Morbid - Bonus Episode! A Scream Chat With Radio Silence, Melissa Barrera & David Arquette

Episode Date: February 11, 2022

Gather round weirdos, lend an ear and get HELLA STOKED because we got the chance to sit down with the creators and stars of the latest Scream!! In this episode we’re not only joined by Radio Silence’s Tyler Gillett, Matt Bettinelli-Olpin and Chad Villella, but with legacy cast member David Arquette and the insanely talented new star Melissa Barrera who stars in the latest film. We got to ask them about the creation of the film, David shares a fond memory with the one and only Wes Craven and we got to hear their thoughts on some burning questions we had for the future of the franchise. Hold onto your butts, and never run up the stairs instead of going out the front door… It's insulting. **we tried to stay away from true spoilers but discuss some characters and themes in the new Scream!** See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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this is a special morbid. This is one of the coolest morbids I think that we have actually ever had the chance to do. It's definitely really cool. It is absolutely phenomenal. We got to hang out with some very rad people. Uh, yeah, we got to hang out with, you might have heard of them, Radio Silence, who are made up of Matt Bellatini Open, Tyler Gillette and Chad Belella. They are the masterminds behind, ready or not, they are the masterminds behind. BHS. BHS Southbound and the new scream. Scream, 2022. And they're gonna be, and they're gonna be mastermindings

the sequel to the new scream, which I'm so excited for. I think it starts filming in September. Yeah, and not only did we get them, which would already be like, whoa, okay, I'm gonna listen to this episode because it sounds awesome. Oh, hold on, hold on to those butts. Wait a minute. We also got the star of the new scream, Melissa Barara. She plays Sam who, if you've seen the movie, you know exactly what I'm talking about because she was fucking amazing in it. Again, if that was the case already, this is amazing.

But guess what? But wait, there's more. Let me just tell you about the cherry on top of this whole delicious Sunday of beautiful people. We got to talk to Deputy Dewey Riley himself, David Arquette, a life changing experience overall. To be able to sit there and talk scream with Doey himself was just really something amazing, especially because we got to talk about West Craven.

We got to talk about, you know, the past screams, we got to talk about the screams coming up. We got to talk about anything and everything to do with scream. We even got to talk about the, the screams coming up. We got to talk about anything and everything to do with scream. We even got to ask about stew in case you were wondering. The burning question that we've all had since the year of my birth 1996. Since the year of our Lord 1996. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. And so the thing is with this, we didn't do any spoilers. We made sure to avoid those, but we do talk in depth about the new scream. We talk about plot points.

We talk about characters that might not be completely known if you haven't seen it. If you haven't seen the new scream, 2022 scream, and you are planning to see it and don't want anything spoiled, meaning like character names and possible plot points and deaths. Maybe wait till this end of this episode until you've seen it. Other than that, we're not going to spoil any of the big things from it, but I think you'll have a fun time if you've seen it or if

you want to see it and want to listen to it. So without further ado, here we are, get ready to listen to Ash Myself, Matt Bellatini Open, Chad Vallella, Tyler Gillette, Melissa Barraira, and David Arquette. I'm so happy to be here. Thank you guys so much for being here. We appreciate it insanely because we know you have like about a million press things that you probably have had to do the last few weeks, but we really, really appreciate it insanely because we know you have like about a million press things that you probably have had to do the last few weeks, but we really, really appreciate it. Thank you. Of course.

Yeah, that's a pleasure. Yeah. And this is going to be fun. I'm so excited. This feels like we're just like hanging out with a ton of people. It's awesome. I know it really does. And obviously, congratulations on like all the success already that this movie is getting.

It's huge. Thank you. Thank you. You're getting. It's huge. Thank you. They're welcome. It's insane. Yeah, we're thrilled. Particularly, I have been so excited for this. The second it was even hinted at, I was counting down the seconds.

Like huge. Because to start this off, I like to hear everybody's first original screen experience, Because I like, so to start this off, I like to hear everybody's first, like, original scream experience, because mine, in particular, because it came out in 1996, the first one, I'm sure you all know. And I was like 11 when it came out,

but my first experience of it was I convinced my mom to somehow rent the VHS from a Hollywood video, because she just didn't know it was a slasher movie. I was like, yeah, just throw that one in there. And I also did that with children of the corn to her once because it has a sickle on the front, and it looks like a crescent moon. And I was like, it's about fairies.

And she rented it. So, that's a true story. And so this was one of those that I just was like, look at these pretty people on the cover. Let's rent that. And I remember being terrified, but being obsessed with the writing, obsessed with how different this was. Like, I couldn't stop watching it over and over. And I was also obsessed with Stu and Billy, which made me feel some type of way. And now I'm like, okay, I kind of made like a career out of some of that. Yeah, it makes sense now. It makes sense. But and I think Ash, you were, this movie came out, the original

scream came out the year that I was born. So that's my first experience with it. We can all feel old for a second. But we want to hear about all of your first experiences with it. Yeah. It's, dude, why don't you start because yours is. Yeah. We were going to say we would love to hear David's first experience. When did you see it? Came out the year I was born.

What great acting at such a young age. The, um, the funniest thing is the first time I saw it. I used to work at this news stand on Melrose and we all used to hang out there. They used to give out these flyers for likerose and we all used to hang out there. They used to give out these flyers for like, you know, when you live in Hollywood,

they always get these little flyers and say, come to a test screening. And it gives you a little log line of what it's about. And they were doing that. I was like, oh, what's the movie? And I looked at it and I read it. And I was like, oh, I just filmed this movie. I'm in this. I read it and I was like, oh, I just filmed this movie. I'm in this.

I know this one. So I went and then they saw me in the line at Parabot. And they're like, you can't be here. Oh my God. That is amazing. So I was like, well, I'm here. And they're like, OK, come to the back. So it was just don't let anyone see you.

You're not allowed to be here. So they let me watch it, but the greatest experiences that I got to watch, Wes watch it. And I was watching it, but I kept watching, like turning to Wes and he'd be like, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,'s coming. And it's like, hmm, and then everyone go, ah, and then they'd laugh. And he would just like chuckle.

That's just my favorite moment ever. Just watching him watch what he's doing. That's the best of me. And that really is. I'm like, that must've been the coolest experience like ever. Just knowing what's best of it in a big amazing experience.

Truly. It was. Because you see the joy that he had in scaring people, but then people laughing as well, like, at their... Maybe. Did you have a sense that it was like special when you were watching it in the theater? Did it, like, have that...

Were you like, oh shit, we did it, we made a thing that's last. We did it like, have that, were you like, oh shit, we did it, we made a thing that's last. We did a thing. Yeah, I feel, I felt it on this one too. It definitely, you know, there was that same kind of feeling. You know, you did it once in a while. It's when a lot of different elements come together.

We're great producers, great writers, great directors, great cast that's jelling, not a lot of egos, or the egos balance each other. There's egos, but they're good. Yeah, exactly. You need a certain amount of egos in this business. Of course. What about you guys, Matt Chad Tyler, your first experience with the original? Chad Tyler your first experience with the original mine was a I saw it in when I I saw it in Oakland at the Grand Lake Theater and my friend of mine in college is actually in the party scene he's the he's the dude that's doing like

the beer kit what oh my god I know exactly what you're talking about the jacket on the couch and it's awesome he's like oh That's really fun. It was like, oh, he gets messed with Henry Winkler. His name is Ryan. So I saw it right after Christmas break, so it'd probably been out a couple of weeks. But it was that experience that I think we've talked about a lot,

where it's a theatrical experience the way you want it, where the audience is interacting with the movie, and they're doing exactly what you were just talking about David. You know, we were like laughing and gasping and it's like you feel the energy. It's an energetic movie. It's not just, it's not passive viewing. And I think that's, that's what like, it took us in me right away. I was like, oh, this is, all I want is this kind of experience.

Oh, yeah. That's exactly how I felt. And I felt that way about this one too. Because when we saw it, I was literally like, everybody was screaming, like laughing, gasping, yelling things out, like yelling, like, no, and that's exactly what you want in an experience. I haven't had that experience in a theater,

and I can't remember one. Yeah, because there were a bunch of people you don't know, but you feel like you're all in something together, weirdly enough. Yeah, and then you just latch on to the characters. I think Isn't we all keep going back to scream? Yeah, yeah, they're so good. Oh, absolutely. Definitely. It was for me, it was like one of the very first movies that I ever went to see multiple times in a theater, right? It was like the first time I saw it. I felt like I missed so much because a I'm a scary cat and

I felt like I missed so much because a I'm a scary cat and And then b I just would get cut up be either in just the laughing and just having a good time at it I might have missed a line or something like that and just loving every single character on on screen and and so we went back Multiple times in that first week after we saw it like maybe two or three other times And that was the very first time I ever ever been like let's go to the movies again to see the same movie. It was just that type of excitement around it and it really meant a lot to us. And then with VHS and the way home entertainment was back in the day, we basically had it playing

all the time in our apartment. It was just always on. Yeah. It was like, we had scream and then we had Empire Records. It's great combo. Great combo. Very combo, but it was like, all right, we're gonna roll with this for now.

But yeah, so it was always on and always in our lives after it came out. I love that. I saw it on VHS. I didn't see it in theaters. I saw it as sleepover. That's his way of saying he's younger than the rest of us. Yeah, exactly.

I love it. I love it. You were on my level. I was like, I like didn't, I was fascinated by the horror movie section of my video store growing up, but I did not like fear and fun didn't translate to me and when I was younger,

and I remember watching it to sleep over, which I would say is like probably the scariest way to experience screen. Definitely. Yep. In a situation that not safe at all, right? You're in a house. And I remember never being more scared

and then never being more entertained. And it was this feeling of, wow, this movie is so much smarter than me. And the feeling of like, it's, I'm being so, just so manipulated by every moment of it and just loving the ride, every single second of it was, you know, was just this really profound eye-opening, eye-opening experience.

And it was, and it was a gateway for me, like everyone says, so many people say it was, right? It was sort of the introduction to a whole galaxy of horror movies for me. That's exactly how I feel. I think this was the first slasher that I had seen and that's still my favorite movie genre. And I'm like, I feel like it's because of scream.

Yeah, and it was the first one too that I'd seen and that I had seen that was like a who done it, like a true who done it, where the entire time you're like, no, it's that one. No, it's gotta be that. No, they're being too hard with this one. No, it's that, and I felt that,

and they've done such a good job of doing that with every single one of them, that you think immediately you know who it is, and then it flips it, and then it brings it back, and it flips it, and yours, this one did it perfectly, because I went back and forth, like I kept saying, it's this one, I know it. I'm locking it in right now and that was wrong.

So, David focusing on your character just for a second, because he's obviously a favorite in this house, for sure, and a fan favorite. We loved up here to do a far beyond. You've been in all the movies and obviously, like the first one, there's a year between, and then three years between two and three, and then 11 for the last two.

So is it hard to stay in one character throughout such a long-running franchise? Like, what's your process to get back into Do-E? Do you watch the movies? I get to do it. No, it's literally like... You just fall right into it? I just, no, it's so weird.

I could just think like, I'm Clint Eastwood. Yeah. And then and then I remember no you're not Clint Eastwood. That's the whole character is like just trying so hard but that you like you know I'm actually human. That's an amazing way to describe him. Yeah. And then just, I don't know. It's had this weird parallel with my life.

So I don't know. It's been just this weird constant kind of very close character to me. I feel like the Do We of 2022 is so evolved really from the one of 1996 and really even from the the 2011 film. It's like a really believable natural progression. How do you feel about the shift in character going to this one to 2022? Um, yeah, I think it was really interesting what Guy and Jamie and Matt and Tyler did with

sort of like seeing a character whose life didn't turn out the sort of way he expected or would have hoped or you know what I mean it's kind of like there's something very realistic about that you know just in life experience. I've noticed just as you get older there's like a little shine that you lose and like, you know, like this big, gullible or optimistic and you know, light beat you down. I don't know, I feel it's up to us to store to keep that shine and like fight through all that and not let it beat you down, not give in or give up. So it was interesting to see them there. You know, we had a lot of conversation about alcohol

and like, I was like, I just didn't see doing us an alcoholic. You know, that's the whole other realm of self abuse and everything. But, you know, they ended up, we shot a bunch of stuff but they ended up cutting some stuff. I don't know if it just didn't fit or if, yeah, I don't know why. You were right, there's why. Yeah, we were still having.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and that's like that, that you can, you obviously wanting there to be some real emotional gravity with Dewey and where he's at, but there's a fine line between that flavor, that seasoning, like being the right amount and being so much that it kind of pulls the tone in a direction that you just don't wanna go, right? You know, David to your point, I think, you said so much during prep that there's, even when Dewey's at the darkest moment, there's this buoyancy with his character, there's a when Dui is at the darkest moment,

there's this buoyancy with his character. There's a feeling of hopefulness, even though he's not the Clint Eastwood, he hopes he is. And there's this sort of buoyancy to his character that really, in so many ways, gives these movies their flavor. And so it was one yeah, that was one of the,

one of the main reasons why that stuff just felt, you know, like it didn't really belong in the movie, ultimately. I could definitely see that. And that's cool too, that David, you know, Dewey, so well, like you, you know, you embody him. So it's cool that you're able to say, you know what, like, I don't think he would do this. Or like, this doesn't feel right. And you guys you're able to say, you know what, I don't think he would do this. Or like, this doesn't feel right.

And you guys were able to be like, you know what, yeah, you're right, that doesn't feel right. And I think it came, that's why it came out so realistic. Because when we first see him, I remember we were both like, oh man, this is like, oh, I want to hug, do we? But it was so real.

Like if they had changed this into something, you know, way more like sun shiny, it wouldn't have been as real. Yeah, just made sense. I wouldn't believe that. So this was so much more like, yeah, that's exactly what would have happened. It makes sense, for sure. But Melissa, you're back. We have you. I am. I feel like, I love just being here and listening because I mean, I got to do some press with Nevin Courtney and I was just like, how did I get so lucky to just be here listening to all these stories because they've been with this

for 25 years. So like, we just came in into this amazing roller coaster and to work with the people that we've admired for so long, but they have so many stories, they have so much history with the franchise, with Wes. Like, David and I, when we were shooting that scene, when we're driving to the hospital, like, David and I were in a car together for hours,

and he was just telling me stories and stories and stories of, like, the first movies and about the West, and I was just like, this is amazing. Like, this is, like, anyone would kill to be in my seat right now. Yes, we condent it. Yeah. We're just, we're just, yeah. So lucky to have the generosity of David and Nevin Courtney to like come back without West and and share all their knowledge

with us and share their experience. And because it was the same like with David knowing, do we, it was fascinating to watch them, the three of them just like slip right back into their character so seamlessly. It was like magic. It was like you were experiencing, it was like you were seeing like the best David Copperfield show.

I'm just like, that's the shape shit. When I was, yeah, you know, like it was insane. Like it was, it was beautiful to watch and it was such a, we were so blessed to have them guiding us, all of us. Yeah. Oh, that's insane. Seeing that scene that we were exactly just talking about that

before we jumped on here. I was going to ask you, Melissa. Obviously, this is a very established and beloved franchise. And you were amazing in it. Immediately, I was like, you fit so well. I feel like that's like where both like, yes. And I just want to know, were you nervous? So was there, did you feel the pressure of this?

Like you were going in? Yeah, like stepping into such like a established franchise with legacy characters. A crippling. Herbs. Oh. It didn't show. I could only imagine.

Oh no, like yeah, it was, it was, it was so much pressure and it was so terrifying that if I thought about it, I would just not show up on set. You know, like if I stopped to think about it, I would just be too scared to even do anything. So I had to kind of like compartmentalize and be like, okay, you'll deal with that later

because right now you just have to show up and try and be as professional as you can and make the people that have been a part of this franchise for 25 years and that are trusting the newcomers to like carry this on and keep this going, make them proud and make them feel like that they were right to come back. You know, because because in the end, like David Courtney and they're coming back to this fifth installment was a huge like vote of confidence for Matt and Tyler and Chad and for all of us. So I felt the weight of that and I was like, I just want to do right by them. And because they know

Wes, they know what he would have wanted and they know what he would have liked, you know, and if he would have been proud of this. And so that's what mattered the most to me. And I still, you know, I coming in, I was like this is going to be tough. Like I already know that this is going to be tough because it's a story that's been going for 25 years. People are in love with these characters that they know and have known for four movies. And coming in and being a new girl, I knew that it was gonna be rough.

Like I was expecting it. I was expecting like the people that would be like, yes, and the people that would be like, hell no. We don't see that, you know, like I was prepared for both. You made true scream fans proud. I can say I speak for all of them every single one. And someone who loved all the original movies, I think you did an amazing job.

Yeah, I think you start passing absolutely the expectations for sure. You really did. You said something that totally just pinged for me, like this idea that you're so thankful that the work is as hard and as fast paced as it is, because you don't have time to freak the fuck out about how crazy the task is how you know that all

of that anxiety can be so crippling, but it's only crippling if you're not in the process of making the thing. And we're always so thankful. There's like so much credit goes to William the producer who was on the ground. Just like pushing everything forward. Like there was never a moment where it was like, okay, well, there was never a moment where it was like, okay, well, we should just pause and it was like, nope, just keep going, keep going. Like keep working the thing, keep working the script, keep working the scene.

And you can't, you sort of aren't allowed to get anxious and nervous when you're just in the doing of it. And man, if we had taken even a moment, it would have been like a crushing. It's like, I'm not a pressure. It's why we all get sick and have breakdowns after we're done. Yeah, I bet.

Honestly. I can't imagine. Yeah. And that was, I was going to ask you guys too, Matt Chattantiler. I was going to ask you the same question and you kind of answered it. That it must have been so crazy nerve-wracking like just walking into this and just taking it in your hands But it felt like you guys were really and I think I'm right here But I think you were like very confident in your vision for this it came off that way at least and I think it was so much better

Then if you had like Pandered or catered to every single wish of every you know I mean like there's so many fans that are like, I want this to happen, I want this to happen. If they don't do this, ram, ram, and I think you didn't, can you like, gave what we needed, but you were so confident in your own vision, that it was like, what we didn't know we needed.

You know, really? Were there challenges along the way, like, creating it? Yeah, I think they're always are. I think the thing, and that anxiety is like, it's always, it's there from the moment you first read something that excites you and you're aware that not only of just the gravity of what it is, but that excitement and wanting to do that excitement justice is like such a huge thing, right? That you're like chasing that feeling of, I know this can be something great. And how do you hold on to that feeling

for a lot long enough to actually complete the task. And then over the course of making it, especially early on, there are always moments. And I think they're the same for all of us. But I imagine we also have kind of different ones where there's certain things that sort of click into place that make you go, oh, we're ready. Like, this is right. This is right. And I certainly meeting David Nevin Courtney for the first time. That was like a huge moment for us, where, you know, I mean, they're heroes of ours. And so we want so badly for them to, for them to feel connected and, you know, for them to like vouch for what the project is and then the other the other big one was when when Melissa and Jenna the two of you did your chemistry read. And that was early in the process. This was like early pandemic. We were supposed to like be getting into preproduction, but everything had gotten pushed. And that was a moment for, I think, all of us on the producing creative side where we were like,

holy shit, like we've got a movie, like this. Oh, yeah. Totally gonna work. And you just keep trying to stack as many of those moments on top of one another. And hopefully you make it to the end. You did it. We are the fans, right?

The things that I am gaining the writers. So we were having these conversations. We are all throwing out what our fan theories would be of where this would go. And obviously, Jamie and Guy wrote an incredible script. And we all had to be on the same page moving forward. But we approached it as fans and from the original and all through all

four of them and making sure we had throwbacks from each of them. So it wasn't just one. It's a fan of the entire series and not just picking and choosing. So, which sometimes you know, like if you get on Reddit or whatever and you see a couple of those things, it might be, you know, like when people rank them, like go away, just like, yeah. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. like go away just like yeah right exactly yeah yeah I hate the ranking thing too I hate that because I'm like I just love them all I can't I love them all for what they are they're all special in their own way yeah it's like picking a favorite child you can't do that you can't do that. Yo, can we talk about that for a second?

We did a little party bus thing going around opening weekend and we went to a few movie theaters and we introduced the movie. Like we just showed up and we watched people watch the movie. Oh, that's so cool. And we introduced the movie to some shows. And we met this really cool fan. Do you remember? And he was his like seventh time watching the movie. Wow. It was it was it was Friday night. It's Friday night. Oh my God. That is Wow. Yeah, I can't. And it's seven times. And he came out for a drink and he saw us there. And so he came and we started talking.

And he was just fascinating talking to him. But he was such an ultimate. To me, fandom is about love, loving something. And then what I love about the movie is that it talks about toxic fandom. And how it can turn the other way around and get so nitpicky and like I get it. But he was just like so he got it like he got the movie. He got everything that that we wanted to do and it was just such a beautiful thing to get to talk to him. And him being like, this is my eighth time.

He showed us all these tickets. I just want you guys to do well at the box office. And I was like, and I was like, I almost started crying, because I was like, this is, this is the screen fandom. Like, this is why this story lives on because people go.

And I have like in my social media, people are like, this is my fifth time that I'm gonna watch it it. This is my tenth time like and it's that kind of movie that makes you want to go back but it's such a team effort. Like it's not just us that make it and that are in front of and behind the camera. It's everyone. It's like it's everyone that shows up to the theater and like goes and watch us in and like tells people to go watch it and and and all of this was for me to say that I want to talk about the third one because I feel like the third one gets a lot of

it does. It does. Thank you. I feel like the third movie gets so much. Hey, it does. I don't get it at all. I did a marathon with my whole family over new years to prepare them for the movie. And the third one is my new favorite. Because this time around, this time around, I think I was more of a need of like the humor. And it's such a humorous. It's like the funniest I think out of all the movies.

Definitely. And I didn't even realize it, but like talking to this fan that I'm blanking on his name and I apologize, but you know who you are. You know who you are. Maybe. You know who you are. But he was saying that the third one

happened right after a Columbine, I think. Yeah. Oh, you're right. We were talking about that, actually. And so that the whole, like the shift in tone and the fact that it became a little bit more comedic versus scary is because they They they read the room. They read like the energy of the world in that moment And that's what the world needed and I just think that's what makes me love it even more. Absolutely.

I don't even know that. I fully agree. Oh my God. Like it's brilliant. That was Wes. You know, like he was like, oh, okay, we're toning it down. We're making it this because we're living through this right now. And I just think that's beautiful. Absolutely.

Because it always makes me crazy. I like, I'm totally with you guys with the ranking thing. It makes me nuts. I just can't do it. And it's true that three. I'm like, three has so much. Like, so much. Like that whole scene when the killer is revealed. I'm like, this is brilliant, like I love it. It's different, but it vibes.

And it's so cool to watch, to watch a filmmaker challenging himself and the writing and the cast, like that it's, it's so clear that I and David I'm curious like if you had conversations with Wes about that that Everything like there was never a desire to just repeat To sort of do the paint by numbers version to make the assembly line Franchise, you know, but to actually like really challenge what the idea is and try to find the new weird way that you could fold the universe in on itself. And I mean that's that's why I think that franchise it holds up as just one of

the most memorable and exciting because you can see that in the work that, you know, there's a real desire to continue to be inspired by what the characters are and what the world of scream is. Yeah, totally. There were moments throughout and it typically came when it got really like the scripts got thrown out, like you know, it got really sort of felt like it was a working or something got revealed online or all these little weird changes would happen along the way, especially with three

and you know three allowed us to like dive into the comedy for sure. There was one moment where we were tied up or something and it just felt so scooby-doo. Like, you're like, oh, this feels so scooby-doo. But I had the same experience where I've re-found love with it. And I also read Wes's memoirs. And it kind of got an idea for his take and where he was coming from and all that kind of stuff. But then also, I was like, oh yeah, and four.

Like, we had a bunch of conversations. I was trying to convince them that for us to have a kid because we had a kid. You know what I mean? This is we have a kid. Make sense. We have a kid. I don't know.

It was always like the, I see dead people. There's always something like this thing about a kid, I don't know, he was always like the, yeah, I see dead people, there's always something, like, you know, the thing about a kid in a scary situation, it just amps up like, oh, I don't want to protect it and all that, but also pitched the idea for like streaming stuff, but not like as it came out a little clunky, but I was one of the people I don't know who like finally did it, but I had been seeing that, you know, the internet was coming and all this stuff was coming. So, in West, we were talking about it and then he started including all the camera sort of streaming element which is if you look back way ahead of it's time way ahead of

the time. Yeah every single one is ahead of it's time and some in its own right right exactly. The teenagers having cell phones that's like the big shocking thing right. The huge cell phone right. It falls and almost breaks his foot when it falls out of his pocket. I'm not sure. So are you all right, Billy? What's going on? Right. And even up to four, where it's like so ahead of time with the streaming, the live streaming thing,

like David is showing, like, what Snapchat tried the spectacles thing for a while, where you could look and just wear the glasses, and it was stream what you're watching. And that was years after after four came out. So it's always about the times, but also aware of what's coming. And that's the fun of screen. It's able to comment on where we're at as a society

and where we're at in terms of our passions and what's important to us as human beings. And then also look a little bit ahead as to where things are going and serve as a cautionary tale for, for all of that. You know, at the bottom line, just like, just be good people. Let's not kill each other. I'm a bad person. Let's not murder.

That's the moral of sorry. And all murder. And murder. Do not murder your friends. I have a question. I have a question. When for you did you feel like it, like the idea of the fandom around the franchise became something you were aware of? Was that right after the first movie,

like when did it feel like Holy shit? There's a community of people who value this in a way that you maybe didn't anticipate when you started the process. Definitely after the first and after it came out and it's sort of like people started going to see it over and over again. But then when you go to a horror convention, that's where you really meet like people where it's touched them. They have stories about, you know, going on their first day to another marry and have three kids and like how then how deep that becomes for people do you realize that along the way that it's really about entertaining the fans and it's about

that connection with the fans and it's about those moments in time where those films had come out and where it resonates for them rather than for sort of what we were going through while we're making it or whatever. But um, yeah, so that's really always what touches me the most is when people have those kind of experiences. And then I think back about my experience like watching Halloween with my friends for the first time. And like, so those, that is really the best part of the horror franchise. It's like that's scary. That's like for those memories that that sort of community go to, especially when you go to a really rowdy theater. That's when it becomes the best. No, yeah. Especially like the opening, like the feeling even when this this opened over that weekend was the feeling of almost like Halloween. It really was. Yeah, it's really cool. So whatever that can happen, I really

love. Because it was such an event. Like we rarely have like events like movie events anymore., so this felt like such a huge one. I was so excited about it. And then just for a quick story, just to tell you how much this one impacted, we went to see this one and we took my husband who was not a huge slasher fan, but he was like, all right, I'll go.

And he was guessing halfway through who it was. He was like, oh, I remember this room from the other way. Like he was totally into it, connecting the little dots along the way. Which we were like, look at you. I was like, wow. And then we get home, we put the kids to bed. And I think I was just like doing a quick workout. I come downstairs and he's watching the first scream.

And he was like, there's a marathon on it now. I want to watch the other ones. He's like, I want to see the new one again. So I can start, because we were pointing out the was like, there's a marathon on it. Now I want to watch the other ones. He's like, I want to see the new one again. So I can start, because we were pointing out the little references you guys put into all the screams. We kept being like, scream too, scream for it. Like we were screaming. He's like, I don't remember the, like, what are you talking about?

So he went back and was like, I want to see it again. So I can start knowing these references. So you like hooked him right back in. So thank you for that. We were doing press, and I was with Nav. And I was like, Nav, I think about, like going over the film and like certain things I think about it. I'm thinking, she's like, you know the movie's over, right?

I was doing doing Dylan, doing mode, so I'm investigating. Be careful, Sydney. Don't touch me. You're like, Nev, should you be out here alone? Like, are you all right? I love that. It's become so real to so many people.

It's like a real world that we live in. And I think that's also, we've talked about Wes a ton. And he has felt very clearly through all of the movies, including the newest one. And one of the things I loved seeing was one at the end, just seeing four Wes in that font and everything. I was like, that was like a feeling, honestly. It was like visceral.

It was, we were just like, yay. And then also, there's a particular character named Wes in this one that as soon as I heard his name, I was like, ee. And a particular scene with him, I felt like was, and it's like, you know, the big scene with him, I felt like it was kind of a tribute to us because it was so gnarly.

And I was like, I feel like Wes would love this. I don't know him, but I feel like he would love this. And I just want to know, was that intentional? Was that kind of an intentional tribute to him in a way? Yeah, I mean, very specifically that the name. Yeah. And in that scene, I mean, I feel like the whole movie is a tribute to Wes from our point of view

on some level, you know, so yeah, for sure. And I think, you know, we were just talking about this yesterday with how gnarly that scene gets to one of the things that we've had a lot of people tell us that this one is more violent and more brutal than the other ones, which I don't think we agree with. But I think the thing that kind of dawned on us is that what we were trying to do when it came to that is to recreate the feeling we had when we saw the originals regardless of what it actually was to us it was so visceral and it was so real and so to try to be able to recreate that was something that I think just really

mattered to us. You definitely succeeded I can tell you that. Yeah, for sure. Because in the end when four West comes up, you're like, yep, that was like, yeah, no doubt about it. And I think I think that scene, that West scene, the big West scene, is I know because I saw it a few times with different people. And that was the scene where people were the most on the edge of their seat. Yes. And like grabbing on to the arms of the other people because there's so many fake scares in that scene

that kills you on the inside that's so much anticipation for like, when is the attack going to happen? And it's just so beautifully constructed. And I think that it's very fitting that it's the character beautifully constructed. And I think that it's very fitting that it's the character of West that gets that scene because it's

so much of like what West probably what you guys learn from West, you know, like that thing of like the keeping the audience at the edge of their seat and like tricking and all these all these wonderful things that West was so good at

doing like that scene is perfect. That was one of those scenes too, that like in the edit, whenever we would watch it, it was one that we always found ourselves watching, like we would be watching the movie. I mean, we could get in there and tinker with it, but it was one that we would lose ourselves in, just in the editing of it, it was,

oh, like we're just watching the West scene and we're all kind of holding our breath. And there are always those scenes in the movies that you're making where you sort of, it's weird, you have this distance from it. And that's that you know it's working because it's having an effect on the people who were there, like, you know,

every little moment. It also, David, what you were saying earlier about watching Wes watch the original. And just like, that's the scene for us that we do that the most. The most I do. She's like, really? Really?

Really? You know, it's so awesome. Yeah, that's the one where we do that the most. Oh, and it's like, we felt it too, because like, Melissa was saying, we were throughout that scene. That's what we're like. We're like, we felt it too, because like Melissa was saying we were throughout that scene. But two of us were like, we're like, like, wrapping like what is happening here? And I think it's just the way it shot and the way everything happens.

That's why it just felt like such a less scene to me because it was like the anticipation and the suspense in that scene and you being like, like, you just don't know when it's going to happen. And then it took it like so, like we keep saying it was so gnarly, but it was like just enough. Like it was just enough where you were like, oh, like afterwards you're just like, damn, what did I just watch?

It was so good. It seemed very, very sort of interesting. We was scripted, was scripted differently. It like was a real, kind of action sequence where Wes like, ran into into his mom's room and went to her gun safe and there was a ticking clock of like, is he gonna get the gun out in time?

And when we got into pre-production and we started crafting, wanting to make sure that every scene, every kind of kill scene had its own really unique identity. That was always one that felt a little bit like it would be an any action movie. And then sort of coupled with that was just the production challenge of what you guys aren't going to have enough enough time to shoot to do justice to that to that action sequence. And

I remember really specifically we were sitting in the in campshare at the conference room at the home of sweet and trying to brainstorm like what can we do with this kill? We know these are the ingredients we know we have and it dawned on us how fun it would be to do a kill to craft something where the audience is fully aware of something that the character isn't and they're just going about their normal routine, normal day, but the audience knows that that there is something horrible like lurking somewhere in the house. And that for it was like one of those moments where we're like,

shit, that totally, that's exactly the right, exactly the right idea. And then that house happened to be so perfect with all the little four doors and the way that door, the door of the pantry opens up. Oh my God. Yes. Okay, and the one that refrigerator was positioned, we didn't have to move or design anything in terms of the layout of that space. It was just one of those moments where like there's something at work in the universe that it all kind of comes together and becomes what it is. Yeah, it sounds like it was like, Kismet, honestly. It was a West moment. Yeah, it was. Honestly. Because I didn't know how that was going to end through that

whole day. I was like, is he going to be fine? Like, everything's going to be fine. I was like, I don't think when it happened, I was shocked. I think west would be a big deal. I think one of the things you know, like you heard about earlier, in the original movie and with this one, most of the cast was there watching outside on monitors.

Oh, that's cool. The day they were working had no reason to be there. with this one. Most of the cast was there watching outside on monitors. Oh, that's cool. They were working had no reason to be there, but that was the kind of movie this was. It's like people would just go to hang out with their friends and watch these things. And, you know, like that doesn't happen on a lot of movies where people are going on a day off to just watch.

Just watch it happen. And it's a very cool. And the thing that we use in the movie when West does see Ghost Faces, that was kind of a prank We played on Dylan too because he didn't know ghost faces there for that take and we just wanted to get his like natural reaction to I love that I Don't They spend the night behind them so we just got ghost face in behind him when he was walking up to the door because he did the door thing a couple times

And then on that one we put ghost face behind him and that jump, we almost jumps off a, he almost hurt himself. Yeah. Oh, no. It's longer. I love it. That's awesome. So obviously, we found out that you guys

are now working on the sequel, which is really exciting. And congratulations on that. So exciting. I think our biggest question surrounding that is Melissa, because in this one, you have such a fascinating kind of like backstory for this installment of scream. Do you think or do you hope that going into this sequel

will get a little more information on you and like your family? I don't know. I don't know. I was gonna say. I was gonna say. Yeah, I don't even know that I've like, I don't know. I can't, I don't know that I can, I don't know what to say because I don't even know that I've, like, I don't know. I can't, I don't know that I can, I don't know what to say because I don't know.

That's my number. We figured we'd ask. Because I don't know what to say. That's my number. We figured we'd ask. Because I don't know what to say. That's my number. We figured we'd ask.

Because I don't know what to say. That's my number. We figured we'd ask. Because I don't know what to say. Because I don't know. That's my number. We figured we'd ask. Because I don't know what to say for anything and just you know whatever whatever the writers think is the best you know journey for this sequel will be I think the thing that we can say we can say about it is the now that now that

these characters exist that what the script is and can be is so much more specific, because they're real characters now, right? It's not just the blueprint of what someone can be. It's like Melissa, Jenna, you know, Mason, Jasmine, like they brought those characters to life in such a real way that now, the target for Guy and Jamie has now so specific and we're so excited to see what they come up with.

I think it's gonna be really cool to see. I'm excited for it. That's what, because honestly your character was at the whole time, I was like, what's going on? Like what happened, right? Because you get little snippets of like, you know, she got in trouble and she was like a kind of a bad girl

at one point and you're like, what happened? I need to know that it's funny. Because you know just enough, but you still feel so connected to your character automatically, which says a lot for you. Yeah, absolutely. Thank you. Absolutely.

I think it was definitely like it was a beautifully written character and I feel so lucky that I got to that I got to bring her to life and that I got to work with David and mev and Courtney and are we doing spoilers here? I've been so careful because I know that in some countries that movies not out yet and so I've been trying to like not post spoilers or stuff like that to be to give people a chance to experience it on, you know, when they go and watch it. But, but I'm just I'm just happy that I got to play this character that is so different to Galen Sydney, you know, like you already have Gail and Sydney and like and these two women are the faces of scream and like they're such lovable and like fierce characters and then Sam is

So completely different to both of them and that's what I loved about it that like Guy and and Jamie were like how do we compliment Guy and Jamie were like, how do we compliment these two women that already exist? We're not trying to bring someone in that to be any kind of replacement because that's not even possible. Like, let's bring in someone that's completely different that can be a little bit, you know, how do you say? I'm not volatile, but like... Yeah, I kind of rough around the edges and like, you don't know what to expect.

Yeah, like she thinks up. That's what I liked because it didn't feel like, you know, it was trying to, you were trying to be anything that you shouldn't be like, it was like that character was so its own character. And I immediately was like, oh, I'm excited for this character now because it's so different. And now I'm like, where's this going? And I can't wait to see it. Me too.

I'm like, I feel like so. Yeah. But I think if, because I know you guys probably don't have a ton more time, but I had to, and also we're going to say, you know, in the beginning of this, we'll say like, if you haven't seen it, maybe see the movie before listening.

Not that we've really spoiled anything, but I don't want anybody just walking into like full discussions. So we'll make sure people are a little prepared ahead of time. But I have two questions and I don't know if you're going to be able to answer these. So if you can't, that's totally fine. If you're like, no. We had to shoot our shot. But I got to shoot my shot. So the first one, I noticed, and a lot of people noticed in this last film there was a little mention of a character called Kirby that was from the fourth one. I know, I know it's crazy that you probably didn't mean to but it was there. And I personally love Kirby the character so when I saw this I was really excited

and I just wanted to know like do you like Kirby? Do you like her enough to see her again perhaps or what are your thoughts? Uh, no, we're we we are huge huge Kirby fans. We wanted we wanted Kirby to serve even more of a kind of purpose in this, in this last one, but at the end of the day, it felt like we kicked around a bunch of ideas with Diane Jamie, but it always felt like to do that character justice. You need to, to like have a moment where Kirby can be Kirby, and we just weren't ever going to be able to really do that. And so it felt, it felt like a more, the more fun way to sort of nod to her survival was in a very small Easter egg and and you know just letting people know that she's out there and still in the world

is such a fun. We had no idea like just the level of fandom and a theory around the game. The level of Kirby dumb. Oh, Kirby Stan. Yeah, it's intense. I really like turkish character, but I... The live could create such a conflict with a totally foreign thing to us. It's wild, but in these, I feel like in these movies, in particular, if you don't see them die,

you're immediately like, Welp. I'm just saying anything's possible. And he thinks what, like, which brings me to my last one, which is a burning question and a hot for debate. So, I love Stu-Macher. Just putting that out there. Love Stu-M, heard around the block that he, that it might be canon a little bit.

I've never used that word until right now, so I wanna let you know that. That he may still be alive somehow. I don't know how. I have not like thought about it too hard. Do you think he's so alive? Just your personal thoughts. Anybody, all of you.

You don't see him dying the first one. I'm like blanking. So you see a TV go on. He just falls on and said, he grows. Do you want Dewey's answer? Absolutely. I do, hell yeah.

I don't want to, more than anything. I don't want anybody, but he does say he's a real looney case. He is a real looney, too. Yeah. Yeah, there you go. I like it. I like it cuz You heard it your first drop the mic on Cuz he does grown after that thing hits his head He grows I was trying to show my husband while we were watching it I was like see the grown and he was like, no, he didn't survive. But like this is no way. I was like, you didn't see him die. I didn't see him brought up.

I mean, I'm a Matthew Lillard fan. Oh, yeah, absolutely. So I'm also I'm also I hate him. Penetior fan. Yep. Of course. And and and salmon Kirby are the same age. So just, you know, if the writers are listening, I don't know that I have. I feel like they would hang out. I feel like they would hang out. I'm just saying they have similar vibes. They definitely do. I think so. They both have good hair. I feel like it works. I'm for it. Well, with that, thank you so much for answering those questions by the way, because they were like burning.

And I was like, I gotta shoot my shot. I gotta try it. But David Melissa Matt Tyler Chad, thank you so much for taking the time to talk to us. This has been so much fun. This is probably one of the coolest things that's ever happened to us. Yes, so thank you.

Huge screen fans, and this is like huge for us. So we really appreciate it and we can't wait to watch the movie a million more times. Thank you. Thank you. It's so good to see you. I love you. Thank you. Have a good call, David.

Bye. Thank you so much. Thank you guys so much. Thank you. It was so nice to be you. It was so much guys. Thank you guys so much. Thank you. It was so nice to be you. It was so nice to be you. It was so nice to be you.

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