Morbid - Episode 225: The Abduction and Murder of Daniel Morcombe

Episode Date: April 18, 2021

Daniel Morcombe was 13 years old when he was taken from a bus stop in Queensland Australia. Queensland was supposed to be one of the safest places to live so this absolutely rocked the community. It would be 8 years before anyone would get answers, and the man who gave the answers is one of the scariest people to walk the planet.  As always, thank you to our sponsors: Curology: Go to Curology.com/morbid for a free 30-day trial, just pay for shipping and handling! Skylight Frame: Now, as a special holiday offer, you can get $10 off your purchase of a Skylight Frame when you go SkylightFrame.com and enter code Morbid. HelloFresh: Go to HelloFresh.com/10morbid and use code 10morbid for 10 free meals, including free shipping! Embr: Get $50 off by going to embrwave.com/Morbid Sources: https://www.courts.qld.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0004/608476/cif-morcombe-d-20190405.pdf https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-10-23/daniel-morcombe-adam-davidson-sentenced-over-cowan-torture/9076452 https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/daniel-morcombe-s-killer-brett-peter-cowan-stabbed-in-the-ear-and-neck-20180504-p4zdd2.html See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Hey weirdos, I'm Ash and I'm Elena. And this is morbid. Yeah, be more bent in the morning, Because we always tell you the time of day Currently at this moment it is 8.16am I am currently drinking coffee out of my willy-guys Sunday morning today show I'm so jealous of you because I cut out coffee for dietary reasons That's insane

I don't want to but my stomach is just a fucking cesspool. So there's that. I've been eating delicious food lately. Wow, that's a bummer, I know. But I'm going to the doctor in a couple weeks. So hopefully he tells me I can eat delicious food again. As long as you don't become one of those people that starts judging everyone else.

Can I do it in my mind? No. I literally cannot. No. One of the people I hate the most on planet Earth. The people who eat healthy. Oh yeah. But you can eat healthy all you want.

I like healthy food. But when people judge other people, do you know how many calories are in? Do you know how much sugar is in that? Like go fuck yourself. Oh yeah. What I want, you eat what you want. Well that's a thing, it's like especially like when you're on a diet or something, like at work

and you're like co-workers like, or no like when you're the one that's like, oh I wish I could eat that. Like when you're co-workers eating, you're like, you could. Yeah, that's like shut up. I hate discussions like that. I'm like, honestly food related discussions in general,

unless you're like talking about a bomb ass recipe that you just made, I don't care what you're eating. Just don't judge people for their food. Yeah, no. It makes me crazy. I don't judge people for their food. I just, I judge myself for my food. I won't allow you to, so don't worry.

I guess not. Well, that is nothing to do with anything today. It does, and we're trying to delay the case because it's such an early one. Alaina is at least. Yeah, this is an early case. It may not be for you to tune into. This is a child case.

Super duper highly requested, though. I was just gonna say very well known. Yeah, very long-term community. Yes, and very requested from our Australian listeners. So today we're gonna be covering the case of Daniel Morcom. I know this one. It is a doozy. Sure is. I have been in a whole of this for like two weeks now, and I'm ready to deliver you the information. I'm ready to get it out. Yeah, just get it out. Clear it all out. Honestly, we should have had Drew do a palette cleanser for this one.

The other thing is, I'm going to suggest a book to you. It's in the middle of this, so I'll tell you the title then. But I'm not going crazy into detail about some of the yucky or things that are like, you know, not super early. You don't really want to hear about them in detail. If you do, you can go read the book that I'm going to tell you about. There you go. All right, so let's get into it. Daniel Markome was born on December 19th, 1989

to his parents Denise and Bruce Markome. He actually had a twin brother named Brad and an older brother named Dean. And Dean was only about like a year and a half or two years older than the while. So super like close in age. Now the family lived in Queensland, Australia, and they were super close knit. This was like the kind of family that you lived in Queensland, Australia, and they were super close knit.

This was like the kind of family that you see in movies, just like really loving and kind people. Awesome. I know, we love to see it. Denise and Bruce had this beautiful home that they were stored together, actually, with a pool, a gorgeous garden, lots of space for animals. This family loved animals. They had horses, Daniel and Bradley actually had a pair of ponies of their own that they could take care of and like learn responsibility.

Oh my god, this family. There was a cow, there were chickens, and there were two cats and a dog. Of course. Hell yeah. What a house. I know, it sounds like a great time. I love it. And Daniel always said that he wanted to be a vet when he grew up. And he really would have made a great vet because he just had this way with animals and even most of the family's pets like gravitated towards him. Like I think both cats slept in his room at night. Oh my god. I think the dog may have as well.

Wow. Now, Queensland, Australia seemed like the perfect place to raise a family. For one thing, it is literally called the sunshine state. Oh really? Literally. Oh, that's funny. And it's also known as one of the safest places in Australia.

So that's why when 13-year-old Daniel went missing around Christmas time in 2003, the community was shook. Just completely rocked. Absolutely. Now, the day Daniel went missing was Sunday, December 7, 2003, it was less than two weeks until his 14th birthday. I was gonna say that's right before his birthday. was less than two weeks until his 14th birthday. I was gonna say that's right before his birthday. So less than two weeks until his birthday and less than three weeks until Christmas.

And the family was incredibly excited for Christmas. Like, that was their holiday. Because Bruce and Denise actually owned their own mowing business. That was like incredibly busy. And Christmas was a time where they could all slow down and really just enjoy their time together. Yeah. So Daniel actually needed a haircut before his birthday and the holidays and he also wanted to get his family some Christmas gifts. So he set out for the bus stop with plans to catch the 135 PM bus. And also I feel like the thought of a 13-year-old boy just wanting to like go get Christmas gifts for his family is one of the sweetest things to ever and completely heartbreaking in this case.

It is, especially when you think about like the general disposition of most 13 year old voice, like he's just running out to get gifts for his family. It's touching. It's adorable. Now, Daniel was really compassionate and giving and he definitely loved to make other people, especially his family happy.

And so the book that his parents actually wrote is called Where Is Daniel? It's a really good read. They described this one time where they were away celebrating their anniversary. And I think the boys' grandparents were taking care of them. And Brad and Daniel dug out this special pool for their parents so that they could surprise them with like a little goldfish pool. Stop. Right. And Daniel's grandfather told his parents how he especially had worked like really hard and was so excited to be doing this for his parents. Oh my god. So I just wanted to tell

that little anecdote because I feel like it really puts into perspective like just who this kid was. And he was so cute. Oh my god. I like cried a few times during this, just because he's just like such a little face. He's like, I have such a baby face. He has this, it's a face that you just like, it sticks in my head. And you're like, you're an amazing kid.

Like you're a good kid. You're just a good kid. I know. So he walks over to the bus stop at Keel Mountain Road overpass, which really wasn't a big deal. He'd gone and taken the bus on his own before. Like I said, Queensland was a really safe place. Nothing bad happened there.

And all the more co-employees were really responsible kids who were independent when they needed to be. And to add to that even more, the bus stop was less than a mile away from the family's home. Right? That's where it should happen. I know, I know. I know.

It's so true. Now, Daniel was wearing a red shirt, a pair of dark shorts and white sneakers, and plenty of witnesses saw him standing at the bus stop. Like a ton of people saw him. Now, unfortunately, the 135 bus had broken down. Not that far away, but far enough so that Daniel couldn't see it, and he was already getting confused like, hey, where's the bus?

Now a man who did see that that bus was broken down, however, noted that it was broken down, drove past the bus stop and spotted Daniel, and then he looped back around again and parked his car in the parking lot behind the bus stop, got out and seemed to be waiting for the next bus with Daniel, which is weird because like I just said, he has a car. I was going to say, why are you waiting for the bus, but okay. So witnesses saw this man standing behind Daniel kind of leaned up against the wall with one leg up. So we had like one leg kind of tucked behind him.

And Daniel was seemingly using a stick to draw on the dirt around him, just kind of passing the time until the next bus arrived. Because he's a kid. Yeah. Now a replacement bus was sent out, but for some reason it didn't stop when where Daniel and the man were standing, even though Daniel was trying to wave the bus down.

He just zoomed right by. And who knows? I think Daniel was just like, wait, why is that why and why is no bus coming together? Like why did that one just come by? So he probably turned around and like said to the guy like, what's going on? You know, yeah, who knows? Now the guy told him, you know, I have my car anyway, why don't I give you a ride? So Daniel agreed having no way of knowing that a bus actually would be coming for that stop in three minutes.

Oh. Three more minutes, but when the bus got there, neither Daniel or the man was waiting there anymore. What kills me is this guy drove past this bus stop. It's always when like in these kind of cases, where somebody like an adult drives by spots a kid, and it makes like a conscious decision. Oh yeah, that's the one that turned the car around.

Like that is whenever I hear that, it's just like human hunting humans in general is a wildest thing to me, but truly, adult humans hunting children. Human is spotting a child out, having no idea. Anything about it and just being like, yep. Yeah, I'm gonna ruin that one's like family's life. Doesn't care at all.

Just you made a conscious decision. Like that isn't it's so crazy to me. Oh, we're gonna talk about this guy. He is fucked. Oh, like deeply, deeply disturbed. But before we get into that, let's kind of go into like the search a little bit. Yeah. So Daniel's parents had actually been

at a Christmas party that day that they were putting on for work. Like I said, I don't know if I mentioned before, they owned like a franchise of more companies. Yeah. So the party was to enter on four and then around four 30, Denise drove over to the bus stop to pick Daniel up.

Only he was not on the bus that stopped there. So an hour later, Bruce drove to the bus stop to pick Daniel up. Only he was not on the bus that stopped there. So an hour later, Bruce drove to the bus stop again, knowing that the bus that would be arriving would be the last to leave the sunset plaza where Daniel was supposed to be shopping for the evening. So it was like if he wasn't on that bus, like, where was he? So he goes there yet again Daniel's not on the bus. Hey there fellow podcast listener, it's Elena. And Ash! And we're taking you back to the days before streaming services. Whoa! You know when you would come home from high school and it was only a few hours until that TV

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something. Like they're hoping the not the worst, you know. They're hoping it's something they can ground them over. Yeah, you know what I mean? Right. Even though it would be like crazy out of character, which we'll also get into. So no sign of Daniel, they leave the pausa and they travel the same route that the last bus would have. And they even flagged down one of the sun buses

to see if maybe one of them was like running off of schedule or something, but they were told that no one was at the depot at the moment to like the office where they run the bus schedules, no one was there. So there was nobody to call to find out about the schedules. And the bus driver was like, I don't know, like I'm sorry.

Like you can't help you. Right. So then they went back to the plaza one last time. They're like, maybe we'll just do like one more check. They don't see him. And they come to the realization that he's missing, and we need to contact the police. Oh my god. So now we can't imagine having to make that call.

No, and especially just getting to that point. Because especially thinking, oh, you know, he was shopping, he probably just got caught up. Like, let's go back there. Like, in your mind, you're going to convince yourself that he's there. Yeah, we're going to find him there. We're going to be able to be like, what are you thinking? Like come on.

You made us worried sick. Yeah. Let's go home. Right. But nothing can prepare you for that. No. So now it's 7.30 and it's been six hours since Daniel first arrived at that bus stop. And as we know, never stepped foot on any bus.

Now Bruce and Denise arrived at the station and described the entire situation to officer Robbie Munn, who then told them that Daniel was probably just with friends and forgot to call them. I hate these things. I hate these things. So annoying. And it's like Bruce and Denise know their son and they're like, that's what kills me.

They were like, it's way out of character for him. Anytime he's ever run late, he's called us like he would call us. Yeah. And if he had met up with friends and wanted to stay out later, again, he would have called us. That's the thing. That's just who he was and we know him, you don't. That exactly, because I feel like in these situations, I always hear, like you hear that

over and over again, that a police officer or a detective looks at parents or a spouse or somebody who knows these people and are like, he's probably doing this or she's probably doing this and they're like, no, I know them, they wouldn't do that. And they're like, no, they probably did. And it's like, you literally don't know this person. You know nothing about him.

Right. Like, I know you're trying to be like, you're trying to keep the situation calm, but it's like, don't tell parents what their kid is prone to do and not do. Exactly. They're worried and they have a reason to worry.

And they're the parents, they know. They know. So they were told at that moment that a missing person's report could not be filed that night. He's 13 years old. Well, that's the other day. And what? Well, that's what the officer was saying.

He was like, well, he's 13. Like, he's probably out with his friends. And he's like, he's not like 17, he's 13. Yeah, like that's, geez, he can't drive. He can like, he can literally do nothing at 13. Like what the hell are you gonna do? And now, obviously, like I said, they were like, no, that's not Daniel, but just to be sure,

and honestly at this point, they're just desperate for any answers, they call all of Daniel's friends. But we're told that none of them had seen or had even been with Daniel that day. So they set out that night again, one more time to the bus stop with like torches to like look around and obviously they didn't find anything. Oh, it's gonna be so sad.

The police did call later that night to say like, hey, did he show up? Like what's going on? And they were like, no, like we told you he's not out with his friends, like that we know him better than you. Yeah. They were like, no, he's not here. So at that point, Bruce and Denise were told

that they could come down to the station in the morning to make an official report. And I'll be like, Good night, sleep, Denise and Bruce. Yeah, right. And I can't even. Tomorrow, it's like I was thinking that it's funny that you said that while I was like writing this all, I was like, what did they

do that night? They must have just not sleep all night. They just, I get like, I think that all the time in these situations where those parents must, if you sleep, it must be like one of those like sleeps where your eyes are just like glazed over and you guys are sitting there staring into space and like happened to go unconscious for a minute because your body forces you to, there's no way you're laying your head down on the pillow

or like getting into bed and like snuggling up. No, no, no. Because you're just sitting there being like, what if they walk through the door? What if we find out that they need me? What if you know? Yeah. And they found some stress for them.

They like, quote unquote, quote unquote, excuse me, got up at like the first light of the morning and set out for the day. Yeah. And they found some stress for them. They like quote unquote, quote unquote, excuse me, got up at like the first light of the morning and set out for the day. Yeah. Of course. Nope. It's bright out like, let's go as soon as the sun peaks over, I'd be like, and we're off. But then they had to drive. There's one of their sons to work. Because remember, they have two other children. Yeah, they can't give up on their other kids. Dean. And then they have Daniel's twin brother,, that's terrible, to have to deal with continuing to be a parent while you're in that situation. Oh yeah, because you can just put it on pause.

Not take care of the kids that are here, you have to keep it in, you have to make sure that you're not panicking them, that they know as little as possible until you know what's going on. That is an impossible situation. I can't even imagine how you just like navigate that because there's no book on that.

What do you mean? No one ever thinks they'll be in that kind of position. No, and at this point Bruce was especially aggravated that his son was out there missing and nobody seemed to be listening to him. Of course. Like he was like, my son's not a runaway. I'm pissed for him.

Yeah. So the official report was filed on December 8, 2003, and the investigation was on at this point. There were divers activated in the area to search for Daniel. The police searched that bus stop itself for any evidence. They didn't really find anything. They started knocking on doors in the area to see if anyone knew anything.

More importantly, they pulled the records of sexual offenders in the area, which there were a few. Daniel also had a bank card on him that day, so they wanted to check to see if any of his accounts had been messed up. Oh yeah. They had it. Now they contact the bus company and they interview all the drivers who were in the area, that area. In the area. In the area that day. So American, you, I know. Talking about an Australian case, the area. And later, when the case started making headlines, passengers on the bus and just anyone who drove by the bus stop that day started coming forward describing the man that they had

seen standing behind Daniel. So the man who had accepted, who Daniel accepted the ride home from or to the mall from, excuse me, was Brett Peter Cowan, a perverted monster of a human being to say the least. And also clearly because he has three names. Yeah, you're going to say your guilty. Don't go by your three names. No, do it. Now Brett Peter Cowan was born in, I believe it's Bunbury, Australia.

That's an adorable sounding. Yeah, Bunbury. I want to live in Bunbury. Other than the fact that he came from there. God, I love Australia. Yeah, bunberry. I want to look fun. Bunberry? Other than the fact that he came from there. God, I love Australia. Oh, it's the best. I love you guys.

Now, he was born on August 18th, 1969. Excuse me. His mother Marlene was a stay-at-home mom and his father Peter actually served in the Vietnam War. Oh, wow. Now, he and his three brothers were raised with Christian values and Marlene and Peter were very, very religious and very, very strict. All right. Which is not, I feel like it's non-accombo that really goes well together most of the time.

It's a very intense combo. Yeah. Growing up Brett was quiet, kept to himself. He didn't really have any hobbies or interests, but overall people said that he, quote, seemed all right. But overall people said that he quote, seemed all right. Seemed all right. All right. He and his three brothers all attended Marcellan College, which was a super strict Catholic school. But Brett dropped out in his 10th year,

which is like that sophomore year here. I'm assuming it's pretty similar there. Yeah. That's pretty young. Yeah, oh yeah. Yeah. Now he would work odd jobs, but mostly he was just concerned

with using drugs and committing crimes. Yeah, as any kid is. Yeah. Now he would work odd jobs, but mostly he was just concerned with using drugs and committing crimes. Yeah, as any kid is. Yeah, you know. No. No. This is gonna blow your mind. Uh-oh. He was only 11 the first time he tried smoking weed.

What? 11! What? That is a baby! 11 is a baby. A baby. No, it was all downhill from there because once he dropped out of school, he started using harder drugs. He was using cocaine, school, he started using harder drugs.

He was using cocaine, acid, different amphetamines, and he was doing these drugs regularly. Jeez. Yeah. He was getting into trouble left and right for theft and drug charges, but then in 1987, he was charged with something horrific. Trigger warning, this is a lot. Oh no. He molested a seven year old boy. What the fuck?

Now again, like I said in the beginning, I'm not going to go into great detail here. You can definitely read this book or find some other sources I'll give you in the show notes. But the molestation took place while Brett was doing community service at a park. And afterwards he faced charges, or excuse me, after he faced the charges,

he only spent three years in prison. What? Three years in prison for that. For sexually assaulting a seven-year-old? Yes. Okay. So after that mere slap on the wrist, he went on to do the same thing in September of 1993, and this time, again, trigger warning, he raped a six-year-old boy.

Six years old? Now the boy suffered severe injuries from the attack, including a punctured lung. Huh. And Cowan just left him there bleeding, like in the brush. The boy was able to get help only when he stumbled into a service station. Yeah, like gut wrenching.

And somehow Cowan was only sentenced to seven years. these are the charges that he went he faced seven years for Gross and in decency grievous bodily harm and deprivation of liberty Okay, and you get seven years for that and it's like we've already he that should be it like you gave him the three years Right came out he did it again. Jill forever. Bye. Yeah. Exactly. And it's like, it's not like stealing something or, you know, a drug charge or something like that.

This is a salt. This is young children. And young children. Essentially not give, and he left him there. He didn't know if he lived or died. Exactly. He didn't even actually attempt to murder. You're destroying a six-year-old, but like no.

I can't even like think about it too far in my head because it's unreal. And so like I said, he was sentenced to seven years but actually got out in just four and a half of years. Of course he did, because that's always how it works. No, and it's these particularly disturbing, like sexual crimes where the perpetrator gets out in like a minute.

Yeah, you're like, but then just does it again. Right, every single time. Because what do they learn? Oh, I'm only gonna go away for like a minute. Yeah, you're like, but then just does it again. Right. Every single time. Because what do they learn? Oh, I'm only going to go away for a little bit. Yeah. So like, fuck it. Yeah.

Which is horrible. They're their urges and their whole illness. It was like, they can't, they get out after those like three years or those, you know, four years or whatever. And they're like, you know what? It's worth it to go back in for another four years. And it's only four years. Right.

Like that's how sick they are. Oh, they're so gross. I hate, it's like this kind of case. Oh, it makes you so angry. These kind of things make me so angry. Luckily, I will tell you the end of this case, you get like a ha ha. Okay, good, I love that.

So just keep in everybody in for the ride. Love that. Now when he was released from prison this time, he moved to, excuse me, from Darwin to the Sunshine Coast in Queensland with his aunt and uncle Jenny and Keith Philbrook. I found some sources that referred to him as a reformed Christian during this time period,

but that could not be further from the truth. Okay, I'm shocked. Not true at all. Now, Jennie and Keith were both very involved in the church because actually both of them were pastors. Oh wow. So they hoped that it would be kind of a new beginning for their nephew, but like I said, it wasn't. He was still up to the same disturbing things and this time he just made time to show his face at church to like keep up appearances, I guess. Now on one occasion, he was going to be driving a couple of the church members to a soup kitchen. And one of the passengers that he was going to be driving was Melissa Bridges. She was 15 at the time. Now, Kown picked her up first and as soon as she got in the car she noticed that he wasn't really

dressed properly to be like heading to the soup kitchen. He was wearing dirty overalls that were stained with paint and he himself was like covered in paint. I guess he maybe was just doing one of his odd jobs or whatever. And he told her he just had to stop home, shower, get changed, and they would be on their way to pick up another person. No.

Which, no. No. And she was probably like, yeah, dude, like why didn't you do that before? Yeah, I think it's very cute. But at this point, she's already in the car, he's already driving what she's gonna do. And she was probably like, yeah, dude, like, why didn't you do that before? Yeah, I think it's very cute. But at this point, she's already in the car, he's already driving what she's gonna do. And she's 15.

And she's 15. So he drives her into the middle of nowhere, and where he's staying. They both head in, he takes a shower, she's just like waiting, like, get me the fuck out of here, probably really freaked out. And this piece of what lettuce comes out of the shower

after dousing himself in cologne, only wearing a towel, pushes her against a table and is grabbing her, trying to kiss her and like, like, groping her. Ew. Now by the way, at this point, he's in his 40s. I was just gonna say how old is he? He's in his 40s at this point. And again, she's 15.

Terror. But nonetheless, this 15 year old is a badass B. She need him in the balls and was able to make a break out the front door. She called one of her friends from school and the girl came to pick her up. Amazing. And she like got out of there instantly.

Wow. I caught. And I caught. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good Icon. Good. So this wasn't the only shady thing that he was doing while he was showing face at church because there were rumors that he was paying and bribing young men for sex acts. There was another girl that he had apparently been assaulting and abusing for a period of

time. Women he dated actually came forward later on about their sex lives, telling authorities that he specifically wanted to only role play kidnapping and rape scenarios. Yeah, no. And these women were providing them with more information about Cowan's online presence. Now, he was using a ton of different dating sites,

both for gay and straight people, using the same like online names sexual deviant. Oh I mean just put it all up there and he was describing all these fantasies of his like oh on those sites all including really heinous and ludes scenarios and they said that he regularly viewed pornography that was really darker in nature including bestiality. So he's just like really messed up and like essentially almost every way that you can get up and I tried to find anything about his childhood that said like head injury or like abuse something to point to something went wrong obviously but clearly couldn't

find anything. Wow. No idea. Wow. So all that's going on in the mid to late 90s, and then Cowan meets this woman named Tracey Mon- Mon- Mon- Mon- Mon- Mon- Mon-

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Oh, it's going to seem like. Now that I think of it. I was gonna say this is the past. Yeah. Now flash forward to December of 2003. The police show up at Tracy and Brett's house and beer wash to ask some questions. Oh my God, I said beer wash, it's beer wash. Beer wash?

I keep wanting to say wash. I had to get auto corrected too. We're gonna wash some beer. We'd like to wash them there with you, Tracy and Brett. No, they were questions. And because of Brett's previous convictions and the fact that a man matching his description was seen in the area, they had a strong feeling like maybe he had something to do with this. He was like, what's going on?

He was doing that day. Yeah. Let's start there. Let's just go with this. Now according to Callan, yes, he had driven in the area that day, even passed by the bus stop, but he didn't stop and abduct a boy. He was out doing work in his guard after that, and then he called his friend Frank

to see if he could borrow his mulcher. You know Frank. Yeah, Frank Davis over there. Yeah, Frank down the road. I need his mulcher. With the mulcher? Yeah. But everybody's just like borrowin' after.

They're like, oh, I guess. I guess. I guess he really did borrow the mulcher. Yeah. So he said that he left around he really did borrow the mulcher. Yeah. So he said that he left around 1250 to borrow that mulcher, which what is a mulcher? And then that's how you mulch.

I guess so. And then he said, so yeah, he leaves at 1250 and then he's back around 245 to 330. Big chunk of time. Yeah, and it's like, so did he go get the mulcher? He's saying that amount of time was what it took to get the mulcher. Yeah, he said, like, so did he go get the mulch or he's saying that amount of time was what it took to get. Yeah, he said, I left around 1250 to get the mulch or and I came

back around 245 or 330. Yeah. Yeah. So what did you and Frank do? Did you have some tea? Oh, well, just wait. So now I just punched my fucking microphone. So Tracy told the authorities that on the morning of December

7th, she'd gone to church by herself. Her husband was not attending regularly anymore. Shocked. She said she came home, she made lunch for her and her, in her man's. She settled the baby because her remember he has a fucking baby who's like basically an infant. Wow, that's horrific.

Mm-hmm. And then she confirmed that he left. She said it was around 1 p.m. to borrow that mulcher. And she said he didn't come home until about 240 or 3. Oh, okay. So she tightened up that time a little bit. She tightened that up. But still, she wasn't sure because he didn't come inside.

He just went right outside to do his mulching. Now she later told them that her husband also had a particular way of standing. I'm sure they like asked her about it. And she said that he usually stood if he was leaning up against something, he would put one foot up against the wall. Huh. Kind of like the guy that was standing behind Daniel. Yeah.

Now the police also asked the family about the family cars. And Tracy told them that the only car they had at the time was a white Mitsubishi. Mitsubishi. So hard to say. It is hard to say. Which is interesting because 84 eyewitness accounts involved a blue sedan near where Daniel disappeared. Like everyone was pointing that car out. Now someone who was heavily looked at in the investigation that did have a blue sedan was a man named Douglas Brian Jackway,

another three named monster. Three names. Hello. Always. Now this guy's name. This guy's nasty. I'm not going to get like super into him because he's for another day I guess oh boy he had spent almost all of his adult life except for three months in prison for Violent sexually motivated crimes against children. Oh Including trigger warning the rape of his own sister. Oh god. It's you. What? That's so there's so many things wrong with that. I can't even... Or, poor girl.

Like, that's terrible. Now, at the time of Daniel's disappearance, he was out of prison. He had been let out, I believe, a month before Daniel's disappearance. Yeah, there it is in my notes. Oh. Oh.

And unfortunately, a lot of effort was put into investigating him, but he wasn't he wasn't the guy. And I get why they leaned into that really hard. Absolutely. I mean, he's in the area everyone saying they saw his car, but it turns out that his car was in the area of the day after Daniel disappeared. It had like broken down and he was doing some work on it. Oh, so maybe because again, I witness testimony. It's not that. So flawed. Right.

So flawed, right? People mean well, but our brains are funny. Yeah, I mean, I could say like yesterday I saw this car, but really it could have been like the day before yesterday. Oh yeah, like I can't remember anything. And that would be the most piss-poor I witness. No, they'd be like, what, I think we've talked about this like a lot recently, cause I like, what do you have for breakfast?

I don't know. I'd be like, I did I have breakfast Sunday after no idea. Right, exactly. So even though Brett Peter Cowan didn't own a blue sedan, there were all several ports about a white sedan in the area too. And for some reason they decided to survey the cars at the Christian Outreach Center,

which is, it's a good thing that they did. It just seems like I've seemed a little random to me. Yeah, like all right. Nearby. I'm like, I don't know why we think someone at church did it, but thing that they did. It just seemed a little random to me. Yeah, like, all right. Nearby. I'm like, I don't know why we think someone at church did it, but I guess they did. And his white mitzu bishi was noted. So that's why we did it.

OK. Now when they went out to ask him and Tracy, the questions that day, they also were able to search and run some tests on that car. No blood was detected. None of the fingerprints in the car matched Daniels. And there was hair collected, but at the time the testing that they would have done on the hair wasn't really reliable and it hadn't gone as far as it would.

And when it did come around around like 2008, they were able to compare the hair found in the car to two to hair found from two of Daniel's old baseball caps, but the findings were inconclusive hair Evidence is another one of those it's tricky tricky things because I think we talked about it in the Julia Wallace case Like a lot of times it's like my piece of hair could be like the same as like six other people Yeah, in the area. It's one of those Sciences that has slowly become less and less reliable. I wonder if they'll ever do like anything. Yeah, about that.

I don't know. I don't know. So with not much to go on because they didn't have any physical evidence at all, the case went cold for a while. And the rewards were offered, the rewards offered eventually went up to a million dollars, which at the time was the highest reward offered in Queensland history. Wow. So now it's May of 2009, and the Work Home Family had a full-sized model put together of

one suspect in the case, like based off of all the eyewitness accounts. Now, I'll post a picture of it. It's bananas and it looks just like Brett Peter Cowan. You should definitely Google it. I'm definitely going to Google it. So the man had shaggy, longish brown hair, a goatee. He was wearing dark clothing.

And Tracy later testified that Brett Peter a Brett Peter Cowan had longer hair at that point in time and a goatee. Now, when the model was made and like put up, more tips were coming in. More information was being related to the police, including information coming from criminals in the area who were saying they knew who killed Daniel. Now, by October 2010, is it coronial inquest? The coroner's inquest? Yeah, it's coronial, coronial. An inquest was opened up. I just know coroner's inquest. I don't know how you say it. It's a little bit. Yeah, but an inquest was opened at the request of the morcom family. And the purpose of the inquest was to bring all the witnesses

together, interview again anyone who had information and to question potential suspects. Now the bus driver who passed Daniel was actually there and questioned, and he said he did in fact see Daniel waving him down, but he was running late, so he ignored him. Nice. Nice.

Also, like that's not your job. Yeah, exactly. Your job is to pick up whoever is at the stops where you're supposed to get up. I love that. I just ignored him. Nice. Like a 10-year-old boy. Okay. Very cool. Excuse me, a 13-year-old boy.

Very cool. Nice. Now, the Inquest also involved bringing Brett Peter Cowan in to ask more questions, and here's a quote from the findings, which I found online, and I will post the link to the Inquest in the notes. Oh sweet. Because, whoa baby. We love an Inquest. So here's the quote, quote, Mr. Cowan was called to give evidence on days 18 and 19 of the Inquest on the 31st March and the 1st of April 2011. His evidence at the Inquest confirmed that his version of events about his movements

on the day Daniel disappeared was impolosible. Subsequently, the police investigation focused on him as the main person of interest. Wow. Yeah. Wow. Now, during the Inquest, one of the main focuses was that there was that like 45 minutes of time that was unaccounted for. Yeah.

Now, in 2003, Brett hadn't mentioned that he was stopping at his drug dealer's house to pick up some weed during that time. Oh. Now he remembered that like three years later in 2006. Impressive. I know, huh? Good memory.

And he remembered that because like the phone records determined that his timeline was super off. Oh, so suddenly his memory got very clear. He's like, well, my timeline was off because of that. Oh, yeah. Because what happened was he was supposed to have made a call after he had left the house, but he would have like,

still been in the house during that time period. So they were just like, that doesn't make sense. What happened? We proved you wrong. Yeah. You know what? That's smart to like put your to still admit to an infraction Mm-hmm, but just a lesser one to see why would I lie? Yeah, I'm telling you the truth about this

And now that you say that I feel like that kind of happens a lot in these situations They're like oh, I didn't abduct that boy. I was just on my way to buy a new gun that yeah, I'm not licensed to have like Sure, that's because they they're never, I was on my way to go grocery shopping. I asked you some puppies that I heard were teetering over a ledge in a bus full of orphans. So like, they're never doing that. They're always just like, you know what, you know what, police officers, I'm gonna come clean.

You got me. I'll come clean. I was going to buy some weed. Sorry. My bad, sorry. What's the mean? But abducting children absolutely not. No, no, no, no. I'm telling you the truth about the weed. Sorry, my bad. Sorry. What's the mean? But abducting children absolutely not. No, no, no, I'm telling you the truth about the weed. I'm reformed. I live about that. I am reformed. It's like one of those things

where they think they're smarter because they're like, oh, this will work. I'm like a criminal mastermind. Yeah, it doesn't work. When the police contacted that woman Sandra, or yeah, Sandra Drummond to be like, was that was that for real like did he stop? She was like number one that was like so many years ago. Yeah, why would I don't know? But she was like so she couldn't remember she was like yeah He did buy weed for me on occasion, but I don't remember him being there that specific way Yeah, and her boyfriend at the time Kevin Fitzgerald said Because Brett also said that he like showed them his mulcher, which I don't know, it's not even yours to show off, but okay, show

me your mulcher, I'll show you. Weird flex, okay. But Kevin Fitzgerald said that he would have remembered if Brett showed him a mulcher. It was like, I would have remembered that. Okay. I know a good mulcher what I see. I would have remembered that. Okay, I know a good mulcher when I see one. I would have remembered that. I would have remembered that.

And then they also said that they used to go to like on Sundays, they would go to like where her daughter worked. So they were like, I don't know, like it doesn't sound like that would have happened. But the police were like, okay, neither of you are credible. Bye. Take the like, thank you so much for your help. Yes. We'll give you a call later.

Goodbye. So now we have Brett Peter Cowan as the main person of interest, but how are they gonna get him on this? Yeah. So they set up an undercover sting called Mr. Big Operation. Mr. Big Operation? Yes. Which is this particular sting isn't Mr. Big itself. Mr. Big Operations happen all, which is, this particular sting isn't Mr. Big itself. Like Mr. Big Operations happened all the time. Oh, okay.

So according to the Conversations article on the Mr. Big technique that I will also link in the show notes, quote, in Mr. Big Operations, law enforcement personnel essentially do the reverse of a normal covert operation. They create the criminal group or enterprise and insert that target into the group.

The group members form social bonds with the target and gain their confidence through the inclusion of the target in a criminal enterprise relationship. So essentially the police are acting as undercover people, their undercover cops acting as criminals, and they're bringing Brett into their criminal family to kind of like get him to get him to a reputation. Okay. So in this case, a group of undercover cops got Brett Peter Cowan involved in what he didn't know was a fake drug ring. They were doing drug deals.

They were doing debt collections. They were working on pimping deals, selling weapons, essentially all the illegal things that you could possibly imagine. All the illegal things. They were pretending to do. And Cowan was working right along with them, thinking the whole thing was very real. Now to stay connected in the ring and to make sure that he was taken care of,

he had to tell them about anything shady from his past that happened. And he had told them different things from his past, obviously, because his entire past is shady. And there were mubblings that maybe he was involved in the Daniel Moirko murder, but they needed a straight-up confession. So they set up this staying in a hotel room and captured the entire thing on camera. They basically said, like, if we're going to take care of you and you're going to work for us, you have to be honest with us about everything from your past. And if you killed that kid, we need to know so that we can take care of it. Wow. Bananas. Wow. Immediately. Cowan confessed and said that he offered Daniel a ride to the sunshine

plaza, but instead took him to this property in the middle of nowhere with a demountable house, which is like you can kind of like move it anywhere. And he said he offered him a drink of water and then immediately tried to take his pants off and assault him. He said that Daniel said like, oh no, and he started to freak out, so Brett Peter Cohen started to choke him. And when he was done, he undressed Daniel and disposed of his body in the brush around the glass house mountains. Wow. Yeah. Now, that may very well be true,

but it's widely suspected that he did in fact assault Daniel at one point in time because Daniel's body was undressed when he disposed of it. And when Daniel's pants were later found at a separate location, his belt wasn't going through the loops properly. Oh, okay. And his parents just said like, we can't put our heads there. found at a separate location, his belt wasn't going through the loops properly. And his parents just said, we can't put our heads there.

I do not blame them on any level. Exactly. You know what you know. He did it and he's going away forever. I don't need to know anything else. Now, the fake crime ring tells Colin that he needs to take them to where Daniel's body was disposed of because they need to make sure that there's no traceable evidence out there. This is brilliant.

It's, there's like another, it's a 60 minutes from Australia that I'll link and like they reenact it and even just the reenactment you're hyped. Oh my god, this is like brilliant. It's crazy. And they're like, if there's traceable evidence, it's gonna take us all down. So we gotta get rid of it for you. Like this is us helping you, helping us. See where on your side now, man.

Mm-hmm. So, oh my God, it's incredible. So he takes them all down there, but really, once he takes them to the embankment, another set of cops are there to arrest him. Now the day was August 13th, 2011, eight years since Daniel had been murdered. Wow.

Eight years. Now, Cowan was charged with child stealing, deprivation of liberty, and decent treatment of a child under 16 and interfering with the corpse. And in August of that same year, two shoes and three human bones were found where Cowan had unknowingly led the investigators. Wow.

Now, both were forensically tested and confirmed to be Daniel Warcombe's, unfortunately. So they didn't even find all of them? They didn't find all of them. I mean, it had been eight years. Eight years. And we're Australia animals. Exactly. And he disposed of him in like a very like a a city area. Yeah, it's like in the mountains. Yeah. Now, Cowan actually pleaded not guilty, which is like,

I don't know how after all like we have you saying that you are guilty, but okay. But okay. Good try. But he was found guilty on all charges and was sentenced to life in prison with possible parole in 20 years. But the judge, Rosalind Atkinson told him, quote, wherever anyone is, or excuse me, whenever anyone is considering the prospect of granting you parole in the future, they should mark my words that you are convincing, plausible, and an adaptable liar. Yes. So he is. That's what his whole life has been. Literally lying. He said that he probably molested upwards of 30 boys. That's disgusting. 30. Oh my god. I literally want to light this guy on fire. Yeah. And it doesn't sound like Brett is doing too well in prison either. No. No, no. Well, we know how how it goes when you're like

Oh the hierarchy. Yeah, exactly. If you're responsible for molesting children, you're not gonna do well in prison And you're also disgusting But in 2016 a fellow inmate named Adam Paul Davidson poured boiling water from a mop bucket over Brett Peter Cowan's head while he was playing cards with some other inmates. So Brett's there like you got any threes go fish and he gets fucking oh I made mop of boiling water thrown over his head and then the guy I thought article that I read it said that he struck him with the mop bucket afterwards. Which I would never, ever laugh if this was about anybody else, but the fact that it's about this monster, I'm like good. This guy is playing crazy eights.

I just can't say nasty ass mop bucket. Literally. Literally. And then when they asked the guy who did it, Adam Paul Davidson, they were like, why, why do you do that? He guy who did it, the Adam Paul Davidson, they were like, why do you do that? He said he did it for Daniel. He said it was like a vigilante act on Daniel's part. And he said, he went on to say,

quote, he had it coming. He's a fucking grub. Oh my God. Also, can we start calling people grubs? A fucking grub. No, that's not it. Dude, I'm so for that. You don't have to be for that, but I'm for that.

No, I'm for that. Don't come on me. Anyone that. You don't have to be for that, but I'm for that. No, I'm for that. Like, I'm, don't, don't come on. Anyone listening, you don't have to be for that. You don't have to be for that. But also, don't be mad at us for being for that. This guy, like, molested upwards of four years. Oh, yeah, no, I want to apologize. Child molesters definitely deserve to have my buckets launched at their head. Agreed. At the very least.

Yes. Now, he was hospitalized and he had burns to 15% of his body, including his hand, yes, excuse me, hands, head, face, chest, and legs. So he was like, you got fucked up. He got got. He got got. And then in 2018, another inmate used some kind of like homemade

tool to stab him. A shank. A shankling. Yeah, I was going to say it. But in the ear or the neck, the ear and the neck. So he was stabbed, but unfortunately the injuries were really superficial. And one of the people reporting said that there wasn't even blood. So I think it was kind of just like a failed attempt.

And it was probably just like a scare tactic. Yeah. Like a hey, your gross. Yeah, I'm excited to have you in the ear. Yeah, like a hey your gross. Yeah, I tried to stab you in the ear. Yeah, pretty much But on the family's end, there's at least some good that came from this tragedy Denise and Bruce were able to lay their son to rest on the ninth anniversary of his disappearance So that was December 12 excuse me December 7th 2012

2,000 people attended Daniel's funeral, which took place at Sienna Catholic Church. Australia. 2,000 people. And now this will destroy you. His parents say that they had two lives. One before everything happened and one after day. Oh my God. Like they were like that happened first. They're so understandable.

We live another life. Yeah. Like those, because you can't just be like, well, we just move forward. You know, like it's, there does need to be a dividing line. Like, you know, before this, after this kind of thing. Like it is a different way of living.

It's like a healthy way of processing. That is a very healthy way of processing it. Because it's not like shoving it off to the side. It's not burying. No. But it's also not letting it like swallow you whole. Yeah, it's just kind of recognizing it for what it is. Yeah. So they actually also set up the Daniel Morcombe Foundation in 2005. Well, he was still missing and they didn't have answers. Yeah. Oh, God. They set that foundation up with their sons Bradley and Dean. And the goal of the organization is to, obviously, prevent this from happening to any other child to offer resources, education,

and counseling for victims who have dealt with anything similar to this. We have said this before, like with Molly Bish, we were talking about it. I have so much, like, respect isn't even the word. It's like admiration. Adoration. It's just like, ah,, just like complete and aww.

Yup. Families who, when this goes on instead of just going and getting a bed forever, which they could absolutely do. I was gonna say. No one would be mad. Instead, they turn around and they're like, I'm not only going to make something good out of this for my child, but I'm going to make it so this never happens to another family.

Exactly. And they did it when they didn't even know if he was alive or dead or what was going on with him. Yeah. Like they were doing that in the midst of a grief that I can't even fathom. And to just make that the rest of your life is like you said, like very outweigh the other people, make sure that they never have to feel the pain that you feel. Yeah, and I can imagine that.

So selfless. That work would be really triggering at times, you know? Yeah. So that says a lot about them. And the foundation actually got so much attention and grew so quickly that they needed a separate space for it outside of their house. So they got a house for the foundation,

which is now called Daniel's house. Stop. And it's actually located really close by to the bus stop where it is here. Really? Yeah. Wow. Now there's also a day for Daniel where people are encouraged to wear red, the same color shirt that Daniel was wearing when he went missing.

And day for Daniel is Australia's largest child safety education and awareness day. Oh. And it's held on the last Friday of October every year. My God, good on you guys. And the whole goal for Day of Daniel is that parents, caretakers, and educators are encouraged to start a conversation with some young people about safety.

Yeah, because that's all you can do. Yeah. As a parent or a guardian or somebody who loves a child, that's, you can't control what happens after you tell them. All you can do is try to give them the information and try to, like I always tell the girls, you know, no adult needs your help. Don't never, don't ever fall for that.

And two, no one's ever gonna come pick you up. I'm never gonna send someone to pick you up that you don't know. Except you do. It's always gonna be T.T. It's gonna be mom, dad, or grandparents. Yep. Like, no one else.

If somebody, I always say if somebody tells you, your mommy or daddy sent me around, your mommy or daddy friend, I was like, I don't have any friends. So don't believe them. My only friend is T.T. I have no friends. No one's coming to get you.

I love it. But it's important, but again, that's the only power you hold as someone who loves a child or takes care of a child is to just try to give them all the information. Yeah. And then you just got to hope that it works. Hope that sticks. You know, and it's like, if it doesn't, you know, you've done your job.

Yeah. Exactly. But that's all you can do. So good on them for like spreading that. Yeah, I think that's like the most important thing that you can possibly do. And then just to end this on like a super duper light note, like we're guarding the happiness surrounding the family, Bruce and Denise is on Dean,

actually welcomed a baby daughter into the world last year. Last year? And guess what? It was on the day for Daniel. Stop. Yes. Stop. Like tell me that wasn't from Daniel.

No, that was 100 percent from Daniel. I'm such a believer in like, I'm not like super, I'm not religious at all, but I believe in like the universe. Yeah. And I think that that totally, things like that. I feel like, yeah. Like he was there. Those things just make you like, all right. Yeah. Especially people you loved and cared for,

I feel like they're always around in some way to perform. So if that to me is like on 365 days of the year, right. That's the day. Right. I mean, you can't plan that. No, it's not like that's insane And there's a freaking picture of Bruce and Denise holding this little baby. Oh my god. You showed me this picture I number one I die because it's just so cute And like they are the most adorable people in the world. And they're so happy. They're so happy. And this, I mean, in general, Daniel looked so much like his father, but this specific picture,

like, identical, those colors. Yeah, and they have like the kindest, the kindest, big blue eyes. They do, because we were saying how cute Daniel was. Like the little baby face. And his dad Bruce, he has that same face. He does. He still has a baby face.

He does. A very kind face. And I feel like that is exactly what Daniel had. Yeah. So I'm telling you guys, the picture will like melt your heart. Oh my goodness. I'm just so happy for them. I'm so happy for them.

And I'm so happy for them too. And I'm so happy for his siblings, his brothers too. Yeah. Oh, and another thing that I meant to mention, while Daniel was missing, they still set a plate for him every single night. And like, just I can't break my heart. I can't.

Oh, they seem like such a good family and such good parents. They do. And honestly, I really, really suggest that you go read the book, Where is Daniel, because it was written by Denise and Bruce with the help of another friend. So, yeah, go read it. Go read it.

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