Morbid - Episode 112: The Abduction and Murder of Polly Klaas

Episode Date: January 20, 2020

The abduction and murder of 12 year old Polly Klaas in 1993 was the beginning of a lot of changes in the way America views crimes against children. Her murderer, Richard Allen Davis, showed u...s all that true evil does exist and it can walk right into your home. Sources: http://www.pollyklaas.org/ https://www.kron4.com/news/father-of-murder-victim-polly-klaas-speaks-after-death-row-executions-halted/ https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/SAN-QUENTIN-Polly-Klaas-murderer-found-2492310.php https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1996-04-17-mn-3000-story.html https://caselaw.findlaw.com/ca-supreme-court/1286985.html Check out our sponsors! Best Fiends Engage your brain with fun puzzles and collect tons of cute characters. Trust me, with over 100 million downloads, this 5-star rated mobile puzzle game is a must play! Download Best Fiends FREE on the Apple App Store or Google Play. That’s FRIENDS without the R – Best Fiends! Care/Of For 50% off your first Care/of order, go to TakeCareOf.com and enter code morbid50 Gabi Take two minutes - right now - to start saving on your car and homeowners insurance. Go to Gabi.com/morbid. And for a limited time, if they can't find you savings on your insurance, you'll get a $10 Amazon gift card.  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:02:07 on to your butees, everybody. Fast in your seat belts. Let's go for a ride. And before we jump into this crazy ass terrible case, we have a couple of business things to attend to. I was trying to come up with a better word than things, but that's the only thing that came to my mind. Yeah. We have a few business things It is hard and I'm fucking tired. So let's talk to you about our live shows Let's do it first. We are going to be at the grammar scene and like fucking four minutes basically Yeah, basically after we record this we're just gonna be on stage. That's wrong But it is but we have a few weeks like it
Starting point is 00:02:44 I'm pooping my pants every day until then Don't worry not my fancy pants nope after the nose after that. We're gonna be in Philly and DC in April we sure are yep and then in May We're heading over to Alabama and I would like to apologize because I left out. Oh, yeah It's not just roll tide yeah. It's not just Roll Tide baby, it's War Eagle. War Eagle. No, War Eagle. Oh, fuck me.
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Starting point is 00:03:37 Yes. Fuck you. Anyways, back to business. Oh, belt is over there. Sorry, I was looking for that belt when I got dressed this morning. Fuck, and there it is in the laundry room. I don't even live here. The laundry room. Sorry, don't edit that out, that was kind of funny.
Starting point is 00:03:52 I sure won't. So yeah, we're going to Alabama, we're going to Nashville. We're going to crime con. We're going to crime con or a window. May is going to be wild, and yeah, guys, come to crime con. Please. It's going to be awesome. It's going to be the titties. Everyone cool is going to be there and yeah guys come to CrimeCon. It's gonna be awesome. It's gonna be the titties. Everyone cool is gonna be there and us and me. All the cool people. All the cool people plus us.
Starting point is 00:04:15 It's worth it. That's it for live shows yeah. Yeah that's it for live shows so far. Wink wink. Wink wink. Nudge nudge. Maybe we have a big announcement tomorrow. And just, you know, stay tuned for that. Day two. And also, if you want to go to CrimeCon, use our code Morbid2020 and you can get some, some shit. I'm not really sure what you get, but like, it's do it, because it'll be great.
Starting point is 00:04:36 You can get some shit. It's like Christmas. You don't know what shit you're getting, but fun you got it and the shit's fucking Mary. The shit's awesome. It's gonna be Mary, yeah. Mary and Brightfuck. It's gonna be, it's gonna be, it's gonna be, it's gonna be, we're gonna be punchy up until the time
Starting point is 00:04:50 when we start this awful case. Yeah, let us get it out now. I just ripped my jeans more than they were on the wrist, because I just put my hand in the rip because you're uncomfortable, because you know what case is coming out. Yeah, and I'm cold. So yeah, all those fun live shows,
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Starting point is 00:06:21 Things are about to get way better. So far better. So hang on tight. And yeah, I think without further ado, I think that was all the business we had to attend to, right? Yeah, let's talk about horrible things. So tonight's case is one that I'm sure a lot of people know about or have at least heard of the case of polyclass. This one's a real, real downer.
Starting point is 00:06:46 It after, I knew this case, but reading it again and like researching thoroughly through it, I felt like very few, I, in this, I don't know if this is gonna make me sound like a terrible person, but after researching cases, like, I'll feel like sometimes I'm like, wow, that was a bummer. Like very few like actually make me feel sick. And like, like, I need to like sometimes I'm like, wow, that was a bummer. Like very few actually make me feel sick. And like, like, I need to step away and hug my kids.
Starting point is 00:07:11 And stuff like, this is one of those. It just really makes you feel sick. 100%. And I think because this is such an invasion of privacy and an invasion of safety and comfort, this whole case, that you'll know when we get to it. So let's start off. This is the first case that really utilized the internet in real time to document the case.
Starting point is 00:07:32 I didn't know that. That's cool. This is the first time when it really really became a thing. So this revolves around Polly Hannah Class. She was born January 3rd, 1981 in Fairfax, California. At the time of this case, she was living with her mother Eve Nichol. Her father is Mark Class.
Starting point is 00:07:52 They had divorced, and her mom was separated from her second husband at the time. By 1993, Mark was living in Sal Solito and running a Hertz car rental company in San Francisco. He was super close to his daughter. Like really good father. They had an awesome relationship. They talked every single day. They spent every weekend together. Like this was just one of those, they, I think it was one of those where the parents were like, we didn't work out, but like we're still good parents.
Starting point is 00:08:22 I mean, like, that's some situations. So in 1993, she was only 12 years old. She lived with her mom and younger sister Annie. They lived in Petaluma, California. Polly was described as loving, sweet, very outgoing, very funny. Like just had a really cool personality. Everyone who describes her is like she was just like a cool kid. Like just a kid you wanted around. She was also like a drama club girl which I was like girl after my own heart. Hey. That's all you man. She loved being in school plays. Like really came alive on stage. She had aspirations of becoming a famous actress when she grew up. Stop it. Yeah. So even her two daughters lived across from a place called Wicker Shampark. I'm not a good place. It was frequented by people passing through from the Greyhound bus station, which people, you know, whenever there's like a big hub of transportation and a tiny town,
Starting point is 00:09:25 it can be sketchy because you're getting all kinds of people from all kinds of places. You don't know what they're all up to. If you don't know if they paid $50 for VIP on a Greyhound bus. Like Ash did. That happened. If they offer VIP. And it's not different. It's not different.
Starting point is 00:09:42 You still sit near the bathroom. Lesson learned. Lesson learned. Yeah. Well, this one that Wikashan Park was home to a lot of like, you know, transients, a lot of nefarious characters were in there. Okay. Um, people went in there to, you know, get super drunk, say old drugs, you know, you know, there was a lot of OD happening in there. It just wasn't a place where you wanted to be walking through at night, kind of thing, or ever, or really ever. And it was right across from Eve and Holly
Starting point is 00:10:12 and Annie's home. Okay. Well, October 1st, 1993. So this was before you were even born. You sure was. That's crazy. Sometimes I say that. I'm like, oh my god, I wasn't even born yet,
Starting point is 00:10:23 but I don't feel joky about this case. And that's it just like blew my mind for a second. I'm like, oh my god, I wasn't even born yet, but I don't feel joky about this case. No, it just blew my mind for a second. I was like, wow. Whenever I realized that you weren't born during these things, they're like, oh, I'm like, damn. That time period sucked because Ash wasn't here. Because she wasn't here on Earth. Paulie and her friends, Jillian Pelham and Kate McLean
Starting point is 00:10:39 had planned to have a little sleepover party at Paulie's house. You know, as you did when you're 12. I used to fucking love sleepovers. That love sleepovers. That night, Polly and her friend, so Gillian came earlier. I think she came around like seven o'clock, so they were hanging out first. Then they waited around and Kate was dropped off
Starting point is 00:10:57 by her mom sometime between like eight and eight thirty. So at around nine forty five pm, the girls were like already like well into their sleep into their sleepover mode, like giggling, doing all kinds of fun. What you do at sleepovers? Yeah, hell yeah. But as we was 9.45, Polly's mom told them she was getting ready to go to bed with Annie. She was going to have Annie sleep in the bed with her.
Starting point is 00:11:20 And she said, you know, could you guys just be a little bit quieter? Because she had a raging migraine? Oh, for her. Yeah, that sucks. I feel you girl. Yeah. I woke up this morning with a migraine, so. I knew that was gonna happen. I thought that to drown. Yeah, and but luckily, you know what, everybody. Accadruin migraine. I got prescribed medication for my migraines, and Accadruin migraine works better. That's insane.
Starting point is 00:11:42 Yeah, I don't know what it is. Sponsor us. I think it just like, different strokes insane. Yeah, I don't know what it is. Sponsor us. I think it's just like different strokes for different folks, I guess, but my, like, I'm off topic, but I'm sorry. I know a lot of people on migraines that listen. Yeah, we're just trying to reach out to you. I'm just trying to reach out to you. But I know, like, my prescription migraine stuff made me feel like really, like, loopy and
Starting point is 00:12:00 drunk. I like that. Accadren Migraine doesn't do that. Accadren Migraine doesn't do that, but it always takes care if I, if I catch it. And I did because look, I'm talking to you and I'm not wanting to like drill a hole through my head. That makes me happy for you. Me too. Hi, I'm Lindsey Graham, the host of Wondery's podcast American Scandal. We bring to life some of the biggest controversies in U.S. history, presidential lies, environmental disasters, corporate fraud.
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Starting point is 00:14:43 prescribed this So the girls were doing the typical sleep over shit. They're playing video games and because Halloween was coming up It was October 1st. They were trying out different makeup looks on each other. Oh my god fun So they all had makeup on like making up like different like monster faces and like, you know, glam girl faces. Yeah So so around I don't remember exactly what time it was. I believe it was sometime around like 10 30-ish in that hour. Polly opens her bedroom door because she's like, oh, I'm going to go get the slumber bags, the sleeping bags for all of us. So she opens the door.
Starting point is 00:15:19 And when she opens that door, a large man is standing in front of her bedroom door. Now, this is an outside. This is in her bedroom door. Like large man is standing in front of her bedroom door. Now this is an outside. This is her bedroom door like she the hallway. She puts her bedroom door in a man is standing in the hallway right outside her bedroom door which is directly across from her mother's door. It's the most terrifying thing I've ever heard in my life. It gives me like heartburn. Because I'm picturing me opening my bedroom door. I just think I'm like, this man just walked into this house. Anybody that waltzes into your house, like,
Starting point is 00:15:48 you don't want to fuck with them. Not good. And that's it. All of, I'm sure I've mentioned this before. But like, all of my criminal justice professors in college were all like, because most of them were like detectives or cops or some sort. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:00 And they all said, if someone breaks into your house in the middle of the night, do not go downstairs and confront them. No, you stay in a room, you call 911 upstairs and you wait until they leave because they don't want to meet that person. Any mother fucker who breaks into a home that they have no idea what, what or who is in that house, that's a crazy mother fucker and you do not want to deal with them. And it's the best advice I ever got. It's true because my house, we have like a lock
Starting point is 00:16:26 so nobody can get up to the second floor. And it is the greatest thing we ever did because it makes me feel so much more. What I have a home someday. I want that. It makes me feel so much better because I'm like, fuck that. Yeah, fuck that's so hard.
Starting point is 00:16:38 So this man is standing in the hallway. He had a large butcher knife in his hand and a duffle bag. Oh my God. He immediately told them all, if any of you scream, I will slit your throats. So he said everybody be quiet. So they all just were like, holy shit. Because you can you imagine? No. You're 12. You're at a sleepover. No. So immediately the other girls think this must be like a prank or something. Because it like a Halloween time. Maybe like this is somebody that Paulie knows
Starting point is 00:17:04 and they thought it would be funny. They said they did not think this was a funny prank, but they thought it was a prank last. So he started, they quickly were like, oh, this is not a prank because he quickly started tying all of their hands behind their backs with silky material that he had torn in the cords like wires that he cut from the Nintendo wires in the room. Oh my God. Yeah. Because he used the butcher knife and sliced off the wires.
Starting point is 00:17:29 Jesus. And he keeps telling them, right? Like, fuck you, man. Eat a dick. Yeah. And so he keeps telling them all to be quiet, stay quiet. I'm not going to hurt anybody. I was like, then what do you hear for, bro?
Starting point is 00:17:43 And well, and that's so he's saying, he's saying, you know, whose house is this? Is anyone else in the house? So Polly is like, it's my house and my mom and my sister in the house. And he seemed very like, I think, from what I've read, he was like, what, someone else is in the house?
Starting point is 00:17:58 And I'm like, yeah, brah. These are like three, like 12 year olds. You really think they're in the house all by themselves? Like you're not fucking dumb. Right. With Spoiler Alert, he is.'re in the house all by themselves. Like you're that fucking dumb. Right. With spoiler alert, he is. So the girls are all like crying at this point
Starting point is 00:18:10 because again, they're 12 year olds. Because there's a baby. It's scary as fuck. These are 12 year old babies. And he's trying to tell them no one's gonna get hurt here. I just want money. So he's saying, I'm not gonna hurt any of you. I just want money.
Starting point is 00:18:22 So then he duct taped all of their mouths. Oh my god. And like gagged them with like fabric like behind the duct tape. He's Christ. And he was like, I don't want anyone making sounds. He took their own pillowcases off their pillows and placed them over Jillian and Kate's heads. Then he said he had them lay down. And he said, count to a thousand because I'm going to take Paulie out of here to show me where the valuables and money are. And by the time you count to a thousand, she'm gonna take poly out of here to show me where the valuables and money are and by the time you count to a thousand she'll be back in the room and I will be gone and that's not true and they were like and so of course they're like okay like we're gonna do it so they started counting they said like 20 minutes later they were still sitting there like in fear Polly never came back in the room so so they managed to free themselves, which is like badass.
Starting point is 00:19:05 Amazing. They free themselves, they run around the house and Polly's nowhere and they're like, fuck. So they run into Eve's room and wake her up frantically. Which first of all, being woken up that way, anyways, would be them, is like very jarring and awful. Like having a migraine and then hearing your child was nowhere to be found and a man came in and took her. And you were literally just across the hall
Starting point is 00:19:30 and had like no idea. Like thinking about this. I can't say it. I honestly, anytime I think about being an Eve situation, I immediately feel like I have to like walk out of the room and just like get fresh air. Like it like physically affects me.
Starting point is 00:19:45 It affects me. Like I feel for her so much. Like so much. Because you have kids too. I think things like this are so different. Like it's horrifying. Not the last bit. When you have kids, it makes it so different.
Starting point is 00:19:56 Oh, it's so different, I bet. Yeah, it takes a do a whole nother level. Because I am the first thing I think of is if an intruder was in my house. It's not how do I get us out of here. It's how do I get the girls out of the house? Right. It's I don't give a shit about me.
Starting point is 00:20:09 I want the girls safe. Yeah. I would put them on the roof if I had to. Like, that's the first plan I come up with is how do I get to the girls? Yeah. And I always have a fucking plan. She really does. I've heard many of them.
Starting point is 00:20:21 I do. So Eve called the police at 11.03 p.m. and they showed up immediately. That's good. They noticed that the video game cords are all cut. Things are kind of like thrown everywhere. Well, that's still like pretty early. It is.
Starting point is 00:20:34 It's really mean. Like you don't think things like that happen at like 10.30 at night. Right. So it's pretty, isn't it 10.30 right now? It pretty much is close to. So the lead investigator on the case was Ed Friar He said that right away he could tell this was a stranger abduction, right?
Starting point is 00:20:52 And he said those are much more rare and they are way harder to track and At least if it's someone that knows the family or some kind of connection you have that little thread Right, but when it's a stranger abduction, what do you have to go on? Not only do you have nothing to go on, it's like, what the fuck's gonna happen here? Like, it's always so much worse. So when it's somebody they don't know. Because again, anybody walks into your house
Starting point is 00:21:16 and steals someone out of your house. That's a fucking crazy person, and you need to get that person back right now. So because he wasn't wearing a mask, the investigators brought Kate and Jillian in and were like, can you please give us a description? Of course, the girls are like hysterical. They've just been through fucking hell.
Starting point is 00:21:32 They're traumatized. But you know what, those little bad asses gave the best they could and they got a really good sketch of them. Good. Because they paid attention. So an APB went out and all points to Bolton. There was extensive searches immediately of all the homes in the area. A helicopter was circling. There were canine units.
Starting point is 00:21:52 I mean, it was like mass search. Everybody dropped what they were doing to do this. Yeah, this was one of those cases where like the entire nation came together for this case. And it's like, so when there's a stranger abduction at all, but it's because that's really a stranger abduction out of a home, that's something that the FBI and local law enforcement are really going to put like their full, like the FBI is going to come in. They're going to put everything together, they're going to work together and they're going to get, I mean, they had the Navy, the Coast Guard working on this. It's like they did not fuck around.
Starting point is 00:22:25 So, if, and the problem is time is always of the essence in these cases, because unfortunately, if someone isn't found within the first 24 hours in like a child stranger abduction, the expectation that they'll be found alive or at all diminishes greatly. That's so sad. Yeah, and it's like, imagine being the parents knowing that you have 24 hours. Yeah, you know the statistics.
Starting point is 00:22:49 You know that after 24 hours, it can happen, but it's like the parts of rare. That's our like, yeah. So unfortunately, what happened though is that the APB that went out was initially marked not for press release, which meant that it wouldn't go out over all the police scanners because reporters listen to police scanners Right, and they marked it as not for press release so that meant they wouldn't go out on all the police scanners Oh shit, so all the police in the area were not informed of this. Oh, no
Starting point is 00:23:20 So there were other deputies and like other like surrounding areas that had no idea that this was happening that night right and Unfortunately when you hear what happened that's how it happened. It really fucked this case up. Oh I don't know if it would have stopped what happened, but it I think he would have been caught he would have been caught that night Yeah, now immediately the entire world is looking for her. I mean, there were like, there were, you know, TV shows had her on there. The news, magazines, newspapers, she was like everywhere. They ended up bringing in like some like crazy
Starting point is 00:23:57 forensics company to go over the scene again. And this company was able to find a pimpprint on her bed. Oh, wow. That was probably like when he was getting the pillowcases off the bed. Right. He had not his whole hand, but his pomeprint. Unfortunately, it was 1993 and a pomeprint database was not going to help you out. Meanwhile, volunteers were scanning every bit of everywhere in Petaluma and the outskirts. The Navy, like I said, the Coast Guard,
Starting point is 00:24:25 they had cadets searching their waterways. There were literally hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people actively just jumping into this. I love that. Over 100,000 flyers with her face on them were distributed like within a first day or two. Wow. Yeah, they had them everywhere.
Starting point is 00:24:41 And it was like, it was the missing poster. It had her face on it. It had later on. It had like the sketch of him on it. Now, Petaluma police spoke to police teachers, students, everybody at the schools. Just asking like, did you see anything? Have you ever seen someone lurking around?
Starting point is 00:24:59 Have you, like, was anything weird at all? Because they have nothing. Right. You're just fucking looking for anything. Literally, they're just grasping into the air. They talk to a lot of the neighbors to around their house. And a lot of the neighbors said immediately that night,
Starting point is 00:25:13 they said they noticed a man in dark clothing with bushy hair and possibly carrying a bag. And he was like skulking around the neighborhood that night. Yeah. And when they looked at the sketch, it did match the sketch. Okay. So this kid, he was this little boy. I don't remember, I don't think they announced how old he was.
Starting point is 00:25:31 He was with two other friends and he said that night that she was abducted at around 9 p.m. He and his friends were walking to the video store. They walked by her house. He said at 9 p.m. he recalled seeing a strange man standing outside of Paulie's home and he was standing in like the shadows. Oh, I hate that. He said he had dorsi hair dark clothing and it looked like he was carrying a bag. Now they were like,
Starting point is 00:25:55 that's weird, but what the fuck are we gonna do about it? He was like, that's weird. So they were like, all right, we're just gonna go to the video store. They went to the video store. They're walking back. He hasn't moved. Oh, oh, I hate that. So they were like, that's weird. So now they're like, okay, tell me exactly what he looked like. And they didn't show him the sketch that they got from the girls.
Starting point is 00:26:17 They were like, just tell me what he looked like. He described exactly. To a T. It was him. So they set up like the Poly class search center that was like her father ended up taking like time off of work like a leave of absence. Yeah. They set up a hotline for tips and a lot of people were calling the hotline that were parents of other missing children trying to like give their like tips and also trying to get help for their thing too.
Starting point is 00:26:45 Right. So it was like kind of bringing everyone together like especially these all these parents with missing children. Yeah. Yeah. That's a club you do not want to be in. No. Not at all.
Starting point is 00:26:55 No thank you. But you really need so badly other people to like because nobody understands that. No. Nobody. I don't. Nobody wants to understand that. You can like you can try to fathom it in your brain, but I can't you can't even get close to it It's hard to even fathom like you don't even want it. Oh God. I
Starting point is 00:27:13 It's honestly like bringing your brain there bringing my brain. It's so dark It's like really dangerous My brain there because it feels like you have to like break you. Yeah, it would about it So people magazine actually put her on the cover, in the case on the cover, and dubbed her America's child because the nation was coming together. Yeah. The internet was going crazy.
Starting point is 00:27:34 There were updates everywhere. They used some more forensic work, which was still in the early stages in 1993. Right, right. So this was the first case that brought like a lot of things together. And they ended up finding in police carpet. They found a little tiny fiber that didn't match any of the other fibers. Wow.
Starting point is 00:27:55 And it seemed like it came from a car in the, and they looked at all the car carpets in the family and it didn't match any of them. Okay. So they were thinking maybe it came from somewhere this guy stepped. Because fibers can be beneficial in like linking, you know. Yeah, sure. They also found a human hair that had been taken out of somebody's head. The hair had a tiny bit of scalp left on it.
Starting point is 00:28:17 Yeah. Which happens when you pull hair out of your hair. Directly out of your hair. Like not just like, dink, but like when somebody is yanked out of somebody's head. Right. Unfortunately, because it was 1993, DNA was not, and it's heyday at this point, so they really couldn't do a lot with it. Oh, that's just the genetic. That they found these things, and we're like actively looking for these things, is pretty impressive. And at least put them away, because eventually, if they were just hot and gone,
Starting point is 00:28:40 or it's solved, whatever. Exactly, that's the thing. So meanwhile, Mark Klass, like I said, he had taken a leave of absence from his job to just work on this search full time. Right. This guy named David Collins was also was another father of another missing child. Yeah. His son, Kevin, had gone missing in 1984.
Starting point is 00:29:02 And he was actually one of the first kids missing kids to be put on a milk carton. Oh, wow. Yeah. And he reached out and tried to like aid in this whole thing because like this is what started happening, like these other parents of missing children were like, if I can't find my own child, I want to help someone else.
Starting point is 00:29:20 Yeah. You know, like they just need to help. Which I think is so cool. It's like you're, that's like very beautiful. You're like grieving and like having to deal with your own trauma and you're seeing it and someone else and being like, I want to help you. Yeah. Like that's badass. And that takes a lot. It really does. Cause like, how do you put your own shit aside? How do you even muster that like energy to do that? At the time, because again, they're not, they have nothing.
Starting point is 00:29:44 Right. Go on, still. They're still just looking at this sketch, and that's it. Right. At the time, Winona Ryder actually came out and she was girl. She was. She was. I love Winona Ryder too. I know she's got like, and she's got like, I got them too.
Starting point is 00:29:59 But she's like the comeback kid. She is. She is. She is. I love her. And she looks great. Phenomenal. Like, get She is. I love her. And she looks great. Funominable. Like get it Winona sister. So Winona rider, our queen, offered $200,000 as a reward for her return. Wow. Yeah. And when she came out and did that, like really brought more focus to it because you know, even these cases that are like everywhere in the whole nation is on top of it.
Starting point is 00:30:23 They start to peter out. Yeah, of course, starting happening in the attention wanes. So she came out just in the nick of time to like really bring back put it back on the hot burner. And this is when it got put on like America's most wanted with John Walsh and like, I love that show. Oh, we're going to and you know what? I say we don't like covering child. We have to do that one right now. But we don't like covering child things that we're covering one right now,
Starting point is 00:30:45 but the important ones, I mean they're all important. The ones that I'm able to get through and that I really need feel like I need to tell will do and Adam Walsh is definitely 100%. Mainly because it also ties into like, audis tool and Henry Lucas and all that. So we'll get to that one just so you know. So Mark was given a polygraph test. Okay. Because of course the FBI, you know, he's got
Starting point is 00:31:10 to go. He's the dad. Right. He passed with flying colors, but again, what a great test is. So it's bullshit. Right. Not that I'm saying it's a bullshit that he passed. It's just like, why do you even do it? Right. And the FBI was actually starting to get kind of lost on leads at this point. Like they were like just grasping its draws. Yeah. So Mark actually during this time also got a call from a girl who sounded like Paulie.
Starting point is 00:31:37 Oh God stop. The girl said she was in a hotel room and didn't know where she was, but her kidnapper had left the room. Oh my God. So he lost his fucking mind because then the line went dead. She was in a hotel room and didn't know where she was, but her kidnapper had left the room. Oh my God. So he lost his fucking mind because then the line went dead. Wait, I don't know if this is real or not.
Starting point is 00:31:51 What? Like was it Polly? Well, so they couldn't trace it because they weren't expecting this call. Right. Obviously. So the FBI is like, fuck, she's going to call again. We got to get, hopefully she'll call again. We'll get a trace.
Starting point is 00:32:02 Right, right, right. So they waited, waited, waited. Another call came. Okay. Same girl. She was super anxious, said she couldn't talk. Sounded scared, sounded just like Polly. Okay. And they traced it to a home about 30 miles away.
Starting point is 00:32:18 They go there, turned out to be some fucking piece of shit teenage girl. Are you kidding me? Scared by her fucking piece of shit teenage girl. Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me?
Starting point is 00:32:29 Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me?
Starting point is 00:32:36 Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me?
Starting point is 00:32:44 Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? Are you is. How do you think that? Like what? And then too, can you imagine being despicable enough to go, sure friends, I'll do that. And to do it twice. Like how did this little group of turd fucks get together in the first place? Ew, what the fuck? Like that pissed me off so much. That is not just like,
Starting point is 00:32:56 because people will be like, oh, teens are stupid. It's like, no, that's not teenager. That's a big favor. Like, I never want to know where that girl is now and what she's doing, because I, but it's nothing special. Because it's like never once did I think that would I ever think that was funny.
Starting point is 00:33:09 Well, you used to prank call people and be like, is your refrigerator gonna go get you? Like, no. Yeah, it's like, you prank call people like, do you like cheese? You know what I mean? You don't, you don't, you be like, what? Do you like cheese?
Starting point is 00:33:22 It's like, you do stupid stuff. You don't call it grieving father and pretend to be this daughter was kidnapped out of his house. That's disgusting. Terrific. I'm trying to think about her today. So that's a few pieces of human garbage everywhere in this story. So they brought back N. Jillian and Kate, the two friends from the sleepover at this time. And they were like, okay, now that you've, like, we've had some time away from it happening, can we try to go over again what he looked like? Right.
Starting point is 00:33:53 They ended up getting an even better sketch of this, too. And they also, I think they also, like, the person who was drawing it was really, really good, too, because this photo, I'll post it on the Instagram, is a really good photo. And it really was like, it like saying what people can do. Sketch artists, a snap at me, that you can say like, I'm like are you some kind of psychic? Like I'd really have something because just and you they have to go with like a frantic person you yeah emotional person normally telling them like and his eyes were kind of big right and they just have to like go by that right I'd be, I don't know how to draw that.
Starting point is 00:34:26 I have no fucking idea. Yeah, I ball. I don't know. Um, so the this new photo went on the missing poster with the $200,000 reward. Okay. Um, so during all of this, the FBI is still just, you know, grasp in its draws. So they were positing, you know, did she run off with a boyfriend?
Starting point is 00:34:43 No. Did she do this? Did she do that? Meanwhile, she was 12 years old did she run off with a boyfriend? No. Did she do this? Did she do that? Meanwhile, she was 12 years old and she had never had a boyfriend. And she was out of sleep over with her two friends. Well, it's like, and then there's also the fact that her two friends were involved with the whole thing. Like tied up as well and watched the whole thing. Right.
Starting point is 00:34:59 Right. But in that pistol, a lot of people off because they were like, what are you doing even thinking of this? Yeah, like that you're wasting time. So November 28th, 1993. This is a couple months after the abduction. Yeah. A woman named Dana Jaffy.
Starting point is 00:35:14 She was outside on her property about 20 miles away from Petaluma. OK. She called police saying she found some like weird shit on her property. And she didn't want to touch it. She just wanted them to come down and see it. So she never touched it. No, she was like, I'm not touching that shit. Good for you, Dana. So she had a really big giant private property. It had a long, long, long driveway,
Starting point is 00:35:37 lots of wooded area, lots of dirt paths, like a really fancy place. So she was rich as fuck. She was. So they brought her, she brought police down a dirt path That was off her driveway and like way in the woods and she showed them that she had found a piece of silk Mm-hmm a pillowcase with makeup smudges on the inside of it packing tape a condom a man's sweatshirt and a pair of girls tights These girls tights were tied and a knot and a human hair was in the knot. Oh.
Starting point is 00:36:09 So she's like, this is weird, right? She's like, I don't want this on my property, right? She looks strange. I don't really think I've just accumulated this over any time. So she said, so they were like, what the fuck? Like, has anyone been on your property? And she was like, oh yeah, I did have someone trespass on my property. And she was like, oh yeah, I did have someone trespass on my property.
Starting point is 00:36:26 And she was like, and I contacted the police. Why do you not have this on file? Are you afraid they were like me? Wait a second, what? So they look, she did contact police, it was on file. But we'll see why they didn't connect this initially. God damn it. So it was about two months earlier on October 1st.
Starting point is 00:36:43 No. That she had a man dress press on her property. So what happened was that night, her babysitter, because she had a daughter, the babysitter was leaving her house and she was going down the really long driveway. It was really dark. And she saw a man in his car stuck on the side of the driveway. Again, I say it's a really long drive
Starting point is 00:37:07 way. Right. He was stuck in like a little ditch. So he's like, what the fuck? So she rolled her window down just a little bit. Yeah. Just like a tiny little thing just to be like, uh, what the fuck do you do? Uh, like this is private property. You're not supposed to be on here. Um, and she said he turned around and looked at her and she said he looked crazed. Oh. Like sweaty, dirty panic. Oh my god, I would be terrified. Yeah and she was like, what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:37:32 And so he's like, I need you to help me get this car out. And she was like, nope. No. I am like super booked for the rest of the evening. Yeah. She was like, I've got a nail appointment now. I'm on your appointment. I have to wash my dog.
Starting point is 00:37:46 I just got to get out of here because you are a sweaty dirty mess and you look like a fucking waltz man. I'm not helping you. Yeah, I'm out of here. I know I'm driving, but also my uber seer. So bye bye. So bye. Gotta keep the fives start rating, boom.
Starting point is 00:37:57 Well, and he's, so he's like, I need your help. And he actually walked over to her car and slammed his hands on like the roof of the car. Stop it. And then he was like, what's up that driveway? And she was like, what the fuck? So she's like, nope. And she was like, I'm calling the police. So she drives away. She goes to a pay phone and she calls, she calls Dana at around 11, 24 pm. So she's like, she tells Dana what the fuck just happened. Yeah. So Dana grabs a baseball bat,
Starting point is 00:38:28 drives down her driveway to see what's going on, which I don't recommend. No, but like bad bitch. Like bad bitch Dana, but like real dangerous. So how the different outcomes see it? Like you know what Dana just called. You just hear all the times I started. I was like girl, I'll just have some of the things. That's what I just said. Direct translation. Direct translation is from our whole world. I am broken.
Starting point is 00:38:52 I am broken. So she drives down there with a huge baseball bat. Wolf. And she saw the car, but she didn't see the guy. So she was like, oh, well, that's weird. So she drives a little off the property out of the driveway. And she calls the police around 11.46 pm. They came, they searched, they find the dude with his car.
Starting point is 00:39:13 No. He's sweaty, he's dirty, he's wild as fuck, just like they said he was. He's out here wild. He seemed drunk. They could smell alcohol on him and he had leaves in shit in his hair. Like, yeah, that's a fucking rat. Not normal. And he told them, and when they pulled up, he was just sitting there like smoking, like leaning on his car.
Starting point is 00:39:32 He's like, I'm just a real cat. And on this private property. So they're like, yeah, whatcha doing? And he was like, oh, I was just sightseeing and didn't know this was private property. They're like, they're like midnight. So what the fuck are you seeing? And they're like, yeah, bro, you look like you're just sightseeing like you're covered in dirt. Right. But okay. Um, you sightseeing the dirt up close.
Starting point is 00:39:51 Yeah. So he said he realized that it was private property suddenly. He tried to leave, but his car got stuck in the ditch. So they were like, okay, well that's weird. So they gave him a sobriety test. He passed it. We're good enough. Yeah. Um, they looked in his car. It they gave him a sobriety test. He passed it, weren't they enough? Yeah. They looked in his car. It was covered in like empty beer cans, full beer cans, a bunch of clothes, just like weird shit. They noticed a duffel bag.
Starting point is 00:40:14 Now remember, the APDB originally went out not to be released to press. Right. Meaning it didn't go out on the scanner to other officers. Meaning these officers. This means these two sheriff's deputies that showed up had no idea that they should be looking
Starting point is 00:40:31 for an abducted little girl or a guy that looked exactly like this guy. So otherwise, they may have known that night. And they may have, when we see what actually happened, they wouldn't have been able to save her. I don't think that's so sad. But they would have found her. Right, quick.
Starting point is 00:40:50 And they would have been able to arrest him quick. That breaks my fucking heart, dude, that they could have found her that night. And she was actually just kind of at least known. Right. So the dude was starting to get belligerent. They asked if he had been drinking that evening and he grabbed a beer, opened it,
Starting point is 00:41:04 and just started drinking in front of them. Oh. So they took it and they were like, no, fucker. So they patten them down. He was, you know, they didn't find anything. They went back and they ran his license and his registration. Uh huh.
Starting point is 00:41:19 No warrant came up. Okay. His name was Richard Allen Davis and he was 39 years old Now Richard Allen Davis had served time in prison recently. Oh good Hey, California men's colony in San Louis a bit it's in Louis of Bizbo Look it up look it up right now. I'm looking it up There you have it That lady doesn't why okay and it's in Louis of his bow so he was in the California men's colony in that place
Starting point is 00:42:03 Kidnapping and robbery who He was originally sentenced to 16 years, but only served eight before he was a perolled June 27th, 1993. Oh, shit. Well, the reason this came up clean with no warrants was because the officer accidentally entered the numbers wrong. Oh, goody. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:21 The car had recently been purchased from a friend of Richard Allen Davis. So the name was not yet in the system of registration, all that good stuff. Now, if everything had gone the way it should have, and the technology was there at the time to connect warrants and all that good stuff, they would have seen that he had quite a record.
Starting point is 00:42:42 Oh, good. And if he had been detained, they may have also been able to ascertain that he had quite a record. Oh, good. And if he had been detained, they may have also been able to ascertain that he showed signs of this behavior his entire life. Oh, shit. This dude is one of those guys that slipped through the cracks a lot of times. And he never should have been able to get to this point. It was a lot of failures along the way that led him to this point. He grew up on a Native American reservation with his Native American mother Evelyn and his Caucasian father Bob Davis.
Starting point is 00:43:10 Both of them were raging alcoholics. And when I say not great parents, I mean a bismal parents. The worst. Yeah, he had four other siblings and his parents divorced when he was 11 years old. His father actually got full custody, which is always shocking when the phone, I'm not saying they don't deserve it, but usually courts hand over to the mother most of the time. Even now, unless it's gotta be real bad.
Starting point is 00:43:35 Yeah, especially back then for the Montenaukka custody, I feel like it had to have been real. Exactly. And it was something along the lines in the court papers because of the mother's alleged immoral conduct in front of the children. Oh, yeah. She would allegedly hold his hand to people. Two witnesses have said they saw her, hold his hand over an open flame to punish him for minor things. Oh, God. And they said one of those times, his hand could be seen blistering. Oh, stop. They also said one of those times his hand could be seen blistering. Oh stop. They also said one of those times It was clear that he had become so accustomed to this that he just stood there What the fuck and like nothing registered on his face?
Starting point is 00:44:15 Well his hand was being burned. How do you sit there with your child and do that to them? How do you hold your child? First of all to harm your child in any way? Nothing ever makes sense to me about that. I think we've made that pretty clear that we do not even begin to live in that realm of reality. But first of all, when you have a kid, the first time, I remember I accidentally snipped Lenin's tip of her finger
Starting point is 00:44:43 when I was cutting her nails when she was like a baby. I knew you probably wanted to jump off a cliff. First of all, I immediately started sobbing, like sobbing, like full body heaving, sobbing, because when you see your child bleed, it is, I can't even describe to you the feeling and then you're knowing she did not even care. I don't even think she noticed, but fingers bleed so much. Yeah, it was a
Starting point is 00:45:05 really terrible. I'm trying to stop it and I'm calling John being like, I'm a horrible mother. I just did this. It was awful. I know I'll say no to them and I'm like, fuck, I'm an asshole. I'm so amused. I am the worst aunt. Shit. And just seeing blood on your child, but so it's like watching your child's hand blister and burn because you're holding it over and you gotta be fucked on the upper echelon of evil to do that. So, I mean, that's the kind of shit he was dealing with. He, and when he became an adult, he referred to his mother as that gutter-snip dog bitch.
Starting point is 00:45:47 Him and I have that in common. Yes. I also referred to my mother. That cutter-snip dog even him have that in common. It's so fucked up. I feel like even I wouldn't say that. No, I feel that's real rough. That's rough.
Starting point is 00:45:59 But still, that was funny. You got to have a little levity in some of these parts. Put them in gutter-snip dog dogbitches where the levity lies. So I believe. Well, so basically his parents were never around. And when they were around, they were ship bags. Again, just don't have kids. If you're going to be a ship bag, the thing.
Starting point is 00:46:16 That's the thing. You're creating other ship bags. If you want to be a ship bag for yourself, yeah, go be a ship bag. Go be a ship bag in another itself. Just go be a ship bag on your own. Don't raise other ship bags. So he started getting in trouble super early I he first had his first run in with a lot 12 years old. Oh wow. What happened?
Starting point is 00:46:32 I believe he was like stealing like mail out of people's mailboxes like he was stealing looking for checks That's pretty weird stealing them. Oh shit intense at 12. Yeah He started getting in tons of trouble. His parole records all pointed at the seriously unstable home life as probably the thing that was causing his behavior. Right. But nothing was being done about it, of course.
Starting point is 00:46:56 He also enjoyed at this time torturing and killing animals, which, as we know, is... No way, you know. It's never a sign of anything bad, right? It's always sign all murders to come so he dropped out of school in the ninth grade Oh, and just started binge drinking and just being an asshole good because you know that's a goodie so many times I can't like oh goodie. Oh fun. He would get arrested constantly for burglarizing homes robbing He liked to steal a lot. That was his thing, you know Public drunkenness just being an asshole. Yeah, asshole, asshole, I just keep saying it.
Starting point is 00:47:30 So, in 1974, he was 21 years old. He was sentenced to six months, for six months, to 15 years. That's a casual way to go. Quite a gap for attempted burglary. He only served one year of that sentence and then was paroled Okay, seven weeks after getting out of prison. He literally kidnapped a woman at knife point. Jesus And I'm sorry how old was he 21 years old Jesus Christ. Yeah, he grabbed her from a random parking lot forced her into the passenger seat of her own car And then drove her to a secluded area. He then whipped out his penis and basically told her, you know what I want you to do. What the fuck? While he's holding a knife to her face. Oh my god. So you know what she did? Bid it. No, but that's intense. No, she did something similarly as intense though. She grabbed the knife blade with her own hand held it while opening the door behind her and kicking it open and then
Starting point is 00:48:28 Run out of the car screaming. Oh my god bad bitch alert like bitch grabbed the knife blade. That is so bad ass That's wicked bad. That is such a movie preservation shit like to just because you every single one of your instincts says don't grab Of knife blade. Yeah, so for her to be able to override But if you're gonna get a flight A fucking cut versus good for her break to Well, she got away because luckily a highway patrol officer was driving by at that exact moment My god, and he arrested Davis So the asshole tried to hang himself in prison this time. Unfortunately, he did not succeed
Starting point is 00:49:02 It's bummer to work. Yeah, because if he had actually succeeded, he wouldn't have been able to do this. And we wouldn't, you know, polyclass his family wouldn't have had to go through this bullshit. Exactly. So after the suicide attempt, he was sent to a psychiatric hospital. He escaped that place. Shit. It's always so scary when they're like, I know. I know.
Starting point is 00:49:23 Yeah, because it's like, it adds like a whole different thing to their fucking personality. It really does. Immediately after escaping, he went on like a crime spree. Of course. He broke into a woman's home at one point. When she caught him, he slammed her over the head with a fireplace poker. Oh, fuck. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:39 He broke into an animal shelter. He stole money, guns, and bullets from there, which I was like, why is that an animal shelter? But I don't know. It's, do you? Right after this, he tried to kidnap a woman in a parking lot again, using a gun that he had stolen. Oh, that's scary. But she was screaming and she got away. Then he went back to his hometown of La Honda, California, and he burglarized a home again. Damn. When the police were called, they found him hiding in the backyard of the home. In the backyard? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:08 Like just keep running. Like, yeah. Just keep going. Yeah. That's how dumb he is. You stupid. So he was originally, he was immediately arrested and charged
Starting point is 00:50:17 for attempted kidnapping, assault, just burglary, all of the effects. He's just a host of shit. The maximum time he could be set for these crimes that they could actually like charge him with was six years. Wow. He served six years and then was paroled in March 1982
Starting point is 00:50:35 because at this time in California, it was like you serve your sentence you're paroled automatically. That's it. So even the judge though, didn't want to let him out but he had to his hands were tied. Because he said this dude shows no remorse for what he's done. Like he was worried. He was like, I don't want to send him back. And he even at one point was like, don't you feel bad for what you've done at all? And he was like, no. And then he even said he was like, if I feel bad about what I've done. I wouldn't have done that. Why would I keep doing it? Yeah, right. Like he clearly was like, yeah, I don't give a fuck. So they let him out.
Starting point is 00:51:07 That's so scary. He let out. He was let out. And one night he met a woman named Sue Edwards at a dive bar. And love was in the air. Oh, yeah. So he met her when she was dealing meth at the bar.
Starting point is 00:51:20 You know, that really gets the boys going. Taylor's old this time. It's like, my meth guard brings all the boys to the yard. My meth lab brings gets the boys going. Taylor's old this time. It's like my meth yard brings all the boys to the yard. My meth lab brings all the boys to the yard. Yeah, I was having a trouble with that. I was having a trouble. So together, you know, they robbed someone that they both knew because that's what you do in a new relationship. You find out who you both know and you rob that person. That's how you and John decided to get me to get me. We were like, who do we have as a connection
Starting point is 00:51:46 between both of us? And then we've robbed that person. Annie and I haven't done that yet. That's why we're not married. But you know what, next level shit is coming. Bonnie and Clyde shit, let's get it. That's just next level shit. So let's see, they, so they rubbed this woman they knew.
Starting point is 00:52:01 Davis, while they were rubbing her, Davis pistol whipped her in the head. Oh my God. And threatened to kill her whole family if she didn't listen to what they were robbing her, Davis pistol whipped her. Oh my God. And threatened to kill her whole family if she didn't listen to what they were saying. So he's really awesome. They then ran up to Washington State together, robbed a bank. A bank? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:15 Robbed some more banks and stores. Like they went on a literal like bonding, Clyde spree. Wow. And we're eventually pulled over and arrested. He got the maximum 16 years in prison. This is when he was sent to California men's colony. So this is bringing us up to when he got out. Paulie, sorry.
Starting point is 00:52:33 And again, he was released due to prison overcrowding. He was released only eight years into his 16. Built another prison then. I don't know. That was like a real problem back then. I mean, it still is. But it became a real problem But let's put some more we can't just like release people cuz we can't just let all like the really bad guys
Starting point is 00:52:50 So it's fine. I mean if we're gonna be real about it There's people better in prisons that like for like minor drug offenses Exactly like non-violent. So let them go. I think that's that's the way to go because this dude Belongs in prison. It's like, you keep doing it. We won't do it. We won't do it. So because they entered the registration wrong and the criminal history didn't show
Starting point is 00:53:14 up because at that time things all weren't as connected as they were now. Yeah. Like there were limitations in the commuter system. The officers were like, all right, well nothing came up. So the officers, and again, they didn't get the APB, so they don't know, you know, maybe we should look into this guy a little more. Any past the sobriety test. Yeah, so there's really nothing to do. It was just like, this is a weird dude. We should get him out. So they brought him back to the freeway and were like, by sir.
Starting point is 00:53:38 Wow. Well, now that like, so now, this is bringing it back to like November 28th, two months later, when Dana was like, what's all the shit on my property? Yeah. Remember that guy that was on my property two months ago? Right. Maybe he left it here. Right.
Starting point is 00:53:55 So they're like, shit. Because they all of a sudden talk to those deputies and deputies are like, yeah, his name is Richard Allen Davis. You know, this is what happened that night. And they're like, what now? And they were like October 1st and they're like, yeah. And then he's like, so they're like, fuck. Like, now they're looking at all this shit and they're like, oh, so now they're like, okay,
Starting point is 00:54:15 we gotta get a hold of them. So they got a hold of Richard Allen Davis. And he was at a sister's place in, I think. Look it up. Yeah, I'm not even gonna attempt this one. Hold on, I'll look it up. You've got a California. So that's where he was. They arrested him there. November 30th for a parole violation stemming from a DUI warrant on him from October 19th. That's how they were able to grab him. Got it. He was immediately questioned about Polly. He said he had no idea about anything.
Starting point is 00:54:47 Yeah, totally. Didn't have anything to do with it. Never saw our house. Of course not. On December 2nd, they were able to take that pom print that they got and compare it to his. No, no. Because it was no good to them just by itself,
Starting point is 00:55:00 but now they have someone that they can compare it to. Well, it was a perfect match. Oh, good. So they brought this information to him. They're like, yo, your hand, how'd your hand print end up in there? That's like so weird. I never had it. No, weird.
Starting point is 00:55:12 It's just like fly across the air and like materialize on her bed. Shit. So he was like, okay, well, I'm not going to say anything unless I can speak to this sergeant who he had like apparently wanted to tell. Okay. So this sergeant talked to him and he said he immediately got on the phone and said, I fucked up big time. And he admitted that Polly was no longer alive.
Starting point is 00:55:32 Oh God. Uh, he agreed to lead investigators to where he had put her body and he did so later that evening. Okay. She was located off Dutcher Creek Road near Highway 101. And this was about 40 miles north from where they encountered him on Dana-Jaffee's property. Oh, wow. So that's a little weird. She was found on her back under a large piece of plywood
Starting point is 00:55:54 and there was also other like random things placed on top of her. She was wearing a night gown that was pulled up under her arms and her white skirt that she had been wearing was pulled up under her arms as well. That's so sad. She did have on underwear and like a little bra. Near her body there was a piece of cloth and a rope. There was also hair in the knots of these things. They couldn't determine cause of death because she was very decomposed at the time. Oh my god. But they surmised the rope and cloth likely strangled her because of the hair and the correct size of the knot, basically. A doctor who did the autopsy on her remains said that they basically were like, it was an
Starting point is 00:56:34 awful way to find a 12-year-old girl. Yeah, I can imagine. Because it had been a couple of months. They said that the skull had separated away from her body at that time. It was. She wasn't decapitated when, you know, before this, it just happened to happen that way. And they said the hair had fallen from her head.
Starting point is 00:56:50 It was still there, but it like separates off at your skull. So it eventually just disintegrated. Hair stays around for a long time. Yeah. But it had like separated from her skull, which is just a very spooky thing to see. I don't like that.
Starting point is 00:57:03 She was like partially mummified. And that. She was partially mummified. And half of her was mummified. Half of her was skeletonized. And again, they couldn't. They said there was no organs left. There was nothing left. She was really decomposed. Wow.
Starting point is 00:57:18 Which made it really hard. So let's see. They found they unfortunately did find semen on her clothing They use UV light technology to check and they did find traces of semen. That's horrific They interviewed Davis and he said he was in the park across from Polly's home that evening That like really sketchy park. He said he drank a ton He smoked a joint that he thinks was laced with PCP. Oh shit.
Starting point is 00:57:46 He said he really doesn't remember much. But he said he didn't know Polly. He'd never seen her before, but suddenly he was just in her house. Oh, you know. And he remembers some of the binding up of the girls and then poof, he was just in the car. And he didn't even know that Polly was in there until she said the rope is too tight. Please elucinate around my arms. So she said, oh shit, I didn't know you were here. Like he's acting like, yeah, it just happened.
Starting point is 00:58:11 What the fuck? So maybe that is true, if he like, I don't believe that at all. I just like that, can you imagine? He was very lucid according to the girls. He was very with it. Can you imagine, no, if like that was the case, and then she's driving with this guy,
Starting point is 00:58:23 and then all of a sudden she's like, what the fuck? No, he realized that he's there. But you know what? That doesn't happen. Yeah, I mean, I don't know how that works. No, that would never happen. You're not, I don't give a shit what drug you're on. You know, bust into someone's house. And not remember. And if he was on, if he was really drugged up and had no idea what was going on, He was a very thorough person at work because he literally like ripped up pieces of cloth. He cut up wires to tie them up. Do you put pillowcases over their heads? He asked them very lucid questions. When he like cut the cloth, was it there that he cut the cloth? I'm not sure where he cut the
Starting point is 00:59:00 cloth. I wonder if he was like prepared to find out someone. Yeah, that's the thing. He's such a lying sack of shit that you'll never get exactly what happened out of him. Um, so he's, he's like, oh shit, don't know what to do. So he said we drove around. They got lost a little. That's when his car got stuck on that driveway in Dana. Oh, she was in the car.
Starting point is 00:59:20 Well, and he said he put, he then took poly out of the car, brought her into the woods to an embankment, told her, and he said he brought her there, just sat around the embankment, and told her not to move or make a sound. And he said she was there the whole time he was with those deputies. Oh my God. He said he went and got her after this. They got back in the car, they drove. He let, he stopped at a gas station for her to use the restroom. This is when he realized he a gas station for her to use the restroom. This is when he realized he was gonna go back
Starting point is 00:59:46 to prison for kidnapping, so he strangled her with a cloth and disposed of her. Here's the thing though, that's a giant load of bullshit. Yeah, she wasn't there when they did that, right? That's a giant load of bullshit. This guy is just a bullshitter. So there's no way that she was sitting there the entire time the deputies were there.
Starting point is 01:00:05 No. And then he got her and drove her around with no one seeing her because that's the other thing. No one saw her at any gas stations or him and she's not in any surveillance footage. No, we're supposed to believe that he drove her somewhere else murdered her and disposed her for there. Right. Like why? I doesn't make any sense. No. What likely happened and what they know happened. And I love that he was like she had to go to the bathroom. So I like, like, fuck you. No, you didn't. He constantly tried to make himself not the fucking humanize himself. What raging monster that he is.
Starting point is 01:00:33 Yeah. Um, so what likely happened is he went to that private road on Dana's property. He did, he probably didn't know it was a private road. Um, he brought Paulie into the woods. He assaulted and murdered her in there. Um, he then left her wherever he initially was going to dispose her of her in there. Because again, he didn't know this was private property. That's why all that shit was found in there. So he left her there, went back to his car, it was stuck. So he started freaking the fuck out. This jives with the fact that he's sweaty, dirty, and covered
Starting point is 01:01:04 in leaves and sticks and acting like super frantic whenever someone approached him. Right. He knew that he had just assaulted and murdered a child and disposed of them in the woods and now people are approaching him. Right. So what actually happened was that he spoke to the deputies with her in the woods wherever he had put her. Like she's dead. She's dead. So while he's talking to these deputies, Polly's in the woods. Oh my god. Like nearby. When they let him go, I think he did. Like he claimed wait for a little while before going back, retrieving her body and he brought her somewhere else. He moved her. Yeah. Of course, it's still it's still absolutely sickening to think that those deputies were talking to him and letting him go right there.
Starting point is 01:01:46 Well, Paulie was lying murdered nearby. That's so fucked up. Of course, it would, it seems worse if she was like alive in the wood, like just either way. But that's just not true. That's not what happened. No. And I feel like she would have tried to run. Like, that none of it makes sense. It doesn't out of it. It just none of it makes sense. All the murder stuff was in the woods right there. We did it there.
Starting point is 01:02:07 He had already removed her afterwards. Exactly. And that's why he was so like frantic and freaking out and sweaty and disgusting because he knew what he just did. So now he admits to kidnapping and murdering her. He's like, yep, did that. But he outright fuses to admit that he sexually assaulted her.
Starting point is 01:02:23 Be like, cool, where did your fucking se, there's, there's semen on her. Like, you did it. We know this, but they can't prove it because she's so badly decomposed. They cannot prove a sexual assault happened. Right. But all of them know what happened. Right. All it's like one of those things. It's like, you know, but she can't prove without a, you know, it's, it's just sucks. So the reasoning he won't admit, because you're like, why don't, you know, it's, it's just sucks. Um, so the reasoning he won't admit, because you're like, why don't, why won't he just, he's already a monster, he kidnapped and killed her. Why wouldn't he just admit to what I did? Well, because he's a giant baby. He's
Starting point is 01:02:55 just a giant pussy. And he knows that if he went to prison and they knew that he raped a child that he would be targeted in debt. Right. And so he's that big of just a little bitch that he can't bear the thought of going to prison with them knowing what he did to that child. Do you think they do know? Well, now they know. Right. But it's like the, so of course people who killed children are also not looked upon favorably by other prisoners.
Starting point is 01:03:28 So he tried to claim that he didn't realize that she was a little girl. What? Because he knows if he goes to prison as a child harder or two, he's like, either way, he's fucked. So now he's like, oh yeah, no, I thought she was like, so he kept referring to her as quote, that broad, when you would talk about it. Are you fucking kidding me? It's 12 year old. You abducted her from a sleepover too. Well, that's mean, it's like you interrupted
Starting point is 01:03:51 a slumber party. Right. She was like four foot 10. Yeah. She weighed like 80 pounds. And she looks like a little girl. And if you see any pictures of her, she's just a beautiful little girl.
Starting point is 01:04:02 Right. She looks her age. She's like this cute little girl. Right. She looks her age. She's like this cute little 12-year-old. Right. He's a lying sack of human battle excretion. That's what he is. He went to trial. He was convicted on June 18, 1996. Convicted a first-degree murder, burglary, robbery, kidnapping, and committing a loot act upon a child. My God. Now when he was sentenced, he did something so reprehensible that, I mean, it's fucked. It's just beyond. There's no, that, that, there's no words for it. No, there really aren't.
Starting point is 01:04:35 So I'm going to play this clip of what he said during his sentencing because it's just beyond. I would also like to state for the record that the main reason I know that I did not attempt any just beyond. That cry in the back is the saddest thing. Yeah, that was Mark class's mother, so Paulie class's grandmother sobbing. Yeah. To what she just heard, it was not true at all. What happened was Mark class said he initially took a beat after that and then he looked over and saw his mother start sobbing and he was like,
Starting point is 01:05:32 I just could not stop myself. So this mother fucker tried to say that Mark class had been raping his child and that, like, and then he puts out there, as I walked your child to kill her She looked at me and said please don't do me like my father like my dad So he the amount of just horror that he just Placed on this family is like who comes up with that in their head like like who that you're already a monster and then you do that
Starting point is 01:06:07 Like what and that is all just to get it off of him He knows that there's evidence that she was assaulted and he knows that and he knows he's going to prison And he's a little bitch So he's trying to put it and he doesn't give a shit that he's destroyed this family already He's just gonna keep destroying the name more. And it's like even just saying those things and hearing his stupid fucking face saying it makes me just, I wanna wretch when I hear him.
Starting point is 01:06:34 When he says that statement, it literally makes me gag. Like, oh, it's just so cruel. And a parent, so, so, I, like you can hear in it, my class did like jump up and try to like lunge at him. And I totally don't know the same exact thing. And he was held back and escorted out of the room. There has never been a time where it is more warranted for violence and for violence to be allowed than this,
Starting point is 01:07:02 in my opinion. Like this poor man lost his daughter to this fucking monster who walked into her home and stole her out of her fucking bedroom during a sleepover, literally. He raped her, he murdered her, and left her tiny little body in the elements alone. And then he was horrified. And then he has the fucking audacity to claim
Starting point is 01:07:21 that her father is a pedophile and that one of her last statements was about that. No, and it wasn't. And he wasn't. The depths of just evil that this guy is beyond. You can like smell it. It is, it is, honestly. I swear.
Starting point is 01:07:40 That's why this case, like hearing that stuff, you smell the evil. I had to like step away. I was like, I feel like it's like it envelops. It like creeps indeed. It's like this really makes you, ugh, it just stresses me out. So, Judge Thomas C. Hastings sentenced Richard Allen Davis to death for the murder, kidnapping, and assault of polyclass. Good. I'm going to play just another really quick clip, quick clip. Another quick clip because what the judge said was what we're all thinking. This is always a dramatic and emotional decision for a judge. you've made it very easy to date by your conduct.
Starting point is 01:08:27 Because I know that the death penalty can be very black and white for a lot of people and I respect that. I myself, I've said it before, this is not the first time I've said it, I sit in a very gray area with it. I think there's a lot of gray in it. This case really makes me firmly sit in my gray area. Because I know, in fact, Mark class at one point was like, I know prison for the rest of his life will not be like a picnic for him,
Starting point is 01:08:53 but it's not enough. No, it's not. And he was like, I want him gone. And in his statement to him, he even said he was like, the sooner you are taken off of this earth, the better we all will be for it. It's true. And I believe that. And I mean, not everybody's going to agree with me., the better we all will be for it. It's true. And I believe that.
Starting point is 01:09:05 And I mean, not everybody's gonna agree with me. No one needs to yell at me about it. This is my opinion. You can have your opinion. If you're against the death penalty, I totally respect it. Not only do I respect it, I get it. I get both sides.
Starting point is 01:09:18 I can 100% see both sides of this argument. Because there's cases where I'm like, yeah, that doesn't, no, this doesn't fit. Because they can get it wrong. That's because the thing I'm like, yeah, that doesn't, no. This doesn't fit. Because they can get it wrong. That's because the thing is sometimes it fits and sometimes it doesn't. Exactly. And they can get it wrong.
Starting point is 01:09:30 But in this case, it's like cool. And it's like, but this case, it's like, get that fucker off of Earth. Yeah. This is an evil. Just let her dad murder him. I know, that's like, and that's like, let him death by dad. Not leave that judge. Just do it.
Starting point is 01:09:44 And the last little clip I just want to play is Mark class's father Polly's grandfather what he had to say about what this piece of shit said about his son. This is epic I love this guy's awesome. He says it in such like a colorful way and you're like yeah, here it is As far as this man is concerned. I wouldn't wipe him off my shoe. I'd burn the shoes and flush the ashes down the sewer and I still wouldn't get down to where he is. What rang you to the family? You said those families don't work. My wife became hysterical because this man succeeded in what he was trying to do, which
Starting point is 01:10:34 was pierce my son through the heart and it shows the kind of people child molesters are. Like fuck yeah grandpa. I know. Literally. That is exactly how I feel. I know it's so, it's so weird of me to say but I really love his voice. He does have a great voice. He does.
Starting point is 01:11:01 Like he should narrate things. He should host something. Yeah, he has a wonderful voice. It's very soothing. And it's just, it's exactly like despicable. I was like, that is the perfect word. When he says, I wouldn't wipe him off my shoe. You can feel the emotion. I'm gonna start saying that to people.
Starting point is 01:11:13 You can. You can be like, I wouldn't wipe you off my shoe. Be emotion in that statement. You're just like, gives you chills. Because you're just like, what he's feeling? I can't imagine. Beyond. Beyond.
Starting point is 01:11:24 Because not only did he take his grandfather away you're just like, what he's feeling? I can't imagine. Beyond. Beyond. Because not only did he take his grandfather, his granddaughter away from him and the worst way imaginable, but then he says that about his son. Yeah. It's like he has just gotten like pounded on this guy. And he said he's like, he pierces our family over.
Starting point is 01:11:38 Yeah, and he said he succeeded. Like he succeeded in doing what he wanted to do. And you can tell because in the court video, you can see this little fucking smirk on his face. It is a spark. He's happy doing what he wanted to do and you can tell because in the court video you can see this little fucking Smirras on his face. It is a happy with what he did. And in the courtroom, Richard Allen Davis also would like flip the camera off and like kiss at the camera. And so like he didn't give a shit. He had zero room. I hope he gets like fucking bludge into a buddy bloody pulp every day. Unfortunately, he's still fucking alive. That's fine. I hope he, bloody pulp every day. Unfortunately, he's still fucking alive. That's fine.
Starting point is 01:12:06 I hope he gets beaten up every day. He's in San Quentin State prison. He's waiting his execution by lethal injection. He still has not met his fate yet. This case also brought into effect the three strikes law. And it was introduced under the violent crime control in Law Enforcement Act of 1994. It basically is mandatory life imprisonment if a convicted felon has been convicted of
Starting point is 01:12:33 a serious violent felony and also has two or more previous convictions. One of those has to be a violent felony. The other one could be something like a drug offense. But it's three strikes you're out. So it's like if you have two violent felony on your record and you get caught for some drug offense, you go to prison for mandatory life sentence. It's one of those things a lot of people have a lot of feelings about it. I could see.
Starting point is 01:13:01 But I think it was this case kind of like had something to do with it because it was like this guy just went through the fucking crowd. I've been in prison for how many times, for violent things. And it's like he should have been in for like, he was let out way too many times. Right. And it's like he was let out way too quick to be honest. Well, and obviously rehabilitation just isn't possible for some people. It wasn't happening for him. So it's like, come on. Also, APBs were changed to broadcast to all police channels after. The Polyclass Foundation was started by Mark Class. The Polyclass Foundation, it's in Petaluma, California. It's a national nonprofit. It's basically for the safety of all children, recovering missing children. They try to get public policies in place
Starting point is 01:13:46 that will help keep children safe in their communities. They have actually on their website, it says they've helped save more than 9,500 families of missing children. Wow. They counsel families of missing children, help people different ways to find their kids. They work with the Vellan enforcement, they help they help make and distribute posters for
Starting point is 01:14:09 missing children. This is a great foundation. They have an E-Volunteer forced that will distribute the posters, they'll help search, they have a hotline that has a 24-7 hotline for these things. Basically he's just trying to help so that like this doesn't happen to anybody else. And that he knows what these parents are going through and he wants to help. What a beautiful, beautiful gesture. Right. He's also the founder and director of the Class Kids Foundation. It's a foundation, just basically the mission is to stop crimes against children. It's a, they have a nationally recognized search and rescue team.
Starting point is 01:14:46 They help, I mean, they send out search managers, they help send out canine units. They work with the child abduction response teams in local, state, and federal agencies across the country. They will provide on-site and off-site online monitoring and leads submission to agencies conducting anti-child trafficking operation. They have a hotel information system database which provides agencies with a database to match online images with locations and all of their services are free of charge. Oh, okay. This is amazing. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:27 So my class is like really doing the damn thing. And I guess, um, Eve, um, Paulie's mother, like, is very quiet. She wants to stay away from most of this, but she also is on the board of the Paulie class foundation. Good. Um, and she, the, the father of the father of Pauli's younger sister Annie, she was separated with it at the time.
Starting point is 01:15:49 They got back together. Oh, that's beautiful. So I hope they're living a wonderful life together. I do too. So Mark class was also very open recently about his opinions on Governor Newsom, haunting executions. Uh huh.
Starting point is 01:16:03 He was fucking pissed. And he came out and was like, he's workingutions. Uh-huh. Um, he was fucking pissed. Oh. And he came out and was like, he's working on the side of evil. Because in San Quentin is also Scott Peterson. I mean, a lot of horrible fucking monsters. Yes, I'm really good at people. I mean, I'm sure a lot of people have different feelings about Scott Peterson because that last documentary came out and everybody all of a sudden doesn't think he did it.
Starting point is 01:16:23 But, yeah. I mean, it's one of those situations that I understand why Mark class is pissed because he's been waiting a long time to see the spucker die. And I honestly, I would be in his shoes almost 25 years. So he was not happy that it hasn't happened yet. Because he's also getting up there. It's like he wants to see a while. He's alive, right?
Starting point is 01:16:42 In fact, he said he would, this is probably not funny to most people, but it's funny to me. He said he would bring champagne to the execution. Oh, yeah, same. I would do the exact same thing if you fucking murdered him into my child. If you were, yeah. And especially if you were a parent, you get it.
Starting point is 01:16:57 Listening, you get it. Come on. Like don't tell me you don't get it. I would absolutely do that. Someone did anything to my children. I 100% would toast watching them die. absolutely do that. I would absolutely do that. I would absolutely do that. I would absolutely do that. I would absolutely do that. I would absolutely do that. I would absolutely do that. I would absolutely do that. I would absolutely do that. I would absolutely do that. I would absolutely do that. I would absolutely do that. I would absolutely do that. I would absolutely do that. I would absolutely do that. I would absolutely do that. I would absolutely do that. I would absolutely do that. I would absolutely do that. I would absolutely do that. I would absolutely do that. I would absolutely do that. I would absolutely do that. I would absolutely do that. I would absolutely do that. I would absolutely do that. I would absolutely do that. I would absolutely do that. I would absolutely do that. I would absolutely do that. I would absolutely do that. I would absolutely do that. I would absolutely do that. I would absolutely do that. I would absolutely do that. I would absolutely do that. I would absolutely do that. I would absolutely do that. I would absolutely do that. I would absolutely do that. I would absolutely do that. I would absolutely do that. I would absolutely do that. I would absolutely do that. I would absolutely do that. I would absolutely do that. I would absolutely do that. I would absolutely do that. I would absolutely do that. I would absolutely do that. I would absolutely do that. I would absolutely do that. I would absolutely do that. I would absolutely do that. I would absolutely do that. I would absolutely do that. I would absolutely do that. I would absolutely do that. I would absolutely do that. I would absolutely do that. I would absolutely do that. I would absolutely do that. I would absolutely do that. I would absolutely do that. I would absolutely do that. I would absolutely do that. I would absolutely do that. I would absolutely do that. I would absolutely do that. I would absolutely us in the gray, we get it. I see all the sides for sure. I don't think we can ever just make a final. No. Nobody will all agree on what we should do with that. But so that is the horrific story of Paulie class.
Starting point is 01:17:37 That was a rough one. The only good thing about it is that some good has come out of it. Yeah. That's true. And her father is, has for sure made sure that her name is attached to as many good things as possible. I love that. So yeah. Right. Well, if you need a break and you're on Instagram right now because you're like, oh,
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Starting point is 01:18:38 We hope you keep listening and we hope you keep it. We're, and that's a year we are that you're a fucking asshole, lunatic, even though you did have a bad childhood. It doesn't give you any excuse to be a fucking mean, mean, mean dude and fucking hurt people. And don't flip off the camera and make kissy faces and accuse people's dads of bad things that they didn't do because they didn't do that in your monster.
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