Morbid - Episode 15: Richard “Stanky Chops” Ramirez AKA The Nightstalker Part 2

Episode Date: August 24, 2018

Richard continues on a path of unimaginable mayhem but don't worry, his capture will have you applauding in the end. Trigger warning: There is a lot of mentions of sexual assault and one mention of sexual assault against a child. I mention this when it is about to be discussed during the episode too, so don't worry...you can skip that part if needed. Sources: https://people.com/crime/richard-ramirez-night-stalker-killer-murder-made-me-famous/ https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-xpm-2013-jun-07-la-me-ln-east-la-night-stalker-20130607-story.html See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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for 30 days. That's W-O-N-D-E-R-Y-P-O-D. Audible.com slash wonderie pod or text Wonder Repod to 500-500 to try Audible for free for 30 days. Hey weirdos, I'm Elena. I'm Ash and this is morbid. Back in the pod lab. Oh yeah! So we're not as you can probably hear, there's no crickets.

There's just a creaky rocking chair. Only a handful of you didn't like the crickets, but we're catering to you. We're catering to you, yeah. Because we care about everyone's opinions. Exactly, and it's less editing for me later. Oh, that works. I hope you can just hear the burp that I did inside of my mouth. I didn't hear it, so I don't, but who knows, because this microphone is intense. In fact, I'm sorry if my rocking chair

creaks. Well, you can edit it out, mate. I'll edit out the creaking of my old lady chair. So before we say anything else, I was waiting to tell you something. Do you know how last week you asked me, well, maybe not last week, but like, I asked sometime recently you asked me, um, if I went on a murderous killing spree, what, what song would I do with it? Yes. Because that was like a thing on like Facebook or something. Yeah. I decided to change my answer to Tainted Love.

Ooh. Because I heard it on the way here. That's an endless one. And he's like, especially when it's like Oh my god, yeah, that would be a great one. So that is for sure my answer. I like that. Thank you. Mine is still Halloween Spooks. If anybody doesn't know that, just go ahead and look it up.

Yeah, just go look it up. You should insert a clip of it. I'll probably post, maybe I'll post a clip onto the Instagram. Yeah, that's allowed. Yeah, that's allowed. I can post whatever I want on Instagram. The rules. The rules are doing whatever you want.

The rules. So, yeah, hope you guys seem to dig part one. Mm-hmm. And that's why we're giving you part two before the week is over. There you go. Because we are recording obviously right now. And then again, on Sunday. And then tonight, I'm going into the mor morgue and I'm gonna edit this podcast.

So it's gonna be authentic. Gonna go to bed. Yeah. So hopefully it'll be out on Friday, which won't matter to you because it'll already be. I'd consider even Saturday the week. If you, if you, I'll try to get it out tomorrow. You're gonna try.

I'm gonna try my hardest. If I don't, don't hate me. Elena really tries so hard for you guys. I do, I try a lot. I try really hard when we're recording to be funny and present, and other than that, I just succeed. You know, I do what I can.

You do it, man. If you need help call me. But you just really take a lot. Thank you. Thank you. And I just want them to know that. Thank you. Yeah. Well, we could, you know what, it would be shit all without you. Yeah, be like wicked boy. It really would. If it was just me talking to myself. Yeah, fuck that. So, and if it was, and if it was anybody else, it would be sure. Oh, yeah, fuck everyone else.

Yeah, no one else. I think everybody can agree with that. If anything happens to me, this podcast is just, yeah, this is gonna have to be over. Yeah. Because I don't think I could air in Manky this. I'm not air in Manky. No. I can't make it good by myself. Or I'm not Alison Horax from the Stranger

and Usual Podcast, which you should go listen to too. Right now. Cause she's great, but I don't have that charisma. You know what I do? I get hooked on one podcast, and I just like don't allow myself to like listen to other ones because it feels like cheating. See I listen to a lot of podcasts. I like listen to like one or two. And I like rotate. Like I get through them all and then I start over because I always have a new episode to go to

because I have to go through all of them first. Yeah. Like hit all the new episodes and then I can just circle back around and I got all new episodes waiting for me. Mmm, smart. It's a good way to do it. Do you know what it felt like today? What did it feel like? Fall. I felt like fall. And I said it so many times at work and all my friends at work at the location I was at today, like really love summer.

Ugh. And I was just like, who are these people? I was like, guys, it's fall, it's fall. And then I fucking ordered. It was. So tell me how fucking awesome this sounds. A dirty try. Ooh, I've heard of that. It's fall and then I fucking ordered. So tell me how fucking awesome this sounds. A dirty try. Ooh, I've heard of that.

So it's just like a try, like a nice try, with a shot of espresso. Ooh, and I got one tonight. I gotta try that, because I've heard it. I've just never ordered it. Do you wanna know what happened though? So it was really, really good. But then I was putting on my sweater,

because I brought a sweater to work today. And I just really like, I don't know, like I just screwed myself over because I whipped my sweater on and me whipping it on. Knocked my dirty try off the counter. That's a badass day. Yeah. I probably just like had my serving size in the world.

Just like, stop. In the universe was like, take it out. The universe was like, you were a little real gross. I'm gonna fix this. You're trash. Where's your slurpee bitch? Where's your trash cereal? I'm never getting one of those again. I got so sick. Did you? I'm just gonna leave it at that. I mean I feel like you would.

For two days. Like if you were like I felt great after that. I'd be like you're super you. I was sick for two days. I believe it. Yeah. I mean it was called the Captain Crunch slushy. Yeah. And I got it at 7-11 at like 9-ish o'clock at night, so I really just did that to myself. Here try this some trash. That was my favorite thing to try. Here try this some trash. So there's been a lot of true crime exciting things. There's been a lot this week.

Why am I saying exciting? There's been a lot of true crime. The awful thing is that I've got this. I mean, in our world it's exciting. It's exciting because it's things, but they're awful things. Yeah, horrible. Well, exciting not for the... If you want to talk about the first one that he got caught,

I was going to say that's one good thing is in the Molly Tibbet's case, which I was following that for like the whole month. Yeah, because John was the one who brought it up to me and he was like, have you heard of, like when she was first to me and he was like, have you heard of like when she was first missing? And he was like, what the hell is going on here? And a free Timmo, because they brought up that she was jogging alone. Yeah.

And that was the last time she was seeing you jogging. Do you jog alone? I don't, but I used to. Really? Yeah, I used to jog around the neighborhood by myself. Now I don't. I don't. I don't.

I don't. I don't. I don't need to do that. Yeah, don't you? And then, no, I don't. I've done it in forever. You know, you did not like the afternoon. Yeah, I didn't do that. Yeah. And then no, I don't. I don't, I don't exercise. So I don't have those words. But that's in the, I'm so glad that he was found. Oh, yeah. And I'm so glad that he confessed the only thing that really, I mean, there's a lot of the pisses me off. But the biggest thing that pisses me off is that he was saying that he was driving by her, he saw her jogging. So he looped around a few times to stalk her while she was, so like a fucking creep. Like go away.

So strange. And then he got out of his car and jogged next to her. Like, go behind her. And he said, eventually she said to him, get away from me or I'm calling the police. And he continued, so then she started running like away. That makes the heart. And he said he chased her down.

Like you're a fucking piece of shit. But then he said the next thing here, remembers is placing her in the corn field where she was found. He said he blacked out. No, you didn't. You remember it. And you fucking didn't. I'll get it.

That you don't have to remember it. Oh, it's such an easy way for them to take complete responsibility away from themselves. I blacked out. You know what, the fuck? I fucking say that, but I hope that they think of it every single night that they're going to jail. Oh yeah, I hope he's, and he, you know what? He's gonna have a fun time in jail, so.

Oh yeah. Like, worst. Worst. And it's like, that was just, I mean, most crimes are senseless, but that was so fucking senseless. Just jogging down the street. And you know what her crime was? Just being a woman. Yeah, not even being pretty. Well, she was beautiful. Yeah, just being a woman, yeah, jogging down the road. Like that's, that's the issue. Well, it's like what we were saying last week with Richard Romero is how he like

learned if you want something you take it. Exactly. Men today. Yeah. So many of them. But like it is a big problem. Not all men obviously. But like it's a big problem.

And I'm sure like a lot of men even agree with this that you know this is a big problem that they're being taught to kind of just take what they want. And that's, and one thing I wanna say to people is like take, to like women, especially in Ben. Like take self-defense classes. Like I wanna take one. I do too.

Because one thing, I used to do karate when I was younger. See, and one thing that is good to know is that if somebody ever attacks you from behind, bend yourself forward and slam the back of your head against their face as hard as you can because the back of your head is very thick. What gets more? And it can take a really good hit and it can fuck their face up and it will at least fuck

them up enough that they might like go of you and get disoriented and you can get the fuck out of there. So if somebody grabs you from behind, bend forward and then slam your head back as hard as you can into their face. I love that. Just do that. Well, you never have to use it. Well, if it's a dude, kick your foot back too. Yep, kick your foot back as hard as you can into their face. I love that. Just do that. Hopefully you never have to use it, but if it's a dude,

kick your foot back to it. Yup, kick your foot back to it. And try and bend your butt into them, because it's a very odd position, to bend yourself forward and kind of push yourself forward, way from them. So just hopefully you never have to do it, but hit them in the face with the back of your head.

Do you know what your head can do? I'm far too happy to pick up. That's my strategy. You're welcome. Can't catch me. But you know what? Because I'm not running. Think about the story of that was in the murderino group a couple, what was it like

a month ago? A lady that was nine months pregnant. I don't know. And the sky wild. Still a tactor. Like, you're not safe anywhere. Honestly, true crime will make you become a corporal crew. As I'm sure everybody is noticed.

Hi, I'm a true crime today. I'm a true crime today. I'm a photocurstant that we're making everyone as paranoid as we are. That was funny. I loved the one that I never think I'm in. I can't remember the guy's name. Oh my god, his name is Robert.

Yes, Robert. I don't have his username right name. Oh my god, his name is Robert. Yes, Robert. I don't have his username right now, but it's Robert Zero. I laughed so hard at that. I was like, I had tears in my eyes. I showed my husband that because I was like, this is so funny. It was. And I love the shade at the end. He tagged us.

I don't know if anybody saw it, but he tagged us in his story after he listened to the Richard Ramirez episode. He just tagged us in a video of him latching his window and then violently playing it. Like all very quickly, like fuck that. And it was just all like no words, just that. It was so funny. And it's exactly how I feel about this situation. And then today the girl that tagged us when she was like, Oh yeah.

Like couch and she was like, well shit. So I'm sorry that we're making your guess. Alright guys, but like think about it. We're just trying to help you out. Yeah. Cause morbid tips, you know. So I'm sorry that we're making your guess. Our guys, but like think about it. We're just trying to help you out. Yeah, because, you know, fresh air is for dead people. Sleeping on the coaches for dead people. Yeah.

I'm just trying to give you a, what are your daily activities that I'm dead people? Yeah, it's all for dead people. Honestly, sleeping's for dead people. You're still, you're still, you're still getting vulnerable. But at least lock you to always someone knows

if you can, you know, give it a shot. Hell yeah. But the other bummer true crime story that we taught, we touched on briefly last, well, last episode. Yeah, we did. It's like that asshole, I don't even remember his name. And I don't, I don't care to look it up because fuck that guy. But I wish that more things focused on the victim's name. Yeah, exactly.

It's not another big problem in society. And the victim's name is Shenan and Bella and Celeste. Good. And Little Baby Niko. Oh, my God. And this. So this was the one we talked about last episode. I keep saying last week, like it happened a long time ago.

And it was the guy who killed his entire family. And then the four he was caught and admitted to doing this. He was on the news begging for their return. But it was such, you knew from the second he was on there that it was bullshit, because he couldn't even, it almost looked like he was smiling, which is an informative discussion. And it's like normally I don't judge people's reactions, because I'm like everyone, I don't know how I'd react.

Sometimes I laugh in very inappropriate situations like you know that. You sure do. Like I have, when I get nervous I laugh. So I can't totally judge that. But now knowing what he did, I'm like, you piece of shit. He was definitely. But what makes it worse is his confession now is that first of all they found out he was having an affair with this coworker, of course with his pregnant wife like seriously so he's claiming that the

night that they went missing and were murdered that he came home and told his wife that he wanted to separate because he said you know we told his pregnant wife you want to say yeah I don't think she was super pregnant but she was pregnant. And he's claiming he told her that he wanted a separation and that she flipped out. And then he looked on the baby monitor after a while and she was strangling the children to death.

So now let me just, I'm gonna put this out here. So you murdered your pregnant wife and your two children and now when she is not here to defend herself, you're claiming she did the worst thing that a mother could ever do. You absolute fucking monster. Fuck, it may not be fair. It may not be fair. Because you know how I know that's not what happened and how he definitely killed those kids,

because you know where they found their bodies. No. And an oil tank that was filled with crude oil. He dumped his four and two-year-old into a fucking tank filled with shit oil. Oh my God. If you give... If you are a parent on any level or love anybody, you know that that is never, ever.

Something you could ever do with your children's bodies. I'm not even a parent and I don't understand that. Exactly. Someone could have a gun to my temple and tell me to do that. I would never... No. You would die before you did that. Yeah, absolutely.

I would never do that. You do not disgrace your children's bodies. If you really gave a shit about them, like he's a fucking sociopath. He killed his family because he wanted to be with this new chick, this side chick. That's what this was all about. He was having an affair. He had a family. It was too much He wanted a new life just run away exactly just get the fuck out of their lives They'd be better off without you anyways, but instead you just it infuriated me though that he's good for and to claim that this poor woman Did the unthinkable that her children when she's not here to defend herself. Right. And he claims that he strangled her because she strangled the kids. So he's the hero.

And it's like, I hope you get such prison justice because when they find out what you did to little tiny see you later goodbye. Oh my god. You're going to be someone's favorite snack in prison and I can't wait. I want to hear about it. That was a great. Like I love that you're right. That was awesome. I just, uh, so yeah. That's it. That was a fun depressing. And it's only gonna get worse. So, we just have to talk about the Patreon.

Oh yes. This is a happy thing. So let's bring it all up again. Just slam it all back down. Yeah That's really yeah, lift their souls. We have been absolutely Overfucking wellmed by the support you guys have given us on patreon. I can't believe it's this act of already I didn't I honestly didn't expect any I was like, you know, I'm just gonna put this up in a shot. I Can't even we cannot be getting you title. Thank you guys so much. Yeah, how much we appreciate, because now it's really making us want to pump out more material and we're trying to improve our audio as we go here.

Well, hopefully you're hearing a little bit each time. We're trying to get better, better, personally. I think that we sound so much better. Oh, I can't even, I'm not even going to listen to the first few of this. No, I wish they would disappear, but like you guys can keep some. Yeah, definitely keep them. I mean, they were great. Content was good.

Content was quality. I mean, you know. So we're really, we're gonna step it up for you because you've really stepped it up for us. Yeah. We really, really, really appreciate it and we want to show you guys out. Okay, so we have, I think there's four tiers of the picture. There is, right? But only three are active right now.

Okay, so the window-latching, Kevin, evil onion, and jagged little bitches. So the ones that are active. So I'll start with window-latching, Kevin. Woo-hoo! Shout out to Ashley Oaksley, or Oxley, not positive. Yeah, Ashley. I like how you spell your name. Um, Jennifer Madden. Jennifer Madden, your last name is Richard Madden's last name and he's super hot

So I thought you're super hot you probably Joanna D. Yeah Joanna D. Love it Kelly bath What I was ready to tell Kelly baths name today. I just said a lot. That's a really cool name It's true actually I actually like actually loved your name. It's like cool. She had a moment about your name. Just into Edmonds is also part of the window-latching cover. Hell yes, just into.

And that is... Thank you window-latching, Kevin. All five of you guys are fucking awesome. You guys keep closing down corners. Let's call the corners together, some shit. Fuck yeah. You guys are a cover. Now for the band Evil Onions.

Oh yeah, Evil Onions. We have four members of this band, so it actually could be a band. So really it's like a band. And we have one of your favorite people. Lily Turner. My Lily Turner. And I don't know if she likes Lily, so I'll say Lil.

I always call her Lil. But I love my Lil. And Lil, you're the best for supporting us. This next name is like, hella fancy, and I just wanna tell you that girl. Grace Delauri. Oh, Grace Delauri. Like Delauri is such a fancy ass name.

Ooh, I feel like she had a, what's that thing that they do on Gilmore Girls that I wanted to do? Oh, a coming out party, like a, what's it called though? Like, debut-ton-pop. debut-ton, she says like a debut-ton. You know what, if she didn't have one, she should.

Cause she has one now for it. Have one now. There's also Lauren Sutherland. Thank you Lauren. My little sister's name is Lauren. There you go. But she doesn't listen to this podcast though. But this Lauren does.

Shout out to you if you do. And then our last member is John B. Alecky. Yeah, John. John was actually the first one. Yes. So special props to John for Dr. Raiyanar. The first to write down on that so thank you John That's not a word and also I love it though. Okay. I think it's good

Just create it I'm literal threat. Also my husband's name is John so rock on rock on Okay, and then the last group that is active right now is the jagged little bitches Yes, and you guys I feel like that just reminds me of Pink because of a... Yeah. Yeah, just like a bit... I don't know, that's not... Or Jagged Little Pill. Yeah, exactly.

But it's more so. Yes, that too. Oh, I just sniffed really, really intensely. Sorry, I don't edit it out. Okay. So there's three members of the Jagged Little Bitches, so they're like... A little trio of Jagged Little Bitches. Yes, exactly. You girls Samantha trot?

Samantha who I feel like she is like my friend by Association you should be friends with Sam because she's amazing. I think she's really just like Lil She's a mate Lil and Sam. Yeah, I think Lil and Sam need to meet each other. I've never met Sam But I met a little like once at Target. He did. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, Target. They're both amazing people. I bet they are. I love them. Thank you Sam. Yes, thank you. Um, I really hope I don't say her name wrong. Um, Brandi Bell Chick, Bell Sick.

B-L-C-I-K. Bell Sick, I think. Bell Sick. She's active on her Instagram, so I recognize her name. Thank you. So much Brandi. You're the tits. You're the tits Brandi. And then this next one is like my middle name so I thought she's really cool. Yeah what was that? We're inside and that's just scared me. I think it was

John closing the door downstairs when John closes the door he does it with the authority of like a thousand hunts. Oh okay. Yeah that was intense. It felt like he was closing the door up here. Yeah that's what it feels like anywhere in the house. Sorry Nicole. We just got really after Nicole's second. Yeah Nicole's second. So thank you guys are fucking awesome guys Seriously like where it in all I can't even Sorry if you're hearing me put this paper down by so guys seriously, seriously, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. I can't even appreciate how much I appreciate. I can't even appreciate it.

That's not what I meant to say. I can't even understand or comprehend. It's plain. Yes. How much I appreciate you. Yeah. We have it, we're so, we are humbled to say the least. Like, people want to listen to us.

This is amazing. Oh yeah, and that's another thing. We do want to start, because we asked you guys from merch ideas, like quotes, and you guys gave us fucking amazing things. Like I love that people have grabbed on to so many quotes. They have some things that I didn't even realize. That when I came out, I was like, oh yeah.

I do say that. I'd like bananas. Say that a lot. So yeah, we're going to try to get some merch together for that, try to get some t-shirts, try to get some buttons, some stickers that we can send to our Patreon's too. And we, I believe the first of the month is when you will be build for your Patreon donation and that's when we will start gathering up all the fun stuff to send you guys and get

out our bonus episodes for you guys because we're gonna get those rolling so we'll be on lookout for that. Woo! And I think that's all the business we have to attend to since we're like 20 minutes into the stuff thing already. Oh shit, we're gonna turn into like the people that talk forever. I know. Okay, ready? So part two of Richard Romero's.

Da da da da da da. So I mean things are gonna get pretty rough. It was already really rough, but there's a couple and a rough note. Yeah, we ended on Ma-Bel and her rest in peace. Her friend Florence Lang, which by the way, what I've noticed about this case is there is a lot

of conflicting information about names. For some reason, victims' names get twisted around or name totally different things. Cause there's so many of them, which is not. I just kind of picked the ones that I could find the most. And if I couldn't find something that I was confident enough to say, I don't say it. So I'm not going to give you wrong information here. One of the other things I'll just add in here is somebody emailed us or DMed us about

the pentagram thing. Oh, yeah, you told me about that. Because he uses pentagrams a lot. And they were kind enough to actually explain the difference between a pentagram and a pentagram. And so it made me want to do further research because, girl, I love to research. So give me anything and I'm going to research it for like three hours. And so I went into the whole history of the pentagram and pentacle because I was like, oh, we said pentagram this whole time and everything I've read about him says pentagram.

I've never read pentacle. I don't think we are technically wrong. Okay. Just made it all too early. And I'm not trying to be like, we're not wrong, you know, but I think basically it is what you attribute the meaning to it. Like because back in like the four, the states back to like the 14th, 15th centuries when like a cult practices started taking over, they were rooted in Judeo-Christian symbolism

and mysticism, so they started taking Christian symbols and turning them. Okay. And so the pentacle and pentagram are kind of interchangeable in that sense where it's like the meaning you attribute to it. Okay. And so the pentacle and pentagram are kind of interchangeable in that sense where it's like the meaning you attribute to it. Okay. And like I think it's like it doesn't really matter if there's a circle around it or not. It's kind of just the meaning really is the meaning behind it. It's yeah, it's kind of like you can put the pentacle without the circle or the pentagram without the circle, whatever the hell it is. And if you're attaching a terrible meaning to it, then it's it is what it is. And if you're attaching a terrible meaning to it,

then it is what it is. So I think we're gonna continue calling it a pentagram just because from what my research, that's what I've found to be okay. But, you know, we're not trying to offend anybody, so. I did no research. I was just doing what you were telling me. So, and I think also like Hollywood has something

to do with this too. They've called it a pentagram, so it's become a pentagram kind of thing. So I think, in Richard Ramirez's eyes is a pentagram, so I'm just saying pentagram, because that's what he was using. Yeah. But we appreciate it. Which is star like, what's a pentagram? Yeah, like a witch's star that's ridiculous.

And whoever, like, I'm sorry, I can't remember your name, who DMed us, I'm like tired. But thank you for bringing that to my attention, because it was actually interesting to research. So I appreciate it. So we're gonna start off after the mobbell and Florence laying terrible, terrible murders. Go back to part one if you want to hear about that. Now, during this whole murder spree, Richard was living in and out of the Cecil Motel,

which is what you mentioned. And Ash was the one who brought it up that we need to do a whole episode on that. Because we could do multiple episodes on that. For sure. We should do an entire episode just dedicated to the things that have happened in that hotel. There's so many interesting things. Yeah. And he, during these things, he was basically,

he would go back to that place, like when he could scrounge the money together by stealing shit from people's houses, because every time he murdered someone, he stole shit from their house, like he was a fucking thief. He was richy the klepto. And he would come back to the Cecil Motel,

and he would dump his bloody clothing in the dumpster in the pecs, in the back of the hotel. Which was true, no, it was paying attention. And literally the place was such fucking unmitigated chaos and he would dump his bloody clothing in the dumpster in the pecs in the back of the hotel. Which was true, and literally the place was such fucking unmitigated chaos that like no one noticed. And he would like walk back to his room like half naked. I want to know who was working there. What? Because they were not paying attention.

Well, and I know other serial killers like worked out of that place because of the association with Richard Ramirez too. So it got like, yeah, so that's fucked up. Is that what hotel was based off of? Yeah, it was. It was like loosely based off of that whole thing. So we're up to, no, the more I looked between like the names and the dates, the dates of some of these get fucked up too. It's like different timelines, different things. So we not say the date. I'm saying the dates that I have, I have cross-referenced with each other and feel confident about but some dates I'm just leaving out not saying the dates because I'm not gonna because you don't want to be around. I don't want to sprint a ton of wrong information So we're up to May 30th 1985 now And his next victim was 41 year old Carol Kyle

He broke in he and he basically just raped and satanized her. He left her alive. Carol. Did she live? She did. She was left alive, and she described him as quote, good looking, which, weirdly, if he wasn't a garbage person,

and he had taken care of himself, he has beautiful cheekbones. I would actually show you a picture of a kid that I graduated high school, and then he looks like a normal garbage person. He would be a decent like a, like, he could have modeled. Well, he's not the most structured of like, he's like a normal look and do. Yeah, for this very, so I mean, a lot of them described him as like somewhat handsome. And as you'll see later, he had a lot of groupies.

So we'll get to that later though. I like guys, he didn't brush his teeth. Well that's it. Well she was the one who said that he smelled like wet leather. She described it as wet leather. That just like reminds me of a wet dog. That's what I think of. I think of the wet dog smell immediately. Oh god.

And it's because of his fucking halitosis that was caused by him. Oh, halitot, like that, oh, bye. So that was, so he's, he's racking up like descriptions now because he's leaving some people alive, which no rhyme or reason. He's just some people who decide which no rhyme or reason. He's just some people he decides. And he will say later, it made him feel more powerful to decide whether or not somebody, like he could walk out of there and leave you alive. And he was like, God, because he just saved you.

Like he was like, your God, excuse me. Yeah. So, um, this is one that the data isn't very clear, but it's 66 year old Harold Wu and 62 year old Jean Wu husband and wife. He went after so many like elderly people and like makes me crazy. So he broke in and shot Harold in the head immediately as he slept next to Jean. That was his thing. That was one thing he did do all the time.

Was he would shoot the husband in the head. So Jean was bound and she was violently punched and raped. He left her alive. And he later said that this was one of those times that he left the person alive because he could, because he can do whatever he wants. He can choose to leave you alive. Fucked.

So this is another one that the date is unclear, but the next one was 41-year-old Ruth Wilson. He broke into her home in the middle of the night. This one's a little scary, but there's a child in this one that the child was left unharmed, so just know that going in. He found her 12-year-old son, and he used him as bait for her to show him

where all the valuables were in the house. So he held the 12 year old. So when I say unharmed, I mean physically unharmed, emotionally and mentally, probably not. But he took him around the house and was like, show me where all your fucking valuables are. Or I'm gonna kill him. So she showed him everything. She brought him to a very valuable necklace. I believe she was a

widow too. And I think the necklace was sentimental. He ended up after she got them all the valuables. He handcuffed the sun and locked him in a closet. And then he satanized and raped roofs. Like she was fucking to you all herself. So can you just just leave? And I think that was one of the things she was like, I will give you everything. Like, just leave. He then slashed her once and then bound her and her son not together.

Slashed her? He'll just slashed her with a knife. Geez. And then bound her to her son and then left the both alive. Like, what? The next one was June 2nd, 1985. was 29 year old Edward Wildgins. He was shot and killed by Ramirez and his girlfriend was violently raped but left alive. Oh my god. So I don't know what his thing is.

That's so horrible that he's just like leaving all these women alive without the people that left there. Like horrible emotional damage. And you killed their like, their emotional damage. And you killed their, Yeah, like, they're significant other. Like that's horrible. They're human exactly. And that's, and I feel like that's probably part of it. I got a sound flood,

Yes, and I was like, Well, come on. No. Woo, I almost unplugged the computer, guys. So, Anyway, again, he's, he's starting to, he's leaving too many witnesses. He's leaving too many people that can describe

because he was wearing masks. He was just, he's not getting too comfortable. He was unstoppable, yeah. He thought he was gone. Exactly. Now, he was always using stolen cars for this whole thing because that way they can't track them and it's easy and he just was really good at stealing cars.

So he just did it. You want the same fucking sneakers? Exactly. Uh, there was one night where he tried to break into a home, but he saw a man awake and conveniently cleaning a gun. No way. So he bailed. He was like, you know what?

So he tried to straight up kidnap a little girl and Eagle Rock. Jesus. But she started screaming and fighting him and someone called the police. Good for her. Yeah, and so he bailed again. So he gets back into his stolen car and he runs a fucking red light in the stolen car.

Because he's so frustrated at this point. Yeah, he's just like, he's everywhere. So the cop pulls him over. A frenzy. A frenzy, exactly. He's in a foot, a tenzy. He's in a foot, a tenzy. You know that. That's. A frenzy. A frenzy, exactly. He's in a foot, a tenzy. He's in a foot, a tenzy. You know that.

That's like a frenzy. That's a serial killer frenzy is a full, a tenzy. Yeah. That's a clinical term. It is. I'm here to say. So sash. Well, so a cop pulled him over.

And the cop had heard the description of the man who had tried to kidnap that little girl like moments earlier. He was like, oh, hey, you look just like that fucking guy. And the description of the man who had tried to kidnap that little girl like moments earlier. He was like, oh hey, you look just like that fucking guy. And the description matched Richard obviously because it was fucking him. Let me guess. The cop was like, love. I think so. No. The cop actually asked him jokingly, hey, you're not the guy killing people in their homes, are you? You're kidding.

L-A-P-D. Get? Yo shit. Too bad. L-A-T-R. How are they? Do you know what? There's so many situations that I do just like at this very moment. If I could time travel I would go back in time to the L.A. PD and I would show them all of the things like I would gather all the articles and all the dumb shit that they did. And be like, look how much you're gonna botch. You can stop this.

You can just like, you can stop being so dumb. Yeah, thank you. I'm going back to the present, even though it sucks a little bit more. I think that's a really good idea, and I'd like that to happen. All right, because there's just too many cases like this, where it's like, come on, LAPD.

I'm gonna look at the time travel after this. You really should. I'll research it. Just for this. Basicest amount of time travel research. Basicest amount, but just, it You really should. I'll research it. Just for this. Basicest amount of time travel research. Basicest amount, but just, it needs to happen. I'll give it a look. Because come on, L.A.P.D.

Jesus. Oh, I just cannot. And what do need be like, hold on. Well, and he responded no way, man. When you guys gonna catch that motherfucker. Of course he did, because duh. So the cop just walks back to his car to read to you know like do a shit and He then he goes to like call in the red light stop and the stolen car that he found out that he's like Oh, this is stolen car when he runs the plates and

Richard just gets out of the car Draws a pentagram on the hood of the car and runs away Like did the guy fall asleep? Oh? Was it noticing because LAPD. Like then he also just drew a pentagram. He's like, let me make sure, okay. And it sounds like, like, just, I don't even know, like over the top he's like, ha ha!

He just like draws a pentagram and is like, so very like, and then just like burps off. Exactly, that's what I think of. It's like, you okay, catch me? Was it a really twirling as mustache? Was it a really big pentagram or like just a... I don't know. I think it was like a fairly big one. Either way.

Wow. I can drop pentagram on a head of a car while it cops. Yeah, it takes time. I'm just gonna end. I'm just gonna end. We were with chocolate. Which is like maybe fucked up. Yeah, that's sorry. They were identical.

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Mary Louise Cannon, he broke into her home at night. He beat her unconscious with a lamp from her bedside table, and then stabbed her with a ten inch butter knife. What? Yep. Like, he stabbed her with a butter knife. With a butter knife. What? Yep. Like he stabbed her with a butter knife. Yeah. And let me tell you, it's hard to stab someone anyways. Like, no, I'm not saying I've stabbed people like out there. We go. But like during an autopsy even when I first started training, they had to tell me like, you got to

put some force behind it because it's harder than you think. With a butter knife? Like we use sharpened blades. I can't imagine a butter knife. Damn. Like a bloom my mind. And it's like this lady survived two belts of cancer and it's a Richard fucking remira that takes her out.

Like that means we have a fucking cancer. So how about he really is? Well, and cancer got him later, so. July 5th, 1985. This one's scary. 16-year-old Whitney Bennett, she lives, but he broke into her room. knew that her parents were sleeping in the room next to her, hits the sleeping 16-year-old in the head with a tire iron. Oh my god! Rape's her and then leaves. She was left needing 478 stitches to close up the wound that he left on her skull. I'm sorry so legitimately almost 500 stitches. Literally. And he raped her a 16 year old

with her parents in the next room. Did she have like brain damage? I don't know. Oh my god. I mean and think about it. He hit her with a tire iron opened her head up enough that she needed 500 stitches And while that was going on, he's raping her. Oh God. You I Like you're an evil evil evil beyond but so this was that was July 5th July 6th So he's really on a tear damn 60-year-old Joyce Nelson. She was asleep on the couch. When he broke in and violently beat her, she was stomped to death. What?

Literally, he stomped her to death, which is the most violent aggressive thing I remember. I can't even know that was a thing. The amount of rage and aggression. It is wrong with him. Well, this is the thing. It's like he changes it up all the time and rage and aggression. It is wrong with him. Well, this is the thing. It's like he changes it up all the time and he gets worse.

Like he comes out with different awful shit to do. I mean, he covers the spectrum. That's insane. There's very little that he does that. I mean, there's very little that he doesn't do. I don't think there's anything he doesn't do. I can't really think of anything. I mean, every serial killer is awful, but most of them stick to one awful thing or two awful things. He literally hits everything.

Geez. He's got torture rape, saw to me. I mean, beating to death, stomping to death, stabbing to death, shooting to death. He literally has everything. He has nothing that he hasn't done. to death. He literally has everything. He has nothing that he hasn't done. That's so fucked up. So he left that Avia footprint on her face. Wow. They were able to see the like literal footprint of that shoe on her face, which is they that's another connection. That's horrible. Now the same night as he stomped Joyce Nelson to death, same night as he stomped Joyce Nelson to death. 63-year-old grandmother and nurse Linda Fortuna was attacked in her home around 3.30 a.m. He held a gun to her head and woke her out of a dead sleep. So she was woken out of a dead sleep with a gun to her temple and he held a hand over her mouth and said, make a sound and I'll kill you. So that's what she woke up to, 63-year-old grandmother.

Ordered her out of bed and brought her into the bathroom. Ransacked her house, then he brought her back into her bedroom, put a pillow over her face and a glove in her mouth. Tried to rape her, couldn't get it up. Tried to satamize her, couldn't get it up because he's a flaccid penis, little shitbag. In each time she said he was getting more and more angry that he wasn't able to perform, because again, he intergrades sex and violence and if that's not happening,

something is going to set off in him. Like that's going to enrage him more than anything. And so she said, because she survived. Oh my God. She said she was getting more and more scared. First of all, she thought he was gonna suffocate her, because he put the pills in her face. It happened for so long, I'm sure. And she was like, this is how it ends, but he didn't.

And then she goes, she said every time he couldn't do it, he was getting more and more angry, and she was like, he's going to kill me, just at a rage. I'll leave you, yeah. But he didn't. He cursed cursed her like called her a bitch all this good stuff and then left And left her alive Wow, yeah again

What makes so sense? So July 20th 32 year old now this one is the doozy I would like to put a pretty big trigger warning on this one is the doozy. I would like to put a pretty big trigger warning on this one. There is a child in this one. The child lives, but he does something awful to this child.

So I just want to warn you. If you want to skip like a few seconds ahead, if you don't want to hear this, I understand. I do. Where should I go? Well, you have to. I'll sign up for this. You sign up for this, you have to to hear this, I understand. I do. Where should I go? Well, you have to. You sign up for this.

You have to say, so strapping 32 year old. Now, I'm sorry if I butcher this name. It's a really hard name. Chitat Asawahim. I'm sorry if I butcher that name. He is shot immediately with a 25 caliber handgun. And his 29 year old wife was beaten and forced to perform Felicia on Ramirez.

Which is so disgusting. Then he rapes her. He then finds their eight year old son. And he rapes him with a bottle of baby oil. So he satanized an eight year old with a bottle of baby oil. So he sawd himized an eight year old when they bought a little baby oil. She said that now the mother is still alive and so is the eight year old. She said that he kept asking her where the money is throughout this whole thing and she said that she said, she quote said, I swear to God that there's no money. And he got angry when she said that and he started telling her you swear to Satan.

What the fuck? Then he raped her again and made her swear to Satan and then he left. Now her statement after this was quote, he's dangerous beyond words. So brutal, so mean, so cruel. His eyes were like an animal, it's not human. That is the not, oh my god. Yeah, that one even know how to continue to do this. I know, my insides are like garbage right now. I actually just felt like I was gonna throw up. Yeah, that one was hard to get out.

I don't like kids things, man. It's not. That one, when I read that, and it's like, I have to like erase that from my... Well, I mean, you have to say it. Like that's... Because it's like I have to like erase that from my well I mean you have to say it like that's because it's one of the way in order to understand what I meant when I said he is by far the worst horrible monster he that needs to be said because you need to see the depths of depravity that he sings to I mean fuck face to have to do that to somebody. No limit. I just don't understand. There was no, like plenty of, I'm sorry,

and you know what, I'm just gonna go ahead and say, plenty of people go through horrible shit in their lives. Oh yeah? Yeah, I get that your child was horrible, and I'm sorry for that, but other people go through that and don't do even nearly as bad things. Exactly, they just go through life and they get better.

That is. No, and that's why what the he's a very good case study for nature because it's like, yeah, nothing makes you do that. No, nothing. It's one thing to have an abuse abuse of childhood and you turn into a shit violent human being, but that's beyond.

It is so wild and inconceivable in my mind to think that anyone could ever even think to do that. Yeah. That's the thing. It's like you just literally can't wrap your brain away right now. I'm blown away right now. I'm blown away. I'm blown away.

I mean, that's beyond. And this poor mother just had watched her husband just got shot in the head next to her out of nowhere. Where did they sleep? She must have been in shock for her. And then your eight year old, that happens while you're there and you can't stop. That's what really got me. What can you do? This poor mother couldn't stop that. And that's like, I don't know how you get by after that. I really don't. I think, and I almost think, and maybe he's not

this smart, to be honest, but it's like, there's somewhere in his brain thinking, I'm leaving these people worse off than if I killed them. No, I think, like somewhere, he's probably sitting there being like, this is worse, so I'm gonna leave you alive. I think he was that evil. Right? I think it's like, that's what you alive. I think he was not evil. Right? I think it's like that's what I think.

I think he was that evil that he wasn't just going all unpowerful and I can do this. I think he was going, no, no. I'm literally leaving you with the worst fucking possible life I possibly can. So he's even worse. He's so mean. Because he would be doing them a favorite.

Kill them at that point. Yeah. Like at that point, as that mother, I would be like, honestly shoot me in the face. Like that would, how do you ever? So it's like that kind of thing. It's that's what I mean, man. He is beyond. He's so gross. Like so gross, beyond gross. And if you thought that was a crazy, like he's not done that night. But that was the worst of this. That was, that's the worst.

Okay. Yeah. I would say that that's definitely, that one stuck out to me as the worst. Because I'm actually like in chocolate now. Like my brain is not saying. That make you want to normally fuck. Well, that's same night of delight.

Oh, yeah. He wasn't done. He wasn't done. He went to 60 year, eight year old Max, Max on needing in his 66 year old wife Leila Ellen needing He went to their house. He brought a machete with him to this one. Where do you get a machete? Exactly. He's literally he is Everything what do you do on everything? He hacks them both in bed with the machete and then shoots them both in the head and then he robs the home and chops them up more after death

So he mutilates their bodies So again, he has literally no fucking pattern like you can't understand what's going on in his fucking brain Any explanation when they caught him about like what the fuck was wrong with him. He's evil. That's what he said He said I'm evil Like he literally is like, I am working for the devil. This is what I'm trying to do. That legitimately makes me believe that like, there is some crazy force out there that like takes over people.

I feel like it's like a demon. Yes, yes, it's a demonic thing. Because it's like, he literally attributes it to like, I'm evil. I'm working for evil. And it's like, yeah, you are. Like, 100%. Like, he doesn't give any no other explanation that just sign me.

That's just evil. Fucking chills, dude. Well, and at this point, obviously, like, he's done multiple in the same nights, everything like that. So the media was going crazy. But he wasn't even named the Night Stalker yet. At this point, they were calling him the walk-in killer.

That was like their one they landed on for a while, the walk-in killer. Well, at this point, gun sales shot up in the area. People were sleeping with axes and tyrants next to their beds, like, no windows were open, even though it was a super hot summer. And fresh airs for dead people, so good on them. Oh my God.

Get an air conditioning. Even an air conditioning, I'd be like, you know what? I've just been sleeping in our key this time. I don't want it. The LAPD was a fucking mess. So they had no idea what was going on. Like who were? Yeah, I just went back.

August 6th, 36 year old Chris and 27 year old Virginia Peterson were sleeping in bed. They were, he came into their house, he shot Virginia in the face, and then he shot Chris in the temple. They fucking lived and fought him off. After being shot in the face. She got shot in the face, and he got shot in the fucking temple and he fucking bailed like a little bitch because these two people after getting shot I'm gonna reiterate in

the face and in the temple fought his ass like not all heroes were capes. Did the bullet just not go all the way in? Apparently it's couldn't have, I mean it couldn't have penetrated like far We're in certain parts of that brain But they both lived and they were both able to give a description of him what a bunch of mother fucking bad Crazy because like not only do you live through that which is like what are you? But then you fight him to the point where he bails because you've like, like, you're working for a force like you are. You're working for a force like you are.

You're working for a force like you are. That one made me, that was like a glimmer of good, good things. Because they do that. I want them to be my brother from another mother. Right, like, I want to talk to them. I want to be like, you guys are awesome. Can we interview them? Seriously, just be like, can you just talk to me about being a badass?

Like, hot wow. Well, that was August 6th. You know what, how the fuck do you ever fall asleep again? Exactly. I would just be drinking coffee at all. I would be in the main lining espresso. Well in two days later because again he's on a tear. August 8th 35 year old this one's sad too. No they all are. Yeah it really is. They're all awful but like some of them just hitch a um, I believe his name is Elias Abeloth and he is wife Sikina. We're sleeping in bed. He

wished immediately shot in the head and killed like that. His wife said that she was, because she lived through this. Oh God. She was immediately punched in the face and thrown to the floor. Out of dead sleep. Oh God. So he, she heard the boom next to her. She immediately punched in the face and thrown to the floor. Out of deadly. Oh God. So she heard the boom next to her. She was punched in the face and then thrown on the floor. Like that's what you wake up to. He then threatened to kill her children if she didn't provide valuables because she had

two children in the house. He made her swear to Satan per use because that's his thing now. And he raped her several times. They had kids aged three years and two months. They were unharmed. But this case is the one that finally gives him the night stocker name. I don't know why it just happened to be. And I did read something that said that the three-year-olds did walk in in the middle of it and he tied the three-year-old up and put them in a different room. Oh my god. So I read a CBS Los Angeles article about this one and her sons are like 30 now, obviously.

And her sons said that... No. And her sons said that their mother waited until they were older to tell them what happened to their father. She originally told them that he died of cancer to protect their... I would, you good for me. And one of them is quoted as saying she is such a good mom. She never wanted me to know about any of it. She held all of it in until I was 16.

One of them said that. I'm not joking you. I legitimately feel like I'm right to cry. Like she didn't tell them anything. What a... Oh my god. Like, what a mom. That is... Like she didn't tell them anything. What a, oh my god. Like what a mom. That is like I'm gonna cry out. Cause she knew there's no reason.

It's like she had to hold all that inside. Her self. How do you fucking do that to somebody, dude? Yeah. And it's like so what a, and she never remarried. Like she said that like, and she, when she talked about her husband, she was like he was such a good person, such a good father.

Like you're trying to make me cry. Well, just like, it's like, no, that's horrible. Like, he's just walking into these homes and just, just trying. I hope that every single day Richard Ramirez got like, was sort of my, like, through his eyeballs. Really? Seriously, with baby oil.

Like, honestly. Well, luckily, he, it's like a great thing that he died in this awful way, but it's also like, he should've lived in 53, I think. 120, you know, exactly. Fucked up every day. Exactly. And it's like, he really only had, I think he had 23 years on death row, which is a lot. That's what still, not enough.

I would like more. I just burped, sorry, I was, not enough. I would like more. I just burped Sargeus. Excuse you. But no, detective Frank Salariner, who is a fucking badass. We'll hear his name in other cases from here on out. He's the one who nailed this case. He's fucking amazing. And like we said last week, I believe we said, he caught the green river killer, too. He said this case was literally enveloping his every second.

Like he said he could not. And he said his kids were coming to me and young kids and were like, please catch the bad man daddy. And he was like, literally I could not think of anything else but getting this guy off the fucking streets. Like he's like a detective. He is a fucking detective. This is like, I don't know, this is fucked up to say, but can you imagine living through something like that? Like it would be like horrible. We have a couple, we have someone on our Instagram

that said they were growing up in Los Angeles around that time. Like that's fucking wild. Like I can't imagine. Like mom, my mother was in Boston and was a young woman during the Boston Strangler stuff and she lived with a bunch of girls in an apartment where you could open the apartment with a credit card. Yeah. And I was like, ma, how the fuck did you sleep?

Like that blew my mind. Crazy shit has happened to mom. But enough about my amazing mother. He was. So he's the one, Frank Salano is the one who connected the Avilla footprints and all the pentagram symbols and stuff. He started connecting them all and saying this is one guy. Thank you, Frank. So he actually went down himself to places like Skid Row and look at the picture. Look at the picture. To his Avilla footprints. He would talk to people on Skid Row.

He would get descriptions. he was matching shit, like he was putting himself in that shit. Yes. LAPD couldn't manage to fuck him, figure out what the hell was going on. And this guy's like in there, talking about on Skid Row. They're some ones who are inserted heavily into their assholes.

Like thank God for Detective Frank Salano. So after this last case, he called a press conference, and he told everyone that there was one serial killer that this was one and that he was operating around the area and that he had killed almost a dozen people by this time. He literally told everyone, buy weapons, lock your doors and try to stay safe. Like he was literally on a press conference saying, guys, buy fucking weapons and lock your doors. Can you imagine seeing that? I would be like, I'm moving. No, I would probably move.

I would move. I'm not kidding. And obviously a lot of people couldn't just pick up and move. I would go into a cage that, but it's like, no, I would try to go somewhere. But it's like, can you imagine not having the option? Well, yeah, right now, would never have the option to go anywhere.

It's like, I can't even imagine. So that's terrifying now His description was being passed around everywhere and there were sketches These sketches are so bad First of all they get him with gray hair, which I'm not I have no idea what that's about Because I was like the middle and they had it with like bulging eyes It just I'm gonna gonna post on the Instagram because they were like, let's make him look as evil as a son.

It's the least. It's the least thought that like the Ted Bunny ones were bad. They're, those ones were so accurate compared to this one. It's so bad. So now he knows that the heat is on him because he's starting to see that they're zeroing in and that they're connecting all these things. So he knows L.A. is bananas right now for him.

So he leaves town for San Francisco. For San Francisco. Wake up. San Francisco. Yeah. We have two very different thoughts on that. So while he's in San Fran, he's like, I'm not going to, this is my vacation time. He breaks into the home of Peter and Barbara Pan.

Yes. Peter Pan. T. Oh. Can he just take a vacation? No. He killed 66 year old Peter Pan. No. With a gunshot to the temple with that 25 caliber handgun.

62 year old Barbara Pan was beaten viciously and raped before being shot in the head and left for dead. Oh my god. I couldn't find accurately. I'm pretty sure she lived. So he then drew a pentagram and wrote the words Jack the Knife on the wall in lipstick. What is that even like? Jack the Knife is from the Judas Priest song, so I don't know. It goes back a lot further than that, but I'm assuming it's-

He was listening to that? Yeah, I'm sure he was listening to Judas Priest he was making all these bands horrible yeah he was giving them bad press really taking their records sales down now this is when the media finally revealed that of the ship chuprin evidence and Ramirez was obviously very into watching the coverage of his crimes yeah and so he saw this and he immediately threw those sneakers over the side of his crimes. Of course, because he thought he was the titties. And so he saw this and he immediately threw those sneakers over the side of the Golden Gate Bridge that night. Wow. Yeah.

So then he returns back to LA. Where are you going to do this? When he goes to LA, he's not probably. He goes back to LA. He's probably getting like a note name. He's like, he ran to pay us. Yeah, he's just getting like, a Vida. It's like the generic version of a Via.

So he returned back to LA. And when he got there, he attempted to break into James Romero's home, who, and I think his family had just returned from vacation. Now, his 13 year old son happened to be awake at the time. Oh, God. And he alerted his parents that some creep ass was prowling around the house.

Cause he could hear him. He was like, I hear somebody outside of the fucking house. That's terrible. James scared Richard off. How? I think you ran outside of the house with like a fucking gun. It was like, get out of my house. Scared him off, but he was able to see the vehicle

he left in and got a partial plate. Oh, shit. So he thought this guy was just, cause he just thought it was a burglary attempt. So he thought this guy was just because he just thought it was a burglary attempt. So he called the police and gave that. Was this in San Francisco? No, this was in LA. But I think he was just like, I don't know if it wasn't that late or if he just was like, he just thought it was scared off the screen. But he called the police and gave them the description of the car and the partial play. Whoa. So I believe it was the same night.

There was an engaged couple, 30-year-old Bill Karns in 29-year-olds, Inaz Erickson. He broke into their house. He shot Bill three times in the head immediately. Then he said to the woman, quote, you know who I am, don't you? I'm the one they are writing about in the newspapers and on TV.

Then he made her swear to Satan and beat her. Oh my God. He tied her up with neckties. He sawd amized her while making her say she loves Satan. What? He didn't kill her. And then he said, tell him the Night Stalker was here as he left.

Can you imagine? All you know about this dude, all you've been warned, and that dude walks out and is like, all you've been warned, and he walked, that dude walks out and is like, telling the night stock I was here, I would throw up all over myself, like knowing what he's capable of. And what he's already done to you? For the rest of my life. Well, Bill survived. No way. After being shot three times in the head. Yep. He survived. And I, Nez, could give a detailed description of Richard Ramirez. Yes, you know what, go fuck yourself. So police now had the descriptions that they were getting in from everybody. And they were

able to take a, what's it called? Casing for Prince Kasey. What is it like a mold? Yeah, mold. Why couldn't I think of it? I was like, is it that simple? Like a fucking case. What is it? A mold? I'm like making a weird gesture with my hand. Somehow you got that. I was like, a weird gesture with my hand. Somehow you got that. I was like a mold of the footprint that was found at the Romero House. Oh, okay. And I think they were able to match it at least with the size. Are we near you?

Because this is the best at the anything. We are, it's getting really good. So then they found his stolen car abandoned, the one that he's flooded, and the one that they'd already gotten an inscription of, the partial plate from James or Marrow. And they dusted it for fingerprints. He had wiped it clean except for one partial print on the rear view mirror. Boom, positively identified as Richard Ramirez.

Oh, yeah. He had been arrested before on drug charges and like traffic violations and shit. Okay. So they already had him. There was a mug shot there. So they already had his fingerprints. So that's why he was so careful about leaving fingerprints because he knew he was in the system. Wow. Well boom, he came up. So now one night during this whole thing, remember his friend Donna Myers? Yeah,

who he lived with on and off? He said that you weren't gonna say she was a ship. Yeah, because she was because she did help. I mean, I think I'm more, I was being like, Judgy about her lifestyle. Or, you know, people. She's like, I'm not gonna judge.

But they were sitting, this was his friend in LA, they were sitting watching TV together one night and a police composite flashed on, this was before they had his mug shot. Can you imagine sitting next to the night stop her reading like, hey, I think you're in the night.

The police composite sketch flashed on at the screen and he said, hey, Donna, do you think I'm the night stocker? And if she remembers saying hell no, Rick, you ain't got enough guts to kill anybody. And she was like, she thought it was just a joke, but he said he wouldn't leave it alone. So he said, aren't you afraid of being alone with me in the house? I'd be like, now I am. And he asked. And then he said, he said, what would Donna, what would you do if you broke into a home and found out

people were home? Would you kill them or what would you do? And she was like, I'd be like, I just wouldn't break in anybody's home. And she said he was having a strange guy as a weird sense of humor. He's just like being weird. So she's like, we were on drugs. Now, Thursday, August 29th, Donna Meyer's daughter went to the police with jewelry, which was a pearl ring and a gold bracelet. And she said she got them from a man named Rick who sometimes stayed with her mother. By the next day Donna Myers had given the police Ramirez's name so she helped because she all of a sudden was like you know what

they're so weird here. So they were starting to close in. Now I know what happens and I'm on the edge of my seat. Police connected at all. They have the mug shot of Ramirez taken eight months earlier. So they're just trying to find out where he is right now? Exactly. So this was after the stolen vehicle and the prints were found, along with the descriptions, the mug shot, they have everything.

Now they're literally just being like, OK, guys, we have them. We just got to find them. So the police decided to release the mug shot. Yes. To everybody. It was broadcast on TV news shows, Friday evening. It appeared in LA newspapers, Saturday morning, and during a press conference, they stated,

we know who you are now, and soon everyone else will. There will be no place for you to hide. Yes. And there wasn't. God. August 30th. Ramirez took a bus to Tucson, Arizona to visit his brother. August 30th Ramirez took a bus to Tucson, Arizona to visit his brother. Now at this point, they had just released all this shit the night before. He had no fucking clue that his mug shot was plastered all over fucking Los Angeles. No idea. And like gets on the bus. He had now, he didn't end up seeing his brother in Tucson. So he returned back to LA early in the morning on August 31st.

Again, no idea what he's returning to. So police were actually staking out the bus terminal. He came through, but he walked right past them. Dude, fucking LA kiddie. Your thumb out of your bum. Like, come on, guys. Like, Jesus. So still having no idea that he's plastered everywhere, Ramirez just stops at a convenience

store and grabs a copy of La Opinion newspaper that morning and sees his photo on the front page, as well as several other periodicals along the shelf. So does he run the fuck out? So obviously he starts a fucking panic, and then shit really gets ratcheted up because some two old ladies in the store were looking at the newspaper, looked up, saw him, and started screaming and pointing at him, El Matador, which means the killer. The killer. The killer. The killer. The killer. The killer. The killer. The killer. The killer. The killer. The killer. The killer. The killer. The killer. The killer. The killer. The killer. The killer. The killer. The killer. The killer. The killer. The killer. The killer. The killer. The killer. The killer. The killer. The killer. The killer. The killer. The killer. The killer. The killer. The killer. The killer. The killer. The killer. The killer. The killer. The killer. The killer. The killer. The killer. The killer. The killer. The killer. The killer. The killer. The killer. The killer. The killer. The killer. The killer. The killer.

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And he stopped several times to try to fucking car jack people wow because he just panicked So he keeps running he reaches East Hubbard Street where he makes the really bad mistake of trying to steal where he makes the really bad mistake of trying to steal Festino Pignans Red Mustang Coupe. Now Pignans wrestled him to the fucking ground. So he gets away from him. He races across the street and attacks a woman named Angelina De Letor, who's 28 years old. She was leaving in her own car to buy birthday presents

for her daughter. And Angelina surrenders the keys and is like, fucking, it was a poor Grenada, she was like, take it. So she runs screaming for help. Now this guy named Jose Bergen, I think Bergen, sorry if I say that wrong. He was 55 years old, he heard her screaming, saw this whole thing, he promptly ran across the street

and grappled with Ramirez Like no one's scared of this motherfucker. They're like I'm gonna take you this fucking Like a little bitch. This community is a bunch of fucking badass Like they are like fuck this is my favorite thing that's ever Because they say they like you terrorized our community like we are one. Well now after Jose is grappling with him now Angelinaina's husband, the one who's car he just tried to steal and she ran away, he comes out manual day-lator, 32 years old, he arrives with a steel rod that he has taken from his front gate. Yeah. He smashes

Ramirez on the head, then Ramirez keeps running with an entire fucking community chasing him down the street. Like a parade. Manuel was able to catch up with him and fucking beat him again with the metal rod. Wasn't there like kids in shit? Oh yeah, everybody. Literally. He caused him to fall against a fence when he fell. Jose's son, the guy who first was grappling with him.

His son's Jamie and Julio arrived as well. And he was literally getting the shit kicked out of him by an entire group like mobbosies. This is my favorite thing in the world. Now, they held him down and mercilessly beat him. Good. A police officer was stated later saying if we hadn't got there, they would have killed him. Which I'm glad that they got there in the head to go jail.

Now, when the police officer came through the crowd to arrest him, Richard Ramirez said to the police officer, thank God you came. Oh, you mean thanks, Satan. You don't plus the asshole. You're fucking dumbass. Like, thank God. Oh, I'm sorry, you believe now.

A fake mother fucker. Oh, you're thanking God suddenly that you're that you're alive. That's you. That somebody spared you. Yeah. And you know what? No one spared you, sweetie. And honestly, knowing that he looked up at a police officer and said, thank God, you're here. I that that's, that's, hmm, that's delicious. It's delicious. I wish that police officer kicked him in the face. It was, swear to Satan bitch. Well, there's actually pictures of him like being led away from this and in the police car.

His head is like fucking violently bleeding. Like, he looks like he got the shit. His, the back of his shirt is black and you can see the blood stains on the back of his shirt. So it's great. I'll post some of those two, they're great pictures. You want to fuck with people? Yeah.

You'll fuck right back. This is literally my favorite way that was here. Like, no, you can't talk to that. I feel like they should all be caught that way. And later, the police said they were like, we are so, like the police. And you would think that maybe the police would feel like they'd have to be like,

don't take vigil antichestus in here. No, do it. The police came out and were like, like all the investigators were like, we are so proud of our community right now. Like you guys are fucking mad. Because that's just not like your father is your child. Because he had terrified the community for over a year.

It's like a year. So when this whole news broke, Julian Ramirez, Richard's father, was bewildered by the things that people were saying his son had done. And he was quoted as saying, in my heart, I can't believe he would have arrived at that. But if the authorities there have proof,

what can we do? Yeah, Julian, you must have zero idea why your son could do something so fucking terrible, right? I feel like maybe he could. Like he didn't know, you definitely didn't abuse him. You didn't allow his mother to breathe toxic fumes while pregnant with him. You didn't let him hang out with a sociopathic cousin Mike. You definitely didn't let him move in with his other sisters

peeping Tom husband. And then you didn't let him move to LA to live on skin row when you were 16. Yeah, you have no idea why he could have turned out to be a bad guy, right? Yeah, he can't, he's bewildered. How? We were like, fuck you, Julian. Thanks a lot, Julian. Like I'm not saying it was totally his parents fault but I'm saying like you played you played a hand

regardless of what happened here like with him it's like you created a violent human being because you showed him violence so it's like fuck you for being like what yeah he's a violent person that's crazy like I know I am you beat his mother and his siblings and him on the reg like fuck you Julian That just pissed me off. No, that makes me mad too. So Now an interesting thing is he called every woman he encountered a bitch during the attacks because I'm sure that was Probably partly partly his father I'm sure his father said awful things to his mother while he was beating the shit out of her

Yeah, and then also cousin Mike was teaching him not to give shit about women, so I'm sure that was put in there somewhere. Now, because this was such a prominent thing that he said, when they had a lineup that included it with him for the survivors to pick them out, they had them all say, shut up bitch. Because they wanted them to be sure that that was the voice. That's just a little interesting to it. That is crazy.

Now, his trial became like a shining moment for him because he loved the fucking attention. Of course. He drew pentagrams on his hand, and he shouted Hail Satan, like out of nowhere. And he would. And then, yeah.

And then there was, and some of these pictures, man, are like beyond. I'd be like, do you want us to go get the intercord with like aviator sunglasses on? His hair all nicely Flucked out Nice suit on and he came in and was like leaning backwards Smirking like laughing and then he turned to the like groupies that came because oh, yeah

What the fuck is wrong with you? And it was like the same with 10 bucks. They were fucking come and sit behind him And I have no problem saying what the fuck is wrong with you. No, that kind of shit, it's like what the, especially with Richard and Iris. And how disrespectful to the family and the people at the table. He would turn around and wink at them and smile at them. And I posted one where he was waving behind him.

Well, this fucking creepy ass. I don't think he was. They had to do something with one of the jurors because he was literally seducing her across the room and she was like getting into it like also she got he has Holotosis. So really really. So like we said he had a ton of groupies, but what the luckiest lady of them all was Doreen Lioi. She was like a magazine editor, like a freelance magazine editor, and people said she was a fucking like she lived in a fantasy world and was like a recluse herself. She wrote him upwards of 75 letters during her his incarceration and in 1988 he proposed to her and on October 3rd, 1996, they got married in San Quentin state prison. Like what is wrong with you?

Now for a while she claimed that she was going to commit suicide when he was executed. But they ended up separating before that happened because weirdly enough that marriage did not work out. How do you propose to somebody when you're in prison? I don't really know. Like I love this licorice that I could maybe turn into a ring. Would you like this licorice? So then on September 20th, 1989, he was convicted of 13 counts of murder,

five attempted murders, 11 sexual assaults and 14 burglarers. Jesus Christ. Now those are just the ones they could prove. Those money more, obviously. He was sentenced to die in California's gas chamber on November 7th, 1989. When he was brought out after this sentencing,

he smirked at the cameras and its on tape. We'll play a little clip of it. And said, big deal, death always went with the territory. See, in Disneyland. What the fuck? Yeah. The trial actually caused $1.8 million. It was the most expensive in California's history

until OJ surpassed it. In 1996. That's wild. Yeah. So, well, and this is really interesting actually. Well and Jail in 1987 awaiting trial, he was actually in the same Jail as Sean Penn, who was in there for reckless driving and punching an extra on the set of the movie, like he's known for, because he's known for being like a hothead.

They saw each other around and shit, and after about a month Ramirez asked him, asked a guard for Penn's autograph. And Ramirez then wrote Penn a letter later saying, quote, hey Sean, stay tough and hit them again. Richard Ramirez, 666. What the fuck? Sean wrote back. Go fuck yourself. Quote, you know Richard, it's impossible to be incarcerated and not feel a certain kinship with your fellow inmates.

Well Richard, I have done the impossible. I feel absolutely no kinship with you. I hope gas descends upon you before sanity does. Good. Which is an awesome response. That is awesome. So I thought that was interesting. But unfortunately on June 7th, 2013.

A day before my birthday. Yeah. He died at Marin General Hospital from liver failure due to complications from B cell lymphoma. He also had several complications from years of substance abuse and chronic hepsi viral infections So his body will basically just shit bed. Wow Now at the end he turned bright highlighter green because The reason for that is liver failure is often associated with jaundice and he had a very severe case So there's a substance called Billy Rubin and it builds up and causes John this. And it's created when hemo globin, which is the part of the red blood

cell that carries oxygen around your body. It's when it breaks down. Normally that's flushed out when you pee or poop, but when it builds up, then it turns you green because the substance itself is green. So he's just so full of shit. So he's so full of just dirty fucking toxic. He was eatin' Billy Rubin then he was dead. Wow, so yeah. Richard Ramirez. And I think he was only like 53 years old.

I wish that he got a total of three. He spent like 23 years on death row. I like that Sean Panroot him and said that. I love that. That's my favorite part too. That is a great one. So yeah, that's the conclusion of Richard Ramirez. That was soccer. I'm doozy. Yeah, it was a doozy. I'm like, whoo. Yeah, I think a breath after that. I need a

Captain kind of slurpy after that. I know. Now I get to go in the morgue. I get to go to bed and I'm a little nervous. I know. I think I'm gonna listen to a bravo podcast on the way. I'm gonna listen to straight up with Stasi. I'm gonna listen to watch what crap ends. Everyone listening to this podcast right now is probably like, who the fuck is Stasi? They're probably all like, what just happened? What is it that you just don't like?

How did you both just turn to like that? To really the other way. Yeah. Sometimes you gotta have like, I'm a Gemini shit. I am not. I am too sots to me. But I need to survive. So all the Gemini shit. I am not to sides to me, but I need to survive

So all the Gemini after talking about all this well, there's a lot of a serial killers that are Gemini's I know a lot of a ton of Serial colors are Gemini's and Virgos. I think it's like a split personality Yeah, oh my eyes on you. So yeah, so that's Richard Ramirez the nice soccer part too So we enjoyed it. We're gonna do next week. How about we hit the Lake Bottom murders from Finland? Yeah. Cause you just told me about that. Yeah.

And it sounds, I feel like that sounds like the diet will pass on. Yeah, it's got like that vibe to it cause it's like a mystery. So it's a fun mystery from Finland. And I think and it's like the mystery. So it's a fun mystery from Finland. And I think and it's like the biggest case from Finland. Okay. A while. So I think that's a fun one.

Camping stories are fucked up. Because it's fucked up. Camping. For sure. Because all these are going to be fucked up. But it's less intense than this one. It's more like just the dayout love pass was intense and like a different. And it's like it's in the way. Yeah. It's like conspiracy theory. Yeah, kind of shit. So yeah, we'll do that. We'll do the lake bottom murders. Okay. And so stay tuned

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