors
And what they've heard
I know they've heard me doing
My neighbors on this side have kids and the stuff
That I say cunt all the time
I already look so
But I look at it like she has a toddler
And I can never hear her kid
Well if you never hear the little
Snotty nose loud mouth kids screaming and crying
She probably never hears you should ask her
You never hear me say cunt
Or fuck you
Cause I don't want to offend your kids
You should just ask her
I don't know I think that would get
Whatever
You have to be mean to say yo
It takes a lot for me to be embarrassed
Like every audition you go into
And you eat your balls after a while
You just don't feel it anymore
But that I literally got
That made me feel
I felt embarrassed I was like wow
She heard all of that and like just the
The way she said no to
Was this was not the first time
She heard my loud voice
She just opened the window up for her
They opened the window literally for her
To get involved with the conversation
And I was fantasizing about all these cool
Words that she said but in the end
I just had to realize like you know what
She was right
I've come to terms with it
I got a loud speaking voice
But I'm in my house
I'm not bringing it down
So you hear what you hear and that's it
But I turn music up I got a pool
And I turn the fountains on when I'm there
It's not like
It's not a fault the fucking house is a two feet
Like I could literally take a running leap out
If I could leap through my bedroom window
Right I know we're on top of each other
Not the house I mean it's slamming to the side
You'd be there
I would definitely be there
So this is some sports questions
I know people want to know about your movies and shit
But I just figured that you've answered
All of that is a zillion times
Alright well before I go into more sports shit
We haven't started but I always end up talking sports
Like you know
Right out of the gate dude
You were in one of the greatest movies of my life
True romance
And I was wondering
Like you were basically roommates with Brad
Was Brad Pitt Brad Pitt at that point
Or was he just about to be
Almost Brad Pitt at that point
Like he had done like Thelma and Louise
He had done the movie with Robert Redford
He had done stuff
He had done California
And you know he wasn't the superstar
But you knew that he was going to be that
He was very well liked
And you know there was
He was about to be Brad Pitt
You knew that?
Good looking son of a bitch with his abs
No no no he was real
He was totally cool
You know the thing about true romance
Was that first of all the script was so great
When you read the script
You were like you know Quentin Tarantino scripts
They just read so easy
And you're just like laughing and like
What the fuck and it was so irreverent
And so you know every
I'd say about 95%
Of what wound up in true romance was written
Like it's so actor friendly
Like it's hard to score it up
So you know I had heard
Like you know initially it was like
Okay Christian Slater and Patricia Arquette
And Patricia Arquette I had just seen
In Sean Penn's movie called Indian Runner
That was like one of the first things she did
And she was great in that and I was like
Oh this is going to be dope
And you know Christian Slater was like
You know right at that time he was perfect
And then you heard oh well Gary Oldman's
Playing whatever
Oh that's cool and then Val Kilmer's
Playing Elvis really?
I wasn't cast shit
I had been going in for another part
I had been going in for
One of the mobsters
And actually
I got cast as one of the mobsters
As one of the younger mobsters
So I was like kind of like
Oh you know I was like
So you would have been in that scene with
The classic scene with Walken and
Around there
So then you heard like you know Walken's playing
The mobster holy shit
And then Dennis Hopper's playing his dad holy shit
And I'm 24 years old
At this point I had done
Zebrahead
A little part in Poetic Justice
Just to meet Tupac
I just wanted to meet him
And then a little part
In another movie
And then True Romance
I mean I was such a fan of all these guys
And I was so sort of
Everybody was
How big was Tupac by the time
He was Tupac
He was doing Poetic Justice
He was like a star
Because I thought he kind of came out
And he was with the Humpty dance guys
In like 90, 89, 90
Then he broke out on his own like 91, 92
I would think he was still like on the ride
He wasn't what he became
Like he became this iconic
I loved him though this was after Juice
I loved his music
And he came like after
You know when he was with Death Row
And he really took it to the next level
But he was big
And I thought he was
I thought Juice's performance in this movie
Juice was just like it was incredible
And I was just at that time
I mean I was still a huge fan of movies
And huge fan of actors
But at that time I would become enamored
With people's performances
And I liked his music
And I had a funny kind of relationship
And she kept telling me before he did anything
My friend Tupac
He's going to be a big star
And I had heard his name and then he came out with
Humpty dance and he came out with that
You know that one verse on digital underground
And then of course his solo album
And then Juice and I was just like
Damn this guy is special
So to do that it was John Singleton
Who was just off of Boys in the Hood
And Janet Jackson
When Janet Jackson was like
You worked with everybody
He's got every icon out there
Yeah and it meant a lot to me
I get excited now but at the time
I was young and I was like
Really excited
True romance and it was Quentin Tarantino
Who had done Reservoir Dogs
Natural Born Killers had come out
I think
He didn't direct this one
He wrote it and I had met Quentin
Originally at the Sundance Film Festival
Because the year that Reservoir Dogs was there
Was the same year that Zebrahead was there
And that was a big deal for me
It was a big deal for him
He was nobody
That was a really exciting time
For independent filmmaking
The script was being passed around
Hollywood felt like a smaller community
Everybody was talking about
True romance and
I got cast as one of these mobsters
This one was in it and that one was in it
They cast you
They cast me as one of the mobsters
So then
In the script Dick Richie
The character I wanted to play was written as a black
It was written as Dick Richie black
Young actor blah blah blah
So they were looking at young
Black actors
It was just written that way
And then they weren't finding them
And Tony Scott
The great Tony Scott
Rest in Peace
So much fun to work with
They called me
And Mary Vernu
The casting assistant who's now a huge casting director
And
I gotta fix this
Because the other casting director I can't remember her name
I never remember her name
They gave me a big break
Anyway, but I remember
I got the word from my agent that Mary Vernu
She thinks you're Dick Richie
And you should play that
I never considered the part because
She was like the way you are
And I was like that
I was looking for my big break
Really sort of wide-eyed
I don't know how actors do it
It's the hardest thing ever
It's so much easier as a stand-up
Sitting there doing an hour long commercial
That's your special
You just do it enough
That's how I finally got little parts
That I've been getting lately
The shit that you guys do
I've done a couple of pilots
The second the pilot is over
I'm going to go tell jokes
These other guys are like well
You're unemployed again
I don't know how you do that
It's cool
You said something when we were working together
About the stand-up thing
If you're good at it
Which you are and you're successful
You're never unemployed
It's a beautiful thing
I don't have that level of strength
To do
To try and make it
I had a passion for stand-up
But just sit there and be like
I'm going to get a bit part
And be in this movie
This giant production
Every fucking movie you see
There's like a hundred
Forty actors who don't work on that
But there's like two people that continue on
Then maybe somebody
In the other 38
Get something and then everybody else
Goes back to fucking waiting tables
You were in a movie
Which is the biggest thing ever
Everybody in your hometown
Hard that is
It's tough
I'm not saying
As opposed to digging a ditch
It's not physically hard
Emotionally it's hard
It's emotionally it is hard
To then fucking going back
To waiting the tables
And just knowing you're good enough
Just having
And it's being proved
Because you got a part
But it might not pay the bills
When you're
If you were quarterback and you came out
You threw 300 yards
And for some inexplicable reason
You sit on the bench again
For two fucking years
That's like Brady's thing
He was just sitting there
Being an actor
The emotional highs and lows are tough
I could never do it
It sucks
It's the worst part of it
It does it seems like it sucks
That's why it always makes me laugh
When actors
Stand-up has this weird sort of like
It's respected and they also look at you
Like you're slapping yourself and they have
With a rubber chicken
It is obnoxious
Just ask my neighbor
It's fucking obnoxious
But there is this respect for it
But the balls it takes to get on that
I feel like
There is a lot of humiliation
But the level
God willing
And I would just be thinking the whole time
As I'm doing this
I have to be so fucking unreal in this thing
Or else I go back to Applebee's
I don't know how they do it
It's tough
That's why when people ask me
What do you need to do
To be in this business
I always say you have to
It has to be something you have to do
It can't be something that you
Kind of want to do
If it's not something that you have to do
If it's intrinsically
In you that you have to do it
Don't even try to do it
Because there's too much
It takes too much out of you
It has to be something that's within you
It's like if you were a writer
What do I have to do to be a writer?
Keep going
And just because you're not on
Writing on the Sopranos
It has to be something that's organic
I think you just have to have that
Psycho
Once you start down the road
There's no way I'm stopping
No matter how many times
I gotta tell you what's crazy
I know a couple of comics
Throughout the years
They're these legendary guys
Who never got beyond doing open mics
Or doing the occasional spot
And they fucking bomb
98%
Like bomb
Like quit the business bomb
For the last five fucking years
And you see all these funny people
That you run into on the road
There's people out there that write
Really funny shit
That's funny than half the fucking comics
But try going on stage
I can never do it
Because it's a whole fear of bombing
And then you see this guy
Just night after night after night
Basically living the horror
That everybody doesn't want
And he just keeps fucking coming back
That's dictuitiveness
And actually apply it to something you're good at
You'd be great
Right, that's fucked up
It is, but anyways, let's go back
Because I know people will probably upset that
So true romance
This cast was compiled
So anyway, so on a Saturday
They needed to cast this part
It was like a week or two weeks away from shooting
So on a Saturday
Which is unusual for show business
And in general to do anything on a Saturday
You know, show business
They take all of December's off
The 4th of July is like a three week holiday
You know, like this business
Half of September is Jewish holiday
Any holiday in this business
So for them to do something on a Saturday
There was a necessary, you know, there was some urgency
So I go in there and they're like
We feel like you're this guy
Who you are and just read
And it was with me, Tony Scott and the casting directors
And I went through all the Dick Richie scenes
And I said to them
Once that door opened
And I was like, once I started thinking about
I was like, I love this part
I love this character
I remember I said to them, don't let me leave
Until I get it right
And I went in and I kept reading
And you knew to say that at 24
Because it wasn't any hustle
It wasn't any hustle
Like now you could say that's like
Oh, that's a smart thing to say
Because once I locked into the idea
Of me doing it, I was like
When I was younger
I would go in there with blinders on
I would be like, yo, I'm going in here
I'm getting this shit, I'm doing this shit
And that's it
That's what I'm talking about
That psycho focus
That's what I had
I wanted it and it was right there
So I went in there, I did a good job
And I remember one thing
Is that behind me
When I went to go set up in the room
All the people that had been cast
Were sitting behind me
So it was like Christopher Walk and Samuel Jackson
Gary Oldman, all their headshots
Playing this part, I remember seeing that
And I was just like
Trying not to pay attention to it
But I remember walking over to the thing
And seeing all of them and I was like
I gotta fucking do this, I gotta get this shit
And then they called me
Two or three days later
And they said you got the part
And it was like the character in the movie
Because it was like you got the part, I got the part
And then I remember
I went through a rehearsal
It was me and Kristen Slater and Patricia Arquette
And Patricia Arquette was fine
At that time
I had a huge crush on her
Me too, and she was beautiful
And she was sexy and really sweet
And I was tripping out, I was like she's fine
And I just saw her in Indian Runner
And Kristen Slater was like a part of my youth
Watching him, so I'm just starting
To be in the show business
I had done a few things
Because he started so young
He might have been a little older
Maybe not, but he was Kristen Slater
He was a huge star
So I'm like tripping out
We're like having this bonding sessions
And we go out to eat and we're eating lunch
And I'm like what the fuck am I doing here
And we're reading scenes and it's Tony Scott
And he directed all these movies
And Tony Scott was
Just such a...
Tony Scott, the way he treats actors
And the way he treated me at that time
Was a big thing because
I was the low man on the totem pole
At least I looked at myself like that
But I also had ideas and thoughts
About the character and he was so open
And some things he would say
Great, great, do that
Some things he would say no I don't do that
But he gave me a voice and it was the first time
Where I felt like the first time
I had only done four or five things
Not like I've been trying to do it
You were treating her like you were pro
Like you know what you were doing
But it really gave me confidence to go forward
Like yeah I have a say in these things
And he just was so positive
And so much energy
And so enthusiastic every day
And his energy would supersede everybody
On the crew and he just was
You know the guy that I actually
Was such a huge fan of
He was devastated when he passed
Was Chris Penn
He was fun
You were in that final show
Where you were covering up and everything
And you know what the day this goes out
I'm going to send you a picture
You could treat with this
I found these cool pictures from on the set
I'll send it to you
Like personal pictures that I took
But Chris Penn, Tom Sizemore
And these guys were like
Tom Sizemore was in everything at the time
And Chris Penn these were dudes
And they were in a lot of shit
And I'm like with them and they're treating me
Like I'm one of them
And Chris Penn and Sizemore
So he was just a sweet guy
There was a Reservoir Dogs
Anniversary DVD
That I watched with this buddy of mine, Derosa
And it had all of them
Telling stories
Chris Penn's stories were just like
He was just that hanging out guy
He was a sweet guy
Just sweet
I always felt like the way he
I loved him in Reservoir Dogs
At close range
And I went on this whole
Chris Penn tear
That anything he was in
He did some obscure movie
Not obscure, but it was one with Harvey Keitel
I can't remember what it was
His landlord or something
I just remember him running up the side of the house
Trying to see if Keitel was in there
I can't remember what the name of the movie was
But this is back when Blockbuster video
I'd be going there every day
Reservoir Dogs was like
Ground Zero for me
And every actor in there
Just watching all of that
And I became
Not like I stopped, I was just such a huge fan
Of that guy, were they like hilarious?
They were just hilarious and fun
And warm
And big personalities
Victor Argo, he's another guy
Passed away, Victor Argo was one of the mobsters
He was in Taxi Driver
He was the guy in the store
When Travis shoots the guy
When he tries to rob the bodega
And he's in a lot of scores
I'm bugging out
That I'm working
And then Samuel Jackson
Sam's treating me like he knows me
And Val Kilmer is there
And I walk into the makeup trailer
And Val Kilmer is doing his Elvis makeup
And he's talking in the Elvis voice
Finding the character
I remember having a conversation
It was crazy
He's sitting next to Val Kilmer who's doing Elvis
It's crazy, I'm tripping out
I'm literally tripping
What did you do?
How did you not feed
Into that and go, oh my god, I'm not worthy to be here
How did you keep yourself settled?
This is becoming like inside the actress studio
What I would do and what I always do
Still to this day when I worked with somebody
When I worked with you, I had to get myself together
Shut up
My ego actually entertained that
For half a second
I was on premium blend
Maybe it was a thrill for him
At the time I used to
I would enjoy and
Be a fan when it was time to be a fan
I would never invade space
Or talk to them about and I never would go up to somebody
And sort of
Do what I'm doing to you right now?
I remember me and my friend Kevin Corrigan
Who wanted to play the young gangster
And we had worked together
On my first movie Zebrahead
And we had worked together on something else
And we were both, like he got cast
Now we're friends now and I always looked at Kevin
Like he's a real actor, he's really good
He's been in tons of stuff, he's on twitter
We could tweet out Kevin
And we saw Christopher Walken
In his wardrobe
For the first time
By the craft service
And Kevin, like Kevin would probably
Put Christopher Walken as his number one
Like I love Christopher Walken, but I would go
Like DeNiro's my number one
And Kevin was like, and I was like, you gotta go talk to him
I'm hyping him up to, go talk to him
Like you're like him, go talk to him
And I remember he went over and talked to him
In conversation, he would tell it better
It was kind of anti-climatic
Because you know, Chris is bugged out
Chris is so much more funnier than you would think
But at the time, he was younger
So he really had that spooky look
And that dark black hair
And he had the wardrobe on
So he had the suit on with this long trench coat
What was his character name? Vincent?
Oh, it wasn't Vincent Vega, that was the blonde
It was Coralini
Or I don't remember
He was the Antichrist
But I remember seeing him by craft service
By the truck, and I was like, oh, shit
And I mean, it was just
It was just such an exciting time, and Gandolfini
In our boat, Gandolfini was
That was his first thing
So he was even less than, he had never acted
In a movie before, like he had done stage
So he was really nervous
He was really freaking out
So he was playing the mobster, and I remember
Being there watching that scene with him in Patricia Arquette
And I'm just, I would go to this
Oh, you hung out, you would
Just to go, just to watch
The scene with Christopher Walken
And Dennis Hopper, I was there
Watching it
It was a small set
And it was a small little concert
As that whole thing was
Where you were just sitting there going, this is classic
Crazy, yeah, you knew
That was the only movie that I've ever done
Where you, I could say
And I have a pretty good track record
The only movie I've ever done where I knew it was gonna be great
To all the movies that I've done
Highs, lows, good or bad
Whatever, you knew it was special
When they would go
I gotta ask some geek questions
Go ahead, whatever
So when they would say cut
After they did a run through of the scene
Would there be any laughing and joking around
Or was it real serious?
It wasn't serious, like I'm taking myself seriously
But I think the tone of the scene
Because it was serious, you know
I remember a couple of times a line would get messed up
And you know, there'd be a little bit of giggling
And Tony, you know, I was behind the monitor
You know, being super quiet
And literally saying to myself
I can't fucking believe I'm here
Like tripping out, because we all
When you read that scene, that was word for word
You knew that scene, you knew what it was gonna be
And just to hear them
I don't think I had headphones on listening to it
But you could hear them, you know
Just to hear them and be around it
Like you knew you were watching something special
Like I remember feeling like this is something special
And then when you see the scene, you know
Like I was there, like I remember sitting there
You know, and did you feel as
Each time they did it a little different
Or did they have their choices down
They had their choices down
Walking fluctuates a little bit
But I think the scene was so well written
This is like almost 20 years ago
But the scene was so well written
You didn't need to really...
Once you made it, you're locked in, you locked in
Because it was just the writing
So many moments in that scene
I love when Walken clasps his hands together
Like, please, don't make me
Whatever he says there
It's been a while since I've seen it
But that point where Hopper
Just like
You know, can I have one of those Chester Fields
And he's just like, you know what
I'm going out fucking swinging
And when he finishes the story
He sees that look on his face
Where he's like preparing himself
I'm gonna get killed now
And it was just one of the greatest scenes
It really is
It really is special
And you knew it was going to be special
And when they got cast, you knew it was going to be great
How long did it take them to shoot it?
They probably had a whole afternoon
Or maybe the whole day
But they might have had the whole afternoon
Because the thing about the scene, there's not much
Other than the acting
There's not much logistically going on
So there's not that little trailer
It might have been a whole day
I know I was there for a few hours
Where did they shoot that?
It wasn't Warner Brothers
I mean, I don't think it was Warner Brothers
I can't remember exactly where
But it was a stage
I feel like it was Culver City
It might have been Sony, I think it was Sony
I think it was Sony, Culver City
So it was cool, man
I had to watch that again immediately
Because I also like...
Now that I've been out in LA here for like five years
The same way I like watching old movies about New York City
And seeing stuff that's still standing there
And that shit that changed
I'm starting to get like that for LA out here
I just took to go to the locations
Sometimes, yeah, I'll actually do that
Like it bums me out that where they shot
Reservoir Dogs out in Eagle Rock
Doesn't exist anymore
I just want to... at least is the alley still there
Where they pull the cop out of the trunk
I'm a geek for old sports stadiums
I love that stuff
And I'm a geek for like...
There's probably 20
Like guy movies
I don't give a fuck about
What women want, I don't know where they shot that
Like if there's a place where they shot
Goodfellas, if there's a place
Reservoir Dogs
The typical hacky guy list
There's no left turns
In the films that I like
Me neither
I want to talk to you
About Hooper real quick
Unless you had something more to add
All I could say is it was a great experience
It was everything that you would imagine
Everybody was great
In Brad Pitt
It was a special film
To be a part of
It was a special time for me
Yeah, you were in one of those rare movies
Before I described that
Two people continue on
You were in one where it seemed like
Everybody worked out of that
In fact, one of the guys
Who played
In the scene
The walk-in scene with Hooper
The guy was over at the fridge
He speaks in Italian
He's a good friend of mine
He's in tons of stuff
He was in the wire
He's in day works all the time
And he was in the scene
But he's one of those guys
He would have been back in the day
When Blockbuster Video was still around
He'd be one of those guys that you gradually
Like who's this guy
How the fuck
Back in the day did you figure out
What other movies they did
Before IMDB
Muscle it through
Maybe you'd buy like that book
You'd buy the book
But you wouldn't even be able to keep up
People would have to have a conversation
He was in this and you'd call friends
And now you could just text
And having that conversation the other day
The art of conversations
And figuring things out is gone
And you look at your phone and you've got
Now on the new download
On the iPhone where they have
That GPS thing
Which is great now
You don't have to look down at the phone
You can just sit there mindless
That I don't mind
But sometimes like
What was he in and you could kind of
Oh yeah he was in that
But you just get it all taken away from IMDB now
Oh yeah and it gets rid of the debates
I bet you 20 bucks
20 bucks says he was in that fucking movie
Then it would get resolved six weeks later
But now you can't even get to the bet now
Speaking of betting
This is a fucking question here
That I want to
I got to ask
What about the thing you were saying to me about
Red Orbeck you heard that he was gay
You said that
I was like I don't know that's your guy
I heard you heard that he had a bungalow
In West Hollywood and I was like
That's a big skill or you should break that
I know where this is coming from
This is coming from you being a Nix fan
And you have two little championship banners
That have to be turning yellow at this point
Yeah that's true
I wasn't going to drop in like that
But you did say something about Red Orbeck having a bungalow
In West Hollywood and there was a whole scandal
I thought it was you
I understand it's the jealousy
Somebody brought that up to me
Probably another sad ass fucking Nix fan
I was surprised
I was like how could Red Orbeck have a bungalow
In West Hollywood and there was a whole other thing
I heard that's how you got into true romance
I heard you gave him a favor
You gave him a fucking handy
And the business was shut down
Got one of his cigars so to speak
Fucking New York
Yes, basketball fan, Nix fans
All these fucking Nix fans
Who've lived in Brooklyn
And have lived die hard fucking Nix fans
All of a sudden the New Jersey
Nets move into their burrow
And then all of a sudden
They just all Brooklyn Nets fans
Are they all Brooklyn Nets fans?
Enough of them are that it's shocking to me
The fact that when they were beating
The Nix in the end
When they played in Brooklyn
And you knew that the Nets were going to beat the Nix
That all those people were standing up going Brooklyn
Yeah, yeah, yeah
Like taunting the New York Nix
To me that's like some Benedict Arnold shit
Well here's the thing
Here's the thing
Please explain me what the thing is
Let me put it in Boston terms
Let's say a team
Became the Dorchester Ducks
Basketball team
Like I don't know Boston so well
But I know that Dorchester is like
There is a place in Dorchester
And there are ducks up there
Let's say a team
Became like a sub team of Boston
And it was Dorchester
Neighborhood that's like very close knit
And it's in a lot of pride
And a lot of people have come through there
And it's a working class neighborhood
Brooklyn is that
I get that
That's the thing
So I think some people flipping
Is because of that
Because it's like yo
This is Brooklyn like if you're from Brooklyn
And you grew up a Nix fan
For me I'm curious
Who are going to be the Brooklyn Nets fans
Well here's my question
The Nix are on a fucking tear
They beat the Heat last night
Something like that 13 and 4
Something crazy right
I don't count my chickens with that shit
Let's just say hypothetical
They finally pushed through this year
And they won a championship
And all those people in Brooklyn
Who've been sitting there
And they went through all the finger roll
Instead of the dunk they went through all the fucking shit
With the Nix
And all this
You're not going to be roof falling
And that's just like
I guess I get it to a certain extent
If you're a kid
Like I get like little kids
But if you're some guy
And is 30 years old
So whatever you started watching when you're 6
You got a quarter of a century
Of fucking just rooting
For this team
And then all of a sudden
The fucking New Jersey Nets
The New Jersey Nets
It's an interesting thing
I don't know
It's going to be a conflict of interest
Because the crazy thing is they're both doing well
And if they play each other in the playoffs
It's going to be interesting
I would be curious
At the Brooklyn Arena
Which I haven't been to
How nice that place is
I just saw it on TV
I heard it's really nice
The little suites that they have up there
They're like little mini brown stones
That's what the floor is supposed to look like
I guess if you have a nice brown stone
That's the pattern of the wood on the floor
And then you look at the fucking Celtics
We have the parquet floor
There's a bunch of cinder blocks
You knock that shit box down
The Boston Garden
Get the fuck out of my house
You knock that shit box down
You knock that piss hole down
That shit hole
I know what this is coming from
I'm standing up now
This guy's about to assault me
No, no, you guys could never win
I get it
Kenny Skywalker
Bernard King
And they all lost to the shamrock
I just want to say
You guys knock that shit hole down
And then you have a new arena
What's it called?
The fucking fleet center
You should have done that
You should have made it
Tied-tected and stuff
But you cut corners
Make it nice
Do something nice to it
But you want it to make a shit box
Knock the one down and then make another shit box
You walked by it
I've never been there
You sound like a guy who's never gone to the Boston Garden
I've never been there
Did you go on that tour of Fenway
Were we together?
No, we did
That fucking place
Oh, the history
I could go to the museum for a history
It was a piss hole
If they sold mouse ears there
Like you were at Disneyland
You told me you loved it
The history
Is it not a shit box
I couldn't even fit in some of those seats
There's poles blocking
It's a shit hole
It's character
Barclays wanted to revamp there and make a nice arena
God bless them
I'm not giving them shit
I think it's great that they did that
But what I'm saying is that you went from
Oh, the fans
You went from the Boston Garden
If you consider winning 16 titles
There a shit hole
I didn't say what they were
I'm just saying the garden itself was a piss box
Listen, I'm not going to say I didn't need a coat of paint
I'm not going to say that the electrical didn't
Crap out on you every once in a while
I'm not saying that
But it's better than the Madison Square Garden
My friend, they don't call
You can't even compare
What do they call it?
What do they call it?
The most famous arena in the world
It'll never get knocked down
This is the thing
First of all, that's the second one
They already knocked down the first one
I know that
And secondly
The fucking most famous arena in the world
You know who came up with that?
The people who fucking own the thing
Well, they're good marketing people
That's all I'm saying
If I anoint myself
A fucking nickname
You should call them to cover up to something
About the Fleet Center
It's like almost not even in Boston
I went there and I was like
Where is this place?
No, it's in downtown Boston
I don't know, it just seemed weird
We've won a bunch of titles
I liked it
Us working on the heat
What do you like there? The swan boats?
I like the food
I respect the sports
I love Larry Joe Bird
It's his birthday today, Larry Joe Bird
Love him
It's Larry Joe Bird's birthday
We're taping this on the 7th
It's his birthday too, I never knew they had the same bird
Then he loved Larry Bird
I asked him, why didn't you like him over Magic Johnson
Because Larry made me feel like I could make the league too
Right
He made it feel like anyone could do it
So Larry
I'll tell you a thing about the Boston Celtics
I'll tell you something after your thing
I grew up hating the Celtics
I couldn't even appreciate how good they were
And how good Larry Bird was
Everybody, I hated them
My nickname in Brooklyn
Is Larry Bird
Because of the way I look
Dude, if you could grow one of those awful mustaches
It's just my coloring
I don't look like Larry Bird
No, I don't look like him
Just because I play basketball
I never had a shag
He had the haircut
Every white dude had in the 80s
Everybody had that mullet
I didn't have a mullet, but I was feathered
Of course you did
And I bet you had some sort of
With your liking of hip hop and everything
You probably had one of those thin Puerto Rican
I wish, shaped up mustaches
At the time when Larry...
No, at the time I was too young to have one
But I'll tell you something
I told you this
I really loved the Celtics team that they have now
And what they did to Miami last year
Pushing them to game 7
That was one of my favorite Celtic teams of all time
Me too, all hard
And I've had mixed feelings about Kevin Garnet
Especially now that he's a Celtic
I respect him, I love his career
He's awesome, the way he plays
Inspires me in what I do
He plays at the same level all the time
And they went out on their fucking shields last year
And almost beat those motherfuckers
Because I don't care who it is
The Knicks, the Nets, the Utah Jazz
The fucking New Orleans Pelicans
Whatever they're becoming
Somebody needs to beat the heat
See me, I feel that way about the Lakers
I hate the Lakers
And I actually think Kobe Bryant
This will get me some fucking emails
I think he's one of the most overrated
Five-time champions of all time
Well, go ahead, I can argue it
What can you say?
He's been on nothing but pile-on teams
Like everything that they give LeBron shit for doing
Going to Miami, Kobe has been living
He just hasn't had to leave because they bring everybody in
Dude, what he did the other night
When he walked off the court with 10 seconds left
Did you see that shit?
Four seconds
Four seconds, whatever you did
You left your teammates sitting out there
All that does is breed resentment
That guy is a cancer
He's one of the greatest individual one-on-one players
Ever since Jordan
I would say he's number two behind Jordan
But he doesn't make anybody better around him
He breeds fucking resentment
I agree
But I love Kobe
He's a blood, he's an animal
And that's what he has over the rest
Kobe would have played with the five stitches
Do you think Kobe Bryant would have played with the five stitches
And I'm not disrespecting Carmelo
I love you
But do you think Kobe Bryant would have played with the five stitches
Kobe Bryant could be missing a leg and he would play
He would have played against Miami last night
That's the difference between him and everybody else
But this is my criticism of the guy
The guy does not know how to get along
With other fucking people
He's the Bobby Fisher of basketball
He fucking ran shack out of town
Like he said the other day that you're going to score your 30th thousand point
Did you ever think you'd do that
And he says oh you know I'm not into individual stuff
To me it was always about champions
It's like that's why you ran shack out of town
At the height of his fucking powers
You'd won three championships in four years
Shack leaves the very next year
He wins one with the heat
But you got your 50 a game
I'm not saying that he hasn't done some things
That he probably regrets
He would never say this
But I'm saying I love that guy in his game
And I've learned to appreciate him
And his intensity
You're not saying anything
You're not saying anything that nobody hasn't said
All they do is blow Kobe
I'm not blowing him
You're fucking giving him a hand job
He deserves a fucking hand job
And you know what
Wait let's go back
He would have played with the stitches that Carmelo
Carmelo I love
Carmelo is retarded
He's sick
And he's becoming a great great team player
And all that shit
Yes he is and I've definitely seen that
And his talent is immense
His talent is immense
But last night while I was watching that game
He might play, he might not play
Last night with five stitches on your non shooting
Alan Iverson would have played
Kobe Bryant would have played
I'm not questioning the guy's heart
You know when to play anyone else in the NBA now
I'm saying his inability
To get along with other fucking guys
Has fucked the Lakers
When does he just take over a fucking series
Has he ever done that
Didn't he do that against you guys
When
That series that we just
They just beat you
This was his quote
The MVP of the game seven of that series
Was the fucking officiating crew
We
They beat you
They fucking beat you
Yes they did
This is my thing
Like the fucking Giants
They fucking beat us
You mean in the Super Bowl last year
And the Super Bowl before that
When they beat the Patriots twice
Yes they did
Oh sorry
When you guys were 18 and 0
I just gotta let you get through this
And then they beat you in the Super Bowl
Are you talking about that year or last year
When they beat you in the Super Bowl
Was that last year
I'm sorry I get confused
You feel better
But you're talking about when the Giants beat the New England Patriots
In the last two Super Bowls
I know it's hard for you to remember because it happened twice
I give it up
I definitely give it up
But my thing about the
Celtics
Celtics Lakers finals
Should be decided by the players
You put your fucking whistle away
You don't call 35 fucking files on one team
And I sat there
And I watched the Lakers
Make a fourth quarter comeback against the Celtics
From the fucking foul line
I remember
If you tell me one memorable fucking shot
In that fucking game
There's only one, was meta world peace
He hit a three pointer
And the only thing that made it memorable
Was he was so fucking high on whatever the fuck his therapist gave him
He was waving to the crowd
Like he was already at the fucking parade
That was the only memorable
Other than that it was Rashid Wallace
Just standing there as Kobe jumps into him
Which I can see in no call
But to call a fucking offensive foul
And Kobe said at the end of the game
Because I don't know how we won that game
So I'm saying that this guy
He's sick
One of those guys probably thought Peyton Manning was better than Brady
Too for the longest fuck
No, I'm not saying there's not flaws
I went through my hating
My hating
Kobe phase two
You would think that I hate the guy
I don't
I don't
But my fucking thing about that guy is
He's really
In a very openly way
A fucking cancer
He's the Bobby fish of the NBA
You know what he is? He's reverse Magic Johnson
Where Magic Johnson
Could walk into a locker room
And look at me
On his team inexplicably
And he could somehow figure out
Where he needed to give me the ball
Which would probably be right under the fucking net
And somehow get eight points
Kobe would walk in
And would fucking be like
Get that fucking piece of shit out of here
He would tell you to get the fuck out of here
And people think that's because
He gives a fuck about himself
Dude, those championships
He doesn't go to the front fucking office
Because he wants the Lakers and the team
To win a championship
That winning championships is another individual
Stat for him
It's all about fucking him
I'm not going to argue or debate
With you about any of that shit
I think the guy is retarded though
I'm going to say that in the best way
And the fact that he's doing it
This year
The fact that he's never
You're never going to see him dip
He's never going to dip
Absolutely, but the thing about it is though
If you really give a fuck about winning championships
You don't walk out on your team
Dude, he made everybody on that team his bitch
At that point
It becomes
When did it become DeWight Howard
By the way
That's that LA
The stew and those guys on the Lakers
They were saying it last night on TBS
When I was watching you next beat the heat
Everyone was going DeWight Howard
I don't know, I don't like his headband
I think it's fucking with him
How old are you
What are you doing
Put it on straight, do something
I don't like the headband
They've brought everybody in short of Jesus Christ
To help this guy get five fucking rings
And then they compare him to Kobe Bryant
Who had Luke Longley and Bill Cart
To Jordan
That's who he won with
Give me a fucking break
The rings of the rings
The ring is the thing
That's not it, it's different
It's like the steroid error and not the steroid error
This is the pile on error
Oh it is the pile on error
Miami started it
It started that bullshit
And you guys in Boston
That was a pile on championship
So I can fucking admit that
That's a pile on championship
Miami's was a pile on championship
Shack, Phil Jackson and all those fucking guys
That was a pile on
They're like the Yankees of basketball
Every year they're going to be signing
These giant fucking guys
I'm not a Lakers fan
I'm not going to sit here and defend the Lakers
Like that
I want somebody to make sure they beat the heat
I love the showtime Lakers
And as much as I hated those guys
Like back then when like
They had a crew too
But yeah but it was like draft picks
But the whole NBA was different then
I know but I wish it went back to that where it was just like
Year after fucking year
You gotta gloom your guys
When the Sixers came in you knew who was coming to town
And you had fucking three years of fucking hating those guys
I agree
Now it's like the guy you fucking hate the most
He's on your team
Putting the fucking hat on and it's stupid
Ray Allen did
I'm with Kevin Garnett I don't say hello
I'm on that shit
I as a Boston fan don't mind what he did because he wasn't ours to begin with
We got him as a free agent
But we knew what he was
He'll go down there to Miami
Because that's the way it's done now
They all fucking hang out and drink pina coladas in the off season
They're all friends
What if you and you and me all got on the same team
And then we're like Larry in Magic
See you're coming around to my side
I don't like all that AAU shit
They all grew up together
That's the problem with the NBA
They all grew up together playing basketball since they were 11-12 years old
You're not gonna fight them
Moses Malone
Met
Bill Lambier on a basketball court
Moses Malone went against
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar when they came out there
Magic and Larry the first time they went out
They went face to face was playing against each other
Right
They travel and they're 11-12
Everybody's kissing and hugging
That's what's wrong with the NBA
You think that fucking Lonnie Shelton
Was hanging out with Daryl Dawkins
Hell fucking no
Lonnie Shelton is
Seattle Superstar
He was like a goon
You think that Bob Lanier and artist Gilmore
Were like yucking it up during the off season
In Kabul
These guys were all kissing and hugging
So my thing is
It isn't because I already always sound like
A fucking crabby old man with a tampon
But like
My thing is
That's how it's done now
But don't fucking put these people
In the same category
As Larry Bird
We played like a bunch of sissies last night
No fucking layups this game
That type of shit is gone
It's gone now
You'll never see the two like when Doc and Larry fought
That was shocking
You'll never see that happen
LeBron and Kobe won't get into a fist fight
What Dwayne Wade did to Kobe
Last year during the All-Star game
See that's why I like Kobe Bryant
I like him too
I like him but I'm just saying
He's on that shit
I think about Kobe's
If he acts like a fucking asshole
Stephen A. Smith was still blowing the guy
He walked off from his fucking team
Call him out
Kobe's on that shit though
Like he's like fuck these guys
He's literally like fuck these guys
And I like that fuck these guys
I don't think he's like fuck these guys
I think he's like fuck these guys when he's playing you
And at the end of the year he goes
Fuck this, those guys just beat us
Get us their best guy
I don't know about all that
But I like that he's like fuck these guys
And I like that Garnett is like fuck these guys
And you want to go to the Miami Heat
Then fuck you Jesus Shuttlesworth
Fuck you
No Kobe is a hard guy to hate
Even as a fucking Celtic fan
But it just pisses me off
When they compare these guys today
He's the closest comparison you can make though
No he isn't
At all the guys left Kobe Bryant is the closest
Not even close
I didn't say
He's the closest and you're saying not even close
He doesn't make anybody around him better
He's all about himself
He's not about the team
I agree
No but I'm saying from that mindset
Of that tenacity
Yeah well that's a whole other story
I'm just saying
I'm just saying
Bill Russell is the most overrated icon
In sports
It was like when LeBron was playing in high school
You know those clips of him playing high school
The pimple faced
You know the 17 year old
That's what Bill Russell was when he was playing in the NBA
I'm not saying he wasn't great
But he never got to compete against
He's an extremely good competition
If you're only playing
Jerry West
These are not centers
Of course you're going to block every shot
You're seven feet everywhere
I know we beat you guys a lot
We're in converse
I'm just saying that whole 11 championships
Whatever
I'll go with this
What would Bill Russell be now
He'd be like
You know what he'd be in the NBA today
He'd be like Serge Abaka
If he was lucky
If he was lucky
No that's if you teleported him
But if he actually came up in this era
With his talent
The basketball knowledge
I'm going to get so much trouble for saying that
The nutrition that they have
They'd all be bulked up
You can't compare different eras
But I will say this
Early on
Every sport has that
You can
I probably could've made the league
Me too
Which I couldn't
The Yankees are a team
As much as I hate them
What makes them the greatest
Franchise ever
More so than the 27
They went
Babe Ruth
To Lou Gehrig
To Joe DiMaggio
40 years of getting
Jordan
In a row
And everybody else is scouting people
We fucking sold Babe Ruth
That's why I hated the curse of Babe
I felt that was a cop out
We're fucking idiots
It wasn't no curse it was just you guys fucked up
Unbelievably
And deserved every
Not the fans
But the organization
They could've given
What titles
They don't even count to me
This makes me feel
Like any Laker fan
How happy that made them feel
Those titles don't even count to me
They just don't count
Because they're just
Whatever man
We were just down three games to none
To a $215 million team
We came back
Do you know that'll never happen again
Unless the New York Yankees do it
To have another
Team
With like four first ballad hall of famers
Choke away four games in a row
You're never going to see it again
Unless the fucking Yankees do it
Because they're the only ones who can afford
That $250 million fucking team
Yes
That's all I'm going to say yes
You got to take that one
The same way I got to take your giant shit
You mean when they beat their fucking
Patrons?
That's crazy
Evidently you were on one of those ghost stories
Yes
Celebrity ghost stories thing
And they bluntly asked
What the fuck is this
It was totally real
So you knew they were going to say
How full of shit
No but we got part two
The part two is even better
It's coming up on
Fuck I don't know the name of the new show
But it's something something
And we went back to school
I know I'm familiar with the show
Where it's like celebrities
I had a encounter with a ghost
And I told it
And it was real
You believe in ghosts
I had a ghost encounter
I can't find the fucking thing
Wait a second
Take me through this
I think you're just afraid of the dark
No I'm not
I went to a really old high school
Billy Cunningham went to Doug Mo
And Barbara Streisand
And the rapper Special Ed
Wow
That's a pretty eclectic
A Rasmus Hall High School in Brooklyn
No wait I thought you were from Manhattan
I went to high school
We were at an hour and seven
Effort of the list
Let's know
We'll wrap it up with the ghost story
It's not worth it
I promise you it's not
There's other things
Fuck you you saw a ghost
I want to hear this
When we were in high school we got locked in a room
We were 15 years old
We got the shit scared out of us
We went on the thing
And I talked about it
Slow it down
You were in this high school
It's really old
It's a really old high school
There's ghosts in there
And you're going to your science class
Is this after hours?
It was after school
It was like during
Ghost never come out during the time
We had detention
It was like the urban version
Of the breakfast club
It was like the Brooklyn version
Of the breakfast club
So instead of weed
He had coke crack
We're sniffing it
And we're drinking beers in 40s
But you know
They make things seem heightened
On the celebrity ghost stories
It's
You okay?
I don't want to talk about
Oh my god
Okay
Alright
It's too hard to talk about
It's emotional
I don't want to get so
It brings you to a bad spot
I don't want to bring up
Your true life ghost story
I wanted to tell you
The reason why I'm wearing my Giants
The reason why I'm wearing my Giants t-shirt
And my matching Giants sneakers
Is because my son has his playoff game today
You look like a make-a-wish kid with that matching shit on
But go ahead
We have a playoff game today
I have to get to the field an hour and a half
Before to check the grass to make sure everything's good
Because you know it's the
Football
Football
But you know he's 10
I'm not the coach but I'm the inspirational
Leader of the team
You look like that fireman Ed
Exactly
Exactly what I am
Of the Barrington
Of the Barrington
10 year old league
I am the fireman Ed of the Giants
You're a great dad
We won the Super Bowl last year
And we have our playoff game today
Are you yelling at the other little kids?
That's right bitch
It's very good in that way
But I will say one game
That we played
It wasn't Tony Gonzalez's kid
But Tony Gonzalez's kid was on that team this year
We were losing
And I was like we're gonna win this game
And every time we'd score a touchdown
Not Tony's a Gonzalez's kid
But he was on their team
But this fat kid
Was like what's the big deal
You just got one touchdown
And I ignored him the first time
Because I'm going nuts
So this is a fat kid on the other team
A fat 9 year old at this point
It could be between 10 and 12
It could be 10 or 12
Let's make him sound 12 so you don't sound that bad
Let's make him 12
He's hot comedians too
I don't say anything to him
And then we scored again
Now we're down 6 points
This guy's getting so excited
Every time they score
I'm looking over at him
He's like don't speak to me
You're not allowed to talk to me
And then when we won the game
I got your head
You fat fuck
Get off the Twinkies
And then stock up
You could say that back in the day
You could literally duke it out with his dad
And in the end even though there was blood and teeth
There would be no lawsuit
We won the game
And after the game you lined up in the handshake
And Tubby saw me
But I'm always really
You're in the stance
I'm the inspirational leader
I'm the inspirational coach
Because we were losing they brought me at halftime
To come over there and give a speech
So I gave a speech
It's like my version of Hoosiers every week
I love it
I gave Fatso a good 5
And I'll pop on the ass after the game
And say good game
Did he get mad or no
No but he knew that we had a little thing
It was like
That moment in the hangover
When the little kid was like
But I was the little kid
So hopefully we'll play them in the playoffs
They're the chiefs
Where are they at right now
What level? Is it the first round of the playoffs?
Today's the first round of the playoffs
And we're playing a kid
I have a speech planned out today
And it's about us being a team
And them having just one good player
And are you going to let one good player
Beat you brothers
Something like that
I don't want to blow my load right now
But it's a really good speech
I haven't written down
Dude you know what we're at the end here
And you know what I completely forgot to bring up
That I love was the documentary
That you did on Tribe Call Quest
And there was a question that
If people didn't see it
I'm one of those people came way way late
To the game when it comes to all
Rap, hip hop
I was obviously familiar with them
And I knew a lot of their stuff
Yo MTV Rap was on
But I didn't know to the level
All of this stuff
Even if you're not a fan of that music
You'll love it
You'll love this documentary
Their music is for everybody
I call them the Rolling Stones of Hip Hop
Their music is you can't not like their music
Or the Beatles of Hip Hop
Their music is just that accessible
All ages, Tribe Call Quest
They're doing it
The name of the film is Beat Troms and Life
The Travels of a Tribe Call Quest
And everything is good, everything is smooth
I know there was a little bit of drama there
Everything is smooth
I think that was all because
They are very protective
And they understand what
The legacy of a Tribe Call Quest means to the fans
I do too, that's why I made the movie
I came at it as a fan
I love the group
I didn't know anything about them
I did a lot of stuff and respected them
That's why I made the movie
That's why I made it
It wasn't the first time
A documentary director got into it
With the subjects of a documentary
It's not going to be the last time
People freak out right before it comes out
You're like oh my god, is this going to ruin me
I understand
Burt Reynolds I heard before
Boogie Nights came out
He walked out of a screening
Maybe even fired his agent
Everybody loves it
Trust me, if somebody was filming a documentary
Of my life
You think I'd want this segment
And our celebrity ghost story
That can't make it into the fucking movie
I understood
How would you feel if somebody
Was making a doc that was beyond
Just me being the incredible
Incredible
Highly achieved actor
It became this personal thing
If they didn't want to go into it
Highly achieved actor
When it gets personal
You start to see the intimacy
You see yourself in moments that you forgot about
Because they're being filmed on screen
It's a vulnerable position
I made the movie out of love
At the end of the day
They know that
The movie has gone on
What else do you want to hype
Before we...
The only thing I want to hype is the New York Knicks
I want to hype the giants
We've got a little mid-season fumble
We've got a movie coming out
April 5th
Sandra Bullock
Bill Burr is incredible
He's funny, he's good
And a red beard
There's going to be...
Bill Burr is going to be doing his thing
It's a funny movie
I'm really psyched that you came on this
I'm glad to do it
We might have to have you on again to talk shit
When the Patriots finally beat your ass
We've got to go
We'll do a thing for the heat
It'll be after the football season
It'll be going into the playoffs
For basketball and baseball
We'll do it
I'm always a pessimist
I hate our defense
I hate our secondary for the Patriots
I think the best thing we have going for our secondary
Is our fucking running game
Because it keeps them off the goddamn field
So you know your shit
I'm going to tell you this right now
They're not wild card right?
No Broncos are going to win that division
We're going to win our second round
I just feel like
Because Belichick knows how to get into
Peyton's head
I just don't believe
In our defense
When we played the Broncos earlier this year
Peyton had only been with them for 60 days
Now he's gelling with them
And he's going to have another 120 days
He's something else
200-300 days in
He's something else
And I'm so glad that he came back
Because who would have wanted him to end
You know what I ended up realizing
That I never really hated Peyton Manning
What I really fucking hated was the disrespect
That they weren't giving Brady his fucking due
It's a long fucking argument
And at the end of it
There's no way as a football fan you can't love that guy
But I think that that defense is good enough
With Brady and Belichick he can never count us out
But that's going to be a brutal game
But what about Gronkowski?
I love Gronkowski, by the way
Yeah, I don't know, it's what he break his form
I guarantee you he'll be there
I love him
I love Gronkowski
He's good
Brady the Welker, if he caught that fucking ball
You're not wearing that giant
Did you talk about that little loop that barely
Come on, man
Listen, you lost the game
We fucking cut your throats and blood spilled twice
First time it happened
You came back, you got surgery
And then we slid him again
You left us on lights to fall
We gotta play you again
We gotta play you guys again
Alright, Michael, thank you so much for coming on, man
You're fucking awesome, I appreciate it
That was really good
I still know you
Look into my private eyes
They're watching you
They see your every move