Morbid - Episode 236: Lake Lanier

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Starting point is 00:01:28 That's ANGI, or download the app today. Hello, welcome to Morbid. It's Memorial Day Morbid. It is! Right, yeah, yeah. That's a holiday. Yeah, it's this holiday. It is, it's the holiday that's here. It's Memorial Day Morbid. It is. Right, yeah, yeah. That's a holiday. Yeah, it's this holiday. It is, it's the holiday that's here.

Starting point is 00:01:48 Not today, but like this weekend. It's the holiday weekend. It's the holiday season. Except it's not. It's holiday again. Take a break again. Crack into it. It's morbid at night, which means it's weird.

Starting point is 00:02:02 It's weird, and it's a little different. Because Alaina and I said, well, all these people are probably gonna be celebrating out by the water, yeah, going to some lakes, putting on some suntan lotion, like getting excited to get a nice glow, I guess. Soak in in that vitamin D.

Starting point is 00:02:20 And then just jump into the lake where everything's usually fine, right? Lakes. Lakes are so peaceful. Lake houses, lake boats, lake docks, all those things on lakes. It sounds like you really know a lot about lakes. I do, I'm often at a lake. Well, honey. We are gonna be covering Lake Lanier, which is in Joja.

Starting point is 00:02:44 Joja! Joja! So what's up Joja? We are gonna be covering Lake Lanier, which is in Georgia. Georgia. Georgia. So what's up, Georgia? I hope none of you are on Lake Lanier this weekend because you're gonna wanna leave after we're gonna stop the so we're gonna scare you away from it. So we're really gonna scare you away from it.

Starting point is 00:02:58 Yeah, I think we decided this week was gonna be like weird, spooky bodies of water week. Yeah, I don't know. There's no real reason for it. We tied it to a holiday weekend, but yeah. I don't know if it really makes sense. And you know what? I have to mention this too before we start.

Starting point is 00:03:13 So I had already decided that I was gonna do this episode. A girl I went to high school with that I was like friendly with posted on her Instagram story, like all about like linear. And I was like, oh my god, like a message shirt. I was like, I have to cover this. And she was like, I thought of you. Why have you not?

Starting point is 00:03:27 Which is so funny. So I decided I was gonna do it. I kind of started it. And then I was just like, you know, in my research process. And somebody on Twitter was like, hey, like, you guys should consider doing an episode on Lake linear. And I was like, are you in my brain? Like, it's so weird.

Starting point is 00:03:41 I feel like that happens a lot. It does happen a lot. I'll be thinking of doing an episode. And as I'm thinking about it, somebody will suggest it in the inbox or in Twitter or something in a break in Twitter. And she's a geriatric millennial. The old just said in Twitter. You're showing your geriatricsy.

Starting point is 00:04:00 Whatever, man. Whatever. Whatever. But it happens a lot. So I feel like that's just because our listeners and us are so connected. We're just on the same wav longs. Yeah, I feel like we're always vibing together. I feel like we're just one.

Starting point is 00:04:16 We're on the same lake linear. We're all together as one. And we just also wanted to point out that the Laurie Valo and Chad Debel news. Whoa, holy shite. We, Ash is definitely going to be doing an update because she covered that case so well. Yes, yes, yes, yes, thanks. And so we'll be doing an update on that for sure. So don't worry, it's definitely coming.

Starting point is 00:04:41 We've just been watching it play out. Exactly. We initially, when they found found the bodies on the property, we were like, oh, we have to put them. We were like, then I wanted to see what was going to happen. Yeah. So we weren't just constantly doing an update episode. Yeah. We figured we just, we get it all going once.

Starting point is 00:04:57 Donating again. So we'll be doing that. So you know what, maybe you can, I mean, I'm not promising anything because I don't like to do that, but maybe you'll get a bonus episode next week. Yeah, there you go, it could happen. I don't know. I don't know. All right, but let's all sit tight and see what's happening.

Starting point is 00:05:13 Yeah, hold on to your butts. Hold on to those butts. But what I do know is that you're getting an episode today. So are you ready to get into this? I'm ready, I have my floaties. I feel like I just went like full back to like full cheerleader. Are you ready to get into this. I'm ready. I have my floaties. I feel like I just went like full back to like full cheerleader. Are you ready to get into this? Okay. No, I have my floaties on. I have like the white sunscreen on my nose. Yep. Do you have? Oh my god. The other day, we went swimming and Elena

Starting point is 00:05:38 was like, I just made me think this Drew's gonna fucking kill me for telling this story. I love it. I just kind of just maybe think this Drew's gonna fucking kill me for telling this story. I love it. He has one of those like nose pictures because he I think he like, I don't know if he like learned to swim with his like closing his nose. Yeah, he just he oh he always has to hold his nose when he goes underwater. So he was like instead of holding it, nothing does it for me. And I was like, that's genius. But then he jumped into the water and I'm pretty sure it fell off.

Starting point is 00:06:03 So well, you know what else fell off when he jumped into the water and I'm pretty sure it fell off. So, well, you know what else fell off when somebody jumped in the water? I hold on, okay. Literally, so John was so excited to jump into the water. It was the funniest shit I've ever seen in my life. And he, him and Drew jumped at the same time and they each lost something. Because John is mid-air cannonball

Starting point is 00:06:20 and I'm like, why does he have his glasses on? This is full of glasses. But it was like far too late to tell him. And he hit the water and then he'd be surface. And Ash said, funny, you just jumped in there with your water and with your glasses on. I was like, why did you do that? And he was like, oh shit.

Starting point is 00:06:38 And they had to dive down and get them. But he was that excited to just jump in a body of water. It was so very funny. It was really cute. Yeah. I like seeing them like grow out and jump in a pool together. They are the cutest. It was very cute.

Starting point is 00:06:51 Let me just tell you that. I like that. I like that we found people that mesh well together. Yeah, I love that. Yeah. You always want to find somebody who mesh as well with your like best human. With your significant other. Humans, other best human.

Starting point is 00:07:04 I'm your best human. You're my best human. human, other best human. I'm your best human? You're my best human. You're my best human. No one honestly based on some of the people that I've dated in the past. Woo-hoo! Yeah, that could have gone a very different direction.

Starting point is 00:07:15 Alina has never liked a single person that I've dated. Nope, never have. Not one. Never have, we'll see. No, it's not a truthful confidence. Drew came along, I was like, there it is. Yeah, you guys are like best friends too, and I'm always like, oh, okay.

Starting point is 00:07:27 I love Drew already. I love Drew with the power of a thousand sons, same. All right, well, let's get into it. That's a liquid linear. I was like, linear. I do too, I looked it up before, because I knew I was gonna fuck it up. But why am the worst?

Starting point is 00:07:43 Yeah, like linear's fucking wild. Like any article you read about Lake Lanier will tell you that it was a very controversial project even from the start. I love a controversial project. Oh, yeah. You are a controversial project. I am a controversial project. But for years, like before they even broke ground, the US Army Corps of Engineers wanted

Starting point is 00:08:04 to make a man-made lake. There's a few reasons that they wanted to do this. They definitely wanted to produce hydroelectric power, especially to Atlanta, which was now like pretty like up and bustling. Happen. Happen. Oh, you said hoppin'.

Starting point is 00:08:17 Same thing, I wasn't gonna go, I wasn't even gonna correct. It was a hoppin' and hoppin' and. They also wanted to protect downstream areas from flooding, use the lake as a reliable water supply, and also use it as a fish and wildlife management support. So that was on their PowerPoint presentation that they put together.

Starting point is 00:08:37 I love that. There was many, many things that halted this project, even from even beginning in the first place. It was kind of almost like the universe was like, no, girl, don't do it, girl. Like, that's what the universe said. She was like, no, it's not gonna go well. The universe is out of breath.

Starting point is 00:08:57 Yeah, but she is because she was yelling. So the Great Depression actually put the project on hold for a while. But in 19, that little blip, yeah, that'll do it. That'll do it. That Great Depression. Always puts your plans on. Really put a damper on a bunch of shit.

Starting point is 00:09:13 It did, it did. Oh, we can't continue today. It's the Great Depression. They were like, yeah, we can't spend like $47 million on taking this lake because there's not $47 million even circulating right now. So it's not going to look good. But in 1947, they did get the go-head to build the Buford Dam

Starting point is 00:09:30 and then go on to create the lake. OK. However, there were a few problems. The first was that Florida, Georgia, and Alabama were all arguing about the logistics of what the lake would be used for and the requirements that it would consist of because they all had like access to this water There was like two water basins bassins that met and bad

Starting point is 00:09:51 Chargjabit. I said that I'm purpose water bath water baths And then so they got over that and then once they got over that No one was agreeing on what the lake should be named. Oh my God, they're so whiny. They are. And everybody get along. And then there was this whole problem of that. They had to clear about 57,000 acres of land. Oh, okay, that little problem.

Starting point is 00:10:16 That was like very much being used for farming, living houses, fucking businesses, churches, cemeteries, like, yeah, this is going well. Yeah, I don't really understand the whole plan, but it's off to a great day. It did happen. And they finally broke ground on March 1st, 1950. And actually more than 5,000 people attended

Starting point is 00:10:40 this like groundbreaking event. And I mean like actual groundbreaking. Like literal groundbreaking. Not like we're into priestly like groundbreaking event. And I will like actual groundbreaking. Like literal groundbreaking. Not like we're going to priestly like groundbreaking. Little different, like literally breaking the ground. Correct. Yeah. Yeah.

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Starting point is 00:12:37 Follow the rewatcher, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen early and add free on the Amazon Music or Wondery app. -♪ Darn, ee-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e went unnamed for a long time. Who I love that. And then finally they decided to name it after this like wonderful guy named Sidney Linear. He wrote like this awesome song called the song of the Chattahoochi. He was a poet, obviously a musician, and he also was a Confederate soldier. Oh no.

Starting point is 00:13:21 So the fucking worst, like sorry Sidney, but you're not it. Oh. Now it was also alleged that the sons of the Confederate veterans actually like asked that this lake be named after him. Damn. And it's nice. So what the fuck? It was troublesome from the start.

Starting point is 00:13:37 Yeah, the hindsight is 20, 20 years ago. Certainly is. Like, but I felt like that was a foresight. Bad choice. That should have been a little bit of foresight. Yeah, yeah. I think everything leading up to the lakes thing should have been foresight.

Starting point is 00:13:50 Yeah, so far, this is just like, what are you guys? Also, man-made lakes are weird to me. I don't get it. They're weird to me. Drew is telling me that there's one in Massachusetts. Yeah, there's quite a few. So it's not like an uncommon thing. It's just strange to me.

Starting point is 00:14:06 And I don't know why I feel like it's completely up to the earth to make links. I'm like, you know what the problem is? All on her shoulders. Mother Earth holds that burden for me is that you need to make links. That's not what I thought. But she did.

Starting point is 00:14:22 She made great links. She made great ones. Actually. You know, I think we what I thought. But she did. She made great lakes. She made great lakes. Actually. And I think we should have just left her to it. I think, I mean, she's proven her worth in the making lakes business. And I think we're proven that we don't trust her apparently. And we've proven that we make like haunted lakes.

Starting point is 00:14:38 So I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah. I think we don't listen to her a lot. We probably should start listening to her. Yeah, I just don't think we should have elbowed into her business. Yeah, like listen to Mother Earth

Starting point is 00:14:49 and listen to Greta Thornberg. There you go. I said her name correctly, didn't I? It is Thornberg, isn't it? It is. Listen to her. No, bad. She knows her shit.

Starting point is 00:15:01 Listen to her. All right, anyways, this is more but at 9 a.m. You couldn't tell my brain has been going up today. But today, the 692 miles of like linear shoreline borders, hall, foresight, jossin, guinnet, and lumpkin county. And also, I think that lumpkin is a much better name for pumpkin. We should just call them lumpkins.

Starting point is 00:15:21 Because they're lumpy. It truly is. And they're umptkins, so like why not? I love that. Cool glad we're in a hurry. I love it. Pumpkins. Now the water of Lake Lanier reaches 258 feet at its deepest.

Starting point is 00:15:35 No. And it has claimed, are you ready? 675 lives that we know of. Guys, don't swim there. 675 lives. we know of. Guys don't swim there. 675 lives. That's a lot. And at least, or excuse me, over 160 of those deaths have happened in recent years since 1994. What's happening?

Starting point is 00:15:59 Authorities say also that there are at least 24 undiscovered bodies in the lake. And for that reason, many believe Lake Linear is haunted as far. There's just 25 bodies in that lake. At least 24 undiscovered bodies in the lake. Just chilling. Oh, no. Bitch, when we get into this, you're going to lose it. No.

Starting point is 00:16:20 So Oscarville, which is a town located in Forsyth County, was one of the main towns that was going to need to be flooded for the birth of Lake Linear. Yes, you heard correctly. They were just going to flood a whole last town. Multiple whole last towns, actually. Oh, okay. Yeah, okay. Now, we have to talk a little bit about the history of Oscarville because I think it also was a warning sign to just everybody involved. Yeah. It's located in Forsyth County, which probably sounds familiar to you

Starting point is 00:16:51 if you heard our episode on Tamblal Horse Ward. That's the county that she was from. The county is historically known for a pretty incredibly racist past. Yep. And in my opinion, I feel like it could have something to do with the darkness surrounding Lake Linear. Yeah. Because before the lake existed, there was an immense amount of racial attention in the area.

Starting point is 00:17:12 Now, a young woman named Sleedy May Crow was viciously beaten, raped, and killed on September 9, 1912. She was found unconscious laying in the woods near Brown's bridge and close by what would later become like linear. Now some reports say that at the time she regained consciousness and was able to identify her attacker, but that could not be further from the truth. When she was found, she was found unconscious and then they brought her to the hospital and they were, she never regained consciousness. So that's just false reporting and the reason that they were false reporting is because they were trying to push a narrative

Starting point is 00:17:51 that the murder was committed by the black residents of the town. Of course. Because back then it was like terrible. Yeah. And I just wanna let you know this is gonna be like like very triggering probably. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:18:03 For like very much racially charged incidents about to follow. So immediately the closest black residents to the crime scene were taken into custody. Of course, yeah, that makes total sense. No questions asked. They were just like, who were the nearest black people? Which is the most fucked up thing. I just so weird to me.

Starting point is 00:18:22 What? It's so weird that people, it's weird to be the people ever were this terrible and then it's weird to me that people still are this terrible. It's like I can't around my brain around it. Now one of the people taken into custody was Ernest Knox who was a 16 year old boy at the time. He was the one who confessed to the crime and actually named several other boys that he said were involved. But it was later revealed that he was coerced into confessing because they mock lynched him to show him what would happen if he did not confess.

Starting point is 00:18:52 What? They mock lynched him to get him to confess. Oh, fuck. And like, probably we're like, this is what's going to happen if you don't confess. And if you do confess, like, you can avoid this. Yeah, absolutely. That's exactly what they were doing. And as we've seen with like you can avoid this. But yeah, that's exactly what they were doing. And as we've seen with like West Memphis three in shit, that's a thing.

Starting point is 00:19:09 Real false confessions do happen under duress. Absolutely. And you just don't know. Yeah, so they forced him to admit to a crime that I don't believe he committed at all. That's crazy. Now instead of standing by knowing that something terrible was probably gonna happen to these young black men sitting in jail now,

Starting point is 00:19:27 the Sheriff Bill Reed just decided to go home and leave one fucking deputy, one deputy, to like protect all these prisoners if an angry racist mob showed up, which we all knew was gonna happen. Which that's never happened before in history? No, that's shocking. Yeah, they couldn't have seen that coming. No, never. No, not at all. And actually, I guess the sheriff Phil Reed had beef

Starting point is 00:19:50 with the Steppity because they were running against each other in an upcoming election. So he definitely did it to be in one hundred percent. In multiple ways. Yeah. Now Rob Edwards was another 24-year-old black man and he had also been implicated in the crime. And he was in one of the cells that was guarded by that single deputy. Now, in his book called Blood at the Root, which I absolutely recommend reading, it's really good.

Starting point is 00:20:14 Patrick Phillips described what happened when the racist mob showed up at the jail that night. He said, quote, the lynching of rub edwards involved a very large crowd gathering outside the jail, dragging him out of the jail, beating him with crowbars, and then dragging his body around town behind a wagon. Then eventually his corpse is hoisted on a telegraph pole, and everyone in the crowd takes turns shooting into his body. There's very few times where I literally don't, I can't even form words. No, because it's just how the fuck do you do that to another human being who you full well know did not commit this crime. Like you, you guys all know that he didn't. You're just trying, you're just using him as a scapegoat and all these other voices scape

Starting point is 00:21:02 goats. Wow. And things are young men with their entire lives ahead of them with families who also were being intimidated at the time. We're really just in the wrong place at the wrong time with the wrong skin color. Exactly. That's, wow. Exactly.

Starting point is 00:21:17 That's really, who? It's terrifying. Now, Ernest Knox and Oscar Daniel, who Oscar Daniel was 17 at the time, they were publicly hanged as well, even though public hangings were illegal by that point. Now the night- No, nothing would happen. No, of course not.

Starting point is 00:21:33 The night before the hangings happened, the blind that was built to shield people from seeing these hangings was burned down so half of the county's residents could come and see the next day. And they did. Oh, yeah. So after Slidie May's murder, so half of the county's residents could come and see the next day. Oh. And they did. Oh. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:21:46 So after Sleedy May's murder and the claim of another young, oh, excuse me, another young woman, that two black men raped her after breaking into her bedroom, white residents began just tormenting black residents in Forsyth County. These white residents called themselves night riders and they would ride around shooting into the homes of any black residents that were still left in the county. Oh, I remember reading about this

Starting point is 00:22:10 with the Tamla Horseford case, and when I was doing the research on the like the background of the town. My God. Or the county that was. That's, I mean, it's like that not only are these human beings like that you that have done nothing.

Starting point is 00:22:24 They own their properties. But it's also like that you that have done nothing they own their properties But it's also like you don't know if there's like children in those hot like you don't care You don't care at all. They don't care about any of this no like that's truly outrageous And not only were they shooting into their homes They were killing their farm animals to intimidate them and obviously make them lose their money And they did this until about 95% of the black community left the county. And then eventually more and more people left to the point where there was only a handful

Starting point is 00:22:50 of black people left and they worked on a farm. Like for a white man obviously, it's just so fucked. And actually to this day I looked it up and I believe the last census, the census that I looked at was 2019 I think. And by that point, Forsyth County only has a 4.4 black population. Yeah, because I remember it, I mean, not shocking.

Starting point is 00:23:11 Not shocking, and absolutely shocking. Absolutely shocking, all at the same time. So the reason why that ties into like linear is that some people believe the lake was not only created for the reasons that I mentioned earlier, but also to kind of like, just get rid of an incredibly dark past, just literally erase it by just submerging it in water. Yeah. As most of Oscarville was submerged by water when the lake was made, only a few parts of Oscarville are actually around to this day. But it's like you're not burying it, you're just like adding another weird dark layer onto it. Yeah. Like you're not going to be able to get rid of that bad energy.

Starting point is 00:23:49 No, absolutely not. With some water, with 250 feet of water, like no, you're just adding a whole bunch of shit on top of it. That's all. Exactly. And seep into there. It's all going to come out at some point, which we will find out. Now, the US Army Corps of Engineers began offering property owners money for their land. And in total, it's believed about 700 family

Starting point is 00:24:10 sold their land. They got about $30 per acre, which is shit for money. Yeah. But most of them regretted selling because they realized they weren't paid enough. And also, they were like, you can't put a price tag on my home that I, that has probably. My memories, my. My memories in a lot tag on my home. That's probably my memories.

Starting point is 00:24:25 My memories. And a lot of it was farmland. So these farms had been in families for generations and generations. Now, the first man to actually sell his property was an 81 year old man, which just, I'm like, you took his home and he's made one. His name was Henry Shadburns. And he sold his 100 acre farm for $4,100.

Starting point is 00:24:49 Today, that would be $45,000. Oh my God. For 100 acres of land. Holy shit. Today, $45,000. Wow. Like, there's not even a word. Like, I was literally, I was looking up synonyms

Starting point is 00:25:06 for the word steel and none of them felt appropriate. I felt like I was like, steel stolen, like robbed. Like, there's not even a word for that. Yeah, that's, I mean, wow. A hundred acres for like, $45,000. I wish, bitch. I can't even picture 100 acres. Like, I can't even visualize that. I can't even picture 100 acres. I can't even visualize that.

Starting point is 00:25:26 I can't picture like five acres, to be honest with you. We get to 100 and I'm like, so that's just a town. I'm like, what? It's just a continent. What do you do? Literally. No way.

Starting point is 00:25:36 So the land that wasn't already occupied by homeowners was occupied, I think I said it earlier, by Cemetery's churches, businesses. So they say that all of the bodies in the Cemetery's were relocated, but a lot of people question if that's actually the truth, especially when it came to relocating bodies and unmarked grapes.

Starting point is 00:25:54 That's never the truth. It's never the truth, never the way. Ever, ever, ever. They never move all the bodies. They never do it. Because they get tired or sometimes. They get tired. They get tired and they get tired. And they just want to make their like, they don't, they don't hydrate enough. They did need lunch and they get tired or sometimes they get tired they get tired and they've already and they just want to make

Starting point is 00:26:05 They don't they don't hydrate enough. They did need lunch and they never move all the bodies and they didn't start What happens they just don't and especially that I hate to say this but the ones in unmarked grave It's just yeah, they just don't yeah, they just they don't they want to get home for the voice and they just stop They stop moving bodies it happens every time it does I've never heard of a thing where they're like, they moved to the cemetery and they got everything. Nothing ever happened. In the cemetery and they put them all in marked graves

Starting point is 00:26:30 and everybody was happy and no one was haunted after that. Butterflies, they didn't. It's always, yeah, they said they did, but we don't think they did. They definitely did. I saw one article where some guy was like, they definitely did. Like they could never get away with that if they didn't.

Starting point is 00:26:43 And I was like, hey, so they submerged it in like a shit ton of water. So like no one would really ever find out if they didn't. And they've definitely done it. And like what? You need to calm down. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:26:55 So that's good. And all of the buildings left standing were either relocated or burnt down to only their concrete foundations. Awesome. Which personally, maybe I'm'm too much of an empath, but I feel like homes have feelings and vibes in them and burning them down, burning down that many places

Starting point is 00:27:14 is just not good. Yeah, I think, you know what, I feel you on that. I feel like it's, especially homes that people have lived in for generations. So it's like, they have an energy, they have a, they have like heartbeat. So there are some growing there. I don't know, I think I agree.

Starting point is 00:27:33 I just, something about it. You're like, I agree with your statement. I'm like, I agree with your statement. You're like, you know what? Me too. I stand by it. Me too, I do agree with me. And so yeah, there's, so they were burnt

Starting point is 00:27:44 onto the concrete foundations. And then trees were left, they were able to be left standing if they would be at least 35 inches below the full level of the lake. Excuse me, oh my god, not inches, 35. You know, in my head, I was like, I'm not 35 inches, that'd be crazy. 35 inches. So they were allowed to stay, remain standing if they were 35 feet below the full level of the lake. But even 35 feet is not that deep. No, like, I mean, I'm not women.

Starting point is 00:28:12 I'm not women. I was just gonna say I'm definitely not something that I want to be like, still. Well, when we're talking about trees. We're talking about trees, it's like, yeah. Yeah, it's fucked up. So apparently there's just a bunch of old-ass trees and like concrete foundations just lying deep beneath the surface.

Starting point is 00:28:26 All right, I think I might have that thing because I'm terrified of dark water. Oh yeah, like a terrifying and deep water. Oh, like just thinking about it. I just got like that. It's scary because we don't know. Thinking of their fucking trees underneath me. No trees are above me, always and forever. don't think about their fucking trees underneath me. Nope.

Starting point is 00:28:45 No, trees are above me always and forever. Yeah, they need to be like next to me, above me, not under me ever. It's just a standard we personally have. It's fine if you don't. It's okay. And like thinking about like foundations of houses underneath me, like 35 feet under, no.

Starting point is 00:29:01 Because it just feels like they're sucking you in. No, that's like I'm getting uncomfortable and I'm on a couch I know like that's very comfy. I feel like we I know yeah, no, I know I can't I'm canceling my trip to like Lydia. Yeah, we were never going I'm canceling it and I'm not swimming in that water You think that's bad listen to this in 2001 the area was going through like a lot of droughts There's a lot of droughts going on. And the level of the water decreased so much that the top of the old concrete stands from Looper Speedway, which was an old racetrack,

Starting point is 00:29:33 were just visible chilling in the lake. Oh, no. The stands were people used to sit and watch races. They submerged a whole ass racetrack, my dudes. A whole ass racetrack. Are there photos of this? Just probably somewhere, yeah, like all over the place. I gotta look it up, because that is why.

Starting point is 00:29:55 Me and Drew the other night, we were just watching like YouTube videos of divers going underneath Lake Linear. It is the creepiest shit you will ever see in your life. Now that's not it, my guys, because the fairy system that used to be used was put out of business when the lake was made. And instead of getting rid of all the old fairy boats, they just also submerged to them.

Starting point is 00:30:14 So there's just old-ass fairy boats lurking down there, too. And divers say, they wanna play. They say that as you go deeper and deeper into the water, it gets incredibly murky, obviously. Of course it does. It is the pits of hell in there. It's literally hell. But when they have been able to find things along the floor of the lake, it's just super fucking creepy, because there's, like I said, old house foundations, boats that have sunk to the bottom, and also just potentially invisible forces that like don't want you lurking in the waters. Also potentially the forces of hell that are thunder there.

Starting point is 00:30:50 Maybe. Ready to drag your ass down with them. Maybe. Potentially. Now this like really experienced diver guy was like I wanna check this out for myself. His name was Buck Buchanan, which I'm obsessed with. Buck Buchanan.

Starting point is 00:31:01 He said, quote, you reach out into the dark and you feel an armor a leg and it doesn't move. That's creepy. Bucks. Yo. Bucks, that's more than creepy. Bucks, that's a crime.

Starting point is 00:31:14 That's a true crime underwater. Bucks, Bucks. Bucks, call someone. You feel a leg, we gotta talk to someone. That's more than creepy. We gotta mark the spot with an ex. Yeah, we gotta podcast about it. What is this arm and leg that you're feeling underwater?

Starting point is 00:31:29 He just said, that's creepy. That's creepy. It's a little more than that, Buck. It's a situation. What? One might say that's unsettling. And then, Mama, many of the people who were close to drowning in the lake,

Starting point is 00:31:43 they say that they feel hands around their legs pulling them underneath the water. Get the fuck out of here. Or they'll be like swimming. And the other thing is a lot of the drownings that have happened, happened pretty close to the shore. Yeah, because this is a demon. Yes, it's a tale.

Starting point is 00:31:59 But it's like people will say that they're like swimming and they're totally fine. And then suddenly, they just like, all the breath comes out of their lungs and they just like can't breathe and then invisible forces pull them under. So like, I don't know why you guys are still doing this. Why do you think this is? Why do you think this is? Stop swimming in this lake.

Starting point is 00:32:16 But you know, I will play devil's advocate here so that all of you don't have to yell at me. I'll tell you, this lake is definitely a spot where people go to party hardy. Over 7.5 million people visit the lake each year. I'm confused about why you're all still going. Yeah, all 7.5 million of you that are listening right now clearly Don't go there. Don't stop it. Don't go there. Stop it. Stop laking now Georgia actually in the past years has attributed the high death rate to the number of visitors The lake attracts obviously, but like I don't think they realize that they submerged like hell water. Yeah, I mean, yeah, I tell.

Starting point is 00:32:49 But a lot of drownings or accidents have been alcohol related. And so much so that in 2013, they actually changed the blood alcohol concentration level from point, excuse me, 2.08 for operating a boat on the lake. It used to be 0.10. Oh, that was great. If I can crash my car at that rate, I feel like a boat is almost a little bit more dangerous.

Starting point is 00:33:10 Because you have more openness. And people aren't swimming in the road. They're swimming in the water where your boat is, where you should be a point 10 of drunkenness. That's literally a fact, you are right. That's literally in the dictionary. It's in the thing. It's in the books.

Starting point is 00:33:27 That's it. Yeah, I mean, it makes total sense that the amount of people that go to this, like, for years. Yeah. And the fact that they're all, like, partying, hardying. Yeah. It's like a party lake, for sure. And I mean, they probably make good money now

Starting point is 00:33:41 because there's like, there's a fucking, like, restaurants along the shore. And there's like, there's a fucking restaurants along the shore and there's different places to go. There's a hotel, so like, of course. But if you're going to a lake, guys, I know it's fun to party by a lake, but like, it's so dangerous. Like, bodies of water are so fucking cool.

Starting point is 00:33:59 Get fucked up for some of the beach for people. Be my guest, but stay out of the water if you're fucked up. Take the load of the water, and you can't, but it's like if you're partying on the beach, I know it's fun. But like, you can't be sure that you're not going to go in the water. Right, like, because you're acting a fool. Yeah. So just don't.

Starting point is 00:34:14 Don't. Listen, party girl herself, I love to party. Like, not anymore. I'm like, we were actually just talking about how different I've become. I'm just like an old woman. But I never partied on a lake. No, it just feels like it's just opening up too much. Like we just covered the smiley face, deaths.

Starting point is 00:34:29 And actually that comes in here. We're opening up a lot of like, just, you know, a lot of cans of water. A lot of air can happen here. And by the way, actually, this lake was never intended to be used for recreational purposes. That's the most important thing. I've been a whole last group of reasons before,

Starting point is 00:34:45 and not once did I say, for tubing and swimming and getting drunk and going on your boat. I didn't say that. I never said that, so. I didn't say that. And there's also like a ton of areas that are marked with no swimming signs, and people just ignore them all the time.

Starting point is 00:34:58 Yeah, I mean, the fact that like an entire civilization is literally submerged underneath it, it should be like reason enough, probably not to swim in there. Yeah. But usually I get it. I get it. Everybody wants a challenge, I suppose.

Starting point is 00:35:13 You swimming among submerged trees and people's memories and fairy boats. Yeah. And the pits of hell. Yeah. You know, you do you, but like, be careful. Please. Definitely be careful, because a lot of weird shit

Starting point is 00:35:28 goes down around this. I'm worried about all of you. Yeah, she's a mom. You're all her children. But, so a lot of weird shit goes down here. Like, beyond the point of what I've even mentioned so far. I'm concerned. So let's get into one of the most famous ghost stories

Starting point is 00:35:41 surrounding the area. Please do. The lady of the mother fucking lake. The lady of the lake. I added the mother fucking, but I bet she'd appreciate it. It felt right. I don't know if she would. Now, well, I don't know her, but I don't know her.

Starting point is 00:35:55 It was 1958, so I don't think they said mother fucker that often. She probably felt a little repressed. Who am I to know? Maybe she'd like it now. Yeah, actually, yeah, yeah. I think she did feel repressed. So in April of 50th, in 1958, Deelia May Parker, young, and her friend, Susie Roberts,

Starting point is 00:36:10 were driving to the three cables, which was a local roadhouse in Dawsonville, Georgia. They actually went to a gas station and left without paying. So that's why I think she maybe felt repressed. I was gonna say that's pretty rebellious, so. Yeah, they were rebels without a cause. Now, Susie was the driver,

Starting point is 00:36:26 and while driving over the Lake Linear Bridge for some unknown reason, she just lost control of the car and crashed off of the bridge, submerging the car into the lake. Oh, yes. Now, they knew that the car had gone into the lake because of the skid marks left on the road

Starting point is 00:36:41 and like on the road of the bridge, but it would be 31 years before Susie's car or Susie were ever found. Damn. Now before that in 1959, before Susie got found, a fisherman discovered remains floating along the surface of the lake, but the body was like very bloated. I mean, it had been a year at this point

Starting point is 00:37:02 and really hard to identify. And they were actually unable to identify these remains, or a cause of death for this particular body. But they did note that the body was missing both hands and two toes on the left foot. What? Yeah, I don't know if it was just like probably, like the elements of hell in the bottom of the lake.

Starting point is 00:37:22 It was just hell. Hellaments. Hellaments. Hellaments. It was the lake. It was just hell. Hellaments. Hellaments. I like that. It was definitely the hellaments. But a ton of people thought that the body could have been Suzy's or Delias, but since they couldn't determine, that to be true right then and there,

Starting point is 00:37:37 the body was buried in Altevista cemetery in an unmarked grave. But a lot of locals who experienced the lady of the lake phenomenon speculated that the body was delias because delia had been wearing a blue dress that night and since the accident cars passing on that particular bridge would see like a seemingly lost woman, woman wearing a blue dress pacing up and down the area and she was missing her hands. Oh! What? Imagine seeing that.

Starting point is 00:38:09 No. I don't want to either. Now when Susie's car and her remains were found, they were doing construction to build a new bridge. And that's how they ended up finding it, because they had to dredge the lake bed to install the pillars of the bridge. And when they did that, they found a rusted car

Starting point is 00:38:24 with a body sitting behind the wheel, not a body anymore, but you know what I mean. And they were able to determine that it was Susie's body through dental records, I guess. Damn. Which I'm like, damn, your teeth survived. That was shit. I had to like double check 42 times because I was like, I shouldn't have teeth anymore. I didn't have teeth. But she did. Yeah, your teeth are pretty gnarly. She did and have a body. It was just made of bone. Muchie had teeth. Oh, now, but this has a happy ending because now they were pretty sure that the body that

Starting point is 00:38:54 they had found was delias. And so Susie was laid to rest in the altavista cemetery as well next to the formerly unmarked grave that was now marked deliaylia Mae Park, right now. Oh, okay, good. So at least they were able to ID. I mean, sad, but good. Sad, but good. And I think it makes sense too

Starting point is 00:39:11 that Dylia was the one haunting the bridge because she was the one who was discovered first and left unidentified for so long. Yeah, and she might have been trying to be like, hey, my friends still down there. Exactly. You gotta get her. I think that's what it was.

Starting point is 00:39:23 Aw, I know. What a bummer. I know it's like it's like a happy bummer because like they got reunited. I know and I feel like one of them was trying really hard to to help to help their sister out. They were each other's best Alright, well the next urban legend is that of the floating raft, which has been seen by multiple people in the lake at night. Okay, so this one, this is how it goes. They see like a shadow figure just like sitting on the raft and holding a pole to steer, like basically like to use the ground to like judge forward to judge forward, you know, as one does. And a lantern they're holding to see in the dark.

Starting point is 00:40:11 Yeah, that, you know, that sentence structure was just perfect. It was. And that's a very normal thing to see in the dark to me. Always a shadow figure with a lantern and a pole jushing them so forward on the lake. Seems pretty chill, except it doesn't at all. No. Because there were two fishermen one night that saw the raft in the distance and they were out fishing at like one in the morning. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:40:33 And it was like a pretty cold, I mean, I don't really understand why they were fishing at one in the morning, but like, Insomnia, I guess. Get it? It was like a cold night. It was like, I guess in the middle of fall. And they probably weren't really expecting to see too many other people out there doing the same thing. I wouldn't. Neither. I wouldn't

Starting point is 00:40:50 be there in the first place, but you know, that's neither here nor there. Correct. But they spotted the man. And right away they were confused because the lake, the part of the lake that they were sitting on and like he was pretty like sitting on as well was about 45 feet deep but the man in the distance wasn't seeming to have trouble using the pole to let him himself forward. And like the pole didn't seem to be 45 inches long plus 45 plus inches. You know so I mean feet goddammit you love you fucking love an inch. I do. We love the inches. Give you a foot and you take an inch. Yeah. That's what it's about. No, that's not true. If you just said so 40

Starting point is 00:41:32 that's that's a bad joke. Dad joke. Um, and can you imagine though a 45 foot pole and he's just like, no, you're gonna be so forward with it. Yeah. Just at one a.m. 45 plus two. The water is just 45. D. Just be in a human. I'm so forward with it. Yeah At 1 a.m. 45 plus two the water is just 45. D's be in a shot I'm just gonna not say measurement units of measurement anymore just never 40 it was 45 just context clues You'll figure it out. It was deep But yeah, he didn't seem to be having any trouble moving himself forward and you know, I don't know It then shica crazy out of nowhere. The man stood up on the raft which seems chaotic and exactly what it's

Starting point is 00:42:13 shouted something at the bend to further create chaos and then to like bring that chaos level to a Hunnet, he dove into the water. Oh, stop. Like in their direction, it's the fall, sir. Good up. Yeld something and then dove into the probably freezing cold water. The freezing cold hell water. Hell water.

Starting point is 00:42:34 They panicked. Like, oh my god, what's about to happen? But when they flashed their light back, where the raft had been, nothing was there. Oh, I hate that. I really don't like that one. So that'd be the raft. I don't like that one at all. That's that's almost like the red headed hitchhiker on Route 44. I was just like, I don't know. It just gave me that feeling of like, no, it's

Starting point is 00:42:58 there. Yeah, it's there. So what's not now? See now that one. I feel like if I had to choose, like choose your own adventure between two of those things. I choose the raft. I would choose the raft because that guy on the red headed hitchhiker ends up in your back seat. Yeah, that I'm not okay with. At least this guy doesn't end up on your boat, because no.

Starting point is 00:43:16 Fuck that. No, I don't want that off my boat. Get off my boat. We're gonna need a bigger boat. Thank you for saying it. I literally was like, eh. Ah! We were literally just watching that thing

Starting point is 00:43:24 on Jaws the other day too. I literally was like, eh, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, like, shark attacks have been happening? And there's been so many sightings. And sightings, yeah. And so I think one of my twins was there and was like, what is that? And I was like, oh, that's not real. And I was like, don't, that's a movie. It's just about a big, crazy shark. Everything's not really fine. Yeah, I was like, don't worry,

Starting point is 00:43:58 that's not how big sharks are. Oh, my God. And so I know them. So I found a documentary about the making of jaws and I was like, they'll love this. It was cool. Fucking loved it. Like my two five year olds were so into Bruce,

Starting point is 00:44:12 the fake shark. Bruce, they were all about it. They wanted to know if Steven Spielberg went to many years of school to become a director. They were like very interested in this. I love that. If your kids are scared of sharks or something, show them behind the scenes of jobs, it's fun.

Starting point is 00:44:28 You're going to have to go beep when they yell shit sometimes, but it's okay. It's okay. Just yell beep. They've definitely heard TTC shit before. In fact, like for some reason, I have been saying like, oh, that's sexy to like everything. Oh, God. One of your kids was showing to me. You're like, like a bunch of stuff to animals that they got.

Starting point is 00:44:45 And I almost just went, oh, that's sexy. And I was like, I can't say that. I'm not doing that. I got the wrong. I feel like, no, we don't need that. I was like, that's great. That's special. That's special.

Starting point is 00:44:57 T.T. is not meant to have kids like this. T.T. is rocking the T.T. life for now. I love it. I love it. But that was a little side tangent for you. Well, I was actually behind the scenes of jobs. That was actually perfect because now we're kind of getting like into some like real concrete shit.

Starting point is 00:45:12 So I needed like a little segue. Oh good, okay, I'm happy to do that for you. Thank you, best human. So yeah, we're gonna get into some real concrete mystery that has gone down near and in the lake because we're gonna talk about the disappearance of Kelly Nash. And this is a case that has stumped near and in the lake, because we're going to talk about the disappearance of Kelly Nash. And this is a case that has stumped people for years. So Kelly was born on September 15, 1989, in Alabama,

Starting point is 00:45:33 to his parents, Alan and Beverly. He had been attending Georgia Gwinnick College with hopes to become an accountant, and at the time he was also working for his dad's construction company. So he was just like doing the damn thing. He's really doing the damn thing. Yes, and he also had a pretty long-term girlfriend named Jessica. They had been together for three years and they just moved into a home together

Starting point is 00:45:55 around this time in Buford, Georgia. But Kelly disappeared early on the morning of January 5th, 2015, and he had disappeared not too long after he woke up, which is like, it's just like weird to me. Yeah, so where'd you go? Exactly. So he had been having a ton of sinus trouble as of late and he wasn't really feeling great. He woke up coughing and sneezing a ton, and he couldn't get back to sleep, but he didn't want to disturb his girlfriend who was asleep next to him.

Starting point is 00:46:26 He was like, she's got to get up in the morning. So he decided to head out into the living room on the couch to play some video games and he was like, I'll just fall asleep there when I do. And that way I'm not bothering her. So Jessica did end up waking up around like four and was like, oh Kelly's not sleeping next to me, but she heard his video games coming from the living room. So she went to check on him. He was still there, and he explained that he wasn't feeling

Starting point is 00:46:49 like, oh, shocking, I thought something different was gonna happen. I know, that's why I passed that one. He just explained to her, you know, he wasn't feeling well, couldn't sleep, yada yada yada, and she was like, okay, like, cool, went back to bed, cool. She woke up again at 7.30 to let the dogs out

Starting point is 00:47:04 and get ready for work, I assume. Cool, let the dogs out, Jessica. to bed. Cool. She woke up again at 730 to let the dogs out and get ready for work. I assume. Cool, let the dogs out. Jessica. Jessica, what? Okay, quick side note. I just found out that that's like a super like feminist song. Oh, really?

Starting point is 00:47:14 Yeah, I don't know the exact fucking explanation right now. Oh, cool. I saw it on TikTok, but it's all about feminism. I saw it on TikTok. I did, I saw it on TikTok. I learned a lot of shit on TikTok. That's just favorite sentence. I saw it on TikTok TikTok. I learned a lot of shit on TikTok. That was just favorite sentence. I saw it on a TikTok.

Starting point is 00:47:26 It absolutely is. But anyways, Kelly was not in the living room anymore at that point. Oh, no. By 730, he had disappeared from the living room. Oh, did it disappear? What happened? So his game was idle. So it had paused itself, I think, is what that means.

Starting point is 00:47:41 Oh, okay. Like it had timed out. Like lack of activity. It was like Netflix, are you still there? Yeah, exactly. And everybody. Oh, okay. Like it had timed out. Like lack of activity. It was like Netflix. Are you still there? Yeah, exactly. And everybody was like, no. And she, so she noticed that that was going on.

Starting point is 00:47:50 And then she noticed that the garage door was like slightly open. Huh. Now Kelly's truck was still parked out front and his wallet was left behind. And I believe his cell phone was left behind as well. What was missing though was his nine millimeter, see units of measurement. There it is throwing you for a minute. His nine pistol, a single clip was also missing.

Starting point is 00:48:14 And in some sources, I read that his car keys were missing and then another, they were left behind. So that one's quite true. Shoot your own adventure on that one. Yeah, but at least like a lot of things that he would have needed were missing. Yeah. Or excuse me, we're there. Yeah. Without him.

Starting point is 00:48:28 We're not with him. And then like creepy stuff was missing, like a single clip for a pistol and a pistol. Yeah, that's weird. Yeah. And Kelly's family was like freaked out obviously when he was reported missing because they were like, this is not like him.

Starting point is 00:48:44 He had a ton going for him, and he would not have just walked up and away from his life. I mean, you hear that all the time. His father actually said, quote, he saw what he wanted in life. He had it figured out and was working to get there. Strong relationships were what he wanted in life. Kelly wasn't driven by money,

Starting point is 00:48:59 but by doing things the right way. Yeah. So it's like, like, the whole thing of him getting up because he didn't want to disturb his girlfriend's sleep because she had to wake up early next morning. It's like he cared about her. Yeah. He was considerate enough to do that.

Starting point is 00:49:13 Yeah. It doesn't feel like someone who's ready to just walk away from that person. No, definitely not to me at least. Yeah. So the search for Kelly included helicopters and search dogs, but they just could not find him. There had been a surveillance footage found of Kelly earlier that night at a gas station where he seemed to be

Starting point is 00:49:29 acting really normal. He was actually on the phone with his girlfriend, and I believe he bought some cold medicine, so it was like before everything had happened. Yeah, but they released it because it showed what he was dressed in. He was dressed in pajama bottoms and a dark colored shirt, and that was also the last thing that Jessica had seen him missing before, or excuse me, wearing before he went missing. And then there was also footage of someone walking by that same gas station in the early morning hours around 4.30 a.m. The footage is like too grainy to really make out any appearances.

Starting point is 00:50:01 But strangely enough, there was also an arson that went unsolved at the gas station that same night. So he went missing grainy, weird footage where they were like, I don't know if that's him, and then there was an unsolved arson. Yeah, that's just a lot of weird stuff. Super duper weird. Now, the body of 25-year-old Kelly Nash was found about a month later on February 8th, 2015. Kelly Nash was found about a month later on February 8th, 2015. A fisherman discovered him in Lakeling, uh, Plentyers. I know I almost said that too. Because I'm looking at it and it's L-A-N-I-E-R.

Starting point is 00:50:33 So I wanna keep saying like, Lanyer? Yep, that's exactly what my brain does. Lanyer. Okay, a fisherman discovered him in Lake Lanyer by Shadburn Ferry Boat, about two miles from his home and not far from his father Alan's home who lived on that same road. Oh, which I assume is actually named after that guy who sold his land earlier. Yeah. Now they were able to identify Kelly because he was wearing the the dark shirt and the pajamas that his girlfriend said and that we had seen at the gas station.

Starting point is 00:51:00 And he also had some tattoos that were able to be used to identify him. Now at first they didn't realize that upon the medical examination, he had one single gunshot wound. Rumored to be to the head, but you cannot find concrete evidence that where of where this... Like no confirmation. There's no confirmation of where the gunshot wound was. And I have searched far wide. I want to see that autopsy report. I typed in Kelly autopsy, did it all, and it did not work. Huh. And his gun that was missing from the house was never found. So while he was missing still,

Starting point is 00:51:38 there were rewards of up to $50,000 for information. And during that time his family hired a private investigator, but that kind of only deepened the mystery, because his father said, quote, this is the problem, we can't find anything bad that Kelly was associated with. While we've tried, you're starting, you're trying to find a starting point. Is there something that he was doing that none of his family members would know? This is not a young man tied up in some dark world situation. There were rumors that like it was something drug related or something like that. But I think that's like the first thing that a lot of people would jump to.

Starting point is 00:52:13 Of course, but I think his father saying that is like no, like he wasn't wrapped up in the stuff so that only makes it more confusing. Like not only do we not know about him being involved in anything like that, but like even digging into it. We didn't find anything. We can't even uncover stuff that he was hiding. Right. And like, I mean, I have an investigator who's always find crazy shit usually. But they did not believe that he had walked two miles in the rain on a cold night to end his life. Though many do, many people do believe that it was simply a suicide and some people say that they think he went out to The dock that night like near the water and shot himself so that he would like end up in the water And there wouldn't be a big mess for anyone. Yeah, I mean, it's not out of the realm of possibility by any means

Starting point is 00:52:59 No, of course not now other people Think that Jessica might know more than she's saying. And I didn't include her last name just because I didn't want like rumors to start and everything with that. But while searching, WebSloots actually, I found that she had been previously married to a man named Jason Baker, who died in an accident. Oh, which is just like a little bit weird,

Starting point is 00:53:20 but you can't find anything about his death either. Like a search for his obituary or anything like that and you can't find anything about his death either. Like a search for his obituary or anything like that, and you can't find anything about that. So I'm definitely not pointing fingers here. It's just like some people say. It's just an interesting tidbit story. Exactly. But theories aside from suicide actually point to the smiley face killers. That's, wow. Which is like super duper weird because we just covered that. But I don't really think it's fitting in this case. Yeah, especially because I don't know if that's even a real thing.

Starting point is 00:53:49 I mean, I do, but I don't think it fits here. But other people say that, because the garage door obviously was open, and people are like, well, maybe he heard something outside, went to investigate with his gun and ran into something nefarious along the way. Yeah. So it's still unsolved. Yeah, that's all very, it's all very like just bizarre. Yeah, and honestly like all of the theories seem pretty plausible.

Starting point is 00:54:11 Yeah, I mean you could definitely, every single one that was presented, you're like, all right, I guess. I guess so, like none of them are like, oh yeah. Right. Right, like all of them are just like, okay, yeah, that could have happened. Yeah, which is rare. Usually it's, you lean towards one or none of them are just like, okay, yeah, that could have happened. Which is rare.

Starting point is 00:54:25 Usually it's, you lean towards one or none of them really fit the bill, but this one is like, yeah, all of that makes sense. That all kind of makes sense. But it's like just the mystery of like, linear. Yeah. That lake, man. That hellish hellish lake. Because no matter what, even if it is, you know, a suicide, he went to Lake Lanier.

Starting point is 00:54:45 Yeah, exactly. It's cool there. Why was he drawn there? Yeah, so that's creepy no matter what. It really is. And tragic no matter what. I was literally just going to say I'm so tragic. We're stealing each other's worries.

Starting point is 00:54:56 We are because we're each other's favorite human. Yes. So we're going to talk about another case, but this one is a murder. And it's also unsolved. A murder. So Hannah True Love is another girl that went missing and she was discovered near by Lake Linear.

Starting point is 00:55:12 Her death was like I said, 100% murder, but again, never solved. She was just 16 years old when she went missing on August 24, 2012. Oh, man. A little baby. She had last been seen hanging out with her friends at her apartment building. She lived there with her mother. They were last seen hanging out around 730 on August 23rd. But she was later found murdered in the woods next to the lake the next day. She had been stabbed multiple times.

Starting point is 00:55:43 She had been stabbed multiple times. What? Yes, and they said that they weren't sure that she died of her stab wounds, but like, maybe bleeding out or something like that, but... Oh, God. There was a lot of... There was an issue because in the days leading up to the murder... Oh, actually, hang on, sorry. We're gonna get to that.

Starting point is 00:56:01 We're gonna get to the issue after. You're like, wait a second. I read my notes the wrong way. But in the days leading up to the murder, this is super creepy. She was tweeting just like some very strange things. She mentioned having a stalker in one tweet. What?

Starting point is 00:56:16 In another tweet she said, so scared right now. Then I went to look at her Twitter myself because it's still up. And you can definitely tell that she was going through something with her friends. Like, she was tweeting about people being fake. And like, oh, you know, like, I don't need you. Like very, very, very, very, very,

Starting point is 00:56:31 like, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very,

Starting point is 00:56:40 very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, things. Like, quote, I'm going to start driving to school again, mark my words. It's like, why? Like, I feel like that means something. Like, I'm not, yeah.

Starting point is 00:56:50 Like, I'm not comfortable walking to school. And then she tweeted, I can't do this by myself. What? Like, I can't. That's, to me, sounds like I can't protect myself. Or like, I can't handle the stress of this myself. Right. So this is the part

Starting point is 00:57:06 that I was saying like unfortunately there was a really big storm the night that Hannah went missing and when she was discovered Lieutenant Dan Franklin said she was quote laying under submerged water for a period of time and so unfortunately what that did is it washed away a great deal of archery evidence

Starting point is 00:57:22 and blood evidence so that's why she did have multiple stab, but they weren't sure if she died of those, because none of them were really life-threatening. Yeah, and that water man. Water, steel, and the fuel. A lot of crime scene. As we found out last week and the week before. Exactly. Now, there were a few reports of suspicious cars in the area of the apartment complex that night. One was a 1990s to early 2000s,

Starting point is 00:57:50 Ford or vehicle believed to be either a Chevy or a Dodge with front and damage. And the investigator said of that, that they think the people in that car could have some pretty valuable information if they would just come forward. Wow. But so far, I haven't seen anything of them coming forward.

Starting point is 00:58:09 But it's like, they're definitely... They're definitely... Tell me. Well, and I think they're definitely keeping something close to the chest with this investigation. Yeah. Because they're like, we know that this car was in the area and we know that the people in there have valuable information,

Starting point is 00:58:22 but it's like, there's way more to that. Yeah, there has to be way more to that. Because I agree with you that I think they're just they're holding something. And it's also confusing because it's like well if you knew who they were, then couldn't you just like go talk to them? Yeah. But it's like you don't know who they are, but you know that they have valuable information. It's just like we have like three pieces to a hundred piece puzzle.

Starting point is 00:58:42 I think that's what it is. It's like we have like the we have three of the corner pieces. Yeah, and nothing in between Now Hannah had also been seen walking behind a teenage boy who had pulled into the apartment complex with two other teen boys In a silver car now she was seen alive after that, but what was weird? walking behind a teenage boy who had pulled into the apartment complex with two other teen boys in a silver car. Now she was seen alive after that, but what was weird was that she had been walking with this boy behind the apartment and it was where they ended up was not far from where she was later murdered. Okay. Which is just like kind of weird but weird for sure. Worth mentioning, but yeah. It doesn't sound like he had to be like it's not like kind of weird, but we're mentioning, but it doesn't sound like he had to think

Starting point is 00:59:25 it's not like the smoking gun, but yeah, it's weird. Now her mother, Mona, says that her daughter was a quote, funny, loving, compassionate child that did not deserve anything like this. And she thinks that whoever did this was someone who had a new, yeah. And she said she recognizes the possibility that it could be a random act, but she has a gut feeling that Hannah knew the person. Yeah, that's stalker stuff. Stalker stuff.

Starting point is 00:59:50 And then stabbing is personal. It is, I mean, it's definitely. Obviously, there's times where I say, that's a tough one just because so many people stab people and don't know them. That is true. But I think when you connect it to the stalker and something's a little off there,

Starting point is 01:00:09 it's just like there was some nefarious dealings around her. And just not even the stalker stuff, but just the fact that she was clearly going through something at the time. And there was seem to be arguing with maybe her friend group or something. I don't know. Just seems weird.

Starting point is 01:00:24 It reminds me of a Skylar niece kind of situation. It does. And Twitter is involved, of course. And it's always weird to hear these cases where Twitter is a thing. Because we deal with a lot of cases where social media is not a thing yet. I know.

Starting point is 01:00:37 So it's always weird when you can go back on these tweets. It is weird. What state of mind somebody was leading up to it. I actually did that with the Alisa Lam case and going through her Twitter and like Tumblr and stuff. Oh my god, I actually just got chills because her Tumblr and her Twitter, I don't actually know if,

Starting point is 01:00:56 I don't think I looked at her Tumblr, but her Twitter I looked at, and it just left me with this eerie fucking feeling. I looked at her and she had a Twitter, that's crazy. I looked at hers in like the middle of the night. Hannah's I looked at early in the morning, so it was a little less creepy, but very still creepy. And also she was beautiful.

Starting point is 01:01:12 Of course. Absolutely gorgeous. Her father said that he knows that one or two people saw what happened and he wishes that they would come forward. Now I don't know if he means he knows that because he's heard things or he just knows and in his heart and his gut. Yeah. This happened. Yeah. But he wishes they would come forward and just like say who did this to his to his daughter to scoop closure. Yeah. Now anyone with information regarding this case is asked to please call the Hall County Sheriff at 770-531-6885 or crime stoppers at 1-800-222-TIPS.

Starting point is 01:01:49 And I will also link that in the show notes or put that in the show notes. Awesome. Now, bad things really truly never seem to stop happening at Lakeland. Yeah, because so far so good here. I'm gonna give you like a couple other brief things that I found during the research process.

Starting point is 01:02:03 These aren't like super far in depth but they are definitely worth mentioning. They are things. A man named Jason Millen went out to fish on November 17th, 2019, and while he was like out there, fucking lining up his bait, I don't know what to say. Well, he was out there, you know, fishing, doing that fish thing. What do they say when you're baiting the line? Is that what it is? Baiting that fucking line. Yes, that's what they say. Worms, that's what they say. I have no idea, but while he was doing that, he saw something shiny underneath the surface of the water,

Starting point is 01:02:34 so he went a little closer and actually went over it with his boat. And he realized that it was a mother fucking van. No. No. His boat was over. No. fucking van. No. No. His boat was over a van. No. That's a phobia and I forget what kind of phobia it is,

Starting point is 01:02:50 but it's one I have. A like bitch-donges. A like bitch-donges. Yeah. Like big submer- You should Google that one. I don't. I don't want that at all.

Starting point is 01:02:58 I don't want that at all. I don't like it at all. I think I've probably mentioned the story, like at least three times between this- Are you talking about the ship right now? Absolutely, and I don't even care because we get new listeners sometimes. They need to know.

Starting point is 01:03:10 When I went, I don't know, it's snorkeling, I think, in the Bermuda triangle with Drew, he was terrified to do it, but he did it for me. And when we were over those shipwrecks, it was like the coolest, but the creepiest thing I've ever done in my life. Because you feel like you're being like, like they're gonna like swallow you.

Starting point is 01:03:28 You feel like it's gonna suck you in. I don't know what it, or I feel like it's gonna grab me. I just, I don't know. You just feel like something's gonna pop out of there. It's too spooky. But when the van was in sub-mechanophobia. Sub-mechanophobia? Yes, that's the fear of submerged man-made objects.

Starting point is 01:03:44 All right, well, like count me in because. Yes. That's, no, that's the fear of submerged man-made objects. All right, well, count me in because. Yes. No, that's actually just the fear of Lake Lanier. Yes, literally. The fear of Lake Lanier. That's it. Now, when the van was investigated, they found the remains of a 56-year-old man inside. His name was Van Dobbs, and he had been missing since June of 2018.

Starting point is 01:04:04 What? Yes. I guess he just like crashed his car off of like a bridge or something nearby and it was a van there. And it was a van. And his name was Van, that's weird. I know it is super weird, but it was a silver minivan. Oh, that's so sad.

Starting point is 01:04:19 Yeah, I know. I know. Like people just drive off a bridge or something or like having a crash and you end up in that hellhole. No. No, people just drive enough a bridge or something or like having a crash and you end up in that hellhole. No, no, thank you. And the news reporter, this is just like, this is a little bit lighthearted and silly. The news reporter for the segment that I watched on this,

Starting point is 01:04:33 I just thought like a little news clip and he said, when the lake level drops at linear, who knows what you'll find? I was like, not a game I'm really interested in playing. I was just like, whoohoo, woohoo! Everybody look out! Check out! Maybe we'll find some more corpses. Everybody look out!

Starting point is 01:04:50 It's like, who? I'm actually good. Stay tuned for News 8. Like, okay. Thanks. Okay. Now, this blew my mind because I did not know. I knew that this happened,

Starting point is 01:05:01 but I didn't know that it happened here. Usher, like the star, like Usher, like do need I explain more? Like, yeah, yeah. I was thinking more like these Mac and Fashers. But his stepson Kyle Glover was critically injured in July of 2012 on the lake, Lake Linear. Well, he was tubing with a friend. I remember this. Yeah, he and his friend Jordan Shep were on the inner tube when they were struck by a jet ski.

Starting point is 01:05:31 And the jet ski was driven by a family friend Jeffrey Hubbard, who was later found guilty on charges including homicide, serious injury by vessel, reckless operation, unlawful operation of a personal watercraft and a boat traffic violation. Yikes. Now, apparently before this all happened, he was just being super duper reckless on the jet ski and just being pretty much being old, 80-odd.

Starting point is 01:05:58 Yeah. And his mother, Kyle Glover's mother, was on the boat and saw Jeffrey zooming toward them. So she saw this all happen. And her husband dove into the water and got them. Oh my God. But Kyle Glover, like I said, was critically injured. So he went to the hospital and he was there

Starting point is 01:06:16 for like a week or two. And he was hooked up to life support, but eventually they had to pull the plug on the life support because he was declared brain debt. I do remember this. I remember that story. Now, Jeffrey Hubbard was actually sentenced to four years in prison for this. And Kyle's mother, Tamika Foster, said, Kyle was the most creative genius songbird.

Starting point is 01:06:39 Both funny and handsome. I'm so grateful for my time with him. I can smile today. Oh, this one that gets me. I know. I can smile today because I never missed a beat as his mother. He knew daily that I loved him so much. Oh, which is just just destroy my heart. Like ruin me. Destroy it. Now as recently as this past Mother's Day, there was actually a boat explosion on Lake linear. Oh, okay, just the boat explosion. Mother's Day. And the cause of the explosion has not been determined yet. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:07:09 Of course it has. Lake Linear. I was gonna say cause of explosion. Lake Linear. Hell. Or is it Lanier? No, linear. Okay, linear.

Starting point is 01:07:18 Okay, sorry. Because I remember that when we, before we started me up and started, I put it into Google and I put the ladies' voice on slow-mo and she was like, Lake Lonear. Like you. Because we say Lonear. We say Lonear.

Starting point is 01:07:32 I think we do like a A. It's love, near. We do A. We do an A. Back to this boat explosion. There is a water park called Margaritaville on Lake Lonear. Yeah, that's a few.

Starting point is 01:07:42 I mean, that's Helly others. There is. And there's a fueling dock nearby and that's where the boat exploded. Oh, shit. Now a family on board included parents, Annie and Steve and their three children. Taylor and Gunner, who are 16 and 13 respectively,

Starting point is 01:07:56 were actually airlifted to the hospital and have since been sedated so that they can get through the pain of their burns. They are expected to recover. But, oh my God. I saw a report, the last report on this, I saw was May 10th, I believe. And at that point, Taylor, especially,

Starting point is 01:08:15 she had the worst injuries, and she was expected to have a tap to spend at least another week being sedated. Because I can't imagine the pain. Oh, I can't. I can't. Burns, I can't. I can't. Burns, I can't even put my brain in that place. No, I really can't.

Starting point is 01:08:29 It's terrible. And this is a little, this is a trigger warning. It involves an animal before I say this. Their younger son suffered injuries and he's at home recovering now. And unfortunately their dog was killed in the blast. Oh, that's so sad. Yeah. There's a go fund me that their, their lake was killed in the blast. Oh, that's so sad. Yeah. There's a go fund me that their lake family, as they're called.

Starting point is 01:08:48 Oh, stop it. They call each other their lake families. I love that. The lake family set up a go fund me for the medical bills, and I'm going to link that in the show notes. Yeah. If you're able to help definitely do your best. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:09:00 I'm definitely going to. I'm just going to say I want to. Now, and I'm just going to end it here to it's a little a little more lighthearted. It's probably the lighthearted. Most lighthearted that we've got on this. I hope so. They're our reportedly catfish and the lake.

Starting point is 01:09:13 Oh shit, yeah. Whose size I have seen compared to 12 year old children and Volkswagen's. Oh, Volkswagen. That's a fish. The size of a Volkswagen. No thing. And also a Volkswagen bug, a Volkswagen jet-a-sweak.

Starting point is 01:09:30 Which one? Which one we talking about? The legend, no matter what. No matter what kind of Volkswagen. It's not okay. Swims by me. I'm gonna be upset. It's simply not okay.

Starting point is 01:09:41 I'm gonna be upset. Now this is fucked. And if you're a vegetarian, probably don't listen. Or vegan. Or you like chickens. So legend says that there was a truck in the 80s carrying live chickens and that it crashed off the Thompson Bridge,

Starting point is 01:09:57 because there's all like a ton of crashes surrounding Lake linear. Yeah. Now obviously it sunk to the bottom of the lake. And they say that when the divers had to go check out the wreck there, just to like see what had happened. They're like, I can't even like say this without like fully panicking. There were huge ass catfish fighting over the chicken carcasses and swallowing them up in one bite. No, no. And I'm going

Starting point is 01:10:21 to post a picture of these motherfucking catfish because Woe dang. Woe dang. You thought catfish with, with Neve was something? Honey, child. Let me tell you, you ain't seen nothing yet. Oh, fuck. A Volkswagen catfish. I'm very stressed out.

Starting point is 01:10:37 There's also some fishermen willing to back that story up and they tell stories of what they were outfishing and they like got their line on like one of these Volkswagen catfish bit their line and just fucking these people had their boats carried around the lake while they were trying to catch these fish. It's like, what? I am not well after that. I know Volkswagen should be swimming by me in a lake. It's just not a swaggy thing. I need in my life. This is like what I'm sitting here telling my five year olds, like no, Bruce from JAWS isn't real.

Starting point is 01:11:18 And then in the next round, Bruce from JAWS is so weird. I'm hearing that a Volkswagen can swim by you in like, and eat you up in one way. That lake. So'd bite that lake. So. Like maybe that's where the undiscovered bodies are. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:11:29 I think the catfish ate them. The Volkswagen fish. I think the Volkswagen's ate the corpses. Like that's not a cat. My cat weighs six pounds. That's not a cat. Unreal. That's an elephant fish.

Starting point is 01:11:40 And people say that these catfish can also create like, I mean, this is a lake. It's not fucking wavy. No. They can create like massive waves that have like capsized boats. I don't like this. This is not the most lighthearted part of this. This is the scariest part of this. I mean, it is correct. As far as time concerned. You're correct. I do not like, I mean, I've mentioned it before, I'm not a big water person. See, I am. And I don't like giant things in the water. It's not something I want to be a part of.

Starting point is 01:12:09 No, I hate that Lake Lanier has taught me that there might be giant catfish, Volkswagen, 12 year old boys. Like, he will be lurking below when I'm not going to Lake Lanier, but I'm gonna go to another lake. They're there. There's a Volkswagen under you. And like, catfish lips are all all all.

Starting point is 01:12:27 I feel like the whiskers. Oh, they're so, yeah. The thought of a fucking 12 year old boy, Volkswagen catfish. Just like, they say that they drown people because they just like accidentally get in their mouth because they're huge. That's not real, I don't think but

Starting point is 01:12:46 I don't know anything's possible when you fucking submerge an entire fucking multiple counties under a lake If you just don't believe you just believe anything's possible if you just travel to Lake Lydia. I don't this no I'm not like I'm out. I'm a land lover. Can we just say I am? I think this is what we need to do. I think we need to reverse it. I think we need to put our thing down. I was just going to say flip it. I think we need to flip it. And I think we need to reverse it.

Starting point is 01:13:12 I think we need to. I think we need Missy Elliott on the scene. Yeah. And I think she needs to press the button. And like, oh my God. I remember like when I used to watch Phineas and Ferb, Dr. Duffin Schmortz, evil incorporated, he would always want to like, oh my God, I remember like when I used to watch Phineas and Ferb, Dr. Dufin Schmortz, evil incorporated, he would always want to like, like, there was an episode where he like took all the water out of a lake.

Starting point is 01:13:31 And I think somebody needs to call him. Yeah. I think we do. I think that's, that's it. And just let's rebuild. We already have the fucking foundations, I guess. That guy and Missy Elliott together. And I think we're going to be okay. I think that would make a great music video, Missy Elliott, if you're listening. That guy, Missy Elliott, 2024. And you say Dr. Dupin Schmorts.

Starting point is 01:13:51 Dr. Dupin Schmorts. Yes. And Missy Elliott. He made a call up the right ad. I vote for them as a team. And they can do a song called Avaline Corporated. There you go. And also work on a project of taking the slate back.

Starting point is 01:14:04 Yeah, take it back. I think they can do it. Someone the slate back. Yeah, take it back. I think they can do it. Take it back. Someone has the receipt. Yeah, someone does. Someone's gotta take it for store credit. I don't know. I wish someone has to.

Starting point is 01:14:12 Someone has to. I'll take store credit. We'll take a gift card. I'll take a gift card. Yeah, I'll take nothing. Yeah, I'll just give it back to you. I'll eat it. It's fine.

Starting point is 01:14:21 Yeah. You know what I'm not going to eat? It's a 12 year old boy catfish. Guys, that was a serious, serious episode. And it was a very, that episode ran the gamut of emotion. It truly did. Because in the beginning, I was like, wow, this is heavy. And I'm feeling like a lot of stress and sadness about this.

Starting point is 01:14:38 And then it just, it just waved. It was like a catfish, Volkswagen wave. And it just took me for a ride. It did. It did, man. It was like a catfish, Volkswagen waived. It just took me for a ride. It did, man. You're welcome. And like I said before, I care about you guys, so don't be stupid around bodies of water. Yeah, come on, man. Especially not this weekend. I want all of you to live for a super long time, and especially past this weekend. Be safe. So everyone be safe. It's a holiday weekend. Make good choices. But yeah, just make good choices. Call me. So everyone be safe. It's a holiday weekend. Make good choices.

Starting point is 01:15:10 But yeah, just make good choices. Call me if you want me to all around. Call us if you need us. We're here. We might be there. We're here to help you. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. We're here to listen at least. Yeah, that. So, wow, thanks, Ash. You're welcome for that. And we'll be adding to your fear of water in the next episode. Yeah, stay tuned. So literally tomorrow. Well guys, we hope you keep listening after that. I hope you do. And we hope you keep it weird.

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Morbid - Episode 236: Lake Lanier

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