Morbid - Episode 14: Richard “Stanky Chops” Ramirez AKA “The Nightstalker”

Episode Date: August 21, 2018

Richard Ramirez was the worst human to be spat onto Earth in a long time. Between the years of 1984 and 1985, he terrorized the residents of Los Angeles and surrounding areas by creeping through unlocked windows and doors in the dead of night to rape, assault, torture and murder whoever was unfortunate enough to be sleeping inside. In Part 1 of our two part series on this demon turd, we take a look at his early life and the beginnings of his ride into infamy. Lock your windows, guys. Fresh air is for dead people. Sources: https://www.lamag.com/citythinkblog/13-year-old-boy-brought-down-notorious-serial-killer-richard-ramirez-night-stalker/ https://www.aetv.com/real-crime/was-a-bad-childhood-to-blame-for-night-stalker-richard-ramirez-becoming-a-serial-killer https://allthatsinteresting.com/richard-ramirez-night-stalker See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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free for 30 days. That's W-O-N-D-E-R-Y-P-O-D. Audible.com slash wonderie pod or text wonderie pod to 500-500 to try Audible for free for 30 days. Police say the only common thread in the killings is the time of day. The night's talker apparently picks his victims up random, entering their homes after dark through unlocked doors. I'm afraid for everybody elderly, young, everybody. I've been very apprehensive, I keep my doors locked and my guns loaded.

Hey weirdos, I'm the night and I'm a stalker. And this is morbid. Woop, woop, woop, woop, woop. Listen to those crickets. Guess where we are? We're outside again because we're covering the night stalker. So we wanted to be in the night without a stalker. Hopefully, except I think I might have heard a coyote making like yelping noises down the street. Well, that's alright. And we're surrounded by bugs, but I think that... Yeah. I really didn't want to be outside, but...

But it's so beautiful. ...as the lamest world and we're all just lippin' in that's right. That's right. I'm glad you recognized that. You're welcome. No, I'm just kidding. She's great. It feels like fall.

So I'm just impressed it really does. We're wearing sweatshirts. We're comfortable. It was short, though. That's true. I can understand that. I'm wearing nice comfortable sweatpants. I'm wearing shorts. Because that's what podcasting is all about. I know I was going to wear sweatpants,

but I thought we were going to be in the pod live and it's probably a little more hot. That's true. That's warm in there. It's like 400 degrees in there at all times. Yeah. So yeah, let us know if these crickets are knowing the shit out of you and we won't do this again. Or you could just get over it. No, I'm just kidding. But since you guys seem to dig us recording outside last time for our woods episode. Yeah, people thought that was great. Yeah, and where you know it goes with the theme. Yeah. So we're going with it. I hope I don't get covered in mosquito bites this time though. Yeah, I didn't get any mosquito bites. Oh my gosh. It's sweeter than I am. Maybe. Last time I was like covered. Oh my god, how about bug doesn't land on the microphone?

Oh god, it will go like, boo! I hope it's new. We bought our new microphone y'all. Yay! I'm kinda sad that this microphone picks up anything because I was drinking a Captain Crunch Slurpee. And now I feel like I can't drink it anymore. But it's true.

It's amazing, it sounds gross, but it is amazing. I just love that you handed me it to Trash. And she just hands me it and goes, I'm trash. Well, because I bought an extra large slurpy at 7-11 on my way here. I love that. Was I here trying this? I'm trash. I'm trying this, I'm trash. I am.

Sorry. I accept it. I love you. And then I gave it to John I was like try this trash cereal just like that. I thought right click. He was like Captain Crunch is in a trash cereal. It's true you got like very offended but he was like that is not a trash cereal. Also I think we're going to try and get a PO box soon. We are so that we can send you things without sending you our actual addresses because love you. But I don't know if you're a murderer. But you know. Just getting a few Nanny Alps and Litterers.

I hope. But also, you know, you guys can write to us if you want to. Yeah. Because it's got a little fashion snail mail. It's still pretty awesome. Yeah, I want that. I love snail mail. Well, right, you back. Yeah, we're right, you back. So, you know, we'll get a PO box. We'll let you know what it is. Then you can write a shit. And yeah, I don't know if there's a lot of true crime news. Did you hear about the guy that like killed his

pregnant wife, I think? Oh, that's what I was literally just thinking about. Other little girls. Yeah, it's horrific. He went on like several press conferences being like, I just want them to come home in my world and it's like your beautiful shit. You fucking killed them, you know. And I'm pretty sure it was a two-year-old and a four-year-old. Yeah, they were like babies.

And then she was pregnant. With, yeah. How did you do that? Like, I just don't understand. He's a little son of a bitch. How you watch somebody walk down the aisle towards you and exchange like beautiful vows and like create three lives together and then just destroy all of them and how you murder your own children or any children for that matter. And your own children, but your own flesh and blood.

Like I can't even get mad at my girls. Like I get like if I have to like reprim like, be like, do not do that and have to use like a stern voice, I immediately feel bad afterwards. I tell Tyler that she couldn't have another cookie last week and it destroyed me for like a couple hours. Because you're like, I just want to make you happy. Just want to give you another way for it. It's like I can't imagine, like, and that was their dad.

Like that was their dad. Okay, I can't. I know I can't even think about it. No, I can't. Like, John and I brought up the article and we were reading it the other day and John said it, he was like, I can't even go into this. Cause you just think about it. Oh yeah, it's just too much. It's so horrible. And unfortunately, tonight we are doing obviously Richard Ramirez, the night's soccer and fair warning everybody. It's a real bad guy. Was that a coyote? I didn't. I think it was another case of us hearing a car. Oh, shit. I think it was like a misdiagnosing a coyote scream. I mean, coyote.

You imagine if the coyote just walked through the woods, you'd be like, WAP! I'm like, really? I'm like, you're really not scary. I feel like you're really not scary. WAP! WAP! What a bitch who said, I'm a coyote. I'm a coyote. That'd be awesome.

I feel like hey girl. But what I was saying was, this is a very, very happy one. Richard Ramirez is literally like he's he did the day thing. My father he is the worst. Yeah. Like when you really get down to the nitty gritty he is the worst. And I honestly didn't think that before because I had read a lot about him and I knew a lot about him and I thought he was awful anyways he was like top three anyway. Oh yeah. But once I really dove deeper into him, he's the worst. He's so gross. Like by far, because the other thing is he's got a pretty high number. I mean, I'm pretty,

he has- Well, just killings. Yeah, just killings. And then on top of it, he had rapes, he had assaults, he had, I mean, he was a real piece of shit. Like, he molested kids, he killed kids. That's so fucking gross. He kidnapped kids, he did awful shit kids. And it's like, he had no M.O. really. His only M.O. was breaking in in the middle of the night. That was it. Besides that, he had nothing that was a pattern. So, he was completely unpredictable. He was totally disorganized, like, which is almost scarier. Oh, it is because like,

like I think of Ted Bundy-Tembert, he's a fucking monster. And he isn't insanely high number. But he was an organized serial killer, so he had a pattern, he had an ammo. You knew what to expect. He planned his shit out, which is scary and horrifying,

but like Richard Ramirez was all over the guy. And he was just like insatiable. And it's like he had no line. Oh, there was no line for him. Like, I don't know if there was a line for Ted Bundy. I mean, he crossed many lines as well. Yeah, I had some kids. Richard Ramirez really had no line. Like none. So without further a deal. So without further a deal. Here we go. The night started. Oh something just bit my foot. It was me. Oh, sorry. Weird. Weird. Weird. Weird. Weird. Sorry about it. So basically he was the most evil son of a bitch walking me earth at the time and he said my name. Thought nominal.

Like we can pretty much say that. He's a fucking monster. So he's known to have killed 16 people in 14 months. Whoa, back in 1984 to 1985. 1985 was the year I was born. Yeah, at the end of 85. So when he was caught I wasn't born yet. But whatever. That's good. Yeah. So that's good. But he also raped and injured a ton more in the process and he was suspected in at least four more murders. So they haven't even killed those and he's dead. He's dead now. But he's spent time in jail. So he got his and he died of like blood

cancer. Blood cancer. And you know that was a thing. Oh yeah. And apparently at the end and we'll get into this obviously because I should mention now This is gonna be a two-parter because there's just so much. Yeah, I saw a lot of you We don't want like overwhelm you with like a four-hour of Of just like mayhem and murder legit so at the end he apparently his skin turned like highlighter green. Oh, yeah I've heard about that's kind of fun. Yikes. And like we said he had like no ammo. He used guns, he used knives, he would use things, usually he didn't bring things with him. Unless it was a gun or he would bring weird thumb cuffs everyone said a while. Thumb cuffs? Yeah. They're like they're used to like war situations, like

military situations a lot. That's freaky. Yeah, it's a weird. It's more like a, like the thing that you stick your hands into, like that. Almost like that, but it's, they're like actual cuffs. Oh. Yeah, it's a weird. I'll have to find a picture. But he had other media names before he was dubbed the Night Stalker, which the Night

Stalker is a great serial name. Oh yeah. Like serial names. I mean, I knew what you'd have Night Stalker is a great serial name. Oh yeah, like serial names. I mean, I knew what you'd have to express. It's a trash serial. That is a trash serial. No, it's a really good serial killer name, but his other names before he got that one included the Valley Intruder, the Midnight Stalker. Yeah, it's just close. The walk-in killer? the midnight stoker. Yeah, it's just close. The walk-in killer? This sounds like the walk-in freezer. This one's by far the worst. The screen door intruder. No, like someone got fired after it was coming from the alley times. The screen door intruder. Like, can you imagine that being the one that like you were like stuck with? I am screen door intruder.

That's what you go to prison with. Everyone you know that you were just visited by the screen door intruder. Yikes. So he was definitely classified as a disorganized serial killer like we were saying completely on like Bundy. He didn't plan. He would literally walk in places at random. He did not have a victim profile. He didn't watch his victims. Like, walked into a house, had no way. Willy Ness going on in there. And sometimes there were men and he would just, his thing was to take out the man as fast as possible so that he could focus on the

woman. Oh yeah. So he was kind of like the golden state killer in that sense. Right? He made sure the man was securely tied up. Yeah, like the threat was taken, like neutralized before he went and did this thing. He was less organized than the golden state killer though, way less organized. So young Richard Ramirez was born Ricardo, Leva, Moon, I'm sorry. I am not Spanish guys, so I really apologize. I can just do this. I feel Spanish. Yeah, you do all the tongue rolls and all that You know Sramirez on February 29th, 1960 in El Paso, Texas and that is a that's leap day

Which is mostly this fun whimsical thing, but didn't turn out that way for him. Maybe it ruined his life It's supposed to bring you luck, I think. It's like good luck. To be born on a leak here? Yeah. Oh, I think it's like good luck. I hope you're making that up. I'm gonna pull that out of my ass, but it sounds good. Yeah, I've never heard that. But there's a lot of things I've never heard. I'm gonna find a source for that. Do it gotta be a source for luck. I heard that somewhere. He was the youngest of five children. Fuck that. that somewhere. He was the youngest of five children. I'm the youngest of four. His father, Julian Ramirez, was actually originally a police officer, but when Richard was born, he worked as a

laborer for the Santa Fe Railroad. And his mother, Mercedes. Okay. Mercedes. I don't want to go Mercedes. I sound very American. Mercedes. Mercedes. Yeah, sure. Rumia's. Was actually a labor and a boot factory. Like the boots from last week? Like dust boots. Yes, she was making most of shit. No wonder he was a serial killer. Well, it kind of was torturous because she was constantly exposed to dangerous chemical fumes while she worked there and she worked there. I'm gonna wait for that point to go back. That huge fucking jet engine.

That's going over me. So she was exposed to these dangerous chemical fumes while she was pregnant with all of her children. Oh, she was sucking in toxic chemicals while working all day while pregnant with all her kids. No bueno. As a result, all of his siblings had some kind of birth defects, like respiratory issues. They weren't all physical, but some of them respiratory issues, bone deformities and Richard Ramirez is a birth defect. And the night stalker. I think he's just a birth defect all in himself. So like don't do what

she did. Don't work around dangerous fumes. It's not a bad idea. Actually, I might have to do that someday. Yeah. Hair masts. Hair fumes are like actually low-key. Oh yeah, when I was pregnant, they like didn't, I couldn't dye my hair. When people bring their babies into the salon sometime, I'm like, oh. That kind of makes me crazy. It dries well, one, people are trying to relax. Yeah, that's true.

So don't bring your crying baby in. And you're supposed to relax. And two, you're relaxing. And then three, there's a lot of things in there that I feel like they should not be breathing in. Well, that's, it's like, we shouldn't be breathing that shit in. So it's like, babies, I don't know. No, that makes me it's like we shouldn't be breathing that shit in. So it's like babies, I don't know.

No, that makes me nervous that someday I might be pregnant around all that stuff. Well, just wear a mask. I've seen hairdressers that like were pregnant and wore a mask while they did it. And I was like, you asshole. So you're a mouse. Huge. So just do that because you don't want a little Ricky. Sure don't.

So besides that whole thing, Richard's father was like a super angry dude and he was prone to fits of rage and violence, which he often directed towards his family. So not in his wife. So he probably had nothing to do with how Richard turned around. This is like a cesspool of a house. Oh yeah. So already that's things are going pretty smoothly for a trajectory towards Mayhem.

Yeah. But we've added on the fact that as a child, Richard also suffered not one, but two major head injuries. Head injuries, yep. Two, guys, watch your kids' heads. Yeah. Make them wear a helmet for a while. I mean, once once they have a major head injury man. You're fucked. I want to return him cuz bring him back to the store

It's pretty hard to reverse Seems to be a thing like it's a it's not good John Wayne Gacy had a head trauma so many Ted Bundy had a head trauma Dean had a head trauma you had a head trauma. And Dean had a head trauma. You had a head trauma. I'm just kidding. I had a head trauma. It's so, it's all bad. So yeah, your face with the shit on the look is apparent at that happens. So one of them was at the age of two. Oh damn.

And it was a dresser fell on him. And he had to get more than 30 stitches. Oh, that's true. That's right. Tether dressers to the wall, people. Yeah. If you have kids, tether dressers to the wall people. Yeah, if you have kids Tether dressers to the wall. How many more videos do we need to see where they're like oh my god Look at this dresser fell on this kid. That's crazy because kids climb on shit

Right and they pull the whole thing down because it's like physics and shit because it's like physics That dresser to the wall. I'm saying your seat cushion kind of makes my like legs a little itchy That's weird. Yeah Sorry, it's okay. I apologize. I was wearing sweatpants You're so complaining right now. I am complaining. It's because my captain crunch slurpee's gone I'm sorry about it. I'm a jackat whole thing. Yeah, I'm trapped I'm sorry about it. Oh you jaype that whole thing I'm a pass I'm self-proclaimed trash. I love it. Thank you

So the second head injury was when he was five and he was knocked unconscious by a swing at the playground Damn what a gnarly fucking straight like was it made of cement or something? Look who was swinging, right? Like, was doing the rock jumps. I was just sweating everywhere. I was just sweating everywhere. Was doing the rock jumps and like swinging over the fence. Oh sorry Richard. You smell.

Did you say do you smell? When he was a wrestler his thing used to be Did you say do you smell? When he was a wrestler his thing used to be do you smell what the rockets could be? Do you smell? Do you smell? Actually yes, much of a embarrassed dance smell. I thought that's the joke you make. Oh, I didn't even realize that connection.

Wait, how fitting that I'm having a slurpy right now. I think that's so up his alley. He like lived off realize that connection. Wait, how fitting that I'm having a slurpee right now. I think that's so up his alley. He like lived up on that ship. Oh god. You don't live up there and you brush it to your teeth. Sometimes I'm just kidding. Oh, you have pretty teeth. Thank you.

Oh, we got things. I like your teeth. Wow. I aspire to your teeth. What? We're really learning a lot. It's a moment. We're really learning a lot. It's a moment. We're having a moment.

So yeah, he got hit by doing the rock toes and on the whole figure. He did. It was after this injury that he actually started a suffer from epileptic seizures. Oh shit. And they plagued him until he was a teenager. And then they just stopped? They stopped. This is actually kind of funny.

They stopped when he started smoking marijuana. And that they just like stopped? They stopped. This is actually kind of funny. They stopped when he started smoking marijuana. And that is a thing. I mean, it seems more and more to have some kind of connection. I'm not saying that that's the reason it stopped, but it is a thing. In his early teen years, he actually, this is, this is kind of sad, but like don't feel bad for him because he's the worst. He used to start sleeping in a cemetery to get away from his house Wow because it was quiet and he could be alone and his dad wasn't like beating the shit out of them That's actually really sad, but I'm not gonna feel bad. It actually sounds kind of lovely Like very peaceful. You get sounds like this

You're just sleeping someone's backyard. That's what I would do. And then just like sneak out in the morning. Sometimes. Maybe that's a little creepy that I just said that. Yeah, there you go. Now, as if we haven't already, like, really made a serial killer pie with all of these pieces, we're missing one, one, a couple more ingredients, And don't worry, because Richard got all the ingredients. Oh, he got like double pie. So I'm pretty sure this was really,

I mean, if everything else happened, maybe he could have, I don't know. I mean, he's one of those, like the nature versus nurture. He could argue it for a long time, because you could really argue for nurture, because he had no chance. I mean this kid had everything against him, but it's also like he is so evil that it's like he

had to have been born with some evilness. But then again it's like maybe it was the toxic fumes that his mother was sucking and maybe like worked his brain chemistry from the get go. So I don't know, but I know this had something to do with it right here. Well And I'm sure everybody will agree. So during his early teen years, it was his cousin Miguel or Mike who was really to blame. And he was to blame for fusing the idea of like sex and violence together. Which is what a lot of these serial killers go through, like a lot of these, you know, especially the ones that are like sexual sadists, like Ted Bundy.

Right. Like a lot of them get sex and violence fused at some point in a very usually during their like pre-busset years where it's really important to have a good foundation and like a healthy outlook on sex and really ships and all that. They always end up getting something fucked up. That like you can't really turn back the clock. So, Mike was a former green beret and Vietnam. Oh, shit. So already it's like, Mike has seen some things. My father was in Vietnam. Yeah. So, now

when he came back from from NAM, Mike brought some Polaroids back with him and it wasn't like... Of dead people? It wasn't like hashtag food porn or like beautiful scenery. Uh-uh. Or anything like that. Uh, they were photos of him decapitating people. Holy shit! Rapping Vietnamese women.

Oh god. Torturing Vietnamese women and killing Vietnamese women. That's literally horrible. And he showed these to a 12 year old Richard who takes photos like that. A really messed up individual who which Mike was. And you will see he gets even more messed up. Oh God. Unfortunately, he was showing these things to Richard. He was telling him how amazing it was and how powerful he felt. And he was he was basically telling him how great it was to just kill

the world. Take their lives, take, you know, rape them, do take what he wanted basically. So he was putting this in his head already and these pictures were like arousing to Richard because again starting to fuse sex and violence together and these are going to be his fantasies now. I just don't get that. Because he's just not getting a correct view. One, on women.

Like he's already getting a very skewed, very fucked up message about women, which is, you want to have sex with them, you take it. You want to kill them, you take it. You want something from somebody, you take it. Like, that's what this guy is. That is not what you do. And that's not what you do. And he was also teaching him techniques

he used in the war, like teaching him how to shoot a gun, teaching, which in and of itself is not a bad thing, but with everything else. He was teaching him about secrecy and recon and teaching him about creeping the fuck around, which is exactly what Richard ended up using later in life. And then I'm teaching today about creeping around. I'm gonna teach you about creeping the fuck around.

Today's lesson is creeping around. They also called him Little Ricky. That's a good rap name. Little Ricky. There's a rapper in a little dickie. Of course I was kidding. So on May 4th 1973, Ricky was hanging out.

Ricky, I'm like Ricky, you know. Richard was hanging out with Mike at his house. Uh-oh. Like he did a lot when he was way too young. Mike got angry at his wife, Jessica. No. And shot Jessica in the face in front of Richard. What?

Who was 12 at the time? Just straight up point Blake murdered. Yep, her. And she was dead, like shot her in the face. It like was mad at her. Shot her in the face in front of Richard Jesus Mike was found criminally insane and only to serve four years and then was just out and then he was out and continued to stay in touch with Richard Throughout his killing spree. What the fuck? Yeah, so now already we have the abusive father

We have the chaotic f. We have the chaotic house. The chaotic fumes from the womb. A chaotic house. We have two head injuries. Now we have a psychotic cousin who has shown him murderous photographs, raping photographs. He's shown him all this.

And then straight up murdered someone in front of her. And then straight up murdered a woman who is supposed to be his wife in front of Richard. Now, what the hell is gonna come out of that? Damn. Because now Richard is seeing not only how to take from women, but also this is just what the world is.

This is what it is. Yeah, well that was his world. You get mad, you shoot her in the face. That's just how it is. Then you only serve four years. And exactly, and I'm bet that's cemented in his head that like, oh, well you, you know, you get what you want and nothing's gonna come of it. That's so messed up. There's also a little kid playing outside right now. Yeah.

And I keep hearing a little kid voice and it's low key freaking me out. Yeah, I heard that too. It's too late. Go to bed. It's barely summer anymore. Yeah, it's really creepy actually. I'm not fan. I'd rather that coy-yote that was like, WHOO! I like that you just keep saying Koryo. I know. People are gonna be like, you know it's a coyote, right?

I feel like yes, I do, okay. I know. So, after this whole fun period of life, at just 13 years old, the logical thing is for Richard to move in with his sister Ruth and her husband, right? You know, that's fine. Except her husband happened to be a disgusting peeping Tom.

Oh, what was up with his fam? And decided to take Richard under his wing and show him how to be a disgusting peeping Tom. What the f**k? So essentially, Richard Ramirez went through, like like he got like a master's degree in being straight up he fucked up monster like he literally from the jump like he was drained he was child abuse he was literally trained so he literally showed him the ropes of being a fucking perverted loser you now her husband Now, her husband was also a drug addict and got Richard into acid for the first time when he was in ninth grade. Were you addicted to acid?

Well, he started, he took a lot of hallucinogens. He started taking like, Richard or the husband? Well, the husband and Richard started taking a lot. He took a lot of drugs later. Oh, damn. Which is why his appearance suffered. His appearance fell apart because he was just fucking a lot. He took a lot of drugs later. Which is why his appearance suffered. His appearance felt apart because he was just fucking a maniac. Well that does.

It does, you shit to your brain. Oh yeah. And this is also when he started, because he was grown up in a Catholic household. But this is when he started questioning all of that and deciding to rebel against it. And he decided he was going to turn to Satanism. And he turned to like, because you know, Satanism isn't actually that bad when you're really looking to it. Exactly, like the actual Satanists are not what this is. Like he was like a great character. These are the people that like give it a bad name.

Exactly, like he made it into what everybody thinks it is. Exactly. Like what, what Satanic panic was all about. Which is shitty for the people that are actual just like like you like to look at like I'm not like I mean we're not saying we're Satan is no I'm not any religion I'm agnostic I don't know what the hell is going on. But I just wanted to be clear that like we're not saying like this is what Satanism is. Yeah. And also ACDC was his favorite band at the time and bomber for acdc because the media like demonized them like basically they found out that he

was that they were his favorite band and that he loved them and they basically like they don't they essentially like blamed them and it's like dude just because this fucking tool bag took lyrics way too seriously and took them in a totally different direction so many people have crazy lyrics like have you ever listened to them and them exactly and it's like you can't blame artists no no they're just letting out they're actually letting it out in a good way exactly outside is so spooky every noise I hear like mother fucker mother fucker I know when I feel bad people's windows are probably open

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exclusive podcast Killer Psychie daily in the Amazon Music app Download the app today. So at 16 years old because yeah, he's only 16 years old right now All of this has happened and the first 16 years and that's the I actually meant to say doing any kind of drug before you're like Oh, yeah, because you're what you always used to tell me when I was in high school I do drugs Because you're what you always used to tell me when I was in high school. You're from drugs. Your frontal lobe isn't formed. And it's your basis for reasoning and reading and listening. And I listened. And logical, yeah.

And logical, rational. And if you're starting to fuck with your brain chemistry before that's formed, it can stop forming. And then you're really fucked. Well, when they look into killers and stuff like that, they always check out their frontal lobes. Yeah. Isn't that out of the mark for like formed correctly. Isn't that where you can tell if head trauma happened Like doesn't affect something in the frontal lobe. Well head trauma can affect anywhere. Oh, okay depends on the trauma

Like where is you know like it can basically but it can make it so that your frontal lobe doesn't correctly Yeah, especially if you hit like a a certain spot. In the frontal areas. Yeah. Science. Science. See, I listened to you for all those years. We did. I'm proud of you.

I learned stuff. I learned things. So, at 16 years old is when he began to work at the holiday in. He likes. So, he tried to get a job and like actually do things. But while he was working there, he stole a key card. I was gonna say, why the fuck do you think he was working at the holiday in? And he broke into a room and he attempted to immediately rape a woman who was coming out of his shower.

She's as crazy. You immediately attacked her. But her husband had just left the room to go get something and came back when this was happening. And the husband literally beat him to a fucking pulp. Like, he's been hit on conscious, which good on him. And that's awesome, but what's not awesome is the fact that he fucking got away with this, because the couple was from out of state and didn't want to come back to deal with the trial, so no charges were provved.

The hotel couldn't even do anything? No, well, it's the people who would have to. But he got fired, I'm sure, but like, no charges were brought against him. So just another thing of... So I can get away with this. Once again, he's emboldened to think he can literally get away with anything. He's seeing evidence of it. He saw Mike literally shoot his wife in the face and kill her right in front of

them and get four years. That's just a fucking nuts. He attempts to rape a woman and he gets zero because they don't, and I don't, I mean, especially at this time, I mean it's still awful for a really nice lady. It was so fucking hard to come forward because your, like, assholes are always gonna be like, what did you do to invite this? You know, like, people? And back then it was even worse. Oh yeah. I'm sure people just didn't want to deal with it.

And to come back into a state, you're not even from tap to deal with this shit is like, now, at this time, so there was one person in Richard Ramirez's life who was close to him. And was not a shipbag? No, she was, well, she's not shipbag, I should say that. But she had some tough, a tough deck of cards laid out.

Okay, do tell. Her name was Donna Mayas, and she ended up not only being his best friend and roommate later, but she was also instrumental in his capture. Okay. So she's not a shipguard. So she turned out, she's definitely not a shipguard, but she's just, she was a love

and a best life at this time. Right. So she met him in 1979, and it was when she went down to El Paso with her friends Armando Rodriguez and Tony Reyes. And they were two of her friends from the San Francisco area, which is where they were from. Okay. Now Armando knew Richard.

So that's how they all kind of got together when she went to El Paso. And according to Donna, she said when she first met Richard, quote, I thought he was a real nice guy. So she couldn't have been more wrong. Now we seem that way. Another little thing about people who were slightly close to him was another childhood friend named Rhaegar Sia said about Richard, quote, we thought he was sick.

He had this disease. Everything would stick to his fingers. We called him Ricky the klepto. Oh, because he was a huge thief by this time like when he was 16 17 18 He was fucking a kleptomania. He stole everything all the time And throughout his murders, you'll see every single murder. He stole shit from their house It was always part of trophies. Yeah now

It was around this time when they came to El Paso and they all met. He actually followed them back to California and he started living on like Skid Row. Oh. So he slept in park cars, he slept in alleys and you would come to sleep in there. You would not sleep in there. You would not sleep in your fucking garden, Richard. Richard, Richard, Richard. Richard, Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard in there. I believe you can have it by. It's yours now. It's yours.

Congratulations. When you could like, scrape money together, he would sleep in like a flop house, you know, and then like, right. But so now Donna, who ended up being coming one of his really good friends. In an interview, she said, quote, we'd see him in San Pablo at least once a month.

He'd do his laundry and stay the day. He dressed in dark clothes, always dark clothes. He liked to eat junk food and yogurt, Pepsi and country yogurt. He'd put in a splits and he never brushed his teeth. He carried a backpack and a small satchel. He had his clothes, vitamins and tapes in them. He always can't even walk him in tape player and more black baseball cap. And I thought he thought enough to take vitamins but not to brush his teeth. But no first teeth. It's like vitamins are gonna help you if you have... If you're teeth are rotting inside of your body. Seriously. And he became very adept at stealing cars.

Oh, sure. Which is important because he stole cars all the time to bring to crime these crime scenes. It helped him because he was never driving the same car. So it was just another way that he had zero pattern, zero, anything that they could like latch on to to try to catch him. Well, he didn't really have a home base either, so I'm sure that was like a tough one. Exactly. Because it's like when you're living on the street, it's so easy to just disappear into the night.

Yeah. Damn, that's fucked up. I don't know if this is stupid or not, but sometimes I get the cases of the green river killer and the night stock are confused. Like I tied different details and I'm like oh shit that was not them. I could see that. Well it's the same um the same detective got them. Oh Frank Salar no huh. He's like a rock star. Cool. Wait the green river killer or killers. Killer. It was only one. Get it right. No that's not what I'm thinking of then. Who's that?

The little side-stranglers? Maybe that's what it is. That I get confused. I mean, they're definitely different, but they worked in California. So, yeah, so he ate like shit. I like that he mixed yogurt in there too. I know he's like gotta get those, you know, cultures. Yeah, his life cultures. like got to get those you know cultures in the lives cultures. Activities? No, I was trying to think of a word. It's like Jamie Lee Curtis.

Yeah. Is that what you think of? Yeah, I was trying to think of like like animals. I allowed to say all these things. I think they've got bacteria. Why can't I think of the name? Probiotics? Probiotics.

Yeah, I was thinking of Jesus. I have a moment So yeah, he was he just ate like shit. He lived off of junk food. He lived off of soda Candy and then on top of it. It's like that's one thing you're already gonna Fuck up your body that way, but he didn't not brushing your teeth Like that's just so fucking gnarly. So his teeth were fucking garbage. He got garbage So So fucking gnarly so his teeth were fucking garbage. He got garbage too So how do the people in your house to stop moving around? They're really freaking me out stop living everybody sit down

Until we are done Same with the co-so what about halitosis so halitosis was something he became pretty known for. Oh god. Because his future victims all said he smelled like fucking shit. Do you know that halitosis is the first thing I learned about in hair school? That's really funny. Because you're so close to people. They literally have a whole chapter dedicated to halitosis and like personal hygiene and body care.

Because there, I remember, because honestly, someone would gnarly aspere stay with you forever. That memory of that person will connect with that nasty gnarly aspere, because I remember I was on jury duty once. Oh no. It was a dude. And he was a very nice guy.

He was like very put together, very clean. And he was like just chatting with me. clean, and he was like just chat. Some people get halitosis. We had the worst breath, and I remember literally sitting there and being like, I'm gonna be barred. I'm not shy. Yeah. It is nauseating. I used to work when I grow that up with the bad halitosis. I'm like, you're like, you're like, you're like, what's happening? It can be like something in your stomach, like causes it. It can be like bad gut shit, like causing it, which is sad. And it's not always people's fault. No, it's not.

Hallitosis in general isn't. No. Hallitosis brought on by this shit is... No, that was 100% as well. It's just pressure fucked, yeah. This is like preventable. I'm like maybe eat a vegetable. Just like gargolsome whispering every once in a while.

Throw a mint in there. I don't know. Hallitosis is low key my biggest fear. I have mints in every single one of the colors. I have them everywhere. So yeah, Halitosis, his fucking teeth were garbage. Yummy! And it was sometime in like 1984 which is when he started his craziness. That Donna, this Donna lady, said that he started taking cocaine. Oh shit. And he soon started dissolving the cocaine in water and shooting it.

Oh, yeah. She said, quote, he broke off a needle in his arm one day. Oh my god! That's what he told me. He ran to the hospital and they had to cut the needle out for him. He got so hooked on cocaine. He just waked out Fuck so he was like he was literally taking hallucinogens He was I mean you smoke your marijuana, but I don't know Yeah, it's not a very violent

But on top of everything well, yeah, and then so he's literally shooting. He's always out of it He's taking hallucinogens. He's doing all this shit. Well, cocaine can lead to like, fits of rage. Oh yeah, yeah. Cocaine is scary. So this is when he really dove into the devil stuff, like the devil worshipping stuff. Oh yeah.

Donna said quote, he really got into it. He drew a satanic star on the upper part of his arm. He drew a- she called it a witch's star. He looked good. She's the her quote on it. He drew a witch's star in a circle on his stomach, so a pentagram. Right. And wanted to get it tattooed on. He used palm readers. He would say Satan is a supreme being like we worship God. He would tell me that Satan watches over him so he doesn't get caught or get hurt. Oh shit. Now, oddly enough, his first murder, which happened in the year 1984,

wasn't discovered to be linked to him until 2009. Oh, damn. When they used DNA analysis to link it to him. And it was a nine-year-old girl. Oh, my God. And he never confessed to this one. Which some people are like, oh do you think it was like he had some kind of remorse? No, I think he just knew. I think one,

he either didn't want to get beat up in prison. He probably might not have even remembered doing it. Because who knows how many of these even remembers? Because it was so strong out. And two, he probably just doesn't give a shit. And he did so much shit. It's like, well, and especially when you're in prison already, don't they like certain prisoners get like real pissed off if you have killed kids? But he already had a few that he confessed to,

so he was already in deep shit that way. Oh damn. But like at this time, he started kidnapping and raping little girls for a little spell. Yeah, he was a fucking demon. Oh, I hate that. Um, February 20th.

Now, this is, we're gonna start going into this. And again, I said this is gonna be a two-partar. So we're gonna talk about a couple of these cases and then we will die back into a next week for part two because we don't want to. We don't want to. This is overwhelming for sure. And it gets real dark, real fast.

And I really love that there's still fucking kids playing outside and it's freaking you out. And they're like making weird, like it sounds like the Blair Witch. When like, member there in the tent and all those little kids' hands are on the tent. I wish you didn't play that side. It sounds like that though. It does sound like that. Like, please stop. So here we go.

Trigger warning everybody. Because we're starting off with kids. Ugh. So February 26, 1985, was a six-year-old girl. Oh my god. He didn't kill her, but she told so when she was discovered alive. She told authorities that she was kidnapped from a bus bench while waiting for her older sister. He stuffed her into a zipped laundry bag. What the fuck?

molested her and then dropped her off somewhere else. And then he did it again to another little girl. Like why? March 11th, a nine-year-old Monterey Park boy, was kidnapped from his home in the middle of the night sexually assaulted and then left an lesion park near Silver Lake. These are all him. Now June 28th 1984. Mosfer Day. Mosfer Day is a lot of me. I know. An elderly woman named Jenny, and I don't have her last name here, so I might need to add that later. She was stabbed, he broke into her home, she was stabbed repeatedly while she was sleeping and he raped her. He also cut her throat so deeply that he almost decapitated her.

Oh my God! March 17, 1985. 22-year-old Maria Hernandez and 34-year-old Dale Ocaszaki, these are two women. They lived together as roommates. Maria was coming home from work and it was at night, so she pulls into the garage and she goes to close the garage door and he's snuck in under the door. He just immediately points a gun at her, a 22 caliber handgun. He shoots. I know this like kids like legitimately playing outside right now. And I don't know what to do. And I don't know what to do.

I'm like, what do I do? I'm like, what do I do? How do I make this stop? So he shot the gun at her. But, and this is like, I'm fired. It's like, it's super he or she. No. Oh, crazy.

She happened to have her keys like on her finger, looped on her finger and like on her palm like she held up her hands and The bullet hit the key and ricocheted off Holy shit. Now she had the presence of fucking mind to drop to the floor and pretend that he hit her and pretend she was dead Oh my god walked over her and into the house, but unfortunately, Dale had heard the gunshot so she hid under a counter and when she peeked out to see if she had gone. No, he shot her in the face. Oh my god. Maria survived, but unfortunately her roommate was killed.

That is so horrible. Now, he wasn't finished that night. That's same night. He found 30-year-olds, Saulian you? No. She was pulled over her car and he walked up to her car, yanked her out of it, screamed at her, calling her bitch. Because that was his ammo, which we'll find out later. He constantly would say, like, the same line, line like shut up bitch or I'll kill you.

She's us. And and actually what's crazy is he said it so many times and it was reported so many times from survivors that he used like the same line that when they did like get him and they had somebody look in a lineup, they had everybody in the lineup say shut up bitch or I'll kill you so that they could say like that, who he is. Holy fuck. Which is kind of interesting. That is. So when you pulled over, he yanked her out, screamed at her, and then shot her several times. She died the next day.

Oh my god. March 20th of the same year, an eagle rock girl, little girl, is kidnapped and sexually molested by a man who breaks into her family's home at night. Oh my god. March 27th, now this one's rough. This is when he like, he, he ratchets things up a little bit here. This is when he started like, really getting a stride of like fucked upness. March 27th of the same year. He hit the home of 44-year-old Maxine and 64-year-old Vincent Zazzara. Now, he broke into their home at 2am. Vincent was asleep on the couch, which always seems like a bad idea in these stories. There's so many stories of the husband was asleep on the couch.

Don't sleep on your couch. Sleep in your house. You just fell asleep. But don't do that. You're just sitting duck. I feel like it's just sleeping on your couch is for dead people. Exactly. Well, this whole story is a lesson that I've already taught you all, which is fresh airs

for dead people. Close your window. Close your door to him. Because he was just coming into these houses. So Vincent was asleep on the house on the house. He was on top of the house You know, you know, it's comfy sometimes. I said you can't sleep You know just try it on the house. He was on the couch. He's on the couch Cow so these kids are messing me up. Yeah, for real Richard walked right up to him and shot him in the head as he saw Oh my god, dead

Maxine was sleeping upstairs in the bedroom We're going We're going And she immediately was like What the fuck so she grabbed Vincent's shotgun Hell yeah And she was like I'm gonna fuck this guy up Which this all could have ended in this moment

Which is very devastating. What happened? So she grabs the shotgun, she walks, she fucking has it out and Richard comes up and she goes, click. It was empty. It was empty. Oh my god. You want to know what's even worse? No. It was empty because Vincent had taken the bullets out a couple days earlier because their grandchildren had visited and he wanted to be a safe caring grandfather and not have bullets in his gun. Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god. Why don't you tell her? So he literally was being a good grandfather and removed the bullets from the gun and so she if she had done that

boom Richard repairs would be done this would be the end of it I fucking hate that it's can you imagine like do you know that feeling when your stomach's gonna follow your butt like when she did the like and it just went you just know that you're gonna imagine I'd be like what the actual fuck unfortunately Richard had bullets in his gun and he shot her three times in the chest. Luckily I guess she died pretty instantly. Yeah no you wouldn't want to suffer. But then Richard got like theatrical. Oh god. He gouged her eyes out of her head. He literally scooped them right out. He stabbed her left breast like very intensely Like they said it was like a T shape ripping wound. Oh, he cut her face all up

He cut her pubic reason regional epithemic and her neck He then put her eyes in a jewelry box and took them home with him. What the fuck? Yeah well her eyes in a jewelry box and took them home with him. What the fuck? Yeah. Well, luckily, because this did help later. It didn't help at the time, but later, I guess this was a good thing. He left his ACDC hat at the same scene because he's a fucking dumbass. Wow. Which he was probably really mad for today, but oh yeah. Like, think about it. You leave your favorite things like the scene of me girls. I'm on my pink shirt back. I want my ACKC hat back. He's like yelling it in prison. He's like driving by the house yelling at a window. God. So he now this is this is kind of synonymous with him. Like it's a very infamous part of this case.

Is he also left a sneaker print at this scene. Oh yeah. And which is not always great evidence, but in this case... I think it must be having like a sleepover or something. I thought like an angry dad was in the air. I didn't know that was like, oh, domestic assault. I, it's happening on the podcast. Like, as we might have a case unfolded for you. Well, some will be back next week. We can figure this shit out. So yeah. So the sneaker print was the brand of Via.

Or Avia? I think it's Avia. Is it Avia? I don't know. I've heard it said both ways. It's one of them. I think it's a Via, actually. OK.

I don't know. Either way. I think Avia sounds better.. Okay. I don't know either way. I think it sounds better. It does. It might be a via It's a pretty specific brand obviously not We wear like probably tattoos and it ended up being that this specific Chewprint was found at every scene So this is how they were able to connect all the scenes, part of how they were able to connect all the scenes, and it's gonna be like, well, this is one fucking dude. And they were probably like, what the fuck?

Well, for a while they were like, this has to be multiple people. Because there's just so many. There's just so many. Now, May 14th, 1985, it was married couple Bill and Lilian Doye. Now, Lilian was an invalid who was bound to a hospital bed. I believe she had like cerebral pals. Now, they slept in separate bedrooms because of this because she had to be in a hospital bed. Uh-huh. So Richard broke into their house and immediately shot Bill in the face. Oh my god!

Bill didn't immediately die. Holy shit. So Richard beat him unconscious. Then he found Lilian sleeping in her fucking hospital bed in a separate room. He bound her with thumb cuffs. Those were the things that hurt her. He fucking bound. And then he raped her and invalid. Like what the fuck is wrong with you? He didn't even do anything about us.

And he noticed she's in a fucking hospital bed. Now Bill woke up. Holy shit. He's been shot in the face and fucking hospital. Now Bill woke up. Holy shit. He's been shot in the face and beat unconscious and he just woke up, saw what was happening. Obviously couldn't fight back. So he crawled to the phone and dialed 911 to get somebody there for his wife. No way. Then he fell back into unconsciousness, Richard heard this happening and he split because he knew police were coming. So Lillian survived and Bill ended up passing away.

Oh no! But the cops said she only survived because he- Because of Bill. Like his heroic effort of crawling to the phone police. I was like you didn't die though. I was the survivor. I was the survivor. I know.

It's awful. Now, I can't imagine. Ugh. That like stresses me out. Because I wouldn't even want to live right I know I don't know how you go without your significant other and all that promise like oh now I'm gonna I think we'll end on this next one and this next one and this possibly the worst one great so there's way more after this but this is a

really bad one so hold on to your butts. I like when you say that makes me laugh. May 29th. So this was only a like a couple, like a week and a half after this last one. So he's really like on a tear. He went to the home of 83-year-old M old Mabel, Mabel, which is people call their Mabel. Falk him. And her friend who lived with her 81 year old Florence laying.

Not like literally go fuck yourself or two. He breaks into the house. He sees a hammer on the counter. No, no, no. He bludgins Mabel, then he bludgins Florence. He then returns to Mabel. And he's like, huh, she's still alive.

Even though he like cracked her skull open, she's an 83 year old woman. So he's like, hmm, what else can I do? So he grabs a lamp, he rips the cord out, and he pulls the wires out of the cord, and he just starts shocking her. What the fuck? She was alive this whole time. Nobody knows how long he did these like tortured them, and he tortured them. He then raped them both. Ew, what the fuck? Grabbed? He wasn't done.

He then grabbed a tube of Madel's lipstick and drew a pentagram on her inner thigh. What? What a theatrical piece of shit. After all that, he sat down. He had a can of soda, he ate two bananas, he peed in their toilet and didn't flush the toilet. What a dick. He's just fucking rude. He ate their bananas.

Now, yeah. He like ate the food just sat there. I don't know if I'm fair a little bit. Okay, Joe, dance alone. This is awful no matter what, but both of the women were alive still. Well, he was just hanging out. Yep. They lived for three more days.

Oh my god. And it was three days later that a handyman found them. Still alive. So they were just like laying there? Yep. They could have moved or something like that. Because they were so. Both of them had multiple skull fractures.

There was brain matter exposed. I mean it was bad. How were they alive? They both ended up dying from their injuries, but they survived for a few days. That's almost worse. So yeah, great. And we're not even... Or to come last week.

We're like halfway there. And it's just said more to come last week. Now let me just give you a little bit of hope for the future here. Because the way Richard Amira's is caught most satisfying. It's like a parade almost. Amazing. Like, it's good. Like, trust me.

You're gonna, you're gonna feel great at the end of it. It's fucking nice. Like, have a party. And, you know, we'll definitely wrap it up next week with a nice little bow. So. And you know what, maybe not even next week because we're gonna try to record it tomorrow. Yeah, I think we're gonna, yeah, I think we'll just

give you a little prezzy. Yeah, we're gonna give, I think we're just gonna bang them both out. Yeah. We're just gonna give them to you all in one. A two episode week. A two episode week because, you know what, you guys have been so radical.

You guys are the tits. In amazing. We love you. And supportive and just awesome. We love your messages. Yeah, you guys have been rad. And your likes and comments. And your comments and your comments.

And we give you two episodes. And we're going to give you both the parts this week so you can just you can finish it all up in one sitting if you want to. Should we take a request for the next week? Yeah. Let's take a request. So, people have given us a lot of requests. So maybe I'll go through and we'll go through and look and see which one we want to do next week. Because maybe we'll hit like a less

dramatic one or a less dramatic one. Maybe. I mean, they're all going to be pretty rough with murder. This one's like a different level. So, hell yeah, we'll take it down in our next week I'm excited and yeah, and we're gonna be Coming up with some bonus episode ideas. Yeah, it's almost the first We can give some bonus episodes to our patreon donors. I know the first isn't like two weeks. I know So I think we're gonna try to do maybe like a fun Horror movie review. Yeah, yeah, which I think it would be fun I think we should do like one of the fun 90s horror movies. Oh, yeah. Which I think would be fun. I think we should do like one of the fun 90s horror movies.

Oh yeah, we have to do a 90s fun. From like my age groups heyday. And basically like what you raised me on. I was gonna say what I basically shoved down your throat like her. We should do the craft. Even though that's not really a horror movie. I'm pretty still great.

It is a good one. Fun fact, Elena showed me that movie when I was approximately like five to six years old when you were babysitting me. Yeah, far too low. I was very young. Like I would never show that to my children. Yeah, you fucked me up.

You were like Miguel. You were Miguel. I just kidding. You were my Miguel. You said you showed me the ways of creeping. I did not have the enemies. Photos. No, no. No, I was not sure.

I didn't think. But I'm sure, did I ever show you rotten.com? That wasn't something that you guys, oh no. This was like a right of passage of creepiness. What is it? My age, rotten.com. Is it horrible? It's pretty awful. It's just all like pictures of dead people.

Oh, like various accidents. No, that's horrible. It's pretty awful. You can't show it to a kid. Oh, fuck no. I would never show it to a kid. But every single one. Oh, don't think, do you thought on American horror story? Doesn't she? Oh no, she goes on like the dark web. That's that's very different. I don't even know if I want to cover the dark web in any way because I mean that's like a whole not very inviting weird shit. Not even that, it's honestly like too much. I don't want to research it.

It's like has to do with like children and stuff. No, no, no, no. It's nowhere I want to be. No, rotin.com is more like fucking you're a sicko and you just want to look at pictures of somebody that got hit by a train. Yeah, I don't want that. It's like faces of death. Those are like the same thing.

They're like videos of people getting hit by a train or something. No, that's horrible. I don't want to watch that. It's fucked up. It's like what? But so many people used to look at that one. I mean, there's like, whatever I like to do your thing. It was like a more of a curiosity kind of thing. Yeah, I know. Like, shout out to all my friends out there.

I have like a very small, small, gauge of creepiness. Mine is much more. Like, I'm interested in true crime and that's it. Yeah. My netcuffs, much wider. Yeah, you like like like a crime scene photos Yeah, you like like a crime scene photos?

I never look at the crime scene photos. Well, I think it's all like, I always wanted to do autopsies. So I think I was just repairing myself for not being shocked. Yeah. I like glamour. I'm like, I'm not shocked. I used to watch America's next top model. That was like my first shot call.

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