Morbid - Episode 147: The Mysterious and Tragic Death of Kenneka Jenkins

Episode Date: June 14, 2020

This case is baffling and seems like it deserves a second look. 19 year old Kenneka Jenkins was found dead of exposure, in a hotel freezer (with the door latched) after attending a hotel room party that same evening. There is a trail of strange Facebook Live videos and choppy surveillance film that provide more questions than answers. Is this a terrible and tragic accident or did something more sinister happen to Kenneka? Thanks to our sponsors! Skylight Frame Now, as a special holiday offer, you can get $10 off your purchase of a Skylight Frame when you go SkylightFrame.com and enter code MORBID. FirstLeaf Sign up today to get 6 bottles of wine for only $29.95, plus free shipping for a year! Just go to Try Firstleaf.com/MORBID.  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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of your home. Download the free Angie mobile app today or visit Angie.com. That's ANGI.com. Hey weirdos, I'm Ash. And I'm Alaina. And this is a mini morbid kind of. Mini, mini, mini, mini, mini morbid. Mini morbid, mini, mini, morbid. But it's like a full legs one now. It's like a full-ish length because it's ash So it's like a long mini. Yeah, exactly and this one's an important one. This is a very important one But before I tell you what it is, we do just quickly want to tell you about some dates for the tour Yeah, it's important. We just run through these real quick because you know, with the

COVID just floating around, it's messed up a ton of dates. So we just want to make sure everybody has it all in one place. Nobody's confused about their tickets or anything. So just bear with us. We're going to do a real quick. And like we've said before, if you had tickets for one show and the date got changed, that is still your ticket. You still have tickets for your show. So we're not being said on August 11th We're going to be at the Punchine comedy club in Philadelphia Whoo, but that is actually going to be changing. Yes, that will be changing It's not going to be August 11th. We just don't have a date. Yeah, but right now, so we won't be there

August 11th Because that was fun anyways, but you know what? So keep an eye out. If you have a Philly ticket, that's going to change. Got to change subject to change. Actually, all of these are subject to change pretty much. I know because honestly, these dates are locked in right now, but we all know we don't know what's going to happen in the fall.

COVID could just come roaring again, but we don't know. I think your thrust doesn't know September 16th, 2020 will be at the DC improv in Washington DC. Monument September 23rd. We're going to be at Zane's in Nashville for an early and a late show. Fingers crossed, guys. I'm crossing my fangs. September 24th, we're going to be at stand-up live in Huntsville, Alabama. I want to be with you, Alabama.

Me too. Then we have two shows at Talia Hall on October 11 in Chicago. I'm so excited for that one. Today's case is kind of close to Chicago. Chicago. Well, then November 10th, we're going to be at the Comedy Zone in Charlotte, North Carolina. Charlotte, we're coming.

11, 11 make a wish because it's November 11th. We're going to be at the Good Night's comedy club in Raleigh, North Carolina Ooh good luck. Yeah, and then what's three is that March? Yeah I hate myself three. What's three March 26th? We're going to be at the Wilba Theta in Boston guys Come on buy tickets to that one because we'll be there by March. For sure. March, COVID is going to be a distant memory. We're all going to be like, like, fuck that guy. It's so cool. Everyone buy tickets to the Wilba Show because it's going to be great. It's going to be so beautiful. So great. And then one last show on January 27th, we are going to be in Greenwood Village, Colorado. So, if you have a ticket for that,

you probably got an email that it changed to January 27th. That is currently like the placeholder, so hopefully it's then, but subject to change. Yeah, just like all these dates, that's the date right now, but everybody keep an eye out. We'll try to keep you a breast of the situation, who I don't like that at all.

We're gonna keep you informed about this whole thing as we hear it. So just keep an ear out, keep an eye out. We're gonna keep you informed about this whole thing as we hear it. So just keep an ear out, keep an eye out, we'll let you know. We'll keep you a chesticle to the situation. We'll keep you a chesticle of the situation. Perfect. And now, because this is a quote unquote, many, no more bit, no more bitness.

No more bitness. No more bitness. Okay. Well, this week I'm going to be talking about an extremely important case. What is it? I'm going to be talking about Kaniika Jenkins. This is a wild case.

Wild case. Before I start this case, I want to say that I am completely in the middle. I have not made an opinion yet. Yeah, it's a really hard case. It's a very hard case. It's a very hard case. It's really hard. Before I start anything, I want to say that I full-heartedly can see both sides.

I can see thinking she was murdered. Maybe she was. I can see thinking maybe she just ended up in the freezer somehow. An accident. An accident? I can see that. I can totally see both sides. And I think, I mean, I respect both sides. Tell can totally see both sides and I think I mean I respect both sides

Tell me what you think keep it respectful. Yeah, we What the reason we're kind of saying this at a time is this is not gonna be another Kendrick Johnson No, thank you where we were pretty clear that you know We formulated an opinion, but we also said we don't know right said, said, you know, have a nice discussion. And some people were straight up assholes in the comments. So we welcome debate that is respectful. But if you start to like come and say, we didn't do our jobs or were stupid or something, I'm just going to shut the comments off the block.

Because you know, we both put a lot of work into our research. And like, I mean, I double fact checked. I watched videos on this 42 different times. And it's one thing to say, hey, I found this bit of information about this. That's awesome. I love that. I welcome that.

Bring it, bring it for sure, because I want it. So just be respectful, because we are respectful of you. So, you know, and honestly, the majority of people, especially on the Kendrick Johnson episode, were super respectful. Yeah. They had additional information, or if they just straight up disagreed, which you have a lot to disagree. You're allowed to disagree, because there's obviously no actual legal conclusion to this

yet, because it has been reopened. I'm so sorry. Well, got a legal conclusion. But I just wanted to put that out there that we welcome respectful debates and we expect it especially especially because I said expect it. But we expect it especially during cases like this where it's such a high time. Yeah, and high emotions is a lot going on. So everybody be nice.

That's all we're asking. Okay. So was that being said? Kanika Jenkins was a 19 year old girl living in Laundale, Chicago. Chicago. Chicago. She was super hardworking. She had two jobs and she was planning on going to nursing school. For that young to have two jobs is pretty impressive. Pretty bad ass. Yeah. Everyone around Kanika said that she just loved to laugh. Oh. And if she was around you and you were in a bad mood, that was just not going to happen. I love people like that.

You can't be in a bad mood around me. Like, I'm going to make you laugh. I'm going to turn that frown upside down. She was. Everyone says she was sweet, loving, really great person, and everybody wanted to be around her. That makes me sad. Most of all people say they miss her voice and her laugh.

Oh, that's how I feel about my grandmother. So I feel like it's like whenever somebody says I miss their voice, it always like, her best friend is in an interview. Actually, Neve from Catfish started this like true crime show. I think like a year or two ago on MTV, it was like true life true crime. Oh really?

And this was the first episode existed. Yeah, it was a pretty good episode, but I didn't get a lot of stuff from it. Sounds kind of like a rip off of BuzzFeed unsolved. Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm just saying. Well, just sprinkle that in there. Yeah, you know, well, Niva's problematic, so. Yes, that's good. Mom, we like Ryan and Shane better. Yes. Well, this was the first episode. So I think a lot of people know the overview of this case, and I think, like I said in the beginning, it's really easy to come to many different conclusions. For sure.

And I think it's really important to look at all the theories surrounding Keneka's death so that you can come to your own conclusion. Yeah, for sure. Just facts, facts, facts. Facts, facts, facts. And there's also just a lot to look at in this case, to be honest with you. Yeah.

Because Keneka was found dead in a freezer. Which already, it's like, what? Suspicious as fuck, like what? It's like the Phoebe Hansjuk thing. It's like, well, well, well, this is a weird scenario right off the jump. Right, exactly. That one was like, who cut and dry 100%. Well, and we're going to be updating that one soon.

Yeah, we got it. So, yeah, she was found in a freezer on the property of the Crown Plaza Hotel on September 10th around midnight. And before that, she had been to a birthday party in one of the hotel rooms. Okay. So this hotel was located in Rosemont, Illinois, which is like a little less than a half hour from Laundale where she lived. Okay. It really wasn't that crazy that she and her friends were heading to this hotel party because this is something that they did fairly often. Yeah, hotel party. Hotel motel holiday is. Rosemont, first of all, is a pretty wealthy suburb and it has a ton of hotels. Like, if you look it up on Google, it's like, offers like this, this, and like many hotels.

We have tons of places to stay. Stay here. It's great. And it's a much safer place to hang out. But Rosemond's black population is only about 3%. Oh wow. And I think that's pretty important to keep in mind. Absolutely it is. Especially as we go over the details of some of this case. So Laundale, where Kanika and her friends were from, is one of the most dangerous places to live.

Okay. And I think she was on the west side, which is like specifically more dangerous. Okay. So just like a lot of crime. Yeah, it's not safe because there's various shootings, there's assaults. If I actually looked at it,

you know how you can look it up and see like how many like shootings and assaults are in a certain place. It was just like tons and tons and tons. Yeah, it's sad. But that, I mean, I think they were doing the right thing by going to another part of town. Like they were trying to stay out of trouble. Yeah, they were sad. But that I mean, I think they were doing the right thing by going to another part of town, like they were trying to stay out of trouble. Yeah, they were trying to stay out of her way in a safe place. Yeah. Right. So they're going to this party on September 8th.

They show up technically on September 9th because it's like 1.15 in the morning. So I'm going to say September 9th. Yeah. And they head up to the room where they're going to be celebrating their friend Irene Spurthey. OK. Now we're going to talk a lot about Irene later on. So over the course of the night, Kaniko went on Facebook live a lot and so did her friends, which I didn't even know there was a live feature on Facebook. I actually didn't either.

So that's really impressive. It is. So it's weird that cases now are starting to have this element to a lot of them are. People using Facebook Live and crime's happening like while it's happening or just being able to have that like breadcrumb trail.

Right. So yeah, I'm going to get more into that too. Like crime's happening while the Facebook Live is because there's a lot of wanderings around if this was happening while it was being broadcasted on Facebook live. So we should do a whole episode on Facebook live. Facebook live. Friends. Yeah, that's a good idea.

Yeah, or just live like on the internet. I like it. Yeah, well it's been a yeah. Well, it is brainstorming in the middle of it. Right. Well, in one video, Irene is on Facebook Live, and although there's a lot of background noise, you can definitely hear Kanika saying, girl, I'm not drunk. Okay.

I usually would someone says, I literally, I literally have that in my notes. Irene later says that Kaniko was very drunk actually, and that they were like a turn up crew is what she says. So it wasn't that weird that Kaniko was like super drunk. Okay. They were having a party. They were having a party in a hotel. Right.

That's the whole point is that you're in a safe place that you can go crazy. Exactly. So Irene says that that's how you knew that Kaniko was drunk when she was saying that she was. Which, and I literally wrote down, I was like, honestly, I think that's the case with everybody. Yeah, I think that's how you know I'm drunk.

That's the universal sign of I'm drunk. Right. I am not drunk. Well, I am not drunk. So there's a lot to unpack with the Facebook Live videos, but we're going to get to that in a minute. Okay. So Kanika and the forefrench, she went to the party with, decided to call it a night and

head home around 3 a.m. Okay. While they're heading out, Kanika realizes that she left her phone in the hotel room. So I've seen two variations of what happens now. In one scenario, her friends leave her in the hallway and they head back up to grab her phone. Okay. And then in another scenario, they're already outside and Kanika goes back in to get her phone.

Okay. So either way, there's security footage of Kanika by herself wandering through the hotel room. So at one point, she's alive. She's alone. Yeah, for a good period of time, she's alone and alive. Okay.

And she's actually on security footage and she is very clearly very inebriated. Okay. And she's actually on security footage and she is like very clearly like very inebriated. Yeah. Like should not have been like just going to say so she shouldn't have been left alone. No rule of thumb and I'm not saying her friends did anything wrong here. I'm not trying to make anybody feel guilty. But if your friends are super drunk and like your super drunk stay together. Yeah. Do not split up. Don't let your friend go home with someone. No. Don't let your friend go in somewhere alone. Because they're gonna be, they might be mad at you in the moment. But they're gonna, they're gonna get it when, you know,

all been in a situation where you've been like, no, but you can't do that. Yeah, you can't I feel. And your friends like, fuck you. And then the next morning, you're like, oh my god, thank you for not letting me do that. Exactly. When they, when they wake up alive, the next day, they're gonna thank you for it. Right. So like I said, she was not in a state to be left alone. You can turn up as much as you want to, but stick together. Stick together. So around 3.30 a.m. Keneka's friends are like, okay, we still haven't linked back up.

Where is she? She's been gone and unaccounted for for a half an hour as far as they're concerned. Yeah. So they're like where is she at? And at this point, you see them on the hotel security video looking for Kanika, like they're wandering around the hallways. They're like, they went up to the front desk and they asked if they could see the security footage

and the guys like, no, like, no. And like, basically, Kanika's best friend, Brebury, she said that nobody wanted to help them. Like, nobody at the hotel wanted to help them. The security guard was like, you need to get out of the hallway, like get the fuck out of here. They were probably just like your drunk girls go away. Right, exactly.

It's just like a good job. And I don't think it helped that they were in a suburban community, like white area. A white area, unfortunately. Oh no, like sure that didn't work. I think they were treated less than. Absolutely. And no, I don't think they were, they just worked.

I was just gonna say that literally is what happened. Right. So they decided to call Kan going to say that literally is what happened. Right. So they decided to call Canika's mom because something is clearly wrong. Yeah. Because now it's 4am. Ooh. So they call her mom at 4am and they

tell her the situation. And they explain to her that they have Canika's keys and now they have her phone. So I'm assuming that the scenario where they went back together phone is what it really was. So Canika's mom's name Teresa. Okay. So when they call Teresa, she hops in her car, a sap and heads over there. Teresa. She goes into the hotel and she's like, I need to see the surveillance tapes. Like that's going to tell me where she is. Yeah, you don't stop a mama. No, the staff tells her that if she is going to see the surveillance tapes

that she needs to have a missing person's report That's the only way they can hand them over. So she's like cool. Let me go get one. I'll go get one weight here Yeah, like don't move so she calls the police and she tells them the situation. Oh, no now This is a case where I really hope the operator has like a little hindsight these days and wishes that they handled This a lot differently. Oh, this is gonna make me angry because I. Because I'm already was hyped up when I was getting this research together, but now I'm still like hyped up. Oh, okay. So, yeah.

She explains the situation and she literally tells the operator like, this is not right. Like, I don't feel right that this is not like Kanika. Yeah. And the operator goes, well, you know, she might be running around with friends or maybe she passed out at a friend's house. Like, let's give it a couple hours and if she still hasn't turned up call back.

So like, no, I just told you that this is not how she is and two, it's her friends who are telling me that she's not with that. So she's not with her friends. Like, what? So she's like, okay, well, can I file a missing person's report anyway? Like, I don't care what you have to say. Like, fuck off.

Like, you don't get to make this decision. No, this is not about you. So he's like, well, that could take a bit to get filed and then the security footage, it's gonna take a while to get that from the hotel and have the police go over it. So why don't you just wait a few hours and just like, he literally tells her to try and relax. So your solution to this is like,

well, it's gonna take a while. So it turned out, so like fuck it, right? Yeah, it's gonna take a while, so let's wait a while. What, you know what, paperwork is paperwork and like your kid will probably show up at some point. And it's like, you're telling her not only to, like that her kid is probably just wandering around. She's like, oh, I'm sorry, do you know her?

Or passed out. And then you're telling her to try probably just wandering around. She's like, oh I'm sorry, do you know her or passed out. And then you were telling her to try to relax. Yeah. And literally I quote, he was like, it might take a bit. It might take a bit. Like why don't I take this a little more seriously? And it's like, I don't care if it's gonna take a bit.

Right. I want to file the fucking report. Like, oh I'm sorry 911 operator. I'm so sorry to disturb you. Yeah, I'm bad. Sorry that I have to put paperwork on your desk. Yeah, shit. So she's like, okay.

Why in a missing person's case would you just wait a few hours? Yeah. We all know that that's the most crucial time is like the first few hours. Yeah, it doesn't make sense. It's really shitty, but okay. Okay. Teresa calls back in a couple hours

when her child still hasn't turned up because as we all know at this point, she's passed out in a freezer and at this point it's probably dead already in the freezer. Which is awful. So the police go to the hotel for the first time around 1pm on September 9th. So she's been missing since basically 3.30 and they just show up at 1pm when she the first phone call that she put into them was at 7 a.m. That's crazy. So why did it take that long? So she was finally able to file a missing person's report just a few hours earlier than the time that they showed up. I think it was like around like 10 or 11. So the police got there, they go, they do a search and nothing

turns up. Like they're looking around looking for Keneke, they don't see her and they're like, okay, like're gonna come back, but let's look at other possibilities. And she's like, no. So they leave and Teresa starts going door to door, like knocking on doors. Like for her. Yeah.

So then the fucking hotel has the audacity to call the police on Teresa, because they're saying that she's disturbing the guests. Uh, yeah, she's gonna disturb this whole fucking place until she finds out kids. Right. Exactly. Like, I'm sorry, are you mad at her? I would have turned that place inside out for my kid. So it's like, she was, I give this woman so much credit and my heart like genuinely breaks for her because you can see her, like knocking on the doors, like, just searching desperately for her because you can see her like knocking on the doors like

searching desperately for that. That really hurts, that like makes my stomach hurt just thinking about that. Yeah, so the hotel calls the police on her, they show up and then while they look over the footage of like they're trying to figure out they can see it can be gone the footage and then all of a sudden she just like disappears or something. A manager finds her in the freezer. Now at this point, she's dead. This is at 12.25 AM on September 10th. Wow. So that's 21 hours after she went missing.

Wow. 21 hours. Oh. And I'm sorry, but this all could have, like, if they had started this search earlier, they perhaps could have found her and like, maybe she could have been treated for hypothermia at this point.

Well, and it's like she might have still been alive. Well, a whole hell of a lot happened in that time. Like we don't know what happened. It's all time hours. That's a lot of hours counted for. Exactly. So, there's a lot of opinions about the demeanor of the employee that found Kanika's body, and I think it's weird.

Yeah. Personally, I just think it's super weird because he's not running back around the corner like with a freaked out look on his face. He's just walking back around the corner to like go get the police. He's walking like somewhat quickly but he doesn't look disturbed at all. Yeah, that's a little weird. And if you- Obviously you can't like, you know- I can't judge how somebody reacts to something. We always try to say, like we can't judge reaction because everybody reacts differently. But when you find a dead body in a freezer, well, especially the way that her body was found, like if you type in her name to Google,

it pops right up just FYI. Oh, I know. She's curled in the corner. One of her shoes is off. Like her shirt is ruffled up a little bit. I think she was wearing a little bit of a crop top, but she's very much in an alarming position. Yeah, and it should be an alarming to open a freezer

and see a body. Dead, so being. Right. So he calmly goes to get the police and tell them, so now the police and the medical examiners have to investigate whether this case involves foul play or if this is just a horrible accident. So the ME arrives at 3.08 AM. and I wanted to ask you, is that weird?

Because they found the body at 12.25 and the ME doesn't get there until three hours later. Oh yeah, that's a long time. Yeah, that's ridiculous. Yeah, that's a long period of time. Why did it take that long? It's just sitting there. That's the same thing that happened in the Kendrick Johnson case. Right.

Because it was a period of hours before they showed up and it's like, that's not normal protocol. Yeah, you're on call for a reason. And it's like, that's not normal protocol. Yeah, you're on call for a reason. And that's just not how you handle things. And it's that you're losing valuable information. Right. With those hours, you are losing a lot of information that you could get.

Well, at this point, they opened the freezer. So she's also, for lack of a better term, falling out. Yeah, exactly. So this is already, her body temperature and decomp and all that is already being skewed by this freezer time of death. Like it's already, you know, it's going to, that's going to stop like liver mortis.

It's going to stop like because basically it's like preserving it's literally preserving you. And so it's going to stop all these natural things from happening that help you date death. Right. Getting answers opening the freezer. So that's starting to thaw it out. So now we're accelerating slightly, but that's also skewing it.

So we've already, we're already skewing a skewed thing. Exactly. And it's like, I think of like, when we, because I do, like a rapid autopsy for research purposes. You, I've seen you get called in, you have to fly it. Yeah. We have to be in there by, I mean, at the very, I mean, two hours is pushing it, getting in there. Yeah, I would assume.

And so we like to be in there within the hour and starting that autopsy. Right. So hours is just not, it's unacceptable. It's just not. What were you doing? Like, it's the more your whole job is getting called into death scenes. Like, you were not dinner. So 12 p.m. when they called it, or 12 a.m. when they called, or 12 a.m. when they called.

You just set up, put your clothes on, or your scrubs on, tireshoes, like, hey. I don't know. So yeah, they arrive at 3.08 a.m. and then they transport her body around five. What are your thoughts on that? Ah, trans, I mean, cause what time did they get there?

They got there at 3.08 and they transfer her, I think it was at 5.15. I mean, that seems like a long time, but if they're, you know, doing stuff at the scene, like assessing the scene, I guess that could make sense. I thought it seemed like a long time, but that's obviously not my profession. It's not a hard place to get a body out of it. If it was like a difficult area, like sometimes in like the woods or in like water, something it'll take a long time because you're trying to get them out of where they are. But she was like right there.

Yeah, so. So this is just an easy, I don't know. Seems like a long time to assess it at a scene. That's what I thought, you know. Well, Teresa and Keneke's sister, Lenore, are able to see her body before they transport it. I love that name, by the way, Lenore. Lenore is such a cool name.

There used to be a client at the sauna worked out. Her name was Lenore and she was the sweetest woman ever. She's a cool name. It's a cool ass name. Sorry, that was such a side note. Well, so the toxicology report comes back and this is weird and I bet you'll have more to speak of on this than I will. But her blood alcohol level was 0.112. Oh wow. Which is a lot higher than the legal limit, which is 0.08. She's turning up. And Topierimate and alcohol were found in her system. So I'm not sure I'm saying that right.

I looked it up. Topierimate is a drug that can treat migraines and treat epilepsy. Oh, okay. Kanika didn't have epilepsy. Hey there, fellow podcast listener. It's Elena. And Ash, and we're taking you back to the days before streaming services. Whoa.

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medication. You can't drink with it. Right. Because so from someone who has migraine, in fact, had a migraine all last night. Exactly. Literally just coming out of the haze of a migraine. Right. You definitely think it was my case and not your ass.

I know. Because I'm still in like that woozy migraine area. But yeah, no. Well, and it's just weird that it was like to a pyramid in her system because that's not a party drug. And Irene, the friend from before, said that some of the people at the party did occasionally take pills, but Kanika was not into that.

She didn't like how they made her feel. And she, I think they said, like, maybe she tried it once and she was like, no, thanks, I'm good. And I can tell you every migraine medication I've taken besides, etc. in migraine has made me feel really woozy and yucky. It's not by any means something you would take to feel good.

No. They don't make you feel good. Well, it's not something she would take recreationally. No, it's not a party. The only thing I could think of is if she did as a migraine medication that she maybe, I mean, she was younger. Sometimes younger people don't listen to the rules of like, you can't drink on this. I've seen plenty of people. I definitely had drinking. Yeah, exactly. So maybe she just didn't, she maybe

she had a headache and she took it and then, but I wonder how she got that and so, like, you think the typical headache, like a 19 year old is going to take like, Advil or like Asperin or a leave or no. Maybe she was prescribed it. And her mom didn't really have anything to speak of. I was gonna say because she didn't say that she's suffering from migraine. No, like this wasn't something that was prescribed or... No, I have to say no migraine. No, okay.

So it was weird. You wouldn't take a migraine medication unless you have migraine. Right. So somebody was like, well, so this leads to the question was she drugged at the party that she was at. And again, I say that it makes it easy. That would be a good one to drug with because my last migraine medication, I literally couldn't function. Well, they're talking like not to drive and not to do anything. There's no way I could have.

And then the other thing is that alcohol and to be or may it went together, they heightened the effects of each other. Oh, yeah. So that's why she was so like, which alcohol is a depressant. Right. Well, and that's why she would, like, I'm not saying this in like a mean way. She was barely able to walk. Like at one point she,

she like walks a little bit into like a side railing and almost trips over it and has to level herself up. Yeah. So those two things together were probably just making, that's, she's drought tightening the experience. Like 100%. Yeah. So that's very, that's very that's interesting

I didn't know that little yeah, that is weird to me and all of her friends agree Like cuz Irene was saying like yeah, she tried it once and she didn't like it all of her friends and family agree that it was Not her deal to take pills and and she remember she wanted to go to nursing school So she wouldn't have drank and taken a migraine medication. Yeah, that's true a nursing school. So she wouldn't have drink and take in a migraine medication. Yeah, that's true. And again, that's not something you take to turn up. No, migraine medication. Definitely not. So the cause of death after investigation is reported accidental. It's ruled accidental. It says that Kaninka died of exposure and to the elements, the freezer.

Yeah. And that the alcohol and to pyramid in her system were basically contributing factors. Okay. So all the people at this party got cleared by law enforcement, okay, which I don't really know how they cleared all these people, but like, it's lost to me, like could go off this. It seems to me like maybe something happened at this party,

but we're gonna get there yeah so can you guess funeral drew hundreds and hundreds of people if you can see it online I watched like a little tidbit of it and then I'm not gonna lie to you I started crying because it was like people are so so so sad like because remember said, she was like, she was so loved and yeah, people that didn't even know her were coming to the funeral. So, and the people that didn't know her that were coming to the funeral, some of them were like going up to her mom to rest and like offering explanations for what happened.

And it's like, there's a time in a place and the funeral is not the time or the place. Like, that's not it. Yeah, it's like take a seat. No, exactly. Take a seat, several seats back. Like do not walk up to. Take a seat in your car and drive away. Yeah. Because I do not walk up to a grieving mother. No. Sit there and tell her what happened to her kid. Like I'm cool that you want to save the day, but can you fuck off?

For a minute. Like read the room. Right. So the funeral happens, so many people came and then Keneka's friends and family, and they all start to talk and they're like, we don't think that she just stumbled into that freezer, laid down and died. Like, we don't buy that. And the pictures from the freezer, that the family saw and that the public can see are definitely strange. And I could see why somebody would question like, what the fuck happened. Yeah. So, one of Keneke's shoes is completely off, which is leaving one of her feet bare. And on that bare foot, on the side of like closer to her heel, underneath her ankle, there's like a pretty significant scrape that was bleeding.

Okay. So she has a bloody foot, her shoe is off. Behind her is like a hair tie, and then in front of her is a tube of lip gloss. Okay. So there is this thing, I think it's called paradoxical undressing. Yep.

So people thought- Like in a diet- Yeah, that's what it reminded me of. People thought that maybe she was starting to do that like by taking the shoe off, and then like she just kind of passed out due to like the drug in her system and everything. I don't buy.

I don't buy the paradox sale and dressing. What I do think happened is that maybe she stumbled into the freezer and the door is really heavy. So it is weird to think that she stumbled into this freezer and was able to open the door. That is something that's very strange. And her mom is like, I don't think that she was going to be able to open that door. It just seems like a strange thing for a drunk person to do is like really struggle to open a door to get somewhere. Usually

they just try to like fall into whatever they can. Right. Exactly. So I mean, maybe she did fall in by accident. But what I think is that like, you know how have you ever tripped over a door kind of like in the door kind of like pulls your shoe. Yeah. I think her shoe, she tripped over the door, her foot got caught in the doorway, pulled off her shoe and also scraped like her ankle because the door was like metal. Yeah. She was probably sharp on the bottom. Or it scraped when she was dragged into the freezer. Exactly.

And it's not happening the same way. Exactly. You could see both. Yeah. So both of those make total sense. They make total sense. And so because of the way her body was found and the way this case was handled from You could see both. You could see both. Both of those make total sense. They make total sense. And so because of the way her body was found and the way this case was handled from start

to finish, people were outraged because they were like, no, like she didn't just fall in there. Like people thought she was carried in there. They're like, why was she off? And it needs to be more significant investigation into it. And there just really wasn't. Also I forgot to mention, her hair was also slightly matted, which you could explain because the, she was in a freezer and then they opened the door.

So it started to melt. So maybe like her hair got wet and matted that way. Okay. Or there is the possibility and some people think that she was raped. So your hair would get matted that way. Absolutely. So that did they check. I didn't find anything saying that they did check, but there's no information that she

was raped. Like, there's no either way. So, there's a possibility that that wasn't even checked. Right. And because it was ruled out, and I don't, they wouldn't. They wouldn't have checked. Yeah. So, people are pissed.

Protests start going on outside of the hotel. People online started offering up all these theories that it was a hit that was set up by her friends. That she was found in the freezer because somebody wanted to sell her organs on the black market. Damn. And that was the best way to keep them fresh. People say like I said that she was raped at the party. And people also wonder about the potential that maybe a security guard tried to assault her and she fought back. But yeah, that seems like it could be. Yeah, a possibility. And they think maybe she fought back

and something went wrong and he threw her in the freezer and dipped. And like you just said, that could explain why her shoe and her foot was scraped and why her hair was matted. Yeah. Both of those things make sense. They make perfect sense.

Now this is where it's gonna get like super, super intense. So we're gonna talk about some of these theories and depth and then I wanna go back to some of those Facebook videos. Okay. So there's the video of Irene where you can, like I said in the beginning, you hear Kanika saying like girl I'm not drunk. Okay. Right after that somebody says something like along the lines of okay like just enjoy yourself Kanika. So obviously something

was up at this party and she you hear her say back I am enjoying myself. Yeah. So it's like this is a strange interaction. Right. Then on another point in the video I read mentioned something to somebody in the background about $200. Okay. And there's been countless theories about what the fuck this $200 was about. So was it for Kanika's organs? Was it the price of the hit? Like people wonder all about that. The only interview that Irene has ever done is with this guy he's a YouTuber named Zach TV. Okay. And she explains that the $200 comment was in regards to the price of a lost parking ticket. So at this hotel, if you lost your parking ticket and you had to get your car out of the

garage, you had to pay a $200 like fine, basically. Okay. So, and it followed up, like if you looked at their rules of regulations, that's, they did charge $200. They did say $200. Yeah, because I've seen hotels charge. Right. I should turn for that.

Which is a little bit of ridiculous fee if you ask me. little bit of price gouging, but okay, but okay So that could potentially explain away that and I think that's a pretty good explanation, but I don't know I don't know. Yeah. I also this is just a side note. I think it's important to say Zack TV later died in a drive-by shooting. Oh shit. He was shot in the head in the neck. Oh my god That's so sad. That's really sad. Wow. People on YouTube and on other sites,

they've also slowed down the audio in some of these videos. And they cancel it like the background noise. So in one of the videos you hear somebody say, I think it's Irene, they stupid, they end there raping that girl. Ah, yeah. So I watched, Are you kidding me?

No, that's serious. But I watched one of the videos where they slowed down like the audio and they tried to like bring the noise levels up and you do hear they stupid. But I didn't hear the part where they said they end their raping that girl. Like I listened to it over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over.

And I couldn't hear it. It's like an EVP, it's hard to. Yeah, but if anybody else listens to that and they hear it, like I wanna know, like if I need my listeners, I wanna listen to it. I wanna listen to it now, I haven't listened to it. I'll send you the video. Yeah.

I'm not saying it's not there, I'm just saying I can't hear it. Huh. So if you go onto the YouTube and watch the video of Irene, there's all kinds of different timestamps in the comments where people hear like fucked up eerie things in these Facebook live videos It in the beginning you hear a male's voice and I heard this say we about to murder somebody Which is like that could be

We're about to murder somebody or it could be like you know what you're annoying me. I'm about to murder That can also be very ominous. Yeah, then at another point in the video, you hear someone say help me, and then I re-me terms the music up. Like real loud. I definitely heard, so the people say that you heard help me. I heard a squeaky noise that could have sounded like help me, but I didn't hear it very clearly say help me.

Okay. Now again, I'm not saying it's not there. I want everybody, if you feel like you want to, go listen to it and tell me what you hear. Yeah, I want to listen to it. And I want you to watch it and see what you hear. And then turning the music up right after that is very. That's the thing that made me feel weird.

And there's, you definitely hear something there. And it's like in a scared voice, I'm asked. Oh, yeah. There's also, now this freaks me the fuck out. There's also a point in the video where someone is holding the phone, but I mean it's still in the shot. And she goes to hit a blunt. And it kind of looks like she's saying

after she exhales help to the camera. But she doesn't say it out loud. And she makes the mouth the word help. And that, I saw clear as fucking day Really yes like clear as day if I show you and you don't see it I'm gonna lose my mind and to me that is Significant because it's not just a video being taken. This is Facebook live. So she's Hoping someone's seeing that right and then other people were saying cuz she's wearing sunglasses in the video

They are inside, but she's wearing sunglasses. And you can kind of see, some people think the reflection is of Kanika. I, it's so hard for me to tell in the video. But there's Kanika and some people say that it looks like a guy in a red sweater is above her. Okay. And like at some point, she says, she gets mad at him for something. I think she said, like, you slapped me or something, like, I'm out. She says something on this one. Canika says that.

Oh, that's huge. And then the guy says, are you gonna ride with me or not? Oh, that's, to me, this is already like, so there was some shit is going down. We're shit going down at the party, for sure. And it doesn't look like Canika is having one smooth time here. No, and the thing that I did here clear as day is somebody said, just try to enjoy yourself.

Yeah. She's like, I am enjoying myself, like, fuck off, basically. See that? And I saw clear as Motherfuckin' Day. Irene look at the camera and mouth the word help. And you know what? In regards to like possibly her being drugged, which to me makes sense. Yeah.

It makes sense that she was drugged. I think she liked it a lot. Looking at all that? I her being drugged, which to me makes sense. Yeah. It makes sense that she was drugged. I think she liked it when she was drugged. Like, looking at all that. I think someone drugged her. And for her to, like, because when you think about it, when you're saying to someone like, you're really drugged and they're like,

I'm not drugged, your reaction would be like, all right, just like be careful. Right. I mean, like, just like take, take care of yourself. Saying, just try to have fun is rapey. It's super rapey. That's being like, it's a girl that has a tour. But who knows if the girls is not.

It wasn't on it. And there's a lot of girls that help dudes do this shit. And so if somebody to say that, it's almost like being like loosen up. That's exactly what it's like. I didn't mean to just loosen up and let it have. And it sounded annoyed. Like it was like Jesus Christ can eat that.

Like have a good time. Like you know what I mean? Like that's what it sounded like. It's strange at least. Obviously this is all speculating on a thing that we were not attending. Right. But to me, that's what it looks like.

It's definitely. It's definitely. And again, I'm not saying I was there and I know for sure it's like me either. This is my, my, my,'m the drugging thing mm-hmm As far as I'm I don't see another explanation. I don't either if she didn't have migraines You're not taking my grand medication. Well, it's not it's not only Justin a migraine of medication It's an epilepsy medication like she didn't have epilepsy. Yeah, no so

Kanika's family thinks that there's more footage on the security camera and that's somehow what it was fucked with. That's always the way man. Always the way. Always only give portions. Because the last footage is Kanika walking around the corner to the freezer. And her mom says that when she was there, she saw cameras pointing toward the freezer. But that they told her there's no cameras that pointed the freezer.

It's what she was looking at was sprinklers or fire things. Okay. So I'm like, I mean, I definitely have confused them for cameras before. For sure. I think Teresa knew what the fuck she was doing while she was there and I think she saw cameras. Yeah.

But there was an expert that weighed in and said, they reviewed all the files that were sent like to law enforcement and they were ETC files, which are basically impossible to send if they're edited. Oh, okay. So some people think it was edited, some people are like, it would be near impossible to send an ETC file edited.

And I don't know anything about that. I don't either. And basically it's very black and white. Like either know about it or you don't. So if anybody knows about it, let us know. Nicely. They also say that, like I said before, how would she be able to push that door open if she was? That's definitely one of the things that's confusing me

because unless she may be like fell into it, like, but even that, it's like, that's a heavy door to just like stumble into. When you're drunk or like in a state, which she was in a drug state as well, it's like you're not looking to like exert force upon things, you're looking to just flop onto something. You're not, you're looking to flop into bed.

You're literally looking to just fall into something and have it open, you're looking to just flop onto something. You're not. You're looking to flop into bed. You're literally looking to just fall into something and have it open. You're not looking to like have to put forth any kind of force. And then the other thing is that there was an emergency latch on the inside of this freezer. So it's as simple as just pushing the latch. Now if you're drugged and drunk, you probably wouldn't be able to put that together. And it was also super dark in there Like when she was in there. Oh, that's really scary. Yeah, she was alive in there. That's really that It's a whole other layer of terrified

Well, so people question like why wouldn't she have pulled that latch, but that's what I say. I'm like if it's dark in there And you're drugged and drunk. You're not gonna see it You might not even see it and if you were sober and in a panic. And if you were put in there, who's to say that somebody's not on the other side of that door holds in a fucking shut? If there's no cameras pointing towards it. It locked toward the outside, or it locked from the outside.

Yeah. So on the opposite side of that, people say that the most likely sequence of events is that she wandered down there, she stumbled into the freezer, she didn't know what she was doing, and that she tripped over the door and that pulled off her shoe, like how I was saying earlier, that's basically like the argument for she, this was an accident, that's what the argument is. And she didn't have any like blunt force trauma, she didn't have any injuries.

Not that they said, and the autopsy that was released, but because it feels like if she, if she just like fell into there, she would have like a bump on the head or something. Exactly. And she only had on the autopsy, it only states about one bruise and it was on her leg. Okay. So yeah, so that's, that doesn't,

I mean, obviously stranger things have happened, but like to me, right, if you're falling into a freezer, you're gonna hit your head. You're gonna hit your head. Especially in the way that she was positioned. She's face down when they fall in her. And it doesn't feel like if you're that drunk

that you're falling over something, you might not be able to put your hands out. And if you did put your hands out, you'd probably hurt your hands. Right, exactly. So the autopsy is very like minimal, which is weird. It's because they did what they did in Kendrick Johnson. You go in, you make an assumption about the case,

and you can you work off of that assumption. You're not looking at it to take. When you're an investigator, or like an Emmy, or something like that, you should go into a scene, and you should let the scene tell you what's happening. Before you go into it, you don't go in there, say exactly. This looks like this. You go,

no, you tell me. Yeah, you tell me what happened. You're the whole vessel for like a dead person to speak, but do you think this supposed to be your novel? Not for nothing. Do you think these cops really cared about this black girl that died in Rosemont? No, definitely doesn't sound like it. There's a 3% black population. This is real frustrating. Fucked up. So that's basically all the facts. So there's a lot of back and forth like I said in the beginning about was this murder? Was it a setup or was it just a tragic accident? So at the end of the day, no matter what it was, it could have been avoided. Yeah, it was 100%. If law enforcement had acted faster, they would have got down to that freezer. The hotel would have

been searched. That's how they would have got down there. And they potentially could have saved her. Yeah. I'm not saying that she might she was still alive, but you don't know. And that's the whole reason of why you're there is to act fast. It's a fucking emergency. It's a look at it from all angles. And this just wasn't treated like an emergency at all. No, it definitely wasn't. I quickly want to go over two things to explain why these theories seem so wild because people are like it's ridiculous That they thought her organs were gonna be sold on the black market like it's ridiculous. That makes no sense Yeah, people hear that and they immediately go to like that's nuts. You're crazy and it's like no it happens

It does happen and it's really not as crazy as some people think that it's like a setup or anything like that It's not weird to take it that far because there have been instances where people of color were not completely taken care of and they were medically misled. Yep. So with that, I quickly just want to talk about the most famous case of this, which is the case of Henrietta Lacks. Ooh. So when you learn about helicells in school, you learn that these cells were basically donated by Henrietta.

Yeah, that's not the case. Hmm. So researchers noticed the cells from a cancerous tumor on Henrietta's cervix. She went in because of vaginal bleeding and basically they found out she had a tumor on her cervix and it was malignant. Okay. So the researcher that found this, they're looking at the cells and they're realizing, wow, these are like, they're like so rapidly increasing in numbers like this, I've never seen anything like this. And ultimately, it leads to helping get a polio vaccine. Yes.

So Henrietta didn't know that they were taking these cells and she never gave consent for them to take them. That's fucked up. They also brought her children in for blood work and like, they weren't told the real reason for why they were doing blood work. Yeah. It was down in the children and they basically were told that they just weren't told the real reason for the blood work. And then Henry had a dies in 1951 and the family never received any kind of compensation for all that she did. Well, that she contributed unknowingly to modern science. And they made it seem like she just donated it and she was like such a great woman for

doing that, but it was like, no, she didn't know. You didn't even give her a chance. Right. Like, she probably would have, but you didn't even give her a chance. And it seemed that she was basically just used for the experiment and- Just fucked up. Also, another interesting point is that for a while, she was basically just used for the experiment and fucked up. Also, another interesting point is that for a while, she was misidentified

and I'm just gonna leave you with why you think she was misidentified because they start calling her Helen Lane. Huh, that's real shady. Real shady. Real shady. And then really quickly just to wrap up here. Another instance of people of color being taken advantage of

is the, I need to look up this pronunciation, actually. I looked it up. It's the Tuskegee experiment. We did our research. It did my research on spot. So this experiment began in 1932. The experiment was, or it included 600 black men. 399 were infected with syphilis, and 201 were not.

I remember reading about this. This is actually the first I've ever heard about this. I read it and I was like, what the fuck? What now? And this is just a very brief overview, just like kind of as an argument. Yeah. But you should look further into this because it's so fucked. The study was for the purpose of understanding the natural history of untreated syphilis, but these men were not aware that they were not being treated. Wow. They were given placebo drugs and told that they were being

treated for bad blood. Oh, you pay. Which it's like, no, that's not the case at all. I'm like, woof. And the study was supposed to last six months, but it actually went on for 40 years. And it was a big difference. A big jump there and ended in 1972. So that's when the first news articles came out, like scrutinizing the experiment. And they're

basically like, yeah, you can't do that. Like these people don't realize that they're not getting treated. Ethically, this is questionable. This is gonna cost us a lot of money. And it did because it led to a class action lawsuit, which was held by Congress on behalf of the victims. And in 1974, a $10 million settlement was reached. Damn, but it's like, that doesn't even matter because at this point, countless black men had already lost their lives and put their families at risk.

Because syphilis is like insanely. And lives and put their families at risk. Yeah. Because syphilis is like insanely. Yeah, syphilis is no joke. Yeah. So I just think it's important to put those two things in there for like, if you're like, it's so crazy that this happens. Yeah, because you're like, no, it's not. Nothing is that crazy when it comes to like,

people of color's point of view, because it's like, this has happened to them over and over again. And nobody takes things seriously. Exactly, that's the thing. That's what everybody's screaming from the rooftops right now. It's like, no, this is not insane to think that it's happening to black people right now. No.

So that is the case of Gnika Jenkins. And I think that you should have a nice discussion about what you think. Yes. I think that I don't think I missed anything, but if I did, hit me up, tell me. Nicely. I'd love to hear more about this if you have anything that I didn't mention. This case is wild. And it's closed. It's a closed case. That's even worse. Yeah. Because I'm going to be honest, after hearing everything laid out, the accident was fishy. Something doesn't

sit well with me. No, I definitely think that there's more to the story. I can see, you know, see looking at it quickly and thinking maybe it was a tragic accident, but it's something about that migraine and epilepsy drug. And the party. And the party. The videos, some weird shit. The fact that Irene's videos won't give another interview. The fact that she won't give another interview

and the fact that she's saying help or like, mouthing helps. I swear, I saw it. I swear. Something's weird. It's something strange. That's all I'm saying. There's something strange.

I think it's worth another one. Oh, personally. I meant to mention, Teresa did file a wrongful death suit and it's still in litigation. Good. So. Hopefully that'll come out the right way because if anything at the very least it deserves a second look. Of course it does.

Let's fucking reopen this case. Why not? Why not? What's the if you believe wholeheartedly that it was an accident? Cool. Prove it to me again then. Yeah just show me. Show me. Make me believe. Make me believe. Make me believe. That's a tragic accident. Because I'm not convinced. Not solved. I'm not convinced. But again we weren't there. We believe you because I'm not convinced. Not sold. I'm not convinced. But again, we weren't there. We're not saying that we know better than anyone else.

No. It's just, this is how I feel. It's strange to me. And please, we really do encourage, you know, respectful debating about this. No, we do. Just keep it nice. Don't call anybody stupid. Be mean to each other. Let's just listen. Let's stop talking. I'm a little bit. Even though we just stalked you for like 55 minutes.

Yeah, let's not stop talking. But let's quiet down a little. Let's just take a moment. Yeah. Just listen to what people of color have to say. Well, I'm definitely going to post some of the images of the crime scene. So I'll put a little warning before it.

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