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Episode Date: December 14, 2023

Bill rambles with Adam Driver about his new film Ferrari - directed by Michael Mann, questioning their careers, and 'pre-psychiatry' times.   Ferrari opens Christmas Day in theaters. (00:00)  - Thu...rsday Afternoon Podcast (39:34) - Thursday Throwback 12-14-23 Bill rambles about Human Cellophane, personal information, and the Dominican Republic. (01:35:11) - Anything Better Week 15 NFL Picks & Preview

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, what's going on it's Bill Burr. It's time for the Thursday afternoon just before Friday Monday morning podcast and you know whenever I'm videoing that means I have a special guest. Very special guest to the point I wore a sweater. Huh? The importance of this man. He's done everything movies, uh, television, Broadway's been nominated for like everything. Uh, you know, I'm from Star Wars and God knows if I saw him in this amazing Broadway play called Burn This. He's got a movie coming out called Ferrari with Michael man Christmas Day. Please welcome Adam Driver. Jesus Christ. Thank you. How are you? I'm good. I'm good. Sorry. We had a
Starting point is 00:00:41 little confusion before this started. I was like, when is the movie coming out? When is this podcast coming out? So first off great to see you and I am very excited About this movie because you know there has been movies about f1 and that type of stuff But this seems like it's gonna dig further. You're playing Enzo Ferrari. Mm-hmm Okay, and this isn't just gonna be, it's not like Days of Thunder meets Italian supercars.
Starting point is 00:01:09 No, no, no. If people are expecting it to just be non-stop racing, it's not that. There is racing for sure in a shot, really well, because it's a Michael Manton movie, but it's also a big competition. You fight the same girl. You're Robert DeVolves in it.
Starting point is 00:01:25 Yeah, exactly. I raised Robert DeVol in 1957. Yeah, there we go. But it's a very character driven movie, just like Michael Mans movies are. That's so. Hopefully by the time that somebody actually crashes, you care that they live or die. Well one of the few books I've read in my life, I was saying I read this. It wasn't a sports autobiography.
Starting point is 00:01:52 I read this book called The Limit. And it was this amazing story. Basically, it was a history of F1, I'm kind of like how dangerous it was in the 1950s. And I looked up most of the like some of the worst like of these crashes. And it would be literally like on straightaway. So they would just have spectators standing behind like a yellow rope.
Starting point is 00:02:15 And it's a straightaway. So they weren't expecting centrifugal force to affect it. But then they would hit each other and they would go into the crowd and like, so many people would die and like nobody got sued back then. But this book was called The Limit and was about the first American to win the F1 championship and as much as it was about the race and the danger and everything, there was this one story that kind of gave me a hint into the complexities and the drama of Enzo Ferrari,
Starting point is 00:02:43 the guy that you're playing was when Phil Hill was the name of the guy, the American driver, when he got his first car, the last driver had just died. And so they called and you up, and he couldn't believe he got the call. When he got the call in the floor pan, there was a hole like the size of a quarter in the floor pan of it.
Starting point is 00:03:02 And then it got into his car, and he just, he asked why the floor pan, why I had the hole in it. The last driver got decapitated and bled out in the car. So they just drilled a hole and they hosted out. And I love where aerodynamics was that they didn't weld it shut. And then he just, it's like, all right, dude,
Starting point is 00:03:18 you're up next. And it was just like, I mean, I feel like, you know, when I watch those World War II movies when you were in one of those, those, you know, those giant bombers and you were like in that little bubble at the bottom, I feel like that job, you know, like this is the racing version of that. So what I got excited about when I heard this movie that, that it wasn't just going to be like, you know, you know, I'm just going around a track and some weak story to surround that,
Starting point is 00:03:46 is that they're actually gonna get into this guy and it's, and so for our end, that it's Michael Mann, is, am I on the right track as far as like? Yeah, completely. I think the death rate of the Ferrari team in the late 50s, probably from 1955 to when our movie starts 1957, when something like 50%.
Starting point is 00:04:05 You know, the goal was to kind of get thrown from a car as opposed to get stuck in a car and burned to death. And they didn't have seatbelts or, you know, it wasn't because of them being absent minded. It just wasn't part of the racing culture at the time. Well, you know, aerodynamics was kind of new mid engine vehicles were something that Enzo was very adverse to, he was very much of the philosophy that the ox pulls the cart.
Starting point is 00:04:30 TV was entering F1 for the first time, so that was a completely new transition. And also, in our movie, Enzo, you know, he has this woman that he had a child with, named Lena Lardy, who we had a kid with. The son was about to be confirmed. He didn't know if he was going to be confirmed as a Lardy or a Ferrari over and over everybody in the town knew who he was, except his wife, Laura, who he ran the business with. His son, who was on his way to be an engineer died when he was about 21. So it's very much a...
Starting point is 00:05:06 He named the Denali after him? Oh, he made the Enzo after... The Enzo after all. Or the Dino, sorry. The Dino. Okay. You know, I just saw one of those recently and at this episode one of season five of Kojak.
Starting point is 00:05:19 Oh, what? No, I watched... I live in the past. I can't deal with today. Kojak, like the Kojak Kojak? Kojak Kojak. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the, whatever you, the Denali, I thought it was called Denali, I have no idea. That early 71, and it's gray too, which is a really unique color. And then of course, somebody gets shot. Next to a yellow pacer. Which I thought was interesting to have all of those cars
Starting point is 00:05:54 and then just to have that in there. But anyway, what I love about your career, other than that, you know, you're amazing what you do is like you just seem to be working with like, you work with directors that, you know, you're amazing what you do is like, you just seem to be working with like, you work with directors that are also like, I think have the same approach that you do or so. You just seem like you're always going for something great. So I always know that if I'm scrolling on Netflix or whatever,
Starting point is 00:06:19 and if I see your face, whatever it is, it's like, no, I know this guy doesn't just, you know, this isn't going to be fucking police academy six. And he's buying a house in Malibu, like that, that thing, like, hey, you know, it's about time I get paid. I'm doing con air, part nine, which I don't fucking, I don't judge anybody anymore, the way they're not fucking paying anybody. Everybody's doing commercials now.
Starting point is 00:06:44 You're one of those guys. So you get to work with Michael Man who it's amazing. I've been watching, I mean, basically been watching his movies my entire life and I thought he had way more. So before I came in here and I looked at the ones that he did, he doesn't have nearly as many movies as I thought. It's just that he just hit so many home runs. You know, like I actually like last year I went back and I watched like, thief, which I think was his first one. And obviously I saw like the heats that, you know,
Starting point is 00:07:10 you know, all of that, which, you know, the insider, last the movie, and the insider I love. Clatter, Oli, you know, that they have staying power in their time less because he makes that he's so specific. So every time you watch them, even heat, I've seen probably 200 times,
Starting point is 00:07:29 and every time I watch it, I always see something different about, okay. It's such a great detail that I never picked up on before. And it's the same with this. I don't think it's that kind of impossible to watch this once. I mean, it's very possible. But, I think-
Starting point is 00:07:43 So what's that like when you get in, you're working with somebody who's a legend like that, it's very possible. But. So what's that like when you get in with, you're with the guy, okay, you're working with somebody who's a legend like that, it's director. They obviously know what they're doing. And then he gives you a direction and you think I'd go in in a different direction. Is there anything in your head going like, well, that was Michael Mann, I can't, I can't say.
Starting point is 00:07:58 Hey, I was thinking of, you have to try it. I would say, because it might be a good idea. But then at the same time, he's also trying to figure out how to communicate with you, just like you're trying to figure out how to communicate with him, and you can't keep each other from each other. You can't keep it like, oh, I'm secretly going to do something else.
Starting point is 00:08:18 If you disagree, then you kind of have to talk about it. Have you ever tried that? Yes. I'm secretly disagreeing and then doing something. Yeah, or someone gives me a direction and I'm that? Yeah, we are secretly disagreeing and then doing something. Yeah, or someone like gives me a direction and I'm like, okay, maybe I'll just, and in the moment I don't wanna do it, so I'll just do something else,
Starting point is 00:08:30 just because it's film. So if it doesn't work, we'll just go back and do it again. Right, you know. I don't wanna get too in my head if it, the minute you start trying to think of it externally from myself, then I get totally lost. Then it's kind of like a benign rebellion, if that makes sense. It's not like I'm rebelling against,
Starting point is 00:08:48 I like watching things where I get the sense that maybe the actor will leave the frame. I don't know what, they just so long as they feel like they're breathing and the minute they get in their head, I feel like I can sense it. So if I do something and someone doesn't like it, then we'll just do it again. That's the luxury of film. Not all directors that work that way, but with Michael, I know that, you know, if he doesn't get what he wants, then we'll just keep doing it until
Starting point is 00:09:13 we, to together. Just grind you down. All right. Well, how come people don't seem to understand that a person wouldn't want to watch themselves? Because I want to say that hope, that hope, that whole bullshit is just like, why would you want to sit there? Because I have a theory that if you look, if you're looking at the side of your head while you're talking, it's like that Native American thing where they didn't want to get a picture,
Starting point is 00:09:35 it takes a piece of your soul, it's like something that you should never do that. Yeah, yeah. I mean, some people watch themselves and they benefit from it. And I've started to do that now too, where I've now I've started to watch things that I'm in just because I I realized that even when I watch it in retrospect I don't like it and I feel like I could have had the time when we were putting it together to fight for the part a little bit
Starting point is 00:09:58 Like protect your performance because usually before I'm like, okay, I did it. I absolve all responsibility It's your movie. I'm gonna go away now I like that. That's like denial. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's a way of coping I think with when it doesn't work than I don't then it's not my responsibility I mean it's not to be inspired because that's how I go through life I just keep trying marching forward. Yeah, yeah Stay it because if I slow down like the fog of what has happened in the past catches up to me So I just keep going like all right, you know, I don't I don't need to look at it
Starting point is 00:10:31 You know, I'm sure it's fine. Yeah, yeah, no matter what it is. It's gonna make me cringe I wish I was that way, but I'm not I get I get all obsessed about a detail and go over and over again And I'll drive myself crazy and everybody else around me crazy asking them to explain what the thing was as opposed to just fucking watching it. But at the same time, I also came from theater where you don't get to see what it looks like extra. You're only, you know, you're on a stage and you do it and always at the last performance is that I'm sure you feel this was stand up. I mean, maybe not.
Starting point is 00:11:02 You do it for so long and every time you do it, it's something new, and then it just gets better and better, and you become more relaxed. There's a part where you're like, oh, I need to be over here, this part of the stage, when I say that as opposed to over there, or I was tense in this part, and now I found a way to relax. And that's what I feel about film.
Starting point is 00:11:19 It's permanent. You can't go back and do it again. You're at the same time improvisational, but permanent. It's a document that lives forever. Then you make it and you made a mistake or you thought you were gonna do something that wasn't operating. It's fucking, it is traumatic when you watch it
Starting point is 00:11:35 and you're like, oh, and I can't go back and redo it. That's it. That's what it is. It's not lives forever. But in this also the other end, it's not about you and how you feel about it. It's about how the audience responds to it. So I try to absolve responsibility.
Starting point is 00:11:49 But now I think that's healthy. I think so too. Suddenly it turns into this thing where people ask me about it all the time as if it's very odd. But to me, it makes sense to not watch things if you don't want to. Yeah, not wanting to see yourself retiring, like figuring away out of this business and just being able to sit and be quiet. Like stuff like that makes sense. One thing that does as far as like, like, with like stand up, and you doing when I watched you on burn
Starting point is 00:12:17 this on Broadway, it's the same thing where it's live. Okay, and there's like no do overs. But me, I can adjust to a screw up. I can call it out. I'm breaking the fourth wall the entire time. The entire time I'm talking to the crowd. I'm not creating this world that you guys are doing. So if there's like a mistake, it's very easily handled.
Starting point is 00:12:41 Once you season and you're relaxed. So when you were doing that play, because this is what season, and you're relaxed. So when you were doing that play, because this was, oh, I've always wanted to ask some of that's acted on Broadway, what happens? What do you do? Like, if the other actor forgets their line and you see them in a panic looking at you, or you can, like, right before you're going out, you're like, what the fuck do I say? And there's this crowd there, and go.
Starting point is 00:13:01 There's your cue. Like, how do you, like, what is that night, that first night? No matter how many times you've rehearsed, there has to be that thought of, what if I forget my lines? Yeah, not so much, when I first did a play on Broadway that was that terror, that I was not gonna memorize, you know, know my lines.
Starting point is 00:13:21 But now I don't feel that way, like I feel like I know my lines, you know. But that happens all the time. Well, let's talk about the terror. So what, what, what was that light? How did, did it happen? Did it where I lost my lines? Yeah. No, no, no. I remember the first play I ever did was called, play called Mrs. Warren's profession. It's a Robert Shaw play. And I was sitting backstage and it was with Cherry Jones and Sally Hawkins. And they were acting and I had, there's the mic in my dressing room or the speaker in my dressing room.
Starting point is 00:13:47 And somebody said something that was funny. And for the first time I heard the crowd that that size laughed and I was fucking terrified. Because it was, because it's immense, you know, and very deep and I just was, I blacked out. I don't know if I was really blacked up, but I was terrified. And then I had to go out and I stumbled through it
Starting point is 00:14:06 and that was it. It wasn't, it was not a good show. Have you ever gotten mad at yourself for choosing this profession? All the time. In those moments. I do that all the time. Yeah, it's all self-induced.
Starting point is 00:14:15 No one asked me. And no one is asking for it. That's what I was always saying. I would always be sitting there, like when I was getting called on stage, horrible crowd, or like, you know, you're gonna do Letterman, and it's freezing cold, and he doesn't look into a good mood.
Starting point is 00:14:30 And I'm just like, well, I'm a fucking shy person. Why did I decide to do this? This is stupid. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, all the time. Yeah. But then when it's over, then you're like, you feel amazing for like 20 minutes.
Starting point is 00:14:41 Yeah, then that's it. I always said, the best part of getting of jobs is the first 20 minutes when I realize I'm gonna do the job. But then after that, it's just misery until it's over. Yeah, you're like, oh fuck, now I have to go do it. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it has to be great.
Starting point is 00:14:55 And it has to be something that was worth all the effort to get there. Well, I gotta tell you, when I saw you on that, like, dude, you came out in that play, burn this, it was like, you know, it was already a good play. You didn't come on, I felt for like the first 10 minutes. And when your character comes in, I think it was hammered or whatever,
Starting point is 00:15:12 it was just an erratic, crazy fucking person. And you came in and it was just like, electrophil, a whole thing, just, it just was flying after that. And I'm not, you know, I'm a comedian. So, like, I'm going to Broadway. And we have, I think we confuse cats with everything else on Broadway.
Starting point is 00:15:32 So we just think it's gonna be like, oh my God, I had a dream. Oh no. How am I gonna lie to this guy afterwards? And be like, oh yeah, that was fantastic. I got my little cat stall here. And now I want to be on the great white way. Yeah, that was that was fantastic. I got I got my little cat stall here and I Now I want to be on the great white way. I was so
Starting point is 00:15:51 like Sight like to that's only happened two times. Oh really Your play and then When I first moved to LA my neighbor across the street wrote a play and put it out up here in LA And LA theater is not known wrote a play and put it out up here in LA. LA Theater is not known to be the not our reputation. And I was in a fucking panic because it wasn't not only what I got to say that I liked it after the show.
Starting point is 00:16:14 The guy lived across the street from me. It's like, how long could I keep the lie in my face? And fortunately I went there and I loved it. And it was really hilarious. And it was really smart, really funny. And I was like gushing afterwards. I went there and I loved it and it was really hilarious and it was really smart and really funny. And I was like gushing afterwards and like most of it was my relief.
Starting point is 00:16:29 Right. That, oh my God, thank God, I not only did I like it, I actually loved it. And so I've gone to, that kind of opened me up because up until then I'd only seen like, I'd just seen like off, off, off Broadway plays. I mean, I've ever seen something my wife was in and there was somebody on stage and their job was acting out the machinery of like the industrial ages.
Starting point is 00:16:55 And I was exactly, and we're in this little black box theater. And I was just sitting there, being like, how is this fucking, what is this, like how the fuck does this lead to that? Like this seems like you're walking in the other directions and I was getting frustrated. Oh man, I got some stories. My wife did a lot of acting. I'm in one time, she did a, she'll get mad at me if I tell this story
Starting point is 00:17:20 but it's too good not to tell it. So she was doing this play and I was so was so obsessed, my wife's better actor than me and she's just fucking amazing, and she's beautiful, right? And I just wanna see her up there, and I wanna see her working, and they had her up there. In New York?
Starting point is 00:17:34 I gotta protect this story. Okay. I can't give up too many details. So they had her, all she was doing was just reading like the narration, that's what they had her doing, and then it'd be like, and then 12 days later, but blah, blah, blah, you know, she's really young or whatever.
Starting point is 00:17:48 So I was getting frustrated with that and then the fucking play. I can't, the fucking play was driving me up the wall. And I was drinking back then. So they was, it was a break. So I went out and I had a beer. And then I had another beer and then the stupid little ding-dong thing goes off and I'm just thinking like, there had another beer and then the stupid little ding dong thing goes off
Starting point is 00:18:05 And I'm just thinking like there's no fucking way I go this is bullshit like what am I supporting here supporting her them not using her talents Well, I actually did it as a fan. You're watching this me. I did it as a fan I'm not fucking gonna sit here and watch her be underused watching that other bullshit that's happening so I'll tell you after what it was about anyway, so I just decided I'm gonna stay out there and she's she's not gonna know So cool. I don't go out there and I get you know, I kind of get half calf blitzed and She I didn't know she could tell that I didn't come back and she was so fucking upset. You didn't come back I didn't come back for the second half. Oh wow. No, I just walked in in the end when it was over
Starting point is 00:18:46 and then I went, oh, yeah. Oh wow. And, you know, a couple of Sam Adams and then I was going like, great job and I could tell her energy. I was like, either she didn't like to play or she could tell, I wasn't, and I found out that, you know, she could tell that I wasn't there. And oh my God, dude, she held that over my head.
Starting point is 00:19:06 Yeah. She held that over my head until she didn't watch me on reservation dogs for like nine years, whenever the fuck that came out, like four years ago, she's still yet to watch me. I go, all right, we're even. We're even. And she goes, I know I just haven't got around to her. I go, I think it was a really cool episode. It's a great show.
Starting point is 00:19:22 And she didn't watch it. And I go, hey, I go, all right, we're even now. Right, right. When I sat out there, I got drunk because I didn't want to watch you just fucking really want to lip-seat. Not a lip-seat. What's the stage direction? Stage directions. Yeah. Right. Lip-seat. That's dot, dot, dot. How did you get the acting bug? Like it didn't, like your whole, your route is really odd. Yes. I was interested in it. Oh, no, you know what I want you to say? I would say it's old school. Because so many old school actors,
Starting point is 00:19:48 Lee Marvin and all them literally fought in wars. Yeah, yeah. Jim Hackman. Yeah. It's a lot of action back then, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it was, it was more important to create a Vietnam and it was kind of hard.
Starting point is 00:20:00 To avoid it. Well, I know something, I think that that's why those guys are so compelling because they're little guys. They're like, they all weigh like 140 pounds, but they actually, you know, they saw action, they killed people so like when Lee Marvin was like delivering lines, I think he was involved in something where like his whole platoon except for him and like a couple of the guys got like wiped out.
Starting point is 00:20:21 There's just something about that, like those guys when they were on screen. So, because you, as much as you're way younger than me and everything, you have like a throwback vibe. You don't have like, like when I talk to you, I don't feel like that, like I don't know what happened along the way, but there was, I don't know if it's just me being older, but there's just different kinds of people now. Like people are just like, I just lived, I guess, long enough
Starting point is 00:20:48 that like, I don't know, what the fuck was I watching the other night? I was watching Magnum PI, because a friend of mine was on it. And the guy's like, Magnum's like stuck in this relationship and his girlfriend's giving him shit and that's spending enough time. And I'm'm just like they never had story lines like this guy was just driving around a Ferrari bag and chicks You know and then even like the helicopter pie like the the first guy was jacked and this guy was more like, you know
Starting point is 00:21:19 He had the dad bought going on no offense to that guy But I'm just saying like this is it like who time selling or no no no no the guy played TC the original TC guy was fucking jacked and that the next guy like it was just everything was just sort of like Soft and the little everybody is like all right, you know like the the new magnum is a lot more understanding And he like he's like examining is that there was no examination And he like he's like examining and something else. There was no examination. It was like the first If you watch the first magnet, it's weird. Yeah, what we're now when you go back and watch is just like all it's all these guys is straight Right, they're all these kind of fucking hanging out doing all this manly stuff flying helicopters and surfing and shit
Starting point is 00:22:02 Yeah, there was just sort of something like it it's weird, it's like supermanly, and then maybe like really gay at the same time, where now I felt like the new Mac of this just way more, they're just like regular. It's like, oh, you saw crimes too, do you? I thought you were in fucking, you know, fucking, I don't know, HR is something. Guess I'll never be on that show.
Starting point is 00:22:28 But I haven't seen the new one, but I know what you're, I know what you're talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, even the Ferrari, our movie, it's like, it's all pre-psychology. So did you? No, analytical. Right.
Starting point is 00:22:41 About the Enzo Ferrari wasn't someone who was like, oh, let me think about how I feel about it He's instinctual and moving forward. Wasn't his thing like when a driver died He say that's terrible my condolences of family house the car. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you very like yeah Well in the movie he's he talks about a little bit He had very you know two good friends Compari and Bortzakini who are killed by cars that he made and that he made. And so he came up with the system of dealing with it, his own psychology of just building a wall.
Starting point is 00:23:10 So if anything, and being unemotional about it, and manipulating personalities to get what it is that he wanted the best out of them, but not getting so close that he would betray any kind of emotion or anything like that when they would die. I cannot wait to see this. Did you shoot this in Italy? Yes, and mode not. The town, everything, I would, like, make more sense when you see the film, but the barber where he gets a haircut is the barber where he gets his haircut. The guy who's
Starting point is 00:23:42 cutting his hair is the grandson of the guy who cut his hair. The opera house is the opera house. Everything is where the crash is at the end is the actual crash. I would say more about it, but how long are you shooting over there? Four months. Four months of like a month of pre-production. Is it annoying to have to be working that hard in a place that gorgeous with that good of food and stuff and be like, like, you did have weekends off, right? We just, we have weekends out, but it's, it's, it was like prosthetics and it's in the middle of August and in Italy and Modna, which is the hottest fucking time of the year. So you're, you're, all you're doing recovering on the weekends. My family was there.
Starting point is 00:24:20 So you're, you're just recovering because it wound up being like 17 hour days, 18 hour days, sometimes 20 hour days. Where do you go? Do you have to go somewhere mentally when you go on? Do you have like a, I don't know if this is a standup comedian thing, because like I can do my shit in real time, in an hour and 50 minutes, I am done, and I can just go chill out where like, yeah, movie,
Starting point is 00:24:43 like you have to be there. Like I always Leave my phone in the trailer because I don't I just look at like I'm going into a casino Like I don't know what time it is. I don't know what it is. I'm just here I'm doing whatever they tell me to do and then somebody just goes. Hey, it's lunchtime You're like oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, it's new totally. Yeah, yeah Wait, when you do when you travel on stand-up you have a you're saying that when you're done You just you're you're done you're shut it off, is that what you mean?
Starting point is 00:25:07 No, I'm saying that the difference between acting, like the mental strength you need as an actor versus a comedian, is like, standup, it's a joke. Like there's nobody fucking telling you what to do. You can do whatever you want to do. And if it doesn't work, you can blame the crowd. It's like this fucking amazing. That's why so many of us are assholes.
Starting point is 00:25:27 It is fucking a fuck, fuck those, fuck this state. You know, it's fucking, it just move on, right? There's really, you know, if you're not careful, there's no self-examination, like learning about yourself. But I felt like, then with acting, is that you have to be on like this team and like, you can't be like, you know what, fuck this shit, I'm out of here. If people suck, you can't do that. I mean, you can with acting, is that you have to be on like this team, and like, you can't be like, you know, I fucked this shit, I'm out of here.
Starting point is 00:25:45 If you can't do that. I mean, you can, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so you have to like go there and just know that like, all right, I guess we're doing 17 hour days on this thing. And then it's almost like doing cardio. You have to get like used to doing that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:00 And like, to me, it's very similar to the military actually. I mean, the stakes are completely different, but it's all about working within a group of people and you have a role and you have to do your role really well and you have to support all the personalities that have come in because for the sake of the movie, not necessarily you, it's the crossovers are obvious to me. How did you come in from the military?
Starting point is 00:26:27 Like you fit in with Marines and then you also fit in with actors. That's pretty wild to me. Yeah, I didn't initially with actors. I do now. I mean, it's all about, I'm sure, with the same thing with comedy, it's finding the right group of people. I don't see it with all actors. You can tell right away if an actor comes on set and it's very much about them and their
Starting point is 00:26:47 performance and what it is that they're trying to, versus an actor who comes on and they're, because it's stressful, as you know, you're fighting technology, you're fighting time, you're racing the clock and someone's videotaping the whole thing and you're never going to come back there and do it again. And if in the midst of all of that stress and stakes, they're there to kind of serve the film and the bigger picture and you as a scene partner, like those are people that you try to hold on to and other people that are there for their own thing or they're fucking checked out when that's, you know, your coverage or they're taking up time and wasting energy, then you try to get rid of those people as soon as possible.
Starting point is 00:27:26 People on their phones, I don't know how they do that. Yeah, I can't stand it. All right. Going to rage about phones. I thought that was just me. Fones on a set. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:39 Oh, I fucking can't stand phones on a set. Like we are doing this now. You know, we're here doing it now. We're never gonna come back here and do this thing again. And this is gonna live on forever. And you've left your family and your kids and your house to come here and do this. And then you have to go back and explain that this is what I was doing. Your wife has picked up the kids at school and dealing with sickness and you're calling sickness and you're calling, you know, it's like, it has to be, it'd be fucking worth it, you know. Right. I think, you know, for, I think,
Starting point is 00:28:09 you know, it's worth what you guys did is actually going to be at the movies, you know, which is something that I'm hoping like guys like you keep having, you know, you got to root for every movie at this point because I just, it's just that shared experience thing. I know it sounded like an old guy, but like, you know, I just, I had a small part in this, this sandwich thing called Leo. And we went for the premiere and it was a packed house
Starting point is 00:28:37 and it was a bunch of kids there and parents there and the writing was just amazing. And Adam of course was hysterical. He's, he's great. And just like hearing everybody laughing and then feeling like a legitimate because it was legitimately funny. He's once again nobody had to fake it.
Starting point is 00:28:52 I was like, I was walking out like, man, I fucking missed that. As opposed to just sitting there, laying in bed, scrolling and like, and I watched the first 40 minutes of this or like, I was streaming services too, like when there was a TV series. If they would just sort of like put it out,
Starting point is 00:29:10 like one episode a week like they did, then they, I feel like they could relax and not have to be like this fucking, you know, whale eating plankton, you know, coming up and just a big mouthful of content every month. It's like, why don't you fucking stretch it out and then give the writing staff a chance to catch up because I remember I did this fucking animated show. It take us a year to do it.
Starting point is 00:29:33 It'd be eight episodes, half our episodes. You could watch the whole thing in four hours and it would come out and people would binge it and people would go, oh it's great. Well, it's next one coming out. All right. Next. Yeah, it's like, it it's gonna take me like a year with all kinds of help to try to do this again.
Starting point is 00:29:50 So I just feel like there's so many great things being made and that seeing them on a big screen with the public, I still think that that's cool. And I don't like that whole, it's a great TV series. It's like a fine wine, and you're like shot-gunning it. Right.
Starting point is 00:30:06 And just to grab like another bottle, so. What do you think about the, do you think movie, like cinema's gonna just go away? Like nobody's gonna go to the movies? Yeah, I don't know, I'm pessimistic about most things, but that's, to me, that's why I like this one so much, because this is a kind of movie when I was like first discovering films as a teenager
Starting point is 00:30:26 that I always imagined that I get to do, where it's like a very character driven cinematic, you know, thing that has high stakes, it's accessible by everybody, but not so dumb down that like, you know, every plot point has to be spelled out. And, you know, it just doesn't... I like what movies tell me what
Starting point is 00:30:45 I'm supposed to be thinking yeah yeah yeah yeah this does not do that all right I gotta ask you one time we were in in New York we grabbed a bear and you would tell me that you would you would get ready to do this really cool movie with this French director I believe Lewis Carrick's yeah it was called a net yep And you were going to be playing a stand-up comedian. That's the first time I met you. Yeah. And you wanted to pick my brain. And I went and saw you at this the Patrice O'Neill benefit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You went on last and it was like a leveled flatline. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, you, it it was it was really impressive. Why is this guy on stage? No, no, the place just Get erupted that was oh I I appreciate that. I want to see that movie
Starting point is 00:31:34 Where can I because I never ended up seeing it? I am lost in the world of stand-up in watching sports I'm a big bread and circus guy. You know, whatever they want me to watch to distract me from what's going on I'm there. bread and circus guy. Like, you know, whatever they want me to watch to distract me from what's going on. I'm there. Macy Day Parade. Football on Sunday. So, did you ever end up doing stand-up trying it on those days? No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:31:55 Then the stand-up when you see the movie is very, you know, choreographed. It's not like, we talked about like Andy Kaufman and things like that. We're the comedian in this movie was very, you know, experimental and, you know, not so not joke punchline, you know, kind of thing. You know, there's like singing to the audience and they sing back. It's a very, you know, you should check out if you have time when you're out here. You got to go see this guy Brian Holtzman
Starting point is 00:32:26 Brian Holtzman Brian Holtzman that fucking guy is In his own way is doing his own Andy Kaufman thing But it's like what he's doing is like it's like come he's Beyond the comedians comedian like he's like he's like his own entity. And what I love about what he does is he knows, he has to have known that like, you know, what he's doing is not gonna make somebody like back in the day at must-see TV.
Starting point is 00:32:55 Like, oh, this could go on after Alan, right? Like he just, and everybody else, you know, to me myself included, we're playing that game. I'm like, all right, industry's here, try to work clean, talk about your family. He never did that shit and he's just one of the greatest comedians I've ever seen. I had a friend of mine, Greg Fitzsimmons, recently saw him,
Starting point is 00:33:15 and was telling me the stuff that he was talking about. You have to see that guy because what's great about him is you still get to see him, you know, he has like his fans that see him, but like the best thing is seeing somebody discover him for the first time and be like, what the fuck is this guy saying? Like I'm trying to give you an example without doing one of his jokes. Like kind of a Sam Kinesen. Yeah, you know what I would say when I look at him, you know, I see on stage, I see George C Scott, Oh, like George C Scott, wow, doing stand.
Starting point is 00:33:53 No, and he, and he looks like, and he kind of in a way almost looks like Jack Nicholson, when he played, um, um, Jimmy Hoffa. And when he had like a flat top in the mustache, the guy, he's a retired dog catcher and he used to work, it was an airplane mechanic. And he is just, he is on his own fucking thing that is so beyond anything I'm doing, or anybody else I'm telling you,
Starting point is 00:34:17 this fucking guy is, you know, I know you've already done the role or whatever, but if you just wanna go in late night at the comedy store and just watch a guy fucking blow people's minds. No, I love stuff like that. Even off Broadway plays where someone's reading stage directions for.
Starting point is 00:34:33 I love the uncomfortableness of how long can we keep this going? Yeah, I've always had a like, you know, watching people like that. There's that fascination like the balls that it takes to do it. like, you know, watching people like that, there's that fascination like the balls that it takes to do it and it's not done in like a self sabotage because there's a difference between self sabotage
Starting point is 00:34:55 and just deliberately fucking something up because you have a fear of success and actually being like, no, like this is who I am and I don't fit in with whatever the fuck that is but guess what, I don't give a shit I'm right performing because I have to do it. So I would highly recommend him. This is who I am and I don't fit in with whatever the fuck that is, but guess what? I don't give a shit. I'm not performing because I have to do it. So I would highly recommend him.
Starting point is 00:35:09 So Ferrari comes out. Christmas day, Michael, man. I mean, I, uh, see this thing, my wife wanted to go to the Lakers Celtics game. I'm like, why not go to a fucking basketball game of Christmas day and movies. It might be a different thing. So I don't know if you're supposed to promote anything else. How long does this media tour go for? How long have you been doing it? Is it like the old days where they fly
Starting point is 00:35:34 to the Canary Islands? No, no, no. I went to London and now I'm here. We did something in New York. I'm here for four days. I go back to New York for a week where I live. And then I'm done. You're doing a lot of this Zoom interviews or not?
Starting point is 00:35:46 I'm doing one later, but not only really one. This one I'm doing a lot for because, I mean, honestly, this sounds like a promotion bullshit, but I love this, and I do film, and I think it's rare, and his films in particular, I think are so rare, and you know, what you were saying up top, it's not just a weak plot with a bunch of cars. It's, you know, penalty crews in Shaolin, Woodley and Jack O'Connell and Patrick Dempsey. It's like, it's really great actors, giving great performances. And the backdrop is this really specific, well-told story that I think has legs. So I'm really proud of it actually so I my for this one
Starting point is 00:36:28 I would do kind of anything for it for people to see it because I think it's really great all right Well, I can't wait to see it. Um, go see Ferrari Michael man Adam driver. It's coming out Christmas day. Go out to the movie Get out of the house. You're gonna be sick of seeing your family members and everything There was such a thrill to have you Come in here and oh you know what I didn't ask our common denominator here the star was thing. Oh, yeah Well, you were fan before you got in it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you watch this stuff Yeah, when I met you you were about to go in to do something with it. Yeah, yeah, yeah
Starting point is 00:37:02 Yeah, so I got a lot of shit cuz I, you know, I always make fun of it. Oh. But, young, the reason why I did was because everybody loved it. You know what I mean? It's just a sec comedian thing. It was like, oh, they love this thing. I'm gonna shit all over this.
Starting point is 00:37:15 It's like doing stand up in Green Bay. You gotta go there and make fun of the Packers and you gotta make fun of the cheese heads. And if you go to a red state, you have to trash Trump. And if I'm out here, I got to make fun of Joe Biden. I mean, you just have to. Other than that, like, where is the fun?
Starting point is 00:37:31 So, anyways, dude, I'm such a huge fan. You're such a great guy. And I'm really happy for you. And I mean, to have you a Michael man and do the Enzo Ferrari story, like I can't even tell you how, I mean, I was the F1 when it was in Vegas. I went to the one in Austin, Montreal,
Starting point is 00:37:49 and then I've seen a Moto GP one time. So I'm sort of a closet gear head that can only change the oil on a car. But I'm gonna be very excited to see this. So thank you so much for coming in. Adam Driver, everybody. This has been the Thursday afternoon, just before Friday, Monday morning podcast.
Starting point is 00:38:03 Have a great weekend, and I'll talk to you soon. What's going on? How? I'm in New York City at Sunday night. 824 left in the third quarter. New England Patriots first, Houston, fucking Texans. I am in New York City to promote. Finally, the fucking, finally put down efforts for family. I know I've been talking about this I'm doing a fucking media boy. Monkey boy. Gonna be fucking going all over town and all over the fucking phone and all that shit. Talking about this wonderful new show that we have coming out. So if you guys can do something for me,
Starting point is 00:38:54 I would really appreciate by watching it to separate the Netflix there. I got it out of the way. All right. And anyways, and also thank you for everybody who watched the pie crust. I got it out of the way. All right. Um, and anyways, and also thank you for everybody who watched the, the pie crust video, huh? Oh, Billy Baker got over 600,000 hits, you know, and I learned some shit. Some people like don't use Chris go. You should use
Starting point is 00:39:18 fucking. And you know what's funny was somebody bought me, got me a thing of lard and I keep forgetting to use it. So I'm going to try that next time. And then also people said a better way to pick up the pie crust is your fucking slowly roll it over with the the rolling pin. I didn't know either one of those. But the guy who told me I've read it on some fucking website. He just goes, oh, Bill, Bill, Bill, Bill, Bill, Bill, like 20 bills. He was doing so well. He's like, dude, will you fuck? You know doing so well. Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh Kant, you know what amazes me about adults? Is that whole fucking thing that he just did?
Starting point is 00:40:05 Oh, Bill, Bill, Bill, you know what that really is? That is literally his fucking inner child. Literally going mommy, mommy, mommy, mommy. Look at me, I know how to do it better. It's like just fucking grow up. Am I being a Kant right now? I don't think I am. Oh, Jesus, I show in the fucking highlights
Starting point is 00:40:24 of the Patriots special teams So he fumbled another fucking punt gave these jerk off Texans another another chance here I'll tell you right now. I don't buy JJ Watts intensity. I just don't buy it. I think he's just hammered it up for the fucking cameras He's got a fucking skull on his face before the game even starts. You know what I mean? What are you mad at jumping jacks touching your toes? He's got a fucking skull on his face before the game even starts. You know what I mean? What are you mad at? Jumping jacks, touching your toes.
Starting point is 00:40:49 That stupid fucking commercial where that blue grass band starts spraying water in his face and then he yells at his locker and then there's nobody there. I get it. He gets up for games. You know? Give me Ray Lewis any time. I would rather have Ray Lewis screaming and yelling. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:41:07 Didn't that fucking supersized astronaut looking guy? I'm just fucking with you. He's a great player and I'm so psyched half his hand is fucking. One of his hands is wrapped up. Thank God we would have been in fucking trouble this game. Hopefully, you're not sitting there with some fucking candidate to at the canary smiling your face knowing that I'm gonna Do the rest of this podcast watching the Patriots somehow blow a 14 point lead. I know that's not gonna happen, right? Get up! You fucking cunts
Starting point is 00:41:38 Over the middle So anyways, I got here on Thursday. I've been doing some standup, um getting ready for these talk shows and shit, I got to do them doing tonight show, doing Jimmy Fallon on Tuesday and then Wednesday I'm in LA doing Conan and then I'm on fuck it, I'm officially on goddamn vacation but um had a great week, dude, had a great time being back here in New York. It is unsettlingly
Starting point is 00:42:07 Warm you only think more scary about how fucking warm it is back here is People's reaction to it They they fucking love it these East Coast people have to take it in the face Old man winter every fucking year. They you know the overwhelming old man winter every fucking year. They, you know, the overwhelming response to global warming up to this point is like, yeah! Bring it on, I'm loving this! I literally, I saw a woman in a fucking half shirt.
Starting point is 00:42:35 Not a half shirt. She had a belly show and like she was gonna be dancing behind one of them fucking chicks that can't really sing, you know, and they use the auto-tunes as they got to show their tits a little bit, you know, show their little naughty little bits a little bit of the naughty bit, right? She's walking down the street and I'm like, I was like, oh my god, I saw she was gorgeous, then I was just thinking like, dude, it's one of the fucking apples, like this is December 10th, she's walking down the street like it's April, it's April, or possibly even May. And I was, you know, so then I went on stage, I was joking about it at the stand in this fucking lady in the front row. All she could talk about,
Starting point is 00:43:14 she was just nodding and nodding and nodding and nodding. I was just going, you know, you really just whole fucking city is going to look like Venice. It's going to be underwater, right? And she was just going like, yeah, I know, but I love the weather. It's just it's over. It's fucking I, I am convinced of it. It's fucking over. People will choose the convenience right in front of their face. And they won't see the volcano fucking erupting, you know, in the distance, they don't give a fuck. If in that moment, the hand in the face is gonna fucking be more soothing that's what the fuck they gonna look at and who's getting out I don't have any
Starting point is 00:43:48 solutions and a part of the problem but at least at least this is the only thing I could say at least I have the decency to be afraid I'm not doing anything about it I'm trying to eat less fish I feel bad for the baseball what am I gonna do just me walking around being alive I'm contributing to eat less fish. I feel bad for the baseball. What am I gonna do? Just me walking around being alive. I'm contributing to this shit. Not a mention. I'm flying halfway across the country. To put more of fucking cartoon.
Starting point is 00:44:12 Get on the ball. That's a live ball. Fuck you. That's not a incomplete pass. Fuck you. Ah, you fucking bastards. Anyways, now they're saying, now they have a discussion. Now they have a discussion.
Starting point is 00:44:29 What happened? He went out clearly and incomplete. I don't know. This is going to be one of the ones who will stop. His hand motion going forward, he stopped the throwing motion and gri grip the fucking ball. These stupid fucking replays in the NFL, you know, going to the video booth. This is like, it turned all of these moments like this. This is why I hate NBA basketball. Is the timeout, the timeout, the timeout, how fucking long it takes.
Starting point is 00:45:02 By the way, congratulations to the Golden State Warriors winning 28 fucking games in a row. I don't think that I'm trying to think what that could ever be broken. I mean, that is insane. And as much as they didn't break the Lakers, their record, that was still amazing. And I wish I could actually watch the fucking double overtime game against the Celtics that looked like an instant classic Of course I was out You know telling jokes and that type of shit I'm sorry. I guess any of you guys some of you people always ask me to talk about who I just can't fucking watch it
Starting point is 00:45:39 I try I like college hoops You know I actually was gonna watch North Carolina because once again They got a great team the fucking ranked second the fucking ta heels right in I came in here But we you know my wife what we sit down and she wants she wants to watch dumb TV She goes and just sit down and watch dumb TV and set fucking Kardashian ship which has been on a goddamn loop That's shit the other day. Okay, and It was on you know, they got an episode now. It's like the fucking Simpsons, whether you just do a whole weekend of nothing
Starting point is 00:46:09 but the Simpsons, you can do that with the Kardashians now so she just kept watching them and watching them. And I literally, I had to get up and walk into the bedroom and close the door. It literally puts me in a fucking bad mood. I know that there's a clip I just saw on Facebook. Of course I'm on Facebook. I'm a white guy in my 40s. I love Facebook. As much as the youngsters hate it. Everything that they hate about it, I fucking love about it. But anyways, there's some local news show or whatever in this guy,
Starting point is 00:46:38 just he just fucking sums up. He snaps. He completely loses his composure and just says like, nobody gives a fuck about this stupid fucking family. And then these two chicks laughing, one of them agrees. And then the other like, just breathe, just breathe, like that makes it better. It's like just enough already. I my wife has it on so much I'm actually starting to understand, like the dude You know who looks like a fucking mannequin. He's got perfect hair perfect white teeth He's always walking around on a suit, but he's never at work
Starting point is 00:47:14 And I finally just sit there go what the fuck does that guy do for a living? They're like, you know, nobody really knows Nobody knows what he does, you know, walking around like a dress like Bud Fox. And then I'm like, my God, I'm getting sucked into this thing. So I just went into the other room. It's just an endless fucking pursuit that just constantly traveling. I love when they go to the Dominican Republic. And did they interact with the people?
Starting point is 00:47:41 They go right to the fucking resort. And they're sitting next to a fucking infinity pool You know what I mean? It's just like why did you want to just stay home? You already live in that climate you dumb fucks Let me tell you about the time I went to the Dominican Republic. I Went there and they took us nice. Oh, fuck fuck. Get that motherfucker. You fat fuck. That's not yours God damn that fat fuck, he landed right on it. Probably thought it was a pork shoulder. Oh great, and we get hurt, wonderful.
Starting point is 00:48:14 Ah, for fuck's sake, anyways, so I go to Dominican Republic. With the wonderful lady, I was dating at the time, I fucked that relationship up, as I did everyone until I met my lovely wife. And we stayed at a resort, right? We show up, and I got there, and within two, you see how people live in as you're driving there. And you're like, holy fuck, was my first time in a so-called third world country.
Starting point is 00:48:44 I didn't know what the fuck that means. It just always means it's a bunch of broke people. I don't know. So I fucking like... Staggering, you know, I saw a couple of nice houses and everything else was like a fucking tin shack. And we're fucking blowing by all this poverty. And you're taking it all in. It's an absolute shock when you're spoiled as fucking American. All right, now give a fuck. What your situation is in this country for the most part. You're living like a fucking king compared to this stuff, right?
Starting point is 00:49:14 So I, we end up getting to the resort and then all of a sudden everybody has only these fucking Hawaiian shirts saying, hello, ask gonna take your bags and it's like, am I supposed to forget what the fuck I just saw So the entire time I'm on this vacation What's funny about the resort is this like literally like a prison wall all the way around the whole fucking thing And you just feel it you just felt it like late at night if I get too close that wall Somebody is gonna reach over yank me over it and no one's ever gonna see me again, because that's the level of desperation down here. And um...
Starting point is 00:49:49 My favorite part, slash the scariest part of the trip was, uh... We actually went horseback riding, and we went to a cave where there was water, you went to the water, you had to go underwater, and then come up to the other side of the different cave. I know this sounds like a fucking hearty boys episode, but we actually did it. And I remember the tour guide, the tour guide who took us, I had to stop at his fucking house. So I am sitting there in the front passenger seat,
Starting point is 00:50:22 of his car, as everybody is looking at me, basically the widest mother fucker on the planet. And, uh, and I had to sit there like, are they looking at me like Jesus Christ? How often do you see a red-headed white dude down here? Well, they looking at me like a white elephant. Oh, are they looking at me like, uh, you know, God knows what our foreign policy did. And now they're in that situation. I had no fucking idea. But it was definitely, uh, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:50:50 I was glad, I was still glad I did it. I still went out and interacted. It actually gave the horseback thing and the cave shit. I actually was given money to people outside of that fucking resort. It just didn't feel right. Does that make any sense? I don't fucking know.
Starting point is 00:51:04 I'm watching the fucking game here but anyways yeah I'm talking about the Kardashians I'll let they go to all these impoverished places and they just still end up next to an infinity pool which to me is like why the fuck would you leave you're not interested because you're starving and you got food, right? Okay, she just went, mm-hmm, like 20 fucking times. She asked me when this game was going to be over because she wanted to watch dumb TV, and I was like, I wanted to be like, you know what, this is my dumb TV. This is my keeping up with the Kardashians. I watched the Patriots.
Starting point is 00:51:40 Come on, near, look at Tom Brady, doesn't he dreamy? He looks like that guy with no job on the Kardashians, doesn't he? Except he's a man. Anyway, so today in New York, I actually went to the premiere of a movie called Daddy's Home starring Mark Wahlberg and Will Farrell, and that comes out, I think, on Christmas day. And if you blink, you'll miss me. I have a small part, and I got to go there. And, uh, fuck away. I yawning my way through this whole fucking thing. I imagine I am.
Starting point is 00:52:18 Um, uh, uh, Virzy's on his way. Virzy's on his way. I think I'm going to, this is going to be a two-parter. There's going to be the first part I do today. You know who's getting who this, you know what, this podcast just became late. I was hoping I could finish this thing before Versi got here. I got media all day tomorrow and I told Paul's going to go out and go get a beer with him. I'm going to do that so Nia can watch dumb TV. I'm going to go out to a bar. I'm going to watch the rest of the game. There, I can fess. But you know what? I did make the pie crust video. I hope it helped you guys out and it's got over 600 thousand hits that fucking pie crust videos got more hits than most of my specials and this week I actually finally was able those ribs that I was
Starting point is 00:52:58 smoking I was telling you about the came out fucking delicious and what I learned was it doesn't matter, at least on the green egg, the big green egg. Like as long as you got smoked that first hour and a half, something like ribs, I'm a total fucking novice. This is the second time I ever tried it. It's the first time I ever did it successfully. The other time I had to finish them off in the oven,
Starting point is 00:53:24 which isn't necessarily bad. Oh, good. Nia just got fucking two ply toilet paper, three ply. You got the most ply toilet paper, right? Oh my god. I can't tell you who stayed here. I'm not going to tell you who stayed here, but he stayed here and he fucking loaded this
Starting point is 00:53:43 place up. It's not even one plight toilet paper it's like literally almost see through uh... i don't know what he was trying to do but all i know is i would rather wipe my ass with sandpaper there i said it alright look i understand if you're in a financially rough place, but can you put a price? You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:54:06 I might as well take a belt sander to the court. I took a crack of my ass. It's like, what are we doing here? You know, it's very easy to go steal some Kleenex out of these fucking stores, give you a ass of fighting chance. Anyways, so I found with the big green egg, what I did was I followed all the videos
Starting point is 00:54:30 basically of how to start the fire. One of the least guys, they always make these fucking videos on how to smoke something and all they talk about is their rubs and how long they leave it in there. And the most important fucking thing on the big green egg is, dude, what does your fire look like? what's the percentage? You know Those burned up fucking coals versus your your your your wood. So I did a I did like half of that Like the not the shit that's got the chemical on it before everybody gives me a rough time It's the shit that looks like how a tree looks when it's in the middle after a force fire as put out
Starting point is 00:55:04 I use that natural shit. And then I had these big blocks of hickory that I'm told it doesn't make a difference if you soak them or not. So I didn't soak those, but then I had a bunch of those, just the chips that you soak overnight. I soaked those things overnight. And I had an insane amount of smoke for the first about hour and a half of the cook. And I kept it roughly at about 250 the entire time.
Starting point is 00:55:31 And some people might think that's a little high. I don't know what they came up. So rather than doing it for four hours, I took it out at about 3.40, 3.45. They came up great. I'll post a couple of pictures of it. But one of the most exciting parts of my week was Nea tried them and came out to the kitchen and fucking high-fived me and did a little dance. It's a fuck, was it, you know what, Nea, that was the highlight, you know? Because I know, well, we only made the ribs and you actually enjoyed them. I was playing her for me. No, no, but I was trying something new. All right,
Starting point is 00:56:08 thank you. You know what? There's one of the, well, sometimes you just know when you're not supposed to talk to your wife. Right now, she's focused on something else. Or maybe I know the shit out of her earlier. I have no fucking idea. But let's get on with the project. I'm like fucking running my yap here. Let's, uh, what do we got now? I got type in the fucking password girl Jesus Christ what you know what I love how fucking difficult you have to make these fucking pot these Passwords you don't mean like you have like governmental secrets in here Oh Friday night no Saturday night you guys watch the fucking UFC. How insane with those fights? I don't know anybody's fucking name other than Connor my graga Did you see that one fight that dude was he was like this?
Starting point is 00:56:51 I You know what the fuck the call the guy he's got to have some sort of nickname He just got on this guy's back and he wouldn't get off him every time he'd like go to shake him off He'd get back on me. It's like, you know you have a like a fucking I don't know your fingers are wet and you pick up a hair and you're trying to get it off You got to wipe it on something else and then somehow it just comes back to you You know what I was like when you take out cellophane or whatever that that saran wrap shit It just starts sticking to itself and you try to fucking out. I can undo it. I can save it
Starting point is 00:57:22 I can save it. I have fucked this piece, right? That's when he was, he was like the human versionist. That's not a good nickname for fucking a fighter, is it? Human cellophane. I don't think that's too intimidating. He was just on this fucking guy, and the dude could not get him off, and he was named after, he was Gunner Nelson. If I have for a second, off and he was named after it. He was a gunner Nelson. If I have for a second, I thought he was the son of the Nelson's, who were the son of Ricky Nelson, who went to that garden party, right? To reminisce with his old friends. Remember that? I went to a garden party to reminisce with my old friends. You like Ricky Nelson, do you?
Starting point is 00:58:07 You like the simplicity of those old songs? I know. The sound of thunder in the background? That's one of my gloves. Come over here and talk to me for two seconds. Let me sing you some Ricky Nelson. Maybe this will ring a bell. Hang on one second. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:58:21 Hey, Ferzi, where you at? I'm on 47 to 7. All right, dude. I'll be downstairs in like 10 minutes. one second. Hold on. Hey, Ferzi, where you at? All right, dude, I'll be downstairs in like 10 minutes. I'm wrapping up my podcast with a first half of it, right? All right, buddy, I'll see you in a minute. Bye. All right, let me sing you a little bit of Ricky Nelson. Maybe this will Ricky Nelson is. I know who his sons are. They had long blonde hair. Do you know the songs? No, it was probably like That's not them I'm talking about his dad that dad. Oh, yeah, he was some like I
Starting point is 00:58:57 I'm walking yes indeed I'm oh yeah, very simple song listen to the rhythm of the falling rain simple song. Listen to the rhythm of the falling rain. Telling me what a fool I've been. Yeah, it's something and it's something got away again. It's something and it's something. Okay. Ray, please tell me does she love me? So why are you talking? You know what? Because this is my odd wish. Showing that I love you. I love you too. but you're torching me I want to eat my Thai food and watch my dumb TV. I love you very much. You want me to get out of here What are you gonna watch you gonna watch the car?
Starting point is 00:59:30 Dash it's Sunday night. It's a big night in reality television. I need you to leave As your question, why do I always have to get the fuck out footballs my dumb TV? How come I always have to fucking leave? You know what that's a great point. And that's why I love you. You know a few women. You know, if you fuck that, you're human beings can actually be like, you know what? That's a good goddamn point. Yes. I do. You just like get out. Oh, all right. Beat it. I beat it. Yeah, you beat it. I'm gonna wrap this up right now. I'm Paul Verzi waiting for you. Oh, oh, you're a terrible friend. Yeah, you know what? You're a terrible person. Actually, you're actually concerned about Paul Verzi. Your first concern is me
Starting point is 01:00:15 getting the fuck out of you. So you can watch old fucking chalk teeth there pretend like he has a job. I love Paul Verzi. And I know one of you waiting to be waiting around for you. Listen to the rhythm of your fucking bullshit. Acting like you care about my friends. You just want me to fucking lead this place. So you can watch those stupid twats. Nini, please tell me why you watched that show. Something, something, something with the mistletoe I get it you have a big round a stop greasing it up and putting it on the back I'm sorry all right I'll be
Starting point is 01:00:52 back maybe tomorrow and finish this fucking thing up Jesus Christ can you fucking block we don't have anybody left all right I'm gonna say that we are we're gonna fuck this game up this is is what's going to happen. They're going to come back. They're going to make it. What's it? 20 to 6? Yeah, it's going to be 20 to 20.
Starting point is 01:01:10 And we're going to have to drive down the fucking field and hopefully kick another long field. Go, Jesus Christ. The old spin move. Good Lord, He didn't even touch him. All right. I'll talk to you guys in a minute. Well, you know, it'll be two seconds, all right?
Starting point is 01:01:28 Okay. All right. Anyway, so as I was saying, as I was saying, it's still Sunday now. I just saw the Patriots fucking win. And it been 27 to 6. Okay, so I overreacted. You know, what do you want for me?
Starting point is 01:01:44 So what did I leave off? I left off with human cellophane, right? I was talking about those fights I saw the fucking guy. Let me let me back pedal with the hell was a gun or Nelson couldn't get the human cellophane off him. And then there was the guy who fought the guy who comes in like a spider and he stuck his face out and got knocked out and then he kicked him in the leg and broke his leg. That fucking guy fought Jesus Christ. I don't think I've ever seen a guy get hit that many times in the head. I thought the fight, I thought the fight was over. I didn't know. I didn't realize that the referee jumped in
Starting point is 01:02:20 because the round ended. I mean, he took the... That was like a fucking watching like a rocky fight. You know, when you watch a rocky fight going to do there's no way anybody could take that many shots to the head. You'd be dead. You'd be on your ass, though, the fight would be over. This fucking guy took it. I don't know what I'm talking. I don't have a name. And then the burking guy, that fucking...
Starting point is 01:02:42 Conor McGregor was fighting this Brazilian dude It's got this crazy scar in the sees already Brazilians. They already know he he's a fucking nightmare He's gonna take it to the ground you fucked right Wasn't not kicking people in the face to this guy even he could Kick your ass to me now. Why don't give a shit you're sitting in a chair. Oh fucking running down the sidewalk He's one of those guys, the guy can kick the shit out of you. So I'm thinking, wow man, this is gonna be a fucking unbelievable test for him.
Starting point is 01:03:10 He fucking, he just ran right at him. He bull rushed him. And Connor did the old right there, Fred Bam. Guys, there's a face plan. He took two judges decisions to the face after that, whatever they hammer fist, so what they call it took the old gavill To hit to the gavill and that was it it was fucking over and I like other guys said afterwards he goes, you know, we got a fight again. That wasn't really a fight
Starting point is 01:03:37 It's like no, well, it was a fight. You got knocked out dude You know that usually indicates that was some sort of a fight. It's like you You fucking slipped in felony. He had on a desk There was no desk in that octagon. That was a that was his left hand But Jesus Christ, man That was fucking amazing. I was actually talking to some of the guys I was watching the fight with I go How much tension is gonna be in Dana White's house over Christmas if Conor McGregor loses to after fucking what's her face lost female, female Tyson, right?
Starting point is 01:04:13 Then you're going to have Irish Tyson. If they both go down, then who you going to, who's going to fucking sell a fight? You need them the way they talk shit. How much fucking money is sitting in fucking Dana of mine that's sitting in Dana White's Sokcho right now because you got two fucking amazing athletes like that who also not a cell of fight. You know what I mean? The death other guy won. Now you got a guy who needs a fucking interpreter for me to understand it to sell the goddamn fight. So I don't even
Starting point is 01:04:46 like fucking watch your movies with subtitles. I got to fucking deal with the guy that he's got to have a you know he's hyping a fight and I look I think I'm watching a senator testifying. This fucking lawyer keeps coming over whisper in his ear. I don't want to see that right? I don't even know what I'm saying here. Anyways, I forgot to tell you guys this shit. I almost forgot this fucking story. So I've been trying to work out when I've been here two out of three days I've worked out, right?
Starting point is 01:05:14 So I go to the gym the first day, it's right down the street from my apartment. There's no fucking problems. I walk in the guy behind the counter, it's cool. There's nobody else there. No manager, just some cool guy goes, hey, by the way, it's 15 bucks, but if you go on the internet and you look this shit up and only cost you five bucks, I said, dude, I'm old, I suck at the
Starting point is 01:05:30 internet. Okay, just generally speaking, I'm not good at it. He goes, I'm just saying, you know, it's money. I'm like, I'm, I'll try to find the fucking page. And I'll come back the next day. I'll only pay five bucks. So he goes, cool. No problems. No fucking problems. I have a great workout. I fucking throw the weights around classic shit Comedian I go to the gym in the middle of the day. It's great. There's nobody fucking there Okay, couple of trophy wives on treadmills, you know fucking Looking at their Instagram as they walk fucking half a mile an hour and then you come walking in and I don't give a fuck what time of day
Starting point is 01:06:03 You walk into a gym. If you have to do chest that day, all the benches are going to be taken up. You know what I mean? Nobody's ever doing squats. You can walk into a gym Saturday. Fucking Saturday. It's like, what's with a busy, like early in the morning when people come in with a 90, what I to fucking the busiest time, right after work, six o'clock at night. Okay, you can go walk into a gym and you can just immediately just start doing squats. Nobody's ever, nobody does fucking lakes. Everybody does the bench.
Starting point is 01:06:37 So I walk into this, five people, they have three benches, this like five people working out. Three of our guys fucking bench person God damn console. I gotta sit there and pretend like I'm fucking really stretching. I'm not really stretching. I'm waiting for you to finish right So anyways, that was the first day. So the second day I go to go back and I'm like, alright, here we go, you know I'm gonna run to this guy again He's gonna say how can we didn't get the fucking thing that only makes you pay five bucks
Starting point is 01:07:05 I'm gonna be like because I suck at the internet remember I'll pay 15 I don't give a fuck right now come showing up. He's not there There's some lady there and then this fucking manager buzzing around. Hey, how long you in Todd flow? Joe's you good membership, but I said no, dude I just want to work out today goes alright fill out this form So it's name address phone number email All of this shit. So I write down a fake name and I say I'm from Alaska.
Starting point is 01:07:28 And that's it, right? So he goes, no, I'm sorry. So you got to fill out the rest of this where all the address is. Now all I had to do was just fill out a fucking fake address. But, you know, it's not how I'm wired. I got to make a point. I go, dude, I'm, I have to give you my home address.
Starting point is 01:07:43 He goes, yes, I go, dude, I'm not trying to be a jerk, but I'm I have to give you my home address he goes yes I go to I'm not trying to be a jerk but I'm not gonna give you my home address I'm gonna tell you where I live so I can work out one day at a gym and he goes well you know you have to fill it all over I go why why do you need to know where I live and he hems and haws and I just keep going why do you need to know where I live? And he hems and haws and I just keep going, why do you need to know where I live? Okay, it's $15 to work out. I have the $15. I'm going to give it to you and I'm going to work out with the gym.
Starting point is 01:08:14 Why do you need to know where I live? So finally goes, well, sir, you know, God forbid if you have some sort of incident happens and we need to get in contact with somebody. I said, so you're telling me that God forbid to use your expression. God forbid, I kill over on the elliptical. You're going to, you're not going to dial 911. You're going to go drive to my house and knock on the door and hope somebody's there. That's what you're going to do. You're not going to do that. You're going to call 911 like everybody else. And he just keeps going, well, you know, what are we going to contact? He's like, what the fuck do you care? Who to contact?
Starting point is 01:09:01 You know, I just said, look, if you can tell me why I need to put down my home address, I'll write it down. By the end, I'll give you a phone number, some of you to call if something happens to me, but don't call them. They're not a doctor. Call 911. Tell you what, yeah, that's the deal. Call 911.
Starting point is 01:09:22 And here's another, you know, if you want to let my wife know where the hell I'm going, that's it. You don't need to know where I live. So the guy finally goes, well, you have to fill it out. And I go, why? And he goes, it's protocol. And I go, exactly. You cannot logically defend why you want my home address.
Starting point is 01:09:41 You get in my home address. So the people in corporate will have that information. They can sell it to other people Right, so I go I'm not working out here, right? So I go to walk away and then the lady behind the desk. She goes have a nice day, sir I don't say anything. Keep walking to the other bitch. She goes have a nice day, sir And I turn around and I go I understand sarcasm You're not telling me to have a nice day. You're telling me to go f myself. I got in the elevator. I know a lot of you guys like, but why do you just fucking, you're
Starting point is 01:10:10 ready to fake address? That's what I fucking, you know why? Because at some point there's got to be some sort of pushback. Somebody has to fucking complain about this shit. When you walk into those places and they go to have an ID, don't ever hand them your ID. You hold it. And just say, Hey, I'll hold a wrap. You fucking face. You want to read it? Go ahead and read it. She's not typing in shit from my ID onto my, onto your fucking computer. Every time you put down my name and my address, you know, that's, you've, you've added another layer where I am vulnerable to identity theft. And I'm not going to do that just to go work out out of a fucking gym.
Starting point is 01:10:48 I'm not having a kidney transplant, you can't, I'm going to go do some fucking pull-ups. Give you all my fucking information. I don't know, you guys probably think I'm a psycho, right? I'm not, I'm right. I'm right on this one. I'm wrong about a lot of the shit. Whatever. This is stupid. Me just sitting here telling
Starting point is 01:11:05 you that I'm right. Oh really, Bill, do you agree with yourself? That's amazing. Anyways, what else do I say? I have the fucking worst goddamn stupid cab driver today. Fucking jumping this fucking thing, right? We're coming from the premiere, right? So, you know, Nea's got her fucking high heels on it. She's not a quitter, so she's keeping those on and I'm not going to make her walk with heels on. What am I, a fucking animal? Right? So we get in this cab and we fucking drive down and there's some of a bitch drives right down Fifth Avenue. Fifth Avenue during Christmas where every mouth
Starting point is 01:11:38 breath and fucking moron wants to stand there. Look at the Christmas tree and the people skating. Okay? and he drives down, then all of a sudden you can't make a right, this guy's acting like he's dumbfounded, he can't fucking believe it. And then he ends up cutting over through fucking time square. He did everything, but tried to go through the Lincoln tunnel to drive like fucking 10 blocks over. And I was sitting there, I get aggressively exhaling. It's the only way I could put it. And my wife, she's just fell asleep.
Starting point is 01:12:12 I thought, and I could do about it. She just took a nice nap. I wish I could be more like that. Alright, anyways. Let me, let's start reading. Oh, you know what? I haven't done any advertising for this week. I When I read some of these stupid fucking things. Who's kidding? What are you making attempt?
Starting point is 01:12:30 All right. Oh Jesus Christ boo boo By the way that I mentioned how much friggin money we raised for all those people we raised like over 10 grand All right, I'm gonna throw a nice fucking chunk of change in on top of that. You guys said a wonderful thing and it amazes me, man, that I did this podcast this long and I didn't realize that you could make an impact like that. So you guys were all part of a great thing and I really appreciate how much you guys all stepped up. You were very, very generous, extremely generous. You know, it's not even Christmas yet, you already did your good deed.
Starting point is 01:13:06 So now, you know, you can spike the egg nog, you can get hammered. You know, treat the people in a family like shit, right? Take them for granted. Fuck them, right? That's what they get for showing up. They knew what they were in for. How many Christmas is that they gotta spend with you
Starting point is 01:13:21 before they realize what you're gonna be doing? All right. Let's read some letters. This one might be a little short because it's already one in the morning and I've got to be on the fucking radio at 7 a.m. Oh, Jesus. Oh, Jesus. Oh, Jesus.
Starting point is 01:13:35 All right. Tool for the egg. Hey, Bill, I've been running an egg for several years now. Your podcast about no smoke on ribs had me captivated. I would suggest my tool to stir up the coals and bring bring into contact slash smoke and hardwood chip slash chunks. Kind of fucking sentences that I would suggest my tool to stir up the coals and bring into contact slash smoke and hardwood chips slash chunks
Starting point is 01:14:10 that's a fucking sent you know something i would suggest getting a sentence tool how about that they still make that hooked on phonics and way back in the day there was a classic stand-up reference uh... simply purchase a piece of three by sixteen by thirty six pieces steel from Home Depot Home Depot place and bend 90 degrees two inches from the end use this to unplug slash stir the coals from the inward vent on the bottom of the egg
Starting point is 01:14:40 Okay, I will utilize this tool during long smoking to invigorate the smoke. This also works to bring air oxygen to the fire to increase the temperature. Simply poke through several of the fire grade holes at the bottom of the egg to increase the airflow. Okay. If you have any issues, I just need a pick, just ask. The least I can do for your podcast. So why did you fucking send a picture? Now, I got a sift through a thousand fucking emails. just ask the least I can do for your podcast. So why did you fucking send a picture? Now I got a sift through a thousand fucking emails.
Starting point is 01:15:08 No, you know what I did was I layered in some charcoal that I had the chips with the chunks of hickory. And then I did another layer on top of that. And then I just put in one little fire starter square and I did it from the side. So it just slowly burned across and down. It was plenty for ribs. But like if I was ever going to do a pork shoulder, you know, you're talking, I don't know how long it depends on how big it is, but it seems on average people that
Starting point is 01:15:36 that's like six to 10 hours to God knows what. So that I don't know how I would continue to do that. But I think I would just take it off and I'd lift the great, the plate setter and I would just throw the shit in there and then put it back on. I think it would be fine. That's what I would do. You know what the reality is when I just buy a fucking smoker and be done with it.
Starting point is 01:15:57 All right, traveling with girlfriend slash fiance, Hey, Billy Bourdain, I have to disagree with your advice from last week for the guy with the sound engineering job He said he was a sound engineer in the letter you read out loud then later in your response You mentioned something about building bridges and then again on Twitter just a heads up to this guy is fucking relentless Some of you guys you fucking relentless Like reprimanding me. All right, so I fucked this fucking thing up So let me guess okay
Starting point is 01:16:28 I think if he's planning on spit I like how you think that being a sound engineer You know I fucked it up like that's not a that's not a quality job You know what I mean? What do you know what you you be working in films, right? Isn't that what that job is? Recording bands. That's a fucking great job, and it's a hard You know what I'm gonna look it up right now before I get another fucking 20 goddamn tweets and emails from you Sound engineer An audio engineer working with technical aspects of sound during the process of recording mixing and reproduction audio engineers
Starting point is 01:17:04 Often with systems record producers and musicians to help give their work to sound, they are hoping to achieve. Yeah, that's a fucking badass job that people want to do. All right. Let me get back here. So here we go. I think if he's planning on spending his life with this girl traveling and having a great time would be a make or break deal
Starting point is 01:17:25 for marriage. She said she wanted to travel a year. Suppose it's only seven months and they go to seven continents, they even go to fucking Antarctica, okay, over the course of a year. They get to bang in seven continents in a year, eat amazing food, see amazing things, and pretty much live their lives like it's a movie. You look at the negative side, which is fair, but also how often do these things happen? I hate to be the guy that didn't take that chance if it were presented. God
Starting point is 01:17:53 knows I would. Of course, it all depends on their attitudes and if they're fun, people with positive outlooks and good communication. Food for thought. Hey, dude, just because I don't agree with you doesn't mean I want the negative root. I Was given him advice from my hat, which is fucking positive. I'm saying he's got a great job That he was nervous about fucking leaving those are his words. Not mine To then and this is another thing too, dude do you're a fucking man okay if you're not making money it's not you can make a baby other than dump your jizz and somebody you need a like women can literally create life okay you
Starting point is 01:18:40 like the butter and the fucking pan I don don't know, maybe I'm old school. I feel like the man should make a fucking living. You gotta come home and you gotta make enough money that your woman and your family is fucking comfortable. And if you're doing that, you're a fucking man. All right. If you wanna go travel around the world on some woman's fucking dime and leave your career behind for a fucking year a critical goddamn year and have to start all over again
Starting point is 01:19:13 I think that's nuts I think that's fucking nuts. All right agree to disagree I can tell you this dude when I started out doing stand-up, I was doing the shit every single fucking night. Every night, I had a singular focus. What I was trying to do was a job that a lot of people would like to do. So it took a ridiculous level of commitment.
Starting point is 01:19:37 And I watched people who didn't fucking travel the world, didn't even have that fucking option. But I watched people Not work at it as hard as they could have And 20 years later I see the results of that. So that's all I'm saying with this guy to You know to put play before work. It's just not how I'm wired You know what I mean? You're making it seem like this guy, if he takes the sound engineering job, will never have the money or never have the option to do to go around and travel the
Starting point is 01:20:12 world. I don't know. I just feel like as me personally, if I was going to travel the world, it's got to be on my fucking dime. Okay, and my life has to be in a place where I can leave it for a fucking year. If I'm just getting started in a career and I'm just starting to push that fucking rock up the hill and I'm going to go fucking leave and play footsie with some chick, even she's going to be the chick I'm going to fucking marry for an entire goddamn year, then I'm going to come back and start all over again. I would be going out of my fucking mind. I have to be honest with you too, as much as I've traveled, there's always a point and it's usually anywhere between seven to 10 days into the trip where I just want to go home. I'm going
Starting point is 01:21:02 to sleep my own bed. I want to be fucking, you know, hanging out with my dog. And not to mention that, I love being a comedian. I want to do some shows. It's fun. So agree to disagree, sir. Agreed to disagree. All right, food for thought. Did you type that where in a sweater
Starting point is 01:21:23 with candles on in the background? Candles on candles lit. Okay, he said and go to Cape Carpe yourself. Carpe, I don't know what it is. Go seize yourself like Carpe Diem. Okay, go Carpe. Okay, I just can't bear to have you not get the reference and help someone write sin about it next week.
Starting point is 01:21:41 Sorry, thanks. Oh, go Carpe yourself. Oh, I thought it said go to car pay go car pay yourself car pay DM Yes, see I love how sees the day is just fuck off to your life and go travel around the world and like sees the day isn't like You know what I've made inroads in this really difficult line of work And I'm gonna stick with this dude I fucking you know something I started out with comics who did that and stayed home with their family and watched the fucking Patriots game instead of going on going to do in a hell gig I'm telling you it all fucking matters it all matters hey what would I
Starting point is 01:22:17 know what the fuck do I know you know I did it the way I did it I'm not I yeah but fucking travel in the world when somebody else is inheritance. Kind of a fucking bum of my I'm not fucking doing that. I'm following my, you know what? I'll do that if you give me a pair of fucking gold dig and pumps and a fucking walk that rock around in those old goddamn year. I'm going to travel the world. I'm fucking paying for it. I think that says something about you too. If you feel like you don't have any problem going around the fucking world and somebody else has died.
Starting point is 01:22:52 I want to earn it. All right, face of sponsorship, Billy Butterworth. Would you ever do a major sponsorship for a big brand? What are your thoughts on the following? Coke, Pepsi, Chili, Sizzle, Wilson, tennis rackets, or I guess I'm doing it right now. What I, I mean, it's more with they, and how long would it last?
Starting point is 01:23:18 I mean, I can't even get these fucking jerk off podcasts advertisers to stick with me. They're so fucking dumb. They don't realize that if I fucking around and I curse and I be a fucking idiot, you guys actually will listen to it. My philosophy is just because I'm reading advertising doesn't mean the show stops.
Starting point is 01:23:34 If the show stops and you just fast forward through it, it's so fucking simple. There's such idiots, they're like, don't say that about a product, you're gonna start believing it. Like you guys actually take anything that I say seriously Anyways, plowing ahead here girl quit job lady
Starting point is 01:23:53 This lady quit her job And travel the world All right, here we go my girl quit My girl comes home All right, here we go. My girl quit, my girl comes home. Why don't you feel like there was something else in here? Did I miss one of these things? Maybe not, all right.
Starting point is 01:24:14 My girl comes home early the other day and tells me she quit her job. I work full-time in a metal shop. Jesus Christ, we're the ablachsmith. And I go to school full-time for engineering. We also have two beautiful kids. We cannot afford our houses, our house, cars, etc. without her working. And she acts like I'm a bad guy when I say, when I get on her about it. Oh, Jesus. I don't know what I should do. I'm thinking
Starting point is 01:24:39 of leaving her because this is not the first time she's done this. And in the total seven years we've been together, she's worked about two and a half years of around 10 jobs. Wait, she has worked about two and a half years of around 10 jobs, I mean, and I'm guessing you're saying she's had 10 jobs and collectively worked two and a half years. Can't take the financial stress anymore. What's your advice? The first thing I would do, I'd downsize your life.
Starting point is 01:25:13 Just be like, all right, well look, if you're not gonna work, then we gotta do something here. That's incredibly selfish. And look, she obviously doesn't wanna work. She wants to be at home. She wants to be with the kids. So you need to make enough money to basically treat her like a third kid.
Starting point is 01:25:36 So your lifestyle is going to have to go down then. If that's what I would just sit down. If she's like, can I ask you a question? Do you want to just stay home and be with the kids? You know, and let her fucking flip out and scream and yell and all that. And just don't lose your cool. Just say to her, is that what you want? Okay?
Starting point is 01:25:57 Because I need to know that. Okay. So I don't keep thinking that we're going to be dual income and making financial decisions that way. I can already tell you right now, dude, that the fact that you're working full time and she's working full time. And if the second she fucking quits, you're fucked. You guys are living beyond your lifestyle, beyond your means. You shouldn't be living like that. So you're basically the two of you guys are spending all the money that you're making.
Starting point is 01:26:30 That's no way to live. All right. You need to be, you need to downsize your life as basically yet. I would drive, you know, use Toyota or a Honda. Those fucking things never die. I'd get one of those, I'd downsize and then, you know, I mean, I don't think you just quit on a relationship and walk out on two kids, but the stress has to be fucking brutal. And if she's being a fucking baby about it, you know, that's, you know, this is one of these fucking things that, you know, be a nice change on one of those chick shows, you know be a nice change on one of those chick shows You know a four broad sit-around fucking talking about women stuff They never talk about this type of shit because this is probably considered sexist if you brought it up
Starting point is 01:27:13 That's a hell of a fucking thing for her to be doing to you I would just you just got to lay it on the line just sit it down and just say listen. Is this what you want to do? I You just got to lay it on the line. Just sit it down and just say, listen, is this what you want to do? I need to know that because I'm not going through this again. All right. And I would just say you've had 10 jobs in the last seven years and you've worked collectively about two and a half of those seven years. Okay. collectively about two and a half of those seven years. Okay, when you quit a job like that, just quit a job and have no other job.
Starting point is 01:27:50 It puts unbelievable stress on me and it's not fair to me. Okay, so I need to know, do you not want to work? Do you just want to stay home with the kids? Because if you do, we're going gonna have to downsize our lives dramatically. If you wanna keep living like this, you need to get a job. All right, and if she flips out about that type of thing, I mean, that's a tough one. I guess I would be like, when she flipped out,
Starting point is 01:28:23 be like, all right, you know something? Screaming yell and get it out of your system. But you have 48 hours to sit down with me and discuss this like an adult and cut a plant. Okay? Or I need to make a decision. Because I'm not going to, I'm not going to live my life with this level of financial stress. Something along those lines because I'll tell you do what she's doing to you is unbelievably immature and fucking selfish. When you need dual income and you got two kids at home you just don't quit a fucking job. All right. Jesus fucking Christ. what if you did that? You know what I mean? I'm telling you this right here when that fucking guy was sitting there talking
Starting point is 01:29:12 That guy saying like oh you should fucking leave your job and go travel around the fucking planet This is why you don't do that what you're doing sir bust in your ass trying to get ahead That's what you do when you're fucking young. Okay, it makes your life a hell of a lot of fucking easier as you get older. Okay, because the older you fucking get, you got to be somewhere. You know what I mean? Like they want to hire young people, generally fucking speaking. You have to be at a certain place by a certain fucking age, generally speaking, or they're
Starting point is 01:29:44 not going to give you a shot. Okay? It's like that old fucking thing about the fucking, what was it? What was it? Those two animals. One of them was stored away food, the other one was run around like a fucking jerk off, and then the storm finally hits, and the ants fucking eaten, and then the turtles beat the hair. How the fucking story goes? hair, however the fucking story goes. I gotta tell you this, you know, I sacrificed a lot to get where I'm at and I missed out on a lot of shit, but the shit that I on the back end that I ended up getting to do, okay? You know, there was a whole bunch of stuff that I missed socially, just fun stuff, so-called regular shit that I missed because and I slept on a futon I guess I told you a zillion times till I was about
Starting point is 01:30:31 36 37 years old all right but the outside of that was I got the performance Madison Square Garden I got the fucking play drums with slash and duff and guns and roses. You know what I mean? That's fucking insane. But you got to be willing to stay on the fucking futon till you're you're pushing 40 and laying there in the loneliness of that with the fucking voices creeping in your head of doubt and you have to beat those things down as they're telling you that I did I make a horrible fucking mistake. So what you're doing sir, you're working full time and you're going to school full time for engineering. Okay. Okay, if you fucking wife no offense
Starting point is 01:31:27 Could just fucking ride it out For a couple of fucking years All right until you get your engineering degree you get on your fucking feet. This is what old school couples used to do Okay, they worked more as a fucking team because generally speaking Divorce was looked down upon and they always try to make it look like and there was all these women getting beaten and they just stayed in there like every fucking woman was getting the shit slapped out of her. All right I'm not saying there wasn't women getting fucking you know the shit kicked out of them all right but there's a lot of fucking people to just throw in the fucking towel because it's hard
Starting point is 01:32:05 and then you're gonna get with somebody else and what it's going to be fucking easy, it is hard. But this is like some shit you need to iron this out. And she needs to get her fucking head screwed on straight and realize that she's got to fucking support you by keeping up her end of the bullshit while you become an engineer. And then you move up the fucking ladder. And at some point she's going to get what I think she wants which is what she's gonna get to stay home alone. Yeah, can you come over just how many finish off this podcast? I know you don't want to. Your shoulders really just slumped.
Starting point is 01:32:37 I'll read this really quickly. I know you tired. Mia, we're all tired. Are you gonna sit there like I'm gonna scold you like a little kid? No, I'm just tired. What is it? I know it's 1.15 in the morning. All right, that's guy, his girl comes home. He's not even your wife. No, he got two kids. The girl comes home early the other day and she tells me she quit her job. I work full-time in a metal shop and I'm going to engineering school.
Starting point is 01:33:06 I'm going to school full-time for engineering. We also have two beautiful kids. We cannot afford our houses and our cars, et cetera, without her working, and she acts like I'm a bad guy when I say, when I get honor about it. I don't know why I should do. I'm thinking of leaving her, because this is not the first time she's done this.
Starting point is 01:33:19 In the total seven years we've been together, she's worked about two and a half of those years, and had about 10 different jobs. I can't take the financial stress anymore. What's your advice, Neyra Nehill? Yeah, I mean, I think you should definitely talk to her about it, and if you feel like she's not pulling her weight in your situation, then that's a problem. So yeah, it's stressful. If he's carrying the burden, they have like two kids and whatever.
Starting point is 01:33:47 I mean, is she just lying around the house all day? I mean, is she at least, you know, taking care of the kids and making sure they have lunches and all that stuff or is it just all falling on him? You know, that's really. Yeah, well, they need the money. All right, so I'm all right. So I'm working.
Starting point is 01:34:01 Okay, so I know, okay. Yeah, they both, if that's what their financial situation is, where they both need to be working, then they both need to be working. But I don't know how leaving her is going to alleviate the financial strain. But, no, he's got kids, he's fucked, and then she's gonna bleed him dry,
Starting point is 01:34:18 because she'll be pissed, I think. Yeah, I don't know, but yeah, she needs to get it together. I'm sorry, Neal. All right. I'm not going to be good if you ask me to do it. And I'm not going to be good to do it. All right, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:34:33 I'm sorry, Jesus Christ. All right. Sorry. Well, I should have known better when I asked her to show her her sleep. She just lived. She came out of the bedroom to grab something. She's going back to going to sleep.
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Starting point is 01:35:52 if the bet does lose, your bonus bets will be available once your initial wager is settled. That's right guys, $10 in bet responsibly. Have a good time and calm yourself down. Don't be like Drainmon green punching people in the face. I mean, I just got to talk about this at the beginning of the show, dude Okay, because I have no patience for this these Bobby nights these Drainmon green I used to like Drainmon green and I used to say Drainmon green. Yeah, you know, type of guy you love him on your team Dude, the guy I hate people fucking say that that means somebody's a dirty piece of shit going You know, you fucking hate the guy, but if he's on your team, you'd love him. No, I wouldn't. No, I wouldn't.
Starting point is 01:36:28 I don't like guys that go out and deliberately try and then he did that passive aggressive thing. Like he was like, whoa, like I didn't do anything. I cannot believe that he got suspended indefinitely. The amount of people in, I would say three of the four major sports never baseball. What's baseball ball? You're out there. You're fucking throwing the ball around. Nobody gives a fuck. But of the three, other three major sports, never baseball, what's baseball? Ball you're out there, you fucking throw on the ball around, nobody gives a fuck. But of the three other three major sports, like there's so many guys that should have got suspended indefinitely and just didn't fucking lunatics out there. Dude, it's a salt, at what point is it a salt?
Starting point is 01:36:57 When you're that size and you turn around and you throw a haymaker at a guy's head during a professional game, it's like, you can't do that, man. You can't do that. I just never respected those teams where it's just like, you're better than we are. So we're just gonna deliberately injure you until you're down. We're gonna beat you down to our talent level.
Starting point is 01:37:16 You do that right there. Is a microcosm of the mindset that a corporation has. You know, win it all, fucking costs, no honor, no nothing, like there's no honor in that that way of fucking winning. It's, it's, it's, it's not sports at that point. That's just that you just teaching people, like I remember a long time ago into this comedy festival, this is stupid sleazy manager. They're going like, you know, you know, fake it to you make it, you know, and on the way up, if you got to take a joke here there, hey, hey, you know what I'm saying? Why he said that?
Starting point is 01:37:47 Wow. Right after 9-11, two-poil, insult to injury. If you got a steal to get there. I mean, geez, that's like, hold on, hold on, speaking of stealing jokes, some things are happening out there in our world that are gonna come out, oh, Billy, let's get to, hey, to each is all, okay. All right, man, well, we got a lot of weird injuries this week.
Starting point is 01:38:11 This is a weird week. TJ Stroud is out, right? Jake, before we get going, when does Dremont come back from his suspended indefinitely? Dude, after season after seeing what I saw, dude, that's got to be like, I don't know, man, I don't even know if you let the guy play in the playoffs after that. Dude, that was like, you can't stand is Golden State warrior fans love the guy.
Starting point is 01:38:35 And that's to me, which is why I can't stand most fucking people. I can't stand most fucking people because they only give a fuck if shit is happening to them. And then if shit isn't happening to them, they don't give a fuck. You know what I mean? No, that was to me over the line. That was like, when I saw that, I'm just like, all right dude, this dude clearly has, dude, Mike Epps.
Starting point is 01:38:57 Shout out to Mike Epps, comedian Mike Epps, he had the Golden State Warriors in the audience of a show. And he was making fun of Curry and he's dude and he did impressions of Curry. He goes, yeah, I'm not a fucking like a little kid. Junior has mouth and he started skipping dude. It was hilarious. And then he saw Dremont Green and he just go, man, that motherfucker wants to fight dude. And he did his body and how he is. And it was so fucking funny and perfect. But Dremont Green wants that shit, and I'm glad that it caught up to him
Starting point is 01:39:27 because it's bullshit. And you know what's happening all of them? This is what I don't get is why doesn't somebody else just kick him in the balls when they're taking a shot? Why doesn't somebody else just go after them? Like these dirty guys go around, hey, these dirty guys, see? Like in hockey, it's just like all those years
Starting point is 01:39:42 of fucking guys like all finnall of them, it's just like, Ty don't fucking guys like all fin all of them. It's just like tied. Don't be finally punched him in the face, but it's just like So he should just blown out his knee and ended his fucking career Gone out there and you swung a stick at his fucking head. Everybody else go, I'll, you know, they don't catch up to him. It'll catch up to him. His guys careers or seasons are short. You've curred. How cur how about Steve current Steph Curry
Starting point is 01:40:05 call him cycle and do what the fuck are you doing? We're trying to go on a run here. You fucking lunatic go to anger management. You fucking asshole. Oh, yeah, where the fuck was that for 10 years dude they don't give a shit. I know. dial it down 20%. Still punch him in the head. Dremont, uh, Jake just said Dremont also had just returned from a five game suspension after strangling another player a few weeks ago. Yeah, man, this guy, I think he's coming to the end of his career and he's going with his strengths. Strangling?
Starting point is 01:40:36 Yeah. Yeah, the guy is psychotic. Jake, who do we got on? We got big injuries this week, don't we? We got TJ Stroud, we got a bunch of people hurt. All right, Bill, you have first picked because it is weak. I'm like, hey, you got your Yankees hat on
Starting point is 01:40:52 because it's that time of year where you guys go shopping. Bup, bup, bup, bup, bup, bup. I got my Yankee hat on because I grabbed because I'm fucking freezing down here. I'm fucking with you. TJ Stroud has a concussion on my leg. You guys haven't gone shopping in years, Paul.
Starting point is 01:41:06 You guys will lay in love for the better part of a fucking decade and doing great until this past season. Then I just got you guys. All right. At first pick of the week, I'm going with the Cincinnati Bengals minus three on the road against the Vikings. They just have an embarrassment or wretches at the quarterback position. I just think they keep rolling and I think the
Starting point is 01:41:25 Vikings do what they do this time of year. They just sort of, uh, you know, I'll be home for January. Just like the previous 60 years. That's a good pick. No Super Bowl. In Minnesota. Thank God for college hockey. Uh, old Paulie, all Thursday, Paulie was going to go Thursday tonight.
Starting point is 01:41:48 But I'm not touching that game. There's injuries in that. And you know what? It's the chargers without her, but it's the Raiders. I'm not touching tonight, but I will tell you what I'm going to touch. Oh, I'm going to touch this one. Um, I'm going to take. I'm not going to take Tommy cutlets, I know that's what you were thinking. Uh, we fucking giant fancy to relax with this kid. Um, dude, I'm gonna take, I can't believe I'm doing this. I can't believe I'm doing this. I'm gonna take the Chicago Bears as road dogs getting through. They've got a great team fence. They've let up very few points this year.
Starting point is 01:42:23 Derek, something is a place. Yeah, something is clicked with Justin Fields. I just want to see them make this run. I think that they're going to make. I'm going to take them getting three on the on the road in Cleveland. I like it. I'm going to take the Cowboys getting two in Buffalo. Oh, getting two. I don't know. I I just think they're there they're just you know Can we talk about last week by the way Paul how about you with those giants? You know I told you to stay away from it. I took the packers. I was feeling good about it You know I boy say one still fight fumbled though Your first ball at all the favor Paul. Hey man. Come on. Hey man. I'm just I'm not saying it's not a great player. I'm just saying
Starting point is 01:43:02 I'm just saying Paul Hey Paul my head gets cold too. That's all I'm not saying he's not a great player. I'm just saying. I'm just saying Paul. Hey Paul, my head gets cold too. That's all I'm saying. I just like Paul, I love saying quen barkly. The guys are fucking beast. I just love how much. Yeah. Like, you know what you said to me a few weeks ago? You know what your friend says something to you in the two weeks later? You're like, what the fuck is he talking about when you're like, Bill, you just have no idea what it feels like to be a next fan. And you're talking to a Celtic fan. But what do you do?
Starting point is 01:43:32 Yeah, you're not even... To go down to the garden, you just have no idea. I mean, it's just such a special it's such a special place. I don't even remember saying that. I was probably in. Oh, you literally, you're like a swifty with it. I'm gonna shout out to her, man, how's getting these fucking criminals back? All of these fucking criminals, fucking stealin' all, I love that that all of that's startin' to come out. How much all of these fucking corporations and show business just steal and how much money people think that we're making and Then you know what I love is then they blame me aren't well the artist shoot a blah blah blah. It's like the dude was 24
Starting point is 01:44:15 He had I'm 24 and I don't know anybody lawyer going up against their fucking billionaire team of lawyers. Yeah against their fucking billionaire team of lawyers. Yeah. I'm gonna, I don't know, I'm here in hesitation. There's a lot, man. There's a lot of, I think they let Paul start to throw. He's yet to settle into this game here. They gotta let me, they gotta unleash me like Tommy Cutlet's. Tommy Cutlet's.
Starting point is 01:44:44 I'm gonna dude, what's his name is not playing. By the way, Paul, is is there a version of the Tomahawk chalk, Tomahawk chop for Italians? Does it get you annoyed when non-Italians start going like this? The whole thing, dude, the way his agent looked, it's just getting silly, man. I got to look like he was in a fucking Halloween costume. But he looks like a sea room headliner. It's horrible. Like this is the headliner.
Starting point is 01:45:11 Hey, because I'm a towel, you know, and he does like all fucking good fellow jokes. It looks like he's headlining the off Vegas room. Like there's the Vegas room, but he's in the same casino, but like down the hall. He's in the big room in Laughland. All right, I'm going to take, I'm, I'm just looking at this man. They came off of a rough loss. Yeah, it was a rough one, okay. I'm going to take the Miami dolphins, giving eight and a half to the jets at home in my Miami, dude. They're playing a team. I know the jets think they're flying right now. I think Miami blows them out. So I'm going to go it. Who they playing? They're playing the jets. Well, I mean, yeah, I mean,
Starting point is 01:45:51 that's what the dolphins do. Dolphins fuck up bad teams. Well, Joey stats there. Going, I thought we had a good game, you know, we rush from a flared fucking up a 400 yards. That's a good game to you. All right. You lost. All right, I'm taking the Ravens minus three against the Jaguars with the hobble and zombie. Dude, how tough is that fucking guy? High ankle spraying came back the next week.
Starting point is 01:46:19 Great. This beautiful is ever Paul. Um, Paul, how much of your career would you give up to have hair like that guy again? Just for the rest of your life. Not if I had his face. You know, like, do I get to keep my face? Dude, you have face with that fucking hair would be like a troll doll. I just thought about that.
Starting point is 01:46:43 Me with you. And you think you're better looking than Trevor Lawrence? No, but he's got that. No, but he's about that. Wait a minute. Do you think you're better looking than Trevor Lawrence? No, but he's got that. No, but he's got that, um, he's got that like, like you said, he's got that zombie look. He's got that. I think it's more terminator. I think I was wrong with him.
Starting point is 01:46:58 Uh, I might have been a little jealous. Guys, his tall is a god. He's got the long flowing fucking here hair like a mermaid, you know. All right, I talk about picks that I could sleep with, right? I take the pick. I could sleep at night if I lose it. Well, nothing says that more than what I'm looking at right here with the Philadelphia Eagles.
Starting point is 01:47:18 They are minus four. They are coming off back to back losses, back huge losses losses, Paul. Huge, huge, huge fucking losses. Huge losses to the four. Nikki, the mouth breather. This is Nick. This is Nick. He's trying to wait to see what the decision on the call is. He's like this.
Starting point is 01:47:32 He's like, yeah, because mouth gets really small. Dude, yeah, talk about humble pie. I like seeing the, I like seeing the Eagles coach with that fucking dog. Watching the Eagles lose is one of the funniest things ever. I don't know why and I like seeing the I like seeing the Eagles coach with that fucking watching the Eagles lose is one of the funniest things ever I don't know why and I like the Eagles but it's just so fucking funny well I know why because the coach used to walk in the tunnel going take that friends you're not talking now shut it that's why that's why I want
Starting point is 01:47:59 something when I watch the Eagles I either want them to beat the fuck out of somebody or get their asses kicked so I get the Nikki show. Yeah, I'm going to take the Eagles minus four. It's sneaky Pete's house, but I think the Eagles need to really show because are they going to lose three in a row? Are they reeling that bad? I don't know. So that's what I got to see.
Starting point is 01:48:20 And the overall scheme of things is it important if the Eagles lose three in a row? The overall scheme of things, Paul, when you really think about what's important in life, you know, I'm bored tonight. I think I'm going to bet the fucking Thursday game. Oh, all right. Okay. So Justin Herbert is not in what I got Matt Kavanaugh, who's their backup. Here he is, Jake the snake right out time. Danny White, who they got?
Starting point is 01:48:46 His kid named Eastern stick. He's gonna stick. Ah, that name, that name fucking scares me. Sounds like a jacket and he's gonna throw darts. I can see the headlines. Pick stick. Stick it to him and he beats him. There you go. There you go. Who's the greatest quarterback? I can't even keep up It's not this guy anymore is a fault. It's not this fucking guy. Ah, it's conno, huh? I think it's still a no-conno it is. I don't know. What's the spread? It is, but there was a rumor that he might not even start and if I heard heard it correctly, it was going to be what's his face, the Pat's old back up. Tom Raimzer. Hoier.
Starting point is 01:49:29 Tom Raimzer. Hoier. It's no lack. Hoier. I think it's still going to be Ocono. It's probably going to be Ocono, but there was talk of it being Hoier, which is pretty hilarious, because there's also talk of certain players not wanting to play, because they realize that the game is gonna go away like that there's
Starting point is 01:49:46 Talk to Devonte Adams might just sit out because he was like there's nobody playing for the chargers It's not happening. Yes, I don't know. It's just red Three three. I still think they'll do it. Well, I'll have a good time I'm a good time Paul. What what about here? This is time of year Paul, you know I just I start to fade. I think I went all in four last week. Oh, Billy Flannel. You know, you look like a very Christmassy. You know, give him a tea. He's got a flat. You know, I'm dressed like, I'm dressed like that guy who was married to Rosanna or Rosanna.
Starting point is 01:50:14 John Goodman. Or my dress like Rosanna. You look like you answer the door with a hot tea in a good mood right now. What's the sediment stick? Slippers? Slippers, yeah, like dress like I'm going outside, but then I have furry slippers on. And then that's when you're just like, ooh, I don't like this guy. Ha ha ha ha ha ha. All right, so who you taking?
Starting point is 01:50:34 Who you taking to just drop my wife off? Who you taking to chargers or the raiders, did you say? I'm gonna take the raiders, Paul. Oh, oh, Billy Raiders. I don't give a fuck. I don't care, Paul. I don't care, Paul. I don't care. The book he kicks my ass every fucking year and this is this year is no different.
Starting point is 01:50:51 I finally got to within one game and I got this shit kicked out of me. I fucking zigged when I should have zagged last week. I fucking bet on the Eagles. I believed in them. I thought the 49ers were going to have a let down game and it was the exact opposite. There's two losses. Then I took the Packers. There's fucking loss and I might have covered the lines I don't know no you know what you did you walked up to the one yard line
Starting point is 01:51:11 You started calling things and then you just threw a pick No, you know what I did I fucking called the court court of back fucking sneak and I started running and I face planted like Daniel Jones How about that huh? I was a little back door fucking back into you, Andrew, did I go one in three last week or rowing four? Did you go? You went, oh, and four. Yeah. Well, I'm good for just like George Brad. I'm good for that once a year. I had mine. I got mine out of the way early. You got to get one of them. All right. I have one. It happens. But I've yet to go four. No, I've gone four and no every at least once.
Starting point is 01:51:47 It's not going to happen this year. Paul, you did the most gangster shit last year. You went all in four and then the next week you went four and oh, and that's called getting a radical. That's not gangster. That's that's the can't depend on that guy. I don't know what I'm
Starting point is 01:52:01 getting with him. Well, Billy Winston. Lose some. He's either not going to guy out or getting knocked out right when he gets in the ring. He just comes out swinging. The guy does not play defense. Hey, by the way, shut it out to Adam Driver, Penelope Cruz, Michael Mann for the incredible movie Ferrari. I went to the premiere the other night, man, it's incredible.
Starting point is 01:52:27 Dude, name a bad Michael Mann movie. That guy's the fucking best dude. Michael Mann movies are the best. Andriver, Penelope Cruz are fucking incredible. I mean, everybody is Patrick Dempsey. The cars are beautiful. And they got like this road race that they do in the end dude. It's just, it's just, it had everything, Paul. It had everything. Oh my God, I can't wait. And they shot it in Italy.
Starting point is 01:52:55 And it's Michael Mann. But by the way, came out dude, that guy still, he's like 80. He came out right? Shake and hands, still a firm hand shake. That guy's, he's got a lot left in the tank. Dude, telling you, Michael man, dude, my army vice, he, I mean, he's fucking, all right, thief. For my fourth and final, the insider.
Starting point is 01:53:20 For my fourth and final pick. I'm going to ride this out. I'm going to see if the New York football giants getting six points in New Orleans. I'm going to ride out Tommy Cutlet's. I'm going to see if they really do have a little bit of magic with the kid. Okay, I got to see it one more time because then our schedule gets tougher with the Eagles. So I'm gonna take my New York football giants going into New Orleans,
Starting point is 01:53:49 starting the game with six points and an Italian quarterback. He showed me something on Monday. I'm gonna ride with him. Well, you go. And uh. That was very anticlimactic. Well, there you go. Well, is it me or you? I think I'm done. I got the Ravens, the Cowboys, the Bengals and the Raiders. Okay. And I have the bear
Starting point is 01:54:15 on the MVP sports. We got all the jerseys. We got the Raiders, the charges, the Steelers and more. It's my favorite local read in Boston, Massachusetts ever. All right, and I just want to make sure here, Andrew, make sure I'm right here. I have the bears, right? The dolphins. I have the bears. I have the dolphins, the eagles and the giants. Correct. All right. Now it's time, Bill. I know you got a heart out here. So it's time for the All right. Now, it's time, Bill, I know you got a hard out here, so it's time for the... Oh, let the Monday night special. We're getting this one. Wow, I went some money for you.
Starting point is 01:54:51 I don't be confident. Let the Monday night special. We got smoke last week. I got to change that name. You build a song, just got sad. You go, let's just say, I'm not singing it anymore. Let the Monday night special. I'm not singing anymore.
Starting point is 01:55:03 You can only sing it after a win. That's what that's what we do. All right, we got the Eagles and the Seahawks. Eagles getting for and see. I hate this fucking game. Do you? I kind of this is the only one I kind of like. Dude, you're talking about a Super Bowl caliber team
Starting point is 01:55:20 that just lost two heartbreakers to division rivals or one division rival in another NFC East power NFC powerhouse. What do you think? You think sneaky pizza gonna stop? I don't know what to think with these guys. Are they fading? I have no idea.
Starting point is 01:55:33 And whenever you play Pete Carroll, you have no fucking idea what he's gonna pull up his sleeve. Yes, but I saw some. Anyway, you see the dolphins designed their stadium so they're always in the shade and you just stand in the sun, and it could be like a 30 degree difference. Is that true? Is that real though?
Starting point is 01:55:51 Is that like a... Nobody cares. Nobody cares, Paul. Yes, that is true. Nobody gives a fuck. Let them do that up there, and Gillette went, oh, fucking, Tommy Pretty Boy was up there.
Starting point is 01:56:04 People would be up and, oh my God, I knew it. What the fuck? Oh, God. If I see one more fucking team, fucking cheating and nothing happens, I'm never going to get over that. Paul, did you hear Edelman and Grunk making fun of the cults? I sent it to you, dude. It was the best.
Starting point is 01:56:21 Did you see it? Oh, those fucking cry, baby baby cheating pieces of shit oh dude Edelman just goes Edelman and grunk are having a great time in a podcast and Edelman goes the balls of blade is the balls notice have enough air and brock and grunk goes grunk starts bursting out lap and he goes he goes those fucking he goes those cults looked for any excuse because we fucking beat him all the time it was the best you didn't Thank God. Oh God. But Edelman just goes the ball. The ball doesn't have enough air. Don't it was the fucking stupidest thing ever. Worst. Worst. And the NFL tried to uphold it. Yeah. Well, I mean, the the owner of the losing team conducts his own
Starting point is 01:57:05 in-investigation. I know. What's all this is this is going to be on bias. Oh my God. Dude, what a ridiculous. It didn't have enough air in it. That's what he said. That's what he said.
Starting point is 01:57:21 The ball that was plus like 35. And then Aaron Rogers comes out. And Aaron Rogers goes, yeah, I like the ball with more air. I liked when it was harder. People do. It's like it's the fucking ridiculous dude. And then but the best was when the cults played him. I mean, when the Patriots played him again, that was the best. Because then you guys just fucking shit on him, dude. It was the best. That was already like 10 years into them winding. Teddy Bursky six years earlier, what's there excuse going to be this time? I love it.
Starting point is 01:57:50 There's a guy who sends an email, maybe like every three weeks to bill, and it's literally the same thing. Maybe every month, but he says all the time he goes bill, if Tom Brady hadn't destroyed his cell phone, I might believe you, but that is the act of a guilty man. And it's just like, dude, I wouldn't turn, there's nothing on cell phone. I might believe you but that is the act of a guilty man And it's just like dude. I wouldn't turn There's nothing on my phone. I have nothing to do with the balls Did it and God knows what else you fucking doing. It's like do you think they just did just not gonna scroll looking for that? They're gonna be funny Yeah, they're gonna see some shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:58:26 Yeah. Yeah. When a man scraps his phone, he could have it hidden. He could have it hidden in the folder title, Jazelle. We better take a look. Exactly. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:58:36 But you think he has something in there that says under inflated football thing, you know. Yeah, one of my things in sports was when you guys, when Bella check just fucking was blowing out team. When you guys went on that run where you were, and I hate to be insensitive here, but dude, you guys were so pissed and Bella check was so pissed about the shit talking on the team when he was winning by like three touchdowns and he was still going for it in the red zone and they go like this to him.
Starting point is 01:59:03 They go in the press conference. They go, yeah, Bill, you guys are up 21 with like four minutes left. Bell chick just goes, he goes, you know, it's three possessions, you know, it's only three touchdowns. Dude, it was the best. And then I ended up fucking us out because we started embarrassing teams. Oh, and then and then every week became we played a playoff game from like November on. Dude, that guy that was paralyzed or he got partially paralyzed in Buffalo, but then he came out walking out. He was actually able to walk and it was his big thing and they put him on the screen and you guys just beat a fucking 55. It was fucking nuts, dude. I'll be honest with you.
Starting point is 01:59:40 Dude, I loved watching you guys shit on teams. Anyway, it's over Paul. It's back to the Sullivan Stadium era. But you know what? How much do you build for that Paul? Cause I grew up like that. Yeah, but Bill, you know what? You got what would you get?
Starting point is 01:59:53 21 good years? I mean, Jesus. Giants get two and then we're bad for 11. I mean, I'm fine, dude. Believe me, I am fun. The problem I have now is giving a fuck. Well, let me ask you a question. What other team in the history of sports
Starting point is 02:00:06 has gone on a two decade run like that? In the history of sports in your time? Lakers, one on three decade run. 70s, 80s, 90s, and into the 2000s. Lakers, Lakers have won the most champ, yeah, Lakers have won the most championships since I've been alive. And they seamlessly transitioned from
Starting point is 02:00:23 when you had to build a team from the draft and maybe a big trade like with Kareem to the free agent era. And the thing about it is, is they were much, I feel like they were much better with keeping their old stars around, around the team and people wanted to be there.
Starting point is 02:00:42 And then they're just beyond like a destination city It's just everybody's Hollywood. I feel like it's hard to get out Hollywood everyone wants to fucking live out here and bang a fucking celebrity and and and do all this fucking LA shit and been in back then everybody had their own fucking rap album and stuff and That's music business was out here when that was going on. I mean it was just What the fuck did we have Paul we had clam shoulder? and stuff and that's music business was out here and that was going on. I mean, it was just what the fuck did we have Paul? We had Clam Shouter, average-looking women and, you know, winner. That's what Luke Karnaseka said. Luke Karnaseka, dude, shout out to Luke Karnaseka, the coach of the St. John's Red Store, whatever they call him now, but he said he goes do it. He goes if Blue Alcinder would have stayed in Queens He said the college basketball would have changed forever in New York basketball to change forever
Starting point is 02:01:31 But Karin went out to LA and he went on campus and he saw you see LA from Queens and that changed a lot And it was like yeah, dude. Yeah, that's you know, hey, ma He made the right move man. You guys like that 18 years in New York. You want to come back to Queens, my I think, you know, I'm going to stay. You guys want to come out here for the holidays. Yeah, yeah, it is weird though, but now, now it's kind of moved around where like,
Starting point is 02:01:58 you know, golden state became like a destination place. Miami did for a minute. I think Miami, Miami actually had stayed that way for a while. Like that's just a good organization. There's a good organization. There's beautiful women and you win in championships. I mean, that's, that's, that's where they're going to go. You know what they got to see and assign with the timber wolves? When they, no, you know, what they got to do for college kids when a team on the East Coast has a big recruit coming in, you just got to fly in a bunch of horse that are all tan.
Starting point is 02:02:29 No, we love Rutgers. You know, just fucking. So it puts some fake sand on the fucking sidewalks and shits of these good beaches out there. Yeah, dude, you can't blame a kid, dude. My son went to Miami and he saw Miami and then all of a sudden he's like, Rutgers, Newark, New Jersey or South Beach. No, no, it's a no-brainer.
Starting point is 02:02:53 Some Cuban rubbin' his balls. Wait, all right, anyway. I don't. All right, so it's minus four for the Eagles. What do you think? Or do you want to go to the other? You half to think that the Eagles are going to turn it around this week? I think so. I think big. And here's the other thing. The Seahawks three touchdowns to DK Metcalf last week, plate great and still lost a game to a team that wasn't as good as the Eagles. I think the Eagles going and put it on them. Okay. I'll go with that. goes going and put it on him. Okay, I'll go with that. Jalen hurts to throw one. I'll go with that.
Starting point is 02:03:29 Okay, so we got Eagles to win. Jalen hurts to throw one. And let's not. That's security guard to get kicked out again. Let's see over under on that. What exactly was he security for? Like the security force there. I didn't understand why there was an independent security guy.
Starting point is 02:03:44 Why the fuck did he get kicked out? The guy put his hand in his face rubbed his thing and he kind of just moved it. He did a point punch, the old point punch. It's very passive aggressive, but I mean, that's disrespectful though. A point was just, it wasn't like, you know, conclusive. It was disrespectful.
Starting point is 02:03:59 It was funny. But he had his glove on so he can't prove that it was him. There's no fingerprints. What do you think the third one should be, Bill? But he had his glove on so you can't prove that it was him. There's no fingerprints. What do you think the third one should be Bill? Should we do, uh, you got, you got Deshaun? No, not Deshaun Jackson. You got what's his name? You think the Montet, you got Devantais Smith. You got AJ Brown. You got what about DK? Metcalf. Is he he gonna get one? He got three last week. It's because he's a fucking Marvel superhero
Starting point is 02:04:28 playing football. Dude, how fast is that guy for his size? I mean, for any size. Yeah, I'll go DK, Metcalf to score one. Why not, Paul? Let's have a good time. There you go. All right, there you go.
Starting point is 02:04:43 You wanna do over and out of Paul? I swear to God, I can't hit the fucking ocean lately. So I'm not gonna want to tell you. Every time we're doing under, we won one under over by the skin of our fucking teeth. And I don't like betting for points. Paul, stop living in the past, man. All right, we're gonna do, no, it's 47 and a half.
Starting point is 02:04:58 Fuck that, I don't like that. I don't like that. It's a perfect number. It's a perfect number to fuck you right at the end. We're gonna go Eagles minus four. We're going to go Jalen Hertz to throw one. We're going to have sneaky pizza wide receiver DK Mech have to catch one. And there you go.
Starting point is 02:05:14 We're going to hit our second Monday night special this week. We'll see you over under on the amount of gum that Pete Carroll choose. That's how he keeps that jaw so fucking great jawline. And he just run. Good. Good job. Good job. There's it's oh Woo! I've never seen him scur- I've never seen him. Yeah, looks like a bird. Yeah Fucking chipmunk over there All right, there you go. Go on blow chewing gum is something I would love to say. Oh, dude. He can
Starting point is 02:05:43 Head would explode. It's a whole pack in there. Just fucking dude, he can't. That's how it would explode. It's all packed in there. Just fucking, good job, good job. He's like 80, dude. Guy does look good for 80. I'm not gonna lie. No, he's like 74, 75. Oh, is he, uh, still, still, still. Dude, he still wakes up with fucking half a stiffer.
Starting point is 02:06:00 You know, he does, you know. He's got to bang something every fucking week, just a fucking just, you know, chewing that gum like that, dude. He's on top of her. He's on top, just look. You like that, honey? His wife said, close your mouth, Pete. Close your mouth.
Starting point is 02:06:20 You know, I know like that sound. All right. This is getting disgusting. All right, everybody, those are our... Those are our... Pete gets undressed at night. What's the last thing? Does he spit out his gum first before he takes the socks off?
Starting point is 02:06:38 No, dude, he's still chewing the gum. He puts you on the gum. He's... He's got like, you know, when you buy like a whole brick of cigars, he's got a whole thing of gum right on his nightstand. Ah, this goes to bed chewing gum. Oh, fuck, dude. I'd be honest with you. I can't look at him with a straight face every time I see that. And players love him. The player goes, dude, when I saw him and he ran up and down and he runs up and down the side with the play and he's chewing his gum and he's like, I want to run through a wolf with that guy.
Starting point is 02:07:08 I'm like, really? Dude, I bet his wife makes him wear a sleep apnea mask just so she doesn't have to hear the sound of him chewing his gum. All right. Everybody. All right. Is that it? That's it, everybody.
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Starting point is 02:07:40 It's that simple. Bet responsibly, we will see you next week for week 16 already, which is so sad to say this year's flown by. And there you go. Happy holiday. On a few more Sundays. It's unbelievable. How long? It doesn't fly by anymore.
Starting point is 02:07:56 There's four more Sundays. It's a month. Dude, it's week 16. It flew. No, it's week 15. No, yeah, all right, week flew. No, it's week 15. No, no, yeah, all right. Week 15, still week 15, 16, 17, then you got 18 and then you got like another month of fucking place. It's just not going to be over till February. Yeah, but it's not enough, dude. Football's got to keep
Starting point is 02:08:17 calling man. And by the way, what the I don't think I've ever heard such sadness in your voice. What's going everything I write at home? Not doing football. Yeah, but listen, it's not, it's not long enough. I'm going to say this, dude, what the 20 year run the Patriots went on being an NFL football team is more impressive than a long days. A basketball pass. You, but I don't want to keep talking about the glory days
Starting point is 02:08:39 of the Patriots. It happened. It was fucking awesome. And it's over. And right now, God damn it. We're a three and fucking 31 tape. However many weeks there are this year. We're three and 12, three and uh, three and uh,
Starting point is 02:08:51 three and fucking 11. Dude, you get a good draft pick, you're back in two years. What are you worried about, dude? It's a fucking historic franchise, you guys did it. You got over the mountain. I'm worried about those kill switches on cars that they're gonna have in 2026. What's that?
Starting point is 02:09:06 Don't just be able to shut your fucking car off. If it's electric. No. You can't do it on it. You're not going to be able to do it on a gas engine. How? What do you mean how? How can I be an engine man?
Starting point is 02:09:19 This computer's in all cars. You can shut a car for a moment. They've done that. Guys have done that. You just take a core form rag. they put it right over the intake manifold. Jump on the hood. They jump on the hood. I don't agree. Dude that's that's ridiculous man. Are you serious? Yeah. Oh we should I want to do something on the show. I only met this dude once, but we lost a comedian, a comedian passed away untimely. It's just a horrible untimely passing of Kenny DeForest, who was a comedian in New York
Starting point is 02:09:55 and he passed, he passed tragically. And so shout out to him. I met him once. He ran a show in Brooklyn that everybody loved and he was a really really good dude So rest in peace to him and thoughts and prayers with his family. It's brutal And a very very funny watch his clips Kenny DeForest really really funny He's got a clip about Anxiety and he goes through the emotions of like what it is during a during like a feeling of it and I like that bit that he did about
Starting point is 02:10:22 that he did about when he was playing and he went up against that kid that that white kid that that you and see ended up getting for four years. And they they wanted to play one-on-one with them. They wanted him to go one-on-one with them because the other
Starting point is 02:10:38 team also had good outside shooters. And he didn't see that. I didn't see that. I didn't see him up here. I went like 12 for 12 for four from the line at 35 points. Oh, dude. Yeah, I didn't listen to it. I'm not glad you like I didn't hear I didn't know about him until I heard about the accident. Then I watched like his clips and he seemed like
Starting point is 02:10:58 he was going to be a he was already a really good comedian, but he seemed like he was going to be like a really, you know, a force to be reckoned with, man. Yeah, dude, and be careful. Okay, makes no sense. Make no sense. Be careful out there riding those things, because man, I swear to God, dude, driving in the city right now, it's a wild west. They don't care.
Starting point is 02:11:16 They're cutting people off more. There's more people. There's bikes everywhere. There's bike lanes. You open your door. Somebody wants to almost fly into here. Just be careful out there, man. It's a horrible, horrible thing. And yeah. So anyway, stay in your car and get off your phone.
Starting point is 02:11:30 Yeah, dude. And then that other thing that the 49ers did with the, and the jets did, where like distracted driving deaths and somebody on the jets organization years, like in the family was there and they were like running up the, you know, stands forum and stuff like that because that's a statistic where there's literally a people get killed yearly because somebody is literally looking at their phone and they're killing people and it's fucking ridiculous, man. It's, I think it's worse, I mean, not, it's not, I shouldn't say that. I almost said,
Starting point is 02:11:58 I almost said it's worse than drunk driving. It's not, but it's as bad, I should say. That's what I'm saying, it's as impaired. All right, that's the end of our public service announcements here. No, I got another one, dude. So, breast aware, and I'm kidding, imagine we just went through. All right, guys, thank you guys so much. We'll see you next week, week 16, enjoy football and bet response. I'm doing the point, Paul.
Starting point is 02:12:21 Getting to that age, the old man. point Paul, getting to that age, the old man.

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