Morbid - Episode 113: The Keddie Cabin Murders Mini Morbid

Episode Date: January 20, 2020

April 11, 1981 would mark a grim day in Keddie, California. That evening, mystery assailants came into cabin 28 and brutally massacred mother of 5, Sue Sharp, her eldest son, his friend and h...er youngest daughter. 31 years later, the case remains unsolved, but with new investigators on the trail, things could take a turn. Check out the three part investigative report I mention in the episode https://www.plumasnews.com/keddie-murders-revisited/ Visit our sponsors! Perfect Bar Right now, Perfect Bar is offering 15% off your online order. Just go to Perfectbar.com/morbid15. Shop their refrigerated snacks at Perfectbar.com/morbid15 today to get 15% off your order. Upstart See why Upstart is ranked #1 in their category with over 300 businesses on Trustpilot and hurry to Upstart.com/morbid to find out HOW LOW your Upstart rate is. Checking your rate only takes a few minutes! That’s Upstart.com/morbid! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:02:02 He is a large man and And also the nicest man. He's so nice guys. He complimented my coat and I shot myself. It's so nice when people you like really like like comedians and all that stuff when you meet them, they genuinely are like what you want them to be in your brain. John couldn't come to that with us. And Gary Goldman made him a fucking video.
Starting point is 00:02:21 And it was his idea. Yeah, he was like, oh, he's not here. Like let's make him a video. And we did and it was awesome. And now we have maybe I'll post it because it was awesome. But yeah, that's not what this mini morbid is. No, it's not. But you know what? Ghosts and a Gary Goldman, because he's really funny. We love the girl. He's like comedy, Gary Goldman's it. So yeah, so that was fun last night. And this is a mini morbid. And it's a Lena's mini morbid, which means it's not mini. Great, which means we should jump right in.
Starting point is 00:02:46 Okay, ready to use that? Go. So in my mini morbid, I am going to cover the Kettie Cabin murders. Sounds familiar, but I'm not sure if I know it or not. It's real intense. I thought you were just gonna say it's real. And I was like, well, this is a true crime podcast,
Starting point is 00:03:01 so that's fitting. It happened. No, it's real intense. One might say like a circus fire. That took me a whole last minute. Sure did. I loved it. That's one of my favorite jokes. I like that.
Starting point is 00:03:17 So I loved ad jokes. So November 1980, 36 year old Glena Sue Sharp moved herself and her five children from Connecticut to a tiny little area called Kettie, California. Okay. She had divorced her husband James and was looking to have a fresh start. All right, and you're going to, I mean, Connecticut to California, that's a fresh start. Yeah, that's a whole kind of different choice. Yeah, that's a whole start.
Starting point is 00:03:42 So her children were 15-year, John, 14 year old Sheila, 12 year old Tina, 10 year old Rick, and five year old Greg. They all old Greg. Old Greg. Just think of old Greg whenever I hear Greg. They all just know we can't stop thinking of old Greg. I'm a skeleton. I'm a need of minute.
Starting point is 00:04:02 All right, so let me get my shit together, because old Greg is so steady. My mom mix up. So they all moved into a very small cabin in kind of like a dilapidated resort. Oh, fun. Which was close to Sue's brother Don's place. Oh, okay. This was so, this was, wow. What the fuck? Can you leave that in? Because I'm so scared. That was a glitch in the matrix. You, they had a nerve. You know what, quick side note. Speaking of glitches in the matrix, everybody keeps sending me that,
Starting point is 00:04:33 that they think I mean, Kazam with Shaq, when I said, Shazam with Sinbad happened, but no, I know Kazam with Shaq happened. Yeah, but also Shazam with Sinbad happened. That's the one that nobody can find. Which is so great. But trust me, like everybody was saying,
Starting point is 00:04:49 like no, this is the one I, yes, I agree that did happen, but Sinbad was in Shazam, just putting that out there. So the little family settled into their new cabin in cabin 28, okay. And what I did before I broke a second ago was saying it was supposed to be a temporary home. Okay. And what I did before I broke a second ago was saying it was supposed to be a temporary home. Okay. The kids made friends in nearby cabins. Things seemed pretty chill. Everything was happy. About five months after moving on April 11th, 1981, things changed drastically. Okay. So that evening on April 11th,
Starting point is 00:05:23 Sheila was at a friend's home nearby sleeping over for the evening. Okay. Sue, the mother, was at home with her two youngest children, Rick and Greg. Mm-hmm. They had a friend over 12-year-old Jason, Justin Smart. At around 10 p.m., Tina came home. She's the 12-year-old. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:05:41 She had been at Cabin 27 with friends hanging out. John had been out with a friend Dana Wingate that evening, and the two of them also returned home late. Okay. So, no one knows for sure what exactly happened next. I know this case. But if we skip to the next morning, a horrific picture emerges. So Sheila came home early in the morning on April 12th. When she opened the front door, she immediately saw the bodies of her mother Sue, her brother
Starting point is 00:06:09 John, and his friend Dana on the floor in the living room. Oh, that's horrific. The scene was fucking brutal. I believe it. Blood was everywhere, and the three bodies had been brutalized, and we're all bound. So Sheila immediately runs into the back room because she knows her little brothers are in there and saw that Rick Greg and their Justin, their friend Justin Smart had been unharmed and we're fast asleep. That's so strange. Justin lived in cabin 26. He lived there with his mother and stepfather Marilyn and Martin Smart and his brother. So she ran back to her
Starting point is 00:06:46 friend's cabin, got her friend's father James C. Bolt senior, and he came back with her and upon seeing the scene he got the three surviving children out of the house through a window. Thank God. So they wouldn't see the nightmare in the fucking living room. Right. He then informed the owners of the Keti Resort and the co-owner, Jan Albin, called the Sheriff's Department at 805 AM. Now, Deputy Hank Clement was the first to arrive on the scene. He said it was a fucking blood bath.
Starting point is 00:07:15 He said that he was shocked that Sheila had actually seen that. He was like, I don't know how she's gonna get past that. That's not okay. He said it was, I mean, it was everywhere. He said there was blood on the walls, the ceiling. It was everywhere. It's so horrific. So all victims had been bound with electrical tape
Starting point is 00:07:32 and wires. John and Dana were bound separately, but also bound together to each other. John was right in front of the door on his back. So he was the first thing you saw when you walked in the door. His hands were bound with electrical tape and he was covered in blood from a giant wound on his throat, which had been slit. Oh, Jesus. Next to him was Dana. Dana was faced down and his head, which had been absolutely mutilated by a blunt object, was partially on a pillow. Okay. Although his skull was crushed, he had been manually strangled to death.
Starting point is 00:08:07 Jesus Christ. Yeah. Sue was gagged with a blue bandana in her own underwear. Medical tape had been looped around her head to keep them in her mouth. She had a clear mark of the butt of a daisy power line 880 rifle on the side of her head. Her throat had also been slit and she was found nude from the waist down. Her killer had partially covered her with a blanket, but it didn't seem to be in a way that somebody cared, right, and how sometimes they'll do that.
Starting point is 00:08:39 Her hands and ankles were also bound together with medical tape and wires. And I believe it was so that her knees knees were like up against her chest, almost in like a fetal position. Blood was on the floor, it was on the sofa. It seemed like they said the way that the blood was, it seemed like they had been moved okay, and like placed in these positions. Blood was also found on some bedding in the bedroom. The bedroom that was Sheila's, and Sheila also shared it with Tina and her mother. So there was blood in there as well.
Starting point is 00:09:13 So it was again on the ceiling and the living room with the bodies were, and it was also on the bottoms of shoes feet, and the soles of John and Dana shoes, which indicates that they were moving around when they were in stepping in their own blood at one point. So besides the various injuries described, all the victims had been violently stabbed repeatedly. Investigators also deduced that the head trauma's inflicted had been from hammers. Yeah. Yeah. They found a bloody steak knife on the floor that was literally bent.
Starting point is 00:09:44 Oh my god. Yeah In the kitchen they found a butcher knife covered in blood and a bloody claw hammer. Oh a claw hammer Like what the word? Flaw hammer and another of itself is right triggering. It stresses me out. Yeah, it's not okay later They found another bloody knife in a trash can behind the Kettie general store. Yikes. Now, there were no signs of forced entry. All the lights were shut off. The phone was placed off the hook and the shades were all drowned.
Starting point is 00:10:10 That's spooky. There was one fingerprint lifted from a handrail on the back stairs of the cabin, but it was unidentified. Okay. Other than that, they were like, they had to wear gloves. Now that the scene was taken over,
Starting point is 00:10:22 she was like, wait a second. Where's Tina? Like, we're missing Tina. Uh-oh. So now they realize 12-year-old Tina is nowhere to be found. So this is when the FBI came in. Right. And she was the missing child. Like, was supposed to have been playing at Cabin 26.
Starting point is 00:10:37 Well, she was playing at Cabin 26, but she had come home. Okay. Yeah. So what's weird is that none of the other three boys woke up during the murders. Yeah. You would think that they were on loud murder. Yeah. Like this was not just like Bing-Bang Boom. You're all dead. Yeah. Meanwhile, another couple in the area said they woke up somewhere around 1.30 a.m. and heard like muffled screams. Okay. And they thought it was just a television or something. So they just went back to sleep. Can you imagine standing on things everybody?
Starting point is 00:11:07 Well, can you imagine finding a later? That's what that was and you went back to sleep? Can you imagine? That's so horrifying. So later, Justin came forward just in the 12 year old that was in the room with Rick and Greg. Sure. He said he did see something. Oh, okay. So under hypnosis. What you think? Justin claimed that he had seen Sue with two men one with a mustache and long hair And one that was clean shave and with short hair both both of them had glasses Hi, I'm Lindsey Graham the host of Wonder East podcast American scandal We bring to life some of the biggest controversies in U.S. history, presidential lies, environmental disasters, corporate fraud.
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Starting point is 00:13:17 criminal minds. I promise you won't regret adding these 10 minutes to your morning routine. Hey, Prime members, listen to the Amazon Music exclusive podcast killer, psyche daily in the Amazon Music app. Download the app today. One of them had a hammer in his hand and he said, John and Dana came in the house, began, you know, arguing with the men. The argument got violent.
Starting point is 00:13:45 Tina suddenly came into the room. They said she was holding a blanket. And one of the men took her out the back door before coming back into kill Sue. And then the other one killed John and Dana. He didn't know where that man put Dana. Tina. And like, did he say if they saw him? They said, no, they said like, no one saw him. Like, nothing, they were like, they didn't
Starting point is 00:14:10 see us. So that's why we were spared. Yeah, I guess. That's scary as well. Now, investigators made composite sketches of what he was saying. DNA was collected from the scene and stored, but nothing could be done about it at that point in the 80s. The sheriff Doug Thomas worked the case, and instead of calling in homicide, he called in the organized crime unit from Sacramento Department of Justice, which is weird. And at that point, I apparently that department was like known to be corrupt. Oh, goody.
Starting point is 00:14:42 Yeah. So Tina was missing, and there was absolutely no sign of her. In April of 1984, this doesn't sound very organized. No, three years after this, a man found part of a skull in Butte County, which was 29 miles away from Ketty. Next to the skull, there was a child's blanket, a blue nylon jacket, a pair of jeans, and an empty surgical tape dispenser. When they looked further, they found a jawbone and a bunch of bone fragments. I just said fragrance, fragments. I don't even hear phrases. I don't think you did. I felt like I did, but I don't know. Maybe I'm judging myself. They were Tina's remains, but they couldn't tell yet. Okay, so the Buttes County Sheriff's Department got a random
Starting point is 00:15:30 anonymous call Because they had put out this information that they had found this They got an anonymous call saying quote I was wondering if they thought of the murder up in Kettie up in Plumas County of a couple years ago Where a 12-year-old girl was never found. Oh. Now, the tip was recorded, but nothing was ever fucking done about it. Oh, perfect.
Starting point is 00:15:54 It was just sealed up and put an evidence. Great. That's what we like to do. It was actually in a sealed envelope. What? So, this person calls in, is like, yeah, pretty sure that person, that child has to do with that Kettie murder. Yeah. Which, it seems like it's the calls and is like, yeah, pretty sure that person, that child has to do with that catty murder. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:06 Which it seems like it's the person who did it. Yeah. It's like, uh, yo, that's her. So there didn't appear to be any motive and there was not a lot of evidence to go on at this point. There seemed to be multiple killers based on the plethora of weapons involved. Right. And what that kid had said.
Starting point is 00:16:22 Yeah. And so many people in the house, it's like that's a lot to subdue. Yeah. After a while, Justin Smart's stepfather, Martin Smart, was starting to be fingered as a suspect. Why? So he had a man living in their home who was an ex convict named John Boe uh Bu-deb I feel like that's a bit out of calling him Boe both men had tied to organized ties to organized crime and drug trafficking oh no
Starting point is 00:16:59 boy now why would these guys immediately be thought of as suspects? Well, it was believed that Martin and Sue were having an affair. Oh fuck. Besides this, it's said that Sue was basically convincing Marilyn to leave Martin. Okay. Marilyn, whose Justin's mother, Martin's wife, left her husband Martin the day of the murders. Oh, yeah. So why would he kill Sue then? Because he believes that Sue convinced Marilyn to leave him. I'd be like, well, but you want to be with me, but he doesn't. Oh, they're
Starting point is 00:17:33 just having an affair. Got it. Yeah. Lately logically, you're like, what? Love for a male. So now Martin is pissed because he had an affair and that affair ended up convincing his wife to leave him. Right. Right. Right. Right. I love to see you. So when this all happened, he got his convict friend Bo, and with theirs highs to the mob, they got the job done. That's a theory. At one point, Martin also told investigators that a hammer of his went missing, which is pretty
Starting point is 00:18:01 convenient to explain why your ship would be one of the murder weapons. missing, which is pretty convenient to explain why your shit would be one of the murder weapons. Right. And when they found that when they showed, had the hammers, it matched with the hammer he had missing. And he's like, oh shit. He's like, I love that somewhere. Someone stole my hammer. After I killed someone. Now on top of this, Maryland gave the Plumas County Sheriff's Department a handwritten letter sent to her. This is Maryland. Uh-huh. Justin's mom, Martin's wife. Yes. It was sent to her and signed by Martin. It read quote, I've paid the price of your love.
Starting point is 00:18:32 And now that I've bought, now that I've bought it with four people's lives, you tell me we are through great. What else do you want? Oh, no one did anything with this letter. Martin, sweetie, you're sick. No one did anything with the letter. They were just like, Oh, yeah, whatever. What? This is this was a corrupt ass police department. Like was he paying them or something? Well, you'll see. So in 2004,
Starting point is 00:18:56 the cabin was finally torn down between then and now or between then in 2004, that's case was like cold. So there's just no information about it. Meanwhile, in 2008, Marilyn admitted in a documentary about this that she 100% thought her husband and his friend, but was responsible. Shit. So this lady's been like, yeah, they did it. So what did Sheriff Doug Thomas say to all this overwhelming evidence that Martin did it? I'm busy that day. Well, he was like, no, he took a polygraph test. Oh, yeah, we all know that those are allowed. What did Sheriff Doug Thomas say to all this overwhelming evidence that Martin did it? I'm busy that day.
Starting point is 00:19:25 Well, he was like, no, he took a polygraph test. Oh, yeah, we all know that those are allowed. He was like, he passed it, it's fine. Yeah, that's it. That's it. For sure. Now, Thomas, so Sheriff Doug Thomas was asked about his relationship with Martin back in the day because of like, did you know him?
Starting point is 00:19:41 And according to a report in Plumus News about the case, he said he and Martin were quote, great pals. Oh. And he said that he had even allowed quote, Marty to come with him on a patrol a lot. He even asked, Marty even asked him for marriage advice. Uh huh. They were closest fuck. Yeah, they were BFFs.
Starting point is 00:20:01 So it wasn't until 2013 that new investigators took on this case. I don't know if I would like, well, I do know. I definitely wouldn't cover up a murder for my best friend. Yeah, that this dude was like fully willing to do it. In 2013, new investigators took on the case and found that they found the recording of that anonymous tip about Tina. These investigators were plumeesh Sheriff-sharif Greg Hagwood and special investigator Mike Gamberg. In 2016, three years after they were put on the case, Gamberg found a hammer and a dried-up pond in the area, and they believe it's one of the murder weapons. That same year Gamberg also met with an
Starting point is 00:20:41 anonymous counselor at the Reno Veterans Administration. This counselor told them that in May 1981 he had taken on Martin Smart as a patient and that Martin Smart actually confessed to that he murdered Sue the mother and the 12-year-old girl Tina. What? He said, quote, I killed the woman and her daughter but I didn't have anything to do with the boys. What a peach. Like, I think that might be like, what? What a peach. He's like, well, I killed the mother and the daughter. I didn't kill the boys, though. Jesus Christ. Don't pin that. I killed the 12 year old. Are you in my business, on me? Yeah. So when the DOJ was conformed of this bombshell in 1981. They just said, oh, that's just hearsay.
Starting point is 00:21:26 What the fuck? Yep. This is fucked up. So much corruption. So the resounding theory here is that Martin Smart killed them with the aid of at least that felon bow he lived with. It seems they did this because of the affair probably and needed her out of the situation.
Starting point is 00:21:43 This makes sense for all the evidence already present as well as the fact that Justin Smart, his son, was unharmed and the other two boys were with him too. So that's why Justin wasn't killed. I didn't even think of that son. It also makes sense why Justin was a little wishy washy about what he what a hear and a thought or saw He was probably finished shit cuz he kind of was like yeah, I saw this I saw that I don't know I got a good like why didn't they kill you? Oh, I don't know It was my dad Gamburg who was on the case who was one of the new investigators put on the case in 2013
Starting point is 00:22:22 Things there was a deep cover up in the sheriff's department because of like mob shit and all that. Where does the mob come into play? Well, because those two, because remember I said earlier, they had a little rich and organized crowd. Oh, right. They had organized. Sure, sure, sure.
Starting point is 00:22:36 Sorry. So as of now, Martin and Bo are dead. Oh, fuck. Yeah. But they were able to get new DNA evidence and it seems to place other living people there. They haven't announced who they are yet, but they have, there's, there's, there's like, this case is ongoing. So more than two people.
Starting point is 00:22:50 So, yeah. So, what's crazy is that Gamberg and Hagwood were teens during the murders and were friends with John and Dana, the two teen boys who were murdered. What? Yeah. In fact, Gamberg said to CBS Sacramento that Dana was at his house the day before the murder stop. Yeah, and now he's working on the case. One other crazy note linking them to the crime is from a crazy awesome three-part investigative look into this case. It's so good. Like I'm gonna put the links to this in our show notes.
Starting point is 00:23:21 It's by Victoria Metcalf in Plumas News. this in our show notes. It's by Victoria Metcalf in Plumas news. The night of the murders, Martin and Bo went to the back door bar around 10 p.m. in the area. They were wearing three pea suits in sunglasses. This is a small dive-ish type bar. So everyone interviewed was baffled someone who lived out in there. The author and many other sources I saw think they did this to draw attention to their presence at the bar to establish an alibi for themselves. What an alibi. Because two dudes walking into a dive bar with three-piece suits on and sunglasses, everyone's gonna see you. Right. And they're all gonna be like, oh yeah, I saw that fucker. He's wearing a three-piece suit. I saw him at the bar. Right. So he thinks that was then being really like thinking ahead, you know, cunning and doing
Starting point is 00:24:06 this to establish their allies. I want to know like what the next question would be if they were like, um, so why were you wearing a three piece suit? I just like, I felt fancy tonight. Like, deal with it. I wear my sunglasses at night. Well, and what they did that night was after a couple of hours, they left the bar because they got mad that the music was switched from
Starting point is 00:24:25 country to rock music. I would be mad at the switch of that. But I'm like switching from rock to country. I was like, wait, no, you wouldn't. And then later, Martin called the bar from his cabin to piss in moan about it some more. He's shitting me. And then they went back later that night for another drink and left a bit before 2 a.m. Now they think he called from his cabin to further establish. I'm not told. I'm in my cabin. In the same article she mentions that the counselor who Martin allegedly confessed to also said that Martin indicated the motive being that Sue was the reason Marilyn wanted to divorce him. He also said he killed Tina just because she saw it.
Starting point is 00:25:08 Wow. He was like, I couldn't leave her. She saw what happened. Oh my God. So that's the other thing. It's like Tina watched her mother be murdered. Right. Um, in the same article, the theory is that the perpetrators were already in the cabin when
Starting point is 00:25:19 John and Dana arrived and that they were dispatched in front of John's mother, Sue, so that she had to watch. Oh. And that, like, basically, they were just like a problem, like an obstacle. They also said, you know, she had to watch what happened to Tina as well, likely. Oh my God. They think she was tortured for a long time. They said her death was not like a quickly slice the throat. They said they think they were in that cabin for a long time.
Starting point is 00:25:46 That's horrific. And as of now, this is a short one. I just looked at the top. I was shocked that we were done. It's because there's not it's it's a totally cold case. That one, it's not cold. I shouldn't say that it was a cold case for a long time. And now it's reopened and they're starting to get more evidence in this.
Starting point is 00:26:05 So it's like an ongoing investigation right now. So any updates on this case, I'm definitely going to give you guys updates as it comes because it's fascinating because I mean it's Bowen Martin in Martin obviously. Yeah, clearly. But it's like other people are involved here and I need to know. I must know. No, I need to know. I must know. I need to know because also there was Sheila, one of the... The one that came home and discovered that.
Starting point is 00:26:31 The one that came home and found it. She said that like they basically let, like Martin and Bo, they let them skip town once they were named Suspects. They were never told they couldn't leave. That's weird. Like they were allowed to do whatever they wanted, and Sheila was like, to me, the whole thing is a cover-up, which she believes that too.
Starting point is 00:26:48 She's like, it's very obvious, it's a cover-up. Yeah. Sounds like it. And that's what I think it is. I agree with that. But so far, the murders in cabin 28, the Ketty Cabin murders are unsolved at this point. It's spooky as fuck.
Starting point is 00:27:03 I definitely heard that case before, but at first I was like, I don't know this and then I was like, the more you're telling it, I know it. It's such a good one because it's a good mini morbid because it's like, there's a good amount of information but not a ton of it. Right, right, right. So it's like, it's perfect for a mini. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:17 So that is that. Is the Kettie Cabin murders and hopefully we'll learn more about it because I want to see those two detectives solve the case I just they were like friends with John and Dana. That's that'd be beautiful I and they're like mission is to do this for them. Yeah, of course it is. That's your fucking friend. Yeah, I want them to succeed Well, we'll alert you on Instagram if there's any updates We will if you don't or Instagram it is at morbid podcast You can hit us up on Twitter because you'll't know our Instagram it is at morbid podcast.
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Starting point is 00:28:14 A big giant. And our mountain size announcement is coming this week. Yeah, yo. So stay tuned. And we hope you keep listening. We hope you keep it I don't have it in me no no this one's graphic and Okay, not so weird that you fucking try to a dive bar in sunglasses and then call later and complain about the music Because who really needs a fucking complain about the music and a fucking dive bar like don't be doing that
Starting point is 00:28:40 If you're gonna change it from rock and roll to country like really you're gonna fucking call them and complain about that And then you're gonna like torture a lady because she was your mistress and she's not actually your wife and a lady is bumping to the grind right now. I knew you had it in you. I had it in me. I always did it. Bye. Hey, Prime Members! You can listen to Morvid, Early, and Add Free on Amazon Music. Download the Amazon Music app today, or you can listen Add Free with Wondery Plus and Apple podcasts. Before you go, tell us about yourself by completing a short survey at Wondery.com slash survey.
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