Morbid - Episode 226: Tyler Hadley (Redo!)

Episode Date: April 19, 2021

Tyler Hadley was 17 years old when he decided to bludgeon his parents and then throw the rager of a lifetime (in his eyes.) Close to a hundred people attended this party not knowing that in a separate locked bedroom down the hall, the bodies of Mary Jo and Blake Hadley were laying under a hodgepodge of household items. We redid this case to offer some new information and woah, somehow it’s even more disturbing the second time around.  BUT to lighten some of the darkest moments, we have added in clips from the original episode because we could never replace the original "FA SHO!!" ;) A Thousand Fireflies by Ryan Hadley See How Much You Love Me by Amber Hunt Tyler Hadley's Killer Party by Nathaniel Rich for Rolling Stone HelloFresh: Go to HelloFresh.com/morbid12 and use code morbid12 for twelve free meals, including free shipping! Better help: This podcast is sponsored by BetterHelp and Morbid: A True Crime Podcast listeners get 10% off their first month at betterhelp.com/Morbid Careof: For 50% off your first Care/of order, go to TakeCareOf.com/morbid50 and enter code morbid50 ChiliTechnology: Head over to chilisleep.com/morbid for ChiliSleep’s best deal, available to Morbid listeners for a limited time!  ThirdLove: Go to THIRDLOVE.com/MORBID now to find your perfect-fitting bra… and get 20% off your first purchase! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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When I go to the club. So, when I go to the club. So, then I go to the club. You know what, that's the perfect beginning to this episode because we, this is like the John Mulaney Fashot case. It is, we're redoing it, we're spicing it up. So we're gonna be redoing the Tyler Hadley case.

And we're gonna do it a little differently than I did like the Los Feliz Murder House case. That one I just kinda like, re-did completely, you know, nothing from the old episode really came into the new one. It was a fresh track. Totally fresh track. Well, this one's gonna be, I've added a ton of information

because let me tell you, I looked up and I heard research and I was a good job you, except you missed a lot of things. Like when I did research this time, I was like, I found a lot more stuff. Well, you get better at it. It's like, we're vets now. Well, no, it's actually been kind of fun to see the growth and research,

like knowing how to research properly now, like you know, I mean, like to get as many things as you can and like find these little fun details, not fun details that you want to put in. And it's the things that you miss the first time around. So when you go back over it, it's kind of fun to be like, oh shit, it's like a little gemstone. A little hidden treasure. So I'm going to basically do it completely over because I think I can tell the story a

little better, but because there was so many good parts of the original episode You cannot get rid of the fun that show We can't get rid of that so many years I thought it would be kind of fun that I will just splice in the audio from the old episode I'm gonna tell you when it's coming so you're not just gonna be like, well, I'm just gonna be like boom underwater No, I'm gonna be like hey, and coming. So you're not just gonna be like, what's up, just gonna be like boom, underwater. No, I'm gonna be like, hey, and here's the part from the old episode.

So you can kinda see like how different we've, you know, how it's evolved. So I think it'll be kinda fun. So let's do it. Okay, are you ready? I am. So we're talking about the Tyler Hadley case. This is the case, if you remember correctly of the asshole who killed his parents

and then had a house party with their body still in the house. With like shit stacked all over them. Oh yeah, don't worry, we'll get to that. So we're going to talk about the two victims first, his parents. Blake and Mary Jo Hadley. They moved to St. Port Lucy, Florida over 20 years before the incident. They wanted to be close to Blake's retired parents and they were. They lived right around the corner from them. The whole family was like very close as we'll see like the grandparents and the parents big happy family. Okay. Blake grew up in Florida. His whole life, he was called a gentle giant because he was like over six feet

and like 300 pounds. He was like a big dude. Love it. He was called a gentle giant who never had any unkind word to say to anyone. Stop. And that is like in every source I saw. Everyone who knew him was like literally had not a bad bone in his body. Heart of gold.

People said he was just always smiling, always happy. He loved his family. In fact, most people said the one thing that he was really always smiling, always happy. He loved his family. In fact, most people said the one thing that he was really bad at was disciplining his kids. Because he probably didn't want to. He said he literally wasn't good at it because he couldn't discipline. He said he couldn't get mad and be stern.

Yeah, you just love them too much. So he ended up not being the discipline. And they said that's literally the only thing that Mary Jo and Blake would ever even get slightly aggravated at each other about because Mary Jo ended up having to be like, kind of a stoner one. Good cop bad cop.

But even that, they said neither one of them were very good at it. Like they were both too sweet and loved their kids so much that they had trouble disciplining them. So, but yeah, so these are the kind of people we're talking about. Tyler's friends actually all said he was a big goofball. They all loved him.

They thought he was great. They said he constantly sang at random times. Like he was just randomly starting like, yeah, like just starts singing, which I do all the time. Yeah, I do that too. So I feel that and he also was a big movie quoter. So he would just like come up. Yeah, he'd just come up behind them and like quote the Terminator movie or something. I got to know what's her so big. Which I think everybody knew a dad like that growing up.

Yes. Like a goofball dad that was just like always making jokes and like being a weirdo and you were like, that dad's awesome. Yeah. He was that dad. So Blake ended up being coming a watch engineer at St. Lucie's nuclear power plant for 30 plus years. Wow. Yeah. He was 54 at the time of this incident. 47-year-old Mary Jo was born in Bratic, Pennsylvania, but her family moved to Fort Lauderdale when she was in high school.

This is where she met Blake in Florida. Love that. She was very well liked her whole life, considered when she was in high school. This is where she met Blake and for a lot of it. She was very well liked her whole life considered the popular girl in high school but was also described as like the really kind popular girl. Right. Like that rare breed. Yeah.

So she was just like Blake. People who worked with her later said she was also hilarious. They said she had a very quick, very dry sense of humor. When they met each other, they fell in love right away. I love love. People said it was their constant smiles, their sense of humor, that just made them like the perfect match. Even though everyone said they looked so different because he was like this huge guy and she's like this tiny little set, like it just looked so funny, but they

just matched perfectly. When they got married, he wore a powder blue suit. Yes, right? Right. And the families were really cool with each other too. Later after this after the murders Maurice Hadley Blake's father said Mary Jo was the best daughter-in-law he could have ever imagined. Oh, break my heart. So these families like truly loved each other. When they built their home in St. Lucie, they joined the Catholic Church there and they attended for 25 years. They took their kids to church every Sunday. They were both altar boys. The Mary Jo would do like readings at church. They were very into it. Not like they weren't like strict about it, but the

only thing they were strict about was that those boys went to church every Sunday. Okay. That's like pretty normal for a lot of families. I think it's like a pretty good, if that's what you believe in, like why not? A lot of my friends, like I remember like we would not hang on on Sunday mornings because they'd be a church.

I mean, it's good to instill, if that's what you believe in, you know, whatever you believe in, I think it's good to instill like a sense of like, and it's like a routine, it's like a responsibility almost, like every Sunday, you know, you have to do this. I think it's like a good lesson to teach people, you know, I might not, I might not be religious, but I get it.

Yeah, understand it, to a degree. She was an elementary school teacher, and a friend of Tyler's who had also been Mary Jo's student teacher said, no matter who who you were even if she didn't like you She would never give up on you. Oh, and everyone who worked with her said she was just an amazing teacher. Amazing person So these two were just angels on earth which I was just looking at pictures of them all you were describing them Like the guy reminds me a papa. He does right? He really does The guy reminds me of Papa. Blake does, right?

He really does. He's ready to like shatter. No, with their love. I'm not. Mary Jo had the same email for like decades, and it was the first email she made when they first got together. The email, and it was still her email the day she was murdered. Her email was ILBH412 for I love Blake Hadley.

And then their anniversary. Shut the fuck up. That's how cute they are. Oh my God. Yeah, ruined me. And together they had two sons, Ryan and Tyler. They were 23 and 17 years old when this occurred. They were both by all accounts of very loving family,

very normal. Like I said, went to church every Sunday. You know, nothing crazy. Tyler, however, was troubled. He had fallen in pretty quickly with a bad drug and alcohol pattern as a teen. So he was butting heads with his parents. Right. But this all kind of came out of, you know, he was born December 16 to 1993 and he was born premature. So I think the drug and alcohol thing, like the him leaning into that later, had to do with the fact that he had a lot of health issues

and like mental health issues right from the jump. Okay. So that I won't, like, you know, that just kinda happened. It just kinda went hand in hand. Unfortunately, obviously, plenty of people do that and don't do what he did. So, but he was born premature, weighing only three pounds and 10 ounces.

Wow, that's a tiny little bee. Yeah, he had to stay in the NICU, you know, that NICU situation for like a whole month. Doctors had to induce labor a month early for his mom because she had a very difficult pregnancy with him. Oh, no. So like right off the jump, he's going through it. Yeah. Now, family members So like right off the jump, he's going through it. Yeah. Now family members said he was very sweet. A lot of them said he was very sweet, very polite, but they said he was very withdrawn.

And he was like very strange, but they couldn't put their finger on it. Okay. They also said he had a lot of belts of depression, a lot of anxiety. He also had eating issues. Right from the jump, he was very obsessed with his weight. Huh. Which a lot of his

family were like, I just had not seen that with like a young boy as much. Yeah, I mean, it's a, it seems more rare, maybe because it's not as publicized. But he was very obsessed with like being fat. He didn't want to be fat, quote unquote. And I think like one, it was one of his doctors has, had said when he was younger that he was sturdy Yeah, that's how he described it, which is not like that's not fun insult But he took it as like I'm too big oh And he got like obsessed with it. So he did have eating disorders. He was like bulimic for a while He had a ton he had like thyroid issues. He had like a lot. Yeah, I'm going on as he was growing up. Yeah

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Now, he had a lot of self-esteem issues, obviously, listen ad free on the Amazon music or Wonder App. Now, he had a lot of self-esteem issues, obviously, as a result of all this, and they leaked into everything he did. He never played any sport for too long or did any activity for too long because he would suddenly just decide, I suck at this. I'm not good at this.

And he was like painfully shy. Oh. So, yeah, he just, he had a rough go-to time. A tough time. As a kid in Adeliscent, he really kept going through a ton of health issues, a lot of mental health issues, that were being treated with counseling and medication. He was not being ignored, he was not being neglected.

Right. In fact, his parents did everything they could. They don't seem like the type of people that would just like, like, be like, okay, like the way. Yeah, like deal with it whenever. No, and his mother in particular was like, I think just because, and I imagine like going through

that kind of traumatic pregnancy in-verse is going to attach you to that baby a little more, like you're gonna feel like you need to protect him, you know, and I think she felt that way. Yeah. Because she would get very upset when like people would like, tease him when he was younger,

or she just like, she wanted to do everything she could to make him feel like he was, you know, tough, and that he, she just seemed like she really dote it on him. She's a mama bear. She was being, yeah, like a real mama bear. And weirdly enough, they were very close. Like, you know, I know. I know.

I know. They were like, they were very affectionate, not a weird way, but a mom and son were like. And had a good bond. Yeah. He would sit on her lap when he was even a little older and give her hugs. They said even weeks before this that somebody noticed that he was sitting next to her on the couch and he just leaned over on her. Which is a small show. When you know what it's coming.

Because it's like such a small show of affection, like your mom, you know, or like somebody you love or like who takes care of you, you just like lean into them sometimes when you need a moment. Yeah. And then it's like to think what happened. Yeah.

Yeah. Especially you said a couple weeks before the incident. Yeah. And it's, when you find out what happens and when you find out like what the quote unquote motive was, you're like something big is off. Well, I think it's the mental health aspect of everything. Well, I think it's the mental health aspect of everything.

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Yeah. That's when you become a teenager. Yeah. So he was vandalizing cars and property. He was stealing things. He was lighting fires and breaking windows. Just being a dick. Yeah. I never did any of that. Yeah. He also really liked that lighting fires thing. He liked to light fires and then watch like an entire like a lot of trees burn. Yeah. That's that'll tell you something. Yeah. And he was very young. He was actually this young like 12 13 14 when he started using acid pills drinking hard. Yeah. Tyler was not popular in school, but he was not not popular. He just kind of was there. His group just kind of like wasn't. Yeah, and he wasn't really well known at all. Like, a lot of kids at this infamous party that happens didn't know him and couldn't even point him out,

but they went to school with him. Yeah. So he was just a bit strange. She would play pranks a lot if you knew him, but then if you didn't know him, he was very quiet and very like withdrawn. He was also everyone, including his own brother, called him a pathological liar. Yikes. So there's that.

And at one point, Tyler and his friends legit lit the River Park Wildlife Preserve on fire. Oh shit! They dragged a couch. I forgot about this. I know that you're saying that it happened. Yeah, that happened. They dragged a couch into a clearing, doused it with gasoline and lit it on fire, and they got off with a warning.

In a wildlife preserve. Yes. I mean, that's fucked up. Yeah. That's a wildlife preserve. What. I mean, that's fucked up. Yeah. That's a wildlife preserve. What are you doing? Yeah. That bums me. I don't like that.

They got off with a warning. And then 10 weeks before this party that happened, Tyler was arrested on a charge of aggravated battery. Jesus. He got into a fight at a friend's party apparently. And because he had a pair, also previously been convicted of burglary, he was sentenced to a week at the county jail and two weeks of house arrest after that.

Damn. And during this time, his mom took his cell phone. Yeah. Which became a big source of contention. I remember that. Now in June, Mary Jo actually had Tyler sectioned to a mental health facility. Okay. He came home insanely drunk, I guess, and he was under the age of 18 at the time, so they could do this. And basically, they said, and his brother said to that they did this because they were afraid he was going to hurt himself. Yeah. He made a lot of very casual comments about suicide. He talked about it a lot. He made a lot of very casual comments about suicide. He talked about it a lot. And I think it got to a head here.

And we're worried. So yeah, so they were worried about it. Now he was treated there for depression, low self-esteem, and needing disorder. Okay. Two weeks before the party, Mary Jo said that things, he was telling friends like things are going really well. This is two weeks before the friends are getting better. Tyler is really making progress.

He was home, he still didn't have a cell phone, he was on like, he was grounded clearly. But a coworker's have said that like, she was coming back to herself because she was like really in a dark place. Yeah, that's a trial. And they said like, it really seemed like she was like, oh, I can breathe.

Well, the thing is, too, I think even, especially in a case like this, where he's struggled with mental health literally his entire life, I think you get a little more hopeful from small gestures than you would in a case where like somebody didn't struggle as much as he did. Oh, I would imagine.

So I think maybe she got a little too excited too quickly that he was doing better. You see any progress and you're like, it's done. And that's your child. So you're obviously looking on the bright side. Yeah, I can't even imagine. And being like, he's fixed everything's work going well. And I mean, it's good to look on, you know,

how she's just like, you know what? Yeah. He's making progress. So it's good. Nothing wrong with it. Well, the weekend before the party, Tyler, his dad, and his grandfather actually all went to a family reunion in Georgia.

Oh, yeah, I remember that. And his grandfather said, quote, I didn't see any indication there were any problems between Tyler and his parents. Which that's scary that he was just like, yeah, I don't like, I didn't see any warning signs. In fact, a night before the party, he went to dinner with his aunt and his whole family. And his aunt said, he acted just fine. There was no indication that there was any tension between them.

That's scary. Meanwhile, Tyler told someone later that at that dinner, all he could think about was that he wanted a murderous parents. That's bananas. But acting totally fine with that. Right. Like that is so dissociative. It's sociopathic. It is. So Tyler's friend Cameron actually ran into him that same night the night before.

And Tyler was like, yeah, I've just been a dinner with my family. And Cameron was like, oh, how is everyone in Tyler was like, oh, they're good. And then Cameron was like, oh, it's my birthday. And Tyler said, oh, that's awesome. Come over to my house tomorrow night. I'm throwing a party.

Right. So that night, that night, he was like, I'm gonna kill them. So I'm gonna have a party tomorrow. Like, he was totally calmly. And then we just went to dinner. Just the thought of like, I'm gonna kill them and have a party after. Like that whole mindset is just bonkers.

It becomes such a, it's a central part of this and it's just, that's his reasoning for this. His reasoning was I wanted to have a party. It's, it's a lot. But then it's like you think of a 17 year old boy that frontal lobe is not developed. And obviously we have drug and alcohol use and like crazy excess excess mental health issues.

This is just like it's a perfect storm. It's a pochet. Yeah. It's all bubbling in the cauldron. It truly is. And one of the newer things I found out this time around while researching that I was like, well, shit, why? During this time that all this was going on that the murders were occurring in such the

hadleys were actually being sued. Oh shit. In St. Lucie County for $15,000, you want to know why? Why? the murders were occurring in such, the hadlees were actually being sued. Oh, it's Shae-Lucey County. For $15,000, you wanna know why? Why? Tyler hit a child with his dad's truck. Oh. They didn't kill the child, but injured a child

hitting them with his truck and the family sued the hadlees. For, do you said $15,000? For $15,000. Wow. And it was in June 2010 that this happened. And the suit was filed in May of the next year and he was scheduled to get,

to give a deposition about it in August. Oh, shit. But obviously he didn't have to. Right. Like, could the, did any of that play into this? I wonder. Like that kind of the pressure that was going on there

made that financial strain. He was thinking he was going to have to give this deposition. Right. In his state, and I wonder two of the parents were kind of saying like you know like you put that on us. Yeah, I'm sure there was some time. I mean if I was a fucking parent, I'd be like you might get that. I'd be talking about it. So you just wonder if that was in his mind at all. Yeah. Because I didn't even know that was a thing before. It's like a set, another thing to add to the, and obviously, the bubbling cold drink.

And none of that is like justification. It's just, I wonder what is, I'm trying to figure out what's going through his brain a little bit. I bet that adds to it. I won't, it must add something to do. So when there's, you know, weeks before the murder, he was planning this.

As weeks. Clearly. Yeah. He had planned them for a. As weeks. Clearly. Yeah. He had planned them for a number of weeks, if not longer. So this was not just him snapping. That's his point. That's his point, annotated. It wasn't drugs.

It wasn't, you know, this, you know, just manic moment. Altered stays. Yeah. He was entitled. He didn't want to live by his parents' rules anymore. And he's just a homicidal asshole. Yeah. And in the end, and he surrounded himself with some really dumb people as well,

who kind of took his rhetoric that he was spewing to anyone that would listen as like a big joke. Yikes. When it's like, I don't understand that's not a joke. No, I can't imagine having one of my friends be like, yeah, I'm gonna kill my parents, come over. I'd be like, I'm gonna go tell a counselor, bye. I'd be like I'm gonna go tell a counselor. Bye. I feel like that's really weird Like that's weird to say it's like this is the case to where he says that to somebody and the kid is like don't fucking tell

Yes, he's like, yeah, I don't want anything. Yeah, like don't tell me that so let me Now is going to be the first time we are gonna insert a piece of the old episode We are going to insert a piece of the old episode. Oh good, we are going to... Blah blah blah. Retail from 10,000 leagues under the sea. We will retail the conversation that Tyler had. It was an online conversation because his phone had been taken away between him and someone named Isadora. Now get ready. and someone named Isadora. Now get ready. Tyler messaged her and said don't text me about drugs. So she wrote what happened? And he said my mom has it because I got arrested on Monday and she's flipping shit. I just got out today. She says, oh shit. Tyler Hadley says, fucking shit sucked.

In reference to jail. Yeah, she says, you bad kid. Goodbye. And Tyler says, just kidding, it's a pirate's life for me. And she says, LMAO. He responds, I don't fucking associate with non pirates. What the fuck? She says, what? And he says, okay, I'm done with all the nautical nonsense. So she wrote a smiley face and said, you're so silly. What are you doing? And he says, nothing, considering suicide.

And she says, why? Tyler says, um, because I want to die, I guess. So he says, what are says what other reasons are there and she says are you being serious? He says yes, I do want to die sometimes and she says don't die Which is very super duper helpful a girl silly when you're talking about this and then she says Smoke a bowl whenever you're down tongue out face. And he says, I used to, now I drink a lot when I'm depressed. It fills the emptiness inside me in all capital letters. Wow, he needed so much more counseling.

So she writes, you're quite the character. And he says, yes, but all my smiles are fake. And then she's like, uh, dinner and cheese, like, wink face, see you later. So that was, that's just one conversation he had before this party. Clearly this kid had fucking issues. She was happening and his brain stuff was going down. He was already feeling, he was pissing his parents

about the phone. He was feeling depressed. He was clearly on drugs. He was drinking the ton. He just told her, don't text me about drugs. So he was clearly on drugs.. He just told her, don't text me about drugs, so he was clearly on drugs. More than pot for sure. So a lot on back there.

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We were. It's us. We were. Okay. We came up. Woo. But you know what the information still stands. There's that.

That. That was a Facebook conversation between himself and his friend Isadora. Yes. Where he is clearly telling people, you know, I'm pissed because I got my phone taken away. He's expressing suicidal thoughts. He's, you know, talking about pirates. There's just a lot. So, oh, yo, oh, in a bottle of something. So again, Tyler had been saying to everyone that he was going to

have a rager. All of a sudden he's talking, I'm gonna throw a party, guys. Project X. I'm gonna throw a shindig for the ages. That's what you would say. I love that you're like, is what he, and I'm like, is what you would say. That's what he was going around saying. But the problem with this was that he never threw parties. Right, because his parents were homes. His parents were pretty strict

and they were, they definitely weren't having ragers at their house for teenagers. parties. Right. Because his parents were homes. His parents were like pretty strict and like they weren't they definitely weren't having rangers at their house. No. No. No. Teenagers. So no one was believing this because they were like no we don't even know who you are. Like this is weird. Now I don't think that's necessarily like you know just because he didn't throw parties often like you don't believe him that he's going to have a party. Yeah. Like there's a first time for every, like it has to happen eventually. It's very true. Like I don't know, it was just very weird. He was also getting into a ton of trouble lately obviously.

He was having a lot of issues going on. So everyone knew that he was in no position to be like, hey mom, I'm gonna have a rager at the house tonight. So that was what, what was good about it? Yeah, so people were already like, okay, kid, whatever. But he kept telling people, he kept saying, and every time they would ask him about it, because people, they weren't believing him,

but they were still like, are you having it? Like, can we come? So he kept telling people, quote, I'm working on it, which is very ominous now. Yeah, that's dark. Very, very, yes. Also, I bet all you high school listeners are gonna think twice the next time someone that usually doesn't throw a party, throw it's a party. Yeah, yeah, don't go.

Think about it. Don't go. If you're listening right now, just double think that, that's all. Just just break it over one more time. So we are going to, because there's a couple of like messages in a row, you're going to get another throwback of this conversation. To the submarine for you. Back we go! On Saturday, July 16, 2011, at 11.25am, he received a Facebook message from Antonio Ramirez. So Tyler responded, Sup Bra. I already want to throw punch this kid, by the way. Sup, you know, I already want to throw a punch him. Antonio responded, chilling, what's you doing tonight?

And he said, trying to have a party at my crib. Antonio, your parents aren't home? Tyler, nope. Well, they're leaving soon. Ugh. Yeah. This was before anything happened.

This was before anything happened. This is the day that it happens So it is the morning of it happening of him killing his parents and he's like, yep, they're leaving soon That's so fucked up. Now that same day, 1.15 p.m Tyler posted a message on his face. He wrote party at my crib tonight dot dot dot dot maybe so LOL if I kill my parents, okay, well, he's still saying maybe, like he's still being a little like a cagey dick about it? So everybody's like, is this happening or what? Like, what the fuck are we doing tonight?

So around 8.15 p.m. nothing had happened yet. So then he posted another message at 8.15 p.m. Party at my house, hit me up. Because he had already killed his parents at this point. Oh, God. Yes. Now, at this point, a friend named Ashley Hayes messaged him and said,

Whoa! What, what, if your parents come home? Do you think she said, whoa, that enthusiastically, she wrote it in all caps. It took me a minute to calm down after that. She wrote it in all caps. You like started low and then came all the way up. I like- I did it like a snake.

Woo! I was like a serpent rising when like that, what is it like the people who were like a snake charmer? Snake charmer. Snake charmer and the cobra comes out. Yeah. That's what I did. She'd fucking did it. I thought this was my show all sometimes.

Other times not so much. She looks like right now not so much. Don't look at me. Don't look at me. Don't look at me. No, she wrote it in all caps. That's how I got caps. She was probably just like, whoa. No, and I'm sure she was like, whoa.

Because all these kids are so dumb. Don't just feel like they're like that. So she says, what, what if your parents come home and he wrote, they won't't trust me because he had killed them guys. They're dead Like this is so stressful also Like why are you having a ranger with your dead parents in the house? Cannot can you imagine like from heaven? They were probably like I Not only did my child murder me now. I have to watch him and it's Now I have to watch him and his dog has stretched right my home. Yeah, god damn.

Oh, fuck that. Oh, so this gets a lot. This gets to be a lot. So just hang tight. I would have hit that house with lightning if I was in heaven. Right, I thought it would. I would have pissed all over it, but then it was raining. I don't know if that's allowed.

I think there's like a few. I don't know. I think they give me like a pass on that. I think thunder and lightning would be like a loophole because it's like natural, but if piss started to get in the sky... Like one of the like a card that you can use once. Like a get out of jail free card? You just want to use and you just, you got that's it forever.

You can only use it once, so pick wisely. But you can't would be what I pick. You can't pick that much. So I would want to do something even worse. Maybe up wherever you are, you can just like, infinite, you can infinitely piss. So you're the word piss is so nasty. Just so, anyway. Yeah.

That was a combo. Do you still feel the same way that you that if you could infinitely pee, you would? Yes. If this happened to me, like this tragedy, and I had to watch my murderer who is also my child, party, and destroying my house, Yeah, pee all over it. If I had the option to pee all over them from the heavens, I would do that. I think I would still go lightning. Yeah, very, very frankly. That's more damage I feel it does.

That's very true. Mine's more just like self-satisfactory, but like which makes sense. But yours is a lot more property damage, which I appreciate. Yours is a very capricorn way to go about things. And mine is a very gem, and I would go about things. Look at that. Oh, guys, it is fun to take a trip down memory lane. Just listening

to that recording. I feel like it doesn't even sound like us. No, it doesn't. You can tell that we've become, I hope, at least I hope. Maybe I'm just hearing this like totally differently, but I feel like we've become more confident with, I feel. Speaking of no microphone at least, I don't even think about it anymore, but I remember I used to be like, so these are just, these are terrible and fun. All at the same time. The information is terrible. The delivery is pretty fun back then. I agree.

Which I think is basically our motto. I should have said subject matter. subject matter, pretty terrible delivery. Prima. Fun. Fun. Alright, so let's get back into this terrible case. Prima. Fun. Fun. All right, so let's get back into this terrible case.

Let's do it. So at this point, Tyler is quite clearly already acting a fool, like a pirate. Yeah, at least. They're complete fool. He was making mistakes and being obvious from the jump. Like he was, he was pretty much telling everybody exactly what he was doing. So before the party began, he had actually gone to the ATM and taken out like $5,000 of his parents' money because he obviously took all their cards. Right. And he was flashing that

shit around when he picked some people up to bring them back to the party. Like he was just being very obvious about this. Now the party was off. There were tons of kids in this house. Most of them didn't even know Tyler. Didn't really even know who he was. When they saw him, they were like, oh, yeah, I've seen that kid at school. I guess that's him. They had no idea that they were even at Tyler had at least party. It was just like here, show up at this address. There's a party there. Yeah. You're like, yeah. I seem to remember when we did this the first time, you were like, relatable. Yeah, like a little bit.

Like kind of a, I mean, I feel like I always knew the parties that I was going to in high school. I feel like when you went into college, you just kind of like, That's when things get a little hairy. Yeah, you're just like, let me just go to that party over there. You're like, oh, people are gathering.

All right. Cool. I'm there. Let's grab some beer and go. Yeah. Now, this is clearly different because these kids were not just hanging out having a nice time. They were destroying the place.

Yeah, they were wild in. This, I don't understand. Maybe I just had a totally different experience with going to parties my entire life, but like, I never destroyed a place. I have never destroyed any property. I mean, there was cigarettes being put out on the rugs, on the furniture, on the walls.

This is like a really dick move. Just reckless abandon. Shit spilled everywhere. Glasses were shattering. And it's like guys leaving it and laughing. You know that his, like, I would hope that you're under the impression that his parents are alive. Well, that's what shocks me.

I'm like, so you are all thinking his parents were just gonna come home. I suppose though that they were thinking, because as we'll see in a few minutes, he was telling people multiple different stories about where his parents were. They were on vacation. But eventually they're coming back.

Eventually they're gonna come home, but these kids are thinking, I don't have to deal with it. It's a stylish problem. Like, I don't even know this kid it, it's a stylish problem. Right. I don't even know this kid, so who gives a shit? It's just crazy to me. It's wild. It's just ridiculous.

But I mean, I'm not sure why they took the party to like this level of demolition, but like, go off. We really went for it. And Tyler was a mess too. He was very anxious at times. He kept telling people not to smoke inside, but when things were getting a little too rowdy, he told everyone just to stay inside

and he was like, you can smoke inside, it's fine. Because he didn't want anyone calling the police. That's right, right. But in the beginning, he was like, don't smoke inside, it's my parents' house. Right, and he actually said that to someone. And it's like, he like forgot or something. But he was wavering between actually saying,

come on, this is my parents house, to being like, I actually don't give a shit what you do here. So he kept going back and forth between these things. And people said he was seeming very off. He would like gaze into the distance, wasn't really socializing, just walking around, drinking, just doing drugs here and there.

But like acting very somber for the craziness around him. Now around 11.30 pm, a guy named Mike Young came to the party with a bunch of his pals. He was like a popular kid, like a jock. He basically knew Tyler, like who he was, but he didn't know him. Yeah, so he showed up and obviously it's like, oh Mike Young, is that the party? That's also such a jockey. It is like Mike Young, the quarter back. You have to be a quarter back. Yeah, you have to.

He said when Tyler opened the door, he said that Tyler was very clearly rolling. Like, he was like, it was clear as day. Well, you can tell. His pupils were probably like this big. Exactly, like saucers. And he said, he immediately noticed that he was very anxious looking and he was acting strange.

She was like very fidgety. He just seemed like, can you imagine, like, I mean, I can't imagine killing my parents, but imagine killing your parents and then doing Molly, like you're supposed to be in like a good head space when you're doing that shit.

Or like, I can't imagine you're in a good head space after committing murder. He'd be like, tweaking. I would think so. And he said, and he did say his pupils were like saucers. And he said he kept rubbing his hands together and like clenching his hands into fists. Because when you're on stuff like that,

you like the way that certain things feel. So you just keep rubbing your hands together. They're like touching things. And I think it's like that in the mixture of like, he's just anxious as fuck, because he knows what is in that house. So Mike was said he went into the party and he said when he walked in,

he immediately noticed just the complete just destruction of this house. It disarray. But he was like, and you know, you would think he'd be like, wow, this is terrible. I'm just gonna leave, no. No, of course not. So he came in and he said he was sitting on the couch

at one point, which this is interesting. He was just talking to some people and he said someone came over and was like, I smelled dead people. And he was like, what is that supposed to mean? And also, what was the child that said that? Well, that he said it was just some guy. Like, what's your deal, sir?

Why do you know what that smells like? I feel like, okay, six cents. I certainly don't know what that smells like. I smelled dead people. Alaina at parties. I don't like I smelled dead people. You're like something is dead in here. Something's dead in here and know it.

But he was like, what's that supposed to mean? And the kid was like, I don't know. Maybe someone's smoking and just walked away. But I guess that kid said that a couple times that night or at least a couple of people said it during the night. Call me crazy. But I think dead people and pot smoke or cigarette smoke might smell a little differently.

I mean, to my ol' factory kids. No, let's hear it. They smell quite different. Yeah. That's just me. Yeah. I can tell you. I've been around all three.

So I can tell you, I 100% would be able to distinguish between those. Yeah. So I'm pretty sure that kid was like, I 100% smelled that people, but my brain doesn't wrap around that fact, cause why would you even, yeah, why would you think that while you're like a teenager at a party? I think a lot of people came into this party,

saw how crazy it was, the place was a mess cause it was like just Tyler in there at one point. So it's like just gross. Yeah. And I think people were like, oh, he's probably here while his parents are on vacation or something. He's like, he's just a gross kid.

And he's just dirty and nasty. So I probably just smells in here. I would not want to be a stinky party. No. And it's like in Florida, in the Florida heat. Right. And this is in the summer. Oh, man, no.

No, thank you. So yeah, so it's weird. And another kid randomly blurted out, oh, so it's weird. And another kid randomly blurred it out. Oh, he killed his parents. And somebody will, and people were like, what the fuck? I feel like maybe this isn't the party for us tonight. We're gonna go to Jennings down the street. Well, like, so apparently the kid just laughed

and he was like, oh, I'm just kidding. That's weird to me on so many levels. Like, kids were making jokes about murder and dead bodies. When in fact, there was murder and dead bodies presence. Right. That's fucked up. That's scary. I've never been to a party.

And again, I'm not saying all parties are like the parties I've been to. Never been to a party where someone was like, I'm pretty sure the host killed his parents. And that's why we're here. I'd be like, bye. Yeah, no, I've been to a lot of parties in why we're here. I'd be like, but, yeah, no. I've been to a lot of parties in my day and not once have I been like, hey, that host killed his parents

because I wouldn't be there. Like, even as a joke, it's like, that's a weird joke. It's not a joke, I don't think that's funny. It's real strange. Now, in my notes, I just realized that I wrote knock-ups on dogs. Oh my God, I forgot about the on dogs.

Because what I meant was, there were dogs here. Yeah, there were dogs here There were two dogs in the house who were scared shitless by this whole thing Can I spoil her alert really quick does one of them? It does yeah, but both of them are fine. Yeah, I'm like just me get out of here But like shame on these assholes. There was a black lab named Sophie and in a Same on these assholes. There was a black lab named Sophie. And it all was partially deaf and blind beagle. Stop, all stop.

Sophie, the black lab, ended up cowering in the bathroom all night. And then at one point was locked in a closet. By some of them. That is like, I hope whoever locked Sophie in a closet stops their toe every single day when they wake up and every single time before they go to bed Well, then they found the beagle shaking underneath Tyler's brother's bed

Oh my god. His brother Ryan had moved to North Carolina with his you know soon to be at one point his future wife Oh for in for college and They like they're just all like and destroying this Right. Loud music being like ridiculous with these two little dogs. It just freaks me out. No, it's horrible. It freaks so mean. It's really mean to do that to animals.

So the beer pong table. The beer pong table is where a lot of weird shit happened. Yes. So obviously they had a beer pong table. As a way. Or, you know, I don't know if this is, if it's a Massachusetts thing to call it, Bayroot. I think you taught me that because I had never, or you know, I don't know if this is if it's a Massachusetts thing to call it Bayroot. I think you taught me that because I had never heard of that. I think I don't know if it's a

Massachusetts thing. I don't know you guys might be a old people thing. Wow. I had to get a nice call it Bayroot. So here we are. And so tons of kids are playing it in the kitchen on the kitchen table. The beer pong table or beer root table. More pong table. More pong table. More pong table. Was set up in a position that was right next to the family computer station.

Remember when we all had a family computer station? Yes. Fun times. Yup. I had a family computer room. Yeah, you did. But I remember tons of my friends had family computer stations that were usually in the kitchen or in like a room off the kitchen.

Yeah, a lot of times they were ours when I lived up my mother's house. It was an living room. Yeah, it's always like right in the middle of everything that makes sense. So this computer was being used simultaneously while they were playing the game because kids were playing songs on it throughout the night on YouTube. That's the only place you used to be able to get music. So funny. So Mike said he was trying to play some music, Mike Young. He said he was trying to play some music while playing

Beirut or Bearpon. And he was struck immediately with how disgusting the computer area was. He said the keyboard was sticky and covered in a brown liquid. He didn't know what it was. He knows now. Near the kitchen and what we'll find out is

we definitely know what that was because of where one of the victims was murdered. Yeah. Near the kitchen, the door to the master bedroom was closed and locked. And there was like a little hallway that led to that bedroom. And several kids tried to enter and found that they couldn't,

but they all noticed a black smear about a foot long beneath the door, like a black brownish kind of smear. Yeah. It looked like oil-based paint that someone had tried to wipe up, but they just smeared it everywhere. Yeah. And so in every time somebody would go near that door, Tyler would be like, get away from that door, get out of that hallway, I want people out of that hallway. Jesus. And everybody was like, what the fuck? You think that you'd like put something up in the hallway

if you didn't want people to walk down it? But as we'll see, he did not do a good job of cleaning up or trying to take, it is astounding to me, the amount of kids at this party who were like, oh, shit. Yeah, there is a bunch of blood spatter there Yeah, but like kids are so fucking stupid I'm even noticed it and when you look at crime scene photos of that kitchen and like they were right there You're like how though? I'm gonna do not look down and go that looks like blood. Yeah, I'm gonna be honest with you

I was an idiot when I was younger. I if I had been at that party I would have left if people started talking about murdered parents, but I probably wouldn't have thought. I would have been like, oh, that's like soda. That's what, and you know what? A lot of people, that's what a lot of people said they did think it was. They thought it was spilled coke or something else.

That's what I would have assumed. So throughout the night, everyone did keep asking where his parents were, and he kept avoiding the questions or giving those, those random answers. So Tyler had a friend there named Mark. They had known each other for like over 10 years and he had already had some like weird moments with Tyler leading up to this. In fact, he said when Tyler was 10, he had a fight with his mom and he told Mark that he was going to kill his parents at 10 years old. It's a lot. So that's already, and when he ate, so that night of the party, he asked Tyler

where his parents were, and he told him they had gone to Georgia. Because remember he has family there, so that's a problem. Not crazy. Tyler's friend, Marquis, wasn't at the party, and he was really good friends with him, but he was visiting his grandparents in Chicago

at the time, that's why he couldn't come. I bet he is so fucking relieved that he was in Chaitown. Exactly, and well, police did speak to him later because they were such good friends, and he told them that two nights before the party they had hung out. He said Tyler seemed pretty normal, but randomly out of nowhere, he just blurted out that he wanted to kill his parents and have a big party after. Okay. That's not something you just randomly blurt out. Certainly, I've never had a friend that said that to me.

Right. And he said, wouldn't it be weird to party with the body still in the house? And then he said to him, nobody's done that. I'd be like, dude. Well, and it's like, what are you trying to like compete? Or like, are you trying to like compete? Or are you trying to like make a name for yourself later on and like prison?

Like I'd, what? What's the purpose of this conversation, bro, Tato? I'd be like, you should go now. You need to leave. I have one fortnight and it's time for you to leave. I have one fort I am on the last level of Zelda, and I want you to leave. Yeah. I candy crushed this shit. Get out of here. I love that you just brought in candy crush. But yeah, that's

weird. Yeah. That's weird. And that was only a couple nights before the party. So he was, I have never seen in a case. Hopefully you guys can't hear that massive. That's flying over my house. It's like, oh, oh. I have never seen a case, or a killer, who has literally spent the weeks leading up to the murders, not just hinting at people or trying to, but literally being laid up telling them. Straight up telling them. I'm literally going to murder my parents

and throw a party and having so many people go, I thought that was a joke. Like, yeah. The, group think of like, this is an okay joke to make over and over again. It's like very concerning here. Yeah. I'm like, I don't know if this would fly now. Lots of degenerates hanging out together.

Not a huge shiner. So I guess, Marquis, which I understand, he just responded, that's crazy. Yeah, I don't know what else he would say in that situation. I was like, I'm going to Chicago next weekend, and I think after that, we might distance ourselves from each other. Bye. See ya, never.

So, yeah, so just to hammer this in, I have another Facebook chat that kind of shows you where his mind was leading up to this. It was from July 2nd, 2011, and it's a chat with his friend Mercedes. I'm going to use the original recording back under the water, back at you with it. It's the host for you. This is when they were talking about when the house arrest thing. He complained again that his mother had still taken his cell phone because that really pissed him off How dare she she probably paid for it so he said quote to her LOL. Yep. She's a kind fashow. I might kill her

Oh He met fashow I think it was more like for show I think it was more like for show Can you fush out? That's very like theatrical I'm so Broadway Fush out Fush out

It's more like she's a cult for show I'm a killer Which is fucked up It is fucked up Not laughing at that No, not laughing I'm just laughing at the fact that he wrote Fush out And that I chose Broadway read a fucking book

Get an education like I can pronounce finished words better than I can understand how these fucking kids talk Literally messages like I was trying to decipher these messages and I was like no bring me back to the lake Bona murders and I'll pronounce those words better like cuz Show is not something that you come out of my mouth You sound like John Mulaney. Oh my god. What a couple you're all gone. I love John I do too. Uh, so sponsors John the Lee for show What that was his response to sponsoring cost?

John the lady called us tomorrow, we were like, what is sponsored us? And he was like, Fush- SHOW! I would... DIE! I couldn't have personally found that John the Lady just has an entity, what's sponsored us? He's got money!

He's got money! It's sort of a fush-show! You sound just like him! I love it. I love it so much. Woo! So he called his mom to see with her first of all, which like I reserved that word for like a For like a few amount of people. Yeah, you reserved it for Catherine and I am sure dead. She was a cunt. She was Well, so he said all well. She's a cunt fudge show. I might kill her. So Mercedes being signed off-line. Mercedes said, OMG, no jail! Or I mean prison, LOL.

Not just like the mere fact your mother. Yeah, like, you shouldn't commit murder on your mom. You might go to jail, that's a bummer, OMG, fudge. So he wrote, oh well, heart, heart emoji, She's just, you might go to jail, that's a bummer. Oh jeez. The f**k. So he wrote a well heart, heart emoji, or a modicon. Excuse me, a modicon. Woof.

So there was that. She's like, I have such a crush on her. And she's like, oh my god. Such a bad boy. We just bonded. He was in jail. And that's a bad boy. He might kill his mom, f**k show.

F**k show. Of course, I had to keep in the f**k show. You might cause mom fushio! SHOW! Of course I had to keep in the fushio. You cannot get rid of a fushio! You gotta keep the fushio! Now we just learn to get a little further from the microphone when we say yes! I'm gonna try to normalize the audio for you. So it doesn't blow your speakers out because we're listening to those now, I'm like, yikes.

All right, we thought that was good audio. It was a choice. It was a choice. We worked with what we had. Choices. Choices. But thanks to our patrons, we've been able to upgrade our equipment.

Yay. So it's all thanks to you guys. So we appreciate that. You. So, putting John Malania side for a second, I mean, we never want to put John Malania side of it. Nobody puts John Malania in a corner. Nobody does, but we'll put him over here for a second.

Yes. So Tyler was giving people red flags left and right, like we said. When they added up, they looked terrible, but like separately when told to like kind of dumb kids. It doesn't, you know, yeah, they can be taken more lightly, I suppose, especially if this is his sense of humor, which from what I read in several sources,

he had a sense of humor that was kind of dark, kind of macabre, and like he did like darker stuff, and in fact some of his family members were like, ugh, like clutching their pearls upset about it so. Yikes. This might not be weird coming from him. I think this seems like normal. That might be why from the outside we're all like what the hell are you taking that as a joke?

This might have just been how he is. Yeah. So people weren't thinking this was any different from any other time. Mm-hmm. So by midnight this party was in full swing. Oh hell yeah. There was over 100 kids there at the time. Regain point is over.

A lot of people said Tyler was doing the same thing I said before, just kind of hovering. He wasn't interacting with a lot of people, just drinking, observing. When he asked a friend, like randomly around midnight, he asked a friend and his girlfriend to bring him down the street to get more beer for the party, because they were running low. His friend who was 21 at the time went in to get the beer and Tyler stayed in the car with his girlfriend. While they waited, Tyler mentioned to her that his father had died. Jesus. And said it like that, like my father died. And this was the friend's girlfriend. Yeah. And so the girlfriend was like, okay, and she just assumed it was like a normal like my dad died.

Like parents died. Yeah. So she was like, I felt bad. I was like, oh, I'm sorry. Like that sucks. But he didn't really like, he just kind of was like, yeah. And then she was like later when she found out what happened, she was like horrified. She was like, he literally admitted it to me.

That's terrifying. What the hell. I know she was like, I barely knew this kid. Right. Right. So when they got back to the house, the kids at the party were playing water pong because they had run out of beer. Yeah.

And you got to keep it going. Obviously. One kid who was interviewed later, but didn't want his name put anywhere because don't blame him. If you were at this party and acted this way, it's probably for the best that you do that One kid who was interviewed later, but didn't want his name put anywhere because... Don't blame him. If you were at this party and acted this way, it's probably for the best that you do that, like dark silhouette, distorted voice thing. Yes.

We are anonymous. He said he immediately smelled something terrible when he first arrived at 1.15 a.m. Yeah. He said, right when he entered the home, it smelled like moldy wet clothing or something really horrible like that. Ew. And he also said, he noticed too, that it was just a mess, and there was grime and some brown substance

on all the tiles on the floor. There was broken glass and shit on the furniture and the walls. It looked like a disaster. It was getting worse and worse, as the party went on. So this kid, who we will call George Glass, he decided to play beer pong, pretty bunch. Oh. says the party went on. So this kid who we will call George Glass.

Wow, okay. He decided to play beer pong pretty bunch. Oh, sorry, I just, wow. So you're like, wow, use me that up. I thought you did. It's Jim's pretend boyfriend. Oh, that makes up George Glass. So yeah, okay.

So he decided to play Water pong. And in the middle of it, finally the beer came, they replenished the beer, so they started playing beer pong again. At one point while he was playing, the ball bounced onto the ground, and just rolled under the table. Normally this would not be weird.

Nope. It didn't roll far though, because it got stuck in some sticky brown shit that was all over the floor. That was not Coca-Cola. And he was like gross, but he just washed the boss ball off in the sink and kept using it. Ew.

He, they played beer pong with a ball covered in blood from a murder. That's nasty. That's a lot to grasp later. It's a lot. You know that we never played beer, pong with beer? Really? We always just filled the cups with water.

Because it feels disgusting when that ball falls on the floor that many times to like drink the beer that the ball's going into. Oh, we always played with beer. We never did. Wow, look at that. We never drink the water. Look at that difference.

That's weird. What's the point of playing? You just win or you don't. Why would you even play? You just win. That's weird. What's the point of playing? You just win or you don't. Why would you even play? You just win. That's weird. That's real weird. Well, you do it like while you're drinking.

So that's strange though. You're strange and unusual. Same. That's a really great podcast you guys should have. It is. You do the strange and unusual podcast with Alth and Wraith. I was also going to say. She's spooky and delightful.

She is spooky and delightful. I was also going to say that I like to flip cup a lot more than I like to be her pong. Flip cup stressed me out. I believe that. It was a lot. I like to be her pong because it's very slow, strategic.

See, I don't like beer pong because I'm not a good toss. I'm not a good tosser. I'm not a good toss, I'm a good flipper. I'm a good flipper, not a good tosser. Oh, now that we have figured that out, guys, thank you. Who's a flipper? who's the tosser? I feel like we have like reverted back

into like, when we first recorded this. Yeah. And it just feels right. It does. So Tyler had a weird conversation with a lot of people that evening. And it would basically tell them, you know, my parents aren't coming home.

This is my house. This isn't even their house anymore. Yeah, that's where on vacation, they moved. They are at work. Like he would, he just, he was getting weirder and weirder. And his 21-year-old friend, Mark, who had brought him to get the beer, he was leaving with his girlfriend. And he chatted with Tyler briefly at Tyler's request. Tyler was like, can you come outside and can I talk to you privately? And he said he was like, I don't want anyone else to hear this. So they went outside and there's a really great rolling stone article on this.

It really goes into detail. And this is it from that article. This is what went down. So Tyler said, dude, I did some things. I might go to prison. I might go away for life. I don't know, dude. I'm freaking out right now.

I'd immediately be like, tell me nothing else. Stop right there. Zup! Zup! I'm out. You gotta call authorities or so, I don't know. Zup! So Mark said, what are you talking about?

And he said, dude, I know you're not going to believe me. No one will believe me. I freaking killed somebody. And he said, dude, you killing somebody is your own business. Don't be telling me that sort of thing. I don't need to know to which I say same. Have the same. Also, the mark, what were you doing at this party?

Yeah. What? Why were you there? 21-year-old, like a 17-year-old party. He's that like token 21-year-old. And you know what? There's always one. I can think of exactly in my mind who that was.

Yeah, everybody can. The second we just said that, everyone listening. So they just went, whoop, and they just got that to that one. Except for, it's so true. You might not remember their name. But you know exactly what they looked like. You know what they were wearing, They just went, and they just got that to that box. It's so true. You might not remember their name, but you know exactly what they looked like. You know what they were wearing,

which you saw them. You can tell the stupid jokes. They made you know it. I'm not saying Mark is that guy. I'm just saying the thing. Yeah. So Tyler went with me. So immediately Mark's like, I don't need to see,

just, no, don't be telling me that shit. Which smart Mark, smart Mark. Bye, that shit. Which smart mark. Smart mark. Smart mark. Make better choices. Please do. So Tyler went back in the house and he ran into a guy named Ricardo. He was an 18 year old and he had only met Tyler that night iconic. He just showed up in the party.

So Ricardo was like, hey, thanks for having us over. Like fun party. So nice. And he said thanks for the beer. Yeah, that's very nice. That's very nice. Like Ricardo, fun party. So nice. And he said, thanks for the beer. Yeah, that's very nice. Like Ricardo, very polite. Get it. And Tyler responded, I just wanted to do something fun

before I left. Aie. And so Ricardo was like, where's he going? Innocently, he said, where are you going? And he said, I'm going to kill myself. Aie. Which is like, not a standard first meet chat that you have with someone. So Ricardo was like, why would you do that?

I don't know what to say. He said, because I did something really bad. So Ricardo said, what'd you do? It can't be that bad. Don't ask so many questions. Which I was like, Ricardo, one question too many. You just go, okay, I'm gonna call someone for you, bye. So he said, what'd you do?

It can't be that bad. And Tyler said, don't worry. If I get caught, I'll be in jail a long time. Oh man. So spooky and ominous. I'd be like, we're gonna get going. I'd be like, it's not Halloween. What is happening?

Thanks again for that beer. Is this dinner theater? I don't like it. Yeah. I've just turned British at the end of the night. It's okay. Now around 1 a.m. Tyler asked his best friend, or excuse me, it was closer to 2 a.m. I didn't mean 1 a.m.

Tyler asked his best friend Michael Mandel to walk outside with him and he was like, I gotta talk to you. I think he asked him to like walk down the street towards like the stop sign. Yeah, at the end of the street. Take a walk. They had been restaurants since they were eight years old.

Oh, so they were like tight, tight, tight, tight. When they got outside, Tyler just blurted out to him. I killed my parents. Hey. Now Michael knows his parents very well. He's his best friend. So he just went, yeah, right. Like what?

He was like, fuck off. Don't say that to me. And Michael, and he said, Michael, I'm being real. I'm not lying to you. If you look closely enough, you can see signs. Oh, that's nasty.

I hate that. Yeah, that's fucked up. This is when he pointed to the driveway and made reference to the fact that his parents' cars were both still parked in the driveway. Oh shit. And Michael was like, oh shit.

I didn't. I thought they got out of the car. I ran the car. I just didn't even think of that. So he was stunned. But obviously he was not wanting to believe this. So Tyler took him to the garage where he showed him a bloody shoe print on the floor

and led him into the house to the master bedroom that had been shot and locked all night. I forgot that he took him. Yes. Michael said there was a clearly of some old blood on the door. And he told him keep looking for the signs that everyone has missed.

No, thank you. I will leave now. It's crazy. When you see crime scene photos, it's nuts that no one noticed this. There was blood spatter on the walls, the ceiling, the door. There was even pooled blood on the floor around the baseboards.

The fuck? And it's like, these ones, I'm like, I don't know how anyone. Blood splatter on the walls, I don't know what you chalked that out to. Like, literally spatter on the walls, on the ceiling, it's insane. So, he opens the door. And Michael looks inside and he said he noticed a mountain of stuff piled on top of each other. Dining room chairs, blood soaked towels, magazines, photos, a lamp, household items, all stacked in a huge pile. At the bottom of the pile, he sees a leg.

Oh my god. So he told Michael everything. He said he did it that very afternoon. He said around 5 p.m. He hid both of his parents' cell phones. That is so that f**k. So they couldn't call for help. Right. Like to be that like mastermindful at 17 years old while killing your parents is wow. It's like so if the 300 times he said he was gonna kill his parents wasn't enough to make you realize that he was planning this and it was definitely not a snap

or like the cell phone. The cell phone. The fact that he hid their cell phones so they couldn't fucking call for help. That's just really drive that point home. That's just evil. So meticulous, so calculated. Yeah, that's like that is,

like that's premeditation right there. He said he hyped himself up by listening to the song Feel Lucky by rapper Lil Boozzy. Lil Boozzy? Lil Boozzy. I don't know Lil Boozzy. You don't know Lil Boozzy? I don't either but I figured you would. I don't know Lil Boozzy.

Hit us up if you know Lil Boozzy. So and he also took three ecstasy pills. Whoa! Right? That's what I said. I was like, whoa! I don't know if... And he was not a big kid at all. I was like, I'm very vanilla here, but like three seems...

Let's just throw it out there. I've only ever taken one at a time. It seems like that is a lot of ecstasy. I feel like that could literally kill you. I mean, I don't know... I... yeah, I don't know the ins and outs of that, but I would die. I feel, I feel very strongly that I would pass away. I feel like I would be gone.

Yeah, I don't feel good about Ripsis. So he was on three ecstasy pills at the start. And then the fact that he did like so much stuff later, like yeah, it's just like, bye. Like all done. That's why, and maybe that's why he was acting so strange. And he, I think he kept going to, he was piling on other stuff.

So I think he was just numbing it all out. And it was, I'm honestly surprised that he did not die. I am sure. Or at least like have a stroke or something. Or something bad happen. Well, at this time after he took the three ecstasy pills, he grabbed his father's claw hammer from the garage and walked it to the house.

He saw his mom on the computer in the kitchen doing some work. And he said he stood behind her for at least five minutes. That's just weird. Just staring at her. That's terrifying. And just thinking about what he was going to do. And also, like, she didn't know that he was there for like five whole minutes. I don't know.

Maybe she must have thought that he was just like in the kitchen. And like, you're not even paying attention. Right. Then out of nowhere, he just slammed the claw hammer down on his head. Thinking about that. Even just thinking about that. It's horrific. I just grabbed the back of my head.

Yeah. Like, this is one of those that's, it's so brutal. What he did. You can't. You're parents. To your parents who were good parents. Right. Like gave you everything you ever wanted. These are parents who love, he said later that he knew that his parents loved him. Because, uh, I think he tells like an inmate later that like because one inmate in particular, I think his name was like Tony. He really got a shitton out of him and then told people later because he was, he wasn't in prison forever.

So he got out and showed people. And he said that Tyler told him, I knew they loved me because my dad didn't go after me. He just asked me why. And then Tony told him like, then why did you keep going? Like, he realized suddenly that they loved you. Like if that hit you all of a sudden, why would you keep going? He's like, I had to finish once I started. What the fuck? Like what the fuck? So that's the kind of mindset we're dealing with here. When she was hit in the head, Mary Jo screamed, why Tyler? Why?

The fact that she knew that it was him too. Yeah. And she obviously his father, Blake, heard his wife scream, came running into the kitchen to help her. And Tyler said they looked each other dead in the eye. And his father just echoed his mother's question and said, why Tyler? Like, that's wild. And then what else could you say? And you want to know what Tyler answered? Why the fuck not? Yeah, I forgot about it.

And he said he shouted it and kept repeating that question as he beat his father to death with the climber. So he is screaming at him. Why the fuck not while he's doing this? The fact the way those poor people like exited this earth is so disturbing. It's horrific. Like it makes your stomach flutter. It's horrific.

It's horrific. They were looking at their child, their youngest child, killing them, literally. That must be the reason why the fuck not. And in like a rage, like screaming why the fuck not, that's, it's just beyond my purpose. And it's so sad because they tried to get him the help that he needed. That's what it feels like.

This is not one of those cases where it's like, they ignored all the signs. Yeah. They didn't give him any help and he didn't have counseling. They tried to do like everything. They did everything for him. They did everything they could for that kid.

Everything they could. They were great parents and great people. And then you think about... They deserved not even a cell of what happened. No. And then you think about how he overpowered his father. I mean, his father was huge. Well, and as we'll find out,

because I'm gonna go over a little bit of the autopsy, we find out that it took quite a bit. Yeah. And it's horrifying. It really is horrifying. Because... I forgot about how brutal this case was. I knew that it was like rough, but it's really brutal. Well, after he made sure that at least he believed that they were dead, he wrapped their

heads and towels and dragged them both to the bedroom. Now, his father was like I said, over six feet in like 300 pounds, he was a huge guy. Yeah. Like Tyler's not that big. And he somehow got him in there. He put them on the floor next to each other, face down and put the claw hammer between them. That's weird.

And the whole face down aspect of that and putting like the towels around their fit head. He didn't want to look at their faces. Yeah. And then he said he went about cleaning up, which he did a piss for job of. Yeah, like why bother? He said it took hours, hours and hours. He threw everything he could that had any evidence on it in that bedroom on top of his parents.

If you look at those crime scene photos, the kid cleaned out the house, literally. Literally. It's insane. It's scary. It's a very scary behavior, this entire thing. So I mean, they were like broken dishes, bloody towels, blood-spattered books, photos, an

entire coffee table, shattered glass, mops, sponges, brooms, board games, anything he could find. He told Michael after it, because remember, he's telling Michael this, as in the party case, anybody forgot. He told Michael he started laughing when it was all over. He looked at himself in the mirror and laughed. Like, like, whoof. I don't even know what to say about that.

But Michael didn't leave the party. Yeah, that's a lot. Yeah, he didn't. He stayed for a couple more hours. And in one interview I found, because he's been asked about this's a lot. Yeah, he didn't. He stayed for a couple more hours. And in one interview I found, because he's been asked about this quite a bit. He said he wanted to stay and find out as much as he could, which I was like, okay. And he said, quote, even though you know he just killed two people, you don't see him as a killer, because he said he was his best friend since he was eight, which I've never had a good friend murder someone.

So I can't relate to this. Maybe it would be a feeling that I can't tap into like someone that you've known your whole life, like you can't wrap your brain around now. Well, no, I don't know if I said this the first time around. I feel like I might have, um, he's your best friend and you know that after this, he's going to go away for a long time. So as fucked up as it is, maybe he just wanted to spend all the time that he could with his friend before you went away. It's funny that you say that because you were like dead on.

Hey, because one of the things that Michael has had to answer for a lot was that he posed with Tyler for an infamous selfie in the garage. It was taken on Michael's cell phone and they're standing next to each other with Tyler holding up like an orange solo cup. They're both very like somber in the photo. He said he did it because he knew it would be the last time he ever saw his best friend.

Yeah. So he said, I must have remembered that somewhere in my brain. Yeah, he knew he was gonna call the cops on him when he took this picture. So he was like, I just, he's like, and he has said in many interviews, like I know it's weird and I know people can't understand it,

but like, I don't know, and I almost, it's like, he's like, I don't know how to explain it. I kind of get it to a degree. It's a weird, it's just, it's admittedly strange, for sure when you're looking at, but like he said in the interview that this was his best friend since they were kids, it was hard to dis, you know, disassociate that immediately. Yeah.

When even the proof didn't seem real, because he was like, I'm looking at it, I'm seeing it in front of my face, but it doesn't seem real. Yeah. Well, and you're also probably pretty drunk at this point, like maybe on a drug or two. Yeah. Apparently Michael didn't drink. He did at this point, like maybe on a drug or two. Yeah. Apparently Michael didn't drink. He did do drugs, but he wasn't a drinker. Like all of the friends said he'd literally never drink alcohol.

Well, he did do drugs, but on something. So he said he thought he knew Tyler, but he said in that moment, he realized I didn't know my best friend at all. No. Which is another shocking feeling to feel. Yeah. Before Michael left, he actually told another kid at the party. He was like, hey, come here.

And showed him the blood spatter. Didn't show him the actual crime scene, but like showed him the blood spatter outside the door. And that kid testified on the stand that he immediately said, he was like, nope, I'm leaving. Like as soon as Michael told him, he was like, I'm out. We got a smart one here.

And he was like, nope. And he was like, you should leave too, Mike. Like, what the fuck are you doing here? Yeah, like, we need to get the fuck out of here. And he was like, nope, not gonna do this. Now, words started going around the party now. And kids are hearing that some shit is going on in this. A few kids peaked in that bedroom and we're

looking at all the shit around the thing and being like, oh my god, it is blood. You know what Ash just said? I didn't know if I should say it out loud or not. Ash was like, she pointed at me and mouthed. That would have been you. It's fucked up. It's fucked up. It's fucked up. A curiosity for sure. For sure. I mean, could we all get over this again?

This whole thing is so beyond the realm of comprehension. Absolutely. That I can't, but it's like all those other ones that were like those old timey ones that are like, and then people just traips through the crimes. The right. I would have done that. Yeah. But in this scenario, I don't know.

Oh, I would have dipped the fuck out of there. Like the scenario. Like the road runner. Yeah, this scenario is just, I would have Tasmanian doubled the fuck out of there. Like this, you wouldn't have even, I would, this song, I think I would have de-materialized and de-materialized somewhere else.

I would have learned the art of teleportation in that moment. I would have just, like, burst into a bunch of different pieces and then just came together somewhere else. Can fede yourself out of there? Because this whole situation is just filthy. Bleat. It's filthy, it's grimy, it's gross, it's tragic beyond any realm of comprehension. I can't. I can't. I mean, I wouldn't even be here. Also, not only would I have left, I would have literally ripped off my clothing and burned it.

Yes. Well, at 2 a.m. someone falsely announced out of nowhere that there was another party at another house. So everyone ran outside drunk and peeling their cars out and blasting their music. So a neighbor, Ray Ann Wallace, called the cops. Because she said people were also like spilling onto her lawn. Yeah, she's like, fuck you, man. And she had also said she knew Tyler since he was born. She liked their family. She said Tyler was always very polite, very respectful.

But she was like, this was bullshit. I didn't want to do that. I would have been Ray Ann Wallace. I like my upstairs neighbors, but when they get loud, I text the fuck out of them. Oh, yeah, like, it was bullshit. I didn't want to do that. I would have been Ray and Wallace. I like my upstairs neighbors, but when they get loud, I text the fuck out of them. Hell yeah, like, it's quiet. Shut up, shut up. So two officers from the Port St. Lucy Police Department

actually came to the house, came to the door, Tyler told everyone to be quiet, told them to hide in his room, because it turned out that the party that was supposed to be happening, it wasn't a party. So everyone came raging back in. Of course. He'd had them all hide and he opened the door for the cops and the cop was like, there's noise complaints and Tyler was like, oh my God, so sorry. Well, quiet down and they were like, okay, bye. Not like, hey, you look a little underage there, my dude.

Like the cops came to the house where the bodies are. Yeah. And the crime scene is, didn't even bother to like, not only that, but like this kid is answering the door. Like, it's two AMs, the place. Like, 2.30 AM, he's opening the door and like, there's beer cans all over the front lawn and like, all the lights are off and everybody's like giggling in the background

and they're not like, hey, we should check this out. I feel like normally the first question is like, hi, do you own this property? Yeah, I'd be like, what's happening here? Are you five? How old are you? Yeah, right. So Mike did leave the party eventually.

Do you see this? But it was close to 4am when he left. Also, wow, what a fucking rager. These kids, there was like 16 year old stopping that like 4am and I was like, it's the most rare appearance. It's like wild to me.

There's no way I could just be floating around town at 4am when I was 16. My mom sucked as a mom and I was not out at 4am. No. No. So 4am, Mike left. And he said before he left, he actually hid 10 per cassette pills that Tyler had told him he was going to take to kill himself. Oh, shit. And he hit him in like a closet somewhere.

Yeah. Good. And he said Tyler immediately called him once he left, asking where he was. Yeah. So, he was immediately like what else is going on. So he was like, oh, I'm just, you know, I'm going to sleep. I'm tired. It's 4.99. 99. And so Tyler was like, cool. I'm having another party tomorrow. Do you want to come? And he was like, sure, I'll be there. And at 4.40 a.m. Tyler posted another Facebook

message to his wall that said party at my house again. Hit me up. So he's just planning on like party and forever. Now too bad for Tyler, Michael had called the Crime Stoppers hotline. Yeah. He told them everything and he the kid who he had told at the party and showed him all the stuff. He the one that was like buy him out. He also called Crime Stoppers when he had's not everything. So officers Adrian, Zermoyski. Zermoyski. Yeah, officers of voice. Zermoyski, an officer Charles Green,

where the ones to go to 371 Northeastern Granger Avenue at 432 AM. Oh shit. As the officers went up the driveway, they heard someone talking inside the house and they saw beer cans and bottles literally everywhere all over the lawn and driveway. Officer Greene saw Tyler through the window and he was like pacing and talking to himself.

And they said, quote, there was a quote, very disturbing look on his face. And in the police report, they wrote, quote, his eyes were very wide and he was not blinking. Yeah. I believe that. I believe that. He also has the ecstasy at least in his system, I believe that. Well, and they watched him as he would grab a stack of books from the bookshelf and then just bring them into the back bedroom. That's terrifying. So he was just kept burying them.

Which I feel like there's some psychological element to that. There has to be. There does have to be. Right? Because the burying is just so straight. It's close to the burying. Any psychologist or listening, or like maybe I might ask my therapist next week.

I know, right? Because now I'm thinking about it. I don't know why that didn't strike me before. It's like that's a strain that's a behavior. That's a very particular pathological thing to do. But it's like it has to be something that he's constantly burying them. I mean, it's's like, it has to be something that he's like, he's constantly burying them.

I mean, it's like it's a consistent, I have to keep burying them. I don't know if it's as simple as like, I have to get rid of them, they're not here. If I carry them, like, or just something like, if I keep doing this, it's keeping the inevitable from happening, like from this being discovered,

from me having to face it. If I keep burying it, it won't, like I keep partying, I keep burying them, it won't. Like I keep parting, I keep burying them, we'll never get to the end. I don't know. Maybe it's something like that, I don't know. But they said he was very frantic. They couldn't hear what he was saying.

He was just mumbling to himself. He repeated that a few times. And then finally, officer green knocked on the front door and rang the bell. The lights immediately went out in the house. Oh shit. And at this point, is there anybody left? No, no one was off to this point.

They asked whether any adults were home because he did open the door. And they said he seemed frantic, incoherent, and very annoyed, and that his pupils were like saucers. Gigantic. So he just re-asooned as they opened the door, and they were like, are there any adults home? He was like, no. And then he said, I know I'm going to Rock Road, which is where the St. Lucie County Jail is.

And he said, so just take me. They were probably like, what, we don't know what you've done. And they were like, okay, so they handcuffed him. What are we taking you all? And they put him in the driveway and had one of the officers stay with him. And then they went to walk in the house. And he started yelling, you can't go in there. Don't go in there. That's so bizarre. Like he is fully. Oh, like this. I think he's also just like not. He had so many mental health issues and then with the drugs and alcohol on top of it, his brain is just barely a brain. Hey, why are you? I think it's just like, may heaven. It's like the episode of,

I hate to even like make this like correlation, but the episode of SpongeBob where like, and his brain is trying to remember something and all these little mini-spongebabs are just like, running around trying to find the answer. That's exactly what's happening here. It's what I'm picturing. I think that's what it is.

I think so. Well, obviously when they went in, it was like disaster and disgusting. It had been ransacked, including his brother's room, which like, real nice brother Tyler is. Yeah, that's true. Just should everybody like destroy his brother's room. Locked in the closet, they found the black lab drawer. I would have been so pissed as a fucking police officer. I would have been so angry.

I would have been like, I'm throwing the book at you literally. So the cops passed through the kitchen and they went to the bestor bedroom. They found that it was locked and they noticed some streaks of blood and some spatter and on the baseboards. So they were like, oh, what's happening? So they forced it open and they found the bodies of Mary Jo and play Cadley. of Mary Jo and play Cately. Now, the autopsy showed defense wounds for Mary Jo, Hadley. She had them on her arms, wrists, and hands, like she had tried to stop the hits. So she must have turned around.

Mainly, there were injuries to her upper torso and head. Her spine was fractured. Wow. And they think that might have been like, from hyper extending to try to get away. Wow. Yeah. She had seven broken ribs. that might have been like from hyper extending to try to get away. Wow. Yeah.

She had seven broken ribs. Her left lung had been punctured by the ribs. The report said there was 14 blows. Jesus. Yeah. And that the left side of her skull was quote, pulverized. I can only imagine. She had a giant gash right across her face and they also said her head had been crushed like an egg. Oh my god

Now Blake's autopsy showed he was beaten very ruthlessly. I imagine it's because he was harder to get Take down to take down basically for lack of a better term. What he had his injuries were there's so many I'm only gonna give you a handful of them because there's so many he had his injuries were, there's so many. I'm only gonna give you a handful of them. Okay. Because there's so many. He had a broken nose, a laceration to his forehead, evidence that the round part of the hammer was also used on his temple area. Lacerations inside his ear, a 13 centimeter long laceration from his ear to his head. His skull was also caved in and his brain was lacerated in several areas. It was also completely encased in blood. Five lacerations at the base of his skull, at least twelve blows to the head. Long cut on his neck, bruising on his chest and lacerations to his shoulders,

eleven injuries to his right arm alone. Both of his humorous bones were broken. Elbows were lacerated, 12 injuries to his left arm. Both legs had bruises and cuts. His fibula of his left leg was shattered, and the return blows to his legs. His report says multiple blunt force trauma injuries of skin, 65, and all. Soft tissue bruising, massive skull fractures, lacerations of right cerebral hemispher and cerebellum, humoral fractures, left radius fracture,

and left tibial fracture. Wow. So, and that's a handful by the way. It was the brutal. A merciless and uncontrollable rage attack. Exactly. Like unbelievable. What? and uncontrollable rage attack. Exactly, like unbelievable. What? I can't even.

So the funeral service for the Hadleys was attended by nearly a thousand people. I can only imagine. They were wonderful people, like wonderful, wonderful people. The neighbor who actually called the cops rayon that night, she talked to Ryan at the service, the older brother. Poor Ryan.

And he lost everybody. Everyone. Everyone. One scoop. Yup. And he mentioned that he was going to be going to St. Lucie County prison in Fort Pierce that night to visit his brother after the service. And he said it would be the first time they had seen each other since the murders.

And what he said to her, he said, it's what my parents would want me to do. They wouldn't want me to abandon him. I don't know what I'm gonna say. I'll probably just sit there and cry. What a fucking, that's a huge person to be able to go and do that. For you to sit there and say my parents wouldn't want me to abandon him.

What a guy. Like, I don't even know. It's like these kind of people, it's like when we did the Daniel Morcombe case and you think about his parents and you're like, what? Like how are you just so amazing? Those are the kind of people that are able

to think these rational thoughts in situations. And actually, poor Ryan in that September of that year had to actually go file to make sure Tyler couldn't petition to inherit anything from his parents. Oh my god. Because and also now he is also in charge of everything taking care of all the whales, the estate, which is I can't even imagine that stress. All by himself, all at once, while dealing with the grief and not only that, he is now the guardian of the murderer. Who is now in prison. He became his guardian.

He immediately became his guardian. It was like in the whole thing. So he's like, yeah, because Tyler was still a minor. What the fuck? Isn't that nuts? I'd be like, no, that's too much for me. Put them up for adoption. Yeah, I'd be like, I'm good.

Well, when news spread the morning after the murder's about what happened, because it's a small community, this is what some of the absolute garbage piles had to say about it. Some of these kids that were there. I forgot about this part. So they mostly just blame the victims, because like their monsters, one girl said, quote, he was under a lot of pressure,

and like his parents would never let him be himself. And honestly, I think they just caused everything that just happened. His parents always expected him to be someone else that he wasn't, and that's not right. Anything Tyler would do, he'd be wrong for it. He just broke. Honestly, he got crazy because of it. If you have that much hate for somebody, then you actually would do something like that. Okay.

Somebody arrest her because she literally just said, if you make her mad enough, she will fucking kill you. Like, yeah. Like, that girl literally just said if you make her mad enough, she will fucking kill you. Like, yeah. Like that girl literally just said that. That's exactly what she said. Almost in those words. Be essentially.

Like what? The cliff notes say that. She literally said I think that they caused everything that just happened. I hate teenagers. How does your brain get there? Like that's insane to me. So other kids blame drugs. They said, somebody said,

we all make mistakes when we're on drugs. Okay, you can make a mistake of like saying the wrong thing or something like that, but killing your parents isn't a mistake. It's a catastrophe? Yeah, I wouldn't. it's like mistakes are like, oh no, I didn't flip the pancake in time and it's burnt on one side. That's a mistake.

That's a mistake. Whoops, I overslept. That's a mistake, but like, bludgeoning often like get high. And then after weeks of planning and bragging about my plan to murder my parents, bludgeon my parents to death with a claw hammer before throwing their bodies into a bedroom piling furniture and other bloody items on top of them and they're throwing an almost two

day rager in the home while they decompose. That's not my kind of mistake. I've never done that. No. Can't say I have, can't say I plan to. Stupid. That's just, that's a stupid statement. It's a very stupid statement, but you have to think of the kids making these statements. I can't say I plan to. Stupid. That's just... That's a stupid statement. It's a very stupid statement, but you have to think of the kids making these statements. I get it in teenagers. They're young,

they don't think far enough in into reality. This one though makes me want to like roundhouse kick her to the face. I think you said that last time. I feel like I remember that. I feel exactly what. I love when you say you want to roundhouse kick someone in the face. And I'm not naming these people so they don't know. It's fine. So this was a 16 year old cheerleader that had attended the party. And she was the one who showed up at like 3.34 o'clock in the morning and I was like, what?

A child? But she said, I wasn't upset when I heard. I wasn't scared or disgusted. It's not like I knew him personally. Yeah. I'm glad you weren't upset when I heard I wasn't scared or disgusted. It's not like I knew him personally. Yeah. I'm glad you weren't upset when you heard. You know who was upset? Everybody who loved Blake and Mary Jo Hadley. Exactly. You fucking asshole. Yeah, you suck. Alina's gonna roundhouse kick you to the face. I'm gonna roundhouse kick you to the face. Buffy style. Is that why you say that? Uh, no, but, but, but now it's how I say that.

So, and then the last one, uh, one of his friends said, wow, I just went to the party of a lifetime. It's messed up what he did, but 20 years from now, I'll be able to say I was there. I hate Port St. Lucy, but that's kind of cool. I don't know if cool is the word that you were looking for? Yikes. I just I think you were looking for a different word. Like these kids were so focused on this party. I'm like had none of these kids ever been to a party like are you all okay? Right. Like there will be other parties and

hopefully a lack of dead bodies out like you guys just hung around in a grimy home with a murderer and drank like stale beer all night like our Chris Angel didn't show up and like do illusions for you. Like, it was a pretty normal party. Yeah. Like a weird one at that. Like, it was a gross one at that. Mm-hmm. Like, but they're all acting like it was like, what an experience.

It's like, what did you do there? I don't know, drugs. It's very strange. So Tyler was sentenced to two life sentences without parole on March 21, 2014. He was resentanced in 2018 to the same sentence. Because they did do a resentencing because he was a minor. Remember that whole thing. They don't have that. You know that whole thing. But he got the same one. Because the judge said, quote, these attacks on his parents

were very painful, both physically and emotionally. I say emotionally because they realized their own son was killing them. Yeah. Which yes. Now Blake's brother Michael said about this, quote, I feel like I've been through another funeral and I'm tired of these funerals. It's like the third one with this case. So we're hoping that there's no appeal and that we don't have to do this ever again. And luckily they shouldn't have to do this again for another at least 25 years because there's a statute that says in 25 years they can re-look at the case to resentance possibly, but like whatever he's not gonna know. And who knows exactly? Now a fellow inmate testified that Tyler claimed

he'd begun to plan the murder and the party three weeks before it happened. And he said to this inmate, you should have come to the party. It was awesome. Like, I don't know you. He also calls himself, or he did call himself, Hambo and Hammer in prison.

And yeah, you can't give yourself a nickname. And one inmate who was leaving said he wanted his autograph because he thought he could sell it later. And he signed him, he signed a piece of paper for him that said, I don't know if you're a fan, but you should be, it's Hammer Time, Tyler Hadley. That's disgusting. He's really sorry about what he said.

That's disgusting. He greets new inmates that come into the block by saying, what's up, man, you know who I am? I'm Hammer Boy. I think that he's just so mentally disturbed that he just can't even make sense of it. Well, and I think he's living in school, he wasn't anybody.

Yeah. People didn't even know Tyler Hadley existed. Right. They went to his party and didn't even know he's existed, but in prison, he's Hammer Boy. It's so disturbing. And He's a hammer boy. It's so disturbing. And it's sad too because like what is the prison system doing for him?

Like are they trying to rehabilitate him? I hope so. But apparently he's being kind of a dick in prison because he's been in trouble with like, you know, homemade weapons. He has refused to go to disciplinary hearings. He's just a general dick. But he did get the shit kicked out of him in December 2011. Did he? Yeah, because apparently there's a thing where it's like a birthday cake that

prisoners will make where they'll like put a bunch of like, you know, sticky buns and like twinkies and like things you can get from forever. No make an actual concierge. They have a concierge prison. But they'll concierge they have a concierge prison But they'll put them together to make a cake if someone's having a birthday I read this in a thing. I didn't know it was a thing before that But he said he would do it for some guy and then instead he just ate all the things It's so this guy was pissed because it was a birthday. Yeah, that shit. He fished out of him. So he got in trouble Yeah this guy was pissed because it was a birthday. Yeah, that shit. It hit the shit out of him. So he got in trouble. Yeah. So his brother Ryan did write a book called A Thousand Fireflies and it's about him and

like getting through this in the aftermath. Yeah. So I just wanted to point that out. That you can go find it on like Amazon or anything. What's the meaning of the Thousand Fireflies? You have to read the book to find out. I'm going to. So I'll let you guys know how it is. And just to leave one little thing, I did find an interview from 2019 with him and he was being interviewed by a neuropsychologist. And he said he, when asked if he was like trying to reach out to family, or if he felt like he should reach out to family, he said he stopped trying to reach out to any his family, and it to any of his family because he said they don't want anything to do with them and they made that clear. When asked about

this, he said he stopped because he figured if he kept pushing, they would call the institution and have him like locked up in solitary or something. He never once said like he doesn't think it's right for him to put them through that or anything like that. He basically just like kept it on himself. Like he kept it like, well, I don't want them to put me in like solitary. It was never like, you know, I did something terrible. And I don't want to disturb them from the rest of their life. I shouldn't keep reaching out if they're telling me not to or I don't want to keep opening that wound that I made. I don't think he's mature enough to see it like that. But he's old enough to see it like that. But he's old enough now.

Oh absolutely, but think of his brain. Yeah, no, his brain is for sure, but I think it's just like tells you where he is. Absolutely. He still isn't thinking of any of this as like his faults. No, he's unfortunately, he's a very messed up individual. Yeah, because he basically is like, well, they've made it clear that they don't want to talk to me. So like me.

It's almost like that thing where sometimes people say like when like big, like triggering events happen in your life, you stay that age forever. Yes, I've heard, I've read that in so many things. It's like he's just 17 forever. Because that's a very 17 year old way to look at. Absolutely. Now, one of the, I just wanted to mention one of the sources that I used for this is a book called See How Much You Love Me and it's by Amber Hunt. It's really good and it like tells the whole story.

And then that rolling stone article that I'll post in the show notes. But yeah, this is the story of Tyler Hadley. Redone. So hopefully you think that it was worth it to redo. I think it was. I think it was an interesting trip down memory lane to say the least. And a long one. Alright guys, well, you know where to find us and we hope you keep listening and we hope you keep it weird. But not to worry that you throw a ranger with your dead parents in the next bedroom because that's just really fucked up and like definitely feel bad about it.

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