Moonshots with Peter Diamandis - Don’t Fall Behind in the AI and Tech Revolution | Exponential Organizations 2.0 | EP #64

Episode Date: September 14, 2023

In this episode, Peter and Salim discuss the potential of small teams, suggesting that the next billion-dollar company could be a handful of individuals harnessing the power of AI, creating your Massi...ve Transformative Purpose, and the truth about Exponential Organizations. Salim Ismail is a sought-after strategist and a renowned technology entrepreneur who built and sold his company to Google. He’s been featured in the most prominent publications such as NYT, Forbes, Fortune, and Bloomberg and has led lectures at the world’s greatest companies and about the future of Tech. Currently, he’s the founder and chairman of ExO Works and OpenExO. My new book with Salim Ismail, Exponential Organizations 2.0: The New Playbook for 10x Growth and Impact, is now available on Amazon: https://bit.ly/3P3j54J _____________ Get started with Fountain Life and become the CEO of your health: https://fountainlife.com/peter/ Get my new Longevity Practices book for free: https://www.diamandis.com/longevity  _____________ I send weekly emails with the latest insights and trends on today’s and tomorrow’s exponential technologies. Stay ahead of the curve, and sign up now: Tech Blog _____________ Connect With Peter: Twitter Instagram Youtube Moonshots and Mindsets Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:00 This is the best time in the history of the world to be an entrepreneur. Let's talk about what it takes to build an EXO. We have a 12-step program. It had to be 12-step. It had to be 12-step. You want to hark back to kind of things that work. Oh, by the way, just as a thing, we have behind us a wonderful rocket. I call this the Spinal Tap Rocket. If you've seen the movie Spinal Tap, they tried to build a huge set and they put the wrong feet versus inches and they ended up with it. So I call this the Spinal Tap rocket. By the way, for those who've never seen the movie, if you go into a Tesla and turn the volume knob full up, the volume knob goes to 11. And you can go find out why that's the case. It's kind of amazing.
Starting point is 00:01:45 All right. Back to how do you build an EXO. All right. So let's go through some of these steps. And Peter, jump in. Yeah, we'll go back and forth on this. Step one and most important is what is your MTP? Hopefully you've heard this over and over again enough that it sunk in.
Starting point is 00:02:00 We will beat this into you because it's been beaten into us. You have to select what fundamental problem you want to solve. That's step one. And you use the Moonshot Planner tool that Peter mentioned. Use your own devices. We have an MTP tool ourselves. Ask your friends, when I was younger, what did I say, what I wanted to do? What fundamental problem do you want to solve? By the way, once you have your MTP, I want you to challenge yourself at a cocktail party to share it out loud. Don't be embarrassed by it. Like, you know, my massive transformative purpose is, and what the hell is an MTP? Well, you explain it. And by the way, when you go outward facing with your MTP, it brings people
Starting point is 00:02:41 to you. You'll be amazed. Oh, you've got to meet this person over here I've got a friend you've got to be connected with it's a magnet to bring Partners community to you. You know when I say the cocktail party, I want to transform civilization It doesn't it doesn't really work. So I think I got to think about that. Alright, so number one, you've got your MTP Okay, number two critical Join or create communities around that MTP. So if your MTP is cure cancer, okay, you can either create community around that because there's lots of people interested in that or go to platforms like meetup or others that have 1000s of user groups and existing communities
Starting point is 00:03:17 that you can join, why you want to find like minded people, you want to share that MTP, you want to build a community or connect with your MTP to the largest group of people possible around you. So build and connect or just join communities that reflect your values and your MTP. The worst thing you want to do is have a team split because we have different purposes. MTP is like pulling a string, it unifies, it pulls you together. That's right. So composing a team around that based on your MTP is fundamental. By the way, in the future, I think we'll be hiring based on the alignment of an
Starting point is 00:04:00 individual's MTP with the company's MTP. Because if there's not alignment on that, there's no point really working together on things, right? So that's going to be a kind of a prediction for the future. All right. Step three is put the team together. And here we recommend four roles, a CEO founder type visionary, a product person, a builder and a business model finance person. Okay. And lots of startup, a theory has around what composition should be. You and I have been talking about the idea from Jeremiah O. Yang and a few others that the next billion-dollar company will be three people leveraging open AI
Starting point is 00:04:39 and some of the other LLMs out there where the CEO takes care of vision and marketing. other LLMs out there where the CEO takes care of vision and marketing. The product guy is building, using LLMs to build the product. And the operations guy is making sure all the AI chatbots are operating. And we think that will be the next billion dollar company. Step four is your breakthrough idea. And notice here that it's step four and it's not step one, right? When you've got your massive transformative purpose, which is going to last you a decade or two, now you're going to find out what technologies, what business model is going to be in service of transforming that. Because if you start with a technology, that technology may not last very long.
Starting point is 00:05:30 It may be obsoleted at the rate we're going in a year or two. What really keeps this all focused, train on the tracks, is in fact that MTP. Once you have the basic idea, right, now you need to kind of start putting flesh to that raw idea. So you have a, fill out a Lean Startup Business Model Canvas coming from Alex Osterwalder or the EXO Canvas, which was developed by our community. You can find it at exocanvas.com.
Starting point is 00:05:55 If you fill those two out, basically it talks you through how to think about partners, channels, customers, vendors, value proposition, et cetera, et cetera. So you fully thought
Starting point is 00:06:04 through the idea before you start building anything. Please don't build anything until you've filled out these canvases to get a rough sense because it'll tease out any mistakes you make and you want to go as long as possible without building things. I remember when I was building Angstro, which we did, my co-founder Rohit instantly wanted to go talk to 100 people about it. I'm like, wait, no, you'll give away the idea. He's like, no, no, I want free feedback on the idea from 100 people.
Starting point is 00:06:29 I get free feedback. Can I stress that an idea is the easy part? I remember a conversation with Elon who said, when you look at the relative value of the idea to implementation, the value of the idea rounds to zero. It's all about implementation, manufacturability, and implementation. Again, I made the same mistake early on, just not wanting, keeping the idea close, but you lose.
Starting point is 00:06:59 It's a lose, lose, lose when you don't share the idea because you don't find out all the ways it's failed, all the people that can help you. Believe me, if you're the right person to make it happen, you're driven by the MTP. The idea is just the very first incremental step. Right. So now you have your idea and you've built your business model canvas and EXO canvas, et cetera. The next step is to find a business model.
Starting point is 00:07:23 My favorite part is finding the business model. I am the most excited, more excited about business model innovation than I am around the technologies. I hate the business model part. Really? Yeah, I struggle with this a huge amount. We've been struggling for years in EXO to find different testing different business models etc. etc. and I'm just like, god dang, can't we just go solve all the problems? We should talk about it. We'll talk more. Maybe I could use some advice from that. Let me talk through the business model side, right? Because there's a really big inflection point that's happened around building a business and
Starting point is 00:07:55 finding a business model. Chris Anderson, who's the editor of Wired Magazine and created the DIY drones community, and he invented the long tail idea, etc. I wrote this book a few years ago called Free, arguing that as we make information more widely available, every business model goes to free. And then you have a bunch of layers on top of that free information. It's like demonetization. It's demonetization, and you have an advertising business model or a subscription model or something.
Starting point is 00:08:22 Let's use the example of music. We used to have eight major music studios selling scarcity, selling you the physical cassette, the CD, the DVD, selling scarcity as their business model. Then we digitize music, right? All of those eight pretty much disappear. And now you have two platforms, iTunes and Spotify, selling you abundance on a subscription model, right? So that we saw in the music industry, we've seen the same thing in books and in news. We'll see the same thing in transportation and healthcare and education is going to happen. So he basically argued that most business models will go to free. And it was a very seminal book around at the time. Kevin Kelly,
Starting point is 00:09:01 who we talked about already, wrote a response to this saying, better than free would be one of the business models around this. And he wrote a blog post called Better Than Free. Everything that Kevin Kelly writes is amazing, but please go read this blog post. It's seminal if you want to build an EXO. What he does, he identifies if the base information is basically widely available, like digital health information or so on, there's about one of eight ways in which to add value to that.
Starting point is 00:09:29 So if you look at this list, Airbnb is giving you accessibility. Uber is giving you findability. Facebook is giving you personalization. Financial markets often sell immediacy, et cetera. And if you have an information-based industry you're using one or more of these and we think what kevin's identified here are the business models of a digital world and we think more and more 21st century business models will focus on this aspect of this so critical to go check this out now just on a slight segue kevin talks also about they wrote a book
Starting point is 00:10:02 called what technology wants yes right basically saying saying the pace of technology is inexorable now, past our human ability to limit it, which is an AI conversation that we can have at some other point. Technology wants to be free. Technology wants to be free. And it wants to be abundant, even though human nature is like keep everything scarce and try and limit things. So now you have a business model. You've got some sense of what it looks like. Let's go to the next few steps of building an EXO. Once you have the business model, the next step is to build the MVP.
Starting point is 00:10:36 And this is, again, coming from lean startup thinking. And it's really, really critical. What's the smallest feature footprint of a product to give you to get it out there and launch and test with customers hopefully this is second nature and it's obvious to you but building an MVP again this is about building a data-driven company right we think we know what the customers want but we don't actually as Steve Blank, no business plan survives contact with the first customer, right? Because you think you have a sense, but when you get out there, I remember
Starting point is 00:11:09 Reid Hoffman saying it a different way. If you're not embarrassed by your product when you launch it, you've waited too long. Yes. Why? Because if you wait till it's perfect, you're going to get it wrong and you're going to make assumptions that you haven't validated. So the minimum, I remember when I was running Brickhouse, Yahoo's incubator, we had Katarina Fick, the founder of Flickr, come in and talk to the engineers. And she said, talk to a team. They go, she goes, what's so great about your product? And they go, we have 20 features in this product. It's going to be beautiful, et cetera.
Starting point is 00:11:40 And she said, all right, build a two that you think are going to identify the two features out of the 20 that you think are going to make it work and make it succeed. Launch those two and then get a feedback loop going. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Asher Teller talks about very similar. He says, you know, when you look at all the things you have to do in a company, instead of ordering them the way of a priority that you might have, reprioritize them in order of which
Starting point is 00:12:06 ones are going to teach you the most and do those first, right? It's constant learning in this regard. Constant testing. And the eighth step here is validate marketing and sales. Again, this is part of your MVP. How are you going to market it? How are you going to sell it? How are you going to price it? Are you marketing it direct, are you going through channels, through partnerships, all of this is fundamental to get to scale. And validating marketing sales and managing your funnel, right? How many people do you have interested in the product? How many have signed up for the free thing? How many people might sign up for a paid model? What's your churn, etc., etc. And so there's a whole now very well understood scientific, very clear metric process on how to manage your funnel, okay? Like if you
Starting point is 00:12:53 have, if you're in enterprise sales, which takes like nine months to do an enterprise sale, then you better have a big funnel and figure out, you get a lot of stuff in the front because only a few are going to drop at the bottom and keep you viable. So getting your funnel right and managing the sales funnel is absolutely critical in this piece of this. So now you have at this point, you should have what's called product market fit, which is you have a product that people are paying for and with feedback from customers that they're excited about your product. If you don't have both those things, you don't have product market fit, go back to MVP or go back another step or figure out another breakthrough idea.
Starting point is 00:13:32 Everyone listening is probably saying that's great if you're a startup, but what if you're running a company that's got 50,000 employees and you've got, you know, how are you still building an MVP? You're still building an MVP because the only way you know that something's going to work today is by getting it out there and iterating.
Starting point is 00:13:49 Okay. And big companies are very, very bad at this because they're trying to get it perfect before you launch it. People want to wait till it's perfect, et cetera. It never happens this way. Look at the biggest companies in the world and they've all been iterating very, very well. Amazon is famous for constantly iterating. They had no idea whether Amazon Prime would work, right? You've
Starting point is 00:14:09 got a bit of experience. Tell the Amazon Prime story. It's so fascinating to see the mentality and psychology there. Yeah. Jeff Holden, who is the VP of product, both at, the chief product officer of both at Amazon and Uber, who's on my board at XPRIZE, tells the story, you know, when Amazon Prime was first proposed as an experiment, it was considered a foolish idea. You know, Bezos basically said, try it. And now it's, you know, what percentage of Amazon's? Amazon Prime is a, like, I think it's 20, no, it's 25%.
Starting point is 00:14:43 The killer one is Amazon amazon um web services yeah right and this is now again and again another example by the way i want to give a shout out to an amazon policy that i completely love if you have a big company i dare you go home and go to the office tomorrow and implement this policy they realize that in any company it's really easy to say no to an idea one of 20 people can say no to an idea. One of 20 people can say no, kills the idea. Whereas if you're a startup, you can go to 20 investors. One says yes, you're off to the races. So how do you deal with that impedance mismatch in a big company? So they came up with a policy and it's called the Amazon Institutional Yes. So if you're inside
Starting point is 00:15:21 Amazon and you come to me with an idea and I'm your manager, I'm not allowed to say no to your idea. My default answer has to be yes. And if I need to say, if I want to say no, I have to write a two page thesis as to why it's a bad idea and post it publicly on the intranet, right? So they've created friction and embarrassment to saying no. It's way easier for me to go, ah, just go do your idea. idea I'm sure you're gonna fail at the next level Etc and now the product gets tested and at least now you have real data One of the results of this policy was actually Amazon Web Services nothing to do with their core strategy not on any roadmap Nobody could figure out how to say no to it
Starting point is 00:15:58 And that's one of the most successful products of all time and delivers 75% amazon's pro profits globally it's just unbelievable everybody peter d amandas here uh i've been asked over and over again what do i do for my own health well i put it down in this book called peter's longevity practices uh it's very readable in just an hour in the book i cover longevity diet exercise sleep my annual found upload meds and supplements longevity mindset it's literally consumable in just an hour's time hopefully to incentivize you to make a difference in your life to intercept the technologies coming our way if you want this it's free just check out the link below and download it right now another example is Kickstarter right hopefully
Starting point is 00:16:42 you've all heard of Kickstarter, played with Kickstarter. You know, it was thought of as a platform for young companies to try their product out and get commitments early on. What we're seeing is large corporations actually trying things on Kickstarter as well to get early information about who wants what color, who wants what different product elements. My fellow Waterloo grad, Eric Medjikovsky, different product elements. My fellow Waterloo grad, Eric Mijakovsky, Pebble Watch. He went to, this is a great little story, he came out of Y Combinator, right? Best incubator in the world with the best network in the world, trying to raise $100,000 to build a prototype of his running watch. All the investors said no, because Silicon Valley is very biased against hardware at the time. So now he's got three weeks of cash left, right?
Starting point is 00:17:26 He's like about to run out of money. So he puts up a Project on Kickstarter desperately saying can I raise $100,000? Can I pre sell my watch? Raises 10 million dollars on Kickstarter, right? Now that tells you two or three really interesting things one All the investors are wrong, which is fine. This is why investors use a portfolio approach. More importantly, if you have crowdfunding, why do you need the investor? And now the sophisticated investment ecosystem around Silicon Valley is rendered irrelevant, in a sense, because I can crowdfund something. But third, and maybe most importantly to the point you're making, for the first time in business history, you can validate demand for a product without building the product yeah right throughout history had to like build a product and go do you like it or not customer goes i know eric has a new problem he's got to build a lot more watches
Starting point is 00:18:15 he's off to china on the next flight that's the that's the that but that's a great problem to have i've got 10 million dollars in the bank now i've got to go do this. So, by the way, Sony Corporation is now launching anonymous Kickstarter campaigns and then funding the successful ones because it's just an easy way to validate success. So, really critical. Data-driven decision-making. It's not listening to the experts who tell you what they think. Yeah. So, constantly run experiments. Validate your marketing sales.
Starting point is 00:18:43 Okay? Yeah, so constantly run experiments, validate your marketing sales. Okay. Step nine, once you've got a funnel out there and so on, is to now implement the EXO attributes of scale and ideas. Do as much staff on demand, community and crowd. Implement algorithms, leverage assets. Figure out engagement models for your product. And then all the internal mechanisms. What's the inner, how are you going to, what interfaces do, where do you want to automate the interfaces between you and the customer?
Starting point is 00:19:07 What dashboards are you running? How are you doing experimentation and what experiments are you running? How do you decentralize decision making and what social technologies are you using? Now to be clear, it's not implementing all 10. It? And it's you might actually begin with a couple of these and then move towards others as part of your plan That used to be the case Okay So in the first book we our research indicated if you implemented for these then you got became an EXO But I think today the market basically says the data now shows that if you're not implementing all of these somebody else's Right. And so the more you
Starting point is 00:19:46 implement these the better and the faster you can implement dashboards for example the faster you've got a real-time sense of what's happening with the business the more you can implement experimentation the more you're implementing a learning organization and if you have these there's no excuse not to be implementing them they're just the fundamental best practices as an entrepreneur today yeah now really critically I'll give you a great example. There's a company in Australia called Smart Group. And what they do is every quarter, they pick, they get 10 people, each of them picks one of the scale or ideas attributes, and they implement that attribute. So they have 10 projects going on on a nonstop basis, implementing scale and ideas. They grew 5x over a two-year period by doing this.
Starting point is 00:20:27 They were already a public company, by the way. So this is not a small company. They were already a public company, and then they grew 5x by applying the full scale and ideas methodology. Our 10th step is to implement and establish a culture. But I would say a culture begins from the very beginning. And it's, you know, what happens when the CEO is not watching. It's the interactions between your employee base, between your founders. And again, it starts with that MTP. It starts with the original
Starting point is 00:20:58 founders. And that culture is going to drive everything. Elements of the culture I really personally always want to be driving, it's data-driven experimentalism, fundamentals there. Yeah. Now, we found over the years that having an EXO structure takes out a lot of politics, right? As we said in the implication, most traditional companies, almost all the conversations about what's happening on the inside that person's product didn't work did they get budget for that thing why is that guy trying to steal my team members and within the XO
Starting point is 00:21:32 most of the conversation about what's on the outside are we solving the fundamental problem or not etc so that critical invite we found that by implementing more and with or the attributes, the culture stays young, alive, a learning organization, oriented constantly towards the MTP. Step 11, constantly retest your assumptions. This relates back to experimentation, but you gotta retest, is my pricing correctly? Am I really following my MTP?
Starting point is 00:22:01 Because often you can drift off to the side. Oh my God, we had been there. We had a XO almost accidentally became a consulting company and we spent, we were spending more time advising big companies than trying to solve big problems. And we like the community actually rose up and go, Hey, what happened to the impact side of it? And we're like, Oh dang, we kind of accidentally left that. Cause you're in your own soup. It's really hard to gauge and see what is happening
Starting point is 00:22:25 around you so make sure you have active advisors that are constantly calling you out and testing you against the what you're doing are you aligned towards the mtp or not uh bert rutan who is the famed aerospace designer engineer at scaled composites he built spaceship one that won our 10 million dollar x prize has a quote I love. He says, question, don't defend. If you're building, it's a part of a cultural attribute. If you build a culture which asks, you know, which allows questions to be asked at any time instead of defending yourself, as soon as you start defending your position, you're backed into a corner and you're not able to explore new areas.
Starting point is 00:23:05 You're not telling yourself the truth. You're simply defending yourself. So question don't defend is one of those cultural elements of asking questions. You know, the video of Bert talking about this is so amazing. He goes, I've never been so goddamn excited as when trying to win this prize. I want to just do a quick shout out here. It's so amazing to watch an X Prize unfold. And the rationale behind this is when you put up a $10 million prize, something like 30 or 40 teams will spend like up to $150 million in R&D trying to win the $10 million. So it's the most leveraged model for innovation ever, where you can crowdsource hundreds of teams. How many teams are registered for the carbon extraction prize? We uh 1200 teams going after elon's 100 million dollars we just launched this
Starting point is 00:23:51 wildfire x prize and after the first month we have something like 60 or 70 teams all designing different ways you know detecting the fire is not the hard part, but if you found a wildfire igniting that's moving and you had to put it out autonomously in 10 minutes without humans in the loop, how would you do it? And so it's fun and it's exciting and it's changing the business model. The business model, again, I love business models. The business model for insurance was always fire insurance will pay you after your house burns down what about flipping the model and saying our fire insurance prevents the fire in the first
Starting point is 00:24:30 place right that's that that's right i want to just do an uh an anecdote related to the mtp uh one of my favorite stories at x-price and you watch all these teams like running around like mortgaging their house hoping to win. Oh my god, yes. Right? My favorite story is the Oil Cleanup XPRIZE funded by Wendy Schmidt, the $3 million prize for anybody that could double after the Deepwater Horizon oil spill. It turns out the oil cleanup technology has not changed since the 1980s, since the Exxon Valdez, because there was no economic incentive. So very quickly, a prize gets put together to say
Starting point is 00:25:05 Can you double the effectiveness of existing oil technologies tonight? we had 340 teams around the world who Registered to compete for this to try and reinvent how you clean up oil spill on the surface Before it hits the beaches and the fisheries and we had amazing teams the top 10 teams And we had amazing teams. The top 10 teams, one team was a family out of Alaska that mortgaged their home literally and built technology that came in the top 10. Another team, you can't make this stuff up, was a tattoo artist and his client.
Starting point is 00:25:37 The two artists had a vision and an idea. His client, who's a dentist, literally underwrote it. They built a scale model. They tested the guy's jacuzzi. And the first time it saw full-scale oil spill was at our test facility. And they came in second. I mean, and it's like... What's great about that story, right, is if you're a VC or an investor and that team walks
Starting point is 00:26:02 into your office, you are never funding that team, right? You're a dentist. you're a dentist, you have no experience, no background, no expertise in this. Never are you funding that team and yet you would have lost out, right? And this is what's so magical about sourcing from the crowd. You never know what you're going to get. But if you have an abundance of people working on it, that problem is always going to be solved. And this is so critical. And by the way, check it out at XPRIZE.org. Please get involved. Salim is on our board. Anusha Ansari, who funded our first $10 million prize and then flew privately to the space station for 10 days,
Starting point is 00:26:37 is now the CEO. I serve as executive chairman there. We've launched $300 million in XPRIZES. We're about to launch another quarter billion dollars. Our mission is to crowdsource solutions to the world's biggest problems, not for ideas, but people actually go and build this stuff and demonstrate it. All right. Final step in building an EXO is try and turn yourself into a platform. If you look at the history of the internet, Yahoo, Blackberry, Nokia all failed to become platforms.
Starting point is 00:27:08 Google, Apple, Facebook, Amazon all successfully became platforms, which means you become like a coral reef and you feed an ecosystem of people that are making their living off you, and now you're wired into the infrastructure. How incentivized am I to support your platform when it's the means by which I earn my revenue? Yeah. The average YouTube professional today is making like $4,000 a month. It's crazy. It's like an unbelievable amount of kind of value that's being generated, created.
Starting point is 00:27:37 Mr. Beast, who's probably the most popular YouTuber out there, found out something amazing about his background. He studied YouTube videos for three years before he created his first video because he wanted to understand the dynamics so fundamentally. Understand the algorithms that drove the economics behind it. And it's all about algorithms. Hey, everybody. This is Peter. A quick break from the episode.
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Starting point is 00:29:36 And if you think about it, what does that say? Well, this supplier doesn't have a great marketing engine. And what they ended up doing was they began aggregating these first the first they were just advising them yeah and then somebody said why don't you just buy the company and they're like oh so they started buying these companies at one point they put up a sign at an amazon marketplace conference if you're over a million in revenue we want to talk to you and they had a lineup around the block of people wanting to talk to them so they went zero to a couple billion in two years they went from zero to two billion dollars in revenue
Starting point is 00:30:09 okay just think about that zero to two billion dollars in revenue and because they're using an ai to scour the marketplace the whole thing is automated they can literally find a product reach out to the seller and say hey we think we can make you bigger do you want to sell boom so this is like a next generation CPG company. People, startups are now saying, I'm the Thrasio of this, or I'm the Thrasio of dry cleaning or whatever. It's been unbelievably successful.
Starting point is 00:30:35 The highest rated EXO that we ever saw, because we scored them all on that model, is GitHub, right? GitHub is a platform where developers can share code and watch each other and kind of create, and I can rate your code, you can rate my code. So they've created, and they put in all the elements, gamification, algorithms, staff on demand, et cetera. Now they were eight and a half years old and Microsoft bought them for seven and a half billion dollars, right? I remember talking to the accounting partner that was managing the acquisition for Microsoft
Starting point is 00:31:09 and he was freaking out. He's like, I don't know what to put on the balance sheet. This company has no assets, no intellectual property and basically no workforce. Like what are we buying? So he's literally trying to kill the deal because he can't figure out how to put any value against it in the Microsoft accounting systems and finally Satya Nadella says just buy the damn thing I want the community and now with chat GPT we they have access to all the GitHub repositories because GitHub is has been that successful the most favorite my favorite thing about GitHub is because it's open source and everybody is fully transparent your salary if you're a software developer in Silicon Valley today,
Starting point is 00:31:48 your salary has zero correlation to the university you went to, the degree you got, or the grades you got. It's 100% what is your GitHub rating, and that's how you're paid. So the value of a computer science degree just went to zero. So this is a profound commentary on the future of higher education. As we apply that to doctors and lawyers and so on, ChatGPT will really transform all of this. Let's note, by the way, since the year 2000,
Starting point is 00:32:15 we have written about 3 trillion lines of code around the world. And when an LLM or AI has access to all those 3 trillion lines of code, the next code you write is going to be that much better. Because if I'm a developer, you did software development when you were younger, you write maybe 50,000 lines of code, 100,000 lines of code. Never do you have access instantly in real time to 3 trillion lines of code. So what's coming in the future is going to be unbelievable. The same thing in medicine, right?
Starting point is 00:32:41 I like to tell people, you know, every day there are 7,000 medical journals that are public articles published in medical journals, 7,000. How many has your doctor read this morning? Well, an AI diagnostician will have consumed all of them, right? We're all going to have AI co-pilots, whether you're a doctor, a lawyer, an artist, a physician, whatever it might be. I like the way you put it where you go, it's not an AI that's going to take your job, it's a human using AI that's going to take your job. So it goes very quickly. Our whole purpose here, mine is to inspire and guide entrepreneurs like you to create a hopeful, compelling, and abundant future for humanity. I'm driven by that MTP. It's the reason I do what I do, why I'm here with my dear brother Saleem, and Saleem's to help create you know, create
Starting point is 00:33:26 and transform the planet and create exponential organizations. And the reason I'm here is because the only constituency and demographic that can change the world is entrepreneurs. Yes, 100%. You're risk tolerant, and by definition, you're crazy, right? Therefore, you can actually change the world. And we've got now a very clear methodology the value proposition support system tools training and the ecosystem for you go do that so the challenge we have for you is look deep inside yourself find the MTP that you want to go after and just go after it this is the best time in the history of the world to be an entrepreneur the best time ever to be alive, except perhaps for tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:34:05 You have a chance to uplift humanity, make a dent in the universe, and we hope that you do.

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