Morbid - Episode 17: Rod Ferrell “The Vampire Cult Killer” AKA Turbo Douche

Episode Date: September 4, 2018

Rod Ferrell was a special kind of jerk. Convinced he was a 500 year old vampire named Vesago living in a 16 year old boy's body, he took his otherworldly fantasies to the brink by carrying out two senseless, brutal murders. He didn't just kill anyone, though. By his own admission, he murdered the parents of one of his cult followers for the rush of it. Does he care? Nope. Does he still think he is a 500 year old vampire? Yup. This one is a trip, guys. Sources: Death of Innocence: Children Who Kill by Bud Weiser https://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/lake/os-convicted-vampire-cult-killer-howard-scott-anderson-20170322-story.html https://amurdermostfoul.com/2017/02/21/the-kentucky-vampire-clan/ https://listverse.com/2018/03/31/10-dark-facts-about-the-vampire-cult-killer-rod-ferrell/ https://www.wkms.org/post/slideshow-murray-vampire-clan-murders-happened-20-years-ago-week#stream/0 http://www.gothicsubculture.com/vamp-clan.php See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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But still, for me, I'm not... And his mom's not about that. Thanks for slumming it this weekend. And I was like, I feel like a dick. I just don't like... Like, I don't like that. Yeah, it's not for me. I'm not a big camper, I think.

Yeah, I like... I can see where people find fun And then it's just not my thing. Yeah, so Yeah, um, I just like woke up last night and I thought that the Blair Witch was outside So I couldn't stop thinking about it and I couldn't fell asleep and Annie was like, oh, why didn't you just make me up? And I was like oh, I did and you fucking rolled over and went back to sleep She was like literally. I was like, I'm kind of scared and you fucking rolled over and went back to sleep. She was like, literally, I was like, I'm kind of scared, and she goes, it's all right.

And she rolls over. I was like, that was so comfortable. I mean, she told you, it's all right. I was like, it's all right. It's not okay that the Blair, which is like said, it's all right. It's so, it's so, so sweet. It's like, whoa, you used to race all my fear.

It's just like, dead silent, and I fucking so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so noise. Something happening with me. I also, I just want to put it out there. Um, we've given a lot of free publicity to the Netflix show Dark Tourist and I think that they should sponsor us. Oh, that'd be so cool. I'm just putting it out there. Alima has a crush on the host. What's his name? David Ferrier. He's adorable. He is. He's a very, David Ferrier is a very likable person. He's red New Zealand, so he has the the New Zealand accent which is already makes you like a bowl. It's always delightful. Yeah, it's just delightful. And then he's also has the pierest Instagram account I have ever seen. Oh, I need to follow him. There's a lot of animals. Oh, there's a lot of just just it's just pure. It's very pure. It's very far in few between in this life that you find people. He's a very pure-pear person and he's a pure people. He's a pure people. He's a pure people.

He's such a pure people. And no, but seriously, I keep giving them like so much publicity and like it. By the way, Netflix is not paying me for this, but they should. We actually are inspired by anyone right now. No. So, hey, Blue Apron.

Hey. Hello, Fresh. What's good? Love and meal kits. I want a Casper mattress. I actually really do want a Casper mattress. I do too and I actually need meal kits. I want a Casper mattress. I actually really do want a Casper. I do too and I actually need a new so hey Casper mattress.

Please, please. Guys go buy a Casper mattress and say that morbid sun you. Go tell everybody that we need to be sponsored. Sent you? I'm like gonna be like excuse me. Are you looking for a gravestone? You're looking for a gravestone. You think you're in the wrong place.

This is a different kind of Casper. It's not the friendly ghost. I don't know well. L-O-L. Bye. So today, let's just dive right into it. Mmm. I think this is a case that you're really only familiar with if you're like a super creep who like...

I actually don't know this case. Yeah, it's a very deep dive one that like, it's, I remember seeing like documentaries like here and there about it, like not documentaries, but like little television things about it. And I got super interested in it and decided to do a deep dive. So hopefully this is new to you guys, because it's always fun to hear in new case. I'm excited. I'm excited. Is the vampire cult killer, Rod Ferrell.

Also known as the Wendorf murders. Wendorf, also known as the Wendorf murders. Wendorf murders? Yes, the Wendorf murders. Okay. Has a lot of names. So, this story is basically going to center around a group of misfit Kentucky teenagers who formed a vampire clan. Which find?

Which find? Yeah, it's totally fun. But then they took it way too far and they allowed their fantasies to kind of turn into real mayhem and real murder Not all of them really only one the only there is always one fucking bad see yeah, and it's like Identifying as a vampire is totally fine like we support you. Yeah, that's cool We are here for you. Like by all means. From what I've seen about like most real vampire clans or families, whatever they,

I think they all call themselves different like clans, families, whatever. Covins. They have like, you know, good rules. Yeah. They're not supposed to hurt anyone. Yeah, and it's like we're supposed to be consenting. They seem super like chill people, but these people, they took it into like a place. Oh, they took it into like a cliche place. Well, that's the thing. Like, these kind of cases give other things like a bad name.

Yeah, and that's why like vampire vampires have to be like, you know, I'm just a vampire. Yeah, like, this is just who I am. Please just let me live And it's right and then these people go and do like the what the movies are telling you of vampires So yeah, don't murder people. I'd be so annoyed if I was a vampire and people were giving me a bad name Well, just sucks that like you're already you've already taken this kind of leap to like just be who you are. Which is hard to do in any. And that takes a lot of... Yeah, I mean like in a lot of, you know, with anything, not just being a vampire.

I don't know, it takes a lot to come out and say who you are. And it's like they just, and then they get these people who are murdering people and being like, I'm a vampire and it just makes it that much harder. Yeah, so it just sucks. So fuck these guys. Well, like don't be mean to people who identify as vampires because they're not this guy. We just want to make that very clear that like this is not... Don't be mean to anybody.

In fact, and I think I have it like way down in my notes, but the lead investigator on this case, I was watching a documentary about it and he actually says in the documentary, this murder had nothing to do with the occult. It had nothing to do with vampirism. This is just a bad guy who decided to do bad things. And he had to put some kind of lead- And so when the lead investigator in Florida where this ended up happening is saying that where like no offense to Florida but like there's a lot of places there that are not very progressive. Yeah, that's the rest of the thinking.

That's pretty for him to say this has nothing to do with vampirism. Like don't connect it with that. It doesn't have to do with the occult. That's just a shitty dude who did a really shitty thing. So like he's evil, that's it. So even the investigators don't connect this with it. So don't connect this with real people who identify as vampires. That's in my PSA. So Roderick Justin Rod Farrell. Roderick Dustin Rod Farrell. Yes. Justin or Dustin? Justin, Justin. But he goes by Rod.

Was born on March 28th, 1980. He grew up in Murray, Kentucky, which is known as the buckle of the Bible belt of the United States with one church to every 300 people. Whoa. And it's also where Ted Bundy tried to kidnap and murder Carol, legendary hair of the ranch. Oh, shit. It was in Murray, Kentucky.

Yes, with the old hair. At like the fashion spot or somewhere. It was like a mall called like the fashion spot. I don't remember. I would try. But yeah, I just thought it was a fun little, you know. And this town is alcohol free. It's a dry town. That can I just say.

And unfortunately Rudd kind of put it on the mat. They're not psyched about it. So they're, I mean they're, but they're all kind of, because again there's a church for every group of 300 people. So it's a very religious town. It's a very conservative, values town, you know. And actually, in one of the documentaries I was watching, a guy who owns a place called Circus Skate there. Sounds like a lot of fun.

And he created Circus Skate, and it's like a roller skating rink. That's cool. So we're taking it way back. I used to go to a roller skating rink when I was younger. Really? I've never been to one. I've never gone to a roller skating rink. That's cool. So we're taking it way back. I used to go to a roller skating rink when I was younger. Really? I've never been to one. I've never gone to a roller skating rink. I've gone to ice skating rinks.

Roller skating rinks are fun. I know they probably would be. And he created this. He said, because he wanted to have a place where all the upstanding, pure kids can have good clean fun. That's so sweet. Which is very nice, except he's also very judgy. Oh, I'm just gonna put that out there.

Does he not let certain people in? Is there a password? No, I don't think that's the thing. But in the, and actually this is really funny because in the documentary, he was talking about this whole, you know, this whole murder that ends up happening and he described it as these extreme, ready, this is how, no this is how no I'm assuming he

meant anomalies and he said anomalies no yep that involved the occult I don't try to deal with them I just want them away from me and we should try to prevent it from happening in Murray Kentucky or any place in the civilized world so keep your animal animalies away from me. Keep your animalies away from me. And he was literally saying anything that is not Christian and clean, get it out of here. We shouldn't have it anywhere in the civilized world. It's like, oh, so anyone that's different from you. Like animalies, first of all, I was dying at,

because I was like really dying. And he said it like several times. So it's like, that's not a slip of the tongue. And it's like these people identify as vampires, let them identify as vampires. And what if they're Satanists, let them be Satanists, let them be animals. Freedom of religion. God, let them be animalists. I want to be an animalist. I'm a proud animalist. Fuck yeah. But keep it animal. Sorry, that's a little digression, but I just wanted to let you know what we're dealing with here. Rod was raised by his mother, Sondra Gibson. He never knew whose father was.

According to Sondra, she met his father, Rick, in high school. According to her, they had the same home room, so like I'd say that's like a pretty solid foundation for compatibility to create a human life together. Yeah, right. If you don't have the same home room, I mean, what are you doing? And the relationship now. They dated for about a year and a half before she got pregnant with Rod when she was in high school. They married shortly after, but they divorced with a year. Oh. Um, so Rod was barely existing at the point that he, he pieced.

So he split before, yeah, he grew up without a father. he he pieced so he split before yeah he grew up without a father. People actually said in this documentary that I was watching that the father never even saw Rod until he was later testifying at his murder trial. Oh shit. Yeah so that sucks. Whoa yeah. Now his childhood obviously he doesn't have a father figure which people can get by with that but his childhood was pretty shitty. Oh no. His mother was an asshole. Oh good. Didn't take responsibility for her child. She divorced, she married and divorced several times and was described as quote, flighty and rootless. She was unable to hold a job for more than a few weeks at a time and she just outright refused to take care of him. So she would just hand

him off to her parents. So his grandparents, anytime she wanted a party, she would not have enough. No, they were fine, but like they also didn't want to raise her child. So they were like, and she was doing this so she could go out and party. Which you had a kid, suck it up buttercup, like it's over now like you don't get to party when you want to and you what if you have sex you will get pregnant and die and just so you know that's a main girls quote and crazy anybody does it actually believe that so and apparently she ran with like a pretty rough crowd and whenever her father Harold would like fight with her about being like, I don't like we can't take care of your child all the time, she would threaten to have someone in her quote, drug group kill him.

Jesus! Yeah, so she was a piece of shit. That's rude. So this is what he was living. Oh, and also, she was on probation in Kentucky for trying to entice a 14 year old boy into a sex act. On Vaughn. Well, she was doing a ritual with him to become a vampire herself. So they were a 14 year old in her, were drinking each other's blood and she was trying to entice him into a sex act.

Like a bye. And she was on probation. So this is the mother figure he has. Ew, how old was she? So so far we're not doing great. I mean, I don't know how old she was on probation so this is the mother figure he has. Ew, how old was she? So so far we're not doing great. I mean I don't know how old she was when that happened but. 12 to 14. Yeah, clearly two old for 14. Girl, you're in an animalie. Yeah, she's an animalie.

And so obviously the fact that like Rod later retreated into a fantasy world is not super surprising because I think he was just trying to get away like a coping mechanism exactly. Gone too far. So they moved back and forth between Murray Kentucky and Eustace Florida a lot. Okay. So he dropped out of school high school in Eustace Florida then re-enrolled back in Murray Kentucky and his mother obviously didn't give a shit about structure for him at all, because she was just flitting him back and forth. So he never really had time to make good friends either.

It was like, he just didn't have any root. Oh shit. I mean, I say all this, he's a piece of shit. Yes, I feel bad. But he did have a shitty childhood. I mean, I think he was created in some way. So as for his high school life, Rod says, quote, everything I was listening to, it was dark. It was based upon hate, war, death, pain.

That's all my music, all my movies that I watched. My bedroom was in a ray of the darker side of the occult, such as the Necronomicon, the Satanic Bible, I had upside down crosses, I had broken shards of glass laying about in the corner, I had hooks and metal cables wrapped around looking like hell razor. Wow. So that's what his bedroom looked like and his mom, if his mom was like a mom, she'd be like, hey do you want to talk about anything? You want to see like maybe therapy?

Like again, if that's what you're into, cool. Just talk to me about it. Yeah. Well, and it seems like he maybe, like, wanted some attention. Well, that's what you're about. Like, maybe just talk to me, but, like, let's talk about this.

You want to paint your room black? Okay, let's talk about it. Why do you want to do that? Right. You know, like, that's all it is. Just, like, I can talk to your kids. Let them just be them, but. But she's just neglecting her own.

Figure out what's going on. And if your kid wants to only watch Dark Shit, something's going on. Yeah, like you got it kind of. It's not just that he was painting his room black. Yeah, exactly. And he was obviously like getting ideas from this. That's like a cry for help.

And by the way, I just want to let you guys know what the Necronomicon is. Because I remember reading about it somewhere, and I don't know if everybody knows what it is. But the necromanacont, necromanacont, which is what he was just saying he had in his room along with the satanic bible and all that. It's a fictional book sometimes referred to as the book of the laws of the dead or the book of dead names and it was created by horror author H.P. Lovecraft. And it's used a lot in his other works. He also, other authors like August, Derythe, and Clark, Astjan, Smith have also

used with Lovecraft's permission that book in their works. So it's kind of been embedded into the world of fiction, which is kind of cool. But actually because of this, because it went into other works as well, people believed it was real. So publishers actually published versions of it actually after his death. Oh wow. So it's kind of like a like a necromancer,

it's like a sorcerer or wizard who summons the dead, either through messages or like zombie straight up, just summoning a dead person. That's cool. So it's kind of a long-match England, just so you know what he's talking about and what he's into. So Rod was into all this stuff and he also had another thing he was interested in.

He was pretty positive that he was a 500-year-old vampire named Visago. Well, me too. Yeah. So he was, and he was, which like I can barely remember what year in my 30s I'm in. And like, you make it to 500. And you remember exactly. You remember like you were 500.

Like that seems intense to me. If I made it to your 500, I would have been like, yeah, I'm like several hundred years old. I'm like a little, pretty old. I'd be like, I'm over a hundred years old. I'm like a little pretty old. I'm like, I'm over a hundred. I'm older than you. Whoever's asking. Yeah, like whatever.

I'm just a lot of hundreds of years old. I'm many centuries I have seen. I would not be able to be like, I'm fine. Because even now, I'm like, wait, how old am I? And I'm only in my 30s. So, this came out of him being really into a role-playing game called Vampire the Masquerade. Sounds a lot like your high school years. Pretty much except it got a lot darker.

This game is kind of like a Dungeons & Dragons style where it's like a tabletop role-playing game and the players assume very intricate creative identities like Dungeons & Dragons. And it's set in this modern world, but like super Gothic punk style, and very full of dramatic vampires. Wow. Basically. Which is fine. You want to play that? That's cool. Yeah.

I played role-playing games in high school. I didn't murder anyone. I didn't murder anyone. I just didn't murder anyone. Yeah. Whatever. Join me on my raft. No, thanks. But, goodbye. No, you were a cheerleader. We already went through this.

It was literally a season of cheerleading. Like you didn't, you were a cheerleader. Through and through. I'm the ballie girl. You were a cheerleader through and through. Even if you weren't leading chairs, you were a cheerleader. Mm-hmm. In high school. Mm-hmm. It's fine. But my role playing games didn't really go out into murderous

media. Yeah, it didn't really go that far. Good, I'm glad. So now this is a while, when he gets into this role playing game and when he moves back to Murray Kentucky from East-Sys Florida, during somewhere around his like junior senior year of high school. Okay. This is the time when he starts to become close with a local teen who's also considers himself a vampire named Jaden. That's his vampire name. His real name is like Steven or something I don't remember. Cool. Is this in Kentucky or is this in Florida?

This is in Kentucky. Okay. Can you just move from Florida to Kentucky? The two met in September 1995 at Callaway County High School in Murray, Kentucky. Rod had recently transferred, like I said, they were both 15 years old and they gravitated towards each other because according to Jaden, like everybody wanted them to fight when he came to the high school because it was like the two super golf kids and they were like you guys should fight. Like those kids? Yeah, and so they were like no, we're not gonna fight. And like Rod referred to it as the freak way of life where they were wearing like trench coats, combat boots, like goth the tire, make makeup, you know, like, and so they just kind of, instead of fighting each other, like everyone wanted, they were like, let's be friends. So in 1996, Jaden invited Rob to become a vampire

officially, because Jaden's way of doing this was that you had to cross over. There had to be a ritual of blood-drinking ritual, and that's how you become a vampire. Great. So, and he also invited him to join the vampire family that he was a leader of. And it was like a handful of other like gothic teens who considered themselves vampires. They also were super into this role-playing game, but they did it like they would act it out in real life. Like they didn't hurt each other or anything, but they were like too like, they were larping. Oh really? So this ritual that they had to go through to make Rada vampire and bring him into the cup and,

I feel like up until this point, it sounds kind of fun. Right. I mean, this is kind of like what, like I had a great childhood, so that was different. But like, and I wasn't super gaffing in school, but Robloing was different. But like, and I wasn't super gothic in school, but role-playing was fun. And yeah, so this ritual was, he took Rod to the old Salem cemetery, apparently is where somewhere in Kentucky. It's to an old tree where

quote, all chosen ones had been made by their sires. Where quote, all chosen ones had been made by their sires. He handed Rod a knife, Rod cut his arm three times and had Jaden drink from it, and then according to Rod, Jaden also, like they did it back and forth. So they became... Rod cut his... His grandpa... His arm, Jaden cut his, they drank from each other, and then according to Rod, they sat in quote, quiet meditation for

several hours after that. Beautiful, right? Rod said in an interview that he looked to Jaden as a father figure, which is sad. Wow, I got a little sad there. Yeah. Now, the membership into this vampire coven stressed obedience and loyalty to the coven. Oh, okay. And basically it was like put the family's needs before anything else. Uh-oh. Which can get a little tough. Colony. Yeah, it gets a little culty.

That's very culty. Jaden says now that after what, and you're gonna find out what Rod did, that he's not pissed at Rod for what he did, but he said about what Rod did. Because he said he didn't know better than to murder two people in cold blood. So he basically is like,

I thought he knew what this was about, and he didn't. Like I thought he knew what this family was about, and that's- Maybe he just like took it too far. Well, that's what he's saying. Yeah. Well, yeah, go ahead.

Maybe. Maybe he took it too far. I don't know. We can argue. We can't be positive. he took it too far. I don't know. We can argue. He can't be positive. He took it too far. But he's basically saying this family is about something totally different and he kind

of took it somewhere else. Now the reason that this ended up happening was Rod saw himself more as the true anti-Christ. Oh. Like he saw himself, he didn't want to conform to the rules of the group. He didn't want to have to deal with all this bullshit of like, don't hurt people. He wanted to hurt people. He wanted to hurt people. Because from what I've gathered, murder is against vampire law, just like it is against

more the law. They consider human life sacred, and this particular covenant of vampires from Mary Kentucky did cut each other and drink each other's blood But they did it under each other's consent. I think it varies from place to place Kevin and Kevin family to family. Yeah, like we've seen but typical that exactly what a vampire being a vampire means is different to a lot of people Right, but these particular ones believed in sires like he said which is like from Buffy Which might be where they got it to be quite honest. Yeah, I mean Buffy was huge at that time. It was.

And I like Buffy. I love it. I never larked it, but I didn't like it. We larked it, but that's a different story. Spike was like my first true love. I'm bringing you back. I know you had a fucking framed picture of him on your back. I did.

I have a signed photo from James Marthsters and Juliet Lando. Is that a dress-o-love? Hell yeah. Okay, continue. So yeah, I'm sorry. So because I don't know if you guys know like I'm sure a lot of our listeners have watched Buffy. Yeah, if not watch it. It's a good option. I think it's on Amazon. But sires are basically the person who makes you a vampire. You know turns turns you. So your sires supposed to be like an important thing. So Jaden was Rod's sire. So it wasn't long after he joined this vampire family, it went okay for a little while, but then it started getting a little darker because Rod basically wanted to be evil and they were like, that's not what we're doing. We're not evil. So apparently things were not going well at home for him

around this time still. You know, everything's going on there. So one night he was walking with a couple of other members of the vampire family, including Jaden. They were attempting to, according to them, all aid each other by talking about their issues. Because he said we would go and walk and talk each other through things.

Wow. Other than like, see if, stance, this sounds great. It seems pretty wonderful, right? Like, for now. Rod says as he's walking, he picked up a kitten along the way. No. Yeah, like trigger alert, guys. Oh, fuck dude.

Trigger. Okay, there's an animal thing about to happen, so. Trigger trigger trigger. Skip if you don't want to hear it. I'm not going to go into detail or anything, but like trigger trigger. Skip if you don't want to hear it. I'm not going to go into detail or anything, but like just skip it if you don't want to hear it. He was petting it. Everything was fine.

Jaden said the same thing. Like he picked it up fine. He was petting it. Everything. Then the kitten clawed him. And he said he was in such a state of mind of just being rage. Just enraged at everything.

He said as soon as he clawed me, I turned it on its back, held it by its neck and slung it against a tree, breaking its final column. Oh my God. Jaden described the moment as basically Rod said, hey see this tree and then he did it. That's what Jaden says. He's like, I remember him saying, hey see this tree, boom. Jaden said that this was the moment that he started pulling back from their friendship because he was like, what the fuck? You're going to a dark place now?

Yeah, he said he was losing touch with the family and what they were supposed to be about. So at this time, Rod was heavily into drugs. Oh no. Like acid, crank, PCP, heroin, like all the heavy hitters. What's crank? I don't know. Oh, it's crank. Crank is black, man.

Crank is crank. It's crank. Crank is black, man. Crank is crank. It's bad. And at this point, he was, by his own admission, very out of control. Like, he said he was very out of control. No one was going to be able to tell him what to do. Shit. Angie has made it easier than ever to connect with skilled professionals to get all your home projects done well.

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Again, he really didn't have a good home life and he was really leaning into that pretty hard. So not long after the cat incident, he ended up somehow getting into an actual fight with Jaden, like a fist fight. And Jaden, both of them say, which at first when I was reading these things and seeing the documentary, I thought Jaden was trying to like puff his chest up and be like, because he was like, I just, it wasn't even a fight. He said he said something to me. I lifted him up by his neck and through him against a wall, and that was the end of it. A lot. And I was like, I think you're trying to be like a tough guy. Yeah. And then Rod from prison was like, it wasn't a fight. He literally lifted me up.

She against a wall and that was it. So like, whoa. So after this, Rod was banished from the family. You can't go against your son. Because it just became too much. Now he was obviously pissed about this, but he decided to form his own vampire clan. Eventually, he became the leader of a group of like pseudo-gothwannabies called the vampire clan, which needs a lot of work when it comes to branding. Yeah, I feel like that's just like the vampire clam. Like you could have done better. I don't know. Worked with that. Yeah, you need to you need to branch out of that. You need to workshop that a little bit. Just so a kid named Michael Schaefer was 15 at the

time and he became the first member of Rhodes' new family. The other new family members were Charity Keesey, age 16, Dana Cooper, age 19, and Scott Anderson, age 16. Later Heather Wendorf, age 15, became a member. Rod became the vampiric leader and like a father. How old was he at this point? Do you know? I believe he was 16 at this point. Oh wow. So Dana and Heather were actually living in Eustace, Florida. They had met Rod when he was when he was in his mother had moved there for a short period of time. So that's how he knew them and he stayed in touch with them Heather who used to have a Barbie doll with a new surround its neck hanging from her backpack Was said she was charmed by him and claimed that he seemed much older than other kids because of the way he spoke Which admittedly he's very articulate. Okay. He actually sounds like a 500 year old empire

Maybe it is like to be quite honest, like he's very, I don't know, it's just something about how he talks that you believe it. If you're in that way, you're gonna believe him. So Rod Charity and Scott all planned to escape Murray. They wanted to get the hell out of there. To Florida. Rod claims the police were trying to blame a bunch of shit that was going around town on him.

Like there was an awful story again, trigger warning where in Murray, Kentucky, around this time, there was an animal shelter broken into and a lot of puppies were stolen and murdered in like a field. Jesus. And people were saying that it was vampires who did it because in that place, they're immediately going to start persecuting them. But I mean, honestly, I don't know. I can't say I don't believe that Rod wasn it because in that place they're immediately gonna start persecuting them but I mean honestly I don't know I can't say I don't believe that Rod wasn't involved in that so he's saying that the police immediately

blamed him for that that they were trying to blame a for other shit going around so he was like I gotta get out of here and it's you know his home wife was shitty yada yada yada so they planned to go to Florida now this is Rod charity in Scott planned to go to Florida. Now this is Rod Charity in Scott, planned to go to Florida, pick up Heather and Dana, and all of them were gonna go over to New Orleans because Rod knew that there's like a flourishing society of vampires there, and that it's very accepted, and they were like, let's start our new life. So that's a great plan. Which like whatever, go ahead. Bye. Do you? And so I mean, I want to go to New Orleans, not for that, but No, I'll. Just cut. So Heather Wendorf was actually an old

girlfriend of Rods at the time. She from Florida. Yes. Okay. Heather and Dana are from Florida. Okay. Sorry. No, no worry. Rod Sheridan Scott are from you. Contents. And they're going to. Yes. They're going to get Heather and Dana. Okay. So Heather was an old girlfriend of Rods. He currently at this time was dating charity. Heather lived with her parents in Houston, Florida.

Okay. Phone records showed that Heather had been contacting Rod for like several months, but they had talked a lot. And Rod claims that Heather was confiding in him and told him that she had a really bad home life. Her parents were super fucking mean and that she actually asked him to come to Florida to kill her parents. Oh shit. This is why kids are fucking scared.

Yeah, don't have kids. No, I'm just kidding. Like, like, and now I'm gonna have to be on the lookout to see if one of the girls dates a vampire who I tell her to stop dating and then she has him kill me. That's like honestly. Like that's a thing that happens. It's like actually scary happens when your kid is not even dating a vampire. Exactly.

Date just a regular old sicko human beings. It's like some dude that you don't want your kid dating and that happens on snap to all the time. Yeah, it's not cool. There's another case of that that I want to cover eventually. I can't remember the name But we'll do it whatever so at this around this time her grades had been slipping and she's she was basically having issues Just being a dick to her parents like she was just she was starting to become a bad kid and they were like maybe don't do that

And her grades were slipping and all that so she started being like my parents suck so on November 25th, 1996 So on November 25th, 1996, Rod dropped a 10 strip of golden dragonfly acid, which means absolutely fucking nothing to me. Does it mean anything to anyone else? 10 strips of acid, I would think, is a lot of eggs. Going by context clues, I'm assuming. 10 strip acid. Typically when you take acid, I think you take it from a strip.

Is that what you do? I don't even know. I've never done acid. I've never done acid. I've you take it from a strip. Is that what you do? I don't think I've never done acid I've never done acid. I've never been near someone who did acid But you don't need a lot of acid to trip fucking yes And he said it was golden dragon fly acid, which I'm assuming is some kind of like potent. I know different names of acid Oh whatever he did that and then He arrived so they all arrived in Florida 12 hours later So he was on acid and then they were driving to

Florida. He called Heather. Yeah, he called Heather and basically was like, listen, you need to decide if you're going to join our family or not. Are you going to come with us? We're in Dana. And that's when they were getting near her home, the car began to break down a bit. So they decided that they were going gonna steal one. Because if your car breaks down, you still want it. That's what you do, you don't call triple A. Now he says this is when the plans for that night began to like really form because they decided

they were gonna steal Heather's parents' Ford Explorer. Uh-oh. Which like, where are their parents? Maybe it's because I'm a parent, but like fucking kids, man. No, that sucks. No, I don't really like that. That's their car, they bought that car. Maybe it's because I'm a parent, but like fucking kids, man. No, that sucks. No, I don't really like that.

That's their car. They bought that car. They work for that car. You can just have it. The kid is fucking have it. No, that bothers me too. Go away. And it's like, ugh.

So, so they arrive at Heather's home. Heather meets them outside of her parents' home. She gets in the car with Dana and Charity and they they're like a little ways away from the house. Rodden Scott go towards the house while the girls are all saying in the car. Now you're gonna hear Heather's defense later and this part to me makes it a little unbelievable that she didn't have more to involved in this. Okay. Because why didn't she just take the keys from her own house if that was the plan? Like she didn't come out with the car keys.

She was like, oh, Rodden Scott go in and get them. Yeah, that's dumb. Why would you do that? Like why would you send two boys you don't even know, really? And to your fans house. And it would just be like less. Yeah, it doesn't make any sense.

None of it makes sense. Yeah, like I'm, it's perfect. You could easily just take your parents Just take it without the door. Yeah, it this was because I think this is around 9 p.m So yeah, like starting to turn in for the night like right so before they did this They had he rod said that hurt he and Heather had to have quote an embrace which which is his term. No, very different. Oh, his term for crossing over, which is the drinking of the blood and becoming the vapor. So Heather had to drink his blood, he had to drink hers.

Before he went inside. This was in a local cemetery. Yeah, like before he would do this, he was like, yo, I got to make you a vampire first. So because priorities for sure. I mean, and you got across those teas and dot those eyes before you go and murder. If you guys are just walking around everywhere, why don't you just hop on a fucking bus? You don't need a car. It doesn't make sense. So Rod claims that Heather was asked to leave the garage door open from outside and into the home and that she

did for them. Okay, she said that that didn't happen, but I think she was lying. Okay, this is just me. So this is around 9 p.m. Rodden Scott circled the house and looked in all the windows to see where the windows were. Naomi, when door for mother was in the shower. Enrichered her father was laying on the couch in the family room asleep. Oh, literally on the couch sleeping. Always on the couch. Yeah, don't do that. Couchers are pershitting. When you're awake and alert, they're not couch sleeping. Always on the couch. Yeah, don't do that. Don't sit there. Couches are pershitting when you're awake and alert. They're not per sleeping. No, don't sleep.

No, don't sleep on that couch. It's gonna hurt your back anyways. It is, it's gonna hurt your back. Sleep on your Casper mattress. Sleep on your Casper mattress, that we're not gonna pay for. Come on Casper. Please.

So Rod said, quote, we had sticks. Just what in sticks in our hands I didn't know how big her father was and I was slightly worried about that and I knew a grown man could smash me to the ground without a second thought So obviously this is just a steal a car, right? Yeah, why are you already thinking about that? Like he's already this none of it makes he's already bringing a weapon into the house And you're just trying to steal a car again Why wouldn't I have to just take the keys herself and walk out of this house? It doesn't make sense So Rod and Scott entered the garage area would their sticks with their sticks and then according to him

He said we realized we needed a bigger weapon because obviously So in Rod's words quote I see an axe. I'm oh, there's an axe It's been done before chainsaw that's too loud that's when I found a crowbar it was something I knew I could swap somebody away with and run if I had to so he grabs the crowbar okay I love that he's like that's been done before I want to be different yeah when I murder these people not when I steal their fucking I steal their car like that is No, it doesn't make any sense So I'm getting angry. I'm getting riled So then they entered the home from an old washroom because I was all open because Heather left it open

They walked straight past the father lying asleep on the couch According to rod the TV was cranked super high so he didn't Sturr hear them That'd be me. When he did start to wake up a bit, Rod hit him in the temple with the crowbar and knocked him out cold. Jesus. Instead of just going about his business, he then decided that he would be in trouble if he woke up, so he just quote, beat him until he died. What?

Seems justified, right? What? Seems justified, right? He then amended that story shortly after in the same conversation where he's talking about the same interview that I saw where he said, well, he wouldn't stop breathing. So I took the bottom of the crowbar and stabbed him in the chest at the end. Oh my God. So he literally took the crowbar and beat him in the head until he thought he was dead. Then he wouldn't stop breathing. So he said he took the crowbar and stabbed him in the chest. Jesus! And according to Rob, he said he had no idea how many times he hit him.

Police related a term and it was more than 20 times. Oh my god. He was left soaking in his own blood. His face was completely unrecognizable and there was a gaping hole in his head. Holy shit! There's autopsy photos of these poor people and crime scene photos in there horrific. How do you do that? These poor people.

So, the other member who came with him, Scott, you know, the dude that's with him was shocked according to Rob. Rob, sorry. He said, quote, he stood frozen, stalked still. He was scared to Rob. Rob, sorry. He said, quote, he stood frozen, stalk still. He was scared to death. He'd never seen anything like that. Never seen a death. Never seen even really any extreme violence. He was stunned. Now, yeah, I'm sure he was stunned by that, but for him to say he's never seen extreme violence is not true because Scott's father was an abuse of alcoholic who beat his mother. Oh, so that's the home he came from. That's awful. So I'm sure he did see extreme violence. violence is not true because Scott's father was an abuse of alcoholic who beat his mother. Oh, so that's the home he came from.

That's awful. So I'm sure he did see extreme violence, not like that, I guess, but still. Now this is when Rodd said they performed a death dance and gleefully danced around Richard's slaughtered body on the couch. What the fuck is a death dance? According to Rodd, he said, quote, in a childish manner, Scott and I ambitiously danced around his body before he was dead. What is ambitious dancing? Like what? And also if Scott is so shocked, why is he

ambitiously dancing? Exactly. Now, Rod, as to how he felt about this, Rod said, just strangely enough, it was a rush, a teenager's rush, just to know that he was asleep and did not know that we held his fate in our hands. Oh, go fuck yourself, buddy. Right? Gross. Now, after he's done this, they went into the parents bedroom and look for the car keys. They couldn't find them initially, where Heather said they were. Now, this is when Heather's

mother Naomi came into the kitchen, area holding a cup of coffee and wearing a robe from the shower. She was just coming out of the shower. Rod says that she immediately started to lunge at him and threw her hot coffee at him. What's good for her? Well, she probably thought he was an intruder because she doesn't know who the fuck he is.

He isn't an intruder. Well, exactly. That's exactly it. So she's like, get the fuck out of my house. So she then clawed his face and grabbed his wrists. That's when he took the straight end of the crowbar and started in his words, quote, bashing the back of her head. Oh my God.

He said the entire time she was holding on to him and her nails were embedded in his face. And he said, quote, until she let go, I was going to beat the fuck out of her. Oh my god. Yeah. So he's a good guy. He then went back into the bedroom and he says quote, so I grabbed a pearl necklace off the stand that belonged to her mother. I grabbed a hunting knife that was in the drawer from her father.

I found the keys in the dish on the drawer. I grabbed Scott and we ran out the door. So this was just a go-to car race. Yeah, this was just a thrill kill. Now, Heather's 17 year old sister Jennifer came home from work soon after to find her parents. Oh my God. She immediately called the police, obviously. Detective Al Goosey now retired But he was then the lead investigator on the case. He was on the Lake County Sheriff's He was part of the Laffes Lake County Sheriff's office and he was the first one on the scene

He said quote, I've never seen anything worse. It was very gruesome situation. That was probably the worst case I have or will ever have Geez now they took off in the Ford Explorer that they stole and there was a nationwide ban hunt at this point. So they were trying to take long like out of the way routes to New Orleans where they were headed. Rod says they dumped the murder weapon and all the evidence they could think of in the Mississippi River. Then he took his bloody clothes off at a gas station. In between Eustace and Baton Rouge Louisiana, where they eventually were arrested. Oh wow. They were actually pulled over by police five times, according to Rod. Now

how could they be stopped five times and not be arrested? Rod thinks they got away with it because in his words they were expecting a teenage cult-looking psychopath and instead I was speaking to them with every courtesy. I already had my story set up. I already told the others were college students from Texas or Iowa. Wow. So he was just being very like... Why couldn't he pick between Texas and Iowa? I don't really know. Maybe depending on where they were. Oh, I don't know. But yeah it's like those are weird places. Yeah, right.

We are from Texas or Iowa. I'm not sure. I have an equitability. When they ended up reaching Baton Rouge, Rod's girlfriend Charity called her family, and they called the police. They, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they and her parents called the police. They're like, my parents ran away. And so, uh, because they're pretty far from home now. But so the police were able to trace the number to a motel where all five

of them were arrested just three days after the murders on Thanksgiving day. Wow. Also at that, young, how do you fucking have money to, They really did they probably well they stole stuff from the Yeah, and who knows if they stole money there too But after being arrested for double homicide in a police surveillance video Rod and charity can be seen passionately making out in their holding cell before being extradited back to Florida. What? Yeah, that's what they were super remorseful, just so you know. Now, Rod immediately confessed.

He told, he said, I murdered them on my own. Wow. I did it. And he said he actually wanted his followers to go free. Oh, well. Like he's a special kind of fucked up. Yeah. Now, detectives did finally

get charity to admit she knew of the plan to kill Heather's parents. So it was premeditated. So it was premeditated. But she claimed she tried to persuade Rod and Scott not to do it. Well yeah of course she'd get a little ass on a jail. Dana Cooper told the police the same exact thing. Now Scott admits his role in the killing and said quote, I was going to go for the father and he was going to go for the mother. But when I saw him make the first blow, I just couldn't. Wow. So Heather is still, I don't know. I want to hear what people think about Heather. Maybe she's a little bitch. She

suspect to me. She said to police on camera and interrogation. I remember telling him flat out, don't even go near my parents because he asked me not too long ago if I wanted my parents dead or alive, and I told him straight out, I want them alive. When we steal the car. And none of it's exactly the story doesn't make sense because you didn't know that your car was gonna break down. Exactly. And it's like if you, if this whole thing was to steal a car or something like. And it's like, if you, if this whole thing was to steal a car or something like that, it's like, first of all, this kid has already asked you,

do you want your parents dead? Why are you letting him into your house without with your parents? He's already proven that he has a fucked up mindset. Yeah. And it's like, so I don't know. I don't believe that you were just like, no, I think this whole thing was.

No, I want him alive. Like even if you've said it in passing, you've said't know. I don't believe that you were just like, no, I think this whole thing was spitting. No, I want them alive. Like, even if you said it in passing, you've said it to the wrong person. Like, yeah. Like, come on. So Dana kind of backs Heather up. She says Heather didn't even know Rod had murdered her parents until they were on their way

to New Orleans. And according to her, she said, quote, charity told her right as we were getting ready to leave Florida. While we were basically leaving the county, she started freaking out really bad. So, to me, that could indicate that no, she didn't know, or it could indicate that it suddenly was right. It hit her, yeah. That all of a sudden, or she was acting.

Yeah, shit. I don't know much about that. Because maybe she wanted to keep her own shit together so she can say later that she had no idea. Like, we'll answer it out. And Rod isn't gonna throw her under the bus because Rod is apparently not throwing any of the bus. He's just saying it was him.

That's so bizarre. So I think it might have been she knew about it. Maybe she didn't believe he'd actually do it. Maybe this was more of that like fantasy world kind of thing. Yeah. And maybe when she was told that it happened, it hit her that it was real. And she knew it was gonna happen, but she fully understand the consequences of the fact that her parents were fucking dead. Exactly. So there's that. Wow. So how about sentencing? So Heather denies hating or being mistreated by her parents at all.

Oh, which again seems suspect. Yeah, no, that definitely does. So it's like at least say that you were like a bitchy little teenager who didn't like your parents at the time. Yeah, exactly. Like all of us fucking know. And believe that you weren't mad at your parents at some point. Exactly. So she was ultimately exonerated by a grand jury.

Oh wow. Completely. That's wild. She was, they said she was not aware of the plan to murder her bomb of dad, and she was never charged for anything. Wow. Let go immediately.

I'm surprised by that. Al Guca, the one believed detective on the case, said he remembers interviewing Heather days after her parents were killed. And he said he asked her just how many vampires are in use to Florida. And he says that he says and she just sat back, folded her arms and said you'd be surprised. To me that doesn't seem like somebody who just lost. This morning the death of their parents.

And again I'm not, I always say I never want to judge how people react to things because we all react to things differently. And that young in your parents are really moving with your arms crossed and being like, you'd be surprised. You don't seem like you're wrapped up in this awful tragedy that you got yourself involved in. Like you seem like you're being pretty cocky. Well, that's a thing.

It's like very cocky. Yeah. and she later said she actually edited her own Wikipedia page because she said it was lying about her being involved so she's like actively trying to get rid of any. Well why are you looking at your own Wikipedia page? Now Charity Kise and Dana Cooper each pled guilty to being principles to third-degree murder, armed burglary and principles to armed robbery. Charity was sentenced to 10 and a half years. Wow. Well, Dana got 17 and a half years. Why did Dana get more? I'm not really sure. Was she older? Um, she might have been. Maybe that,

maybe H has something to do with it? Well, H has a lot to do with it later. Dana was was released from Florida's Panhandle Prison in 2011 and charity was released in 2006. So did they so they live in their lives? But did they serve full sentences? No, I don't think they serve the full sentence. But they served like a good amount of time. Yeah, they served a good amount of time, I guess, for, but I don't know. There I don't know. Scott Anderson put guilty to being a principal, the first degree murder and was sentenced to life without parole. Wow! Rod Farrell was sentenced to death. Oh shit. I think your family failed you.

I think society failed you. But I also am here to tell you in the considered judgment of this court. I troubled and disturbed you. Cannot serve as an excuse for cold blood and premeditated murder. The sentence was later commuted to life without parole because Rod was just 16 at the time and still a juvenile when he committed the murders.

The US Supreme Court declared life without parole unconstitutional for juveniles, and in 2015 the state Supreme Court ruled all juvenile killers with automatic life sentences must be recentenced. So did he? So you got recentenced then? Yeah, so... well he's in the process of being recentenced. Um... him and Scott. Is it still possible to get life though if your crime was bad enough? I think it, yeah, I'm pretty sure it is now. They just need you to take a second one out of it.

But it also means, unfortunately, Rod also got now one of the top criminal defense attorneys in the state assigned to him. Oh, damn. How did that happen? His name is Terence Leniman of Miami. And it basically means that after only a little more than 20, like over 20 years in prison, Rod could be free to buy.

Like that day. Yeah, like he, and he knows this. He knows he could do he could end up serving like time served. And eventually because I did hear that they were supposed to do these sentencing. I believe last year or this year in March and they kept getting pushed back. And it was really hard. I've been looking up like trying to find updates on it. So so far nothing's been happening with it So they're both still so they're still both still in prison and neither one of them have been resentanced as far as I'm I can tell That is coming up though. They are gonna get a resentance hearing and if he if they come in there and they decide you can

Time served he can walk out of there that day. Wow. So Rod Farrell, who beat two elderly people to death for literally no reason at all. So does he express any kind of remorse or anything like that now? No. Or is he just like, yeah, so that happened? No. He doesn't at all. And actually, he knows that he could get out soon.

And according to him, quote, I have a woman. I have a job waiting on me, I even have a cat and dog waiting. What? Like, fuck yourself. Also, who would hire him? He also says that nothing could have stopped this, and if it wasn't the Wendorf's, then it probably would have been someone else and probably more people. So if he gets out, he's probably going to kill more people. Probably. He said, quote, when I killed those people, I felt a rush. I felt I was a god. But I guess I was a god, if I was a god,

I wouldn't be here today now, would I? That's scary, that he could get out. And it's funny. They need to look at those statements before they resentance him. When you wonder if like his followers were just like, really shocked to see that he got caught in sentence, because he's supposed to be a 500 year old vampire.

Like yeah, I'm sure they were probably like like, Ross, and he gonna get away out of it. Why didn't she just explode into a thousand bats and get out of here? Like, you know, like they were probably like shit. Maybe this is it for realsies. This is like real like real life. Like he's, and I'm sure he thought that.

Maybe he thought he could just explode into a thousand bats and leave Yeah, I don't know. It's gotta be a it's a harsh reality when you realize you can't do that I wish I could do that sometimes like it but I'm in awkward social It's situations just burst into bats and then it's like bye and then just be Blossom would be like what are you talking about? I think you're insane. I really like listen to what you're saying You're like come on come on really? But that's gonna be a harsh reality

when all of a sudden you're like, oh, I'm not a 500 year old vampire who can get out of this. Well, maybe he still thinks he's a 500 year old vampire, but there's no way that he does to this day. But he can get out. Well, he still must be older now. No, he's not older.

What? He's just, he stopped, stopped dating. Oh, well, yeah, that happens, you know I've heard you like he must be older now 20 years like he must be older. Well, I mean I guess I was wrong No, he's still six me. His wonderful mother Move to Florida to be close with him. So now that he's behind bars. She's being a good guy I'm gonna take care of you. She visits them every week

And she says rod blows are a kiss every time she leaves so cute What? Rod said and asked for the murders when you talk to Rod now. He says ah They don't really cross my mind much because it's like any other thing. I've done in my life. It's happened. It's over. Oh You know as for Heather in case you wanted know, Heather moved to North Carolina and tried going by the name Zoe for a bit, but people were like, now your Heather went or like you're that girl. Yeah.

And, no, a lot of people think she had a lot to do with it. I think she does. So her family also didn't want anything to do with her after this. So she- Imagine being her sister. She was placed in foster care, like a foster with a foster family after the murders, because nobody in her family would take her.

I would be able to foster her. Oh, I would not want her anywhere near her. I'd be like, you're gonna get killed. And honestly, according to her in an interview I read, her sister forgives and her sister in her talk, and I'm like, fuck you. If that was me, I'd be like literally never. Like you took my parents. Yes, it's her fault. Yeah. Whether she did it by your own hand or not,

it's your fault. You brought the student into our lives. Wow, that's so fun. So, but now she's married and she's an artist and you can google her Heather Wendorf and you can find. I think it's Heather Wendorf Kelly now actually. Oh. Might be. I might be wrong, but I think that's it. I have another wonder of Kelly now, actually. I might be wrong, but I think that's it. And I think she does like art exhibitions and stuff. Damn. Yeah. And her art.

Yeah. Rod is kind of like an angstier version of Edmund Kemper, where he likes to talk. And he likes to talk about, you know, how he doesn't give a shit, and how, that's nice. It didn't bother him to do that, and how he felt great about it, and all that good stuff, so he has like zero or more. Now I'm just Satan himself, so not that I really care. I had decided to take the, uh, darker path, the evil path.

I found that more exciting. If it wouldn't have been the one dwarfs, at the rate I was going, it would have been somebody, if not more people. And apparently, now I posted photos online. I'll post some more because it just evolved, evolved the people involved on the Instagram. But when this happened, he had like long, like really long black hair.

Of course. That was like shaved on one side and all that good stuff. And now he's like straight up bald and I'm like, huh. So being a 500 year old vampire could have stopped the barbeur. Yeah, like he seems, seems like you're a mortal., does he think he's immortal? I don't know. I feel like when you think you're 500 years old, you're like, I think I'm, I'm gonna go the distance. Like, if you get to 500, you're close. I don't think I would want to get to 500. I'll get to 500 if it means like, if I can,

like, maintain my, you know, know autonomy that's like the age of Adeline. Sure. I don't want to do that. I mean if everybody else can be 500 with me. Yeah. Everybody that she was like really old. Yeah. I got to want like really young and like everybody else died. Yeah. That's not cool. Yeah. And like the government was like hmm like on on her butt about it because like you know the government will capture you if you know the government when you're in a mortal Yeah, you know how that goes so hard Life for immortals. It is fucking government But yeah, so that's the the Wendorf murders the vampire cult murders and

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