Morbid - Episode 22: Joshua Ward House/ Giles Corey with special guests The Right Wrong Turn Podcast

Episode Date: October 11, 2018

Guys! We have guests! Tonight we took look into just a corner of Salem's witchy history and chatted with two of our podfam members, Tyler and Mason from The Right Wrong Turn Podcast. Check it out and if you downloaded the first version of this that I posted, I apologize for the audio mess. This one is better, I promise. Enjoy, weirdos! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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So. And a few other people. That's me. Wow. You're a pew. We're here. And combined, we make a taste of, or, myler. Or like, myler. Today we have myler on hot cast.

Yeah, today we have one special hybrid guest named my, oh good. It's our person. it's our person one five guys. It's our person People out there, dude, are there people coming to get him? They're actually gonna take us away and steal us. Oh, no, no well, if somebody do an episode and yeah, so we just pray in that door and we just stop talking That's why. Oh, okay. We got kids. We can cover a true crime. Yeah.

You like a lot. Whoa. That's a perfect crime. That's one of those videos. That's a nice. Except, you know, the culprits because they don't have masks. Right there. You've got a camera.

They're not at you. Speaking of masks, do you know what do you know ski masks, right, with the holes in the mouth? Yeah. I found out what the actual technical name of those are today. Oh, whatever. They're called Bala Klovas. I like that. Really?

Yeah, Arctic Monkeys has a song about it and I googled what it was and I love Arctic Monkeys. Oh, Arctic Monkeys are the shit. You know, I like Arctic Monkeys, but I was a little disappointed by the new album That might be like Controversial I just like I mean not that I don't like um, oh is it David Bowie that they remind me? Yeah, love me some David Bowie. It's not that I don't like David Bowie. It's just that I was expecting Arctic Monkeys and then I got David Bowie So it's like taking like a what you think is like a drink of like water and then actually

getting like, Zonka. P. Oh, or vodka. I've never had vodka before, but yeah, sure. It would be different. It would be different to you. Remember when I was like, Zonka, and then it happened?

Yeah. That happened to me at Christmas when I was like five years old. She, maybe I just had like a surprise memory of him to life. And that's why I was like five years old. Oh. She, maybe I just had like a suppressed memory of them to life. That's why I'm back in Paris. She took a chunk of what she thought was water. And the face this girl made, I can't even describe it. It was amazing. Maybe that's why I'm an op-ed.

Wow. Just kidding. Totally kidding. It was a slow spider life. It was. I just wanted to do, yeah. They're scared real. We tried slow spiral ride. It was. I have 22, you know.

They're scared of the rail. We tried. We tried. Oh. It's so joking. We're not putting that in. She's like, well, I didn't put that in. We're actually the right wrong turn.

Oh, yeah. We should probably let you know. Oh, yeah. So this is not hard. We're not just some random guys. We do not just have a hybrid beast on the other end named Miler. This is the right wrong turn podcast who is joining us tonight and we're so excited. We're doing a collab. We're excited. It's like a lab, but co-la... We're sharing a lab.

We're sharing a lab right now. Wait, I split up the words and just put them back together. Different way. I'm really good at it. It's our first collab guys. Bare with us. I love that sauce so much. We're figuring this out. But anyway, I'm Mason from the right wrong turn.

And I'm Tyler. Yes, that's me. I don't know why I raised my hand. I'm Mason from the right wrong turn. And I'm Tyler. Yes, that's me. I don't know why I raised my hand. I don't know. I wanted to point that out, that he raised his hand. What is that? That's not what they're saying. That's Tyler.

That's Tyler. That one right there. It's a thought. OK, so question. Back to our vodka talk. What does vodka taste like? Because I have no idea what a taste like Crushed dreams and I don't know if you've ever drank gasoline, but that's pretty much

Oh battery acid mixed with gasoline for a second. You're like, oh, okay It's like what gasoline smells like that's what it tastes. Yeah. Yeah. Oh really? Yeah, I like the smell of gasoline I love the smell of gasoline That right I'm like I don't know if I can taste like high school And vodka really I can see I'm high school. I know my high school tastes like fucking Malibu rum as well. Oh my god. It does.

I'm not going to get many opportunities to take water breaks, am I? You can do last bit takes. Oh, I'm trying so hard not to because my computer is right in front of me. Actually my computer is like 400 years old and I'm just looking for a reason to get rid of it. Let's be sure it next week. People will laugh right on this week. Let's spit on it next week. Let's spit on it this week. I won't this week. What kind of computer do you have? I have like a super old MacBook. The first one ever. Like the chunky one. The really chunky one. Like it's like SDC and Cyclepedia I think about. Yeah. Oh my gosh. Yeah. That's doing its thing though. That's wild. It's like 10 years old.

It's doing its thing. Wow. I'm looking at it right now. I'm like girl, you're okay. You're gonna be fine Appreciate your world on the chav I appreciate it. It's slow, but it does what I needed to do Sometimes most of the time That sounds like you actually says a lot like Tyler You see we've discovered that we are essentially like the male female versions of each other. Yes. And if you'd like to hear more about Galicia to do the right wrong turns up, it's in a week or so. So if you like us, which I hope you do because you're listening to us right now, go listen

to the male version of us. And you'll love it. Shameless points. So yeah. Honestly though, bear with me. It's kind of like a cult because like everyone must be part of the cult because it's like an inside joke. Oh, it is super neat club that I'm I thought one time Charlie Nansen.

He did. And then he followed through. You know who would have followed Charlie Vincent this girl right here. Ash Oh, oh, yes, and wait Tyler would have followed Jim Jones I would have actually it's funny because Jim Jones's church went through disciples of Christ Which is actually the church that I go to now? What would like you have a connection. Yeah.

Already. I mean, I only read Jim Jones. But Jim Jones also walked very far away from the church. A little bit. Yeah, just a tiny bit. Slightly. Oh, yeah, yeah, just a little bit. Honestly, not even that much.

I'm not really a big fan of the lead, so I feel like I wouldn't have followed him. Actually, actually it wasn't really that much. It was the Jada version. If I already don't, like, really wouldn't like slavery. Probably not. Well, there goes that sponsor. Oh, that's a good chance. I don't know if they sponsor much of anything now at least. No, you're already following Jonathan.

You're already on the BW bus. I've been on the bus. Trippin' on acid. Hell yeah. It wasn't Helter's Skelter because they spelt it wrong. It was like Helter's Skelter. Or according to these two gals, it's Helter's Skelter. In fact, right now we are Helter's Skeltering up here.

Yeah, it's a top. It's a topers well throwing up here. Yeah, it is hot. It is hot. And we're like this weird, actually top thing. Yeah, it's not great. It's not conducive. And I still like everyone I worked with today, so. Luckily I didn't work today because if I smoke that, I don't want everyone to work with. Never. Nice. I just feel like old body parts. Old body parts? You know, body parts. A body parts.

Oh, some guetz of body parts. It was an old body part. A daycare. Like, not a fresh one. What is this? You smell like a fresh body part. Oh, that's my favorite smell of candle. Or candle.

I think I'm very sent in here. I would attract you. I would attract you. I would attract you. The smell of autumn. I would attract you. I would attract you. I would attract you.

I would attract you. I would attract you. I would attract you. I would attract you. I would attract you. I would attract you. Oh, that's my favorite smell of candle or candle. I'm very sent in for you. I'm a trash person. The smell of autumn. The smell of autumn. The new is Halloween scent. Oh, yes, of course.

I feel like those are the same things. Oh, man. I cannot. All right, so without further ado, what do we do? Oh, should I give him some? Oh yeah, maybe we should do this. So I thought it would be fun because we have two people on here who are not native to Massachusetts.

Here's a hint, it's not Ash at myself. That's true. We have a bunch of assholes. We are super massholes. So my favorite, we would just relish in our mass foolishness and we would do something from good old Salem mess cheeses. Yeah, yeah, because all kinds of weird shit happens there.

I'm excited. Can I admit something that's going to get me a whole bunch of fucking hate? No, I know what you're going to say. I'm never going to say a little. Oh, I have an idea. Well something that's gonna get me the whole bunch of fucking hate. No, I know what you're gonna say. I'm never gonna say all of that. Oh, I have an idea. Well, that exists for you. I'm taking it to your own approximately the whole life.

I'm taking away your mass whole card. Well, actually, I've been, uh-oh. Is the six flags in Salem? Is that? Nope, nope. Is it through Salem? Nope.

No. You try, you try. Right, I guess I'm sad. Unless you've gone to the house of seven gables, I'm gone to that old barrel ground, you haven't gone to Salem. Well, I want to. I'm kind of a witch.

You're not a true witch until you've been to Salem. So, tonight, I'm going to give a little bit of a journey into the Joshua Ward house. Oh, I heard you said douche. No, he is not. I heard someone involved in this. Like I heard Joshua was a real douche. You mean every person that was accusing people of a noish? Yeah, a bunch of doucheers.

Little doucheers. And we're also, so this is going to be about the house, but we're going to go into like Giles' Corey a little bit. Do I guys adouche? No. Girl, are you from Massachusetts? No, that's wonderful.

I think I'll be back. You are. She was born in Hawaii, that's true. Oh, wow. That's awesome. That's awesome. That's awesome. Like kind of way out there.

Yeah, you really like. I have to go out there. I have to go out there. Yeah, you like. I have a way out there. That's for getting away out there. So we are going to start our tale on Washington Street in Salem and on Washington's seat, on Washington Street. There is the un-washing street. Exactly. It's Dr. Zeus. This. We're switching up the whole thing.

So, on Washington Street in Salem, right now, there's a large brick mansion. This mansion was owned by a wealthy merchant in Sea Captain by the name of... Great Segway. Joshua Ward. Not a douche. Crazy, I know So, he built this home in 1784 In fun little fact, George Washington stayed there while visiting

Wow, that reminds me of Oh, the other 1789 So that's pretty rad Yeah, whenever Abraham Lincoln stayed there Yeah, in Illinois Yeah, wow, that's kind of crazy That is kind of weird Yeah, it Abraham Lincoln stayed there, and Illinois, yeah, wow, that's kind of crazy. That is kind of weird. It's like, yeah, it's like,

it's like President just like, he like have sleepovers. I'm really nervous. That's kind of fun. So it's like President's like to keep in touch with important people in the country. All right, that's really weird. George Washington probably won't stay in your house.

Okay. Because he did. Well, he stayed in this house back in 1789. Connecting? Probably why it's called Washington Street. Makes sense. I get it. Yeah, see.

And it was called the Washington Hotel at some point. And that was because you stayed there. Because they were like, look, he stayed here once. That's valid. I'm saying this was like three hours. Yeah. He walked through here once. He walked through here once. And, valid. I'm staying this one for like three hours. Yeah, great. Like he walked through here once. He walked through this place once.

And totally gone. Like he threw a used tissue on the floor once. It was awesome. And... So... And actually in the windows of this house for a while, they had a bust of George Washington because again, they're like really banking on this whole George Washington state here But they had to remove it because humans are dumb and they kept walking by and thinking they were seeing the ghost of George Washington and freaking the fuck out

That's my favorite thing in my whole life Right? That's the way I'm to take it out of the window You know I would be one of those guys that was like, oh George! George, you're like, I swear! I know I saw George! 100%. Well, uh, Ward, so he built this, he built this beautiful brick mansion. It's really pretty, it's huge. You totally want to live there if you look at it, but you don't. Oh. Because. And here's why.

Is it haunted? A little bit. Oh, her. He built this house on the remaining foundation of a home that once stood on the property and this home that once stood on the property has a little bit of a bleak past. Oh. The mansion sits on the exact spot where the residents of Sheriff George, the strangler, Corwin used to be. You know why, he's like a fun guy. I would allow my kids through a party animal to be with me. Right, he sounds like a babysitter. Yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly.

Sounds totally harmless. Totally harmless. He's just chilling as well. Yeah, and you know what's nice? What's that? This was not only his home, it was also used as a jail and his personal torture chamber. Oh, so like best place to build a new property?

Yeah, he seems fine. Ooh, she's really strange on the land. Yes, it's free real estate. Oh my god. And it's so not good. I mean, I don't see anything wrong yet. No, I feel like this is fine. Oh yeah, no, this is fine.

Completely bright following. This is great. Completely fine. Everything is fine. Everything is fine. Completely fine. And obviously, one does not get the nickname the Strangler because you're a dude who likes to spread peace and love all over. In fact, Corwin happened to be one of the most evil sadistic interrogators in which slashed warlock killers

in the history of Salem. So this guy is the douche. Yeah, he's a bad dude. Gators and witch slash warlock killers in the history of Salem. Oh Yeah, he's a bad dude. So he was like a straggler and got away with it because like these people are witches Exactly. Oh, that's like almost even worse. Oh Yeah, he was like he was like a straight-up monster and he just happened to live in a time where it was totally legal for him Yeah, he was the worst. And he was sheriff. That's the only thing.

And he just was up like like dog the bounty hunter. Exactly. With the bullet and everything on. We are fucking on. We love dog bounty hunter. We literally talked about it on a previous episode. We did. I sang the theme song, but I think you edited it out.

I did. Whatever. And I'll do it again. The listeners have a right to know. So just picture that. Oh, okay. He's great. He's known for like harmony.

But he looked like dog to bounty hunter. All right. So I think let's just go with that. But like a curly. Way back in like the 1600s. A curly, holy moly. But like a curly one. Way back in like the 1600s. The curly one. Yeah, yeah. That was cool. That was cool in the 1600s.

Oh, no. And it's like peroxide blonde. It's like blonde, doesn't it? I'm gonna start calling my hair. He was truly ahead of his time. He was. He's so ahead of his time. And everyone's wondering, like, where did you get

those sunglasses at? Wait, what are sunglasses? What are Glasses what is the sun? Why is that why is that on your face? Why didn't you ever wear them like they always had a forehead? And he's like don't worry you'll understand they will come a time I will understand maybe not now, but I will be relevant come a time. Maybe not now, but I will be relevant. So good old George was born February 26, 1666. Oh honey. 666. Oh, no. Just saying. I mean, I'm not saying, but I'm saying. Are you saying? I'm saying. I'm saying. It sounds like it sounds to me like you're saying. Are you saying?

I might be saying. Oh, man. I might be saying. You're saying, all right. She's saying. I might be saying. There's a lot of saying. Say it just lost all of me.

It really is. So he, not a lot was known about his childhood because, you know, like the 1600s, that she was kind of. Yeah. After a lot down. Yeah. But I'm going to assume it was not like great. That's just me Yeah, you become that you're probably not having a great job with

So he was the grandson of John Winthrop the younger who was the governor of Connecticut and his wife Lydia Gendini Gendini Whatever she's dead. We don't change any She was the daughter of Bartholomew Gedney, one of the magistrates involved in the witch trials. Of course his name is Bartholomew. Of course it was. It couldn't be anything. I'd expect nothing less. I'm maybe my first born Bartholomew. I'm gonna work on saying it at the meantime. You gotta say it right once before you wanted to be a kid. Barthie Prasad. Or further, further.

Or a performer. Or a performer. Or a performer. Oh, a little performer. Or performer. Or performer. It's a shame. I don't know.

Don't worry about it. It's like burr on those. It's whatever you want it to be. It's really good. So George became the high sheriff, not just the sheriff, the high sheriff. Oh wow, okay. Of Essex County Massachusetts during the witch trials. So between 1692 and 1693, he signed warrants for the arrest and execution of those condemned

of witchcraft. So Corwin was also responsible for choosing the execution site in Salem for the 19 innocent people that he fucking hanged His nickname not good not good. Did he choose what? He's home. Yeah, did he choose this home? To execute the house like what? Is it what you're wrong there? No, he didn't well he didn't hang them all at his house He hung them in like gallows help. He just tortured them in his house Yeah, yeah, he didn't kill people in the house come on. I know you're actually that's crazy

Actually, he did kill people in the so okay, oh He didn't hang but he didn't hang people in the so There's a difference That makes it better it totally It's no it's not a she wasn't like a total monster. It wasn't hanging people in the show. So I don't know if you guys are wondering where the nickname the Strangler came from. You guys wondering? This boy is a little bit. That guy's wondering. Alright. This was due. That guy over there. That guy is one of the ingredients.

This was due to the fact that he developed some cruel methods for getting quote unquote witches to admit their allegiance to Satan. So Tom, one of these was really, really fun, totally, totally fine. It's not gonna terrify you at all. Oh, okay. It included... It's like a break from terrify. We are. This is not as bad as the toy box killer. I am so ready to know, sitting. I'm so ready to not be terrified at all right now. Like, that's how, that's how ready I am. Ready, you're ready.

So he used to tie the neck of the accused to their ankles until a stream of blood exploded out of their nose. He would just tighten it slowly. Oh my gosh, you told me to put on my non-surprise cap and it's been completely blown off. And then I gave you some blood exploding out of the nose. Just to recap, a tide their neck to their ankles and then he would just slowly pull pull it until he like fucked them up so much that blood just exploded out of the nose.

And that was what he thinks. And you know what, when the blood exploded out, he was like, that's a good day's work. I'm done. Sounds like a sick heartache. Yeah, he was like, you know what, end up. Wow, he's clocking out for the day. Oh, just a thought. So basically it was like the most slow and torturous strangulation ever. And it goes without saying, but like, they definitely accidentally made a say to Sheriff.

Like, I think we can all agree. Yeah. So, he just hate it when that happens. That's the worst. That is the worst when you're like shit. Oh, shut up. You did it again. We did it again.

Maybe next time. Next time we'll get it right. Few people have to die, but you know, that's fine. There's always next year. There is. There's always next. Not for those people, but there's next year for us. So on September 16, 1692, he was ordered by the Court of Oyer and Terminer to preside over the interrogation by torture of one Giles Corey, who was pressed to death for refusing to stand trial for witchcraft. Define you press that to that. Oh, don't you worry. I'm gonna get in there

You think I'm just gonna fly over that I'm gonna bring you into it. So this has to be I'm gonna press you This is when we need the video for the podcast. Oh, yes,. Yeah, so we'll wait till next time to do it to you. Oh, okay. I'll just explain it to you. So, Giles Corey was Corey Wins last interrogation and execution, and it may be the one that definitely had the most lasting effect. You went out with the bank.

He sure did. He sure did. So, we're going to get into Giles Cori now. So Giles Cori was pressed to death on September 19th, 1692 in Salem Village, again, for refusing to go to trial or enter any plea for witchcraft accusations. So often people accused Wood were fused to enter a plea at all, and they refer to this as standing silent or standing mute and it's important to note that this wasn't always purely out of pride or stubborn or just like being a badass. Back then a convicted person forfeited all their

property once they were convicted. So his if he had entered a plea he wasn't gonna be found innocent because like which trials and sale and they're like you're all witches deal Let's deal with it. So he knew that if he made any plea in one to trial, his heirs were going to receive nothing to inherit because the government would just seize his estate. So by refusing to plead and dying under torture instead, they would protect their heirs. So it's like kind of selfless and like sad. You're like, shit.

But when this refusal to plea happened, English law implemented what was known as, and this is French and I did not take French. So part in me, part in my French. Part in law. Oh. Did you take French? You didn't take French.

No, but not toxic. Because I'm gonna butcher this. Let me see. Yeah, you look at it. I don't want to be the dumb American. I'm for it to eat a durb. Yeah, that. It's a French phrase. You pretentious Americans. We are such pretentious Americans. I would swear too much. So this French phrase means strong and hard punishment. Oh good.

When, which sounds fine, right? Oh yeah. Totally. So when Giles Corey stood silent and refused to stand trial with a plea, this strong and silent thing came into play and his strong and hard punishment was pressing. Well, if I'm on trial and then it turns out that I'm going to get a strong and hard punishment from a guy named the Strangler. I think I might just start crying right there. Oh no.

You can be like, you know what? You know what? And I'd be like, fuck my ears. I'm entering a plea. I'm not getting pressed to death for your ass. So I was gonna say in history class we've probably all heard this particular story but Ash didn't know what Kyle's Corey was so. No I heard it I remember it now. I know at least in Massachusetts we need to think about like my whole high school experience and the things that I remember and the things that I don't. That's true, I need to not expect that.

You know, actually, I can't say that I've ever heard of it either. So maybe it might be a Massachusetts thing. I think it would be a little bit weird about it. I just have, I forget everything. I'd only learned about it from other podcasts. I didn't, we learned a lot about Missouri's stuff, but there's nothing we didn't know. Yeah, right. Which trial, so to say anything like that, Missouri.

I mean, we learned about that. You missed out. We didn't know the crucible. Yeah, that was the crucible look. Yeah, that's the look of the other. That's Salem Witch Child. Yeah. What's up?

She's a movie. It wasn't just having a moment. So you didn't go to like, you didn't go to the book, you were like that movie. You watched that movie at night, which is like a real event. Yeah, the movie was great. It was good. Yeah, so that's what I'm the same thing. The book was I.

It's like John Proctor, I think. He's in the story. Yeah, so he's in the story. So we're bringing it all back. My He's in the store, dude. Yeah, so he's in the store. Look at the store. So we're bringing it all back. My favorite place in the book was Goody Good, just because I can remember that name so well.

Anyway. Oh yeah. Yeah, that's my little bit to add to the conversation. I feel like I liked that. That was neat. I love it. So I guess it's a Massachusetts thing, really. That we heard about this because we went there and chit.

So it's important to know, like you asked, what the torture of pressing entailed. Tell us. So we did a torture episode, but we did not touch upon this particular method of torture. Pressing is pretty brutal. Sounds it. The executioners would tie the stripped naked victim down on the ground.

Like I'd be naked. You always have to be naked. That's just like every torture. They're like no matter what it is, they'll just take it. Take his clothes off. Look what he's doing here. Casual. Casual naked.

How do you want to be? He's going to be daisy. Always casually naked. And you are laid down on the ground on your back. I want to be. You'll be. I always casually make it. And you are laid down on the ground on your back. Once you're in that position, they would start placing a board on your chest and a board on your abdomen. And on that board, they would slowly start adding stones or iron weights, gradually increasing the weight as they went.

Oh no. Is the whole dug in? Are they put in a hole like a... They are. Usually you would dig your own pit that you were put in. Ah, I thought so. I thought so. I thought I've heard of this one. Yeah and actually with Giles Cory he had to dig his own pit. And I know it just adds another layer of like dick to it. Oh my goodness. Like one of dick. Another layer of dick. Just another layer of like dick to it. Who wants one of those? Like one dick. Another layer of dick. It's such a dick. Just another layer of dick.

Just drowning in dick. You're just drowning in it. Honestly. This particular character. Yeah. He chucks. That's a different type of torture. It is.

True. That's very true. It's the way anyway. So anyway. This would essentially It's the way anyway. So anyway. This would essentially suffocate the victim slowly. No way. And this would take like days. No way.

Just wait. It's surprisingly the way. Not like shocked. But I'm saying slowly. But like why though? Because like wait.. Oh. You know what I'm saying? It's a days. That's, I'm see, I was bleeding up to that.

You said it. Yeah. It takes days for the shit to happen. Like, you were there for like two days. Oh, two. Two days? Two days? That's like when you were like,

like, six flags, you just have to be in a coffin for 30 hours. Oh yeah. It's fine. It's, like, it's just two days. Yeah. No big deal in a coffin. coffin for 30 hours. It's fine Yeah, so if this already now again, I was saying I and you you brought me there quicker than I was going there I was saying if this already didn't sound psychotic it took two fucking days So these the person that was accused would either end up entering a plea or they were just just straight up die.

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The fuck is foul water. Oh, not sure what foul water is, but hard cast. It's just Warp. Yeah. Oh, it's hot blood. It's post bath water One minute it just have a thought that it's foul because the whole family bathed in that water Imagine being the last person to take a bath. And then they were just like, oh yeah.

There's no point in bathing. Here's just stealing that from her. It was actually usually the children and then the wife and then the father of the family. Oh shit, that's why the father always stank. Well kids are gross. Kids are gross. I can attest to that.

I make them big last. Children are really gross. I'm like, mom of birth. Mom of birth. It's not a long, hard day. You wouldn't be here without mama, so mom of birth. Now, a little background on Giles, so you know how he got there. That's a big jump. Giles was a prosperous farmer who lived in the part of Salem

Village that is present day Peebitty Massachusetts. In 1685. Really? That's a good storyody Massachusetts. In 1685. Is that a good story? That's a good story. Thanks. That is exactly what we would say. Cool. That's a good story.

Shut up. Storytiler. In 1685, he married Martha Penneuer Rich, who was a widow about nine years younger than him, so like goat guile. Oh, he was actually born in Northampton, England in 1621 but he immigrated to Massachusetts. Which real unfortunate. Yeah, like you should have to stay. Good call. Not a good move. Not doing that. In April 1692 both Martha and Guiles were arrested

up for suspicion of witchcraft. Like what did you have to do to do anything? Really nothing. Are you gonna tell me? I'm gonna tell you but honestly you said to like walk by the wrong person. Yeah essentially all you just kind of like had like piss off the community. Yeah, you're in and they can all be like we don't like them So prior to her first marriage Martha Corey had given birth to a son whose father was unknown so it was a Basterd child Cory had given birth to a son whose father was unknown, so it was a bastard child. It's in the lungs. This bastard child now lived in the Cory household. So this was considered like taboo.

People were like, hmm, graze in eyebrows. What are you supposed to do to be like, throw it out the window? Yeah. Shit. Obviously. You're like, exactly. You're like, exactly. You're throwing out the window and then you have to go pick it out.

Exactly. Someone's gonna find a dead baby there and accuse you of what? And exactly. They're gonna be like, that's what you're like. It was a bastard. They're like, oh, oh, good job. Good job. Good job.

And in fact, like, whatever you say, like, you're like raising eyebrows, they're eyebrows weren't just like, raising, but they're like going like all the way to the back. It's just so raising. Like shooting off of their sister. It's too cute. It's too cute. It's too crazy. Like shooting off of their ass. It's true. It's really crazy. It's so crazy. No. Let's just press them.

Let's just press them. Let's just give a shot. Let's just see what comes out of it. Let's see. Two days. It's not four days. Yeah. So I don't have anything else to do over the weekend.

So yeah. Yeah. That's a puzzle. So Martha was a good church-going woman, and she wanted her husband, Giles, to join her as a church member. Now, as an aside, things were clearly a little different back then, and you didn't just like go to church and become a member of the congregation. This was 17th century New England, so a church was not actually even a building, per se.

It was just this core group of members who were considered saints, and they were accepted into the church completely. These people... Oh great, so a cult. Literally. Literally. Essentially. Because you had to go through some shit to get that.

These people... Oh, a hazing cult. They went for a ride. They had to stand. A church rat. A church bright. They went bright. They had to stand. They had to stand. A church fret. A church fret. A church fret.

These people had to stand in front of the congregation and confess every single sin they ever committed in their life to become a member. Oh, you mean they're a long time? Yeah. Oh, no, yeah. I really feel so sorry. I was born.

Then. I feel like everyone sit down. I hope you have some snacks. Oh my gosh. Snacks. We immediately are like food. Yeah. Have some food.

So yeah, so this gave them eligibility to receive the sacraments of communion as well as baptism for their children, yadda yadda yadda. And Reverend Samuel Paris was ordained to this church in 1689, and that's when Salem Village formed this kind of church and began to accept members, which included Martha Corey. Now, this whole crazy process is likely why, why, why, jiles, I'm thinking of Buffy too much.

Oh, I'm serious. Every time I see guiles, I think jiles from Buffy. I can figure out that too. You haven't seen Buffy, I think Giles from Buffy. I can figure you out that too. You haven't seen Buffy? Buffy the Vampire Slayer? Nope. Go watch it. I mean I notice. It's so good. But like, I know what it is. So the theme song, now I just want to hear the theme song. I know. There is a character named Giles and he's great, but this is Guiles. So not to be confused. name Giles and he's great but this is Giles. So not to be confused. Not the same person. I know it was confused. So and this whole crazy process of like standing in front of a church and telling everyone the bad shit you've done your whole life is probably why Giles joined

a church in another town because he was like I'm not doing that confession shit. And that's calling it because... Well and Giles didn't exactly have like a pristine past, like he wasn't, so he was like, no, I'm not really going to do that. Now, luckily in 1666, for those among them that didn't have, like I said, a pristine past, John Higinson convinced Salem Town Church to change their requirements for membership from public confession to the candidate's good behavior for our month. So they were like just don't be a shit head

for a month and you can be in our church. Even that's hard. No matter what you've done in your class. Exactly. They're like you murdered someone. It's fine. Just don't do that for a month. You can be in our church. Just stop real quick. Yeah. Just take a break. They also had to make a private confession of faith to the minister, which I mean that's easy if you've murdered someone and not done it for a month. So the first person to be accepted under these new rules was Bartholomew, Gennie. I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say, yes, you are a bit, but you're a bit. I'm sure it is. What should we have you be? What should we have you be? And he would be joined later by John Hawthorne and Jonathan Corwin, because everyone's name was John. That was just going to say a lot of John's.

A lot of John's. So, definitely. Yes, I know we have a lot of John's in our family. A lot of John's in our family. And then I went and I went up and married one, not from our family. But, let me just make that very clear. A abundantly clear. I just went and found another job to bring into the family. To complete the line of Johns.

I had to. It was necessary. It's a continuous cycle. I just have to keep it going. So all three of these dudes would be judges on the court of Oyer and Terminer that conducted the witch trials. Bring it back. Yippee. So it's thought that Giles probably had to seek this less strict church because he kind of did some shit. He'd seen some shit. He'd seen some shit. So his admission to

the Salem Town Church, like it acknowledged that, it said he had been a scandalous person in the former time. Have a wheel, you know, you know, I'm saying. What did it take to be a scandalous person in the 60s? Like you, uh, you, if you stepped wrong, then you were scandalous. You were very honest. You were a terrible victim. One time you like sneezed. Yeah. What was that wind coming out of your nose? It's so sweet.

It's so sorry. It makes it your fricking airbender because you sneeze. I feel like kill him now. Just kill him. Don't even have a child. It's okay. It's okay. It's okay. It's okay. It's okay. It's windows and it's everything.

Strip them in pressing. Yeah, strip them in okay, they're really good. Whatever we're gonna do to them, just strip them naked first. Always. Take his clothes off. While we decide this, just strip him naked. You must. So he wouldn't be total saint status in the church because he still was kind of shit.

But they gave him right to communion, so that's cool. He could go take the wafer, which I don't even know if that's what it was back then, but I imagine it was. Now him being allowed to receive communion in the church, probably pissed off some of the Salem villagers because they were like, he's a dirty bird and he should not be an architect. I'm going to start calling you so. They probably thought he was like, soullies. I'm gonna stick.

I wonder if they actually said that word for word. I think that's probably what they said. They were like, he's actually a direct quote. We didn't interview you. I was there. Who is that? Oh, great. I'm the oldest one here and I'm the oldest one on the planet.

So yeah, which for you at the state. Which right here? So they were probably like you're selling the good name of the church by being in it and they were probably like we're gonna get you back, which they did. So why might guys have been accused of witchcraft? Well, in the 1670s, his neighbor, John Proctor, the principal, IE. IE.

I know that. He accused Giles of setting fire to his house. And law. Which like that's a lot. Yeah, calm down. That's a real shit move. Fussing Giles. Right, Giles.

It's not a witchcraft thing, though. Calm down, gals. Another man accused gals of tearing down his fence and stealing his wood hay and tools. Which I like. She sounds like a shitty neighbor, not a witch. Right? Like, he's just a mischievous, I feel. He's just a mischievous.

He is a wild trick. He's a wild flower. He can't help it. So, and then now this one, this one ratchets it up a notch. And another time in a fit of anger, he used a stick to severely beat his hard hand, Jacob Goodell. And that man died after of those wounds. Alright, so a little bit more than a shitty neighbor.

So like a murderous shitty neighbor. He like kind of sword I'm murdered someone yeah kind of so He's slightly murdered someone, but you know I'm so you paid his dues guys. Oh, okay. Oh great. So like $50 or something. Yeah, they were like you give us like a handful of Shreibery and we'll you're good. Okay, I Like basically have sex have a baby with a man that you don't know very well. Okay, I get it. So like basically have sex, have a baby with a man that you don't know very well, you get killed for it. Yeah. Murder someone and

pay like five shelings in the fine. Yeah, it's okay. Okay. I mean, I get it. I don't see a problem with that at all. You're right. You're right. This is justice, okay, Tyler? It's justice. Oh, so she's a demon. In 16, 16, 16. Do not argue with justice. We've come a lot of times instead. We have sort of. So, but you know what's good? He hadn't committed any crime since marrying Martha.

So he was good for a while. So that's good. Martha saved you. Yeah, Martha was good for him. And you know, like, let's just all forget about that. So, um, and he, so the Salem Church record notes a remarkable changing quarry when he became a member of the church. It says, he found them some God, like, they all do in prison. So it says, quote, Guiles quarry, a man of 80 years of age, having been a scandalous person in his former time, and God having in his later time awakened him unto repentance, he stood propounded a month,

making a confession of such evils. As had been observed to him before, he was received into the church with consent of the brethren. Damn it, I almost got that without stuttering. That's okay. Brotherhood. There you go. You're now putting word jail. Yeah, damn it. Yeah, you're rich.

So obviously people saw that he regretted his former sins and he was trying to change. Now before he was accused of witchcraft, his wife Martha was actually accused of witchcraft. Oh. She, and it made no sense because she was like a good lady and was like going to church and she was like, I don't understand this. So she also had no idea about this kind of paranoia with the witchcraft stuff. So she denied it very calmly when they accused her of it. Like she was like, no, I'm not fucking witch. Like, what's wrong with you? So the judges misunderstood this as someone who had an evil plan that was successful so far. Obviously. Of course they do.

I feel like part of it is like boredom because like, oh yeah. Oh yeah. Then if you're not sick or if you're not dying from a sickness, there's no TV. There's no football game to watch. They're like, oh, what do you want to do this weekend? I don't know. Oh, I want to press somebody. That's what I want to do. Press someone. It's like your plans for the weekend. You're like, you know what? We're actually going to burn some stuff. Yeah. And then we were going to grab some steaks.

Yeah. Yeah. It's going to be great guys. I'm so excited. And after we're gonna throw a baby out the window. Yeah, you know, just so we wouldn't be accused of witchcraft. So unfortunately, she attempted to go to her place and as a result in Putnam and her mother both started pretending that Martha was torturing them with like her mind because that's what people did. Fantastic. Yeah, because so she went to the people and was like, please help and they were like, you're a witch. I guess it could. Oh, it would definitely come in handy. Yeah, seriously. Well, then they began mimicking her movements, like she was controlling them like puppets, which is like... Yeah, I was like, that's theatrical. You guys have festivities. Yeah, that really is. Now, this of course, convinced a jury of her guilt.

This alone. Yeah, probable scum, is that right? They were like, see, she's making us do this, and they were like, oh, obviously. They're like, you know you're okay and then we don't know what so ahead of their time now the problem with giles was he tried to defend her so they were like you'll which to them every man from the cell yeah exactly exactly like you said whole bunch, but I'd be like, we were never together. I did not even know him. I've never met someone to do any. That's definitely the photo of us together.

I don't know if any of you know the list of this. She does it. So, I would stand by John. She would. Every second of mine. I'd be like, he is not a witch. You can press me for it. So. Right? No, he is not a witch you can press me for it. So, right?

Not a question. So sweet. Now, Corey was originally cues just for defending his wife and because his family apparently was closely associated with the Porter faction of the village church who was opposing the Putnam faction. So, Porter's and Putnam's hated each other. Back in the kitchen. So, I think it was also kind of compounded on the fact that he was a super hard and super stubborn man who expressed criticism, criticism, criticism, criticism. Criticism.

Criticism. Alright, I got it. Criticism of the whole witchcraft paranoia to begin with. So they were like, oh you don't believe in this? You're probably witch. Yeah, back then it was just not good to stand against the crowd. Yeah, it really wasn't. Mm-hmm. So you're not sure what it was big. Yeah. You guys are right. Yeah. That's what it's considered mobbing. Yeah, this was full on mob hysteria. Oh yeah. And his appearances in court, not for trial, were bananas because they actually tied his

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because you know all those people that have to pretend that their specter is attacking him. All the afflicted were seized now with fits and troubled with pinches. Then the court ordered his hands to be tied. So the magistrate said, what is it not enough to act witchcraft at other times, but must you do it now in the face of authority? And Corey said, I am a poor creature and cannot help it. Upon the move. I'm not a witch. Like he's like, I don't fucking know what's happening right now.

Also, did you say he was 80? He was, he was old as fuck. Yeah, that's crazy. Wow. I know. So this dude lives until 80 and then they press him to death. Like that stuff. He could have been older. He could have been older. I was going somewhere with that but it got late and I didn't. There could have been more days with him.

He could have been. Sure. Could have been older. So upon. He could have been. Sorry. Could have been older. So upon motion of his head again, they had their heads and necks afflicted. So after untying one of his hands, the afflicted girls began having fits, according to Paris's records.

It says one of his hands was let go and several were afflicted. He held his head on one side and then the heads of several of the afflicted were held on that one side. He drew in his cheeks then the heads of several of the afflicted were held on that one side He drew in his cheeks and the cheeks of some of the others were afflicted were sucked in so he was like Like fish face and they did So essentially just like a click of like teenage girls that were like killing this man literally trying to like having fun too

Like having fun killing this 80 or that they were the real witches, right? Oh yeah. They're witches. Yeah. Oh, guys, unfortunately, after all this, they were like, you're clearly witch. So that's when they pressed him to death in an open pit that he was forced to dig himself.

All who knew him and all his neighbors were watching the whole time. So that's cool. Now whenever Corwin, who was doing the execution, remember we're talking about Georgie Corwin. The strangler. Yeah, doggy about. Doggy. Doggy. He was the original dog. It's a bounty hunter. We're going to hold it for that. Yeah, little known pect. So whenever Corwin would tell him to plead, he would just respond with more weight. Because he was, because Giles was a badass of that. Yeah, no kidding.

Yeah, he was like, fuck you more weight. So he also, he was badass for sure, but he also probably knew more weight meant he would die quicker. So he was like, just pack that you know. Come on, let's go. Just do it. Today, see you. I actually feel like that is kind of familiar. I feel like I think I have to put that.

More weight, right? That's like the famous line attributed to. It's like etched on the memorial in Salem next to his name, everything. Everything really. Wow. Yeah, so it's like his, that's like the infamous line. Let's do it.

I love Salem. We should go. We should. So after being tortured for days, he finally died on September 19 19, 1692. He was buried in an unmarked grave on Gallows Hill, although he is now part of the big memorial of victims of the Salem Witch Trials by the old Barrow grounds in Salem. Now September 18th, like the day before he died, right in the middle of his torture. Giles Corey was in the middle of his torture was excommunicated from the church.

They were like by the way, you can't come back. Like while he was under there they were like even in the afternoons. Even though you like admitted all your shit, you can't come back. So the church documents argued that he was either guilty of witchcraft or of suicide due to his choice to endure lethal torture rather than enter a plea. So that's why they did that prior to his death. No way. Oh wait. The church can't excommunicate, yeah, the church can't excommunicate a dead person. So they're like, you're not associated with us, mother fuckers. I didn't even do that on purpose,

but we just connected to your last episode. I know, right. And if you want to hear that, go listen to it. Yeah, excommunication means to not be able to accept communion, so it's kind of redundant to excommunicate a dead person. That's true. Because they can't even accept communion in the first place. And what a dick move that would be to excommunicate a dead person. Okay. Like, just to really rub it in.

Now, unfortunately, Martha Corey had been excommunicated a week earlier on September 11, 1692. Later in 1712 both of their excommunications were rescinded. So they were able to? So they were now that they were dead. They were not excommunicated anymore. They were not community next to each other. But at least later they took it back. Like're like, just kidding. So that's nice. Now, of all the things people can remember about Giles' Quarry, which are a lot, his curse is one that wreaks havoc even today. Because before he died, he supposedly looked at Sheriff Corwin and yelled, damn you, I curse you and I curse Salem.

Oh, that is how you actually know that you're cursed like you just been wow. Like you he looked at him and was like you right there you've been cursed like right. I'm going to destroy your days. Literally. All of them. Yeah. In the whole town. Like he was like by the same way. Like fuck this place. Like that place sucks. Yeah. Well, four years after Cory's death, Sheriff Corwin died suddenly in 1696 of a heart and blood ailment at just 30 years old. Oh, honey. Just Sam. Boogie stuff is out of the sand.

That was first. Now, that's spooky. But that curse didn't just hit Corwin, but that's Sheriff. It has cursed every Salem Sheriff since 1962. What? In the 1970s, after Salem Sheriff Robert E. K. Hill was forced to retire early due to a stroke heart attack and a rare blood condition, he looked like all those things at once. I feel like I don't want to be Sheriff's.

Yeah, I like the note. Thank you. I'll take that promotion with a new one. Well, he ended up looking into the history of the Sheriff's office, and as described in the book, Cursed in New England, it says that Mr. K. Hill notes that the sheriff before him also contracted a serious blood ailment while in office, it forced him to retire. He in turn had inherited the post from his father after the elder man died of a heart attack while serving a sheriff. The previous sheriff had suffered heart problems as well, so have all the others as far back as anyone could trace, he says. So they all had heart ailments and blood ailments.

And then like the sheriff after that, he's like, hey, can I get this promotion but like not be called a sheriff? Like maybe that's much wrong maybe Like can I be called like super long Just do not call me sheriff was down. Just do not call me Sheriff. Like that be great. Can I be sweetie? Yeah. I'll be super long in extreme or cart that's it. There's only one there's only room for one super long extreme in this town. That has a nice rig to be. That's really snappy. So snappy snappy. Now, luckily in 1991, the sheriff's office was moved from Salem to Middleton. So the curf seems to be chillin' now, and it's not taking over.

That's wild. And he sheriff's blood anymore. And they think that the move was the reason. They were like a side of Salem, so I think so. I think so, yeah. Still, it's weird. It's definitely weird. I don't think so. I think there are a few people at Curse.

So now we're just gonna pop on back to George Corwin real quick. Now after Corwin's death at only 30 years old, before they could get him to a more proper burial site, his burial was delayed by a Salem resident named Philip English. This Philip English was accused during the witch trials and had somehow got out of it, I don't know how. But he had had his property seized by Corwin in the process. In a hilarious twist of power, Philip English put a lien on Corwin's corpse and delayed its burial until he had been reimbursed for the property he lost to Corwin So he was eventually reimbursed and that's when his burial could happen.

Out of that ass, wow Right? Seriously? Like that's amazing That's a mic drop And at the time of his death because he couldn't be put anywhere else Corwin was and he was also despised by his entire family. By the way, like he saw.

His family buried him in the cellar of his own home, the Joshua Ward house. Because they were scared that an angry public, including Corrie's widow, would desecrate his corpse. Like they were like, they were like an angry mob is gonna come pull him apart. So we need to put a little bit of his fear.

It's a fight, so. I mean. Yeah, yeah, you know. So this guy ruthlessly tortured accused They're like an angry mob is gonna come pull him apart so we need to probably justify it here Yeah, yeah, you know so this guy ruthlessly tortured accused which is murdered accused Which is and was buried in the house that is now the site of the mansion that still stands yes now Obviously some paranormal ship is probably gonna be hanging out Nowadays this site is a boutique hotel called the merchant, which is paying homage to the house's Les Nightmare Showner, the sea merchant, but they're not psyched to chat about any of the like shitty history that my son's. Like they're like what? No it's not. Like what are you talking about? Yes, like fucking guys. No it's us. Like stay here. It's cool. Before it it was a hotel it was a real estate company and a publishing company.

Now, initially it was felt that two ghosts resided in the mansion and that was George Corwin and his last victim, Giles Corrie. Both of these ghosts have a reputation for being restless and kind of pissed off, which you can kind of understand. Items are found out of place a lot in the mansion, cans are found turned over things are thrown off of shelves and rooms They're just suddenly a straight up mess. I don't know where like you'll walk into a room. It's just like fucking crazy Oh, it's been dogs about which I just think is messy people It's just You're again damn it Did you find the pair of sunglasses

Oh, mine keep getting stolen There's a pair of sunglasses. Oh my, you can't even stole them. Where are all my sunglasses going? No, candlesticks have also been found on the floor with their tapers found melted into shapes of various letters. Hate trying to spell something out. Which I think is rad. Like I'd be like keep going, I want to know where to spell it out. I feel like, I'm going to be a kid. I'm going to leave now. And over the course of two years, one alarm in the house was triggered over 60 times without any explanation.

Only one of them? Yeah, only one of them, like one particular one. Yeah. There are also cold spots felt in specific parts of the house all the time. And the apparition of course, being on a chair near one of the fireplaces, which if I saw him, I feel like I would just want to sit down and ask him if it was worth being a shit-same for so long. Like, was it worth it? And then he possessed you and you would be called a witch. And then exactly, and then the whole thing would start all over again Yeah, what oh my god, oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god. It's basically happening now

You just said that once you see exactly So in the mid 1980s several witnesses reported being choked by an unseen entity when they went into the house Kinky this makes sense I'm sure they felt that way. I'm kind of into it. I didn't pay for this extra service. Comes complimentary like breakfast. It was the breakfast. It was the breakfast. It was the breakfast. It was the breakfast. It was the breakfast. It was the breakfast. It was the breakfast.

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So the image, yeah, you gotta bring this up. I'll see if Ashley is, because we'll definitely post it on the Instagram, because what developed was a strange full length figure of a female with like crazy black hair. Yeah. But my entire fucking body, you just got caught in the air. Is it not terrifying? Well, the photo was published in Robert K. Hill's book entitled Haunted Happening. A lot of people think that this lady is one of the accused witches that was tortured or killed at the house.

She definitely looks like a witch. Is this reasonable enough. It does. So there is a paranormal like historic tour organization in Salem called Spellbound organization and they take people around to different sites and tell them the history and like do paranormal investigations and all that shit. According to them during one of their first paranormal investigations at the Joshua Wardhouse some shit went down. So one of their first paranormal investigations at the Joshua Wardhouse, some shit went down So one of the investigators was in the basement No one had heard from him for a while. So they were like, let's go check on Bob and

When they got down there the dude was literally on the floor Riding in pain and struggling to breathe Yeah, so they finally got him up and got him to tell them what was happening and like try to calm down and He said he was setting up equipment down there and he was hit from behind by something and then his throat suddenly seized up and he couldn't breathe So when he turned around to see who was fucking choking him no one was there, but it continued He still couldn't breathe and he said he felt like it was a vice that was tightening around his throat Oh my god. He actually, yeah, right?

And he actually passed out and that's when his colleagues found him. Whoa. Yeah. While he told them this, they saw bruising start to appear on his neck that was consistent with what has seen in a victim who's been like violently choked. Oh my god. Don't like that one. That's why.

That's the thing. That is not kicking. Click the logout button right now. This dude, this dude quit immediately. Yeah. Now I'm gonna run over like I am not fucking with the paranormal. Now I'm gonna count it. Yeah, definitely not. So another story from the same organization was from the founder and former head investigator Molly Stewart. She specializes in electronic voice phenomenon or E.B.P's. Molly had conducted two previous trips to the Joshua Ward House and she had taken pictures and like video and all that nothing really came from them so she was like bummer. So she went for a third time and she was like, I'm probably not gonna get anything, but I'm gonna try it again. She was alone in

the house and had it set up audio and video recording devices everywhere. At the close of the investigation, she collected everything, brought them back to her office, and when she played the tape back from the basement, which is where Bob got choked. A voice growled out, I just want to keep you. got choked. A voice growled out. I just want to keep you. Oh, no thanks. No thanks. And she said it was like clear as day. I got some good old chillies from that one. Right. That's that's some good stuff. That was nice. I don't like that. That'll give you the heaps. I never felt so wanted. We all had different reactions. I just lost my earphones. I just want to keep you. No.

She checked all the surveillance footage. No person had been down there. No person had been in the house when she was there. And she said it was super clear, super distinct, no background distortion. Out of nowhere, it was like an angry voice yelling it. You know what she said? Well not your person. Just another one of those callbacks that you have to go to the other episode at the right room to her podcast. So yeah that's basically the end of that. That's so basically the judge award house. I

did. I did. The Joshua Award basically the Joshua Ward house. I did. The Joshua Ward house is super fucking haunted. I wish I didn't look at that picture because now I have to drive home and fuck you. Exactly. I know. Nice. And we're in like a billion year old house.

So that's gonna get the fuck out of here. So yeah, that's the Joshua Ward house. Wow. So Massachusetts fucked. Wow, what a treat! Huh? Yeah, that was fun. I'm just kidding, sometimes guys. Yeah, let's go right now.

Let's get not go there. Wow, that was fucking insane. Thanks. You're welcome. Well, this was really fun. That was cool. Dude, this was a blast. It really was.

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