Morbid - Episode 237: The Curse of Manchac Swamp

Episode Date: May 31, 2021

For our second installment of creepy ass bodies of water, Alaina tells us the story of Manchac swamp in Louisiana and a voodoo healer called Aunt Julia who predicted her own death AND informed the town that she’d be taking them all with her. Boy did she follow through on this promise. We also share 2 listener stories regarding not only this area in Louisiana but also Lake Lanier! As always, thank you to our sponsors:  Daily Harvest: Go to DAILYHARVEST.com and enter promo code morbid to get twenty-five dollars off your first box! Pretty Litter: Do what I did and make the switch TODAY by visiting PrettyLitter.com and use promo code morbid for 20% off your first order Chili Technology: Head over to chilisleep.com/morbid for ChiliSleep’s best deal, available to Morbid listeners for a limited time! Rothy’s: Upgrade your closet with washable, sustainable, stylish shoes and bags from Rothy’s. Head to Rothys.com/MORBID to find your new favorites today. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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That's ANGI, or download the app today. Hey, weirdos. I'm Alaina. I am a sh. I wanted to do the cool thing. It is morbid. Welcome back. Okay. It's the holiday weekend still.

So I hope you're not floating on Lake Lanier. I hope you're not. And we are, we decided to take, you know, morbid into like a weird place this weekend because of the holiday weekend. We did indeed. Instead of taking a week off, which why would we ever do that? We never do that. We decided to just make it really weird.

And Lakey. And Lakey, very watery. Yeah. Very liquidy. Very vacation spots. Very vacationy. Except mine, I don't know. I wanna go there.

I don't know if everybody else does, but I think at the end of it, you might. I'll find out. I don't know much about. It seems pretty cool. You're a thing. So I think what we're gonna do today is I have a really cool swamp in Louisiana.

Ooh. Cause I love Louisiana. And I love swamps in Louisiana. And I wanna go to this one. There's a fact I did not know about you. I love swamps in Louisiana. Who doesn't love a Louisiana swamp? Um, I don't know.

It seems awesome. Probably a lot of people. There's so many cool stories about these swamps. I'm gonna be covering Manchak Swamp today. And after we talk about Manchak Swamp, you know what it is, some spooky haunted tales that go along with it, then we are going to talk,

well actually a listener actually wrote in and had told us something to do, not with Manchex Swamp in particular, but with Louisiana. And one particular thing that I'm going to talk about, so I just wanted to like shout them out. I know that's cool that that happened. And then we had, since Ash covered Lake Linear,

yeah, the last episode, we also had a listener tell come in about Lake Lanier, which was perfect timing. So we figure, why not throw someone's personal experience with Lake Lanier after we've heard all about the catfishes that are Volkswagen, that are gonna eat you. Ladies who are just gonna, I don't know what they do. Where are they dressed?

Where are they dressed? And somebody who's gonna float on a raft ladies who are just gonna, I don't know what they do. Where a blue dress I get. Where a blue dress I get. And somebody who's gonna float on a raft with a 45 foot stick. It's time for the water. Like if you just like, you'll find a van there. You'll find a van there. Two vans. You'll find a whole damn civilization

at the bottom of Lake Lanier. That's certainly not. That's certainly not. And I hate it. I hate it. And I hate it. So is it. And I hate it. I hate it. So wait, is there a civilization under your swamp?

There is not. Okay. No, my swamp is just a swamp. Just a swamp. But it's got a really cool story to go along with it. Oh, and a lady who is like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Is she just walked around saying, whoa, whoa. No, she walked around saying something much scarier than, whoa, whoa.

Oh, no. Yeah. Oh, no. Yeah. Oh, no, no. We're going to be talking about Frenier, which is 25 miles northwest of New Orleans. Frenier is like a ghost town now. It's really just exists. Yeah.

But it used to be like a booming logging town along with Ruddick, which is where Manchex swamp is really like around. It's surrounding. Basically, to get to these towns, you is where Mancheque swamp is really like around. It's surrounding. Basically, to get to these towns, you would have to use the swamp back then. Yeah. Also, can we talk about the fact that it's freinear and linear? I know.

Is that like, lear-ish? Sort of. Yeah, we didn't mean to do that, yeah. Yeah. And cute. So, in the 1800s, early 1900s, you would literally like boat down the swamp to get to the next town love that. Yeah, so it's crazy.

It's located in John the Baptist Parish, Parish, which I love that Louisiana had their parish names are like so much. They love it. Like John the Baptist Parish. That's awesome. That's awesome. It is.

You're not wrong. It's just cool. I just, I'm like fascinated by Louisiana. Louisiana as a whole is very fascinating. The entire state, like I love you guys. I think it's the coolest state. It is. I don't disagree with you.

Not just Nolan. I think that, and I know that's like really annoying to people who don't live in New Orleans or who do live in New Orleans. But I think New Orleans is great, but I think Louisiana has such like, like I know we were just saying this, but I think it's like, has such like a Southern Gothic vibe to it. Like anytime I'm on like TikTok or something, and my TikTok knows me now.

Isn't it the best for your TikTok-ass to know you? It's really cool when you're just like, that you get me. Just gets you. So now I get all these like vibiestetic people who just do creepy things in like Southern cemeteries. Like just walk through. I love that.

Just walk through wearing like some cool, like witchy outfit. Like a misty day. A cool, like cool music playing. And it just is like hashtag Southern Gothic. And I'm always like, yes, yeah, that's also a really good podcast. It is a really good podcast, that's a phenomenal podcast.

I want that podcast. Go listen to that podcast, and I think he might have covered like Manchex want. Oh shit, yeah, or something, I think he covered part of it at least. Cool, go check it out. So yeah, we're talking about Frenier, which really doesn't exist, but it's still kind of there.

It did. At one point. It did. And it went out with a bang. And it was a time. It doesn't now. The reason it doesn't exist anymore, we are going to get to.

And Wozler is at a story. So the swap itself is really gross. It's like really cool, but it's like green. Like pee green. The swamp. But it's like this one's like super green. And it's got tons of alligators in it. So if you're not worried about the ghosts

that I'm gonna talk about, you should be worried about the alligators. Definitely be worried about that. Definitely what you think of when you think of like a haunted by you, you know? Yeah, I'm picturing it in my head right now and I feel like I'm doing my brain doing a good job. Yeah, it really, it just gives you that whole vibe. And the one thing that everybody probably, especially people from Louisiana

listening are probably like, what about the curse of Budu Queen, Julia Brown? Oh no! Because I know you guys know it. I'm sure the good curse. We love a good curse. I love it so much. So she's sometimes referred to as Julia Black, but I'm pretty sure everything else I saw was Julia Brown is like her name. Okay, so we're and it's called the curse of voodoo queen Julia Brown. So she lived in frontier after moving there in the 1860s after her husband passed away. She built a little cabin that still exists on the edge of the lake. When are we going?

Or swamp. I keep saying lake, it's a swamp. When are we going? I want to go to this cabin so bad. And she was also known as a healer and a voodoo priestess. So she was just an all around cool lady. She was doing the damn thing. She was just cool.

Like, that's awesome. Yeah, that's really cool. She's built a cabin on a swamp in Louisiana. And I was like, who I live here when I heal you. And I think it's basically like a folklore in Louisiana tradition is known as a traitor. I think it is. It's like a French word. So I'm so sorry if I butchered that guy.

Louisiana people tell me. Yeah. Because I love your state. I want to get it right. People in the community would go to her to basically just cure what ailed them. Right. Back then it's not like doctors were like really doing anything, except being like do some cocaine about it.

I was literally just going to say like handing you some cocaine for your problems. I'm sure like the cocaine of it all. Rub this on your goggles, you'll be fine. I think she was the one that they would go to to be like, Hey, like my head's been hurting and she would cure them. Like she was really good at it. They needed her. They really like she was kind of,

it's hard to explain, just like she was beloved in that way. Sure. But it's also kind of like that she was ignored outside of that. Like they used her when they needed her. And then they were like, she's kind of weird outside of that, which is like not cool. Well, she's not weird. She's helping you. No, she's, you.

Awesome. We would have been at her cap in every single day for dinner. I would have brought dinner as well. I would have been hanging with Julia all day. Yeah, I didn't expect her to cook for me. She sounds awesome. And what she, like,, this is just bonkers. So what she would do at night, and she would do this during the day, but at night it was

a lot creepier. Of course. She would sit on her, she had a rocking chair, of course, on her little car. Yeah. You can picture this cabin. Yes, I literally can. I know every single one of you are picturing a cabin by a swamp in Louisiana, and that's exactly what it looks.

Picture it, Louisiana, a long, long, long, long, long time ago. Just picture it. She would sit in her rocking chair on her porch on her handmade cabin on a Swamp and Louisiana. And sometimes she would strum a little guitar. Okay. And she would sing a lot. And a lot of times she would sing really eerie songs.

And many of them were like predictions. Oh. Yeah, so people started calling her actually the big bad. Oh, that's not very nice. Because her predictions and prophecies about people usually came true. And she knows what's up. So basically, like she was known as an oracle. So if you would float past her, go into like town

or whatever you were doing, she would just start strumming and say, what's up? Tell you what's up. And you would get a prophecy. Oh, sometimes. So if you didn't like good for you and you can just keep going, I was gonna say you probably didn't want one.

And she definitely like specialized in like telling people like when they were gonna die. You know, you're gonna get really ill soon. And like, no, I don't wanna know that. But she predicted some bad stuff that happened in surrounding towns too. And she was correct. So people were starting to get a little freaked out by her

and they were like, they would literally ro past her and just be like, please don't, please don't, please don't, please don't, please don't, like people just didn't want to know, but she just let them out. She's gotta let it out. She's gotta, I mean, yeah, she's gotta let it out. Yeah. She had just as expectually a to have all that inside. It must be exhausting. That's really tiring. So, you know, it's not her fault.

Then 1915 comes around. One of the townspeople is just just tooting their boat down that swamp right past. They used to call her Aunt Julia, love it. Aunt Julia's cabin, she's sitting on her porch and she's just calmly rocking in her rocking chair and everybody said it was like this the squeak of the rocking chair. Oh yeah, I heard it before you said anything. Yeah, it was just that squeaky rocking chair. She's just sitting there, watching everything go by. And they said that she had this creepy smile on her face as she was doing it.

And she rocked back and forth and she started singing, when I die, I'm gonna take you all with me. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. So, that's what that gives you. Ante. And she's singing it with a smile on her face.

When I die, I'm gonna take you all with me. I don't wanna go. And somebody was tutin' past her house on a little boat in a swamp filled with alligators here and that. I'd be like, really? I'd be like, why? Is it like invite? Like do I have to RSVP?

Cause I won't. Yeah. Apparently, and it's like confer and she started the town's person heard that and immediately was like, what the hell? And then people, that's it. Because this was 1915. Everybody started hearing her singing that. They'd go by and they would hear her sit and they're going, when I die, I'm going to take the whole town with me. And everybody was like, why? I think thing was going on. And there are documents that confirm that there are witnesses that say they heard her singing this all the time. Was she mad at everyone? Oh, she was happy as a clam, and you'll find out why.

But a very long time resident named Helen Slosserberg, she said, quote, Aunt Julia Brown always sat on her front porch and played her guitar and sang songs that she would make up. The words to one of the songs she sang said that one day she would die and everyone would die with her. Oh man. So it's like confirmed. And this guy who had first initially heard it, he went back and he told everybody because he was like, her predictions are always true, right? And you know, like we're all gonna die with her.

As you ride by her, she's giving you a prophecy more often than not. And sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad. But if she's singing that shit at you, you better, you better heed that warning. You better move town, buddy. That's not just her singing like, oh, I have Twinkle Twinkle Little Star stuck in my head. She's like, no, like this, like I'm about to tell you all with me. Auntie Julia is telling you some business and you better make some arrangements

because she's taking a whole town with her. It's happening. You need to become a resident of a town elsewhere. You do. So everyone was freaked out when he tells them this. They're like, what are we supposed to do? And they're like, okay. So they're like, let's go check on her. Let's like, we should start,

you know, paying a little more attention outside of needing her, basically. And so they're like riding by her cab and just to see if she's going to sing it again. And suddenly she's not on the porch. And they're like, huh, so a couple days go by and they're like, what's going on? Why isn't she on the porch anymore? So now, of of course everybody's like, did she die? Did she okay? Like you should figure this out. So the next day, a few of them show up at her cabin and they find her dead.

Oh no. So they figured, first of all, she did a lot of shit for us and we kind of treated her like a pariah outside of me. You know, when we weren't asking her to heal us, we were kind of just being like, look at that crazy lady on the porch. And she was basically ostracized for having the gift of prophecy.

Like she was, people were treating her like kind of shitty for just knowing shit that was gonna happen and telling people. Right. But also, they were probably thinking, we gotta make shit right. And we have to make sure that her prophecy does get fulfilled without actually killing us all. Right.

We need to figure out a way to make this make sense and like, it'll be fulfilled, but not. Make it make sense. So they decided, let's throw her a massive funeral. Every single person in the town can be there so that it's like, when I go, I'm going to take you all with me so we're all there with her when she goes. Yeah, there's no loopholes with Auntie Julia. Yeah, I don't have like, you know, prophesizing has loopholes, but like they, I will give it

to them, they gave it their best shot. It's too late. They're just doing that because they don't want to die. They're not doing it for the right reason of loving Auntie Jules. No No, and you know what? Like let me just quick little side note, if you have like a voodoo priestess Auntie Julia in your town. Respect her. Respect her and cherish her. Cherish her. Hold her close. Because man oh man, I wish I had one in my town and I don't. So if you have one, hold on to her. Yeah. Yeah. Just I'd like one. Shender here if he does. Yes.

I'm not usually a hair. Like she's cool. She is. Also the garage door just opened and I just freaked out. Yeah. Every time it happened that terrifies me. It freaks me out. So the way they figure it, so again, they're figuring it's a technicality if you know, we're there when the coffin goes in the ground. Right. And you know, we're there, when the coffin goes in the ground. Right. And you know, we're all with her. Yeah. So they placed her in a coffin in a wooden box and placed that wooden box in the ground.

And they had everyone showed up, everyone paid their respects. Why'd they put her in a wooden box? That's how they used to do it anyways. But immediately, after she was buried on September 29th, 1915, the New Orleans hurricane of 1915 hit. No one and I when I say immediately after it happened she went in the ground and it started raining. No one knew it was coming because it's 1915 except obviously Julia Brown knew it was coming. There was no way to prepare for it, and they knew immediately this was what Julia was saying.

Wow. And so she wasn't saying like, I'm doing anything. She was just like mother earth is about to take it all. No, but she was fucking happy about like, she was smiling like, I'm gonna take you all with me. Yeah, because she was probably like, you've all used me all this time. Let's stick together now.

Exactly. We're all gonna stick together in death, motherfucker. Now, this was a category four hurricane. And it came hurling into New Orleans. And the winds are terrifying. And then made its way into the surrounding towns of like, Ruddick and Frontier. And it flattened them.

I mean, decimated these towns. It's all full. There was nothing left of them. 145 mile per hour winds flooding all, like all these swamplans and all the marshes, all the lakes overflowed and flooded into the towns. Oh, it's so scary. At 1.25 people in front of here, tried to take shelter in a railroad depot structure.

It collapsed under the chaos and killed all 25 people at once. Oh, no. 275 people died. Wow. And it took two full weeks for people from towns nearby to even attempt to come back into for a near, to look for survivors and like try to help at all. When they came into town, they took the only way in, which was Manchex want.

Right. As they came down the swamp, they could hear a rocking chair creaking and soft singing. But other than that, it was dead silent. Oh, man, that's so spooky. Then they began seeing things and what they were saying. So they're coming in and they're seeing things like draped over trees and like bobbing in the water in front of them and they're like, what is that shit? Then they get closer to them and they see that they are the bodies of townspeople who had been flung into trees and drowned in the snow.

Oh, that is dark. Yeah. One of the literally handful of survivors said that he clung to an upturned cypress tree and just closed his eyes while he could hear screaming all around him while people were dying. Oh my goodness. And when I say a handful of survivors, there's literally like count on one hand the amount

of people survived. That's so terrible. Now, Frenier and Ruddock again were leveled, completely gone, and they were just left abandoned. From the New Orleans Times pick a youn from October 2nd, 1915, that's the same newspaper from the Axeman. I knew it. The students were said to it.

It said, quote, about this, now this was in the newspaper. It said, the funeral was scheduled. And Aunt Julia had been placed in her casket, and the casket, in turn, had been placed in the customary wooden box and sealed. At four o'clock, however, the storm had become so violent that everyone left the house and is stampede, abandoning the corpse. The corpse was found Thursday, and so was the wooden box, but the casket never has been found.

What? Yup. Yo, that is crazy. So, Auntie Julia is out there. Oh my goodness, we Julia is out there. Oh my goodness, where is she? Now, those who survived in the surrounding townsfolk, anybody who was able to get out of this, which is not a lot of people,

they had to come do something about the debt. There's so many debt people. So they erected a mass grave, and they erected it at the highest point in the swamp for all these animals. Because again, they're not going to be able to digging that many graves. No, of course. And they're going to have to idea everybody.

So it's a mass grave. That's so sad. There was a fence that says 1915 on like a wooden thing. And then it's just a like there's wooden grave markers in there. But if you go today, you can see it. It's literally if you go down Manchexwomp, there's a gate that says 1915, and it's like the area where the mask rings.

Wow. And apparently, Julia Brown's memorial or grave marker is about 100 yards away separate from everybody else. But I don't know if she's there. I don't think she's there. No, of course not. Of course it's her memorial marker. But people will say now that if you go down Mancheque Swamp,

especially at night, you'll hear screams of a woman and people in there. And you'll also see Aunt Julia standing in the foggy swamp, wearing white and singing, when I die, I'm going to take the whole town with me. Oh my. And people who see the cabinet night, and her cabin is still there, can see flickering candlelight sometimes,

and they'll hear her still singing from the sky. And if you go to that mass grave in the cemetery at night, people say they hear chanting and singing, almost like a voodoo ceremony is going on like all around them Sounds awesome. Yeah, like and terrifying all at the same time. Yeah There is a tour that people I looked online and it's like got hugely amazing reviews for seeing this stuff and it's the Cajun Pride Swamp Tour. Oh cool. They actually purchased the land so they'll take you like right to it.

Oh that's cool. And it's supposedly like an amazing tour that I do really want to take. I can't wait to go. I think it's a half way. When are we going to Louisiana? Right, I need to go to Louisiana. I need to go to take. I can't wait to go. I think it's a perfect way to go. When are we going to Louisiana? Right. I need to go to Louisiana. I need to go to Louisiana. So there's the Manchak Swamp. Now there's also the Manchak Swamp bridge that has seemingly absorbed the curse of Julia

Brown. So September 14th, 1976, it collapsed with cars on the bridge. Oh my God, that is my biggest fucking fear. Yes, because a tugboat slammed into it. Well, fuck that tugboat. No, according to a clipping in the daily review newspaper from September 20th, 1976, the bridge attendant who was responsible for like opening the bridge and closing it to traffic, he had to delay the opening of it for an up like an incoming tugboat because a train was coming. Okay. So he said he and he testified

that he warned the tugboat four times that the bridge was staying down and he said he watched the tugboat slow down. It like came to a stationary position and seemed to be heating his warnings. But the tug and the tug was apparently stopped completely while the trains crossed over. But then it started to come forward before the bridge was open, like for so no reason. Right. So it was beginning to open and the tugboats slammed into the support beams like hard. Yeah. And collapsed the bridge.

Wow. And it had at least two cars and a truck that plunged into the water below. Oh my goodness. The tugboat captain said he never heard the warnings, but that's strange because he stopped. Right. So like what's going on here? Yeah, that doesn't make any sense. I think it might be Julia Brown just like just being just fucking around.

Moving things around. I mean, I'm not here. I'm, just being, just fucking around. Moving things around. I mean, I'm not here. I'm not here to point fingers at Julia. But I'm just saying this occurs. There's a curse about, so it could be happening. Right. It could have oozed onto this bridge.

Only two people survived the crash and the rest were never found. What? They remain in the water below. Jude. Yeah. All these people that are just never found. I'm honestly people who are never found in water. No.

I found another body of water that I'm definitely covering in an upcoming episode. It's gonna be like the new spooky roads. It's just like haunted lights. I think it is haunted bodies of water. Honestly, we're gonna add it in because I found a few. It's fun. And I found one in Japan. And we haven't done a lot of Japan thing. so I feel like it'd be cool for like our Japanese

listeners. Absolutely. And woo boy, I'm gonna cover it soon because it's really cool. Maybe we should just do this like once a month. We should. A fun spooky one. Maybe make it like a summer thing. Yeah, there you go. Scary water. You guys feel about that. Yeah. So about this crash, a woman named Roxana Cologne gave an interview with Harold Guide about it. She was actually on the bridge when it happened and she was a kid. Oh dang. Or she was like coming onto the bridge.

She saw the entire thing happen. That'll change you. She said, quote, the ground started to shake and I remember hearing loud screeching sounds. I looked out of the car window and realized the bridge had collapsed. My stepdad and I were the 14th vehicle in line to get on that bridge. Cologne saw an 18-wheeler jackknife and fly in the air. It was horrible, and I remember seeing pieces

of concrete and bodies falling into the water. I screamed and my stepdad took my head and told me to get down on the floor of the passenger front seat. And she said she thinks it was his way of like protecting her from what was happening. Yeah, like don't see any of this. Look at this. So he literally just shoved her down. It was like you don't need to watch this carnage in front of us.

And she said to this day, I can't get on a bridge. I remember seeing cars plummeting into the water. You could see them going in. Wow. So that is the Manchak Swamp Bridge. Now, there is this crazy, like, you know, of course, with all this kind of thing, with these spooky roads and these bridges and these swamps,

there's always a ghost story. Oh, hell yeah. For all of them. I was waiting for it. So there's one that says there were three teens on their way to New Orleans one day. Okay. And they were going over the Manchak Swamp Bridge.

And originally they had their windows down, but the driver was kind of like freaked out because of the swamp. And he was like, oh, so he rolled them up. And his friends were like, no, let's roll them down like it's nice out. He was annoyed. But then suddenly they hear screaming. And it's like a woman. So they slam on the brakes,

and they're creeping through slowly, just seeing if anyone's in trouble, they're like, who the hell was that? Cause it sounds like she's in pain. Yeah, so they're like, what do we do? And they're like, they're not seeing anything, and they're too freaked out to like, just stopping it out and look,

cause it's time. Yeah. So they're like, you know what, we're just gonna put the windows back up, like I don't know what to do here. Then suddenly they hear a louder scream, and then they hear a growling sound. But like a growling sound, like it was from some great beast, like a sass watch or something. And they started speeding down the bridge to get out and had to slam the brakes on, because up ahead of them, it looked like the bridge collapsed again.

What? So as they're going in reverse, they're hearing like thudding sounds in their car tire had popped. Oh, no. And then they try to change the tire and they hear a woman behind them softly start singing,

one day I'm gonna die and take the whole town with me. Shut up, just me. No, like no. And they said it was like mayhem, like chaos around them. Like the bridge just goes, what is happening? And then all at once, like they all got in the car to just be like, what the fuck do we do? And they heard that.

And they said they look up. The bridge was completely fine. What? And they had, they ended up with a flat tire that they had to change. Oh my gosh. But everything stopped, the bridge wasn't collapsed. It just so crazy.

That's like crazy hallucinations. Like what they were done. Like LSD. And of course, this is like a story, but it's like, yeah, it's still. But that's scary as fuck. I mean, based on everything else that we've heard so far, I'm like, I'm buying it.

Well, and I'm thinking that that great beast sound could have been something called the Rugeroo. That's what I was thinking as well. Aren't weren't you? No, the Rugeroo. Is that? Or the loop guru. Loop guru.

Loop guru. Now this is a cryptid of Louisiana lore. We love a cryptid, we love them. It dwells on the bayou and is said to be half man and half animal. Aye. Which sounds awesome. It dwells on the bayou and is said to be half man and half animal. Which sounds awesome. It sounds like the devil. It sounds awesome. It has roots in France and was told to young children to keep them from running off alone into the woods. So it's not ever a really great way to not have children run into the woods. Yeah, that'll do what I buy. Yeah, it's it'll definitely do it. It's like a crampus.

It's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, like be good. Exactly. Rugeru is gonna get you. Now, when the French came to Louisiana, it became embedded in the Cajun legend and culture. And that's when it kind of changed a little bit. Okay. So, like, kind of fit the buy you more.

Of course. The Rugeru has the body of a man and the head of a snarling, red-eyed wolf usually. Oh, dang. But it also can have the head of kind of like, well, something say it can have the head of any bayou dweller it wants. Okay. So it can be like a hog.

Maybe it changes its health. Which films are fine. Yeah, a hog head is not for me. Yeah. As long as the animal lives in the bayou, I think it can like be part of that. It can be part of the whole Rugeru package that you get. I didn't sign up for that. It's like signing up for cable and you're like,

I'd really like Bravo and also I would like all the news channels. It's just like if you're totally absolutely. I just like, she lost her mind. You sign up for a Rugeru and you're like, I would really like the man part of it. I just like she lost her mind. You sign up for a Rugeroo and you're like, I would really like the man part of it. I just keep thinking about it. But I think I also have to get the, you know,

the Bayu hog or something. You know, like the Roku TV's, that's all I can think about. That's what it is. You say Rugeroo. Yeah, you pick, it's like, you know, the soup to sure, whatever it is. I think I'm saying words. Why did you put that in soup to sure?

I don't know, the soup of the day, I don't know. Oh, okay, okay, I see where you're going with this. I did not at first, I was like, now we're eating soup. What the fuck? No, I think everyone agrees, I'm not making sense, but it's been a long day. So, yeah, so if you're, this guy is not awesome. Like not awesome to come across. Like it's funny to talk about, but then you're like, no not awesome. Like not. Let's come across. Like it's it's funny to talk about, but then you're like, no, I don't want to run into it.

I'm also with experiencing that. Thank you. Yeah, if you are, you know, approached by this creature, it's definitely going to attack you. We get that's for sure what it's all about. It's not there to talk to you. It's not there to offer you the soup to join. It doesn't want to know your game of thrones theory. Like it just wants to, like it doesn't want to talk to you about anything. You're funny.

It just wants to hurt you. So if you're attacked by this creature, it will attack you, but then it will reveal itself to you for who it really is because these creatures are real people who you know. What? What? Then it's going to reveal itself to you, but it's only going to do that if you try to defend yourself and you draw blood from it. Oh, okay.

So if you draw blood from it after it attacks you, it's going to reveal who it really is. And then what? And then they're going to tell you that you must not tell a single soul of your experience with it for one year and one day, or in other sources 101 days. If that's a break, that promise, though, you will be turned into a rougarou yourself forever. Oh, bitch.

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These haunting accounts sound like Hollywood movies, but I assure you this is actually happening. Followed this is actually happening wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen There are also variations that connect this to like regular everyday people who have a legitimate condition that turns them into a meat craving rougaroo at night. Yeah, and if they were to buy the human, like human flesh, they would become fully transformed. Maybe that's what happens to your young guest. She just becomes a rougaroo at night. I think she is a rougaroo at night. Did you think that ever? I didn't, but you know what you just really like that nail on the head. That was one of those like

glass shattering moments where you're like, oh my god. She is. She's a Ruger. My youngest child is a Ruger. How do you feel about that? I mean I feel like wait. I have answers now. We're not supposed to say anything about that. No, we're not, well, we're not supposed to. We have an experience. We haven't had. She hasn't attacked. And she hasn't revealed her shoes to us. And I haven't drawn blood. So we're good.

That'll never happen. So we're good. So is she just going to destroy us all then? Yeah, I think she's just going to like make our lives all up. Hard at night. Because it is. It's that night. Yeah.

She turns into a Rugeroo. At night. I can't wait to tell John that. I don't think he'll buy it. I can't wait to tell him that our youngest is a Rugeroo a Rugeroo. I can't wait to tell Tom that. I don't think he'll buy it. I can't wait to tell him that our youngest is a Rugeroo. Who knows? Our youngest is a Bayou Werewolf creature. And Bayou were?

From the Lord werewolf. And he'll be like, yeah, werewolf. Yeah, Lueh. But I think the moral of the story is don't let the Rugeroo like, buy you or anything. Like, don't let anyone buy you. I was literally just getting so bad. I was literally just getting so bad.

I was literally just getting so bad. I was literally just getting so bad. I was literally just getting so bad. I was literally just getting so bad. I was literally just getting so bad. I was literally just getting so bad. I was literally just getting so bad. I was literally just getting so bad.

I was literally just getting so bad. I was literally just getting so bad. I was literally just getting so bad. I was literally just getting so bad. I was literally just getting so bad. I was literally just getting so bad. I was literally just getting so bad. I was literally just getting so bad.

I was literally just getting so bad. I was literally just getting so bad. I was literally just getting so bad. I was literally just getting so bad. I was literally just getting so bad. I was literally just getting so bad. I was literally just getting so bad. Here's the good news everybody is there good news. There's a way to keep the Rugeroo away What do you have to do though because sometimes they'll just walk up to your house? You don't want that so when they walk up to your house get a simply say you could leave 13 objects outside of your door Like stones or coins or something like that however where I wish and you literally can't even have like 13 plates at a table Well, here's the thing though. They can't count past 12. So. But, which seems like something, I feel like if you couldn't count past 12, like you can get around that by not trying to count past 12, but they don't get that. They want to count past 12, but they can't.

And when they find out that they can't, they will get real pissed. They have to have some self-reflection time. They just want to count your shit. And when they can't count your shit that you left for them, they get really angry. And they keep trying to until the sun comes up. And then they have to go. And then they're either going to be human again

or they have to run away. All right. So they're just going to sit there and count your shit forever until they can. Now, what do I do if I live in an apartment and I can't even have like a welcome mat Then you fucked or you could leave a Callender like a strainer on your doorstep or in your window I'm gonna do that because it will try to count the holes and can't because of all the dumb

Hey careful careful over there Careful did I say and did I say an untruth? Yeah all the dumb. Hey, careful. Careful over there. Careful. Did I say and, did I say an untruth? Yeah, I was. Did I say an untruth? I'm not commenting. Did I?

No comment today. Funny thing, the Rugeroo is definitely one of those like parenting hacks to keep your kids from being bad or running off the woods like tell them about the Rugeroo. Absolutely. And funny thing too, I read that people in Louisiana, and I hope that our Louisiana listeners can tell me if this is true because I love it, if it is, it's just a fun thing. Like if you've ever experienced a rural that or that people will say that they made the Rugeroo, if they had a bad night's sleep or stayed up all night, like it's a saying, they

made the Rugeroo. I've made the Rugeroo last night, like I just couldn't sleep because they call Zal kind of havoc at night. Yeah, yeah. And they sometimes refer to people who like party all night as like fair Rugeru or fair loop guru. I love it. Yes.

And it's, I love it. I'm sad that that's not my way anymore. What a cute way of just being like, God, I gotta shitting night sleep last night. You're just like, oh, I made the Ruger Ruger last night. I really couldn't sleep. Like, I'm gonna say that. I'm gonna adopt that because I love it.

Please do. I'll honor it. I really will. Do. There's also a Ruger Ruger Fest in October. Do you get to dress up as like whatever you want? Do you get to dress up as whatever you want? There's a costume contest.

Oh, not only that. When are we going? This Ruger Ruger Fest costume contest was ranked as one of the top 10 parties in the, or costume parties in the United States by USA today. I want to go, please. And you can dress up as all kinds of shit. They have categories like pets, most creative, funniest, scariest, movies characters, kids' costumes, and best overall.

Let's go in. I want to do this so bad. I'm not even kidding. Which you guys. I don't know, but I think you just win the distinction, but I'm not really sure. That's fine. I'll take it.

I just love to win. And it's Rugeroo Fast. So that's all I get. I get Rugeroo Fast. There's a Rugeroo Queen. You can be the Rugeroo Queen. Okay, you can, that's kind of my like. Can both of us get to be the Rugeroo Queen?

Right. I feel like it's like my destiny. Can maybe the Rugeroo Queens of it? I mean, I kind of like can both of us get to be the Rueger Ruins? Right. I feel like it's like my destiny. To me, the Rueger Ruins of it. I mean, we can ask. I like to ask. Louisiana. Is that okay? Excuse me.

It's an, where is it? Homa? Louisiana? Homa. Let's go. H-O-U-M-A. How do you say it, Louisiana? I'm scared to mess it up.

H-O-U-M-A. Howma? Howma? Probably. That's what I would think. I don't know. Right? Is this howma guys?

Look at how Worcester spelled and then say. Exactly. It's howma Louisiana. Yeah. So yeah, there's a Rugeroo Queen and a Keen. A Keen. And all the proceeds from the Rugeroo Fest go to the Wetlands Discovery Center. Oh, hell yeah. Which is apparently revolutionizing how people think, teach, and learn about Louisiana's

disappearing coasts. Hell yeah. So it's all for a good cause. Oh no, a disappearing coast, I don't like that. I know that's not awesome, but we love a Rugeroo Fest. And we love a Rugeroo Fest that's also contributing to educating people about wetlands. Yeah. I mean, I love it all.

I'm here for it. You're doing it right, Louisiana. Sign for it. You're doing it right. Sign me up. You're doing it right. I love that. And then I saw that in our inbox, we had a message that was entitled Louisiana Bitch with three alligator emojis. Louisiana Bitch.

There it is. That's what that says. And I said, whoa. It is from Gabby. So hi, whoa, it is from Gabby. So hi, Gabby. Let me tell you, you're awesome. And that just really, really sold it for me. And Gabby was actually first telling us all

about Murdell's plantation. Well, that episode. Oh, OK. And she told us how that in elementary school, they'd learn all about that. They learn, because I think I told you guys during the Myrtle Plantation episode, go back and listen if you want to.

That there's the story of Chloe, and how she's the one who hunts, and there was discrepancy about whether she lost her ear, because she was sitting into a conversation that she wasn't supposed to, and they cut off her ear. She said that in Louisiana, the only story we believe Yeah, she's sending into a conversation that she wasn't supposed to and they cut off her ear. Oh, yeah. She said that in Louisiana, the only story we believe is that of Chloe's ears cut off for listening in when she was supposed to.

Oh, my goodness. And then she ends up poisoning the cake and killing the family. Good, bye. So they also got like a field trip there. It's just like, whoa, yeah, I want to get to school there. And she also mentioned that there is something called a Rugeru. And she said that this is like a pretty big thing. Most people at least know the name Rugeru there.

And she gave me a little like background on it, which I think I just told you guys, but thank you for your engagement with me. Oh, I love when people do that. Thank you. And she told me as children, we're taught that the Rugeru will get you if you're bad and don't listen to your elders.

Oh, let's teach that to your kids. And then she said, yes, this is kind of scarring as a kid. But Louisiana has a motto of, how bad can we scare the kids without really fucking them up? There is also a Rugeru fest that happens in my hometown every year. It's the biggest Halloween throwdown in the South. People come from other states and countries, specifically for our Ruger. Yes, like me and Elena correct.

Which sounds awesome. And then Gabby also gave me a few more stories that I'm gonna look further into. I'm not gonna say them yet because I wanna look into them to actually do an episode on them. Yes. Gabby, thank you.

Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Because she said there are so many stories that I can't cover them all. Here's, and she gave a link to the Louisiana travel page. And she said, covering stories that are believed by us from Louisiana, not some bullshit outsiders make up because they make up some shit.

Like, I've literally been asked if I wrote an alligator to school when I'm vacation out of the South. You bitches be crazy. Yeah, that's so little in time. Like, I love you, Gabby. I love you. So thank you for you, Gabby. I love you. So thank you for that, Gabby. And also Gabby told me if I needed help pronouncing words from Louisiana, I should have hit you up. Oh, girl. Why did you? So that is my Louisiana craziness. I love that.

And on top of this, we also, like I mentioned earlier, have a listener tale from someone who has an experience in like linear. I linear, right? Linear, yeah, love. Why can't I say it right? I think I'm saying it wrong. Because I always wanna say linear.

Yeah, we always wanna say linear. Yeah, we always want to say linear. But whenever we can have a listener tale, that's directly connected to a recent episode, we got to do it. Hell yeah. Well, this is from, let me wait and see if I'm allowed to say that. I don't think you're allowed to. If I remember correctly.

Yep, please don't say it. If you could stream this, look at you, honey. Look at me. All right, well, this person says, I'm a huge fan of the pod, hence why I'm taking the time to write this up. I even got my boyfriend hooked. I love when you guys do that.

I know. He never used to be interested in true crime, but one day I picked him up while listening to the girl in the box episode, oh man, what a way to start. I asked to finish the episode because how could anyone stop halfway through that crazy story and completely suck to men?

Now every time we're together, he asked to listen to the murder girl. That's y'all. I love that. I'm honored. The murder girl. Listening to y'all in the car or after a stressful day feels like I'm just unwinding and hanging out with friends. Is that weird? I hope not. By the way, Ash, I love the tangents. Being ADHD is fuck. My thoughts are less like on, or less like a train on tracks with a clear destination. And more like a room buff from hell that doesn't know where it's going. It destroys everything in its half. You know, in that moment, we became kindred spirits.

So thank you. You are a room buff from hell that, I wish that I knew that about myself earlier, but I literally am. Your thoughts are. They absolutely are. No, I am as well. Yeah, yeah, you are as a human.

You know, it's so funny. I always loved that Roomba commercial too. Remember, I would always go boom, boom, boom, boom. Like when I was like a little baby child. She went with you. She was little. She just come and go, boom, boom, boom, boom. That was really funny. We could, we could say that. There were times when I was like, please stop. Yeah. Don't do the room by anymore You were kind of rude. No, I'm just not you were you were crushing my Rumba dreams anyways I want to get a Rumba and do DJ Rumba. Um, I have a Rumba and my cats ride it around. We need to do DJ Rumba Anyway, enough rambling for now and on with the story and And I love that the rambling applied not only to you, but also this takes place at Lake Linear,

which is widely considered by the residents of North Georgia, the most haunted lake in the country, and it is. As such, I think it deserves some backstory. So just bear with me for a little bit. Lake Linear, Lake all, there's a fuck, Lake Linear, Lake all Georgia lakes was artificially manufactured in the 1950s. Someone thought of creating reservoir to supply water and power to Atlanta. And the surrounding areas, while simultaneously preventing flooding of the Chattahoochi River.

Great idea, right? Well, maybe not so much. Flooding the area displaced hundreds of families who left their entire communities under billions of gallons of water. It's so crazy still. Even hearing it again is like, what? I know, it's so true. What? That's how that was made? It's so crazy and preparation for the lake workers removed anything they considered dangerous such as barns and wooden buildings that could float up However much of the original structure remains making the bottom of Lake Lanier a sunken ghost town in more ways than one and Then this person gives us some information

But if you listen to the episode then you already know that but I appreciate you for putting that all in there And then it says now let's jump to the summer of 2019 when my then boyfriend, let's call him Jake. And I, and I evilly decided to take a trip to the aforementioned Lake of Death. Remember pre-COVID when you could actually go places and do things and see people? Yeah, me neither.

We spent the majority of our trip doing what typical 20 somethings do see sex drugs and son. Yeah, that's very true. However, we never gotten a boat or even on the water while intoxicated. I'm a stickler for safety and have seen too many people die in preventable accidents to take stupid risks. Look at that.

I'm so proud of you. You're hearing us. You were even hearing us. You heated our warning before you even heard it. That's amazing. See, I knew you guys were all smart. I love you guys I know it. I know it. I didn't need to say it to you guys you know, but still we love you So we said it anyway, but on the last day of our vacation Jake and I got into a huge argument

I don't even remember what we were fighting about it was something small but at the time we got heated enough to start screaming at each other on the beach and Calls the scene. I'm not gonna lie to you. I wish I was on that beach because I that sounds great. I would have been sitting there. I would have been inching closer. Just ready. I'd be like, oh my god. Me pretending to read my vogue but like definitely listening to you. Oh yeah, but backwards and upside down. You literally. Can you guess why we're no longer together? No. Anyway, he eventually threw his hands up in French frustration and went to sit where we had set up for the day. Not wanting to be around him. I decided to go for a swim and to calm my thoughts and my temper.

Oh, that's like the best way to do it. No, not like Lynneer, but like to go for a swim. Let me preface the rest of this story by letting you know that I am a very strong swimmer. My mom jokes that I could swim before I could walk. I feel that. I swim for the varsity swim team's both of my high school and college. In addition to this, I worked as a lifeguard for four years. I even saved a kid once.

Yes, get it! Wow! Apparently he wasn't actually drowning, but just faking it to try to get his parents' attention, which is a case study in and of itself. PSA, don't ignore your kids when they're in 12 feet deep of water. Yeah, don't do that. No, but back to the story. I swam out a few yards just far enough so that my toes couldn't touch the bottom. When I suddenly became overcome with an intense sense of dread. Let me tell you, I have anxiety and this was not a typical panic attack. It was a feeling of terror that I have never felt before or since. There was no trigger, nothing outwardly dangerous. My blood turned to ice. My arms, those still treading water water no longer seemed to belong to me. Then, without my head ever falling below the water, I started coughing water out of my mouth and nose. That's insane. This discharge wasn't some sort of series of, uh, is it Siros fluid? Is that how you say

that? Siros fluid. Yeah, thank you. That could have originated inside of me. It was gray, Seriously. Yeah, thank you. I could have originated inside of me. It was gray, silty lake water that tasted of dirt and decay. This next part I still can't explain or fully wrap my head around, but I felt a hand grab me by the ankle and pull me down into the water. People say that! What did I tell you?

I started fighting like a wild animal, kicking, punching and thrashing around. My blind punch is made contact with someone, not something. I felt hair flesh in bone. Struggling to hair. I know hair. Hair flesh in bone. Oh my god. Fuck that. Oh wow. No. Struggling to open my eyes underwater. I looked to see who had a hold of me and saw her. She had a sunken face and her mouth open as if to scream, searing pain shot down my calf as she dug her nails in to get a better hold on me. That's the last thing I remember before blacking out. The next thing I remember is waking up on the beach. The sun glared brightly at me as I coughed in pain from water inhalation. Apparently, Jay could drag me out of the water

and on to dry land after seeing me go under and fail to resurface. He frantically doded on my leg, which had long gashes from mid-caf to the base of my heel. Rapping a towel around my shredded lower limb, he scooped me up and carted me off to the nearest emergency room. Thankfully, I didn't need any stitches.

Turns out blood mixing with like water makes it look like you're bleeding way more than you actually are. I'm actually experienced. That's really weird. Eventually Jake and I both calm down following the initial panic of what the fuck just happened. He told me upon seeing my leg, he assumed that I had gotten caught by some sort of debris and swept up in an undercurrent. After telling him my experience, he changed his opinion. Not to anything supernatural, but he assured that I was, he assumed that I was stressed from anything supernatural, but he assured that I was, he, excuse me, he assumed that I was stressed

from our argument had a panic attack while swimming and fell unconscious. But what about the face I saw and the scratches down my leg? According to him, and most other people who hear this story, my mind was playing tricks on me. So I'm sort of debris trapped my leg. When I went to look at it, my brain pieced together,

what it could through the water and form to face. No way. You experienced this. And I fully believe that you saw what you saw. And even if it was debris, what the fuck, Lake Lanier? Yeah, exactly. Why do you have so much in your water? Why do you have actual trees and Volkswagen's and vans

and people and houses and buildings and race track seats under the water. Why? People are going to bump into things. Because what was never meant for recreational purposes. I don't care. It's there. People are going to jump in. I know that's very true. And they should know that they should know the human race for what we are. Come on. You say this is not for recreational purposes. People are going to throw on their swim suit and go out of all of the way. Like that's going to happen. People are going to throw on their swim suit and go out of holiday. Like that's going to happen. People are going to dive right in.

It's true. Yeah, I did know. No, this says in all fairness, it's entirely possible that this is what happened. Nope. No. The rational side of me wants to accept a logical explanation, but still there are things I can't explain away. I know what I saw.

That face will haunt me until I die. I felt it, whatever it was, made of skin and bone and hair. And it was, and if it was just a panic attack, then why did I start coughing up water before my head was ever submerged? Yeah, that's a crazy time. I'll let you form your own opinion. Was it a panic attack induced by a fight?

Was it the lady of the lake or does something else lurk beneath the surface of Lake Linear? I think something else, because the lady of the lake seems chill as fun. Yeah, I think it's another hellish beast underneath there. Yeah. Sorry for the length, never be. I tend to get sidetracked and rambling when telling stories. If you decide to tell this for a listener tale's episode, please feel free to shorten it as much as you need. Thanks.

And one last thing, if you enjoyed hearing about my experience at all, then I have a favor to ask. Please look up the case of Torel Peterson. It will break your heart, but it's so important. His name deserves to be remembered. If you decide to talk about Torell on the podcast, that would be fantastic. If not at least someone else knows his name. He lived a short, horrible life, but his memory is still so important. I have a personal connection to the Torell's case, so if you have any questions, please feel free to email me back. Okay, and that's it for this super long message. If you made it this far, then thank you. Since it really yours, anonymous.

I am definitely gonna look into the case of Trial Peter. I'm literally copy and pasting it into Google at this moment. But yeah, that is truly a horrific tale. That sounds terrible. Oh no, is it a really bad case? Yeah, it's about a child. Oh no. And a very beautiful child. Oh, that I really hurt myself. Oh no. Well, well, on that note. Thank you guys for sending in your tails and your personal experiences

with these things, because they add a little spice. And if you have any suggestions for a lake near you that you'd like covered, please write it. Do a lake lagoon ocean sea large puddle that you would like us to. Or for a large puddle. Or for a large puddle. Send it in. Seriously, use the,

just so we can collect it all easily, write like spooky water. Spooky water. And then whatever else you want to say. Like a list of Taylor or spooky road Like spooky water. Spooky water. And then, like a listener or a spooky road kind of thing. Spooky water. Yeah. And then we'll do some of those,

because I found a ton. So, hoping that people have some really cool ones because water is terrifying. I love water. It's so scary. I feel like it's gonna fuck me up the summer because I'm a literal fish, as you know. Yeah, you really are.

The other day, we were swimming in Alina and had to drag me out of a pool so it's though that we could go to a meeting and I was like okay but why can't we just take it in the pool? Why? Why? She was like no. She was like no we also need to like drive home and there's many steps involved. So no we cannot do that. That's like fine mom. We don't have an internet connection at this pool. Oh man, well guys, we love you so much. And Elena, bomb episode. Thanks so much.

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