Morbid - Episode 241: Stephen Griffiths AKA The Crossbow Cannibal

Episode Date: June 18, 2021

Stephen Griffiths dubbed himself the Crossbow Killer after murdering and dismembering three women. Susan Rushworth, Shelley Armitage and Suzanne Blamires were all connected by the work they d...id. They were so much more than what they did for a living though, they were mothers, sisters, daughters and friends. Stephen Griffith’s took all three of their lives away in a horrific, coldblooded manner because he simply wanted to be a serial killer.  As always thank you to our sponsors: HelloFresh: Get twelve free meals—including free shipping!—when you use code morbid12 at HelloFresh.com/morbid12 Norton Lifelock: Join now and save 25% or more off your first year at Norton.com/MORBID BetterHelp: This podcast is sponsored by BetterHelp and Morbid: A True Crime Podcast listeners get 10% off their first month at betterhelp.com/Morbid Purple: Right now, you’ll get 10% off any order of $200 or more! Go to Purple.com/morbid10 and use promo code morbid10 See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:02:14 only be one. All right. The show's over. But we're done. I just slammed my computer shut. Did you hear that a little too aggressively? I probably shouldn't have done that. Everything's gone now. I think mine went as because it's to the tune of Roland with the whole piece. Yeah, that is a good one. All right, I'll give you that. OK, I'm going to, I'm going to, you know,
Starting point is 00:02:32 do you have credit where credit is? Yeah, I'll give that. But hi, everybody. Hello. It's the morning. This was a fake fight. It was. It was fake.
Starting point is 00:02:41 We're not ending, don't worry. We don't have like a ton of bidness to talk about today, but we all doing a show this Sunday. Oh, it's the summer solstice show. So you know, it's gonna be good. We've got costumes as usual. Of course. We are gonna talk about, should we tell them
Starting point is 00:02:58 what we're gonna talk about? Get them interested or just have some sort of... Yeah, let's kind of like... Yeah, let's peek the interest. It's gonna be culty. We're gonna talk about some cults and you know, we're gonna live that cult life. We really are.
Starting point is 00:03:11 So, and when we say that, we really mean it. We're gonna absolutely. It's gonna be a lot. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. Well, if you would like to join our cult, you can go to onlocationlive.com slash category slash morbid. I believe tickets are still available for this event.
Starting point is 00:03:27 And just so everybody knows that even if you haven't bought tickets yet or if you have, this is going to be available for up to seven days after Sunday. Yeah. So you still, you got time. Yeah. You got time. If you haven't got your dad a father's day gift yet, give him the gift of us. Give him the gift of a cult. Just be serious.
Starting point is 00:03:46 I was gonna say, give your dad a cult for his day. As Karen and Georgia would say, you're in a cult, call your dad. Yeah, except maybe your dad might call you because you got him in a cult. So there you go. I don't know. I don't have advice for that. Maybe you call Karen and Georgia at that point.
Starting point is 00:04:02 I don't know. Maybe. I'm not real sure. They said though to call your dad. I know, don't call them. I'm trying to make a word. Don't call them. Yeah, I mean, don't call them.
Starting point is 00:04:12 I mean, how? How would anybody call to call Karen and Georgia? I don't know. I don't know your life. I love that you're like, God, don't call them. Don't call them. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:04:24 Don't use the phone number you have for Karen and Georgia collectively in cold cold weather. Like they have a collective. It's just the Karen and Georgia line. It's the hotline. Hello, welcome to my favorite murder. Shout out to my favorite murder. I was just gonna say, not that they need it,
Starting point is 00:04:37 but like promo for my favorite murder. Yeah, right. Well, this is gonna be a doozy of a case. Yeah, this is a lot a doozy of a case. Yeah, this is a lot. One might say the most. Yeah, I'm both excited and really terrified. Yeah, we're gonna be trying. So what's to come?
Starting point is 00:04:53 How about the Bradford murders today? Otherwise known as the Cannibal Crossbow killings. Or the Crossbow Cannibal killings. Which everyone feels right to you. Yeah, a littleeration, you can do it anyway. I hope neither of them feel right to you. None of this should feel right. None of feels right to you. Yeah, a literary shouldn't you can do it either of them feel right to you. None of this should feel right. Yeah, none of this should feel right. They should all feel very icky, very dirty and very scary.
Starting point is 00:05:10 You should be very unsettled right now and only get worse throughout this episode. Correct! All right, so now that we set you up with that lovely entree, I guess we should just get into it. Let's jump right in. So we're gonna be talking about Stephen Sean Griffiths. And he was born actually on Christmas Eve. Oh, look at him. Santa Barbara. Just don't though. And it was 1969 when he was born in Doosbury, West Yorkshire.
Starting point is 00:05:33 Doosbury. Who'sbury? I hope I said that right. His parents were Stephen Senior and Moira Griffiths. Moira. That's what I was gonna say. Very different people. Different Moira.
Starting point is 00:05:45 Now he was the oldest of three children, but unfortunately when he was 13, Steven Senior and Moira decided they were gonna end their marriage. Moira was the one to win primary custody of all three kids, which is very strange because Moira was a literal criminal. Oh, yeah. She had been charged with fraud, and apparently was known in town as like a
Starting point is 00:06:05 con artist. Like it was a very well-known fact that she really liked to con people. Wow. It was also rumored that she was a sex worker and people around town said that they would see her out in her garden, not exactly like planting or pulling weeds, but completely naked and entertaining some male company. In her secret garden? Yeah, it was a secret garden. It's like do whatever you want in your garden, as long as you're not murdering people and your kids aren't around.
Starting point is 00:06:32 Exactly. But Steven seemed to always be around when Moira was in the garden, not gardening. And unbeknownst to her, he would watch her in her male company. Oh, yeah, exactly. That always ends up poorly. Always, always, always. It reminded me of like the BTK thing. Actually, he reminds me of BTK and like a couple of ways that we'll get into. Yeah, there's a lot of those that had, you know, mothers that they would watch
Starting point is 00:07:00 or it's a view or know about what was going on. It's like, yeah. I mean, that's like a perfect recipe for a serial killer here. Her disaster. Maybe think about that. Yeah, maybe definitely think about that. Think about what you're unleashing onto the world when you do that. But don't get it in the garden if you're getting it.
Starting point is 00:07:18 Do your thing, just don't have kids. If that's what you wanna do, like that's cool. Yeah, if you wanna get freaky in the garden. And you don't have to worry about it. Do it while they're away.'s cool. Yeah, if you want to get freaky in the garden. And you don't have to worry about it. Do it while they're away. You want to get freaky in the garden? Get freaky in the garden. But don't do it when you're kids are around.
Starting point is 00:07:31 Get freaky in the garden. Get freaky in the garden. Just do it when no one's around. Exactly. Do it like no one's watching. Get freaky in the garden. Like no one's watching. There you go.
Starting point is 00:07:40 Get freaky in your secret garden. Yeah. Well, no one's watching. All right, I think we've killed it. We've killed that joke. So, now, a lot of people think that Steven's hatred, like, not only for women, but especially for sex workers, started with his mother.
Starting point is 00:07:54 Oh, really, a lot of people think that. A lot of people do think that. That's a really good theory. It's a good start to everything. Yeah. Now, the neighbors weren't only aware of Moira's garden activity, but Steven was having some activity time in the garden as well So fuck what's going on with this garden? I gotta know a lot. There's certain plants that are like
Starting point is 00:08:12 Effradiciacs or something like what's happening? I don't know about that I'm just saying our plant kin like if you eat a certain plant I wonder if there are ones that are at these yaks. I'm sure everything's a fucking affidavit Yeah, if you try hard enough. Some erematics. I don't know why, but that just makes me think of for breeze. Like, hey, there you go. It's like, when you say a word and then you're like, what does that remind you of?
Starting point is 00:08:33 For breeze. I say word you say word, erematics for breeze. Am I right? No. No. How many times in episode do I say that also? But anyways, people were noticing Stevens' night time garden activity. People only saw him in the garden at night, and really that's the only time anyone ever
Starting point is 00:08:52 saw Stephen was at night. People literally referred to him as nocturnal. You know, that makes me sad because there's a really beautiful children's book called the night gardener that I love to watch. They're really scary. The rouse girlfriend and this is giving me scary vibes and I don't love it. Because what was he doing? Thank you for that segue.
Starting point is 00:09:11 You're welcome. Because I was gonna say, he wasn't doing like what The Night Gardener was doing. He wasn't making like beautiful, you know, topierries. Tree artwork. No. They would see him in the garden that night,
Starting point is 00:09:21 like shooting birds. Oh. And then dissecting those birds. At night? At night. That's weird. Oh, you didn't get that, but it was a SpongeBob reference. No, I did not.
Starting point is 00:09:31 It's like, but that's weird. All the signs were there, like, he hated his mom. He only stayed, he only was seen at night, and now he's dissecting birds. Yeah, at night, that's like weird to me. It's very, very. It's very dissecting them with no light. Very strange.
Starting point is 00:09:44 It's very Jack the Ripper-y. It's very creepy. Jack the Ripper actually was one of his idols, so... Oh, hey, there you go. Because he would do his dissections, like, with no street lights, and everybody was like, how the hell did he do that? Yeah, well, that's what... That's what Stephen wanted to do as well.
Starting point is 00:09:57 Like, this guy, Stephen. Now, by all accounts, Stephen's father, sadly, was like really trying his best for all of his kids. He was actually the one who saved up all the money that it would cost to send Stephen to a better school, the Queen Elizabeth grammar school. But it didn't end up being worth it because Stephen was not interested in school or people his own age at all. Okay.
Starting point is 00:10:17 While he was in school, his teacher said that he would just like sit in the back and not contribute to any discussion or engage with any of the other students. And the other student said that he was like, really in his own little world. Like he was not entertaining any other conversations at all. You see that a lot with these kind of people. Only just chilling in the back. They totally seal them off themselves off
Starting point is 00:10:39 from everything else. Yeah, and he really loved like those like fantasy worlds. Like I was literally just gonna say say I guarantee he was super into fantasy He was super that was literally my next sentence He was really into like dragons. He would read books about dragons and like Dragon slayers and shit like that which by itself is not weird at all And it's like but when it's when it's Coming out of that like trauma. Yeah, that's when it's that's when they don't know's when they don't know how to shut it off.
Starting point is 00:11:08 Well, because that's a coping mechanism. Exactly. You go to another place in your world. It's like a disassociative thing. And normally, children who don't have trauma know when to shut that off and when to join the real world and when to play with friends, and when to talk to family and friends or teachers,
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Starting point is 00:13:17 but I assure you, this is actually happening. Follow this is actually happening wherever you get your podcasts, you can listen to add free on the Amazon Music or Wonder app. Now this is scary too because, well this part isn't scary, he also really loved martial arts, but this next part is scary because on more than one occasion, he got into trouble for bringing weapons to school. The weapons, scarily enough, were things like throwing stars. Oh, yeah, those scarry-ass, like really sharp things. Yeah, I had to Google it and then it brought me to Amazon and I was like, no, I don't want to purchase one.
Starting point is 00:13:56 Do you want to buy one? And don't mess up my Amazon suggestions. Yeah, don't want that. And he also would bring like some kind of dagger to school. Oh, that's not okay. And knowing what we know now about this guy, that was like enough to send a shiver down my spine. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:12 You're bringing that shit to school when you're like 13 and then we know what you're gonna do later. That's terrifying. Now he ended up dropping out of school, which is why I said it wasn't worth it to spend the money. He turned 16 and he was like, I'm all set. And he started getting into trouble very quickly. It started out with shoplifting as it always does.
Starting point is 00:14:30 But things quickly escalated and he moved on to things like pulling a knife on a store manager and slashing the guy's face open. That's a big leap. The usual. That's a big leap. You know, the manager had actually caught Stephen in the middle of shoplifting. And that he like tried to stop him. And that's when Stephen had a dare and slashed his face. Oh, Jesus. That's like going to like try to actually kill someone. Oh, absolutely. You're putting a knife into their face. You don't know what you're going to hit. All Stephen wanted to do was kill someone from a very young, very clear. Now, he spent three years in prison for that attack. And while he was in prison, he was telling anyone who
Starting point is 00:15:07 would listen to him that his main goal in life was to become a serial killer. Like, that's what he wanted to do. He wanted the notoriety. He wanted to copy other people. Like, he loves Jack the Ripper. He had a really specific fascination with the Yorkshire Ripper.
Starting point is 00:15:22 Yorkshire? Yorkshire Ripper. Yorkshire Ripper. Peter's that cliff. And it also reminds me of like Charles Manson being in jail at a super young age and telling everybody like I should stay here like yeah like just letting everybody know this is the plan. And because they're telling everybody what they're gonna do when they're released but obviously I think like we said in the Charlie Manson episode that's not a crime you can't keep somebody in prison longer for that. So yeah, I don't really know what you're supposed to do
Starting point is 00:15:49 So after the three years he was released But again quickly landed himself in the slamer for pulling a knife on a young girl and holding it to her throat Jesus in just a year before that actually he had been sentenced to to 100 hours of community service for having a gun in his possession. That was actually the gun that he was still using to shoot birds and dissect them. Oh, so yeah, we've got a lot going on. We have a lot going on. We do. And it was a 22-year-old that Stephen was officially diagnosed as a schizzoid psychopath. Now, that's a different disorder than schizophrenia, but according to the Mayo Clinic, it can have some similar symptoms to schizotypial personality disorder and schizophrenia. So the things that they share in common are a severely limited ability
Starting point is 00:16:38 to make social connections and a lack of emotional expression. Okay. So in this case, it really makes a lot of sense because he actually received that diagnosis after pulling a knife again on some girls that he thought were making fun of him. But they were like, we weren't making fun of him like we thought he was in on the joke. But it's like he couldn't,
Starting point is 00:16:57 but he couldn't understand that that was the case. Right, exactly. Again, reality is not something he's able to really grasp. Right, but then looking more and more into this, like, yes, that's absolutely a mental illness, but people with this mental illness still know the difference between right and wrong. Yeah, so it's not okay that he went on to murder
Starting point is 00:17:14 a lot of people. Yeah. So now while all that was going on, Steven met a woman named Zita Pinder. I guess they met after putting out an ad in the Lonely Hearts column, which usually would be adorable. Right, because there's a few killers that used the Lonely Hearts cup. So now it just has this ominous, spooky feeling to it.
Starting point is 00:17:35 And they come in here. I couldn't figure out if he had put the ad out or if she had or they both did. Like somehow met, I don't know which one of them did it. I don't know. But that's how they met. And they met at a pub for some dinner for their first date. And things actually went really well. But looking back on their relationship as an entire whole, there was a lot of red flags. I'm shocked. For one thing, Steven gave Zeta a picture of himself that he had professionally taken on their first date. I was just screaming. Here, I had this picture
Starting point is 00:18:04 taken of me. I'd like you to keep it. I am screaming screaming. Here, I had this picture taken of me. I'd like you to keep it. I am screaming. It's like in senior year, when you give your friends your senior picture and you're like, put this in your wallet. Put this in your wallet. But different and a little bit weird.
Starting point is 00:18:13 Wow. She laughed it off at the time. I think she said she called him a poser. She was like, oh, look at you, you little poser. The pose was like, she thought it was funny. But knowing what she knows now, she's like, oh, okay. Cool. Awesome. She remembered, she's like, oh, okay, cool. Awesome.
Starting point is 00:18:26 She remembered that he really liked horror films, not exactly like in the way that me, you and Caleb liked them though. She said like whenever someone was murdered, he would just start laughing hysterically. Yeah, that's not like in horror films. That's not like in horror films, that's not that. That's like watching, thinking, and again,
Starting point is 00:18:45 he doesn't know how to separate it from reality. So to him, that seems like reality. Exactly. That's funny to me. That's his reality. That's his reality. He also was like a super, super paranoid sleeper, and if you don't like bugs, you should probably skip this part.
Starting point is 00:18:58 Oh no. But Zeta said that he was absolutely terrified of insects crawling in his ears in his sleep, so he always had to plug his ears with cotton wool. Oh, which just made my ear shit. Now there was one night he spent with Zeta and she told him that she didn't have any cotton. She was like, you probably like, hey, you used it all. I don't have any. You stuck it all in your ears. And he was like, okay, like, I'm not getting into bed with you then. Like, I can't go to sleep. And he stayed up all night. Wow. Yes. Yeah, that's a problem.
Starting point is 00:19:25 Definitely like some paranoia mixed in there as well. For sure. Which is honestly that sad, but you can feel bad for like that part of it, but don't feel bad overall like we are exactly. Now for the first part of their relationship, which lasted a total of two years, Zeta just assumed that Steven lived with his parents because she didn't ever see his apartment. But somehow she found out that he had his own place. What?
Starting point is 00:19:50 And she was like, we've been together for two years and this entire time I kind of just thought you lived with your parents. Like, can I see your house? It's like weird. Am I allowed to go there? And he was like, oh yeah, I'll take you tomorrow. I'd let's go. Two years later. Five years later. Two years later. Well, oh yeah, I'll take you tomorrow. And let's go. Like two years later.
Starting point is 00:20:05 Two years ago. Well, shit. Like, of course you can come over. Should have just asked. You want to come to my place? I just, I didn't want to, I didn't want to assume that you wanted to come. So I was never brought it up.
Starting point is 00:20:14 I was like, what? It's so bizarre. So then, well, there was a reason he didn't take her there. Oh, there was. So good. Now Steven picked her up and two of them just drove over to his place. He lived in a third floor apartment in Bradford not far from the red light district and as
Starting point is 00:20:29 they walked in the door Stephen just started showing her around like showing her different knick-knack study had his names for certain things. Zina was horrified. Absolutely horrified because there was a lot of stuff playing around that was super creepy. He had horror films lined up on the shelves in the living room, but there weren't just like 30 horror films. There was hundreds of them. There was also like hundreds and hundreds of books
Starting point is 00:20:59 about serial killers. And when I first read that, I was like, I literally when I first read that, I was like, I literally when I first read that, I was like, okay, so he and Elena share a day course. I was literally like, they share a Pinterest board. But then I got to the part of the research where we are. I feel like attacked here, okay? Okay, well, this is where you're not going to feel so good. Okay, good. Because I got into the part where they talk about his crossbows and samurai swords that were just like laying around.
Starting point is 00:21:25 Okay, which you don't have. No, I don't have that. You do have like autopsy ship, though, which is the little bit weird stuff. But, you know. But I love you and I know for a fact you haven't killed anybody in number one, so. No, I have not, so it's okay.
Starting point is 00:21:36 So, again, that might not sound like super alarming to a community like all of us, but in some sources, I also read that a lot of his surfaces in the apartment were just covered in plastic, like dexter style. Okay. Yeah. Okay. So, you know, that'll get a little bit weird. For sure. I mean, I just want to know like, was there, was there, like, did he give a reason? Did anyone ask? I don't know if she asked.
Starting point is 00:22:09 I think she was just like, I'm really not feeling well. I'd like to leave. Because I feel like I would at least be like, hey, like, nice class. Like, what's the plan? Like, are you renovating or something happened? Like, I would need at least something. I think there was a lot of context clues for her
Starting point is 00:22:27 and she was like, you know, I don't think I'm gonna ask what the plan is because I think after this I'm never coming back here. So I don't really need a lot of context clues. Yeah, I mean, that's probably the safest way to go about it. Yeah. To be honest. She said that she had immediately
Starting point is 00:22:40 like a super bad feeling about this place and she was like, I just thought this guy was like a cool goth dude. like I did not think that this is what I was gonna walk into. Yeah so she was like well she so she did ask she was like what's the deal with all this dark stuff like you know and he goes I just like stuff like this but okay it's fair it's absolutely fair but other than like the plastic like you just like plastic, I was gonna say. Because that one, everything else, I'm like,
Starting point is 00:23:07 oh okay, like that, whatever, like you like what you like, that's fine, and then the plastic, and that's why I was like, but again, I don't know how to like justify that. I don't really know how to be like you like what you like, but I mean, then again, think about like people, put those plastic things on their couch. I was just going to say, like, especially like, I'm not saying everybody who has this is old, but older people tend to have like the plastic on the couch that you would sit on. It's like, brrr, brrr, brrr, brrr, brrr, I never understand
Starting point is 00:23:36 the word. And it's, you know, it's say, you don't hurt the furniture. So maybe he was just really, maybe he just really loved his furniture, but, or maybe he was trying to set up a kill room, like a mixture. Probably that. I think that's what brought, that's what, I his furniture, but probably not. Or maybe he was trying to set up a kill room, like a mixture. Probably that. I think that's what brought, that's what, I was trying, I can't get there. Yeah, now again, just to like really like drive this point home, I only saw that in like a few sources, but I felt like it was worth mentioning, because, yeah, you know, we can't totally rule it out.
Starting point is 00:23:57 I wasn't there. Zeta was though, and she was like, I'd like to leave now. And she made something up on the fly, and she was like, can you drive me home? And then the next day, she called Steven and broke up and broke up with him. Broked up with him. She just broke it right off. She just broke up with him.
Starting point is 00:24:10 And now it would be 10 years before she saw him again, except it wasn't in person. She saw his fleece. She saw his face flying across the TV screen one day and all of her feelings about this man were confirmed. Oh boy. Before we get to that, we have one more thing to talk about. I was like, how?
Starting point is 00:24:29 You have to talk about the second woman that Stephen dated. Okay. Her name was Kathy, and their relationship was absolutely terrifying. Kathy worked as a prison officer actually, and when she met Stephen, she thought, again, he was just like a cool goth dude. Like, yeah, she liked his style, she was into it.
Starting point is 00:24:47 He had the look down, he had like super long black hair, he would dress in like dark clothes and trench coats and stuff like that, and she was like, oh hell yeah, like that's my vibe. Yeah, it would have been a whole last five if he wasn't such a monster. Exactly. But it was only two weeks into their relationship
Starting point is 00:25:02 that Kathy started to get to know a completely different person. This was not the guy that she thought he was. He was controlling. He was violent and he was willing to go to great lengths to get her to do whatever he wanted. She wasn't allowed to go anywhere if he wasn't with her. And really early on in the relationship, he started talking about like, you need to move in with me. I want you to live with me. I don't want you to live on your own. But she couldn't move in with him because she had two dogs of her own and he, I don't think he could have them in his apartment. So instead of accepting that, he decided that the dogs were getting more attention than him and he didn't like that.
Starting point is 00:25:37 Oh, no. No, don't worry. Nothing happens to the dogs. That's okay, detrimental to their life. But still. Yeah, so he went over to Kathy's house because he was like, I'm gonna do something about this. And he offered her like some kind of antidepressant and she was already on a different kind of medication for depression. And Steven knew that these two particular medicines couldn't be mixed, like it could be deadly if they mixed.
Starting point is 00:26:01 So she took what he gave her because she didn't really know exactly what it was, or she trusted him what he said it was, and she immediately started to feel really weird. She was getting delirious, and she said that as she started to tell him, like, I'm feeling really off, and like she was just like really panicking. He stood over her laughing hysterically and just went, you're dying. Oh, what the fuck? Laughing like maniacally and just went, you're dying. And think about like you're in, because think about like a panicked moment. Yeah, and all you're searching for is comfort.
Starting point is 00:26:38 And then you just add like 50 pounds of panic onto your chest. And somebody standing over you laughing, saying, you're dying. Oh my God, that gave me so much. It's not just someone, it's your fucking boyfriend. It's the person who's eating. Like what? Holy shit.
Starting point is 00:26:54 She luckily was, he refused to call an ambulance for her. So she luckily was able to drive herself to the hospital. Like she could have died on the way there. And she had to spend the night to be treated. And luckily she was able to get treated and everything was okay. But when she got home the next day, her dogs were gone.
Starting point is 00:27:11 And Steven told her that her house had been robbed, which was super duper weird because nothing else in the house was touched. It was just the dogs that were gone. And a neighbor confirmed that he, so he left when she went to the hospital. But a neighbor said that he came back later around like 3.45 in the morning,
Starting point is 00:27:28 and he took the dogs with him. And later, Kathy found out that he just like gave the dogs away to someone. So he gave her dogs away. So honestly, that is horrific. Right, but then she was like, I have nowhere to go, like I don't know what to do. Like, so she moved in with him, she had no choice.
Starting point is 00:27:46 He literally forced her to move in with him, excuse me. Now, their relationship, by the way, only lasted a year. All of this happened within the span of a year. Oh my God. And throughout the rest of their dating, Steven would regularly beat Kathy. He split her lip, he broke her nose, he stabbed her in the legs on multiple occasions.
Starting point is 00:28:08 What? He told her one of the reasons that he liked her was that she fought back and it gave him, quote, a thrill. No. Now in 2001, Kathy found out that she was pregnant. Oh, okay. So now there's really no way out of this.
Starting point is 00:28:23 Oh, man. But Stephen's behavior completely changed. He was so excited to be a dad. He was like, we're gonna do this. Like I'm so excited. But he was definitely still an asshole and he didn't go to most of Kathy's appointments with her, including one where she found out that unfortunately her pregnancy was a topic.
Starting point is 00:28:43 Oh, so she was gonna have to lose the baby. That's really sad. So sad. And she said she was like, I was sad about it, but it was very early on in the pregnancy. So in her mind, she was like, for me, it hadn't become a baby yet, like total baby. For some people, it's, you know,
Starting point is 00:29:00 everybody feels different. Yeah, and I'm sure that was also like, she probably kind of told herself that to get through. And at least I'm glad she was able to like, kind of cope that way. Deal on it some way. Yeah, right. Because that's like really, that's like fucked up. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:14 A topic pregnancies are really, really dangerous. You can really scary. 100% you can die. Yeah, it's scary. And it's very traumatic. I looked into it because I was like, do you always have to lose the baby? And there's been like some super rare cases where people have had ectopic pregnancies and like delivered.
Starting point is 00:29:31 Wow. It was like, I think I literally found like two. I was gonna say that must have been extra and I really rare. Because usually the baby can't usually live outside of the womb. No, of course. And you can't usually have a baby outside of the womb. That kills you easily.
Starting point is 00:29:45 Right. It's really scary to see that happens. And it's sad because there's no way of preventing it. It just happens. No, it's literally just luck of the draw. Right. That's one of those things.
Starting point is 00:29:55 Or not luck. Yeah. But so Steven's reaction, she came home and she told them. And she said that his reaction was very strange. She said, he took the positive pregnancy test stick, which we had kept and he made a coffin for it.
Starting point is 00:30:08 Which, sure, some of the things that people are thinking are strange for him are just like, he's not like your average everyday Joe Shbow. He's in to some darker stuff. And if he wants to make a coffin for the baby that he lost and put the pregnancy stick in there, okay. That's the thing. It's like, you know, you can't judge everything.
Starting point is 00:30:28 Like some of these things are like, of course now. Right, it's all, it rings very, very scary in the streets. Because looking back, those things all line up with each other. And at the time, you might be like, okay, like this is a lot. Yeah. But like, you know, when you're judging it off of like, you know, separate events, you're just kind of like, okay, this is a lot. Yeah, but like, when you're judging it off of like, you know, separate events, you're just kind of like, yeah, sure, that's a little weird, but like, people are weird.
Starting point is 00:30:50 People want to react, however they want to react. We're weird, but right now, when we know what happens, it's like, oh, it's weird. It's weird, it's weird, it's weird, it's weird. Now, though, this was when Kathy finally had the chance to get out of the relationship. So they were going on vacation. And she actually enlisted the help of one of Steven's ex-girlfriends, Amanda.
Starting point is 00:31:10 And while they were on vacation, Amanda went to Steven's flat, they call it, and packed up all of Kathy's things that were like at Steven's flat and set them aside for her. Wow. Yeah. I love that. And when they got back, Kathy was able to escape Steven because of that. Amazing. She got her dog who was staying with his dad and like quite literally just went into hiding for the next few years. Wow. But somehow Steven would find her, find out where she was, or trick her into speaking with him again. There was one occasion where he
Starting point is 00:31:39 actually came to her parents house. He like knew that she was there somehow, came to her house, slashed all the tires on her car, and then crashed his car on the way home on purpose and told the responding officers to please call her. Now, when she tried to get to him because she's an amazing person apparently who just wanted to help him, she tried to get to him, but I guess he called her and was like, yeah, I actually slashed all your tires. So you're going to have to figure out a different way to get here. She was like, you're gonna need a new method of transportation. Are you fucking kidding me?
Starting point is 00:32:10 What? Now, I love that he's just like, yeah, I slashed all your tires. But like, please come rescue me. I'm gonna come get me. But like, you literally halted the production of me coming to see you. You stopped that, sir. You're annoying.
Starting point is 00:32:21 So you're annoying. This next part is a trigger warning for animal cruelty. So, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, sir. You're annoying. So you're annoying. This next part is a trigger warning for animal cruelty. So, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, if you just want to schedule a 15 second skip ahead. Gotta go pee, go pee, go. So there was another time that he called her knowing how much she loved animals and he would do this from time to time. He, I had so hard even saying this, he had cut the tail off of a little puppy that he had just got, fuck. He got the puppy hopped up on like, value, I think it was,
Starting point is 00:32:50 and just decided that he was gonna cut the tail off himself. Fuck this guy. It's so, fuck this guy. It makes me so angry. No, that makes my stomach hurt. He called her and told her this was happening, knowing that it would get her to come to him to rescue this puppy. And luckily, she was able to get to him and take the puppy and she
Starting point is 00:33:09 saved the puppy's life. Oh good. Okay. But oh, yeah, trauma. But he would continue to stalk her for years to come. He stalked her for a total of 10 years. That's right. That's good. That's good. That's good. That's good. That's good. That's good. That's good. That's good. That's good.
Starting point is 00:33:31 That's good. That's good. That's good. That's good. That's good. That's good. That's good. That's good.
Starting point is 00:33:39 That's good. That's good. That's good. That's good. That's good. That's good. That's good. That's good. That's good. That's good. America when the stocking laws got put into place. I'm not so sure about like England, but this was like the late 90s Yeah, and it's like come on and even still to this day like they're still not as tightened up as they should be right There's not a lot that they can do. They just don't treat it as dangerous enough as what it is
Starting point is 00:33:54 And it's like it's a lead up like yeah serial killers stock their victims Exactly and they treat it like oh well, you know They're not doing anything to her and it's like no they. They're violating people's privacy and right to live their life and they're escalating. That's amazing. That's an escalation. Well, and that's going to happen. This one was absolutely an escalation. They need to treat it like that.
Starting point is 00:34:14 They do, for sure. There's certain things that people do that are not murder, that they need to treat like an es- like it's ready to be escalated to murder because they are always a lead up to it. Well, because exactly how many cases do we have where we show like the stocking period, or even just an attempted murder, an attempted rape, or rape, or murder? Exactly. When it gets to the point, you know, like you have to stop that. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:34:36 The entire point of law enforcement. Exactly. So this is one of those cases where something should have happened because he would show up at places she knew that he knew she was going to be at. He would text her scary things all the time. She'd change her number. He'd find it. And he would usually do these things because she took out multiple protective orders, but he would usually do them right when the protective order ended. And it was going to take some time for the next one. Now, she lived with her parents for like a long time or she would live in like little like hidden places
Starting point is 00:35:05 that she thought that he wouldn't find, but he would always find. But then I guess she went through a period where like he didn't find her for a little bit. So she found like, she felt like it was finally safe to get her own place. And she did, but he found out where she lived. Of course.
Starting point is 00:35:19 And she had two cats and then she had two outdoor cats that like weren't hers. They were strays, but they came to her house all the time. So she thought that she could get her. She could get her. And he knew that. And he found out where she lived. And while she was away on vacation,
Starting point is 00:35:33 he killed the outdoor cats, graffitied her house, and painted all of the windows yellow, spray painted all of the windows yellow. What the fuck, right? Like what the fuck? So law enforcement was very, very well aware of him. Like it was just very well aware of him.
Starting point is 00:35:52 And at that point, what do you expect someone to do? To spray paint somebody's house yellow, and I think he spray painted like slag on the side of her house. What the fuck? It's fucked dude, and he would consistently find her. And it's like, what do you expect her to do at this point? Because she can't go anywhere.
Starting point is 00:36:09 Like, this has been 10 years. At some point, she's gonna have to defend herself and she's gonna have to make this stop. Yeah, exactly. And it's like, what do you think is gonna happen? Right. Nothing is gonna end up good. Like, this is not going to have a good ending
Starting point is 00:36:21 if somebody doesn't fucking help her. And it doesn't, unfortunately. Luckily, Kathy was able to get away from him eventually. And Zeta was able to get away from him. But these were not the only women that he tried to intimidate. There were a lot of other women who had similar run-ins with him that they just happened to get away from him before anything got too serious. There was actually a sex worker who literally, like, considered him like a brother. He would let her come shower at his house and he would make her food.
Starting point is 00:36:48 And she was like, he was a really nice guy. And I literally stayed at his house on multiple occasions. And I never had any inkling that he was like this. Fuck. So it was like a very, it was like a choice for certain women. It absolutely was. And there were multiple women that he contacted through my space that felt super uncomfortable with the things he would say to them.
Starting point is 00:37:07 He loved my space, by the way. One woman said that he knew her location and was able to tell her where she was at a certain time that he should not have known. And she ignored that message because she was like, I'm not gonna feed into this. Like that's terrifying, but like what am I gonna say? So he sent her another message that was like really irritated and was like, I know where you are, like fucking
Starting point is 00:37:29 answer me. Like what? Crazy. So yeah, and like I said, he was a big my space guy and he used the name Ven Paraya for his profile, which later on becomes like his alter ego. Now then I guess was short for Stephen and then Pariah obviously, somebody like Pariah of society. So that was like what he went by, like after a little while. Now around 2007 the police were like, hey maybe we should like check in on that guy
Starting point is 00:37:59 who told everyone that he wanted to become a serial killer and then stalked his ex to the point where she had to get multiple protective orders. Maybe we should see what he's up to. Yeah, let's see if everything's okay over there. Yeah, like let's check that out. Maybe he's chilled out and everything's fine. Yeah, they were also catching wind
Starting point is 00:38:13 that he was reading books about dismemberment out in the open as well as taking his gigantic pet lizards on walks around the halls of his apartment on a dog leash. Yeah. So like shit's really escalating here. He had pet lizards. This is a lot that he would take on walks around his apartment in a dog leash. If I ever saw a man walking around my apartment with a three foot lizard on a dog leash, I don't
Starting point is 00:38:39 know who I would call, but I would call someone. Oh my god. Like, yeah, I don't, I don't even think they could handle it. I don't think so. That's a case for lizard busters. It's like what? He would also take them into clubs. Like he would, he like to go to like clubs that night and stuff.
Starting point is 00:38:53 And he would bring his lizards. He would bring his lizards in like a backpack. Oh, that would probably stress them out so much. Of course that makes me so sad. Well, lizards like especially, like they have like very specific like temperature conditions that they need to be in and he would also feed them live mice like um he also had snakes and he would feed the snakes live mice which we think is the same thing if you have. Oh yeah absolutely. Like that's why I don't want to have a
Starting point is 00:39:18 snake or a lizard. But this next part is not a thing. A man once saw him eat a baby mice himself, a live baby mice, he ate it. A live baby mice. Mouse. I'm stressed. I'm stressed. So that was just hard. Past tense is not a thing right now. A baby mouse. Why did he do that? That was alive for scare factor. That was a like it alive. Like a live baby mouse. He just ate it. He ate a baby mouse. That was once living. I don't have anything to say about that. That just feels very Aussie Osborne. It does. So yeah, the police were getting
Starting point is 00:39:53 getting wind of this. So they were like, oh, they're just getting wind of this. Yeah, you know, so they decided to call the housing association that was in charge of Stephen's building. And they were like, hey, can you like keep tabs tabs on him that do that walks those giant lizards? Yeah, exactly. And he's books about dismemberment and eats mice in the hallway. Can you just like, can you just watch him a little bit? Can you watch him, would you mind?
Starting point is 00:40:13 So they actually, the building was like, Kellyanne, you know what? Let's say a fucking baller CCTV, like fucking security footage maker. I'm so glad that the building is doing more than the police. That's good. So they were like, yeah, like we'll even get like a better system for it. So they did. Hell yeah, building. This was also around the time in 2009 when he decided to go back to school and get a master's degree. So you know, bettering himself. Yeah, I mean,
Starting point is 00:40:37 he had a thirst for knowledge. Yeah, he went to Bradford University and he decided that he really needed to study the difference between homicides that happened in the 19th century versus today. That's what he was working on in school. Was that a class? I don't understand. Because I'm going to be real. I would have taken that class, but like, I was going to say, but I don't do any of the
Starting point is 00:41:00 things he does. But that's a choice. Yeah, so he was just going to class, learning about homicides. I was hoping he was going back to maybe a philosophy major, and he was going to chill himself out and have some deep thoughts. No, that was for lizard walking.
Starting point is 00:41:16 That's when he had his deep thoughts. Yeah, he did. Yeah. So they had no idea what they were going to find on that footage eventually, but yeah, they found a lot. They sure did. So let's get into that.
Starting point is 00:41:30 Let's get into that. Unfortunately, Susan Rushworth was the first woman to turn up missing when Steven began strolling the streets just hunting for women to take back to his apartment. Remember, I said he lived really close to the red light district, so he was on the hunt for sex workers especially. Susan herself was born on New Year's Eve 1965, a holiday baby just like Steven. Oh wow. And she too had dropped out of school at 16. So they had a couple things in common. A year later she was actually involved in an accident that left her with a brain hemorrhage.
Starting point is 00:42:00 So she was 17. And after that, she ended up developing epilepsy. Oh, jeez. She really had a tough go at things. She was trying to push through the hard times. Soon enough, she met a man who she married and had two kids with. Unfortunately, though, the marriage only lasted 10 years, and they decided to call it quits. And at that point, Susan was struggling with not only epilepsy, but going through a divorce. She's a young woman with two kids. She became depressed, and eventually, unfortunately, she turned to using drugs to cope.
Starting point is 00:42:30 Okay. So four years after her divorce, she actually met another man and had one more child, but things didn't work out with him either. And she was still struggling with her mental health and drug addiction. So she turned to sex work and the height of her addiction. And she worked as a sex worker for almost 10 years
Starting point is 00:42:45 And this is actually just so sad at one point she actually ran into her oldest daughter Who was also doing sex work at the time? Oh, they kind of like teamed up so that she could take care of her daughter on the streets. Oh, that's really sad It's so sad, but she wanted to make sure that she was safe and protected And I think her daughter got out of it and is like living a great life now. But the life that Susan was living was really taking a toll on her physical and mental health.
Starting point is 00:43:12 So she decided she wanted to stop using drugs and stop sex work and everything altogether. Like she was ready to start fresh. And around the time she disappeared, she had actually been off of drugs for six weeks. She was living with her parents and she was helping her mom take care of her dad who was suffering from dementia. Oh my God. So she had really made it a point to like turn things around when it seemed like she was on like the right path. A great path. So the last time anybody saw Susan alive, it was June 22nd,
Starting point is 00:43:40 2009. She left home in the morning, she was going to be taking a bus into Bradford to get her methadone prescription to make sure she could stay off off everything that she was on. Yeah. She made some stops along the way, she met some friends for a bit, she made plans with another friend for later in the day, she was supposed to meet this friend, but she never ended up meeting that friend and her prescription was actually never picked up and she was never seen alive again. Ooh, so when she didn't turn up that night, her mom was really worried.
Starting point is 00:44:09 She was like, I know that Susan was trying to change things and like, she was really doing a good job. Like I think, oh, that's so tragic. I think something's happened really bad here. So she called the police and she reported Susan missing, but it would be a lot of time before Susan's family would find out what actually happened to her. It's believed that somehow that day she met
Starting point is 00:44:30 Stephen Griffiths and was coerced and going back to his place. Like I said, she wasn't believed to be doing sex work at the time of her death, so it's unclear why she went back to his place. Like how he was able to do that? Yeah, but authorities did see that the last outgoing call on Susan's cell phone was to a friend that was also her drug dealer. So they did assume that maybe like she's whipped. She was having a slip. And they thought maybe she had relapsed that day and spent a lot of time just like they spent a lot of time looking for Susan in the wrong places, unfortunately.
Starting point is 00:45:03 Yeah. And maybe she was looking for more money. Exactly. Because she had gotten herself like, you know, she had done something that day, right? Right, it more. Yep. And this is a quick way to make money. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:45:14 And it's so unfortunate. It is. And this is just so tragic and sad. Her body has still never been recovered. Oh. And Stephen Griffith, Waltz, or Stephen Griffiths, won't say where it is. Of course not.
Starting point is 00:45:27 So they do know that Stephen was responsible for her murder though, because blood was later found inside the bathroom. That was a match for her blood. And when he later confessed to the other murders that we'll talk about, he told authorities that he attacked Susan with a hammer in his bedroom,
Starting point is 00:45:43 and then disposed of her body. And he just refuses to say where? He won't say where she is. What a piece of shit. Susan was only 43 years old. Like I said, she was just getting her life back together and she had just started getting to know her grandchildren. Wow.
Starting point is 00:45:59 So this guy is a piece of fucking shit for doing this to a woman like for doing this to anybody. But a woman like this, it's like so sad. Yeah, and it's also, you can see how weak these kind of assholes are, truly, like deep within their soul, because they hang on to that last fucking power, grab. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:18 I'm not gonna tell you where she is, and it's like, because I need that. Like, fuck you, you need that to keep going or else you know that you'll just fall apart. Because you're just a fucking liar to you. You're made of bullshit. So if you give up this one last piece of fucking fake power you feel like you have, then you're gonna crumble.
Starting point is 00:46:35 He is. So just makes them look even weaker as you speak. And he's a fucking liar. And he's a asshole. And it's just so annoying. So Steven would go back out on the streets of Bradford just 10 months later looking for his next victim. And his next victim would be Shelley Armitage. She was 31 years old. She was born September 22nd in 1978.
Starting point is 00:46:57 She was beautiful. She was smart. She was getting all-a's in all her classes. And she had a dream of becoming a model someday. She fell in with a rough crowd at school. She was getting all A's in all her classes, and she had a dream of becoming a model someday. She fell in with a rough crowd at school. She started dating the wrong guy when she was 16. She dropped out of school, and she started using party drugs, and then she eventually started doing stronger drugs and just really lost control of everything.
Starting point is 00:47:19 One of Shelley's friends remembered her potential to be a model, she really could have gone far with this. She was absolutely gorgeous, and she said there was a potential there that Shelley could have been a beautiful model. That's really sad. But she couldn't model anymore because she was getting sick from addiction and she needed a way to buy the drugs or else she was going to continue to get sicker and sicker. So she turned to sex work. I really wanted to make a point of getting as many details as I could about these women that lost their lives because she was getting sick and she was getting sick from addiction and she needed a way to buy the drugs or else she was going to continue to get sicker and sicker, so she turned to sex work. I really wanted to make a point of getting as many details as I could about these women that lost their lives, because so many of the sources that I was reading
Starting point is 00:47:51 just like barely mentioned anything personal about them. That happens a lot. And they just glossed over who they were and only called them sex workers and actually didn't even use that term. Yeah. And Shelley was a lot more than a sex worker. She was a mother, she was a girlfriend, and she was the dog lover. There were so many things about her and
Starting point is 00:48:09 these women that yeah, it doesn't define them. You need to make you need to humanize them a little more. Yeah, exactly. A lot more. Now the last time that Shelly was seen was the night of April 26, 2010. She was working in the red light district right near Steven's apartment. And when she didn't come home that night, her boyfriend reported her missing and the search was on. Now they knew that this had to be serious because she had recently gotten a new puppy that she was just like head over heels and love with. And they were like, she would not have left that puppy. No, like she loved him so much. So tons of people in the area were questioned.
Starting point is 00:48:43 Authorities were putting two and two together in realizing that Shelley and Susan's death were definitely connected. And later authorities would learn that Stephen had brought Shelley back to his apartment under the guise of paying her for her services. When she got into the apartment though, he shot her with a crossbow
Starting point is 00:49:00 and then used his cell phone to record the rest of the night's events. What? Yep. So he took public transportation to get rid of Shelley's remains, and at some point or another, he ended up leaving his cell phone behind. Oh no. It was stolen, and it was sold to a pawn shop.
Starting point is 00:49:17 While the owner of the shop was like clearing the phone, I guess, of the pictures and videos so he could resell it, they came across a terrifying video. This is a big trigger warning. The video showed a woman lying hog tied on a bed with the words spray painted on her back that said, my sex slave. What spray painted on her back? Then the video jumped to a bathroom where the woman was very clearly deceased at that point and was being actively dismembered.
Starting point is 00:49:47 And they could hear a band's voice narrating what was going on in the background, and the background, excuse me. And the voice said, I am Venpariya, I am the bloodbath artist. Here is a model that is assisting me. What the fuck? A model that is assisting me.
Starting point is 00:50:03 Nope, that is a woman that you killed. And wow, most likely tortured, did torture. That, wow. And that pawn shop owner just like got changed for the rest of his life. Literally got changed for the right. Like the far reaching repulsive situation, therapy would be needed.
Starting point is 00:50:23 I can't imagine living with that. You just go to work one day. Just clearing dad off a phone. No. And that's what you come across. Like we have said before, we've accidentally seen pictures that we didn't want to see during research and everything.
Starting point is 00:50:36 I've never seen a video. It looks with you. It does fuck with you. Like you wake up in the middle of the night and that image will pop into your head. Yes. I can't imagine seeing that. Leslie and Downey one will forever haunt me.
Starting point is 00:50:45 Oh, I hate that I saw that. I literally, I will wake up in the middle of the night sometimes and that I'll find it. Yeah, I will. That will pop into my head. Like, we both just shuttered and are closing our eyes trying to clear it from our head. So I can't even fathom seeing a video of that woman hog tied and spray painted with my sex slave.
Starting point is 00:51:05 And then it jumps to a video where you're probably not even ready for it. And not ready for anything when you ever ready for this. No, but jumping to a video of him actively dismembering her on a bathroom floor while narrating it. Literally. I mean, what the fuck? I near like, I'm the blood bath artist. And this is a model that's assisting me like, what the fuck? He you're like, I'm the bloodbath artist and this is a model that's assisting me. Like, what the fuck? He's so sick, gross, in every way.
Starting point is 00:51:31 It's so twisted. Wow. And unfortunately, I feel like I say unfortunately so much, but this is all unfortunate. It's all fitting. That video wasn't seen in time to save Stephen's last victim's life. Suzanne Blameyers, I believe is how you say it. She was actually a friend of Shelly's. She was 36 years old when she was last seen.
Starting point is 00:51:53 She was born on February 26th, 1974. She was the oldest of three children. And her family was a super, super close family. They were pretty well off. Suzanne's mom was able to stay home with the kids while her father worked. And when he wasn't working, they would go on nice vacations.
Starting point is 00:52:11 They actually went on an African safari. Damn. And I read one article where like there was a classmate of Suzanne's and she was like, yeah, I was always wicking jealous of her family. Like we're awesome. Growing up Suzanne had dreamed of being a nurse and she actually started going to school to become a nurse, but
Starting point is 00:52:26 she got to involved in the party scene during her time off. She got involved with a guy who was into drugs. He got her into drugs. Slowly but surely she fell out of her routine of going to school and studying and she would go out with her boyfriend. She would go to raves and parties and again, she would quickly become addicted to the drugs that she had just started experimenting with. Like it was just supposed to be, it never starts off with a full blown addiction, obviously. Of course. But this never, how someone goes into it.
Starting point is 00:52:53 No, but this led to a heroin addiction. And when Susan's marriage broke up, she moved in with a known drug dealer in the area. This guy, I think his name is Ifley Hussain, I think is how you say it. He got Suzanne addicted to crack cocaine and basically forced her out onto the streets as a sex worker so that she could pay for the drugs and he wouldn't have to. Wow. And he would beat her mercilessly if she came home with less than $200. Wow, this is tragic and so much sad. I just can't imagine this life. I can't imagine.
Starting point is 00:53:29 It's heartbreaking. Yeah, I truly can't imagine. Now, Steven Griffith, excuse me, Matsuzan, she went by Amber while she was working. So he met Amber. He took her back to his apartment like he did with the previous woman, but this time he did something different. He kept her alive for two days.
Starting point is 00:53:48 Now, at one point, she somehow was able to escape and she ran out of the flat. And as she ran out of the apartment, Steven shot her with a crossbow in the hallway, in the middle of the hallway. And now, obviously, quickly realized that he was caught on camera because remember that updated CCTV system? Yeah, when the building did more than the police. Yeah. He didn't care though. The video footage showed Steven shoot Susan one more time, this time in the head with a crossbow again. He then dragged her body into his apartment. 20 minutes later, he emerged from the apartment. He was caught on camera leaving his apartment, holding a crossbow, and he walked right up to the camera and gave it the middle finger.
Starting point is 00:54:31 And you showed me this photo. And we'll post the photo. It is haunting, so haunting, haunting. And that's not it, because I was in the middle of researching this case when I showed that picture to Elena. This is another thing that happened that I hadn't even found out about yet. Oh my God. 10 minutes later, he was caught on tape again, and this time he was holding a drink, and he
Starting point is 00:54:52 made a cheers motion at the camera. Like, cheers. Cheers guys. Just, you just caught me on camera. Well, I'm murdering a woman with a crossbow. Cheers. What's up? He doesn't give a shit.
Starting point is 00:55:03 No. He, this is everything he's ever wanted. Oh yeah. He wants to be a serial killer. He wants to, he thinks this is like his bad ass look of like looking at me shooting a woman like ironing away with a crossbow. So fucked. Wow.
Starting point is 00:55:18 Now the poor man that found this footage, just working for like a management company going through some footage. I think is, I keep saying I think like I didn going through some footage. I think is, I keep saying I think like I didn't write it down. I think his name was Peter Ghee. I think that's how you pronounce it is what I was going to say. Now he was going over all the cameras on Monday, May 24, 2010. He immediately called police when he saw this and they were able to review the footage as well. It was as clear as day that that was Stephen Griffiths, and it was clear as day that he was at least responsible
Starting point is 00:55:48 for this missing woman's death, but they had a pretty good feeling that they could now link him to the other two women as well. Yeah. So 60 police officers surrounded the building that afternoon, and they were able to have four century into his apartment. And as they broke down the door, he literally just called for one of the rooms.
Starting point is 00:56:05 I'm in here. I can't see. I literally can. Thanks for coming. I mean, here. Yeah, good, good of you to show up. Why? Right here.
Starting point is 00:56:16 The fuck? It was like he had waited for this moment his entire life because he had. He had? I was gonna say. Now, when they arrested him and read him his rights, his response was, I am Osama bin Laden.
Starting point is 00:56:25 You're not though. That's not the truth. That's not true. Thank you, though. Now later, he was being interviewed by police and he told them that he had not only killed six women total. They were like, he was like, I've killed more and they were like, how many?
Starting point is 00:56:37 And he held up his hands and did six. But he also said six total, I don't know. Oh, okay. Actually, that's a good question, but I think that he meant six total. But he also told them that he ate parts of these three women that he was being questioned about. He said he didn't have much time for the human race. Okay. Now, while he was being held, they were able to search the river air because a black bag
Starting point is 00:57:02 had floated to the surface that had been reported. The bag contained the head of Susan Blameyres with a crossbow still lodged into her head, lodged into her skull. That must have been the most macabre thing to see can't even imagine. A head and a bag with a crossbow. Like this case is obviously all the cases
Starting point is 00:57:24 that we cover are so dark, but this is one wide level. Has such a level of just like, what the fuck? Wow. Mm-hmm. Now, they were able to find her some of her other remains and they were chopped into what they said was nearly 80 pieces.
Starting point is 00:57:39 What? Now, she actually had to be buried in like a smaller coffin, like a baby-sized coffin because they just didn't have all of her remains. They never found everything. They also found other bags in that river, containing weapons like hacksaws and razors
Starting point is 00:57:54 and they were like, oh, like these are probably his. Wonder what these are for. So they let them, they like sent them to be forensically tested after letting them dry out. And when they were tested, a small piece of spine was found and determined to belong to Shelley. Holy shit. Yeah, so they were able to at least...
Starting point is 00:58:11 I can't believe they were able to find that. Seriously, like, what? It's so crazy. Science. Science. Now, Steven told the investigators almost everything they wanted to know, besides where they could find Susan Rushworth's body.
Starting point is 00:58:23 He told them, quote, the murders, they were horrific butchered dismemberments, eating parts of all three of them. In the first case with Susan Rushworth, in the aftermath, I got the cooker, was taken apart and gotten rid of. So it was six months without a cooker before someone moving out of the flats gave me the present one, which you will find traces of Shelley Amitage in. But the third one, I actually just went for it, tried eating bits of her raw. So now he's saying that he's eaten these women. Now, an insane amount of evidence was taken from Steven's apartment, which was how they linked him to Susan's death in the first place,
Starting point is 00:59:00 but there was no evidence to prove that he had actually eaten them. So he might just be saying this. They think for shock value. They think he was saying it for shock value and they think the same thing with the number of victims. Like I said, he hinted at six. But the investigators were like, they think it was just the three women that we do know of.
Starting point is 00:59:15 Yeah, it sounds like he's just a big, he likes the shock. Yeah, I mean, obviously he flipped off the camera and shitting. Yeah, it's all cheers to it. Theata. It's Theata. And they think that he gained, he tried to do this to gain more notoriety because again, he wanted to become a prolific serial killer. That makes sense. A professor of criminology, though, named David Wilson once said, quote, the key to understanding
Starting point is 00:59:36 Griffiths is to realize that he was fixated by the idea of fame. He was like a nightmarish version of a wannabe X factor contestant. Wow. I was like, wow. That's a great way to describe that. It's honestly like perfect. It really is. So Stephen Griffiths did what BTK did,
Starting point is 00:59:52 and he dubbed himself the crossbow canable. Oh, get out of here. And he did this the first time he appeared in court. He was asked to state his full name for the court, and that was his answer. I am the crossbow cannibal. No, no one was impressed. You're Steven.
Starting point is 01:00:06 You're Steven fuckface McGee. Yeah, you're just Steven, you're an ass hat. Now on December 21st, 2010, he did plead guilty to all three murders and he received a life sentence. The judge on the case told the court the circumstances of these murders are so wicked and monstrous. They leave me in no doubt that the defendant should be kept in prison the rest of his life. Jesus.
Starting point is 01:00:28 So Steven has gone on hunger strikes while he's incarcerated, he attempted to end his life, I think like six different times at this point, but he's still kicking and having an absolutely terrible time in prison. Well, that's good. And actually, Kathy said she was like, that's the worst place he could be because he's like very anti-social and like, he's forced to be around other people So and he's not getting to like be powerful in there. Oh, and he definitely hates it Now one of Stephen's last my space updates quoted Tom Thomas Harris's novel the red dragon
Starting point is 01:00:58 He wrote he is going to become something that other people find astounding and awe inspiring and then went on to say What will this pseudo-human-do one wonders? Poor Stephen, pretended to be me, but he was only the wrapping. He knew towards the end that I supplied the inner core of iron, hatred bound tightly in flesh. At very long last, the time has come to act out. That was posted the night before Susan, excuse me, that was posted the night before Suzanne Blaymire's was murdered. That's fucked up. And also don't fuck up Red Dragon. Yeah, like don't do that.
Starting point is 01:01:32 Don't do that. But how haunting is that that the night before he murdered someone? He wrote that. At very long last the time has come to act out. That's not acting out. No. Like fuck you. You're a murdering piece of shit.
Starting point is 01:01:46 Fuck you. But I don't want to end this with him because that's what he would want. Of course. I want to remember the women who lost their lives, and I like to finish this by just sharing what their families had to say about them. So, Suzanne Blaymeier's mother wrote on a wreath that was carried on top of her herse. You will always be my shining star. Oh.
Starting point is 01:02:04 Which made me want to cry. Yeah. Susan Rushworth's family has begged Stephen Griffiths to tell them where her body is, but he refuses. Of course. Her mother said, people talk about the death penalty for Griffiths, but I don't believe in it because Griffiths still has secrets. He knows where my Susan is. And if he was dead, then there would be no chance of him giving up that information. Yeah, it's true. It is. And Shelley's family read a poem at her funeral by Joanna Fute's, I believe. It's called a better place and it read, she's in a better place right now than she's ever been before. All the pain is gone and now she's at rest. Nothing troubles her anymore. They also said that she was loving and kind even when her life changed and she cared and helped for everyone, especially the girls on the streets.
Starting point is 01:02:49 And you know what, here he was totally thinking that he was killing women who would have friends, wouldn't have family, wouldn't have anyone. Me, my two of his victims were friends. Exactly. And did have all of these women have families. And these are the children. These are how stupid these dudes are. Yeah. But they just assume that you're a sex worker.
Starting point is 01:03:09 You must not have any connection to the outside world at all. It doesn't matter. And it's like, no fucker. They have friends, family, people who love them. They have connections to the outside world, like fuck off. Well, and actually, I wanted you to say what you had said to me the other day because we were talking about this case and I was saying how frustrating it was that because these women were sex workers,
Starting point is 01:03:27 they were labeled prostitutes and many of the things that I ran. And we were saying, because people will be like, well, it's a high-risk lifestyle. Like, what do you say? And it's like, okay, yeah, sure, it is. So is being a race car driver. Yeah, you make that choice.
Starting point is 01:03:42 Like you said. And it's like, so when they die in a car crash, should we just be like, well, it's a hard risk lifestyle? I don't know what to tell you while he was a race car driver. So no, everybody gets upset and mourns the person because they're a fucking human being. And then we write articles, like highlighting what a great person they were.
Starting point is 01:03:58 Exactly. Hi, everyone is a person. Exactly. Like we even say, like feel bad for the child that became a murderer. Yeah, just, like feel bad for the child that became a murderer. Yeah, just don't feel bad for the adult. But it's like, I hate that like high-risk thing because it's like, there's a lot of high-risk jobs.
Starting point is 01:04:13 And when someone dies doing it, you don't just go, well, it was a high-risk job. Well, it was a high-risk job. It doesn't matter because they put themselves at risk. And then you don't go on to just like, still shitty. Not shed any light into who they were as a human because they chose a high-risk job. That's not all they were. It just frustrates me. Makes me so fucking angry.
Starting point is 01:04:28 But that is the case of the Bradford murders. Stephen Griffiths is a fucking asshole. He's a liar and he's disgusted. That is the murderer, Stephen. Yeah. Just Stephen. That's Stephen over there. Dumb ass.
Starting point is 01:04:43 Stephen. Stephen over there in the fucking garden. Yeah, and there's I I happened to look up like some of the photos of the like CCTV footage and there's a couple of like that There's one of that they caught of her litter like that they published of her literally like running down the hallway looking back at him And he is snarling. Mm-hmm. Like harrowing. Like a wild fucking animal snarling. I'm not gonna post that one. No. You'll look for that yourself.
Starting point is 01:05:08 You wanna see that yourself, you go look for it, but I'll definitely post the memory flip soft in camera. Just seeing how like, just wild animal is that? Like, animal is that. He was in that moment. That poor, poor woman. I can't imagine. Cause she's looking behind her shoulder,
Starting point is 01:05:22 seeing a fucking, something worse than a wild, terrible animal. Y shoulder seeing a fucking, something worse than a wild terrible animal. Yielding a fucking crossbow. How you get away from snarling at her. Yielding a crossbow. That's, that's stuff you can't make up. It really is. And can you imagine being Kathy or Zeta? No. Like, oh, I got away from that man or the woman who just like stayed in his flat and would shower there and he was like He would cook for her and was nice to her. No. She was probably like why was he nice to me? Like I literally can't fathom that have happened to me. They were so many there was multiple women who were like that could have been me
Starting point is 01:05:55 Yeah, that's outrageous So sad and it's so sad for these three women's families. That's it's so crazy to me It's nuts. Wow, But yes, that is Stephen. Wow. Thank you for that. You're welcome. I've never heard of that one. I hadn't either. I think I had seen that photo before like on my like, I think it had popped through somewhere. Yeah, but I've never knew about this case as a whole. That's for sure. Wild. So yeah. Damn. After that, we definitely hope you keep listening we hope you keep it weird But not so whether you walk around with your lizards on a leash on the hallway and then you go on to murder people with the crossbow because
Starting point is 01:06:31 It's really just not okay, and if you're are gonna do that like don't do that because I don't want you to think But yeah, I don't do any of that Hey, Prime Members! You can listen to Morvid, Early, and Add Free on Amazon Music. Download the Amazon Music app today, or you can listen Add Free with Wondery Plus and Apple Podcasts. Before you go, tell us about yourself by completing a short survey at Wondery.com slash survey. Before you go, tell us about yourself by completing a short survey at Wundery.com slash survey.

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